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| 00:16.02 | MentalPower | GeoDaMancer: the only way to cause a stack overflow is to have an infinite loop somewhere |
| 00:17.29 | GeoDaMancer | I messed up, and named two of my variables to the same, and called the second one in the first one, and triggered an infinite recursion. |
| 00:19.38 | Kirkburn | This. Is. Incredible. This girl's voice is absolutely amazing: http://www.mojoflix.com/Video/Amazing-11-Year-Old-Girl.html |
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| 00:26.34 | Neronix | Anyone got any experience with models? SetFacing doesn't seem to work for me... |
| 00:30.04 | zenzelezz | why would anyone want to listen to an 11-year-old? |
| 00:30.36 | Kirkburn | Christina Aguilera was quite similar to that girl |
| 00:31.36 | zenzelezz | 11-year-olds are obnoxious and annoying, and have nothing to say worth listening to :-o |
| 00:31.37 | Kirkburn | (and CA is an incredible singer, whether you like her songs or not) |
| 00:31.50 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, haha |
| 00:34.05 | zenzelezz | I must agree that Christina Aguilera is a good singer, even though it's been a long time since I've liked any of her songs |
| 00:35.20 | Mery | If I want to perform an action as long as the mouse is down on a button (with updating coordinates similar ts draging a slider) do I need to have a function for on mouse down + on mouse up + an OnUpdate or is there another way? |
| 00:35.43 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, her new album is very good - big band and jazz type stuff |
| 00:35.57 | Cide | Mery: that's correct |
| 00:36.00 | Kirkburn | Btw, recognise this? :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmMTopztVlY |
| 00:36.05 | Mery | thanks :) |
| 00:41.53 | Kirkburn | I wish I'd had LazyTown when I was young |
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| 00:46.50 | AnduinLothar | as long as she doesn't write her own stuff and they make her look older in the videos you could forget that she's 11 |
| 00:46.53 | MentalPower | Mery: http://wowi.pastey.net/722 |
| 00:47.06 | Kirov | I just got cable again for the first time in a year. One of the first things I saw on ... lazy town |
| 00:48.22 | Kirkburn | It's awesome |
| 00:50.25 | Mery | MentalPower: Thanks but I already went with: http://wowi.pastey.net/723 |
| 00:55.10 | MentalPower | meh, that works too |
| 00:57.45 | GeoDaMancer | Wheee. |
| 01:00.30 | Corr[home] | how the heck do you post a comment on curse? :/ |
| 01:01.37 | Hexarobi | type in the box and click the button? |
| 01:02.04 | Kirov | You have to be logged in |
| 01:02.12 | Corr[home] | ah, that explains it |
| 01:02.35 | GeoDaMancer | Ugh, my script is getting so confusing now. xD |
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| 01:08.08 | MentalPower | GeoDaMancer: welcome to the club |
| 01:11.36 | Miravlix | I got C stack overflows all over the place |
| 01:11.55 | Miravlix | You have no way of knowing why those is created |
| 01:12.14 | GeoDaMancer | Mirv: I found out why mine was. xD |
| 01:12.31 | GeoDaMancer | I acccidentally created a recursive function call that formed no break. |
| 01:15.27 | MentalPower | Miravlix: the only way that I know of to cause a stack overflow is to have an infinitely recursing function |
| 01:17.21 | GeoDaMancer | Or one that approaches infinitely. |
| 01:17.53 | GeoDaMancer | I've almost gotten it working, but... |
| 01:18.11 | Miravlix | This triggers a C stack overflow in 14 addons |
| 01:18.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | the ptrs are still down? gahh come on blizzard |
| 01:18.50 | MentalPower | Miravlix: try using IEF with the stack trace enabled. |
| 01:19.48 | Miravlix | Problem is it triggers at random, so... |
| 01:21.56 | Kirkburn | I love finding people I can classify as 'bonkers' on the wiki :P |
| 01:22.35 | GeoDaMancer | Bonkers? |
| 01:22.52 | Kirkburn | Mad, off their head, insane, off the rocker |
| 01:23.38 | Kirkburn | Just a guy called Quinn' Tonstern, he's been making crazy edits since January |
| 01:24.59 | Kirkburn | I remember when he didn't like something I did: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Kirkburn&diff=prev&oldid=214916#ClearFont |
| 01:25.36 | Kirkburn | Now he's calling me a liar for saying that warlocks aren't in fact healers |
| 01:25.56 | Kirkburn | (no, I don't think healthstones count) |
| 01:26.17 | MentalPower | they dont |
| 01:27.59 | Esamynn | any linux ppl in here? |
| 01:30.42 | Miravlix | Yes? |
| 01:32.07 | Esamynn | will a passwd file from one installation work as is in another? |
| 01:36.12 | Esamynn | nm, doesn't matter, i'll just find out |
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| 01:45.09 | Kirkburn | G'night all |
| 01:47.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | hohoho |
| 01:47.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like i needed to clear auctioneer and lootlink cache files a bit sooner |
| 01:48.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm down to 74 MB memory usage down from ~100 with the SV files for both intact |
| 01:53.45 | Corr[home] | but if you clear the data, what's the point? |
| 01:54.11 | Corr[home] | *if you want to clear the data, what's the point of using them at all? |
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| 01:59.12 | Cairenn | yeah, well, you never say hi in this channel any more, so screw you :p |
| 02:01.28 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
| 02:02.01 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 02:02.05 | Kaelten | oh :P |
| 02:02.31 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 02:02.42 | Kaelten | I took yesterday off :) |
| 02:02.45 | Kaelten | played video games |
| 02:02.52 | Cairenn | good :) |
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| 02:02.57 | Kaelten | well that and worked 11 hours |
| 02:03.06 | Kaelten | so it wasn't quite a day off, just a day off from irc/wow stuff |
| 02:03.26 | Cairenn | but I was referring to you crying in the other channel because no one ever says hi to you :p |
| 02:03.48 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:03.55 | Kaelten | well screw you too. |
| 02:04.00 | Cairenn | oh baby |
| 02:04.13 | Kaelten | sorry my gal would kill us |
| 02:04.35 | Kaelten | ;) |
| 02:04.36 | Cairenn | meh, she can come play too! ^_- |
| 02:08.21 | Shadowed | ... |
| 02:08.27 | Shadowed | did cair just use ^_!? |
| 02:08.33 | Shadowed | er ^_- |
| 02:10.09 | Cide | I'm more interested in the rest of her statement |
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| 02:10.59 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 02:11.19 | Kaelten | heh |
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| 02:11.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Corr[home]> *if you want to clear the data, what's the point of using them at all? |
| 02:11.27 | Kaelten | Routers always put up a hell of a fight when they try though |
| 02:11.36 | AnduinLothar | yes, yes they do |
| 02:11.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | well auctioneer's gets outdated after several months of samples |
| 02:11.54 | AnduinLothar | and whatever you do, never try to set up a router as an extender |
| 02:12.10 | Kaelten | ewe |
| 02:12.12 | Kaelten | scary |
| 02:12.17 | AnduinLothar | it IS possible, but only by flashing your firmware and mumbling voodoo |
| 02:12.27 | AnduinLothar | and I've never been able to do it |
| 02:12.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | and lootlink just gets huge |
| 02:12.54 | Kaelten | anduin maybe you have to wear a bra on your head and set up the holy sacrificial game of life |
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| 02:13.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend is running a networking setup that's modem/router combo -> router->all computers |
| 02:13.19 | GeoDaMancer | Too bad it doesn't have a pruner ability. |
| 02:13.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's having so many problems :x |
| 02:13.22 | AnduinLothar | what is substantially easier is setting you 2nd router as an access point with it's own wireless name/pass and connecting it to the first router with via the LAN ports |
| 02:13.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just told him to get a damn switch and be done with it |
| 02:13.31 | AnduinLothar | and dissabling DHCP on the 2nd one |
| 02:13.58 | Kirov | I have two routers, one wireless, one not |
| 02:14.20 | AnduinLothar | we now have 3 routers in the house |
| 02:14.26 | Kirov | we use the not one as the main router and the other one as a switch / access point |
| 02:15.02 | AnduinLothar | but my router apprently sux |
| 02:15.09 | AnduinLothar | It overheats regularly |
| 02:15.23 | AnduinLothar | SO I have a fan pointed directly at it and it's on its side |
| 02:15.53 | AnduinLothar | and it still occationally overheats because my roomie was smart and put his computer next to it |
| 02:16.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehehe |
| 02:16.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that reminds me |
| 02:16.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend's router was like a toaster |
| 02:16.35 | AnduinLothar | and we flashed the other router and it sucked so now we have to flahs it back |
| 02:16.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | so he cut its case open and rigged an 80mm fan in it |
| 02:17.19 | AnduinLothar | but we have a house with 7 computer majors... therenever a 'good' time to dissabel the internet to flash the router |
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| 02:17.58 | AnduinLothar | I go to sleep about the time my roomies wake up, so someone's alway on the internet |
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| 03:10.55 | jaxdahl | who here knows how to extract item levels from itemcache? |
| 03:12.27 | Kirov | ooo ooo! I don't! |
| 03:12.42 | Kirov | ckknight does, but he's not here |
| 03:16.35 | jaxdahl | warlock atiesh = 22630 |
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| 03:17.51 | Cide | you want item level? |
| 03:18.26 | jaxdahl | yes |
| 03:18.37 | Cide | 90 |
| 03:18.39 | jaxdahl | wondering if it has the same ilevel as priest atiesh |
| 03:18.53 | jaxdahl | and you know this how? |
| 03:19.04 | Cide | I'm the author of ctprofiles :) |
| 03:19.17 | Cide | it got uploaded to our site some 15 minutes ago |
| 03:19.59 | jaxdahl | priest = 22631 |
| 03:20.23 | Cide | same item level |
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| 03:30.42 | GeoDaMancer | I see a line of cars and they're all painted black... |
| 03:38.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | With flowers and my love both never to come back |
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| 03:49.01 | GeoDaMancer | Is that the next line? |
| 04:01.41 | Tem|sleep | night everyone |
| 04:02.06 | Cairenn | night Tem|sleep |
| 04:04.30 | GeoDaMancer | Nighters. |
| 04:10.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | <GeoDaMancer> Is that the next line? |
| 04:10.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
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| 04:21.05 | GeoDaMancer | I wasn't sure. |
| 04:21.34 | GeoDaMancer | I haven't heard the actual song in something like three or four years. |
| 04:21.34 | GeoDaMancer | I used to be able to sing it, and type it from memory. |
| 04:28.34 | GeoDaMancer | Proudmoore is full\n Position in Queue: 248\n Estimated time: Calculating. ~_~ |
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| 04:56.47 | Shadowed | Anyone remember the reduction in PPM for OH? |
| 04:56.58 | GeoDaMancer | PPM for OH? |
| 04:57.37 | Shadowed | proc per a minute in your offhand weapon when dualwielding |
| 04:57.39 | AnduinLothar | proc per minute for off hand |
| 04:58.09 | GeoDaMancer | Huh? |
| 04:58.13 | Shadowed | I know it's less then MH, but not sure by how much. Wiki doesnt say |
| 05:01.03 | GeoDaMancer | What does proc per minute mean? |
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| 05:01.18 | GeoDaMancer | ~_~ It sucks essentially being a noob. xD |
| 05:01.28 | Shadowed | Formula used when figuring out the proc percentage of an enchant |
| 05:01.52 | Shadowed | Crusader is 1 PPM, assuming you're using a weapon thats 2.6 speed then you'd do |
| 05:02.02 | Shadowed | weapon speed / PPM * 60 to get the proc % |
| 05:02.55 | GeoDaMancer | What does proc mean? |
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| 05:05.17 | Shadowed | Means something thats not always active and something specific has to happen, for example overpower requires the target to dodge before it becomes active, so you may say something like "waiting for overpower to proc" |
| 05:08.30 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhh, I get it. |
| 05:12.20 | kergoth | is there a documented list of exactly what effects are dependent upon weapon speed and which are not, somewhere? |
| 05:12.31 | Shadowed | kergoth: As in? |
| 05:12.39 | Shadowed | What abilities are normalized VS not? |
| 05:13.16 | kergoth | what do you mean by normalized, exactly? |
| 05:13.31 | Shadowed | Attack power normalization |
| 05:14.29 | kergoth | it was my understanding that there are effects whose proc rate is fixed over time, not upon # of hits / weapon speed |
| 05:14.39 | kergoth | maybe incorrect, but thats what i'd heard |
| 05:15.09 | Thrae | There are some procs that are, and there are some that aren't. |
| 05:15.19 | kergoth | which is why i was looking for a list :) |
| 05:15.41 | Shadowed | ah weapon enchants, no list on the wiki as far as i know |
| 05:16.11 | kergoth | seems like it would be useful information to gather |
| 05:24.04 | GeoDaMancer | Lua doesn't have an increment thing does it? |
| 05:24.20 | Shadowed | nope |
| 05:24.25 | Shadowed | have to do foo = foo + 1; |
| 05:24.41 | GeoDaMancer | Why in the hells not? I mean, seriously! |
| 05:24.45 | GeoDaMancer | Sorry, annoyed. xD |
| 05:28.58 | ckknight_ | GeoDaMancer, because it's not necessarily needed |
| 05:29.10 | ckknight_ | there are patches to include += as an argument for lua |
| 05:29.16 | GeoDaMancer | True, but it's so useful. |
| 05:29.17 | ckknight_ | and such |
| 05:29.20 | GeoDaMancer | And I'm so lazy. |
| 05:29.27 | ckknight_ | which I think would be a good thing |
| 05:29.40 | ckknight_ | I'm vehemently opposed to ++ or -- as operators |
| 05:30.11 | GeoDaMancer | So am I, actually. |
| 05:30.35 | GeoDaMancer | They confuse me. xD But I can see a use for them. |
| 05:31.48 | ckknight_ | there is no use if += is available |
| 05:31.57 | ckknight_ | since x += 1 is much clearer than x++ |
| 05:32.11 | GeoDaMancer | Yes, there isn't actually... |
| 05:32.13 | ckknight_ | from a design standpoint, at least |
| 05:33.03 | GeoDaMancer | Well, it simplifies some things. |
| 05:33.19 | ckknight | howso? |
| 05:33.21 | GeoDaMancer | Like, allowing you to do for loops in while loops without having to include an extra line of code. |
| 05:33.36 | ckknight | for loops in while loops? |
| 05:33.44 | ckknight | I don't know what you're getting at |
| 05:33.48 | ckknight | feel free to paste what you mean |
| 05:33.59 | GeoDaMancer | Er, while loops as for loops. xD |
| 05:34.23 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:34.25 | ckknight | oh god |
| 05:34.33 | GeoDaMancer | for x=1, x > y, x + 1 do ... end while x++ != y do ... end |
| 05:34.34 | ckknight | you mean x++ as an expression instead of as a statement? |
| 05:34.45 | ckknight | that is horrible from a design standpoint. |
| 05:34.49 | GeoDaMancer | True. |
| 05:34.59 | ckknight | since it makes things dreadfully unclear. |
| 05:35.08 | GeoDaMancer | I prefer += assignment for increments, though. |
| 05:35.18 | ckknight | and in your code, since x++ happens after the fact, you'd be comparing x != y, then incrementing x |
| 05:35.21 | GeoDaMancer | But, I still have to go over the ++ and -- crud. |
| 05:35.25 | ckknight | another icky thingy. |
| 05:35.30 | GeoDaMancer | Yep, I know. |
| 05:36.01 | GeoDaMancer | It's only bad when you're having to let someone use your coding, or you have to go back and you didn't comment very well. |
| 05:37.16 | GeoDaMancer | tinsert(table, valueToBeInserted) right? |
| 05:41.36 | GeoDaMancer | I need to remember to comment my stuff. -.- |
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| 05:43.15 | GeoDaMancer | Whee, welcome back, man. |
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| 06:11.21 | GeoDaMancer | Ugh. |
| 06:12.45 | GeoDaMancer | Crapples. -_- |
| 06:17.12 | Wobin | I do prefer += |
| 06:17.42 | Wobin | hm, isn't tinsert depreciated? or is table.insert depreciated? |
| 06:17.55 | Wobin | or is it just syntactic sugar? |
| 06:18.59 | Wobin | Sob |
| 06:19.39 | Wobin | I'm still looking at the amount of effort to convert MrPlow to Ace2 in regards to the localisation.. and it's causing me physical pain at the amount needed to be done =P |
| 06:19.51 | Wobin | So. Many. Strings. |
| 06:20.16 | GeoDaMancer | table.insert I believe is the depreciated one. |
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| 06:20.49 | Wobin | ah |
| 06:20.50 | Wobin | no. |
| 06:20.52 | Wobin | other way around |
| 06:20.57 | Wobin | tinsert is lua 4 |
| 06:21.00 | Wobin | table.insert is 5 |
| 06:21.17 | GeoDaMancer | Oh. |
| 06:21.22 | GeoDaMancer | Alright then. |
| 06:21.22 | AnduinLothar | um i thought tinsert was wow |
| 06:21.31 | AnduinLothar | and table.insert is lua |
| 06:21.55 | AnduinLothar | pretty sure wow uses the global |
| 06:22.02 | Wobin | http://lua-users.org/wiki/PitLibTablestuff |
| 06:22.07 | GeoDaMancer | Both work. |
| 06:22.12 | GeoDaMancer | I mean, I've used both. |
| 06:22.41 | Wobin | oh naturally |
| 06:23.26 | GeoDaMancer | ~_~ Ugh. |
| 06:42.49 | GeoDaMancer | AHHHHH! |
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| 07:05.05 | GeoDaMancer | Alright, if you're calling formulas recursively, and you return down the line, what happens? |
| 07:05.32 | GeoDaMancer | Er, functions recursively. |
| 07:09.48 | AnduinLothar | BOOM! |
| 07:10.05 | AnduinLothar | you have to have an escape clause in the recursive function to return |
| 07:11.03 | GeoDaMancer | Eh, I just return the recursive function call and it works. |
| 07:11.48 | GeoDaMancer | function works(value) if not value then return works(value) else return value end end ... With some actually meaningful stuff in there. xD |
| 07:15.58 | GeoDaMancer | Is there a way to get for k, v in pairs(tableList) do ... end to call in the fields of the tableList in the order they were declared? |
| 07:19.08 | Kirov | er |
| 07:19.34 | GeoDaMancer | Never mind, I'm working a way through it. ^^; |
| 07:20.11 | GeoDaMancer | ~_~ |
| 07:20.22 | purl | :/ |
| 07:21.59 | Kirov | lol |
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| 07:25.59 | GeoDaMancer | Whew! It's working now, thank the gods. |
| 07:26.44 | GeoDaMancer | Well, sort of. More like it isn't as broken. |
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| 07:37.25 | GeoDaMancer | My code right now looks like a moose's antlers.. |
| 07:37.56 | GeoDaMancer | It's dangerous programming in java then trying to do lua. |
| 07:39.43 | Shadowed | global cooldown is what, 1.5 seconds? |
| 07:40.25 | GeoDaMancer | 1 sec + latency. |
| 07:40.48 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 07:41.03 | GeoDaMancer | Well, it's supposed to be 1 second. |
| 07:41.10 | Shadowed | 1 sec + 200 MS = 1.2 global cooldown? |
| 07:41.17 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah. |
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| 07:50.26 | Miravlix | What are you working on GDM? |
| 07:51.20 | GeoDaMancer | A drag and drop gui for my script that emulates the action bar's cooldown and use information, and dynamically reorganizes the section of the action bar that it uses to conserve space. |
| 07:53.22 | Wobin | GDM: It's dangerous to code in Java. =) |
| 07:53.59 | Thumann_ | hi guys, i'm trying to figure out how to make a drop down menu.. bit it looks like people just use a frame for that? instead of a "button" |
| 07:54.02 | Shadowed | java's not *that* bad |
| 07:54.15 | Shadowed | it has it's "why the fuck did they do it this way" moments though |
| 07:54.39 | GeoDaMancer | Java is the language that my CS courses use. |
| 07:54.57 | Thumann_ | like here : http://wowi.pastey.net/724 |
| 07:55.29 | Wobin | Thumann_: Use DewDropLib |
| 07:56.08 | Thumann_ | Wobin: ahh.. that looks neat |
| 07:56.18 | Wobin | Dead easy to use =) |
| 07:56.26 | Shadowed | Librarys are evil! |
| 07:56.31 | Wobin | FEh |
| 07:56.49 | Wobin | Libraries are wonderous things |
| 07:57.05 | Wobin | Libraries == Thank god I don't have to do that all myself |
| 07:57.20 | Shadowed | naw |
| 07:57.27 | Shadowed | excuse to do it yourself |
| 07:59.10 | Wobin | Why reinvent the wheel? |
| 08:00.00 | Miravlix | Why wheel the reinvention? |
| 08:00.47 | gnorlish | your logic intrigues me |
| 08:01.00 | Shadowed | boredom? |
| 08:01.02 | Shadowed | fun? |
| 08:01.04 | Miravlix | Open Source Libraries is interesting because you can join the development and effect it |
| 08:01.11 | Wobin | indeed! |
| 08:01.32 | Wobin | Which is why I like using libraries |
| 08:01.38 | Miravlix | If someone makes a library but refuses to let others mess with it... |
| 08:01.41 | Amro | shadowed, i dunno how simple dewdroplib is, but some libraries are fairly complex |
| 08:01.51 | Miravlix | Then the library is useless |
| 08:01.51 | Wobin | I know that if I see something I don't like (or can be done better) I know I can go change it |
| 08:02.32 | Amro | personally i dislike using libraries (prefer to use my own code) but in some situations you can't help it |
| 08:02.52 | GeoDaMancer | If you use function functionName(...) How do you call the args? |
| 08:03.18 | Wobin | call the args? |
| 08:03.21 | Wobin | oh |
| 08:03.24 | Amro | lua has variable argument lists? |
| 08:03.27 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:03.33 | Amro | oh wait |
| 08:03.33 | GeoDaMancer | Oh! arg[1]? |
| 08:03.34 | Amro | lol |
| 08:03.35 | Wobin | never used it before though |
| 08:03.39 | wereHamster | arg is the table holding the arguments |
| 08:03.42 | Amro | that was a dumb question |
| 08:03.47 | GeoDaMancer | I can't look at the wiki right now. ~_~ |
| 08:04.09 | wereHamster | arg.n is the number of arguments, arg[1] .. arg[arg.n] hold the arguments |
| 08:04.23 | GeoDaMancer | Thanks. |
| 08:05.52 | Thumann_ | Wobin: do you know a place where i can find a "hello world" example using this library by any chance? :) |
| 08:06.12 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:06.19 | Wobin | it should be on the wiki... one sec |
| 08:06.27 | Thumann_ | the readme file was written for someone who knew what he was doing |
| 08:06.27 | Thumann_ | hehe |
| 08:06.48 | GeoDaMancer | Hell yes! |
| 08:06.50 | Wobin | http://www.wowace.com/index.php/Dewdrop-2.0 |
| 08:07.06 | Thumann_ | oh :) thanks |
| 08:07.18 | GeoDaMancer | Damn, almost. |
| 08:08.30 | GeoDaMancer | Ther5e's a problem with my insertion. |
| 08:08.54 | Thumann_ | so i place the example in a function.. and call the function in my xml file.. on a.. onlcick or something right? |
| 08:09.26 | Amro | GeoDaMancer: be more specific? |
| 08:09.38 | GeoDaMancer | Huh? |
| 08:09.43 | GeoDaMancer | Oh, no that wasn't a question. |
| 08:09.55 | Amro | oh, k |
| 08:09.56 | GeoDaMancer | I'm writing an actionbar insertion thing. ^^; |
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| 08:10.13 | Amro | what for? |
| 08:10.42 | GeoDaMancer | To insert spells into the actionbar at a specific point when it's dropped into my gui. |
| 08:11.46 | Amro | im not sure i follow |
| 08:12.28 | Amro | anyway i gotta run |
| 08:12.29 | Amro | later |
| 08:13.43 | GeoDaMancer | It's hard to explain without showing. |
| 08:15.11 | Thumann_ | Wobin: hmm.. :( what am i doing wrong? http://wowi.pastey.net/725 |
| 08:18.34 | Wobin | hum |
| 08:18.41 | Wobin | You're linking it to the minimap |
| 08:18.53 | Wobin | you need to replace the 'Minimap' with your frame name you're linking it to |
| 08:19.08 | Thumann | haha |
| 08:19.10 | Thumann | sorry :( |
| 08:19.49 | Wobin | Actually, you need to Register it first... lemme try and find an example |
| 08:19.53 | Thumann | do i need to link it to a new 'empty' frame.. or to the frame containing the xml (the button) |
| 08:21.21 | Wobin | to the frame containing the button |
| 08:21.55 | Thumann | ok |
| 08:22.06 | Wobin | okay |
| 08:22.24 | Wobin | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/GonffBar/Gonffbar.lua |
| 08:22.43 | Thumann | 404 ? |
| 08:22.57 | Wobin | woops |
| 08:23.02 | Wobin | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/GonffBar/GonffBar.lua |
| 08:23.26 | Wobin | That's actually not a simple example... |
| 08:23.34 | Wobin | but it's the quickest one I could think of =) |
| 08:23.52 | Wobin | in the CreateCB function, it registers the Dewdrop menu |
| 08:24.06 | Wobin | and calls the Settings function to populate it |
| 08:24.18 | Wobin | you could probably consolidate a lot of that |
| 08:25.32 | Thumann | that's alot of code just to make a dropdown menu |
| 08:25.33 | Thumann | :o |
| 08:27.07 | Wobin | well, it's not a particularly simple menu |
| 08:27.20 | Wobin | it has colour wheels, slider bars, etc |
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| 08:32.28 | Thumann | mm |
| 08:32.34 | Thumann | thanks :) i'll try it out |
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| 08:44.46 | Kemayo | ...I'm having entirely too much fun clearing newbie areas to level my unarmed skill. |
| 08:45.06 | GeoDaMancer | I did that with my gun. xD |
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| 08:48.02 | Thumann | i want a tabard where it says NO! I DO NOT WANT TO HELP YOU on.. hehe |
| 08:48.28 | Miravlix | I want one that says, Healing is for ppl with hps. |
| 08:48.32 | Thumann | hehe |
| 08:48.47 | Miravlix | I got harresed by a warrior that got totally owned by rogues |
| 08:48.53 | Miravlix | for not healing his sorry ass |
| 08:49.00 | Thumann | bah |
| 08:49.03 | Miravlix | wtf can I do when he dies in 1 second |
| 08:49.18 | Thumann | omg l2flashheal!!11two |
| 08:49.22 | Thumann | hehe |
| 08:49.50 | Miravlix | We where fighting a Shammy and a rogue and he expect me to spend 3 seconds casting a heal... |
| 08:50.03 | Miravlix | Think he missed the lession about earth shock and kick |
| 08:50.11 | Thumann | it's okay if he can manage to stay alive for 4 seconds |
| 08:50.13 | Thumann | without healing |
| 08:50.37 | Miravlix | Against a rogue as a warrior he better stay alive and win |
| 08:56.37 | Thumann | attempt to index global 'DewDropLib' (a nil Value) .. so.. what have i forgotten |
| 08:58.20 | Miravlix | Load the addon before your own? |
| 08:58.23 | Miravlix | (toc) |
| 09:00.23 | Thumann | ah! naturally |
| 09:06.51 | Thumann | hmm.. all the lines with self.xxx in them fail.. self is a nil value |
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| 09:39.00 | Legorol | Is Ace2 backwards compatible with Ace? |
| 09:39.14 | Legorol | i.e. if I replace Ace with Ace2, will AddOns that haven't been converted work? |
| 09:40.16 | GeoDaMancer | I'd have no clue. |
| 09:43.46 | kergoth | Legorol: they're completely independent entities. |
| 09:44.02 | Legorol | ok thanks |
| 09:44.03 | kergoth | no common code or api between them |
| 09:44.18 | kergoth | ace is an addon, ace2 is a group of libraries that get embedded into other addons |
| 09:44.28 | kergoth | so you wouldnt "replace Ace with Ace2" |
| 09:44.36 | kergoth | theres no need to have an ace2 addon at all |
| 09:47.52 | Kirov | heh |
| 09:47.58 | Kirov | an Ace2 version of Ace |
| 09:50.04 | ckknight | Kirov, basically, backporting Ace2 features in a backwards-compatible way to an Ace 1.3 interface wasn't worth the effort |
| 09:50.08 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 09:50.48 | ckknight | and there's not too much of a point, anyway |
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| 09:56.26 | kergoth | its a completely different design and methodology |
| 10:00.04 | ckknight | that too poses a hindrance |
| 10:00.27 | ckknight | especially with AceChatCmd vs. AceConsole-2.0 and AceDB vs. AceDB-2.0 and such |
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| 10:04.12 | [AO]Izaika | Hi guys, I want to customize the Guild panel to show extra information, does anyone know of an add-on that already does something like this that I could learn from? |
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| 10:41.12 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Oteko |
| 10:41.17 | jaxdahl | this person appears to be a vandal |
| 10:45.54 | Elkano | appears? he IS... |
| 10:52.42 | zenzelezz | bah... I seem unable to get past "Connected" |
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| 11:15.33 | Thumann | :/ any help on making a dropdown menu? i'm fiddling around with this dewdroplib, but i can't get it to work |
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| 11:50.27 | Elkano | Thumann, have a look at http://www.wowace.com/index.php/AceOptions_data_table since this can be used to feed the structure to dewdrop |
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| 11:51.33 | Thumann | do i need the ace library aswell? |
| 11:51.51 | Thumann | creating a dropdown menu has been the hardest part yet for me :S |
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| 12:01.55 | Elkano | you'll need AceLibrary for DewDrop-2.0, yes |
| 12:02.24 | Elkano | but they'll both be embedded in your addon directory when you're done |
| 12:05.55 | Elkano | you could have a look at other addons using DewDrop for dropdowns eg TinyTipOptions |
| 12:06.13 | Thumann | tinytipoptions.. check |
| 12:07.07 | Elkano | hmm... TinyTipOptions wasn't the best example I think... :/ |
| 12:07.56 | Elkano | for now I myself have been using DewDrop only together with FuBar so I only had to build the aceoptions data table |
| 12:10.55 | Elkano | for other hints check DewDrops API page: http://www.wowace.com/index.php/Dewdrop-2.0 |
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| 13:04.05 | [AO]Izaika | I'm interested in modifying the Guild menu to show extra information, does anyone know of an add-on that does something similar that I can read to learn how to do it? |
| 13:04.49 | [AO]Izaika | Or any tutorial that describes how to modify existing menu screens? |
| 13:09.25 | Mikk | it's not horribly advanced |
| 13:09.35 | Mikk | the guild menu is a UIDropDownMenu |
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| 13:10.17 | Mikk | adding more options is just a matter of hooking its setup function and adding more options |
| 13:10.31 | Mikk | (through regular UIDropDownMenu "add item" calls) |
| 13:28.16 | [AO]Izaika | Thanks Mikk, I'll check that out. |
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| 13:59.00 | Warla | lol i need to use more pots for pvp.... checkout my mule: |
| 13:59.00 | Warla | http://www.wowledgebase.com/?id=6 |
| 14:09.37 | Amro | i wish buff pots last in pvp |
| 14:10.43 | Warla | heh ya |
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| 14:41.37 | Mr_Rabies | i'm so glad i'm not an alchemist |
| 14:42.05 | Mr_Rabies | one 20 slot enchanting bag is about all i could hold in mats and still have room for gear |
| 14:42.20 | Mr_Rabies | i've got about 5 16 slot bags dedicated purely to gear i use |
| 14:42.26 | Mr_Rabies | and another 3 of gear i only use sometimes |
| 14:44.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | i got 2 16 slot enchating bahs but i keep them at AH :p |
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| 14:47.59 | Mr_Rabies | having to keep up with multiple gearsets sucks :[ |
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| 14:50.22 | Mr_Rabies | healing gear, tanking gear, dps gear, partial healing fire resist, partial dps/tanking fire resist, nature resist, spelldamage gear that i'm kinda working on |
| 14:50.36 | Mr_Rabies | and stuff i can't bring myself to throw out, like wildheart, sitting in my bank :x |
| 14:51.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | lol those gaer stuff sux |
| 14:51.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | i only use 1 gear that enoghu for me :p |
| 14:52.27 | Mr_Rabies | sadly that's not an option for me :[ |
| 14:52.48 | Mr_Rabies | you're a pretty terrible druid if you don't have multiple gearsets |
| 14:53.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'm guessing you're a pure dps class though :o |
| 14:54.17 | nevcairiel | for raiding you dont really need multiple gearsets tho, just focus on what the guild needs ( which is mostly resto anyway ) |
| 14:55.52 | Mr_Rabies | you still need it if you ever do anything but raiding |
| 14:56.02 | Mr_Rabies | and if araiding's all you ever do, you need to stop playing probably |
| 14:58.56 | Mikk | if raiding is all you do, you probably will stop playing |
| 14:59.01 | Mikk | booooooring |
| 14:59.08 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 14:59.18 | Mikk | more 5man ftw! |
| 14:59.20 | Mr_Rabies | it's better to get paid to do the same thing pretty much |
| 14:59.36 | Mr_Rabies | get bossed around and be half asleep and press buttons every now and then |
| 14:59.41 | Mr_Rabies | but get paid for it! |
| 14:59.44 | Mikk | haha |
| 14:59.54 | Mikk | yeah i hear you |
| 15:00.11 | Mr_Rabies | i do like raiding in moderation |
| 15:00.16 | Mikk | aye |
| 15:00.23 | Mr_Rabies | but excessive raiding makes rabies a sad bear |
| 15:00.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | are chat item links like bottuns ? |
| 15:00.48 | Mikk | no |
| 15:01.16 | Mikk | the chat frames just react on a |h...stuff|h..stuff..|h text |
| 15:01.24 | Mikk | and call a callback when it is clicked |
| 15:01.41 | |FF|Im2good4u | onhyperlickclicked i was afriad of that |
| 15:01.56 | |FF|Im2good4u | so there is no way to get the on screen position of a hyperlink :p |
| 15:01.57 | Mikk | is that bad? i find it handy :-P |
| 15:02.02 | Mikk | no |
| 15:02.29 | |FF|Im2good4u | i just hadd in idea to render small icon near the links :p |
| 15:02.38 | Mikk | ouch, no, not possible |
| 15:02.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | but i have no idea howe to place it |
| 15:02.45 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh i see |
| 15:02.50 | Mikk | unless you rewrite the whole implementation in lua yourself |
| 15:02.56 | Mikk | but that would likely be ... umm... less than efficient |
| 15:03.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe if u evaualte each addmessage :p and make each charecter be a specified witch |
| 15:03.56 | |FF|Im2good4u | i basicly already rewrote the entire links but that is just spoofing of the !htext!h :p |
| 15:04.23 | Mikk | nah you can track widths with FontString:GetText() |
| 15:04.28 | Mikk | you don't have to guess |
| 15:04.31 | Mikk | err |
| 15:04.36 | Mikk | FontString:GetTextWidth() |
| 15:04.44 | Mikk | or whatever the API is |
| 15:05.29 | |FF|Im2good4u | this is wut i got so far http://ui.worldofwar.net/images/ui/1152688367ItemLinkRecolor2.jpg |
| 15:06.29 | Mikk | ah, useful |
| 15:07.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2877 |
| 15:08.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | colors brackets to red if u cant use it and displys the level i just tohguh a litle icon would be nice :P |
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| 15:14.54 | Mikk | nah, i'd leave it at that |
| 15:15.04 | Mikk | would just get too messy with little graphics |
| 15:15.21 | Kirkburn | Morning Mikk |
| 15:15.23 | Mikk | morning kilk =) |
| 15:15.29 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 15:15.33 | Mikk | and, yes, Quinn is bonnkers |
| 15:15.47 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 15:16.08 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.15 | Mikk | "YOU'RE LYING!" |
| 15:16.18 | Mikk | o.O |
| 15:16.34 | Kirkburn | Did you see that note he once posted on my user page? |
| 15:16.43 | Mikk | no |
| 15:17.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | Mikk: you might be right about that :P |
| 15:17.39 | Kirkburn | Mikk: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Kirkburn&oldid=214916 |
| 15:18.36 | Mikk | Kirkburn: ehhhhh |
| 15:18.39 | Mikk | what the hell |
| 15:19.04 | Kirkburn | Can't remember why ... time to find out |
| 15:19.55 | Mikk | weird tho... i can't find his edit in your page history |
| 15:21.20 | Mikk | ehmm... ok, that old |
| 15:22.02 | Kirkburn | Here we are: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Blood_elf&diff=next&oldid=214825#Kaladorei_or_Suin.27_Dorei_.28I_cant_spell_them_right.29 |
| 15:22.18 | Kirkburn | Er, I think |
| 15:23.13 | Mikk | Guy is bonkers |
| 15:23.18 | Mikk | His edit history is ... interesting |
| 15:23.22 | Kirkburn | I totally can't work out what set him off |
| 15:24.11 | Kirkburn | It might have been this instead: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Draenei&diff=next&oldid=211674#Eredar_or_Draenai.3F |
| 15:24.24 | Kirkburn | Well anyway, ice cream time :) |
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| 15:41.44 | Kirkburn | I think Warcraft 4 is another of his RP projects that will crash and burn |
| 15:48.17 | Kirkburn | I'm far too cynical |
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| 16:27.16 | Kirkburn | C'mon now, who broke the wiki again? |
| 16:28.15 | cogwheel | smurfs |
| 16:28.17 | Kirkburn | Hey Cairenn |
| 16:28.20 | Cairenn | morning |
| 16:29.05 | Kirkburn | I think it's baulking at my pragmatic approach to deletion |
| 16:29.33 | Kirkburn | "You're looking at me funny. Bye bye" |
| 16:30.00 | Kirkburn | I assure you, the articles have eyes... |
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| 16:34.03 | Maldivia | hmm, sometimes I'd wish there were a "read by blue" mark on threads, so you could atleast see if they have noticed it or not |
| 16:35.08 | Kirkburn | It would be a bad idea, really it would be |
| 16:35.25 | Kirkburn | You can hope for it, but if it ever appeared, the consequences would be dire |
| 16:35.43 | Legorol | morning Cairenn |
| 16:35.49 | Cairenn | hi Legorol |
| 16:36.36 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: well, it would avoid people bumping their threads constantly |
| 16:36.54 | Kirkburn | It would have precisely the opposite effect, I think |
| 16:37.24 | Kirkburn | People would bump their threads until it got a 'read' mark, and then they'd complain if there was no response |
| 16:37.43 | Kirkburn | Not to mention the uproar if an apparently 'worthy' thread never got marked |
| 16:38.34 | Kirkburn | In addition, you would know when people were and weren't around |
| 16:38.40 | Maldivia | well, for threads like bug reports etc, it would be nice if there was a "noticed" mark, without the need to write a "we are aware of this and looking in to it" |
| 16:38.54 | Kirkburn | And you'd be able to see their work habits, which would be an intrusion into their lives |
| 16:39.37 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, that would be fair enough, but people want a reponse, not a just a mark |
| 16:39.52 | Kirkburn | They'd complain if they didn't get a 'proper' explanation |
| 16:40.25 | Maldivia | it just feels so frustrating sometimes, when you for instance write a bug report, but have no idea if anyone at Blizzard have even noticed it |
| 16:44.34 | Kirkburn | I can say it's very likely they will have |
| 16:45.04 | Kirkburn | They frequently mention that the dept in charge watches that forum all the time |
| 16:45.36 | Kirkburn | It only takes a few seconds for them to copy the info to a bug system anyway |
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| 16:47.29 | krka | gah, this is so frustrating |
| 16:47.38 | Maldivia | ? |
| 16:47.40 | krka | i fail to build / link lua properly |
| 16:48.57 | Kirkburn | Time for Act II of the Orc bonus campain :) |
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| 16:53.03 | Legorol | krka: even i managed it, on my first try |
| 16:53.05 | Legorol | and i'm a Linux n00b |
| 16:53.17 | krka | really? cool |
| 16:53.23 | krka | here's what i've done |
| 16:53.42 | krka | i added a function definition to lua.h and the function implementation to ldebug.c |
| 16:53.47 | krka | it compiles just fine |
| 16:53.47 | Industrial | hmm who made clearfont again? |
| 16:53.54 | krka | but when i try to link it to my program, it fails |
| 16:53.58 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.04 | Industrial | ah yes you |
| 16:54.05 | Industrial | hi |
| 16:54.06 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:54.13 | Kirkburn | Ciao |
| 16:54.22 | Industrial | ;\ |
| 16:54.34 | krka | help me lego! |
| 16:54.45 | krka | this is the last part of my grand project :) |
| 16:55.17 | krka | almost complete, just need one more function, and that function wasn't implemented in standard lua (but it was only 4 more lines to add it |
| 16:55.45 | Industrial | Kirkburn, http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9590/wowscrnshot091006185358gk8.jpg |
| 16:55.54 | Industrial | Kirkburn, _ doesnt show right |
| 16:56.19 | Kirkburn | I know |
| 16:56.24 | Industrial | oki |
| 16:56.27 | Kirkburn | Just use the original font :) |
| 16:56.55 | Industrial | how what who? I just installed it.. |
| 16:56.55 | Kirkburn | Silly open source fonts, they can't even get underscores right :P |
| 16:57.02 | jaxdahl | wiki down again? |
| 16:57.08 | Industrial | Im not using a custom font :p |
| 16:57.09 | Kirkburn | jaxdahl, v slow for me |
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| 16:57.16 | Kirkburn | Industrial, check the website |
| 16:57.30 | Kirkburn | You can get the 'proper' ClearFont font as a package from there |
| 16:57.37 | Industrial | k |
| 16:57.45 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 16:57.46 | jaxdahl | kirkburn, vandal: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Oteko |
| 16:58.35 | Kirkburn | jaxdahl, how so? |
| 16:58.38 | krka | i think the linker tries /usr/lib/liblua.a instead of my liblua.a |
| 16:58.41 | Shadowed | Is wiki slow or is it me? |
| 16:58.47 | jaxdahl | it's slow |
| 16:59.25 | Kirkburn | What's the guy been doing jaxdahl ? |
| 17:00.22 | Mery | how do I create a <ButtonText> (a font string attached to a button that changes the font based on NormalFont, DisabledFont, ...)? |
| 17:00.35 | Mery | in lua* |
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| 17:04.12 | Mery | nvm, forgot to set the font... |
| 17:04.22 | jaxdahl | Kirkburn, non-sensical changes to the strategy on vaelastraz |
| 17:04.37 | jaxdahl | and 'random' edit to the atiesh page about who got it first |
| 17:05.16 | jaxdahl | such as suggesting that the person with burning adrenaline go into the center of the raid to nuke heal |
| 17:05.42 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn, stop downloading porn using WoWwiki's connection |
| 17:06.33 | Kaso | haha i came here to complain about wiki too :< |
| 17:07.38 | Kirkburn | But, but ... |
| 17:08.23 | Shadowed | lazy admins! |
| 17:08.47 | Kirkburn | Yes, I should pedal faster |
| 17:09.05 | Kirkburn | But y'know, I'm lazy and what-not |
| 17:09.33 | Kirkburn | Actually my current evil plan (For when the wiki speeds up), is to remove a much of SilverSide's dead stuff as possible :P |
| 17:09.52 | Shadowed | i'll have to ban you for vandilism! |
| 17:10.45 | Kirkburn | I'll have to ban you for giggles for suggesting banning me :P |
| 17:11.33 | Shadowed | that'd be abusing the idea of the wiki |
| 17:11.54 | Cide | hey, he's an admin. |
| 17:12.08 | Cide | admins are there to ban you! |
| 17:12.27 | Shadowed | and trade favors for power |
| 17:13.02 | Cide | yup |
| 17:13.48 | Shadowed | who knows how much rage an ability costs if it's dodged, missed or parried! |
| 17:14.01 | Kirkburn | But abusing our power is what we do! |
| 17:14.18 | Cide | exactly! |
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| 17:15.06 | zenzelezz | wish I knew... my rage fluctuates too fast to notice |
| 17:15.07 | Cairenn | bah, you can't call yourself a true admin until you've abused your power at least once to ban someone for no good reason :p |
| 17:15.58 | Shadowed | yeah zenzelezz I heard it was 1/3 of the rage cost, but i can't find anything to verify it :/ |
| 17:16.03 | Shadowed | hard for me to test being DW |
| 17:16.25 | Cairenn | no, the only people I've ever banned in here have been for good reason |
| 17:16.32 | Cairenn | I was talking about message boards :p |
| 17:16.34 | Industrial | I have an addon that only does this: http://pastey.net/728 for me. Somehoe the CastingBarFrame wont move or moves back to the default position. |
| 17:17.00 | Kirkburn | And I meant I was going to ban a random person on the wiki from the list here :P |
| 17:17.07 | Cairenn | ahhhh |
| 17:17.17 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 17:17.24 | Industrial | Anyone had this? |
| 17:17.45 | Shadowed | blah |
| 17:17.56 | Shadowed | going to have to figure it out the old fashion way |
| 17:19.07 | Tem | wow.. I'm all sore from yesterday |
| 17:19.24 | Thrae | Innuendo alert! |
| 17:20.04 | Tem | ugh, you people |
| 17:20.05 | Kirkburn | You were involved? \o/ |
| 17:20.09 | Shadowed | prison is bad, mmkay |
| 17:20.22 | Tem | yesterday was game day, yo |
| 17:20.42 | Thrae | *booming voice from inside armour* You may now commence the mockery. |
| 17:22.25 | krka | ... |
| 17:22.31 | krka | don't you just love it when you're totally retarded? |
| 17:22.36 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:22.39 | krka | i spent hours debugging this: |
| 17:23.17 | krka | lua_pushinteger(master, gethookcountremaining(slave)); |
| 17:23.17 | Tem | oh, the thing you asked about in #lua? |
| 17:23.20 | Kirkburn | jaxdahl, managed to check the edits, banning him now. |
| 17:23.26 | krka | when i had defined lua_gethookcountremaining |
| 17:23.35 | jaxdahl | thanks Kirkburn |
| 17:23.35 | Tem | haha |
| 17:23.37 | Kirkburn | Hmm, page not loaded. I may or may not have banned him :/ |
| 17:23.49 | krka | the compiler should figure out which function i meant, even if i misspelled it |
| 17:24.23 | Cide | yeah, wtb smart programs |
| 17:26.24 | Thrae | So this elderly couple comes into a computer shop and asks if they're computer's done yet. The tech says explains the CD-ROM door handle and plastic slot cover were damaged with age and need to be removed. Tech: "Well it seems your handle and slot look like they haven't been used in decades, they'll need to be replaced." Elderly Man: "Don't tell me something I don't know! Now, what about the computer?" |
| 17:26.55 | Kaso | that has to be the worst joke ive heard in ages :< |
| 17:28.14 | Thrae | Rodney Dangerfield marathon. |
| 17:29.14 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:30.09 | krka | now i just need a name for my lua jailor |
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| 17:32.44 | Cide | krka: what're you doing? |
| 17:33.49 | krka | a lua jail |
| 17:34.26 | Cairenn | sandbox, with a sand and pebbles and a red castle and a beachball and |
| 17:34.32 | krka | basically an environment where i can run lua programs and limit their memory usage, the number of instructions they can use and what functions they can access |
| 17:34.47 | Thrae | You're trying to emulate WoW's jail? |
| 17:34.57 | krka | also their interaction with other lua programs |
| 17:35.03 | krka | no, this is not wow related at all |
| 17:35.18 | krka | i am going to use it for making ai-competitions |
| 17:35.34 | Tem | AI written in lua? |
| 17:35.38 | Thrae | So you're making artificial intelligence for use on illegal WoW servers?! |
| 17:35.38 | krka | yes |
| 17:35.54 | krka | that's exactly right, you're really observant |
| 17:39.20 | Shadowed | 55 rage, shield slam parried, 51 rage remaining |
| 17:39.27 | Thrae | I once tried to code a jail, but the lawyer module kept throwing so many exceptions I had to demolish it! |
| 17:39.30 | Shadowed | h,, |
| 17:39.33 | Shadowed | hmmm* |
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| 17:41.26 | Shadowed | but then missing hamstring doesn't change rage |
| 17:42.26 | Thrae | Maybe they want some Warrior skills to be more strategic then others? |
| 17:43.17 | Thrae | The power of Shield Slam in PvP pales in comparison to Hamstring |
| 17:43.24 | Shadowed | think i'm doing the rage monitoring wrong |
| 17:43.39 | Thrae | Then again, what is a Warrior doing with a Shield in PvP unless they're fighting another Warrior... |
| 17:43.55 | Cide | carrying the flag :) |
| 17:44.12 | Shadowed | beating your rogues in DPS :p |
| 17:44.13 | Shadowed | 12 rage, Hamstring blocked, shield spec procs and i have 10 rage left, now 11. |
| 17:44.24 | Shadowed | wonder if it's half the rage cost floored |
| 17:44.26 | Thrae | Haha, I still see Warrior flag runners still not using their shields |
| 17:44.47 | Thrae | I bet they are full Fury or Fury/Arms and don't carry one ;) |
| 17:45.48 | Shadowed | 65 rage -> hamstring dodged -> 63 rage now! |
| 17:46.24 | Shadowed | i've ran out of mobs |
| 17:46.26 | Shadowed | :( |
| 17:48.00 | Thrae | One-Hand Axe of Uber DPS | Damage: 270-365 Swing: 3s | One-Hand Axe DPS: 140 | +40 Stamina | +40 Strength | Equip: +243 Attack Power | Equip: Make Rogues cry |
| 17:49.12 | zenzelezz | ZG with two priests, one druid, two paladins, six hunters, six warriors, three rogues... fun \o/ |
| 17:49.32 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 17:49.48 | Shadowed | it's not that bad, most of our rogues are daggers so they don't care about the DW weapons |
| 17:50.11 | Thrae | I'm talking about the Rogues on the other end of that Axe ;) |
| 17:50.31 | Shadowed | DW and health don't go together ;) |
| 17:50.36 | Shadowed | i'm squisher then a rogue in full DW gear |
| 17:50.53 | Tain | I'm dagger just from necessity of what weapons have dropped. |
| 17:51.03 | Thrae | Hey, it has +40 Stamina, and you don't need to taunt in PvP |
| 17:51.17 | Tain | Of course I don't PVP. |
| 17:51.41 | Shadowed | combat/daggers > combat/swords for DPS |
| 17:51.45 | Shadowed | except for our crazy servo arm rogue |
| 17:56.10 | Kirkburn | Woo, I just got excellent news :) |
| 17:56.24 | Kirkburn | One of my sisters is getting married! |
| 17:58.32 | Cairenn | grats to her :) |
| 17:59.51 | Kirkburn | He fiance proposed to her using a puzzle which spelled out the question :D |
| 18:00.01 | Cairenn | cute |
| 18:00.05 | Tain | Well combat/daggers on boss fights, on almost everything else swords has the edge. |
| 18:00.10 | Kirkburn | Very ;) |
| 18:00.56 | Tain | Damn that just made me question my entire dating life as I realized (probably for the first time) that I don't know if I could count on anyone I dated to solve a puzzle. |
| 18:01.47 | Kirkburn | Beauty minus the brains? |
| 18:01.57 | Tain | Beauty... uh... yeah. |
| 18:02.33 | Tain | Actually that's not really true and is mean to say, there have been some that weren't really puzzle solving types. |
| 18:02.49 | Thrae | There are a lot of beautiful people in this world. There are a lot of stupid people in this world. It's no surprise there are a lot of stupid and beautiful people in this world, but one does not necessarily go with the other ;) |
| 18:03.07 | Tain | But I dated a girl who had a BS in Math Sciences. She was very intelligent. Except she never figured out exactly how to turn a degree in Math into a career. |
| 18:03.28 | Tain | The last time I saw her was about ten years after we dated and she was still working at a bookstore. |
| 18:03.40 | Tain | Which is great if she enjoys that! I'd never fault someone for working somewhere they liked. |
| 18:04.05 | Tain | I just know she had told me she didn't want to work at the book store and it was just until she graduated. |
| 18:04.36 | Thrae | I don't know what you could do with a BS in Math except small business Accounting, Auditing, maybe a Lab Assistant, and of course, a teacher. |
| 18:04.56 | Kirkburn | My sister's new fiance is a maths teacher |
| 18:05.26 | Tain | Yeah there's a few jobs that are specific to it, people who calculate interest rates and stuff have to have math degrees in addition to others. |
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| 18:06.39 | Thrae | I would think people with -only- a Bachelor's Degree in Math except teachers are rare...if you took the interest enough to get a Bachelor's, you're probably more interested in it academically then career-wise. |
| 18:08.15 | Tain | Yeah my take on it was always that it's something someone does because they're really interested in learning it, not with thoughts towards your career. |
| 18:08.49 | Thrae | Art History Majors ;) |
| 18:09.43 | Shadowed | Tain: If you're raiding, boss fights is everything |
| 18:09.58 | Shadowed | you don't really care if you can do better as swords on trash :p |
| 18:12.13 | Tain | That's *mostly* true, Shadowed. |
| 18:12.27 | Tain | But there are times that daggers are a liability. |
| 18:12.34 | Tain | For example Phase 1 Nef. |
| 18:12.51 | Tain | Dagger Rogues never get to ramp up their damage, whereas sword rogues are steady throughout |
| 18:12.55 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 18:13.01 | Shadowed | ah |
| 18:13.37 | Tain | Things that bounce around a lot are also hell for dagger rogues who have to constantly reposition for backstabs. |
| 18:13.47 | Shadowed | when BWL was still new and everyone was in MC/blues, all of our rogues were daggers with one mace rogue, we were able to do him just fine |
| 18:13.52 | Shadowed | was never an issue of not enough DPS |
| 18:14.08 | Tain | It's situational. |
| 18:14.31 | Tain | For example we had dps problems early on in BWL on blue because of the melee slow |
| 18:14.57 | Shadowed | vael was a pita, but that was back when you only had an hour a night |
| 18:15.18 | Thrae | RogueL"I'm winning on DPS! I'm winning on DPS!" RL: "Damn you, get rid of DM and start using KLM!" Rogue: "OK." ...later... Rogue: "I'm winning on threat! I'm winning on threat!" |
| 18:15.28 | Shadowed | lol |
| 18:15.32 | Tain | Vael is one of the most fun fights to me. |
| 18:15.44 | Shadowed | i don't like vael, since i always die |
| 18:15.45 | Shadowed | damn bomb |
| 18:15.47 | Tain | haha |
| 18:16.05 | Tain | I've still never gotten the Geddon bomb and I'm feeling neglected. |
| 18:16.08 | Shadowed | although, tanking + bomb = fun |
| 18:16.17 | Shadowed | espically when i get it and he dies, i can hide in the corpse |
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| 18:16.44 | Tain | Blowing up half the raid is a great way to top the damage meters too |
| 18:16.54 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 18:16.55 | Shadowed | exactly |
| 18:16.57 | JoshBorke | lol tain |
| 18:17.56 | cmunn | That being said... It sure would be nice if damage meters had a "damage vs. raid" meter |
| 18:18.16 | Shadowed | SWStats does i thin |
| 18:18.17 | Shadowed | k |
| 18:18.25 | cmunn | Ooh |
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| 18:24.24 | vhaarr | Sup with wowwiki.com? |
| 18:24.35 | Shadowed | kirk killed it |
| 18:24.39 | vhaarr | >< |
| 18:25.09 | vhaarr | And searching for stuff on Thottbot gives me a internal server error. |
| 18:25.12 | vhaarr | bah |
| 18:29.41 | vhaarr | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch1p12.html Service Temporarily Unavailable |
| 18:29.48 | vhaarr | All WoW stuff is down today. |
| 18:29.50 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 18:29.55 | Shadowed | works fine for me |
| 18:30.05 | vhaarr | refreshed x5 now, nothing. |
| 18:30.26 | vhaarr | I'm looking for information on "Frost Trap Aura", which is a magic style debuff applied from the hunter trap. |
| 18:30.40 | vhaarr | Previously it could be dispelled and was reapplied after 2 seconds if you remained in the aura, but now it can't be dispelled. |
| 18:30.48 | vhaarr | Regardless, it is still marked as Magic. |
| 18:31.21 | vhaarr | So I'm wondering if it is supposed to be this way or if it is a bug. |
| 18:31.45 | Shadowed | No idea |
| 18:31.49 | Shadowed | probably intended |
| 18:31.58 | vhaarr | Probably, yeah. |
| 18:35.23 | MentalPower | hmm... I don't suppose any of you have EU WoW CDs that they could upload somewhere? |
| 18:35.52 | Elkano | why do you need them? simply download the demo |
| 18:35.53 | wereHamster | I have the CDs, but no place to upload them to... |
| 18:36.00 | MentalPower | I want to try out the new Spanish version of the game, but I need EU CDs to install the language pack |
| 18:36.30 | MentalPower | I've been trying to download the demo, but its freezing molasses slow |
| 18:36.38 | MentalPower | 3KB/s |
| 18:37.50 | Elkano | I think the english client was also hosted somewhere |
| 18:38.46 | MentalPower | if you find it, lemme know |
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| 18:56.12 | JoshBorke | ok bye |
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| 19:20.22 | Shadowed | wiki's back |
| 19:20.29 | Mikk | yay |
| 19:28.36 | Kirkburn | zomg whee |
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| 19:51.39 | GeoDaMancer | I hate xml, whoa-whoa-whoa... >.> |
| 19:51.58 | cmunn | xml loves you, anyways... |
| 19:52.43 | GeoDaMancer | I don't know why but when I try to add a button to the xml I'm using it does nozzing. |
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| 19:52.53 | cmunn | Is this button named "TheGoggles"? |
| 19:53.12 | GeoDaMancer | Nozzing. |
| 19:54.37 | GeoDaMancer | Yes, and as ironic as it is, the Frame's Powerplant.. And the button's supposed to call AcidWall or something like that. |
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| 19:56.03 | GeoDaMancer | Anyway, for some reason it's acting like there's an error in the button call, but I'm fairly certain it's in the correct place, and everything in it is correct. |
| 19:59.41 | GeoDaMancer | Hah! |
| 19:59.52 | GeoDaMancer | I found the problem! |
| 20:00.57 | GeoDaMancer | <AbsDeimension x="4" y="4"> Is wrong. xD |
| 20:01.31 | Tuller | <Size x="4" y="4"/> ? |
| 20:02.22 | GeoDaMancer | Nah, I just forgot the / in the statement. |
| 20:02.33 | GeoDaMancer | I opened it, but never closed it. |
| 20:03.10 | GeoDaMancer | Whooots. |
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| 20:04.41 | GeoDaMancer | ^_^ I is a happy Geo now. |
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| 20:26.22 | |FF|Im2good4u | they need to fix thottbot !! |
| 20:26.35 | |FF|Im2good4u | i need to know where to buy the thornium headded arrows :p |
| 20:26.46 | zenzelezz | check Allakhazam then |
| 20:26.48 | Mikk | you make thorium bullets and hand it in to an npc |
| 20:26.56 | Mikk | he gives you arrows back |
| 20:27.03 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah oke |
| 20:27.04 | Mikk | for alliance, there's one in the ironforge inn |
| 20:27.07 | Mikk | dunno where they are for horde |
| 20:27.22 | |FF|Im2good4u | im allience sadly i cant craft thornuim bullets thoghu :p |
| 20:27.23 | zenzelezz | wonder if he's walking around near where you sign up for BGs for Horde |
| 20:27.46 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhh.. Why can't you? |
| 20:28.09 | GeoDaMancer | Oh, never mind. >.> |
| 20:30.40 | Kirkburn | Favour needed - can anyone access the page linked from this page? http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:MediaWiki_%E9%96%8B%E7%99%BA&action=edit |
| 20:30.58 | Kaso | yes |
| 20:31.11 | Kirkburn | The Help:... page? |
| 20:31.31 | Kaso | yah |
| 20:31.34 | Kaso | Help:MediaWikić |
| 20:31.45 | Kaso | No text at this page |
| 20:32.08 | Kirkburn | So it's obviously not the correct one, eh? :P |
| 20:32.22 | GeoDaMancer | What Kaso said. |
| 20:32.25 | Kirkburn | I can't get to the one that's actually linked to delete it |
| 20:32.33 | Kaso | aaah |
| 20:32.37 | Mikk | I think the problem is encoding |
| 20:32.48 | Mikk | You need to view the page with the correct encoding to get the link to work |
| 20:32.56 | Mikk | So pasting the link here is too late -- it's already wrong |
| 20:33.06 | Kirkburn | That's why I didn't |
| 20:33.41 | Mikk | ah |
| 20:33.42 | Mikk | duh |
| 20:33.54 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 20:37.10 | Kirkburn | It's annoying me |
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| 20:52.49 | GeoDaMancer | AHhhh! I hate xml. |
| 20:52.57 | GeoDaMancer | And my monitor! |
| 20:56.30 | Mery | why don't you do y our frame stuff all in lua then? ;) |
| 21:02.13 | |FF|Im2good4u | or use wow ui desinger |
| 21:05.30 | Corrodias | boy, i have a weird error, now |
| 21:05.50 | Corrodias | mousing over "system messages" in a chat window's tab's context menu throws an error originating from the blizzard UI files |
| 21:06.36 | Corrodias | Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:183: Usage: DropDownList2Button2:SetText("text") |
| 21:09.35 | GeoDaMancer | Because I don't understand how the lua thing works either, and the ui designer can't do what I need. |
| 21:13.55 | Corrodias | both of my problems are caused by one of my addons starting with 'p' |
| 21:15.49 | Corrodias | sadly, it appears to be PerfectRaid... |
| 21:17.12 | Tem|Food | Corrodias, that's quite impossible |
| 21:17.41 | Tem|Food | I can assure you that PerfectRaid doesn't touch the ChatFrames |
| 21:17.58 | Corrodias | i may have an older version, 0.5.1 rather than 0.5.2. i'll update to check. plus, it may be interacting with another addon after "p" |
| 21:21.06 | Kamaris | does anyone know how badly the multiline editbox lags on pasting in a lot of lines? |
| 21:21.08 | Corrodias | just updating it didn't fix it. the other problem is that upon loading the UI, i get: Interface\AddOns\FuBar-compat-1.2\CompostLib\CompostLib.lua:53: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 21:21.23 | Corrodias | and praid isn't a fubar plugin, i know |
| 21:21.47 | Corrodias | but disabling that makes the problem go away, as well as the other one. now checking against post-'p' addon interactions... |
| 21:22.33 | GeoDaMancer | I think my graphics card is having an aneurism. ~_~ |
| 21:23.08 | Corrodias | compost lib error goes away if i disable my "s" addons... chat frame error is still there |
| 21:23.19 | AnduinLothar | shove asprin in the cd drive |
| 21:23.57 | GeoDaMancer | I wish that'd help. The monitor is not receiving the red component right now. ~_~ |
| 21:24.07 | Corrodias | re-enabling Squishy returns the compostlib error |
| 21:26.26 | Corrodias | is there a way to see more than the -last- error thrown? |
| 21:28.12 | Corrodias | even if perfectraid is the only addon enabled, i still get the bliz UI error |
| 21:40.24 | AnduinLothar | give oyur monitor the red pill |
| 21:40.37 | AnduinLothar | Stack Track |
| 21:40.58 | AnduinLothar | ImprovedErrorFrame in Cosmos alpha should have stack track, there's also some other addons |
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| 21:45.36 | Corrodias | thanks |
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| 21:47.37 | Kirkburn | HEYA |
| 21:47.40 | clad | =) |
| 21:47.40 | Kirkburn | oops |
| 21:47.42 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 21:48.16 | clad | Just wanted to stop in and say hi |
| 21:48.24 | Kirkburn | How goes it? |
| 21:48.39 | clad | I head home tomorrow morning, and hopefully I can avoid work from sucking me into my own personal black hole for a week :P |
| 21:51.01 | clad | <3 |
| 21:51.10 | clad | just wanted to stop in.. gonna go make some phone calls and head to bed |
| 21:51.12 | clad | night!# |
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| 21:56.37 | Corrodias | oddly, perfectraid also appears to be responsible for Squishy throwing the compostlib error on load :| |
| 21:56.51 | Corrodias | partly responsible, i'll say |
| 22:03.57 | Tem|Food | Corrodias, I'm 99% sure you're blaming PRaid for stuff that is not it's fault |
| 22:04.54 | Tem|Food | here's something odd... calling frame:GetPoint("TOPLEFT") works |
| 22:05.19 | Tem|Food | Slouken didn't tell us about that |
| 22:07.34 | Corrodias | look, i'm sorry, but even having praid as the only addon active gives me an error when mousing over that menu item, even on a new character. i can give you IEF's stack trace. |
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| 22:08.17 | Tem|Food | sure |
| 22:08.29 | Tem|Food | but first, 2 questions |
| 22:08.39 | Tem|Food | 1: where did you get it |
| 22:08.48 | Corrodias | praid? wowi.com |
| 22:08.53 | Corrodias | just now, updated to 0.5.2 |
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| 22:21.10 | Kirkburn1 | I love this, it's like doing WoW quests, but in Warcraft 3 :) |
| 22:22.52 | AnduinLothar | orc campain? |
| 22:22.58 | Kirkburn1 | yup |
| 22:23.03 | AnduinLothar | ya i love that one |
| 22:23.22 | Kirkburn1 | Loads of little side dungeons to go into and kill stuff in |
| 22:23.35 | AnduinLothar | rpg in an rts environment |
| 22:24.16 | AnduinLothar | no having to mess with the camra :) |
| 22:26.23 | Kaelten | ello |
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| 22:33.45 | GeoDaMancer | Yay! Red! |
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| 22:39.13 | GeoDaMancer | It's disturbing not to the red leave your monitor. |
| 22:39.13 | GeoDaMancer | Any picture of people ends up looking like a corpse. xD |
| 22:39.31 | Legorol|dinner | is there an experienced Prot warrior around? |
| 22:39.49 | Legorol | i'm 1 point away from my ideal talent build: |
| 22:39.50 | Corrodias | i lost my Blue wire connection, once. everything was yellow. |
| 22:40.09 | Legorol | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/warrior/talents.html?0500000000000000000505010000000000054250113530201201 |
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| 22:40.20 | Legorol | i'd love to have 5 in Anticipation, where could i take it form |
| 22:40.20 | doktoreas | hi to all! |
| 22:40.22 | Legorol | *from |
| 22:40.23 | Legorol | hi |
| 22:40.29 | Legorol | also, general comments.. |
| 22:40.51 | doktoreas | never tought i could found a wow channel in freenode |
| 22:41.19 | ckknight | doktoreas, there's a few. |
| 22:41.35 | doktoreas | i thought only linux on freenode ;) |
| 22:43.23 | GeoDaMancer | I think I'd prefer that, Corr. |
| 22:43.46 | AnduinLothar | it's "WoW for Coders" so freenode makes sense |
| 22:45.32 | doktoreas | now i understand |
| 22:46.14 | doktoreas | what you think it's the lighter interface for wow? |
| 22:46.38 | AnduinLothar | try again |
| 22:47.01 | Corrodias | we didn't understand that |
| 22:47.15 | doktoreas | the one the uses less resources |
| 22:47.32 | AnduinLothar | depends on what you do want |
| 22:47.44 | AnduinLothar | if you want no resources just play in alt-z |
| 22:48.28 | AnduinLothar | lots of addons claim to use few resources tho, take your pick |
| 22:48.33 | doktoreas | alt z and tcraid ;) |
| 22:48.38 | AnduinLothar | some people are fanatical about it |
| 22:48.41 | doktoreas | *ctraid |
| 22:48.58 | Corrodias | i, on the other hand, gladly let my addons have the ~80mb they currently use |
| 22:49.18 | Corrodias | well, 74-93 |
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| 22:57.10 | GeoDaMancer | AHHH! |
| 22:57.48 | doktoreas | do you know about perl classic? |
| 22:58.47 | Legorol | Is it just me or are the 1.12.1 PTRs down? |
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| 23:07.16 | ckknight | so what race do people recommend for a Pally? Dwarf or Human? |
| 23:07.36 | AnduinLothar | human |
| 23:07.49 | GeoDaMancer | Nnn For the light. >.> |
| 23:07.59 | Mery | female dwarf for looks |
| 23:08.23 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 23:08.27 | Kaso | human for spirit bonus! |
| 23:08.40 | Mery | human for diplomacy |
| 23:08.57 | GeoDaMancer | Displomacy can mess you up though. |
| 23:08.58 | zenzelezz | The Human Spirit pwns for warriors! |
| 23:09.04 | GeoDaMancer | Diplomacy |
| 23:09.05 | ckknight | GeoDaMancer, how so? |
| 23:10.08 | GeoDaMancer | Well, only in one circumstance. When dealing with the Faire, you get tickets less easily, since the increase lowers the amount of Rep raising quests you can turn in. |
| 23:11.43 | Corrodias | shit, i think my realm just died |
| 23:12.05 | Kaso | a minor inconvenance for the major boost Diplomacy is |
| 23:12.19 | GeoDaMancer | That's true. |
| 23:12.24 | GeoDaMancer | All but one of my characters is human. |
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| 23:12.51 | GeoDaMancer | In xml, can you put buttons into layers? |
| 23:14.13 | Mery | no buttons belong into <Frames> |
| 23:15.28 | GeoDaMancer | Alright. |
| 23:17.00 | Tuller | but you can mess with framelevel for a given button |
| 23:17.44 | GeoDaMancer | Can you do it in p-- Never mind. |
| 23:30.32 | Tem|Food | Diplomacy is the best racial in the game |
| 23:30.44 | Tem|Food | I spend less time grinding for the same rep as everyone else |
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| 23:39.23 | vhaarr | ckknight: Human is best as Paladin - you have what Dwarves get already; poison cleaning. |
| 23:39.49 | vhaarr | and paladins can't use guns. |
| 23:40.23 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 23:40.27 | vhaarr | wrong channel, I guess. |
| 23:40.34 | vhaarr | ah, no |
| 23:40.42 | zenzelezz | nope, right channel |
| 23:42.05 | Tain | I still take Humans for any meleer for the weapon skill bonus, and Diplomacy. |
| 23:42.07 | GeoDaMancer | Good job, mang. |
| 23:42.42 | zenzelezz | I took human because I didn't want to be pink, the size of a football, or... well, a dwarf |
| 23:42.48 | zenzelezz | they're just too small for warriors |
| 23:43.22 | GeoDaMancer | Hahahah. |
| 23:44.35 | Tain | I don't like dwarf warriors becuase it is harder to spot a tank at a glance |
| 23:44.52 | Tain | I also don't like Tauren warriors because it's harder to spot anything else besides them. |
| 23:45.21 | Corrodias | yeah. that's true. |
| 23:45.28 | Corrodias | also why i don't like bear form |
| 23:45.52 | Tain | I solve that by just disliking druids in general. |
| 23:46.42 | ckknight | I don't know what to play :'( |
| 23:46.52 | zenzelezz | I agree about the hard-to-spot part, but I think tauren and orc both look warrior-like by nature |
| 23:46.57 | zenzelezz | big, mean stuff |
| 23:48.10 | ckknight | I don't know what class, race, or faction I want to play on |
| 23:48.30 | zenzelezz | abandoned your existing characters? |
| 23:48.41 | Tain | I always thought there should be class-war servers. |
| 23:48.42 | ckknight | what existing characters? |
| 23:48.45 | Tain | Screw horde verses alliance. |
| 23:48.54 | Tain | It should be druids verses shamans verses rogues |
| 23:48.59 | ckknight | hehe |
| 23:49.14 | Mikk | noooo, druid pvp! |
| 23:49.41 | Tain | Although a mass druid team would be really pretty formidable. |
| 23:49.51 | Mikk | i mean druid vs druid |
| 23:49.51 | ckknight | someone tell me what to play. |
| 23:50.14 | Mikk | what have you played so far? |
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| 23:50.22 | Mikk | what have you played so far? |
| 23:50.35 | ckknight_ | blah |
| 23:50.39 | ckknight_ | basically everything, a little |
| 23:50.49 | zenzelezz | what sort of stuff do you like to do? |
| 23:50.51 | ckknight_ | typically been a priest of sorts |
| 23:50.59 | ckknight_ | I like not dying |
| 23:51.03 | Mikk | paladin then :-P |
| 23:51.22 | ckknight_ | not sure I want to do a pally, though :-P |
| 23:51.24 | Mikk | hehe |
| 23:51.26 | Corrodias | i'd rather suggest the horde because we are cool |
| 23:51.27 | Tain | Paladin, the class that lives by attrition. |
| 23:51.29 | Corrodias | and alliance is jerks |
| 23:51.32 | ckknight_ | I'm typically a Horde |
| 23:51.37 | ckknight_ | and yes, Alliance are jerks |
| 23:51.37 | zenzelezz | hunters can often feign, but that's not a guarantee |
| 23:51.50 | ckknight_ | let me rephrase it, then |
| 23:51.53 | ckknight_ | I like having fun. |
| 23:51.55 | Corrodias | hunter, that's an entertaining one |
| 23:52.03 | Corrodias | but what you find to be fun makes a difference |
| 23:52.09 | vhaarr | ckknight: warlocks are fun |
| 23:52.11 | Mikk | aye :-P |
| 23:52.17 | Mikk | i liked warlocks before 60 |
| 23:52.23 | Corrodias | druids get a bit of healing, a bit of the energy-dps thing, and can do tanking, too |
| 23:52.28 | Mikk | they just turn into a portable gun turret in raids though :-( |
| 23:52.29 | Corrodias | if you want variety |
| 23:52.31 | ckknight | ah, I played locks too much already :-P |
| 23:52.32 | zenzelezz | I find playing a warrior fun, but that does involve dying now and then |
| 23:52.34 | ckknight | I think I may do a hunter |
| 23:52.45 | ckknight | or a warrior |
| 23:52.47 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 23:52.50 | Mikk | druids get the most fun now i think |
| 23:52.57 | Mikk | can do pretty much everything |
| 23:52.59 | Tain | I like Hunters because you have a lot of options. |
| 23:53.14 | GeoDaMancer | I like'a'to stab. : D |
| 23:53.15 | Tain | Warriors don't have a lot of options. |
| 23:53.38 | Mikk | they have one more than warlocks, mages and warriors :-P |
| 23:53.41 | vhaarr | druids are crap to level |
| 23:53.45 | vhaarr | not fun at all |
| 23:53.53 | Mikk | vhaarr: that was before the druid love patch, right? |
| 23:53.54 | Tain | When I was playing a warrior (only got to 32 I think) you pretty much didn't have a lot of variety in what you were doing. |
| 23:53.55 | vhaarr | warriors are not fun to level |
| 23:53.57 | ckknight | yea, I do want to have fun leveling |
| 23:53.58 | vhaarr | Mikk: no |
| 23:54.05 | vhaarr | warlock and rogue is fun leveling |
| 23:54.06 | Mikk | warriors level fast as hell |
| 23:54.11 | vhaarr | no they die alot |
| 23:54.11 | Mikk | gogo fury build |
| 23:54.26 | Mikk | rogue speed levelling |
| 23:54.27 | vhaarr | and you are so dependent on lucky weapon drops that it's not funny |
| 23:54.30 | Tain | Problem with warriors levelling (to me) is you're completely gear dependant. |
| 23:54.34 | vhaarr | yes |
| 23:54.35 | zenzelezz | warriors get a choice between DPS and tanking; although most people assume you're all tanks |
| 23:54.41 | Tain | Battles are almost decided before you start whether ot not you can win. |
| 23:54.42 | Mikk | fury warrs aren't as dependent on weapon drops |
| 23:54.49 | Mikk | much of their dps is AP based |
| 23:54.53 | vhaarr | err |
| 23:54.59 | vhaarr | we're talking about leveling here |
| 23:55.04 | vhaarr | 1-60 |
| 23:55.05 | Mikk | yes? |
| 23:55.14 | zenzelezz | <Tain> Problem with warriors levelling (to me) is you're completely gear dependant. <--- depends what you mean |
| 23:55.14 | Mikk | still true |
| 23:55.25 | Mikk | if you want to level a warrior, go fury |
| 23:55.25 | ckknight | Mikk, should I play a warrior? |
| 23:55.31 | zenzelezz | I did 1-60 using almost exclusively drops, except the weapon; as 2h arms |
| 23:55.42 | zenzelezz | since I just wanted to hit 60 again before working on gear |
| 23:55.48 | GeoDaMancer | It means that it sucks if you can't get good drops. |
| 23:55.55 | Mikk | ckknight: well.. a fury warrior is like a rogue except without stealth and stuns |
| 23:56.01 | Mikk | grinds fast as hell |
| 23:56.05 | Mikk | but not very many fun options |
| 23:56.05 | ckknight | alright |
| 23:56.07 | Mikk | rogues are fun imo |
| 23:56.09 | vhaarr | I have a 60 priest, rogue, warlock and warrior and the warlock was definetely most fun to level |
| 23:56.11 | ckknight | I don't like rogues |
| 23:56.11 | GeoDaMancer | My level 18 warrior gets ass-handed when taking on mages three-four levels lower 'cause of lack of good gear. |
| 23:56.13 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:56.16 | GeoDaMancer | YES! Rogues are great. |
| 23:56.18 | Tain | Yeah but Rogues have so many more options when something goes wrong in a fight. |
| 23:56.19 | ckknight | just my own stigma, though |
| 23:56.26 | Mikk | i've levelled a warlock, paladin and rogue |
| 23:56.31 | GeoDaMancer | Ninja Vanish. xD |
| 23:56.39 | Mikk | the warlock was lots of fun levelling imo. lots of options. |
| 23:56.42 | ckknight | what'd be a good race for a Warrior? |
| 23:56.45 | Mikk | paladin was a right pain |
| 23:56.49 | Tain | The thing I didn't like about levelling a warrior was there didn't feel to be as much strategy involved as with some other classes. |
| 23:56.57 | Mikk | ckknight: orc, tauren, night elf |
| 23:57.03 | zenzelezz | ckknight: as horde or alliance? |
| 23:57.04 | ckknight | taurens are big |
| 23:57.06 | Tain | You were either stronger than your opponent or you weren't and could only shift things a little. |
| 23:57.11 | ckknight | I kinda lean toward Horde |
| 23:57.20 | zenzelezz | orc or tauren might be best |
| 23:57.21 | vhaarr | tauren then, +hp is nice |
| 23:57.30 | vhaarr | depends if your end goal is pvp or pve |
| 23:57.34 | ckknight | I think I may go Orc |
| 23:57.54 | zenzelezz | I liked my orc warrior |
| 23:58.05 | ckknight | how come no one plays Troll Warrior? |
| 23:58.10 | vhaarr | some do |
| 23:58.17 | ckknight | Berserk seems like it's usable |
| 23:58.21 | zenzelezz | not many worthwhile troll racials I think |
| 23:58.22 | GeoDaMancer | Yep, Tain, I agree there. What I do when fighting with my Warrior is so... Scripted... That I made it literal. |
| 23:58.48 | ckknight | are Undead poor Warriors or what's the deal with that? |
| 23:58.56 | Tain | Because Trolls are the worst sounding and acting race, that quasi-Jamacain crap bugs the hell out of me. |
| 23:59.05 | Mikk | undeads have no racials that are attractive to warriors |
| 23:59.11 | GeoDaMancer | I think they would be, but then I don't see how they could be rogues either. |
| 23:59.12 | vhaarr | undeads have Will of the Forsaken, which is a pvp utility |
| 23:59.13 | Mikk | fear immune? any warrior can do that |
| 23:59.22 | ckknight | Mikk, they can? |
| 23:59.26 | GeoDaMancer | I mean, it's hard to be stealthy when you stink like.. Rotting flesh. |
| 23:59.27 | Mikk | gogo zerker stance |
| 23:59.28 | zenzelezz | berserker rage |
| 23:59.29 | vhaarr | yes, berserk stance |
| 23:59.32 | ckknight | ah |
| 23:59.35 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:59.36 | zenzelezz | 30 second cooldown |
| 23:59.44 | vhaarr | but WoTF gives you another one |
| 23:59.50 | vhaarr | which is nice for pvp |
| 23:59.53 | Mikk | aye but zerker stance covers most of it |
| 23:59.57 | vhaarr | yep |
| 23:59.58 | Tain | That's the whole thing, for pvp it's good to have multiple. |
