| 00:01.43 | Grem | Can anyone tell me how accurate GetPlayerMapPosition("unit"); is? |
| 00:01.53 | Grem | Like, can you find the exact distance between yourself and a party member? |
| 00:02.07 | Cairenn | not possible |
| 00:02.18 | Qzot | Mmm. I'm not so sure... |
| 00:02.19 | Cairenn | sec |
| 00:02.27 | Qzot | You only know your position. |
| 00:02.28 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4658 |
| 00:02.35 | Cairenn | best you can get is an estimate |
| 00:02.36 | Qzot | Your party member only knows theirs. |
| 00:03.19 | Cairenn | rofl, talk about bumping an ages dead thread, Qzot |
| 00:03.26 | Qzot | Hehe. |
| 00:03.39 | Kirov | actually, you can get the location of all party and raid members |
| 00:03.44 | Qzot | But I had to correct that error, no? |
| 00:03.44 | Kirov | and it's fairly accurate |
| 00:03.53 | Mery | no in a zone where blizzard provides a map you know the position of yourself and party memebers |
| 00:04.21 | Cairenn | you're gonna confuse the n00bs Qzot, they're all gonna decide that means there's a BlizzCon this year :p |
| 00:04.23 | Qzot | Kirov/Mery: Right you are. My bad. |
| 00:04.53 | Qzot | Cairenn: Really? I thought I was making clear there would *not* be a BC this year. :D |
| 00:05.10 | Cairenn | they'll just see the subject line and ignore the rest :p |
| 00:05.12 | Qzot | Yes! You heard it hear! NO BC THIS YEAR!!! |
| 00:05.34 | Cairenn | here* :p |
| 00:05.56 | Qzot | I hate making spelling mistakes/typos/thinkos. |
| 00:06.12 | Kirov | Grem - When the player is in an area where you can't see their position on the map, you can't check for locations. This means almost any raid situation except for outdoor bosses and battlegrounds you cannot use that function. |
| 00:06.14 | Mery | now you can read it as "NO (BlizzCon / Burning Crusade) THIS YEAR!!!" |
| 00:06.37 | Qzot | O RLY? |
| 00:07.35 | Qzot | Cairenn: Should I create a new post, title "NO BC THIS YEAR!" where I make it clear that there *is* no BlizzCon this year? |
| 00:08.20 | Cairenn | it's fine, thanks anyway Qzot :p |
| 00:08.28 | Cairenn | ~roll eyes Qzot |
| 00:08.30 | purl | ACTION stuffs eyes Qzot in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
| 00:08.41 | Cairenn | hrm |
| 00:08.46 | Cairenn | ~sigh Qzot |
| 00:08.47 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Qzot!" |
| 00:08.51 | Cairenn | ah, there we go |
| 00:08.57 | Qzot | LOL |
| 00:09.21 | Cairenn | although the hamster ball is not bad either |
| 00:09.40 | Qzot | "stuffs eyes Qzot"? |
| 00:09.50 | Qzot | I don't think I even know what that means... |
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| 00:19.36 | Qzot | Way cool. Jane Austen' Pride and Prejudice as hypertext. And decently done, afaict. |
| 00:19.55 | Qzot | http://www.pemberley.com/janeinfo/pridprej.html |
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| 00:24.16 | zespri | should I play wow, a start packing to my house move? |
| 00:24.27 | zespri | that's the question |
| 00:24.46 | Kirov | zespri - wow |
| 00:24.48 | Kirov | that's what I did |
| 00:24.49 | Qzot | How many more hours until the movers show up? |
| 00:25.42 | zespri | 118.5 hours |
| 00:25.46 | Kirkburn | When did we first find out blood elves were the first BC race? |
| 00:25.54 | Qzot | At any point where you ask yourself that question, rememeber you can always squeeze out 10% of your time for WoW. So play WoW for 10% of the time until the movers come. Then, ask yourself that question again. |
| 00:26.10 | Qzot | Sep/Oct, 2005. |
| 00:26.18 | Kirkburn | Because I've got a screenshot here from the 25th of JULY 2005 |
| 00:26.21 | Grem | Why are the Pitch camera movement functions protected but not the yaw camera movement? |
| 00:26.28 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:StartArea_Bloodelf.jpg |
| 00:26.38 | Kirkburn | Look at the original upload date |
| 00:26.50 | Qzot | Hmm. I might be wrong, then. |
| 00:26.52 | Kirkburn | (do NOT whatever you do look at the 2nd revision, it's porn) |
| 00:27.00 | Kirkburn | Qzot, no, I think you're right |
| 00:27.02 | zespri | LOLZ |
| 00:27.16 | Kirov | *goes to look at the second revision* |
| 00:27.26 | Kaso | psh thats not even good porn |
| 00:27.29 | Kirkburn | But that screenshot proved it soooo much earlier than I ever thought |
| 00:27.47 | Kirkburn | Even a few days before Blizzcon it was in doubt |
| 00:27.51 | GeoDaMancer | Kirk:BC was announced some time in april, I think, at least... That's when I started playing, and that's when I started playing. |
| 00:28.13 | Kirkburn | But I thought the BE annoucement wasn't until Blizzcon |
| 00:28.27 | GeoDaMancer | It was rumored at least. |
| 00:28.29 | TS|Skrom | Kirk... that says july 2006 |
| 00:28.30 | GeoDaMancer | I think. ~_~ |
| 00:28.47 | Kirkburn | I was to crawl into a corner right now |
| 00:28.47 | GeoDaMancer | I don't remember. |
| 00:28.57 | GeoDaMancer | Da Geo's mind's sort of gone at this point. |
| 00:29.02 | Kirkburn | Someone kill TS|Skrom |
| 00:29.16 | zespri | to manifestate my frustration with paladins I'm going to start a BE/drae palading when BC comes out |
| 00:29.26 | TS|Skrom | noooooo |
| 00:29.35 | Kirkburn | nvm that conversation then, but I hope you enjoyed the porn ... |
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| 00:30.06 | zespri | I didn't! You asked not to look there!!! |
| 00:30.06 | TS|Skrom | I love the caption : a bloodelf in action |
| 00:30.46 | GeoDaMancer | Oh, Kirk I love your quit message. xD |
| 00:30.57 | dorbak | could I bother someone to look at my pastey code and let me know what stupidity I'm doing? (http://wowi.pastey.net/699) --- I'd appreciate the help :( |
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| 00:31.06 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 00:31.16 | dorbak | I can answer any questions you may have |
| 00:31.27 | Kirkburn | There really was going to be a link there, but, er, some people got upset at me |
| 00:32.49 | GeoDaMancer | Heheheh. I'm pissed ab LoZ:TP. xD |
| 00:33.23 | GeoDaMancer | What error're you gettin' dor? |
| 00:33.39 | dorbak | Error: Interface\AddOns\TellHell\TellHell.lua:180: attempt to concatenate global `tempvar1' (a nil value) |
| 00:33.58 | dorbak | but with :180 being :13 in the actual pastey code block |
| 00:34.43 | GeoDaMancer | Is the out for Value Passed correct? |
| 00:35.53 | zespri | are you sure that your out function doesn't eat babies? |
| 00:36.17 | TS|Skrom | zespri That's the "in" function you are thinking of |
| 00:36.27 | GeoDaMancer | Damn baby eating functions. They make Jesus frown. |
| 00:36.32 | dorbak | heh --- it's the same out function that I've been using since working from Faraframes it's fairly simple |
| 00:36.33 | TS|Skrom | specifically Get:in(myBelly) |
| 00:36.47 | dorbak | function out(text)DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(text);UIErrorsFrame:AddMessage(text, 1.0, 1.0, 0, 1, 10);end |
| 00:37.14 | dorbak | I'm just using Out() as my method of MsgBox'es to help with debugging |
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| 00:37.51 | dorbak | I load up my TempArray2 in /mydebug show, and it shows the contents of the array just fine (leading me to believe that the array is sound) |
| 00:37.55 | zespri | ok is it possible that agrg1 has a value of string in it and not a number |
| 00:38.01 | GeoDaMancer | dorb, is line 11 in there outputting right? |
| 00:38.07 | zespri | like "1" instead of 1 |
| 00:38.25 | dorbak | oooohhh |
| 00:38.54 | dorbak | I wonder if I need to do a tonumber(arg1) before using it.... |
| 00:39.57 | TS|Skrom | dorbak, cutnpaste getWhisperType please |
| 00:39.58 | dorbak | that was it |
| 00:40.01 | TS|Skrom | nm |
| 00:40.07 | dorbak | arg1 was a string, and I thought it was a number |
| 00:40.26 | dorbak | I love bouncing problems off of you guys :) |
| 00:40.28 | dorbak | gals |
| 00:40.53 | dorbak | thanks again :) |
| 00:41.10 | TS|Skrom | see I always thought when you get to tanaris the "STV mentality" stops |
| 00:41.15 | TS|Skrom | guess I thought wrong >< |
| 00:41.31 | TS|Skrom | I just love getting seduce nuked by a warlock in tier 3 |
| 00:41.37 | TS|Skrom | on a 45 shaman... |
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| 00:43.49 | Tuller | If I switch Bagnon to use a list view for showing saved data from other characters, how many people will attempt to kill me? :) |
| 00:44.33 | Zicon | Hmmm. I just might love you. |
| 00:56.29 | TS|Skrom | what's the fastest casting non instant spell you can think of :D |
| 00:57.44 | Tuller | wrath? |
| 00:57.59 | TS|Skrom | .... the next mod i'm going to write is going to play a wave file at me that says "hey dumbass you are attacking a red mob again" |
| 00:59.15 | TS|Skrom | gee george, why is he resisting everything? |
| 00:59.27 | GeoDaMancer | Good idea. |
| 00:59.41 | GeoDaMancer | I need one of those. xD |
| 01:00.25 | TS|Skrom | I don't know why I can't look before I frost shock |
| 01:00.32 | GeoDaMancer | George? |
| 01:00.56 | Kirkburn | Now that confused me |
| 01:01.14 | Kirkburn | I almost thought you were talking to me :P |
| 01:01.47 | TS|Skrom | did I say kirkburn? go crawl back in your hole :P |
| 01:02.02 | cmunn | Ahhh the love |
| 01:02.46 | Kirkburn | mmmm |
| 01:02.51 | TS|Skrom | why do the same mobs that drop a grey axe worth 1.5 gold also drop a dew gland worth 40 copper? |
| 01:03.28 | Mikk | to make you sort your inventory |
| 01:03.41 | TS|Skrom | itemized deductions ftw |
| 01:04.51 | TS|Skrom | my brother's going to kill me |
| 01:05.02 | TS|Skrom | I'm using up all the food he's been saving for 20 levels for some reason |
| 01:05.07 | TS|Skrom | he must never eat or drink... |
| 01:05.58 | TS|Skrom | this is actually kinda making me want to play my shaman which I've completely neglected |
| 01:06.04 | GeoDaMancer | I never use food, or drink. <.< |
| 01:06.22 | TS|Skrom | heh you should see me on a mage |
| 01:06.35 | TS|Skrom | it's like I'm irish... fight, drink, fight, drink, fight, drink |
| 01:06.49 | TS|Skrom | No offense to any other irish people in the channel :D |
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| 01:08.11 | gnorlish | if they're irish |
| 01:08.17 | gnorlish | they won't be offended! |
| 01:08.20 | GeoDaMancer | Yay. sixty MPH winds heading my way. |
| 01:08.25 | TS|Skrom | point taken :D |
| 01:08.35 | GeoDaMancer | No 'fense taken, man. |
| 01:08.41 | TS|Skrom | I'm irish but I don't drink :-) |
| 01:09.00 | GeoDaMancer | Exactly! |
| 01:09.08 | GeoDaMancer | And if we are, it only takes a fight and a drink to make us forgive. xD |
| 01:09.21 | Omnistegan | ok guys, I have a quick question. I have some experiance in coding, but not in lua. I've gotten sick wnough of some addons to decide to try to start making some of my own. Start with 5.1.1 to be ready for expansion? Or are there enough changes that I won't be able to use 5.1.1 pre-expansion at all? |
| 01:09.42 | TS|Skrom | there's only a few very small changes to 5.1 |
| 01:09.44 | GeoDaMancer | I drink, sometimes, but I don't drink. |
| 01:10.12 | TS|Skrom | nothing that most addons won't be able to fix with a find...replace |
| 01:10.19 | Omnistegan | alright, thats good to know. I wasn't really sure considering how big of a deal it seemed when it was announced |
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| 01:15.28 | TS|Skrom | oh so yeah, earlier I asked about the fastest non instant spell... |
| 01:15.41 | TS|Skrom | I think it might be a fully berserked, talented ghost wolf |
| 01:15.45 | TS|Skrom | .7 sec casting time :D |
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| 01:16.36 | Omnistegan | Does Slam count as a spell? Or escape artist? |
| 01:17.01 | TS|Skrom | ooo I did forget about slam |
| 01:17.11 | TS|Skrom | and EA |
| 01:17.11 | Omnistegan | a beserked slam would be quick |
| 01:17.14 | Tem | Anyone know if there's a combat event for when people begin capturing a node in AB or AV? |
| 01:17.32 | Tem | I assume no, but I figured it was worth asking |
| 01:17.51 | TS|Skrom | PLAYER_ALL_CAPTURED_BASE_BELONG_US |
| 01:18.02 | Flyoc | hurray for server restart changing server name |
| 01:18.07 | Flyoc | AND FUCKING ALL MY ADDONS |
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| 01:19.38 | AnduinLothar | changing server name, what? |
| 01:20.14 | Flyoc | Shadow Moon became Shadowmoon |
| 01:20.26 | AnduinLothar | owned.. |
| 01:20.39 | Flyoc | nah |
| 01:20.53 | AnduinLothar | that's liek when "Kil'Jaeden " became "Kil'Jaeden" |
| 01:21.16 | TS|Skrom | ... |
| 01:21.19 | TS|Skrom | I'm not seeing it |
| 01:22.36 | Tem | space at the end, yo |
| 01:22.43 | TS|Skrom | O.o |
| 01:23.07 | GeoDaMancer | TS, you forgot ARE in the event. <.< |
| 01:23.23 | TS|Skrom | I didn't want to be too obvious :D |
| 01:23.42 | TS|Skrom | stop resisting my damn frost shocks >< |
| 01:24.15 | GeoDaMancer | Heheheheheh. |
| 01:25.02 | Tem | stop being so damned overpowered |
| 01:25.02 | Cairenn | http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=714 hahhahahaha |
| 01:25.11 | Tem | Cairenn, I want the "MORE DOTS" shirt |
| 01:25.31 | Tem | http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=700 |
| 01:25.32 | TS|Skrom | shaman are overpower? |
| 01:25.33 | Kirkburn | niec :D |
| 01:25.37 | TS|Skrom | then why am I leveling so slow |
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| 01:31.50 | Mikk | because shamans are as fun to level as paladins |
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| 01:46.28 | GeoDaMancer | Is a line in the tooltip is blank, does it return nil, or ""? |
| 01:46.35 | GeoDaMancer | ^If^ |
| 01:48.52 | Kirkburn | Well, I have now learnt why never to use 'rollback' on your own edits on the wiki |
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| 01:49.02 | Qzot | Buy, gyes. |
| 01:49.11 | TS|Skrom | why is that jefe? |
| 01:49.38 | zespri | I have a big grief. My wife left me and she won't return before than in 3 hours. I need to do something to ease my burdan, I think I'll go and by radeon 1900 xtx |
| 01:49.47 | Kirkburn | I managed to revert the main page of the wiki to a version from nearly 2 weeks ago |
| 01:50.08 | TS|Skrom | she "left you" or just went out? |
| 01:50.11 | Kirkburn | "My wife left me", is quite a leading phrase, y'know |
| 01:50.12 | TS|Skrom | oy |
| 01:50.32 | zespri | lol |
| 01:51.05 | TS|Skrom | if youi are water walking do you still get fatigued if you go out too far? |
| 01:51.12 | Kirkburn | yes |
| 01:51.29 | Tem | Cide, you around? |
| 01:51.35 | Cide | yup |
| 01:51.41 | Tem | why does /rs still exist? |
| 01:51.46 | zespri | she'll be back, but she left me indeed, went help out our couleeges to preapre a party tommorow, which we both won't be able to attend because we need to pack up beofre we move |
| 01:52.00 | Cide | because /rw sucks (in my opinion) and bossmods need that functionality |
| 01:52.12 | TS|Skrom | okay... stop saying "she left me" because that makes people like me feel sorry for you.. :P |
| 01:52.13 | Cide | in ctra2 it's gone |
| 01:52.33 | Tem | just alias /rw |
| 01:52.40 | Tem | and make the RWFrame not suck |
| 01:52.40 | Cide | yeah |
| 01:52.50 | Cide | that's what I did |
| 01:53.00 | Tem | in 2? |
| 01:53.05 | Tem | when's 2 coming out? |
| 01:53.10 | zespri | oh I'm so sorry for my self, TS_Skorm |
| 01:54.12 | Tem | zespri, I know what would make you feel better |
| 01:54.13 | zespri | I feel immense pain, that only buying someything such as Radeon 1900 xtx can aleviate it a bit! |
| 01:54.19 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki: There have been a total of 29,024,092 page views, and 260,580 page edits since the wiki was setup. That comes to 7.12 average edits per page, and 111.38 views per edit. |
| 01:54.36 | Tem | Zespri, I think that some community service would make your day better |
| 01:55.03 | Tem | zespri, specifically, buying a poor man a computer |
| 01:55.10 | GeoDaMancer | WoW, Kirkles. |
| 01:55.13 | zespri | community service as in "sentesened to two weeks of community service" ? |
| 01:55.31 | Kirkburn | I'm now over 3,500 edits myself :P |
| 01:57.32 | Gryphen | vandals boost that |
| 01:57.37 | Tem | zespri, no, I was really meaning, "can you buy me a new computer?" |
| 01:57.39 | zespri | why nobody saying that radeon 1900 xtx is piece of crap and I better buying somhitng else? =) |
| 01:57.55 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, that ... might ... be true :P |
| 01:58.02 | Kirkburn | Okay |
| 01:58.11 | Kirkburn | zespri, get a 7900GS |
| 01:58.21 | Kirkburn | It cheap and blows everything else out of the water |
| 01:58.25 | Kirkburn | *it's |
| 01:58.32 | zespri | I was on tom's hardware site |
| 01:58.44 | zespri | and looks like 1900 beats 7900 on most tests |
| 01:59.00 | Kirkburn | Look here: http://blog.pcformat.co.uk/?entry=7900gs_benchmarks |
| 01:59.15 | Kirkburn | If you want to spend crazy money however, that's up to you :P |
| 01:59.31 | GeoDaMancer | Wheee. |
| 01:59.35 | zespri | even 7950 which is two 7900 slaped together, 1900 still seem to beat it quie often |
| 01:59.47 | zespri | crazy money? |
| 01:59.56 | zespri | 1900 doesn't cost more then 7900 |
| 01:59.59 | zespri | does it? |
| 02:00.02 | Kirkburn | I didn't mean that |
| 02:00.10 | Tain | I don't have any specific opinions of both cards, but be sure to look at other places than Tom's Hardware. |
| 02:00.17 | Tem | oh wait |
| 02:00.20 | Kirkburn | It's like buying an Intel Extreme Edition |
| 02:00.22 | Tem | zespri, don't buy ati |
| 02:00.24 | Tem | ever |
| 02:00.28 | zespri | Tain, why? do you think they charts are biased? |
| 02:00.30 | Tain | He's been getting paid for reviews for years now. |
| 02:00.51 | zespri | well I prefer nvidea to ati but the charts ipmressed me |
| 02:01.16 | zespri | so i thought if there is such a lead maybe 1900 is better |
| 02:01.20 | Kirkburn | They're about equal tbh, it's just who does the better deals and who do you want |
| 02:01.24 | Tain | I've always had nvidia cards BUT the 9800Pro I had was one of the best, longest lasting cards I ever had. |
| 02:01.38 | Kirkburn | Tain, that's mutually exclusive |
| 02:01.51 | Kirkburn | And totally contradictory :P |
| 02:02.13 | Tem | I have owned 1 ati card |
| 02:02.18 | Tem | I will never own another |
| 02:02.36 | Iriel | Tem: Likewise |
| 02:02.50 | Iriel | Currently i'm on 2 x 7900GT |
| 02:02.51 | Kirkburn | I'm an nVidiot too :P |
| 02:02.57 | Tem | wow... I crash wow |
| 02:03.02 | Tem | and I didn't even log in this time |
| 02:03.03 | zespri | currently I run 6600GT. and i have 20-25 fps on 1280x1024 only if I turn the terrain distance to lowest. on highest it's 7-10 |
| 02:03.15 | Tem | I guess that would be a preemptive crash? |
| 02:03.30 | Iriel | I get 64 FPS (max wow will do on a dual core) at 1920 x 1200, all graphics options on full. |
| 02:03.40 | Kirkburn | My 6800 Go runs WoW quite well tbh |
| 02:04.06 | Tem | I'm sure ATI makes good stuff, but my experience with this card has just been too bard overlook |
| 02:04.12 | zespri | Iriel, actually this is interesting. 2x7900 is more expensive then 1x7950, but performance should be about the same |
| 02:04.16 | Kirkburn | In any case, just don't go for the most expensive one you can find! |
| 02:04.16 | Tain | I run a single 7900GT now. |
| 02:04.19 | Tem | I've wiped our entire raid on Nef more than once because of this card |
| 02:04.33 | Tem | and I get the runaround when I try to get it fixed |
| 02:04.33 | zespri | Iriel, why did you choose to have 2x7900? |
| 02:04.35 | Tain | And a 7900 GS GO in my laptop. |
| 02:04.44 | Tem | ATI: "We fixed that issue. Complain at blizzard" |
| 02:04.58 | Tem | Blizzard: "It's a driver issue, talk to ATI." |
| 02:05.07 | Tem | SOMEONE is to blame |
| 02:05.21 | Kirkburn | You! :) |
| 02:05.45 | Tem | clearly... |
| 02:05.55 | zespri | yeah, WoW works with Nvidia better - no doubdt |
| 02:06.27 | Tain | Of course I also have a history of handing down my cards to my Linux system as I upgrade my Windows. |
| 02:06.28 | zespri | my friend with ATI has artifacts very often, and I've seen only one or two times in last 2 years with @o@ |
| 02:06.31 | zespri | WoW |
| 02:06.36 | Tain | And that means no ATI. |
| 02:06.36 | Tem | WTB: loadstring that can take string.dump-ed code |
| 02:06.58 | Iriel | zespri: Price was about even, and the reviews didn't imply that it was faster. |
| 02:07.28 | Tem | I REALLY want to make an addon loader to smartly load LoD addons |
| 02:07.46 | Tem | but the way I want to write it needs binary-capable loadstring |
| 02:08.09 | zespri | Iriel, well, maybe the prices has changed. Here where I am 7900 is about 540NZD and 7950 is about 950 i think |
| 02:08.17 | Kirkburn | nVidia's latest Lnux drivers are the 85 series |
| 02:08.19 | Iriel | Tem: you'll never get it |
| 02:08.24 | Tem | I know :( |
| 02:08.31 | Iriel | zespri: Quite likely, prices constantly drop |
| 02:08.32 | Kirkburn | Not far off the 90 series of Windows |
| 02:08.37 | Tem | selfish bastards wanting to obfuscate... |
| 02:09.02 | Tem | oh sweet |
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| 02:09.07 | Tem | wow crashed again... |
| 02:09.10 | Kirkburn | I'm off to bed! |
| 02:09.15 | zespri | Another question. In computer game what is more imortant processor speed or graphic card speed |
| 02:09.21 | Kirkburn | Both |
| 02:09.22 | Iriel | It depends very much on the game |
| 02:09.32 | Iriel | drive speed also can be important, along with memory |
| 02:09.33 | Kirkburn | In WoW, it's the amount of RAM :D |
| 02:09.35 | Iriel | and network speed |
| 02:09.40 | Iriel | Kirkburn : Up to a limit |
| 02:09.46 | Tem | really, I didn't think wow used that much mem |
| 02:09.48 | Kirkburn | Of 13 gigabytes ;) |
| 02:09.48 | Iriel | Kirkburn : Though under 1GB wow struggles |
| 02:10.00 | Kirkburn | Very much true |
| 02:10.03 | Tem | I've never seen it use more than 500 on my system |
| 02:10.06 | zespri | So say you are buying a brand new system with limited money. You can either by top-notch video and so-so cpu or the other way around. What would you do? |
| 02:10.12 | Iriel | Tem: What resolution do you run at? |
| 02:10.20 | Iriel | Tem: It's usually at about 700MB on mine, plus the O/S of course |
| 02:10.23 | Tem | 1200x800 |
| 02:10.31 | Kirkburn | zespri, for my sanity, the CPU |
| 02:10.48 | Kirkburn | That way I can do other stuff too |
| 02:10.51 | Iriel | And I have a reasonably low UI memory limit |
| 02:11.07 | Iriel | It's going to be easier to upgrade the video card later |
| 02:11.15 | Iriel | so go with the best mobo/cpu you can |
| 02:11.17 | zespri | with this new processor nomenclature it's very hard to compare processors now |
| 02:11.17 | Kirkburn | Also, for newer games, they utilise the CPU a lot more then previously |
| 02:11.27 | Iriel | within reason |
| 02:11.31 | Kirkburn | Go for an Intel Core 2 Duo |
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| 02:11.35 | Iriel | top of the line is usually disproportionately expensive |
| 02:11.53 | Kirkburn | They are seeeriously good choices |
| 02:11.53 | Wobin | for graphics |
| 02:12.32 | Wobin | One of these days, I tell myself I'm going to splurge and buy the top of the line everything for the "Pretty". |
| 02:12.33 | Kirkburn | Mmm, crossed conversations can be confusing :P |
| 02:12.51 | Tem | Iriel, what's your UI memory run at usually? |
| 02:12.55 | Wobin | Then I realise, the Pretty will get outdated in about five mijnutes after purchase. |
| 02:13.01 | Iriel | Wobin: I did that once, and regretted it for 2 years |
| 02:13.14 | zespri | I have old P4 3.2GHZ, I have no idea if say Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz is better or worse. sure it's more expensive |
| 02:13.17 | Kirkburn | If I could choose a reasonably priced PC - i'd choose a 7900GS, an Intek Core 2 Duo, 2gig Ram |
| 02:13.28 | Kirkburn | *Intel, obviously |
| 02:13.31 | Iriel | Tem: Usually about 60ish |
| 02:13.33 | Wobin | Now I buy for long term use =) |
| 02:13.47 | Wobin | As long as it runs all my stuff at a reasonable level, I'm happy |
| 02:13.48 | GeoDaMancer | Wow's only using about 400 megs on my computer. <.< |
| 02:13.53 | Kirkburn | zespri, it's much better |
| 02:13.58 | Tem | Iriel, that's pretty high. Do you run many database addons? |
| 02:14.09 | Kirkburn | In general double the GHz and add a bit |
| 02:14.18 | Tem | (mine rarely goes above 30 unless I'm playing around) |
| 02:14.22 | Iriel | Tem: It's high for 'standard' low for addon users 8-) |
| 02:14.30 | Kirkburn | So 2.13 becomes 4.3 plus some more |
| 02:14.33 | Wobin | *coughacecough* |
| 02:14.38 | Iriel | Oh, hang on, you asked about my usage |
| 02:14.40 | Iriel | that's my limit |
| 02:14.43 | Tem | ooh |
| 02:14.45 | Tem | ok |
| 02:14.46 | Iriel | usually usage is down around 30 |
| 02:14.50 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 02:14.53 | Iriel | but a bunch of my tests allocate a crapload of memory |
| 02:14.55 | Tem | alright, that sounds right |
| 02:14.56 | Wobin | That's more like it =) |
| 02:14.56 | Iriel | so they need some space |
| 02:14.59 | Tem | ya, mine too |
| 02:15.09 | Kirkburn | Anyways, I'm realy off to bed now |
| 02:15.12 | Kirkburn | G'night all! |
| 02:15.14 | Tem | night Kirkburn |
| 02:15.18 | zespri | night |
| 02:21.54 | Iriel | Tem: UI memory usage on my main login - 18.2MB |
| 02:22.05 | Tem | mmmm low numbers |
| 02:22.35 | Iriel | I dont use any auction mods, I do use gatherer, and bookworm, and killcounter, and petinfo, and targetcensus tho |
| 02:22.36 | Tem | oh, the tangent I was about to go off on earlier was that I think my login time could be greatly decreased by more of my addons being LoD |
| 02:23.19 | Tem | and really, there's no barrier at all from every addon being LoD |
| 02:23.21 | Iriel | Have you looked at stubby, to solve your LoD issue? |
| 02:23.42 | Tem | I haven't |
| 02:23.53 | Iriel | It's very nicely done |
| 02:24.27 | Tem | I'm seriously tempted to write a loader (or use stubby if it will do what I want) and make all the addons I use LoD |
| 02:24.40 | Tem | have them load up later |
| 02:25.17 | Iriel | stubby loads them all the first time it sees them, then they register themselves with it and supply any stub code, adn then in future they're only loaded when their stub code triggers them |
| 02:25.35 | Tem | that's more or less what I was planning for my loader |
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| 02:26.05 | Tem | the only thing I've been trying to figure out is how to allow the addons to still be standalone |
| 02:26.08 | Iriel | It embodies lots of the great ideas from the big LoD discussions when LoD was made available, and made a nice little package of it |
| 02:26.18 | Iriel | That you can't have, you need *A* dependency |
| 02:26.36 | Iriel | stubby is at least very neutral, it does what it does and that's all |
| 02:29.02 | Tem | I was thinking of having the stub loader as an optional dep |
| 02:29.15 | Tem | and allowing users to auto-load the addon somehow |
| 02:29.17 | Iriel | that's certainly one approach |
| 02:29.30 | Iriel | Or support multiple stub loaders as optional deps |
| 02:29.36 | Iriel | use whichever is installed |
| 02:29.38 | Tem | hmm, that might work too |
| 02:30.35 | Tem | I'd really like it if addons could programatically change their toc fields |
| 02:30.41 | Tem | that would be hot |
| 02:31.07 | Tem | then they could all start out as normal addons that change themselves to LoD in the presence of a loader |
| 02:31.31 | Tem | potentially confusing for a user if they disable/uninstall the loader though |
| 02:31.33 | Tem | hmm |
| 02:31.53 | Tem | Where can I find stubby? |
| 02:32.29 | Iriel | At that point we may as well design a generic stub loading mechanism and convicne slouken to include it in the base UI, it'll be easier to implement than re-writable tocs |
| 02:32.57 | Cairenn | snag it as part of auctioneer download |
| 02:33.07 | Tem | ah, thanks Cair |
| 02:33.08 | Cairenn | not sure if they've got it anywhere stand alone |
| 02:33.14 | Cairenn | np |
| 02:33.14 | Tem | Iriel, yeah, that would be very nice |
| 02:33.27 | Tem | what's their webiste? |
| 02:33.35 | Tem | auctioneeraddons.com? |
| 02:33.42 | Cairenn | http://www.auctioneeraddon.com/ |
| 02:33.51 | Tem | ah, I'm one s too many |
| 02:33.56 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:34.17 | Tem | Iriel, what do you think our chances of getting a generic stub loader build into the UI are? |
| 02:34.26 | Tem | slim to none? |
| 02:34.54 | Iriel | Tem: Low, at the moment, but if we can get enough support behind one solution and make it work, then there's more chance, espeically if we can show it'll encourage more LoD addons. |
| 02:34.57 | zespri | why in alterac there is no more join as a group button???? |
| 02:35.23 | Tem | zespri, it's been that way a long time. though, I don't remember why it was chanced |
| 02:35.23 | Iriel | Tem: Perhaps whenever the expansion goes live, slouken doesn't seem to have much time for anything else at the moment. |
| 02:35.27 | Tem | s/chanced/changed/ |
| 02:35.39 | Tem | Iriel, understandable |
| 02:36.09 | Iriel | What features would you lot want out of an event monitor? |
| 02:36.12 | zespri | Tem, last time I tried it was there (which was no more then two mothes ago) |
| 02:36.22 | Iriel | I'm sure good ones exist but I have some bizarre desire to create one |
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| 02:36.26 | Tem | you're dreaming zespri |
| 02:36.33 | Tem | it hasn't been there for more than a year |
| 02:36.48 | Tem | (ok, not quite a year) |
| 02:36.49 | Iriel | I benchmarked a bunch of storage approaches and have what I think is a good one |
| 02:37.00 | Tem | event monitor? |
| 02:37.18 | Tem | one that shows when events fire? |
| 02:37.26 | Iriel | with time, sequence, args |
| 02:37.31 | Iriel | Probably puts OnUpdate markers in also |
| 02:37.58 | Iriel | intended for development/research, not necessarily something you'd leave running every day |
| 02:38.10 | Tem | btw, it would be real handy for dtchat event to show 'this' on the non "OnEvent" chat events |
| 02:38.43 | Iriel | Tem: Hm, interesting idea. |
| 02:38.51 | Iriel | Tem: Do you think it'd be useful often? |
| 02:38.58 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 02:39.03 | Tem | I'm an information junky |
| 02:39.11 | Tem | I hate seeing grey "#" |
| 02:39.19 | Tain | I'm not sure how often but there's definitely times it would be useful. |
| 02:39.57 | Iriel | I may re-do dtchatevent to use closures for storage |
| 02:40.49 | Iriel | They're faster than tables for this use |
| 02:41.46 | Tem | how does it do it now? |
| 02:42.12 | Tem | |Hdtchatevent:<someid>|h[#]|h? |
| 02:42.19 | Tem | table[id] |
| 02:42.20 | Iriel | a rolling buffer of tables |
| 02:42.29 | Iriel | and the tables are arrays, re-used when the buffer fills |
| 02:42.35 | Tem | k |
| 02:42.39 | Iriel | the id is modded to index the table |
| 02:42.50 | Iriel | with an ever-increasing sequence offset |
| 02:43.15 | Tem | ah, I hadn't thought of that |
| 02:43.21 | Tem | nifty way of doing it |
| 02:43.43 | Iriel | the only painful thing is resizing the buffer on the fly |
| 02:43.49 | Tem | ew |
| 02:43.51 | Iriel | (that's one of the slash commands) |
| 02:44.07 | Tem | I personally would have attached a metatable to the buffer |
| 02:44.12 | Tem | with a __newindex |
| 02:44.16 | Tem | that killed old stuff |
| 02:44.24 | Iriel | I wanted this to be as fast and lightweight as possible |
| 02:44.24 | Tem | and allowed the id to continue to increase |
| 02:44.53 | Iriel | though __newindex /shouldnt/ be all that ugly |
| 02:45.08 | Tem | no, but a modulo would still be faster |
| 02:45.11 | Iriel | but then i'd need __index too |
| 02:45.16 | Iriel | the rolling buffer has to remain an array |
| 02:45.23 | Iriel | or I pay a huge memory and speed cost |
| 02:45.27 | Tem | why have an __index at all? |
| 02:45.44 | Iriel | because otherwise I can't keep the ACTUAL storage an array |
| 02:45.51 | Iriel | without it |
| 02:45.57 | Tem | what do you mean by "array?" |
| 02:46.00 | Tem | 0-n? |
| 02:46.12 | Iriel | table with consecutive integer indices starting at 1 |
| 02:46.18 | Tem | ah |
| 02:46.20 | Iriel | i.e. the fast tables |
| 02:46.27 | Tem | the fast tables? |
| 02:46.43 | Iriel | yeah, accessing the 'integer' part of a table is faster than accessing the hash part |
| 02:46.45 | Tem | it takes longer to get at stuff with higher indecies? |
| 02:46.48 | Iriel | not to mention significantly less memory |
| 02:47.05 | Tem | what if I'm occupying slots 500-550 |
| 02:47.09 | Iriel | and no more? |
| 02:47.14 | Iriel | then you'll be a hash table |
| 02:47.21 | Iriel | with no array part |
| 02:47.22 | Tem | and thus bigger |
| 02:47.24 | Tem | and slower |
| 02:47.34 | Iriel | if you're occupying slots 1-50, and 500-550 then 1-50 will be an array, and 500-550 a hash |
| 02:47.37 | Iriel | yeah |
| 02:47.45 | Tem | ok, now I fully understand your reasoning |
| 02:47.46 | Iriel | it's something like 12 bytes per entry versus 80 bytes per entry |
| 02:47.56 | Iriel | (not including the actual thing being referenced) |
| 02:48.47 | Iriel | if you ever plan on storing lots of structured data with the same keys, array-ify it 8-) |
| 02:49.22 | Tem | indeed |
| 02:49.57 | Iriel | Anyway, i'm thinking of closures and upvalues for the new event monitor |
| 02:50.10 | Iriel | they take more memory than arrays (40 bytes per entry) |
| 02:50.15 | Iriel | but they're faster |
| 02:50.19 | Iriel | if done properly |
| 02:50.33 | Tem | does the speed matter that much? |
| 02:50.42 | Iriel | I fear it might once I RegisterAllEvents |
| 02:51.31 | Iriel | plus, for most of my use, it makes accessing the data easier |
| 02:51.48 | Iriel | dataClosure(true, event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4,...) |
| 02:51.49 | Iriel | then |
| 02:51.59 | Iriel | event,arg1,arg2,arg3,arg4,... = dataClosure() |
| 02:52.05 | Iriel | the .. being what I couldnt be bothered to type |
| 02:52.08 | Iriel | not the actual lua operator |
| 02:52.14 | Tem | right |
| 02:52.38 | Iriel | I can even do dataClosure(true) and have it grab the event data from the global environment |
| 02:52.38 | Tem | those would never expire |
| 02:52.44 | Iriel | that's slightly faster still |
| 02:52.53 | Iriel | well, i'd re-use the closures, in the circular buffer, just like I do arrays |
| 02:52.56 | Tem | yeah |
| 02:53.08 | Tem | how does one reuse a function? |
| 02:53.27 | Iriel | well, the closure has 2 modes of operation, update upvales, and return upvalues |
| 02:53.57 | Tem | my brain just warped |
| 02:54.01 | Tem | update upvales? |
| 02:54.05 | Tem | how is that even possible? |
| 02:54.11 | Iriel | i'll pastey it |
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| 03:01.02 | Tem | Iriel, ? |
| 03:04.08 | Tem | I'm damn curious now how you're doing that... |
| 03:05.47 | Iriel | Sorry, pizza arrived |
| 03:07.28 | Tem | well, don't bother |
| 03:07.35 | Tem | I just figured it out while I waited =P |
| 03:07.48 | Iriel | oh, I just finished submitting |
| 03:07.52 | Iriel | http://www.pastey.net/702 |
| 03:08.19 | Tem | aww, you beat me |
| 03:08.22 | Tem | I'm 703 |
| 03:09.02 | Iriel | nifty, yours allows the created one to be initialized too |
| 03:09.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | erm |
| 03:09.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's odd |
| 03:09.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | after i fixed the errors with Dcs on login now my fubar doesn't fill the whole screen @_@ |
| 03:09.51 | Tem | Mr_Rabies, just grab a corner |
| 03:10.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
| 03:10.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | nice |
| 03:10.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | didn't know that worked :D |
| 03:10.18 | Tem | Iriel, it felt natural to init at the same time as creation |
| 03:10.43 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, FuBar has a tendancy to be more intuitive than you expect |
| 03:10.57 | Tem | (ending up being less intuitive than it means to be ><) |
| 03:11.56 | Tem | Iriel, thanks for making me realize that was doable |
| 03:12.13 | Tem | I had no idea it was possible |
| 03:12.43 | Tem | closures just became a lot more useful than I previously though |
| 03:12.44 | Tem | t |
| 03:12.59 | Iriel | they're awesome |
| 03:13.06 | Iriel | you can create whole families of them sharing the same upvalues |
| 03:13.06 | Tem | so, that's faster than a table index? |
| 03:13.38 | Iriel | for 10 arguments, it was, yes. |
| 03:13.38 | Tem | oh, now that's a really cool idea |
| 03:13.40 | Iriel | I dont know where the break even point is if there is one |
| 03:13.41 | Iriel | since I was benchmarking for a particular use |
| 03:13.44 | Tem | yeah |
| 03:14.03 | Iriel | Closures are around 36 bytes with 4 bytes per upvalue |
| 03:14.30 | Tem | including upvalues that are nil? |
| 03:14.34 | Iriel | and the upvalues themselves are 32 bytes each |
| 03:14.53 | Iriel | so for a single closure with 2 upvalues that's 44 bytes for closure, and 64 bytes for the upvalues |
| 03:15.22 | Iriel | For 2 closures sharing 2 upvalues it's 44 bytes for each closure, and 64 bytes for the upvalues |
| 03:15.32 | Iriel | Plus of course whatever memory is used bythe things the upvalues reference |
| 03:15.55 | Iriel | yes, the 4 bytes is the pointer to the upvalue holding space, and the 32 bytes IS the upvalue holding space |
| 03:16.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there like a list of more fubar nifties anywhere tem? |
| 03:16.48 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, none that I know of |
| 03:17.09 | Tem | I still want him to make plugin movement more intuitive |
| 03:17.28 | Tem | but I haven't figured out a good way to drop center-aligned plugins |
| 03:17.31 | Tem | so I'm holding back |
| 03:17.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah be nice if you drug one from left to right side it'd change it's alignment |
| 03:17.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | dragged |
| 03:18.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i live in the south give me a break |
| 03:21.51 | Iriel | Mikk: is it open source? |
| 03:22.00 | Mikk | aeuhm |
| 03:22.02 | Mikk | the source is included =) |
| 03:22.10 | Iriel | does it work on linux? |
| 03:22.26 | Mikk | it might. it's just a cmdline tool. |
| 03:22.32 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, I live in Baton Rouge |
| 03:22.49 | Cairenn | Mikk, don't be greedy, share linkage :p |
| 03:22.54 | Mikk | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3630-1-blpconverter.html |
| 03:23.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | georgia here, tem :o |
| 03:23.08 | Mikk | it can do entire directories at once |
| 03:23.13 | Mikk | and can preserve alpha channels just fine |
| 03:23.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just used a java one that converted from tga to blp and back |
| 03:23.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | worked pretty good |
| 03:23.37 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, please, please please tell me you aren't a 'dawgs' fan |
| 03:23.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i made catform neon green |
| 03:23.52 | Cairenn | I'm pretty sure that's the one I've been using for ages now |
| 03:23.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not big on football in general, Tem, so no :P |
| 03:24.04 | Mikk | mkay. |
| 03:24.09 | Mikk | why isn't it in the bloody faq? =) |
| 03:24.21 | Tem | Georga fans have been nothing but cockbags to us |
| 03:24.23 | Cairenn | so add it :p |
| 03:24.27 | Cairenn | you're a big boy |
| 03:24.41 | Tem | is the FAQ on a wiki now? |
| 03:24.53 | Cairenn | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_FAQ |
| 03:24.57 | Cairenn | has been for some time |
| 03:25.04 | Tem | oh nice! |
| 03:26.15 | gnorlish | iriel make it so your text in irc is lime green |
| 03:26.19 | gnorlish | to everyone! |
| 03:26.44 | Mikk | *roar* =) |
| 03:27.11 | gnorlish | ~roll Mikk |
| 03:27.12 | purl | ACTION stuffs Mikk in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
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| 03:42.23 | Abenadi | I can't figure out why my buttons aren't showing up |
| 03:42.26 | Abenadi | http://www.pastey.net/704 |
| 03:42.46 | Abenadi | If I inherit OptionsButtonTemplate, it shows up, but I don't want to inherit, I have my own textures. |
| 03:43.13 | Abenadi | Is there something wrong with how I define the NormalTexture etc? |
| 03:45.02 | Tem | Abenadi, yeah, they are their own tag |
| 03:45.37 | Abenadi | oh ok |
| 03:45.44 | Abenadi | i'll change that thanks |
| 03:45.56 | Tem | http://www.pastey.net/705 |
| 03:46.03 | Tem | I pulled out NormalTexture |
| 03:46.31 | Abenadi | I see |
| 04:19.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | lovely |
| 04:19.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | blizzard cleared our friend list |
| 04:20.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | after 36 hours of downtime |
| 04:20.12 | Tem | they warned you |
| 04:20.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | really? i didnt see anything about friends lists :x |
| 04:21.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | Due to the nature of these hardware upgrades, we’re unable to preserve the friends and ignore list for characters on these realms. We recommend that players take the necessary steps to back up this information, and apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. |
| 04:21.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | doh |
| 04:22.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh well |
| 04:22.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | guess i can try to remember them |
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| 04:27.38 | cogwheel | Important debate going on in guild chat right now... could use some input... |
| 04:27.44 | cogwheel | Ramen: Fork or spoon? |
| 04:27.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | fork. |
| 04:27.58 | Hexarobi | pork |
| 04:27.59 | Hexarobi | spork |
| 04:28.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | slides off a spoon too easily |
| 04:30.13 | Hexarobi | no you take the side of the spoon |
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| 04:30.19 | Hexarobi | and cut the noodles against the side of the bowl |
| 04:30.29 | Hexarobi | forming a bite-size lump in the spoon |
| 04:30.42 | Abenadi | OK, so... I don't know anything about TGA images, but the ones I made completely lock up WoW when I try to use them in an addon |
| 04:30.44 | Gryphen | fork |
| 04:30.53 | Hexarobi | make sure theyre sized by powers of 2 |
| 04:31.01 | Abenadi | oh? |
| 04:31.04 | Gryphen | drink the juice after noodles are gone |
| 04:31.07 | Hexarobi | like 32x32 or 64x128 or 512x256 |
| 04:31.18 | Abenadi | ok |
| 04:31.35 | Abenadi | that might explain it i guess |
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| 04:46.03 | cogwheel | also, no bigger than 512 on a side and must be 24 or 32 bit uncompressed |
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| 05:15.52 | Wobin | bah |
| 05:15.55 | Wobin | chopsticks |
| 05:15.59 | Wobin | Go hardcore =P |
| 05:18.00 | Corr[home] | discover the possibilities of today's ethan allen |
| 05:24.41 | Corr[home] | now running on a new monitor: a cheap, little thing i picked up for $108 just to get by on this computer until my other computer and monitor rejoin it at the end of the semester |
| 05:24.56 | Corr[home] | it's pretty tiny compared to my regular one, but at was only about $100 |
| 05:25.13 | Corr[home] | 16" viewable with a pretty good looking image for that is not bad at all |
| 05:26.26 | Corr[home] | unfortunately, my video card's fan is either dying or dead, so i don't know if i can run WoW without replacing the cooler first |
| 05:27.31 | Corr[home] | it's barely moving air, now... |
| 05:29.19 | gnorlish | it will lock your comp eventually |
| 05:29.35 | gnorlish | i was having problems last summer with my comp locking, and it ended up being a dead fan on the vid card |
| 05:29.40 | gnorlish | while playing wow |
| 05:31.36 | Corr[home] | yeah... still, not looking forward to trying to replace the cooler |
| 05:31.43 | Corr[home] | i have one here, but i don't really have my tools with me |
| 05:35.14 | Abenadi | How come on my button my PushedTexture only shows after I drag my mouse off the button? |
| 05:36.48 | Cairenn | without seeing your code, how would anyone be able to answer that? |
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| 05:37.51 | Abenadi | thought there might be a generic response |
| 05:38.00 | Abenadi | I don't know if anything would be relevant but <PushedTexture file="Interface\Addons\GraphicViolence\images\close_pushed" /> |
| 05:38.55 | Abenadi | It shows the normal texture, highlighttexture when I mouesover it, but when I hold down the mouse, it won't switch to the pushed texture until I move my mouse (still holding the button) off the button |
| 05:40.49 | Abenadi | http://wowi.pastey.net/707 if it makes a difference |
| 05:50.20 | Corr[home] | might as well get at it. that video card cooler isn't going to replace itself. |
| 05:51.34 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
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| 06:39.49 | Tem | Dear Gello, |
| 06:40.12 | Tem | Recap kicks ass even after 6 months of non-development |
| 06:40.22 | Tem | Much love, |
| 06:40.23 | Tem | Tem |
| 06:43.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehe |
| 06:43.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was giving me weird data so i gave up on it |
| 06:43.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | like warriors on the top of overhealing and stuff |
| 06:43.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | but when it worked for me it worked perfectly |
| 06:44.25 | Iriel|sleeping | G'night folks |
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| 06:52.32 | Corr[home] | hmm, this microsoft optical mouse has one glaring design flaw: the cord in the front is too low to the surface, causing it to drag on it |
| 06:52.45 | Corr[home] | being rubber, it does this in a very annoying fashion |
| 06:54.09 | Corr[home] | anyway, i've got the new cooler on, and the fan spins like butter (although it seems it may be spinning in the wrong direction -- i can't be sure -- it's not a huge deal because i think it should work fine either way). |
| 06:55.15 | Corr[home] | i figured out why the old one stopped spinning well: it was completely gummed up by dust mud. there was dust piled in every little crevice of the sink and it took a small effort to spin the fan with my fingers, so i doubt the motor had a fun time of it |
| 07:48.00 | ckknight | hey all |
| 07:48.01 | ckknight | back |
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| 08:28.15 | jaxdahl | world first atiesh |
| 08:28.16 | jaxdahl | http://imagesocket.com/view/atiesha08.jpg |
| 08:34.05 | Neronix | Nihilum? |
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| 09:12.02 | jaxdahl | Neronix, no, they already killed kelthuzad |
| 09:12.08 | jaxdahl | and didn't have the frame created |
| 09:12.13 | jaxdahl | that is Risen on Alleria |
| 09:12.17 | jaxdahl | first US KT kill |
| 09:13.41 | Neronix | I see |
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| 09:48.14 | jaxdahl | hm |
| 09:48.17 | jaxdahl | they don't have atiesh yet |
| 10:07.37 | jaxdahl | http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1189/wowscrnshot090906042706xr8.jpg |
| 10:07.54 | jaxdahl | oh man |
| 10:07.58 | jaxdahl | i wonder if you can resummon him? |
| 10:08.02 | jaxdahl | if he drops other good loot |
| 10:08.23 | jaxdahl | what type is he? demon? |
| 10:08.35 | jaxdahl | wrong channel |
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| 10:41.36 | jaxdahl | http://www.risen-guild.com/images/andonisus.jpg |
| 10:42.19 | jaxdahl | http://www.risen-guild.com/images/andonisus.jpg |
| 10:42.21 | jaxdahl | er |
| 10:42.22 | jaxdahl | heh |
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| 10:43.19 | nevcairiel | wtf is that oO |
| 10:43.32 | jaxdahl | conjured item |
| 10:43.39 | jaxdahl | so i guess it goes away eventually |
| 10:43.48 | nevcairiel | yeah when you leave stratholme |
| 10:43.51 | nevcairiel | but how do you get it? |
| 10:43.57 | jaxdahl | atiesh quest |
| 10:44.03 | jaxdahl | after you get the base and top and frame |
| 10:44.05 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 10:44.07 | jaxdahl | you talk to anachronos |
| 10:44.09 | jaxdahl | then go to stratholme |
| 10:44.14 | jaxdahl | and summon Atiesh, demon |
| 10:44.17 | jaxdahl | Hand of Sargeras |
| 10:44.55 | jaxdahl | with the +600 |
| 10:44.58 | jaxdahl | it's basically 140 dps |
| 10:47.05 | wereHamster | is that the priest quest? |
| 10:50.42 | jaxdahl | it is finished! |
| 10:50.43 | jaxdahl | http://imagesocket.com/view/failatiesh88d.jpg |
| 10:50.51 | jaxdahl | wereHamster, no, the atiesh legendary staff quest |
| 10:52.27 | wereHamster | naxx legendary staff? |
| 10:52.35 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 10:53.11 | wereHamster | don't you have to kill kel'thuzad ? |
| 10:53.23 | nevcairiel | you have to |
| 10:53.23 | wereHamster | to get the staff |
| 10:53.45 | wereHamster | did risen kill KT? |
| 10:53.52 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 10:54.03 | wereHamster | oh.. and DnT? |
| 10:54.06 | nevcairiel | not sure |
| 10:54.16 | wereHamster | so rised has second world kill? |
| 10:54.57 | nevcairiel | ya, dunno what was up with DnT |
| 10:56.04 | wereHamster | I guess they are pretty pissed now.. :-P |
| 10:56.33 | nevcairiel | prolly blaming blizz for the despawn bug |
| 10:56.44 | nevcairiel | (not that all other guilds had that bug as well) |
| 10:56.59 | wereHamster | they just need to kill hi mfirst try.. |
| 10:59.15 | |FF|Im2good4u | omg some1 survived naxx oO |
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| 11:02.04 | jaxdahl | risen has 2nd world yes |
| 11:02.07 | jaxdahl | and 1st us |
| 11:02.10 | jaxdahl | and 1st alliance |
| 11:02.15 | jaxdahl | DnT's server was down |
| 11:02.20 | jaxdahl | so they didn't get much practice |
| 11:02.30 | Industrial | line 2 how do I do that? http://pastey.net/710 |
| 11:02.41 | Industrial | nm |
| 11:03.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | oes any1 got the specs of that staff :p |
| 11:04.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | self.db[frame:GetName()] |
| 11:04.34 | jaxdahl | yes |
| 11:04.39 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh |
| 11:05.12 | nevcairiel | druid version is teh best |
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| 11:07.29 | Corr[home] | i just finished a game of AV that took several hours, for the first time i've had one of those |
| 11:08.52 | Corr[home] | it was quite exciting |
| 11:09.00 | Corr[home] | back and forth, eventually we won |
| 11:10.05 | Corr[home] | all to the sound of baroque classical music |
| 11:10.59 | Corr[home] | i'm on my old computer, so i had to turn all the settings down to their minimum level to keep it from exploding |
| 11:11.45 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm nice staff especial those aura's :p |
| 11:12.44 | Corr[home] | good god, what a staff |
| 11:13.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh |
| 11:13.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | the legendairy 1 |
| 11:13.35 | Corr[home] | i didn't say "what staff", i exclaimed, "what a staff!". :) |
| 11:13.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | i wonder if tbc will bring artifacts items :p |
| 11:13.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh orry |
| 11:14.08 | Kaso | http://imagesocket.com/view/andonisuscec.jpg > staff |
| 11:15.38 | Corr[home] | total hunter gear |
| 11:16.02 | Corr[home] | yet, in the midst of my chuckling, i notice the "conjured item" label. what's up with that? |
| 11:16.52 | Kaso | just an item to help you kill Atiesh |
| 11:16.59 | Kaso | also does damage to you while you have it equipped |
| 11:17.13 | Kaso | http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot090906063213op9.jpg |
| 11:17.25 | Kaso | Not sure how its formed however |
| 11:18.02 | wereHamster | do all party members get this sword? |
| 11:18.26 | wereHamster | or why does the rogue have it? |
| 11:18.47 | Kaso | The person supplying the info is being tight - lipped at the moment |
| 11:22.52 | wereHamster | there should be plenty of players who have all 40 splitters and can do the quest.. |
| 11:23.46 | wereHamster | s/splitter/splinter/ |
| 11:23.46 | jaxdahl | wereHamster, no |
| 11:23.47 | jaxdahl | only 1 guild has gotten the head |
| 11:24.23 | wereHamster | and you need the head to do the stratholme quest? |
| 11:24.28 | jaxdahl | yes |
| 11:25.06 | wereHamster | ah.. I thought it's part of the Anachronos quest |
| 11:29.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talisman_of_Binding_Shard <- omg lucky guy |
| 11:41.20 | nevcairiel | ya, sucks that they removed it again |
| 11:41.42 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Andonisus%2C_Reaper_of_Souls |
| 11:41.52 | jaxdahl | added a new page |
| 11:41.56 | jaxdahl | missing the duration |
| 11:41.59 | jaxdahl | and item level |
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| 11:42.24 | jaxdahl | i also have the wrong inventory icon |
| 11:42.38 | Kaso | ill ask for duration |
| 11:43.37 | jaxdahl | Kaso |
| 11:43.38 | jaxdahl | i asked fail |
| 11:43.46 | jaxdahl | but he doesn't know |
| 11:43.55 | Kaso | well that sucks! |
| 11:43.57 | jaxdahl | any idea how to find the right icon? |
| 11:44.03 | jaxdahl | <Fail> i didnt loot it, so not sure ;p |
| 11:44.16 | Kaso | troll though the interface art? |
| 11:44.25 | Kaso | or |
| 11:44.31 | Kaso | are you on there server? |
| 11:45.35 | jaxdahl | ? |
| 11:45.43 | jaxdahl | no i am not on their server |
| 11:45.48 | jaxdahl | but i could roll one there |
| 11:46.06 | jaxdahl | actually yes |
| 11:46.08 | jaxdahl | i am on theri server |
| 11:46.19 | jaxdahl | ok, what do i do? |
| 11:46.25 | Kaso | if you can get the itemlink |
| 11:46.34 | jaxdahl | i have itemsync |
| 11:46.38 | jaxdahl | but not sure how to find the item id |
| 11:47.31 | Kaso | its in your itemsync? |
| 11:48.30 | Kaso | do /run local _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, icon = GetItemInfo(link); ChatFrame1:AddMessage(icon) |
| 11:49.10 | jaxdahl | not in my itemsync yet |
| 11:49.12 | jaxdahl | asking someone |
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| 11:50.54 | Kaso | GetItemInfo has too many returns :< |
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| 11:51.19 | Amro | better than not enough |
| 11:56.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | lol yeh i prefer to use icon = Silvanas.Select(9,GetItemInfo(link)) |
| 11:56.10 | jaxdahl | got a link for atiesh |
| 11:56.13 | jaxdahl | but not andonisus yet |
| 11:56.16 | jaxdahl | got it |
| 11:57.04 | jaxdahl | 'unexpected symbol near '|' |
| 11:57.11 | jaxdahl | /run local _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, icon = GetItemInfo([Andonisus, Reaper of Souls]) ; ChatFrame1:AddMessage(icon) |
| 11:57.31 | Kaso | oh you need to strip the itemlink down to just item:000000 |
| 11:58.54 | Kaso | do like, _,_,Nlink= string.find("[link]","(item:%d+)") the add that into the function |
| 11:59.20 | jaxdahl | your'e confusing me |
| 11:59.39 | Kaso | hold on a moment ill write out a full macro for you |
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| 12:00.59 | Kaso | ./run local _,_,Nlink= string.find("[Benediction]","(item:%d+)") local _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, icon = GetItemInfo(Nlink); ChatFrame1:AddMessage(icon) |
| 12:01.18 | Kaso | Obveously with the correct item link pasted into where [benediction] is |
| 12:02.14 | jaxdahl | ok |
| 12:02.20 | jaxdahl | what am i supposed to see now? |
| 12:02.32 | jaxdahl | ok |
| 12:02.33 | jaxdahl | it's 61 |
| 12:02.55 | Kaso | Interface\icons\SOME_Text_here |
| 12:03.01 | Kaso | whats 61? |
| 12:03.22 | jaxdahl | so it doesn't exist |
| 12:03.36 | Kaso | Im confused |
| 12:03.42 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=INV_Sword_61.jpg |
| 12:04.01 | jaxdahl | Interface\Icons\INV_Sword_61 |
| 12:04.22 | Kaso | download it from : http://i60.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/INV_Sword_61.jpg and upload it to wiki |
| 12:06.09 | jaxdahl | there we go |
| 12:06.09 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Andonisus%2C_Reaper_of_Souls |
| 12:06.12 | jaxdahl | thanks for the help kaso |
| 12:06.58 | jaxdahl | ok, i want to add a page referring to Atiesh, the demon |
| 12:06.58 | Kaso | No problem |
| 12:07.03 | jaxdahl | should it be Atiesh_(demon) |
| 12:07.07 | jaxdahl | or something |
| 12:07.12 | jaxdahl | Atiesh_(mob) |
| 12:07.16 | Neronix | it drops off Atiesh? |
| 12:07.20 | jaxdahl | yes |
| 12:07.24 | Neronix | Isn't the sword supposed to help you kill him? |
| 12:07.27 | jaxdahl | no |
| 12:07.31 | jaxdahl | heh |
| 12:07.36 | Neronix | then what do you actually do with it? O.o |
| 12:07.39 | jaxdahl | i don't know! |
| 12:07.43 | Kaso | kill strat trash! |
| 12:07.43 | jaxdahl | kill baron? |
| 12:07.44 | jaxdahl | haha |
| 12:07.46 | jaxdahl | yeah |
| 12:07.51 | jaxdahl | whoop some ass |
| 12:07.57 | Neronix | Er, k |
| 12:08.10 | Neronix | What a waste of an item then |
| 12:08.50 | jaxdahl | anyway |
| 12:09.00 | jaxdahl | what would the proper disambiguation page link be? |
| 12:09.14 | jaxdahl | to refer to Atiesh, Hand of Sargeras? |
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| 12:10.04 | Kaso | Might just best to do that |
| 12:10.09 | Kaso | Atiesh, Hand of Sargeras i mean |
| 12:10.25 | jaxdahl | hm yea |
| 12:10.39 | Kaso | kirkburn you here? |
| 12:15.26 | jaxdahl | started a stub |
| 12:15.27 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh%2C_Hand_of_Sargeras |
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| 12:21.57 | Kirkburn | Hullo! |
| 12:22.15 | Amro | hi |
| 12:22.25 | Kirkburn | Kaso, you rang? :) |
| 12:22.45 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/Archimonde is acting strange |
| 12:23.18 | Kirkburn | Oh yes |
| 12:23.57 | Kaso | i would fix it myself but tables scare me |
| 12:24.25 | Kirkburn | That table is messed up, I'll sort it now |
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| 12:26.09 | jaxdahl | Kirkburn, thanks for fixing the thumbnail |
| 12:26.22 | jaxdahl | very exciting new info |
| 12:26.31 | jaxdahl | any idea how to figure out the item level? |
| 12:26.43 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Andonisus,_Reaper_of_Souls |
| 12:26.44 | Kaso | youve gotta get that from game data files iirc |
| 12:27.09 | Kirkburn1 | Giant pictures aren't always a good idea :P |
| 12:27.28 | jaxdahl | need to add a disambiguation here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh |
| 12:27.35 | jaxdahl | in case people want to look for the NPC |
| 12:27.42 | Kirkburn1 | k |
| 12:27.44 | jaxdahl | how would i do that? |
| 12:28.35 | Kirkburn1 | I'll start it off |
| 12:28.44 | jaxdahl | ok |
| 12:28.54 | Kirkburn1 | Archimonde is fixed |
| 12:29.01 | jaxdahl | i think most people looking for Atiesh would be looking for the staff |
| 12:29.18 | jaxdahl | so the staff should be the default for that page, then an optional link to Atiesh, Hand of Sargeras |
| 12:30.43 | Kirkburn1 | Fill in the rest :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh |
| 12:30.48 | jaxdahl | for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield |
| 12:30.56 | jaxdahl | the default is garfield, the cartoon cat |
| 12:31.03 | jaxdahl | and there's 'for other uses' link |
| 12:31.14 | jaxdahl | actually the default is the comic strip |
| 12:31.19 | Kirkburn1 | I think it's easier this way :P |
| 12:33.09 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh |
| 12:33.26 | Kirkburn1 | Cool :) |
| 12:34.03 | jaxdahl | would thumnails help? |
| 12:34.13 | jaxdahl | thumbnail of staff. thumbnail of the demon |
| 12:34.15 | Kirkburn1 | Nah, just the text si enough |
| 12:34.17 | Kirkburn1 | *is |
| 12:34.32 | jaxdahl | visual image connects faster in the head |
| 12:35.01 | Kirkburn1 | True, but it can look rather cluttered |
| 12:38.08 | Kirkburn | The latest wiki version does seem a little unstable if there are mistakes on the pages - might be an updated !DOCTYPE I suppose |
| 12:38.30 | Kirkburn | See also http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Editing for example |
| 12:55.34 | jaxdahl | 074916 <Kaso> jaxdahl |
| 12:55.34 | jaxdahl | 074924 <jaxdahl> what |
| 12:55.35 | jaxdahl | 075126 <jaxdahl> if you're trying to say something, it isn't coming through |
| 12:55.43 | Kaso | damn |
| 12:55.57 | Kirkburn | Forget to register? :P |
| 12:56.06 | Kaso | nah im regged |
| 12:56.07 | jaxdahl | ahh |
| 12:56.12 | jaxdahl | Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) |
| 12:56.15 | Kaso | oh he isnt :> |
| 12:56.19 | Kaso | well anyway |
| 12:56.20 | Kaso | send me your itemcache.wdb pretty please :> |
| 12:57.29 | jaxdahl | uploading |
| 12:57.33 | Kaso | <3 |
| 12:57.48 | Kaso | ill grab the itemlevel from it |
| 12:58.05 | jaxdahl | i have 2 accounts so i'm not sure if it got in it |
| 12:58.14 | jaxdahl | wow\WDB\itemcache.wdb right? |
| 12:58.22 | Kaso | yes |
| 12:58.27 | jaxdahl | do i need to exit the game first/ |
| 12:58.36 | Kaso | umm, maybe |
| 12:58.46 | Kaso | im pretty sure its gobal across accounts though so that shouldnt be a problem |
| 12:59.13 | jaxdahl | hang on |
| 12:59.42 | Kaso | thank you very much |
| 13:00.30 | jaxdahl | yeah had to exit |
| 13:00.32 | jaxdahl | for it to update |
| 13:00.47 | jaxdahl | is rar ok? |
| 13:00.51 | jaxdahl | 10:1 compression |
| 13:01.01 | Kaso | yup thats good |
| 13:01.15 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/itemcache.rar |
| 13:01.25 | jaxdahl | tell me when you get it |
| 13:01.58 | Kaso | done |
| 13:02.33 | jaxdahl | item ID is 22736 |
| 13:02.35 | jaxdahl | if that helps |
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| 13:13.14 | Kirkburn | I bet Death and Taxes are pretty pissed right now |
| 13:14.06 | jaxdahl | lol yea |
| 13:14.12 | jaxdahl | bad timing for server maintenance |
| 13:14.34 | Kirkburn | yeah |
| 13:15.04 | Kirkburn | Still getting idiots on the wiki attempting to claim D&T killed KT first :/ |
| 13:24.11 | jaxdahl | done flooding the recent changes page |
| 13:24.19 | Kirkburn | hh |
| 13:24.21 | Kirkburn | *heh |
| 13:24.35 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Instance:Stratholme is more complete now |
| 13:24.36 | jaxdahl | heh |
| 13:25.58 | jaxdahl | categories don't show up when you preview |
| 13:26.01 | jaxdahl | so it's hard to know if you did it right |
| 13:28.50 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/Andonisus%2C_Reaper_of_Souls <-- item level :> |
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| 13:29.09 | Hatsuki | jaxdahl: eh? dnt dont have maintenance do they? |
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| 13:30.00 | Hatsuki | afaik they got same bug as week before, kt despawned |
| 13:30.16 | Hatsuki | that's one reason why nihilum went all out and took him on first try |
| 13:40.40 | Kaso | Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian = itemlevel 90 |
| 13:40.40 | Kaso | Andonisus, Reaper of Souls = itemlevel 100 |
| 13:40.46 | Kaso | holy item levels batman! |
| 13:45.38 | Neronix | If you guys need info on the Kel'Thuzad battle, have a peek in BigWigs' Kel'Thuzad code |
| 13:45.56 | Neronix | it was developed with help from Nihilum while they were doing the encounter |
| 13:46.26 | Neronix | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua |
| 13:47.04 | wereHamster | hm.. KELTHUZADCHAMBERLOCALIZEDLOLHAX |
| 13:48.43 | Hatsuki | http://www.ivoryheart.com/files/heigana.jpg |
| 13:49.18 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 13:54.10 | Kaso | still annoys me it's "Kel'Thuzad Chamber" |
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| 13:56.15 | Kaso | 's blizzard, 's! |
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| 14:52.33 | Warla | howdy |
| 14:53.01 | Warla | any pro's here that could answer me some "easy" questions? ;-) |
| 14:53.54 | Amro | go ahead and ask |
| 14:54.27 | Warla | http://www.wowledgebase.com/?id=1 |
| 14:54.35 | Warla | tradeskills which i export from wow |
| 14:54.52 | Warla | is there a possibility to find out ALL existing tradeskill items that exist? |
| 14:55.04 | Warla | so i can show what patterns/formulas/plans someones missing? |
| 14:56.46 | Amro | you'd have to have a database of some sort. you can't get all tradeskills ingame |
| 14:57.05 | Warla | ann snap |
| 14:57.11 | Warla | thats what i was afraid of |
| 14:57.13 | Warla | :-/ |
| 14:57.30 | Warla | so i basically need to parse allakhazam or thottbot for all existing ones |
| 14:57.33 | Amro | yeah that sucks. but |
| 14:57.35 | Amro | yeah |
| 14:57.35 | Warla | and then use those as reference |
| 14:58.02 | Warla | sigh |
| 14:58.20 | Amro | sounds like a nice addon though |
| 14:58.27 | Warla | yea |
| 14:58.31 | Amro | just make sure you mention whether its from a trainer or vendor or drop |
| 14:58.39 | Neronix | You might wanna optimise your bandwidth usage sometime btw |
| 14:58.40 | Warla | nah i wont do that |
| 14:58.46 | Warla | i just make link to allakhazam |
| 14:58.47 | Neronix | 800kb :X |
| 14:58.55 | Warla | so they can click it themself to check where to get it ^^ |
| 15:00.33 | Warla | i think this week i'll have my mod updated so it extracts hunter/warlock pet info |
| 15:00.40 | Warla | and then comes the worst thing.... |
| 15:00.59 | Warla | making my mod more "user-friendly" aka retard-proof |
| 15:01.19 | Warla | and judging by the players on my realm.. the majority seems to be retards :-/ |
| 15:02.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Hatsuki> http://www.ivoryheart.com/files/heigana.jpg |
| 15:02.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | nub tried to afk out |
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| 15:04.48 | Amro | lol warla |
| 15:05.12 | Amro | but in the case of a vendor/trainer recipe you should mention it. you cant list all mobs that drop it but you can list vendors/trainers |
| 15:05.36 | Warla | true |
| 15:05.46 | Warla | i thought about this: |
| 15:05.53 | Warla | sec... need to upload newest files.. |
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| 15:10.19 | Warla | ok uploaded |
| 15:10.20 | Warla | http://www.wowledgebase.com/?id=1 |
| 15:10.23 | Warla | go to tradeskill |
| 15:10.32 | Warla | you can scroll down to the bottom of each profession |
| 15:10.43 | Warla | and you have a new menu there |
| 15:10.46 | Warla | called "Missing" |
| 15:11.29 | Warla | my idea was making entries there with the missing patterns that are in "RED" color... and in case you have em all it said "you have em all" in green text like it shows now on all of em |
| 15:15.31 | Amro | nah it would be better if the missing thing was in a different area entirely |
| 15:15.41 | Amro | you dont want it cluttering the tradeskill window |
| 15:16.11 | Amro | make it so that you can show only recipes you can learn or only those too high etc |
| 15:17.06 | Warla | ? |
| 15:17.17 | Warla | i think i didnt understood that |
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| 15:19.03 | Warla | the thing that pisses me off about the missing recipes is that i want to share the php/sql scripts and the mod once its finished |
| 15:19.09 | Warla | so i need to think of a way |
| 15:19.26 | Warla | where all the webpages update their "missing pattern" file once it changes |
| 15:19.31 | Warla | i thought about this: |
| 15:19.57 | Warla | having a fix URL that contains an XML file with the info of ALL existing recipes/patterns e.t.c |
| 15:20.11 | Warla | if the website notices theres a newer version of the XML file |
| 15:20.29 | Warla | it downloads it from that URL and replaces the XML file on their webspace |
| 15:20.43 | Warla | so lets say tomorrow blizz adds a new engineering schematic |
| 15:21.02 | Warla | i'll add that one to the XML file and push the version number 1 up |
| 15:21.21 | Warla | so all the websites that use my script check that file and see its newer and they download it and replace the old one |
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| 15:23.39 | Amro | are you making just a website script or an ingame addon as well? |
| 15:23.48 | Warla | both |
| 15:24.03 | Warla | the addon is almost finished.. it basically gathers all the info of the char |
| 15:24.35 | Warla | heres a screenie of the mod so far; |
| 15:24.43 | Warla | http://www.wowledgebase.com/mod_screenshot.jpg |
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| 15:27.13 | Warla | what i need to do on the mod is making some preferenced dialog where the user can choose what infos he'd like to display.. some might now wanna show bank bags or their cash |
| 15:27.15 | Warla | e.t.c |
| 15:27.34 | Warla | i also need a edit field where they can enter an URL of the screenshot of their char |
| 15:27.58 | Warla | that screenshot will be displayed on the profile.. you propably saw the red arrow where you can display / hide the screenshot |
| 15:32.51 | Amro | what i meant earlier for the missing thing is that it would be a clutter if you added it as a tradeskill category |
| 15:32.57 | Amro | maybe a seperate tab or something |
| 15:33.21 | Warla | hmm ya |
| 15:33.27 | Warla | where the empty space is |
| 15:33.32 | Warla | there i could add 2 tabs |
| 15:33.37 | Warla | tradeskill and missing |
| 15:33.56 | Warla | yea sounds more clean than just dump it into the existing tradeskill window |
| 15:40.14 | Amro | also give the option to show only learnable/learnable soon recipes |
| 15:40.32 | Amro | so a level 50 engi doesnt see a million schematics |
| 15:40.42 | Warla | heh |
| 15:41.14 | Warla | i also need to filter the "type" of the profession |
| 15:41.16 | Warla | e.g |
| 15:41.26 | Warla | goblin engineer dont see the gnomish crap |
| 15:41.42 | Warla | and vice cersa |
| 15:41.45 | Warla | versa |
| 15:45.14 | Warla | heya Cairenn |
| 15:45.57 | Cairenn | hi |
| 15:46.08 | zenzelezz | so someone's completed an Atiesh... guess it was only a matter of time with Kel'Thuzad down |
| 15:46.08 | Warla | heh ya |
| 15:46.11 | Kaso | seen the imbasword ? |
| 15:46.20 | zenzelezz | the one the demon used? |
| 15:46.25 | Kaso | yah |
| 15:46.29 | Warla | heh |
| 15:46.29 | zenzelezz | hehe, yeah |
| 15:46.35 | zenzelezz | wouldn't mind dual-wielding that myself |
| 15:46.41 | Cide | I can honestly say I beat their group in WSG multiple times :) |
| 15:46.53 | Warla | same here... finally a 1-hander that warlocks can use |
| 15:46.59 | zenzelezz | being good in PvE doesn't mean being good in PvP =D |
| 15:47.08 | Cide | I know :) we're not a pvp guild though |
| 15:47.32 | zenzelezz | what I'm curious about is how the demon can dual-wield a main-hand weapon |
| 15:47.33 | Cide | this was before cross server BG's |
| 15:47.37 | Warla | usually people with legendaries do pve almost exclusively |
| 15:47.39 | Cide | hax! |
| 15:48.04 | zenzelezz | friend of mine started doing BGs more often when he got his Thunderfury |
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| 15:48.15 | zenzelezz | he enjoys using it on ignorant people =D |
| 15:48.15 | Cide | well it was pve guild vs pve guild, and we steamrolled them! |
| 15:48.18 | Warla | thinderfury hits like a girl in pvp |
| 15:48.28 | zenzelezz | good job Cide :) |
| 15:48.50 | Warla | usually warriors are better off with rag hammer than thunderfury |
| 15:48.53 | Warla | for pvp |
| 15:49.26 | zenzelezz | I don't know much of PvP, but most warriors in my guild wouldn't be caught dead with a Hand of Ragnaros |
| 15:49.40 | zenzelezz | they all want Ashkandi, TUB, or something like that |
| 15:49.47 | Warla | jup |
| 15:49.50 | Warla | those are better for pvp |
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| 15:50.00 | Warla | thunderfury warrs i kill with losing like 10% hp |
| 15:50.19 | zenzelezz | what about TF rogues? |
| 15:50.28 | Warla | rogues are never a prob ^^ |
| 15:50.40 | Warla | Ashkandy or HWL-2hander warrs are hard |
| 15:50.57 | Warla | they can hit cloth hard |
| 15:51.56 | Warla | i especially hate the mortal strike warrs |
| 15:52.08 | Warla | they fuck my healthstone with it.. makes me have to wait till it wears off |
| 15:53.57 | zenzelezz | if I ever get myself some DPS gear, it'll be for two-handers... I find those more fun than dual-wielding |
| 15:54.36 | Warla | fury is propably more fun |
| 15:54.42 | Warla | it depends on the enemy |
| 15:54.59 | Warla | some are better off with 2-handers... and for some classes 2-h fury is better |
| 15:55.39 | Warla | dualwield fury are usually hated by rogues ^^ |
| 15:55.51 | Warla | when they grab their perditions and corehound tooths hehe |
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| 16:18.50 | Kilkbuln | So, I'm in ethnic mode atm it seems |
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| 16:41.28 | clad | Howdy! |
| 16:41.28 | Cairenn | clad! |
| 16:41.45 | Cairenn | how was your flight? how's the conference so far? |
| 16:43.06 | clad | yeah |
| 16:43.07 | clad | its been good |
| 16:43.10 | clad | just ywanted to stop in and say hi |
| 16:43.14 | Cairenn | :) |
| 16:43.23 | clad | about go to see canterbury cathedral again, as a tour this time :P |
| 16:43.32 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.45 | clad | <3 |
| 16:43.47 | clad | see you gusy soon |
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| 17:14.17 | Cairenn | god I love being a smart ass - random_noob_001: /y who can enchant. me: /1 those who have trained in enchanting |
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| 17:18.11 | Kirkburn1 | hehe |
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| 17:21.56 | Mikk | kilkbuln! |
| 17:22.39 | Kirkburn1 | I just smashed into a Kenwood sign and am listening to a song called 'Geek Love', but ... Herro. |
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| 19:35.31 | Kirkburn | Time fer some WC3:FT |
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| 20:09.48 | Guillotine | how do you change the status of a feature request in your author portal? |
| 20:10.09 | Guillotine | nm, I got it ^_^ |
| 20:10.16 | Shadowed | Defeat the dragon and rescue the princess |
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| 20:13.20 | Guillotine | lol... someone thinking WoWI is an emu server >< |
| 20:13.25 | Guillotine | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6137 |
| 20:14.40 | Shadowed | someone should point out to delvark it's "you're" not "your" |
| 20:14.59 | Shadowed | and also that random capitilization (making up words!) is bad |
| 20:16.53 | Guillotine | they kind of did that |
| 20:17.03 | Guillotine | well, they laughed at his grammar |
| 20:17.19 | Guillotine | I just don't want to critisize him since I agree with him ;) |
| 20:19.51 | Cairenn | dealt with |
| 20:20.06 | Shadowed | wait |
| 20:20.10 | Shadowed | WoWI is a legimate site? |
| 20:21.06 | Cairenn | wish I'd bothered to read the thread sooner |
| 20:21.16 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 20:21.24 | Shadowed | think i've managed to make this combat simulater thingy work |
| 20:21.37 | Cairenn | also wish people would actually report shit like that, rather than add to it |
| 20:21.51 | Shadowed | got to feed ego's somehow cair |
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| 20:22.26 | Cairenn | yeah, well, folks should know by now ... go feed your egos somewhere else, crap like that isn't allowed on my site(s) |
| 20:22.29 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:22.36 | Cairenn | hey ckknight |
| 20:22.47 | ckknight | egos? |
| 20:23.08 | Cairenn | meh, just some stupidity on the wowi forums |
| 20:23.12 | Shadowed | cair rules with an iron fisst! |
| 20:23.14 | Shadowed | fist*( |
| 20:23.17 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:23.36 | Cairenn | Shadowed: you're right, I do |
| 20:23.41 | Guillotine | wait, were you telling us to go feed our egos somewhere else? what did we do? :( |
| 20:24.26 | Cairenn | Shadowed: most don't mind though because a) it means there's somewhere to go that *isn't* a cesspool of stupidity and b) I may rule with an iron fist, but it's encased in a velvet glove. |
| 20:25.46 | zenzelezz | naughty |
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| 20:31.11 | Cairenn | or "silk over steel" |
| 20:31.27 | Cairenn | I've had both applied to me |
| 20:31.37 | Cairenn | (in reference to*) |
| 20:31.59 | Shadowed | never heard "silk over steel" |
| 20:36.43 | zenzelezz | I think what Cairenn is saying is she's a cyborg |
| 20:36.49 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:36.59 | Shadowed | that'd explain the sleeping patterns |
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| 20:51.35 | Shadowed | http://www.whataboutpp.com/upload/nurfed_flags.jpg fun with faking UI stuff! |
| 20:52.00 | Kirov | heh |
| 20:52.22 | Shadowed | then will have to spend weeks trying to explain to idiots how it's not possible! |
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| 21:42.42 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 21:42.48 | zenzelezz | heya |
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| 21:47.37 | Cairenn | hi Qzot |
| 21:55.27 | Cide | anayone a rogue in here? |
| 21:55.31 | Cide | anyone... |
| 21:55.39 | GeoDaMancer | Me! |
| 21:55.41 | kopple | <- |
| 21:56.07 | Cide | how much energy do you get back on a miss/dodge? |
| 21:56.20 | GeoDaMancer | You get energy from that? |
| 21:56.22 | kopple | we lose 8 for SS, 11 for BS |
| 21:56.27 | kopple | all of it for finishers |
| 21:56.29 | Cide | okay |
| 21:56.41 | Cide | was something else too |
| 21:56.57 | Cide | maybe not. thanks! |
| 21:57.07 | kopple | np |
| 21:57.37 | GeoDaMancer | Wow, that tells you how much I pay attention. I didn't know you got energy back when you miss with a special. -_- |
| 21:57.39 | Cide | you don't get energy back on parry, right? |
| 21:58.04 | GeoDaMancer | I have no idea. o.O |
| 21:58.33 | kopple | um, thinks it applies for any sort of failure to hit |
| 21:58.42 | kopple | it does for immune at least |
| 21:58.58 | Cide | alright, thanks |
| 21:59.44 | GeoDaMancer | Wow, I'll have to research this. |
| 22:06.47 | kopple | Cide: oops, 7 energy for SS |
| 22:06.51 | kopple | http://roguecrap.blogspot.com/2006/03/energy-regeneration-oddities.html |
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| 22:14.26 | Cide | kopple: are you raiding (as a rogue)? |
| 22:21.11 | kopple | yes |
| 22:21.43 | GeoDaMancer | Wha-heee. |
| 22:23.13 | Cide | kopple: can you give me the % chance for a raid boss to dodge/miss/parry your attacks, as a rogue? |
| 22:23.20 | Cide | as well as your crit rate vs a raid boss |
| 22:23.28 | Cide | (with backstab) |
| 22:24.08 | kopple | crit rate - about 60-65% with talents |
| 22:24.58 | kopple | base miss rate for specials is 8%, with talents and not-crappy gear 0% |
| 22:25.40 | kopple | parry and dodge I'm not 100% sure about, either 5.6% or 8%... we should be behind the boss though so no parries :) |
| 22:25.47 | GeoDaMancer | I feel so bad that I don't know any of this stuff. xD |
| 22:25.53 | kergoth | 60-65%? how much crit gear do you have? |
| 22:26.59 | kopple | well he said crit rate with backstabs, combat daggers easily hit 35% base crit |
| 22:27.20 | kergoth | ah right |
| 22:27.23 | kopple | and with imp backstab that's 65% :) |
| 22:27.26 | kergoth | imp bs is our friend |
| 22:27.30 | kopple | yes |
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| 22:27.42 | GeoDaMancer | imp backstab? |
| 22:28.03 | kergoth | i went to a hemo build, kinda nice being less potision dependent |
| 22:28.04 | kergoth | position |
| 22:28.25 | kergoth | GeoDaMancer: 3 points = 30% increased crit chance with bs |
| 22:28.43 | jaxdahl | Kaso, nice work getting the item levels |
| 22:28.58 | Kaso | why thanks |
| 22:28.59 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhh, I haven't really looked at the talents too closely. Most of mine are in place for soloing. |
| 22:29.06 | kopple | I'm combat fists personally, CotBD = sex |
| 22:29.06 | Kaso | level 100 is pretty crazy |
| 22:29.51 | GeoDaMancer | CotBD? |
| 22:30.14 | kopple | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19365 :p |
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| 22:32.09 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhhh. |
| 22:33.17 | GeoDaMancer | Sorry, I've never had an epic item for one of my characters. xD |
| 22:35.28 | jaxdahl | kaso, i added ilevel 90 to the priest atiesh |
| 22:35.39 | jaxdahl | the ilevels of the other 3 *might* be different |
| 22:35.57 | Kaso | i doubt it, but it would be best to err on the side of caution |
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| 22:36.32 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh%2C_Greatstaff_of_the_Guardian |
| 22:36.54 | Shadowed | So the priest staff was created? |
| 22:37.36 | Kaso | Yah, by risen |
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| 22:42.33 | GeoDaMancer | Yes! |
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| 23:04.04 | ckknight | what race do you recommend for a Shaman? |
| 23:04.34 | wereHamster | draenei |
| 23:05.05 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:05.07 | ckknight | in due time |
| 23:05.27 | ckknight | but I don't have a test account as it stands, so I gotta stick on Hordeside |
| 23:05.32 | Kirkburn | Riight, the new Mac adverts are just weird |
| 23:05.47 | Kirkburn | Looks like they've totally run out of things to say |
| 23:06.23 | Kirkburn | One says Macs don't get spyware. *cough*liars*cough*. |
| 23:06.57 | GeoDaMancer | Well, they don't get PC style spyware. xD |
| 23:07.15 | Kirkburn | Spyware: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj5bxw8c9gs&mode=related&search= |
| 23:07.31 | Kirkburn | Tripping over your power cord (oh yes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT4i7IU_S_s&NR |
| 23:07.50 | Kirkburn | PC battling his inner demons (huh?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndbf2DOnHuY&mode=related&search= |
| 23:08.52 | GeoDaMancer | I don't have a problem tripping over my powercord. I have a problem with dogs tripping over my powercord, and knocking my laptop down. -_- |
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| 23:09.21 | GeoDaMancer | And the inner demons thing is supposed to be about how PCs are supposed for be for business, while macs are more suited for arts, and design. xD |
| 23:09.34 | Kirkburn | As I said, completely running out of ideas :P |
| 23:10.03 | Kirkburn | I do think that 'we don't get spyware' could rather get them into trouble |
| 23:10.33 | GeoDaMancer | Well, they can't get spyware from a PC, is what I think it means. |
| 23:10.50 | Kirkburn | You mean, no one would bother coding spyware for a Mac :) |
| 23:11.24 | GeoDaMancer | That's the other part. xD |
| 23:11.27 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 23:11.34 | GeoDaMancer | Simply because there are so few macs, compared to PCs. |
| 23:11.56 | Kirkburn | But it's a false claim tbh, as they *can* get spyware, it's not like they're somehow protected from it |
| 23:12.12 | Kirkburn | It's like saying my house can't get burgled cause it's in the middle of the country |
| 23:12.24 | Shadowed | why must blizzard change how they round every different calc :( |
| 23:12.27 | Kirkburn | It's only because no-one can be bothered |
| 23:12.46 | ckknight | Kirkburn, they do have some better securities than PCs, but it's really not as much as it's made out to be |
| 23:12.47 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, what's up? |
| 23:12.50 | GeoDaMancer | Not quite. Mac's slightly stricter on how their ports are accessed/ |
| 23:12.55 | Shadowed | just annoyingness with how they round everything |
| 23:13.44 | Kirkburn | Okay, but they can still get it. If you install a prog with spyware on a Mac, it'll still be able to do the same stuff, surely |
| 23:13.55 | Shadowed | armors round to the third decimal, weapon range is floor for lowest, ceil for highest, |
| 23:14.38 | Kirkburn | I'm planning on installing Vista RC1 v soon |
| 23:14.55 | Kirkburn | Just need a key and a bit of time to clear some space on my desktop PC |
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| 23:15.36 | Kirkburn | (and MS are going to support RC1 with patches until the final release) |
| 23:16.21 | MentalPower | is RC1 public or just for MSDN subs? |
| 23:19.30 | Kirkburn | Public |
| 23:19.53 | Kirkburn | If you got Beta 2, you can use the same key for RC1 |
| 23:20.10 | MentalPower | awesome |
| 23:20.10 | Kirkburn | I didn't, but within a few days MS will be giving out more keys to all and sundry |
| 23:20.15 | Legorol | is RC1 downloadable already? |
| 23:20.18 | Kirkburn | Yes |
| 23:20.19 | MentalPower | I might try it again |
| 23:20.23 | Kirkburn | Shall get the link |
| 23:20.32 | Legorol | link? |
| 23:20.43 | Kirkburn | http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc1/en/download.htm |
| 23:21.08 | Shadowed | Abscure rounding question. Anyone know how they round damage when doing mitigation? |
| 23:21.15 | Shadowed | er reducing damage by mitigation* |
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| 23:29.17 | AnduinLothar | Kazzak, Nef, Rag, & Ony down in 6 hrs! |
| 23:30.15 | AnduinLothar | Nef was guild 1st |
| 23:30.56 | Kirkburn | Nicely done |
| 23:31.06 | AnduinLothar | zero pally loot :P |
| 23:31.17 | Kirkburn | Not so nicely done? :) |
| 23:34.30 | Legorol | what are the sizes for the downloads? |
| 23:34.38 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 23:34.42 | AnduinLothar | oh vista |
| 23:34.45 | Legorol | i'm wondering if i'll run into the stupid 4-gig filesize limit with my ISP for the 64-bit version |
| 23:36.04 | MentalPower | lemme check |
| 23:36.29 | MentalPower | 32-bit is 2.52GB |
| 23:37.04 | MentalPower | 64-bit is 3.59GB |
| 23:37.44 | MentalPower | and I'm clocking 350KB/s on the 32bit version's download speed |
| 23:40.03 | wereHamster | does vista support GPT - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table ? |
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| 23:48.23 | Kirkburn | MentalPower, speedy isn't it :) |
| 23:49.56 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm, how does one get a stack overflow when this:GetID() |
| 23:50.01 | GeoDaMancer | Is being called, I mean. |
| 23:54.25 | GeoDaMancer | <.< Is anyone even alive? |
| 23:56.39 | Miravlix | no |
| 23:56.47 | GeoDaMancer | Never mind anyway. |
| 23:56.53 | Miravlix | Next rez wave in 30 mins |
| 23:57.33 | GeoDaMancer | I forced myself into a an infinite loop. |
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