| 00:01.08 | norgs | ong |
| 00:01.16 | norgs | *pong |
| 00:01.18 | Warla | any LUA pros in here? ^^ |
| 00:01.24 | norgs | but i gotsta go |
| 00:01.27 | Cairenn | nope |
| 00:01.31 | Warla | heh |
| 00:01.37 | Warla | well my question is about pets |
| 00:01.41 | Cairenn | norgs, pong me when you get back |
| 00:01.41 | Warla | warlock and hunter pets |
| 00:01.43 | jaxdahl | if we were pros |
| 00:01.48 | jaxdahl | we'd write bug free code |
| 00:01.51 | jaxdahl | all the time |
| 00:02.03 | AnduinLothar | people who get paid dont do that |
| 00:02.10 | Iriel | Being a professional just means you get paid to do it 8-) |
| 00:02.12 | Warla | how'd you get the stats / infos about warlock hunter pets the best |
| 00:02.17 | norgs | i'll be going to work |
| 00:02.19 | Kirov | jaxdahl - No no, a pro just gets paid to blaim their bugs on others and get them to fix it for them. |
| 00:02.25 | Warla | is it neccessiry for the lock to summon them all |
| 00:02.27 | norgs | so it'll be about 1.5hrs |
| 00:02.44 | Warla | or is it possible to get infos about them even when not summoned? |
| 00:02.44 | Iriel | Warla : Yes |
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| 00:02.44 | Warla | snap |
| 00:02.46 | Cairenn | norgs: as I said ... |
| 00:02.49 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:02.54 | Kirov | Warla - if the pet doesn't exist (ie: it hasn't been summoned) the game has no knowledge of it. |
| 00:02.56 | norgs | ok :) |
| 00:02.58 | Warla | so when a lock wants his pet info stored he needs to waste 3 shards? :-/ |
| 00:03.02 | Iriel | There's no API's to get information on an unsummoned one. Hunters can get some info on stabled pets, but they need to be at a stable master |
| 00:03.07 | norgs | cyaz all |
| 00:03.16 | Iriel | Warla : Or do it near a FP and get your shards returned for the cost of a flight |
| 00:03.18 | Kirov | Warla - pretty much, yeah. |
| 00:03.23 | Warla | yea i found the stabled ones |
| 00:03.34 | Warla | so those only work when they have stable master open? |
| 00:03.47 | Iriel | Warla : last I checked, yes |
| 00:03.50 | Warla | damn |
| 00:03.52 | Warla | well |
| 00:04.01 | Warla | hunters seem to have it better thoigh |
| 00:04.07 | Warla | ohh about the stabled pets |
| 00:04.19 | Warla | i noticed the API functions seem limited$ |
| 00:04.29 | Iriel | Yes, they're limited to what's needed to display the stable UI |
| 00:04.32 | Warla | i cannt get stats like str agi int e.t.c from stabled pets right?= |
| 00:04.44 | Iriel | You'd have to flip pets (a zero cost activity) for the other info |
| 00:04.51 | Warla | i c |
| 00:04.58 | Warla | damn pets seem to be annoying to scan |
| 00:05.06 | Warla | for my profiler page :-( |
| 00:05.16 | AnduinLothar | yes, yes they are |
| 00:05.21 | Kirov | Warla - my suggestion is have you mod auto scan for pet information in the background. |
| 00:05.27 | Iriel | Scan other people's pets when you see them 8-) |
| 00:05.34 | Iriel | For warlocks that should be enough, right? |
| 00:05.48 | Warla | lol |
| 00:05.49 | Warla | well |
| 00:05.53 | Warla | the manes wouldnt match ' ' |
| 00:05.56 | Warla | names |
| 00:06.05 | Warla | and depending on the locks gear the stats are different |
| 00:06.15 | Iriel | Yeah, but you know about the gear |
| 00:06.19 | Iriel | the name issue is a real one though |
| 00:06.21 | Iriel | no way around that |
| 00:06.24 | Warla | ya |
| 00:06.32 | Warla | cannt avoid the 3 shards watsed |
| 00:06.58 | Kirov | Warla - I'm assuming people are just going to leave your mod on in the background, right? |
| 00:07.01 | Iriel | As I noted, you can use a flight path to get a shard for a pet |
| 00:07.16 | Iriel | but that's still a pain |
| 00:07.20 | Warla | kirov yea the mod suxx at the moment |
| 00:07.24 | Kirov | Warla - hehe |
| 00:07.35 | Warla | it basically "just" does what it needs... extract info |
| 00:07.44 | Warla | i started with an GUI for it |
| 00:07.48 | Warla | heres a screenshot: |
| 00:07.50 | Kirov | Warla - I'm assuming you have a button to press that does that? |
| 00:08.16 | Warla | http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/mod_screenshot.jpg |
| 00:08.22 | Warla | yes and no |
| 00:08.25 | Warla | theres 1 button you press |
| 00:08.35 | Warla | that gathers inventory bags and stats like rep skills talents |
| 00:08.39 | Warla | for mailbox |
| 00:08.44 | Warla | you need to go open it and close ut |
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| 00:08.50 | Warla | same for bank bags and stuff |
| 00:08.55 | Warla | needs to open bank and close it |
| 00:09.05 | Kirov | no button press, just auto-scan, correct? |
| 00:09.10 | Kirov | for bank / mail |
| 00:09.17 | Warla | no 1 button press needed for general stats |
| 00:09.18 | Kirov | and saves that info someplace |
| 00:09.25 | Kirkburn | Btw, this is of interest - mob encounters will be longer in future! http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/15403152.htm |
| 00:09.51 | Warla | i also like to implement a preferenced dialog |
| 00:10.01 | Warla | where people can limit what they wanna show |
| 00:10.06 | Warla | on the profiles page |
| 00:10.20 | Warla | http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/?id=1 <-- shows everything |
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| 00:10.46 | Warla | preferences dialog also should have a field where you can enter the URL to your screenshot of your toon |
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| 00:12.33 | Warla | heh but right now as i stated my Lua skills still suck... the mod is made basically by staring at wowwiki pages for hours |
| 00:12.53 | Cairenn | okay, one or another of you had somehow managed to get the expansion ui files? |
| 00:13.15 | Kirkburn | lol, Maldivia can get them :P |
| 00:13.22 | Kirkburn | I just asked him =) |
| 00:13.28 | Kirov | Warla - yeah, that's how many of us started |
| 00:13.36 | Maldivia | Cairenn: I have for build 5610, 5665 and 5666 :) |
| 00:13.55 | Cairenn | Maldivia: any chance you could send them to me, pretty please? |
| 00:14.00 | Maldivia | sure |
| 00:14.03 | Kirkburn | Btw, I can host them again if you want |
| 00:14.44 | Maldivia | Cairenn, want DCC, URL or mail ? |
| 00:14.56 | Cairenn | whatever works easiest for you |
| 00:15.43 | Cairenn | that's the mpq extracted, correct? |
| 00:15.57 | Maldivia | uusing the toolkit to extract |
| 00:16.13 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 00:16.29 | Kirkburn | Can I get a copy here too? =) |
| 00:16.46 | Kirkburn | Pwetty pwease :P |
| 00:17.05 | Kirkburn | Ooh, never tried IRC dls |
| 00:17.11 | cladhaire | Spirit of Redemption: When the priest dies, it looks like UntIsDead() UnitIsGhost() return nil. Anyone played with that at all? |
| 00:18.10 | zenzelezz | can't you still perform some actions while being spirit? |
| 00:18.12 | Kirov | cladhaire - you have to check for the buff |
| 00:18.12 | Kirkburn | Thanks Maldivia :) |
| 00:18.51 | Legorol | ts ts, distributing Alpha files, are you now.. |
| 00:18.53 | Legorol | naughty! |
| 00:18.53 | cladhaire | Kirov: I know that.. but i'm looking for something to tell me to check fo rthe buff, other than 100% mana 100% health. |
| 00:19.27 | Kirov | nothing at the time, other than the buff |
| 00:19.28 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.40 | Kirov | GetRaidRosterInfo() might show them dead |
| 00:19.43 | cladhaire | Thrae: It is |
| 00:20.10 | cladhaire | Thrae: I was trying to avoid scanning every time. |
| 00:20.17 | cladhaire | for hunters, you only scan for feign when they're dead |
| 00:20.33 | Warla | cladhaire what UI are you writing? :-) |
| 00:20.45 | cladhaire | Warla: adding SoR detection to PerfectRaid |
| 00:21.03 | Kirov | cladhaire - you _could_ check to see if they just died |
| 00:21.15 | Warla | hmm dont know perfect raid what does it do? |
| 00:21.22 | Kirov | Priests will show as dead for a moment, then 100% health / mana |
| 00:21.38 | Maldivia | and how would you know if someone just died? |
| 00:21.54 | Thrae | Kirov: Are you sure UNIT_DEAD is called? |
| 00:22.07 | Kirov | Thrae - for a moment, yes |
| 00:22.33 | Kirov | I'd say check to see if their health changes from 0 to 100% |
| 00:22.38 | Thrae | So UNIT_DEAD is called only once, or for both time the unit dies? |
| 00:22.39 | Maldivia | which UNIT_DEAD event ? |
| 00:22.44 | Maldivia | when was that implemented? |
| 00:22.48 | Kirkburn | Hosting the BC 2.0.0.5666 UI files :P http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/BCInterface-5666.zip |
| 00:22.48 | Kirov | UNIT_HEALTH |
| 00:23.11 | ckknight | thanks, Kirkburn |
| 00:23.26 | Thrae | Oops, I was thinking of PLAYER_DEAD, there is no UNIT_DEAD |
| 00:23.26 | ckknight | Kirkburn, do you know if lua 5.1 is already up and running? |
| 00:23.28 | Kirkburn | I want a downloadable version of Bela's compare engine :P |
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| 00:23.34 | Maldivia | ckknight: it's not |
| 00:23.45 | ckknight | okay, thanks |
| 00:23.45 | Thrae | Kirkburn: diff |
| 00:23.58 | Tem | I feel like a good citizen |
| 00:24.05 | Maldivia | ckknight: from UIParent.lua, build 5666: |
| 00:24.07 | Maldivia | function BuildListString(...) |
| 00:24.07 | Maldivia | if ( not arg[1] ) then |
| 00:24.11 | Tem | I just purchased software that I normally would have pirated |
| 00:24.19 | ckknight | Maldivia, okay. |
| 00:24.22 | Kirkburn | Thrae, was that a correction or a suggestion? |
| 00:24.36 | Maldivia | ckknight, or well, that tells me they are not using 5.1 :) |
| 00:24.38 | Tem | I guess when the price is right, I'm willing to pay |
| 00:24.54 | zenzelezz | which software is this? |
| 00:25.05 | ckknight | one step at a time, Tem |
| 00:25.11 | ckknight | one step at a time. |
| 00:25.12 | Tem | hehe |
| 00:25.17 | ckknight | we can get through this. Together. |
| 00:25.42 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: poke around abit, and you'll notice new API commands like: EquipItemByName, UseItemByName etc :) |
| 00:25.51 | ckknight | cool. |
| 00:25.54 | Tem | oh god clad |
| 00:26.07 | Kirkburn | Sounds cool |
| 00:26.23 | Tem | yay for spamorific Praid |
| 00:26.51 | Maldivia | And apparently, you can now save a target, and retarget it afterwards! |
| 00:26.53 | cladhaire | Tem: ? |
| 00:27.00 | Tem | Found nil |
| 00:27.01 | ckknight | Maldivia, hrm |
| 00:27.02 | Tem | Found nil |
| 00:27.04 | Tem | Found nil |
| 00:27.05 | cladhaire | learn2update |
| 00:27.08 | Tem | Found Poison |
| 00:27.12 | Tem | Found nil |
| 00:27.16 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 00:27.16 | zenzelezz | thanks for that demonstration |
| 00:27.17 | Kirkburn | Ban the spammer! =) |
| 00:27.39 | Maldivia | ckknight: new function SetFocus(unit), and a new unit id: "focus" |
| 00:27.56 | ckknight | very neat. |
| 00:27.59 | Maldivia | or it might be an assist option for raids |
| 00:28.01 | Maldivia | don't know |
| 00:28.07 | ckknight | ah, oh well |
| 00:28.10 | ckknight | we'll see |
| 00:28.13 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 00:28.53 | Kirkburn | ckknight, buy one when it comes out, eh :P |
| 00:28.57 | cladhaire | we'll be wiping at sartura in a minute, so I'll be able to test the SoR stuff |
| 00:29.05 | ckknight | Kirkburn, well, yea, I will, but that's in 3 months |
| 00:29.15 | Kirkburn | *might* be less \o/ |
| 00:29.22 | Kirkburn | (but probably won't) |
| 00:29.28 | Kirkburn | (but might be) |
| 00:29.51 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:29.56 | Kirkburn | So - any suggestions on how to do a diff on the UI files? |
| 00:30.21 | ckknight | how does wdn do it? |
| 00:30.42 | cladhaire | run a diff, then pretty it up. |
| 00:31.02 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: diff -u -r olddata newdata |
| 00:31.04 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: Commit the 1.12 files to an SVN repo.. then commit the BC files on top of it. |
| 00:31.12 | cladhaire | then its all magical =) |
| 00:31.48 | Kirkburn | Oookaay ... need an SVN =) And Maldivia, what's that in? |
| 00:32.06 | Maldivia | diff, standard comparison commandline tool :) |
| 00:32.33 | Kirkburn | In XP? |
| 00:32.39 | Maldivia | nope |
| 00:32.42 | cladhaire | you can download it |
| 00:32.46 | Maldivia | download unix tools, and you have it :) |
| 00:32.47 | cladhaire | its a gnu utility |
| 00:32.56 | Maldivia | http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:33.22 | Maldivia | impossible to use windows without those tools :) |
| 00:33.45 | Kirkburn | Bah, looks too complicated for me :P |
| 00:35.00 | Kirkburn | I'm happy to play host and let others tell me what's new =) |
| 00:35.01 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinDiff or something similar might work |
| 00:35.16 | zenzelezz | though that's pure speculation, as I'm too lazy to try it |
| 00:35.39 | Legorol | windiff is almost useless |
| 00:35.39 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, you're awesome |
| 00:36.06 | zenzelezz | Legorol: probably, but the wiki links to alternatives which might be better =D |
| 00:36.07 | Legorol | i must admit i use diff (although from cygwin and not from unxutils) under windows |
| 00:36.11 | zenzelezz | I just remembered the name |
| 00:36.29 | Tem | cladhaire, you didn't have the border this nicely done last time I saw it |
| 00:36.44 | cladhaire | Tem: I fixed it. |
| 00:36.52 | Maldivia | Kirkburn, I'll just send again |
| 00:36.55 | cladhaire | I was pissing my bouyfriend off because of how upset i was |
| 00:36.58 | cladhaire | but i got it done |
| 00:37.09 | Kirkburn | Well here' one diff for you: http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/5595-5666.diff |
| 00:37.34 | Maldivia | forgot -u on the first, -u makes it more human-readable (to me, anyway) |
| 00:37.40 | Kirkburn | Ah, I'll reupload |
| 00:38.20 | cladhaire | Tem: OOOH an issue for you to look at. |
| 00:38.22 | Kirkburn | Okay is a diff for you :) http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/5595-5666.diff |
| 00:38.29 | ckknight | so is the toc gonna become 20000? |
| 00:38.33 | Kirkburn | ack, grammar failure |
| 00:38.37 | Kirkburn | ckknight, yep |
| 00:38.40 | Tem | cladhaire, sure |
| 00:38.41 | ckknight | alright |
| 00:38.43 | ckknight | good plan |
| 00:38.48 | Tem | we're doing Fankris tonight |
| 00:38.53 | Tem | then going back into BWL |
| 00:38.53 | Tem | ] |
| 00:39.00 | Tem | I can totally phone in BWL |
| 00:39.10 | cladhaire | Tem: The highlight texture is LEFT anchored to the frame, the RIGHT anchored to the status text. I need a way to horiz offset the RIGHT anchor.. and it seems I have to provide both and X and a Y offset to make it tdo anything |
| 00:39.19 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: what are the different colors of the texture when highlighting? |
| 00:39.26 | cladhaire | i'm gonna just make the status text a bit bigger, and that'll resolve the issue |
| 00:39.34 | Tem | cladhaire, you do |
| 00:39.37 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: Debuffs, those are the blizzard colors. |
| 00:39.44 | JoshBorke | ok, cool |
| 00:39.45 | Tem | but what's wrong with RIGHT,5,0? |
| 00:40.14 | cladhaire | where? |
| 00:40.18 | cladhaire | Tem: It doesn't work. |
| 00:40.22 | Kirkburn | I'll make a page for all the BC UIs 2moro |
| 00:40.23 | cladhaire | Tem: Doesn't move it at all |
| 00:40.36 | Tem | then something else is wrong |
| 00:40.55 | cladhaire | Tem: That's what I figured =) |
| 00:41.00 | Tuller | oh boy, shaman color! |
| 00:41.08 | Iriel | Bear i mind that the download had a TOS attached, and being too public about these files could get you into legal hot water. |
| 00:41.28 | cladhaire | Tem: Take a look at it, its in UpdateLayout() at the bottom |
| 00:41.39 | cladhaire | Just need the rounded edge to extend beyond the status text. |
| 00:41.47 | cladhaire | I can resolve it easily another way, but I thought I could anchor it. |
| 00:41.52 | Kirkburn | I know, I'm not planning on spreading it - but it's useful stuff for those here |
| 00:42.10 | ckknight | Jump() seems to be replaced with JumpOrAscendStart() and AscendStop() |
| 00:42.15 | ckknight | seemingly for the flying |
| 00:42.26 | Tem | cladhaire, it's absolutely doable via anchoring |
| 00:42.36 | cladhaire | Tem: Thats what I thought =) |
| 00:42.57 | cladhaire | Tem: AlignRight and AlignBottom (/praid align and /praid valign) both work now. |
| 00:43.34 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: where in PerfectRaid to you layout the frames? |
| 00:43.54 | JoshBorke | nvm, i'm dumb |
| 00:43.55 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: UpdateLayout() |
| 00:44.18 | cladhaire | Haha I'm leaving it this way.. When a priest gets spirit of redemption, their bar turns purple and goes to "Imp. Dying" =) |
| 00:44.42 | Kirov | lol |
| 00:44.44 | JoshBorke | LOL, nice |
| 00:46.02 | cladhaire | I couldn't think how I wanted to put it, "Spirit" is too close to "Ghost".. and "Redemption" is too paladin-y. In my guild we call the talent imp. dying, so that works =) |
| 00:46.23 | jaxdahl | cladhaire, highlighting buggy if you use align right instead of align left, i think |
| 00:46.57 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: Not in my version |
| 00:47.02 | Kirkburn | zomg, Maldivia just gave me the best news :D |
| 00:47.07 | cladhaire | Its not properly offset horizontally but its only off by 10 pixels or so |
| 00:47.50 | Kirkburn | But I'm not going to say it :P |
| 00:48.10 | ckknight | They made Shaman's color white now? |
| 00:48.39 | Kirkburn | ["SHAMAN"] = { r = 1.0, g = 1.0, b = 1.0 }, |
| 00:48.40 | Kirkburn | seems so |
| 00:48.47 | cladhaire | temporary |
| 00:48.49 | Kirkburn | Looks temporary :P |
| 00:48.50 | cladhaire | they haven't chosen the new color |
| 00:49.13 | ckknight | yea, seems temporary |
| 00:49.14 | Maldivia | if(not (server == nil)) then <-- hehe :) |
| 00:50.05 | Kirov | Maldivia - what the |
| 00:50.42 | jaxdahl | cladhaire, is highlight supposed to higlight the whole row? |
| 00:50.42 | Kirkburn | Ta daa! Now please don't go spreading this link ... http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/ |
| 00:50.45 | Maldivia | Kirov: from Blizzards /ignore slash handler :) |
| 00:50.48 | Warla | is there a way to find out what professions a char has? |
| 00:50.59 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: yes |
| 00:51.21 | Warla | like cooking, mining, tailoring without actually having to open em? (not the details... just knowing IF he has it or not) |
| 00:51.54 | Warla | hmm |
| 00:51.54 | Kirov | Warla - scan their spell book |
| 00:51.58 | Warla | ya |
| 00:52.01 | Kirkburn | (I can track visitor numbers, so if it starts shooting up, I'll take it down again) |
| 00:52.01 | Warla | thats what just came to mind |
| 00:52.05 | Warla | scan spellbook |
| 00:52.17 | Maldivia | or scan skill lines |
| 00:52.27 | Kirov | or that |
| 00:52.29 | Warla | skill lines? |
| 00:52.35 | Kirkburn | Did anyone want an LFG system in WoW? |
| 00:52.36 | Warla | i didnt understand that part |
| 00:52.40 | Kirov | skills tab |
| 00:52.45 | Maldivia | Warla: when you press K |
| 00:52.56 | Iriel | Lots of people wanted a LFG system as long as it worked |
| 00:53.05 | Iriel | there's been an extensive API for some time, it just doesn't do anything |
| 00:53.18 | Kirov | Never understood that |
| 00:53.32 | Kirkburn | Well, there's LFGFrame.lua in 5666 |
| 00:53.33 | Maldivia | Iriel: well, apparently there's a LFGFrame.lua/xml in the expansion UI files |
| 00:53.40 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:53.59 | Iriel | Cool, maybe it's turnedo n |
| 00:54.03 | Kirkburn | Lots of mentions of the word criteria :) |
| 00:54.05 | Iriel | Hopefully it's not like TicTacToe |
| 00:54.42 | Mery | no its completly there and looks promising |
| 00:54.47 | Maldivia | yeah, why haven't they finished TicTacToe... what else to do, when you die in the beginning of a boss fight :| |
| 00:54.48 | ckknight | WORLDMAP_WORLD_ID, WORLDMAP_COSMIC_ID, WORLDMAP_OUTLAND_ID |
| 00:54.57 | ckknight | interesting |
| 00:55.02 | Kirkburn | oooh, cosmic! |
| 00:55.21 | Iriel | I guess that means that outland isn't forced onto the main world map? |
| 00:55.32 | Kirkburn | Btw, there's a 'cosmic' map of Outland - whatever that means |
| 00:55.33 | ckknight | guess not |
| 00:55.42 | Kirkburn | (as well as a normal map) |
| 00:55.48 | ckknight | Kirkburn, Cosmic is probably between Azeroth and Draenor |
| 00:55.50 | Maldivia | ckknight: speaking of WorldMapFrame.lua, noticed the: -- Temporary Hack (Temporary meaning 2 yrs, haha) |
| 00:55.57 | Kirkburn | Quite possibly |
| 00:56.13 | ckknight | and between whatever other expansion worlds they want to put on |
| 00:56.13 | ckknight | hehe |
| 00:56.21 | ckknight | Maldivia, hehe, yea |
| 00:56.36 | cladhaire | Iriel: Can i bother you for a second on a bizarre anchoring question? |
| 00:56.52 | Iriel | Certainly |
| 00:56.53 | ckknight | okay, yea, if you zoom out of Azeroth/Draenor, you go to cosmic |
| 00:56.59 | ckknight | and cosmic is the highest zoom |
| 00:57.18 | Maldivia | makes sense |
| 00:57.37 | cladhaire | Iriel: Nvm., Seems if you call SetPoint with three args and only the x offset, it doesn't apply it. Damn arg counting =) |
| 00:57.45 | Mery | "if ( GetCurrentMapZone() ~= WORLDMAP_WORLD_ID ) then" comparing a zone return with a continent ID lol but since WORLD_ID is 0 as well as the return of the zone in that case it works :P |
| 00:58.08 | Iriel | cladhaire : I'd run into something like that before, so I think that's correct. |
| 00:58.10 | Kirkburn | I deleted the image from the wiki ... outland was in the middle, quite small, with constellions around it |
| 00:58.20 | cladhaire | Iriel: yeah, tem foudn it for me. |
| 00:58.28 | Iriel | Tem finds a lot of things |
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| 00:58.53 | Maldivia | ckknight, try looking at the item socketing UI, look at the gem type info table, and its initial data :) |
| 00:59.12 | ckknight | give me a keyword I can ctrl-f for |
| 00:59.36 | Maldivia | it's the first couple of lines in the file |
| 00:59.41 | GeoDaMancer | Item Socketing? |
| 01:00.06 | Tem | heh |
| 01:00.34 | Kirkburn | ckknight, you were right! The cosmos map: http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/cmap.jpg |
| 01:00.37 | ckknight | what file? |
| 01:00.56 | ckknight | figured, Kirkburn |
| 01:01.04 | cladhaire | .. |
| 01:01.08 | Maldivia | ckknight, the lua file, in the item sicketing addon |
| 01:01.09 | cladhaire | you guys do know this channel is logged =( |
| 01:01.14 | ckknight | Maldivia, what lua file? |
| 01:01.18 | ckknight | oh, addon |
| 01:01.49 | ckknight | hrm, okay |
| 01:02.02 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, this channel isn't playing host to BC files however |
| 01:02.17 | Cairenn | *this* channel isn't playing host to BC files at all |
| 01:02.35 | cladhaire | I'm just saying, your hostmask is here, yoru username is here, your link to your files is here. |
| 01:02.44 | cladhaire | just don't want anyone getting spanked who doesn't need to |
| 01:02.44 | ckknight | yea, WoWI should steer clear of any legally gray situations |
| 01:03.10 | Kirkburn | I'm responsible, and if Blizz don't like what I'm doing, then I will take it down |
| 01:03.29 | cladhaire | fair enough |
| 01:03.54 | Kirkburn | In the eyes of Blizzard, I doubt that new UI code will have them reaching for the lawyers :P |
| 01:04.26 | Kirkburn | Images and videos I can understand, though |
| 01:04.58 | Iriel | Just dont give their lawyers any reasons to hate the UI community. |
| 01:05.05 | ckknight | hehe, in Blizzard's FrameXML: for level, dropdownFrame in OPEN_DROPDOWNMENUS do |
| 01:05.19 | ckknight | they'll have to go through those and fix em for 5.1 |
| 01:05.19 | Iriel | Dont discuss, or post, or anything any possible new UI features until the build is live, or they get announced on the forum. |
| 01:05.25 | ckknight | missing pairs and such |
| 01:05.37 | Kirkburn | Iriel, I think that's somewhat over the top |
| 01:05.57 | Cairenn | yes and no Kirkburn |
| 01:06.09 | ckknight | can't we yammer on in the channel, just not tell anyone else? |
| 01:06.32 | Kirov | the problem is we don't know who's in the channel |
| 01:06.37 | Iriel | Well, the channel log is public and googled |
| 01:06.45 | cladhaire | I can tell you one thing.. If slouken was here, e would be pissed |
| 01:06.45 | Cairenn | keeping stuff hypothetical is fine |
| 01:06.46 | Gryphen | freenode is logged |
| 01:06.46 | Hexarobi | im a spy for paraguay |
| 01:06.46 | Kirov | if they see something, they might go running to the forums. |
| 01:06.48 | cladhaire | he made that much very clear |
| 01:07.06 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, he did? |
| 01:07.08 | Hexarobi | o crap, thats logged?? |
| 01:07.42 | Cairenn | the whole reason purl is in this channel (contrary to the abuse he gets) is for channel logs |
| 01:07.51 | ckknight | ~botsnack |
| 01:07.51 | purl | thanks, ckknight |
| 01:07.52 | Kirkburn | Okay, I shall refrain from posting the link again |
| 01:07.55 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: He didn't come into the channel and say "don't do this".. but there was a conversation. |
| 01:07.57 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 01:08.11 | Kirkburn | I'm only doing this to help you lot :P |
| 01:08.12 | Hexarobi | s/gets his suicide pill/thought it was for the grepin'/ |
| 01:08.26 | ckknight | doesn't work on actions |
| 01:09.02 | Cairenn | look, we all know the rules guys, just don't be stupid is the point |
| 01:09.45 | Kirkburn | sure thing |
| 01:10.19 | Kirkburn | Once it's in beta, this conversation will most likely be null and void, at least |
| 01:10.29 | Cairenn | I've been letting a lot of stuff slide that I really shouldn't be, because I'm trusting you guys to not be stupid about it |
| 01:10.32 | ckknight | it would be rude and unnecessary to get the general wow community excited about stuff like the cosmic map and whatnot |
| 01:10.49 | Kirkburn | (well, except the stupidity part. That's always good to remember :P) |
| 01:11.09 | ckknight | we're really just speculating anyway, and seeing what we can prepare for |
| 01:11.12 | Maldivia | ckknight: well, posting screenshots from the alpha is against the TOS |
| 01:11.15 | Cairenn | which is fine |
| 01:11.17 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: adding columns to praid seems so hackish :-( |
| 01:11.22 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: It won't be, |
| 01:11.24 | ckknight | Maldivia, that was kirkburn. |
| 01:11.27 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: I'll be working on it. |
| 01:11.29 | Kirkburn | Interestingly, Blizzard don't seem to care about the stuff on the worldofwar.net forums |
| 01:11.33 | Cairenn | as I said, "hypothetical" discussions are perfectly acceptable |
| 01:11.37 | cladhaire | i'm "in the mood" |
| 01:11.48 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: woohoo! let me know when you'd like me to test it |
| 01:11.48 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/praid-hilite.jpg |
| 01:11.56 | Cairenn | yes, it's splitting hairs |
| 01:11.59 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: But it may factor into the way Blizzard feels about WoWInterface.. given that this is their channel |
| 01:12.15 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: What version? |
| 01:12.25 | Kirkburn | In future I shall link to the thread containing it, or the website that happens to have it on the forums =) |
| 01:12.28 | cladhaire | if its not HEAD branches/PerfectRaid/Ace2/PerfectRaid then I can't help you =) |
| 01:12.36 | cladhaire | and that'll become a release version.. soon. |
| 01:12.52 | Maldivia | ckknight: I like how saying that the alpha exists is against the eula :) |
| 01:12.59 | ckknight | lol. |
| 01:13.01 | Kirkburn | Hypothetically, a new LFG system would be really cool, wouldn't it |
| 01:13.09 | ckknight | it damn would be, Kirkburn |
| 01:13.13 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.14 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:13.15 | jaxdahl | cladhaire 10000 something |
| 01:13.22 | ckknight | let's dream together. |
| 01:13.28 | ckknight | good times. |
| 01:13.35 | Kirkburn | The first rule of the alpha is that you don't talk about the alpha |
| 01:13.43 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: trunk or branches? |
| 01:14.09 | ckknight | the second rule of the alpha is that you _do not_ talk about the alpha |
| 01:14.22 | Kirkburn | What alpha? I see no alpha ... |
| 01:14.40 | ckknight | Third rule of the alpha is if this is your first time, you have to play. |
| 01:14.46 | Maldivia | they probably set alpha to transparent, that's why we dont see it! :) |
| 01:14.56 | ckknight | must've. |
| 01:15.00 | Kirkburn | zomg Maldivia, you're a genius! |
| 01:15.07 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 01:15.15 | Kirkburn | (please, please let the beta start soon *sigh*) |
| 01:15.20 | GeoDaMancer | Hahahahahah... |
| 01:15.42 | jaxdahl | branch |
| 01:16.08 | Kirkburn | Hypothetically speaking, the alpha, if one were to exist, would look pretty damn amazing. Probably. |
| 01:16.13 | ckknight | interesting, pvpType now has "sanctuary" as a possibility (along with the previous "hostile", "arena", "contested", and "friendly") |
| 01:16.25 | ckknight | man, I bet if it existed, it'd be so pimp |
| 01:16.38 | Kirkburn | That might be awesome! |
| 01:17.10 | GeoDaMancer | Oh, sweet! |
| 01:17.12 | Kirkburn | Pity we don't know though ... |
| 01:17.31 | ckknight | right. I'm just guessing here. |
| 01:17.45 | Kirkburn | oooh, sailor |
| 01:19.01 | Kirkburn | The wowwiki has only got one DCMA notice so far |
| 01:19.10 | ckknight | DMCA |
| 01:19.11 | ckknight | really? |
| 01:19.13 | Kirkburn | And that was only for 3 images |
| 01:19.36 | ckknight | three images from the nonexistent alpha? |
| 01:19.50 | ckknight | obviously doctored, since the alpha doesn't exist. |
| 01:20.03 | Kirkburn | 3 metaphorical images of imagined mounts |
| 01:20.04 | Cairenn | oh come on, knowing that the alpha exists is public knowledge :p |
| 01:20.27 | Kirkburn | Ah wait ... we're not under the NDA surely |
| 01:22.25 | ckknight | Cairenn, didn't the EULA say it didn't exist, though? |
| 01:22.43 | Kirkburn | But surely we're not under the NDA/EULA |
| 01:22.51 | Iriel | Kirkburn : Did you download the client? |
| 01:22.56 | Kirkburn | Nope |
| 01:23.16 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: Do you ever want the opportunity to be under teh NDA/EULA? =) |
| 01:23.18 | Iriel | Then you're probably not, but whoever sent you any material from it, is. |
| 01:23.22 | Kirkburn | (not planning to either, too much temptation to ruin the BC experience) |
| 01:23.22 | Maldivia | Cairenn: (...) you agree that you will not disclose the following: (i) The existence of a Friends and Family Alpha Test. |
| 01:23.29 | GeoDaMancer | In the action bar, what is the Range Indicator? |
| 01:23.52 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, but surely since I know about it and not under any NDA, the knowledge must be able to run free? |
| 01:24.15 | ckknight | no, not true |
| 01:24.20 | Iriel | Not really, if someone gave you coke's trade secrets and you published them, you're still liable |
| 01:24.27 | ckknight | right. |
| 01:24.32 | Kirkburn | hmm, good pont |
| 01:24.38 | Kirkburn | *point |
| 01:24.43 | Iriel | You're wilfully violating an agreement you're aware of too |
| 01:24.50 | Iriel | which makes it doubly nasty, legally |
| 01:25.11 | Maldivia | also from the EULA You agree that you shall not, under any circumstances, (v) Create, reproduce, distribute, display or otherwise make availablescreen shots depicting the Program or any element thereof without the prior written consent of Blizzard |
| 01:25.41 | Kirkburn | That's screenshots, Maldivia =) But I get the point |
| 01:26.05 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: yeah, just a reference to the DMCA for wowwiki, aswell as your screenshot from ealier |
| 01:27.00 | Kirkburn | Oh c'mon, I just copy-pasted a link from the WWN forums, which are playing host to images of the alpha right now. Ach... |
| 01:27.05 | Kirkburn | ~sigh Laws |
| 01:27.12 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Laws!" |
| 01:27.20 | Maldivia | exactly |
| 01:28.06 | Kirkburn | crazy |
| 01:28.31 | Maldivia | Personally, I don't see the problem with screenshots - the expansion has already been showcased on E3, and a lot of screenshots came from there |
| 01:29.31 | ckknight | well, they might not want to get a screenshot of the blonde-haired Blood Elf named Fashyst, or something like that |
| 01:29.52 | Kirkburn | Methinks Blizz would care as much as MS cared about ClearFont :P |
| 01:30.40 | Iriel | The problem is usually non-final content. Blizzard can publish a screenshot and properly describe what it may, or may not, say about the final product. |
| 01:30.56 | Iriel | But also think about the 2nd race stuff, think about the danger of a leaked screenshot before that announcement had been made. |
| 01:31.06 | ckknight | right. |
| 01:31.21 | Iriel | Blizzard know what they have officially said and not said, they likely wish to retain full control over such things. |
| 01:31.24 | ckknight | people were speculating like mad about the Eredar |
| 01:31.50 | Iriel | That EULA applies to employees, and threatens termination, they take this stuff seriously. |
| 01:34.03 | Kirkburn | Iriel, yeah I can completely understand wanting to restrict the flow of screenies of unfinished content - damaging to a brand name and all that :/ |
| 01:34.33 | ckknight | right |
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| 01:44.57 | norgs_away | Cairenn: pong |
| 01:45.47 | GeoDaMancer | I love Family Guy. xD |
| 01:48.35 | Esamynn | evening norgs |
| 01:48.53 | norgs | Hi Esamynn! |
| 01:51.56 | Kirkburn | Goodnight one and all! |
| 01:53.10 | GeoDaMancer | Hahahah, that's a great quit. |
| 01:54.16 | jaxdahl | cladhaire, highlihgting is fixed |
| 01:54.26 | jaxdahl | interact distance dimming is wonky tho |
| 01:54.31 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: O.o? |
| 01:54.42 | jaxdahl | everyone but me is dimmed |
| 01:54.43 | cladhaire | didn't you switch back to trunk, or are you back on branches? |
| 01:56.25 | cladhaire | Okay, opinion question. The following is a screenshot of PerfectRaid. I'm highlighting myself in the raid. That same highlight texture is used for debuff coloring (The border gets colored based on debuff). What I do need, is a good graphical way to show a unit is selected. Any ideas? |
| 01:56.27 | cladhaire | http://imagelink.org/info/4896 |
| 01:58.35 | jaxdahl | ooh,t he color coded highlighting is very nice |
| 01:58.39 | jaxdahl | i'm seeing it in action |
| 01:58.50 | jaxdahl | i love it |
| 01:58.55 | jaxdahl | not sure aobut selection |
| 01:58.57 | jaxdahl | i'm in game |
| 01:59.08 | cladhaire | yeah, i need SOMETHING for selection |
| 02:00.26 | jaxdahl | maybe some sort of blink |
| 02:00.31 | jaxdahl | slow fade in/out |
| 02:00.32 | jaxdahl | or rapid |
| 02:00.41 | jaxdahl | inverse colors.. |
| 02:01.05 | Iriel | Magical Trevor dancing nearby |
| 02:01.12 | Miravlix | Get Color-Cycle on wowi |
| 02:01.23 | Miravlix | You can get all kinds of color code from it |
| 02:02.56 | cladhaire | Miravlix: I'm not looking for color codes =/.. hrm |
| 02:03.59 | GeoDaMancer | Anyone here know a lot about the ActionBar stuff in the FrameXML? |
| 02:06.39 | Iriel | Depends which bit of it |
| 02:07.17 | GeoDaMancer | It has a function in it that doesn't seem to be used anywhere else. ActionButtonUp and ActionButtonDown don't seem to be called anywhere. |
| 02:07.38 | Iriel | Bindings.xml |
| 02:07.51 | GeoDaMancer | Ah, it's in the bindings. Hrm... |
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| 02:10.06 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhh, alright. So that basically makes the button trigger when a key is pressed, rather that just a clink? |
| 02:10.09 | GeoDaMancer | ^click^' |
| 02:10.34 | Iriel | yes |
| 02:10.50 | GeoDaMancer | Cool, cool. Thank you for that. You are godly. |
| 02:12.31 | GeoDaMancer | Wow, that cuts down on about a quarter of what I needed. |
| 02:14.56 | Tuller | yeah, actionbarup and down do in fact get called :) |
| 02:15.19 | Tuller | err button |
| 02:16.19 | GeoDaMancer | Just saw that. Which means I can leave that out of what I'm working on. ^_^ |
| 02:23.11 | GeoDaMancer | In the Action Bar, what is the Range Indicator for? |
| 02:23.39 | Miravlix | The range of the action on it |
| 02:24.01 | Miravlix | Spells has 40 35 and other ranges melee has 5 range |
| 02:24.42 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm, I think's the color of the text, actually. >.> |
| 02:27.33 | Tuller | the little icon thing? |
| 02:28.20 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah. |
| 02:28.22 | Tuller | its a little circle that's shown if an action is in range, and there's no keybinding for the action |
| 02:29.48 | GeoDaMancer | Thanks, I'm trying to write a mini actionbar thingy. |
| 02:31.15 | Kirov | no grow up for ptargets? |
| 02:31.33 | GeoDaMancer | grow up? |
| 02:32.10 | cladhaire | Kirov: there is in PR branhc, not sure about Ptargets |
| 02:32.31 | Tem | Where do I go once I'm neutral with the brood? |
| 02:33.10 | Kirov | cladhaire - there are ptargets included with praid? |
| 02:33.11 | vhaarr | Tem: Caverns of Time in Tanaris. |
| 02:33.19 | cladhaire | Kirov: No, not right now =( |
| 02:33.26 | Tem | thanks vhaarr |
| 02:33.49 | vhaarr | Tem: Maybe you have to do the quest to "Discover the Brood of Nozdormu" first, I don't remember. |
| 02:33.56 | vhaarr | Tem: You get that in Cenarion Hold. |
| 02:34.02 | Tem | I did that one already |
| 02:34.12 | vhaarr | Then you should just go there, I'm pretty sure. |
| 02:34.31 | vhaarr | And talk to Anachronos, or whatever his name is. |
| 02:35.04 | Tem | yeah |
| 02:50.11 | Kemayo | cladhaire: How stable is the format on the svn.wowace.com/files page? (That is to say, will my update-addons script need to be tweaked a lot in coming days?) |
| 02:51.02 | JoshBorke | i run mine once a day :-D |
| 02:51.09 | cladhaire | Kemayo: Yes it will |
| 02:52.01 | Kemayo | Okay. Do you plan to provide some sort of lightweight / easily parsed feed of the data, or will we be stuck scraping the HTML? |
| 02:52.17 | cladhaire | Kemayo: probbaly scraping, we're working out the details. |
| 02:52.21 | vhaarr | cladhaire: I was thinking, would it be possible to make a script that runs on the SVN server and checks addons for correct Ace2 library loading order in the TOC? |
| 02:52.25 | Kemayo | Okay. Thanks. :) |
| 02:52.31 | cladhaire | Really, Ace coders need to have more stable releases and less release 19,000 times a day |
| 02:52.45 | vhaarr | cladhaire: A checkin != a release. |
| 02:52.46 | cladhaire | vhaarr: No, I dont have time for something like that. |
| 02:53.29 | vhaarr | My work here is done. |
| 02:53.59 | cladhaire | lol =) |
| 02:54.04 | Kemayo | Having to update my addons every 4-5 minutes leaves me feeling somehow fulfilled, though... :( |
| 02:54.05 | vhaarr | :P |
| 02:54.20 | cladhaire | Kemayo: hah |
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| 03:13.12 | Esamynn | ok, last night Maexxna sucked, tonight, It's Noth who sucks |
| 03:13.20 | jaxdahl | cladhaire, i am on Maexxna |
| 03:13.30 | jaxdahl | think you can hack something up to highlight people who have web spray? |
| 03:13.30 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: Hrm? |
| 03:13.41 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: Not at the moment, no.. i'm working on other stuff. |
| 03:13.45 | jaxdahl | that' sok |
| 03:13.56 | Esamynn | highlight how? |
| 03:14.01 | Esamynn | announce them? |
| 03:14.45 | GeoDaMancer | web spray? |
| 03:14.59 | Esamynn | I think he means the wrap |
| 03:16.34 | jaxdahl | eya |
| 03:16.35 | jaxdahl | yea |
| 03:16.37 | jaxdahl | web wrap |
| 03:16.55 | jaxdahl | Esamynn, so i can see who to click on the perfectraid frame in order to heal them |
| 03:17.20 | Esamynn | look up La_Vendetta boss Mods |
| 03:17.28 | Esamynn | La* vendetta |
| 03:18.00 | Esamynn | i'm using them myself until I get done with the boss mod api i'm working on atm' |
| 03:19.15 | jaxdahl | yea la vendetta announces it |
| 03:19.20 | jaxdahl | but i want to see it on my raid frames |
| 03:19.50 | Esamynn | oh I see |
| 03:20.46 | Nightdew | oh yes.. nwn2 beta here i come *cheers* |
| 03:27.10 | jaxdahl | LOTRO alpha 3 is starting soon |
| 03:27.13 | jaxdahl | as well as teh beta |
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| 03:47.58 | JoshBorke | wow, i just got watched 6 times at bloodlord |
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| 04:31.06 | GeoDaMancer | Hotkeys are like the keybindings, right? |
| 04:31.53 | GeoDaMancer | Or, is it just the displayed number. >.> |
| 04:42.38 | GeoDaMancer | Wow, and people say it's dead on saturdays. xD |
| 04:48.23 | Kirov | day before a holiday |
| 04:48.26 | Kirov | at least in the US |
| 04:48.34 | Kirov | And yes |
| 04:48.40 | Kirov | hotkey == keybinding |
| 04:49.01 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah, I noticed that. ^_^ |
| 04:49.57 | GeoDaMancer | I hate Hooks. |
| 04:50.27 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 04:50.29 | ckknight | how come? |
| 04:50.54 | GeoDaMancer | Because, it broke my UI. xD I'm writing something that emulates the action bar. ^^; |
| 04:52.06 | MentalPower | cheater |
| 04:52.13 | Esamynn | lol |
| 04:52.19 | JoshBorke | night all :-) |
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| 04:55.13 | GeoDaMancer | Yay! No bad Beep. |
| 04:55.18 | GeoDaMancer | I dread the Beep. >.> |
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| 05:00.24 | GeoDaMancer | Hola, Cairenn. |
| 05:00.32 | Cairenn | hello again |
| 05:09.48 | GeoDaMancer | Wha's up? |
| 05:11.11 | GeoDaMancer | Anyone here know how to use the WoW UI Designer? >.> I can't figure out how to make it use inheritance. |
| 05:21.09 | Kirov | people see this - http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14663786/ |
| 05:22.25 | Cairenn | yeah: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/04/australia.irwin/index.html |
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| 05:24.27 | Kirov | That's really sad |
| 05:25.44 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah, it is. |
| 05:25.46 | GeoDaMancer | I liked him. |
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| 05:39.54 | GeoDaMancer | AHHHHH! |
| 05:48.11 | GeoDaMancer | This is driving me insane. |
| 05:51.15 | Kirov | ? |
| 05:54.02 | GeoDaMancer | xml really goes over my head at times, and I'm trying to use the WoW UI designer, but it won't let me set inheritance, or I don't know how to... I've written up some templates, and I can't figure out how to get them on it. xD |
| 05:55.48 | GeoDaMancer | Anchors, and points. ~_~ Oi. |
| 06:00.07 | Kirov | I never use any WYSIWYG editors for anything that I can do in text. |
| 06:00.21 | Kirov | HTML, XML, etc. |
| 06:01.29 | Cairenn | lol Esamynn |
| 06:02.22 | GeoDaMancer | Well, that's the problem, with xml, it's all greek to me. xD |
| 06:03.20 | GeoDaMancer | Meh, I'll be back later. |
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| 06:08.41 | Tem | ok, we have a dilema |
| 06:08.58 | Tem | and I'm looking for opinions/possible solutions |
| 06:09.11 | Tem | We have 2 officers that are assholes |
| 06:09.27 | Tem | all the other officers want to either kick them or leave the guild |
| 06:09.59 | Tem | however, they are currently the most avtive among us |
| 06:10.12 | Tem | kicking them would have a serious adverse affect on the guild |
| 06:10.22 | gnorlish | is your GM just another officer or does he sit above |
| 06:11.10 | Iriel | Are they assholes in the 'opinionated self absorbed jackass' sense? |
| 06:11.19 | Iriel | Or are they significantly detrimental to the guild? |
| 06:11.19 | Tem | oh yes, Iriel, very much so |
| 06:11.27 | Iriel | Also, how many other officers are they? |
| 06:11.38 | Tem | theres about 8 of us in total |
| 06:11.55 | Tem | the GM is techically above, but acts as an equal |
| 06:12.07 | Iriel | Has anyone had a 'guys, can you be less of an ass' conversation with them> |
| 06:12.08 | Tem | he's not around much due to work lately |
| 06:12.21 | Tem | we've had several "come to jesus" meetings with them |
| 06:12.23 | Kirov | Tem - We had a similar issue with my last guild. |
| 06:12.33 | Kirov | Tem - Our answer was to leave the guild and form a new one. |
| 06:12.43 | Tem | well, here is our fear |
| 06:12.50 | Kirov | The old guild imploded on itself afterwards |
| 06:13.04 | Tem | if we kick them, we lose 4-5 core raiders who are friends with them in real life |
| 06:13.10 | Kirov | Basically, the only thing keeping the guild together was those who left. |
| 06:17.30 | Tem | also, one is our MT |
| 06:17.30 | Tem | and the other has been leading most of the raids |
| 06:17.30 | Tem | so we criple ourselves if we kick them |
| 06:17.31 | Tem | if we leave, a lot of people will leave with us |
| 06:17.31 | Tem | leaving us with 2 guilds that can't field an MC raid |
| 06:17.31 | Iriel | Esamynn : Are you Kaya? |
| 06:17.31 | Tem | so we're at a damned if we do/ damned if we don't situation |
| 06:18.35 | Tem | ok, my bad, there's 12 of us including the 2 black sheep |
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| 06:21.43 | Tem | so, any thoughts on what we can do about this? |
| 06:22.03 | Iriel | What about the rest of the guild, the non-officers, are they also not liking these 2? |
| 06:24.05 | Tem | I think most of the guild is with us opinion-wise |
| 06:24.42 | Iriel | Can you demote them (maybe create a new 'penalty box' rank for them) ? |
| 06:28.59 | Tem | it's not their power as officers that's the problem |
| 06:29.09 | Tem | their attitude is unacceptable |
| 06:30.33 | Tem | either way, the only solutions we seem to accept as good enough involve us not being in the same guild as them |
| 06:33.29 | vhaarr | Tem: One thing is for sure, then, as long as they remain in the guild, you will be annoyed, and you don't want to be annoyed when you play a game. |
| 06:33.35 | vhaarr | So there really is no option. |
| 06:33.41 | Tem | indeed |
| 06:33.45 | vhaarr | Since you (the majority) > them, gkick them. |
| 06:33.48 | Tem | I get very little time to play wow this fall |
| 06:34.03 | Tem | I don't want to spend what little time I have to play dealing with their bull |
| 06:34.08 | vhaarr | And then just go with the flow, whatever happens after the gkick would happen sooner or later anyway. |
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| 06:34.24 | vhaarr | You can't spend your time dealing with that kind of people. |
| 06:34.43 | vhaarr | So, there, I solved it for you, tell them to come whine at me if they hate you for gkicking. |
| 06:35.36 | vhaarr | :P |
| 06:36.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Are there any high-resolution timer that we have access to in WoW? |
| 06:36.19 | ScytheBlade1 | time() doesn't quite cut it |
| 06:36.37 | Iriel | debugprofilestart/stop |
| 06:36.52 | Kirov | GetTime() |
| 06:36.53 | Iriel | tho its broken on dual core machines |
| 06:37.08 | Kirov | is GetTime() broken as well? |
| 06:37.16 | Iriel | not AFAIK |
| 06:37.18 | Kirov | I assume so since it's the same call internally afaik |
| 06:37.48 | norgs | gettime is system uptime in milliseconds no? |
| 06:37.51 | vhaarr | I don't think so. |
| 06:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | GetTime() should be sufficient, thanks |
| 06:42.08 | vhaarr | GetTime() is just a wrapper for GetTickCount(). |
| 06:42.08 | vhaarr | the windows API thingy |
| 06:42.08 | vhaarr | (on windows, that is) |
| 06:42.08 | Kirov | is (when it's working) debugprofile_() more accurate than GetTime()? |
| 06:42.09 | Iriel | debugprofile is the CPU clock, its as accurate as it comes |
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| 06:42.27 | Kirov | unless you're on a multi-core cpu |
| 06:42.28 | Kirov | heh |
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| 06:59.19 | |FF|Im2good4u | Functions table.foreach and table.foreachi are deprecated. You can use a for loop with pairs or ipairs instead. - tobad i never understood pairs anyway :) |
| 07:11.10 | Cairenn | night guys |
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| 07:14.18 | Tem | |FF|Im2good4u, http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 07:32.58 | Iriel | Sleep time for me |
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| 07:40.16 | Tem | I really really really hate crashing in nef's lair |
| 07:41.00 | Kirov | Tem - you're one of the proud "few" that a driver upgrade / downgrade / sidegrade did nothing for? |
| 07:41.24 | Tem | no driver changes have made any difference |
| 07:41.45 | Kirov | I had similar problems |
| 07:41.48 | Tem | (well, some drivers have been more graceful about how they fail, but they all crash) |
| 07:42.20 | Tem | I'd also like to know why wow chills at 25MB memory usage for about 30 seconds before shooting up to 100MB and THEN finally appearing |
| 07:42.34 | Kirov | I finally found a way to prevent it with out having to buy a new video card ... but that's because I know someone who works at NVidia |
| 07:43.20 | Kirov | Seems really silly that no one has come out with a fix for it. |
| 07:43.45 | Kirov | Blizzard's stance seems to be "We fixed it already ... it's ATi's fault." |
| 07:44.01 | Kirov | and ATI's stance seems to be "We fixed it too, ask Blizzard" |
| 07:46.44 | Tem | yeah, I'm stuck in the middle |
| 07:46.46 | Tem | and it blows |
| 07:47.20 | Tem | I'd verymuch like to be running an nVidia card, but my laptop stops me from getting a new one |
| 07:48.00 | Kirov | Yeah, I'm glad I switched over to a desktop before I got to BWL |
| 07:48.25 | norgs | so, i really want to know how knowing someone who works for nvidia helps with an ati card... |
| 07:49.58 | Kirov | norgs - he had a couple of useless, out of date cards laying around he gave me |
| 07:50.05 | Kirov | 6800 Ultra |
| 07:50.24 | norgs | ahhh - right... i can see how that would help a great deal :) |
| 07:50.33 | ckknight | I want to buy a Mac |
| 07:51.11 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:51.11 | norgs | a mac laptop or desktop? |
| 07:51.16 | ckknight | laptop probably |
| 07:51.32 | norgs | even after all the recent problems with them? |
| 07:51.33 | ckknight | the only thing stopping me is lack of funds |
| 07:51.40 | ckknight | recent problems? |
| 07:51.45 | ckknight | like the battery stuff and whatnot? |
| 07:51.51 | norgs | yeah |
| 07:51.58 | ckknight | yea. |
| 07:52.00 | norgs | and the fans karking it |
| 07:52.02 | ckknight | I'd wait for the Core Duos, at least, anyway |
| 07:52.19 | Kameril | long night, finally got Sapphiron though, KT is interesting so far.. |
| 07:54.05 | Tem | I'll never buy a mac purely because their advertisments annoy the piss out of me |
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| 07:54.50 | wereHamster | is saphiron that easy? |
| 07:55.22 | ckknight | Tem, I don't watch TV, so I haven't seen an ad from them for a few years. |
| 07:55.43 | Kameril | he's easier than 4h, but not exactly a pushover |
| 07:55.48 | norgs | http://zdnet.com.au/blogs/securifythis/soa//0,39033341,39267968,00.htm |
| 07:55.57 | norgs | About the mac lappies |
| 07:56.12 | Kirov | The new macs make it tempting |
| 07:57.01 | ckknight | norgs, interesting info |
| 07:57.18 | ckknight | it'll be a while before I get one, so hopefully they'll have worked out the kinks by then |
| 07:57.32 | norgs | yeah |
| 07:57.58 | norgs | i think first generation of anything new is a bit dodgey |
| 07:58.22 | ckknight | likely, I'll be waiting till Leopard comes out, then get a laptop with that |
| 07:58.45 | norgs | i said to my friend before he went out and got a new mac: "You usually caution me about getting first generation stuff" and he said: "But this is Apple, they usually do things right" |
| 07:58.49 | ckknight | see, Windows pisses me off, and Linux is too hard to get things working on (such as WoW or graphics and such) |
| 07:59.05 | ckknight | I really just want OS X |
| 07:59.07 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:59.18 | norgs | don't get me wrong, i've been using a mac for the last 2 years |
| 07:59.24 | ckknight | alright |
| 07:59.28 | norgs | OSX is beautiful |
| 07:59.44 | ckknight | I care more for productivity than anything :-P |
| 07:59.47 | norgs | but i wouldn't touch these new laptops yet :) |
| 07:59.53 | ckknight | in Windows, I have absolutely no themes :-P |
| 08:00.11 | ckknight | well, I want an x86 box for sure |
| 08:00.40 | ckknight | so that I can boot into Windows if need be. |
| 08:00.52 | ckknight | for work or whatnot |
| 08:01.28 | ckknight | and with my upcoming college schedule, having a laptop is much easier for me than a desktop |
| 08:11.39 | DCUI | Any coder who have some time to look at this addon, it aint displaying the info in the tooltip anymore... MobResistances: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3344-1-mobresistances.html |
| 08:12.29 | |FF|Im2good4u | does it give any errors ? |
| 08:12.54 | DCUI | Nope |
| 08:13.24 | DCUI | And it works with the checks when looking into the debug feature.... Just dont get it to the tooltip anymore |
| 08:14.44 | DCUI | And this is the only addon I found that track what resists mobs have, anyone know of any other by any chance ? |
| 08:15.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | well its also the first i see that track resistences :P |
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| 08:16.07 | DCUI | Mmm... I would be sweet to have it running again |
| 08:16.16 | DCUI | I+t=it |
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| 08:17.34 | Kemayo | Ah, Verizon. With your oh-so-wonderful DSL. |
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| 08:17.56 | DCUI | I guess the blizz tooltip code have changed some since 2006/02/24 |
| 08:18.03 | DCUI | Hehe Kema |
| 08:18.53 | Kirov | I used Verizon DSL twice in my life |
| 08:19.05 | Kirov | Never, ever again. |
| 08:19.26 | Kirov | Both times I moved someplace were they were the only provider, only to have cable internet show up about 3 months later |
| 08:19.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | DCUI: Probely or some other addon breaks it |
| 08:20.47 | Kirov | Using "6Mb" Comcast cable now ... clocks at 8.5 Mb using www.speedtest.net |
| 08:21.01 | Kemayo | It's especially bad, since I moved from having Speakeasy to having Verizon. Goodbye intelligent tech support. |
| 08:21.23 | Kirov | ick |
| 08:21.27 | Kirov | Speakeasy is awesome |
| 08:22.00 | DCUI | FF: Mmmm, might be... I must test MobResistances solo when I get home (I did turn off the addons I remember alters the tooltip but might have missed one) |
| 08:25.37 | Kirov | from http://www.speedtest.net/result/40538420.png SBC DSL to http://www.speedtest.net/result/43200658.png Comcast Cable (while playing WoW on two computers and listening to high quality internet radio) |
| 08:29.07 | DCUI | I got http://www.speedtest.net/result/43200870.png |
| 08:29.21 | Kirov | using what? |
| 08:30.14 | DCUI | not sure, work isp ;) |
| 08:30.53 | Kirov | DCUI that's the closest one to you? |
| 08:31.20 | Kirov | And what's with the upload being 4 times faster? |
| 08:31.27 | DCUI | Hmmm might test Germany, (from sweden here) |
| 08:31.44 | wereHamster | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.47 | Kirov | me thinks no one is uploading from you office right now |
| 08:32.11 | Kirov | wereHamster - linux? |
| 08:32.15 | |FF|Im2good4u | DCUI: i dunno wuts wrong whit your addon sorry |
| 08:32.26 | wereHamster | there's flash for linux, but not for amd64 |
| 08:32.38 | DCUI | *cough* got a bit better to germany: http://www.speedtest.net/result/43201188.png |
| 08:34.34 | DCUI | But I agree, it looks fun when the upload is faster in the first test :P |
| 08:35.16 | Kirov | wereHamster - doh |
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| 08:37.51 | Kirov | wereHamster - tried using dslreports.com? |
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| 08:39.15 | Kirov | http://www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=97 |
| 08:39.22 | wereHamster | found a win32 box .. http://www.speedtest.net/result/43201390.png |
| 08:39.56 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeeh net.split |
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| 08:43.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | they didnt either :p they just think we got disconnected :p |
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| 08:47.52 | DCUI | FF: Sorry got disconnected |
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| 08:48.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | DCUI: i dunno wuts wrong whit your addon sorry |
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| 08:48.57 | Dhraga_ | "#¤% ... :P |
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| 08:49.13 | Dhraga_ | FF: dcui here again :P |
| 08:49.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | DCUI: i dunno wuts wrong whit your addon sorry |
| 08:49.58 | Dhraga_ | FF: you already tried it ? |
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| 09:23.46 | Miravlix | Whats the top 10 honor in a week these days? |
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| 10:07.59 | Kirkburn | Reminder to you all - the wowwiki will be down for a while today |
| 10:08.14 | Kirkburn | Rustak should be upgrading it :) |
| 10:08.25 | Kirkburn | And now, I'm off out ... |
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| 10:44.26 | zespri | hi didn't seem to be liked in oz |
| 10:51.12 | Warla | http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/?id=1 <-- Spellbook finished :-) |
| 11:05.19 | vhaarr | Warla: Does not work in Firefox. |
| 11:05.39 | vhaarr | Advarsel: Expected ':' but found ';'. Declaration dropped. |
| 11:05.40 | vhaarr | Kildefil: http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/?id=1 |
| 11:05.42 | vhaarr | Linje: 0 |
| 11:05.52 | vhaarr | Advarsel: Expected declaration but found '5px'. Skipped to next declaration. |
| 11:05.53 | vhaarr | Kildefil: http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/?id=1 |
| 11:05.55 | vhaarr | Linje: 0 |
| 11:06.14 | vhaarr | Feil: syntax error |
| 11:06.16 | vhaarr | Kildefil: http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/tradeskill.php |
| 11:06.17 | vhaarr | Linje: 47, kolonne: 5 |
| 11:06.19 | vhaarr | Kildefil: |
| 11:06.21 | vhaarr | <br /> |
| 11:06.22 | vhaarr | Feil: syntax error |
| 11:06.24 | vhaarr | Kildefil: http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/?id=1 |
| 11:06.26 | vhaarr | Linje: 609, kolonne: 26 |
| 11:06.27 | vhaarr | Kildefil: |
| 11:06.29 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.30 | vhaarr | etc |
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| 11:21.49 | Warla | vhaarr i use firefox |
| 11:22.01 | Kirkburn | The spellbook looks odd in IE7 |
| 11:22.13 | vhaarr | Warla: This is 2.0beta2. |
| 11:22.17 | Kirkburn | Stuff is shifted right by about 50px |
| 11:22.22 | Warla | let me check in IE7 |
| 11:23.53 | Warla | ohh true |
| 11:23.55 | krka | omg is norwegian error messages? |
| 11:23.56 | Warla | i know why.. |
| 11:24.04 | krka | +that |
| 11:24.10 | Warla | stupid IE doesnt know what padding is lol |
| 11:24.37 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 11:24.39 | Kirov | I'm sure IE knows what padding is |
| 11:25.05 | Kirov | it's adding loops in to the code for no reason other than to use more CPU cycles to get people to upgrade their cpu |
| 11:25.14 | Kirkburn | I'm surprised there's a problem in IE7 though |
| 11:25.43 | Kirkburn | Apart from that, everything else looks perfect :O |
| 11:26.10 | Warla | heh thx |
| 11:26.19 | Warla | need to implement tooltips on spellbook |
| 11:26.52 | Warla | lol ya IE 7 is slow as hell |
| 11:26.59 | Kirkburn | I wish the Blizz site used tooltips liek yours |
| 11:27.03 | Kirkburn | *like |
| 11:27.29 | yacoob | "stupid IE" is redundancy |
| 11:27.34 | Warla | heh ya |
| 11:27.47 | Kirov | IdiotExplorer |
| 11:28.06 | Kirkburn | IE7 is great, but it just hasn't had the development time FF has had recently |
| 11:28.28 | Warla | i'm so glad we got rig of that shit for mac |
| 11:28.36 | yacoob | if you're referring to the vast, hm, diversity of things you can find on web, Kirov... then 'idiot' is also redundant :)) |
| 11:28.40 | Warla | microsofts decision to abandon IE for mac was a glorious da |
| 11:28.44 | Warla | day |
| 11:29.02 | Kirkburn | I fail to see the reasoning behind that |
| 11:29.48 | yacoob | "Mac is a niche... hm... let's pay someone for doing stuff for that irrevelant platform" |
| 11:29.52 | Warla | hoiw long did IE 5.5 --> 7 took? |
| 11:29.57 | Warla | like 5 years or something? |
| 11:30.01 | Kirkburn | Surely competition on Mac is something good |
| 11:30.02 | Warla | thats simply too slow |
| 11:30.29 | yacoob | they didn't care with win32, why would thing be different with mac? |
| 11:30.42 | Kirkburn | Okay now we're getting into silly territory |
| 11:31.01 | Kirkburn | IE6 to IE7 was about 5 years |
| 11:31.06 | Warla | lol ya |
| 11:31.31 | Kirov | IE6 was Win98 SP2, no? |
| 11:31.36 | Warla | yea kinda |
| 11:31.42 | Kirkburn | That wasn't the developers choice, that was the executives completely misunderstanding the market |
| 11:31.42 | Warla | Win98 normal was like 5.5 |
| 11:33.07 | Kirkburn | Version 6 was released on 27 August 2001, a few weeks before Windows XP |
| 11:33.25 | Kirkburn | (Version 5.5 followed in July 2000, improving its print preview capabilities, CSS and HTML standards support, and developer APIs; this version was bundled with Windows Me) |
| 11:34.28 | Warla | i remember when apple brought out Safari for mac... so fucken hilarous faster than Intersnail Explorer |
| 11:34.31 | Kirov | Me teh sux |
| 11:35.01 | Warla | Firefox though suxx for mac slow as hell too. For PC i use firefox fastest |
| 11:35.23 | Kirov | I saw Windows Me blue screen opening Notepad from a fresh install |
| 11:37.07 | Kirov | My mom was complaining about how her new computer was always having issues and she couldn't figure out why, so when my sister and I went to visit we booted up the computer, saw the Windows Me start up, turned off the computer and told her to spend the extra $100 to get XP |
| 11:37.40 | Warla | heh |
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| 11:56.05 | Warla | k spellbook works in stupid IE now |
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| 12:05.05 | GeoDaMancer | Wheeee! Hahahahahah! |
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| 12:11.18 | GeoDaMancer | Hola, Kirkle. |
| 12:12.22 | Kirkburn1 | Hola! |
| 12:12.38 | Kirkburn1 | Jebus, my DVD drive won't spin up CDs :/ |
| 12:12.42 | DarkImakuni | Yo dude |
| 12:13.30 | GeoDaMancer | Hells yeas! |
| 12:13.47 | GeoDaMancer | Now, if I could just figure out key bindings, I'd be set. : D |
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| 12:15.45 | Warla|school | howdy GeoDaMancer |
| 12:16.14 | Kirkburn | Oh, well _apparently_ DVDs aren't an issue for the drive. But CDs are ... |
| 12:16.29 | GeoDaMancer | Heyyas, Warla. |
| 12:16.38 | Kirkburn | Never mind the fact it's nigh-on incapable of playing DVD films :/ |
| 12:16.38 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah, my PS2 got like that. |
| 12:17.03 | GeoDaMancer | It wouldn't read CD verion discs, but'll read DVD-ROM. |
| 12:17.15 | Kirkburn | Last time I spoke to Dell they issued me it was a software issue |
| 12:17.20 | Kirkburn | *assured |
| 12:18.10 | Kirkburn | It sometimes works and sometimes doesn't, which doesn't sound like a software issue to me :/ |
| 12:18.45 | Kirkburn | bah |
| 12:19.00 | GeoDaMancer | My advice? If you trust yourself, take it apart. There's a little strip that links the crystal assembly to the rest, and that's probably dirty. Clean it, and it should work. |
| 12:19.55 | Kirkburn | I've got a high-powered can of air |
| 12:20.05 | GeoDaMancer | Doesn't work. |
| 12:20.51 | GeoDaMancer | >.> At least not when I've done it. The dirt and dust gets caked on so thick you have to use alcohol and a q-tip to wipe it off. xD |
| 12:21.02 | Kirkburn | It just doesn't even spin them up |
| 12:21.11 | Kirkburn | It's spins up DVDs, but not CDs |
| 12:22.01 | GeoDaMancer | That's because it won't spin if it doesn't read any intelligible data. |
| 12:22.23 | zespri | what is the lua function to get stack trace in WoW? |
| 12:22.38 | GeoDaMancer | stack trace? |
| 12:22.45 | zespri | yeap |
| 12:23.06 | GeoDaMancer | I wish I could help you, but I've got no clue what that even is. xD |
| 12:31.10 | zespri | found it |
| 12:33.29 | GeoDaMancer | What was it? |
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| 12:33.54 | GeoDaMancer | Welcome back, Koik. |
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| 12:35.04 | Kirkburn | Lo, just tried uninstalling the drive. No luck :/ |
| 12:35.34 | Kirkburn | It's a laptop drive, so I wouldn't know what to do with it :P |
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| 12:39.19 | GeoDaMancer | Get a replacement? |
| 12:43.00 | vhaarr | Anyone know how to save the entire combat log? |
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| 12:43.42 | GeoDaMancer | By catching each line, and feeding it into a file? |
| 12:43.55 | vhaarr | right, so WoW doesn't support it? |
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| 12:45.12 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.14 | GeoDaMancer | No idea. |
| 12:45.19 | GeoDaMancer | Hey, Borke. |
| 12:45.37 | |FF|Im2good4u | i can wrtie files in wow ui |
| 12:45.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | cant |
| 12:45.39 | GeoDaMancer | How many action bars does a warrior have total? |
| 12:46.53 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:47.37 | GeoDaMancer | Do you by chance know the answer to me question? |
| 12:48.23 | JoshBorke | not a clue :-) |
| 12:48.34 | JoshBorke | battle+defensive+berserker+normal? |
| 12:48.35 | GeoDaMancer | How about how many total bars a druid has? |
| 12:49.07 | GeoDaMancer | battle counts as the first... |
| 12:49.15 | JoshBorke | not a clue |
| 12:49.23 | JoshBorke | lol, i've played a paladin and a priest :-) |
| 12:49.42 | GeoDaMancer | And they don't have stances, right? |
| 12:50.39 | JoshBorke | priests have shadowform, but i don't think that changed buttons |
| 12:50.42 | GeoDaMancer | And od pet bars count. ~_~ |
| 12:51.22 | JoshBorke | paladins only have 1 pet bar that holds the different auras |
| 12:51.53 | GeoDaMancer | I'm writing a script, and it's seeming to give me odd answers. xD |
| 12:53.14 | GeoDaMancer | I think I broke my action bar. xD |
| 12:53.53 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 12:54.40 | GeoDaMancer | I'm trying to write something that works with the action bar, sort of. Or is its own action bar, but it keeps breaking down on me. xD |
| 12:59.31 | GeoDaMancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:00.45 | GeoDaMancer | Now I get it! |
| 13:01.21 | GeoDaMancer | Heheheheh! |
| 13:01.31 | wereHamster | a strange way to check if a number is pot: "if( !((temp->w & (temp->w-1))==0) )" |
| 13:01.45 | GeoDaMancer | is pot? |
| 13:02.00 | krka | power of two |
| 13:02.04 | wereHamster | power of two |
| 13:02.06 | krka | and that's a pretty common way to do it |
| 13:02.32 | wereHamster | what's wrong with "num%2 == 0" or "num&1" ? |
| 13:02.33 | GeoDaMancer | What programming language? |
| 13:02.48 | krka | that only checks if it's divisible by 2? |
| 13:03.00 | wereHamster | oh.. *me stupid* |
| 13:03.04 | krka | the way above is true for 2, 4, 8, 16, ... |
| 13:03.15 | krka | 0 and 1 too :P |
| 13:04.00 | JoshBorke | hrm, yea, what language is that? |
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| 13:05.21 | krka | looks like c |
| 13:06.49 | GeoDaMancer | Sort of looks like php too. <.< |
| 13:07.21 | krka | hm |
| 13:08.06 | wereHamster | it's C |
| 13:10.34 | GeoDaMancer | Alright then. |
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| 13:17.31 | JoshBorke | morning Cide |
| 13:17.42 | Cide | morning |
| 13:17.52 | GeoDaMancer | Shucks, doesn't work quite how I'd hoped. xD |
| 13:17.52 | JoshBorke | Cide: update CTRA on Wowinterface :_) |
| 13:18.02 | Cide | I don't for minor versions |
| 13:18.06 | Cide | I already stated that |
| 13:18.07 | JoshBorke | ah, i see |
| 13:18.11 | JoshBorke | i must have missed that, sorry :-( |
| 13:18.24 | Cide | no problem :) |
| 13:19.26 | GeoDaMancer | Wheee. |
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| 13:39.17 | Kirkburn1 | Lo, Mikk |
| 13:39.22 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 13:40.01 | Kirkburn1 | You always make me wonder if there's a telepathy channel I'm not logged into, Maldivia :P |
| 13:40.29 | yacoob | Yeah, god added that in patch 2.007.08... |
| 13:40.43 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: there is |
| 13:40.43 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 13:41.25 | Kirkburn1 | heh |
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| 13:51.21 | Maldivia | arghh |
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| 14:04.36 | GeoDaMancer | What's wrong Maldivia? |
| 14:05.04 | Maldivia | trying to find a bug, just to notice, that a constant that contained some values, actually was something else :| |
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| 14:07.33 | Maldivia | thought Double.MIN_VALUE was the min value, but it's the smallest positive value |
| 14:08.02 | Maldivia | screwed up some Math.max comparisons for negative numbers |
| 14:08.06 | krka | heh |
| 14:08.42 | Maldivia | thought it was compareable to MIN_VALUE in Integer, Long etc - but no, they ofcourse had to make Double different |
| 14:09.27 | GeoDaMancer | Heheheh. |
| 14:09.50 | GeoDaMancer | I hate caps. xD |
| 14:10.56 | Maldivia | so in essence, to get the smallest possible double, you have to do -Double.MAX_VALUE |
| 14:17.32 | GeoDaMancer | Is there a way to move items on the actionbar without using the PickupAction and PlaceAction functions? |
| 14:19.52 | JoshBorke | alright krka, how do i use GRAB :-P |
| 14:20.19 | krka | hm, i can try to find my setup code |
| 14:22.51 | krka | a found it |
| 14:22.53 | krka | gonna paste it |
| 14:23.28 | Hexarobee | On 4 September 2006, Irwin was fatally pierced in the chest by a stingray barb, while diving off Queensland's Great Barrier Reef. He had been filming a segment for his daughter Bindi's upcoming television series. |
| 14:24.00 | Hexarobee | RIP croc hunter |
| 14:24.03 | bindi | wtf |
| 14:24.07 | bindi | don't highlight me :D |
| 14:24.13 | cladhaire | lol |
| 14:24.14 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 14:24.35 | Hexarobee | u know that guy owned the queensland zoo? |
| 14:25.16 | Kirkburn | Sad, isn't it |
| 14:25.30 | krka | JoshBorke: http://pastey.net/600 |
| 14:25.40 | krka | that's a small example |
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| 14:26.04 | Mikma | cladhaire: for some reason 19 of 20 has green mouseover in pr2, and only 1 has white :) |
| 14:26.27 | cladhaire | Mikma: Were they all poisoneD? |
| 14:26.31 | cladhaire | cause thats the only time they change |
| 14:26.34 | zespri | GeoDaMancer, http://www.wowwiki.com/API_debugstack http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_trace |
| 14:26.39 | Mikma | cladhaire: yes they were |
| 14:27.01 | cladhaire | then that's why they were green |
| 14:27.12 | Mikma | yeah ok. love the work you have done so far |
| 14:27.52 | JoshBorke | krka: ah, i see, thanks |
| 14:28.45 | GeoDaMancer | Do you think that people would sacrifice 17 of their action bar slots for a bit of attacking automation? |
| 14:29.25 | krka | JoshBorke: i tried to make it easy to use from scripting |
| 14:29.37 | krka | but it should also be fairly useful for implementing a gui |
| 14:30.32 | JoshBorke | the action syntax is nice. might want to embed krkaUtils so that people have access to the nice functions :-) |
| 14:31.57 | krka | yeah |
| 14:32.05 | krka | i wrote krkaUtils before i learned about embedding |
| 14:32.21 | krka | feel free to do what you want with it |
| 14:32.25 | krka | that goes for anyone in here btw |
| 14:32.55 | krka | i like my lazy evaluation style, it proved to be efficient in game |
| 14:33.11 | krka | (just using events to nil variables) |
| 14:34.20 | GeoDaMancer | My mind goes Whir whir whir at your script, krka. |
| 14:34.23 | Laric | cladhaire wich is the latest version of perfectraid.. one of the branches? |
| 14:37.40 | JoshBorke | Ace2 version in branches |
| 14:38.29 | krka | GeoDaMancer: yeah, it's just my personal stuff, wasn't intended for educational purposes |
| 14:38.44 | krka | i try to write actual code properly |
| 14:39.04 | GeoDaMancer | I didn't think it was. |
| 14:39.18 | GeoDaMancer | addAction has me totally confused. It looks interesting though. xD |
| 14:39.19 | krka | feel free to come up with a better name for krkaUtils :) |
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| 14:40.01 | GeoDaMancer | krakanUtils? >.> |
| 14:40.18 | Mikma | cladhaire: reloading ui while in raid makes all members of raid to be greyd out in PR without having a way to make them "work" again |
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| 14:41.01 | krka | then again, name isn't that important if it's embedded - only devs would see that name |
| 14:41.20 | cladhaire | Mikma: Yes I know, that's an issue with proximity lib as far as I can tell. |
| 14:41.21 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 14:41.32 | Mikma | cladhaire: ok :) |
| 14:41.53 | Mikma | cladhaire: lol, entering and leaving combat =they work again :D |
| 14:41.55 | cladhaire | it'll magically start working at some point, thats the best I can tell you :P |
| 14:42.04 | cladhaire | oh, well there you go |
| 14:42.07 | Mikma | hehe |
| 14:42.18 | cladhaire | wonder why that is.. maybe it only starts looking when you first enter combat |
| 14:44.17 | Tain | I picked up a new Logitech MX Revolution mouse. It gets my stamp of approval. |
| 14:46.02 | Mikma | cladhaire: well the rangecheck looks simple and clean in the lua |
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| 14:56.56 | Mikma | clad|afk: well, you set the Highlight color to white at some point. then you set it to green if poisoned. but you don't set it to white again in any point |
| 14:57.47 | Mikma | clad|afk: i added 'this.Highlight:SetVertexColor(1, 1, 1)' to OnEnter and see what happens now |
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| 15:28.40 | donnie_rhodes | hi folks? |
| 15:28.48 | Kirkburn | Hullo |
| 15:29.42 | donnie_rhodes | level 21 undead warlock here. just getting into the battlegrounds system. im a little uncertain about a few things. like the honor system. and i read that you can loot enemy corpses on the battleground for money... |
| 15:30.43 | [Ammo] | yes you can loot for money |
| 15:30.46 | Kirkburn | I've barely played in BGs myself, so I can't answer accurately :P |
| 15:30.47 | [Ammo] | but it's not money that they loose |
| 15:30.51 | [Ammo] | it's just 'bonus' |
| 15:31.02 | Kirkburn | Magical money which appears when you die |
| 15:31.07 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 15:31.18 | [Ammo] | it's a few silver per corpse (at level 60A) |
| 15:31.30 | donnie_rhodes | so its proba good idea to hit the bank and clear your money in your bags before you enter a battleground, thats just weird because i died a few times and noone took any money off me |
| 15:31.38 | donnie_rhodes | oh ok. |
| 15:31.53 | Kirkburn | donnie_rhodes, the honor system will be changing completely very soon, so I wouldn't worry *too* much about how it works. BGs themselves won't change though, afaik |
| 15:31.57 | [Ammo] | you can't lose anything in WoW PvP |
| 15:32.06 | donnie_rhodes | cool |
| 15:32.28 | [Ammo] | unfortunately that also takes away some of the tension |
| 15:32.40 | [Ammo] | since there's no real drawback if you die |
| 15:33.00 | donnie_rhodes | what classes do you guys play? im just getting into the game and im not sure how to spec and equip my lock. all my friends have played a while and have lvl 60 killer chars, and i want to build a nice char to play with them |
| 15:33.16 | Maldivia | [Ammo]: you're rather prefer the EQ2 style, where you loose xp, gold and items ? |
| 15:35.15 | [Ammo] | maldivia: I have played MUDs for years |
| 15:35.17 | [Ammo] | pkill muds |
| 15:35.26 | Maldivia | Ok |
| 15:35.28 | [Ammo] | where you lose everything upon death (if your enemies loot your corpse) |
| 15:35.30 | Maldivia | well, same :9 |
| 15:35.31 | [Ammo] | I'm used to that |
| 15:35.47 | Maldivia | but muds are also "hardcore" |
| 15:35.52 | [Ammo] | donnie: I play a warlock |
| 15:36.09 | [Ammo] | I'm an affliction lock, for the easy solo grind, since it's my only level 60 character |
| 15:36.26 | [Ammo] | I suggest reading the forums, there's lots of good threads on levelling builds, endgame builds etc |
| 15:36.39 | [Ammo] | but most of all, chose a style that fits you |
| 15:36.43 | [Ammo] | I can't be a destro lock |
| 15:36.47 | Kirkburn | donnie_rhodes, the best I can say is: just enjoy the game :) |
| 15:36.53 | [Ammo] | although the burst damage is insane, I just can't play that way |
| 15:37.07 | [Ammo] | same reason I can't play a mage :) |
| 15:37.10 | [Ammo] | it's not my thing |
| 15:37.11 | Kirkburn | My main char is a lock, and I didn't worry at all about builds as I was levelling, because I didn't want to ahve the worry |
| 15:37.40 | [Ammo] | I put points in corruption first |
| 15:38.43 | Kirkburn | If you want to get your char to 60 in reasonable time, don't spend your time doing PvP :p |
| 15:38.44 | donnie_rhodes | Ammo: Whats the ;easy solo grind'? |
| 15:38.45 | [Ammo] | can't live iwthout instacorruption |
| 15:38.58 | Kirkburn | Voidwalker ftw for soloing |
| 15:38.58 | [Ammo] | donnie: that only works with decent gear at 60 |
| 15:39.17 | [Ammo] | Shadowmastery / Demonic Sacrifice build |
| 15:39.28 | [Ammo] | sac a voidwalker, gain 160 health/4 seconds |
| 15:39.35 | [Ammo] | and kill kill kill |
| 15:39.46 | Hexarobee | does the onload event of a frame only get called when the frame is shown for the first time? |
| 15:39.47 | [Ammo] | DoT up a full camp of satyrs in felwood |
| 15:39.49 | [Ammo] | and wait for them to die |
| 15:39.52 | Hexarobee | no cuz it gives me the loaded msg wtf |
| 15:39.56 | [Ammo] | Hexrobee: yes |
| 15:40.07 | [Ammo] | Hexrobee: and on reloadUI ofcourse |
| 15:40.23 | Hexarobee | no, it gets fired without the frame shown |
| 15:40.36 | Hexarobee | was thinking how someone could get one of my tables in thier savedvars as a nil |
| 15:40.51 | donnie_rhodes | yeah, ive jsut started using my vwalkers sacrifice. i only do it if im in trouble though and hes going to die anyways as well |
| 15:40.53 | Hexarobee | cuz i init it to an empty table onload, and then add and subtract from it as needed, but never nil it |
| 15:41.49 | donnie_rhodes | Hexarobee: are you talking about applecript? forgive my ignorance. just curious. |
| 15:42.30 | Kirkburn | Throughout my entire life from 1 to 60, I probably used sacrifice about ... hmm ... 3 times? |
| 15:42.49 | Kirkburn | I get too attached to them |
| 15:42.54 | [Ammo] | donnie: other sacirice :) |
| 15:42.56 | Kirkburn | (I'm a hunter at heart, it seems) |
| 15:43.03 | [Ammo] | donnie: the VW sac you use is the one that shields you |
| 15:43.41 | donnie_rhodes | i see |
| 15:44.24 | Kirkburn | Lol, my other PC needs 47 MS updates. 47. |
| 15:44.38 | Hexarobee | applescript? no im talking about Lua ;) |
| 15:44.53 | Kirkburn | Lua is the language of the WoW UI |
| 15:44.57 | Hexarobee | this is the wow-interface channel still right |
| 15:44.59 | Hexarobee | ? hehe |
| 15:45.06 | Hexarobee | maybe im on dalnet |
| 15:45.26 | Kirkburn | I'm on #themoon |
| 15:46.17 | Hexarobee | and im in the lounge for Way Our Weirdo's ipod lovers |
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| 15:50.31 | Kirkburn | 47 updates. I feel like I shouldn't have started updating it :P |
| 15:50.58 | Kirkburn | I only turned it on so I could get WC3 and NSFU2 off of it :/ |
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| 16:14.33 | Kirkburn | Reminder - it seems the wiki may have gone down for the planned upgrade |
| 16:15.10 | Kirkburn | If anyone sees posts about it on the forums, please do reply with the above =) |
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| 16:28.01 | Kirkburn1 | Yay, wowwiki is now being updated :D Check the message on the main page :) |
| 16:28.57 | Kirkburn1 | Ack, power switch time! |
| 16:32.02 | Kirkburn1 | Phew, made it |
| 16:32.31 | Kirkburn1 | (and it appears I'm typing this in the wrong window, so please disregard my last comment :P ) |
| 16:32.53 | subbawt | lol |
| 16:33.14 | subbawt | i'm glad you made it bro |
| 16:33.48 | Kirkburn1 | hehe |
| 16:34.02 | Kirkburn1 | There's never enough plugs around ... |
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| 16:36.55 | Kirkburn1 | For using ISOs what program is best? |
| 16:37.13 | Kirkburn1 | I've been using Alcohol, but it's taken a disliking to me :/ |
| 16:39.23 | wereHamster | demon tools |
| 16:39.23 | wereHamster | daemon tools |
| 16:41.58 | Kirkburn1 | It is freeware? I've always wondered |
| 16:42.24 | wereHamster | freeware, yes |
| 16:43.25 | Kirkburn1 | uber |
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| 17:01.34 | Kirkburn | Y'know, I think paying for WoW should give us access to Blizzard's back catalogue as a bonus ... |
| 17:02.16 | Kirkburn | But then, that'll never happen ... |
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| 17:14.31 | Esamynn | question, has anyone else noticed that AddOns you disable for all characters remain enabled for new characters? |
| 17:15.34 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 17:16.01 | Kirkburn | Wait, actually ... are you sure? |
| 17:16.15 | Esamynn | i'm just checking |
| 17:16.17 | Kirkburn | I tried a new char today and it seemed to keep the settings |
| 17:16.26 | Kirkburn | On a new server however, it wiped them |
| 17:17.20 | Esamynn | on a new server huh, no, I don't think that applies, just a sec |
| 17:17.50 | Esamynn | hmm, maybe it does |
| 17:17.59 | Esamynn | or maybe.... |
| 17:18.10 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 17:18.51 | Esamynn | see some addons still got disabled, so maybe its the accountwide AddOns.txt file that I still have lurking |
| 17:20.53 | Esamynn | yep, that's what it was |
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| 17:27.09 | Esamynn | Kirkburn: yes, what you said seems to be right, except that some of the addons still get disabled on a new character on a new server |
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| 17:27.17 | Kirkburn | weird |
| 17:27.21 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 17:28.33 | Cairenn | morning Iriel |
| 17:29.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | is there a way to get a reference to the table its parent table like a = { b = { d = function(e) return e+a.c end }, c = 5 } |||| a.b.d(1) to return 6 ?? |
| 17:29.56 | Mikk | tables don't really have a parent -> child relationship |
| 17:30.14 | Mikk | you can have dozens of variables pointing at the same "child" table |
| 17:30.22 | Mikk | so you have to put in a "parent" pointer yourself |
| 17:30.42 | Iriel | Morning |
| 17:31.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | so i can do a = { b = { a , d = func() end, }, c=5 } so i get a refence back to a inside table b ? |
| 17:31.33 | Esamynn | Iriel: have you seen the behaviour where addon on/off settings don't carry over correctly to new characters on a new server? |
| 17:32.01 | Hexarobee | or a = { b = { parent=a , d = func() end, }, c=5 } |
| 17:32.01 | krka | |FF|Im2good4u: not like that no |
| 17:32.32 | krka | a = { b = { d = func() end }, c = 5 } a.b.parent = a |
| 17:32.36 | krka | that would work |
| 17:32.38 | krka | kinda |
| 17:32.41 | Iriel | Esamynn : Is that just an outcome of the addon settings essentially being per character, even though they;'re managed as a global set? |
| 17:33.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah oke |
| 17:33.07 | Esamynn | it shouldn't be, new characters on a server you already have a character on get the settings correctly |
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| 17:58.10 | |FF|Im2good4u | MetaTables are fun they can prefent your addon from spamming a lot of attemp to call global nil errors :p |
| 18:01.37 | Shadowed | oh nice |
| 18:01.40 | Shadowed | we get use by name? |
| 18:12.36 | Kirkburn1 | Hmm, why can't I get WC3 to go higher than 1152x864 :( |
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| 18:29.44 | yacoob | some docs would be nice :) |
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| 18:35.49 | |FF|Im2good4u | yacoob: docs about wut ? |
| 18:36.46 | yacoob | Bongos. |
| 18:36.56 | [FF]Im2good4u | lol wuts that if i may ask ? |
| 18:37.09 | yacoob | Action bar addon. |
| 18:37.48 | yacoob | I see there's a place for custom scripts, and that could be The Place, but I need some examples, hm. |
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| 18:44.26 | Tuller | yeah, I need to do more stuff about that :) |
| 18:46.32 | yacoob | Tuller: aha! :D |
| 18:46.49 | yacoob | Tuller: a quick question then, can bongos provide me with things I want? Namely: |
| 18:47.15 | yacoob | 19:38 < yacoob> free button placement, doing things on stance/shapeshift/avilability of action |
| 18:47.34 | yacoob | ...and friendliness of target |
| 18:48.02 | yacoob | (desperatelly trying to ditch DAB :) |
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| 18:49.22 | Tuller | if you want single buttons, you can either do that by 120 bars, or make a bar have one button |
| 18:49.45 | Tem | greetings, Tuller |
| 18:49.53 | Tem | how long have you been in the lounge |
| 18:49.54 | Tem | ? |
| 18:49.55 | Tuller | hello |
| 18:50.11 | Tuller | not much todayish |
| 18:50.31 | yacoob | yup, this part I discovered. |
| 18:50.38 | Tem | I haven't seen you in here before |
| 18:50.46 | yacoob | however, the switching looks pretty cryptic :) |
| 18:50.49 | Tem | just wondering if it was maybe your first visit |
| 18:51.19 | Tuller | to the extent that I don't talk alot, yes |
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| 18:52.25 | Tem | Tuller, aaah. Well, Welcome |
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| 18:52.33 | Maldivia | arghh |
| 18:52.40 | Tem | ewwww it's a gnome |
| 18:52.54 | Tuller | stance switching - the first actionbar does it automatically, extending it to multiple actionbars requires scripting. I should have an example of it in my scripting thread on wowinterface's forums |
| 18:52.55 | Tem | Maldivia, why'd you have to play a gross gnome? |
| 18:53.00 | Cairenn | Tuller: hi :) |
| 18:53.07 | Tuller | hello |
| 18:53.13 | Maldivia | Cairenn: well, I'm here - and my other client is here aswell still |
| 18:53.22 | Maldivia | Tem: you liked my human avatar better ? |
| 18:53.35 | Tem | didn't see the human one |
| 18:53.43 | Tem | I didn't notice avatars at all in the old forums |
| 18:53.45 | yacoob | Tuller: grand, I'll look at it. |
| 18:53.50 | Tem | the new ones sort thrust them at me |
| 18:53.57 | Tem | s/sort/sorta/ |
| 18:54.04 | Mikma | and to here too, if anyone is interested: http://wow.reaktio.net/mu.jpg |
| 18:54.25 | Tem | another gnome |
| 18:54.28 | Tem | you people are gross |
| 18:54.47 | Tem | Mikma, so, what is that you're working on? |
| 18:55.04 | Mikma | Tem: the Bar1 layout, maia's Mockup :) |
| 18:55.17 | Tem | haven't seen it |
| 18:55.27 | Mikma | oh ok, there you go then :) |
| 18:55.28 | Tem | the last 14 days sorta kicked my ass |
| 18:55.45 | Tem | thankfully I've got today off |
| 18:58.29 | yacoob | Tuller: ha! I think I'll do what I need! |
| 18:58.49 | Tuller | hurray :) |
| 19:00.08 | yacoob | and I'll weed therefore last discord mod out! |
| 19:01.10 | Kaso | Can you switch from enUS to enGB without any fiddling or whatcha need to do |
| 19:01.12 | yacoob | great, wowwiki is down. |
| 19:01.32 | Iriel | Yeah, it's down for maintainence and upgrade |
| 19:01.34 | Cairenn | yup, was announced last week, will be down for part of the day for soft & hard ware updates |
| 19:01.36 | Tem | yacoob, yeah, as I understand it, it's getting an upgrade atm |
| 19:01.50 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:01.51 | Tem | and half the lounge beats me to the punch |
| 19:02.07 | Cairenn | not that folks around here pay attention to things like that or anything ;) |
| 19:02.15 | yacoob | Or just google, hm. |
| 19:02.21 | Tem | typical of Iriel to read my thoughts, but Cairenn too? |
| 19:02.48 | Cairenn | just because I don't normally comment on your thoughts, Tem, doesn't mean I don't read them ;) |
| 19:02.55 | yacoob | Tuller: one important thing: is there any addon firing on action becoming available? I want bars to switch on 'auto-shoot' action becoming in-range for hunter...? |
| 19:02.57 | Tem | d'oh |
| 19:03.29 | Iriel | You have to poll the range check with OnUpdate |
| 19:03.42 | yacoob | ah, this is not good :/ |
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| 19:04.03 | Tuller | yeah that's one of the things I need to write a plugin for |
| 19:04.39 | yacoob | *does sweet puppy eyes* |
| 19:05.15 | Tuller | there's also a mod to do it somewhere, I think |
| 19:05.30 | yacoob | remember the name? |
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| 19:08.09 | yacoob | hm, I can basically steal the code from redrange... |
| 19:08.32 | clad|afk | Legorol: zomg i go to england on thursday. |
| 19:09.00 | Legorol | that's great cladhaire, it's the trip you mentioned, right? |
| 19:09.16 | cladhaire | Legorol: Yeah, hoping to rub noses for funding, and meet some people =) |
| 19:10.55 | cladhaire | Legorol: This is a stupid questino, but a banquet in Canterbury Cathedral is a "wear a suit" event, right? |
| 19:11.53 | Legorol | yes i'd think so |
| 19:12.09 | cladhaire | that was my thought =) |
| 19:12.16 | Legorol | besides, showing up in a suit won't make you look like an idiot, even if it's informal |
| 19:12.21 | Legorol | whereas the other way around.. |
| 19:12.30 | cladhaire | very true :P |
| 19:12.33 | cladhaire | that was really my plan |
| 19:12.36 | Mikk | aye. with a suit you can take off the jacket and the tie and roll up your shirt sleeves, worst case |
| 19:12.47 | Legorol | wouldn't go for the dinner jacket though ;-) |
| 19:13.21 | cladhaire | hehe i dont even own a dinner jacket |
| 19:18.10 | Tuller | Range Switch looks like the right mod |
| 19:20.30 | yacoob | Tuller: thanks |
| 19:20.59 | yacoob | one more thing, the mouse_is_over is still not there? |
| 19:21.17 | yacoob | or perhaps it could be emulated? |
| 19:22.04 | Tuller | I have to hardcode that one, I think |
| 19:22.23 | Tuller | since I have to mess around with OnEnter |
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| 19:24.30 | yacoob | hm, I'm missing something. |
| 19:24.52 | Tuller | fairydust? |
| 19:24.53 | yacoob | why cannot I find 'OnUpdate' and such on http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_%28Full_List%29 ? |
| 19:25.42 | Mikma | "WoWWiki is temporarily unavailable." :) |
| 19:26.27 | yacoob | fine, make it: http://42.pl/u/lpf |
| 19:26.36 | Iriel | Because it's a frame handler, not an event |
| 19:26.38 | Kirkburn | The wiki is being upgraded :) |
| 19:27.01 | Mikk | you want http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers |
| 19:27.37 | yacoob | please bear in mind that I'm not familiar with wow's events, and I'm groping at it only in context of bongos :) |
| 19:28.38 | Tuller | You can only do event stuff with Bongos right now |
| 19:29.17 | yacoob | Ah... I was hoping of stealing the code from range switch and adapt it for bongos. |
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| 19:30.02 | yacoob | so, as for me, two things missing: range checking and mouseover. |
| 19:30.02 | Iriel | Chances are you could use OnUpdate code, and then fake a call to the Bongos event handler whenever there's a state transition |
| 19:30.14 | Tuller | yeah that would be what I'm going to do :) |
| 19:30.47 | yacoob | Iriel: chances are, me doing this without deeper knowledge of what I'm doing will result in overflows, dead loops and overall borkage :D |
| 19:31.01 | yacoob | Tuller: don't you feel like coding some plugins then? Hmmm? :D |
| 19:31.12 | Kirkburn | Wow, the action key spel thing is awesome |
| 19:33.16 | Tuller | I'm planning on either writing something to add the hunter range events, a hunter plugin, or both. And what action key spell thing? |
| 19:35.03 | Kirkburn | Oh my ... Watch this and see your jaw drop (it's about the Net Neutrality thing) ... http://www.ncta.com/ContentView.aspx?ContentID=3526 |
| 19:35.23 | Tuller | I saw that one on tv |
| 19:35.31 | Kirkburn | I'm shocked |
| 19:36.31 | Kirkburn | You know what's more annoying ... it's one country deciding how the entire world's internet goes forward |
| 19:37.35 | Iriel | I think it's more the corporations than the country |
| 19:37.43 | Iriel | But only one country really has the legal clout to stop them |
| 19:37.59 | yacoob | Tuller: ...tonight, by any chance? :) |
| 19:38.35 | Kirkburn | Iriel, yeah that's what I was meaning |
| 19:39.25 | Kirkburn | I didn't mean it as anything against americans, just the frustration that me and millions of others will have to put up with whatever is done |
| 19:39.42 | Mikk | as if americans can control what appears on the net in e.g. sweden ... |
| 19:39.59 | Kirkburn | No, but much of the backbone is there :/ |
| 19:40.14 | Mikk | contrary to public belief, not the entire internet is routed through the US |
| 19:40.52 | Mikk | they're not even sitting on the root DNS servers anymore |
| 19:41.21 | Mikk | (and even if they did, all they could do is turn access on and off for entire top domains, e.g. ".se") |
| 19:41.29 | Kirkburn | I still don't like it :) |
| 19:41.39 | Mikk | well, no, neither do i |
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| 19:56.21 | Iriel | Hm? |
| 19:56.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I removed ALL of my addons, and did a bit of command line WoW scripting |
| 19:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | TOPRIGHT of UIParent or nil is nothing close to the physical TOPRIGHT of my screen |
| 19:57.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Same goes for TOPLEFT, BOTTOMRIGHT, and BOTTOMLEFT |
| 19:57.21 | Hexarobee | if the cable company made an ad saying its bad for me, im all for it! |
| 19:57.34 | Iriel | Which frame did you use to test with? |
| 19:57.42 | ScytheBlade1 | MinimapCluster |
| 19:57.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Just did SetMovable(1) and StartMoving() |
| 19:58.38 | Tem | make your own frame |
| 19:58.46 | Tem | minimapcluster is probably decieving you |
| 19:58.58 | Tem | (that or your UIParent is resized) |
| 19:59.37 | Industrial` | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2104 |
| 19:59.37 | Industrial` | \o/ |
| 20:01.27 | Iriel | Okay, do this before you do much else |
| 20:01.32 | yacoob | <_o/~ |
| 20:01.54 | Iriel | Try /script T=MinimapCluster:CreateTexture(); T:SetTexture(0.6,0,0);T:SetAlpha(0.5);T:SetAllPoints(MinimapCluster) |
| 20:02.13 | Tem | that works too |
| 20:03.00 | Iriel | When I do /dump M:GetTop() * M:GetEffectiveScale() I get the expected result |
| 20:03.02 | Iriel | ditto with GetRight |
| 20:03.09 | Iriel | M is an alias for MinimapCluster because I'm lazy |
| 20:03.41 | Iriel | Same if I do that test with UIParent instead of MinimapCluster |
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| 20:42.32 | yacoob | Tuller: ping. |
| 20:42.46 | Tuller | ? |
| 20:42.50 | yacoob | Tuller: is switching on bar1 hardcoded? |
| 20:42.58 | yacoob | I turned it off, yet it switches on stealth. |
| 20:43.06 | Tuller | yes and no |
| 20:43.39 | yacoob | I'm all ears. |
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| 20:44.21 | Tuller | you should be able to disable it via making a script that just has the action return; on the event UPDATE_BONUS_ACTIONBAR for bar1 |
| 20:44.43 | Tuller | I really need to make it transparent |
| 20:44.53 | yacoob | that will do. But don't you think it's a bit illogical, to have it turned OFF in config and still working? :D |
| 20:45.09 | Tuller | its not actually turned off, you turned off paging :) |
| 20:45.16 | Tuller | that's the shift + number thing |
| 20:45.27 | yacoob | what's context tab then for? |
| 20:45.53 | yacoob | I thought that paging means 'could this bar have >1 page' and context means 'does this bar autoswitch?' |
| 20:46.36 | Corrodias | zenzelezz: the reason i would expect the "number of action bars" variable to return 10 is because there are 10 action bars available |
| 20:47.09 | Corrodias | many addon authors seem to be unaware of this, however |
| 20:47.11 | Tuller | context is for switching if the target is friendly/enemy |
| 20:47.16 | yacoob | (and I disabled it that way you described, good) |
| 20:47.20 | yacoob | Tuller: ahh, OK. |
| 20:47.49 | Corrodias | what addon are you guys talking about? |
| 20:47.58 | yacoob | Bongos. |
| 20:48.02 | yacoob | The DAB killer |
| 20:49.09 | Corrodias | ah, yes... i am not convinced that i can have a better button layout than i have now with the default, so i've not gotten an addon for it, yet |
| 20:49.28 | Kirov | Corrodias - well, depending on if it uses blizzard's bar code, there could be only 6 bars, or 10 if not |
| 20:49.54 | Kirov | Corrodias - well, I guess 7 bars with the default UI. |
| 20:50.09 | Kirov | *thinks* |
| 20:50.10 | Kirov | 8 |
| 20:50.22 | Kirov | ok, so 8 available bars using Blizzard's code, 10 if not |
| 20:50.42 | Corrodias | not 9? |
| 20:51.09 | Corrodias | "WoWWiki is temporarily down for some hardware and software upgrades." is the result of my attempt to gain further information |
| 20:51.20 | Kirov | Rogues use 1-7, Druids use 1-7+9, Warriors use 2-9 |
| 20:51.31 | Tuller | I'm pretty sure there's 60 buttons total |
| 20:51.39 | Corrodias | so it seems that 9 is available using default code |
| 20:51.43 | Corrodias | *should be |
| 20:51.56 | Kirov | Corrdias - Only as a warrior or druid |
| 20:52.07 | Corrodias | why do you say that warriors don't use bar 1? i thought everyone uses 1-6 |
| 20:52.18 | Kirov | Warriors' default bar 1 is actually bar 7. Warriors never see bar 1 |
| 20:52.32 | Corrodias | interesting. i wonder why that is. |
| 20:52.38 | Kirov | Warriors have one bar for each major stance, and they're always in a stance. |
| 20:52.39 | yacoob | Tuller: another gotcha: I choose 10x12 layout, and shortened one bar to 6 buttons |
| 20:52.54 | Corrodias | i believe i modified rangehelp to switch to bar 7 on my hunter when within melee range. it works. |
| 20:53.05 | yacoob | Tuller: will paging on that switch to next bar, or next (invisible) 6 buttons of the same bar? |
| 20:53.21 | Corrodias | i should see if it lets me switch to any bar, but then that would just prove that it's probably using its own method of doing so |
| 20:53.48 | Kirov | Corrodias - by altering the bar return, that switch can go to any of the 10 bars. |
| 20:53.59 | Kirov | I think you can even set it to 11, just nothing will show up. |
| 20:54.01 | Tuller | should be the next 6 |
| 20:54.04 | Kirov | might error though |
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| 20:55.35 | yacoob | Tuller: righto. |
| 20:55.53 | Iriel | Corrodias : It (wowwiki) is down so they can update to the latest version of mediawiki and upgrade the processor on the host, IIRC. |
| 20:56.18 | Corrodias | nifty |
| 20:56.44 | Kirov | by altering the return of GetBonusBarOffset(), you can make the main bar do anthing |
| 20:57.52 | Corrodias | i want it to dance~ |
| 20:58.22 | Tuller | if you go past 120 buttons, you'll get funky results |
| 20:59.21 | Corrodias | my action bar just turned into a NE and it's killing me, arggh |
| 21:00.32 | [FF]Im2good4u | Owned |
| 21:00.36 | [FF]Im2good4u | NE male ? |
| 21:00.48 | yacoob | Gaaa. And how about 10buttons wide bar, trimmed to 6, will it page to 4 buttons from this bar + 2 from next? :) |
| 21:01.25 | Tuller | a 6 button bar will go to the next 6 buttons, a 5 the next five, etc |
| 21:01.36 | Tuller | at least, that's how it should work |
| 21:01.49 | yacoob | Mhm, so it's basically all about buttons. Allrighyt. |
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| 21:02.38 | yacoob | so there are no DAB-like floaters as it is, only bars trimmed to one button? |
| 21:03.30 | Tuller | right |
| 21:03.45 | yacoob | This is a minor nuissance, but it won't hinder usability. |
| 21:03.54 | Maldivia | uhh... priest taletns... |
| 21:03.54 | yacoob | Only the setup will be a bit weird, but hehe :) |
| 21:04.40 | Kirov | what's that function to update the bar display? |
| 21:04.55 | yacoob | Tuller: my setup is like this: one 10button bar, switchable upon various things (depends on class), one constant 10button, one 6button bar, switchable, 2bar button constant, and trinketmenu to fill it up |
| 21:05.13 | yacoob | http://hell.pl/yacoob/sakwa/gfx/wow/ui/_thumbs/2006-09-03.two.png.html - a picture says more than words |
| 21:05.46 | yacoob | top-to bottom: autobar, first bar, second, third+fourth+trinketmenu |
| 21:06.22 | yacoob | plus a little bar showing on mouseover for macros (well... would have to live without hiding it), plus stealth floater to show cooldown. |
| 21:06.23 | Corrodias | only 35 visible buttons... argh |
| 21:06.32 | yacoob | Corrodias: ? |
| 21:06.40 | Maldivia | baah, *sob* |
| 21:06.46 | Corrodias | i look at the image, and i see 35 buttons. |
| 21:06.52 | yacoob | too many? |
| 21:07.02 | Corrodias | too few, i'd think, but meh |
| 21:07.19 | yacoob | Tuller: and I think I'll be able to recreate that in Bongos, for my rogue, warlock, and priest. Hunter will need to get some loving :) |
| 21:07.27 | Corrodias | i probably waste a bunch of space on mine, but i like to group similar actions together |
| 21:11.05 | Tuller | working on hunter paging stuff |
| 21:11.24 | yacoob | goood :) *cheers* |
| 21:11.45 | yacoob | ...and what is *really* interesting right now, that I don't see keybindings for buttons1 to 10...? :D |
| 21:12.18 | Corrodias | WOW FASCINATING |
| 21:12.37 | yacoob | allright, shutting myself up :P |
| 21:17.13 | Kirov | Iriel - you're working today? |
| 21:17.18 | Kaso | is it possible to turn the enUS to enGB so you can use it with a EU account |
| 21:18.01 | Corrodias | i'd need a complete installation of an enGB version to figure out the differences |
| 21:18.20 | Kirov | color vs. colour? |
| 21:18.34 | Kirov | (didn't realize Blizzard had a enGB version) |
| 21:18.35 | Corrodias | differences in the files |
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| 21:19.03 | Kirov | MentalPower - itemizer done? |
| 21:19.12 | MentalPower | haha, no |
| 21:19.14 | MentalPower | close tho |
| 21:19.23 | Kirov | ... |
| 21:19.30 | Kirov | now? |
| 21:20.11 | MentalPower | lol |
| 21:20.46 | MentalPower | I've been busy with Auctioneer (I jump projects a lot so I don't en up hating one or the other) |
| 21:22.05 | Kirov | what's being done to auctioneer? |
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| 21:22.43 | MentalPower | some minor features people have been asking for |
| 21:23.39 | Maldivia | is it just me, or is the sorting on the forums bugged? |
| 21:25.18 | Maldivia | ohh, lol |
| 21:25.24 | Kirov | MentalPower - also, did you make Itemizer intentionally ugly? >.< |
| 21:25.34 | Maldivia | is defaults to "latest reply" in ascending order :) |
| 21:25.44 | MentalPower | hehe, you're not the first that complains about the UI |
| 21:26.09 | MentalPower | my current plans are to finish the currently loking one and then design one closer to the WoW theme |
| 21:26.11 | krka | function deepSet(t, v, k1, k2, ...) if k2 == nil then t[k1] = v return end if t[k1] == nil then t[k1] = {} end return deepSet(t[k1], v, k2, ...) end |
| 21:26.14 | krka | just for fun |
| 21:26.32 | krka | damn, wrong channel |
| 21:27.01 | Kirov | MentalPower - so, scare away all the potential users early, eh/ |
| 21:27.27 | MentalPower | well, they will prolly both ship at release |
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| 21:49.54 | cladhaire | I can't believe we're already at 11000 commits. |
| 21:49.55 | cladhaire | that's sick. |
| 21:49.59 | JoshBorke | psp |
| 21:50.00 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 21:50.14 | JoshBorke | at my work, we'v got something like 18k commits |
| 21:51.45 | cladhaire | yeah.. but a work environment and the bullshit we do are drastically diffferent =) |
| 21:53.02 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 21:54.34 | Cide | off to bed, night everyone |
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| 21:56.14 | Kirkburn | You seem to be going through nearly 200 commits a day |
| 21:56.26 | Kirkburn | It's great to see how active it is :) |
| 22:00.27 | cladhaire | its 6pm. I can farm some more crypt fiend parts.. and then zip Clique and finish up some stuff with PR |
| 22:01.10 | cladhaire | then go to bed |
| 22:02.07 | Kirkburn | At 4am |
| 22:02.36 | cladhaire | neg, have work tomorrow |
| 22:02.49 | cladhaire | and have to get stuff done, since i go to the UK on thursday |
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| 22:23.46 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, where in the UK? |
| 22:24.23 | cladhaire | Canterbury, University of Kent |
| 22:24.32 | cladhaire | I get into Heathrow 10:30am Friday |
| 22:25.15 | yacoob | Right, I'll ask here too. Is there a way to catch end of a cooldown of a specific action? |
| 22:25.37 | yacoob | (apart from blindly hooking ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_COOLDOWN) |
| 22:25.44 | Kirkburn | Ah, not too near me then ... I'm north of london |
| 22:26.07 | cladhaire | I'd like to make it up to Coventry, but I won't have time. |
| 22:27.39 | Kaso | yacoob OnUpdate checks |
| 22:27.54 | yacoob | Kaso: no way to do it passie? :/ |
| 22:28.04 | yacoob | passive, I mean? |
| 22:28.12 | Kaso | dunno i cant think of any event of the top of my head |
| 22:28.58 | Kaso | damn wiki being down! |
| 22:29.31 | yacoob | Kaso: 42.pl/u/lpf :) |
| 22:30.02 | Kaso | im sorry? |
| 22:31.29 | yacoob | it's a list of events from wowwiki, taken out of google cache. I've been through it and I found only ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_COOLDOWN. Perhaps you'd have any suggestion? :D |
| 22:31.41 | Gryphen | wiki is up for me :o |
| 22:32.14 | Kaso | Praise the lord! |
| 22:33.06 | yacoob | mmm, good. |
| 22:35.13 | Kaso | yah it seems that actionbar or onupdate are the only ways |
| 22:36.11 | yacoob | *sighs* |
| 22:36.40 | yacoob | crappy way, I still need this action location on actionbar |
| 22:39.55 | yacoob | heh, GetSpellCooldown is also unreliable, because spells shift in spellbook |
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| 22:40.01 | yacoob | who thought up this cranky API? :D |
| 22:40.19 | Kaso | yacoob you can just watch the spellbook changed event |
| 22:40.39 | Tem|AFK | spells don't change that much |
| 22:40.43 | Tem|AFK | so it's not a huge deal |
| 22:41.13 | yacoob | the thing is I'd like it to be as much failsafe as it could be, with minimum lines of code |
| 22:41.25 | Tem | right right |
| 22:41.27 | yacoob | to ensure there are few things that could break on patch |
| 22:41.38 | yacoob | it's only a bongos condition... 8) |
| 22:43.47 | yacoob | ha! getshapeshiftformcooldown :) |
| 22:43.55 | yacoob | (it just happens for the action to be stealth) |
| 22:45.14 | jaxdahl | cladhaire, in your latest commit you say you added initial support for showing your selected target |
| 22:45.37 | jaxdahl | if it was implemented, i'm not seeing it show up |
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| 22:47.55 | Kirkburn | The wowiki is back! |
| 22:48.06 | Gryphen | [15:32:28] <Gryphen> wiki is up for me :o |
| 22:48.11 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:50.18 | yacoob | haha, the function isn't Working As Intended [tm] |
| 22:50.22 | yacoob | *bangs head on wall* |
| 22:50.51 | Kaso | which? |
| 22:51.34 | yacoob | GetShapeshiftFormCooldown |
| 22:52.09 | AnduinLothar | Mikk: ping |
| 22:55.20 | Kaso | it returns the time the cooldown started, not the time left on the cooldown |
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| 22:56.03 | Kaso | it'll be 0 if no cooldown then GetTime() - {amount of time since you used spell} if there is a cooldown |
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| 22:56.22 | Kaso | and man thats a crappy wiki page, i should fix that |
| 22:58.30 | yacoob | Ahem. Just made wow crash. |
| 22:58.49 | yacoob | And of course I didn't make reloadui, so all bongos settings lost :E |
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| 23:04.49 | Kirkburn | The wiki is damn speedy now for intensive pages:) |
| 23:14.23 | Tuller | so ranged event: melee, ranged, unusable |
| 23:14.30 | Tuller | am I missing anything? |
| 23:15.39 | yacoob | I think it's OK. |
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| 23:30.16 | Corrodias | can someone post a bug report post on wowi.com for me? |
| 23:33.34 | Cairenn | Corrodias: huh? |
| 23:45.03 | Corrodias | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5247 |
| 23:45.17 | Corrodias | when there's too much text in the buffer, it only shows a small amount of it and ends with "..." |
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| 23:45.45 | Kirkburn | Yes, but why can't you do it? |
| 23:46.02 | Corrodias | because i don't like registering for things that i only ever make one or two posts on :/ |
| 23:48.29 | Kirov | Corrodias - That's a known wow issues |
| 23:48.30 | Kirov | er, issue |
| 23:48.47 | Kirov | They reduced the max length of font strings considerably in this last patch |
| 23:49.13 | Corrodias | hmm. i guess i'll just reduce the number of lines visible even farther |
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| 23:56.54 | Kirkburn | Egad, the wiki is up and down like a << naughty word \o/ >>'s knickers |
