irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20060903

`00:04.22`	`Cide`	`uh oh`
`00:04.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hehe, it's nothing`
`00:04.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`What is the variable name for the target management people? MT1, MT2, etc.?`
`00:04.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`CT_RA_???????/`
`00:05.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`s@/@?@`
`00:05.12`	`Cide`	`uh`
`00:05.14`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hmm, ibot doesn't like that syntax`
`00:05.46`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That's not a very good "uh" ;)`
`00:06.32`	`Cide`	`depends on if you want the /tm or the main tanks table`
`00:07.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Well, the thing on my screen is labeled "MT Targets"`
`00:07.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Those ;)`
`00:08.05`	`Cide`	`CT_RA_MainTanks`
`00:08.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`0-based or 1-based?`
`00:09.10`	`Cide`	`1`
`00:09.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`ty :)`
`00:10.25`	`Refuse`	`yacoob ya I was planning on changing the UF`
`00:10.27`	`Refuse`	`unit frames`
`00:10.31`	`Refuse`	`just dont know what program to use`
`00:10.36`	`Refuse`	`Duf can be memory extensive`
`00:11.23`	`yacoob`	`And it usually is.`
`00:11.34`	`yacoob`	`Perl Classic is nice. Just installed agUF, also neat.`
`00:11.43`	`yacoob`	`Can't really tell about others.`
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`00:16.41`	`Fuimmerd`	`;o`
`00:18.20`	`vhaarr`	`Are there any way of catching when you get promoted in a raid group?`
`00:18.36`	`vhaarr`	`s/Are/Is/, maybe.`
`00:18.38`	`cladhaire`	`you can grab the chat message`
`00:18.53`	`vhaarr`	`CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM?`
`00:19.06`	`vhaarr`	`I didn't know there was a message for promotion.`
`00:19.15`	`vhaarr`	`Ah, "You are now the raid leader." or something.`
`00:19.17`	`cladhaire`	`"You are now the group leader"`
`00:19.22`	`vhaarr`	`yeah`
`00:19.32`	`vhaarr`	`Well, that doesn't catch promotion, just group leader status.`
`00:20.02`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: thanks`
`00:20.03`	`Fuimmerd`	`anyones know where I can get custom skins for control boxes?`
`00:20.19`	`cladhaire`	`vhaarr: RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE will fire`
`00:20.30`	`cladhaire`	`and you can then just check if you're promoted at that point, should be relatively cheap`
`00:20.41`	`vhaarr`	`oh`
`00:21.05`	`vhaarr`	`"Fired whenever a raid is formed or disbanded, players are leaving or joining a raid (unsure if rejected join requests also fire the event), or when looting rules are changed (regardless of being in raid or party!) "`
`00:21.09`	`vhaarr`	`According to wowwiki.`
`00:21.27`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: Maybe you could update that?`
`00:21.36`	`Fuimmerd`	`<Fuimmerd> anyones know where I can get custom skins for control boxes? ;'(`
`00:21.38`	`cladhaire`	`yes, but something fires, and I belivee its that.. something has to trigger the (A) in the raid social frame`
`00:22.12`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED should also be updated.`
`00:22.21`	`cladhaire`	`feel free to update them then`
`00:22.24`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: From what I have seen, the args are always nil on it.`
`00:22.29`	`cladhaire`	`anyone logged in has access`
`00:22.41`	`vhaarr`	`I don't have an account.`
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`00:24.33`	`cladhaire`	`Make one =)`
`00:24.36`	`cladhaire`	`its just a matter of registering.`
`00:25.30`	`vhaarr`	`I'd rather not be responsible for that information, too many people use it.`
`00:25.58`	`cladhaire`	`well you'r ethe one who has the informatino =)`
`00:26.05`	`cladhaire`	`doesn't make sense for me to update something that you looked at :P`
`00:36.36`	`Refuse`	`what's agUF`
`00:36.40`	`JoshBorke`	`wow`
`00:36.45`	`JoshBorke`	`i just jumped through the MC window into the lava`
`00:36.48`	`JoshBorke`	`while dead...`
`00:37.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Lag will do that`
`00:37.40`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Also, instead of jumping off and going through the window`
`00:38.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Turn right instead of jumping off, jump off to your right, then swim (dead) underneath the MC window`
`00:38.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It'll go so much faster`
`00:38.18`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, i meant to jump off the right side`
`00:39.30`	`chuckg`	`So if I don't have a lua file and I'm not using a library to register my events ..`
`00:39.36`	`Refuse`	`anyone here know where I can get agUF, cannot find it in wowinterface or ui.worldofwar`
`00:39.37`	`chuckg`	`Do I just create a simple frame then SetScript it?`
`00:39.53`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`oh man`
`00:39.54`	`chuckg`	`http://svn.wowace.com/files/`
`00:40.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`did auctioneer just make a noise from the cinematic movie after a scan?`
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`00:47.24`	`*** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ`
`00:48.54`	`cladhaire`	`Heyas Iriel`
`00:49.12`	`Iriel`	`Hi again`
`00:49.34`	`Iriel`	`I return with much shorter hair`
`00:49.37`	`Iriel`	`and groceries`
`00:49.47`	`Iriel`	`that is 'with groceries' not 'with shorter groceries'`
`00:50.03`	`zenzelezz`	`damnit, I was just typing a joke about that >:(`
`00:50.21`	`Iriel`	`speculative joke diffusion`
`00:51.16`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
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`01:00.32`	`vhaarr`	`Anyone have a nice way to find the deDE names of mobs when you know the enUS name?`
`01:00.39`	`vhaarr`	`Or other locales.`
`01:00.52`	`vhaarr`	`Like can I look that up on thottbot somehow?`
`01:03.07`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: You wrote Babble, you should know? :)`
`01:03.18`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`01:03.35`	`ckknight`	`um.`
`01:03.43`	`ckknight`	`wowguru`
`01:07.09`	`vhaarr`	`gah, maybe they removed that feature.`
`01:08.02`	`Cairenn`	`kergoth: you around?`
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`01:43.35`	`JoshBorke`	`do we know of any real artifact information?`
`01:44.26`	`End`	`don't think so`
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`02:03.35`	`eCladhair`	`sorry for the spam.`
`02:03.37`	`eCladhair`	`ok, so i lie.`
`02:04.43`	`Miravlix`	`Baah, I've been a C programmer to long, few days of not writing lua and I start using C syntax again`
`02:05.38`	`zenzelezz`	`hehe`
`02:06.38`	`zenzelezz`	`"unexpected token near {" or something like that?`
`02:06.53`	`Miravlix`	`it was if something \|\| something then`
`02:07.04`	`zenzelezz`	`ah :)`
`02:08.04`	`zenzelezz`	`I never completely like \| and \|\|... after I spent a few hours detecting that I used the wrong one when setting file opening flags`
`02:12.47`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`02:28.20`	`Kirkburn`	`This is awesome - ever wondered what 1,000 cars going around Trackmania looks like? Like thus: http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=12321`
`02:29.00`	`Hexarobi`	`hehe trackmania`
`02:29.43`	`cladhaire`	`holy shit thats cool`
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`02:30.03`	`Kirkburn`	`cladhaire, you say that to every link I post :P`
`02:30.22`	`Kirkburn`	`Doesn't make it not true tho =)`
`02:30.29`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`02:30.31`	`zenzelezz`	`it's a macro so he doesn't have to actually click the links`
`02:30.59`	`Kirkburn`	`Lookie, I updated the wowwiki front page =) http://www.wowwiki.com/`
`02:31.05`	`Kirkburn`	`And now I'm going to bed`
`02:31.15`	`Kirkburn`	`G'night all!`
`02:31.48`	`Cairenn`	`night Kirkburn`
`02:32.00`	`Kirkburn`	`nn!`
`02:32.02`	`cladhaire`	`night`
`02:32.36`	`Hexarobi`	`wow`
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`02:33.11`	`ckknight`	`shiny.`
`02:35.12`	`cladhaire`	`?`
`02:37.29`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Hrm...`
`02:40.30`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I'm having a problem with a for k,v in pairs(table) do`
`02:40.45`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Never mind.`
`02:40.45`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I'`
`02:40.52`	`GeoDaMancer`	`m having problems with my own stupidity. xD`
`02:41.07`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`02:41.13`	`ckknight`	`it happens`
`02:41.25`	`ckknight`	`I think we've al had problems with your stupidity`
`02:41.30`	`ckknight`	`all*`
`02:41.32`	`ckknight`	`jk ;-)`
`02:41.39`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Heheheheh.`
`02:42.16`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I had a function that would run through values, testing something with them, and if none were true, it'd return false. I had the false inside the loop. So it always returned false. xD`
`02:42.59`	`ckknight`	`alright`
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`02:48.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Sorry to be a pest, but I'm lost concerning scale ;)`
`02:48.54`	`Iriel`	`hm>`
`02:49.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Is there any doc that explains how scale really works in WoW?`
`02:50.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`From what I know, GetLeft() etc. returns scaled values. From what my head is telling me, I can save those and use them again, without bothering with the scale`
`02:50.31`	`Iriel`	`It's as simple as frame:GetEffectiveScale() = GetParent:GetEffectiveScale() * frame:Scale()`
`02:50.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Even if the EffectiveScale of UIParent shcanges`
`02:50.42`	`Iriel`	`where GetParent means frame:GetParent()`
`02:52.32`	`Iriel`	`If you want scale-invariant values, you should multiply by the frame's effective scale before you save them, and divide by it when you load back`
`02:54.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Mmkay. That helps.`
`02:54.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I just need to play with it more.`
`02:54.51`	`Esamynn`	`evening all`
`02:55.43`	`Cairenn`	`hey Esamynn`
`02:56.13`	`Esamynn`	`This just in Maexxna SUCKS!!! (well, no we haven't engaged her yet tonight)`
`02:56.17`	`ckknight`	`hey Esamynn`
`02:56.25`	`ckknight`	`~comfort Esamynn`
`02:56.32`	`purl`	`There, there, Esamynn. It's OK. I'm here for you.`
`02:56.39`	`Esamynn`	`~botsnack`
`02:56.39`	`purl`	`Esamynn: thanks`
`02:57.11`	`zenzelezz`	`I heard DnT downed Sapphiron or something?`
`02:57.19`	`Cairenn`	`yeah`
`03:00.47`	`Esamynn`	`this just in spiders are a PAIN IN THE ARSE`
`03:00.55`	`zenzelezz`	`quite`
`03:01.10`	`zenzelezz`	`I always enjoy living through those`
`03:01.26`	`zenzelezz`	`sadly that only happens some of the time`
`03:01.33`	`Esamynn`	`aye`
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`03:04.21`	`zenzelezz`	`I dread getting really started on the abomination and whatever-it-is wings... we tried them briefly the other day... those Stoneskin Gargoyles hurt >.<`
`03:05.17`	`Esamynn`	`pft gargolyes`
`03:05.36`	`Esamynn`	`test of pure dps, if you can't down them you have no business being in Naxx`
`03:06.02`	`zenzelezz`	`it's probably all about technique, but it was our first attempt =)`
`03:06.21`	`Esamynn`	`yah, on the first one in the plauge wing?`
`03:06.21`	`zenzelezz`	`managed up to the double-pull, but that one was too hard with the people we had that day`
`03:06.35`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Okay. Now I'm confused.`
`03:06.39`	`Esamynn`	`wait till you get to the pairs that do acid spit`
`03:06.43`	`JoshBorke`	`blasted! cladhaire :-( how am i supposed to get the files off of the svn web with a script? :-(`
`03:06.52`	`cladhaire`	`you don't =)`
`03:07.03`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I can have a frame that returns a negative GetLeft(), yet it still completly on screen with a margin is space between the left of my monitor and the actual frame`
`03:07.04`	`zenzelezz`	`Esamynn: are those the ones that look like stone statues?`
`03:07.07`	`cladhaire`	`or you parse`
`03:07.09`	`Esamynn`	`yes`
`03:07.11`	`ScytheBlade1`	`A sizable margin, too`
`03:07.12`	`JoshBorke`	`how can i parse?`
`03:07.13`	`zenzelezz`	`Esamynn: that's the ones we reached`
`03:07.23`	`Esamynn`	`those are fun`
`03:07.25`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: its just html, you could parse it.`
`03:07.26`	`JoshBorke`	`hm`
`03:07.45`	`JoshBorke`	`i'm trying to use wget but i can't get index.html`
`03:10.34`	`JoshBorke`	`i want to play nice, so if you say no no to a script to run daily to get the latest versions, then i won't script it :-)`
`03:11.01`	`JoshBorke`	`oh wait, hm`
`03:11.07`	`JoshBorke`	`forgot to set permissions on the download directory`
`03:11.49`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Can someone explain how I can have a frame that's 100% on screen, but a negative GetLeft()?`
`03:12.11`	`cladhaire`	`its not index.html`
`03:12.24`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, i figured it out`
`03:12.27`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`03:12.28`	`JoshBorke`	`it's me just being dump`
`03:12.33`	`JoshBorke`	`s/dump/dumb/`
`03:14.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Anyone?`
`03:14.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Don't make the gnome mage cry.. :(`
`03:14.37`	`JoshBorke`	`ScytheBlade1: did you check all it's attachment points? and scaling and stuff?`
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`03:15.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`JoshBorke, nope, and nope. Still horribly new to the UI aspect of WoW dev.`
`03:15.25`	`tyroney`	`DO NOT reload your ui while riding the tram. I just got stuck in between the two tunnels where I proceeded to die and can't see anything right now.`
`03:15.32`	`JoshBorke`	`woohoo! cat index.html \| grep HealWatch \| grep zip \| grep download \| sed 's/.download=$.$">.*$/\1/'`
`03:20.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`JoshBorke, any good things to read on the matter by chance?`
`03:24.38`	`JoshBorke`	`erm, what are you trying to do?`
`03:25.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Learn why I have a frame that's 100% on the screen, but with a negative GetLeft() value :)`
`03:28.49`	`Cide`	`it's very wide?`
`03:28.50`	`tyroney`	`There's a really strange effective scale at work?`
`03:29.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`1440x900`
`03:29.37`	`Cide`	`so it goes below zero`
`03:29.54`	`Cide`	`since it goes outside the screen`
`03:30.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Then how could I snap a frame to an exact physical screen corner?`
`03:30.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", "UIParent", "TOPRIGHT", 0, 0) obviously won't work`
`03:30.38`	`JoshBorke`	`set all points`
`03:31.35`	`ScytheBlade1`	`What do you mean?`
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`03:31.55`	`Esamynn`	`Evening slouken`
`03:32.07`	`slouken`	`Hey Esamynn`
`03:32.40`	`End`	`moo`
`03:32.46`	`slouken`	`moo`
`03:34.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`What I really need it some hand-holding :(`
`03:34.12`	`Hexarobi`	`had a keg of hefeviezen at a party last night, when you pumped the tap, it moo'd`
`03:34.16`	`Iriel`	`Hey slouken`
`03:34.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`But #$%, this should make sense`
`03:34.29`	`ckknight`	`hey slouken`
`03:35.09`	`tyroney`	`Should reloadui lag land me inbetween the tram tubes? Because it just did.`
`03:35.17`	`ckknight`	`Hexarobi, yum. Though what would be great would be to get a steak that mooed.`
`03:35.23`	`JoshBorke`	`heya slouken`
`03:35.25`	`ckknight`	`you stab it with a fork. "Moo"`
`03:35.30`	`ckknight`	`delicious.`
`03:35.55`	`Iriel`	`ScytheBlade1 : As I said yesterday, use 'nil' for the parent if you want it screen-relative`
`03:35.59`	`JoshBorke`	`ScytheBlade1: try frame:SetAllPoints()`
`03:36.11`	`slouken`	`Hey Josh`
`03:36.53`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, nope. Didn't work. /script MinimapCluster:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", nil, "TOPRIGHT", 0, 0);`
`03:37.09`	`Iriel`	`ScytheBlade1 : Did you MinimapCluster:ClearAllPoints first?`
`03:37.13`	`Iriel`	`with ()'s obviously`
`03:37.15`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, sure did`
`03:37.23`	`Esamynn`	`does anyone know anything about convincing WoW screens to show up in the configuration for the Logitech G15 keyboard`
`03:37.25`	`JoshBorke`	`slouken: how are you doing?`
`03:37.45`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It aligns the TOP correctly. But not the RIGHT.`
`03:38.18`	`JoshBorke`	`slouken: do you get as excited about guilds progressing through nax as we do? ^_^`
`03:38.27`	`Cairenn`	`hey slouken :)`
`03:38.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, it aligned RIGHT to the same as UIParent:GetRight().`
`03:39.49`	`slouken`	`Hey Cairenn. :)`
`03:40.11`	`Iriel`	`ScytheBlade1 : Since you're moving the whole cluster, are you sure that it's "right" side is the one everything else is anchored off (or for that matter, even aligned to) ?`
`03:41.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, nope. How could I tell?`
`03:41.29`	`Iriel`	`You'd have to check the blizzard XML really`
`03:41.37`	`JoshBorke`	`and CTMod.net just showed up blank...`
`03:41.46`	`Cide`	`JoshBorke: hm?`
`03:41.51`	`Cairenn`	`JoshBorke: hm?`
`03:41.58`	`Cide`	`I win Cairenn!`
`03:42.01`	`JoshBorke`	`it's a blank page for me`
`03:42.01`	`Cairenn`	`heh`
`03:42.11`	`Cide`	`uh, same here`
`03:42.15`	`Cairenn`	`ummm, yeah`
`03:42.21`	`Cide`	`give me a sec`
`03:42.27`	`JoshBorke`	`no! do it now!`
`03:42.30`	`JoshBorke`	`DO IT NOW!`
`03:42.36`	`JoshBorke`	`(i have no idea where i get that from)`
`03:42.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, looks like the Cluster has an anchor point of TOPRIGHT`
`03:42.53`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge slouken (i=slouken@devolution.com)`
`03:43.00`	`JoshBorke`	`bye slouken :_(`
`03:43.37`	`Cide`	`up now`
`03:43.46`	`Cide`	`no idea why the index file was empty`
`03:44.28`	`JoshBorke`	`Cide: sort your downloads on the downloads page! rargh`
`03:44.44`	`Cide`	`they are sorted ;)`
`03:44.46`	`Cide`	`but not by name`
`03:44.53`	`Cide`	`(mohahah)`
`03:45.12`	`JoshBorke`	`it's not by time either`
`03:45.18`	`JoshBorke`	`nor revision`
`03:45.24`	`Cide`	`"id"`
`03:45.27`	`JoshBorke`	`blah`
`03:45.54`	`JoshBorke`	`well then change their ids :-P`
`03:46.13`	`JoshBorke`	`and dangit, i can't wget off of ctmod :-(`
`03:46.17`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge slouken (i=slouken@devolution.com)`
`03:46.23`	`JoshBorke`	`(too lazy to scp it over)`
`03:46.38`	`JoshBorke`	`update wowi with the newest CTRA`
`03:46.57`	`Gngsk`	`Anyone here use the WoWI Scite? ;)`
`03:47.07`	`cladhaire`	`i do`
`03:47.27`	`Gngsk`	`You know how you can open and close functions and statments, is there a way to close them all at once?`
`03:47.55`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`03:48.03`	`cladhaire`	`View > Toggle All Folds`
`03:48.47`	`JoshBorke`	`vim FTW!`
`03:48.59`	`Gngsk`	`cool, thanks`
`03:48.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`being a noob ftl`
`03:49.03`	`Gngsk`	`was wondering what those things were called`
`03:49.13`	`Gngsk`	`fold makes sense`
`03:49.20`	`JoshBorke`	`oh yea cladhaire, is there anything special i need to do for PRaid 2.0?`
`03:49.31`	`JoshBorke`	`i switched my sources to the branch and it just eats /praid commands`
`03:50.01`	`cladhaire`	`did you exit wow?`
`03:50.05`	`JoshBorke`	`yea`
`03:50.16`	`JoshBorke`	`pretty sure anyway, my savedvariables file got reset`
`03:50.18`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:50.28`	`JoshBorke`	`i dunno, it was probably me just being dum`
`03:50.31`	`JoshBorke`	`erm, dumb`
`03:50.33`	`JoshBorke`	`man i can't tye`
`03:50.38`	`JoshBorke`	`aoesunaoeskaondaoeit',.ystndaoeish`
`03:51.24`	`Corrodias`	`praid has low mana indicators? well that's fantastic`
`03:51.51`	`cladhaire`	`it's getting mana bars`
`03:51.54`	`cladhaire`	`for mana users`
`03:52.04`	`JoshBorke`	`o.O`
`03:52.08`	`JoshBorke`	`wow, praid is getting better and better!`
`03:52.26`	`ckknight`	`hey, slouken's back. I thought I'd lost you forevers...`
`03:52.27`	`Corrodias`	`as a druid, i will care when people are running low on mana. good to hear.`
`03:52.27`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`03:53.03`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`03:53.13`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: so implement it.`
`03:53.16`	`ckknight`	`I'm sure you love the attention`
`03:53.35`	`slouken`	`yep. :)`
`03:53.41`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Kameril (n=dssd@69-171-226-188.clspco.adelphia.net)`
`03:54.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`slouken, keep idling quietly, and I might pester YOU next!`
`03:54.16`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: wolud you consider my patch if i provide one?`
`03:54.33`	`Ov2`	`why does the interface options menu take the whole screen up in 1.12?`
`03:54.41`	`Corrodias`	`seems there are some questions about praid on wowi.com`
`03:54.42`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: I can give you specifically how UpdateLayout should work.. and if you write it, i'll definitely take the patch`
`03:54.51`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`03:54.57`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: i'll try to look at it tomorrow`
`03:54.58`	`Ov2`	`praid has been updated? (the public version?)`
`03:55.13`	`cladhaire`	`Ov2: They're all public.. but wowi will get a new zip this weekend sometime.`
`03:55.18`	`cladhaire`	`before the end of labor day`
`03:59.47`	`Corrodias`	`cladhaire: are you saying that the svn.wowace file is new and shiny?`
`04:00.01`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`04:00.09`	`cladhaire`	`i'm in branches`
`04:00.18`	`Corrodias`	`the date indicates something impossible, but i rather suspect it's just an unusual format`
`04:00.51`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, in my case, using 'nil' as the frame doesn't work, because the 'screen' extends negative to the left, and more positive to the right (than UIParent)`
`04:02.11`	`Iriel`	`That's odd, you're not viewporting UIParent are you??`
`04:02.26`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, not that I know of, or unless and addon is doing it for me.`
`04:02.44`	`ScytheBlade1`	`s/and/an/`
`04:03.42`	`tyroney`	`Am I crazy? I could have sworn that it was possible to target a spirit for a res.`
`04:04.34`	`Hexarobi`	`sounds crazy to me`
`04:05.00`	`tyroney`	`Oh well. Hopefully my ticket will get answered soon.`
`04:05.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, can you see my confusion now?`
`04:06.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`:)`
`04:06.15`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It's driving me nuts`
`04:06.23`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge slouken (i=slouken@devolution.com)`
`04:06.26`	`Iriel`	`Certainly, it's very odd.`
`04:07.12`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, I can do the StartMoving(), move the whole MiniMap cluster to the far left of my screen, and then GetLeft() returns a negative value of about 300 or so`
`04:07.36`	`Iriel`	`I think you'll find the cluster includes stuff like the buff/debuff info`
`04:07.51`	`Iriel`	`Since it's just a transparent frame I suspect you dont actually know what you're moving`
`04:08.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`The only occurance of 'Buff' in Minimap.xml is 'CancelTrackingBuff()'`
`04:09.07`	`jaxdahl`	`hrm`
`04:09.11`	`jaxdahl`	`how do i move the new perfectraid?`
`04:09.18`	`jaxdahl`	`it's unlocked`
`04:09.34`	`ScytheBlade1`	`While your suggestion is indeed possible, I'm doubtful... paging over it, I'm only seeing things attached to it (such as buttons, the +/- zoom, mail frame, etc.)`
`04:09.51`	`tyroney`	`Is UIParent:GetLeft() what it should be?`
`04:09.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Iriel, even then, the AbsDimension is 192x192, as defined by the XML`
`04:09.58`	`Iriel`	`Simplest test is to anchor a solid translucent tecxture over it`
`04:10.02`	`Iriel`	`texture, even`
`04:10.39`	`Iriel`	`(I'll note i'm not looking at the code right now, busy with something, but the minimap cluster has always had a whole bunch of things attached)`
`04:10.50`	`tyroney`	`I've anchored so many translucent textures. Good times.`
`04:10.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Right. And that's fine, I'm not paying you to help, just pestering ;)`
`04:11.31`	`Corrodias`	`can you pay me to hinder?`
`04:11.53`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Is it safe to assume that since the size is defined as 192x192, and all of it's children are defined in Minimap.xml, that that is not the case though?`
`04:12.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Corrodias, sure, I'll pay you in... text :)`
`04:12.32`	`Corrodias`	`i require at least 300 letters per month`
`04:13.05`	`cladhaire`	`i really dont like these mana bars =(`
`04:13.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'm quite sure that I've far exceeded that within the past few minutes, if not this very sentence (and I'm sure that this sentence is close to 300 in length or so)`
`04:15.12`	`jaxdahl`	`cladhaire`
`04:15.17`	`jaxdahl`	`how do you move the new perfectraid frame?`
`04:15.23`	`cladhaire`	`you click and drag it`
`04:15.30`	`cladhaire`	`unlocking it would be a prerequisite`
`04:15.36`	`jaxdahl`	`it shows as unlocked`
`04:15.43`	`jaxdahl`	`i didn't try re-unlocking it`
`04:16.22`	`cladhaire`	`you may have gotten the versino with a bug in it.`
`04:16.22`	`jaxdahl`	`ok i locked it and unlocked it`
`04:16.23`	`cladhaire`	`i'll recommit`
`04:16.24`	`jaxdahl`	`still can't move it`
`04:16.25`	`cladhaire`	`gimme a sec`
`04:16.26`	`jaxdahl`	`ok`
`04:16.28`	`cladhaire`	`its spitting an error`
`04:16.44`	`jaxdahl`	`538 and 543`
`04:20.13`	`JoshBorke`	`here goes`
`04:20.14`	`cladhaire`	`download`
`04:20.19`	`cladhaire`	`updated`
`04:21.55`	`jaxdahl`	`updated, reloading ui`
`04:25.01`	`jaxdahl`	`the dragging of the frame is weird`
`04:25.10`	`jaxdahl`	`especially vertically`
`04:25.35`	`cladhaire`	`huh?`
`04:25.51`	`jaxdahl`	`i click and drag, but it doesn't move consistently`
`04:26.01`	`jaxdahl`	`hard to explain w/o a video`
`04:26.23`	`jaxdahl`	`i think it's ok tho`
`04:26.32`	`cladhaire`	`its fine, its the way OnDragStart and OnDragStop work`
`04:26.34`	`JoshBorke`	`jaxdahl: it's a 'problem' with OnDragStart`
`04:26.35`	`jaxdahl`	`i don't like the mana bars.. and don't see an option to turn them off`
`04:26.54`	`jaxdahl`	`it just looks weird to have the highlighting change when you drag the cursor`
`04:28.25`	`cladhaire`	`there isn't an option`
`04:28.27`	`cladhaire`	`you can comment it out.`
`04:28.55`	`jaxdahl`	`is the separator option functional?`
`04:29.01`	`cladhaire`	`not in the least`
`04:29.08`	`cladhaire`	`there's a seperator option?`
`04:29.08`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`04:29.16`	`jaxdahl`	`'set the height of the separator'`
`04:29.18`	`jaxdahl`	`(1-30)`
`04:29.22`	`cladhaire`	`haha good for me.`
`04:29.23`	`cladhaire`	`no its not.`
`04:29.32`	`cladhaire`	`most options don't work`
`04:29.37`	`jaxdahl`	`let's see.. what's the threshold for the deficit?`
`04:30.04`	`cladhaire`	`there is no threshold.`
`04:30.36`	`jaxdahl`	`i have a level 25 druid in my raid and it didn't show his missing health at 600/838`
`04:30.59`	`jaxdahl`	`granted, he's in a different zone`
`04:31.07`	`jaxdahl`	`but it did show graphically he was missing health`
`04:31.15`	`cladhaire`	`it seems inconsistent for some reason`
`04:31.17`	`cladhaire`	`i'm playuing with it.`
`04:31.43`	`Corrodias`	`why do there exist women with underbites...`
`04:31.51`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`04:33.35`	`cladhaire`	`jaxdahl: I really hate the mana bars..`
`04:33.39`	`cladhaire`	`I have no interest in them at all`
`04:33.40`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`04:33.54`	`cladhaire`	`consider them gone.`
`04:35.08`	`jaxdahl`	`i'm only normally paying attention to the mana bars of my own party`
`04:35.09`	`Corrodias`	`will it still have low mana warnings? >_>`
`04:35.13`	`jaxdahl`	`so i use my party UI for that`
`04:35.19`	`jaxdahl`	`Corrodias, not seeing a low mana warning at this point`
`04:35.36`	`Corrodias`	`i'm referring to the screenshots on wowi.com. there are "mana" labels next to some people`
`04:35.40`	`Corrodias`	`i assumed it was low mana warnings`
`04:35.45`	`Corrodias`	`i may well be mistaken`
`04:35.46`	`cladhaire`	`Corrodias: Yes, threshold is 20%`
`04:36.00`	`jaxdahl`	`cladhaire, is it functional in the branch?`
`04:36.07`	`cladhaire`	`it should be`
`04:36.14`	`jaxdahl`	`i ran myself out of mana and didn't see it`
`04:36.16`	`cladhaire`	`aah`
`04:36.27`	`cladhaire`	`it won't until your buffs change`
`04:36.30`	`cladhaire`	`due to odd organization`
`04:36.42`	`Tem`	`that is odd`
`04:36.45`	`Corrodias`	`until your buffs change?`
`04:36.49`	`Tem`	`perhaps you should move that bit of code?`
`04:36.55`	`Corrodias`	`that's not a very useful warning >_>`
`04:37.25`	`jaxdahl`	`ok there it is`
`04:37.29`	`Kemayo`	`Lua question. I've not seen this syntax used before... what does it mean, exactly? "list,button = {GetGossipAvailableQuests()}" (GetGossipAvailableQuests() returns title1, level1, title2, level2, ...)`
`04:37.33`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: You can't.`
`04:37.38`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Well I can.`
`04:37.40`	`cladhaire`	`I'm going to`
`04:37.44`	`jaxdahl`	`will there be an option to put those 'Ma', 'Mana',etc on the left side?`
`04:37.51`	`jaxdahl`	`and the name on the right side`
`04:37.54`	`cladhaire`	`jaxdahl: You can align the frames to the right`
`04:37.57`	`jaxdahl`	`is that the 'align' option?`
`04:38.02`	`jaxdahl`	`i guess that isn't functional either`
`04:38.03`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, if you ask nicely, I'll move it for you after I take a shower`
`04:38.05`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: The status text is just one text string`
`04:38.28`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: So how do you clear the low mana warning, you have to run a regexp on the string?`
`04:38.52`	`Tem`	`not if it's always first`
`04:39.13`	`cladhaire`	`true`
`04:39.17`	`cladhaire`	`that works for mana`
`04:39.22`	`cladhaire`	`but what about any of the other indicators =)`
`04:39.27`	`cladhaire`	`if we need to move them out.`
`04:39.31`	`Tem`	`all of the other indicators are buff, no?`
`04:39.37`	`jaxdahl`	`that highlight thing you have when you mouse over a row.. it appears to expand or shrink to fit what is currently showing.. i think i'd like it better if it were a consistent width`
`04:39.53`	`cladhaire`	`jaxdahl: Its not.. we had it like that`
`04:39.55`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Right now =)`
`04:40.08`	`Tem`	`what other's do you have in mind that wouldn't be a buff?`
`04:40.17`	`Tem`	`and what's so bad about a regex?`
`04:40.20`	`cladhaire`	`shouldn't be anything.. just trying to think the best out.`
`04:40.25`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Nothing =)`
`04:40.37`	`tyroney`	`kemayo: I'm not an expert, but I think list is the only thing getting a real value there.`
`04:41.45`	`jaxdahl`	`anyway. i like having perfectraid on the right side of my screen and it's hard to figure out where to put it so i don't have stuff hidden off screen if i can't do 'align right'`
`04:41.56`	`cladhaire`	`jaxdahl: Well, that's why it s a beta =)`
`04:42.00`	`cladhaire`	`i have lots of code to get written`
`04:42.07`	`jaxdahl`	`aye`
`04:42.23`	`Kemayo`	`tyroney: Yeah, I just tried it out. list is getting the table, and button remains nil. It's just someone using very stange syntax. :)`
`04:42.29`	`jaxdahl`	`planning on adding a background option?`
`04:42.34`	`cladhaire`	`backdrop`
`04:42.34`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`04:42.45`	`cladhaire`	`for both bars and frames`
`04:42.54`	`JoshBorke`	`oh man, i was hoping to see a screenshot of the mana bars`
`04:43.07`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: No.. =)`
`04:43.23`	`tyroney`	`kemayo: I've seen similar, but more often for declaring multiple locals in a space-saving format. Maybe someone just wanted a terse confusing way to nil out the second var.`
`04:44.08`	`jaxdahl`	`hmm. also.. what is the criteria for dimming a player/`
`04:44.13`	`jaxdahl`	`40 yards?`
`04:44.27`	`cladhaire`	`combat log, and interact distance.`
`04:44.50`	`jaxdahl`	`what is the interact distance?`
`04:46.04`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge quoin (n=quoin@122-49-170-110.ip.adam.com.au)`
`04:46.17`	`cladhaire`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CheckInteractDistance`
`04:49.09`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge GeoDaMancer (i=geomancy@dialup-4.240.210.179.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net)`
`04:49.26`	`cladhaire`	`i'm going to cut out the sort options`
`04:49.32`	`cladhaire`	`things'll be kinda unstable for a bit now.`
`04:49.34`	`cladhaire`	`just fyi`
`04:49.41`	`cladhaire`	`i'll try not to break anything too badly`
`04:49.41`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Unstable?`
`04:50.18`	`cladhaire`	`aye`
`04:50.52`	`GeoDaMancer`	`What?`
`04:50.59`	`JoshBorke`	`fg`
`04:51.15`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I ish rost.`
`04:51.30`	`cladhaire`	`GeoDaMancer: PerfectRaid.. I'm working on it.. things may break, they shouldn't.`
`04:52.03`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Ooooh. Doesn't matter to me then, I've never raided.`
`04:57.02`	`Tem`	`ok, I'm gonna go take a shower.... being in a wool uniform for 6 hours in smmer heat makes you nasty`
`04:57.24`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Shadowed (n=outlaw@c-67-161-0-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`05:01.36`	`jaxdahl`	`looking good though`
`05:02.12`	`cladhaire`	`heh k`
`05:03.14`	`JoshBorke`	`anyone want to see my hack-job of a script to download files from svn files dir?`
`05:03.27`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`05:03.31`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`05:03.31`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`05:03.33`	`cladhaire`	`it'll be changing`
`05:03.35`	`cladhaire`	`so dont get pissed :P`
`05:03.44`	`JoshBorke`	`things going to be nested?`
`05:06.21`	`cladhaire`	`somewhat`
`05:06.23`	`cladhaire`	`i'm wroking it out.`
`05:07.16`	`JoshBorke`	`cool :-) whatever makes it easiest on you and your script i say :-)`
`05:09.44`	`jaxdahl`	`hmm. would it be possible set the dim/nodim distance to healing range (40 yards) ?`
`05:10.08`	`jaxdahl`	`rather than interactdistance`
`05:11.16`	`GeoDaMancer`	`dim/nodim?`
`05:11.26`	`JoshBorke`	`jaxdahl: it already does (sorta)`
`05:11.43`	`JoshBorke`	`in the current PRaid it dims when you have a spell which is waiting to be cast (SpellIsTargetting())`
`05:11.56`	`JoshBorke`	`which just checks for: SpellCanTargetUnit() (i'm pretty sure)`
`05:12.04`	`JoshBorke`	`which means it shows the 40 yard range people`
`05:12.15`	`cladhaire`	`Thats' not how it works anymore.`
`05:12.22`	`cladhaire`	`and no, we can't "set" it to 40`
`05:12.32`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: it's not? :-(`
`05:13.25`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: No, its uses ProximityLib`
`05:13.50`	`JoshBorke`	`oh well`
`05:13.54`	`cladhaire`	`why?`
`05:14.05`	`JoshBorke`	`i liked the SpellCanTarget version because i know it's accurate`
`05:14.32`	`JoshBorke`	`where-as ProximityLib guesstimates based on combat log parsing, which can be made less accurate`
`05:14.55`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: Yeah, but the SpellCanTarget can't be updated unless youc ast spells.`
`05:14.55`	`JoshBorke`	`ie BigWigs option to change creature event range`
`05:14.57`	`cladhaire`	`that's bad =/`
`05:15.12`	`JoshBorke`	`what about a mix of both?`
`05:15.26`	`cladhaire`	`i've considered it`
`05:15.31`	`cladhaire`	`but prox is just so damn accurate`
`05:15.37`	`cladhaire`	`and not hacky`
`05:15.39`	`cladhaire`	`i dont like hacky =(`
`05:15.45`	`JoshBorke`	`mmm, hacky :-D`
`05:15.49`	`JoshBorke`	`i understand :_)`
`05:16.02`	`JoshBorke`	`and i'm sure once i see the Proximity version in action i'll love it`
`05:16.09`	`JoshBorke`	`(constant range checking? drool)`
`05:16.54`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge MentalPower_ (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net)`
`05:17.50`	`Esamynn`	`MAEXXNA DOWN`
`05:17.53`	`JoshBorke`	`grats!`
`05:17.57`	`Esamynn`	`sorry, I'm damn excited :)`
`05:18.02`	`End`	`nice`
`05:18.03`	`cladhaire`	`Esamynn: Grats!`
`05:18.06`	`Cairenn`	`grats :)`
`05:18.22`	`JoshBorke`	`first kill Esamynn?`
`05:18.27`	`Esamynn`	`yes`
`05:18.30`	`JoshBorke`	`woot!`
`05:19.45`	`ckknight`	`grats, Esamynn`
`05:20.56`	`Shadowed`	`so i think i managed to break something in the client`
`05:20.57`	`JoshBorke`	`rargh, how do i get wget to over-write files? :-(`
`05:21.11`	`Shadowed`	`we're not able to call PickupContainerItem instantly are we?`
`05:23.27`	`JoshBorke`	`i believe picking something up is a server side call`
`05:23.41`	`Shadowed`	`i have to add like 4 different delays to this because of that`
`05:26.58`	`Shadowed`	`Is SplitContainerItem a server side call too?`
`05:27.54`	`JoshBorke`	`i'd say so, since you pick something up`
`05:28.01`	`Shadowed`	`hrm`
`05:28.10`	`JoshBorke`	`maybe not pick something up, but change something in your bags`
`05:28.12`	`Shadowed`	`what if you splitcontaineritem then do a pickup to place it? Would you still need to delay those?`
`05:28.22`	`Shadowed`	`if you say yes i'm going to go cry`
`05:28.35`	`JoshBorke`	`just so you know shadowed, i'm just guessing`
`05:28.47`	`Shadowed`	`well, guessing is better then what i have atm :p`
`05:29.09`	`JoshBorke`	`but i'd say anything having to do with items in your bags sends a server call`
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`05:29.31`	`cladhaire`	`o hai`
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`05:30.33`	`cladhaire`	`hai?`
`05:31.44`	`Shadowed`	`It appears that doing a split/pickup to place is fine`
`05:31.53`	`Shadowed`	`However, you can't do a split/pickup, pickup, place all at once`
`05:32.02`	`Shadowed`	`have to do a split/pickup, delay, pickup, delay, place`
`05:36.04`	`JoshBorke`	`ok, i'm gonna go to sleep`
`05:36.15`	`JoshBorke`	`my gf is gonna be so pissed if i'm yawning while we meet with the jeweler`
`05:36.40`	`Shadowed`	`going to have to drink a lot of coffee to prevent that regardless :p`
`05:37.15`	`JoshBorke`	`don't drink coffee :-/ i drink mostly water, some milk, oj, and the occasional sprite/ibc`
`05:37.31`	`Shadowed`	`ah`
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`05:39.07`	`cladhaire`	`Tem\|Shower: Now it gets set on UNIT_MANA and drawn on UNIT_MANA or UNIT_AURA`
`05:40.38`	`JoshBorke`	`nighty night`
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`05:49.37`	`MentalPower`	`night folks`
`05:59.08`	`Esamynn`	`my guild can't decide what the sex of Maexxna is, so I told them to check the return value of UnitSex! ;)`
`05:59.18`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`05:59.48`	`cladhaire`	`Can anyone here confirm some odd behavior with anchoring for me?`
`06:00.05`	`cladhaire`	`I have a frame, that has a height, and its LEFT is anchored to the LEFT of another frame. its RIGHT is anchored to the RIGHT of another frame.`
`06:00.07`	`cladhaire`	`Offsets don't work.`
`06:00.33`	`cladhaire`	`unless I make them the same, i.e. SetPoint("RIGHT", f.Status, "RIGHT", 10, 10) does the correct offset of 10 pixels`
`06:10.03`	`jaxdahl`	`why does the guild interface sometimes show offline members even when the box isn't checked?`
`06:10.06`	`jaxdahl`	`that's been a bug for a long time`
`06:10.17`	`Shadowed`	`are you using CTMailmod?`
`06:10.20`	`jaxdahl`	`yea`
`06:10.23`	`Shadowed`	`that's why`
`06:10.26`	`jaxdahl`	`ok`
`06:10.31`	`jaxdahl`	`what's up with that then?`
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`06:18.15`	`jaxdahl`	Interface\AddOns\PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:381: attempt to concatenate field `?' (a nil value)
`06:21.36`	`cladhaire`	`old version?`
`06:21.45`	`cladhaire`	`known issue, like I said the other night =)`
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`06:27.44`	`Kirov`	`allo`
`06:27.55`	`Nightdew`	`Kirov: greetz!`
`06:28.20`	`Kirov`	`I would just like to note how much I dispise moving`
`06:28.31`	`Nightdew`	`Kirov: amen`
`06:28.40`	`Nightdew`	`In the last 5 years i moved 7 times`
`06:28.48`	`Nightdew`	`changed continents`
`06:28.50`	`Nightdew`	`states`
`06:28.52`	`Nightdew`	`and cities`
`06:29.06`	`Kirov`	`My last two moves were same-state, thankfully`
`06:29.08`	`Nightdew`	`Bought a house and i aint moving`
`06:29.23`	`Kirov`	`the 3 before that were different state`
`06:29.27`	`Kirov`	`hehe`
`06:35.13`	`Cairenn`	`night clad\|sleep, sweet dreams`
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`06:42.32`	`Kaelten`	`geez, random computer crashes for the win!`
`06:43.05`	`Kirov`	`Kaelten - My computer never crashes`
`06:43.29`	`Kaelten`	`heh. I wish I had that problem`
`06:44.27`	`Kirov`	`It takes brief cat naps from time to time with out warning though.`
`06:53.00`	`jaxdahl`	`clad\|sleep, it was the latest version`
`06:59.33`	`ckknight`	`Kirov, hehe.`
`07:00.35`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`night guys`
`07:01.22`	`ckknight`	`g'night, Cairenn\|sleep`
`07:02.59`	`jaxdahl`	`wtf`
`07:03.00`	`jaxdahl`	`Error: Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:183: Usage: DropDownList2Button2:SetText("text")`
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`07:04.48`	`ckknight`	`hey AnduinLothar`
`07:04.53`	`AnduinLothar`	`yo`
`07:05.27`	`AnduinLothar`	`mikk: ping`
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`07:12.57`	`GeoDaMancer`	`In the Ui Terms, what's the paperdoll?`
`07:13.35`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`that's the little doll that pops up when your armour durability has gone to crap`
`07:13.57`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Ahhh, thankee sai. Hrm.`
`07:14.17`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`not a "sai", sorry :p`
`07:14.59`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Am I getting it wrong, or have you not read the stories? : p`
`07:15.23`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`yes yes, I know, everyone on the intrawebs is a guy, except I'm not :p`
`07:15.54`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Ah, I just say sai, 'cause I can't remember the femine form.`
`07:18.01`	`GeoDaMancer`	`And I'm much too lazy to dig out Wasteland to find it.`
`07:20.02`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Leep swell.`
`07:20.21`	`AnduinLothar`	`uh huh. sure, you're gonna sleep`
`07:21.11`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Hey, Anduin, do you know much about the IsCasting thing-a-ma-jigger?`
`07:21.26`	`AnduinLothar`	`I wrote it`
`07:21.49`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Does it cast instant cast spells?`
`07:21.54`	`GeoDaMancer`	`^catch^`
`07:21.57`	`AnduinLothar`	`yes`
`07:21.57`	`GeoDaMancer`	`-Catch-`
`07:22.01`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Hrm.`
`07:22.34`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Does it only catch spells, like caster type spells, or other skills as well?`
`07:24.11`	`AnduinLothar`	`anything that calls the spell events. tho i found out yesterday it doesn't catch clicks on the shapeshift bar or completed aimed shots (since those have a cast time but no bar). I was gonna look into those odd cases`
`07:24.32`	`AnduinLothar`	`what isn't it catching?`
`07:24.59`	`GeoDaMancer`	`It didn't seem to be catching attempts to backstab or ambush last night when I was trying it.`
`07:25.16`	`AnduinLothar`	`instants?`
`07:25.27`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Yes.`
`07:25.39`	`AnduinLothar`	`how are you casting them?`
`07:25.42`	`GeoDaMancer`	`But, it might've just been me mishandling it.`
`07:25.58`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Action Bar/Action Bar Linked Macro.`
`07:26.01`	`AnduinLothar`	`you could turn on the debug. tho it's a little verbose`
`07:26.34`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I probably just didn't have it set up right. xD`
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`07:33.36`	`jaxdahl`	`can addons share info across 2 accounts?`
`07:33.48`	`jaxdahl`	`ie, bagnon`
`07:33.48`	`AnduinLothar`	`nope`
`07:33.51`	`jaxdahl`	`darn`
`07:34.11`	`jaxdahl`	`bagnon shows what i have in my account's other characters`
`07:34.16`	`jaxdahl`	`but not my 2nd account's :(`
`07:34.35`	`Kaelten`	`jaxdahl: thats because the data is saved seperately and we have no way to load info from otuside of an accoutn`
`07:34.36`	`AnduinLothar`	`different folder for each account`
`07:34.41`	`jaxdahl`	`might it be possible to merge them manually?`
`07:34.58`	`jaxdahl`	`external program to sync them when i log out`
`07:40.25`	`AnduinLothar`	`sure, hf writting it`
`07:45.02`	`Corrodias`	`are the old forums up somewhere? wow.com i mean`
`07:45.30`	`AnduinLothar`	`dont think so`
`07:45.42`	`AnduinLothar`	`Why look, there's a nice page on me and my sword http://www.wowwiki.com/Anduin_Lothar`
`07:46.27`	`Corrodias`	`how unfortunate... the new hunter forum doesn't have the sticky i want :(`
`07:52.40`	`GeoDaMancer`	`How does kiting work, exactly?`
`07:53.18`	`Corrodias`	`i'm not sure of the techniques, but basically you keep aggro as you pull a mob away from its spawn area`
`07:53.36`	`Corrodias`	`as i understand, just tossing an arcane shot every time its cooldown is up might be enough. i don't know.`
`07:53.48`	`Corrodias`	`distracting shot can't hurt`
`07:54.40`	`GeoDaMancer`	`'Cause on Proudmoore, this evening, someone kited Neremus? the Devourer, or something like that. One of the World Boss Dragons all the way to the SW Keep.`
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`07:54.57`	`Corrodias`	`oh, i love when someone does that kind of thing`
`07:55.31`	`AnduinLothar`	`yeah we have a guy in our guild that likes to kite things to sw every couple of weeks`
`07:55.46`	`AnduinLothar`	`dragons or the invincible servents from the blasted lands`
`07:55.48`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Heheheh. It was fun.`
`07:55.49`	`Kaso`	`I wish horde could kite that anywhere :< Teremus has some pretty good loot`
`07:55.59`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Teremus, yeah that's his name.`
`07:56.28`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I got my gun usage up a few points dealing 0 damage to him. xD`
`07:58.26`	`Corrodias`	`grr, i need that review of pet skills. i need to know what's more useful in pvp and pve`
`08:00.30`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Heh.`
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`08:06.18`	`Kaelten`	`gnight guys`
`08:11.40`	`Iriel`	`Goodnight all.`
`08:13.02`	`Kirov`	`night`
`08:13.10`	`Corrodias`	`i could have sworn i saved a local copy of that page`
`08:13.11`	`Corrodias`	`'ni`
`08:13.11`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Nighters!`
`08:23.00`	`Corrodias`	`let's see, i don't know exactly what would be useful in pvp... are they really going to be attacking the pet? maybe he needs to focus on resisting CC effects`
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`08:26.33`	`Corrodias`	`what is commonly used for CC? polymorph is arcane, isn't it? roots is nature, wyvern sting is nature, slowing/freezing traps and spells are frost`
`08:27.15`	`Corrodias`	`psychic scream & fear would be shadow, afaik`
`08:27.21`	`grzesieq`	`seduce is charm`
`08:27.35`	`Corrodias`	`charm isn't a resistance type available`
`08:27.41`	`grzesieq`	`but on fear's diminishing returns timer`
`08:27.48`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I don't know. I dislike pets with a passion, and thus have never dealt with them.`
`08:28.09`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Anyone know of a faq for the WoW UI Designer?`
`08:28.35`	`Corrodias`	`you don't know?`
`08:28.49`	`Corrodias`	`pets have nothing to do with CC methods`
`08:28.59`	`GeoDaMancer`	`CC?`
`08:29.04`	`Corrodias`	`i demand a better excuse`
`08:29.30`	`Corrodias`	`crowd control; ways in which you prevent an enemy from participating in combat, such as polymorph`
`08:30.03`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Ahhhh.`
`08:30.53`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I love Max-X.`
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`08:43.41`	`Corrodias`	`then again, if i'm going for bestial wrath, CC doesn't have an effect on the pet while it's active...`
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`08:52.51`	`Corrodias`	`hunters have too damn many skills to assign keys to`
`08:55.37`	`GeoDaMancer`	`That's why I'm writing automation scripts for most of my characters. xD`
`08:58.53`	`Corrodias`	`i've got my main action bar and the bar above it up to shift+7, which is the farthest i can reach without moving my hand too far, filled with stuff and i still have another few skills to place later`
`08:59.29`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Well, I have one key that does pretty much everything I need to do.`
`08:59.55`	`Corrodias`	`i think i need to remove my control+shift+number assignments for raid icons and just use right-clicking on the target frame for that`
`09:00.14`	`Corrodias`	`i enjoy the finger tapping dance, really`
`09:01.35`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I don't. I get confused too easily. xD`
`09:01.52`	`Corrodias`	`i enjoy it... if i can reach all the keys`
`09:02.05`	`Corrodias`	`you're right, i need to start setting up macros for anything that can be done together`
`09:02.36`	`GeoDaMancer`	`^_^ I have one for my Rogue and Fighter that automates kicking/shield bashing against mages.`
`09:02.37`	`Corrodias`	`but i can't really think of anything that i wouldn't want to use individually`
`09:03.20`	`GeoDaMancer`	`And one that automates the use of Finishing Moves, when they hit 5 Combo Points.`
`09:04.18`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Well, not automates. I just hit a button and does what is - normally - the most appropriate action.`
`09:04.42`	`Corrodias`	`this twit copied his guide over from the old forums and failed to adjust for the shorter post lengths :P`
`09:04.51`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Heh.`
`09:15.57`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Grrrr!`
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`09:25.01`	`Corrodias`	`i wonder what the point of moving to this new forum system was`
`09:28.50`	`Gngsk`	`ponage`
`09:32.48`	`Corrodias`	`for my druid, those two rows of actions was enough, but i can see i definitely need to add a third action bar to key bindings for my hunter`
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`09:35.05`	`jaxdahl`	`Corrodias, better forum management`
`09:35.10`	`jaxdahl`	`editing thread titles, moving threads`
`09:35.17`	`jaxdahl`	`limiting users' posts`
`09:36.16`	`Corrodias`	`i need a FD + FT macro...`
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`09:59.34`	`Corrodias`	`'ni`
`10:00.57`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Ni-ners.`
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`10:28.02`	`wereHamster`	`EU forums down?`
`10:31.46`	`Andalia`	`Is there a way to get the current scale of the ui. I mean if windowed mode is activated and the whole ui is scaled.`
`10:40.14`	`wereHamster`	`UIparent:GetScale() or :GetEffectiveScale()`
`10:40.19`	`wereHamster`	`UIParent`
`10:40.45`	`wereHamster`	`or getScreenWidth() GetScreenHeight()`
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`10:51.28`	`Andalia`	`that doesn't help. I mean I currently play in windowed mode but GetScale and GetEffectiveScale return 1 and GetScreen... my usual resolution. So that doesn't help me`
`10:54.10`	`wereHamster`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:54.51`	`Andalia`	`I usualy don't play in windowed, too. But I need to fix a bug that happens in windowed mode :/`
`10:55.16`	`Andalia`	`But it seems like even if I would be able to find the scale I couldn't fix it`
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`11:27.46`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`Q: are classnames localised ?`
`11:27.53`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`like "hunter"`
`11:28.22`	`JoshBorke`	`morning`
`11:28.39`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`hi`
`11:28.45`	`JoshBorke`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u: yes. UnitClass(<unit>) returns 2 paramaters, a localised version and an english version`
`11:28.58`	`JoshBorke`	`UnitClass('player') ==> 'Paladin','PALADIN'`
`11:29.27`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`.. suxors becase i wana know the class of the GuildMember :p`
`11:31.31`	`JoshBorke`	`did you check out the return values of it?`
`11:32.28`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, i'd say you're screwed :-D`
`11:32.37`	`JoshBorke`	`well, no`
`11:32.50`	`JoshBorke`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGuildRosterInfo will return a localised version`
`11:36.20`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`ah cool :p`
`11:38.10`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`or eh no :p becase if the addon runs uon a german lcient it still fooks up right :p`
`11:44.08`	`JoshBorke`	`do you want the localized version?`
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`11:55.56`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`JoshBorke tes plz`
`11:56.24`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`well actualy i want a static version or all locals :p`
`11:56.40`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`so i cn set textues depending on the class`
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`12:18.44`	`Elkano`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u, you can use Babble-Class to translate localized strings back to english`
`12:19.47`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`wuts that if i may ask :p`
`12:20.06`	`Elkano`	`http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Babble-Class-2.0`
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`12:28.43`	`Atog`	`hmm.. I'm getting the weirdest bug`
`12:28.51`	`Atog`	`My addon triggers on me hitting stuff`
`12:29.15`	`Atog`	`yet something, when I whack a rabbit, I see messages triggering, but not the one where I hit it`
`12:29.52`	`Atog`	`I see an "entered combat" firing, an enemy death, and combat ends.. Yet me hitting it, doesn't fire.`
`12:29.58`	`Atog`	`sometimes, I mean`
`12:30.20`	`Atog`	`well it fires, but not always, even though it shows up in my log.`
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`13:27.19`	`Kirkburn`	`Trivia question of the day: estimate realistically how many system icons Windows Vista has :)`
`13:27.42`	`yacoob`	`Useless trivia question of the day, you mean? :)`
`13:28.09`	`Hatsuki`	`too many`
`13:28.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Yes, useless trivia question of the day ;)`
`13:29.13`	`yacoob`	`(sawfish on linux, litestep on win32)`
`13:29.31`	`Kirkburn`	`Well, if it helps, I only have two desktop icons on my XP :P`
`13:30.04`	`Kirkburn`	`The answer is ... Four thousand five hundred and sixty two`
`13:30.27`	`Kirkburn`	`Imagine your job being to updated more than four thousand icons in several different sizes :/`
`13:30.33`	`Kirkburn`	`*update`
`13:30.53`	`Hatsuki`	`arent those vector-graphic?`
`13:31.20`	`Kirkburn`	`You know, I'm not sure how they do it now`
`13:31.30`	`Kirkburn`	`You can see them all here :P http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060903/microsoft-4562/`
`13:31.58`	`Kirkburn`	`I know they don't actually have to rediesign it for each size, but it's still more work to make it compatible`
`13:36.17`	`Miravlix`	`The number of icons is vista is totally dwarfed compared to WoW`
`13:37.17`	`yacoob`	`oooh, will vista have death coil built-in?`
`13:37.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Surely there's not more than 4,000 in WoW?`
`13:37.47`	`yacoob`	`spells/abilities? Something >200, IIRC.`
`13:41.14`	`Kirkburn`	`For those that missed it yesterday - the 1,000 car Trackmania replay! http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=12321`
`14:00.37`	`Hexarobi`	`that video really is cool`
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`14:22.14`	`Miravlix`	`Baah, you bother to fix some stupid bug in an addon, tell the author how to fix it and still 3 months later he hasn't bothered to implement it and I still get a syntax error.`
`14:22.44`	`yacoob`	`you mean... he released new version without fix? :D`
`14:23.05`	`Miravlix`	`He has released 10 versions`
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`14:23.16`	`yacoob`	`Doh.`
`14:24.48`	`Miravlix`	`Except for Cosmos every addon I use besides it is on my SVN because I update them with local modification, when possible I tell the author about my changes`
`14:25.05`	`Miravlix`	`These days there is always 10+ addons from ex-players you keep alive`
`14:26.54`	`Miravlix`	`all I did was add a button == nil check to a if.`
`14:27.09`	`Miravlix`	`Not all that big a change but it removes and annoying syntax error`
`14:28.34`	`Mery`	`he probably uses some kind of addon to hide syntax errors :P`
`14:33.50`	`Miravlix`	`Row Row Row your boat gently down the stream, oh to hell with it, Row Row Row your boat roughedly down to hell.`
`14:35.34`	`Kirkburn1`	`Positive thinking, there =)`
`14:38.20`	`Miravlix`	`I can't post on the forum and my main server is down, backup server is 20+ min queue`
`14:39.41`	`Miravlix`	`Both backup servers has 20m or worse queues.`
`14:40.02`	`Miravlix`	`Guess I have to use the last resort backup server.`
`14:42.11`	`Miravlix`	`The "We are horrible addicted and just need to play" server`
`14:47.11`	`Kirkburn1`	`Some EU servers are down atm :/`
`14:55.44`	`Miravlix`	`Yeah, 2-3 of mine is donw`
`15:21.54`	`yacoob`	`Hm.`
`15:22.12`	`yacoob`	`Is there an auctioneer shortcut to automatically post item with aucioneer price?`
`15:22.56`	`MentalPower\|AFK`	`Alt+Shift+Click`
`15:23.09`	`yacoob`	`thank you`
`15:23.38`	`yacoob`	`Are those described anywhere on the wiki?`
`15:23.41`	`MentalPower\|AFK`	`np, nice timing BTW`
`15:23.59`	`yacoob`	`8)`
`15:24.34`	`MentalPower\|AFK`	`not currently`
`15:24.42`	`MentalPower\|AFK`	`feel free to add them`
`15:26.37`	`yacoob`	`I'd have to get full list first :D`
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`15:31.00`	`Kirkburn`	`Hey, no fair ... I got disconnected and now I'm back in the queue!`
`15:44.29`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`does any1 know the icon path to the actionbar icon whit a ? for unknown things ?`
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`17:01.24`	`Kirkburn1`	`Ooh, we all get talent resets when the expansion comes ... although I s'pose it's to be expected :)`
`17:04.02`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`else we al probely got yo pay for it anyway :p`
`17:04.23`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`btw are there any rumors aobut a posable release datta ?`
`17:05.43`	`Mery`	`well I doubt they want let us play the 1.12 content over the holidays, so they prolly aim for a release this year (assuming 1.12 is the last content patch before BC)`
`17:07.10`	`Kirkburn1`	`The BC release date is currently Q4, 2006`
`17:07.21`	`Kirkburn1`	`So basically, any time in October, November or December`
`17:07.33`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`ah cool`
`17:07.34`	`cladhaire`	`i.e. 2 year anniversary`
`17:07.38`	`cladhaire`	`right in time for christmas.. again`
`17:07.55`	`Kirkburn1`	`Depending on how buggy the alpha/beta is, it all depends`
`17:08.02`	`Kirkburn1`	`cladhaire, hopefully =)`
`17:08.47`	`zenzelezz`	`"01/09 Tactical Mastery is a choice" -- sticky blue thread in warrior forum... now that's flame bait =D`
`17:09.05`	`Shadowed`	`yes`
`17:09.06`	`Shadowed`	`yes it is`
`17:09.29`	`Shadowed`	`I don't see that though`
`17:09.30`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`wut would be that way to check when i palyer switches its target and to parse osme data of it ?`
`17:09.44`	`chuckg`	`PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED`
`17:09.57`	`Kirkburn1`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u, c'mon, I know you can type better english than that :)`
`17:10.28`	`Kirkburn1`	`I don't mean this is any harsh way, but the more you try, the better you get =)`
`17:11.17`	`zenzelezz`	`Shadowed: EU warrior forum`
`17:14.03`	`Shadowed`	`ah`
`17:14.03`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i can sorry but that uses up so much of my precius time`
`17:14.57`	`Kirkburn`	`Fine, but don't expect everyone to spend the time deciphering some or your more 'interesting' constructions`
`17:15.04`	`Kirkburn`	`s/or/of/`
`17:15.39`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i know but useualy some1 is stoopid enough todo it :P`
`17:15.52`	`Shadowed`	`god`
`17:15.57`	`Shadowed`	`i am trying so hard to not make fun of you`
`17:16.12`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`thanks then`
`17:20.38`	`MentalPower\|AFK`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u: just stop`
`17:20.52`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`k sorry`
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`17:23.39`	`Maldivia`	`hmm, have the US forums been fubar for a few days now?`
`17:23.51`	`Shadowed`	`in what way`
`17:23.52`	`Shadowed`	`login?`
`17:24.25`	`Maldivia`	`well, everytime I've checked them, it's been the exact same posts on the fp, no new posts`
`17:24.27`	`Cairenn`	`"server too busy", "internal error", "blahblahblah"`
`17:24.51`	`Cairenn`	`but they are working, you just have to be persistent`
`17:25.18`	`Maldivia`	`hehe, ok`
`17:25.26`	`Maldivia`	`ohh, 5666 build out`
`17:26.04`	`Maldivia`	`wow, 304MB from 5665 to 5666`
`17:29.06`	`Esamynn`	`good morning all`
`17:29.13`	`Kirkburn`	`lol`
`17:29.23`	`Kirkburn`	`1 build for what - an extra dungeon?`
`17:29.58`	`Maldivia`	`Kirkburn: no idea`
`17:30.16`	`Kirkburn`	`How exactly do you know this btw?`
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`17:30.42`	`Maldivia`	`I ran the WoW-2.0.0.5665-to-2.0.0.5666-enUS-downloader.exe :)`
`17:30.44`	`Atog_Code`	`hmm, loads of servers down still, it seems`
`17:30.55`	`Kirkburn`	`lol, Maldivia`
`17:31.45`	`Maldivia`	`Kirkburn: think it was the easiest way to find out, don't you ?`
`17:31.51`	`Atog_`	`so, more event fun. Does anyone know if there's an event that fires upon receiving a raid warning`
`17:32.09`	`Shadowed`	`yeah`
`17:32.12`	`Shadowed`	`CHAT_MSG_RAID_WARNING`
`17:32.21`	`Kirkburn`	`Maldivia, it's more the question of how you have the downloader in the first place - I thought you ahd to log in to get that stuff`
`17:32.27`	`Atog_`	`thanks a bunch, I couldn't find it on the wiki`
`17:32.37`	`Maldivia`	`Kirkburn: version validation is done before login validation`
`17:32.44`	`Kirkburn`	`aha`
`17:33.10`	`Kirkburn`	`Are you installing it then? :)`
`17:33.53`	`Shadowed`	`Atog_: Chat message events are found her ehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events/C`
`17:36.32`	`Atog_`	`nice, thanks`
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`18:04.28`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`can someone add PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED to the "player events" on the wiki since it isn there`
`18:06.16`	`Cairenn`	`we have a volunteer! congrats and thank you \|FF\|Im2good4u`
`18:06.38`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`heh oke ill try .. im quite new to wiki editing..`
`18:06.54`	`Kirkburn`	`It's very easy, I assure you`
`18:07.07`	`Kirkburn`	`(just don't incur the wrath of the admins ... muahahahaha!)`
`18:07.51`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i found it on "combat" so ill gues ill copy paste :p`
`18:07.56`	`Kirkburn`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u, Mikk is the main guy in charge of the wowwiki Interface section, for future reference :)`
`18:08.08`	`Kirkburn`	`Sounds good`
`18:12.03`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`oke it looks like i didnt break anything`
`18:14.49`	`Cairenn`	`congrats \|FF\|Im2good4u and welcome to being a useful productive member of the wiki community`
`18:15.02`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`Thanks`
`18:15.06`	`Cairenn`	`;)`
`18:15.16`	`cladhaire`	`Unlike that douchebag cladhaire who is a useless non-productive member of the wiki.`
`18:15.30`	`Cairenn`	`man, that cladhaire is just a jerk`
`18:15.37`	`Shadowed`	`so is cair`
`18:15.56`	`Cairenn`	`she's a complete and utter bitch, she is`
`18:16.03`	`Shadowed`	`yep yep`
`18:16.07`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`iv never decided to edit wiki's becase of my "spelling issue"`
`18:16.27`	`cladhaire`	`so, i almost laughed when the french canadians in my guild asked me what "douche" Was.`
`18:16.33`	`cladhaire`	`i didn't know how to respond.`
`18:16.41`	`Cairenn`	`cladhaire: boggle`
`18:16.56`	`Cairenn`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u: I'm noticing a marked improvement in your spelling, it's good to see`
`18:17.17`	`Shadowed`	`couldn't you just say "an improvement" instead of "a marked improvement" like normal people cair :p`
`18:17.32`	`Cairenn`	`no, I'm a bitch, remember?`
`18:17.38`	`cladhaire`	`improvement is any improvement.. marked improvement means something substantial =)`
`18:17.43`	`Shadowed`	`that was like 2 minutes ago`
`18:17.51`	`Kaso`	`can i ring you back, i just got out of the douche. (http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/06/060906.html)`
`18:18.02`	`Cairenn`	`Kaso: rofl`
`18:18.16`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`18:19.16`	`Kaso`	`zefrank is the personification of cool`
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`18:22.32`	`cladhaire`	`ugt And`
`18:22.35`	`cladhaire`	`err.`
`18:22.39`	`cladhaire`	`eff you tab completion`
`18:22.42`	`cladhaire`	`ugt AnduinLothar`
`18:23.06`	`Cairenn`	`lol cladhaire`
`18:23.10`	`Cairenn`	`hey AnduinLothar :)`
`18:23.15`	`AnduinLothar`	`moo`
`18:23.29`	`cladhaire`	`damn Andalia_ messed me up =)`
`18:23.40`	`AnduinLothar`	`early... squint's eyes`
`18:23.53`	`Cairenn`	`indeed! it's before noon for you!`
`18:24.06`	`AnduinLothar`	`and i went to bed at like 5`
`18:24.16`	`Cairenn`	`sounds like me most days`
`18:24.22`	`AnduinLothar`	`was too hot in my bedroom. couldn't sleep`
`18:24.43`	`cladhaire`	`This is the second day in a row I went to bed at 2:30, and got paged by work at 6:30 for a problem which wasn't real.. but it took an hour to figure that much out.`
`18:24.54`	`AnduinLothar`	`anything exciting happening?`
`18:24.54`	`AnduinLothar`	`sad clad`
`18:24.55`	`cladhaire`	`which completely effs wtih my chi.`
`18:25.27`	`Cairenn`	`your chi? /me laughs at clad`
`18:25.38`	`Cairenn`	`errr, I mean, nod`
`18:25.50`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`18:27.49`	`wereHamster`	`what's 'shi' ?`
`18:28.03`	`wereHamster`	`chi..`
`18:28.40`	`Cairenn`	`pretensions :p`
`18:28.46`	`Cairenn`	`tease`
`18:29.36`	`zenzelezz`	`chi is some sort of karma-like energy`
`18:29.45`	`cladhaire`	`~wiki chi`
`18:29.55`	`cladhaire`	`So, moaning myrtle was in Trainspotting, and is like.. 41 years old.`
`18:31.15`	`Maldivia`	`hmm`
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`18:34.23`	`Maldivia`	`~wiki chi`
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`19:14.43`	`jaxdahl`	`anyway cladhaire, you asked if the error was in the latest version or not`
`19:14.48`	`jaxdahl`	Interface\AddOns\PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:381: attempt to concatenate field `?' (a nil value)
`19:14.57`	`jaxdahl`	`that happened in the latest version.`
`19:15.04`	`jaxdahl`	`of branch`
`19:21.00`	`wereHamster`	`Cide, any ETA on CTRAv2?`
`19:21.29`	`AnduinLothar`	`"When it's finished" I'm sure.`
`19:21.49`	`Cide`	`what he said :)`
`19:22.48`	`AnduinLothar`	`You too can can read CIde's mind for just three easy payments of $19.99...`
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`19:32.35`	`cladhaire`	`jaxdahl: That doesn't make any sense.. there's no code anywhere near 381 that could cause that. O.o`
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`19:47.31`	`cladhaire`	`long shower`
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`19:59.26`	`Cide`	`norgs around?`
`19:59.53`	`Tem`	`anyone here use Xchat?`
`20:00.02`	`Tem`	`(or familliar with it at all)`
`20:14.19`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=tardmrr@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)`
`20:14.30`	`Tem`	`most frustrating`
`20:14.42`	`Tem`	`I can't seem to make my irc client auto-join channels with keywords set`
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`20:14.56`	`cladhaire`	`thats unfortunate =/.`
`20:15.17`	`Tem`	`and to put the cherry on top, I'm a noob and don't know how to do it manually ><`
`20:15.36`	`zenzelezz`	`doesn't the X-Chat FAQ say something about how to auto-join keyed channels?`
`20:15.38`	`Tem`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:15.52`	`Tem`	`zenzelezz, it does, but what I've tried doesn't work`
`20:16.02`	`zenzelezz`	`any error message?`
`20:16.21`	`Tem`	`cannot join #channel (requires keyword)`
`20:16.37`	`zenzelezz`	`same message if you try manually?`
`20:16.40`	`Tem`	`aye`
`20:17.07`	`Tem`	`(I'm doing /join #channel keyword manually. I don't actually know if that's the right way)`
`20:17.13`	`Esamynn`	`lol, my BG queue tooltip bugged, it says i'm in the queue for Eastern Kingdoms`
`20:17.21`	`Tem`	`heh`
`20:17.25`	`Tem`	`I've seen that once before`
`20:17.44`	`moird`	`tem are you entering it like this to join say this channel: /join #wowi-lounge`
`20:17.59`	`cladhaire`	`Is there a bugsack that only uses a single addon to do everything?`
`20:18.02`	`Tem`	`this channel I'm autojoinning`
`20:18.22`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, there's the cosmos thing`
`20:18.32`	`Tem`	`better errors message or somesuch`
`20:18.51`	`cladhaire`	`Any idea where I can grab it?`
`20:18.59`	`Tem`	`www.cosmosui.org?`
`20:19.28`	`cladhaire`	`its on wowi.`
`20:19.29`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`20:21.09`	`cladhaire`	`i'll give it a whirl`
`20:21.20`	`cladhaire`	`i just think two addons for one thing is stupid.. i prefer Bs the way it used to be`
`20:22.03`	`Mikk`	`improvederrorframe`
`20:24.31`	`Shadowed`	`Hrm, if you make a scroll panel, then put a frame inside that and then a frame inside the frame, you can't scroll the scroll panel through mousewheel when hovering over the frame inside a frame?`
`20:24.33`	`Shadowed`	`if that makes sense`
`20:24.56`	`Corrodias`	`scrolling by the mousewheel would divide by zero`
`20:25.00`	`Corrodias`	`and implode the universe`
`20:25.16`	`Shadowed`	`Would it work at least?`
`20:25.28`	`Shadowed`	`the universe is a small thing to lose to have the full panel work instead of half :p`
`20:25.55`	`Mikk`	`Shadowed: Sure you can. You need to :EnableMouseWheel() a frame before it starts eating wheel events`
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`20:26.17`	`Shadowed`	`what would the XML version be, mouseWheel?`
`20:26.44`	`Shadowed`	`dont have to check, i can :p`
`20:26.52`	`Mikk`	`doesn't exist`
`20:26.58`	`Shadowed`	`kk`
`20:27.06`	`Mikk`	`i seem to remember it being enabled by default on XMLd frames`
`20:27.12`	`Mikk`	`so you'll have to explicitly disable it`
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`20:28.11`	`Shadowed`	`that breaks it :(`
`20:28.31`	`Shadowed`	`UIPanelTemplates.lua: 232: attempt to call local 'updateFunction' (a nil value)`
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`20:29.38`	`Shadowed`	`time for some hackery`
`20:29.42`	`Mikk`	`eh? o.O`
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`20:30.24`	`Shadowed`	`oh heh`
`20:30.44`	`Shadowed`	`forgot i renamed a function in LUa, didnt update the XML :p`
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`20:31.46`	`Kirkburn1`	`Tem, you look like you're having fun with X-chat :P`
`20:31.49`	`Tem`	`finally`
`20:31.55`	`Tem`	`well, I got it to work`
`20:32.05`	`Tem`	`aparently I had to put the channels in a special order`
`20:32.12`	`Tem`	`(contrary to the xchat faq)`
`20:32.20`	`Kirkburn1`	`madness :P`
`20:33.24`	`Shadowed`	`what's that wiki page that lists all the events a frame can receive? not sure where it is using the new main page`
`20:33.39`	`Tem`	`I don't think there is one`
`20:33.57`	`Tem`	`scripts = {"OnSizeChanged","OnEvent", "OnUpdate", "OnShow", "OnHide", "OnEnter","OnLeave", "OnMouseDown",`
`20:33.57`	`Tem`	`"OnMouseUp", "OnMouseWheel", "OnDragStart", "OnDragStop", "OnReceiveDrag", "OnClick", "OnDoubleClick",`
`20:33.57`	`Tem`	`"OnValueChanged", "OnUpdateModel", "OnAnimFinished", "OnEnterPressed", "OnEscapePressed", "OnSpacePressed",`
`20:33.57`	`Tem`	`"OnTabPressed", "OnTextChanged", "OnTextSet", "OnCursorChanged", "OnInputLanguageChanged", "OnEditFocusGained",`
`20:33.59`	`Tem`	`"OnEditFocusLost", "OnHorizontalScroll", "OnVerticalScroll", "OnScrollRangeChanged", "OnChar", "OnKeyDown",`
`20:34.02`	`Tem`	`"OnKeyUp", "OnColorSelect", "OnHyperlinkEnter", "OnHyperlinkLeave", "OnHyperlinkClick", "OnMessageScrollChanged",`
`20:34.05`	`Tem`	`"OnMovieFinished", "OnMovieShowSubtitle", "OnMovieHideSubtitle", "OnTooltipSetDefaultAnchor", "OnTooltipCleared",`
`20:34.08`	`Tem`	`"OnTooltipAddMoney","OnLoad"}`
`20:34.09`	`Shadowed`	`there is one`
`20:34.12`	`Tem`	`><`
`20:34.14`	`Tem`	`sorry`
`20:34.16`	`Kirkburn1`	`Shadowed, checked the Interface Cust. menu?`
`20:34.51`	`Shadowed`	`aha`
`20:34.51`	`Shadowed`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers`
`20:35.48`	`Mikk`	`Buh. "I can't find it meh meh" after all the work I did with putting together a sensible menu, adding in context menus in all the pages ....`
`20:36.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Whatchagonnado, eh, Mikk? :P`
`20:36.15`	`Shadowed`	`actually i didn't listen to you :p`
`20:36.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Even worse ...`
`20:36.31`	`Shadowed`	`clicked "XML UI" found it there`
`20:36.49`	`Kirkburn`	`And I clicked Interface Customization and found it there too =)`
`20:37.11`	`Shadowed`	`that works :p`
`20:37.26`	`Mikk`	`(fwiw, "Widget Handlers" never was in the main menu)`
`20:37.39`	`Kaelten`	`"Menu" in french?`
`20:37.50`	`Shadowed`	`yeah i know`
`20:37.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Somewhat similar`
`20:38.04`	`Kaelten`	`anyone know the correct translation?`
`20:38.32`	`Kirkburn`	`menu with an accent on the 'u' I think`
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`20:38.39`	`_aLEX`	`c'est Menu :)`
`20:38.55`	`_aLEX`	`it's "Menu" in french`
`20:38.58`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i never had trouble finding the event handles :p`
`20:38.59`	`Kirkburn`	`Yup, just 'menu'`
`20:39.31`	`Corrodias`	`when did french come up?`
`20:42.18`	`Kirkburn`	`In the Revolution, I think`
`20:42.38`	`Mikk`	`well before they swam over and turned the britons into a proper civilizations`
`20:43.31`	`Kirkburn`	`And then we took over most of their country ...`
`20:43.36`	`Shadowed`	`hrm`
`20:43.48`	`Shadowed`	`so yeah, can't really make a frame inside a frame scroll easly it looks like`
`20:44.03`	`Mikk`	`odd`
`20:44.06`	`Mikk`	`i'm doing it`
`20:44.18`	`Shadowed`	`can you post the XML you're using?`
`20:44.28`	`Mikk`	`no, cos i'm using Lua =)`
`20:45.01`	`Shadowed`	`sigh :p`
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`20:45.26`	`Shadowed`	`can you post the LUA then. Probably missing something :/`
`20:45.57`	`Mikk`	`are you using a ScrollFrame?`
`20:46.06`	`Shadowed`	`yeah`
`20:46.14`	`Mikk`	`i'm just using my own slider`
`20:46.26`	`Shadowed`	`well, that's a bit different :p`
`20:46.27`	`Mikk`	`attached to a big frame which has a mousewhell handler`
`20:46.41`	`Mikk`	`well no i'm not so sure it needs to be`
`20:47.02`	`Mikk`	`all you have to do is have the bottom one mousewheel enabled, and tweak the slider value`
`20:47.04`	`Shadowed`	`Different as in, the reason why it would work for you and not`
`20:47.28`	`Mikk`	`well.. i don't have a crapload of FrameXML gunk tripping me up`
`20:47.34`	`Mikk`	`but the widgets function the same`
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`20:48.22`	`Shadowed`	`alt + z?`
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`20:48.52`	`Mikk`	`no, ctrl+q =)`
`20:49.08`	`Shadowed`	`ah`
`20:50.23`	`Mikk`	`there we go. unbound.`
`20:50.33`	`Mikk`	`idiot key combo`
`20:54.20`	`Corrodias`	`i think i've decided on my pvp pet's build, but now i need to think about my pve pet's build`
`20:55.40`	`Corrodias`	`and i still need to put aimed shot and multishot somewhere. volley doesn't need to be key-hittable, i don't think.`
`20:57.16`	`Mikk`	`ctrl+keys ftw`
`20:57.45`	`subbawt`	`i hate ctrl+keys`
`20:57.49`	`subbawt`	`i use a lot of shift+key`
`20:57.51`	`Corrodias`	`you apparently don't know my current layout, so i'll forgive you for that`
`20:58.38`	`Mikk`	`how gracious of you :-P`
`20:58.59`	`Corrodias`	`i use numbers and shift+numbers for actions, control+numbers for pet actions, fkeys for shapes/aspects/stances, alt for self casting, and currently control+shift+numbers for raid icons, but i'm thinking of changing that to let me use even more actions because i'm running out of keys`
`20:59.23`	`Corrodias`	`shift+fkeys for targetting party members (my heals are all on the shift bar anyway)`
`20:59.41`	`Mery`	`and they just gave you a key bag...`
`21:00.08`	`Corrodias`	`amusing!`
`21:00.36`	`Mikk`	`i just find that numbers 7 and beyond are too far off to be useful`
`21:00.41`	`Mikk`	`so i use a lot of ctrl+alphas`
`21:02.36`	`Corrodias`	`yeah..`
`21:02.43`	`Corrodias`	`what? ctrl+letters?`
`21:02.47`	`Mikk`	`yes`
`21:02.57`	`Corrodias`	`i'm not aware of how to assign those to actions`
`21:03.01`	`Mikk`	`o.O`
`21:03.15`	`Corrodias`	`oh, silly me`
`21:03.18`	`Corrodias`	`action bars, yes`
`21:03.38`	`Corrodias`	`probably would work just fine`
`21:03.52`	`Corrodias`	`better than control+shift+numbers, i bet`
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`21:19.41`	`Kirkburn1`	`Dammit, Blizz are always so ... ethreal! http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/15403022.htm`
`21:20.06`	`Maldivia`	`Kirkburn: hehe`
`21:20.43`	`Maldivia`	`Kirkburn: btw, you asked about the single build patch... it seems all the major outland cities was patched :)`
`21:20.54`	`Kirkburn1`	`How so?`
`21:21.00`	`Kirkburn1`	`More stuff?`
`21:25.13`	`Industrial`	`http://alarmingdevelopment.org/index.php?p=6`
`21:28.54`	`Corrodias`	`i saw that one of the changes in BC is a bug fix`
`21:28.58`	`Corrodias`	`so i doubt there's going to be another patch`
`21:30.05`	`Corrodias`	`silly rangehelp only lets you switch to action bars 1-6. time to fix that.`
`21:31.10`	`Kirkburn1`	`I recall someone mentioned that 1.12.1 is included in the alpha patch`
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`21:31.43`	`Kirkburn1`	`But yes, I do think that there will be no more pre-BC patches (except preparation stuff)`
`21:32.18`	`Corrodias`	`this guy uses NUM_ACTIONBAR_PAGES which apparently returns 6?`
`21:32.59`	`Corrodias`	`rather than 10 like i'd expect..`
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`21:36.38`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Wha-heeeee!`
`21:36.49`	`Cairenn`	`hi geo`
`21:37.05`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Hello, Cairenn.`
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`21:53.45`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Wow, this is going to be harder than I thought.`
`22:02.45`	`zenzelezz`	`Corrodias: why would it be 10 pages?`
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`22:19.00`	`JoshBorke`	`hola`
`22:19.58`	`Cairenn`	`hi JoshBorke`
`22:21.34`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Hola Borke. xD`
`22:21.48`	`JoshBorke`	`xD`
`22:22.14`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Sorry, your name makes me laugh.`
`22:22.36`	`JoshBorke`	`i know :-) it's good to bring a smile to someone's day`
`22:22.41`	`ckknight`	`~emulate swedish chef`
`22:22.43`	`purl`	`Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!`
`22:23.00`	`GeoDaMancer`	`The Muppet's Chef. I love him. xD`
`22:23.07`	`GeoDaMancer`	`We got the DVDs, mostly for him.`
`22:23.54`	`Cairenn`	`~emulate Beaker`
`22:23.55`	`purl`	`ACTION meeps`
`22:24.15`	`zenzelezz`	`Beaker?`
`22:24.37`	`Cairenn`	`the scientist's helper, the one that was always getting blown up and stuff`
`22:24.56`	`Cairenn`	`so he'd "meep" all the time, whenever something was about to go wrong`
`22:25.18`	`Cairenn`	`someone needs to program Animal in, too`
`22:25.41`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Heheheheh.`
`22:25.44`	`zenzelezz`	`hm, I still associate "meep" with Anarchy Online before anything else o_O`
`22:25.55`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Anarchy Online?`
`22:26.20`	`zenzelezz`	`sci-fi MMO, bit old by now`
`22:26.56`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I've heard of it, but I didn't know there was meep in it.`
`22:27.19`	`zenzelezz`	`"meep" was code-word for any form of spell ("nano program") that teleported you into the transportation network thingie (the grid)`
`22:27.35`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Ahhhh.`
`22:27.38`	`zenzelezz`	`usually your team would shout it at you whenever what you were doing was over and they didn't want to run back`
`22:34.48`	`Legorol`	`good evening`
`22:35.00`	`Cairenn`	`Lego!`
`22:35.00`	`zenzelezz`	`a Legorol :-o`
`22:35.06`	`Cairenn`	`where the hell have you been?!`
`22:35.15`	`Legorol`	`Internet-less holiday :)`
`22:35.24`	`Legorol`	`yes those exist too, however rare they are`
`22:35.55`	`Legorol`	`how do a i do a "seen" thingy?`
`22:36.04`	`Cairenn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:36.09`	`purl`	`i haven't seen '<whoever>', Cairenn`
`22:36.09`	`zenzelezz`	`~seen something`
`22:36.11`	`purl`	`something <~something@wv-morgantown-cdnt1-bg1-4f-59.mgtnwv.adelphia.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 1242d 18h 46m 59s ago, saying: 'what class is the bluetooth in the ipaq 3870? All I could find was fcc rating class B, does that translate into class I, II, III?'.`
`22:36.12`	`End`	`~seen yourface`
`22:36.14`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'yourface', End`
`22:36.21`	`End`	`well, it's a good thing`
`22:36.24`	`End`	`my face is ugly`
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`22:50.07`	`Legorol`	`hm, new talents and spells .. interesting`
`22:50.30`	`Legorol`	`what stops me from spending 31+30 in two trees? isn't that a bit too powerful?`
`22:50.51`	`vhaarr`	`Are you saying priest talents are up or are you just a week behind on WoW stuff?`
`22:52.00`	`Legorol`	`i'm more than a week behind :)`
`22:52.12`	`Legorol`	`ah darn, new forums are live, and they haven't fixed the issue with transparent proxies`
`22:52.26`	`Legorol`	`no logging in to the new forums for me, without much pain...`
`22:53.34`	`JoshBorke`	`hello Legorol, ltns`
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`22:53.43`	`Legorol`	`indeed JoshBorke`
`22:53.47`	`Legorol`	`hi AnduinLothar!`
`22:53.51`	`AnduinLothar`	`hey lego`
`22:55.12`	`Cairenn`	`hey AnduinLothar`
`22:55.25`	`AnduinLothar`	`hey cair`
`22:57.09`	`subbawt`	`someone on the priest forums posted some supposed priest talents`
`22:57.17`	`JoshBorke`	`hi AnduinLothar`
`22:57.22`	`subbawt`	`they all look pretty lame`
`22:57.28`	`subbawt`	`such as bad talents that synergize with lightwell`
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`23:02.29`	`AnduinLothar`	`sup all?`
`23:06.11`	`JoshBorke`	`erm, i have an extra FP...`
`23:06.14`	`JoshBorke`	`labeled INVALID...`
`23:06.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Gilneas?`
`23:06.19`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`23:06.41`	`Kirkburn`	`You're not the only one :P`
`23:06.51`	`JoshBorke`	`gilneas what?`
`23:07.21`	`Kirkburn`	`It is around Gilneas`
`23:07.22`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: i have no commands for perfectraid in my version (from branches)`
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`23:07.33`	`Mery`	`am I missing something or is RDX just a CTRA like mod? I mean i can't find any too special features on their website...`
`23:07.34`	`Kirkburn`	`GIlneas being the bit sticking off of Loraeron`
`23:07.36`	`JoshBorke`	`is gilneas in duskwood?`
`23:07.43`	`Kirkburn`	`Uh, no :)`
`23:07.45`	`JoshBorke`	`mine's just southwest of darkshire`
`23:08.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Ah well, it's known about anyway`
`23:08.29`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: Then something is broken, because they are there.`
`23:08.53`	`JoshBorke`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:09.42`	`Kirov`	`RDX is like CTRA, only requires a ton of setup to get it to do anything`
`23:10.46`	`Kirov`	`The only feature I kinda like isn't actually part of the main RDX`
`23:10.58`	`Kirov`	`It's a mod that comes with RDX`
`23:11.04`	`JoshBorke`	`i like the feauter of being able to setup your unit frames for each fight`
`23:11.30`	`Kirov`	`Basically it saves your combat log, and the raid leader can request a person's combat log from the last fight.`
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`23:11.49`	`Kirov`	`You can also change the code on the fly.`
`23:11.55`	`Kirov`	`which I can see as being really really bad.`
`23:11.58`	`zenzelezz`	`"see, you were slacking!"`
`23:12.17`	`JoshBorke`	`omniscience`
`23:12.32`	`JoshBorke`	`there's a better way to do that imho`
`23:12.41`	`Kirov`	`JoshBorke - Agreed`
`23:12.56`	`Kirov`	`JoshBorke - The combat log is nice, but it's a crap load of data that's not really needed.`
`23:13.40`	`JoshBorke`	`i understand the idea behind what they want, but they should think about it more and come up with a better way`
`23:13.50`	`Kirov`	`You could simplify that down a lot to "-400 (Badman)" "+400 (Healerdood)"`
`23:14.21`	`cladhaire`	`but saving it is extremely cheap`
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`23:14.36`	`cladhaire`	`parsing it and making new strings is actually more memory and more time`
`23:15.07`	`Kirov`	`cladhaire - I wouldnt' do it on the fly`
`23:15.07`	`cladhaire`	`I prefer it be done that way, and any parsing you want to do be on the backend`
`23:15.17`	`Kirov`	`aye`
`23:15.34`	`Kirov`	`It's the way the information is displayed to the user vs. the internals`
`23:15.43`	`cladhaire`	`nod`
`23:15.48`	`cladhaire`	`k =)`
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`23:23.18`	`Cairenn`	`norgs: ping?`
`23:24.25`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: which version of PerfectRaid am i supposed to use? Ace2 or Unstable?`
`23:24.29`	`cladhaire`	`Ace2`
`23:24.33`	`JoshBorke`	`ah ha!`
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`23:33.17`	`JoshBorke`	`o.O i like the new highlight`
`23:33.41`	`Kirov`	`highlight?`
`23:34.03`	`JoshBorke`	`when you mouse over the perfectraid frames`
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`23:35.02`	`Kirov`	`what's the difference between PerfectRaidTargets and PerfectTargest?`
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`23:35.22`	`snurre`	`the name`
`23:35.23`	`cladhaire`	`Kirov: A name change =)`
`23:35.24`	`snurre`	`and width`
`23:35.34`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: I spent like 10 days on that damn texture :P`
`23:35.34`	`Kirov`	`heh`
`23:36.31`	`JoshBorke`	`lol, you did a great job :_)`
`23:36.49`	`JoshBorke`	`you made it sticky! that is so cool!`
`23:36.52`	`cladhaire`	`i HATE the damn quest overlay texture that everyone and their mother seems to love.`
`23:36.55`	`cladhaire`	`sticky?`
`23:37.17`	`JoshBorke`	`oh wait, nvm, that's the thing that keeps it on screen`
`23:37.23`	`cladhaire`	`hehe yeah`
`23:37.25`	`JoshBorke`	`i couldn't pull it away from the side of my screen for a bit`
`23:37.36`	`cladhaire`	`it only works on 3 of the 4 sides.. i'll be fixing that later`
`23:38.00`	`JoshBorke`	`oh really nifty! it collapses on the bottom!`
`23:38.38`	`Kirov`	`ok ... so how does one enable praid?`
`23:39.25`	`cladhaire`	`join a raid.`
`23:39.38`	`Kirov`	`hmm`
`23:39.51`	`Kirov`	`it appears installing it to the correct directory would also be a manditory step for some reason`
`23:40.02`	`cladhaire`	`in theory, depends on who you ask =)`
`23:40.54`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBorke: The collapsing is a bug.. it collapses on whatever side isn't the anchored side (top or bottom depending on alignment)`
`23:41.40`	`JoshBorke`	`ah, i see`
`23:45.13`	`Kirov`	`uhg`
`23:45.30`	`Kirov`	`I hate when adding a new feature means rewriting the display code from scratch`
`23:49.13`	`cladhaire`	`whatdya mean?`
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`23:49.57`	`Kirov`	`cladhaire - My display code assumes that for every bar I show there's a hunter in the raid that exists for it, and if not then it's removed.`
`23:50.06`	`cladhaire`	`Kirov: aaah.. =/`
`23:50.22`	`Kirov`	`I'm adding a feature for "nil" bars that show, but have no hunters`
`23:50.47`	`Kirov`	`To allow for different rotation setups`
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`23:52.07`	`Kirov`	`rather annoying trying to make stranq account for every type of rotation setup people use`
`23:55.30`	`zenzelezz`	`stranq?`
`23:55.55`	`Kirov`	`SimpleTranqShot`
`23:56.50`	`Kirov`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1718-1-simpletranqshot.html`

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