| 00:00.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | heaven's light is amazing |
| 00:00.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | not 12g amazing imo |
| 00:00.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | but really freaking nice |
| 00:01.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a cheap bastard |
| 00:01.12 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:01.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i cut corners and try to get deals everywhere |
| 00:01.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then do the exact opposites with my enchants and leather stuff i make |
| 00:01.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, crusader and 3 other enchants is worth a bit over 200g! |
| 00:02.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, more like 5 other enchants |
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| 00:08.34 | GeoDaMancer | Hahahahah. Nice quote. |
| 00:10.39 | Cairenn | GeoDaMancer: even better if you know the story behind it |
| 00:11.17 | GeoDaMancer | Well, I would beleive that, but it's pretty funny regardless. I've been through that sort of thing many -MANY- times. |
| 00:13.00 | Cairenn | Background, guild pulling Firemaw, GL for whatever reason decides to inspect the MT and discovers that the MT is in full resist gear. *Shadow* resist, that is. So, GL and some of the others in the guild made this up to help the MT in future: http://evilempireguild.org/misc/FiremawChant.mp3 |
| 00:13.39 | Cairenn | and we've ALL done something similar at one point or another in our various MMO careers |
| 00:14.19 | zenzelezz | one of our two MTs told everyone to put on the Onyxia Scale Cloaks, then proceeded to die shortly after the pull from Shadowflame |
| 00:17.17 | MentalPower | nice! |
| 00:17.44 | Tem | lol |
| 00:17.57 | Tem | that happened to us a few times |
| 00:18.55 | GeoDaMancer | Nah, this is my first MMO. I did things like that in other games. |
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| 00:22.11 | GeoDaMancer | In Suikoden 5, I have like... Fifty-thousand earth rings, which raise your resist to earth type magics, and forget to equip them when fighting a boss of the same element. xD |
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| 00:23.15 | Kirkburn | Too many Tems! |
| 00:23.27 | tardmrr | so, I think maybe I should put points back into arcane in TBC |
| 00:23.35 | Tem | I think you're retarded |
| 00:23.45 | tardmrr | But did you read the new talents!? |
| 00:23.51 | Tem | I did, and it worries me |
| 00:23.59 | cladhaire | ? |
| 00:24.05 | Cairenn | lol Tem |
| 00:24.08 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:24.19 | Kirkburn | You lot are too quick =) |
| 00:24.45 | tardmrr | well, if you're so against Arcane, you think maybe the water elemental will be more than a big ugly joke? |
| 00:25.01 | Tem | I haven't a clue |
| 00:25.29 | Cairenn | Tem, you're a nut |
| 00:25.29 | zenzelezz | I seem to recall some arcane mage on my server cleverly named Shazzrah |
| 00:25.33 | Tem | I'm looking at a 17/0/40 spec |
| 00:25.54 | cladhaire | why are you avoiding the elemental? |
| 00:26.00 | Tem | Cairenn, I'm at work. I can't argue with myself outloud here |
| 00:26.05 | Tem | so... I'll do it on irc! |
| 00:26.08 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 00:26.08 | Kirkburn | He's big and mean, cladhaire :P |
| 00:26.21 | Tem | cladhaire, I'm not satisfied with the elementalist |
| 00:26.25 | Tem | I beat them too easily |
| 00:26.33 | Kirkburn | Y'know, I kinda meant via PMs, but this is also good :P |
| 00:26.38 | Thrae | Mmmm, Feral Druids with 0/30/31 |
| 00:26.41 | tardmrr | lol, Kirk |
| 00:27.06 | Kirkburn | I'd avoid the elemental cause he'd squish me |
| 00:27.31 | tardmrr | oh, cladhaire, you meant the water elemental. not an elementalist spec |
| 00:27.32 | Kirkburn | I mean, how can one fight a mass of air/water/fire with a sword? |
| 00:28.01 | tardmrr | gosh, Tem, l2readingcomprehension |
| 00:28.15 | Tem | *sigh* |
| 00:28.18 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 00:28.44 | Tem | well, I can't really say until we know more, but I just don't know what they'll be good for |
| 00:28.53 | Tem | seem like a gimped version of a warlock's imp |
| 00:29.06 | Tem | maybe they will be useful in raids or something |
| 00:29.14 | cladhaire | Its going to take you 8 days of playtime to level |
| 00:29.16 | cladhaire | don't forget that |
| 00:29.22 | Tem | say what? |
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| 00:29.31 | cladhaire | 60-70 is goign to take as long as 1-60 |
| 00:29.32 | Tem | cladhaire, one level or all 10? |
| 00:29.39 | Tem | oh snap |
| 00:29.52 | cladhaire | so don't neglect things that will make leveling easier =) |
| 00:29.59 | Toadstool_ | Mmm, mushrooms |
| 00:30.05 | Cairenn | so I'll be level 70 in about .... 20 years then? |
| 00:30.20 | Tem | well it took me 30 days to hit 60 because I spent so much time dueling |
| 00:30.21 | Kirkburn | No, carrots ftw, you fool. |
| 00:30.33 | Toadstool_ | Oh okay then |
| 00:30.50 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 00:30.54 | Cairenn | what the hell was that? |
| 00:31.15 | tardmrr | Tem's image waves bye |
| 00:31.19 | Kirkburn | No idea *whistles innocently* |
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| 00:31.33 | Tem | seems to me that kirk was playing the same game as me |
| 00:31.36 | zenzelezz | --- #wowi-lounge n=Kirkburn 84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net irc.freenode.net Kirkburn H :0 George |
| 00:31.39 | Cairenn | and I thought *I* was bored? |
| 00:31.48 | Kirkburn | What game, this is no game? |
| 00:31.55 | Tem | lol |
| 00:32.48 | Kirkburn | Hey wait, how is my name still showing up on there :/ |
| 00:32.53 | Cairenn | on, btw, just thought I'd mention ... I hate winter |
| 00:33.06 | Tem | hmm |
| 00:33.07 | GeoDaMancer | Winter is great! |
| 00:33.10 | Tem | Cairenn, winter? |
| 00:33.11 | Kirkburn | Oh wait, because I've got my name in the details box :P |
| 00:33.15 | Tem | it's 100 degrees here |
| 00:33.21 | zenzelezz | I prefer winter over summer, but autumn and spring are best |
| 00:33.29 | Kirkburn | Winter? Where are you, australia? |
| 00:33.30 | Tem | Cairenn, why don't you move down south? We don't have winter here |
| 00:33.40 | Cairenn | Tem: get me a green card ... |
| 00:33.40 | zenzelezz | then again, spring is pollen... so that leaves autumn |
| 00:33.57 | Tem | oh right, kanuck and all |
| 00:34.02 | Kirkburn | Summer rox |
| 00:34.14 | Cairenn | and what brought the comment on is the fact that it's 8:30 at night and already dark outside, which means winter is coming, and I HATE WINTER |
| 00:34.25 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 00:34.40 | Kirkburn | Emigrate :) |
| 00:34.41 | Tem | double :( |
| 00:34.50 | Kirkburn | It's never that cold in the UK :) |
| 00:35.04 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.10 | Cairenn | I want summer back :( |
| 00:35.31 | MentalPower | Always summer in the sunny caribbean :) |
| 00:35.34 | zenzelezz | lowest we get where I live is -15C |
| 00:35.35 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 00:35.44 | Kirkburn | Nope, doesn't seem to have helped? |
| 00:35.45 | zenzelezz | I'd rather be around 10C than 30C x.x |
| 00:36.02 | Cairenn | -40C to +45C |
| 00:36.05 | MentalPower | great, I'm in forum purgatory |
| 00:36.10 | Kirkburn | Ah, it must have been because of my atrocious spelling |
| 00:36.27 | Kirkburn | The UK is more like -3 to +30 |
| 00:36.34 | Kirkburn | SE england, anyway |
| 00:36.40 | GeoDaMancer | I agree, sense. But then, normally around here it goes from about 5 to 30. xD |
| 00:37.11 | Kirkburn | At which point I start asking, where is everyone from that didn't actually say :P |
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| 00:38.12 | GeoDaMancer | Central Hell. ^.^ |
| 00:38.27 | zenzelezz | I'm from just about the southernmost tip of Norway |
| 00:39.01 | GeoDaMancer | El Paso, Texas, actually. Horrible place, don't come. |
| 00:39.14 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:40.07 | GeoDaMancer | Well, this year, it's not so horrible, except for the West Nile 'squitos. |
| 00:41.07 | Kirkburn | That sounds likely |
| 00:41.10 | Kirkburn | uh |
| 00:41.12 | Kirkburn | lovely |
| 00:41.33 | cladhaire | we have the EEE and West Nile up here =) |
| 00:41.58 | GeoDaMancer | EEE? |
| 00:42.09 | cladhaire | Eastern Equine Ensephelittis |
| 00:42.11 | cladhaire | or something like this. |
| 00:42.26 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhhh. |
| 00:42.49 | GeoDaMancer | And, for once in a long time, it's green here. But then, in two weeks we got a year's worth of rain. xD |
| 00:43.14 | Kirkburn | You're making me really glad I live where I do |
| 00:44.14 | GeoDaMancer | Well, consider this... 7 inches is normal a -year- here. |
| 00:44.33 | Kirkburn | GeoDaMancer, what exactly are we talking about here, snow? :O |
| 00:45.03 | Kirkburn | Oh wait, make that rain |
| 00:45.13 | Kirkburn | snow would be a bit weird |
| 00:45.29 | zenzelezz | for a moment there I thought you were making a dirty reference Kirk |
| 00:46.34 | GeoDaMancer | Yep, seven inches of rain a year. |
| 00:46.38 | GeoDaMancer | In some areas less. |
| 00:47.39 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, oh but I was ^.^ |
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| 00:54.31 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 00:54.44 | Cairenn | wb |
| 01:03.54 | Tem | What is a "wounded target?" |
| 01:04.09 | Hexarobi | a target that isnt at 100% health? |
| 01:04.52 | zenzelezz | in what context? |
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| 01:05.07 | Tem | Molten Fury 3/3: Increases damage of all spells by 30% against wounded targets |
| 01:05.33 | zenzelezz | mobs with DoTs or bleed effects? |
| 01:05.39 | Tem | is that like execute? |
| 01:05.45 | Tem | where wounded == <20%? |
| 01:05.54 | zenzelezz | could be |
| 01:05.55 | Tem | or is it some other definition? |
| 01:06.13 | Hexarobi | sounds to me like it means any spell but the first to hit |
| 01:06.27 | Hexarobi | but ya its prolly below a certain health % |
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| 01:08.30 | GeoDaMancer | I think it's bleeding. |
| 01:08.36 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 01:08.41 | Iriel | Evening all |
| 01:08.45 | Cairenn | hey Iriel :) |
| 01:08.47 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 01:08.48 | GeoDaMancer | Unless it means the wounding poison. |
| 01:09.12 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
| 01:09.18 | clad|sleep | Tem: It'll be a new mechanic imo |
| 01:09.22 | clad|sleep | Tem: Like Dazed |
| 01:09.31 | clad|sleep | new as far as us being able to do it to a mob |
| 01:09.34 | Tem | sounds shitty and useless |
| 01:09.47 | Tem | evening, Iriel |
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| 01:12.13 | GeoDaMancer | Does the arcane party assist thing have a list of casting times, or does it recieve information from a event? |
| 01:12.27 | Kirkburn | Awesome, I have wiki powers :D |
| 01:13.32 | Kirkburn | Mmm, pink |
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| 01:22.13 | Tem | oh god spell steal is going to rock so much |
| 01:22.28 | GeoDaMancer | Spell steal? |
| 01:22.41 | Tem | new mage spell |
| 01:22.49 | Tem | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-mage/spells.html |
| 01:23.01 | Tem | priest puts a hot on himself? |
| 01:23.05 | Tem | I'll take that |
| 01:23.06 | Tem | kthx |
| 01:28.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | or innervate :x |
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| 01:29.24 | Cairenn | condolen, errr, congrats Mikk and Kirkburn :p |
| 01:29.40 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 01:29.55 | Tem | oh god |
| 01:29.55 | Mikk | you had it right the first time :-P |
| 01:29.56 | Kirkburn | Christ, I'll have to think before doing now :O |
| 01:29.57 | Tem | innervate |
| 01:29.58 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 01:30.11 | Tem | 10 bucks says spellsteal gets nerfed before the patch is out |
| 01:30.30 | Iriel | What's the cooldown on it? |
| 01:30.36 | Tem | doesn't list one at all |
| 01:30.42 | Iriel | and can it be resisted |
| 01:30.53 | Tem | probably |
| 01:31.00 | zenzelezz | "I'll take your Soulstone kthx" |
| 01:31.01 | Tem | but with no cooldown I have no problem spamming it |
| 01:31.06 | Corrodias | 474 mana |
| 01:31.19 | Corrodias | unless you can grab an innervate, you won't be using that many times |
| 01:31.19 | Tem | yes, it's quite mana heavy |
| 01:31.30 | Tem | but it means I can shut down a pally completely |
| 01:31.35 | Corrodias | GOOD |
| 01:31.46 | Corrodias | sorry, i just have some unpleasant memories from yesterday's WSG |
| 01:31.48 | Tem | and priests and druids are SoL with Hots |
| 01:31.52 | Tem | lolz |
| 01:31.57 | Tem | pallies are free HKs |
| 01:32.03 | Corrodias | we're assuming PvP for this, of course |
| 01:32.10 | Tem | but I love having them on my side |
| 01:32.35 | Corrodias | does their bubble last a certain amount of time for infinite damage? |
| 01:32.42 | Tem | yes |
| 01:32.52 | Tem | anyway, I'm willing to bet that spellsteal gets a cooldown before it goes live |
| 01:32.54 | Corrodias | that's why i hated that guy |
| 01:33.14 | Tem | that would effectively make mages a third class that can dispell positive buffs from another player |
| 01:33.21 | Tem | omg, power word: sheild |
| 01:33.28 | Tem | with no weakened soul debuff |
| 01:33.34 | Corrodias | *eyebrow* |
| 01:33.46 | Tem | god the possibilities |
| 01:33.53 | Tem | I wonder if I could steal a BoP |
| 01:34.00 | Iriel | The steal is limited for 2 mins isn't it? |
| 01:34.01 | Tem | since it doesn't make them immune to magic |
| 01:34.04 | Tem | Iriel, yes |
| 01:34.20 | Tem | so a stolen buff can't last longer than 2 minutes |
| 01:34.21 | Corrodias | but, keep in mind, the other classes also get ass kicking abilities. still, yes, that may require a cooldown. |
| 01:34.34 | Corrodias | none of the -good- buffs last longer than 2 minutes anyway |
| 01:34.35 | zenzelezz | do you get to choose what spell to steal? |
| 01:34.37 | Corrodias | do they? |
| 01:34.39 | Tem | nope |
| 01:34.44 | Tem | zenzelezz, no |
| 01:34.53 | Tem | zenzelezz, I imagine it works like dispell does now |
| 01:35.00 | Tem | order is undefined |
| 01:35.09 | Tem | damnit |
| 01:35.15 | Tem | you guys made me miss my AB queue |
| 01:35.19 | zenzelezz | I only play a warrior; I'm fairly clueless about spells |
| 01:35.20 | Tem | I'm supposed to be testing things... |
| 01:35.37 | GeoDaMancer | I know how you feel, zenze. |
| 01:35.49 | Cairenn | night Mikk-Zzz |
| 01:36.10 | Tem | anyway, it means I will have a much easier time with priests and druids |
| 01:36.50 | GeoDaMancer | Ugh, I fought a druid with my priest. I finally lost 'cause I was buffing when I didn't need to ran out of mana. |
| 01:36.52 | Corrodias | until druids get "power word: kill" :P |
| 01:37.12 | Corrodias | i don't know how to use my druid for combat, but i love flag running and healing |
| 01:37.22 | Tem | well, druids can actually break my sheild now that they steal-nerfed dampen magic |
| 01:38.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the record |
| 01:38.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | clearcasting is a magical effect |
| 01:38.31 | Tem | teehee |
| 01:38.45 | Tem | I cannot WAIT to get that spell |
| 01:38.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | so are all HoTs |
| 01:38.52 | Tem | aye |
| 01:38.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | and PW:S |
| 01:38.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | and BoP |
| 01:39.07 | Tem | HoTs and PW:S were my first thoughts |
| 01:39.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | all blessings are |
| 01:39.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | Soul Link is... but uh |
| 01:39.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know how that'd work |
| 01:40.21 | Tem | that would be crazy funny |
| 01:40.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just pad all my good buffs with worthless ones |
| 01:40.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | already |
| 01:40.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | thorns over ooc over motw |
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| 01:47.30 | Tem | won't matter if there's no cooldown |
| 01:48.55 | Corrodias | ooc? |
| 01:49.01 | Tem | omen of clarity |
| 01:49.27 | Tem | haha, the screenshot for spellsteal shows a mage stealing the dranei hot from a warrior |
| 01:49.32 | Corrodias | ah. that's in the balance tree, isn't it? didn't go that way. |
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| 01:50.03 | zenzelezz | does spellsteal only work for some "school" of spells? |
| 01:50.06 | GeoDaMancer | I swear, misspellings will be the death of me. |
| 01:50.52 | Corrodias | debuffs can be of four types that i'm aware of, but i don't know that buffs have a type |
| 01:51.23 | GeoDaMancer | There are only 4 types of debuffs? |
| 01:51.31 | zenzelezz | just curious if you could potentially spellsteal Retaliation and the like |
| 01:51.34 | AnduinLothar | curse, magic, poison.. |
| 01:52.06 | Tem | disease |
| 01:52.19 | Corrodias | my druid can cure only two :( |
| 01:52.31 | MentalPower | there are different buff types, tho not the ones you expect |
| 01:52.31 | Tem | pallies 3 |
| 01:52.32 | MentalPower | HELPFUL, HARMFUL, PASSIVE, CANCELABLE, NOT_CANCELABLE |
| 01:52.48 | Corrodias | oh, hey, i bet "recently bandaged" is another debuff type |
| 01:52.57 | Corrodias | or is -of- another debuff type |
| 01:53.19 | Tem | that's the type of that can't be dispelled by anything |
| 01:53.19 | Tem | (even immunity) |
| 01:53.19 | Corrodias | i wonder what a harmful debuff is |
| 01:53.19 | Corrodias | *buff |
| 01:53.24 | Tem | impending doom? |
| 01:53.37 | Tem | search for an offhand with that name |
| 01:53.38 | Corrodias | i don't know what that is |
| 01:53.39 | MentalPower | I know of a beneficial debuff (Aspect of the Red) |
| 01:53.46 | Tem | I know of a few more |
| 01:54.00 | Tem | all the buffs you get in WSG and AB |
| 01:54.14 | Tem | the haste, bezerker, rejuv |
| 01:54.16 | Tem | all debuffs |
| 01:54.20 | Tem | which annoys me |
| 01:54.22 | Corrodias | really? that's interesting |
| 01:54.29 | Tem | because if I iceblock, I lose bezerker |
| 01:54.38 | Corrodias | but i wonder why we have harmful buffs |
| 01:54.50 | Corrodias | both of those ideas are kind of bizarre |
| 01:55.00 | Hexarobi | yq |
| 01:55.02 | Hexarobi | ya |
| 01:55.25 | MentalPower | Corrodias: http://thottbot.com/?i=11666 Goes into ---> http://thottbot.com/?sp=5024 |
| 01:56.15 | Corrodias | ah yes. i should have realized. i have that thing. :/ okay, so both effects are part of a single buff. is that buff of several types or -just- the harmful type? |
| 01:57.32 | MentalPower | dunno |
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| 02:07.03 | Kirkburn | I made my first admin edit :P |
| 02:07.32 | Kirkburn | It's like, woah :D |
| 02:07.43 | Tem | Kirkburn, wiki admin? |
| 02:07.48 | Kirkburn | Ya |
| 02:09.01 | Kirkburn | And with that, I leave you fine folks ... |
| 02:09.05 | Hexarobi | peace out |
| 02:09.34 | zenzelezz | now Kirk, bring the search box to the top of the menu! |
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| 02:11.00 | Kirkburn | You want me to fix the search box? That's crazy talk! |
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| 02:11.18 | Kirkburn | Despite that, I shall see what I can do |
| 02:11.27 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know if UnitHealth() will return the exact health of party members |
| 02:11.29 | Kirkburn | I just deleted one link from the sidebar which should bring it up a bit |
| 02:11.36 | GeoDaMancer | What type of search box is it, like what does it work off of? |
| 02:11.38 | Tem | hyperChipmunk, FuBar_BattlegroundFu\BattlegroundFu.lua:481: Glory-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `NodeToPOI' (out of bounds: [1, 4] expected, got 5) |
| 02:11.45 | GeoDaMancer | Wait, don't mine that. >.> |
| 02:12.27 | Kirkburn | I don't think I'll be able to do anything yet though - we don't have CSS access until Rustak upgrades (which he's planning on doing very soon) |
| 02:12.55 | zenzelezz | just hate having to scroll so far down all the time to do a search =D |
| 02:13.27 | Kirkburn | The 'development' box should no longer be needed soon ... hopefully |
| 02:14.37 | Kirkburn | Which reminds me ... fixed some stuff on that bar :P |
| 02:15.14 | Kirkburn | On sept. 2nd my job will be to go through the wiki and fix all the race name references :/ |
| 02:15.24 | Kirkburn | i.e. Night Elf --> night elf |
| 02:16.15 | War | I see no conflicts here, you're all too nice. I'm off to #deathanddestructionwithbunnies |
| 02:16.22 | War | War out |
| 02:16.46 | zenzelezz | you're in a coding channel, we're too smart not to know about hostmasks |
| 02:17.00 | Kirkburn | Yes, well, ya boo sucks :P |
| 02:17.10 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 02:17.11 | Kirkburn | See ya'll 2moro |
| 02:17.22 | GeoDaMancer | I'm having trouble with something. Is there a way to load all of the helper .lua files before you load the main one? 'Cause, as it is, the PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD event is triggering before one of my other neededfiles is loading. |
| 02:17.41 | Kirkburn | Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! |
| 02:17.52 | zenzelezz | put them in the right order in the .toc? |
| 02:18.06 | Tem | PEW *will not* occur before files are loaded **unless** they are loaded by a lod addon |
| 02:18.37 | MentalPower | yeah, what Tem said |
| 02:19.02 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know if UnitHealth() will return the exact health of party members |
| 02:19.12 | MentalPower | GremWarsong: afaik, yes |
| 02:19.23 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm, then that's strange. |
| 02:19.28 | MentalPower | if they're within range |
| 02:19.31 | GremWarsong | hmm... |
| 02:19.50 | MentalPower | IsUnitVisible() or something like that |
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| 02:21.19 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm, then this is really confusing me. *He chuckles.* |
| 02:26.08 | MentalPower | GeoDaMancer: welcome to the club |
| 02:26.25 | GeoDaMancer | Heh. |
| 02:31.35 | GeoDaMancer | Not only will typos be the death of me, but so will missing ']'. |
| 02:32.53 | GeoDaMancer | I'm way to used to php. |
| 02:36.24 | GeoDaMancer | I think I know what the problem is, but I'm not sure. xD |
| 02:44.03 | MentalPower | ~logs |
| 02:44.05 | purl | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
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| 02:44.40 | GeoDaMancer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:46.21 | fotex | hello everyone |
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| 02:48.01 | cogwheel | Hi |
| 02:48.02 | cogwheel | Bye |
| 02:48.41 | Tem | *enter channel* |
| 02:48.43 | Tem | say hi |
| 02:48.53 | Tem | wait 30 seconds |
| 02:48.55 | Tem | leave channel |
| 02:50.15 | MentalPower | GeoDaMancer: yes it will and it does. that's purl's primary purpose in this channel |
| 02:51.53 | GeoDaMancer | Oh, it says: lines that start with a space are not shown. So I put a space in front, smart-allecky. |
| 02:52.11 | zenzelezz | purl was talking about his logs |
| 02:52.48 | GeoDaMancer | I know. I assumed he meant that his logging doesn't encompas lines that start with spaces. xD |
| 03:03.20 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm. |
| 03:05.23 | Tem | why would GetNumMapLandmarks return 4 in AB? |
| 03:05.41 | Tem | there are clearly 5 |
| 03:07.07 | Corrodias | i have yet to try AB :3 |
| 03:07.36 | Tem | it's pretty fun at low levels |
| 03:07.40 | Tem | I despise it on my 60 |
| 03:07.49 | GeoDaMancer | I've never done any of them. xD |
| 03:07.58 | Tem | hate hate hate hate hate AB on my mage |
| 03:08.10 | Tem | it's quite fun on my level 27 rogue though |
| 03:08.26 | Tem | hella easy to ninja nodes since everyone moves so slowly |
| 03:08.37 | Tem | (no mounts and all) |
| 03:09.49 | GeoDaMancer | I'm having some royal trouble. xD table_copy1 = table_1[index]; table_copy2 = table_2[index]; table_copy1 copies alright, and loads the information, while table_copy2 doesn't save anything. Both of the original arrays are structed the same, for the most part too. |
| 03:13.30 | GeoDaMancer | Anyone have a clue why it's behaving like this? |
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| 03:25.00 | MentalPower | GeoDaMancer: can you post the function? |
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| 03:25.35 | GeoDaMancer | Sure, give me a moment. xD |
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| 03:39.39 | GeoDaMancer | Gah, I don't understand how to use pastey. xD |
| 03:39.39 | GeoDaMancer | How do you delete an accidental pastey? |
| 03:39.40 | Cairenn | you don't? you just edit it? |
| 03:39.40 | GeoDaMancer | http://wowi.pastey.net/474 Well, this is where I saved it. Alright then, 'cause I made a double on one of the posts accidentally. xD |
| 03:40.03 | GeoDaMancer | Eep, need to make another change. xD |
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| 03:40.59 | GeoDaMancer | Hey slouken type personage. |
| 03:41.03 | Hexarobi | yos |
| 03:41.17 | Cairenn | hey hey sexy :) |
| 03:41.23 | slouken | hey hey! |
| 03:41.30 | GeoDaMancer | Can I make a suggestion straight to you about the game? xD And it's nothing major, or stupid, I hope, just about a pet peeve. xD |
| 03:41.38 | Cairenn | no, you can't |
| 03:41.44 | Cairenn | he comes here to relax |
| 03:41.52 | GeoDaMancer | Shucks. Alright. *Hushes on that note.* Anyway. |
| 03:42.16 | Cairenn | that's one of the rules of the channel ... no bugging the pirate about work |
| 03:42.34 | Cairenn | that belongs either on the forums, or if it's serious enough, you send it to Iriel or I and we forward it along |
| 03:42.58 | GeoDaMancer | I didn't know that, but now I know. And knowing is half the battle. Ahhhh, alright then. |
| 03:43.25 | Cairenn | aye, which is why I just told you, instead of reaming you a new one ;) |
| 03:43.45 | GeoDaMancer | Sorry, slouken, didn't know that rule. xD I just like to bug people. |
| 03:44.13 | Cairenn | no, random harassment? that's perfectly fine! ;) |
| 03:44.18 | Cairenn | errr, now* |
| 03:50.42 | Cairenn | Kirov: what's your nick on the site? |
| 03:54.11 | Corrodias | i am really starting to dislike warlocks |
| 03:54.28 | Corrodias | i can't actually -do- anything in WSG when there's a warlock around |
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| 04:06.13 | GeoDaMancer | Be back later. |
| 04:06.54 | Corrodias | this warlock can completely stop me in multiple ways from an incredible distance. it's quite disturbing. |
| 04:07.09 | cogwheel | yes we can, can't we ;) |
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| 05:02.49 | MentalPower | gnight folks, got school tommorrow |
| 05:06.49 | Kyahx | cogwheel: I fixed FreeRefills to use the math functions, thanks :) |
| 05:06.58 | Kyahx | allthou, im lazy and haven't updated WoWI |
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| 06:01.43 | s|loup | hi |
| 06:03.52 | Cairenn | hey s|loup |
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| 06:12.14 | GeoDaMancer | Anyone have a chance to look at my pastey? |
| 06:16.42 | Cairenn | post the link up again Geo, others are here now that weren't earlier :) |
| 06:16.59 | GeoDaMancer | http://wowi.pastey.net/474 Wheeee. I think I forgot something in the notes, but I can't remember now. |
| 06:18.44 | GeoDaMancer | Oh yeah! the problem with it. xD |
| 06:18.45 | Iriel | GeoDaMancer : Hm, let me look |
| 06:19.09 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhh, the RE: and the First File are the same thing. xD |
| 06:19.30 | GeoDaMancer | CHARACTER_SKILLS is an empty table. |
| 06:19.38 | GeoDaMancer | Even after I try to assign a value to it. |
| 06:19.47 | Iriel | GeoDaMancer : I completely dont understand the entirety of your thread, you have the same file posted twice? Or are they subtly different? |
| 06:19.58 | GeoDaMancer | The same, I messed up. xD |
| 06:20.25 | GeoDaMancer | I was trying to rename the RE: post, and did that. It's my first time using the pastey system, and I just plain messed up and can't edit it. |
| 06:20.57 | Iriel | Since you never initialize the table entries, how do you expect TALENT_TREE or CHARACTER_SKILLS to be non-nil? |
| 06:21.23 | GeoDaMancer | Because, they pull information from the Second File. |
| 06:21.37 | Iriel | Ah, the non-existant one? |
| 06:22.07 | GeoDaMancer | CRAP! |
| 06:22.11 | GeoDaMancer | One moment. |
| 06:22.49 | GeoDaMancer | I'm going to try this again, one moment. -._ |
| 06:23.44 | GeoDaMancer | I didn't realize I'd posted it three times. Is there someway I can request it to be removed? |
| 06:24.29 | Iriel | Just create a brand new pastey I guess, the old one may expire then, I dunno |
| 06:24.46 | GeoDaMancer | That's what I'm doing. xD |
| 06:27.48 | GeoDaMancer | Here you go. xD http://wowi.pastey.net/479 |
| 06:31.32 | GeoDaMancer | Does that look better? |
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| 06:31.59 | Iriel | You typoed TALENT_TREE_LIST as ALENT_TREE_LIST |
| 06:32.04 | Iriel | is that a cut and paste error? |
| 06:32.46 | GeoDaMancer | Is it at the top of the page? |
| 06:32.47 | Iriel | And Heroic Strike in the 2nd table |
| 06:32.48 | Iriel | Yes |
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| 06:33.22 | GeoDaMancer | That would explain why it wasn't working in the start. xD |
| 06:33.34 | GeoDaMancer | And yes, then the T is a copy/paste error. |
| 06:34.09 | GeoDaMancer | I mean, that was used to get some information about the herioc strike skill, but it kept triggering an error. Thanks for that bit, at lest. xD |
| 06:34.37 | GeoDaMancer | ^least^ |
| 06:34.48 | GeoDaMancer | I was writing that section of it when I'd been awake for 24 hours. xD |
| 06:36.15 | Iriel | So are there any other unexplained issues? |
| 06:36.43 | GeoDaMancer | Er. That wasn't the error being triggered, at least, I don't believe so. |
| 06:37.17 | GeoDaMancer | Wait. Let me rephrase. That doesn't explain the table being of nil value after it was given a value. |
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| 06:38.22 | GeoDaMancer | The CHARACTER_SKILLS = SKILL_LISTINGS[UnitClass("player")]; isn't setting a value, and yes, I'm playing a warrior to test this. xD |
| 06:38.46 | Iriel | Does UnitClass("player") return "Warrior" for sure? |
| 06:38.51 | Iriel | (and not "WARRIOR") ? |
| 06:38.57 | Iriel | I think it does, but I haven't tested it |
| 06:39.34 | GeoDaMancer | Yes, because TALENT_TREE = TALENT_TREE_LIST[UnitClass("player")]; returns the correct information though, and both are using the "Warrior" |
| 06:39.39 | Iriel | Okay |
| 06:39.49 | Iriel | by the way... |
| 06:40.00 | Iriel | local class = UnitClass("player") at the top of the function would save you a function call or two |
| 06:40.17 | GeoDaMancer | Yes, it would. *HE chuckles.* |
| 06:41.11 | Iriel | So what line does it die on? |
| 06:41.25 | GeoDaMancer | 22 in the first file. |
| 06:41.36 | Elkano | Iriel, UnitClass returns both, localized "Warrior" and nonlocalized "WARRIOR" |
| 06:42.02 | krka | function calls are totally way cheaper than introducing locals |
| 06:42.37 | GeoDaMancer | Either way. |
| 06:43.08 | Iriel | So it breaks on line 22 and not 21? |
| 06:43.10 | Iriel | Interesting |
| 06:43.57 | GeoDaMancer | Er, sorry, 21. I had just made changes in my version, and was looking at it. The suggestion you'd made. |
| 06:44.37 | GeoDaMancer | And, I checked for which value it was messing up on, and it -is- the CHARACTER_SKILLS |
| 06:44.48 | Iriel | Well, nowhere do you check that you actually have the talent in the table |
| 06:44.57 | Iriel | Oh, never mind, I see what you did |
| 06:45.02 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah. |
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| 06:45.27 | Iriel | Once you fix Heroic Strike does the problem go away? |
| 06:45.38 | Iriel | Because that'd do it |
| 06:47.01 | cmunn | I like pie. |
| 06:47.35 | GeoDaMancer | Well, yes it would... But, when I checked to see if CHARACTER_SKILLS has a value, it tells me it's {}; right after I assigned it a value. |
| 06:48.23 | Iriel | Well, that wouldn't really help the other bit of code |
| 06:48.29 | Iriel | since it's indexing CHARACTER_SKILLS |
| 06:48.36 | Iriel | and then indexing that |
| 06:49.25 | GeoDaMancer | Yes, it would, since it's a multi-dim array, and trying to set the value of one of the deeper tables. |
| 06:49.50 | krka | multi-dim arrays with string keys can usually be replaced with a single table :P |
| 06:50.04 | krka | just concatenate the strings with an unused char between |
| 06:50.15 | GeoDaMancer | Huh? |
| 06:50.26 | Iriel | Multi-dim tables can be helpful if you need to do iteration over it |
| 06:50.41 | krka | instead of doing table[string1][string2] you could do table[string1 .. ":" .. string2] |
| 06:50.45 | krka | or something line that |
| 06:51.06 | krka | iriel has a valid point though... it really depends on how you intend to use it |
| 06:51.31 | GeoDaMancer | Well, krka, not really, because I have to be able to easily access the second part. |
| 06:51.50 | krka | as in, you have to iterate over it? |
| 06:52.52 | GeoDaMancer | I don't see why, but it does work now. o.O |
| 06:53.26 | GeoDaMancer | Yes. |
| 06:53.27 | Iriel | http://wowi.pastey.net/482 |
| 06:55.46 | Iriel | There's a somewhat better structured version |
| 06:56.01 | GeoDaMancer | I like that change, I should have checked to make sure that the skill is actually in the list. But I don't want it to add skills that aren't in the initial one. |
| 06:59.40 | GeoDaMancer | Thank you for the help. The problem seems to have been in my mispelling somehow. |
| 07:00.20 | Iriel | The misspelling would have broken it because it was in the driver table (the talent one) |
| 07:00.25 | Iriel | but not in the skill table |
| 07:02.03 | GeoDaMancer | Yes, and when I was testing it, I was indexing it wrong. *He shakes his head.* I serious need more sleep. Thanks for the help, I looked over that table like twenty times and never saw it. |
| 07:02.11 | Iriel | And with that, bedtime for me. Goodnight. |
| 07:02.18 | Iriel | A word of advice |
| 07:02.24 | Cairenn | night Iriel :) |
| 07:02.29 | GeoDaMancer | Nighters. |
| 07:02.30 | Iriel | if you have a table that should always have entries, at the very least do |
| 07:02.53 | Iriel | if (not CHARACTER_SKILLS[talentName]) then message("Missing data for " .. talentName); return; end |
| 07:03.12 | GeoDaMancer | That's what I'm writing right into it right now. |
| 07:03.17 | Iriel | remove the message when you're done debugging |
| 07:03.24 | Iriel | or put a local DEBUG flag in your addon |
| 07:07.09 | krka | not sure creating a bunch of function closures is such a good idea |
| 07:07.17 | krka | 14: table.foreach(TALENT_TREE, function(k,v) if string.find(nameTalent, k) then wAdd_Talent(CHARACTER_SKILLS, k, v, curRank) end end); |
| 07:07.47 | Cairenn | ROFL: "Oh man I think I just blogged. Did I blog? I'm sorry, internets. I'm sorry for blogging." |
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| 07:09.35 | GeoDaMancer | Well, I guess I could trigger the string.find(nameTalent, k) inside the wAdd thing. |
| 07:10.41 | GeoDaMancer | But then I'd have to put in a if (wAdd_Talent(nameTalent, k) then break end and I'm not sure you can break out of a foreach. |
| 07:11.00 | krka | creating the closure outside the loops would be an improvement |
| 07:11.13 | GeoDaMancer | Ouutside the loops? |
| 07:13.30 | krka | i'd even do it like this instead of using table.foreach: for k,v in TALENT_TREE do if string.find(nameTalent, k) then wAdd_Talent(CHARACTER_SKILLS, k, v, curRank) end end |
| 07:14.26 | GeoDaMancer | Is there really a difference there? |
| 07:15.51 | krka | not semantically |
| 07:15.55 | krka | but it creates less garbage |
| 07:15.58 | krka | and it's probably faster too |
| 07:16.31 | GeoDaMancer | It does create less garbage? But it calls the function the same amount of times. |
| 07:17.09 | GeoDaMancer | Er, please note that garbage creation is beyond me. |
| 07:18.45 | GeoDaMancer | But, I can see how I could use that and end it faster anyway. |
| 07:19.08 | Corrodias | my hunter is definitely out of action bar slots to put things on... |
| 07:19.21 | GeoDaMancer | I would imagine. |
| 07:19.29 | Corrodias | at least ones i can reach with one hand |
| 07:19.56 | GeoDaMancer | My warrior's on level 17, and has one and half taken up just for the script I'm working on. |
| 07:20.10 | Corrodias | not even counting scattershot, which he's not going to get, i can't imagine where people put everything |
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| 07:20.58 | krka | basically, everywhere in the code where it says "function" it creates a new function closure |
| 07:21.10 | krka | function closures are garbage collected |
| 07:21.57 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhh, and the foreach is a function, whereas the for is a... Control structure. |
| 07:26.24 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 07:26.39 | GeoDaMancer | Heh, thanks for the suggestion, krka, I didn't know about the 'in' operator thing-a-ma-bobber. |
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| 07:50.17 | krka | the garbage doesn't come from the foreach, it comes from function(k, v) if string.find .... end |
| 07:52.01 | krka | the correct usage to do for in that case is this btw: for k, v in pairs(table) do - for k, v in table do is deprecated in lua 5.0 (in fact it doesn't work at all in lua 5.1) |
| 07:52.08 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhh, so I'm just pulling the function(k,v) out. |
| 07:53.45 | GeoDaMancer | Alright, I'll make that change really quick. |
| 07:55.30 | GeoDaMancer | Thanks, krka, I'll see you another time. I should've been in bed two hours ago for classes. xD |
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| 08:47.45 | Corrodias | i don't know if i want my second serious alt to be a warrior or warlock... |
| 08:51.26 | Ov2 | warlocks are kinda sucky for pve at the moment |
| 08:51.36 | Ov2 | warriors can be great in pvp and pve |
| 08:51.52 | Corrodias | warriors seem to be the least of my worries in pvp as a druid |
| 08:58.42 | Corrodias | maybe i just didn't run into many |
| 08:59.01 | Corrodias | warlocks and rogues were easily three times as dangerous |
| 09:00.53 | Kaso | when it says "player not found" when you try to /friend that means theyre not on the server anymore right? |
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| 09:02.20 | Corrodias | i don't know |
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| 09:48.25 | Corrodias | so has blizzard explained, yet, why the blood elves will be sided with the horde? |
| 09:49.08 | s|loup | because they are bad |
| 09:50.22 | Corrodias | unfortunately, that isn't really enough, because the rest of the horde, if not particularly generous, is not "bad". |
| 09:51.40 | s|loup | the blood elves had left the ally with with humans in wc3 so they dont want to come back to them, maybe |
| 09:53.26 | Corrodias | the blood elves even have a captured naaru under their city, from what i understand. that's a direct attack on the allies of the non-demonic forces including the alliance and the horde. |
| 09:53.56 | s|loup | oh and think about the two sides of nightelves and blood elves, nightelves fear the magic and blood elves want to get as much power by magic as they can get |
| 09:54.06 | Kirkburn | I think it's along the lines of the rest of the horde want to help cure them |
| 09:54.15 | Kirkburn | Just like they do with the forsaken |
| 09:54.19 | Corrodias | i fully understand why the blood elves don't get along with the alliance |
| 09:54.52 | Kirkburn | Orcs 'cured' themselves of bloodlust, they would want to try and help the BEs 'cure' themselves of the magical addiction |
| 09:55.13 | Kirkburn | Trolls would go with whatever the orcs do |
| 09:55.15 | Corrodias | i suppose that's possible -- although i'm not sure anybody's trying to "cure" the undead of anything |
| 09:55.18 | s|loup | the forsaken just ally because of the need not to be cured |
| 09:55.27 | Kirkburn | And tauren would likely feel similar to the orcs |
| 09:55.54 | Corrodias | i'm not sure i buy that, but it's a start |
| 09:55.59 | Kirkburn | Ah, true it's not quite the same with the forsaken, but I do think it applies to the BEs |
| 09:56.47 | Kirkburn | Also, if the horde is to fight the demons, they would need the BEs extra power on their side |
| 09:57.02 | Kirkburn | They have no presence in Outland otherwise |
| 10:01.03 | Corrodias | still seems a bit fishy, considering that, after the warlocks, the blood elves are the second least likely to actually want the demons eradicated. it smells of excuses to try to balance the two sides, which i guess it is. >_> |
| 10:01.22 | Corrodias | i don't know that anyone ever said why thrall allows warlocks to run about, either |
| 10:01.47 | Corrodias | i haven't played one yet, though. maybe it's in their quest line. |
| 10:02.34 | Kirkburn | The horde needs everyone it can get |
| 10:02.46 | Kirkburn | Desperate times call for desperate measures :/ |
| 10:03.16 | Kirkburn | I'm off out for a while ... see you later! |
| 10:04.36 | Kirkburn|out | Btw, if anyone notices vandalism on the wiki, poke me and Mikk - we're both admins now and can sort it out |
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| 11:18.41 | wereHamster | does WoW use threads? |
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| 11:56.14 | Mery | uh ohh maintanance i totally forgot =( |
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| 12:07.02 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:08.49 | Mery | morning josh |
| 12:11.33 | wereHamster | morning |
| 12:12.15 | wereHamster | JoshBorke, per user request, I'm adding the combatlog scanner to HealSync again.. I so hate combatlogs.. |
| 12:17.01 | JoshBorke | er, you don't have to do that for me, lol |
| 12:17.10 | JoshBorke | i think HealSync is fine as it is :-) |
| 12:17.28 | JoshBorke | i think it's great because 'it just works' |
| 12:25.20 | wereHamster | not for you, but if someone can't convince the whole guild to use it, then a combatlog scanner is something good to have |
| 12:27.00 | JoshBorke | true |
| 12:27.18 | JoshBorke | personally, if i were to redo HealWatch (shoot me please), I'd probably use ParserLib-1.1 |
| 12:27.19 | wereHamster | and I managed to make it completely without any localization.. |
| 12:27.25 | JoshBorke | very nice |
| 12:29.31 | wereHamster | it looks for "%s's %s heals %s for %d.", gets the spellname, and later if someone starts to cast a heal with a known spellname, it displays the castingbar |
| 12:30.05 | wereHamster | and ParserLib seems to be too complex for my needs.. |
| 12:31.24 | JoshBorke | yes it may be too complex for your needs, but when someone else has it installed, it starts to increase the benefits of using it, imo |
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| 12:52.36 | Thrae | One bad thing about having a job where you don't always work in the morning is that WoW isn't available on Tuesday mornings =/ |
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| 13:43.40 | [RTE] | morning folks |
| 13:46.03 | Kalroth | Lucky sod! |
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| 14:01.13 | JoshBorke | morning [RTE] |
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| 14:12.20 | cmunn | mornin' gangsta's |
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| 14:18.24 | TS|Skrom | wuwu 200+ downloads on my addon in 1 day :D |
| 14:18.29 | TS|Skrom | no comments though :( |
| 14:18.35 | Kirkburn|out | Not a bad sign, that |
| 14:18.37 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 14:18.41 | JoshBorke | nope, 200 is nice |
| 14:18.51 | JoshBorke | what mod? |
| 14:18.58 | TS|Skrom | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4987-1-skroms-heal-help.html |
| 14:18.58 | Beladona | and no comments mean no bugs, that you know of |
| 14:18.59 | Kirkburn|out | Normally people comment to complain :P |
| 14:19.05 | TS|Skrom | good point hehe |
| 14:19.33 | TS|Skrom | duh I can't count... 186 downloads not 200 |
| 14:19.38 | Kirkburn|out | lol |
| 14:19.41 | Kirkburn|out | Near enough |
| 14:19.49 | TS|Skrom | when I first looked I thought I had 181 and 25.. I have 161 and 25 |
| 14:19.52 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5282-Skrom's_Heal_Helper.html |
| 14:20.49 | TS|Skrom | I playtested the current version last night for about 3 hours on my paladin, seemed to work well in a grouop setting. |
| 14:21.03 | TS|Skrom | glad I didn't introduce any bugs in teh last round of changes hehe |
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| 14:26.17 | Kalroth | hej Cide! |
| 14:27.36 | Cide | hi |
| 14:28.46 | Shadowed | Beladona no bugs means somethings going to break horribly later on :p |
| 14:29.43 | JoshBorke | Cide: hello |
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| 14:38.31 | [RTE] | so, any warlocks here? :) |
| 14:40.49 | [RTE] | guilty? :) |
| 14:40.58 | JoshBorke | i'm a warlock! |
| 14:41.28 | [RTE] | so, what do you think of the new talents? |
| 14:42.49 | JoshBorke | i think the destruction one is WAY over-powered |
| 14:43.02 | [RTE] | but for pvp only |
| 14:43.15 | [RTE] | and it needs survivability from demon |
| 14:43.38 | [RTE] | I think it'll have much less use for pve |
| 14:43.56 | JoshBorke | PvE yea, it'll be almost useless |
| 14:44.10 | JoshBorke | not knowing anything about nax, it could be useful during the Nef encounter |
| 14:44.15 | JoshBorke | or goblins in BWL |
| 14:44.26 | [RTE] | true |
| 14:44.45 | [RTE] | I'm thinking SL/Affliction will still be the best raiding build |
| 14:45.01 | [RTE] | however top tier affliction tallents look promising for pve |
| 14:45.29 | [RTE] | I wonder f felguard will be worth 41 points in demo tho |
| 14:46.10 | Osagasu | It'll probably be like the doomguard, but under your control. and not requiring people's deaths. :P |
| 14:47.10 | [RTE] | :P |
| 14:47.12 | Osagasu | the tier 9 Affliction Talent is most certainly a PvP talent. |
| 14:47.25 | [RTE] | no doubt |
| 14:47.25 | Osagasu | Unless they add mobs that know how to dispell |
| 14:47.41 | [RTE] | that is highly unlikelly |
| 14:47.46 | [RTE] | however ... |
| 14:48.04 | [RTE] | Is it only me or Demonology past SL seems weak? |
| 14:48.35 | Osagasu | a lot of classes have only one tier 8 talent. |
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| 14:49.52 | zenzelezz | a Cairenn! |
| 14:49.54 | Osagasu | Come on rank 6... Hurry up and update the PvP rankings, Blizzard! |
| 14:49.58 | Kalroth | G'morning Cairenn :) |
| 14:50.03 | Osagasu | ello Cair. |
| 14:50.05 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 14:50.15 | JoshBorke | mornin' Cairenn |
| 14:51.38 | [RTE] | morning |
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| 14:53.20 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.35 | [RTE] | what did he do? |
| 14:54.06 | Osagasu | Gaim is most certainly a she. Moody little bugger. |
| 14:54.12 | Cairenn | gaim is my IM manager |
| 14:54.14 | Osagasu | '>> |
| 14:54.23 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.28 | Osagasu | :X |
| 14:54.29 | [RTE] | :) |
| 14:54.56 | zinor | if anyones into punk check this out |
| 14:54.58 | zinor | its german but its good |
| 14:54.59 | zinor | www.davidcramer.net/14-RivoDrei-WieFlugzeuge.zip |
| 14:56.12 | zinor | itunes dont wanna let me buy their cd on the german store cuz my accounts american, so im gonna have to go rummage through some stores :) |
| 14:56.33 | Osagasu | hehe |
| 14:56.48 | Osagasu | <3 wowhead. they already have the BC talent calcs on their site |
| 14:57.13 | Mery | so does blizzard? |
| 14:57.21 | Osagasu | Blizzard site is doooown |
| 14:57.45 | Mery | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/talents-and-spells.html |
| 14:57.48 | Mery | working fine for me |
| 14:58.10 | Osagasu | I've had the site loading for 10 minutes now |
| 14:58.25 | wereHamster | JoshBorke, there is no combatlog event that indicates that a party member healed someone, right? |
| 14:58.32 | Mery | i guess it doesn't like you :P |
| 14:58.46 | Osagasu | Or perhaps you're looking at a cache. :P |
| 15:00.09 | Osagasu | You know, I don't know why mages are getting warlock style talents... We don't WANT to take MORE damage from spellcasts! >< |
| 15:02.21 | [RTE] | :) |
| 15:03.04 | [RTE] | I wonder if the sumon elemental for mages is going to be like a pet or like a guardian |
| 15:03.27 | Osagasu | It'll probably be like it was in beta, a guardian. |
| 15:03.52 | [RTE] | as 41 point talent .... |
| 15:03.56 | Osagasu | a very powerful guardian? |
| 15:04.01 | [RTE] | lol :) |
| 15:04.25 | [RTE] | a very powerful banished guardian waaahahahaha |
| 15:04.56 | [RTE] | that spellsteal has me warried thoug |
| 15:05.01 | [RTE] | though* |
| 15:05.20 | Mery | will it only exsist a limited time or untill killed? |
| 15:05.36 | [Ammo] | http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9093/waterwaiterjr7.jpg |
| 15:05.38 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:06.09 | Osagasu | It lasts two minutes. |
| 15:06.21 | Kirkburn|out | Lol, nice |
| 15:06.22 | Osagasu | But it works like a dispell against your enemy, the buff is removed from them |
| 15:07.14 | Osagasu | Now all they need to do is give mages a melee subclass. '>> |
| 15:07.35 | Osagasu | It doesn't say it has a timer |
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| 15:08.47 | Osagasu | Hell it has a reagent. it BETTER not have a time limit. |
| 15:11.01 | [RTE] | I would not be surprised if it was on 2 min timer just as shamies pets |
| 15:11.17 | [RTE] | what's with the 30second cooldown though? :) |
| 15:11.43 | [RTE] | maybe they ment 30 minute? |
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| 15:12.29 | zinor | they do Osagasu? |
| 15:12.51 | zinor | they emailed me asking for the data files for em :P |
| 15:13.17 | TS|Skrom | RTE you can prolly only have one out at a time so a cooldown is irrelavent |
| 15:13.19 | zinor | strange |
| 15:13.44 | zenzelezz | cooldown would matter if it dies and you can't resurrect it |
| 15:13.59 | [RTE] | I'm pritty sure shamys will be able to get both out, fire and earth at the same time, so why not mages? |
| 15:14.08 | TS|Skrom | if you are in a situation where your pet is dying in less then 20 seconds... you are prolly better off without it |
| 15:14.32 | JoshBorke | wereHamster: there is, but not when they START a heal |
| 15:14.34 | zenzelezz | "cooldown is irrelevant" is quite different from "20 seconds don't matter" |
| 15:14.45 | [RTE] | 1-2minute last time + 30 seconds cooldown = 2-4 minions out at any point of time :) |
| 15:14.49 | Kirkburn|out | So far today, me and Mikk have deleted more than 300 (terminated) articles on the wiki, and there's still more left :/ |
| 15:14.58 | TS|Skrom | well it IS a 41 point talent :P |
| 15:15.09 | Osagasu | It STILL costs a 20s reagent. |
| 15:15.09 | zenzelezz | you expected it to be a one-day job Kirk+ |
| 15:15.12 | zenzelezz | *Kirk= |
| 15:15.14 | Kirkburn|out | heh |
| 15:15.14 | zenzelezz | *Kirk? |
| 15:15.20 | Mikk-Zzz | no >.< |
| 15:15.41 | Mery | I have the feeling the reagent is not final... "Arcane Powder" for a "Water" spell |
| 15:15.42 | Kirkburn|out | At least we can finally get the silly stuff sorted :) |
| 15:15.55 | Osagasu | there is no water reagent. |
| 15:16.05 | Mery | well they could make one ... |
| 15:16.22 | Osagasu | Besides, all mage abilities are connected. |
| 15:16.24 | TS|Skrom | having more then one out sounds like a bad idea to me unless they are relativly weak |
| 15:16.31 | Mery | or make it use globe of water... |
| 15:16.44 | Osagasu | No thank you. |
| 15:16.46 | TS|Skrom | refreshing spring water! zomg! |
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| 15:17.39 | TS|Skrom | it could just consume a stack of highest rank summoned water when suimmoned :D |
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| 15:25.37 | TS|Skrom | so someone explain to me what this extended maintenance really means |
| 15:25.51 | TS|Skrom | new hardware on those servers? I play on gul'dan and have NEVER had any kind of serious lag issues... ever |
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| 15:26.11 | TS|Skrom | I hope to all the old gods and maybe a few of the new ones that they don't frickin' break something >< |
| 15:26.17 | cogwheel | They're doing global hardware upgrades to prepare for BC |
| 15:26.49 | TS|Skrom | oh so it's rolling updates for BC... not "we think this server is broke we shall fix it now" |
| 15:26.59 | cogwheel | for the most part |
| 15:27.00 | TS|Skrom | because gul'dan is the farthest thing from broke I've ever seen |
| 15:27.09 | cogwheel | there's still a bit of that going on with some servers ;) |
| 15:27.45 | TS|Skrom | I was just surprised to see gul'dan on there and not stormscale which is where my alliance toons are. SS is absolutely horrendous most niughts |
| 15:28.12 | cogwheel | you have alliance on Stormscale? i'll have to remember that... :P |
| 15:28.17 | TS|Skrom | lol |
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| 15:28.34 | TS|Skrom | Treston level 21 pally rawr |
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| 15:29.05 | cogwheel | My wife and I have a pair of tauren hunters there |
| 15:29.13 | TS|Skrom | nice |
| 15:29.30 | TS|Skrom | Gul'dan and SS are in the same battlegroup |
| 15:29.40 | TS|Skrom | so on my horde I can bg against my guild on ss lol |
| 15:29.55 | Osagasu | Yay, they're upgrading Twisting Nether! |
| 15:37.36 | JoshBorke | ok bye :-) |
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| 15:45.59 | Cide | Osagasu: upgrading TN? |
| 15:46.05 | Cide | oh, the server |
| 15:46.12 | Cide | I was like "that item was already pretty good!" |
| 15:48.38 | cmunn | Heya Cide |
| 15:48.44 | Cide | hi |
| 15:48.51 | Gryphen | heya |
| 15:49.29 | cmunn | The news of CTRA 2 is quite exciting |
| 15:50.11 | Cide | :) |
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| 15:52.07 | Osagasu | Speak, puny mortal! Tell us... are you bringing /ratrevor back? |
| 15:52.10 | Osagasu | '>> |
| 15:52.17 | Cide | afraid not ;) |
| 15:52.21 | Osagasu | :< |
| 15:52.23 | Kaso | oh, i've been meaning to ask, what was the other Mystery mod you were saying about on teh site Cide, i felt so out of the loop not knowing what it was |
| 15:52.33 | oeka | hello guys..this is the wow ui channel am i wrong? |
| 15:52.43 | [RTE] | you are correct |
| 15:52.49 | Osagasu | You are not wrong. |
| 15:52.49 | [RTE] | gigi :) |
| 15:52.50 | oeka | oh ok.. :) |
| 15:52.54 | TS|Skrom | I am Wong |
| 15:52.56 | Cide | Kaso: what mystery mod? :) |
| 15:52.57 | TS|Skrom | John Wong |
| 15:53.05 | cmunn | Give him a cookie! |
| 15:53.20 | [RTE] | choclete chip? |
| 15:53.30 | TS|Skrom | is there any other kind? |
| 15:53.33 | Kaso | "As a number of you may know, we have been developing a rather intricate mod for the past couple months" |
| 15:53.34 | Kaso | that one! |
| 15:53.41 | Cide | that's CTRA2 |
| 15:53.45 | Osagasu | #WoW-I: Where the only thing dirtier than our code is Cair's mind. |
| 15:53.46 | Kaso | oh |
| 15:54.05 | Kaso | howcome you have # CT_RaidAssist 2 as the next item in the list then? |
| 15:54.07 | [RTE] | http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:2mEUpXYfm0MgmM:http://www.bakeco.com/choc%2520chip%2520cookie.jpg |
| 15:54.20 | TS|Skrom | SCRUMPTIOUS |
| 15:54.25 | Osagasu | WRONG! |
| 15:54.28 | Cide | Kaso: what do you mean? |
| 15:54.31 | TS|Skrom | no, it's Wong |
| 15:54.31 | Osagasu | Scrum-ddily-umptious! |
| 15:54.34 | cmunn | It's confusing.. I was misled just as Kaso was. |
| 15:54.36 | TS|Skrom | die flanders |
| 15:54.41 | Kaso | on ctmod.net |
| 15:54.44 | Kaso | you have Current Projects: |
| 15:55.08 | cmunn | CTRA2 and "New Mods" should be in the same bullet if they're the same thing. |
| 15:55.15 | Kaso | CTRA2 is one, and a seperate entery in that list is what i quoted before, suggests there was another |
| 15:55.29 | Cide | ah |
| 15:55.36 | Cide | I guess it was worded poorly :( |
| 15:55.41 | Osagasu | Yeah, the CTRA2 and Other Mods should be sub-bullets. |
| 15:56.19 | Kaso | well at least i can stop feling so left out! |
| 15:56.33 | TS|Skrom | I don't think we will hold it against you cide... |
| 15:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: you testing CTRA2 on Doomhammer by chance? |
| 15:56.42 | TS|Skrom | just don't word your code poorly ;) |
| 15:56.54 | Cide | I'm coding it on doomhammer! |
| 15:56.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Good ;) |
| 15:56.59 | [RTE] | Cide, after completelly recoding CTRA have you fund yet better way to do it? |
| 15:57.01 | [RTE] | :) |
| 15:57.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I play on Doomhammer ;) |
| 15:57.05 | Cide | and then we'll test it with our guild of course |
| 15:57.14 | ScytheBlade1 | How reverse compatable is it? Because I'm willing to help out |
| 15:57.23 | Cide | don't know yet |
| 15:57.27 | Cide | [RTE]: hopefully :) |
| 15:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 15:57.54 | [RTE] | :) you know what they say, program is only near complete when it has been rewritten 3 times :P |
| 15:58.10 | zenzelezz | don't make it backwards compatible if the new one is much better... can be such a pain to make people upgrade their version if the old one isn't broken |
| 15:58.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Drop me an in-game mail (or IRC PM) if I can give it a spin (once you get a bit closer) |
| 15:58.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Char name is Sbo |
| 15:59.12 | TS|Skrom | pronounced Sea-bo? |
| 15:59.19 | oeka | Would a patient and helpful person help me out with my overpower alerter mod thingy. I'm new to this and can't get it to work. |
| 15:59.24 | TS|Skrom | or just Suh-boo |
| 15:59.26 | [RTE] | I agree with zenzelezz, do not make it backwards compatable, bot only bcause it'll be paint to get people to upgrade, but also because backwards compatability usually introduces bugs, look at Intel :) |
| 15:59.46 | TS|Skrom | RTE ftw |
| 15:59.53 | [RTE] | :) |
| 15:59.58 | ScytheBlade1 | The latter, kinda |
| 16:00.01 | Cide | I will make it backwards compatible if it makes sense |
| 16:00.02 | [RTE] | what's up oeka? |
| 16:00.08 | Beladona | oh yeah, and AMD is a picture of perfection too |
| 16:00.15 | TS|Skrom | <3 |
| 16:00.19 | zenzelezz | no-one said so Bela |
| 16:00.24 | Beladona | hehe |
| 16:00.29 | Beladona | its al relative |
| 16:00.34 | Beladona | nothing is bug-free |
| 16:00.37 | [RTE] | :P AMD has backwards compatability too |
| 16:00.38 | wereHamster | ui.worldofwar.net down or just slow? |
| 16:00.39 | TS|Skrom | amd is having my babies |
| 16:00.48 | oeka | I've written this mod to alert me when I can overpower, since bliz doesnt if I'm in a different stance.and its not working |
| 16:00.50 | Cide | if backwards compatibility results in a loss of features, then I'll stray away frmo it |
| 16:01.01 | ScytheBlade1 | and that's fine |
| 16:01.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Just offering what help I can ;) |
| 16:01.12 | [RTE] | paste the code into the pasty and show me |
| 16:01.23 | oeka | whats pasty? |
| 16:01.28 | TS|Skrom | wereHamster, I think they were just scared away by your lycanthropy |
| 16:01.30 | [RTE] | link in the topic |
| 16:01.40 | Cide | we'll probably beta test it with "big"/active raiding guilds |
| 16:01.45 | [RTE] | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.52 | oeka | oh ok |
| 16:01.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Drow, Scorned, and Jugg? |
| 16:01.57 | TS|Skrom | I volunteer my guild! we have 3 members! |
| 16:02.05 | Cide | juggernaut at the very least (our guild :P) |
| 16:02.11 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 16:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I'm on the other side ;) |
| 16:02.23 | Cide | not necessarily guilds on doomhammer though |
| 16:02.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 16:02.39 | [RTE] | I could suggest my guild, but we always have problems getting people to upgrade to new versions, so I don't know :( |
| 16:02.50 | Beladona | ok |
| 16:02.53 | Beladona | question: |
| 16:02.59 | Kirkburn | wereHamster, it's very slow for me |
| 16:03.00 | TS|Skrom | answer |
| 16:03.02 | [RTE] | answer: |
| 16:03.06 | TS|Skrom | too slow |
| 16:03.07 | [RTE] | damn you^ |
| 16:03.13 | ScytheBlade1 | QQ |
| 16:03.17 | Beladona | in a StatusBar, when naming the BarTexture, what is the parent? the StatusBar, or the parent of the StatusBar? |
| 16:03.30 | Kirkburn | The membersui.worldofwar.net version just about works though |
| 16:03.37 | TS|Skrom | Well when a mommy status bar and a daddy status bar love each other very much... |
| 16:03.43 | TS|Skrom | and that's how you find the parents |
| 16:03.44 | Kirkburn | (for authors only, that one, useful to remember) |
| 16:03.45 | Beladona | funny, anyway.... |
| 16:03.52 | oeka | RTE should I paste it all (localization.lua, main.lua and xml) to the same pastey? |
| 16:04.09 | [RTE] | just lua would be enough I think |
| 16:04.18 | [RTE] | xml would not hurt either |
| 16:04.40 | Beladona | no answer, ok guess I find out on my own |
| 16:04.53 | [RTE] | if I remember correctly overpower is available when target dodges, right? |
| 16:05.02 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 16:05.14 | wereHamster | almost like on last week's patchday |
| 16:05.15 | [RTE] | Beladona, sry I do not know :( |
| 16:05.32 | oeka | ok the link is http://wowi.pastey.net/483 |
| 16:05.35 | [RTE] | don't hit me |
| 16:06.06 | Beladona | no worries, I like trial and error |
| 16:06.23 | zenzelezz | I prefer trial and success |
| 16:06.40 | TS|Skrom | I prefer trial and verdict |
| 16:06.41 | Beladona | perhaps, but you learn more in errors |
| 16:07.07 | Beladona | one try, with one success means you found one way it works |
| 16:07.20 | Beladona | several tries, with one success, means you found a way it works, and several that do not |
| 16:08.17 | [RTE] | oeka: don't you need to register another events to your frame? |
| 16:08.34 | [RTE] | like CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_MISSES or others? |
| 16:09.09 | oeka | what do you mean? I haven't been able to find any tutorials and stuff so I've managed to come this far by examining other mods |
| 16:09.33 | oeka | do i need to do that for every frame I have? and doesn't the code in the xml take care of that? |
| 16:09.40 | Beladona | ok that suxxors |
| 16:09.49 | Beladona | 2 more hours fot stupid maintenance |
| 16:10.11 | [RTE] | k, look, there are events, that happen whenever, well something happens :) |
| 16:10.33 | [RTE] | your frame can "listen" to those events, but you need to tell it what events to listen to |
| 16:10.42 | oeka | oh i got it |
| 16:10.46 | [RTE] | that is done by registring events to the frame |
| 16:10.47 | oeka | ohhhhh OK now i got it |
| 16:11.01 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Combat -- I'm only guessing, but would it be UNIT_COMBAT (see bottom) with arg1 "target", arg2 "DODGE"? |
| 16:11.13 | oeka | so in the OnLoad i gotta tell it to listen to other chat windows too |
| 16:11.16 | [RTE] | this:RegisterEvent("VARIABLES_LOADED"); |
| 16:11.32 | [RTE] | you got to register other events just like this one ^ |
| 16:11.43 | oeka | yep ok..thanks for the help |
| 16:11.52 | [RTE] | np, see you soon :) |
| 16:13.04 | [RTE] | afk a min, gotto make sure it looks like I'm working :) |
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| 16:17.32 | [RTE] | does anyone know if there were any new icons on 1.12? |
| 16:17.46 | [RTE] | like spell and item icons |
| 16:18.41 | TS|Skrom | I know that feeling... |
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| 16:20.12 | [RTE] | anyone here uses GuildBankManeger? |
| 16:23.21 | [RTE] | guess not :( |
| 16:23.58 | TS|Skrom | unfortunately I'm neither a guild bank nor a manager :( |
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| 16:28.52 | Sidely | Hi folks. Anyone know what the second argument for UnitName indicates? Line 106 of UnitPopup.lua calls it like this: "name, server = UnitName(unit, true);" What's the "true" for? |
| 16:29.02 | TS|Skrom | realmname |
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| 16:30.10 | TS|Skrom | oh.. nm. don't know what the true is for |
| 16:30.50 | cogwheel | hmmm... |
| 16:30.56 | Hexarobi | i never used a 2nd arg |
| 16:30.59 | Hexarobi | wowwiki? |
| 16:31.05 | cogwheel | nope |
| 16:31.07 | Sidely | Wiki doesn't show anything on the subject. |
| 16:31.23 | [RTE] | I'd speculate that it would be show realm name |
| 16:31.26 | cogwheel | Time for the servers to come up so we can do some empiracal testing... |
| 16:31.33 | [RTE] | I mean even for your realm |
| 16:31.48 | Sidely | Oh. Yeah, that seems probable. |
| 16:33.07 | Hexarobi | how do you get a handle to a player thats not in your realm? |
| 16:33.24 | Sidely | You mean like for a /who? |
| 16:33.35 | Hexarobi | anything |
| 16:33.38 | Hexarobi | can u do it in a who? |
| 16:33.44 | Sidely | Not sure. |
| 16:33.57 | Hexarobi | you cant send tells, you cant send email? |
| 16:34.53 | Sidely | You can whisper people from other realms by suffixing their name with their realm's name. But that doesn't seem to work for /who |
| 16:37.16 | Hexarobi | ooo i did not know that |
| 16:37.26 | Hexarobi | do they need to be on your faction? |
| 16:37.41 | Sidely | Er, yeah. |
| 16:37.50 | Hexarobi | is there any way to do realm-wide channels? |
| 16:38.19 | Hexarobi | i could dedicate an account to bouncing tells out to a list of listners |
| 16:38.30 | Hexarobi | and make a realm-wide channel for wowchess |
| 16:38.53 | Sidely | Nope, I don't think you can. |
| 16:39.48 | cogwheel | Telepathy has a global communication library |
| 16:39.49 | Hexarobi | cant do which? |
| 16:40.08 | Hexarobi | well shit on my balls and call be suzy |
| 16:40.16 | Hexarobi | ill need to check that out |
| 16:40.45 | cogwheel | You'd probably want to only use it for finding players and then use whispers (also provided by Telepathy) for the actual game |
| 16:41.00 | cogwheel | in case a whole lot of people decide to play chess ;) |
| 16:41.09 | Hexarobi | hehe ya |
| 16:41.23 | Hexarobi | but for finding players across realms |
| 16:41.26 | Hexarobi | would be AWESOME =) |
| 16:41.38 | Hexarobi | right now the biggest problem is finding opponents |
| 16:41.43 | cogwheel | Heh... sit in a BG playing chess? ;) |
| 16:41.59 | Hexarobi | do u have to be in a BG to use it? |
| 16:42.13 | cogwheel | you have to be in a BG to encounter anyone from other realms... |
| 16:42.53 | Hexarobi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.06 | cogwheel | But can't you only do that in a BG? |
| 16:43.15 | Hexarobi | i dunno, this is the first ive heard of it |
| 16:43.19 | Hexarobi | if so, effing lame |
| 16:43.31 | cogwheel | It would make sense to me... |
| 16:43.40 | Sidely | Yeah, you can only do it in battlegrounds. |
| 16:43.51 | Sidely | I thought that was obvious from the context. |
| 16:44.38 | cogwheel | Imagine how much laggier it would get if people could communicate cross-realm outside of BGs... |
| 16:47.44 | zenzelezz | SWG had something like that... servername.charactername |
| 16:48.01 | zenzelezz | one of the few things I learned from my two weeks in SWG |
| 16:49.19 | cogwheel | Yeah but how many servers did they have and how many chars on each? |
| 16:58.34 | Hexarobi | EQ did too |
| 16:58.47 | Hexarobi | you could join other servers channels too |
| 16:58.56 | TS|Skrom | you can chat from eq to eq2 as well |
| 16:59.02 | Hexarobi | it was actually very helpful |
| 17:01.54 | oeka | Can I cast spells inside a function with CastSpellByName ? |
| 17:02.05 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 17:02.31 | oeka | what could possibly go wrong if it doesnt :D |
| 17:02.39 | TS|Skrom | make sure that you are responding to a hardware event |
| 17:02.41 | zenzelezz | doesn't cast? |
| 17:02.47 | oeka | yes doesnt cast |
| 17:02.53 | oeka | what do you mean "hardware event"? |
| 17:02.55 | TS|Skrom | it won't cast wihtout a button click or a keyboard press |
| 17:03.12 | zenzelezz | also make sure you haven't typoed the spell name and stuff |
| 17:03.32 | TS|Skrom | yep, a typo will silently fail, no error message and no cast either |
| 17:03.39 | oeka | I'm trying to do a warrior adaptation of autorogue |
| 17:03.48 | Kaso | whats the shortened string.find ? |
| 17:03.48 | oeka | cast overpower if its available |
| 17:04.03 | TS|Skrom | it won't cast without a keypress |
| 17:04.44 | zenzelezz | oeka: like Skrom says, you can't do casts unless you have a hardware event, which means that you have pushed a button on the keyboard or mouse |
| 17:04.59 | oeka | but i've heard that the autorogue mod kicks without the need to press something. is it a different kinda thing or the guy who told me this is lying |
| 17:05.00 | zenzelezz | so you can't have it automatically hit Overpower when you see "dodge", you need to push a key |
| 17:05.20 | zenzelezz | as far as I'm aware he should be wrong... |
| 17:05.21 | TS|Skrom | the way autorogue works is you just spam one key and the addon decides which spoell to actually use |
| 17:05.25 | TS|Skrom | you sitll have to hit a key |
| 17:05.30 | oeka | oh i got it.. |
| 17:05.31 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 17:05.41 | TS|Skrom | if targetiscasting(cast kick) |
| 17:05.43 | zenzelezz | sounds like "warriorbutton" or whatever that one is called |
| 17:05.45 | TS|Skrom | stuf like that |
| 17:05.53 | oeka | hehe :) |
| 17:05.56 | oeka | thanks for the help guys |
| 17:06.44 | TS|Skrom | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2912 |
| 17:09.07 | zenzelezz | personally I can't see how people can enjoy playing using such mods, but I guess it's a personal opinion thing =) |
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| 17:09.33 | TS|Skrom | well... I wrote my heal helper so I didn';t have to keep 3-7 heals out on my bars |
| 17:09.33 | TS|Skrom | but other then that... yeah I agree |
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| 17:12.19 | TS|Skrom | I just can't see how a static script can always make the right choices for you |
| 17:12.19 | TS|Skrom | sometimes you just don't NEED a hamstring, you know? lol |
| 17:12.20 | zenzelezz | quite |
| 17:12.21 | oeka | what are the parameters of the AddMessage function |
| 17:12.21 | oeka | im seeing 6 of them and it doesnt make sense to me |
| 17:12.21 | oeka | MSG, 1, 1, 1, 1 ,1 |
| 17:12.32 | Osagasu | Servers need to gome up. |
| 17:12.45 | Osagasu | Or more to the point, THE PVP RANKS NEED TO BE UPDATED! GAAAH! |
| 17:13.01 | Kirov | oeka - msg, r, g, b, a, index |
| 17:14.15 | TS|Skrom | Text, red, green, blue, luminance |
| 17:14.15 | TS|Skrom | I think |
| 17:14.16 | TS|Skrom | oh and hold time |
| 17:14.39 | oeka | Can't I choose the duration the message will be shown |
| 17:14.51 | oeka | its stays up for about 3-4 seconds |
| 17:15.00 | TS|Skrom | kirov I think that only applies for the scrollingmessage frame |
| 17:15.00 | Kirov | msg, r, g, b, a, holdtime |
| 17:15.12 | TS|Skrom | the index that is |
| 17:15.13 | Kirov | TS|Skrom -yeah, just realized that myself |
| 17:15.36 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_MessageFrame_AddMessage |
| 17:16.17 | oeka | oh ok thanks once again :D |
| 17:28.02 | Beladona | I hate how the pvp ranks are assigned |
| 17:28.58 | Beladona | the whole, skipping 1-4 |
| 17:30.41 | Kirkburn | Good thing it's changing, then :P |
| 17:33.25 | Osagasu | I'm hoping to skip 5 and go straight to 6 |
| 17:33.49 | Osagasu | I got like 60k honor last week, and my server is newso it is possible |
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| 18:00.06 | oeka | is there a way to detect if my target is casting a spell? |
| 18:00.21 | Kirov | parse the combat log for "starts casting" |
| 18:01.07 | oeka | hmm..i've done (.+) for names and stuff when someone dodged. is it the same concept with that one or do i need to do a different thing |
| 18:01.57 | Kirov | yes |
| 18:02.40 | oeka | thanks for the info kirov :) |
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| 18:16.24 | Beladona | servers up? |
| 18:17.23 | wereHamster | wowinterface.com: There seems to have been a slight problem with the database. |
| 18:17.44 | wereHamster | hm.. works again |
| 18:17.57 | Thrae | Beladona: 3pm EST for most servers |
| 18:19.29 | oeka | Anybody know the name of "Hostile Players Damage Spells" frame? |
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| 18:21.39 | Kirkburn | The char creation vid I'm watching for the expansion is absolutely gorgeous |
| 18:22.05 | Thrae | Link? |
| 18:22.06 | Kirkburn | The customization choices are awesome |
| 18:22.25 | Kirkburn | http://rapidshare.de/files/31079776/BCCharCreationHiR.wmv |
| 18:22.34 | Kirkburn | It's about 60 MB |
| 18:22.43 | Kirkburn | Goes through all the options |
| 18:23.52 | zenzelezz | and most of us will be stuck with an "old" look? |
| 18:24.14 | Kirkburn | Well, it's _possible_ Blizz will update the older stuff |
| 18:24.35 | Kirkburn | Depends on how much time they have, I guess |
| 18:26.54 | Kaso | why are there no random Naxxramas drops for healers :< |
| 18:31.23 | Ov2 | who runs the bluetracker? |
| 18:34.26 | jaxdahl | the 'view thread' link is broken.. links to http://en/... and http://us/... |
| 18:36.14 | Kirkburn | no idea, but have you done the contact thingy? |
| 18:36.32 | Kirkburn | It was just updated today, so it's sounds like a little mistake was made |
| 18:39.22 | Kirkburn | This is silly, Blizzard have the alpha up for public download, but they insist on coming after fansite because people are looking at it :/ |
| 18:39.37 | Kirkburn | The wiki got a DCMA notice this morning |
| 18:40.21 | Kirkburn | (and I'm guessing so did worldofwar.net because the front page alpha stuff they had has mysteriously disappeared) |
| 18:42.27 | [RTE] | guys, quick question, we cannot move using some functions anymore, can we? |
| 18:42.58 | krka | nope, i got rid of that :) |
| 18:43.02 | Kirov | all move functions are protected |
| 18:43.09 | [RTE] | yep, thought so |
| 18:43.18 | Kirov | MovePad is the only UI that you can click and move |
| 18:43.22 | [RTE] | I had an interesting idea for a programming chalange |
| 18:43.34 | [RTE] | actually it can still work ... |
| 18:43.45 | [RTE] | idea of a 1-key character |
| 18:44.16 | [RTE] | basically you write your own addon to "think for your character" ie cast proper spells etc, and bind it to 1 key |
| 18:44.34 | [RTE] | then you put those "bots" in 1v1 fight on PTR |
| 18:44.40 | [RTE] | and see whos can win |
| 18:44.57 | [RTE] | except for that one key you are only allowed to hit movement keys |
| 18:45.48 | Kirov | so ... basically mage wins? |
| 18:45.54 | [RTE] | not really |
| 18:46.20 | Kirov | or a warrior |
| 18:46.25 | [RTE] | I'm pritty sure you can put togather a pritty good ai for war or rogue |
| 18:46.26 | Kirov | there's already an addon for that |
| 18:46.32 | Kirov | rogues are harder |
| 18:46.40 | Kirov | at least for dagger rogues |
| 18:46.41 | [RTE] | thats the point :) |
| 18:46.53 | [RTE] | you need to take into account alot of variables |
| 18:46.56 | Kirov | sword rogues you already only have 1 button |
| 18:47.08 | [RTE] | that can be a pritty interesting chalange |
| 18:47.25 | Kirov | sinister strike, sinister strike, sinister strike, sinister strike, sinister strike, sinister strike |
| 18:47.33 | [RTE] | you need to keep in mind class of the opponent, posible abilities and counters |
| 18:48.05 | [RTE] | we ca write an API addon that can help with the actual creation |
| 18:48.08 | Kirov | Rogues and Warroirs already have full featured addons that do this though. |
| 18:48.17 | jaxdahl | AutoRogue |
| 18:48.27 | Kirov | Warrior one is particularly old |
| 18:48.36 | [RTE] | I'm pritty sure they can be upgraded |
| 18:48.42 | jaxdahl | Kirkburn, grats on admin? |
| 18:48.48 | Kirov | ooo |
| 18:48.48 | Kirkburn | Thanks :P |
| 18:48.50 | [RTE] | and I'll probably write one for a lock that will beat em |
| 18:48.59 | Kirov | Kirky is a wiki admin? |
| 18:49.08 | Kirkburn | Kirky is indeedy wiky admin |
| 18:49.09 | Kirov | You can ban the evil-bad-man? |
| 18:49.16 | Kirkburn | What, Mikk? ;) |
| 18:49.18 | jaxdahl | argh, still can't login to wow forums |
| 18:50.13 | Kirkburn | I can block people, yes :P So can Mikk, he's the other new admin :) |
| 18:50.43 | Kirkburn | To dinner! |
| 18:54.29 | [RTE] | I looked at AutoRogue |
| 18:54.34 | [RTE] | it is quite complex |
| 18:54.41 | Kirkburn|food | Mikk: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Burning_Crusade_DMCA_Takedown_Notice&rcid=132581 |
| 18:54.52 | [RTE] | but still I'm not sure you can win with it just by pressing 1 button |
| 18:57.39 | [RTE] | what was on those imaged? |
| 18:58.07 | Gryphen | errm, game images |
| 18:58.32 | Gryphen | hehe |
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| 19:03.18 | [RTE] | well duh |
| 19:04.10 | Gryphen | look at delete log, mounts |
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| 19:06.48 | Kirkburn | It wouldn't surprise me if we get more ... there are other alpha images on the wiki |
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| 19:28.06 | jaxdahl | it indicates to me that Blizzard is cool with the wiki using other 'public' images |
| 19:28.16 | Kirkburn | Why? |
| 19:28.17 | jaxdahl | just not unreleased stuff |
| 19:28.33 | jaxdahl | well, you haven't gotten any other DMCA notices for the 100s of other images, icons, etc |
| 19:28.35 | jaxdahl | right? |
| 19:28.43 | Kirkburn | Well, yes, we are allowed that stuff afaik :) |
| 19:28.51 | jaxdahl | explicitly? |
| 19:29.20 | Kirkburn | Not sure, but it would be _impossible_ to stop people taking screenshots of the game |
| 19:29.36 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Kel%27Thuzad |
| 19:29.41 | jaxdahl | check the first paragraph |
| 19:29.46 | jaxdahl | and how it overlaps with the box on the right |
| 19:29.50 | jaxdahl | is there a way to fix that? |
| 19:30.06 | Mikk | jaxdahl: There's a clause on blizzard's page saying that they allow use of wow graphics for fan sites. |
| 19:30.13 | jaxdahl | check out how i'm doing my realm's "sticky" (not sticky yet): http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12051270&sid=1 |
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| 19:30.24 | jaxdahl | Mikk, ah. |
| 19:30.27 | Kirkburn | To text overlap here ... |
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| 19:30.33 | Kirkburn | *No |
| 19:30.43 | jaxdahl | Firefox 1.5.0.1 here |
| 19:30.47 | jaxdahl | .6 i mean |
| 19:31.00 | Kirkburn | It overlaps the contents box? |
| 19:31.07 | jaxdahl | yes' |
| 19:31.26 | Kirkburn | Are you sure? :/ And this is on XP? |
| 19:31.35 | jaxdahl | aye |
| 19:31.43 | Mikk | Yeah I see it also |
| 19:31.48 | Mikk | same FF, win2k |
| 19:32.00 | Kirkburn | Aaah, I see now |
| 19:32.03 | Mikk | i'll fix it |
| 19:32.10 | jaxdahl | thanks Mikk |
| 19:32.21 | Kirkburn | The contents box is too low down |
| 19:32.32 | Kirkburn | It was just the first line, right? |
| 19:32.39 | Mikk | yeah |
| 19:32.52 | Kirkburn | I don't get it in IE7, but I saw it in FF |
| 19:33.01 | Mikk | first time i've seen FF do that =P |
| 19:33.24 | Mikk | jaxdahl: fixed |
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| 19:45.34 | [RTE] | wow forums down again? |
| 19:45.43 | [RTE] | or just slow? |
| 19:47.04 | Cairenn | messing up for me |
| 19:48.14 | [RTE] | man, I hate tuesdays |
| 19:50.19 | oeka | Can I get the name of the target with any function? |
| 19:50.57 | [RTE] | UnitName("target") |
| 19:51.38 | oeka | thanks once more :). one last thing (hopefully) do you know the channel which sends "mob begins to cast .." messages? |
| 19:54.07 | [RTE] | combatlog? |
| 19:54.32 | [RTE] | take a look at spellalert |
| 19:54.38 | [RTE] | it should have that bit in it |
| 19:56.54 | Kaso | oeka: its CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_VS_x where x depends on who it was casted on |
| 19:57.00 | Kaso | see http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/C |
| 19:57.51 | Kirov | The forum index and the posts themselves don't seem to sync up |
| 19:58.31 | oeka | yeah apparently SELF doesn't work and it shows in the CREATURE part but I've tried both and didn't get any results. works on normal players tho. |
| 19:58.44 | Kirov | the "Time Event?" post is shown as being replied to by Iriel, but the post itself doesn't show it |
| 20:02.56 | Kirov | CREATURE_VS_SELF are spells on you |
| 20:06.04 | Kirov | CREATURE_VS_CREATURE are spells on itself |
| 20:09.04 | zenzelezz | can't it be other NPCs? Or do we not get a message for that, like when they start to heal an ally? |
| 20:09.46 | Kirov | CREATURE_VS_CREATURE is all NPCs, themselves or others |
| 20:10.01 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 20:14.58 | TS|Skrom | I KNEW IT |
| 20:15.01 | TS|Skrom | they brok Gul'Dan |
| 20:15.14 | Kirov | broke? |
| 20:15.15 | TS|Skrom | Takes like twice as long to load the character select now >< |
| 20:15.20 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 20:15.37 | TS|Skrom | it's just me being paranoid... gul'dan was scheduled for "extra" maintenance today |
| 20:15.56 | TS|Skrom | I've never had a lick of lag at all on gul'dan... so I was saying earlier that they were prolly gonna break it or something |
| 20:16.19 | TS|Skrom | Maybe break it on purpose as kind of a "reverse curve" so all the other servers look better by comparison haha |
| 20:17.35 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom, it's tuesday shortly after maintenance... there's always a bit of extra traffic on the login servers... |
| 20:18.11 | TS|Skrom | I know man I was just being overly dramatic ;) |
| 20:18.17 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 20:18.30 | Kirov | "min latency across all realms forced to 1500 to fix complaints about certain realms being faster than others." |
| 20:18.40 | cogwheel | Damned commies! |
| 20:19.44 | TS|Skrom | haha kirov that's the ticket! |
| 20:23.25 | Cide | damnit |
| 20:23.33 | Cide | we need a way to target released bodies with spells |
| 20:24.13 | Mikk | yes plx |
| 20:24.14 | Cide | or just have SpellTargetUnit("target") try to target their released body.. |
| 20:24.23 | Mikk | yes =) |
| 20:24.25 | Cide | err, "unit" not "target" |
| 20:24.30 | Kaso | i wholeheartedly agree |
| 20:24.47 | Cide | rezzing released people in a raid = nightmare |
| 20:24.52 | Mikk | lavajumping to find people's corpses @ rag is getting old |
| 20:24.53 | wereHamster | and the spell-target name in argX when SPELLCAST_START is fired |
| 20:24.58 | Cide | Mikk: yep |
| 20:25.49 | Cide | wereHamster: that'd be nice, but I don't think they're going to add that :/ |
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| 20:26.49 | wereHamster | too bad because I'll never hook any functions.. |
| 20:27.01 | Cide | why not? |
| 20:27.12 | Cide | I think that's being overly conservative :P |
| 20:27.59 | jaxdahl | removing the 6 minute timer helped a lot |
| 20:29.14 | wereHamster | adding the additional argX wouldn't reveal any new information to addons and I don't understand why Blizzard doesn't want to do that |
| 20:29.40 | Mikk | hm? it reveals a lot |
| 20:29.57 | wereHamster | nothing you can't get now |
| 20:30.05 | wereHamster | by hooking the fuctions |
| 20:30.29 | Mikk | ohyeah that's true.. you can do UnitName("mouseover") |
| 20:30.40 | Mikk | which is ugly as hell but certainly doable |
| 20:30.49 | Mikk | (yes cide i know you do it =)) |
| 20:31.19 | wereHamster | hooking functions is stupid, especially if the little work on Blizzards side would make it obsolete |
| 20:31.19 | Kirov | UnitName("mouseover") returns nil on dead bodies |
| 20:31.35 | Kirov | If they've released |
| 20:31.43 | Kirov | the tooltip info is driven by the client. |
| 20:32.18 | Cide | yup |
| 20:32.24 | Cide | need to scan tooltiptext |
| 20:32.36 | Cide | and then parse the "...'s Corpse" |
| 20:32.49 | Cide | which still isn't 100% accurate |
| 20:33.12 | wereHamster | but doable.. |
| 20:33.22 | Cide | if you have seen CTRA's resurrection monitor reading "Player: Ragnaros" you know what I'm talking about |
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| 20:38.14 | GeoDaMancer | Wheeee! |
| 20:40.36 | Cide | hi |
| 20:40.43 | GeoDaMancer | 'Lo. |
| 20:40.43 | Gryphen | heya |
| 20:43.31 | Kaso | Hmm, im gonna have to try to force that bug :> |
| 20:44.42 | zenzelezz | yay, stuck at "Authenticating" |
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| 20:45.42 | zenzelezz | it's not even midnight, the pre-maintenance lag shouldn't be starting yet |
| 20:49.29 | [RTE] | time to go home |
| 20:49.32 | [RTE] | later folks |
| 20:49.33 | GeoDaMancer | Does CastSpellByName("Name") cancel your auto-attack if you use it for fighter type skills? |
| 20:49.48 | [RTE] | shouldn't |
| 20:50.02 | Kirov | GeoDaMancer - no |
| 20:50.21 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm, that's weird. *Goes to check his script again.* |
| 21:00.41 | Gngsk | is it not possible to see the blizz code for the global functions listed at http://www.wowwiki.com/Global_Function_List#Main_Game_Functions ? |
| 21:01.18 | Gngsk | I can't seem to find code for DoReadyCheck() |
| 21:01.40 | cogwheel | Those are API functions. They're written in C but accessible from Lua |
| 21:01.49 | Cide | fuck the forums |
| 21:01.51 | Cide | fuck them |
| 21:02.05 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.11 | Gngsk | cogwheel, ahh, that makes sense. thanks |
| 21:02.12 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.13 | Cide | I've written up a decently long post, only to have the forums error and eat my post |
| 21:02.25 | Kirkburn | Not able to get it by going back? |
| 21:02.29 | Cide | nope |
| 21:02.35 | Kirkburn | Ach, annoying |
| 21:02.36 | Cide | I would write it in a text file but I'm not writing up that shit again |
| 21:02.57 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:03.10 | GeoDaMancer | I agree Cide! |
| 21:03.16 | GeoDaMancer | Screw all forums! |
| 21:03.37 | Cairenn | I'd rather screw ... nm |
| 21:03.42 | Cide | does someone else want to type out a post about spelltargetunit (too angry to use correct capitalization!) not targeting released players? I'm not going to bother now |
| 21:03.50 | Cide | let's hear it Cairenn! |
| 21:03.54 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:04.34 | Cairenn | Cide: and now you know why I *always* save anything extensive to a text editor *first* before trying to put it on the stupid blizz forums |
| 21:04.48 | Cide | well it was only like one paragraph |
| 21:04.53 | Cide | but wording it took forever |
| 21:05.11 | Cide | oh well |
| 21:05.18 | Cide | it's lost in the nether and shall remain there |
| 21:05.19 | cogwheel | If I could access the forums, maybe... |
| 21:06.08 | Kaso | I'd post, but, EU forums are just for fun, they dont serve a real purpose |
| 21:07.12 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 21:09.06 | Kaso | Its nice we have a new blizz poster on the r&d, its a shame he doesnt seem to have any more infulance than any random poster |
| 21:09.48 | GeoDaMancer | AHHHH! LAGGING! |
| 21:10.01 | Cide | Kaso: who? |
| 21:10.03 | Cide | oh, on EU? |
| 21:10.06 | Kaso | yah |
| 21:10.11 | Cide | ah |
| 21:10.18 | Cide | I was like.. yeah, tigole has some influence..! |
| 21:10.29 | Kirkburn | Who's Tigole? ;) |
| 21:10.52 | Cide | Jeff Kaplan! |
| 21:11.01 | TS|Skrom | I thought kaplan was ariel |
| 21:11.12 | Kirkburn | Recognisesarcasmbythesmileyfool! |
| 21:11.43 | Cide | Kirkburn: I did, hence my "!" :) |
| 21:11.45 | Kirkburn | Ariel? Um, isn't she a mermaid? |
| 21:11.50 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 21:11.53 | AnduinLothar | was |
| 21:11.57 | Kaso | i wish we'd get some responces to important threads on EU, like the "The C'thun hotfix still hasnt been applyed to EU" thread. |
| 21:12.09 | Kirkburn | Aha, but I doubled the sarcasm by knowing that already Cide :P |
| 21:12.27 | TS|Skrom | nm Arial is Rob Pardo |
| 21:12.27 | Cide | well I was sarcastic when I said I already knew! ... |
| 21:12.39 | Kirkburn | Triple whammy! /me dies |
| 21:12.53 | Cide | I thought Arial was a font! |
| 21:13.00 | TS|Skrom | Tigole and Ariel were both in Legacy of Steel back in the EQ day ;) |
| 21:13.07 | Cide | oh, in EQ? |
| 21:13.17 | Cide | ts was in legacy of steel for a while |
| 21:13.18 | Kirkburn | Tigole Bitties |
| 21:13.25 | TS|Skrom | Who was TS? |
| 21:13.29 | TS|Skrom | like toon name? |
| 21:13.41 | Cairenn | LoS? more like FoH :p |
| 21:13.46 | TS|Skrom | O.o |
| 21:13.48 | TS|Skrom | :p |
| 21:14.03 | Cide | legacy of steel in EQ |
| 21:14.04 | TS|Skrom | I'm proud of the LoS crew, I hailed from The Nameless, myself :D |
| 21:14.09 | Cide | well |
| 21:14.11 | Cide | they were in FoH too |
| 21:14.14 | Kirkburn | And Furor Planedefiler |
| 21:14.27 | Cide | ts' name was Wilbur in EQ |
| 21:14.36 | Cide | not sure if that was his name on that specific server though |
| 21:14.40 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
| 21:14.51 | TS|Skrom | Don't remember any wilbur's in los...maybe he went by something else |
| 21:14.59 | TS|Skrom | alot of LOS and FOH are on blizz dev now |
| 21:15.07 | TS|Skrom | er oldskool los and foh that is :D |
| 21:16.32 | Cide | forums are way fucked up right now |
| 21:17.02 | Cairenn | oh yeah |
| 21:17.07 | Cairenn | have been for a few hours now |
| 21:18.40 | Cairenn | honestly? they need to just install phpbb or vBI and be done with it :p |
| 21:18.49 | Mikk | no kidding |
| 21:19.06 | GeoDaMancer | Too easy to hack those kinds of forums. |
| 21:19.06 | Mikk | just install their auth thingy in the backend |
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| 21:19.21 | Kirov | Anyone here used HomePlug devices? |
| 21:22.20 | cmunn | Not I, said the little red hen. |
| 21:24.02 | Rallion | gah, my wrist hurts...hmm...should I hit enter and actually say that? yes, yes i will. |
| 21:26.06 | GeoDaMancer | Heh. |
| 21:26.11 | Rallion | seriously...way too much guitar hero |
| 21:26.13 | Rallion | way too much |
| 21:26.43 | GeoDaMancer | So does mine, but that's 'cause I've been using too little padding on the palm rests for my keyboard and my mouse. |
| 21:28.04 | cmunn | I get to play Guitar Hero 2 on Friday |
| 21:28.21 | cmunn | I am excited. |
| 21:28.33 | Rallion | that's awesome |
| 21:28.45 | Rallion | three-button chords! the sheer insanity of it! |
| 21:29.12 | Rallion | luckily it's just my left wrist |
| 21:29.14 | cmunn | I've been warned that it is several orders of magnitude harder than the original. |
| 21:29.22 | Rallion | good |
| 21:29.45 | Rallion | I'm very methodical about the way I'm playing the first one |
| 21:29.52 | Rallion | I got it like a week ago |
| 21:29.57 | cmunn | Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to leak the full song list :( |
| 21:30.01 | Rallion | aww |
| 21:30.14 | Rallion | well, I'll live with the partial lists floating around |
| 21:30.25 | Rallion | Freebird! Yes! |
| 21:31.01 | Rallion | First I pass every song in a section. Then I five-star them all. Then repeat with the next section |
| 21:31.15 | Rallion | i'm on 11-15 on hard now |
| 21:31.44 | Rallion | but I didn't 5-star EVERYTHING, I'll get back to Cowboys From Hell and Bark at the Moon later. Sheesh. |
| 21:32.54 | Rallion | I can't tell you how many times I had to play Killer Queen on hard, but I really like that song so it was fine |
| 21:33.16 | Rallion | Well, I'm off to make some people happy |
| 21:43.13 | wereHamster | wow.. AMD will buy ATi.. |
| 21:43.37 | Kirov | wereHamster - welcome to last month, they already _did_ buy them |
| 21:43.47 | wereHamster | oh.. |
| 21:44.03 | wereHamster | I'm reading a german gaming magazine |
| 21:44.12 | Cide | germans are months behind! |
| 21:44.47 | wereHamster | it's one of the best magazines worldwide |
| 21:44.59 | Kirov | Germans seem to get exclusives on technology 2-3 months before anyone else, or 2-3 months after |
| 21:45.08 | cogwheel | the story probably broke right after the previous issue went to print |
| 21:45.18 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 21:45.22 | cogwheel | hence the month delay |
| 21:45.25 | wereHamster | I bet it was on slashdot |
| 21:45.36 | Kirov | wereHamster - it was on CNN. :P |
| 21:45.39 | wereHamster | but I'm not reading /. that oftehn now |
| 21:45.55 | Kirov | AMD buying ATI has been a rumor for about 2 months now |
| 21:46.33 | Kirkburn | Huge company buys another huge company for billions of dollars? Nope, wouldn't have been on any news sites ;) |
| 21:50.38 | Kirov | http://www.amd.com/us-en/ - front page, first thing ... AMD & ATI |
| 21:51.31 | Kirov | Officially announced July 24th |
| 21:51.39 | Kirov | so, _over_ a month ago |
| 21:53.41 | GeoDaMancer | 0 equates to nil, correct? |
| 21:53.48 | Kirov | no |
| 21:53.54 | Kirov | 0 equates to true |
| 21:54.03 | GeoDaMancer | Alright. |
| 21:54.09 | Kirov | nil and false are the only things that == false |
| 21:54.24 | Kirov | anything == true |
| 21:54.53 | GeoDaMancer | Alright then. ^.^ |
| 21:58.18 | Gngsk | Is it possible to hide a frame's artwork, if it's defined in xml as a texture? |
| 21:58.43 | Gngsk | er, a layer |
| 21:59.41 | wereHamster | if it has a name, yes |
| 22:00.41 | Cide | wekk |
| 22:00.42 | Cide | well |
| 22:00.45 | Cide | nil ~= false :) |
| 22:01.07 | Cide | s/:/;/ |
| 22:01.11 | Cide | damn bot |
| 22:01.18 | Gngsk | ahh, f:CreateTexture(nil, "name") ? |
| 22:01.33 | Kirkburn | purl, are you having a day off? |
| 22:01.40 | Cide | oh well |
| 22:02.43 | perI | Cide meant to say: You're dumb |
| 22:03.35 | purrl | Kirov meant to say: I'm dumb |
| 22:03.57 | Cide | haha |
| 22:04.03 | Cide | I was like |
| 22:04.10 | pur| | mwahaha |
| 22:04.11 | Cide | wtf? how did purl say that? |
| 22:04.24 | pur| | oh, wait |
| 22:04.31 | purI | I'm awesome |
| 22:04.44 | pur1 | leet speek purl |
| 22:04.55 | purI | Hey, me! |
| 22:05.19 | Cide | .. wtf... |
| 22:05.36 | Kirkburn | You seem troubled, Cide |
| 22:05.52 | Cide | I'm confuzzled |
| 22:06.05 | Cide | now this is the best thread ever: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14051433&sid=1 |
| 22:10.02 | cogwheel | I once got someone to name a tune by spelling it out.... Doot doot doodle oodle oot doot doo doo.... |
| 22:10.42 | Cide | try this: |
| 22:10.56 | Cide | duuuuuuuun dun dun dun, duuuuuun dun dun dun, duuuuuuuun dun dun duuun dun. |
| 22:14.51 | dukeku | oh oh can i play |
| 22:14.52 | dukeku | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.52 | dukeku | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.52 | dukeku | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.53 | dukeku | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.53 | dukeku | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.53 | dukeku | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.27 | dukeku | not a lilypond fan i see =( |
| 22:15.52 | dukeku | (that was a section to use, anyways) |
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| 22:18.44 | GeoDaMancer | I'm getting sick of /rl xD |
| 22:23.30 | Gngsk | so, I was trying to hide the artwork texture on the readycheck frame, but I can't seem to figure it out. paste to the relevent XML http://wowi.pastey.net/492. |
| 22:23.51 | Gngsk | Can that artwork not be hidden because there's no name="" ? |
| 22:25.09 | cogwheel | You can, but it's a bit of work... let me see if i can find an example... |
| 22:26.43 | Gngsk | cogwheel, Ok, thanks. |
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| 22:30.40 | cogwheel | You need to do something like local _,texture = ReadyCheckFrame:GetRegions(); texture:SetTexture(nil) GetRegions() returns all of the textures and fontstrings of the frame. IIRC, they are returned in the order they're defined in the XML |
| 22:31.30 | cogwheel | II don't RC, then you'll have to iterate through each one looking for the one with the texture you want to remove. |
| 22:31.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish someone would update moveanything or make something new that let you move, hide, resize, change transparency, and autohide frames :x |
| 22:32.18 | Gngsk | cogwheel, ok, I'll have a look. thanks again |
| 22:32.46 | GeoDaMancer` | Any of you from china? |
| 22:33.24 | GeoDaMancer` | Never mind, don't mind that. |
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| 22:34.52 | GeoDaMancer` | AHHHH! |
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| 22:35.50 | Gngsk | cogwheel, well that worked perfectly :) |
| 22:40.42 | cogwheel | dood :{ |
| 22:41.01 | cogwheel | s/dood :{/good :)/ |
| 22:41.06 | GeoDaMancer` | Dood! |
| 22:41.11 | GeoDaMancer` | Dooooood. |
| 22:41.19 | GeoDaMancer` | DOOD! |
| 22:41.20 | GeoDaMancer` | xD |
| 22:41.31 | GeoDaMancer` | That always makes me think of exploding penguins. |
| 22:42.01 | cogwheel | There's a penguin on the telly |
| 22:43.10 | GeoDaMancer` | In this game, Disgaea, there are these things called Prinnies, who are demonic penguins with a pouch of gunpowder and explosives. xD |
| 22:43.37 | GeoDaMancer` | Who explode when you pick them up, and throw them. xD |
| 22:43.46 | cogwheel | That reminds me of Worms, for some reason... |
| 22:43.52 | GeoDaMancer` | Sheep. |
| 22:45.22 | GeoDaMancer` | Ah man. In the original Worms, I did something completely cool, and evil. I only had one worm left, and a sheepy for a special weapon. So I used the sheep, without following it, and just counted to three and hit 'x'. I blew my friend's worm and mine into the air. The mine activated and blew up right before the worm hit the ground, knocking that worm, and another mine into the air. It repeated twice then the worm went into the drink. |
| 22:48.51 | Mery | it should be 10 tickets (1 per post) and every 60 seconds you get a new one up to a max of 10 |
| 22:52.38 | GeoDaMancer` | If you do: if MultipleReturnFunction() then ... end is there a way to specify which result is checked? |
| 22:52.55 | AnduinLothar | not in wow's lua |
| 22:55.14 | MentalPower|ZZzz | yeah, it always looks at the first return |
| 22:55.51 | GeoDaMancer` | Alright, well. That's cool. Wheee, it's a lot of fun checking returns. xD |
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| 23:03.27 | GeoDaMancer` | If you're using SCT, is there a way to feed errors to it? |
| 23:03.35 | GeoDaMancer` | Or, information to it? |
| 23:03.50 | Kirov | should be |
| 23:04.06 | Kirov | I'd imagine there's something like SCT:AddMessage |
| 23:06.09 | GeoDaMancer` | Probably is, but I don't know what the frame's name is. xD |
| 23:06.37 | Kirov | Try reading the sct.lua? |
| 23:06.44 | Gngsk | hey cog, thanks again. here's the outcome http://www.titansofazeroth.com/mods/WoWScrnShot_082906_185921.jpg |
| 23:08.06 | cogwheel | neato :) |
| 23:09.28 | GeoDaMancer` | Nooo! It's back to two seconds! |
| 23:18.35 | Corrodias | Gngsk: please identify your partyframes |
| 23:18.48 | Corrodias | *partyframe, i suppose. |
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| 23:30.15 | GeoDaMancer` | Does Lua allow function overloading? |
| 23:32.08 | Kirov | overloading? |
| 23:33.26 | GeoDaMancer` | Er, it's where you have multiple declarations of the same function, but with different variable, or variable types being fed into it... |
| 23:34.44 | Corrodias | different parameters as arguments |
| 23:34.59 | GeoDaMancer` | Er, different number os arguments. |
| 23:35.07 | Corrodias | could be different types, too. |
| 23:35.18 | Kirov | what's the point? |
| 23:35.35 | Corrodias | i haven't studied this stuff in a while, so it's getting a little blurry |
| 23:35.36 | Kemayo | Use function(...), and an if statement. |
| 23:35.54 | Kemayo | (That is to say, it's not well supported.) |
| 23:36.07 | Corrodias | i'm not a teacher. i'm not going to try to explain the purposes to you. |
| 23:36.22 | Corrodias | i should say, i'm a bad teacher, so i'm not going to try. |
| 23:37.03 | Kemayo | Or you can, of course, arrange your function arguments such that you can just leave one off the end of the call, and then do different things depending on which of them == nil. |
| 23:37.08 | Kirov | I was thinking function blah(foo) end blah(foo,bar,stuff) |
| 23:37.22 | Kirov | function foo(...) make sense |
| 23:37.32 | Kirov | just don't let the Ace guys catch you using that |
| 23:37.48 | GeoDaMancer` | It's so you don't have to have to use an if in there to check if a value was set. |
| 23:37.57 | Kirov | And, for the most part I'd have to agree with them. |
| 23:38.00 | GeoDaMancer` | It automatically calls the one that firs. |
| 23:38.23 | GeoDaMancer` | fits^ |
| 23:38.56 | Kemayo | Yeah, I can't think of any way to do it without just doing a lot of switching inside the function. |
| 23:38.58 | Kemayo | Sorry. |
| 23:39.14 | GeoDaMancer` | That's fine. I was just wondering. xD |
| 23:39.18 | Kemayo | And now... school! |
| 23:39.27 | GeoDaMancer` | I'm studying Java right now, and that was just something that came to mind. |
| 23:39.28 | GeoDaMancer` | Enjoy! |
| 23:39.46 | Mery | and now sleep! (and I'll enjoy it :P) g'night. |
| 23:39.52 | Cairenn | night Mery |
| 23:40.29 | Gngsk | Corrodias, sorry didn't notice your question back there. That's Sarien's version of MiniGroup2. |
| 23:40.36 | GeoDaMancer` | I really need to get a ranged weapon for my warrior. |
| 23:41.56 | GeoDaMancer` | Really. It would make taking care of runners so much easier. xD |
| 23:43.52 | Tem | So, is there any truth to the rumor that Human Paladins and Tauren Shamans will be able to become blood elves and dranei when TBC is release? |
| 23:47.01 | Kirkburn | Tem, no |
| 23:47.11 | Tem | k |
| 23:49.17 | Cairenn | and how would anyone in this channel actually *know* that, either to verify or deny? :p |
| 23:50.34 | MentalPower | To those interested, I changed http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_a_Function to include other hooking libraries (other than Sea), feel free to add your hooking libraries (Stubby is already fully added, Ace and Ace2 are only shown) |
| 23:53.20 | Corrodias | Gngsk: thanks |
| 23:54.38 | Corrodias | Tem: what? there's a rumor that blizzard will let you convert your characters to other races? :P |
| 23:55.57 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com) |
