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| 00:57.33 | Hexarobi | how do i do /who for a guild name? |
| 00:58.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | /who g-Name |
| 00:58.21 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.36 | cogwheel | quotes are only necessary if there's a space |
| 00:58.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah " " if there's spaces |
| 00:58.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | GET OUT OF MY MIND COGWHEEL GAAH |
| 00:58.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 00:59.01 | cogwheel | oeaueouoeuaoeuaoeuueoaoeuaoeuoeuaoaoeuaoeu |
| 00:59.14 | cogwheel | these aren't the droids you're looking for |
| 00:59.34 | dukeku | these aren't the eels you are looking for |
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| 01:00.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | these aren't the droods you're looking for |
| 01:00.56 | cogwheel | zomg |
| 01:01.02 | cogwheel | i was so just about to type that |
| 01:01.08 | cogwheel | :S |
| 01:01.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | GET OUT OF MY MIND |
| 01:01.23 | dukeku | i was just about to type that |
| 01:10.28 | Gngsk | get in to my car? |
| 01:11.13 | Hexarobi | is there anyway to see a post from the old forums now? |
| 01:14.31 | cogwheel | nope :( |
| 01:14.39 | End | yes |
| 01:14.49 | End | http://12.129.217.203/board.aspx?forumName=wow-interface-customization |
| 01:15.10 | End | not sure how long they plan on leaving it up though |
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| 01:21.41 | Hexarobi | thx |
| 01:27.58 | Hexarobi | man this is annoyin me |
| 01:27.59 | Hexarobi | http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:PLnp61RSSGEJ:forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx%3Ffn%3Dwow-suggestions%26pageno%3D20+site:forums.worldofwarcraft.com+wow+chess&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2 |
| 01:28.22 | Hexarobi | i want to read a post that google has seen in its cache, but i cant find the actual post |
| 01:32.00 | MentalPower | http://12.129.217.203/thread.aspx?fn=wow-suggestions&t=969479&p=1&tmp=1#post969479 |
| 01:32.07 | MentalPower | but alas, the post was deleted |
| 01:46.06 | Hexarobi | exactly =/ |
| 01:46.15 | Hexarobi | im curious what it said |
| 01:53.13 | Rallion | heh wow it sucks how little I can do with my webspace until the domain registration goes through... |
| 01:53.34 | Rallion | but it'll probably be done by the time I get home from work tomorrow, so whatever |
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| 01:55.14 | Corthain | Hi again! :) |
| 01:55.28 | zespri_work | So where do you read this leaked talent information that everybody is talking about on Blizz forums and mods moderating threads like mad? |
| 01:56.04 | Corthain | I'm pretty much done with this mod.. the only thing that I can't figure out is how to table.remove a table that is referenced by a string rather than by a number. |
| 01:56.07 | Corthain | How do I do that? |
| 01:56.47 | zespri_work | then you don't need to do table.remove. a[something] = nil would do |
| 01:57.02 | Corthain | So that'd completely get rid of it? |
| 01:57.11 | Corthain | Or would the key still exist and be set to nil? |
| 01:57.33 | zespri_work | I beleive it's not possible to have nil as a table value |
| 01:57.47 | Corthain | Ah yes. |
| 01:57.50 | Corthain | I forgot that fact. |
| 01:57.55 | Corthain | Awesome! Thanks!! =D |
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| 02:01.42 | Corthain | Worked like a charm! |
| 02:01.49 | Corthain | Thanks again, zespri! |
| 02:02.08 | zespri_work | np |
| 02:05.00 | Hexarobi | whos yer registrar rallion? |
| 02:05.11 | Hexarobi | godaddy's changes seem to go live in 15 mins |
| 02:05.15 | Hexarobi | its eerie |
| 02:17.59 | norgs | all changes should go live every 15 mins |
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| 02:19.29 | norgs | it's not the registrar but in fact the registry that's responsible for publishing the changes |
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| 02:43.36 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:43.39 | clad|sleep | Night all |
| 02:43.45 | Cairenn | sweet dreams clad|sleep |
| 02:52.07 | MentalPower | so, I'm guessing that my 30KB/s Memory increase in WoW is the source of my Lag :| |
| 02:53.25 | Tem | MentalPower, probably lol |
| 02:53.38 | Tem | I've managed to get 3.5 top in raids |
| 02:53.41 | Tem | which is hot |
| 02:53.52 | Tem | but I have an issue in BGs |
| 02:53.58 | Tem | getting 40+ in there |
| 02:54.01 | Tem | don't know the source yet |
| 02:54.44 | MentalPower | now for the fun part, finding the culprit addon |
| 02:57.47 | AnduinLothar | I blame Cosmos |
| 02:57.50 | AnduinLothar | wait.. er.. |
| 02:57.53 | AnduinLothar | Ace! |
| 02:58.01 | Tem | I blame... eeuuh |
| 02:58.03 | MentalPower | ROFL!!! |
| 02:58.13 | Tem | I think I blame you, AL |
| 02:58.20 | Tem | not cosmos or Ct or anything |
| 02:58.21 | Tem | just you |
| 02:58.46 | MentalPower | you know, most of my AddOns are Cosmos :| |
| 03:06.10 | AnduinLothar | Most of Cosmos is Me |
| 03:06.23 | AnduinLothar | therefore... |
| 03:06.35 | AnduinLothar | It's Tem's fault. |
| 03:06.36 | Tem | no no, I'm not even blaming it on an addon |
| 03:06.41 | Tem | it's just your fault |
| 03:07.06 | AnduinLothar | oh right.. I stole him ram |
| 03:07.09 | AnduinLothar | forgot |
| 03:11.10 | chuckg | Yay Loatheb down! |
| 03:12.34 | Arrowmaster | how many wipes did you hellfire out of tonight chuck? |
| 03:16.01 | Tem | I hate classes that have ways to avoid the repair bill |
| 03:16.50 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 03:16.56 | AnduinLothar | DI! |
| 03:17.04 | AnduinLothar | i love di'ing rogues |
| 03:17.13 | AnduinLothar | and hunters |
| 03:43.21 | Tem | why's that? |
| 03:43.25 | Tem | they still get to avoid the repair |
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| 04:22.04 | Cairenn | heh, some of you might get a kick out of this, I certainly did when I heard it last night: http://evilempireguild.org/misc/FiremawChant.mp3 |
| 04:24.49 | Cairenn | the story behind it is that the GL inspected the MT about 3 secs before Firemaw, only to discover that the MT was wearing his shadow resist gear ... doh |
| 04:28.08 | pyfen | LOL |
| 04:28.53 | zespri_work | which instance is shadow resist now? naxx? |
| 04:29.09 | pyfen | if foo = GetMasterLootCandidate(candidateIndex); returns an integer......how do I get the name of the candidate? ie, how do I get a string that holds the name of the person who the loot is given to? |
| 04:29.42 | pyfen | no |
| 04:30.04 | pyfen | naxx is undead, scourge, hmm I guess that could be shadow eh? |
| 04:31.05 | zespri_work | have no idea - that's mainly why I'm asking =) |
| 04:32.30 | pyfen | now this isnt making any sense |
| 04:32.57 | pyfen | ooo |
| 04:33.20 | pyfen | crap thats not whtI wated to do lol hmmmm :( I'ma haveta read the core functions to see what Icna use |
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| 04:52.45 | Cairenn | correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the case that we are unable to change the colour of the minimap tracking icons? |
| 04:52.51 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12952229&sid=1 |
| 04:56.14 | pyfen | Cairenn: wouldnt suprise me, blizz is quite iffy about altering minimap |
| 04:56.18 | pyfen | due to map hacks ect. |
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| 04:56.34 | pyfen | Anyone know how I can get the name of the person that is given the loot in a raid when using master loot? |
| 04:56.50 | pyfen | I can only get the index value....and that doesnt help me... |
| 04:57.00 | MentalPower | Updated video card drivers + Overclocked Video Card = 5x increase in FPS :) |
| 04:57.19 | pyfen | MentalPower, what vid card? |
| 04:57.31 | MentalPower | nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Go |
| 04:57.32 | pyfen | and overclocked up what ratio? |
| 04:57.41 | pyfen | LOL you serious? |
| 04:57.51 | MentalPower | yes I'm serious |
| 04:58.04 | pyfen | so from 250mhz core and 300mhz memory what did you up it to? |
| 04:58.41 | MentalPower | 280Mhz Core, 361Mhz Memory |
| 04:58.57 | pyfen | and you went from what fps to what now? |
| 04:59.32 | MentalPower | 4FPS -> 20FPS |
| 04:59.53 | pyfen | LOL you were actualy playing with 4fps? |
| 05:00.03 | MentalPower | I was pulling my hairs out |
| 05:00.07 | pyfen | or actually, you actuallly play with 20 fps? |
| 05:00.16 | MentalPower | yes |
| 05:00.21 | MentalPower | 20FPS is golden for me |
| 05:00.34 | pyfen | lol but did you just have the stock drivers in to get 4fps? or was it just 6 months outdated or someting? |
| 05:00.58 | MentalPower | it was like early 2006 drivers |
| 05:01.04 | MentalPower | err... 2005 |
| 05:01.13 | pyfen | lol yeah that'l do it |
| 05:01.47 | MentalPower | and I upgraded to the latest and greatest 91.37 |
| 05:02.59 | Kirov | Cairenn - slouken was kind enough to make the textures used for the blips replacable |
| 05:03.10 | Kirov | It's a little wonky though |
| 05:03.25 | Cairenn | ah |
| 05:03.30 | Kirov | as it aparently takes a full file path |
| 05:04.05 | Cairenn | this was the thread I was reading that had me asking: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12952229&sid=1 |
| 05:07.55 | pyfen | Anyone know how I can get the name of the person that is given the loot in a raid when using master loot? I can only seem to get the index value....which doesnt help me |
| 05:16.19 | Kirov | some people need to learn to stay longer than 5 mintues |
| 05:16.58 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 05:18.43 | Zicon | kirov: Usually a legitimate complaint, but that disconnect wasn't pyfen's fault. |
| 05:23.10 | Kirov | Zicon - could of been |
| 05:23.38 | Kirov | "Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)" seems to show up for some people when they manually leave. |
| 05:24.03 | Zicon | Yes, I suppose pyfen could have cut the power to his/her computer. |
| 05:27.08 | Kirov | Or use an Irc client that uses that as their quit message |
| 05:28.03 | Zicon | Possible, of course, but that would be ... incredibly stupid. |
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| 06:18.11 | MentalPower | night guys |
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| 08:33.07 | Tem | can someone explain why I punch for 4 damage and crit puch for 8? |
| 08:33.17 | Tem | I thought the crit bonus was 50%? |
| 08:36.17 | Kirov | because the crit bonus is 100? |
| 08:41.44 | Corrodias | welcome to WoW? o.o |
| 08:50.38 | cmunn | I like pie. |
| 08:51.19 | Kirov | 'lo Bob |
| 08:54.01 | cmunn | Anyone know of a good mod that will keep your well geared tanks from leaving for guilds with better progression, leaving you in an endless cycle of Rag and Razergore, and no hope in sight of ever being able to down Vael? |
| 08:56.24 | Kirov | cmunn - BallNChain |
| 08:56.31 | Kirov | I think it's a cosmos mod though |
| 08:56.37 | cmunn | Ugh |
| 08:59.52 | cmunn | So... What are you working on these days, Kirov? |
| 09:00.27 | Kirov | STranq 2.0 |
| 09:00.38 | Kirov | Trying to avoid LLe as much as possible. |
| 09:01.13 | Kirov | Every time I look at that file I want to rewrite it from scratch, then I look at what MentalPower is doing with itemizer and go, "hey, it's already being done" |
| 09:02.59 | cmunn | What's LLe? |
| 09:03.19 | Kirov | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3326-1-lootlink-enhanced.html |
| 09:03.39 | cmunn | Ahh |
| 09:04.03 | cmunn | Why avoid it, and how does it factor into STranq? |
| 09:04.57 | Kirov | Because LootLink is a monstrosity |
| 09:05.19 | jaxdahl | how does itemsync compare to lootlink? |
| 09:05.36 | Kirov | and the "enhanced" version is mostly a handful of hacks lumped on to the old dog to add functionality the original system never intended |
| 09:05.53 | Corrodias | i rather like lootlink, but that's because it can remember items i don't have in my local cache :P |
| 09:07.40 | Kirov | ItemSync is a great addon for those who just want sell values and accurate browsing |
| 09:08.32 | Kirov | There's a lot of good in ItemSync, though I think KCItems is a superior addon that does the same thing and more. |
| 09:08.35 | Kirov | for less |
| 09:09.50 | Corrodias | with 10% less water added |
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| 09:16.43 | zespri | Function TEXT is defined in BasicControls.xml as follows |
| 09:16.43 | zespri | function TEXT(text) |
| 09:16.44 | zespri | return text; |
| 09:16.44 | zespri | end |
| 09:16.59 | zespri | does any one know how it's defined in a localized version? |
| 09:17.52 | zespri | or is it for backwards compat only? |
| 09:18.49 | Kirov | just for backwards compatability I'm sure |
| 09:18.57 | Kirov | since everything is translated via globalstrings.lua |
| 09:19.35 | zespri | ok thanks |
| 09:22.26 | Corrodias | soooo |
| 09:22.37 | Corrodias | anybody know how much honor you typically need for pvp ranks? |
| 09:22.43 | Corrodias | is the system still competetive? |
| 09:22.53 | cmunn | Question: is World of Warcraft/Data/Patch.MPQ needed by WoW? |
| 09:23.06 | Corrodias | cmunn: Experiment: delete it and find out |
| 09:23.11 | cmunn | Good plan. |
| 09:23.26 | Corrodias | don't just rename it. delete it, and destroy your WoW discs. |
| 09:24.21 | cmunn | It is indeed needed. |
| 09:26.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | so uh |
| 09:27.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was looking through my screenshots folder |
| 09:27.15 | cmunn | How did that make you feel? |
| 09:27.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a screenshot taken in march 2005 of me accepting a quest |
| 09:27.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | that is still in my quest log. |
| 09:28.38 | cmunn | Grats |
| 09:29.28 | cmunn | Anybody used RDX? (http://www.rdx-raid.com/) |
| 09:30.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait |
| 09:30.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | they mention e-checks |
| 09:30.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | does that mean you have to PAY for it? |
| 09:30.35 | cmunn | Indeed. |
| 09:30.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | HAHAHAH |
| 09:30.50 | cmunn | Although version 5 is free. |
| 09:30.56 | cmunn | I lol'd as well. |
| 09:31.02 | cmunn | It 'looks' pretty. |
| 09:31.19 | Corrodias | so does porn |
| 09:31.23 | Corrodias | but i don't pay for -that- |
| 09:31.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | isn't that like |
| 09:31.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | against the ToS? |
| 09:31.49 | Corrodias | no, unlike bioware, blizzard makes no attempt to claim ownership of addons |
| 09:33.07 | Corrodias | i was playing in a battleground today, first time since january. i found that my half restoration druid does indeed have significant usefulness and can qualify for many honor kills without significantly damaging anybody |
| 09:33.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | never thought i'd warez an addon |
| 09:33.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm tempted to just because of the audacity of charging for it |
| 09:33.28 | Corrodias | and in WSG druid seems to be the best class to grab the flag |
| 09:33.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids are the best cappers |
| 09:33.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i also go for fellow druids before any other class if they're healing |
| 09:33.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | easier to drop than a priest |
| 09:34.06 | Corrodias | and i said that to say this: i finally got to see my raid interface, with my new unitframes |
| 09:34.22 | Corrodias | it took me most of the first game to figure out how to get x-perl to turn off the party frame in the raid, but it was a quick one |
| 09:35.15 | Corrodias | things were going well, 8-2, until i started running up against a premade heavy pvp group with pvp epix |
| 09:36.04 | Corrodias | after 3 consecutive losses to them, and us managing only to kill one of them once during those matches, i decided it was time to go level my mining skill for a while, instead. :P |
| 09:36.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tear people up as a feral druid |
| 09:36.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | mostly mages, druids, and holy priests |
| 09:36.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and rogue |
| 09:36.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | rogues* |
| 09:37.18 | Corrodias | i don't have enough points in feral to be really effective that way |
| 09:37.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | warlocks are next to impossible, warriors are possible if they're not arms/2h |
| 09:37.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | shamans usually aren't too hard |
| 09:37.57 | Corrodias | god damn warlocks |
| 09:38.12 | Corrodias | i swear, i had flashbacks to Guild Wars pvp battles with my monk vs a team with a good mesmer |
| 09:38.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | shadow priests are impossible, hunters are a pain as a feral, but i can do well if i'm in my bear gear |
| 09:38.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | mesmers are insanely awesome if you play them to be the biggest annoying bastard possible |
| 09:39.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, debuff them so that heals hurt them massively, and monks spam heal kill their tanks and stuff :D |
| 09:39.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyone seems to be a monk/war in GW though |
| 09:39.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | or were when i played it |
| 09:39.33 | Corrodias | i remember backfire, which would damage the caster, but not something to damage the person being healed |
| 09:39.48 | Corrodias | war/mo was more popular when i played |
| 09:39.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't played it since a few months after release |
| 09:40.08 | Corrodias | hey, me too |
| 09:40.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | but mesmers had a thing in which any kind of buff spell would harm whoever got healed/buffed |
| 09:40.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something |
| 09:40.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe it was the caster |
| 09:40.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't remember |
| 09:40.35 | Corrodias | it had an interesting pve ride. i really enjoyed that. however, i couldn't compete with the korean pvp groups and there was no more pve after the end... |
| 09:40.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i played in the e3 for everyone thing |
| 09:40.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | the pvp was really fun in it |
| 09:40.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | pve* |
| 09:41.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the PVE in retail was horrendously boring |
| 09:41.35 | Corrodias | really? well, the world preview event pve was pretty much straight from the middle of the game. |
| 09:42.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got to like |
| 09:42.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | after the sundering or whatever and remember some ice castles and stuff |
| 09:42.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and after that i was like "Screw this, it's like WoW only somehow more boring to quest in" |
| 09:43.07 | Corrodias | in the end, it just isn't very deep |
| 09:44.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 09:45.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | it feels like you're doing the pve ONLY so you can pvp, and not for the story or anything else |
| 09:46.36 | Corrodias | well, anyway, there's one more think i heard in LFG: that you no longer need to maintain your pvp rank to use the pvp rewards once you've gotten them. is that correct? |
| 09:47.06 | Corrodias | well, not sure where i heard that, actually |
| 09:50.29 | Corrodias | isn't anyone around here familiar with the pvp mechanics? ;.; |
| 09:52.06 | Corrodias | so i hear it takes a hell of a lot of work to work your way up to rank 11 |
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| 09:59.31 | Corrodias | 20 hours a week for a few weeks expects this guy to see rank 5. so this is a sort of long term goal, i see. :P |
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| 10:06.34 | Corrodias | as soon as i ask a question, everyone shuts up |
| 10:08.46 | cmunn | What's the question? (Doing chemistry homework) |
| 10:13.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | is there any1 here tyhat got osme xml skills :p |
| 10:13.39 | Tem | wow.. these alliance are terrible at AB |
| 10:13.43 | Tem | we keep 5 capping them |
| 10:13.49 | Tem | (in a pug) |
| 10:13.58 | Tem | 20-29 bracket |
| 10:18.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://home.zonnet.nl/westhof99/xmlprob.JPG <- does any1 got an idea how i can dispaly only 1 face of that big image below ? |
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| 10:56.19 | Corrodias | |FF|Im2good4u: display one face in what? |
| 10:56.41 | |FF|Im2good4u | did u see the image ? |
| 10:56.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | all heads of all races / sexses |
| 10:57.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | i wana dispaly only 1 not all 16 :P |
| 10:57.06 | Corrodias | you can crop the image to be only one face. |
| 10:57.21 | Corrodias | if that's not acceptable, you have to be more specific about what you want. |
| 10:57.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | wut do u mean by crop ? |
| 10:57.57 | Corrodias | cmunn: my question was whether or not you still need to maintain your pvp rank in order to use the pvp rank rewards |
| 10:58.09 | Corrodias | |FF|Im2good4u: i mean you use the "crop" tool in an image editor on it. |
| 10:58.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | u mean cut it up myzelf ? |
| 10:59.10 | |FF|Im2good4u | Corrodias: if u mean things u buy u dont need to maintian your rakn u can keep using them only u willing be able to buy them |
| 10:59.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | i mean u can use them but nolonger buy them |
| 10:59.40 | Corrodias | i see |
| 11:00.16 | Corrodias | i shall explain the crop tool: you select a rectangular area of the image and that area becomes the new version of the image; the rest is removed |
| 11:09.44 | Corrodias | sleepy. 'ni |
| 11:10.31 | Corrodias | not you, me! |
| 11:19.34 | |FF|Im2good4u | stil blizzart seems to show only 1 face at the charecter create screen sho it should be posable |
| 11:30.52 | jaxdahl | Corrodias, i think he is asking how to display just 1 face as a texture in-game |
| 11:34.53 | cmunn | http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface#Texture |
| 11:35.03 | cmunn | What does "TexCoords" define? |
| 11:36.38 | jaxdahl | <TexCoords left="0" right="0.2" top="0" bottom="1.0"></TexCoords> ? |
| 11:37.07 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoordModifiesRect |
| 11:38.05 | cmunn | I believe that's what you're looking for, |FF|Im2good4u |
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| 11:41.47 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah thanks |
| 11:41.51 | cmunn | Enjoy |
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| 11:49.16 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 11:52.55 | cmunn | Mornin' |
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| 11:59.30 | Kirkburn | Mikk, how could anyone think that http://www.wowwiki.com/Barrens_chat is immaturely written ... it's Barrens char fer goodness sake :P |
| 11:59.57 | Mikk | I was just thinking the same =) |
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| 12:03.42 | Mikk | hmmm. where's legorol |
| 12:03.49 | Mikk | we need an update [[Global Function List]] |
| 12:05.41 | Mikk | ... wonder how much logic he has in that scanner anyway |
| 12:06.07 | Kirkburn | We need no logic, all code must come from the heart! |
| 12:06.18 | Kirkburn | Someone else's, preferably. |
| 12:06.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | is there any event that fires when a player his spent talent points update ? |
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| 12:16.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke i got it |
| 12:16.49 | |FF|Im2good4u | just wondering is there any frequently firing event for some sort of perodic events |
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| 12:17.13 | Mikk | OnUpdate on a frame |
| 12:17.21 | Mikk | fires once every screen repaint |
| 12:17.25 | Mikk | i.e. dozens of times per second |
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| 12:36.56 | Kaso | MoonWolf |
| 12:36.56 | MoonWolf | yes ? |
| 12:37.05 | Kaso | Does ChatJustify work with links ? |
| 12:37.43 | MoonWolf | no, the chatframes have a bug where they break, i can't fix that. |
| 12:37.50 | MoonWolf | its blizzards problem. |
| 12:38.09 | Kaso | ah, i was wondering, just been fiddling around with frame stacks and stuff trying to work out why it aint workin :< |
| 12:53.33 | JoshBorke | Mikk: i'm using ChatThrottleLib in HealWatch |
| 12:55.00 | Mikk | o =) |
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| 13:02.05 | JoshBorke | justy FYI :-) |
| 13:02.10 | JoshBorke | AND! i'm using the bulk option too :-D |
| 13:04.16 | Mikk | whoa =) |
| 13:07.00 | JoshBorke | but only for version requests, everything else is alert... |
| 13:07.59 | Beladona | whoa! err, ok whatd I miss |
| 13:09.13 | Mikk | JoshBorke started using ChatThrottleLib for HealWatch :-P |
| 13:10.06 | Beladona | cool |
| 13:10.56 | Beladona | I may put something like that into TankAlert. I added sounds to it, but obviously it fires way too much when a group member gets attacked |
| 13:11.07 | Beladona | so I need to throttle it |
| 13:11.18 | Beladona | or just give it a good shaking -- something |
| 13:11.22 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 13:11.33 | JoshBorke | hasn't been tested though :-D |
| 13:11.56 | Beladona | soooo test it |
| 13:11.59 | Beladona | =P |
| 13:12.14 | Mikk | Beladona: for that one, you may be better off just generating fewer events |
| 13:12.25 | Thrae | Beladona: Does Tank Alert just search through hostile combat log events for names and known classes? |
| 13:12.32 | Kirkburn | Hello, hello, Beladona! I don't suppose you're intersted in doing a comparison on the expansion UI files? |
| 13:12.35 | Beladona | yes Thrae |
| 13:12.43 | Kirkburn | (unless someone has already asked you?) |
| 13:12.58 | Beladona | Kirkburn yes I would love to, but don't have access to them |
| 13:13.01 | Thrae | Yeah VitalWatch v2 does that too. |
| 13:13.02 | Kirkburn | I do |
| 13:13.06 | Kirkburn | I'm hosting them :P |
| 13:13.13 | Beladona | all revisions? |
| 13:13.29 | Kirkburn | http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/BCInterface-5610.zip |
| 13:13.43 | Beladona | before I do that |
| 13:14.02 | Beladona | do you have a copy of the NDA when you got accepted into beta? |
| 13:14.06 | Kirkburn | Heh |
| 13:14.11 | Beladona | just wanna make sure we aren't breaking any rules |
| 13:14.32 | Kirkburn | The files are free to download ... I'm suggesting that you don't put it on the main wdn site |
| 13:14.41 | Beladona | and last question: howd you get into beta, and I didn't? LOL |
| 13:14.50 | Kirkburn | I didn't, but anyone can download the alpha |
| 13:14.55 | Beladona | ahh |
| 13:14.59 | Thrae | Beladona, have you looked at making a pre-emptive aggro watch, which iterates through raid and party targets? |
| 13:15.04 | Kirkburn | From the official site, no less |
| 13:15.31 | Beladona | Thrae: I was avoiding re-writing it until I had to. This is an addon someone else created, and I modified to suit my needs |
| 13:15.39 | Thrae | Beladona: Ahhh |
| 13:16.12 | Beladona | I also added mob_shout checks. So that when a monster shouts, it makes an alarm sound |
| 13:16.24 | Beladona | very handy in places like Strat, with the Eyes |
| 13:16.47 | Thrae | I already have the pre-emptive part down, but it's obviously a speed hit -- I can't think of making iterating through up to 40 raid member's targets any easier. |
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| 13:19.09 | Mery | well I think you are not allowed to give out any alpha information... then on the other hand they didn't protect their client with anything that's why everybody has it... |
| 13:20.20 | Beladona | alpha isn't available to anyone yet I assume |
| 13:20.30 | Beladona | other than the download |
| 13:20.36 | Mery | correct |
| 13:20.44 | Beladona | I hope I get into testing phase |
| 13:20.49 | Mery | (other than hand picked invites to it i guess) |
| 13:20.52 | Beladona | will be nice for wdn |
| 13:21.04 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 13:21.06 | Beladona | do they have a page yet for applying? |
| 13:21.12 | Kirkburn | Nope |
| 13:21.15 | Mery | not that i know of |
| 13:21.23 | TS|Skrom | Heya all |
| 13:21.32 | Beladona | hmm |
| 13:21.35 | Kirkburn | Hullo |
| 13:21.43 | Beladona | gonna have to stick my request in through backdoor channels I guess |
| 13:21.46 | Beladona | =P |
| 13:22.02 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 13:22.12 | TS|Skrom | O.o |
| 13:22.20 | TS|Skrom | (_o_) backdoor channels? |
| 13:22.25 | Beladona | although I would imagine some sites like wowinterface would get a few test accounts |
| 13:22.29 | Kirkburn | It would be sensible for Blizzard, since they UI commuity should have help preparing for the expansion |
| 13:22.32 | Beladona | or keys rather |
| 13:22.50 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I think that's quite likely |
| 13:23.02 | Beladona | no Skrom, not that kinda backdoor channel. Sorry if you got excited |
| 13:23.22 | Kirkburn | Oh, _that's_ what that was. Nice. :) |
| 13:23.46 | Mikk | 8===D (_x_) |
| 13:24.04 | TS|Skrom | :'( |
| 13:24.27 | Kirkburn | *sigh* ... adults these days ... |
| 13:24.32 | TS|Skrom | lawl |
| 13:24.39 | TS|Skrom | sometimes I can't help it >< |
| 13:25.10 | Kirkburn | "We are planning to allow all players to access the new talents, although those who do not own the expansion will of course not have the additional points gained from leveling to 70." |
| 13:25.16 | Beladona | TalentFrameBranches? |
| 13:25.20 | Beladona | interesting.... |
| 13:25.24 | Mikk | aye, interesting |
| 13:25.28 | Kirkburn | Didn't notice that ... |
| 13:25.29 | Beladona | branching talents |
| 13:25.34 | Beladona | whatever that is |
| 13:25.53 | zenzelezz | talent trees... with branches |
| 13:25.57 | Kirkburn | "There are no plans to restrict items based on where they are obtained, meaning that socketed or Outland-obtained items can be equipped by anyone if purchased or given. While the Jewelcrafting profession will only be available to expansion owners, the items they create will not be." |
| 13:26.07 | Kirkburn | And finally: "The current Arenas being planned are all placed in Outland, and since they are also planned to require level 70 for the ranked matches, the expansion will obviously be required to participate. There is always the possibility that we will expand the Arena system to Azeroth in the future." |
| 13:26.08 | zenzelezz | subcategories perhaps |
| 13:26.40 | Beladona | thats what I assume |
| 13:27.02 | Beladona | lol, interface version 20000 |
| 13:27.13 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 13:27.38 | Beladona | Max Talents increased from 20 to 40 |
| 13:28.56 | Mery | the best thing is that in WorldMapFrame.lua it still says "Fix me for 1.13" :) |
| 13:29.13 | Mikk | this is why you never ever let outsiders see your comments :-P |
| 13:29.17 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 13:29.56 | Beladona | not a ton of stuff changed though |
| 13:30.05 | Beladona | granted,this is a minor revision increase |
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| 13:30.45 | Kirkburn | Ooh, about £240 for Windows Vista Ultimate :O |
| 13:30.45 | Mery | i wonder what SaveGuildRoaster() is for |
| 13:31.00 | Axel-F | Hello? |
| 13:31.03 | Mery | hi |
| 13:31.07 | Kirkburn | Hello? |
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| 13:31.20 | TS|Skrom | Mery, that's a misspell it's actually SaveGuildToaster() |
| 13:31.28 | Kirkburn | Off out for a short while, bbl |
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| 13:31.33 | TS|Skrom | it's so you can tell the client if you want white or wheat bread |
| 13:31.40 | Mery | lol |
| 13:31.48 | Beladona | ther eis a slash command for it you know |
| 13:31.55 | Mery | ya i know ... |
| 13:32.00 | Beladona | its /saveguildroster |
| 13:32.04 | Axel-F | Does anybody know a good lua guide? |
| 13:32.08 | Mery | but i can't imagine what is does |
| 13:32.20 | Axel-F | Does anybody know a good lua guide? |
| 13:32.24 | Beladona | Axel: try the manual |
| 13:32.32 | Mery | lua.org |
| 13:32.39 | Axel-F | thx |
| 13:32.41 | TS|Skrom | it makes an array: [1] white [2] wheat [3] sourdogh [4] wheat [5] none |
| 13:32.47 | Beladona | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/ |
| 13:33.17 | Axel-F | thx again |
| 13:33.42 | Mery | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/ .......... i was too slow, way to slow |
| 13:34.25 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 13:34.42 | Mery | they didn't add a new continent to the interface art yet... |
| 13:37.40 | Beladona | just tried the saveguildroster slash, it doesn't do anything currently |
| 13:38.48 | Beladona | ahh, UnitPopup.lua contains the Dungeon Difficulty selection |
| 13:39.18 | Beladona | which I assume means the option will be via right click on your player picture |
| 13:40.55 | Beladona | new function SetDungeonDifficulty |
| 13:41.15 | Beladona | looks like they have code that allows raid leaders AND assistants to do stuff with it |
| 13:41.47 | Thrae | Interesting, maybe they have "Hard" modes of instances for Level 70s to get new gear from old instances. |
| 13:42.13 | Mery | it really looks like its just the stuff they needed for expansion features - there will prolly be more improvments (LFG!! hopefully) included later during the testing |
| 13:42.26 | Beladona | its only going to be new dungeons for now Thrae |
| 13:42.37 | Beladona | they re still considering adding the difficulty to old dungeons |
| 13:42.38 | Thrae | Or it could just be a testing function. |
| 13:43.12 | Beladona | honestly, I would like to see LFG moved to a special interface |
| 13:43.17 | Mery | nah its announced |
| 13:43.17 | Beladona | some kind of matchmaking system |
| 13:43.19 | Beladona | with no chat |
| 13:43.38 | Mery | yes!! |
| 13:43.57 | Beladona | think about it |
| 13:44.03 | Beladona | the LookingForgroup channel can still be there |
| 13:44.10 | Beladona | but invisible |
| 13:44.16 | Beladona | and the itnerface communicates through iut |
| 13:44.23 | Mery | i'd like to have it 2 rows: groups looking for more and player looking for group - with a note for what purpose |
| 13:44.25 | Beladona | pardon my typing |
| 13:44.55 | Mery | then i can just browse through the players / groups and send tells if they want to take me / join me |
| 13:44.55 | Beladona | or, you flag yourself LFG, or when in a group LFM |
| 13:45.11 | Mery | ya something like this |
| 13:45.15 | Beladona | and if you have a party started, you get the LFM interface |
| 13:45.20 | Beladona | EQ had it |
| 13:45.27 | Beladona | for a while in fact |
| 13:46.30 | Mery | i dunno i never used that stupid dungeon making stones, but they just place you in a group with others right? |
| 13:48.27 | Thrae | The Meeting Stones had the wrong idea from the get-go. No one wants to be placed in a random PUG. BGs it's a different story because it's a raid and you get something even for losing. In PvE, you don't really get anything for failing to beat any bosses or complete any of your quests except a paltry amount of experience (offset by the durability repairs cost) and MAYBE some items. |
| 13:49.19 | Thrae | World of Warcraft is a MMORPG. Groups should be formed by players TALKING to players, -communicating-. |
| 13:49.38 | Thrae | I was very surprised when I first saw Meeting Stones, saying to myself, "How did they think this was going to work?" |
| 13:49.44 | Mikk | hehe |
| 13:49.46 | Mikk | indeed =) |
| 13:50.02 | Mery | thats what i wanted to say :) |
| 13:50.46 | Thrae | There is a thin line between not only genius and insanity, but genius and stupidity too -- it's certainly original and brilliant in its originality, but it's also stupid. |
| 13:51.07 | Thrae | Sometimes even the greatest thinkers can make really stupid conclusions ;) |
| 13:51.21 | Mikk | It sounds like a programmers' solution to me |
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| 13:51.51 | Thrae | Even Einstein tried to keep the universe as a "Steady State" model by introducing the "Cosmological Constant" because of his religious beliefs, a mistake he called the greatest in his life. |
| 13:53.43 | Thrae | Mikk: One of my earlier programming experiences in a DirectX Game Engine had Singleton Pointers all over the place and using pointers when not really necessary because "I thought they were cool" at the time. Ah, the follies of youth. |
| 13:54.30 | Mikk | Well, we all learn to be more pragmatic with time :-) |
| 13:57.55 | JoshBorke | except me, i just pretend i never knew better |
| 14:01.13 | TS|Skrom | Josh, for the freaking win |
| 14:26.59 | Hexarobi | heh cosmological constant |
| 14:27.03 | Hexarobi | what a moron |
| 14:27.45 | Cide | indeed - einstein's a moron! |
| 14:28.17 | Hexarobi | i figured how to mathematically describe gravity and the strong and weak nuclear forces using common math, but ive decided to keep it to myself |
| 14:28.36 | Hexarobi | the world isnt ready for such things |
| 14:34.54 | JoshBorke | you'll tell everyone when CTRA2 comes out, right? ;-) |
| 14:36.01 | jaxdahl | do you need any alpha testers? Hint Hint ;) |
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| 15:09.37 | zinor` | wewt |
| 15:09.40 | zinor` | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/burning-crusade-spells/ - added descriptions :D |
| 15:10.30 | Kirkburn | So ... much ... info! |
| 15:10.50 | zinor` | shouldmake it a lot easier to browse |
| 15:11.10 | zinor` | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/burning-crusade-spells/25.html - esipecially for enchants! :D |
| 15:11.57 | Mery | nice :) |
| 15:14.37 | Kirkburn | Oh, wow, the chart creation screen - high-rs video :) http://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?t=375234 |
| 15:16.00 | Kirkburn | There's loads of styles to choose from :D |
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| 15:16.45 | zinor` | lol @ nda'd content |
| 15:16.53 | Gngsk | Forbidden |
| 15:16.53 | Gngsk | You don't have permission to access /Files/BCCharCreationHiR.wmv on this server. |
| 15:17.00 | zinor` | i heard worldofwar was paying someone w/ a blizzcon key to deconstruct the new mpqs for them |
| 15:17.02 | Mery | i want a barber shop in game |
| 15:17.07 | Kirkburn | See the google vid lower down in the thread |
| 15:17.44 | Kirkburn | zinor, that sounds like a vicious rumour to me |
| 15:17.44 | Gngsk | ahh, ok, I see |
| 15:19.40 | TS|Skrom | rumor was prolly started by someone at curse or wowi :P |
| 15:19.46 | TS|Skrom | I smell shennanigans! |
| 15:20.00 | Kirkburn | I find it a little odd that Rushter is posting alpha stuff on the front page, but then, so is (nearly) everyone |
| 15:21.40 | zinor` | its not |
| 15:21.43 | zinor` | i just talked to the guy they're paying |
| 15:21.44 | zinor` | lol |
| 15:21.52 | zinor` | err |
| 15:21.53 | zinor` | giving it to |
| 15:22.09 | Mery | well they still didn't take down the link to their downloader - usually such stuff is down after a few hours if leaked |
| 15:22.17 | zinor` | i find it odd that an official brownnosing fansite is breaking the eula and promoting people to break it ;) |
| 15:22.25 | Kirkburn | And CG isn't? |
| 15:22.28 | zinor` | ya i found that strange Mery, they probably dont wanna email people again |
| 15:22.31 | zinor` | we're not a fansite Kirkburn |
| 15:22.42 | Shadowed | oh? |
| 15:22.48 | Kirkburn | Strange definition of 'fansite' that |
| 15:22.49 | zinor` | we're not officially supported |
| 15:22.51 | Mery | well not part of the official blizzard fansite progam :) |
| 15:22.54 | zinor` | they're *the* official fansite |
| 15:22.58 | Kirkburn | Ah, I see |
| 15:23.06 | zinor` | and they're promoting the violation of blizzard's EULA |
| 15:23.09 | zinor` | which is very very.. funny imo |
| 15:23.16 | Kirkburn | Well, methinks Blizz would have told Rushster to stop if they were having a problem with it |
| 15:23.28 | zinor` | they're not publicly anouncing this ;P |
| 15:23.29 | Kirkburn | As they would have told CG to stop, and any other site |
| 15:23.51 | Kirkburn | They're not promoting it, they're showing the results of it |
| 15:23.59 | Kirkburn | Neither are they telling people how to do it |
| 15:24.08 | zinor` | they asked for our emails, im sure they're working up the stuff to tell us to stop, we already got dmca'd |
| 15:24.14 | Mery | they could have just posted the link in the protected forum instead of an open site |
| 15:25.27 | Kirkburn | You think they wouldn't have prepared emails before this started? I mean, we've had a week of leaks now, and they don't care |
| 15:25.28 | zinor` | i wont even go as far to post the link to the download :P |
| 15:25.37 | zinor` | no Kirkburn, it came up like thursday or something |
| 15:25.38 | Kirkburn | Except on here ;) |
| 15:25.41 | zinor` | or wednesday cant remember |
| 15:25.50 | zinor` | we didnt post stuff til this weekend on spells db, we got dmcas like thursday or fri |
| 15:26.02 | Kirkburn | What exactly are dcmas? |
| 15:26.16 | zinor` | copyright infringement notice |
| 15:26.25 | Mikk | Digital Millenium Copyright Act |
| 15:26.26 | zenzelezz | DMCA |
| 15:26.27 | Kirkburn | Something seems out of whack here |
| 15:26.31 | Shadowed | doesn't thottbot already post spell data? |
| 15:26.33 | Shadowed | without issues? |
| 15:26.43 | Kirkburn | You got dcmas on thursday, but you posted the info ... afterwards? |
| 15:26.50 | zinor` | thottbot isnt a sponsored site either |
| 15:26.55 | zinor` | dmca's were for images |
| 15:26.57 | zinor` | they cant dmca this |
| 15:27.08 | Shadowed | ah |
| 15:27.15 | zinor` | you cant copyright words, basically |
| 15:27.23 | zinor` | you can however, copyright work, which are images of an nda'd game |
| 15:27.24 | Kirkburn | Hmmm, sounds odd |
| 15:27.36 | zinor` | it gets complicated |
| 15:27.39 | zinor` | but this isnt violating any copyrights |
| 15:27.43 | zinor` | hosting an image from the nda'd game is |
| 15:27.44 | Kirkburn | I supposed because the information isn't the _original_ info |
| 15:27.55 | Kirkburn | Whereas a picture _is_ original |
| 15:28.07 | zinor` | not so black and white like that |
| 15:28.14 | zinor` | but basically, nearly all normal text is fine |
| 15:28.21 | zinor` | if its like, a book, or poem, things like that, there are special rules |
| 15:28.25 | Kirkburn | Well yeah, I'm just simplifying it :P |
| 15:28.51 | zinor` | did you guys see |
| 15:28.56 | zinor` | let me grab the link real fast |
| 15:28.59 | zinor` | http://www.wired.com/news/technology/gizmos/0,71626-0.html?tw=wn_technology_2 |
| 15:29.01 | zinor` | if this really happens |
| 15:29.07 | zinor` | the worlds going to change, majorly |
| 15:29.14 | zinor` | they're supposed to release results sept 8th i think |
| 15:29.35 | Kirkburn | Perpetual motion, eh ... |
| 15:31.13 | Kirkburn | I'll believe it when the panel come back to us |
| 15:31.24 | Kirkburn | But yes, if true, it would change the world |
| 15:32.30 | zinor` | ya |
| 15:32.32 | zinor` | it could like |
| 15:32.33 | zinor` | i mean |
| 15:32.38 | zinor` | its a GREAT thing if it really happens |
| 15:32.41 | zinor` | but can you imagine the chaos? |
| 15:33.33 | Kirkburn | Rather not, I'd rather imagine the utopia after it ;P |
| 15:34.21 | Mery | well its gonna get patented and bought by an engery company to put it in their safe |
| 15:34.36 | zinor` | well |
| 15:34.37 | zinor` | see |
| 15:34.40 | zinor` | the middle east has bad weapons |
| 15:34.43 | zinor` | and the middle east makes money off oil |
| 15:34.45 | zinor` | do you see the problem? |
| 15:34.47 | Kirkburn | Assuming it's real, and all signs ahve always pointed to ... no :) |
| 15:35.38 | zinor` | some guy is telling me something about lasers |
| 15:35.39 | Kirkburn | A more than 100% efficient machine is such an incredible claim that .. well .. it's just impossible with all accepted physics |
| 15:35.40 | zinor` | and hes smarter than me |
| 15:35.43 | zinor` | so i just have to nod my head in agreement |
| 15:36.27 | cogwheel | gah... why do they let us log into the game but not the forums during our billing cycle? :( |
| 15:36.49 | zenzelezz | "accepted physics" only means something we can understand |
| 15:37.05 | Kirkburn | Hah, liek string theory you mean? ;) |
| 15:37.07 | zenzelezz | nature doesn't bother limiting itself to our limited knowledge |
| 15:37.09 | Kirkburn | *like |
| 15:37.15 | zinor` | Kirkburn, tomorrow's news... research scientist killed :P |
| 15:37.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | finel i finished the tranmission code for my addon :p |
| 15:38.00 | Kirkburn | I'm just saying, if true, it would be the most imporant even in human history |
| 15:38.05 | Kirkburn | *event |
| 15:38.11 | Kirkburn | *important |
| 15:38.16 | Kirkburn | *lrn2spell |
| 15:38.24 | zinor` | this kind of makes me think of the paycheck movie Kirkburn |
| 15:38.58 | Kirkburn | Never seen it :) |
| 15:39.11 | Kirkburn | Was the protanogist unable to type as well? ;) |
| 15:39.54 | zinor` | nope but they made a machine to see the future |
| 15:39.57 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys if i may ask .. how do i make a list like the guildrooster member list ?' |
| 15:40.01 | zinor` | and the future is basically that machine destroying the future because people listen to it |
| 15:40.10 | zinor` | it says all these people get a plague, so they herd them together and create a plague |
| 15:40.18 | zinor` | its a great revolutikon that starts the end of the world |
| 15:41.05 | Kirkburn | Guild rooster? Sounds a bit chickeny to me ... is there a guild hen? =) |
| 15:41.47 | Kirkburn | What type of thing are you wanting to make exactly? Just a list of people? |
| 15:42.10 | jaxdahl | zinor, reminds me of this (asimov? clarke?) book where they invent this machine that can see anywhere in the world in realtime, then they start looking back into time with it |
| 15:43.18 | jaxdahl | but it requires more energy to look further back in time |
| 15:43.30 | jaxdahl | eventually they create fusion power or something like that |
| 15:43.41 | jaxdahl | and build bigger power plants to look further back in time, etc |
| 15:44.02 | jaxdahl | people start movements to meet in dark places so they can't be spied on |
| 15:44.13 | jaxdahl | communicating by touch only |
| 15:45.07 | Kirkburn | weird |
| 15:45.29 | |FF|Im2good4u | Kirkburn: i wrtoe a code that transmists addition info about build members (that works) i now willing wrie the interface |
| 15:45.46 | zinor` | bah Kirkburn i dont wanna id, but ya i agree |
| 15:45.56 | |FF|Im2good4u | i want a bigger list (wider) that shows more catogory's |
| 15:46.34 | Kirkburn | Ah, I see |FF|Im2good4u ... I'n not sure how it works, tbh |
| 15:46.45 | Kirkburn | (lazy zinor :P ) |
| 15:46.50 | zinor` | ya :s |
| 15:47.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah oke to bad :P |
| 15:47.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | i could make many button but there hjas tobe some sort of template i gues :P |
| 15:47.41 | cogwheel | |FF|Im2good4u, you might start here: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Scrollable_List_Using_FauxScrollFrameTemplate |
| 15:47.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke |
| 15:48.53 | cogwheel | Also you should look in FrameXML for other examples (the guild frame for instance ;) ) |
| 15:57.02 | Kirkburn | Random question ... what kind of window do you get when you click log off on XP? I get a dialogue window, unlike the special shutdown window (which has icons) |
| 15:57.39 | Kirkburn | And it confuses me, as I've seen other people with a log off window which looks like the shutdown window |
| 15:57.51 | TS|Skrom | do you have windows in classic mode? |
| 15:58.00 | TS|Skrom | theme I mean? |
| 15:58.09 | Kirkburn | Um, I use windowblinds :P |
| 15:58.29 | Kirkburn | But I think it's still like that whether I use normal XP or classic mode |
| 15:59.02 | zenzelezz | I think it depends on whether or not you have the "Welcome screen" enabled |
| 15:59.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | cogwheel: i looked at the guild frame bu its quite hard to undersntad sine there lots of "friends" and other social window code there |
| 15:59.19 | Kirkburn | That could make sense, I'm the only user on this laptop |
| 16:00.44 | Kirkburn | so it's not as if I would need the log off thingy anyway ... I should check the PC downstairs which has multiple users, see if it works on that |
| 16:01.16 | TS|Skrom | http://s74.photobucket.com/albums/i257/derick_donnel/?action=view¤t=logoff.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1 |
| 16:01.37 | Kirkburn | Mmm, I get that |
| 16:01.52 | TS|Skrom | that's me with windows in classic theme |
| 16:02.13 | TS|Skrom | multiple users on this computer (it logs into a domain actually, but there are other system users as well) |
| 16:02.19 | Kirkburn | I spy the original XP theme on there - watercolor |
| 16:02.21 | cogwheel | FriendsFrame.xml & .lua really is the best example. Basically, you just have a bunch of buttons (made up of fontstrings). As the link I sent you mentions, you have to keep track of all the data and the scrollbar yourself and change the list manually. |
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| 16:04.45 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm that was kinda wut i expected |
| 16:05.04 | TS|Skrom | so I think i might finally upload my mod somewhere today. |
| 16:05.17 | TS|Skrom | I've kept it in private use so far, but my friends are telling me I should upload it |
| 16:05.18 | Kirkburn | Hehe, great post about a Windows Vista 'preview' vid: http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060828/see-the-difference-clearly/ |
| 16:05.33 | cogwheel | Maybe the craft or quest frames would be easier to follow since they don't have any tabs... |
| 16:07.50 | cogwheel | kirkburn, i love how they don't bother to actually *show* any stuff from vista... |
| 16:08.03 | cogwheel | how the heck are we supposed to "see the difference"? ;) |
| 16:08.11 | Kirkburn | Awesome dancing and jumping though, must be waht Vista is all about :P |
| 16:08.37 | Kirkburn | I espcially like the "steal my laptop" part ;) |
| 16:09.13 | Kirkburn | Wouldn't _you_ jump about if you had Vista? :P |
| 16:09.57 | cogwheel | ... I'd probably be spending all my "jumping" time screaming "I hate Microsoft" and jumping on the package... :P |
| 16:10.03 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 16:10.26 | cogwheel | speaking of which, I got my antitrust settlement coupon the other day :) |
| 16:10.36 | Kirkburn | I might convince myself to buy Vista Ultimate actually |
| 16:10.53 | Kirkburn | Antitrust coupon? |
| 16:11.23 | Kirkburn | "This coupon is worth 3 'I don't trust Microsoft's" |
| 16:11.46 | cogwheel | Yeah... they settled their case in the US and had to send coupons to everyone who bought their software during a certain time period. I get to send it in and claim my $32 :P |
| 16:12.28 | Kirkburn | "Redeem me to receive a doll which shouts "Microsoft took away my car", "Microsoft put children to death" and other assorted phrases" |
| 16:12.50 | TS|Skrom | "MS stole mah bike!" |
| 16:13.03 | Kirkburn | What will you spend it on? Windows OneCare? ;) |
| 16:13.23 | TS|Skrom | 32$ worth of 1$ tacos? |
| 16:13.26 | cogwheel | Taco bell, more likely |
| 16:13.30 | cogwheel | zomg lol |
| 16:13.31 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 16:13.37 | TS|Skrom | I WIN! |
| 16:14.06 | cogwheel | too bad Mr_Rabies isn't here.... |
| 16:15.28 | Hexarobi | jack in the box gives 2 tacos for $1 |
| 16:15.48 | cogwheel | they also give me other...unwanted side effects... |
| 16:15.51 | Hexarobi | i wonder how much profit they turn on those 50 cent tacos |
| 16:16.24 | cogwheel | At least Taco Bell uses real cheese and "fresh" vegetables... ;) |
| 16:20.35 | Hexarobi | but they dont deep fry the lettuce |
| 16:20.47 | Hexarobi | ill be damned if im gunna pay retail price for unfried lettuce |
| 16:21.26 | Kirkburn | sickening ... why must you fry everything? |
| 16:24.15 | wereHamster | "ATI is a GPU manufacture known for their Radeon lines of cards, and notoriously terrible Linux drivers. Information can be found here: www.ati.com" - information about the notoriously terrible Linux drivers? I doubt they mention it on their homepage ;) |
| 16:24.39 | Kirkburn | What's that from? |
| 16:25.06 | wereHamster | linux-gamers.net |
| 16:25.19 | wereHamster | http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1761 |
| 16:25.41 | Kirkburn | Ah, a linux website :P |
| 16:26.06 | zinor` | is the site empty? |
| 16:26.07 | zinor` | lol |
| 16:26.10 | zinor` | or does it have solitaire |
| 16:28.40 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 16:28.40 | Kirkburn | I'm guessing Pacman clones ;P |
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| 16:37.46 | zinor` | there Kirkburn |
| 16:37.49 | zinor` | no one can miss my spell db now |
| 16:37.53 | zinor` | i made it spam every page |
| 16:37.54 | zinor` | lol |
| 16:38.05 | zinor` | except the sites dieing |
| 16:38.05 | Kirkburn | weirdo =) |
| 16:39.32 | zinor` | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4242-1-bloodfang-ui.html |
| 16:39.33 | zinor` | lol |
| 16:40.40 | Kirkburn | Waitasec ... one day it would be nice to be told when people are packaging my addon |
| 16:41.21 | JoshBorke | wait a tick! |
| 16:41.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Scrollable_List_Using_FauxScrollFrameTemplate <- shold bem oved ot incomplte :P |
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| 16:43.06 | zinor` | is curse loading slower than normal? |
| 16:43.08 | zinor` | i think its just our connection |
| 16:43.18 | Cide | I have no idea what you just said, |FF|Im2good4u |
| 16:43.39 | Kirkburn | "should be moved to incomplete" |
| 16:43.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | should be moved to incomplete |
| 16:43.44 | Cide | thank you |
| 16:45.45 | TS|Skrom | wewt |
| 16:45.46 | TS|Skrom | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/lastaddons.html |
| 16:45.51 | TS|Skrom | I'm #1! |
| 16:46.15 | Kirkburn | JCinDE? |
| 16:46.21 | Mery | whats missing in it |FF|Im2good4u? |
| 16:46.36 | TS|Skrom | >< |
| 16:46.52 | TS|Skrom | Mine shows up first on my screen >< |
| 16:47.00 | Kirkburn | What is it, TS|Skrom ? |
| 16:47.15 | TS|Skrom | read the description :p |
| 16:47.23 | TS|Skrom | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4987-1-skroms-heal-help.html |
| 16:47.47 | Kirkburn | Ah, probably need a server refresh for me to see it |
| 16:48.32 | Kirkburn | 1.7.1 is the first release? You've been busy :) |
| 16:48.37 | |FF|Im2good4u | Mery i got spammed whit errors but now i didnt error i jsut dont thee the window at al :p bu the does reacet to my mouse :P |
| 16:49.22 | |FF|Im2good4u | oh wow it does work now its jsut outside of my screen window lol |
| 16:49.34 | TS|Skrom | lol yeah I've been working on it just for my friends for awhile |
| 16:49.44 | TS|Skrom | 1.0 -> 1.1 was a complete rewrite |
| 16:49.49 | TS|Skrom | and then I went from there |
| 16:50.11 | Mery | well I have build my first scrollframe using that tutorial and didn't ran into errors... (well not that i remeber) |
| 16:50.24 | TS|Skrom | when I'm pretty happy with the way it went with this version I'm gonna bump it up to 2.0 and call it done |
| 16:50.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | my prob is that i use ui desinger :p |
| 16:51.31 | cogwheel | zinor` Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: No space left on device in /usr/home/www/curse-gaming.com/cursesvn/class/file.php on line 1489 |
| 16:51.33 | cogwheel | Failed to create: /mnt/ramdisk/cache/profile-125560 |
| 16:52.08 | Thrae | Ouch! That's an error you never want to see from your web server! |
| 16:52.12 | TS|Skrom | added 3 screenshots just now |
| 16:53.00 | Kirkburn | Anyone heard of otravi CastingBar? |
| 16:53.18 | Thrae | I've been using it for a long time, Kirkburn. |
| 16:53.25 | cogwheel | only in that XP Bar None has an otravi texture option ;) |
| 16:53.26 | Kirkburn | What's it like, and where can I find it? |
| 16:53.38 | Thrae | Kirkburn: svn.wowace.com/files/ |
| 16:54.06 | Kirkburn | What does it look like? |
| 16:54.41 | Thrae | A spiffier version of the normal casting bar, and has delay estimate for each time you are hit while casting |
| 16:54.58 | Kirkburn | How does it compare to eCastingBar, do you know? |
| 16:55.04 | cogwheel | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1403.0.html |
| 16:55.43 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Looks similiar to eCastingBar and doesn't do anything insane like iterating over all 120 action buttons to try and determine a spell's rank. |
| 16:56.12 | Kirkburn | Ah, a bit easier on the old computer's noggin, eh? |
| 16:56.24 | Thrae | Much easier, haste has optimized it well. |
| 16:56.45 | Kirkburn | Ace 2? |
| 16:56.55 | Thrae | Indeed. |
| 16:57.01 | Kirkburn | Even better |
| 16:57.08 | Kirkburn | I'll try it out :) |
| 16:57.22 | cogwheel | no it's not... |
| 16:57.23 | Thrae | Really, I don't know what else one would want out of their casting bar except -- Spell Name, time to cast (in numerical ms), and delay estimate |
| 16:57.29 | Thrae | It's not Ace2? |
| 16:57.35 | Thrae | Oh right, it was developed before Ace2 |
| 16:57.38 | cogwheel | err... not the one from the forum link |
| 16:57.50 | Kirkburn | oh :( |
| 16:57.59 | Thrae | Yeah it uses Ace 1.3 |
| 16:58.16 | Kirkburn | Bah, I've got 1.3 installed for FuBar anyway |
| 16:59.09 | Kirkburn | Is there something like Discord for Ace? |
| 16:59.33 | Cairenn|sleep | *which* discord? unit frames, action bars? |
| 16:59.45 | cogwheel | morning, cairenn :) |
| 16:59.47 | Kirkburn | Ah, that's a good point :P Mornin' |
| 17:00.04 | Kirkburn | It's probably a very noobish question anyway ... unit frames |
| 17:00.09 | Cairenn | lol, been awake for quite some time now, just forgot to change my nick |
| 17:00.19 | Thrae | Kirkburn: If you know even a little lua, you can easily get away with using Visor+VisorButtons for a Discord Frame Modifier / Discord Action Bar / Discord Art substitute. |
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| 17:00.41 | Kirkburn | I remember Visor ... the name choosing bit anyway |
| 17:00.42 | Warla|school | howdy |
| 17:00.56 | TS|Skrom | wuwu I have 1 download already :p |
| 17:01.01 | Kirkburn | howzer |
| 17:01.12 | Kirkburn | Bet it was you 'testing' it ;) |
| 17:01.25 | TS|Skrom | nope! promise! |
| 17:01.26 | Thrae | There is no Ace version of Discord Unit Frames because we don't find it necessary. Instead, there are many different Ace versions of Unit Frames. You pick the one you want and customize it as much as you can. There is no 1 Ace Unit Frames that is as customizable as Discord Unit Frames. |
| 17:01.29 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat83.html |
| 17:01.34 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 17:01.41 | Cide | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/ajv630/kangarowned.gif |
| 17:01.51 | Cide | (totally unrelated) |
| 17:02.02 | Kirkburn | Hehe |
| 17:02.03 | Cairenn | awwww, poor roo! |
| 17:02.27 | Kirkburn | I found a bunch of those clips recently ... /me looks them |
| 17:03.25 | Kirkburn | It was on here, anyway: http://www.funnyanimalblog.com/ |
| 17:06.47 | TS|Skrom | ib curse is there anyway to select which screen shot is shown on the default? |
| 17:08.22 | Kirkburn | I'm a little confused by the numbering system of some addons on the Ace SVN ... mostly how everything seems to be in the 9000s, yet the versions on wowi sometimes have different stuff |
| 17:09.06 | cogwheel | those are probably the revision numbers. each time someone uploads a change, that number increments |
| 17:09.35 | Kirkburn | And the revisions apply to _everything_ on Ace |
| 17:09.53 | Kirkburn | It somewhat explains why FuBar leapt up in version numbers |
| 17:10.12 | Thrae | Kirkburn: That's the revision based on the number of total commits to the SVN, consider that like a "minor revision". Just look at World of Warcraft. It is version 1.12, but we all know there have been many different revisions just on 1.12 before it was released, yet it is still called 1.12. This is because 1.12 is the "major revision", or "release revision". |
| 17:10.38 | Thrae | Kirkburn: FuBar went to 2.0 because it had massive API changes and now uses Ace2.0. |
| 17:10.47 | Kirkburn | No, no, not that |
| 17:10.49 | Cairenn | Cide: you there hon? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5965 if you are |
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| 17:11.03 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 17:11.32 | Qzot | How goes it this morning, Cairenn? |
| 17:11.35 | Kirkburn | I meant that the revisions number apply across all of the svn, not for each addon individually? |
| 17:11.43 | TS|Skrom | 6 downloads now! couldn't be all me! lol |
| 17:11.43 | JoshBorke | Kirkburn, currect |
| 17:11.54 | Cairenn | Qzot: not bad, you? |
| 17:12.12 | Qzot | Doing just fine. |
| 17:12.19 | Cairenn | good to hear |
| 17:12.28 | Kirkburn | That's for the link to there btw, it reminded me to check for Ace 2 versions of the FuBar plugins |
| 17:12.46 | Qzot | Is it true, that when Quebec was considering secession,... |
| 17:13.06 | Qzot | ...that the Newfies were excited about the possibility of shortening their drive time to Toronto? |
| 17:13.14 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:13.22 | Qzot | :D |
| 17:13.58 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Yeah the author has the option to make it only apply to their addon, but most just take the HEAD revision. That way it's easy to look for the revisions in commit log. If everyone includes a changelog.txt (which is now the standard for the Ace SVN), then you will know how many revisions were done. |
| 17:14.46 | Kirkburn | Soo ... this is a bit odd ... the GuildFu addon is apprently actually BagSlots ... |
| 17:15.12 | Kirkburn | That sounds like a mistake ... |
| 17:15.29 | Thrae | FuBar2.0 version of GuildFu is on http://svn.wowace.com/files/ too |
| 17:15.29 | Kirkburn | Thrae, yeah, it looks good :) |
| 17:15.39 | Kirkburn | That's what I'm looking at Thrae ... |
| 17:15.44 | Kirkburn | And I'm getting BagSlots |
| 17:15.50 | Thrae | Oh? Then it's clad's script screwing up |
| 17:16.07 | Kirkburn | The changelog is correct, but the addon ain't |
| 17:16.34 | Cairenn | hey phyber? |
| 17:16.42 | Kirkburn | Lol, and the BagSlots addon is correct, but _also_ has the guildfu addon |
| 17:16.59 | zenzelezz | ffs, stupid Silvermoon |
| 17:17.26 | Thrae | Kirkburn: I just uploaded a new revision with no change, try that |
| 17:17.36 | Kirkburn | the guild fu addon toc, I mean |
| 17:17.42 | Kirkburn | Shall check |
| 17:18.05 | Kirkburn | That's better :) |
| 17:18.25 | Kirkburn | (it also came up with the wrong info on the svn list, but that's now sorted too) |
| 17:20.50 | Kirkburn | Yay for lots of FuBar addons :) |
| 17:25.11 | Beladona | monkeys! |
| 17:25.23 | Cairenn | hi Beladona |
| 17:26.15 | Beladona | hiya |
| 17:26.51 | Kirkburn | giraffe! |
| 17:26.56 | MentalPower | hey Beladona |
| 17:27.28 | MentalPower | any chance of getting the BurningCrusade interface files into WDN? |
| 17:28.27 | Thrae | Not unless Blizzard gives their explicit or at least implicit OK, I'd say. |
| 17:28.28 | Beladona | I honestly have to say no |
| 17:28.44 | Beladona | I am not too comfortable with relasing content that is protected by NDA |
| 17:28.55 | Beladona | regardless of how easy it was to obtain |
| 17:29.03 | Kirkburn | =( |
| 17:29.16 | Cairenn | I hadn't said anything about the request you guys were making over the weekend until I had a chance to talk to Bela, but come on guys, you know we have to walk the line |
| 17:29.18 | Beladona | I did run a compare though |
| 17:29.21 | Cairenn | that'd be crossing it |
| 17:29.32 | Kirkburn | Okies, that's fair enough |
| 17:29.35 | Beladona | I just don't want to piss off the wrong people |
| 17:29.56 | Kirkburn | I'll still keep them up for download, but don't go giving out the address :) |
| 17:30.20 | Thrae | Well, considering the client has been unofficially released to umpty-million interface sites, Blizzard may just say "the hell with it" for the Interface files at least, it does no harm there |
| 17:30.41 | Kirkburn | Once we're into the 'public' beta, will you be okay with it then? |
| 17:30.48 | Thrae | The talents and new spells and new mobs and new items and such people are pulling out of the client's database are another story. |
| 17:31.13 | Qzot | Any word on the timing of beta? |
| 17:31.21 | Kirkburn | How many interface sites do you think there are Thrae? ;) |
| 17:31.32 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Obviously, umpty-million! |
| 17:31.35 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 17:31.41 | Kirkburn | Qzot, no, not yet |
| 17:31.42 | Beladona | Kirkburn, public beta's usually coincide with nda lifting |
| 17:31.43 | Beladona | so yeah |
| 17:32.07 | Kirkburn | I'm guessing very very soon |
| 17:32.12 | Qzot | Are we going to form a modders' guild for beta? |
| 17:32.15 | Thrae | Qzot: The timing will be 1/sec. |
| 17:32.23 | Beladona | they are likely to have a closed beta first though |
| 17:32.25 | Kirkburn | If it's a playable alpha, I'm guessing this is mainly for them to get it set up properly |
| 17:32.37 | Kirkburn | Beladona, they're alreayd having the closed one ;) |
| 17:32.48 | Beladona | thats alpha |
| 17:32.52 | Beladona | big difference |
| 17:32.57 | Kirkburn | Yes, but it's just a name really |
| 17:33.02 | Qzot | So, uh, for those who went to BlizzCon and have a beta ticket, is that 'closed' or 'public' beta? |
| 17:33.12 | Cairenn | we've no idea |
| 17:33.33 | Qzot | Okay. If Cairenn is clueless, I'm prepared to stay ignorant as well. :D |
| 17:33.38 | Kirkburn | Well, depends how you define it ... are defining closed as one under an NDA? |
| 17:34.00 | Thrae | Legally there's nothing wrong with looking at the interface files as Blizzard provides a tool to extract them, hence it's not "hacking". And there's no legal problem with grabbing the client as Blizzard really provided no protection. It's just Blizzard might be pissed, which is why WoWI is right in their stance. |
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| 17:34.45 | Kirkburn | It's weird, isn't it ... that they didn't bother to protect the download in _any_ way |
| 17:34.56 | Thrae | Qzot: Normally, a "closed beta" means that only a select number of people can play, this is to route out major design issues, while a "public beta" is a stress test with open enrollment. Both may or may not have a NDA. |
| 17:35.23 | Kirkburn | Therefore the beta must be closed, since it's invite only |
| 17:35.30 | Qzot | Wow. (Different topic.) We're looking at the PlayOn data for "people" who play a lot... |
| 17:35.52 | Thrae | Usually the "alpha" stage is internal, it doesn't necessarily mean the game is unplayable. |
| 17:36.03 | Qzot | The top "people" playing are spending about 148 hours a week online. Out of 168 possible. |
| 17:36.10 | Kirkburn | ooh-err |
| 17:36.20 | Kirkburn | And the rest is downtime? |
| 17:36.33 | Qzot | You can guess how many hours are for maintenance. |
| 17:36.40 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 17:36.45 | Thrae | Qzot: That's nothing. Take a look at Korean MMORPGs. They have people that play 200 hours a week! |
| 17:37.01 | Qzot | That's ... um ... impressive. |
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| 17:37.08 | TS|Skrom | 24*7=168.... O.o |
| 17:37.14 | Qzot | Exactly. |
| 17:37.22 | Thrae | Seriously, some Korean players in those MMORPGs are insane. |
| 17:37.44 | TS|Skrom | they'd have to be to think ther are 200 hours in a week ;) |
| 17:37.50 | Qzot | One other tidbit: The average WoW player averages 2.3 zones per hour of play. |
| 17:38.08 | Qzot | 24/7 players average 3 hours in one zone. |
| 17:38.25 | Thrae | That PlayOn data may not be accurate due to account sharing, but there is -real proof- that there are Koreans who play like 100+ hours per week on their MMORPGs. |
| 17:38.56 | TS|Skrom | don't think anyone doubted that, crazy mo-fos |
| 17:39.04 | Kirkburn | "may not be accurate due to account sharing" ... shurely not! :P |
| 17:39.11 | TS|Skrom | I mean they have people dieing in net cafe's over there O.o |
| 17:39.13 | Qzot | We make virtue of necessity, and only study characters, since we can't know about players or accounts. |
| 17:39.13 | Thrae | There was one Korean couple who lost their child since they would spend weeks at online gaming centers, and guess what they were playing...World of Warcraft. |
| 17:39.37 | Kirkburn | Ban these sick games! |
| 17:39.46 | TS|Skrom | totally /me looks up jack thompson's number |
| 17:40.13 | Hexarobi | is that the good or the bad korea? |
| 17:40.14 | Qzot | I'm sure the problems are similar here, except that people can rent their own apartments and neglect their children in the privacy of their own homes. |
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| 17:40.23 | Thrae | TS|Skrom: 1-555-IMANASS |
| 17:40.57 | Thrae | Hexarobi: About 10% of North Korea has electricity, you be the judge. |
| 17:41.18 | Qzot | For those of you who have beta passes, have you already activated/registered/tied them to an account? |
| 17:41.46 | cogwheel | I have |
| 17:41.46 | Kirkburn | "Ban this sick filth!" .. one of the most headlines in the UK. It was about GTA iirc ... |
| 17:41.54 | Kirkburn | s/most/most famous/ |
| 17:41.55 | Thrae | Kirkburn: So much for Libertarianism |
| 17:42.18 | cogwheel | Ha! Libertarianism in Europe?? |
| 17:42.27 | Kirkburn | It was the front page of the Daily Mail. Anyone who lives in the UK knows what the Daily Mail is like ... |
| 17:43.11 | Kirkburn | The Daily Mail wants to bring back capital punishments, wants to stop immigration, etc, etc ... |
| 17:43.57 | Kirkburn | Of all the UK newspapers it is the one that angers me the most, and _nearly every_ newspaper angers me |
| 17:44.45 | Kirkburn | Oooh, there was a thing in the paper today about stealing 'magic swords and invisible cloaks' in MMOs - will have to have a read about that :P |
| 17:45.02 | Gngsk | ninja! |
| 17:45.11 | Gngsk | /wrists |
| 17:46.01 | Qzot | For those of you who have beta passes, have you already activated/registered/tied them to an account? |
| 17:46.08 | Cairenn | I have |
| 17:46.20 | Qzot | Which? |
| 17:46.26 | Qzot | All 3? |
| 17:46.40 | Cairenn | meh, entered the card when I got home |
| 17:46.59 | Cairenn | how tightly that binds it to my account ... we'll see when it all comes out |
| 17:47.04 | Qzot | I did that for my murloc, and abandoned that server a week later. :( |
| 17:47.12 | Cairenn | Qzot: me too :( |
| 17:47.28 | Cairenn | can't believe they didn't make murky account instead of character |
| 17:47.30 | Cairenn | :( |
| 17:47.59 | Beladona | guess they didn't want you to have lots of them, one per character |
| 17:48.01 | Qzot | Yup. Or let you transfer it as one of your limited recoveries or something. |
| 17:50.09 | Qzot | Wow. The average *character* is played 8 hours per week. |
| 17:50.22 | Qzot | Slightly more on RP and PvP servers. |
| 17:52.20 | Kirkburn | Damn, I'm left with just 3 Ace 1.3 addons ... otravi CastingBar, AmmoFu and DurabilityFu :( |
| 17:52.55 | Kirkburn | Anyone know if i'm likely to find any updates for the last two? They're not listed on the Ace svn |
| 17:53.51 | Kirkburn | ~poke ckknight |
| 17:53.54 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind ckknight, pokes ckknight repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:56.18 | Beladona | the average character is 8 hours per week? |
| 17:56.24 | Beladona | damn, I think I have 4 times that |
| 17:56.28 | Beladona | or more |
| 17:56.32 | Rallion | w00t. |
| 17:56.36 | Rallion | my domain is set up. |
| 17:56.44 | Kirkburn | Cool, what did you get? |
| 17:56.48 | Beladona | w00t.com? |
| 17:56.48 | krka | someone set you up the domain? |
| 17:56.56 | Rallion | SOMEONE SET US UP THE DOMAIN |
| 17:56.58 | Kirkburn | Someone set you up the bomb? |
| 17:57.00 | Rallion | lol no, just rallion.org |
| 17:57.04 | Beladona | ahh |
| 17:57.08 | Kirkburn | damn, too slow |
| 17:57.16 | Rallion | I have nothing in particular to put there |
| 17:57.28 | Rallion | but I'll probably enjoy it a great deal |
| 17:57.30 | Kirkburn | It's always useful to have, though |
| 17:58.12 | Rallion | if even only as an easy place to put files to access elsewhere |
| 17:58.18 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ven (n=ven@dyndsl-085-016-090-114.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 17:58.18 | Kirkburn | I've bought more than 10 domains recently |
| 17:58.40 | Rallion | well I got the domain + hosting |
| 17:59.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kirov (n=Kirov@204.155.78.126) |
| 17:59.55 | Kirkburn | Currently it seems to be an ad site :/ |
| 18:00.31 | Kirkburn | Related categories "Pride Rally" ... "Rally Car" ... and then ...... "Iraq War Casualties" |
| 18:00.31 | krka | finding good hosting is almost always the biggest problem |
| 18:02.03 | Rallion | yes, kirkburn...that's what they put up there by default |
| 18:02.17 | Rallion | maybe I can find one of those old-school "Under construction" animations |
| 18:02.24 | Rallion | haven't seen one of those in years |
| 18:03.58 | Cairenn | http://images.google.ca/images?q=website%20icon%20under%20construction&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wi :p |
| 18:04.20 | Rallion | lol |
| 18:04.23 | Rallion | wow |
| 18:04.38 | Rallion | http://library.ust.hk/clip-art/leo/icon/construct/under_construction4.gif <-- yes. |
| 18:05.06 | Kirov | http://www.flamencosevilla.co.uk/images/icon12hp.jpg - ... |
| 18:05.45 | Cairenn | Rallion: this one is good: http://www.tekenteam.nl/img/underconstruction.gif |
| 18:06.24 | Cairenn | hah, want an animated one? |
| 18:06.33 | Cairenn | http://www.col-lor.fsnet.co.uk/images/wall.gif |
| 18:06.40 | krka | urgh... under construction gifs... |
| 18:06.44 | krka | that is sooooo 90's |
| 18:07.26 | Cairenn | http://www.waller.co.uk/animate/undercon.gif |
| 18:08.39 | cogwheel | Just put a black background with the white text: "Nothing to see here..." |
| 18:08.41 | Rallion | that wall one just killed all my unborn children |
| 18:08.43 | cogwheel | :) |
| 18:08.51 | Cairenn | http://viator-mundi.com/Animated/images/Under%20Construction.gif |
| 18:09.03 | krka | stop spamming cair or i'll have to kick you :( |
| 18:09.23 | Kirov | Cairenn - that one doesn't look like he's digging ... that one just looks really really wrong |
| 18:09.30 | krka | hmm... wrong channel, i am powerless here :( |
| 18:09.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:09.37 | cogwheel | The fact that I was thinking the same thing disturbs me, kirov |
| 18:09.45 | TS|Skrom | ditto |
| 18:09.56 | krka | weird... i was just thinking it looked really hot but couldn't figure out why |
| 18:09.58 | cogwheel | Maybe it's the shape of his ... shovel |
| 18:10.40 | krka | we've all heard this line: "is that a shovel in your pants or are you just happy to see me?" |
| 18:11.10 | Kirov | Ah yes, it was just yesterday when I didn't hear that line ever. |
| 18:11.14 | zenzelezz | aaargh, BWL server for Silvermoon is horrible tonight |
| 18:11.30 | TS|Skrom | I hear it all the time ^.^ |
| 18:11.58 | TS|Skrom | for those of you who didn't get that subtle humor I was implying that I have a monster johnson |
| 18:12.00 | TS|Skrom | fyi |
| 18:12.34 | Beladona | monster, as in it scares everyone away? |
| 18:12.49 | TS|Skrom | Torch and pitchforks even :( |
| 18:12.57 | TS|Skrom | rawr |
| 18:13.02 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 18:13.14 | TS|Skrom | O.o |
| 18:13.15 | krka | rawr |
| 18:13.21 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 18:13.31 | MentalPower | yes, its an auto-responder |
| 18:13.33 | TS|Skrom | wtf? |
| 18:13.35 | MentalPower | rawr |
| 18:13.38 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - I'm not sure what having a monster named johnson has anything to do with the conversation. |
| 18:13.40 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 18:13.52 | phyber | Cairenn: hi, you were looking for me? |
| 18:13.54 | TS|Skrom | what is that, some kind of gay cyber chat auto responder? |
| 18:14.25 | TS|Skrom | tee hee rawr |
| 18:14.47 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - I'd say he sounds scared, not happy. |
| 18:15.13 | TS|Skrom | erm.. yes I see your point... |
| 18:16.31 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 18:17.04 | Kirov | Also mispelling simple words like a feind |
| 18:17.24 | Rallion | ugh FTP access is messed up. |
| 18:17.48 | krka | you have a shell account i hope? |
| 18:17.53 | krka | on a bsd/linux server? |
| 18:18.40 | Rallion | it's BSD, but I don't have a shell acct |
| 18:18.44 | Cairenn | phyber: http://ckknight.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=54&a=viewfeature&featureid=893 |
| 18:18.51 | Cairenn | since you've taken over the mod |
| 18:18.58 | Rallion | it's weird, it's not responding to LIST |
| 18:19.22 | Rallion | i guess it could be a problem on my end, maybe, sorta, not really |
| 18:19.42 | phyber | Cairenn: ahh, ok. Should be simple enough :) |
| 18:19.58 | Cairenn | much luv! |
| 18:20.12 | Rallion | it works out of passive mode, actually |
| 18:20.18 | Kirov | zomg h4x0r! |
| 18:20.36 | jaxdahl | am i late? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/talents-and-spells.html |
| 18:20.53 | Rallion | i used to know exactly what that means, because I had to write a P2P client that used FTP for inter-client communication. |
| 18:20.57 | MentalPower | damn, was just about to link that |
| 18:21.05 | Rallion | Oh. now I remember. |
| 18:21.57 | Rallion | well, if pasv doesn't work, I'm pretty sure that's the server's problem. |
| 18:22.58 | krka | whoa... just got a comment on GRAB... and i haven't updated it in ages |
| 18:23.00 | Rallion | does anybody know? which side initiates connections in passive/active FTP sessions? |
| 18:23.31 | krka | JoshBorke: you actually use GRAB? O_o that's cool i guess :) |
| 18:25.36 | Kirov | anyone know if I nil out a table as I iterate over it with k, v in ipairs if it'll get unhappy? |
| 18:26.15 | Kirov | for k, v in ipairs(tableName) do |
| 18:26.15 | Kirov | -- stuff |
| 18:26.15 | Kirov | tableName[k] = nil; |
| 18:26.15 | Kirov | end |
| 18:26.41 | Rallion | I'm pretty sure it only evaluates ipairs once |
| 18:26.49 | Rallion | so it should be fine |
| 18:27.03 | Kirov | anyone care to test? |
| 18:27.17 | Kirov | before I make possibly mod breaking changes with out the ability to test it myself |
| 18:27.53 | krka | should work fine |
| 18:27.53 | MentalPower | Kirov: it works fine |
| 18:27.58 | Kirov | danke |
| 18:28.02 | MentalPower | I have a function that nils out tables for reuse |
| 18:28.12 | krka | ipairs basically just counts up from 1 |
| 18:28.17 | krka | until it finds a nil |
| 18:30.57 | Kirov | MentalPower - how's itemizer |
| 18:31.56 | Kirov | s/cal/can/ |
| 18:32.15 | MentalPower | still working on my decoding functions, I hit a snag with my string splitting function choking on UTF-8 chars that I use, but thats fixed now (thanks to http://lua-users.org/) |
| 18:32.27 | Cairenn | for those of you that missed it last night: Background, guild pulling Firemaw, Guild Leader for whatever reason decides to inspect the Main Tank and discovers that the MT is in full resist gear. *Shadow* resist, that is. So, GL and some of the others in the guild made this up to help the MT in future:  http://evilempireguild.org/misc/FiremawChant.mp3 |
| 18:32.37 | phyber | Cairenn: got it working :) should be a new version available shortly. |
| 18:32.48 | Cairenn | phyber: YUMMY! *kiss* |
| 18:33.03 | Cairenn | get it uploaded to WoWI :) |
| 18:33.34 | Kirkburn | jaxdahl, thanks for the link! |
| 18:33.43 | Kirov | Cairenn - lol |
| 18:33.47 | MentalPower | phyber: are you in charge of FuBar - NetStatsFu? |
| 18:34.01 | Kirov | Cairenn - I saw that yesterday but didn't listen to it |
| 18:34.12 | TS|Skrom | wow shamans getting dual wield O.o |
| 18:34.15 | Kirov | cogwheel - medic! |
| 18:34.19 | MentalPower | Cairenn: OMG, can't... speak... having... a... laughing... fit |
| 18:34.24 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 18:34.26 | cogwheel | kirov, you did not just say that... |
| 18:34.37 | cogwheel | I am actually writing out a description of Medic... |
| 18:34.56 | cogwheel | which is what prompted me to say that in the first place... |
| 18:36.06 | phyber | Cairenn: will do, just cleaning it up a bit :) |
| 18:36.11 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:36.12 | Kirov | I just keep thinking of the Starcraft Medic voice |
| 18:36.26 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.37 | MentalPower | You want another physical? |
| 18:36.38 | Kirov | To quote a blizzard employee, "Yes, the woman who voices that _is_ as hot as she sounds." |
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| 18:37.33 | Kirkburn | Awesome!! Begins a ritual that creates a Soulwell. Raid members can click the Soulwell to acquire a Master Healthstone. |
| 18:37.47 | Kirkburn | (Ritual of Souls, that was) |
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| 18:38.21 | Eraphine|Lab | Any suggestions for a unit frames here? |
| 18:38.35 | TS|Skrom | I like perl |
| 18:38.40 | Eraphine|Lab | Perl Classic? |
| 18:38.41 | TS|Skrom | or is it pearl? |
| 18:38.46 | Kirkburn | perl |
| 18:38.48 | TS|Skrom | Nymbia is what I use |
| 18:38.53 | Eraphine|Lab | Ah ha. |
| 18:38.58 | Kirkburn | Awesome that my main is a lock :D |
| 18:39.17 | TS|Skrom | I always go for minimalist approach and nymbia fit the bill for me |
| 18:39.28 | TS|Skrom | Soulwell looks neat |
| 18:39.31 | cogwheel | My original main is a warrior, but the guild we raid with has too many warriors as-is |
| 18:39.55 | Kirkburn | Rallion, I like your updated homepage ;P |
| 18:45.24 | Rallion | lol I just fixed it |
| 18:45.41 | Rallion | I couldn't remember how to do certain things in CSS so I was playing |
| 18:45.46 | Kirkburn | All you did was move it :P |
| 18:45.51 | Rallion | hehe yes. |
| 18:46.00 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> II must remember to put on my fire resistance gear before fighting Firemaw| Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 18:46.12 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> I must remember to put on my fire resistance gear before fighting Firemaw| Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 18:46.19 | Kirkburn | Rallion, since it's not width:100%, it's on one side of the screen - right? |
| 18:46.47 | Kirkburn | (it's on the left side, I'm checking that was intended) |
| 18:47.11 | Rallion | i was actually trying to get it centered, it looks like I meant it to in FF |
| 18:47.12 | Rallion | oh. |
| 18:47.14 | Rallion | I see. |
| 18:47.19 | Kirkburn | It you want it in the middle, you'd want margin-left:auto |
| 18:47.23 | Kirkburn | And margin-right:auto |
| 18:47.37 | Kirkburn | (and no width) |
| 18:47.45 | Rallion | there. |
| 18:47.49 | Rallion | now it looks right. |
| 18:47.56 | Kirkburn | Or that ;) |
| 18:48.10 | Rallion | hehe |
| 18:48.53 | Kirkburn | phyber, I see the new MoneyFu :P |
| 18:49.21 | phyber | :) |
| 18:49.40 | phyber | new TopScoreFu will be there soon. |
| 18:49.48 | Kirkburn | Coolio |
| 18:50.01 | phyber | it's working, but I'm just lazy at asking Cairenn to move it over to me :p |
| 18:50.16 | Kirkburn | I'm just using the Ace SVN myself |
| 18:50.47 | Kirkburn | So I'm guessing I'm already using the updated one :P |
| 18:51.12 | Rallion | actually, margin-left/right and no width doesn't work, because I have the positioning set to absolute |
| 18:51.30 | Kirkburn | Well don't? |
| 18:52.14 | Kirkburn | I see a mistake in the SVN code :P |
| 18:52.28 | Kirkburn | "No Desiption Given" |
| 18:52.50 | Kirkburn | clad|sleep, wrote it? |
| 18:54.22 | Cairenn | phyber: you took over http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4761-FuBar_-_Top_ScoreFu.html as well? |
| 18:54.37 | Cairenn | so why didn't you give me the link at the same time? |
| 18:55.20 | phyber | Cairenn: I wasn't finished with it at the time. :) |
| 18:55.46 | phyber | but I am now and it works nicely. |
| 18:56.14 | Kirkburn | Silly phyber :P |
| 18:56.25 | Cairenn | well, ownership transfer in the works |
| 18:57.09 | phyber | I might have RestFu too, just have to check with Thiana. |
| 18:58.26 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, you know that construction pic link you put earlier ... noticed what the 8th one is? http://images.google.ca/images?q=website%20icon%20under%20construction&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 18:58.54 | Cairenn | heh |
| 18:58.54 | Kirkburn | It gets _everywhere_ =) |
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| 19:00.50 | Kirkburn | Great, another wiki vandal |
| 19:01.01 | Kanzie | My mod wont load, where should I start to bugtrack? |
| 19:01.43 | Kanzie | I have a onload statement where I call a function in the lua |
| 19:01.43 | MentalPower | is it installed correctly? |
| 19:02.07 | MentalPower | does the game recognize the AddOn? |
| 19:02.20 | Kanzie | In the addon-menu yes, but not when I reloadui |
| 19:02.23 | MentalPower | also, can you post your XML file? (http://wowi.pastey.net/) |
| 19:03.12 | Kirov | Kanzie - have you checked your FrameXML.log? |
| 19:03.31 | Kanzie | no |
| 19:03.52 | Rallion | holy crap, BC has WAY more talents than I expected |
| 19:04.08 | Kanzie | http://wowi.pastey.net/462 |
| 19:05.54 | Kirov | Kanzie - instead of SendChatMessage(text, type) try DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(text) |
| 19:06.06 | MentalPower | was just about to say that |
| 19:06.13 | Kanzie | What is the difference?! |
| 19:06.36 | cogwheel | sendchatmessage has to communicate with the server |
| 19:06.38 | MentalPower | SendChatMessage tells everyone around you that you jsut loaded your addon |
| 19:06.49 | MentalPower | :AddMessage() on the other hand only tells you |
| 19:06.50 | Kirov | Kanzie - SendChatMessage is doing a "say", which might happen before your chat log is even setup to accept those events. |
| 19:06.51 | Kanzie | hyehe |
| 19:06.57 | Kirkburn | This is madness: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:BoozyeuIogist |
| 19:06.59 | Kanzie | ok |
| 19:07.30 | Kirkburn | (he appears to the same vandal we're getting every night) |
| 19:07.34 | Kirkburn | *to be |
| 19:07.48 | cogwheel | why does "Kirkburn 12:47" look like a bible passage to me? |
| 19:07.53 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 19:07.57 | Kirkburn | hey, I wrote it ;) |
| 19:08.03 | Thrae | God this pre-empetive (raid target) check for aggro code is ugly. Good thing it's not the only aggro option. |
| 19:08.09 | Cairenn | so get an admin to ip ban him, not like it's any big issue to deal with, sheesh :p |
| 19:08.25 | Kirkburn | We have one admin and he's not around all the time :/ |
| 19:08.42 | Cairenn | well, there's your first mistake :p |
| 19:08.46 | Kirkburn | Last time the guy ran rampant for _three_ hours |
| 19:08.59 | Kirov | the one admin who refuses to make others admin? |
| 19:09.18 | Cairenn | and there's your second problem |
| 19:09.23 | MentalPower | lol |
| 19:09.49 | Kirov | Even though, if I understand it correctly, he doesn't play wow anymore, and is rarely online. |
| 19:10.03 | cogwheel | third porblem? |
| 19:10.11 | cogwheel | s/orb/rob/ |
| 19:10.14 | Kirkburn | Fandyllic plays a lot |
| 19:10.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | Dahm no shit WoW Ui Disinger doesnt sepport ScollingFrame... ..Cry |
| 19:10.31 | Kirkburn | He's got four chars in the 50s :P |
| 19:10.38 | Kirov | Kirkburn - that's it? |
| 19:10.46 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:10.48 | Kirov | Kirkburn - my gf has 5 60s |
| 19:11.01 | Kirov | all with mc or bwl gear |
| 19:11.02 | Kirkburn | I was generalising when I said one admin ... one _active_ admin :) |
| 19:11.05 | cogwheel | I have 2 60s as of last friday |
| 19:11.39 | Kirov | someone needs to make Cairenn a wowwiki admin |
| 19:11.40 | Kirkburn | What excitement, he's playing with my user pages now |
| 19:11.51 | Kirov | because she doesn't have enough to do yet, and she never sleeps |
| 19:11.55 | Cairenn | Kirov: fuck no |
| 19:11.56 | Kirkburn | I am seriously pushing for more admins, this is getting silly |
| 19:12.36 | Kirov | What scares me is this guy is able to find stuff on the wiki better than I can |
| 19:12.58 | Cairenn | phyber: when uploading new plugins for FuBar, don't upload them to the category directly |
| 19:13.05 | Cairenn | go to fubar itself and use "upload addon" |
| 19:13.08 | Kanzie | ok...didnt help me uot there...it does not report anything |
| 19:13.14 | Kanzie | http://wowi.pastey.net/462 |
| 19:13.27 | *** join/#wowi-lounge gnorlish (n=jaydee@70-38-2-202.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 19:13.29 | Kirov | Kanzie - did you check FrameXML.log yet? |
| 19:13.30 | Kanzie | But with the sendchatmessage replaced with: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Trapped unitIsunit() AND unitIsDead()","SAY"); |
| 19:14.08 | Kirov | Kanzie - no "Say" |
| 19:14.20 | Kirov | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Trapped unitIsunit() AND unitIsDead()"); |
| 19:14.54 | Rallion | shouldn't make a difference, though |
| 19:14.59 | Kirov | true |
| 19:15.12 | JoshBorke | can you say before PEW? |
| 19:15.49 | Kirov | JoshBorke - the chatframe can get messages before PEW, no? |
| 19:16.15 | JoshBorke | there's a difference between AddMessage and SendChatMessage, no? |
| 19:16.34 | MentalPower | yes |
| 19:16.41 | MentalPower | AddMEssage is completely internal |
| 19:16.54 | JoshBorke | so I'm just saying, can you 'say' something before you've entered the world? |
| 19:16.54 | MentalPower | SendChatMessage has to communicate with the server |
| 19:17.19 | MentalPower | possibly, haven't tested that |
| 19:17.24 | phyber | Cairenn: ok. |
| 19:17.31 | Kanzie | Just give me the proper way to signal, IM ALIVE...it is for debugging purpose |
| 19:17.58 | Cairenn | phyber: thanks for the updated moneyfu :) |
| 19:18.11 | MentalPower | ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Hello World!") |
| 19:18.15 | ckknight | hooray for phyber, for lightening my load |
| 19:18.27 | Rallion | I'm looking at the BC spells and stuff now, and some of this is really good |
| 19:18.30 | MentalPower | or DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Hello World!") |
| 19:18.32 | Thrae | Kanzie: PLAYER_ALIVE and PLAYER_UNGHOST are the two events called when the player is dead then alive. |
| 19:19.10 | Kanzie | yes...not what Im checking for though |
| 19:19.23 | JoshBorke | Kanzie:http://wowi.pastey.net/465 |
| 19:19.26 | JoshBorke | see if that works |
| 19:19.27 | Kanzie | first I need it to just load properly, then check if MOB dies when player attacks |
| 19:19.34 | Kanzie | if so, then fire event |
| 19:20.20 | Kirov | Kanzie - you want to find out if the mob you're targeting died? |
| 19:20.30 | phyber | Cairenn: np :) |
| 19:20.35 | phyber | and ckknight too. |
| 19:21.20 | *** join/#wowi-lounge kelvie (n=Kelvie@d154-20-180-12.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 19:21.43 | Kanzie | Kirov: Eventually yes, roight now, just load my mod! |
| 19:23.02 | Kirov | Kanzie - just so you know, it's actually not possible for the script to know if the particular mob you were targeting was the one that died. |
| 19:23.10 | Kirov | Unless you killed it. |
| 19:23.22 | Kirov | And even then |
| 19:23.38 | Kirov | You can "guess", but never know for sure |
| 19:24.10 | Kanzie | ok... but that is good enough... I want to fire an emote when I kill a MOB |
| 19:24.46 | Kirov | Kanzie - did you try the version JoshBorke posted? |
| 19:25.01 | Kanzie | http://wowi.pastey.net/465-41pu <- this one? |
| 19:25.11 | Kanzie | yep... no difference...nothing happenes |
| 19:27.26 | Rallion | you sure you're looking at the right chat window? |
| 19:27.32 | Rallion | and do you have any other addons installed? |
| 19:27.39 | Kanzie | Yes... plenty |
| 19:27.49 | Rallion | try disabling them |
| 19:27.56 | Kirov | http://wowi.pastey.net/466 - try that |
| 19:28.21 | Rallion | i thought my addon was broken when I didn't see the startup messages, because I had StopTheSpam enabled |
| 19:28.38 | jaxdahl | here's an idea for an addon. when i die, i'd like to see how much HP (and/or armor?) i would've needed to have in order to survive remaining ticks on debuffs and/or the killing blow that killed me |
| 19:29.59 | Kanzie | tried it |
| 19:30.10 | Kanzie | I basically repasted the code in my lua-file, the did reloadui |
| 19:30.20 | Kanzie | and all mods check in, but not this one |
| 19:30.59 | Kanzie | I have Scrolling Combat Text, but I hardly think that has anything to do with it... |
| 19:31.08 | Kanzie | Im gonna copy code from a working mod and see if it works |
| 19:33.56 | Kanzie | meh...something fishy is wrong here... |
| 19:33.57 | Kanzie | =) |
| 19:34.23 | TS|Skrom | if you are like me, you forgot to save your lua in between reloads |
| 19:34.46 | Kanzie | Think we have it here... |
| 19:34.47 | Kanzie | 8/28 21:33:05.265 Loading add-on taunt |
| 19:34.47 | Kanzie | 8/28 21:33:05.265 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\taunt\taunt.toc |
| 19:34.47 | Kanzie | 8/28 21:33:05.265 Couldn't parse XML in Interface\AddOns\taunt\taunt.xml |
| 19:38.13 | Qzot | Hrmm. |
| 19:38.59 | Qzot | Is there a way to access the old fora? |
| 19:39.31 | cogwheel | End posted the ip address the other day... i don't remember though. |
| 19:40.28 | Qzot | From the "Has-it-been-done?" dept: Is there an existing POI addon? |
| 19:40.45 | jaxdahl | http://12.129.217.203 |
| 19:40.49 | jaxdahl | ^^ old forums |
| 19:41.08 | Qzot | Thanks. |
| 19:43.13 | Kanzie | its all good now |
| 19:43.19 | Kanzie | a </frame> was missing |
| 19:44.57 | Qzot | Anyone know of a point-of-interest addon, that alerts you to (*cough*) points of interest when you get close to them? |
| 19:45.32 | TS|Skrom | ZOMG YOU ARE NEAR THE FARM! |
| 19:45.35 | TS|Skrom | stuff like that? |
| 19:46.02 | Qzot | "You are near a hilltop dedicated to a Blizzard artist who died during the game's creation." |
| 19:47.20 | Qzot | "You are near a hidden vendor, the only one to sell the pattern for Herbalist Gloves." etc. |
| 19:47.45 | cogwheel | that would be an incredibly massive undertaking |
| 19:47.57 | TS|Skrom | and pretty dang cool |
| 19:48.17 | Qzot | I'm rather assuming you'd start small, credit people who make suggestions, and grow it bigger and bigger over time. |
| 19:49.07 | Qzot | Credit people who make suggestions = motivate people to grow the DB. :P |
| 19:53.57 | *** join/#wowi-lounge grumpey (n=Miranda@dialup-4.152.210.57.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 19:54.43 | grumpey | eya |
| 19:57.04 | TS|Skrom | Priest question for those in the know. |
| 19:57.08 | Corrodias | so i had this dream that the expansion was just around the corner |
| 19:57.21 | TS|Skrom | When you are shielded your inner fire charges do not get used (confirmed seconds ago by myself) |
| 19:57.31 | JoshBorke | correct |
| 19:57.34 | TS|Skrom | Question: Does the inner fire armor count toward how much you didn't get hit for? |
| 19:57.36 | MentalPower | yup |
| 19:57.49 | TS|Skrom | even though the charges don't get used? |
| 19:57.56 | MentalPower | I believe so |
| 19:57.58 | MentalPower | yes |
| 19:57.58 | TS|Skrom | neat |
| 19:58.07 | Kanzie | ok... so how do I trap the event of me killing a mob? |
| 19:58.10 | Corrodias | i guess i have absolutely no idea what inner fire is |
| 19:58.20 | TS|Skrom | adds armor |
| 19:58.28 | TS|Skrom | but has 20 charges, every time you get hit charges go down by 1 |
| 19:58.34 | Kanzie | Can I do I check that "player("target").health == 0"; or something |
| 19:58.35 | TS|Skrom | when hits 0, buff dispels itself |
| 19:58.40 | Corrodias | you say charges do not get used when you are shielded. if you're getting hit, that's incorrect. |
| 19:59.00 | Corrodias | i don't see how something can count for what you did -not- get hit for, whatever that is supposed to mean |
| 19:59.01 | TS|Skrom | well I'm not technically getting hit since it's being absorbed |
| 19:59.11 | TS|Skrom | well here's what I'm wondering.... |
| 19:59.17 | Corrodias | absorbed? |
| 19:59.22 | TS|Skrom | without innerfire I get hit for 8 each hit. with.. I get hit for 6 |
| 19:59.26 | Corrodias | oh, shielded! i get it |
| 19:59.43 | TS|Skrom | if I have inner fire up and get shielded (power word shield) is each hit taking 6 off of my absorb or 8? |
| 19:59.49 | Corrodias | i see |
| 19:59.56 | Kaso | 6 |
| 20:00.04 | TS|Skrom | if it's taking 6... then shouldning my charges be going away? |
| 20:00.06 | Corrodias | man, do i feel stupid for that one |
| 20:00.16 | TS|Skrom | I'm getting the benefit without the drawbacks lol |
| 20:00.36 | Kirkburn | So, er, yeah ... some kids just decided to pull down the wall in the garages next door to us |
| 20:00.38 | TS|Skrom | kinda cool though, good way to increase the benefit of inner fire |
| 20:00.38 | Kaso | blizzard said that it should be working like that so its good good |
| 20:01.02 | Kirkburn | And I've just been looking at the damage with the local police |
| 20:01.27 | TS|Skrom | heh so I found out today that my ex wife is back to playing Wow again |
| 20:01.36 | Corrodias | gank her |
| 20:01.46 | JoshBorke | lol, thought the same thing |
| 20:01.55 | TS|Skrom | I have a character on the server she plays on, thinking about sending her all my gold from the toon with this note attached: here’s your gold, this should be familiar, you took so much else from me – matt |
| 20:01.59 | zenzelezz | she took half your gold and equipment? |
| 20:02.06 | Kirkburn | For some odd reason the vandals decided to leave a pushchair there, so the police are gonna look at it for fingerprints. Such excitement :P |
| 20:02.23 | TS|Skrom | and then deleteing that character and making a horde to gank the shit out of her |
| 20:02.33 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 20:02.35 | TS|Skrom | she is freaking asstastic at wow |
| 20:02.53 | Corrodias | TS|Skrom: i'd rather send her a CoD for that amount with the same note, just in case she goes for it |
| 20:02.54 | TS|Skrom | it would be like beating a mute, blind quadra |
| 20:02.58 | TS|Skrom | hahaha |
| 20:03.12 | TS|Skrom | can you send cod on purely coin based mails? |
| 20:03.19 | Corrodias | i doubt it |
| 20:03.20 | Kanzie | Is it the right way to go about it to trap event UNIT_HEALTH and then check if unit is mob and if healt == 0 or UNIT_DEAD then if true call a function to perform what I want to do!? |
| 20:04.23 | TS|Skrom | parse combat for "such and such dies" and then watch for an xp gain event |
| 20:04.30 | Corrodias | the proper way is to check the health of every frickin' unit that you can detect in every frame. YEAH |
| 20:04.31 | TS|Skrom | if you get both, then the party just killed somethign |
| 20:04.52 | Corrodias | TS|Skrom: do gray enemies give xp? |
| 20:04.59 | TS|Skrom | good point |
| 20:05.12 | Kanzie | Is there any better way to see if the player just killed a mob? |
| 20:05.27 | TS|Skrom | what are you trying to do overall kanzie? |
| 20:05.49 | TS|Skrom | my boss needs to go home so I can play my priest |
| 20:05.51 | Corrodias | blizzard doesn't give us much of any tools that let addons do things that some superhuman working at the speed of infinity couldn't do for himself with the default client. |
| 20:06.03 | Kanzie | When I kill a mob I want my toon to yell something |
| 20:06.27 | Corrodias | he should throw a pie in someone's face and then have an anvil fall on his head. that'll make the kiddies titter. |
| 20:06.41 | TS|Skrom | hehehehe you said tit |
| 20:06.48 | TS|Skrom | >.> |
| 20:06.52 | TS|Skrom | sorry :( |
| 20:07.08 | Kanzie | seriously |
| 20:07.11 | Corrodias | pedo |
| 20:07.20 | Kanzie | must be possible to code |
| 20:08.08 | Corrodias | think about it: how do -you- know when you kill an enemy? then there's probably a very similar way to do it in lua. |
| 20:08.39 | Corrodias | just because the one you're targetting falls over? not necessarily. someone else may have landed the killing blow, or you may be casting an AoE. |
| 20:08.56 | zenzelezz | woot... lag spike wipes us at Flamegor, person with soulstone LDs, so rogues+druids stealth back... druid dies on the way, and the rogue finally resurrects a priest with the jumper cables \o/ |
| 20:09.44 | Corrodias | and then it may be practically impossible to separate different creatures with the same name. i see a lot of obstacles for this addon of yours. |
| 20:10.21 | Kanzie | ok..but in the first incarnation of this mod I really dont care about details...if it dies in battle near me, it is ok to trigger my functino |
| 20:10.33 | zenzelezz | there's a chat message that says when you deal a killing blow |
| 20:10.54 | Kanzie | maybe I should trap that then...? Clever |
| 20:11.30 | Kanzie | if X "is slayen by " .. player <- Like this? |
| 20:11.31 | TS|Skrom | You have slain %t |
| 20:11.54 | TS|Skrom | I just killed a bat on my priest and that's what came up |
| 20:12.13 | TS|Skrom | there's no A an or the unless that was a part of the mob name |
| 20:12.27 | TS|Skrom | in my case it was You have slain Greater Duskbat! |
| 20:12.27 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Combat -- "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH" |
| 20:12.29 | Kanzie | so I can scan for that statement... (and probably variations of it but still) |
| 20:12.46 | Corrodias | there we go |
| 20:13.14 | Kanzie | SWEEET |
| 20:13.52 | TS|Skrom | Kanzie, you owe zenzelezz some pie |
| 20:15.05 | Kanzie | NP |
| 20:17.21 | Cairenn | phyber: TopScoreFu is yours now |
| 20:19.41 | Kanzie | Anywhere I can read up on how to trap a statement like that and work with it? |
| 20:21.22 | TS|Skrom | register your frame for that event then do an onEvent |
| 20:21.30 | TS|Skrom | check the wowwiki on "how to make an addon" |
| 20:24.03 | phyber | Cairenn: thanks :) |
| 20:24.22 | TS|Skrom | hehe boss walked up while I was turning in a quest |
| 20:24.34 | TS|Skrom | glad I have the laptop facing away from the aisle |
| 20:25.16 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29 -- Kanzie , here's what you were looking for I think |
| 20:30.01 | Kanzie | What should I look for in event... I do this:REGISTER for CHAT... in onEvent() I have: if ( event == "" ) then |
| 20:30.49 | Kanzie | Do I check for the actual chat-text or do I check if it is set, or just what I registred in onLoad? |
| 20:30.56 | TS|Skrom | well... since you want to watch for the CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH |
| 20:31.13 | TS|Skrom | you... this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH"); |
| 20:31.25 | TS|Skrom | then OnEvent -- myFunction |
| 20:33.15 | TS|Skrom | from the description of that event I believe you are looking for that event to return "You have slain XX" |
| 20:33.24 | TS|Skrom | do what you want from there |
| 20:34.21 | MentalPower | you might want to verify the arg1 and arg2 of that event |
| 20:34.59 | MentalPower | it may have changed to use string.format |
| 20:35.00 | Kirkburn | Hmm, new character time again ;P |
| 20:35.38 | TS|Skrom | always |
| 20:39.29 | Kanzie | Well...thats the thing... in OnEvent, I have to trigger on the return argument right? |
| 20:43.25 | Kanzie | hmmm |
| 20:43.39 | Kanzie | how do I set a target for my whisper, or a party-say |
| 20:43.48 | Kanzie | SendChatMessage(event, "WHISPER"); |
| 20:43.49 | TS|Skrom | OnEvent just means "when an event I am registered for fires do this" |
| 20:44.13 | Kanzie | so basically I just in OnEvent, if that is the only event register |
| 20:44.16 | Kanzie | I launch the code |
| 20:44.22 | TS|Skrom | so put <OnEvent>MyFunction</OnEvent" |
| 20:44.37 | TS|Skrom | if you have more then one event you are listening for then make MyFunction an event handler |
| 20:44.46 | TS|Skrom | if event == event1 do this, else do this |
| 20:44.56 | Kanzie | ok |
| 20:45.34 | Kanzie | so how do I do a SendChatMessage(event, "SAY"); to only a channel? |
| 20:45.35 | TS|Skrom | in your case if you are only listening for one event you can make MyFunction the meat and potatoes of your addon and just call directly every time that event fires |
| 20:46.41 | TS|Skrom | SendChatMessage("message","channel") |
| 20:47.09 | Kanzie | "channel" can be "party" ? |
| 20:47.16 | TS|Skrom | yep |
| 20:47.18 | TS|Skrom | or SAY |
| 20:47.25 | Kanzie | SAY makes a global say... |
| 20:47.38 | TS|Skrom | SendChatMessage("I AM VICTORIOUS","SAY") will put it in local right around you |
| 20:47.41 | Kanzie | And this method seems to trigger on every kill the party makes, not just the individual player |
| 20:48.05 | jaxdahl | has anyone ever thought about making an interface emulator? |
| 20:48.51 | Kanzie | yes...but they will kill me min the towns if I keep spitting out debug-text, so I was hoping for a way to only pester the party Im in |
| 20:49.08 | TS|Skrom | "PARTY" |
| 20:49.10 | jaxdahl | well, you should be able to echo to your console |
| 20:49.44 | jaxdahl | so the only person you bother is yourself |
| 20:49.45 | TS|Skrom | yeah, instead of SendChatMessage("message") do DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("message") until you get the kinks out |
| 20:50.49 | Kirov | Kanzie - to find out if you killed it you need to parse the message that comes with the death event. |
| 20:51.18 | Kirov | There's a death event that says a mob died, and just before it a death event saying who killed it if it was someone in your group or yourself |
| 20:52.05 | Kanzie | Kirov: Is that not the one Im using: this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH"); |
| 20:52.13 | Kanzie | It seems to trigger in doubles if I use a pet |
| 20:54.40 | Kirov | Kanzie - what's the arg1? |
| 20:55.03 | Kanzie | checking now actually =) |
| 20:55.51 | Kanzie | is it event(arg1) or arg1? |
| 20:56.01 | Kirov | arg1 by itself |
| 20:56.17 | Beladona | ok, wasn't there an IsChecked function for check boxes? or maybe I forgot what the function is supposed to be |
| 20:56.31 | JoshBorke | Beladona, yes there is |
| 20:56.42 | Kanzie | Ah... it seems to trigger twice... first for You have slain... and then for MOB dies |
| 20:56.49 | Kanzie | Ill just filter there then =) |
| 20:56.55 | Kanzie | SWEEET! Almost there |
| 20:57.18 | JoshBorke | GetChecked |
| 20:57.32 | jaxdahl | it's not very easy to mirror the talent/skills pages |
| 20:57.43 | Kirov | Kanzie - do you have the UI source files someplace? |
| 20:57.50 | JoshBorke | Beladona: GetChecked() returns 1 if the button is checked |
| 20:57.57 | Kirov | nil otherwise |
| 20:58.05 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 20:58.41 | Kirov | Kanzie - http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ exceptional useful site |
| 20:58.49 | Kirov | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua - specifically |
| 20:59.35 | Kirov | look for SELFKILLOTHER |
| 20:59.46 | Kirov | that's the string that gets shown when you kill something |
| 21:01.24 | Kirov | local slaintext = "^"..string.gsub(SELFKILLOTHER, "%%s", ".+").."$"; |
| 21:01.24 | Kirov | if ( string.find(arg1, slaintext) ) then |
| 21:01.24 | Kirov | -- You killed something |
| 21:01.33 | Kanzie | and SELFKILLOTHER is a constant that I can trap how? |
| 21:01.51 | Kirov | SELFKILLOTHER is a localized string |
| 21:02.09 | Kirov | for use in a string.format() function |
| 21:02.54 | Kirov | local slaintext = ... stuff converts that string in to a string pattern for using a string.find() function |
| 21:03.21 | Kanzie | SWEET! This is good |
| 21:03.49 | Kirov | If you want to get the name of the mob change ".+" to "(.+)" |
| 21:04.18 | Thrae | Kanzie: Deformat will convert the pattern to a string.find pattern and return the results of the string.find. Look for the library on wowinterface. |
| 21:04.55 | Beladona | okies, heading out, be back later |
| 21:05.00 | JoshBorke | bye bela |
| 21:05.19 | Kirov | Thrae - maybe I'm weird, but I prefer not using libs until I understand what they're doing |
| 21:05.27 | Kanzie | How do I isolate and store the name of the mob you mean? |
| 21:05.28 | Corrodias | you're weird. |
| 21:05.50 | Kirov | good to nkow |
| 21:06.26 | Corrodias | i don't mind if you are redundant with your code. just try not to be inefficient with your A) rate of memory usage increase and B) the processing, so it's fast and doesn't cause a lot of GC |
| 21:07.00 | Corrodias | base memory usage doesn't really concern me, unless you get ridiculous with it (over 100mb) |
| 21:07.35 | Kirov | Kanzie - http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strfind |
| 21:07.41 | Thrae | Kirov: If he's using the global string, then he's better off using Deformat. Using a gsub to convert string.format to string.find patterns isn't easy, and Deformat is also locale-free. |
| 21:08.53 | Thrae | I offered an easier alternative for someone who just wants to make an addon rather then understand every detail in Lua about their code. |
| 21:09.02 | Kirov | Thrae - if he's doing it for a single global string, which has a single string var ... who cares? |
| 21:09.27 | Kanzie | But I want to understand...Kirovs example is brilliant, yours was really good too! It works now, but I really want the mob-name as well... that was a great idea |
| 21:10.24 | Kirov | Kanzie - local start,end,mobname = string.find("some text vs Evil Badguy!", "^some text vs (.+)!$") |
| 21:11.07 | Kirov | Kanzie - Anything between the ()'s are a part of the string you want the function to return |
| 21:11.13 | Kanzie | yeah... the regexp is more generic and nicer, though harder to read |
| 21:11.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | <cogwheel> too bad Mr_Rabies isn't here.... |
| 21:11.52 | Kirov | "." by itself is any character, ".+" means as many of any character as possible. |
| 21:11.59 | cogwheel | :) |
| 21:12.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if you're actually here or not cog, but if so, what do you need? |
| 21:12.19 | cogwheel | We just had some mind reading going on earlier today :P |
| 21:12.20 | Kirov | Mr_Rabies2 - but Mr_Rabies isn't here, you're his evil twin! |
| 21:12.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | DUN DUN DUNNNNN |
| 21:13.02 | Mr_Rabies | I'm the real Mr_Rabies, shoot him! |
| 21:13.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | No, I'm the real Mr_Rabies, shoot him! |
| 21:13.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | I've seen too many movies :[ |
| 21:13.33 | zenzelezz | this one's easy |
| 21:13.36 | cogwheel | Will the real Mr_Rabies please stand up? |
| 21:13.45 | Mr_Rabies | it also makes me feel schizophrenic |
| 21:13.54 | Kirov | No you're not |
| 21:13.57 | Kirov | Yes you are! |
| 21:13.59 | Kirov | Am not |
| 21:14.01 | Kirov | Am too! |
| 21:14.44 | Kanzie | hmmm... |
| 21:14.53 | Kanzie | need some more ass. with the mobname |
| 21:15.10 | Corrodias | so it seems to me that it's going to take weeks of constant pvp fighting to gain a rank over 5 |
| 21:15.27 | Kirov | Kanzie - what's the problem you'r ehaving? |
| 21:15.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corridas |
| 21:15.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on your server |
| 21:15.37 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.39 | TS|Skrom | that's a problem |
| 21:15.55 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - if it's a succubus, it'd at least be fun for a bit |
| 21:16.05 | TS|Skrom | ./drool |
| 21:16.11 | Kanzie | hold on...trying a bit on my own first, before annoying you |
| 21:17.16 | Corrodias | Mr_Rabies2: don't give me that. :) |
| 21:17.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | what server/ruleset are you on? |
| 21:17.37 | Corrodias | on most realms i assume it will all match up within a few weeks difference |
| 21:17.52 | Corrodias | Eldre'Thalas, Normal, BG group 1 |
| 21:18.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | Normal won't take nearly as much pvp to get rank in most cases |
| 21:18.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | just pvp as much as you enjoy it and don't worry about rank |
| 21:18.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | that will fly until about rank 6 or 7 or so then you've gotta play a bit out of the comfort zone |
| 21:19.21 | Corrodias | frostmane is a pvp realm in our group with a particular bunch of alliance players with pvp epics who like to enter 50-59 WSG as a group |
| 21:19.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | and once you hit 10 it turns more into a grind, and 13 and 14, well... let's not go there :P |
| 21:19.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | however |
| 21:19.28 | Corrodias | rather discouraging |
| 21:19.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | your rank is only server-side |
| 21:19.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | not group-wise |
| 21:19.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | so if no one else from your server pvps you can rank really fast |
| 21:19.57 | Corrodias | http://ziza.ru/other/082006/14/pics/pics_26_ziza.jpg |
| 21:20.12 | JoshBorke | oh dear |
| 21:20.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | is uh |
| 21:20.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that a female |
| 21:20.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | [Giggity Giggity] |
| 21:21.37 | Kanzie | ok... help me out here =) I want to extract the mobname as well.. how do I need to write the regexp to include that? |
| 21:21.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | either that or a really skinny nerd |
| 21:21.56 | JoshBorke | or both! |
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| 21:23.01 | Kanzie | how do I get the value of %s in SELFKILLOTHER |
| 21:23.46 | Kirov | Kanzie - "%s" is replaced by a string (the name of the mob) when it's displayed |
| 21:24.07 | Kirov | Kanzie - read up about how to make string.find return a value |
| 21:24.27 | Kanzie | ok |
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| 21:53.28 | Kirov | "Did you extract it in to your wow/interface/addons folder?" |
| 21:53.35 | Kirov | "I put it on my desktop, that doesn't work?" |
| 21:53.56 | Hexarobi | the mac users i know tend to know alot more about their computers than windows users |
| 21:54.08 | Kirov | Hexarobi - you're lucky then |
| 21:54.25 | JoshBorke | morning cladhaire |
| 21:54.26 | Kirov | I had one guy trying to figure out how to open .tga files because he figured since he couldn't open them, wow couldn't either |
| 21:54.34 | Kirov | and that's why his mod wasn't working |
| 21:54.41 | Hexarobi | hehe |
| 21:55.00 | Kirov | For some reason he'd extracted _just_ the .tga files to his desktop |
| 21:55.13 | Kirov | the .zip he'd put in the addons folder |
| 21:55.33 | cladhaire | ugt JoshBorke! |
| 21:55.49 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: back from vacation? |
| 21:55.56 | cladhaire | if you can call it that |
| 21:56.00 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 21:56.03 | cladhaire | i dont consider weekends away vacation really =) |
| 21:56.09 | cladhaire | but I had a great time, and yes i'm back now. |
| 21:56.17 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Lol @ topic =) |
| 21:56.25 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:56.35 | cladhaire | he linked it on the guild forums if you'd like a link |
| 21:56.55 | cladhaire | listened to it a few times today while at work.. made me smile =) |
| 21:58.00 | Cairenn | he gave me the link already :) |
| 21:58.23 | Cairenn | I've handed it out in here already, as well as sent it to my household mailing list |
| 21:59.08 | Hexarobi | ur house has a mailing list? |
| 21:59.22 | JoshBorke | you mean your's doesn't? o.O |
| 21:59.43 | Cairenn | Society for Creative Anachronism :p |
| 22:00.09 | Cairenn | medieval recreation society |
| 22:00.34 | Kanzie | Is there anything special with the command that generates the chat-bubble above the head? |
| 22:00.56 | JoshBorke | talking |
| 22:00.59 | Kirov | Kanzie - special? |
| 22:01.17 | Kanzie | SendChatMessage("Hello World", "PARTY"); is correct right? |
| 22:01.40 | Kirov | Kanzie - for sending a message to the party? yes |
| 22:03.18 | Kanzie | Can I in the OnLoad define an array with words and then in the onEvent randomize a pointer to the array? |
| 22:03.33 | Kanzie | (shouldnt be a problem right?) |
| 22:03.35 | Mikk | yes |
| 22:04.01 | Mikk | just give it a nice unique global name like YourAddOnName_MyArray |
| 22:04.35 | JoshBorke | (Or put it into a table ;-)) |
| 22:04.36 | Hexarobi | you can define the scope as local inside your addons lua file, but outside of any function |
| 22:05.51 | Kanzie | table? |
| 22:06.24 | Kirov | Kanzie - Lua's "arrays" are "tables" |
| 22:06.34 | Kanzie | How do I make a global array like $myArray = ["eenie","miney","three"] |
| 22:06.40 | Kanzie | oh... |
| 22:06.51 | Hexarobi | by default, any variable name used becomes global |
| 22:06.53 | Kirov | Kanzie - they can be either an array or a hash table |
| 22:07.05 | Hexarobi | if you put the word local infront of it, then it defines its scope |
| 22:07.15 | Kanzie | this is supposed to be three arrays, each filled with words |
| 22:07.23 | Hexarobi | so if you do local myTable = { "blah", "blah", "blah" }; |
| 22:07.23 | Kirov | Kanzie - myArray = {"eenie", "miney", "three" }; |
| 22:07.35 | Hexarobi | inside of a function, it will only work for that execution of that function |
| 22:07.57 | Hexarobi | if you do local mytTable = etc.. at the very top of you lua file, it will be local to your addon |
| 22:08.00 | Kanzie | yes... but If I want to call it from the onEvent then it cant be local can it? I dont want to declare the array on each trigered event since the content is static |
| 22:08.13 | Hexarobi | you prolly want it local to your addon |
| 22:08.27 | Hexarobi | so you can name it something like wordTable and not worry about conflicting with other addons |
| 22:08.42 | Hexarobi | if you make it global you need to name it myAddon_wordTable |
| 22:08.52 | Kanzie | ok |
| 22:08.55 | Kanzie | local then =) |
| 22:09.26 | Kanzie | and I call with |
| 22:09.27 | Kanzie | ? |
| 22:09.48 | Kanzie | wordTable{i}; ? |
| 22:10.05 | Kirkburn | Hmm, how can I get my level 42 to 60 is super quick time ... |
| 22:10.20 | Tain | ige.com |
| 22:10.25 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:10.41 | Kirkburn | I mean, what's the best areas :P |
| 22:10.46 | Tain | oooh |
| 22:11.06 | Hexarobi | wordTable[1] |
| 22:11.13 | Hexarobi | and in Lua, table index's start with 1, not 0 |
| 22:11.38 | Hexarobi | but thats if you use the table like an array, you can also use strings as indexs instead of numbers |
| 22:11.53 | Hexarobi | so you can have wordTable["color"] = "red"; |
| 22:12.17 | Kanzie | great |
| 22:12.30 | Kanzie | how do I randomize |
| 22:12.32 | Kanzie | ? |
| 22:13.13 | Kirov | wordTable[math.random(1,getn(wordTable))] |
| 22:13.42 | Hexarobi | ooo getn returns length? i never knew that |
| 22:14.16 | Kirov | Hexarobi - only for consecutive integer based tables |
| 22:14.30 | Hexarobi | ah, not hashes? |
| 22:14.34 | Kirov | not hashes |
| 22:14.37 | Hexarobi | lame |
| 22:14.42 | Kirkburn | I have one aim in WoW atm, and that's to get my near-abandoned pally to 60 before the expansion :P |
| 22:14.51 | Kirov | hashes you can do setn(tableName) and getn() will work |
| 22:14.59 | zenzelezz | how come Kirk? |
| 22:15.24 | Kirkburn | Just so I have some choice for playing in Outland :P |
| 22:15.42 | zenzelezz | I don't think I follow your logic |
| 22:15.53 | Kirkburn | I only have one 60, a warlock |
| 22:15.54 | JoshBorke | is your paladin the highest char? |
| 22:15.59 | Hexarobi | new content will be for max-level players |
| 22:16.11 | Kirkburn | She's 42 atm ... since Hellfire Peninsula starts at 55 though, maybe I only need to get her there |
| 22:16.11 | Kanzie | SendChatMessage(tauntList[math.random(1,getn(tauntList))], "YELL"); |
| 22:16.13 | JoshBorke | lies! what about the starter areas? |
| 22:16.23 | Kanzie | mmmm... wont work |
| 22:16.37 | Kirkburn | Oh, I'm starting a third main char for BC, a female draenei warrior =) |
| 22:16.37 | Hexarobi | doesnt sendchatmessage take more args than that? |
| 22:16.37 | zenzelezz | oh, you mean so you have more than one char that can go there? |
| 22:16.38 | Kanzie | can I debug it somehow |
| 22:16.47 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, exactimondo ;) |
| 22:17.04 | Hexarobi | SendChatMessage("cm challengedenied", "WHISPER", nil, challenger); |
| 22:17.14 | Hexarobi | whats the nil? |
| 22:17.17 | Hexarobi | anybody? |
| 22:17.21 | Kirkburn | It will feel very annoying having the expansion, but having to play her through to 55 before I can use it, so I'm doing it now :) |
| 22:17.22 | wereHamster | language |
| 22:17.40 | Kanzie | nope... |
| 22:17.40 | wereHamster | by passing 'nil' (nothing) you tell WoW to use the deault language |
| 22:17.42 | Kanzie | =) |
| 22:17.42 | Hexarobi | man i hate grinding |
| 22:17.56 | Kanzie | I have to randomize and store in a var, then say the var |
| 22:18.07 | Corrodias | it seems i get experience for turning in WSG tokens. therefore, that's a better grinding method, if my team wins a lot. |
| 22:18.16 | Hexarobi | no you shouldnt have to, they should do the same thing either way kanz |
| 22:18.23 | Hexarobi | but it might make it easier to read |
| 22:18.31 | Kirov | Kanzie - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 |
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| 22:26.26 | zespri_work | morning people |
| 22:26.34 | Cairenn | hi zespri |
| 22:26.36 | MentalPower | mornign |
| 22:26.53 | zespri_work | what's up? =) |
| 22:28.07 | JoshBorke | blah! someone learn me iptables :-( |
| 22:28.41 | Cairenn | lalala |
| 22:29.33 | MentalPower | Cair, finish my AddOn for me :P |
| 22:29.42 | Cairenn | something *fun* to do |
| 22:30.03 | Cairenn | something she is *capable* of doing |
| 22:31.13 | zenzelezz | I think I killed a part of our raid today at Vaelastrasz :-o |
| 22:31.39 | JoshBorke | ok, bye all :-) |
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| 22:32.31 | zenzelezz | did what I was told in the warrior channel, but decided to try Recklessness while doing Executes... so when the current MT died, he turned to me :-x Took me a second or two to notice and turn him around |
| 22:32.52 | Kirov | zenzelezz - bad man |
| 22:33.04 | zenzelezz | hey, you have to learn somehow! |
| 22:33.23 | zenzelezz | if I'd just left out Recklessness I wouldn't have had any trouble I think |
| 22:33.51 | zenzelezz | but it was a wipe anyway, the current main tank and the next-to-be decided to stand on top of each other when the tank blew up |
| 22:34.07 | Hexarobi | cair, have been looking for a hand carved chess set, do you have any experience whitlin'? |
| 22:35.12 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.17 | Cide | it's more fun to wipe the raid... |
| 22:35.25 | Cide | by stepping out into c'thun's line of sight |
| 22:35.27 | Cairenn | buncha comedians ... don't give up your day jobs guys :p |
| 22:36.17 | AnduinLothar | oh nice, they made the tallent changes public |
| 22:36.58 | zenzelezz | talent changes? |
| 22:37.08 | AnduinLothar | blizz home page |
| 22:37.13 | Kaso | no priests! |
| 22:37.25 | Kirov | Cide - you have an odd sense of fun |
| 22:37.46 | Cide | Kirov: gotta take out my frustrations in some way.. I'm a priest! |
| 22:37.56 | Mery | what does it mean when my svn tells me "that .xml file has inconsistant newlines"? |
| 22:38.00 | AnduinLothar | i dont see the leaked 'spritual attunement' on the pally trees |
| 22:38.11 | Cide | Mery: probably mixed "\r\n" and "\n" |
| 22:38.21 | MentalPower | Mery: it means that some lines are \n\r and some are something else \n or \r |
| 22:38.24 | Kaso | Cide: you're number 1 on CTProfiles arent you? |
| 22:38.29 | Cide | that is, "windows style"-newlines and "linux style"-newlines |
| 22:38.32 | Cide | Kaso: yup |
| 22:38.34 | Kirkburn | I've so totally forgotten how to play |
| 22:38.36 | Cide | http://ctprofiles.net/1 |
| 22:38.52 | Mery | hmm easy way to find it? (probably copyed them in from older files...)? |
| 22:38.55 | Shadowed | Smede = TS? |
| 22:38.59 | Cide | yes |
| 22:39.44 | Cide | (lamest names ever...) :) |
| 22:40.16 | Shadowed | oo |
| 22:40.18 | Shadowed | you're on DH |
| 22:40.21 | Shadowed | you need to pvp more |
| 22:41.35 | Cide | I never pvp :) |
| 22:41.40 | Shadowed | :( |
| 22:41.45 | zenzelezz | you have 329 intellect more than my warrior |
| 22:41.47 | Cide | just enough to keep rank 4 |
| 22:42.04 | Cide | zenzelezz: warriors are smart! |
| 22:42.36 | Shadowed | i've seen your guild in WSG though |
| 22:42.38 | AnduinLothar | heh, I was doing that 'just enough to keep rank 4' till this week |
| 22:42.54 | Cide | Shadowed: yeah, some pvp more than others |
| 22:42.55 | AnduinLothar | somehow managed to get 125k honor.. |
| 22:43.09 | Cide | anyway, time for me to go to bed |
| 22:43.12 | Cide | night everyone |
| 22:43.19 | Kirkburn | g'night |
| 22:43.22 | zenzelezz | night |
| 22:45.41 | Cairenn | night Cide |
| 22:51.20 | Mery | night all |
| 22:51.25 | zenzelezz | night |
| 22:51.37 | Kirkburn | g'night |
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| 22:52.54 | Kirkburn | Lol, I've put on the Top ScoreFu, and nearly every hit I make I get "new xxx record!" |
| 22:52.54 | zenzelezz | yay for The Pretender on DVD \o/ |
| 22:54.33 | Kirkburn | Sure it's not actually a CD and pretending? |
| 22:54.59 | zenzelezz | you must not have seen the series |
| 22:55.23 | AnduinLothar | oo where? |
| 22:55.36 | AnduinLothar | The Pretender ended so abruptly.. |
| 22:55.38 | AnduinLothar | :( |
| 22:55.42 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 22:56.04 | zenzelezz | my brother bought all... what was it, four? seasons on DVD recently... think it was from Amazon |
| 22:57.16 | AnduinLothar | score, i love the top /. news article |
| 22:58.00 | zenzelezz | heh, nice |
| 22:58.57 | Kirkburn | God I'm stupid ... I didn't turn my pally's aura on! |
| 22:59.58 | AnduinLothar | owned |
| 23:00.22 | AnduinLothar | should turn itself on, eh? |
| 23:00.30 | Kirkburn | UH-huh! |
| 23:00.32 | AnduinLothar | too bad they dissabled ActionQueue |
| 23:01.26 | Kirkburn | It was just sitting there, inactive :/ 631 armour going to waste! |
| 23:02.22 | AnduinLothar | so now I'm introuble. I have ossi's head, but I just got Jindo's evil eye and I have medalian of steadfast might and ony tooth pendant |
| 23:02.33 | AnduinLothar | so which do I pick.. |
| 23:02.35 | Kirkburn | My paladin is now controlled by a grand total of 4 buttons |
| 23:02.40 | zenzelezz | tough call :-o |
| 23:03.09 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn: what are the two other than bubble and hearthstone? |
| 23:03.34 | AnduinLothar | I also have the blue Jeklik's pendant from zg for mp5 and spell damage.. |
| 23:03.51 | Kirkburn | One does all my seal/judgement stuff, one does the healing, one does the blessing and one does the hammer of justice :P |
| 23:03.57 | Kirkburn | I don't use the bubble much |
| 23:03.59 | AnduinLothar | if the ossi neck had mp5 and spell damage i would so go for it.. but it's split |
| 23:04.40 | Kirkburn | Coooool ... I just got a golden pearl :D |
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| 23:05.09 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 23:05.17 | AnduinLothar | Steadfast Might is almost flat out better than the ossi one. cept the ossi one has 10 more stam |
| 23:06.12 | AnduinLothar | the spell damage and stats might be useful for my magadin pvp set.. |
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| 23:12.12 | Rallion | kirkburn, what about hammer of wrath? I love hammer of wrath. |
| 23:13.39 | Kirkburn | I'm level 42 ... when do you get that? |
| 23:13.45 | Rallion | soon I think |
| 23:13.51 | Rallion | 44 maybe |
| 23:13.51 | Kirkburn | Cool |
| 23:14.42 | Kirkburn | What is it exactly? |
| 23:15.12 | Rallion | I remember the first time I got a golden pearl. killed two nagas, got two clams, opened the first one, black pearl. second one, golden pearl. killed another, got another clam, got another golden pearl. and now, maybe thousands of naga kills later, i haven't seen another. |
| 23:15.20 | Rallion | it's like a weaker version of execute |
| 23:15.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | ranged. |
| 23:15.34 | Rallion | usable on targets below 20% health, ranged instant nuke |
| 23:15.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy damage |
| 23:15.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not instant |
| 23:15.46 | Rallion | oh |
| 23:15.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1.5 sec i think |
| 23:15.52 | Kirkburn | wow, you lucky bastard, so many pearls :( |
| 23:15.55 | Rallion | that seems long |
| 23:16.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?sp=24239 |
| 23:16.13 | Rallion | you win |
| 23:16.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1 sec |
| 23:16.17 | Kirkburn | Level? |
| 23:16.35 | Rallion | 1 sec almost might as well be instant for anything but a healing spell |
| 23:16.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | 44 |
| 23:16.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?sp=24275 |
| 23:16.47 | Cairenn | tedium: wrapping a skein of wool into a ball. tedium +: wrapping a skein of wook into a ball with two cats "assisting" |
| 23:16.58 | Rallion | well I was right about the level |
| 23:17.00 | Rallion | hehe |
| 23:17.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | crits for double |
| 23:17.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | like melee damage |
| 23:17.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's holy damage |
| 23:17.25 | Kirkburn | aww, but cats need to play 'with' you :) |
| 23:17.27 | Rallion | 500 damage is more than I thought, too |
| 23:17.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's not mitigated or able to increase resistances to |
| 23:17.40 | Kirkburn | Sounds awesome |
| 23:17.50 | Rallion | 500 damage at rank 3, that is |
| 23:17.56 | Kirkburn | Well, it comes under the seal/judgement button fortunately =) |
| 23:18.03 | Rallion | yeah, I guess it does |
| 23:18.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | crits for ~1200 at 60 with no damage gear |
| 23:18.12 | Rallion | 6 second cooldown |
| 23:18.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/2100/gg2er.png/ |
| 23:18.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's self buffed |
| 23:19.05 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, I totally forgot, my paladin's aze is shite |
| 23:19.09 | Kirkburn | *axe |
| 23:19.18 | Rallion | ...axe? ugh |
| 23:19.36 | Kirkburn | I have money to buy something good ... recommend me something :) |
| 23:19.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | at level 42? |
| 23:19.45 | Rallion | I have the crappiest looking two-hander in the game on my 60 pally |
| 23:19.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | do you have a ravager? |
| 23:19.51 | Rallion | phantom blade? |
| 23:20.07 | Kirkburn | I have a Cresent of Forlorn Spirits |
| 23:20.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | what axe do you have, rallion? |
| 23:20.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | or |
| 23:20.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | kirk |
| 23:20.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | rather |
| 23:20.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
| 23:20.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | looking that up |
| 23:20.36 | Rallion | not axe, hammer |
| 23:20.36 | Rallion | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=18717 |
| 23:20.47 | Rallion | you can see a picture of its tininess there |
| 23:20.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | \oy |
| 23:20.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugly |
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| 23:21.01 | Rallion | people are always like, wtf, why don't you have a shield? |
| 23:21.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=3567 |
| 23:21.25 | Kirkburn | In fact, I should respec too |
| 23:21.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got that hammer on my druid, rall |
| 23:21.41 | Rallion | ooh yeah |
| 23:21.44 | Kirkburn | I need all advice I can get :) |
| 23:21.47 | Rallion | that's good stuff |
| 23:21.50 | Rallion | I used to have it :) |
| 23:21.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean the grand crusader one |
| 23:22.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | mograine's might was being suggested to kirk |
| 23:22.11 | Kirkburn | I want an awesome PvE paladin ... what should I do? |
| 23:22.19 | Rallion | um... |
| 23:22.20 | Rallion | heh. |
| 23:22.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | alternatively http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=4578 |
| 23:22.29 | Rallion | in what sense? |
| 23:22.36 | MentalPower | at least you don't want an awesome PvP paladin |
| 23:22.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | you'll probably want 2 sets of gear |
| 23:22.53 | Rallion | if you want to kill mobs efficiently, then kill yourself. if you want to be able to solo elites, just keep being a paladin |
| 23:22.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | one that's pure melee and one that's got some nice int in it too |
| 23:23.36 | Kirkburn | What's a Dwarven Charge like? |
| 23:24.10 | zenzelezz | a normal charge, only shorter |
| 23:24.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh yeah, Kirk |
| 23:24.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a 1 hander |
| 23:24.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://i71.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/INV_Hammer_02.jpg |
| 23:24.47 | Rallion | that's not right. |
| 23:24.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | get that + mograine's might/ravager depending on the kind of fight you are |
| 23:24.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 23:24.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops |
| 23:25.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=7662 |
| 23:25.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | did copy image location |
| 23:25.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | not copy link location :P |
| 23:25.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a one hander, get divine shield, yeah @_@ |
| 23:25.47 | Kirkburn | Nice |
| 23:25.55 | Rallion | I NEVER play my pally anymore |
| 23:25.57 | Rallion | ever |
| 23:26.11 | Rallion | I have a 60 priest, and when I want to play a 60, I go to him |
| 23:26.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i played one to level 6 |
| 23:26.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | got boring fast |
| 23:26.34 | Rallion | as an example of a reason, unlike my Paladin, I can use the Priest to solo SM |
| 23:26.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i realized it was like playing a druid pre 1.8 without plate |
| 23:26.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, with mail, rather |
| 23:26.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, the reason pallies aren't great at |
| 23:27.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | SM is because the other pally npcs |
| 23:27.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | they get mana back so fast they can outheal you |
| 23:27.14 | Rallion | exactly |
| 23:27.34 | Rallion | but my priest does WAY more damage, and has silence |
| 23:27.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can barely manage to do that on my druid |
| 23:27.43 | Rallion | ...and better gear, actually |
| 23:27.49 | Rallion | much better gear |
| 23:27.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | because our only spell interrupt is 8 yards or further away |
| 23:27.57 | Rallion | nothing epic, but my pally is mostly in green |
| 23:28.04 | Rallion | ah |
| 23:28.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that's if you're spec'd in it |
| 23:28.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why priests > druids in most pvp situations, especially shadow |
| 23:28.43 | Rallion | shadow priests are just fun. |
| 23:28.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | and in duels, i don't duel any kind of priest anymore because they 1) know i'm there and 2) i have no way to stop them from healing |
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| 23:29.00 | Rallion | yep |
| 23:29.02 | Rallion | heh |
| 23:29.17 | Rallion | if my priest gets the jump on somebody in PVP, they're just dead |
| 23:29.19 | Kirkburn | Sooo, I should get a mace, htm |
| 23:29.20 | Rallion | dead. |
| 23:29.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | in real pvp if i don't see a priest in shadowform, hes mine generally |
| 23:29.21 | Kirkburn | *hrm |
| 23:29.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | get whatever you want |
| 23:29.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | but hand of righteousness is really freakin nice |
| 23:29.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | look at the damage on it |
| 23:29.48 | Rallion | i tend to prefer maces, but they don't have any inherent advantage |
| 23:29.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | almost as much as ravager and it's a 2 hander |
| 23:29.56 | Kirkburn | For humans they do |
| 23:30.06 | Rallion | true. |
| 23:30.17 | Kirkburn | It is awesome, but I'll have to run instances to get it |
| 23:30.34 | Rallion | just one. |
| 23:30.37 | Rallion | over and over. |
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| 23:30.51 | Rallion | but it's a good instance to do that with, IMO |
| 23:30.54 | Mr_Rabies2|away | whoa |
| 23:30.56 | Mr_Rabies2|away | netsplit |
| 23:30.58 | Mr_Rabies2|away | gogogo |
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| 23:31.09 | Mr_Rabies2|away | SM's a fun instance |
| 23:31.14 | Mr_Rabies2|away | especially with a good group |
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| 23:31.21 | Rallion | i've done it SOOO many times |
| 23:31.28 | Mr_Rabies2|away | <Kirkburn> It is awesome, but I'll have to run instances to get it |
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| 23:31.45 | Mr_Rabies2|away | running instances with semi reliable drops > spending tons of cash on world drops that aren't better by any means |
| 23:32.13 | Rallion | i got a Myrmidion's Signet and gave it to a friend for 2g |
| 23:32.17 | Kirkburn | I know, I know, but they take so long :( |
| 23:32.34 | Rallion | you can get through a wing of SM real quick |
| 23:32.44 | Mr_Rabies2|away | cath takes a while |
| 23:32.50 | Mr_Rabies2|away | but armory is fast |
| 23:32.58 | Rallion | yeah cath can be annoying |
| 23:33.11 | Mr_Rabies2|away | mograine's might and the hand of righteousness drop from cath |
| 23:33.13 | Rallion | because for most of it, he's RIGHT THERE. |
| 23:33.18 | Rallion | right there! |
| 23:33.25 | Rallion | but if you attack him, you'll die. |
| 23:33.32 | Mr_Rabies2|away | and Ravager drops from armory |
| 23:33.38 | Mr_Rabies2|away | yeah |
| 23:33.39 | Kirkburn | Straight answers? We have no straight answers here ... =) |
| 23:34.13 | Mr_Rabies2|away | no such thing as a straight answer when it comes to gear |
| 23:34.19 | Mr_Rabies2|away | cause it's all subjective |
| 23:34.43 | Kirkburn | Still ... aaah |
| 23:34.51 | Kirkburn | What kind of build is good for PvE though? |
| 23:35.05 | Mr_Rabies2|away | lemme take a look |
| 23:35.34 | Mr_Rabies2|away | i haven't played one reliably, but i've been grouped with them and played one enough to know what does what |
| 23:36.56 | Mr_Rabies2|away | do you want to kill stuff faster or live longer? |
| 23:37.12 | Kirkburn | Faster kills |
| 23:37.40 | Kirkburn | I have a reliable healing engine which should help with staying alive |
| 23:38.50 | Kirkburn | Time to check the AH for anything good (and cheao :) |
| 23:38.56 | Kirkburn | *cheap, even |
| 23:40.16 | Warla|school | Hahahaha |
| 23:40.24 | Warla|school | checked out new spells/talents? |
| 23:40.28 | Mr_Rabies2|away | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=qxxzZVhZEf0t0fq |
| 23:40.32 | Warla|school | warlocks will rule WSG supreme |
| 23:40.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | the druid ones that were leaked better be fake |
| 23:40.43 | Warla|school | 3 affliction locks casting that new dot on the flag runner |
| 23:40.49 | Warla|school | and suddenly all priests drop dead ^^ |
| 23:41.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | check that one out kirk |
| 23:41.07 | Warla|school | no more dispelling flag runner ^^ |
| 23:41.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | try em on the ptr |
| 23:41.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | when it comes out |
| 23:41.31 | Kirkburn | Thanks Mr_Rabies :P |
| 23:41.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you're wasting money that doesn't really effect your character |
| 23:41.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | try out as many as you can afford |
| 23:41.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | on the ptr when it comes out |
| 23:42.27 | Kirkburn | Currently I'm mostly in protection, which probably doens't help :/ |
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| 23:47.27 | Kirkburn | Mr_Rabies what about http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5468, 15g buyout? |
| 23:47.46 | Kirkburn | (or Mr_Rabies2?) |
| 23:47.56 | Kirkburn | (one of you anyway) |
| 23:51.34 | Kirkburn | nvm that, I just got http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=5456 for 12g :D |
| 23:53.23 | zenzelezz | nice :) |
| 23:53.46 | Kirkburn | Massive upgrade to what I had before, but it does mean I need to skill up for it |
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