| 00:03.18 | jaxdahl | oh wow, look at this: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/spells-30582-schematic-remote-mail-terminal.html |
| 00:03.37 | Kirkburn | Aesome |
| 00:03.40 | jaxdahl | that could be SO useful |
| 00:03.41 | Kirkburn | or, awesome |
| 00:03.48 | jaxdahl | middle of karazhan.. |
| 00:03.50 | jaxdahl | full of loot |
| 00:03.53 | jaxdahl | need new stuff |
| 00:04.13 | Kirkburn | Hey, yeah, totally didn't think of that |
| 00:04.21 | Kirkburn | And also if you need to clear some space |
| 00:04.36 | jaxdahl | i wonder about this: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/spells-30580-schematic-healing-potion-injector.html |
| 00:04.40 | jaxdahl | there's a mana potion injector |
| 00:04.42 | jaxdahl | as well. |
| 00:04.52 | Kirkburn | A mobile health turret? |
| 00:05.35 | Seracht | ok thanks for your help Mikk |
| 00:08.46 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Mikk (i=bofh@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 00:10.15 | jaxdahl | new ores/bars: fel iron, adamantite, eternium, felsteel, khorium, hardened adamantite |
| 00:12.19 | Kirkburn | Did you really just adamantite? |
| 00:12.25 | Kirkburn | s/just/just say/ |
| 00:12.59 | Kirkburn | I can just hears the cries of Wolverine going up now ... |
| 00:13.59 | zinor | ya |
| 00:14.00 | jaxdahl | yes i said it |
| 00:14.11 | zinor | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/spells-29568-adamantite-cleaver.html |
| 00:14.24 | Kirkburn | I have nothing against it though, it's cool :) |
| 00:14.37 | Thrae | Is there a UnitInRaidOrPet along with UnitInPartyOrPet ? |
| 00:15.06 | wereHamster | should be |
| 00:15.10 | jaxdahl | there's also a bunch of transmutes.. Primal ___ to ___ (air->fire, earth->water, fire->earth, water->air, shadow->water, water->shadow, mana->fire, fire->mana, life->earth, earth->life) |
| 00:15.34 | Thrae | Ah, "UnitPlayerOrPetInParty" and "UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid" |
| 00:17.01 | jaxdahl | just went through all 88 pages.. lots of interesting stuff in there. some stuff related to Medivh |
| 00:19.42 | Thrae | Do UNIT_HEALTH events fire for (unitId .. "target"), IE "party1target", "party2target", "raid21target", etc.? |
| 00:20.29 | Thrae | They shouldn't, since "target" can be appended indefinately |
| 00:24.05 | Iriel | No, they dont |
| 00:24.09 | Iriel | other than "target" itself |
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| 00:26.53 | jaxdahl | i wonder when the ctra2 beta is starting |
| 00:28.30 | Cide | me too |
| 00:30.37 | Corrodias | man, x-perl unitframes are pretty sexy |
| 00:32.30 | jaxdahl | Corrodias, how do they compare to perl classic? |
| 00:34.12 | snurre | aguf uber alles :p |
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| 00:35.16 | Shadowed | either my UPS decided to be screwy, or my ISP didn't like that 500 KB/s TBC download |
| 00:35.20 | Corrodias | x-perl untiframes are a very tweaked version of perl classic |
| 00:35.28 | Shadowed | MentalPower did you ever manage to download it completely? |
| 00:35.29 | Corrodias | i shouldn't say that, no |
| 00:35.39 | Corrodias | they're also based on Perl, which is why they're similar |
| 00:36.11 | MentalPower | 7.5% |
| 00:36.16 | Shadowed | ouch |
| 00:36.27 | Shadowed | Once raid is over and i don't have to worry about being DC'ed i'll finish mine, was at 59% |
| 00:36.29 | snurre | lvl 10 of all available classes now :D |
| 00:36.33 | Corrodias | there's not a whole lot of difference between them that i could see, but i like the feel of x-perl better. |
| 00:37.09 | jaxdahl | oh |
| 00:37.09 | Corrodias | you're downloading the early alpha/beta/something version of the expansion? |
| 00:37.15 | jaxdahl | it looks like it's 2.00 |
| 00:37.18 | jaxdahl | not 1.13 |
| 00:37.26 | jaxdahl | 2.0.0.5610 |
| 00:37.39 | Shadowed | Corrodias: yeah |
| 00:37.49 | Shadowed | it was posted on the blizzard site, it's 1.28 GB big |
| 00:37.58 | snurre | 6gb installed tho :p |
| 00:38.12 | Shadowed | good ol compression :p |
| 00:38.12 | Corrodias | i can't identify specific features... i didn't spend a lot of time with perl classic. i recall perl classic had support for druidbar, and possibly also has an energy ticker to show you when you're going to gain energy. x-perl does both of those. |
| 00:38.31 | Corrodias | i wonder about the druidbar thing, though. it often seems to get stuck. i need to compare to the real druidbar. |
| 00:38.36 | jaxdahl | perl classic has a frame that shows up when you're in combat |
| 00:38.41 | jaxdahl | that shows hp, energy, cp |
| 00:38.44 | jaxdahl | but no energy ticker |
| 00:38.49 | Corrodias | that combat frame could be handy. i don't see anything like that in x-perl. |
| 00:39.04 | Corrodias | i plan to switch out for classic after a few days so i can get a feel for that one, too |
| 00:39.15 | jaxdahl | lemme post a screenshot |
| 00:39.19 | snurre | seriously nerf the size of exodar and silvermoon :( |
| 00:39.20 | Kirkburn | Wow ... http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Zangar_blades.jpg |
| 00:39.20 | Corrodias | i've seen both |
| 00:39.40 | jaxdahl | well, i want to show it anyway |
| 00:39.42 | jaxdahl | shows my overall UI |
| 00:39.43 | Corrodias | Kirkburn: ...what, smurfs? |
| 00:39.56 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 00:40.13 | Kirkburn | I think I can see something hord-ish in the middle |
| 00:40.35 | Kirov | Anyone know of a zCleanMinimap |
| 00:41.13 | Kirkburn | snurre, what's up with exodar and silvermoon? |
| 00:41.38 | snurre | theyre huuuuge |
| 00:41.40 | Kirkburn | The plan area (of silvermoon at least) is smaller than IF |
| 00:41.53 | snurre | can probably fit like 3 ironforges in each |
| 00:42.06 | Kirkburn | According to the PC Gamer preview I saw today |
| 00:42.15 | Kirkburn | How do you know/ |
| 00:42.16 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 00:42.26 | snurre | a little bird |
| 00:42.41 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:45.05 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/pics/chromaggus.png |
| 00:45.19 | Kirkburn | ach png |
| 00:45.36 | jaxdahl | it's only 8 bits |
| 00:45.43 | jaxdahl | png-8 rather |
| 00:45.54 | Kirkburn | not that, but IE doesn't open them in IE |
| 00:45.59 | jaxdahl | ah |
| 00:46.04 | jaxdahl | why use IE :P |
| 00:46.05 | Kirkburn | nvm |
| 00:46.14 | Corrodias | jaxdahl: are those perl classic's raid frames on the right? |
| 00:46.38 | jaxdahl | no |
| 00:46.40 | jaxdahl | PerfectRaid |
| 00:46.40 | Corrodias | i've only been in a raid ONCE, and i didn't get any raid frames then (default UI). i felt pretty gypped. |
| 00:46.42 | jaxdahl | by cladhaier |
| 00:46.51 | jaxdahl | cladhaire |
| 00:46.56 | Kirkburn | That text is huuuge |
| 00:46.58 | jaxdahl | who is in here now and then |
| 00:47.20 | Thrae | PerfectRaid + Squishy is love. |
| 00:47.22 | jaxdahl | Kirkburn, it's 1920x1200 |
| 00:47.25 | jaxdahl | so it's not huge on my screen |
| 00:47.29 | jaxdahl | what's squishy? |
| 00:47.31 | Kirkburn | Who's cladhaire, I've never heard of cladhaire? Some weirdo, no doubt ;) |
| 00:48.05 | Thrae | Squishy shows up to 10 units that require healing, and only those in-range (up to 45 yards). |
| 00:48.16 | Thrae | It can also show who has aggro, and their health deficits. |
| 00:48.18 | jaxdahl | a better emergency monitor? |
| 00:48.36 | Thrae | Exactly, it's a pimped-out Emergency Monitor using Ace2 and fairly optimized. |
| 00:48.49 | jaxdahl | i'll check that out |
| 00:49.41 | jaxdahl | can you recognize all the addons i'm using? |
| 00:49.49 | Thrae | jaxdahl: Squishy hasn't been released yet (don't know why), you can pick it up from http://svn.wowace.com/files |
| 00:50.03 | Kirkburn | At least you have a reasonable name (Jaxine) unlike half of your guild :P |
| 00:50.22 | jaxdahl | a lot of them are alts, Kirkburn |
| 00:50.29 | jaxdahl | and alts tend to have crazy names |
| 00:50.32 | Kirkburn | No excuse :( |
| 00:50.47 | Shadowed | it's an excuse :p |
| 00:50.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae, curious, will TinyTip have an option to display someone's server while in a BG? |
| 00:50.52 | Kirkburn | Lazy buggers =) |
| 00:51.09 | Corrodias | you also have a list of people who have curses on them. which addon is that? |
| 00:51.12 | Thrae | Cool, http://svn.wowace.com/files now automatically rips out the TOC description, you should all check it out. Most of the files are release-ready, the authors just haven't gotten around to it. |
| 00:51.13 | Kirkburn | I can't bring myself not to think of a good name .... bit hard after 30 chars, but I still enjoy it |
| 00:51.17 | jaxdahl | hmm , in a BG if you click someone and right click their portrait and click 'whisper', it doesn't add their realm. bug? |
| 00:51.23 | Thrae | ScytheBlade1: Already does on SVN, use http://svn.wowace.com/files |
| 00:51.27 | Corrodias | Kirkburn: god, i've been hard pressed to come up with just a few |
| 00:51.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae, does the current SVN work? |
| 00:52.33 | Thrae | ScytheBlade1: Yes, it just has a few very small bug fixes and the server name / "key server" option addition |
| 00:52.36 | Corrodias | i ... like to wait for releases, to try to avoid larger bugs |
| 00:52.56 | Kirkburn | Ellera, Banja, Faleya, Kerri, Treya, Zangetzu, Fearen (not a warlock, no), Draesyn, Khala, Lamian, Myana, Pietr, Stala, Trajan, Warburn, Ellaya, Ryvern |
| 00:53.11 | Corrodias | but i dont think that works well for wow addons anyway, so i might as well just download the nightly build like everyone else |
| 00:53.31 | Thrae | Corrodias: Some authors don't like to go through the hassle of updating on the various UI sites, especially wowinterface as it requires approval. |
| 00:54.16 | Kirkburn | It hardly makes a difference, approval. You don't have to *do* anything |
| 00:54.17 | Corrodias | it just feels so... unfinished? beta? |
| 00:54.42 | Thrae | For example, PerfectRaidTargets can only be found on http://svn.wowace.com/files, even though I've been using it for 5 months now without problems. Tekkub just doesn't like to go through the hassle of making screenshots, a description, reading the site at least once a month, etc. |
| 00:55.04 | Thrae | Teknicolor is also a great, finished mod Tekkub hasn't released outside SVN. |
| 00:55.06 | Corrodias | thus putting the burden on the players :P |
| 00:55.06 | Kirkburn | Those were just some of my original char names, plus there are some who have since been deleted to make space on certain servers |
| 00:55.15 | ScytheBlade1 | What does PerfectRaidTargets do? |
| 00:55.30 | Corrodias | i hate trying to find out about these addons by word-of-mouth, let me tell you |
| 00:55.39 | Thrae | PerfectRaidTargets shows the targets of party and raid members, and adds Raid Target Icons next to them if applicable. |
| 00:55.39 | Kirkburn | Tekkub sounds lazy ;) |
| 00:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 00:55.51 | kergoth | Thrae: he renamed to perfecttargets, in case you didnt notice |
| 00:55.54 | kergoth | it kicks ass |
| 00:55.57 | kergoth | just need some more options |
| 00:56.08 | Thrae | If a target has more then one person targetting it, it shows the count of people targeting it. If no one else but you is targeting, then it shows - |
| 00:56.27 | Corrodias | okay, with this SVN system, i have three more questions. 1) can you get older versions? 2) are there actual version numbers, and 3) can you get addons from it without using a shell extention? |
| 00:56.47 | Iriel | Corrodias : Tortoise SVN is a great windows GUI for SVN |
| 00:56.47 | Kirkburn | 3) Without a program, not easily |
| 00:56.57 | jaxdahl | Iriel, i concur |
| 00:57.00 | Corrodias | tortoise, isn't that the shell extention? |
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| 00:57.04 | Iriel | Corrodias : The repository is versioned, you can use svn log (or gui equiv) to see what they are, and then get out. |
| 00:57.24 | Iriel | Corrodias : Oh, depends what you mean by shell extension.. It hooks itself into windows explorer. |
| 00:57.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias, 1) yes 2) kinda 3) yes, but you probably don't want to use the CLI (unless you really are a *nix junkie) |
| 00:57.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a shell extension. |
| 00:57.38 | Iriel | Corrodias : I'm a unix person, shell means something else to me |
| 00:57.44 | Thrae | Corrodias: SVN access to anonymous users has been denied for svn.wowace.com. What cladhaire now does is automatically zip up an addon and its external libraries upon commit. You can download the ready-made addon from http://svn.wowace.com/files without trouble. It's all ready to go, nothing else required. |
| 00:57.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:57.57 | Kirkburn | It means a petrol station to me :P |
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| 00:58.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Irony overwhelming |
| 00:58.04 | jaxdahl | Thrae? |
| 00:58.05 | Corrodias | you're kidding me, they don't even let people in? |
| 00:58.07 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 00:58.09 | Iriel | Well, that was fun. |
| 00:58.13 | jaxdahl | when was anon access removed? |
| 00:58.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I just updated TinyTip via SVN anon... |
| 00:58.36 | Thrae | Corrodias: All addons since 2pm tommorrow will be zipped up for EACH revision (each commit is a new revision). Older revisions then that, you will have to ask a developer. |
| 00:58.39 | jaxdahl | i've been able to check stuff out this week |
| 00:58.40 | Iriel | I was about to say, there's a fully featured command line svn tool around, i'm sure there's a windows build that doesnt' require cygwin |
| 00:58.48 | Kirkburn | As I was saying, Iriel :P Shell means a petrol station to me ;) |
| 00:59.08 | Thrae | You need to be a developer, cladhaire might have re-opened anon access for a little while for people to make the transition |
| 00:59.14 | Iriel | 71077345 |
| 00:59.17 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 00:59.18 | Corrodias | where can i find a version history for tinytip? |
| 00:59.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I enjoyed updating by clicking on a button :P |
| 00:59.39 | Kirkburn | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ |
| 00:59.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't want to go and update crap via .zip files :( |
| 00:59.44 | Kirkburn | I can access that fine |
| 00:59.54 | Thrae | Corrodias: Anything downloaded from /svn.wowace.com/files includes a changelog.txt which includes the revision history. |
| 01:00.15 | Thrae | Hmmm, seems cladhaire's still tweaking it, the intention is to block off all non-developer access eventually. |
| 01:00.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Why? |
| 01:00.33 | Kirkburn | That'll annoy those who want to see the fubar svn |
| 01:00.34 | Corrodias | so developers stop being lazy |
| 01:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Uhh...? How does killing anon svn prevent laziness? |
| 01:01.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, I'm tempted to sign up with one of my microscopic mods just to get access again if that's the case :P |
| 01:01.48 | Thrae | SVN is a resource-hog, cladhaire runs SVN on a shared server and took up an overwhelming amount of HTTP requests during patch day, which will only continue for a while as new patches are put into place. |
| 01:01.53 | Corrodias | i'm sorry, something about this really annoys me and until i figure out what it is i won't say anything further. |
| 01:02.02 | Thrae | Each external is a HTTP request, each single FILE is a HTTP request. |
| 01:02.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's legit then |
| 01:02.09 | MentalPower | 2.5GB/day just from the SVN server |
| 01:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I know how SVN works |
| 01:02.28 | ScytheBlade1 | If you said "server strain" that'd clarify it ;) |
| 01:02.30 | Kirkburn | Wow, how is that even possible? |
| 01:03.06 | jaxdahl | changelog + zipped files would be good. |
| 01:03.07 | Thrae | I was surprised too, I had no idea SVN was not optimized for batch downloads. I guess it is, after all, a developer's tool, not really intended for mass consumption. |
| 01:03.14 | Thrae | jaxdahl: And that's what we have now. |
| 01:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Not generally, no, but bah! .zip files suck |
| 01:03.56 | Kirkburn | The Ace homepage is slightly ... out of date? |
| 01:04.33 | Thrae | I don't even know why it has a homepage, they just update everything in its forums ;) |
| 01:04.52 | Kirkburn | It only takes about 5 mins to make it up-to-date :/ |
| 01:05.08 | Corrodias | i like addons catalogued in a searchable manner where i can see user comments and a changelog in front of me... like curse, or WoWI. i think relying on users to get your addon from svn just feels so... 80's. |
| 01:05.14 | Corrodias | early 90's, excuse me |
| 01:05.32 | MentalPower | Kirkburn: are you the guy in charge of wowwiki? |
| 01:05.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias, I prefer it.. faster, easier, far less effort ;) |
| 01:05.48 | ckknight | Kirkburn, yes, but that's Kael's responsibility, afaik |
| 01:05.50 | Corrodias | far less effort? |
| 01:05.52 | Kirkburn | lol, not in charge, no ... 'heavy user' might be more accurate |
| 01:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias, I right-click, select SVN, then select 'Update' |
| 01:06.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias, done |
| 01:06.10 | Thrae | Corrodias: That I agree with, svn.wowace.com is not a good place to release addons from. |
| 01:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Release? Crap no |
| 01:06.25 | ScytheBlade1 | But apathy > zip files |
| 01:06.28 | MentalPower | Kirkburn: perhaps a better question would be, are you an admin over there? |
| 01:06.32 | Corrodias | ScytheBlade1: fine for addons you already have and understand... and trust not to have to talk to the developers about anything over |
| 01:06.45 | Iriel | Thrae : Is the ace svn set up with apache2 or with svnserve? |
| 01:06.58 | Kirkburn | Um, not an admin either, not yet anyway (new admins haven't been made for a looong time, but me and Mikk are trying to get more) |
| 01:07.02 | ckknight | apache, I think, Iriel |
| 01:07.03 | Iriel | Thrae : Because the apache2 config is supposed to support deflate compression |
| 01:07.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias, Releasing? No, that is stupid. And I can understand killing anon access for server stress. But I still prefer the SVN to .zip files for things like TinyTip here |
| 01:07.32 | Kirkburn | MentalPower, why? |
| 01:07.32 | Thrae | Iriel: You'd have to ask cladhaire specifically |
| 01:08.07 | Kirkburn | (there's only 1 active admin on the wiki atm :/ ) |
| 01:08.19 | Corrodias | i also like to have multiple versions on hand in case i want to edit something in the addon myself... well, no matter. i can live with my UI and the occasional addon that i happen to overhear people talking about i can download manually. :P |
| 01:08.57 | MentalPower | Kirkburn: because the new frontpage drives me nuts, it doesn't have the two links I use the most (that were there on the old homepage) Events_(API) and Widget_API |
| 01:08.57 | Thrae | ScytheBlade1: You could make a script which downloads, extracts, and overwrites |
| 01:09.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae, or! And just a thought: I could keep on right-clicking and pressing 'Update' ;) |
| 01:09.21 | Thrae | Corrodias: If you ever find yourself needing an old revision, you could ask someone active in #wowace, or email cladhaire for SVN access. |
| 01:09.23 | Kirkburn | MentalPower, just click on the Interface Cust. menu |
| 01:10.08 | Corrodias | SO very 90's |
| 01:10.26 | End | svn wasn't even around in the 90's |
| 01:10.47 | Kirkburn | MentalPower, make a comment on the discussion page so that's it's known :) |
| 01:10.47 | Corrodias | no, but personally handing out files and no place to put comments or search was pretty 90's :) |
| 01:11.09 | Kirkburn | (me, Mikk and AnduinLothar designed the new frontpage, so we're kinda responsible) |
| 01:11.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias, in my case, I've got IRC, right here ;) |
| 01:11.14 | Corrodias | i'm curious as to how these authors get bug reports |
| 01:11.25 | End | well, svn is hardly for direct end user release |
| 01:11.25 | Thrae | Corrodias: flyspray |
| 01:11.27 | MentalPower | Kirkburn: will do |
| 01:11.44 | Corrodias | well, you seem to know what flyspray is, which is good enough i guess if your users do, too |
| 01:11.51 | Thrae | Corrodias: http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/ |
| 01:12.32 | Corrodias | cute! |
| 01:12.46 | Corrodias | that's like how they do it on sourceforge, except all the addons in one place, isn't it? |
| 01:12.49 | Thrae | Corrodias: And remember, every new revision since yesterday will be zipped, the old revisions won't be deleted. |
| 01:12.55 | Kirkburn | The Interface Cust. Menu is supposed to be the main page for anyone interested in the UI now (made by Mikk) |
| 01:12.58 | Thrae | You can change the view to a specific addon |
| 01:13.14 | Corrodias | how convenient |
| 01:13.41 | Thrae | I think it also syncs with wowinterface's bug portal, or at least they're working on it |
| 01:13.52 | Corrodias | i bet you know what that is, too :) |
| 01:16.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I just realized what bugs me so much about my UI |
| 01:16.14 | Corrodias | i obviously can't force you to use a common release site, though it means i may not learn about your addon, but that's probably okay. |
| 01:16.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The minimap, that's the only default UI element left |
| 01:16.29 | Thrae | Hey, I use three release sites myself. |
| 01:17.56 | Corrodias | i have my minimap & action bars to do something about, but i don't know what i want to do about them, yet. |
| 01:18.14 | zinor | http://v2.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/burning-crusade-itemsets/ to add to the fun |
| 01:18.30 | zinor | oops |
| 01:18.32 | zinor | forgot to push live |
| 01:18.39 | ScytheBlade1 | The problem with the minimap bit is 1) it's too big and 2) too many addons depend on butting their little button around it's circle |
| 01:18.40 | Thrae | ScytheBlade1: Make it square with Squeenix, it's on wowi |
| 01:19.02 | Thrae | You can scale it with Visor, also on wowi |
| 01:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I want it to be square, but the top and right sides shouldn't have a border - they should be dead on the sides of the screen |
| 01:19.49 | Thrae | You can hide "MinimapCluster" with Visor too. |
| 01:20.01 | zinor | there: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/burning-crusade-itemsets/ |
| 01:20.51 | Kirov | Does OnLoad ever get called for a created frame? |
| 01:21.31 | MentalPower | Kirov: yep |
| 01:21.37 | MentalPower | you just can't modify it |
| 01:21.42 | Kirov | frk |
| 01:21.50 | Iriel | Do you mean 'CreateFrame' created? |
| 01:21.53 | MentalPower | it gets called before CreateFrame() returns |
| 01:22.04 | Iriel | As long as it's from a template, it'd be called. |
| 01:22.22 | Kirov | just creating a frame to get the VariablesLoaded event |
| 01:23.00 | Iriel | Why are you using VARIABLES_LOADED? |
| 01:23.11 | Iriel | 99% of the time folks should be using ADDON_LOADED |
| 01:23.11 | Kirov | Because I'm updating an old mod |
| 01:24.11 | Kirkburn | A naaru! http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Naaru2.jpg |
| 01:24.50 | Kirov | Naaru Naaru! |
| 01:26.09 | MentalPower | methinks thats the Draenei racial shield |
| 01:26.24 | Kirkburn | Well you'd be wrong :) |
| 01:27.11 | snurre | a naaru like that is trapped in silvermoon |
| 01:27.20 | Kirkburn | They were even in the last beastiary update, MentalPower :P |
| 01:27.29 | Kirkburn | *bestiary |
| 01:28.47 | Kirkburn | Btw, an annotated map of Outland: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Olmapvw1.jpg |
| 01:29.49 | Kirkburn | Who keeps killing CG? |
| 01:31.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Squeenix is nice |
| 01:31.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Not *quite* what I'm looking for though |
| 01:32.37 | kergoth | simpleminimap is quite nice, multiple textures to choose from, lets you drag the minimap around, etc. just dont get the latest verion, he went borg with it |
| 01:33.11 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty much, what I want to do |
| 01:33.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Is move the zone location to the bottom |
| 01:33.42 | ScytheBlade1 | And edit the Squeenix border to remove the top and right borders completly |
| 01:33.43 | jaxdahl | can someone overlay outland with eastern kingdoms or kalimdor so we have a size comparisioN? |
| 01:33.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Then move it to the very top-right corner |
| 01:34.59 | Kirkburn | Lots of shots in this thread: http://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?p=3763814#post3763814 |
| 01:35.17 | Kirkburn | jaxdahl, it's about the size of half a continent, maybe a little more |
| 01:35.37 | Kirkburn | say, the whole of lordaeron |
| 01:36.42 | zinor | SORRY |
| 01:36.44 | zinor | fixed again Kirkburn |
| 01:36.44 | zinor | lol |
| 01:36.47 | zinor | i think for good this time |
| 01:36.49 | zinor | i just adding more caching :) |
| 01:36.50 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 01:36.56 | zinor | btw |
| 01:36.56 | zinor | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Olmapvw1.jpg |
| 01:36.58 | zinor | id remove that from wowwiki |
| 01:37.06 | zinor | they'll get a dmca for it i think |
| 01:37.31 | Kirkburn | I can't do it myself, and it will only get replaced :/ |
| 01:38.29 | Kirkburn | hrm |
| 01:38.46 | jaxdahl | looks like they may be changing some combat mechanisms.. 'ratings' instead of percentages.. "+10 parry rating" |
| 01:43.07 | snurre | will probably go more towards the skill vs defense type on everything |
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| 01:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | bah, what's a good blp <--> tga converter? |
| 01:51.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It's been quite a long time since I've needed it |
| 01:51.16 | Corrodias | so who the hell is noggaholics and what is that image? |
| 01:51.30 | claviola | ScytheBlade1: mogrify from imagemagick works for a lot of things |
| 01:51.49 | ScytheBlade1 | claviola, seriously? It'll do blp? |
| 01:52.19 | claviola | dunno, but it's very handy to convert WoW screenshots from .tga to .png en masse :-) |
| 01:52.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:52.35 | claviola | ScytheBlade1: if you dcc me a .blp file I'll tell you |
| 01:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | That much I know |
| 01:52.40 | Kirkburn | http://nogg-aholic.blogspot.com/ |
| 01:52.50 | ScytheBlade1 | claviola, I have imagemagick.. I'm typing this on a linux box ;) |
| 01:53.01 | claviola | well, give it a shot |
| 01:53.12 | claviola | what does 'file' say? |
| 01:53.37 | ScytheBlade1 | gimme a sec |
| 01:55.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Border.blp: data |
| 01:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 01:55.36 | claviola | yikes :-P |
| 01:55.41 | ScytheBlade1 | and imagemagick is clueless |
| 01:55.43 | claviola | yeah, I don't think it supports them |
| 01:55.47 | ScytheBlade1 | mogrify: no decode delegate for this image format `Border.blp'. |
| 01:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It wouldn't |
| 01:56.41 | Iriel | There are few BLP tools |
| 01:56.52 | Iriel | apparently there's a java one out there that can convert to/from BLP |
| 01:57.00 | Iriel | I've yet to try it |
| 01:57.02 | claviola | wikipedia says there's windows and mac tools |
| 01:57.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I tried that java one |
| 01:57.12 | claviola | you could probably run the windows one under wine |
| 01:57.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It didn't even start |
| 01:57.41 | claviola | ScytheBlade1: by the way, do you run WoW under linux? |
| 01:57.48 | ScytheBlade1 | claviola, I have in the past, but I don't currently |
| 01:57.52 | claviola | I am planning on finally switching |
| 01:57.57 | claviola | but I wonder if I can just move my wow folder |
| 01:58.02 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, you can |
| 01:58.05 | claviola | or if I have to go through the tedious process of reinstalling |
| 01:58.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Most any blizzard game does not care for registry keys |
| 01:58.18 | claviola | hey, awesome |
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| 01:59.46 | Guillotine | I know this is probably a stupid question, but... is string.toInt correct? I can't find any documentation on it in the lua manual |
| 01:59.51 | Guillotine | or on wowwiki |
| 02:00.05 | Cide | tonumber() |
| 02:00.05 | MentalPower | nop |
| 02:00.08 | MentalPower | notumber(0 |
| 02:00.13 | Guillotine | ahh. thank you ^_^ |
| 02:00.14 | MentalPower | cide is a faster typer |
| 02:00.19 | Cide | you sure messed that one up :) |
| 02:00.22 | MentalPower | yeah |
| 02:00.26 | Kirkburn | More accurate one, too ;) |
| 02:00.43 | Guillotine | string.tonumber or just tonumber? |
| 02:00.48 | MentalPower | tonumber() |
| 02:00.52 | Guillotine | alright :) |
| 02:01.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Correction: all blizzard games do not care for reg keys |
| 02:01.47 | Kirkburn | That's why all the test client does is copy the files? |
| 02:01.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:01.57 | Kirkburn | It doesn't need to do anything else |
| 02:02.13 | ScytheBlade1 | You can go ahead and delete everything that it does put in the registry, then start WoW |
| 02:02.18 | ScytheBlade1 | And it'll start just as before |
| 02:02.29 | claviola | hey, that's pretty neat. |
| 02:02.39 | ScytheBlade1 | You can do that with any blizzard game at all |
| 02:03.57 | Kirkburn | Look at the dates in this screenshot :P http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/kcma_2nd/misc/7e246212.jpg |
| 02:05.14 | Kirkburn | I'd quite like his pay-method |
| 02:05.35 | Guillotine | how would someone do that/ |
| 02:05.47 | ScytheBlade1 | "Exempt" |
| 02:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 02:05.51 | Kirkburn | 25 year game cards? I think I've heard of them |
| 02:05.58 | Kirkburn | Don't employees get them? |
| 02:06.01 | snurre | yes |
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| 02:06.59 | Kirkburn | AnduinLothar, did you get a 25 year game card? |
| 02:08.06 | claviola | I just wish they'd release a damned linux client |
| 02:08.16 | claviola | I read that there was one during early beta |
| 02:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a copy of it |
| 02:08.55 | claviola | neat! can you send me? |
| 02:09.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It segfaults upon launch |
| 02:09.08 | claviola | yeah, just to check it out |
| 02:09.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Go find a version of the alpha, it's still around |
| 02:09.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It was left in the MPQs |
| 02:09.50 | claviola | huh |
| 02:09.57 | claviola | compressed inside the MPQs? that's odd |
| 02:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Why is that odd? |
| 02:10.10 | ScytheBlade1 | You clearly never modded a blizzard game before ;) |
| 02:10.11 | claviola | well, the binaries themselves? |
| 02:10.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:10.20 | claviola | no, that I haven't |
| 02:10.21 | ScytheBlade1 | and all of the needed libs |
| 02:10.35 | claviola | I have played with MPQs before, but just to check out models. |
| 02:10.37 | Kirkburn | Well, the mpqs are just bunches of files anyway |
| 02:10.57 | claviola | I doubt I'll be able to find a copy of alpha WoW, either way |
| 02:10.57 | AnduinLothar | 300 month |
| 02:11.09 | Kirkburn | Long enough, then :P |
| 02:11.43 | Kirkburn | But you have two accounts anyway, iirc? |
| 02:11.58 | AnduinLothar | all blizzard employies get 3 25 yr cards |
| 02:12.09 | Kirkburn | 3? Goddamnit |
| 02:12.33 | Kirkburn | I need to find an employee ... |
| 02:14.08 | ScytheBlade1 | How can I move a frame around? I need to change where the minimap is positioned |
| 02:14.22 | AnduinLothar | MobileFrames is your friend |
| 02:14.31 | ScytheBlade1 | From the API |
| 02:14.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Not another addon ;) |
| 02:14.39 | Kirkburn | MF rocks |
| 02:14.49 | Kirkburn | Btw, is there a reason why I can't hide the pet bar background? |
| 02:15.01 | AnduinLothar | mmm, that's BarOptions |
| 02:15.09 | AnduinLothar | which currently doesn't have a maintainer |
| 02:15.22 | Kirkburn | I know that's not MF ... darn |
| 02:15.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm looking for the LUA stuff to move frames around ;) |
| 02:15.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Not an addon to do it for me |
| 02:15.43 | Kirkburn | It's the one thing that annoys me currently |
| 02:15.44 | AnduinLothar | then look in the MF code, duh |
| 02:15.56 | AnduinLothar | or try the wiki |
| 02:16.00 | AnduinLothar | there's a tutorial |
| 02:16.11 | Kirkburn | G'night everyone :D |
| 02:16.31 | Kirkburn | (and try out Lego Star Wars I/II, it's awesome) |
| 02:25.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Good crap @ MF, 86kb of LUA just to move a frame around |
| 02:25.16 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a lot of reading |
| 02:27.01 | AnduinLothar | it's not exactly clean code either |
| 02:27.06 | AnduinLothar | was one of my first addons |
| 02:27.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not finding this tutorial on the wiki either |
| 02:27.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I can see placing stuff, creating it |
| 02:27.31 | ScytheBlade1 | But not moving it |
| 02:27.35 | AnduinLothar | HOW_TO_MOVE_FRAMES |
| 02:27.42 | AnduinLothar | or something liek that |
| 02:31.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone having a hard time logging into the forums? :o |
| 02:32.25 | MentalPower | Mr_Rabies2: no issues here |
| 02:32.28 | MentalPower | just logged in fine |
| 02:32.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it keeps giving me a login error |
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| 02:35.46 | claviola | FuBar_tcgTradeskills is saying it can't find an instance of Abacus-2.0. Should I just grab !!!Libraries to be done with this problem? |
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| 02:37.00 | claviola | oops, wrong channel |
| 02:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, progress |
| 02:38.04 | ScytheBlade1 | /script MinimapCluster:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", "UIParent", "TOPRIGHT", 18, 22); |
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| 02:44.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | gah |
| 02:44.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | I still can't login to the forums after clearing the cache and my cookies |
| 02:45.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | in IE either |
| 02:45.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | gahh |
| 02:45.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think blizzard broke something |
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| 03:16.31 | Kirov | this poker mod is horrendously written |
| 03:17.08 | MentalPower|ZZzz | night guys |
| 04:15.48 | jaxdahl | hey zinor? |
| 04:19.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | sigh |
| 04:19.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wanna login to the forums :[ |
| 04:28.50 | Kirov | How can you see if you're in a battleground? |
| 04:30.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | check the zone title on the minimap? :P |
| 04:30.38 | Kirov | no other way? |
| 04:37.57 | Kirov | I don't care which battleground, just if I'm in a battleground |
| 04:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, dumb stupid question |
| 04:40.35 | ScytheBlade1 | If I define a SavedVariable, how do I init it upon first addon usage, and likewise, how do I init it on subsequent addon use? |
| 04:40.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ..... never mind |
| 04:40.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Forgot the bit about local vars :P |
| 04:46.13 | jaxdahl | hmm.. i'm going through my addons and keeping them up to date.. i have this one called Informant, but i am only seeing it in compilations on wowinterface, and no hit for it on curse-gaming |
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| 04:47.52 | Mr_Rabies2|away | aha |
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| 04:49.33 | jaxdahl | i'm trying to streamline my addons. finding better ones and replacing old ones. anyone have any recommendations to replace these: IX BibToolbars, IX COre, IX IconMover, IX ItemSync SHell ? |
| 04:53.35 | Kirov | IX? |
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| 05:06.53 | jaxdahl | IX = InsomniaX |
| 05:07.01 | jaxdahl | a compilation I got way back when |
| 05:07.10 | jaxdahl | but now I've learned which addons I like and don't like |
| 05:07.14 | jaxdahl | and am compiling my addons |
| 05:08.57 | jaxdahl | AQ Auto Mount, AVBars, Bagnon, BuyEmAll, CThun Warner, CT_ Mailmod/RA/RT, Decursive cont'd, eCastingBar, Enhanced Tooltip, EquipCompare, Gatherer, GETDKP Plus, ImprovedErrorFrame, ItemRack, La Vendetta, MobHealth3, Mobinfo-2, Perl Classic UFs, RABuffs, Recap, SCT, SpellAlertSCT, SW_Stats, Quickloot, TheoryCraft, TipBuddy, Yatlas, Fubar2, PerfectRaid |
| 05:12.03 | Corrodias | i need to update to fubar2 now that i have my minimap issues sorted out |
| 05:24.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, my addon is done |
| 05:24.30 | ScytheBlade1 | A square minimap that doesn't suck |
| 05:25.11 | Hexarobi | anybody here have a mac? my addons not working on macs aparantly but i dont see why |
| 05:25.18 | jaxdahl | SCT isn't working for me .. damage i do isn't showing up, some other stuff is though.. i reset the options to default, but it still isn't showing damage i deal, any ideas? |
| 05:26.19 | Kirov | SCT doesn't show your damage |
| 05:26.22 | Kirov | never has |
| 05:26.31 | Kirov | SCTD does |
| 05:26.44 | jaxdahl | i've never had sctd.. |
| 05:26.57 | jaxdahl | before i updated to 5.0, it was showing damage |
| 05:27.36 | Kirov | Through a custom version? |
| 05:27.46 | jaxdahl | maybe, i am not sure |
| 05:28.54 | jaxdahl | installing sctd |
| 05:29.14 | jaxdahl | maybe it was the default blizzard damage i was seeing before? |
| 05:32.46 | Osagasu | probably. |
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| 06:11.22 | Cairenn | Cair wasn't in channel tonight because she was off hanging with Cladhaire and Satrina and their guild for the evening |
| 06:11.46 | AnduinLothar | fun with the boys, eh? |
| 06:11.54 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 06:12.10 | Cairenn | good food, good company, good wow talk, good geek talk |
| 06:12.10 | AnduinLothar | what, and no on einvited me!? |
| 06:12.24 | Cairenn | hey, you want to fly to Ottawa, sure |
| 06:12.35 | AnduinLothar | hmmm. you have a point |
| 06:12.43 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 06:13.01 | Mr_Rabies2|away | EH |
| 06:13.08 | Mr_Rabies2|away | oops caps :x |
| 06:13.09 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Kirov> SCT doesn't show your damage |
| 06:13.41 | AnduinLothar | I decided I needed more geek toys and apparel, so I'm doing some online shopping. Anyone have any nifty suggestions? |
| 06:13.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can make it change the font and stuff for your damage |
| 06:14.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, there's the obvious http://thinkgeek.com |
| 06:14.09 | AnduinLothar | already there |
| 06:14.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | then there's http://jinx.com http://splitreason.com |
| 06:14.20 | AnduinLothar | anyone know a place that has more t's? |
| 06:14.25 | AnduinLothar | ah jinx |
| 06:14.27 | AnduinLothar | forgot the name |
| 06:15.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | AHH |
| 06:15.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | somehow KISS made its way onto my pandora station |
| 06:15.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | it went from Blind Guardian, Dio, Dream Evil, Iced Earth, etc to KISS |
| 06:18.25 | AnduinLothar | If I didn't already have half a dozen sweatshirts... http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=335 |
| 06:18.27 | zespri | Every time I acomplish a quest objective the ques watch for this quest shows up - really annioying - is that something new in 1.12 or and addon playing up |
| 06:18.29 | zespri | ? |
| 06:18.54 | Tem | yes, it's a new feature that's on by default |
| 06:19.01 | Tem | turn it off via the interface options menu |
| 06:19.05 | zespri | aha! |
| 06:19.10 | zespri | cheers! |
| 06:19.33 | AnduinLothar | oo, they have it in t-shirtness |
| 06:20.14 | AnduinLothar | anyone have a suggestion on a good mousepad? The one glued to my desk is deteriorating.. |
| 06:21.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use a ratzpadz GS, AL |
| 06:21.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love it |
| 06:21.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's basically a big cutting board |
| 06:22.13 | AnduinLothar | heh. I have a friend that makes glass lazer engraved mousepads... spose i could get one of his |
| 06:23.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | the problem with those is scratches :X |
| 06:23.28 | AnduinLothar | possibly. I think they get coated in something, i'll have to ask him |
| 06:23.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | ratzpad is a textured plastic of sorts, and you can wash it off with soapy water every now and then if it gets too much friction |
| 06:23.53 | jaxdahl | i have one of those boomerang type of pads |
| 06:24.19 | jaxdahl | it's many, many years old |
| 06:24.27 | jaxdahl | everglide i think |
| 06:24.43 | AnduinLothar | I was looking at one of these, but it's fairly expensive: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/7e4f/ |
| 06:25.04 | jaxdahl | http://www.techangel.co.uk/reviews/attackpad/everglide_top.jpg |
| 06:25.26 | AnduinLothar | that looks small.. |
| 06:25.30 | jaxdahl | still has retained its texture over the years |
| 06:25.35 | jaxdahl | AnduinLothar, that's a big mouse |
| 06:25.49 | AnduinLothar | i know i've used those |
| 06:26.03 | jaxdahl | it's plenty of room |
| 06:26.08 | AnduinLothar | mmk |
| 06:26.53 | jaxdahl | i got it in 1997 |
| 06:26.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i had to buy a new ratpadz after 3-4 years of use |
| 06:26.57 | jaxdahl | so it's 9 years old |
| 06:27.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i mean, they're like ten bucks |
| 06:27.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | about the same structure wise as an everglide, apparently |
| 06:27.24 | AnduinLothar | http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=284 That really should say lvl 60, I'd gewt one. |
| 06:28.08 | jaxdahl | one time i took my mom's pizza board to a lan party |
| 06:28.14 | jaxdahl | about 16"x18" |
| 06:28.16 | jaxdahl | she got mad |
| 06:28.19 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 06:28.23 | jaxdahl | about half an inch thick |
| 06:28.25 | jaxdahl | and quite heavy |
| 06:28.29 | jaxdahl | got a few stares at the party |
| 06:32.34 | AnduinLothar | http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=635 |
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| 06:38.37 | GeoDaMancer | 'Lo everyone. |
| 06:39.55 | Shadowed | quick |
| 06:40.00 | Shadowed | what's the command to make someone go afk besides /afk |
| 06:40.10 | GeoDaMancer | No clue. |
| 06:40.32 | Shadowed | sadface |
| 06:45.20 | GeoDaMancer | Sorry. |
| 06:46.18 | GeoDaMancer | Is there anyway to know if a 'Kick' attack hit, and suceeded in blocking a spell? |
| 06:56.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | gahh i still can't login the official forms |
| 06:56.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | forums* |
| 06:56.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | this makes me sad |
| 06:56.17 | GeoDaMancer | I've never tried. |
| 06:56.55 | GeoDaMancer | Heh. |
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| 07:07.24 | Shadowed | so did anyone finish downloading the TBC client's lua? |
| 07:16.13 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 07:18.02 | Shadowed | k the TBC installer looks really cool |
| 07:22.09 | Shadowed | and really damn slow |
| 07:35.16 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 07:35.18 | Shadowed | i wonder what "CombatFeedback" is |
| 07:39.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 07:40.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there an addon that lets you track the salt shaker/mooncloth/transmute cooldowns? |
| 07:40.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, cross-character? |
| 07:41.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | aha found a titan panel one |
| 07:41.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | rawksome |
| 07:52.09 | ckknight | boo Titan |
| 07:52.11 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:52.24 | Shadowed | agreed |
| 07:52.27 | Shadowed | don't use anything |
| 07:53.41 | ckknight | right. |
| 07:53.47 | ckknight | alternatively, there's a FuBar plugin |
| 07:53.55 | Shadowed | boo! |
| 07:54.08 | Shadowed | :p |
| 07:54.50 | ckknight | boo your mom. |
| 07:54.57 | ckknight | hehe, beat that. |
| 07:55.10 | Shadowed | ACE2 SUCKS, OMG LIBARZ LAWL |
| 07:55.12 | Shadowed | how's that! |
| 07:56.38 | Shadowed | no responce, i win by default :D |
| 08:02.46 | ckknight | you make baby Jesus cry. |
| 08:03.09 | Shadowed | hehe |
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| 08:04.39 | jaxdahl | is there an addon to swap dag/swords when you are stealthed? |
| 08:04.59 | jaxdahl | nvm.. itemrack should be able to do that, right? |
| 08:07.45 | Iriel | Night all. |
| 08:08.21 | Cairenn | night iriel |
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| 08:56.22 | chuckg | Can someone touch candybars for me please? |
| 08:56.36 | kergoth | ? |
| 09:02.11 | Gngsk | I think he means so it gets a zip on the /files/ ? |
| 09:05.04 | chuckg | Yep. |
| 09:05.13 | chuckg | It's not in the !!!!Libraries zip. |
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| 09:14.02 | Kanzie | Hey guys! I have a mod that triggers an event, however it seemes not to work. How can I just initiate a "say" on my toon from the event-function to see that it triggers correctly? |
| 09:15.01 | Gngsk | SendChatMessage("Hi.") |
| 09:15.44 | Gngsk | but, that can get spammy for those who are around you, using DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Hi.") is probably a better idea. |
| 09:16.59 | Shadowed | SendChatMessage defaults to say when type is nil? |
| 09:17.30 | chuckg | Is anyone aware of a way to do an array within the AceLocal function definition? |
| 09:17.37 | chuckg | A typical value: ["MENU_CLEAR"] = "Clear", |
| 09:18.24 | chuckg | Is it possible to do: ["ARRAY_OF_DATA"] = { [1] = "value", [2] = "value" } |
| 09:18.35 | chuckg | Then access it somehow? |
| 09:23.40 | Thrae | Table["ARRAY_OF_DATA"][1], etc. |
| 09:24.36 | wereHamster | { [1] = "value", [2] = "value" } is the same as { "value", "value" } |
| 09:28.39 | chuckg | Yea I know. |
| 09:28.42 | chuckg | :) |
| 09:28.47 | chuckg | Just an example! |
| 09:31.07 | Kanzie | but the thing is, I want my mod to perform a say later on, so I figured, learning how to accomplish this now is nice |
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| 10:14.03 | Kanzie | does anyone know how to perform a "say" using LUA |
| 10:15.12 | Thrae | SendChatMessage(msg, "SAY") |
| 10:27.47 | AnduinLothar | :) I got DM working with Telepathy |
| 10:28.08 | AnduinLothar | now to give it some useful features.. |
| 10:29.33 | AnduinLothar | So I'm looking into auto syncing and looking for suggestions on how to impliment it |
| 10:29.48 | AnduinLothar | the obvious thing would be when you go out of combat |
| 10:30.04 | AnduinLothar | but you may go out of combat while someone else is still in combat.. |
| 10:31.09 | AnduinLothar | maybe... only transmit once every fe minites if you're out of combat and no one has done or taken damage in x amount of time.. |
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| 10:48.50 | AnduinLothar | Is there an easy way to tell if your party members are in combat? |
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| 10:52.20 | Gngsk | AnduinLothar, UnitAffectingCombat? |
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| 10:53.04 | AnduinLothar | hmmm |
| 10:53.27 | AnduinLothar | turns out DM already has a complex code written to determine if the party is in combat |
| 10:53.33 | GeoDaMancer | What? |
| 10:53.46 | GeoDaMancer | DM? |
| 10:53.51 | AnduinLothar | DamageMeters |
| 10:54.25 | GeoDaMancer | I thought it was rather simple to check, or would be. |
| 10:54.47 | GeoDaMancer | Well, time consuming to check, but simple for the most part. |
| 10:54.50 | AnduinLothar | for the player yes. The party is a lil more complicated |
| 10:55.07 | Gngsk | loop 1,4 UnitAffectingCombat("partyI") ? |
| 10:55.16 | Thrae | UnitAffectingCombat doesn't work with party members? |
| 10:55.25 | Gngsk | it does. |
| 10:56.13 | GeoDaMancer | And, if you don't use that, isn't there an event for checking the suspension of regular regens? I don't remember if that only applies to players though. |
| 10:56.20 | GeoDaMancer | To -the- player. |
| 10:58.21 | GeoDaMancer | I'm still sort of new to all of the events, so I don't know. xD |
| 11:03.07 | AnduinLothar | so.. how often should it sync... once every 5 min? |
| 11:04.50 | Gngsk | once every 5 minutes doesn't sound like a good interval |
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| 11:08.29 | AnduinLothar | why not? |
| 11:09.23 | GeoDaMancer | When should what sync? |
| 11:09.33 | AnduinLothar | DamageMeters |
| 11:09.59 | GeoDaMancer | Not quite sure what that is. xD Or why it should sync. |
| 11:10.35 | AnduinLothar | records damage stats, but you can onyl record what you're in range of, since combat messages have a range like emotes |
| 11:10.39 | Gngsk | well, I can tell you for sure that swstats syncs more often than every 5 minutes |
| 11:11.02 | AnduinLothar | swstats syncs too often from what I hear |
| 11:11.13 | GeoDaMancer | Oooh, I get it now. I didn't know that. |
| 11:12.43 | GeoDaMancer | But I have a question. How, exactly, would it sync up, I mean, if it's comparing damage values, and things of the like, right? |
| 11:13.05 | AnduinLothar | magicly |
| 11:13.14 | GeoDaMancer | Sorry, this is just of great interest to me. Heh. |
| 11:14.10 | GeoDaMancer | Sounds like my sort of answer. I meant, does it keep track of every hit, and then compare those to make certain that none were missed, or something? |
| 11:14.24 | AnduinLothar | simpler than than |
| 11:14.26 | AnduinLothar | that* |
| 11:14.48 | GeoDaMancer | Just gets the total of the character's hit from them, and compares? |
| 11:14.56 | GeoDaMancer | Or, whatever the stat happens to be? |
| 11:14.58 | AnduinLothar | yup |
| 11:15.05 | GeoDaMancer | Ah. |
| 11:15.33 | GeoDaMancer | Then, if possible I'd do it when the person enters interact range, if that's possible? |
| 11:15.56 | GeoDaMancer | Or, emote range, unless that's too difficult compared to the gains? |
| 11:16.25 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 11:16.30 | AnduinLothar | oh |
| 11:16.31 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 11:16.40 | AnduinLothar | well atm it jsut syncs on command |
| 11:16.57 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah, and leave it to people like me to forget to sync it. xD |
| 11:17.18 | AnduinLothar | right, so i was attempting to automate it |
| 11:19.30 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah, I understand that now. Is there a way to only trigger something when a person comes back into interact range, or something? Perhaps trigger the sync at the end of each combat since DM already has it. |
| 11:25.09 | GeoDaMancer | Lua has the modulus operator, right? |
| 11:25.20 | zenzelezz | math.mod I think |
| 11:25.46 | GeoDaMancer | >.> I thought it'd be % like other languages. But I don't know for certain. |
| 11:26.56 | zenzelezz | /script message(10 % 4); |
| 11:27.11 | zenzelezz | blah blah "near '%'" |
| 11:27.23 | GeoDaMancer | Damnations. |
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| 11:27.54 | zenzelezz | so you have to type a few more characters, big deal :) |
| 11:29.33 | GeoDaMancer | So it's math.mod(x,y)? |
| 11:29.50 | zenzelezz | believe so |
| 11:30.22 | GeoDaMancer | Ye-up, thanks. |
| 11:32.35 | zenzelezz | make it work first |
| 11:32.38 | zenzelezz | then make it work well |
| 11:33.38 | GeoDaMancer | True, true. Which is half the reason I need to rewrite it. I am -horrible- at keeping things nice and neat and readable, so I have to go back and go "Wtf!?" for a while before I remember what it was. |
| 11:35.44 | GeoDaMancer | I've looked at things I wrote two years ago, and it gets even worse. |
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| 11:55.21 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm... |
| 11:59.17 | GeoDaMancer | Alright, getting drunk for the Stamina Bonus is not smart. |
| 12:00.53 | GeoDaMancer | Funny, but not smart. |
| 12:31.48 | GeoDaMancer | If you're dividing your script into multiple parts, or files, is there anything special you have to do to link the files to eachother? |
| 12:32.57 | Kanzie | Is there any way to make the toon automatically "say" something when he kills a MOB? |
| 12:33.51 | Kanzie | can I trap an event like that? |
| 12:34.05 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm. |
| 12:36.41 | GeoDaMancer | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS and when that fires have it check if UnitIsDead("target") |
| 12:37.25 | Kanzie | nice, and if it is then ChatMessage(""); |
| 12:37.55 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah. |
| 12:38.10 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Combat -- looks like you could look at CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH |
| 12:38.37 | GeoDaMancer | That might be better. xD |
| 12:39.02 | GeoDaMancer | I was just doing a quick scan of the list... Hey zen, maybe you could answer my question. *Points upwards.* |
| 12:39.57 | zenzelezz | I have no clue what you mean by linking them together. If it's related it sounds like you could just keep it in the same file in the first place |
| 12:41.23 | GeoDaMancer | Er, let me rephrase. I'm dividing the script into parts, just to make it easier on me to debug for now. Like file1.lua, file2.lua and file3.lua, and the directory is /file1/. Besides putting the file2.lua nad file3.lua in the .toc is there anything else I have to do? |
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| 13:22.41 | GeoDaMancer | Poke poke? |
| 13:29.55 | wereHamster | yes? |
| 13:31.30 | GeoDaMancer | Do you know much about scriptin'? |
| 13:32.13 | wereHamster | just ask.. |
| 13:33.22 | GeoDaMancer | Well, I'm trying to divide my addon into seperate files, so that I can organize it better, but have no clue how to do that. |
| 13:34.01 | GeoDaMancer | So, my question is, how does one seperate a single .lua file into seperate and still get them all to load. |
| 13:34.22 | wereHamster | unless you declare something 'loca', it's global and accessible from all other files and even other addons |
| 13:34.31 | wereHamster | 'local' |
| 13:34.54 | wereHamster | just add all your lua files to the toc |
| 13:35.11 | GeoDaMancer | WoW didn't load them even when I did that. |
| 13:35.51 | wereHamster | you need to restart wow if you change the toc |
| 13:36.06 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm, have to try that again. xD |
| 13:37.05 | GeoDaMancer | I didn't know you actually had to restart WoW. |
| 13:37.21 | wereHamster | and now you know ;) |
| 13:37.39 | GeoDaMancer | And knowing is Half the Battle. G.I. Joe! |
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| 13:43.41 | Tain | Fun potpourri at http://thedailywtf.com |
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| 13:45.05 | GeoDaMancer | wtf! |
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| 13:57.05 | Hexarobi | oy, search doesnt work on the new forums? |
| 13:57.41 | Mery2 | well if it doesn't it looks better while not doing it... |
| 13:58.35 | zenzelezz | search worked on the old forums? |
| 14:02.05 | Tain | Well, you could enter something to search for, and click the search button, and it wouldn't give you an error. |
| 14:02.16 | Tain | That was a form of working, sort of. |
| 14:02.29 | Mery | no, but if it is still broken, they made it at least looking better while beeing useless |
| 14:02.41 | Tain | Of course if you determine working to be returning results that you searched for... |
| 14:02.44 | zenzelezz | the search results list was the ugliest thing I'd seen... I often wished it had thrown an error instead |
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| 14:06.00 | Mery | nte has somebody uploaded the Interface files from the alpha somewhere (because then i could skip the download of the whole patch)? |
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| 14:14.54 | Hexarobi | is there a forum to post english strings to have them translated? |
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| 15:07.06 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm, this is sort of messed up. |
| 15:07.26 | wereHamster | what? |
| 15:07.44 | GeoDaMancer | Never mind. xD |
| 15:07.50 | GeoDaMancer | I hav a brain fart, so to speak. |
| 15:08.13 | Kirkburn | Well, er, the BE hairstyles are ... interesting |
| 15:08.14 | GeoDaMancer | ^had^ |
| 15:08.23 | GeoDaMancer | Interesting? |
| 15:08.28 | Kirkburn | Er, yeah |
| 15:08.36 | Kirkburn | http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9493/wowscrnshot082706065643fh0.jpg |
| 15:08.41 | Kirkburn | http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5738/wowscrnshot082706065718vr2.jpg |
| 15:09.00 | Kirkburn | They seem to have invented highlights at least |
| 15:09.03 | Kirkburn | And hair gel |
| 15:09.48 | Kirkburn | Btw, there's are *excellent* collections of screenshots on the worldofwar.net forums |
| 15:10.02 | Kirkburn | The expansion looks absolutely incredible |
| 15:10.34 | GeoDaMancer | He almost looks like link. o.O |
| 15:10.42 | GeoDaMancer | ^Link^ |
| 15:10.44 | Hexarobi | so theyre add Saiyains in the new expansion? |
| 15:10.54 | GeoDaMancer | That's what I was thinking when I first looked at it. xD |
| 15:10.55 | Kirkburn | The forums: http://forums.worldofwar.net/forumdisplay.php?forumid=7 |
| 15:11.28 | GeoDaMancer | I'd look, but I'm playing with WoW and attempting to view a page while doing that had lead to my unexplained death multiple times. |
| 15:12.01 | Kirkburn | However, I must say, it's great that they're experimenting |
| 15:14.35 | GeoDaMancer | There are abilities that lower casting time for a period, correct? |
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| 15:38.07 | Rallion | My account has been inactive since Thursday, and I kind of want to reactivate it, but I don't want to pay if I don't REALLY want to reactivate it. |
| 15:38.50 | Rallion | plus I have no money and everything's going on a credit card for the next two weeks, which will be totally fine but it makes me nervous anyway. |
| 15:40.38 | Rallion | eh, screw it...I haven |
| 15:40.50 | Rallion | haven't even gotten the patch, might as well do that at least. |
| 15:42.17 | GeoDaMancer | It's a small patch, comparitively. |
| 15:43.34 | Rallion | apparently I DID get it anyway and just forgot |
| 15:44.09 | GeoDaMancer | Heh. |
| 15:44.21 | GeoDaMancer | It's been out since monday. Or before monday. |
| 15:44.27 | GeoDaMancer | Er, Tuesday. |
| 15:44.36 | Rallion | yeah |
| 15:44.44 | Rallion | I didn't think I'd gotten it though |
| 15:44.53 | Rallion | Oh...yeah, now I remember. |
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| 16:02.20 | Atog | hello all. |
| 16:02.36 | GeoDaMancer | 'Lo. |
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| 16:03.32 | Atog | Anyone else had trouble with CTRA and Ossirian? |
| 16:03.58 | zenzelezz | what sort of trouble? |
| 16:04.13 | Atog | well, aside from the addon not detecting anything if you're too far from Ossi |
| 16:04.33 | Atog | Ctraid seems to trigger from Ossi getting the "x weakness" debuff |
| 16:04.42 | Atog | like arcane weakness, etc |
| 16:05.15 | Atog | it detects that, it sends a "supreme mode in 40" warning to everyone |
| 16:05.26 | Atog | unfortunately, our hunters had full dragonstalker. |
| 16:05.40 | Atog | it gives a bonus where you can get "expose weakness" |
| 16:06.04 | Atog | so CTRA happily detects that and says "he's now vulnerable to expose" since it think we used a pylon |
| 16:06.25 | Atog | resetting the timer, and causing everyone to wipe. |
| 16:06.54 | zenzelezz | sounds like you should poke Cide about that |
| 16:07.05 | Atog | oh, ok |
| 16:07.19 | Cide | don't use ds8 on him! |
| 16:07.25 | Atog | that'll work :) |
| 16:07.25 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 16:08.16 | Atog | I modified it (also fixed the warnings a bit, so they're coordinated instead of people yelling "supreme in 5" when you just used a pylon) |
| 16:08.25 | Atog | but I was kind of hoping for an official fix |
| 16:09.12 | Atog | oh, btw, is it just me or do lua escape sequences not work in wow? I was trying to parse a string for [, but I can't get that to work at all |
| 16:09.59 | wereHamster | %[ |
| 16:10.10 | Atog | is that wow-specific? |
| 16:10.16 | wereHamster | lua specific |
| 16:10.29 | Atog | thanks! |
| 16:12.42 | krka | nah, it's mostly string function specific :) |
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| 16:30.22 | Miravlix | Aah man, 5 minutes you don't script and your brain dead |
| 16:30.45 | Miravlix | Is there a macro to target last target or is it script only? |
| 16:31.06 | GeoDaMancer | TargetLast(); |
| 16:31.25 | GeoDaMancer | TargetLastTarget(); |
| 16:32.13 | Kirkburn | TargetLastTarget'Target'sMother'sHusband'sFish(); |
| 16:32.31 | cogwheel | Spaceballs the targetting function |
| 16:32.58 | Miravlix | Humm. /target Miravlix /cast Swiftmend /script TargetLastTarget() does not work. : |
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| 16:34.09 | cogwheel | Why would you need it to? /script CastSpellByName("Swiftmend", 1) would do what you want (assuming "Swiftmend" is exactly how the spell is spelled....) |
| 16:34.35 | Miravlix | Oh yeah I still live in pre target cspbn |
| 16:35.10 | Miravlix | They change the API so much I can't keep up with it |
| 16:35.28 | GeoDaMancer | .. /run TargetUnit("player") CastSpellByName("Swiftmend", 1) TargetLastEnemy(); |
| 16:35.45 | cogwheel | nope |
| 16:35.58 | cogwheel | the whole point of ", 1" is to cast on yourself |
| 16:36.05 | Miravlix | Doesn't work |
| 16:36.09 | GeoDaMancer | Oooh. |
| 16:36.14 | GeoDaMancer | I was looking at the wrong cast. xD |
| 16:36.22 | cogwheel | miravlix: that means you spelled the spell wrong then |
| 16:36.51 | cogwheel | shift-click the spell from your spellbook while you have the macro open (and then remove the rank) |
| 16:36.56 | Miravlix | cog: I've been codeing since beta, I might not be up to speed on patch 1.10 1.11 and 1.12 but I can code |
| 16:37.07 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.25 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.44 | cogwheel | is all you need. If it doesn't work then you may have some old addon improperly hooking CSBN... |
| 16:37.59 | GeoDaMancer | Hrm. |
| 16:38.04 | Miravlix | Offcourse |
| 16:38.18 | Miravlix | Or in this case I forgot how Swiftmend works since it's also new. :p |
| 16:38.35 | Miravlix | It fails unless I have regrowth/rejuv running |
| 16:38.53 | cogwheel | Ahh... that would do it ;) |
| 16:39.57 | GeoDaMancer | You need a full fledged script for that. xD |
| 16:40.37 | GeoDaMancer | What's the code for commenting out something? |
| 16:40.42 | cogwheel | -- |
| 16:40.45 | cogwheel | for one line |
| 16:40.52 | cogwheel | --[[ ...... ]] for a block |
| 16:41.13 | gi2k15 | Is there an API event for every time I target an unit? |
| 16:41.15 | Miravlix | Problem is I'm short on shortcuts |
| 16:41.29 | GeoDaMancer | shortcuts? |
| 16:41.30 | wereHamster | gi2k15, an event |
| 16:41.44 | wereHamster | PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 16:42.05 | gi2k15 | Yeah, I want to execute a piece of code everytime I target an unit |
| 16:42.47 | Miravlix | Yeah so I can't use Alt-Hotkey |
| 16:43.21 | Miravlix | To get swifmend to self cast |
| 16:43.59 | Miravlix | So I now have Shift-S Swiftmend on target and Shift-E Swiftmend on self. |
| 16:46.38 | zenzelezz | quick, hide the evidence |
| 16:48.43 | wereHamster | good morning Cairenn |
| 16:53.29 | GeoDaMancer | Tables in Lua start at 1, don't they? |
| 16:53.36 | GeoDaMancer | Index, I mean, not 0? |
| 16:54.23 | cogwheel | by default yes |
| 16:54.40 | GeoDaMancer | Well... That sucks. xD |
| 16:56.05 | wereHamster | what does 'MASTER_LOOT_THREHOLD' mean? |
| 16:56.41 | GeoDaMancer | I think that has to do with the looting type. Like, set to Good, Rare, and all that. |
| 16:57.15 | zenzelezz | I think it means what color items can be looted without ML |
| 16:57.22 | zenzelezz | but that's speculation on my part |
| 16:57.34 | GeoDaMancer | Yeah. |
| 16:57.34 | wereHamster | isn't it missing a 'S' ? |
| 16:57.44 | wereHamster | like in THRESHOLD? |
| 16:57.55 | GeoDaMancer | We're talking about Blizzard here. >.> |
| 16:58.14 | GeoDaMancer | Which reminds me, does anyone know if they finished the Ravenholdt quest series yet? |
| 16:59.10 | GeoDaMancer | Wheeee! |
| 17:00.19 | GeoDaMancer | This is fun. xD |
| 17:05.20 | cogwheel | Does :SetText() trigger the OnChange event? |
| 17:05.38 | GeoDaMancer | No clue. |
| 17:06.37 | krka | tables doesn't by themselves start at any particular index |
| 17:06.57 | cogwheel | if they're integer indexed they do... |
| 17:07.18 | krka | only some of the functions in lua start at some particular indices |
| 17:07.28 | GeoDaMancer | They start on 1. |
| 17:07.40 | cogwheel | { "apple", "banana", "carrot" } == { [1] = "apple", [2] = "banana", [3] = "carrot"} |
| 17:07.59 | GeoDaMancer | This = {1,2,3,4} is 1 1, 2 2, 3 3, 4 4. |
| 17:08.04 | GeoDaMancer | Which sucks at times. xD |
| 17:08.05 | krka | true, the constructor also starts at 1 |
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| 17:10.31 | wereHamster | GeoDaMancer, why does it 'suck' ? |
| 17:16.25 | zenzelezz | it should obviously start at 42 |
| 17:17.33 | GeoDaMancer | Oh, because I'm writing a script that keeps track of mana cost, casting time, and cool downs of spells/skills.. And to do that I was running through the talent trees to check for the ranking of certain ones, that lower times, and the like. And I have a a Table[Class][Skill] = {["Mana"] = {x,x,x,x}, ["Cast"] = {x,x,x,x}, ["Cool"] = {x,x,x,x}}. |
| 17:18.14 | GeoDaMancer | Now, it would have been nice to take the rank directly, and use the array up there... Like.. Table["Warrior"]["Herioc Strike"]["Mana"][0] |
| 17:18.35 | GeoDaMancer | At rank zero, and get the right number, but the arrays start on index 1. So I just had to make a minor rewrite which is annoying. xD |
| 17:19.07 | cogwheel | You can manually make the table start at 0... |
| 17:19.11 | GeoDaMancer | Er, a minor change. And have to remember that in other places. Stupid screwy landuage. |
| 17:19.23 | cogwheel | { [0] = "apples", "oranges", "cream cheese" } |
| 17:19.29 | krka | t = { [0] = first, second, third } |
| 17:19.33 | krka | what he said |
| 17:19.45 | GeoDaMancer | Yes... But I have a list of 6 of those, with three [0] = each, and I am -very- lazy. |
| 17:20.05 | cogwheel | programmer laziness is no excuse :P |
| 17:20.14 | cogwheel | that's how bad software gets written |
| 17:20.14 | GeoDaMancer | Yes it is, just not a good one. xD |
| 17:20.20 | krka | make your own constructor? |
| 17:20.35 | GeoDaMancer | Meh, I don't need to worry about it. Just incermenting the rank by one does the same thing. |
| 17:21.12 | krka | function makeTableZeroIndexed(...) for k, v in ipairs(arg) do arg[k - 1] = v arg[k] = nil end return arg end |
| 17:21.15 | krka | kinda |
| 17:22.07 | wereHamster | doesn't ranks start at '1'? |
| 17:22.15 | Kirkburn | This is madness ... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=32DA4C09BEB07855088A6F20EBB8C4DE?topicId=11211166&sid=1 |
| 17:22.21 | GeoDaMancer | No, Rank starts at 0, when you have no points in it. |
| 17:22.42 | GeoDaMancer | I'm taking about Talent Rankings, not Skill rankings. xD |
| 17:26.43 | Kirkburn | (seriously, do read that story I linked ... it's incredible and true) |
| 17:28.20 | krka | O_o |
| 17:35.21 | GeoDaMancer | HAHAHAHAH! |
| 17:35.29 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 17:35.49 | GeoDaMancer | The clip on my ipod is messed up, if I don't make sure it's closed, I might drop it like that. xD |
| 17:36.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ven (n=ven@dynadsl-080-228-78-195.ewetel.net) |
| 17:37.25 | Kirkburn | Btw, notice the name of this screenshot ... http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8732/allerianstronghold01rc7.jpg |
| 17:38.28 | Kirkburn | Perhaps http://www.wowwiki.com/Alleria_Windrunner is there :) |
| 17:39.09 | GeoDaMancer | Thanks, man, I needed a laugh. |
| 17:39.15 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 17:39.31 | Miravlix | What does the new (*) in ppls name mean? |
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| 17:40.57 | Kirkburn | Where've you seen that, Miravlix ? |
| 17:41.06 | Miravlix | Alterec Valley |
| 17:41.21 | Kirkburn | How does it appear exactly? |
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| 17:41.29 | Miravlix | Name (*) |
| 17:41.47 | Kirkburn | Many or few? If it's few, maybe it shows who's from your server? |
| 17:41.48 | GeoDaMancer | Whew. |
| 17:41.51 | MentalPower|AFK | I' guessing they're from another server |
| 17:43.59 | Rozr | how would I find out if a specific person is currently in my raid? |
| 17:44.31 | GeoDaMancer | Like specific Name? |
| 17:44.49 | MentalPower | I think theres a new IsPlayerOrPetInRaid() or something |
| 17:45.01 | GeoDaMancer | I think that's for Raid1 and things like that. |
| 17:45.31 | MentalPower | honestly I dunno |
| 17:47.50 | GeoDaMancer | local at = 1; do if (string.find(UnitName("Raid"..at), lookName) then return true else at = at + 1 end while (IsPlayerOrPetInRaid("Raid"..at)) |
| 17:47.57 | GeoDaMancer | Or something like that. |
| 17:48.35 | GeoDaMancer | There is a do { ... } while (expression) right? |
| 17:48.58 | GeoDaMancer | >.> Well, that doesn't matter so much, but that should work. xD |
| 17:49.07 | GeoDaMancer | Or, something like that. |
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| 17:50.38 | GeoDaMancer | Hello, War. |
| 17:51.26 | Warla | howdy |
| 17:54.59 | GeoDaMancer | Whew. |
| 17:58.27 | dukeku | hi Warla |
| 17:58.35 | dukeku | my swedish holmes |
| 17:58.42 | dukeku | s/swedish/swiss whatever |
| 18:01.41 | Miravlix | Alterec Valley post 1.12 both sides quickly run to the general and the first one to dps him down wins |
| 18:02.07 | krka | GeoDaMancer: try: while 1 do ... if not expression then break end end |
| 18:03.44 | GeoDaMancer | Or just make it a function, and have it return true once it hits the right point, or return false if it never does. |
| 18:03.55 | Miravlix | I also think it's slightly unfriendly of blizzard to take all the RP realms and put them together with all the loosers |
| 18:04.52 | krka | what has blizz done now? |
| 18:06.09 | Miravlix | for some reason having 10 Alterec Valley wasn't enough for Blizzard, they had to make it 40 |
| 18:06.20 | Miravlix | So RP realms is lumbed together with all the others |
| 18:07.05 | Miravlix | We went on a RP realm to avoid those loosers and now we get them back with BG's *sighs* |
| 18:11.19 | Kirkburn | Miravlix, the number of BGs surely depends on the number of players, not any defined number |
| 18:11.43 | zenzelezz | I'm curious though, do you stick to RPing in the BGs? |
| 18:11.51 | Shadowed | MentalPower: you ever manage to download the TBC? |
| 18:11.58 | Kirkburn | I do see what you mean about the RP problem though |
| 18:12.08 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, I meant to ask you the same :P |
| 18:12.16 | Shadowed | I did |
| 18:12.21 | Shadowed | i don't have any place to host the LUA files though |
| 18:12.32 | GeoDaMancer | Do you know if CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_VS_CREATURE_DAMAGE is fired when an opponent not tageting you starts to cast? |
| 18:12.41 | Shadowed | It looks like they redid everything |
| 18:12.45 | Kirkburn | We need Beladona to do a 'secret' comparison |
| 18:13.11 | Shadowed | Well, you wont see much changed. It looks like they recoded most of it |
| 18:13.18 | Kirkburn | Wow |
| 18:13.27 | Kirkburn | We really need a comparison then |
| 18:13.41 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, definately talk to Beladona about it |
| 18:14.00 | Shadowed | actually, it's only 1.02 MB. If somebody wants i can email you it |
| 18:14.06 | Kirkburn | If it's changed that much, we're going to need all the warning we get |
| 18:14.18 | Kirkburn | I can host it if you want |
| 18:14.23 | Shadowed | sec |
| 18:14.45 | Kirkburn | I'm just about to eat, but I can put it up when I get back (not long) |
| 18:15.01 | Shadowed | alright |
| 18:15.15 | Kirkburn | PMed my email |
| 18:15.39 | Shadowed | will send the zip in a second |
| 18:16.00 | GeoDaMancer | Hey, Kirk, is there anyway to tell if the enemy that set off a Combat Log message is the same one you're targeting? |
| 18:16.25 | Kirkburn | Not a clue, GeoDaMancer |
| 18:16.38 | GeoDaMancer | Wheee, jus' call me Geo, i's my name I mean. |
| 18:16.45 | Kirkburn | tab completion ftw |
| 18:16.47 | Shadowed | Kirkburn sent |
| 18:16.48 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 18:16.54 | Kirkburn | Okay ... be back soon! |
| 18:17.02 | GeoDaMancer | Heheheheh. |
| 18:17.51 | Shadowed | Theres definintantly a lot of files and code missing |
| 18:26.31 | Miravlix | Is there any rules I missed with the new forum, since I can't post in general? |
| 18:36.33 | Mery | shadowed: how did you open patch.mpq? |
| 18:37.06 | Shadowed | WinMPQ thing |
| 18:37.17 | Shadowed | you can install the actual client, so you get interface.mpq |
| 18:37.19 | Mery | because winmpq says not an mpq file for me, which is either a corrupted file or it because of the 2.5 gb size |
| 18:38.13 | Shadowed | The torrent downloads an installer, you install the client and then extract the mpq's |
| 18:38.55 | Mery | well i installed to BC F&F witht he installer, tehn i get a datafolder with the usual mpq's in it |
| 18:39.13 | Mery | ok i can open interface.mpq but not patch.mpq |
| 18:39.14 | Shadowed | yeah, i extracted interface.mpq |
| 18:39.29 | Mery | and i'm sure there are more files in patch.mpq |
| 18:39.38 | Mery | as i saw them in the installation mpq's |
| 18:39.47 | Shadowed | i can't open patch.mpq either, errors out instantly |
| 18:40.09 | Mery | anybody got a binary of mpqtool ? |
| 18:41.39 | Mery | or how do i compile a .csproj file? |
| 18:43.01 | Miravlix | argh |
| 18:43.09 | Miravlix | The forum upgrade... requires new urls |
| 18:43.45 | Miravlix | I'm just using my old URLs |
| 18:45.23 | End | yeah |
| 18:45.26 | End | that annoys me too |
| 18:45.33 | End | they should put redirects in :-/ |
| 18:47.29 | Miravlix | Anyone else find it strange we use plain text passwords that everyone can intercept and steal on the web site and it's our account password too |
| 18:48.11 | Miravlix | On the positive side it's less than 5% that post on forums. :p |
| 18:48.27 | Kirkburn | Hullo, hullo, I'm back. I'll host the files now |
| 18:48.29 | GeoDaMancer | I don't! |
| 18:49.16 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, you use very 'dark' names don't you :P |
| 18:49.35 | Miravlix | wtf |
| 18:49.43 | Miravlix | to hell with Blizzar |
| 18:49.43 | Kirkburn | bbq? |
| 18:49.55 | Miravlix | I can't change the URL to https to protect my password anymore |
| 18:50.16 | Miravlix | It wont log me in unless I transmit my account password as plain text over the net |
| 18:50.22 | Miravlix | How freaking stupid can they get! |
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| 18:50.45 | Nightdew | does anyone know if a SPELLCAST_DELAYED can be thrown without a previous SPELLCAST_START ..? |
| 18:50.47 | Kirkburn | But I thought the website had an authentication certificate |
| 18:51.41 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kaso (n=Jonathan@host81-159-1-145.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:51.42 | Miravlix | Enter the account name and corresponding password from your World of Warcraft account. This is not your characters name; it's the name and password that you use to log into multiplayer portion of the game. Please use our World of Warcraft forums. |
| 18:51.47 | Shadowed | Kirkburn: It just was a random nickname from a long time ago :p |
| 18:51.50 | Kirkburn | http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/BCInterface-5610.zip <-- the expansion UI files for you all! |
| 18:51.58 | Shadowed | it wasn't really 'dark' just got shortened and ended up keeping it :p |
| 18:52.05 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 18:52.54 | Kirkburn | Woah, it's totally different |
| 18:52.56 | Kaso | Kirkburn <3 |
| 18:53.09 | Kirkburn | And I mean *totally* |
| 18:53.32 | Shadowed | well, theres still old code |
| 18:53.39 | Miravlix | Well, my https trick might still work to protect my password, but I can't seem to login at all. |
| 18:53.51 | Shadowed | but a lot of files are either missing or entire blocks of code are gone |
| 18:53.52 | Kirkburn | But where's all the xml? |
| 18:54.02 | Kirkburn | Where's the fonts.xml files :( |
| 18:54.38 | Kirkburn | Looks good though, sensible |
| 18:55.13 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, what have you found out so far? :) |
| 18:55.28 | Mery | well thats totally incomplete ... |
| 18:56.46 | Kirkburn | Have you tried installing and running the extractor prog Shadowed ? |
| 18:57.14 | Kirkburn | (the official Blizz one .. or is that what you did?) |
| 18:57.39 | Mery | well the official one |
| 18:57.43 | Mery | extracts the files |
| 18:57.47 | Mery | but not the new ones |
| 18:58.03 | Kirkburn | ah |
| 18:58.05 | Mery | like i got a updated FrameXML.toc |
| 18:58.17 | Shadowed | Kirkburn i used WinMPQ |
| 18:58.17 | Mery | but Arena.xml (mentioned in there) was missing |
| 18:58.30 | Shadowed | Nothing interesting found so far really |
| 18:58.35 | Kirkburn | Gah, we need updated MPQ thingies |
| 18:58.55 | Mery | i think the mpqtool is already updated (not sure though) |
| 18:58.59 | Mery | but i can't compile it |
| 18:59.04 | Mery | and can't find a binary |
| 19:00.07 | Kirkburn | The most imporant stuff is in that zip at leat :) |
| 19:00.10 | Kirkburn | *least |
| 19:00.53 | zenzelezz | Life is meaningless. It is in death that we are truly tested. |
| 19:01.15 | Kirkburn | (If anyone gets updated file versions I will gladly host them, just poke me) |
| 19:01.29 | GeoDaMancer | Life is not meaningless, there is an answer. |
| 19:01.44 | Mery | well i'll try to gather everything from the installation tomes now |
| 19:01.53 | zenzelezz | Geo: tell that to Highlord Mograine |
| 19:02.22 | GeoDaMancer | Who in the what where when? |
| 19:02.47 | Rallion | ugh, Guitar Hero is consuming my life. |
| 19:03.01 | zenzelezz | GeoDaMancer: deathknight wing of Naxxramas |
| 19:03.16 | Mery | oh BLAH |
| 19:03.25 | Mery | how do i malke purl bonk me? |
| 19:03.37 | Mery | or whatever? |
| 19:03.38 | MentalPower | ~bonk me |
| 19:03.39 | purl | ACTION bonks mentalpower over the head |
| 19:03.44 | GeoDaMancer | Never been to Nax. xD Alright then. |
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| 19:04.17 | Kirkburn | It humours me how 'bonk' can have an alternate meaning over here |
| 19:04.17 | Rallion | so if I just reactivated my account around four hours ago, how long do you think it'll be until I can log in to the forums? |
| 19:04.22 | Rallion | sometime tomorrow? |
| 19:04.50 | Kirkburn | I say keep checking |
| 19:05.26 | Mery | I got the complete INterface files i guess... just had to start the interface extract tool "AFTER" renaming the folders, because just like wow it seems to read the "filestructure" on startup |
| 19:05.28 | Mery | lol |
| 19:05.52 | Kirkburn | Pack 'em up and mail 'em :) |
| 19:06.07 | Mery | :) to where? |
| 19:06.25 | Kirkburn | There :P |
| 19:06.52 | Rallion | I kinda want to get a domain and some hosting...the thing stopping me is that I don't know what domain to register. |
| 19:07.02 | Kirkburn | rallion.com? |
| 19:07.19 | Kirkburn | Websites and hosting is cheap as chips |
| 19:07.25 | Rallion | yeah |
| 19:08.07 | Rallion | rallion.com is definitely fine, but I feel like I could get something I'd like better. but then, it would probably just end up seeming idiotic. |
| 19:08.56 | Rallion | hehe |
| 19:09.17 | dukeku | Rallion: you can always try to register the shortest name you can get |
| 19:09.22 | Rallion | ooh |
| 19:09.23 | Rallion | hehe |
| 19:09.31 | Kirkburn | Rallion, I use 1&1, and I just have lots of addresses with one root directory |
| 19:09.37 | dukeku | that's what i did |
| 19:09.42 | dukeku | oool.org & pxqs.net |
| 19:09.45 | dukeku | my favorite being oool :~( |
| 19:09.49 | Kirkburn | e.g. kirkburn.eu and kirkburn.org.uk use one folder on the server |
| 19:10.10 | Rallion | yeah, I could do that, kirk, and then it wouldn't matter so much |
| 19:10.16 | dukeku | that's what i do |
| 19:10.22 | dukeku | i have those domains plus a few more |
| 19:10.29 | Rallion | i've never actually paid for hosting before, heh |
| 19:10.40 | Kirkburn | It's incredibly easy :) |
| 19:10.47 | Rallion | I've relied on the kindness of others and on crappy, crappy, crappy free places. |
| 19:10.52 | Kirkburn | I use 1&1 myself |
| 19:10.58 | Rallion | Once, many years ago, I had a Tripod site. |
| 19:11.02 | dukeku | dreamhost.com, look around and i'm sure you'll find a coupon code to remove the $50 setup fee |
| 19:11.14 | dukeku | comes with a free domain to start, not to mention totally awesome transfer/disk limits |
| 19:12.17 | Rallion | 1TB is impressive |
| 19:12.42 | Kirkburn | UI toc ... 20000 :D |
| 19:13.00 | Kirkburn | http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/BCInterface-5610.zip <-- the expansion UI files for you all! UPDATED! :D |
| 19:13.44 | Rallion | i think i like dot5hosting.com better, though, a little cheaper, but only half the transfer, maybe a few other missing things that I don't care about... |
| 19:14.04 | Shadowed | oo |
| 19:14.05 | Shadowed | itemsocketingui |
| 19:14.36 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, they said it was a totally new UI :) |
| 19:14.36 | Rallion | any base UI improvements in there besides things needed for new game features? |
| 19:15.02 | Kirkburn | Quite possibly ... I want Beladona to run a comparison :) |
| 19:15.54 | GeoDaMancer | ClearCursor() xD |
| 19:16.45 | Mery | well i can't see a new continent |
| 19:16.58 | Rallion | lol |
| 19:17.26 | Mery | and zones are minimap like as in the wow beta as of now (not those hand drawn style) |
| 19:17.56 | Kirkburn | Yeah, probably because it could change before release |
| 19:18.42 | Kirkburn | ArenaFrame is new of course |
| 19:20.04 | Miravlix | Hmm, I sure hope they aren't going to make a special edition or something |
| 19:20.19 | Kirkburn | PVPFrame is also new |
| 19:20.23 | Miravlix | These 'fake' pre-orders is hard to deal with |
| 19:20.25 | MentalPower | Mery: they said that the zone maps are the same as the generated ones (minimap) for now, they send them over to the art department once the zone has been finalized |
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| 19:20.49 | Mery | worldmapframe.lua still hase the funny "FIX ME FOR 1.13" in it |
| 19:20.56 | Shadowed | lol |
| 19:21.08 | Cide | uh oh |
| 19:21.12 | Mery | considering bc is 2.0 its even better now |
| 19:21.21 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 19:21.53 | Kirkburn | ArenaFrame, PVPFrame, and Blizzard_ItemSocketingUI are the new stuff |
| 19:22.14 | Rallion | any idea what PVPFrame actually is? |
| 19:22.29 | GeoDaMancer | What's ArenaFrame? |
| 19:22.41 | Kirkburn | PVP Team stuff |
| 19:22.53 | Kirkburn | ArenaFrame would probably be the arena gui |
| 19:23.02 | Mery | :) obvioulsy |
| 19:23.14 | GeoDaMancer | There's an Arena? Or going to be one? |
| 19:23.15 | Mery | arena system is the 2v2 3v3 5v5 ladder system thats suppsed to come |
| 19:23.20 | Rallion | probably contains the UI for setting up your roster and such |
| 19:23.29 | Miravlix | With Burninc Crasude you get Mini Guilds For PvP |
| 19:23.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm tempted to dl the bc client and use wowmodel/mapview on it :x |
| 19:23.38 | Rallion | good way of looking at it. |
| 19:23.41 | Miravlix | though is that PvP Team or Arena Frame? |
| 19:23.43 | Rallion | do it! |
| 19:24.02 | Kirkburn | ArenaFrame is like the BG joining stuff |
| 19:24.07 | Rallion | yeah, okay |
| 19:24.12 | Rallion | makes sense |
| 19:24.19 | Kirkburn | PVPFrame is the actual UI for teams |
| 19:24.21 | GeoDaMancer | As sad as it is, I've never been to a BG. xD |
| 19:24.36 | Rallion | aww. |
| 19:24.47 | MentalPower | Mr_Rabies2: thats what I'm DL'ing it for :) |
| 19:24.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehe |
| 19:24.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | how big is it? |
| 19:25.03 | Kirkburn | 1.4 or something like that |
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| 19:25.07 | Kirkburn | (gig) |
| 19:25.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 19:25.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | pretty freaking huge |
| 19:25.22 | MentalPower | 1.27GB |
| 19:25.26 | Mery | and uses 6 gig (makes a complete own copy) on the hd |
| 19:25.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it standalone, or do you have to have WoW installed for the beta? |
| 19:25.41 | MentalPower | wow installed (I think) |
| 19:25.44 | Rallion | if they do it the way they should, installing BC over a fully patched WoW install should actually make the install smaller. |
| 19:26.29 | Mery | well i think BC contains all patches from a vanilla wow :) |
| 19:26.36 | Rallion | exactly |
| 19:26.49 | Rallion | those patch changes take up about 2GB now |
| 19:27.05 | Rallion | mostly in one file. |
| 19:27.08 | Rallion | which I hate. |
| 19:29.15 | Rallion | I just hope installing BC eliminates the old data |
| 19:29.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4222 <- wow does that thing realy work ? |
| 19:30.23 | Cairenn | |FF|Im2good4u: yes |
| 19:30.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | my biggest prob is xml \o/ so im gona give it a try :p |
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| 19:33.57 | Mery | hmm extracting interface art missed some files (from expansionLoc.mpq) but there are no xml/lua files in either expansion.mpq nor expanionLoc.mpq so the zip might be complete but i wouldn't bet on it... |
| 19:34.04 | Kirkburn | I had a look at the UI designer recently - it's very good, I just had compatability problems with my computer (might be because I skin windows) |
| 19:34.41 | |FF|Im2good4u | i use stylexp :( |
| 19:34.59 | Kirkburn | I use Windowblinds cause it's awesomer than stylexp ;) |
| 19:35.14 | Rallion | damn straight |
| 19:35.28 | Rallion | i use nothing, though. I use XP, classic style |
| 19:36.02 | Kirkburn | I can't see the attraction of grey |
| 19:36.48 | Rallion | I do have a color scheme set up, but it's slate, which is like 95% grey, 5% blue. |
| 19:37.16 | Kirkburn | Heathen! :) |
| 19:37.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | nein i errors on load :( |
| 19:37.49 | |FF|Im2good4u | i need .net frameworks |
| 19:37.59 | Kirkburn | It does say that :P |
| 19:37.59 | Rallion | using something like Windowblinds just makes me want to set up an entire alternate shell, which is just not something that ever turns out well. |
| 19:38.31 | Cairenn | |FF|Im2good4u: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 |
| 19:38.38 | Kirkburn | I bought the entire Object Desktop package for $50 ... one of the best purchases I've made, I reckon |
| 19:38.43 | Rallion | a like without .NET is a life not worth living |
| 19:38.49 | Rallion | yeah, OD is nice |
| 19:38.59 | Rallion | and it's a company I don't mind giving my money to |
| 19:39.10 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 19:40.13 | Miravlix | I've just seen the worst PvP movie ever |
| 19:40.19 | Rallion | I've gotten WB and OD via torrents before, but I will never again steal from Stardock |
| 19:40.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | iv seen other programns needing .net but wut does .net frameworks actauly do ? |
| 19:40.57 | Miravlix | Alterec Valey fight there was 10 horde or so and 10 alliance and the alliance just ran around doing nothing and the horde didn't kill a single one of them |
| 19:41.04 | Kirkburn | I did once too, Rallion, but I've seen the error of my ways. The guys absolutely deserve every penny |
| 19:41.08 | Miravlix | Erk, wrong A place |
| 19:41.14 | Miravlix | Whats the other one |
| 19:41.20 | Kirkburn | AB? |
| 19:41.24 | Kirkburn | Arathi Basin :P |
| 19:41.42 | Miravlix | They won 2000/0 |
| 19:41.46 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:42.12 | Miravlix | The new queue need to rate |
| 19:42.28 | Miravlix | Give team a overall rating based on there ranks |
| 19:42.45 | Miravlix | and individuals has the rating based directly on there rank |
| 19:43.00 | Kirkburn | Ranks are being scrapped for BC :P |
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| 19:43.11 | Miravlix | Thats dumb |
| 19:43.24 | Miravlix | Keep the ranks but make them pointless except for BG matchups |
| 19:43.27 | Kirkburn | It won't be a stupid grind |
| 19:43.35 | Miravlix | So the BG algoritithm use them to rate us |
| 19:43.46 | Miravlix | So we go agains people of equal skill |
| 19:43.47 | Kirkburn | I'm sure they have something set up |
| 19:43.56 | Miravlix | Me fighting noobs is hardly fun |
| 19:44.12 | Kirkburn | There's obviously the gear matching, but I hope there's skill matching too |
| 19:44.20 | Miravlix | me fighting rank 2.5 gear is not fun either rank 10+ |
| 19:44.36 | Miravlix | I'm a middle rank person so fighting others middle rank is the most fun |
| 19:44.53 | Rallion | War3-style matching would be good, but even that frequently gives you very very unfair matches |
| 19:45.19 | Rallion | I made an account and my first game was against a rank 10 |
| 19:45.23 | Miravlix | If there is 10 noobs in queue and 10 Rank 1x team then match them up |
| 19:45.38 | Rallion | i won, which was hilarious |
| 19:45.38 | Miravlix | But try to get rank 1-5 teams to play against 1-5 ppl |
| 19:46.24 | Miravlix | There is still queues, so ranking wouldn't be that hard. |
| 19:47.26 | Rallion | i think they want queue times to be incredibly short, though |
| 19:47.34 | Kirkburn | Lol, even on a sunday, there's two updates to Object Desktop apps :D |
| 19:47.42 | Miravlix | They wont be longer most of the time though |
| 19:47.51 | Rallion | I will have Stardock's babies. |
| 19:47.57 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 19:48.19 | |FF|Im2good4u | WoW lol |
| 19:48.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | it does work |
| 19:48.25 | Kirkburn | They're hard at work on the Vista apps, I wonder how soon we'll start seeing betas of them |
| 19:48.39 | Kirkburn | |FF|Im2good4u, good to hear :) |
| 19:48.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | and my latest addon already coems up whit 2 error \o/ |
| 19:49.11 | Kirkburn | At least it shows it's doing something ;) |
| 19:49.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | wel it are wrong errors |
| 19:49.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | but its beta |
| 19:50.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | UnitName() and UnitRace() both nil values |
| 19:50.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | it even has a coool lua editor :P' |
| 19:57.19 | Rallion | wow...I decided to look at the UI Designer again, and I don't think I gave it enough of a chance when I looked at it before... |
| 19:57.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | does any1 nkow how to render the .xml ? |
| 19:57.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | its awsome i m o |
| 20:01.11 | |FF|Im2good4u | it seems verry good i just ned to find out how to add stuff :P |
| 20:01.56 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah that why there is a totural :p |
| 20:04.03 | Kirkburn | hehe |
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| 20:18.18 | Rallion | woo my new web space is on a BSD server |
| 20:23.19 | ckknight | Dolby-wowi, ping |
| 20:26.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | jesus it must have been hard to code WoW ui Disinger :p |
| 20:27.36 | Cide | /sigh |
| 20:27.54 | Cide | blizzard broke RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE in 1.12 again I think |
| 20:27.59 | ckknight | really? |
| 20:28.15 | ckknight | I know they fucked with it to not run at the beginning... |
| 20:29.00 | Cide | I don't think it runs on reload/login if you're in a raid |
| 20:29.04 | Cide | again |
| 20:29.09 | MentalPower | Cide: again? |
| 20:29.25 | MentalPower | that has to be the most broken/fixed event in WoW |
| 20:29.39 | Cide | it was broken in 1.10, "fixed" to *always* run (regardless of whether the player was in a raid or not) in 1.11, seemingly broken in 1.12 |
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| 20:31.13 | AnduinLothar | hows it broken this time? |
| 20:31.37 | AnduinLothar | just reload/login ? |
| 20:32.39 | Cide | dunno |
| 20:32.49 | Cide | but it's not being run |
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| 20:35.59 | Kirkburn | Woo for really nice updates :D My XP skin is sexier than ever |
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| 20:39.35 | MentalPower | Kirkburn: my pet pieve with skins for XP is that they're all processor hungry |
| 20:40.03 | Rallion | that is an issue, yes. |
| 20:40.10 | Rallion | that's why I use classis |
| 20:40.13 | Rallion | *classic |
| 20:40.16 | Rallion | with all effects off. |
| 20:40.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine's not processor hungry at all :O |
| 20:40.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it uses less than the default theme from what i've seen |
| 20:41.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | but yeah i turn off most of the animated effects |
| 20:41.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i don't like menus taking 3 seconds to pop up |
| 20:42.40 | Kirkburn | Oooh, windowblinds is faster than the default skinning engine |
| 20:43.10 | Kirkburn | When using windowblinds to display the default XP skin (remade for wb, of course), it's actually faster |
| 20:43.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use a hacked uxtheme.dll |
| 20:43.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and black mesa 2 theme |
| 20:44.55 | Kirkburn | I'm using Eminence atm, just found it had been updated - it's absolutely gorgeous :) |
| 20:46.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | not bad |
| 20:46.45 | Kirkburn | Hmm, I've lost 2.5 gig of HDD space in the last day, wonder where it's gone |
| 20:47.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs8/i/2005/283/4/c/Black_Mesa_v2_by_valkyre.jpg |
| 20:47.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's black mesa 2 |
| 20:47.28 | Kirkburn | I'm trying to find out how much memory windowblinds is taking, but I can't find it on the task manager :/ |
| 20:47.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably to pagefile/cache of some sort |
| 20:47.43 | Kirkburn | I restarted though |
| 20:47.52 | Kirkburn | Nice design |
| 20:49.03 | Rallion | gotta love the scene from Crash up in the corner |
| 20:49.34 | Rallion | ooh, and Miranda IM...there's one program that takes way more effort than I care to put in. |
| 20:49.57 | Kirkburn | I've yet to see Crash, keep meaning to |
| 20:52.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | brb |
| 20:52.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | trying to get this freaking proxy software to work |
| 20:54.11 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies: could you possibly do something about your quit messages, they're rather risque |
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| 20:54.30 | Mery | hmm http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9080/pvpemblemqg0.jpg - does it really look fitting to the name? |
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| 20:55.29 | Kirkburn | Er, yeah, I was going to mention those quit messages earlier. Weird stuff. |
| 20:55.33 | Kirkburn | Mery, what's that from? |
| 20:56.48 | Mery | Interface\PVPFrame\PVPEmblem.tga |
| 20:56.59 | Kirkburn | Ah, hehe |
| 20:57.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | huhwha |
| 21:00.05 | wereHamster | does anyone have the link to the legendary mount fix for 1.12 |
| 21:00.07 | Mery | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12732895&sid=1 |
| 21:00.34 | Mery | another way to say: Hey look, I'm in the alpha? |
| 21:00.44 | wereHamster | :) |
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| 21:02.16 | |FF|Im2good4u | that wow ui desinger is realy nice :p |
| 21:02.18 | Kirkburn | wereHamster, http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4925-1-legendary-mount-fix.html |
| 21:02.20 | |FF|Im2good4u | bye for today guys |
| 21:02.25 | Kirkburn | See ya |
| 21:02.49 | Kirkburn | Mery, yeah that does look a bit suspicious :P |
| 21:03.45 | Kaso | Kirkburn thats mine! |
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| 21:10.53 | Kaso | Kirkburn1 |
| 21:11.01 | Kirkburn1 | mmm? |
| 21:11.14 | Kaso | my mount fix is famous? |
| 21:11.38 | Kirkburn | Hehe |
| 21:12.01 | Kirkburn | I saw the word legendary originally and thought "what could this be?" |
| 21:12.11 | Kirkburn | Then I saw the update earlier today |
| 21:13.53 | Kaso | its nice to be noticed :> |
| 21:13.59 | Kirkburn | indeed |
| 21:14.19 | Kirkburn | It always brings a smile to my face seeing ClearFont being used on mod author's screenshots :) |
| 21:16.35 | Tain | I was getting all ready to yell about ClearFont breaking OmniCC until I spent thirty seconds looking into it. |
| 21:16.56 | Kirkburn | heh, what was the problem? |
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| 21:17.14 | Kirkburn | (I saw a comment on wowi about it, and then another saying they'd fixed it) |
| 21:17.21 | Tain | I guess OmniCC stored the path to fonts in the ClearFont folder |
| 21:17.35 | Kirkburn | Weird, how did it manage that? |
| 21:17.45 | Tain | It was coded to I guess. For whatever reason. |
| 21:18.06 | Tain | Deleting the OmniCC savevars fixes it, or there's a manual command in Omnin to do it also |
| 21:18.23 | Kirkburn | Intruiging |
| 21:18.54 | Kirkburn | Well, as long as I don't have to do anything ;) |
| 21:21.50 | Cairenn | okay, what the hell is TLDR? |
| 21:22.02 | Kaso | too long didnt read |
| 21:22.14 | Mikk | ... |
| 21:22.15 | Cairenn | I've managed to figure out just about every other stupid acronym people come up with ... ahh |
| 21:22.24 | Cairenn | that one had me stumped, thanks :) |
| 21:22.27 | Kaso | haha |
| 21:22.34 | Mikk | idiot acronym |
| 21:22.41 | Mikk | respond with TSIT |
| 21:22.47 | Mikk | Too Short, Ignored It |
| 21:22.48 | Cairenn | tell me there isn't a stupid one? |
| 21:23.07 | Cairenn | IBTL? FTW? FTL? they're all just dumb |
| 21:23.11 | Cairenn | :p |
| 21:23.31 | Mikk | Yep. HTH, HAND. |
| 21:23.58 | Mikk | (though that's more usenet and less mmorpg) |
| 21:24.17 | MentalPower | IBTL? |
| 21:24.20 | MentalPower | HTH? |
| 21:24.22 | MentalPower | HAND? |
| 21:24.28 | MentalPower | Those I can't figure out |
| 21:24.30 | Mikk | Hope This Helps, Have A Nice Day |
| 21:24.37 | MentalPower | especially without a context |
| 21:24.42 | Cairenn | In Before (the) Lock |
| 21:24.44 | MentalPower | nice |
| 21:25.08 | Mikk | "HTH, HAND" is most commonly appended after a particularily unhelpful answer, like "Sorry, that's not possible to begin with." |
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| 21:25.40 | MentalPower | Mikk: I got the modified hashing algorithm, I won't be locked into one for a few weeks from now at least |
| 21:25.58 | Mikk | did you check the wowwiki page? |
| 21:26.04 | MentalPower | I also managed to simplify the texture rotation code |
| 21:26.05 | Mikk | I'm finally done tweaking it :-P |
| 21:26.06 | MentalPower | nop |
| 21:26.10 | MentalPower | link? |
| 21:26.21 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/StringHash and http://www.wowwiki.com/StringHash/Analysis if you care to read :-P |
| 21:26.34 | Mikk | That took me bloody three full days. It's all your fault :-P |
| 21:27.33 | Mikk | But this time I actually thought stuff through properly, so I'm pretty confident I'm done tweaking it =) |
| 21:28.25 | Mikk | Analysing the Java hash was... "interesting"... Especially http://www.wowwiki.com/StringHash/Analysis#Collision_finding_test |
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| 21:32.07 | Kirkburn | To new arrivals - you can download the expansion UI files here: http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/BCInterface-5610.zip |
| 21:34.31 | Rallion | bah, I'm not gonna be able to log into the forums until tomorrow. which is fine, I have no compelling reason to log in. |
| 21:39.27 | jaxdahl | anything interesting in the new UI? |
| 21:42.36 | MentalPower | Mikk: finished reading it, I especially like the "The Lua memory churn becomes somewhat ugly here, consuming several hundred megabytes. Even attempting A-Z with the same length brings a machine with 1GB RAM to its knees." comment |
| 21:43.16 | MentalPower | Kirkburn: we need to get Beladona to put those up on WDN |
| 21:43.18 | Kirkburn | jaxdahl, three new additions mainly |
| 21:43.30 | Kirkburn | Indeed we do, we need Beladona first, though :P |
| 21:44.13 | Kirkburn | PVPFrame (team PvP UI), ArenaFrame (similar to the BG join stuff), Jewelcrafting UI (er, speaks for itself) |
| 21:46.03 | Thrae | This StringHash is faster then Lua's internal hash implementation even for long strings? |
| 21:46.19 | jaxdahl | yea.. no reason to overhaul the UI |
| 21:47.05 | Kirkburn | Some parts have been recoded apparently, but it's hard to tell how much without a side by side comparison |
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| 21:51.24 | Mikk | Thrae: "Lua's internal hash"? Which one is that? |
| 21:51.37 | Mikk | The one used to index members of tables? Hell no |
| 21:52.02 | MentalPower | if only that one were available to us |
| 21:52.18 | Mikk | I'm comparing it to a Lua implementation of the Java String.hashCode (aka "31") hash |
| 21:52.55 | AnduinLothar | Satellite v1.5 committed |
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| 21:54.40 | MentalPower | Mikk: I found a typo in your function |
| 21:54.49 | MentalPower | (counter*8161, 4294967279) + -- 2^32 - 17: Prime! (counter*8065 is at most a 48-bit number |
| 21:54.55 | Mikk | gah =) |
| 21:55.05 | MentalPower | which one is it? |
| 21:55.07 | ckknight_ | Dolby-wowi, ping |
| 21:55.43 | Mikk | MentalPower: the comment is wrong |
| 21:55.46 | Mikk | i've fixed it |
| 22:01.21 | Corrodias | yeah, black mesa isn't a bad one |
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| 22:13.17 | MentalPower | Mikk: question "string.byte(text,i+1) or (len-i+256))" why isin't the "len-i" part "len-i+1" |
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| 22:21.25 | Mikk | why would it need to be? |
| 22:21.46 | Mikk | i just want a unique number there that makes the output be different for different lengths |
| 22:21.54 | Mikk | pretty standard hash padding |
| 22:23.05 | MentalPower | allrighty then |
| 22:23.37 | Mikk | in a C implementation, I would have had to skip the +256 and it would still have worked, but it felt so much better to do it, so I did =) |
| 22:24.34 | MentalPower | ok |
| 22:26.45 | Mikk | buggerbuggerbugger.... i'm forgetting something.... |
| 22:26.53 | Mikk | i just know i am |
| 22:27.38 | Mikk | upped wowbench version number.. tagged in svn... uploaded to sf.net and distributed. wrote news. uploaded to wowi. fixed release notes on wowwiki .... |
| 22:27.43 | Mikk | WHAT AM I FORGETTING? o.O |
| 22:28.01 | Cide | removing the debug code :P |
| 22:28.10 | Mikk | always =) |
| 22:28.17 | Cide | I always do that :( |
| 22:28.33 | Mikk | i had a debug breakpoint hardcoded into SendChatMessage() two versions ago =) |
| 22:28.54 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.20 | Corrodias | http://orz.4chan.org/cgl/res/67219.html |
| 22:33.23 | Kirkburn | You and your 4chan, eh |
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| 22:42.57 | Mikk | HAH! Now I remember. I forgot to update http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench/Progress |
| 22:49.41 | Shadowed | got a few api's that need to be implemented i see :p |
| 22:52.10 | Mikk | only if someone tries to use them :-P |
| 22:52.40 | Mikk | I implement APIs when I need them. I'm not preemptively trying to do all of it. And I hope noone else is :-P |
| 22:53.21 | Shadowed | sure :p |
| 22:55.51 | Kaso | Wheres the /whisper function i cant find it :< |
| 22:58.07 | Rallion | and now, instead of working on any of my several current projects, I must try to five-star 6 more songs in Guitar Hero...\ |
| 22:58.16 | MentalPower | "mplement a very bloaty item scanner to run on a select couple of items in-game and get all tooltip info / everything else that comes out of APIs, and save to a table to use in WoWBench for item testing purposes. Using an existing ItemDB probably won't provide enough info. --Mikk 05:59, 31 July 2006 (EDT)" <---What exactly are you looking for here, and how many items are we talking about? |
| 22:58.44 | MentalPower | cause I have a "almost" fully written ItemDB AddOn that records everything it can find about an item |
| 22:58.56 | Mikk | oo |
| 22:59.36 | Mikk | I dunno... how many items would be useful to have in WoWBench today? |
| 22:59.53 | Mikk | I'm thinking on the scale 10 - 100 |
| 23:00.06 | Mikk | I mean... it's not as if it's emulating weapon procs, char stats.... |
| 23:00.17 | MentalPower | and here I was thinking 7000ish (the number of items in my itemcache) |
| 23:00.20 | Mikk | haha |
| 23:01.07 | Mikk | that sounds interesting though... "everything it can find out" |
| 23:01.16 | Mikk | that includes full tooltips and stuff then, i take it |
| 23:01.39 | jaxdahl | haha: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12052520&pageNo=2&sid=1#36 |
| 23:01.45 | Mikk | or do you parse them into something more compressable? |
| 23:02.01 | MentalPower | well, currently (looking at my code) it scans the entire tooltip and parses it compressing its contents somewhat (fully decompressible tho) |
| 23:02.16 | MentalPower | the only thing I don't currently store (and that can be easily fixed) is stack size |
| 23:03.20 | Cide | Mikk: just parse the itemcache :) |
| 23:03.33 | MentalPower | or do that |
| 23:03.57 | Cide | though, you don't get spell info easily... |
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| 23:06.47 | Mikk | ahwell... i don't care enough to fiddle with that right now. i have too much else on my plate. |
| 23:06.58 | Mikk | thanks for mentioning it though MentalPower. i'll keep it in mind =) |
| 23:07.31 | MentalPower | like I said, mine is prety much written, just tell me what data you want and how |
| 23:09.27 | Mikk | thankee much. =) |
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| 23:20.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Quick question.. |
| 23:21.39 | ScytheBlade1 | MinimapZoneTextButton:RegisterForClicks("RightButtonDown", "LeftButtonDown"); MinimapZoneTextButton:SetScript("OnClick", MMM_OnClick); |
| 23:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | In MMM_OnClick, why isn't arg1 being populated with "RightButtonDown" or "LeftButtonDown"? |
| 23:23.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ... never mind |
| 23:24.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I should just be looking for "RightButton", not "RightButtonDown" |
| 23:25.49 | MentalPower | yup |
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| 23:43.25 | End | odd, the issue people mentioned with dual core processors and the debugprofile functions? |
| 23:43.32 | End | I just got it with a non-dual core processor |
| 23:43.59 | End | my code took 5, 13, 4 and then 12189250 ms to run |
