| 00:00.01 | Qzot | O.O |
| 00:01.09 | Kirkburn1 | Can I turn Qzot black and blue as well, pwetty pwease? |
| 00:01.43 | Qzot | Hey! |
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| 00:26.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | so... 1.12 is tomorrow? :O |
| 00:26.18 | Cairenn | appears so |
| 00:26.18 | Cairenn | we'll know tomorrow |
| 00:26.18 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 00:26.18 | Cairenn | hi AnduinLothar :p |
| 00:26.19 | AnduinLothar | so maybe no patch, eh? |
| 00:26.19 | AnduinLothar | sux to be blizz |
| 00:26.19 | AnduinLothar | oh well, it'll give em another week to procrastinate |
| 00:26.19 | AnduinLothar | i didn't really wanna test MapNotes anyway |
| 00:26.19 | Cairenn | http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/9607117.htm suggests yes tomorrow |
| 00:26.19 | AnduinLothar | odd... 1am isn't extended.. |
| 00:26.19 | AnduinLothar | 11am* |
| 00:26.19 | Cairenn | earlier, not later |
| 00:26.19 | Cairenn | check the start time |
| 00:26.20 | AnduinLothar | 2am rather than 3? |
| 00:26.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 00:26.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | they delayed maintenance "for a patch" |
| 00:26.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | er extended |
| 00:26.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | so hopefully 1.12 |
| 00:26.21 | Cairenn | ummm, AnduinLothar? it normally starts at 4am |
| 00:26.21 | Cairenn | mind you, that's only 2 hrs, not 3 |
| 00:26.21 | AnduinLothar | oh right. pvp stops at 3 |
| 00:26.21 | wereHamster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-tech-support&t=1039882 suggests that it is 1.12 |
| 00:26.27 | Cairenn | as I say though, we'll find out tomorrow ;) |
| 00:26.29 | Nightdew | are hunter attacks so different from all other classes |
| 00:26.59 | Nightdew | You can "cast" Raptor Strike |
| 00:26.59 | Nightdew | without it throwing errors |
| 00:27.04 | Nightdew | what kind of bs is that |
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| 00:27.50 | Kirov | Nightdew? |
| 00:28.01 | Nightdew | yes? |
| 00:28.19 | Kirov | What do you mean you can cast Raptor Strike? |
| 00:28.42 | Nightdew | You can have raptor strike on your action bar |
| 00:28.51 | Nightdew | click it |
| 00:29.06 | Kirov | You mean like out of range? There are warrior abilities similar to it. It's because Raptor Strike is a "next attack" cast, not an instant cast. |
| 00:29.07 | Nightdew | and there wont be any error feedback |
| 00:30.10 | Nightdew | well shit |
| 00:30.12 | Nightdew | lol |
| 00:30.27 | wereHamster | Isn't it like Herouc Strike? |
| 00:31.25 | Kirov | Yeah |
| 00:31.35 | Kirov | I think there's another warrior ability too |
| 00:33.19 | Nightdew | darn.. its gonne be hard to track those i bet |
| 00:33.38 | wereHamster | why track? |
| 00:34.16 | Nightdew | its what my lib does |
| 00:34.27 | Nightdew | which it then uses in another addon im building |
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| 00:48.34 | snurre | Raptor Strike is the exact same as Heroic Strike (with a 6sec cooldown) *slow* |
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| 01:25.30 | cladhaire | holy shit |
| 01:25.35 | cladhaire | PerfectRaid's custom sorting is pimp-shit :P |
| 01:26.05 | cladhaire | praid sort custom warrior healer mygroup odd even |
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| 02:37.18 | Iriel | Evening all. |
| 02:37.41 | Cairenn | hey Iriel |
| 02:38.19 | cladhaire | evening Iriel |
| 02:39.03 | cladhaire | how are things on the west coast? |
| 02:42.13 | AnduinLothar | pretty unexciting |
| 02:42.39 | cladhaire | heh |
| 02:42.45 | cladhaire | the weather was gorgeous today |
| 02:42.58 | cladhaire | and i slept really well, so I'm hoping for a good week :P |
| 02:43.32 | Iriel | Things are pretty normal here, though traffic home was more obnoxious than usual |
| 02:44.29 | Iriel | I'm assuming tomorrow is almost certainly patch day? |
| 02:45.01 | cladhaire | It appears so |
| 02:45.03 | gnorlish | you assume correctly |
| 02:45.04 | Cairenn | posts suggest so, yes |
| 02:45.05 | cladhaire | Naethara posted as such |
| 02:45.40 | Iriel | Time to see how many things I forgot to set up in my reinstall then 8-) |
| 02:45.50 | Tem | my crash threads were ignored |
| 02:45.53 | Cide | current information available greatly strengthens the assumption, yes |
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| 02:46.18 | Iriel | Tem: 8-( I read them, if that helps. |
| 02:46.28 | Tem | heh |
| 02:46.36 | cladhaire | Tem: The bugfix is "don't do that" =) |
| 02:46.38 | cladhaire | for now |
| 02:46.41 | Cide | I read them, and laughed manically for a bit |
| 02:46.48 | Cairenn | he's been more than just a little swamped of late. it was buried for 3 days. and he was home sick today. |
| 02:46.53 | Tem | cladhaire, you have no idea how many times I've seen that response |
| 02:46.58 | Tem | Cairenn, ah, that makes sense |
| 02:47.15 | Cide | s/manically/maniacally/ |
| 02:49.30 | Iriel | Hm, interesting, firing up wowtest, then hitting quit at teh login screen breaks my computer |
| 02:50.11 | cladhaire | Iriel: That's no good. |
| 02:50.18 | cladhaire | Have anyone played wtih the new blizz raid ui dynamic frame creation? |
| 02:50.31 | Iriel | Not really, I hope the problem doesn't persist if I actually log in |
| 02:51.13 | cladhaire | I'm trying to think of a creative way to register the other three clicks I need on each button in the raid pullout group without needing to hook the getframe function, but i'm not sure there's a better reason |
| 02:57.25 | Kyahx|afk | 1.12 tomarrow? |
| 02:57.28 | Kyahx|afk | Officially? |
| 02:57.35 | Tem | yes |
| 02:57.47 | Iriel | Grr, test servers down |
| 02:58.25 | Tem | much, much love for new content |
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| 03:00.09 | cladhaire | ~taocp |
| 03:00.11 | purl | it has been said that taocp is the bible of computer scientists, or the art of computer programming ( http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/taocp.html ) |
| 03:00.17 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 03:00.20 | cladhaire | have anyone read volume four? |
| 03:00.34 | cladhaire | i'm trying to decide how best to purchase 2,3 and 4. |
| 03:03.13 | Iriel | I have volumes 1-3, but dip into them rather than read outright |
| 03:03.25 | Iriel | Though when 4 came out they re-did 1-3, I have the older versions |
| 03:06.39 | cladhaire | I have a copy of one somewhere around here |
| 03:07.07 | cladhaire | but i'm a collector, i dont like mismatched things in a set.. i'm kind of anal retentive at times :P |
| 03:07.26 | Cairenn | you? nevah! |
| 03:07.35 | Iriel | Well, it just feels wrong to have a mismatched set. |
| 03:07.42 | Iriel | So I can hardly blame you |
| 03:11.09 | cladhaire | well i think its time to head to bed. |
| 03:11.13 | cladhaire | Have a good night everyone! |
| 03:14.06 | MentalPower | night clad|sleep |
| 03:15.40 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
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| 03:16.46 | cladhaire | apparently irc doesn't want me to leave |
| 03:16.47 | cladhaire | goodight again |
| 03:28.46 | zespri_work | Knuth is outdated, you better spend you time on Sedgewick instead |
| 03:28.55 | Iriel | I have that one also |
| 03:29.05 | Iriel | But Knuth is a classic |
| 03:29.06 | MentalPower | anyone know of a Lua profiler? |
| 03:29.13 | Iriel | and has a lot more than just algorithms |
| 03:30.06 | Thrae | MentalPower: LuaProfiler, and tekSupport / DebugProfiler using Fubar. I suggest the latter. |
| 03:30.21 | jaxdahl | Iriel, fun day tomorrow |
| 03:30.27 | MentalPower | thanks Thrae |
| 03:31.47 | Iriel | Well, without any test realms tonight it's going to be less fun than normal for me |
| 03:36.11 | MentalPower | Thrae: where would I find the latter, I've looked in the WoWI downloads section and can't seem to find it |
| 03:36.27 | zespri_work | it seems that blizz for some reason made a great deal of this patch... May be those who pvp much are mostly excited |
| 03:37.27 | zespri_work | altough the Arena idea (small teams) is neat for BC |
| 03:38.26 | zespri_work | And I need all my will power now to level my 55 through to 60. I started playing a lower level alt again because the colser to 60 the more boring =) |
| 03:41.19 | Corrodias | hmm, isn't the downtime tonight? |
| 03:41.22 | zespri_work | Wrom historic and general education point of view, Knuth is, no doubt about that, is good. Sedgewick, on the other hand is more practical in the modern world. I have both of them too =) |
| 03:41.31 | Cairenn | goes down at 2am pacific |
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| 04:16.06 | jaxdahl | zespri_work, it's a whole new game at 60 |
| 04:16.21 | Tem | wewt |
| 04:16.31 | Tem | first fankriss kill |
| 04:16.35 | Tem | lol, he's easy |
| 04:18.24 | Kirov | fankriss is mostly just a dps gear fight |
| 04:18.29 | jaxdahl | yea |
| 04:18.33 | jaxdahl | gotta get the worms down fast |
| 04:19.52 | Tem | we had 7 pallies |
| 04:19.58 | Tem | so they were always stunned |
| 04:20.03 | Tem | it worked out very well |
| 04:20.08 | jaxdahl | that works |
| 04:20.09 | jaxdahl | https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/ |
| 04:20.15 | Tem | only took us 2 pulls to learn |
| 04:20.36 | Tem | (and some jackass hunter pulled adds on us at 20%) |
| 04:21.06 | Kirov | Tem - We got adds every attempt. |
| 04:21.10 | Kirov | semi-unavoidable. |
| 04:21.38 | jaxdahl | the first few times we did it, we always got adds from the hall for some reason |
| 04:21.44 | jaxdahl | and it screwed us up |
| 04:21.46 | Tem | if you're where you're supposed to be, you won't pull adds |
| 04:21.48 | jaxdahl | now it doesn'thappen to us anymore |
| 04:22.04 | Tem | ~moredots |
| 04:22.06 | purl | Hit it like you mean it! |
| 04:23.10 | Tem | ~moredots |
| 04:23.12 | purl | Hit it like you mean it! |
| 04:23.30 | Tem | ~moredots |
| 04:23.32 | purl | You lose fifty DKP again, because you didn't know what he f*ck to do! |
| 04:38.30 | Tem | zomg, it's raining brood rep |
| 04:40.36 | MentalPower | GNight guys |
| 04:40.46 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 04:42.07 | Tem | woot, no longer hated |
| 04:43.08 | Cairenn | grats |
| 04:43.33 | zespri_work | jaxdahl, yeah, the one I don't have taste for =) |
| 04:52.35 | Tem | scary |
| 04:52.41 | Tem | Huhu |
| 04:54.52 | Osagasu | so what all is breaking tomorrow? |
| 04:57.34 | Shadowed | 1.12 |
| 04:57.54 | Osagasu | Well I hope the patch itself doesn't break. |
| 05:06.37 | Cairenn | night sedatedChipmunk |
| 05:09.32 | Tem | make the migraine go away |
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| 05:10.39 | Cairenn | night Tem|Sleep |
| 05:36.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow. Someone setup an IRC channel for my battlegroup. |
| 05:36.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Imagine all of the best trolls and epeen statements you've EVER seen, throw into an IRC channel with (mostly) proper grammar. |
| 05:39.11 | Cairenn | trolls + epeen != proper grammer |
| 05:39.27 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 05:39.30 | ScytheBlade1 | It's... creepy |
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| 06:07.54 | s|loup | hi |
| 06:09.13 | dukeku | hi |
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| 06:21.35 | s|loup | hey anyone knows if 1.12 will release today? |
| 06:22.09 | Shadowed | yes |
| 06:23.24 | s|loup | yes it will be released today, or yes you know if it will be released? ^^ |
| 06:25.10 | Gngsk | the second one |
| 06:25.56 | Shadowed | yes it'll be released today |
| 06:26.36 | s|loup | ah ok thanks ;) |
| 06:30.34 | Corrodias | is there a significant amount of addon incompatibility to be expected? |
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| 06:35.29 | Shadowed | not likely |
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| 07:06.46 | jaxdahl | any word on KLH TM? are they moving to the new blizz channel model? |
| 07:07.29 | Shadowed | probably |
| 07:10.31 | jaxdahl | i wonder how efficient it will be |
| 07:10.41 | jaxdahl | my guild doesn't use KLH TM |
| 07:11.04 | jaxdahl | but if some people are using it for some reason, will WoW gracefully drop it if i have no addons subscribed to the prefix it uses? |
| 07:11.12 | jaxdahl | and not use much CPU |
| 07:11.47 | jaxdahl | before, you could pretty much not get KLH messages if you weren't in the KLH channel, but now it'll get sent to you anyway |
| 07:12.08 | AnduinLothar | Addon Channels ar not equal to Chat Channels |
| 07:12.44 | jaxdahl | that much is obvious.. |
| 07:12.45 | jaxdahl | what is your point? |
| 07:15.09 | zespri_work | what is KLH |
| 07:15.24 | Shadowed | KLSomething hate meter |
| 07:16.04 | zespri_work | cheers |
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| 07:26.33 | jaxdahl | KLH threat meters |
| 07:26.40 | jaxdahl | addon used by chob guilds to measure threat |
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| 07:40.46 | zespri_work | . |
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| 07:56.42 | Kaso | Is there a 1.12 final patch notes around in US yet? |
| 07:58.55 | Shadowed | havn't checked, but wouldnt they be on EU first |
| 08:01.24 | s|loup | no eu will get 1 day later |
| 08:01.56 | s|loup | us on tuesday, eu on wednsday |
| 08:03.04 | Shadowed | ah |
| 08:07.26 | AnduinLothar | so.. when's the wiki main page being changed? |
| 08:07.33 | AnduinLothar | today would eb good, with the patch :) |
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| 08:17.08 | Shadowed | Mahaha is actually pretty smart |
| 08:17.12 | Shadowed | errr, wrong window! |
| 08:18.08 | Industrial | can anyone show me a hunter build? for leveling up |
| 08:25.08 | Industrial | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter_builds |
| 08:25.09 | Industrial | zomg |
| 08:25.10 | Industrial | :o |
| 08:25.30 | Shadowed | hrm, 1.11is listed under previous patches now |
| 08:29.24 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 08:29.39 | Shadowed | can't see 1.12 patches besides the PTR though |
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| 09:12.54 | Industrial | do turtle pets eat alot? |
| 09:13.09 | Industrial | or is there no difference between pets |
| 09:13.35 | Shadowed | no difference |
| 09:13.47 | Shadowed | what food they eat will change, but not how much they eat |
| 09:13.55 | Industrial | hmmm |
| 09:14.11 | Industrial | then my feedomatic must be borked |
| 09:14.16 | Industrial | itwont stop pinging |
| 09:14.17 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:14.25 | Shadowed | probably |
| 09:17.08 | Industrial | im so loving this 5/5 improved aspect of the hawk o_O |
| 09:24.19 | AnduinLothar | so.. what addon measures mem usage w/o a bar liek titan or fubar? |
| 09:26.40 | Industrial | AnduinLothar, most fubar addons dont need fubar to work |
| 09:26.57 | Industrial | they will have a minimap icon |
| 09:27.04 | Industrial | fubar is just a shell anyway :P |
| 09:29.27 | Industrial | hm im loving this turtle pet |
| 09:29.44 | Industrial | at lv 15 I can take it to tank more then one mob while I just pop them one by one :P |
| 09:46.24 | AnduinLothar | 15m |
| 10:00.30 | Corrodias | the pets generally perform within 5% of each other, except that the turtle has his long cooldown shell shield, which doesn't help him generate aggro but will help him survive multiple mobs |
| 10:00.43 | AnduinLothar | servers down |
| 10:04.09 | Corrodias | you know what they say: one you go summoned succubi, you'll never go back |
| 10:04.12 | Corrodias | *once |
| 10:05.05 | wereHamster | if I have someone on the ignore list, will it also ignore his SendAddonMessage()-messages? |
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| 10:09.07 | Corrodias | AL: you're right. that's not very nice. |
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| 10:58.57 | Mikk | Eh, great... Iriel's 1.12 API changes post already expired |
| 11:01.21 | AnduinLothar | hey mikk, when's the wiki page finalizing? |
| 11:02.06 | zenzelezz | move the search box on the wiki up so I don't have to scroll down to see it :-o |
| 11:02.22 | AnduinLothar | thatd be nice.. |
| 11:02.33 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Proposed_new_sidebar |
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| 11:10.43 | Mikk | AnduinLothar: Main page you mean? The admins are being weenies and putting it off. Latest bid is sep 1. |
| 11:11.19 | Mikk | I can't for the life of me understand what the point is of "warning people" that there'll be a change and delaying. |
| 11:11.46 | Mikk | Maybe if it turned into something WORSE but .. um.. that's not the case :-P |
| 11:13.31 | AnduinLothar | kk |
| 11:13.32 | AnduinLothar | night |
| 11:15.04 | AnduinLothar | are you in Denmark, mikk? |
| 11:15.18 | Mikk | Sweden |
| 11:15.21 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 11:15.26 | AnduinLothar | interesting |
| 11:15.32 | Mikk | Not to me =) |
| 11:15.39 | Mikk | gnite |
| 11:33.25 | Corrodias | somebody in LFG mentioned a trinket that he said turns you into a... what did he say.. "turns you into a tiger man". do you know what he was talking about? |
| 11:33.57 | zenzelezz | tiger man? o_O What side was this on? |
| 11:34.41 | Corrodias | horde |
| 11:37.51 | Mikk | It's a drop off of the tiger boss in ZG |
| 11:38.22 | Mikk | Has a % chance of turning you into a tiger when fighting someone; increases attack power by quite a lot |
| 11:38.30 | Mikk | Works for both melee and ranged damage |
| 11:38.57 | Mikk | (Possibly not for magical damage but I don't know someone that's tried yet. It's not as if attack power helps magical damage a whole lot) |
| 11:39.23 | Mikk | It's also hella annoying because you start making the same noises as the tiger boss :-) |
| 11:40.25 | zenzelezz | hm, I can't seem to see this trinket on Thottbot/Allakhazam |
| 11:40.41 | Corrodias | neither can i |
| 11:41.16 | Corrodias | there's a main hand fist weapon with "primal blessing" on it |
| 11:41.59 | Corrodias | GRR! i'm starting to consider a wireless mouse. this cord pisses me off! >_< |
| 11:42.30 | Corrodias | it's too firm! i can't put it anywhere on my desk because it will, in some position, push back on the mouse |
| 11:43.20 | Corrodias | ah, i may have just found a decent position after all |
| 11:44.48 | Corrodias | ooh, ZF change: "The respawn of the 2 Troll/1 Basilisk patrollers should now be 2 hours.". allelujah. we had those things reappear on us a few times. |
| 11:45.11 | zenzelezz | "Grants a small chance when ranged or melee damage is dealt to infuse the wielder with a blessing from the Primal Gods. Ranged and melee attack power increased by 300 for 12 seconds." |
| 11:45.31 | zenzelezz | sounds ilke he might be talking about the 2-piece set bonus for Thekal's/Arlokk's fist weapons |
| 11:46.02 | Corrodias | ah. allakhazam doesn't show set bonuses on tooltips, i guess. :( |
| 11:46.14 | zenzelezz | http://wow.allakhazam.com/spell.html?wspell=24255 |
| 11:46.33 | Corrodias | "V key functionality has been improved in several ways." -- er, what is the V key supposed to do? |
| 11:46.46 | Gngsk | unit name plates |
| 11:47.05 | zenzelezz | perhaps now they won't juggle around so crazily when there's many mobs :-o |
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| 11:49.07 | Corrodias | hm. my only issue with name plates is when (very, very rarely) they are really huge for some reason |
| 11:49.13 | Corrodias | name billboards |
| 11:52.09 | zenzelezz | that sounds more like when the names mess up and get huge, not nameplates |
| 11:52.19 | zenzelezz | nameplates being when they display a health bar as well as name |
| 11:52.42 | zenzelezz | at least I've never had the huge-name bug with nameplates |
| 11:53.09 | Corrodias | oh, THOSE |
| 11:53.12 | zenzelezz | "Shield Slam: This ability will sometimes no longer remove more than one beneficial effect from the target." -- is it just me or is this sentence confusing? |
| 11:53.22 | Corrodias | i haven't seen those in ages. i turned them off first thing, man. |
| 11:53.44 | Corrodias | i don't even really remember what they look like. |
| 11:54.17 | Corrodias | sometimes no longer remove more than one? so it will sometimes remove only one? i wonder if they meant to say that it will no longer sometimes remove more than one. |
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| 11:58.21 | zenzelezz | http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/nameplates.jpg |
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| 12:02.08 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:02.11 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 12:02.27 | Maldivia | hmm, anyond have an md5 for the patch file ? |
| 12:05.27 | zenzelezz | sounds like they gimped ZF in 1.12 o_O |
| 12:05.53 | Maldivia | they did a bit |
| 12:06.34 | zespri | WoW-1.11.2.5464-to-1.12.0.5595-enUS-patch.exe;17122507;2045656319CCD3071AA46228F99AC685 |
| 12:06.56 | zespri | first number is the size |
| 12:06.57 | wereHamster | ZF? |
| 12:07.17 | zenzelezz | "The Need Before Greed and Group Loot countdown timers will now have a 3 minute countdown when there is a bind on acquire item on the corpse. This should allow a bit more time in making a decision to roll for an item." -- nice |
| 12:07.43 | wereHamster | indeed.. but who rolls on BoP items? |
| 12:08.13 | zenzelezz | PUGs |
| 12:08.33 | Maldivia | zespri: thanks, got the same now :) |
| 12:10.45 | Maldivia | wereHamster: you dont roll on BoP items when running 5-mans ? |
| 12:12.08 | wereHamster | we all pass and then decide.. |
| 12:12.59 | wereHamster | Temporary item buffs (...) will no longer persist through zoning or logging out due to technical issues. - yeah, technical issues, we all know them |
| 12:13.11 | zenzelezz | like I said, PUGs... they all love to roll |
| 12:13.11 | zespri | huh? |
| 12:13.43 | zespri | wereHamster, what do you mean? |
| 12:23.07 | s|loup | i think he ment the lag problems while having the temporary item buffs in 1.11 |
| 12:25.49 | Corrodias | it may be more prevalent on PvE realms, but the "common" rule is to pass on BoP |
| 12:26.35 | Corrodias | that keeps things speedy but works like master loot for important items, but the system certainly has its flaws |
| 12:26.37 | zenzelezz | in my experience that depends entirely on whether or not there's a disenchanter in the team |
| 12:27.28 | Corrodias | i've not yet been in a group that did not use the pass on BoP rule, and only one time have i seen someone speak against it. |
| 12:27.28 | Legorol | hello folks, 1.12 out? |
| 12:27.41 | Corrodias | hello, Legorol, please insert $25 |
| 12:27.57 | Legorol | nothing happened... |
| 12:28.22 | Corrodias | by the way, in response to that nameplates pic: omg |
| 12:34.12 | Corrodias | i think it's time i go to bed. 'ni |
| 12:35.00 | Corrodias | oh, sure. the alliance gets another pretty race (at least by horde standards). |
| 12:37.38 | Industrial | Corrodias, hm wha? |
| 12:37.55 | Corrodias | yer dranei |
| 12:38.00 | Industrial | meh |
| 12:38.02 | Corrodias | draenei? |
| 12:38.07 | Corrodias | draeaeaeaeae |
| 12:38.10 | Industrial | gnomes and dwarves are fugly |
| 12:38.17 | Industrial | :P |
| 12:38.30 | Corrodias | yes, but then they have the advantage of being small |
| 12:38.39 | Industrial | true |
| 12:39.03 | Corrodias | let me tell you, a bear druid tank has his own problem of dealing with a huge bear ass on his screen |
| 12:40.52 | Gngsk | heh |
| 12:47.19 | Industrial | lol |
| 12:55.20 | Corrodias | i'm trying to give myself a crash course on warcraft history by reading things on this wiki, but it's getting more complex instead of more understandable as i go along >_> |
| 13:00.46 | Cide | www.ctmod.net <- updated for 1.12 if anyone cares |
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| 13:01.11 | Corrodias | well, i care. i have a couple of those |
| 13:01.12 | Maldivia | Cide: not yet, 1.12 isn't until tomorrow :) |
| 13:01.30 | Cide | go away, european! |
| 13:01.32 | Cide | oh, wait. |
| 13:01.35 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 13:01.50 | Maldivia | Cide: did you rewrite the "hidden channel" to use SendAddonMessagE? |
| 13:02.02 | Cide | yes |
| 13:02.08 | Maldivia | using CTRA as prefix ? |
| 13:02.24 | Corrodias | using "your mom" as prefix. |
| 13:02.38 | zenzelezz | so... will 1.12 and 1.11 CTRA cooperate? |
| 13:03.07 | Cide | nno |
| 13:03.08 | MentalPower|Clas | OMG... FilePlanet has AuctioneerComplete for download http://www.fileplanet.com/165648/160000/fileinfo/World-of-Warcraft---AuctioneerComplete |
| 13:03.08 | Cide | no* |
| 13:03.15 | Cide | Maldivia: yep |
| 13:03.30 | zenzelezz | didn't expect so; will have to convince everyone to upgrade I guess |
| 13:03.39 | Maldivia | morning Cairenn :) |
| 13:03.45 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 13:03.50 | zenzelezz | looks like your bird was right this time |
| 13:04.03 | Cairenn | had to be sooner or later |
| 13:04.07 | MentalPower|Univ | morning Cair |
| 13:04.15 | Cairenn | hi MP |
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| 13:06.49 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Beladona -> "I started out with nothing. I have most of it left. | Paste Code: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | 1.12 patch today, downoaders - start your engines! |
| 13:06.57 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Beladona -> "I started out with nothing. I have most of it left. | Paste Code: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | 1.12 patch today, downloaders - start your engines! |
| 13:07.06 | Cairenn | lol |
| 13:07.38 | Maldivia | got the patch downloaded already, but waiting until tomorrow to patch :) |
| 13:07.55 | MentalPower|Univ | Maldivia: why? |
| 13:08.05 | Maldivia | MP: So I can play on the EU reams today |
| 13:08.37 | Maldivia | btw, anyone been on the beta forums lately? |
| 13:09.08 | MentalPower|Univ | I thought the enUS and enGB patches we're incompatible with each other |
| 13:09.45 | Maldivia | They are, but using the US version of the game, thus need the US patches :) |
| 13:10.03 | Maldivia | well, you can connect with any localization to any server |
| 13:10.10 | Corrodias | where can i start downloading the 1.12 patch? |
| 13:10.11 | Maldivia | as long as the version number is correct |
| 13:10.28 | Maldivia | Corrodias: start the game, and it'll download it for you :) |
| 13:10.44 | Corrodias | you know, i really rather dislike that method |
| 13:10.44 | Cairenn | oooor .... http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/#p1.12.0 ;) |
| 13:11.00 | Cairenn | shhhhhh |
| 13:11.13 | Cairenn | I wouldn't ever give out links to mirrors |
| 13:11.13 | Corrodias | their poorly coded bittorrent client goes very slowly and gimps my internet connection |
| 13:11.31 | Maldivia | hmm, they already have GB version on it :) |
| 13:16.49 | Maldivia | ohh, the EU patches are up on the Blizzard patch servers already :) |
| 13:18.21 | Beladona | sooner I can get the download, the faster I can do a compare |
| 13:18.32 | Beladona | although there was no change since the last PTR |
| 13:18.35 | Beladona | or shouldn't be |
| 13:18.42 | Corrodias | a real torrent that i can load into a normal client. just what i wanted! |
| 13:21.34 | MentalPower|Univ | I was just about to say that I have the .torrent file |
| 13:25.34 | Corrodias | your mom has the torrent file |
| 13:25.59 | MentalPower|Univ | that was uncalled for... |
| 13:26.03 | zenzelezz | [Your Mom Is The Immovable Object] |
| 13:26.10 | zenzelezz | somehow that's one of the things I remember best from US-Arthas |
| 13:34.55 | Legorol | Maldivia: how do you download EU patch? |
| 13:35.39 | Maldivia | either from the mirror Cairenn posted, or directly from the http mirrors, the downloader uses for non p2p transfer |
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| 13:36.36 | TS|Skrom_ | ahhh another beautiful day of pretending to work while I chat on irc |
| 13:36.45 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 13:40.19 | Legorol | Maldivia: yeah but i mean how do you get it from Blizz servers? |
| 13:40.41 | Legorol | what i mean is, how do you know what's the URL for the EU version of the downloads? |
| 13:40.47 | Legorol | since the EU downloader isn't even out yet |
| 13:41.18 | Maldivia | $i = 0; while (file exists) { download("http://80.239.178.126/WoW-1.11.2.5464-to-1.12.0.5595-enGB-patch.exe/$i") $i++ } |
| 13:41.46 | Maldivia | and then glue the files into one in the end :) |
| 13:42.19 | Legorol | ok but what i mean is, how do you know that's the URL for it? |
| 13:42.31 | Legorol | that's what i mean all along: where does the info for the URL come from? |
| 13:44.30 | Maldivia | from previous patch downloadesr :) |
| 13:44.34 | Maldivia | they follow the same pattern |
| 13:44.49 | Maldivia | guessed it was the same patch revision as latest PTR |
| 13:45.23 | Legorol | ok that makes sense |
| 13:45.31 | Maldivia | the http mirrors are set up as if it was BT aswell, with chunks of 256k |
| 13:45.37 | Legorol | i just took a peek, the URL is amazingly in the downloader as plain text.. |
| 13:45.38 | Maldivia | hence the /$i at the end |
| 13:45.42 | Legorol | yes i know that part |
| 13:45.56 | Legorol | i was just curious about how you got the URL, i didn't realize it's in plain text in the downloader |
| 13:46.16 | Maldivia | there's a list of 6 or so mirrors in the downloader, plainly visible :) |
| 13:46.21 | Legorol | yeah i see it now |
| 13:51.29 | Cairenn | Patch Notes, for those that can't otherwise get to them yet: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=27761#post27761 |
| 13:51.39 | zenzelezz | official? |
| 13:51.39 | Beladona | monkeys! |
| 13:51.54 | haste | hot! |
| 13:52.03 | Cairenn | from the patcher :p |
| 13:52.11 | Cairenn | don't get much more offical than that |
| 13:52.55 | Beladona | guess this means I need to get my update out for my addons |
| 13:52.58 | Beladona | damnit |
| 13:53.03 | Beladona | and I was happy being lazy |
| 13:53.29 | Beladona | I do have one issue that maybe you guys can help me with |
| 13:53.39 | Beladona | I have an honor bar, just lke my exp bar |
| 13:53.49 | Beladona | it shows your progress towards next rank, etc |
| 13:54.02 | Beladona | your current rank, and next rank is displayed via tooltip, along with some other info |
| 13:54.18 | Beladona | my issue is, the current rank isn't showing right when you don't have a rank |
| 13:54.28 | Beladona | I know its a stupid error |
| 13:58.25 | TS|Skrom | sweet |
| 13:58.36 | TS|Skrom | Honor kills dimish at 10% instead of 25%! |
| 13:59.01 | JoshBorke | Fixed a bug that caused some non-combat pets to be referred to as Minions instead of Pets. Mini Diablo however has escaped this fate and will continue to be referred to as a Minion. |
| 13:59.02 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 13:59.12 | Cairenn | hehe, yeah |
| 13:59.30 | JoshBorke | Fixed a bug where large amounts of damage could go negative. o.O |
| 13:59.33 | Cairenn | Beladona: no idea, then again when do I ever actually have a clue? |
| 14:00.26 | Beladona | haha |
| 14:01.02 | Maldivia | JoshBorke: hehe, could be nice, getting hit by Sapphiron's Frost Breath, but instead of taking 100.000 damage, you got healed for 100.000 :9 |
| 14:01.28 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 14:01.51 | Maldivia | and yes, that attach is totally out of proportion |
| 14:02.43 | Beladona | isn't large amounts of damage always negative? |
| 14:02.47 | Beladona | unless you are doing it |
| 14:02.49 | Beladona | =P |
| 14:03.20 | Maldivia | hmm, another thing - anyone know what causes UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS to fire ? |
| 14:03.35 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.40 | Maldivia | Cairenn: grr |
| 14:03.46 | Maldivia | I was just about to write the same thing |
| 14:03.58 | Cairenn | Maldivia: heh, too slow |
| 14:06.01 | Cairenn | hahhahaha |
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| 14:06.49 | Cairenn | "Life is all about ass; you're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, trying to get a piece of it, behaving like one. Or you live with one!!!" |
| 14:10.15 | TS|Skrom | lol nice |
| 14:11.51 | Cide | Lightning Shield: Air Bubble pockets in underwater regions will no longer consume a charge from this spell. |
| 14:11.56 | Cide | my #1 pet peeve: finally fixed! |
| 14:22.41 | wereHamster | JoshBorke, it doesn't seem that anyone ever used my HealSync library, so I'm tempted to revert it back to a single addon that does everything, without the possibility to share the healsync data with other addons |
| 14:22.56 | Cairenn | hah! http://www.msnbc.com/comics/daily.asp?sfile=dp060822&vts=82220060714 |
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| 14:31.47 | TS|Skrom | werehamster: what does it do? |
| 14:33.26 | wereHamster | TS|Skrom, http://www.curse-gaming.com/de/wow/addons-4191-1-healsync.html |
| 14:34.04 | TS|Skrom | nifty |
| 14:35.10 | Beladona | weird, so I guess SCVT is still going, despite blizzard integrating most of it's function |
| 14:35.18 | Beladona | err SCT not SCVT |
| 14:37.44 | Maldivia | lol |
| 14:38.06 | Maldivia | I just joined an AB game after the other faction had gathered 2000 ressources :) |
| 14:40.57 | kelvie | anyone have a direct download for the patch? |
| 14:42.39 | kelvie | nevermind, found one on the forums :x |
| 14:43.46 | Corrodias | illidan doesn't sound all that bad |
| 14:45.25 | JoshBorke | wereHamster, sounds good :-) |
| 14:45.34 | JoshBorke | wereHamster, you saw why i didn't like it right? |
| 14:48.41 | Rallion | has anybody in here looked at the code for SCT? |
| 14:48.44 | Rallion | or |
| 14:48.54 | Rallion | for Blizz's floating combat text, I mean |
| 14:49.18 | JoshBorke | SCT has more options and configurations that the blizzard text |
| 14:50.04 | Rallion | i was just wondering if SCT could just work with the stuff blizzard added and improve on it, rather than being entirely separate |
| 14:52.22 | Tain | Blizzard's is very simple. |
| 14:53.01 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 14:53.18 | Corrodias | seems there are two versions of the history with malfurion and illidan. well, whatever. i'm just here for the EPIC LOOTZ |
| 14:55.05 | Cide | I think what they meant with "go negative" was that if you had enough people get hit by Eye of C'Thun's Eye Beam, it bugged out bigtime |
| 14:55.14 | Cide | another example... |
| 14:55.21 | Cide | Eye of C'Thun's Eye Beam hits you for 1. |
| 14:55.23 | Cide | You die. |
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| 14:56.32 | Rallion | yeah...I guess there's no real reason to work with the default Blizzard_CombatText, now that I look at it |
| 14:56.38 | RTE | hello folks |
| 14:56.47 | Corrodias | "At release, when there was no high level content it was annouced by Ordinn that "the most powerful NPC is Illidan." When asked where he was, Caydiem responded. "Illidan is shy." It is now known that he will not appear until The Burning Crusade." |
| 14:58.15 | RTE | Got a question for you folks |
| 14:58.34 | Cairenn | we may have an answer for you |
| 14:58.34 | Maldivia | ok |
| 14:58.36 | Corrodias | think i'd better go to bed and get some sleep while i can, then continue reading tomorrow |
| 14:58.40 | Rallion | No way is Illidan more powerful than Arthas |
| 14:58.43 | RTE | does anyon know if you get d/c if you spam too much with new SendAddonMessage() function? |
| 14:58.50 | Cairenn | later Corrodias |
| 14:58.51 | Maldivia | you will |
| 14:59.00 | RTE | damn it |
| 14:59.28 | Maldivia | RTE: there's the same flood protection on it, as SendChatMessage, DoEmote etc |
| 14:59.28 | RTE | do you know what is considered "too much" in that case? |
| 14:59.41 | MentalPower|Univ | same as always |
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| 15:00.11 | Maldivia | RTE: just dont spam on it, now that the rest of the raid can't toggle if of, you're hurting everyone! |
| 15:00.15 | RTE | well, I understand that is the same as for other chanels, but unfortunatelly I have no idea what it is :( |
| 15:00.58 | RTE | I'm just trying to add one interesting feature to guildtools |
| 15:01.20 | RTE | what I need is a client sending data in guild chanel to the server |
| 15:01.26 | MentalPower|Univ | its a function of how much data the server recieves from your client, that is combined total of data recieved from chat, movement queries etc |
| 15:02.00 | RTE | I'm just trying what will be a "safe" spam in the chanel |
| 15:02.07 | MentalPower|Univ | I don't know the actual number |
| 15:02.26 | RTE | Alright, I think I'll do some testing then |
| 15:02.41 | Maldivia | remember, it varies from situation to situation |
| 15:02.47 | RTE | Probably something like 3 254 messages a second would not be too much |
| 15:02.58 | MentalPower|Univ | NetStats() should give you an idea |
| 15:03.16 | RTE | yeah, I understand, but hopefully people will not do much while sending data to server |
| 15:03.17 | Maldivia | you can stand still in a remote place, and probably send a lot of data, but in a raid, you'll probably be down to half ir 1/3rd the data |
| 15:03.27 | Cairenn | Cide: you there? |
| 15:03.38 | Cide | yes |
| 15:03.39 | MentalPower|Univ | or more exactly, you should monitor NetStats() instead of chars per second |
| 15:03.40 | RTE | alright, thanks for the help |
| 15:03.46 | Cairenn | Cide: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5860 |
| 15:04.40 | RTE | Oh, anyone interested in beta testing guildtools 3.1? :) |
| 15:05.17 | Cairenn | toss it up in the beta section on the site RTE ;) |
| 15:05.26 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat34.html |
| 15:06.01 | RTE | Damn, I'm soo lazy, I haven't even posted GTS on your site Cairenn |
| 15:06.08 | RTE | Should probably do it now :) |
| 15:06.13 | Cairenn | yes, I've noticed :p |
| 15:07.58 | Corrodias | guys, there's an addon library that send messages at a reasonable rate for you |
| 15:08.04 | Corrodias | *sends, and i don't remember the name. |
| 15:08.08 | MentalPower|Univ | ok, off to class for me, later folks |
| 15:08.14 | Corrodias | bye |
| 15:08.19 | Cairenn | later MentalPower|Univ |
| 15:08.40 | RTE | later |
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| 15:10.50 | RTE | Cairenn, you do not have "guild addons" category, do you? |
| 15:11.07 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5263-GuildToolS.html |
| 15:11.22 | Cairenn | nope, not specifically |
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| 15:12.08 | RTE | alriht, I'll just toss 3.0 in inventory section |
| 15:12.16 | Cairenn | oooorrrr ... |
| 15:12.21 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat26.html |
| 15:12.23 | RTE | or will "oters" be better? |
| 15:12.45 | RTE | data mods?.. hmm |
| 15:13.05 | Cairenn | given that a lot of it is designed for output to a website |
| 15:13.07 | RTE | yeah, thats better |
| 15:13.19 | RTE | not alot ... all :) |
| 15:13.34 | TS|Skrom | hrm... got an xml question |
| 15:13.47 | RTE | is it posible to have more then 1 file available for d/l? |
| 15:13.54 | Cairenn | sure |
| 15:14.07 | Cairenn | why wouldn't it be? |
| 15:14.32 | TS|Skrom | getglobal(this:GetName().."Text"):SetText("MyText"); - this is on a slider widget... where does xml define that "Text" is the text above the slider, but "high" is the text at the right end? |
| 15:15.53 | RTE | <Cairenn>: I have image-pack, that I want to be available for download aswell, do I upload it first, then the actual addon or what? |
| 15:16.15 | Cairenn | addon first |
| 15:16.23 | RTE | alright |
| 15:16.25 | Cairenn | I'm presuming the image pack is for use within the mod? |
| 15:17.20 | Cairenn | if so, let me get the addon approved, then you go to it and chose "upload addon", then it becomes a very handy little link right on the main mod page |
| 15:17.20 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom, the XML should have a FontString named $parentText |
| 15:18.20 | RTE | <Cairenn>: yep, imagepack are images for the resulting html file, it is optional, but still requested by most |
| 15:18.38 | wereHamster | JoshBorke, why didn't you like it? |
| 15:18.38 | Cairenn | you'll love the way we've got that set up, when you see it |
| 15:18.53 | RTE | alrighty |
| 15:19.51 | TS|Skrom | Cogwheel would that be defined because of inherits="OptionsSliderTemplate"? |
| 15:20.00 | Cairenn | morning cogwheel |
| 15:20.00 | cogwheel | Cairenn or dolby-wowi... I just noticed that the tooltip (title attribute) of the "Edit" button for comments says "Reply with quote"... it might just be in the Lite version... |
| 15:20.04 | cogwheel | morning :) |
| 15:20.16 | cogwheel | Most likely, TS|Skrom |
| 15:20.21 | Cairenn | cogwheel: thanks |
| 15:20.35 | TS|Skrom | How do you get a list of those types of elements, where they are, etc? |
| 15:20.43 | cogwheel | you should be able to find OptionsSliderTemplate somewhere in the FrameXML folder |
| 15:20.49 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
| 15:21.00 | TS|Skrom | drat and I'm at work |
| 15:21.07 | TS|Skrom | don't have wow installed here lol |
| 15:21.12 | Cairenn | don't need it to be |
| 15:21.22 | Cairenn | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 15:21.39 | Cairenn | RTE: 2 sec |
| 15:22.51 | TS|Skrom | Cairenn will y ou marry me? |
| 15:22.54 | TS|Skrom | ;) |
| 15:23.18 | cogwheel | Well, TS|Skrom, whenever you get near a wow installation, OptionsSliderTemplate is defined in FrameXML\OptionsFrameTemplates.xml |
| 15:23.26 | Cairenn | RTE: okay, approved, now go to the addon: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5264-GuildToolS.html and look just above the screenshots on the right |
| 15:23.41 | Cairenn | RTE: use the "upload addon-on" button to upload the image pack |
| 15:23.46 | Cairenn | TS|Skrom: *grin* |
| 15:23.49 | TS|Skrom | looking at it now from the link Cairenn gave. |
| 15:23.58 | TS|Skrom | I'm such an xml newb... |
| 15:24.01 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 15:24.14 | cogwheel | that link went right over my head :P |
| 15:24.33 | TS|Skrom | I got lucky last night and kidna banged my head on my keyboard for a couple hours and made some progress on my addon |
| 15:24.43 | Cairenn | cogwheel: silly boy, any wow ui modder should know and revere wdn |
| 15:25.14 | cogwheel | See... I have WoW installed at work and at home, so I always have access to FrameXML :P |
| 15:25.32 | Cairenn | for other reasons as well though :p |
| 15:25.37 | Cairenn | like, the compares :p |
| 15:26.17 | TS|Skrom | Hey another question. Trying to do a tooltip to show the actual number on the slider (1 to 100) that you are currently dragging over. What's the best widget handler to use? |
| 15:26.39 | TS|Skrom | I tried OnValueChanged but it shows the tooltip when the addon first loads as I set the default value |
| 15:26.39 | cogwheel | I suppose... BuyEmAll is my first addon that modifies the base UI in any way so i never really thought about it. |
| 15:26.54 | RTE | <Cairenn>: btw, what graphical editor are you using to edit Blizz icons? |
| 15:27.22 | Cairenn | RTE: PS CS2 <3 |
| 15:27.34 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom, you could use OnEnter to show the tooltip and OnLeave to hide it. |
| 15:27.36 | TS|Skrom | it works perfectly besides that, so is there maybe just a way to supress that initial "value changed" event? |
| 15:27.40 | TS|Skrom | I did that.. but |
| 15:27.54 | TS|Skrom | you have to move the slider, then move the mouse off, then back on for the tooltip to change |
| 15:27.59 | RTE | "A preview image is required for this category but was not attached. " |
| 15:28.15 | TS|Skrom | I was wanting something to update the tooltip as you move it so you know right where you are moving to before you let go of the mouse |
| 15:28.16 | cogwheel | Then you should do OnChange too, but check to make sure the mouse is inside before showing it |
| 15:28.30 | RTE | Cairenn, what is PS CS2? |
| 15:28.35 | Cairenn | PhotoShop |
| 15:28.41 | TS|Skrom | so do an onValueChange but check for a mouseover? |
| 15:28.47 | RTE | ah :) |
| 15:28.54 | cogwheel | Or you could just have another text field that always displays the current value... |
| 15:29.16 | Cairenn | RTE: if you don't have an image to use and don't care to get one, use the one from here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4167-AfterCast.html |
| 15:29.29 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 15:29.36 | TS|Skrom | Cog: Didn't know how to do that haha |
| 15:29.50 | TS|Skrom | Cog: But I knew enough about tooltips so far that I thought I could figure that one out lol |
| 15:30.24 | TS|Skrom | And like I said, it does the expected behaivior during dragging... it just pops up the tooltip for a few seconds when the addon first loads |
| 15:30.35 | cogwheel | It would probably be more intuitive to have the text field though... |
| 15:30.35 | TS|Skrom | because the value changes when I load the saved variable |
| 15:30.42 | cogwheel | it will be more natural |
| 15:30.43 | TS|Skrom | maybe so *shrug* |
| 15:31.55 | TS|Skrom | I switched it back to onenter for now hehe |
| 15:32.05 | TS|Skrom | that was at 1:30 last night and I was tired lol |
| 15:32.39 | RTE | TS|Skrom: I use just a text fiel I put right next to slider to display current value |
| 15:32.45 | RTE | it looks pritty natural |
| 15:33.12 | TS|Skrom | can I see an example of that xml? |
| 15:33.12 | cogwheel | So, what's the deal with TicTacToeFrame? |
| 15:33.19 | RTE | holdon a sec |
| 15:33.22 | TS|Skrom | thanks |
| 15:33.50 | RTE | all you want is indicator of what value is slider on, correct? |
| 15:33.59 | TS|Skrom | right |
| 15:34.03 | Cairenn | RTE: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5264-GuildToolS.html |
| 15:34.06 | Cairenn | take a look now |
| 15:36.32 | RTE | it is really nice indeed |
| 15:36.44 | RTE | I think I like it even more then c-g's |
| 15:36.58 | Beladona | anyone know of any libraries for easy options gui creation? |
| 15:36.58 | RTE | <TS|Skrom>: check pm |
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| 15:37.13 | TS|Skrom | don't have one from you |
| 15:37.23 | TS|Skrom | do I need to enable you or something? |
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| 15:38.03 | Cairenn | RTE: well, it's just so damn handy, means that everything is in one tidy package, you don't have to go looking all over the place to find the various bits and pieces, it's all right there |
| 15:38.17 | Cairenn | "you" being the end users |
| 15:38.39 | Kalroth | I'm demoted to a user :( |
| 15:38.51 | Cairenn | Kalroth: not! |
| 15:38.57 | Cairenn | <3 Kalroth |
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| 15:39.01 | Kalroth | hi :D |
| 15:39.02 | Cairenn | ltns, how the hell are ya? |
| 15:39.26 | Kalroth | I wish I could come up with something exciting to say, but it's the same old :) |
| 15:39.34 | RTE | sorry for the following flood |
| 15:39.35 | Cairenn | heh, hear that one |
| 15:39.39 | RTE | <Slider name="$parent_PlayerScale" inherits="OptionsSliderTemplate" minValue="0" maxValue="1" defaultValue="0" valueStep="0.01"> |
| 15:39.39 | RTE | <Anchors> |
| 15:39.39 | RTE | <Anchor point="TOPLEFT"> |
| 15:39.39 | RTE | <Offset> |
| 15:39.39 | RTE | <AbsDimension x="10" y="-80" /> |
| 15:39.41 | RTE | </Offset> |
| 15:39.43 | RTE | </Anchor> |
| 15:39.45 | RTE | </Anchors> |
| 15:39.47 | RTE | <Size> |
| 15:39.47 | Cairenn | RTE: >< |
| 15:39.49 | RTE | <AbsDimension x="80" y="16"/> |
| 15:39.51 | RTE | </Size> |
| 15:39.53 | RTE | <Scripts> |
| 15:39.55 | RTE | <OnLoad> |
| 15:39.57 | RTE | </OnLoad> |
| 15:39.59 | RTE | <OnValueChanged> |
| 15:40.01 | RTE | getglobal(this:GetName().."Text"):SetText(CF_Round(getglobal(this:GetName()):GetValue())); |
| 15:40.03 | RTE | </OnValueChanged> |
| 15:40.04 | Cairenn | RTE: http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 15:40.04 | cogwheel | rte... |
| 15:40.05 | RTE | </Scripts> |
| 15:40.07 | RTE | </Slider> |
| 15:40.09 | RTE | <TS|Skrom>: wierd symbols are tabs |
| 15:40.18 | cogwheel | ~slap RTE |
| 15:40.19 | purl | ACTION slaps RTE, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 15:40.19 | RTE | handy, sorry :) |
| 15:40.35 | Kalroth | Reinstalled the 'puter during my vacation, so was missing out on a lot of my old irc servers, including this one .. wasn't until someone reminded me the other day that I remembered to setup |
| 15:40.43 | Cairenn | RTE: for future reference, if you've got more than like 2 lines of code to paste, use http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 15:40.48 | Kalroth | Well that and post-vacation work stress >< |
| 15:41.07 | TS|Skrom | CF_Round? |
| 15:41.08 | RTE | yeah, thanks for reference |
| 15:41.08 | Kaso | has 1.12 gone live today in US then? |
| 15:41.15 | RTE | my own function |
| 15:41.17 | RTE | http://wowi.pastey.net/358 |
| 15:41.18 | Kalroth | Yes Kaso |
| 15:41.30 | RTE | all it does is rounds to 4 significant digits |
| 15:41.34 | Cairenn | hope vacation was good, hope reinstall went well, hear ya on post-vacation work catch-up stress |
| 15:41.42 | Cairenn | and welcome back :) |
| 15:41.46 | Kalroth | Kaso: http://www.whataboutpp.com/ for patch information and downloads |
| 15:41.53 | Kaso | lovely thanks |
| 15:42.09 | Cairenn | can always find the patch notes on WoWI, been up for hours now |
| 15:42.11 | Kalroth | Cairenn: 3 weeks of vacation does "wonders" to my inbox :p |
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| 15:42.18 | Cairenn | heh |
| 15:42.25 | Kalroth | Kaso: no EU downloads yet though |
| 15:42.42 | Cairenn | there are if you know where to look |
| 15:42.56 | Cairenn | Alla's, if you're a premium user, http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/#p1.12.0 otherwise |
| 15:43.07 | TS|Skrom | you define the $parent_PlayerScaleText in a layers section, correct? |
| 15:43.25 | Kaso | has there been any UI changes that've caused problems? |
| 15:43.35 | Kalroth | No announced changes, no |
| 15:43.37 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom, yes because it's a FontString. |
| 15:43.42 | Kalroth | But you never know. :) |
| 15:43.48 | TS|Skrom | okay, still learning what all those different layers mean |
| 15:44.16 | TS|Skrom | so you define it, give it a position, an ancor, etc, then in the slider OnValueChanged you update the actual text |
| 15:44.30 | cogwheel | yep |
| 15:44.59 | TS|Skrom | you could do an OnLoad to populate the text before you even touch the slider but you would do that after saved variables are loaded and you would do it on the fontstring load I would guess |
| 15:45.03 | RTE | since $parent_PlayerScale is a slider $parent_PlayerScaleText is defined for it automatically, but you can redefine it in layers section |
| 15:45.34 | TS|Skrom | oh true, but I want to use PlayerScaleText for the heading to describe the slider |
| 15:45.48 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 15:45.51 | TS|Skrom | and a seperate text field for the value |
| 15:46.11 | Cairenn | Tem_: you there? |
| 15:46.16 | Kalroth | If he's smart then he'll stay away |
| 15:46.19 | Tem_ | sorta, yeah |
| 15:46.20 | RTE | then make a new one and locate it to the right of slider |
| 15:46.32 | RTE | call it $parent_PlayerScale_Text or something |
| 15:46.39 | TS|Skrom | right, right |
| 15:46.40 | RTE | or $parent_PlayerScaleTextRight |
| 15:46.42 | cogwheel | Tem, how long do you think it'll be before you crash the new patch? ;) |
| 15:46.50 | Tem | Cairenn, why? |
| 15:46.54 | TS|Skrom | can call it $parent_PlayerScaleChihuahua for all it matters |
| 15:46.54 | Cairenn | Kalroth: naw, this is where we all bitch about the stupid end users and their incessant whining on patch days, you know that |
| 15:47.03 | Tem | cogwheel, eh, I don't try. It just sorta happens. |
| 15:47.11 | RTE | indeed |
| 15:47.12 | Cairenn | Tem: example of re-named mod, per stress relief previously discussed? |
| 15:47.36 | Tem | oh |
| 15:47.37 | Tem | um |
| 15:47.40 | Cairenn | *forgot them again* |
| 15:47.49 | Tem | damn, I can't think of any either |
| 15:48.04 | Cairenn | decursive -> Mr. Clean? |
| 15:48.10 | Tem | oh yeah! |
| 15:49.25 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=27768#post27768 |
| 15:50.20 | Cairenn | it'll go up on the blizz forum soon as they are unlocked again |
| 15:50.40 | RTE | Cide, are the patch notes for the new CT_RA ready yet? |
| 15:50.50 | Cide | waiting for ts to get on |
| 15:50.51 | Cairenn | we'd had some damn good ones, that one was one of the weaker examples |
| 15:51.29 | RTE | Just a quick question then, are you using new SendAddonMessage() thing? |
| 15:51.33 | Cide | yes |
| 15:51.38 | RTE | SWEET |
| 15:51.42 | Gryphen | lol |
| 15:51.55 | RTE | no more stupid "rebroadcast the chanel please"! |
| 15:52.31 | cogwheel | Cairenn, if I put "MazzleUI->WinFS" will you be mad? :P |
| 15:52.49 | Cairenn | cogwheel: privately? ROFLMFAO |
| 15:52.55 | Cairenn | cogwheel: publically? >< |
| 15:53.05 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 15:53.28 | RTE | oh, Cide, another question, is new CT_RA backwards compatable with old communication or everyone has to get the new one? |
| 15:53.35 | Gryphen | no |
| 15:53.42 | Gryphen | no compat |
| 15:53.45 | Cide | not backwards compatible, no |
| 15:53.50 | Cide | anyone here on EU? |
| 15:53.53 | Cairenn | cogwheel: ... |
| 15:54.04 | Cairenn | cogwheel: please, edit |
| 15:54.08 | Cairenn | lol |
| 15:54.09 | RTE | damn it, but I can see how it would be a pain :) hehe |
| 15:54.18 | Cairenn | let's not start a flame war, pretty please? |
| 15:54.21 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 15:54.57 | Tain | One two three four I declare a flame war |
| 15:55.08 | zenzelezz | I'm on EU servers |
| 15:55.19 | Cide | are the eu PTR's up still? |
| 15:55.50 | Tain | Ooops I'm supposed to be working. |
| 15:56.03 | zenzelezz | hm, don't know if it is |
| 15:56.34 | Cide | basically, I need to find the name of two icons |
| 15:58.27 | Insa | http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-test-realm-en&t=177796&p=1&tmp=1#post177796 |
| 15:58.38 | Insa | eu ptrs down too |
| 15:59.00 | Cairenn | RTE: your nick registered? |
| 16:01.40 | RTE | where? |
| 16:01.48 | Cairenn | on the channel |
| 16:02.08 | RTE | I don't think so |
| 16:02.08 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.16 | RTE | NickServ- The nickname [rte] is already registered |
| 16:03.41 | RTE | someone got my nick /cry |
| 16:03.58 | cogwheel | and if they log on, youll be booted :P |
| 16:04.18 | Cairenn | last seen 34 weeks ago |
| 16:04.29 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.59 | Cairenn | you can contact one of the server staff and they'll probably release it to you, given that info |
| 16:05.11 | Cairenn | or, you can change it slightly, put it in [] or something |
| 16:06.19 | _RTE_ | done and done |
| 16:06.26 | _RTE_ | hehe :) |
| 16:09.14 | cogwheel | ZOMG blizzerd is teh suk!!! "Non-combat pets are no longer affected by environmental damage." But I loved roasting my prairie chicken in bonfires! :( |
| 16:09.52 | Cairenn | you are a cruel and sadistic man cogwheel |
| 16:09.58 | Kaso | haha |
| 16:10.08 | Kaso | they nurfed priests |
| 16:10.22 | Kaso | cant reset benediction cooldown by zoning :< |
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| 16:14.36 | Flyoc | what's the cooldown btw ? |
| 16:14.47 | Kaso | 30min |
| 16:17.20 | Kaso | i dont care that much dont like my lollypop, but if i still used it i would be pissed |
| 16:18.54 | Codayus | Heh, I tried to apply mana oil a couple weeks ago, accidentaly transformed mine... |
| 16:19.15 | Codayus | Had to run back to zone in so I could reset it before the boss pull...was pretty embarassing. |
| 16:19.38 | Codayus | Can't do that any more though. Good thing I'm upgrading to something better in a week or two, and won't have to worry. :-) |
| 16:20.13 | Beladona | how is that a nerf |
| 16:20.21 | Beladona | that sounds more like fixing an exploit |
| 16:20.29 | Codayus | Exploit is a strong word. |
| 16:20.40 | Beladona | mild exploit |
| 16:20.43 | Codayus | But yes, it effectively did not have a cooldown on tranforming it. |
| 16:20.53 | Codayus | And now it does. They obviously intended it to have one. |
| 16:20.54 | Beladona | but nonetheless, you can't deny that it was indeed getting around game mechanics |
| 16:21.17 | Codayus | On the other hand, I can't imagine why you'd WANT to transform it back and forth...except maybe inside a BG, where you can't reset the cooldown. |
| 16:21.31 | Beladona | was referring more to the priest thing |
| 16:21.32 | Beladona | but yeah |
| 16:21.36 | Codayus | So I wouldn't even call it a a MILD exploit. Bug fix... |
| 16:21.44 | Codayus | Priest thing? |
| 16:21.51 | Beladona | benediction |
| 16:21.53 | Kaso | i cant even see why they have a 30min cooldown on it, seems silly |
| 16:22.01 | Codayus | Ruight, that's what I was talking about. |
| 16:22.07 | Kaso | but i agree it wasn't really koasher |
| 16:22.41 | Corrodias | is that "scourge invasion" event largely over? i've never heard of it. |
| 16:22.51 | Codayus | Corrodias: Blink and you missed it. |
| 16:22.58 | Beladona | the whole temporary item buff resets on zoning is mildly annoying though |
| 16:23.05 | Beladona | I wonder why they can't fix it until the expansion |
| 16:23.06 | End | hmm, new patch |
| 16:23.07 | Corrodias | guess so, then |
| 16:23.09 | Codayus | Lasted a week or two...then vanished without warning, to the immense annoyance of many. |
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| 16:23.42 | End | Beladona: they said they needed to have upgraded hardware in place first |
| 16:23.51 | Kalroth | Beladona: Because zoning includes moving your whole character and all your gear to a new server in the cluster (it can anyways) and the code to do that is a hack :) |
| 16:24.04 | End | and that's one of the things they are doing by the time they release the expansion |
| 16:24.06 | Beladona | I understand taht |
| 16:24.09 | Codayus | Frankly, I was pretty disapointed with the invasion. |
| 16:24.14 | Beladona | it was working before though |
| 16:24.22 | Codayus | Beladona: It caused too much lag, they claimed. |
| 16:24.27 | Beladona | unless it involves an issue with the recent cross-server changes |
| 16:24.28 | End | well, apparently some servers have shitty hardware |
| 16:24.57 | Codayus | So they hotfixed its removal, which caused a bug where applying mana oil and then zoning would remove your enchantment(!) so they had to hotfix that. oO |
| 16:25.06 | End | lol yeah |
| 16:25.12 | End | icky |
| 16:25.23 | zenzelezz | those two things were related? o_O |
| 16:26.45 | Codayus | Apparently they added code to remove temporary enchantments on zoning...which in some cases was removing permentant ones. It *seemed* to only be a problem with brilliant mana oil, but a blue post said it was actually any temp buff applied through the trade window. |
| 16:27.16 | Codayus | Which disagreed with my observations, but frankly, having Blizz not fully understand the bug would seem to be par for the course. :-) |
| 16:28.10 | Beladona | I think it is too sweeping to say "Blizz not fully undersand the bug" so much as that customer relations person who posted not udnerstanding it |
| 16:28.23 | Beladona | he probably mis-posted it, or mis-interpreted |
| 16:28.56 | Beladona | think about how easy it is for information to get mangled when passed from person to person |
| 16:28.59 | zenzelezz | I was surprised that horribly phrased Shield Slam sentence got through to the patch notes |
| 16:29.06 | zenzelezz | without being improved |
| 16:29.08 | Beladona | especially when a technical person tells it to a non-technical one |
| 16:30.22 | Codayus | zenzelezz: Heh, that was particularly bad. |
| 16:30.29 | Beladona | yeah thats pretty funny |
| 16:30.35 | cogwheel | Beladona, I work in an office with 3 employees, a vice president, and the owner. You don't have to tell me how easy it is for communication to go awry ;) |
| 16:30.40 | Beladona | did anyone get clarification on that? |
| 16:30.43 | Codayus | A lot of their loading screen tips are pretty bad too, especially the first crop. |
| 16:30.58 | Beladona | it no longer removes more than one, or it sometimes removes only one? |
| 16:31.07 | Codayus | Beladona: I believe there was a known bug where shield slam was occasionally removing ALL debuffs. |
| 16:31.12 | Beladona | hehe |
| 16:31.22 | Codayus | So I'm 90% sure that line in the patch notes meant that it has been fixed to never remove more than one. |
| 16:31.24 | zenzelezz | I can see how that would hurt |
| 16:31.36 | Codayus | Or buffs, or whatever it does. I dunno, I'm not a prot warrior. :-) |
| 16:31.39 | Beladona | for the person hit with it sure |
| 16:31.42 | Beladona | not for me though |
| 16:31.43 | Beladona | =P |
| 16:32.31 | Beladona | Thunderclap is weaker - great |
| 16:32.39 | Beladona | not that I used it that much but still |
| 16:32.53 | Codayus | Even less reason to hang out in battle stance... |
| 16:33.13 | zenzelezz | I hardly use it (since I seem to stay more in defensive and even berserker stance), but I never liked how it only affects 4 targets |
| 16:33.18 | Codayus | (Honestly, did warriors NEED a nerf to that particular skill?) |
| 16:33.55 | Beladona | hell no Codayus |
| 16:34.04 | Beladona | it was barely effective as is |
| 16:34.21 | Codayus | And even that's being generous. :-) |
| 16:34.39 | Codayus | "Thundercalp! Significnatly more useful than Rend!" |
| 16:34.44 | Beladona | about the only use it had for me was pissing off more than one mob at once when they were running towards the group on pull |
| 16:34.51 | Beladona | but you have shouts for that anyway |
| 16:35.13 | zenzelezz | which aren't limited in number of affected enemies |
| 16:35.18 | Beladona | aye |
| 16:35.19 | Codayus | In theory, a DPS warrior could keep it up for damage mitigation in raids (assuming your MT doesn't have TF). |
| 16:35.34 | Codayus | Except I'd rather be in berserker, so... :-) |
| 16:35.38 | Beladona | yeah, but typically you don't want them using it anyway |
| 16:35.45 | Beladona | because of the sheep / ssap issue |
| 16:35.50 | Codayus | <shrug> |
| 16:36.08 | zenzelezz | another plus for the shouts |
| 16:36.11 | Codayus | Fine in many fights...most of MC. Then again, it's like...who cares... |
| 16:36.12 | Beladona | its very conditional, and even then extremely useless |
| 16:36.40 | Codayus | Most of the times you need to piss off a group of mobs, I'd rather bloodrage. |
| 16:36.45 | Beladona | goes back to that whole - warriors who use shields with aoe procs on them |
| 16:36.51 | Beladona | morons, the lot of them |
| 16:36.55 | Codayus | As long as your on their hate list, it's awesome. |
| 16:37.28 | Beladona | is it the bloodrage that pisses them off, or the sudden drop in hp? |
| 16:37.34 | Beladona | never figured that out |
| 16:37.40 | Beladona | or increase in rage |
| 16:37.55 | zenzelezz | I was in BWL for the first time the other day, hit Bloodrage when I saw I entered combat when they pulled... one of the dragons, can't remember which |
| 16:37.59 | zenzelezz | think it was Ebonroc |
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| 16:38.07 | zenzelezz | he didn't like that and came at me :-x |
| 16:38.08 | Beladona | hell, its probably both |
| 16:38.11 | Codayus | It's the rage, actually. |
| 16:38.17 | Beladona | rage, and hp drop combined for hate |
| 16:38.27 | Codayus | 1 point of rage gained = a fair bit of threat. |
| 16:38.31 | wereHamster | does HP drop generate threat? |
| 16:38.39 | Codayus | HP drop...don't think so. |
| 16:38.48 | Beladona | you never noticed mobs going after people with low health first? |
| 16:38.55 | meh | no.. |
| 16:38.57 | Codayus | Never. |
| 16:38.59 | Beladona | hmm |
| 16:39.05 | zenzelezz | I really wish the Improved Bloodrage talent would reduce cooldown instead of increase amount of rage generated |
| 16:39.12 | Codayus | zenzelezz: Yeah |
| 16:39.40 | Beladona | dunno Zenz, I would rather have more rage per use, than more chances to lose health.... |
| 16:39.45 | Beladona | lol |
| 16:39.50 | Codayus | That's actually one of the few good things about bosses throwing the raid into combat - makes it easy for the MT to gain aggro on very long pulls. |
| 16:40.30 | Codayus | Hunter tags it, MT blood rages, and 40 seconds later shazz shows up...or whatever... |
| 16:41.10 | Beladona | one of my favorite changes: The Need Before Greed and Group Loot countdown timers will now have a 3 minute countdown when there is a bind on acquire item on the corpse. This should allow a bit more time in making a decision to roll for an item. |
| 16:41.23 | TS|Skrom | rage generation is 5 threat per pointt |
| 16:41.27 | zenzelezz | I was surprised to see the guild pulling Ebonroc and Flamegor to the room right after Broodlord... always had the impression people fought them farther up |
| 16:41.32 | TS|Skrom | so blood rage is 50 threat + 5 per second |
| 16:42.01 | TS|Skrom | as long as you are already on the hate list that is |
| 16:42.35 | zenzelezz | so the 1 rage generated with Shield Specialization generates 5 threat? |
| 16:43.05 | Beladona | yup |
| 16:43.16 | Cairenn | _RTE_: you should link your portal in the thread so folks know where to post bugs |
| 16:43.37 | _RTE_ | ah, good idea, thanks :) |
| 16:43.38 | TS|Skrom | basically any time you get "You gain +1 rage" in your chat you get 5 threat with it |
| 16:44.20 | TS|Skrom | that's why passive rage generation from being hit or hitting (not counting the threat form the damage) does not increase threat |
| 16:44.32 | zenzelezz | out of curiosity... what about rage potions? |
| 16:44.46 | wereHamster | like mana and hp pots |
| 16:44.55 | TS|Skrom | again.. if you get a chat message then yes it should give the increase |
| 16:45.05 | zenzelezz | but it's only when you get a chat message? |
| 16:45.07 | TS|Skrom | it's the mob getting pissed off that you are gainint more powa |
| 16:45.09 | TS|Skrom | yep |
| 16:45.11 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 16:45.16 | TS|Skrom | heal pots are the same as healing... amount /2 |
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| 16:45.32 | TS|Skrom | mana pots I'm unsure but prolly amount or amount /2 |
| 16:46.15 | zenzelezz | never read up on potion threat... I keep those for when I need health more than threat =D |
| 16:46.52 | TS|Skrom | hehe yeah |
| 16:47.01 | TS|Skrom | and just like healing spells overhealing doesn't count |
| 16:47.12 | TS|Skrom | so you can't drink a major pot when you are down 10hp and get 350 hate |
| 16:47.54 | _RTE_ | how do you figure all that stuff out? |
| 16:48.09 | TS|Skrom | some is pretty easy |
| 16:48.12 | _RTE_ | seems like hell of a lot of testing |
| 16:48.16 | TS|Skrom | yes, it is |
| 16:48.28 | TS|Skrom | hence why I always say "mad props" to the KLTM guys |
| 16:48.54 | TS|Skrom | easy way to test: Get two characters have one do 100 point of damage. The other will pull aggro at exactly 111 damage |
| 16:49.16 | TS|Skrom | nice and easy for damage, now to figure out the inherent threat from an effect. |
| 16:49.25 | TS|Skrom | Use the effect (sunder armor) for example |
| 16:49.31 | TS|Skrom | and then have the other person start hitting |
| 16:49.44 | TS|Skrom | he will gain aggro when his threat exceeds the person who sundered by 110% |
| 16:50.00 | TS|Skrom | so if it takes 221 damage... you know that sunder causes 200 threat |
| 16:50.22 | TS|Skrom | now you can't get that close in one test, but over a couple thousand tests you can get very accurate numbers |
| 16:51.09 | _RTE_ | thats alot of statistics |
| 16:51.17 | _RTE_ | oh well :) |
| 16:52.33 | _RTE_ | who wants a great idea for the mod? |
| 16:52.55 | TS|Skrom | oh and from what they've seen the +rage stuff givcing threat is not modified by talents like defiance or defensive |
| 16:53.14 | Kaso | _RTE_ let's hear it then |
| 16:53.28 | _RTE_ | alright, idea is simple and brilliant |
| 16:53.34 | _RTE_ | just don't have time for it |
| 16:53.48 | TS|Skrom | so you could charge in (5 threat for each point of rage generated theoretically) pop bloodrage (another 100) and get a couple swings for alot of initial hate |
| 16:53.50 | _RTE_ | you all know what a pain can debugging be |
| 16:54.04 | _RTE_ | and how hard it is to get people to send debug logs |
| 16:54.15 | _RTE_ | My idea is "DebugWizard" |
| 16:54.27 | _RTE_ | basically an addon, standalone addon |
| 16:54.46 | _RTE_ | that will be able to create debug message dialog for another mods |
| 16:55.48 | TS|Skrom | off topic: U2 the complete discography finished ;-) |
| 16:56.00 | _RTE_ | for example you have your mod Mod1 that you need to enable debug for, what you do is call DebugWizard_Create() (DebugWizard should be a dependancy in that case) and it will create new dragable window on the screen |
| 16:56.34 | _RTE_ | that new window will have a selectable text field (so you can copy-paste) and will be uneditable |
| 16:57.01 | _RTE_ | DebugWizard_Create() will return an "object" which will have full controll of the said window |
| 16:57.25 | _RTE_ | so, local debugWindow = DebugWizard_Create(); |
| 16:58.02 | _RTE_ | then you can use something like debugWindow.addMessage("Message"); and it will add the "Message" to the window |
| 16:58.34 | _RTE_ | the "object" should also have some settings, like turn on/off timestamp etc |
| 16:59.26 | _RTE_ | I can easely write the lua part for it, however xml part scares me :) |
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| 16:59.50 | TS|Skrom | Your idea was so great it knocked Kaso off teh intraweb!!1!`~ |
| 16:59.56 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:59.59 | _RTE_ | indeed :) |
| 17:00.17 | _RTE_ | I think he fell of the chair and knocked the power cord off :) |
| 17:00.55 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:01.34 | _RTE_ | so, anyone got some time to spend on the above project? |
| 17:02.09 | _RTE_ | or at least help me with the xml part fr it? |
| 17:02.22 | Cairenn | sounds like you've damn near got it all written already |
| 17:02.42 | _RTE_ | just got the bases covered |
| 17:02.50 | _RTE_ | I'm stack on the actual window |
| 17:02.54 | Cairenn | also sounds like a bit of a merge of IEF and DevTools |
| 17:03.02 | Cairenn | plus more |
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| 17:04.28 | _RTE_ | hmm, whats IEF? never heard of it |
| 17:04.37 | Tuller | improved error frame |
| 17:07.28 | _RTE_ | does anyone have or know where to find a simple xml example of textfield block, scrollable and selectsable, but not editable? |
| 17:08.03 | TS|Skrom | So I've got a date tonight |
| 17:08.10 | TS|Skrom | surprise surprise |
| 17:08.21 | _RTE_ | no freaking way! |
| 17:08.25 | TS|Skrom | yeah~! |
| 17:08.30 | _RTE_ | you lie |
| 17:08.31 | TS|Skrom | second date since the divorce |
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| 17:08.55 | TS|Skrom | with the same girl as the first date no less! |
| 17:08.56 | _RTE_ | well, good for you |
| 17:09.20 | _RTE_ | hehe, when's the 2nd devorce? :) |
| 17:09.21 | TS|Skrom | is it bad that I kinda wanna cancel to work on my addon? |
| 17:09.22 | _RTE_ | j/k |
| 17:09.24 | TS|Skrom | !! |
| 17:09.32 | TS|Skrom | oooo that's harsh heh |
| 17:09.54 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Kencos_Research |
| 17:09.59 | _RTE_ | go on date you lazy bones |
| 17:10.00 | TS|Skrom | good threat research for those interested |
| 17:10.38 | _RTE_ | take her to the movies and grab a laptop with you :) lol |
| 17:11.04 | Shadowed | Did anyone ever add UnitPlayerOrPetInParty and UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid to the wiki? |
| 17:11.07 | TS|Skrom | rofl |
| 17:11.30 | TS|Skrom | we went to the movies last time |
| 17:11.34 | _RTE_ | alright guys, lunch time, be back in an hour or so |
| 17:11.37 | TS|Skrom | i think tonight is mini-golf or soemthig |
| 17:11.45 | Cairenn | later _RTE_ |
| 17:11.46 | TS|Skrom | I don't know how this date thing works I went from high school to married >< |
| 17:11.53 | _RTE_ | minigolf and laptop dont mix :) |
| 17:12.09 | TS|Skrom | I'm bad, I keep seeing "lapdance" |
| 17:13.12 | Shadowed | Anyone have a good suggestion for something to save TGA's with decent quality/sive? |
| 17:13.13 | TS|Skrom | irfanview |
| 17:13.18 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 17:13.33 | Kirkburn | agreed, excellent prog |
| 17:13.51 | Cairenn | http://www.irfanview.de/ |
| 17:14.03 | Shadowed | thanks Cair |
| 17:14.05 | Cairenn | excellent enough I've got it in the Mod Author Resource list |
| 17:14.21 | Shadowed | you give me too much credit if you think i'd search first :( |
| 17:14.23 | zenzelezz | is it free? |
| 17:14.29 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: yes |
| 17:14.51 | zenzelezz | I remember the name, but never used it myself |
| 17:15.01 | zenzelezz | don't do much graphics anyhow. What I need, XnView can do |
| 17:15.27 | Shadowed | yeah, just need somethhing to save mod screenshots |
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| 17:17.43 | Beladona | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.06 | Cairenn | *checks* |
| 17:18.39 | Shadowed | nope |
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| 17:20.06 | AnduinLothar | yay itunes support |
| 17:20.34 | Cairenn | dreadlyone: turn off the auto announce stuff, please? |
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| 17:21.02 | zenzelezz | gah... my cat waits all afternoon to come inside, then as soon as we're fighting Onyxia she starts shouting for food |
| 17:21.45 | dreadlyone | yes already working on this even before you said it. my apologies. haven't used my mirc client since wow was released and i stopped playing cs 0_o |
| 17:21.57 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:22.11 | dreadlyone | lol =] |
| 17:22.23 | Gngsk | musical channels |
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| 17:23.31 | Cairenn | Gngsk: indeed ;) |
| 17:25.48 | Cairenn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipe_bomb :p |
| 17:25.58 | Beladona | mmm, the internet is your friend |
| 17:26.31 | Shadowed | lol |
| 17:32.37 | Cairenn | blizz forums must be getting hammered, they're sllllloooooowwwwww right now |
| 17:32.57 | MoonWolf | its a patch day and its extended maintantance. |
| 17:33.01 | MoonWolf | yeah hammering away. |
| 17:33.13 | MoonWolf | next stop is the addon sites. |
| 17:33.31 | Cairenn | yeah, it's still quiet on the sites so far |
| 17:34.19 | Cairenn | lalala |
| 17:34.25 | Kirov | People sitting on general hitting refresh over and over for the next half hour |
| 17:34.39 | Cairenn | *waits for blizz forums to unlock so she can post her usual patch day threads* |
| 17:34.51 | Codayus | Anyone know a decent example of making checkboxes using CreateFrame()? I'm missing something apparently, so a working example from an addon would be nifty... |
| 17:35.33 | Kirov | Codayus - use an existing template? |
| 17:36.04 | Codayus | Kirov: Hmm? |
| 17:36.13 | Beladona | would you not simply do something like pointer = CreateFrame('Checkbox', "name", parent); ? |
| 17:36.23 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 17:36.24 | Beladona | and optionally inherits after parent |
| 17:37.16 | Kirov | CreateFrame("CheckBox", "MyCheckBox", parent, "UIOptionsCheckboxTemplate"); |
| 17:37.16 | Codayus | I did that. But I wanted it to get a checkmark when I ticked it. Apparently that takes a call to SetCheckedTexture() |
| 17:37.17 | Beladona | checkboxes usually inherit a tempalte, so you would want an inherit, pretty sure thats what Kirov was bringing up |
| 17:37.34 | Codayus | Ah. |
| 17:38.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm surprised the blizzard main page is holding up as well as it is |
| 17:38.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't say the same about the forums |
| 17:38.49 | Beladona | brb, need this laptop for a router config |
| 17:38.52 | Beladona | =P |
| 17:39.10 | Kirov | Codayus - it's possible it's another thing CreateFrame needs to fix, but check it in 1.12 |
| 17:39.39 | Codayus | Question - can I find a list of template names somewhere? |
| 17:40.01 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/compares |
| 17:40.04 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | ^.^ |
| 17:40.25 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 17:40.45 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | Depends on what kind of \template you want |
| 17:40.58 | Kirkburn | (oh, I see now) |
| 17:41.08 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | in your case options, so check under frame.xml > OptionsFrameTemplate.lua |
| 17:41.13 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | er .xml |
| 17:41.31 | Kirkburn | Amazing that for 1.12, the *PTR* has been through nearly 100 builds |
| 17:42.18 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | Cair just showed me that today and I e-love her for it |
| 17:42.35 | Kirkburn | Beladona makes it |
| 17:42.47 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | but I can't e-love him |
| 17:42.51 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 17:42.51 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | that would be gross |
| 17:43.00 | MentalPower | lol, nice |
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| 17:43.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish mpstark would update PetExtend :[ |
| 17:43.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | It's like smartpet, only it works :O |
| 17:43.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | kinda |
| 17:43.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | It's buggy, but when it works, it works well :o |
| 17:43.57 | Codayus | Ahh, I see. |
| 17:44.53 | Codayus | Yeah, inheriting...um... OptionsCheckButtonTemplate would probably be what I was looking for. Didn't realize you oculd do that with CreateFrame(). :-) |
| 17:45.06 | Codayus | Now if the servers would just come back up, I could test it... |
| 17:45.58 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | from what I gather( and I don't know much xml) you can set alot of defaults through inheritance |
| 17:46.22 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | could prolly even define your own defaults in your xml then allow your other frames to inherit from it perhaps |
| 17:46.38 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | someone correct me if I'm wrong |
| 17:48.44 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 17:48.57 | Shadowed | can't figure out a good way to release this mod |
| 17:49.20 | Cairenn | you put it up on a site, that's usually the best way |
| 17:49.44 | Shadowed | 3 required libraries, 4 optional mods. 2 of them are stuff that'd work well alone. Don't want to make people have to download everything seperately, but also want some of the optional ones to be seperately downloaded |
| 17:49.45 | Shadowed | blah |
| 17:50.22 | Cairenn | just list em exactly as you said in your description |
| 17:50.36 | Cairenn | required dependency: <link> |
| 17:50.47 | Cairenn | required dependency: <link> |
| 17:50.54 | Cairenn | optional: <link> |
| 17:51.02 | Cairenn | at the TOP |
| 17:51.21 | Shadowed | Hrm, making them download and keep track of 4-6 different things sucks though |
| 17:51.48 | joyjey | Or do it like me, make an imba mod, that hogs memory and force garbage collection every 2 seconds |
| 17:51.50 | Cairenn | well, if they're smart little cookies, they add them to their favorites list, then they are notified when they are updated |
| 17:51.58 | JoshBorke | liar! |
| 17:52.05 | joyjey | true story! |
| 17:52.12 | Shadowed | Cairenn do you really expect me to believ e people are smart? :p |
| 17:52.22 | Cairenn | Shadowed: heh |
| 17:52.52 | Shadowed | i'll probably just have to go with that though |
| 17:53.02 | Kirov | what would be a good place on the wiki to put the GetFacing() function? |
| 17:53.11 | Shadowed | XML? |
| 17:54.35 | MentalPower | I thought the GetFacing() function was disabled a long time ago |
| 17:55.13 | Shadowed | it was, like 1.7 |
| 17:55.52 | Kirov | GetFacing() returns the player's current facing in the world. |
| 17:56.18 | Shadowed | Where? |
| 17:56.25 | Shadowed | on 1.11? |
| 17:56.28 | Kirov | I wrote a function a couple months ago that gets it. |
| 17:56.45 | MentalPower | oh from the Minimap arrow? |
| 17:56.47 | Shadowed | ah |
| 17:56.55 | Shadowed | hrm, what's the bold code in the wiki besides <b>? |
| 17:57.04 | Kirkburn | this: ''' |
| 17:57.12 | Kirkburn | stick it on either side of a word |
| 17:57.12 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 17:57.17 | Kirkburn | two is italics |
| 17:57.21 | MentalPower | ' |
| 17:57.26 | MentalPower | bah |
| 17:57.28 | Kirkburn | 5 (''''') is bold italic |
| 17:57.51 | joyjey | ok, I know its lame, but I cant help it.. whats 7 ? |
| 17:57.52 | Kirkburn | You can combine them in all sorts of wonderful ways :P |
| 17:58.33 | Kirkburn | It would unitalicise it I think |
| 17:58.36 | Kirov | MentalPower - yes |
| 17:59.14 | sancus | Kirkburn: What's the point of cutting the ClearFont font out of the most recently released version when it's still in the all the previous, also-hosted versions? :P |
| 17:59.18 | Kirkburn | ''+'''+'' .... the italic parts would be cancelled out ... time to test |
| 17:59.32 | Kirkburn | Because Mr. Complainer won't notice that |
| 17:59.40 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 17:59.50 | sancus | must be pretty damn dumb, then! |
| 17:59.55 | ScytheBlade1 | "Currently Active Users: 1756 (172 members and 1584 guests) |
| 17:59.56 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
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| 18:00.04 | Kirkburn | Haven't heard anything from him since :P |
| 18:00.12 | Kirov | http://wow.pastecode.com/3578 |
| 18:00.23 | Cairenn | he noticed it in your beta version on wowi, which is why I pulled it, too |
| 18:00.56 | Kirkburn | (actually, 7 x ' makes produces slightly odd stuff) |
| 18:00.59 | Beladona | did I miss something juicy? |
| 18:01.21 | Kirkburn | True ... didn't need the beta anyway :P |
| 18:01.38 | Kirkburn | Which is a point ... I still haven't looked at replacement fonts |
| 18:01.47 | Kirkburn | Beladona, no :P |
| 18:01.52 | Beladona | darn |
| 18:01.54 | Beladona | =) |
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| 18:02.20 | Kirkburn | Just the History Bus coming round for tea =) |
| 18:02.52 | Beladona | is it the "special" bus? |
| 18:03.10 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 18:03.25 | Cairenn | oh, he was "special" alright ... so special I wanted to reach through the monitor and smack him :p |
| 18:04.07 | Beladona | talking about captain tattletale and his daddy, Bill? |
| 18:04.11 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 18:04.32 | Cairenn | that'd be the guy |
| 18:04.45 | sancus | I would've just rehosted the mod myself and ignored him. |
| 18:04.57 | Beladona | maybe its a bad time to mention what font is used on my minimap mod |
| 18:05.01 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 18:05.08 | Kirkburn | Oh yes? |
| 18:05.09 | sancus | He really has no case at all if he's not a representative of Microsoft, so... |
| 18:05.20 | Kirkburn | He wasn't from MS, but he was annoying |
| 18:05.25 | sancus | Right. |
| 18:05.55 | sancus | So, if the UI sites don't want to touch it, that's fine! Like I said, I would've just rehosted it myself(the font, not the mod), and told him to go suck on an egg. |
| 18:06.06 | Kirkburn | I didn't do it to protect myself, it was mostly for the host website owners |
| 18:06.07 | Beladona | half of those fonts are just copies of existing fonts, with slight changes, before they become copyrighted |
| 18:06.21 | Kirkburn | I may just do that, tbh |
| 18:06.34 | AnduinLothar | maintinence extended till 1 yay |
| 18:06.36 | Kirkburn | In fact, why the hell not |
| 18:06.48 | Beladona | provide font packs |
| 18:06.48 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 18:06.53 | Beladona | self hosted |
| 18:07.02 | Codayus | Maintance extended two hours...what a surprise... |
| 18:07.07 | sancus | It's theoretically possible that he could contact microsoft and they could ask you to remove it, but in that case, you just comply /shrug, there's no risk at all. |
| 18:07.16 | sancus | I doubt he will be able to get in touch with anybody who gives a shit, though :P |
| 18:07.23 | Kirkburn | Me too :P |
| 18:07.37 | Beladona | my minimap uses Copperplate Gothic Bold -- (c) MS -- should I remove it? |
| 18:07.43 | Cairenn | a link to that in your file description would probably be completely missed *whistles innocently* |
| 18:07.43 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 18:07.48 | sancus | No? |
| 18:07.48 | Kirkburn | Death to Beladona ! ;) |
| 18:07.53 | sancus | ;p |
| 18:07.54 | Kirov | ~seen Mikk |
| 18:08.17 | purl | mikk is currently on #wowi-lounge (7h 10m 10s) #wowace (7h 10m 10s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 6h 28m 16s, last said: 'Well yeah but there's supposedly also a total limit per account'. |
| 18:08.18 | Beladona | you know what |
| 18:08.24 | Beladona | I have an idea for a lucrative business venture Kirkburn |
| 18:08.24 | Beladona | you want in? |
| 18:08.28 | Kirkburn | \o/ |
| 18:08.36 | Beladona | pitchfork salesman -- after all the riots we get in the wow ui arena |
| 18:08.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:10.16 | Beladona | my problem is, all the non-copyrighted fonts are too annoying and outrageous to want to use |
| 18:10.25 | Beladona | so I am left making my own |
| 18:10.34 | Beladona | which I might do |
| 18:11.43 | Beladona | hmmm, release of open source fonts for addon developers to freely distribute and use |
| 18:11.49 | Beladona | .... |
| 18:12.46 | Cairenn | front |
| 18:14.48 | Beladona | brbm gotta bring the net link down here at work, be about 10 minutes =P |
| 18:14.51 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tuller (n=chatzill@c-71-197-15-14.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 18:16.48 | Kirkburn | I've found 5 nice new fonts, now to attempt to test them :) |
| 18:20.23 | ScytheBlade1 | All right, who can I whine to concerning the website? |
| 18:20.38 | Kirkburn | Which? |
| 18:20.56 | Kalroth | ScytheBlade1: No, there will not be more nudies. |
| 18:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Kalroth, then how about this: if I click the arrow, and search addons for "Gatherer" |
| 18:21.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Kalroth, any chance that the addon I want could actually come up on the first page? |
| 18:22.15 | Kalroth | Fair enough :) |
| 18:22.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Kalroth, search the addons for Ace and Gatherer. In both occurances, the actual addon that I want is on the second *page*. Not second listing, but second page |
| 18:23.04 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18 |
| 18:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=27782#post27782 |
| 18:24.59 | ScytheBlade1 | There you are |
| 18:30.29 | Kirkburn | whiner :) |
| 18:30.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Lazy too. I just copied+pasted this into the post. |
| 18:30.29 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Beladona (n=sluster@24.129.136.26) |
| 18:30.32 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Beladona] by ChanServ |
| 18:30.32 | Kirkburn | Disable all addons isn't fixed until 1.12, no? |
| 18:30.46 | _RTE_ | yep |
| 18:30.50 | _RTE_ | if you mean per character bug |
| 18:31.01 | Kirkburn | yeah |
| 18:31.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | gahhh |
| 18:31.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | some realms are up |
| 18:31.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | but only like 8 |
| 18:31.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | 7 :/ |
| 18:31.02 | _RTE_ | lots of realms had a hardware update aswell as patch |
| 18:31.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 18:31.06 | Codayus | Including mine though. |
| 18:31.06 | Codayus | Yay |
| 18:31.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | my main did |
| 18:31.07 | _RTE_ | mine too :) |
| 18:31.07 | _RTE_ | about time Arthas got some new h/w |
| 18:31.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's *supposed* to be done at the same time as the simply patched realms |
| 18:31.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | since they started the upgrade process at 11 pm pst |
| 18:31.14 | _RTE_ | key word is *supposed*? :) |
| 18:31.22 | _RTE_ | you should know better by now |
| 18:31.27 | _RTE_ | it was 12 major patches and how many times have they brought servers back in time? |
| 18:33.10 | _RTE_ | probably just the first 2 or 3 |
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| 18:33.12 | Codayus | Hmm, CT_Viewport doesn't work anymore? |
| 18:33.13 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Elkano^wtf (n=elkano@p54A53A82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:34.39 | _RTE_ | I refuse to beleive that |
| 18:35.25 | _RTE_ | ~seen iriel |
| 18:35.41 | purl | iriel <n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 15h 3m 54s ago, saying: 'Well, without any test realms tonight it's going to be less fun than normal for me'. |
| 18:36.07 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | >< |
| 18:36.14 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | Iriel is another fake girl? |
| 18:36.23 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | You people need to learn to play your gender |
| 18:36.24 | _RTE_ | he never claimed to be a girl |
| 18:36.35 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | yeah yeah yeah, avatar and all that |
| 18:36.37 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | blah blah |
| 18:36.41 | _RTE_ | :) |
| 18:37.03 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | the list of potential stalk victims is getting shorter by the minute >< |
| 18:37.15 | _RTE_ | well, it is much more pleasing to look at the ass of the char of oposite gender hours streight :) |
| 18:37.23 | Beladona | holy bloddy hell |
| 18:37.32 | Codayus | ? |
| 18:37.40 | _RTE_ | bloddy hell holy? |
| 18:37.42 | AnduinLothar | i agree |
| 18:37.44 | Beladona | like 5 servers come up, so I log into one to test, and there are literally about 500 people in the newbie area |
| 18:37.51 | Codayus | lol |
| 18:37.51 | Cairenn | bloddy? |
| 18:37.51 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | lol |
| 18:37.52 | Codayus | addicts? |
| 18:37.55 | _RTE_ | lool |
| 18:37.58 | Beladona | at least |
| 18:38.00 | AnduinLothar | suprised? |
| 18:38.00 | Beladona | if not more |
| 18:38.12 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | wheeee fileplanet is almost done downloading |
| 18:38.15 | _RTE_ | at least theres no queue ... or is there? |
| 18:38.18 | Beladona | guess I shouldn't be, but mid-day? |
| 18:38.19 | Kirkburn | Woop, I have found my replacement font, I think :) |
| 18:38.41 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | logging in over a vnc is going to suck but at least I'll get the download finished |
| 18:39.08 | Codayus | Heh, my server has a queue of 12. |
| 18:39.18 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: grats |
| 18:39.19 | _RTE_ | thats why you have someone at home to start d/l while you at work :) |
| 18:39.40 | Beladona | its a bunch of tards too |
| 18:39.44 | Kirkburn | Now to see hwo to set it all up |
| 18:39.47 | Beladona | they are spamming chat |
| 18:39.52 | Beladona | I can't ignore fast enough |
| 18:39.57 | Kirov | Codayus - I logged in once to a queue of 1, and had to wait for a minute. |
| 18:40.12 | Codayus | heh |
| 18:40.15 | Beladona | oh and those new servers? |
| 18:40.21 | Beladona | already have a 500 person queue |
| 18:40.33 | Shadowed | well, only 7 things are up. everyone wants to get on |
| 18:40.39 | Beladona | lol |
| 18:40.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause everyone's swarming them cause there's nowhere else to go :P |
| 18:40.59 | Beladona | thats why I don't think Blizz should bring up a few at a time |
| 18:41.09 | Beladona | they should get them all up, but have access shut off |
| 18:41.18 | Beladona | then switch them to green at once |
| 18:41.54 | TS|Skrom|Lunch | arby's sucks they always fill the cup with too much ice >< |
| 18:42.28 | _RTE_ | They should bring em up just like they do, all they need is to disable char creation for that time |
| 18:42.51 | Shadowed | I require servers :( |
| 18:44.28 | Cide | Codayus: CT_Viewport is working fine here... |
| 18:44.33 | Codayus | Hm |
| 18:44.37 | _RTE_ | thank god |
| 18:44.41 | Codayus | I seem to be having more general problems. |
| 18:44.51 | Codayus | Stuff isn't always updating. |
| 18:44.59 | _RTE_ | "load out of date addons" checkmark? |
| 18:45.01 | Codayus | Fullscreen windowed mode may be the issue. :-/ |
| 18:45.28 | TS|Skrom | RTE I sincerely hope no mod author goes through patch day without wowtoc |
| 18:45.41 | Codayus | Briefly the "black" areas in ct viewport were kinda strobing. |
| 18:45.52 | Codayus | That's gone away though. <shrug> |
| 18:45.54 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kirkburn1 (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net) |
| 18:46.36 | _RTE_ | Cide, are you planing to place black squares ontop of the non-rendered areas in CT_Viewport? |
| 18:46.53 | TS|Skrom | make em turqoise |
| 18:47.17 | _RTE_ | :) |
| 18:48.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | same 7 realms :[ |
| 18:48.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, and what does CT_Viewport do? :O |
| 18:48.26 | Cairenn | wowtoc indeed! gonna get yourself kicked from channel you keep talking about crap like that! |
| 18:48.38 | TS|Skrom | O.o |
| 18:49.00 | TS|Skrom | eh? |
| 18:49.32 | _RTE_ | <Mr_Rabies2>: this is exactelly the reson to get a job :) |
| 18:49.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft |
| 18:50.06 | _RTE_ | personally, I could care less how many servers are online now :) |
| 18:50.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to be the server first for ferocious bite rank 5 |
| 18:50.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 18:50.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was one of the first for idol of ferocity |
| 18:50.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | same with brutality |
| 18:50.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | but first is my goal here |
| 18:50.41 | Gngsk | you know where it drops? |
| 18:50.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 18:50.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | the beast |
| 18:50.56 | Gngsk | what about evisc? |
| 18:51.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh |
| 18:51.06 | _RTE_ | and I want to be first to ... to ... lifetap to death? |
| 18:51.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | the assassins i think gngsk |
| 18:51.16 | Gngsk | cool |
| 18:51.41 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: WoWTOC is not only unnecessary (since there's a "load out of date addons" checkbox) but it's also a bad practice in general. |
| 18:51.45 | _RTE_ | yeah, assasins in brm, it's said in patch notes |
| 18:52.41 | TS|Skrom | Why is it bad practice? Some addons I use will never see another update in their life. Sure it's unnecessary, however my brother in law is a techno weenie and spends about 4 days after every patch wondering why half of his mods don't work because he always forgets to recheck the box |
| 18:52.53 | TS|Skrom | so I made him a macro he runs which runs wowtoc before it runs wow.exe |
| 18:53.04 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.51 | _RTE_ | _/slap indeed |
| 18:53.53 | cogwheel | So what happens when one of his addons actually stops working because of changes and he doesn't know which ones are out of date? |
| 18:53.54 | Cide | if people want to update their .toc files then I don't see why that's a problem, but oh well |
| 18:54.08 | Cide | it used to be a problem when there was no checkbox for load outdated addons |
| 18:54.32 | TS|Skrom | He calls me and says "such and such" stopped working. And I say (because I thoroughly check all addons each patch) it's this: go here to download a new version |
| 18:54.39 | Cide | _RTE_: CT_Viewport already puts a black area over those regions, so.. yeah |
| 18:54.46 | _RTE_ | btw, does anyone know a way to prevent checkbox from getting unchecked every patch? |
| 18:55.01 | Cide | Mr_Rabies2: CT_Viewport modifies the game's viewport, like /viewport did in EQ if you ever played that |
| 18:55.01 | AnduinLothar | kill the right people |
| 18:55.05 | _RTE_ | Cide: hmm, I mustev have an old version then |
| 18:55.09 | TS|Skrom | don't think you can. Can't be an addon since addons can't do anything prior to the load screen |
| 18:55.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never played EQ :[ |
| 18:55.14 | Cairenn | TS|Skrom: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=425495&tmp=1#post425495 |
| 18:55.15 | Cairenn | :p |
| 18:55.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | are there any screens of what it can do, cide? |
| 18:55.29 | wereHamster | _RTE_, make WTF\Config.wtf read-only |
| 18:55.37 | cogwheel | The second comment on Curse's wowtoc page says it pretty well |
| 18:55.42 | Cide | it resizes the rendered game view, in case you don't want your interface to block the game view |
| 18:55.53 | _RTE_ | wereHamster: interesting idea :) |
| 18:56.09 | wereHamster | chmod -w ^^ |
| 18:56.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohhh, okay cide |
| 18:56.29 | Cide | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full1751.jpg <- the frame |
| 18:56.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you can have the interface outside the 3d world |
| 18:56.33 | Cide | doesn't show it "in action" |
| 18:56.34 | _RTE_ | nah, right-click, read-only, apply :) |
| 18:56.34 | Cide | yep |
| 18:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | not bad |
| 18:57.07 | Cairenn | cogwheel: actually, I think the very first one is even more apt |
| 18:57.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | not my cup of tea, but i see why people could like it |
| 18:57.14 | cogwheel | I just noticed that |
| 18:57.53 | _RTE_ | here's an example of use of CT_Viewport: http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/1435/ui9ju.jpg |
| 18:57.59 | Arrowmaster | create an empty file named WTF\RunOnce.wtf and make it readonly |
| 18:58.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | do you use a theater screen as a monitor, holy crap RTE |
| 18:58.40 | _RTE_ | 2 screens |
| 18:59.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohhh, you can mvoe that stuff other to other screens? |
| 18:59.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | nice |
| 18:59.15 | Kaso | Viewport seriously doesnt like it if you use <0.64 UI scale :> |
| 18:59.29 | _RTE_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=355343&p=1 |
| 18:59.38 | _RTE_ | 2screen FAQ |
| 18:59.44 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full1751.jpg |
| 18:59.47 | Cide | I use .64 ui scale with viewport just fine |
| 18:59.52 | TS|Skrom | never thought about it taht way Cair, and that's a good point. |
| 18:59.53 | Cide | too late, Cairenn! |
| 19:00.03 | TS|Skrom | I think in my brother's case though the merits outweight the disadvantages |
| 19:00.13 | TS|Skrom | especially since he can just run wowtoc and wait for me to tell him what to fix |
| 19:00.29 | Cairenn | TS|Skrom: *only* because he has you to tell him what to fix |
| 19:00.32 | TS|Skrom | if I didn't help him he'd prolly quit wow altogether lol |
| 19:00.34 | TS|Skrom | right |
| 19:00.39 | Cide | I'm glad it works with dual monitors though, was kinda tricky to make it support all resolutions and stuff |
| 19:00.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god i hate georgia summers |
| 19:00.52 | TS|Skrom | yeah what you posted is very true for people on their own and I see that not |
| 19:00.52 | Oree | ok, so I'm half (or 1'third) deacent at Lua, thought taking the responsebility for making bossmods with RDX for the guild was a good oppertunity to learn som LUA (and scripting in general). Boy was I wrong, the drama.. the drama :)) |
| 19:00.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's so hot and humid and random thunderstorms and aaagghrhrhhghgh |
| 19:00.54 | TS|Skrom | er now |
| 19:00.55 | Kaso | Cide i use 0.55 and the draggy box thing goes crazy on me |
| 19:01.34 | Cide | hm? |
| 19:01.54 | Cide | hehe, yeah it does |
| 19:01.55 | TS|Skrom | i'm queue 619 on forgotten coast .... |
| 19:02.00 | Cairenn | so, now you understand why saying that wowtoc is all that will get you smacked in this channel |
| 19:02.13 | TS|Skrom | lol yeah I do |
| 19:02.24 | JoshBorke | wowtoc is all |
| 19:02.39 | JoshBorke | Mr_Rabies2, you're in Georgia too? |
| 19:02.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed |
| 19:02.46 | Cairenn | nice try JoshBorke, but I know how much you'd enjoy it |
| 19:02.56 | TS|Skrom | besides Cairenn is all anyway |
| 19:03.02 | Cide | Kaso: you should see the hack to make it do that though |
| 19:03.04 | TS|Skrom | wowtoc doesn't hold a candle |
| 19:03.05 | JoshBorke | ~hug Cairenn |
| 19:03.07 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 19:03.11 | JoshBorke | Mr_Rabies2, nice storm last night, eh? |
| 19:03.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least i'm in northern GA, though |
| 19:03.17 | Cide | I guess I shouldn't have used :StartSizing |
| 19:03.17 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 19:03.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | southern, ohgodi'dbedead |
| 19:03.27 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 19:05.34 | TS|Skrom | man... wow over vnc is painful >< |
| 19:05.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | come back llane i miss you :[ |
| 19:05.40 | Kirkburn1 | Woop four font packs sorted :) |
| 19:05.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, yeah it is skrom |
| 19:05.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially over the internet |
| 19:05.51 | TS|Skrom | and I'm still on the connect queue |
| 19:06.02 | TS|Skrom | actually I'm technically on wow over vnc over rdp |
| 19:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i patched over vnc via the internet from my dorm |
| 19:06.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | not fun |
| 19:06.31 | TS|Skrom | I connected to my server which has 4 gigs ram and 2 processors just so the java vnc client would run better |
| 19:06.58 | MentalPower | Servers are comming online!!! |
| 19:07.00 | AnduinLothar | who the hell thought it would eb a good idea to bring up only 7 servers.. |
| 19:07.05 | MentalPower | 7 so far |
| 19:07.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | 7's a lucky number zomgomzomzomg |
| 19:07.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | 7 have been up for almost an hour, MentalPower |
| 19:08.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | its cool :P |
| 19:08.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | not everyone is as addicted as to sit at the realm selection screen for hours |
| 19:09.36 | _RTE_ | Alright, who can help me make a complex thingy in xml? |
| 19:09.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohgoditslikeathousanddegreesinhere |
| 19:09.42 | Shadowed | wru ctprofiles :( |
| 19:10.58 | _RTE_ | I need an analog of chat window, but with selectable text |
| 19:11.38 | _RTE_ | Cairenn, you have extra spacebars? :) |
| 19:12.25 | Cairenn | I've got entire extra keyboards ;) |
| 19:12.37 | _RTE_ | that does not count ;P |
| 19:12.46 | Cairenn | heh, sure it does |
| 19:13.16 | Cairenn | see? it counts |
| 19:13.19 | _RTE_ | lol |
| 19:13.27 | zenzelezz | what does he need two spacebars for? |
| 19:13.33 | _RTE_ | now you have one less extra keyboard :) |
| 19:13.37 | Cairenn | he seems to have lost his |
| 19:13.47 | zenzelezz | but you already gave him one |
| 19:14.04 | _RTE_ | that if he loses it :) |
| 19:14.30 | Cairenn | ah, I see what you mean now ... I was just showing _RTE_ how it works ;) |
| 19:14.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry about the scripted spam there cairenn |
| 19:15.12 | Cairenn | hehehe, just teasing ya Mr_Rabies, no worries |
| 19:15.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's mostly for the other irc networks i'm on in which random slap fights occur :x |
| 19:15.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait |
| 19:15.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | the server blocked them |
| 19:16.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) |
| 19:16.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | when someone emotes to me it /notices them annoying text :O |
| 19:16.49 | Cairenn | gotcha |
| 19:19.37 | Kirkburn1 | Busy day on the wiki, I see |
| 19:19.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think my house might be built over a fiery pit to hell that opens once every thousand years |
| 19:19.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause holy crap i'm dying here |
| 19:19.52 | Hexarobi | thatd be a good nerd-rock song |
| 19:19.58 | Hexarobi | a love song to wikipedia |
| 19:23.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Iriel (n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:23.24 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 19:23.35 | Iriel | It's unusually calm in the jungle today |
| 19:23.36 | Cairenn | hey hey Iriel |
| 19:23.39 | Cairenn | happy patch day |
| 19:23.45 | Cairenn | lol, forums aren't up yet |
| 19:23.46 | _RTE_ | heya Iriel |
| 19:23.54 | _RTE_ | ^ indeed |
| 19:24.10 | Iriel | Indeed, i'm sick but it's probably useful since I have time to update addons. |
| 19:24.16 | Iriel | Hm, i'm logged into them just fine |
| 19:24.19 | Iriel | Lucky me I guess |
| 19:24.29 | zenzelezz | I must say I like playing on EU servers way better than on US servers... now the weekly downtime isn't in the middle of the day for me |
| 19:25.39 | _RTE_ | oh, Iriel, maybe you could help me |
| 19:26.02 | _RTE_ | I rememeber you had something close to what I want in one of your addons (I think) |
| 19:26.13 | Iriel | What would that be? |
| 19:26.13 | Cairenn | DevTools :p |
| 19:26.58 | _RTE_ | I need a chat-like window (ie scrollable 100+ lines), not editable by user and with ability to select text |
| 19:27.06 | Beladona | Iriel, I could use your help with something very simple |
| 19:27.26 | Cairenn | Iriel: /sympathy on being sick |
| 19:27.48 | Iriel | Hm.. I have no idea if SimpleHTML is selectable, but that's all I could think it could be |
| 19:28.01 | Iriel | Or possibly just ScrollingMessageFrame like actual chat |
| 19:28.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there any kind of updated ETA on the rest of the realms? :[ |
| 19:28.11 | Iriel | Beladona : What do you need? |
| 19:28.13 | zenzelezz | don't editboxes have a read-only flag? |
| 19:28.15 | Iriel | Cairenn : Thanks. |
| 19:28.42 | TS|Skrom | is this valid: getglobal(this:GetName().."SliderValueText"):SetText(getglobal(this:GetName()):GetValue()*100).."%"; |
| 19:28.44 | Beladona | Iriel: rank progression as returned by UnitPVPRank goes like this no? 0 (no rank), 5, 4, 3, 2, 1? |
| 19:28.48 | Iriel | zenzelezz : I dont think so. |
| 19:28.57 | zenzelezz | how odd :-o Ought to have |
| 19:29.17 | Iriel | Beladona : I actually have no idea! One of the downsides of largely playing on a non-PVP server. |
| 19:29.23 | Iriel | Let me see if the code makes it obvious |
| 19:29.24 | _RTE_ | TS|Skrom : yes |
| 19:29.24 | Beladona | hmm |
| 19:29.50 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Gryphen (n=gryphon@mail.alexdevco.com) |
| 19:29.52 | TS|Skrom | I'm getting "Attempt to call a nil value" |
| 19:30.02 | Beladona | see, I have this status bar, that displays via tooltip your current rank. Which works perfectly. But to get the next rank I was offsetting by +1, which does work as long as you have a rank |
| 19:30.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | woot |
| 19:30.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | server's UP |
| 19:30.14 | Cairenn | bleh, still can't log in to forums |
| 19:30.14 | _RTE_ | where exactelly? |
| 19:30.17 | Beladona | but if you don't have one, it always comes up as Pariah |
| 19:30.22 | Beladona | which is obviously wrong |
| 19:30.29 | Iriel | TS|Skrom : Why are you not just doing 'this:GetValue()' in the second clause? |
| 19:30.35 | TS|Skrom | that particular exchange happens OnValueChanged for a slider |
| 19:30.48 | TS|Skrom | happens on load (when the saved variable gets set) and also whenever you drag the slider |
| 19:30.52 | Iriel | TS|Skrom : And are you sure that your text is called "WhateverSliderSliderValueText" ? |
| 19:30.58 | _RTE_ | ah .."%" should be inside the bracket |
| 19:31.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | used to when you decayed below scout or private, you'd get pariah i think |
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| 19:31.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe you still get it, but its hidden? |
| 19:32.09 | Iriel | Let me see what GetPVPRankInfo says |
| 19:32.15 | TS|Skrom | Iriel, no I am not entirely sure.... I made a <Layer level="ARTWORK"> |
| 19:32.15 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.24 | TS|Skrom | inside the <slider> |
| 19:32.39 | _RTE_ | TS|Skrom : wrong |
| 19:32.40 | TS|Skrom | and my slider is named <Slider name="$parentSliderOverheal" |
| 19:32.56 | TS|Skrom | kk I figured hehe |
| 19:33.00 | Iriel | That should be right then. If your <Layer> is inside a <Layers> |
| 19:33.21 | TS|Skrom | how does parent get set? |
| 19:33.34 | TS|Skrom | <frame><slider><layers><layer>? |
| 19:34.08 | _RTE_ | When I tried that it did not work for me |
| 19:34.11 | _RTE_ | try this: |
| 19:35.20 | _RTE_ | <frames><frame><slider name="abc">...</slider></frame></frames><layers><layer><fontstring name="abcSliderValueText">... |
| 19:35.26 | _RTE_ | works great for me |
| 19:35.32 | Iriel | That's wrong RTE |
| 19:35.37 | Iriel | <slider is a frame |
| 19:35.39 | Iriel | so you'd want |
| 19:35.44 | Iriel | <frames><slider> |
| 19:36.06 | Iriel | with correct caps, obviously |
| 19:36.15 | Codayus | Is there a way to use lua to change video options? |
| 19:36.15 | Iriel | $parent is set by the parser, to the appropriate parent name |
| 19:36.17 | _RTE_ | yeah, you're right |
| 19:36.27 | _RTE_ | nor <frame></frame> in mine |
| 19:36.28 | Iriel | Codayus : Yes, that's how the UI options are implemented |
| 19:36.34 | TS|Skrom | what's that site to post code with? |
| 19:36.49 | Codayus | That's what I thought. Umm...how? |
| 19:36.55 | Iriel | Beladona : Ranks below 5 are the 'negative honor' ones |
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| 19:36.59 | _RTE_ | http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 19:37.06 | Iriel | Beladona : 5 is scout, 1 is pariah (the worst) |
| 19:37.14 | Iriel | The 'good' ranks increase from 5 |
| 19:37.26 | Beladona | weird |
| 19:37.32 | TS|Skrom | http://wowi.pastey.net/362 |
| 19:37.37 | Beladona | but no rank is always 0 |
| 19:37.56 | Iriel | yes |
| 19:38.04 | Beladona | so that means I am going to have to get the faction, and then set the base rank depending on their faction |
| 19:38.08 | Iriel | consider '0' undefined. |
| 19:38.15 | cogwheel | Codayus: look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Config.wtf_defaults and also look up SetCVar, GetCVar, and RestartGx |
| 19:38.15 | Beladona | they couldn't just make it easy |
| 19:38.56 | Iriel | Interface/FrameXML/OptionsFrame.lua has all the video stuff in |
| 19:39.41 | Codayus | Oh, thanks. I was using SetCVar, but it wasn't working, so I assumed that wasn't the right way. RestartGx() was the step I was missing. |
| 19:43.20 | Iriel | Beladona : You could just use GetPVPRankInfo(5, faction) |
| 19:44.59 | Iriel | In fact, you dont have to hard code 5 |
| 19:45.15 | TS|Skrom | figured it out |
| 19:45.48 | TS|Skrom | getglobal(this:GetName().."SliderValueText"):SetText(getglobal(this:GetName()):GetValue()*100).."%"; - was in fact, not valid |
| 19:45.58 | Iriel | the 2nd return from GetPVPRankInfo counts down from 5 to 1 then from 1 back up to N |
| 19:45.58 | TS|Skrom | I needed to move the ) after 100 to after the final " |
| 19:46.05 | Iriel | so you can just find the point at which it starts counting up again |
| 19:46.26 | Iriel | TS|Skrom : RTE spotted that a while back, but that doesn't necessarily explain the exact error you had. |
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| 19:50.12 | Industrial | hmm I remember having seen an addon that lets you move frames that are registered with it in some 'moving' mode wich just paces a frame over them and anchors the frame you want to move to that oh never mind ill make it myself |
| 19:50.18 | TS|Skrom | ahh I missed where he pointed that out |
| 19:50.23 | TS|Skrom | I changed it and it works now like expected |
| 19:51.04 | AnduinLothar | MobileFrames or MoveAnything? |
| 19:51.19 | _RTE_ | <Industrial> : MoveAnything? DiscordFrameMover?> |
| 19:51.20 | Industrial | thanks ill look |
| 19:51.24 | Industrial | but certainly not moveanything |
| 19:51.30 | Industrial | and no discord either |
| 19:51.32 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:52.25 | Industrial | mmmm nope Ill make one myself |
| 19:53.06 | Iriel | Oh, look at that, "Show Own Name" is now an option |
| 19:53.10 | Iriel | How long's that been there? |
| 19:53.17 | Cairenn | it is? |
| 19:53.33 | Cairenn | so it is! |
| 19:53.35 | Cairenn | nice |
| 19:53.42 | Iriel | New in 1.12 - handy |
| 19:53.53 | TS|Skrom | is there some way to force a number in xml to be an int? |
| 19:54.02 | AnduinLothar | yay autoself cast |
| 19:54.03 | Industrial | theres no int, only number |
| 19:54.10 | TS|Skrom | what I thought |
| 19:54.17 | TS|Skrom | or at least what I thought I had read haha |
| 19:54.23 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 19:54.44 | _RTE_ | That is exactelly why I had CF_round function in code I showed you :) |
| 19:55.12 | TS|Skrom | I couldn't just call math.ceil(V) over it huh? |
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| 19:55.37 | _RTE_ | you could |
| 19:56.56 | cogwheel | not in the XML |
| 19:57.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | now if only they had "show own healthbar" when you hit v |
| 19:57.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 19:57.23 | TS|Skrom | Well for crying out loud. |
| 19:57.28 | TS|Skrom | I thought I had tried math.ceil before... |
| 19:57.36 | TS|Skrom | just added it and it worked perfectly |
| 19:57.48 | cogwheel | in an XML property or in Lua code? |
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| 19:59.47 | cogwheel | your original question was "is there some way to force a number in xml to be an int?" |
| 19:59.48 | _RTE_ | you just need to know what he's doing to understand him |
| 19:59.48 | _RTE_ | he's trying to show status of the slider |
| 19:59.48 | TS|Skrom | oh sorry in lua |
| 20:01.59 | TS|Skrom | well kinda, it's IN the xml file but I'm calling math.ceil(getglobal(this):Getvalue()*100) or some variation that actually runs lol |
| 20:02.11 | cogwheel | do you want it to round or truncate? a simple truncate is math.floor(num). rounding is math.floor(num+0.5) |
| 20:02.38 | cogwheel | the problem with using ceil is that it will always round up (e.g. ceil(1.0000001) == 2) |
| 20:02.43 | AnduinLothar | lol extended till 4pm |
| 20:03.10 | Cairenn | fair few up now though |
| 20:03.15 | Cairenn | still not all, but some |
| 20:03.48 | Beladona | cool, got the faction/rank thing working, thanks Iriel |
| 20:03.48 | AnduinLothar | an alt of mine is up so i have a lvl 5 for testing, but no main for pvp pwnage |
| 20:04.00 | TS|Skrom | truncate is sufficient |
| 20:04.17 | TS|Skrom | ahh didn't know that about ceil, will switch to floor then |
| 20:05.19 | TS|Skrom | well.. that explains why I was getting 101 last night haha! |
| 20:05.24 | _RTE_ | well, floor(1.99999999)=1 |
| 20:06.08 | AnduinLothar | :) finally made ChatBar's reorder work w/o Sky |
| 20:06.21 | Cairenn | nice |
| 20:06.43 | chuckg | I'm still waiting for blizzard to allow us to leave trade and channels of a city type while NOT in a city. |
| 20:06.51 | chuckg | Hate when trade takes over my /1 /2 |
| 20:08.00 | _RTE_ | anywho, time for the afternoon tea |
| 20:08.16 | Cairenn | later _RTE_ |
| 20:08.37 | _RTE_ | tea > working hehe :) |
| 20:09.09 | AnduinLothar | never fails to amuse me that I get tells asking why i'm naked.. |
| 20:09.27 | AnduinLothar | since all my test chars have never worn anythign but a weapon |
| 20:09.39 | TS|Skrom | Well maybe it's just the way I'm doing things that needs improving. I'm running a slider... min 0 max 1 step .01 but it's not doing hard stops every .01 so I'm getting numbers like .24000000765 |
| 20:10.01 | TS|Skrom | when I display that on the tooltip I'm taking the math.ceil(value * 100) |
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| 20:10.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha 75 wsgs in our battlegroup |
| 20:10.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love it |
| 20:10.09 | TS|Skrom | to get rid of the extras |
| 20:10.29 | TS|Skrom | am I doing something wrong that's causing the extra decimal digits? |
| 20:11.06 | cogwheel | looks like approximation error to me. You should do some reading up on floating point arithmetic :) |
| 20:11.18 | AnduinLothar | hawt rabies |
| 20:11.37 | TS|Skrom | hrm.. but I'm not declaring anything except what the slider is telling me |
| 20:11.51 | TS|Skrom | slider = 0 to 1 step by .01 |
| 20:12.22 | TS|Skrom | I guess that "step by .01" is just "as close as it gets to .01?" |
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| 20:13.01 | TS|Skrom | I mean it's no big deal I've worked around it |
| 20:13.14 | TS|Skrom | but I was just trying to figure out if I was doing something wrong and causing it to happen lol |
| 20:13.19 | cogwheel | you missed the point, TS|Skrom... computers represent floating point numbers in binary but we think in decimal... think of it this way: 1/3 in decimal is 0.333333333333333... repeating... however, in base 3 it's 0.1... The computer can't represent decimals with perfect accuracy |
| 20:13.30 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point |
| 20:13.47 | TS|Skrom | I like to have clean code where possible, it's why I'm rewriting this in the first place hehe |
| 20:13.53 | TS|Skrom | thanks for the link, I'll be sure to read up on that |
| 20:14.01 | Hexarobi | ya floating point numbers suck, you can go from binary to floating point, but going from floating point to binary sucks balls |
| 20:14.56 | Hexarobi | no one in the class got it right |
| 20:15.11 | cogwheel | how'd the calculator project go? |
| 20:15.13 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 20:15.54 | Hexarobi | heh, i didnt turn it in |
| 20:16.00 | Hexarobi | still pulled a C in the class |
| 20:16.08 | Hexarobi | he had to give a 70 point curve |
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| 20:17.29 | Grumpey | afternoon |
| 20:17.40 | Cairenn | hi Grumpey |
| 20:18.46 | Shadowed | ugh |
| 20:18.52 | Shadowed | you can no longer get the server type of people in cross server bg's |
| 20:20.25 | Oree | awevwe type ? |
| 20:20.30 | Oree | eh, server type? |
| 20:20.58 | Shadowed | PVE, PVP, RP, RP-PVP |
| 20:21.26 | Oree | ah |
| 20:21.45 | Oree | So pooled servers are mixed server types? |
| 20:22.14 | sancus | why does it matter what server type they are |
| 20:23.56 | Cairenn | man, Es better not give me grief tonight about the lack of stress thread on blizz forums, been trying to log in all day |
| 20:26.30 | Iriel | Whee, and wow takes out my system AGAIN.. It's really odd, I can play just fine but shortly after logging out, down it goes |
| 20:29.59 | AnduinLothar | lolc cair |
| 20:30.10 | AnduinLothar | damned if you don't, eh? |
| 20:30.29 | Iriel | well, if nobody can log in, there's not goingv to be any visible stress |
| 20:31.15 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:31.29 | zenzelezz | stoop and be stepped on, stand tall and be shot at |
| 20:31.54 | Cairenn | I think I'll survive it ;) |
| 20:33.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | woops |
| 20:33.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | no mobs on kalimdor |
| 20:33.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | and AQ's shut |
| 20:33.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha |
| 20:33.59 | Shadowed | So battlegroups are already broken |
| 20:34.04 | Shadowed | whee |
| 20:36.44 | Warla | broken? |
| 20:36.49 | Warla | myserver isnt even up.... |
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| 20:41.03 | Kirov | Half the servers are down. |
| 20:41.09 | AnduinLothar | Now.. to begin the hell that is updating all the sites with my 46 updated addons |
| 20:41.11 | Kirov | Those that are up are dirt slow |
| 20:41.44 | Kirov | Someone needs to make a damned update program for this kind of thing. |
| 20:42.13 | AnduinLothar | need to get Cosmos v3 workign so i don't have to |
| 20:42.23 | Kirov | heh |
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| 20:42.37 | AnduinLothar | v3's gonna have individual downlaods |
| 20:45.11 | JoshBorke | liar! |
| 20:45.21 | JoshBorke | sorry what? |
| 20:45.29 | Osagasu | So what is Alphamap and why isn't it actually in the alpha branch? :P |
| 20:46.02 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4411 |
| 20:46.05 | Cairenn | is alphamap |
| 20:46.18 | Gryphen | it will be in 15 minutes |
| 20:52.11 | _RTE_ | so, are the servers up yet? |
| 20:52.24 | Cairenn | a handful |
| 20:52.29 | _RTE_ | same 7? |
| 20:52.42 | Shadowed | no, like 30 |
| 20:52.43 | Cairenn | no, been more than 7 for a while now, but most still down |
| 20:52.50 | _RTE_ | I c |
| 20:53.26 | Osagasu | Both of my servers are up. 8) |
| 20:53.51 | Osagasu | Jealous, dearie? :P |
| 20:53.58 | Cairenn | you betcha |
| 20:54.03 | Shadowed | Iriel: For druid forums if you're in Cheetah you have to click Cheetah to leave it, then you have to click the other form. So if you're in cheetah and want to move to cat you have to click cheetah, then cat |
| 20:54.15 | Shadowed | the person probably wants something so that they can click cat and it cancels any active form, then cat again and it casts it |
| 20:55.05 | Osagasu | Time to see what the patch broke for me. |
| 20:55.25 | Osagasu | And I hope that's what they want, cause that's the closest they're gonna get |
| 20:56.51 | _RTE_ | woot it's almoust 5pm |
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| 21:00.20 | _RTE_ | ^^^^^ |
| 21:00.28 | _RTE_ | |<><>| |
| 21:00.37 | _RTE_ | |\__/| |
| 21:00.59 | _RTE_ | well, later everyone |
| 21:01.07 | _RTE_ | happy patch day |
| 21:01.14 | Silv | sad oRA day:( |
| 21:01.14 | Cairenn | later _ |
| 21:01.22 | Cairenn | _RTE_ |
| 21:01.28 | _RTE_ | time to go home and face immenent doom |
| 21:01.33 | Shadowed | What happened to ORA? |
| 21:01.37 | Cairenn | ~doom song |
| 21:01.43 | purl | "Doom doom doom doom doom doom doom ...." |
| 21:02.15 | AnduinLothar | yay grr |
| 21:02.23 | Silv | nothing it just wont be 1.12 compat using the addon communication system which breaks compatibility with the new CTRA which makes for unhappy guild |
| 21:02.54 | AnduinLothar | did ecastingbar get updated? |
| 21:03.09 | chuckg | NOOO |
| 21:03.10 | chuckg | ANDUIN |
| 21:03.13 | chuckg | Fix mobile frames. |
| 21:03.15 | chuckg | ASAP |
| 21:03.16 | Silv | which makes me out of guild raid compliance if i dont run something compatible with durability / item / resist checks etc |
| 21:03.18 | Shadowed | Why would it break compbat with CTRA? |
| 21:03.21 | Shadowed | just use the same prefix |
| 21:03.33 | AnduinLothar | chuckg, it's already fixed |
| 21:03.39 | chuckg | The alwaysup thing? |
| 21:03.49 | chuckg | Link me latest? I forget where I got it originally. |
| 21:03.55 | chuckg | I need to remove the tooltip when I drag though. |
| 21:03.56 | chuckg | That bugs me. |
| 21:04.15 | AnduinLothar | it's only inthe cosmos alpha atm |
| 21:05.15 | chuckg | The one listed here? http://www.cosmosui.org/index.php?p=download |
| 21:05.21 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 21:05.43 | TS|Skrom | anyone know anythiung about outlook? |
| 21:05.47 | TS|Skrom | 2003? |
| 21:06.03 | TS|Skrom | Specifically how to set your contacts folder as your default address book over the global address list |
| 21:06.04 | Beladona | minimap and statusbars updated -- now with more chocalatey goodness |
| 21:06.08 | Cairenn | it's a DB program |
| 21:06.16 | Cairenn | mmmm, chocolate! |
| 21:06.48 | Beladona | working on a config ui for it, but for now its all slash commands |
| 21:07.05 | Beladona | and finally got the honor bar working =P |
| 21:07.13 | Cairenn | grats |
| 21:07.28 | Beladona | time to go home, seeya all laters |
| 21:13.18 | Cairenn | oh, he just made a liar of us all! |
| 21:13.22 | AnduinLothar | login server ate it |
| 21:13.34 | Legorol | hi guys |
| 21:13.39 | Legorol | how are the new cross-realm BGs fairing? |
| 21:13.41 | AnduinLothar | wow, it's a legorol |
| 21:13.42 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: GUESS what just got updated on WoWI? |
| 21:13.55 | AnduinLothar | um.. atlas? |
| 21:13.59 | Cairenn | rofl, yes |
| 21:14.14 | chuckg | No more seahooks huh Anduin? |
| 21:14.16 | AnduinLothar | that's ok. i don't liek it anyway |
| 21:14.18 | chuckg | Nice =D |
| 21:14.24 | AnduinLothar | ? |
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| 21:14.29 | chuckg | In mobileframes. |
| 21:14.43 | AnduinLothar | the version in Cosmos has deps. it's not standalone |
| 21:14.48 | chuckg | Noooooooooooo. |
| 21:15.11 | AnduinLothar | i fuckign wrote SeaHooks, stop whining. |
| 21:15.16 | Gryphen | lol |
| 21:15.24 | chuckg | I know you did. |
| 21:15.32 | chuckg | Just thought you removed the library altogether. |
| 21:15.32 | AnduinLothar | i will kill you all |
| 21:15.41 | chuckg | I don't care which library it is, I don't like using them =D |
| 21:15.53 | Legorol | libraries are good for you! |
| 21:15.56 | Legorol | stop blaming them |
| 21:16.00 | AnduinLothar | indescriminante ignorance. yay |
| 21:16.04 | chuckg | Yup! |
| 21:16.13 | AnduinLothar | ha, i broke my server |
| 21:16.15 | cladhaire | ha ha! My Clique plugin was smarter than me =) |
| 21:16.21 | AnduinLothar | it's the only one that went down |
| 21:16.36 | TS|Skrom | stay away from mine >< |
| 21:17.00 | TS|Skrom | wait, what do I care I'm going out tonight lol |
| 21:17.01 | MentalPower | chuckg: I guess you don't use Auctionner either |
| 21:17.09 | chuckg | Nope. |
| 21:17.22 | TS|Skrom | bye all |
| 21:17.22 | chuckg | If I toss in SeaHooks\SeaHooks.lua, that should be fine right Anduin? |
| 21:17.27 | chuckg | (in the toc) |
| 21:18.26 | AnduinLothar | maybe |
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| 21:19.33 | chuckg | Nope. |
| 21:21.29 | Thrae | Let me ask you this! Do you support our Alliance troops, or are you an Undead wearing human skin?! We all know the Orcs were most gracious that we liberated them from their Orc Warlords and gave education about how wonderful our Alliance is. Anyone who wants us to stop invading the Orc lands is obviously wants the Burning Legion or Scourge to win. |
| 21:21.52 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 21:23.08 | Cairenn | Esamynn: I *just* got logged in, finally, I'm about to put the stress thread up, don't fuss at me! |
| 21:23.17 | Cairenn | oh, and "hi, how are ya?" |
| 21:23.20 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 21:23.46 | JoshBorke | ~tryme |
| 21:23.47 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at Industrial and fires. Click. |
| 21:24.18 | End | ugh |
| 21:24.25 | End | none of my normal realms are up :( |
| 21:24.38 | End | however, for addon work, I generally only need a level 1 char anyways! |
| 21:24.54 | JoshBorke | bye all :-) |
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| 21:26.10 | Esamynn | no worries Cair, I haven't been paying any attention to patch day yet anyways ;) |
| 21:26.27 | Cairenn | yeah, but I just couldn't resist ;) |
| 21:26.28 | AnduinLothar | i was doing somehting.. |
| 21:27.05 | chuckg | Finishing mobileframe standalone? |
| 21:27.09 | chuckg | =D |
| 21:27.23 | AnduinLothar | nah, going alphabeticly.. was doign APB |
| 21:27.27 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 21:27.46 | MentalPower | chuckg: why doný you just hack the TOC and make it standalone yourself? |
| 21:27.55 | chuckg | Can't just do that. |
| 21:27.59 | chuckg | Unfortunately, I tried that. |
| 21:28.04 | Gryphen | just drop in addons\seahooks |
| 21:28.13 | chuckg | Tried. |
| 21:28.14 | MentalPower | then you didn't try hard enough |
| 21:28.21 | chuckg | It requires actual Sea. |
| 21:28.32 | AnduinLothar | i should test these standalone before i submit them eh.. |
| 21:28.42 | AnduinLothar | nah... |
| 21:29.12 | Esamynn | AnduinLothar: nah, testing them standalone would make too much sense...... |
| 21:29.40 | AnduinLothar | well if i only had to do 2 addons i may.. |
| 21:30.20 | AnduinLothar | but considering i have like a million addons to do and i've doen the conversion from dependant to standalone liek 50 million times i'm fairly confidant it'll work |
| 21:30.34 | AnduinLothar | but i'm prone to doing stupid things occationally |
| 21:31.37 | Thrae | We all do that, AnduinLothar. The people want quick updates, but quick updates could result in bad bugs being left in. |
| 21:31.44 | Shadowed | Cairenn: SSPVP should be working fine for 1.12 |
| 21:32.08 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=chatzill@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 21:32.29 | Guillotine | patch day |
| 21:32.38 | Shadowed | DUH DUH DUH DUUUUNNNNN |
| 21:32.42 | Esamynn | Jeez, it's like a party in here, 79 ppl |
| 21:32.53 | Guillotine | its suprisingly good in download speed and addon stability this time |
| 21:33.09 | Cairenn | Esamynn: thread is up |
| 21:33.27 | Guillotine | so anybody happen to know the names of the two new serverse made ysterday? mine is down :( |
| 21:33.38 | Esamynn | lol |
| 21:33.59 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?forumName=wow-general |
| 21:34.11 | AnduinLothar | ArcanePartyBars v4.0 out |
| 21:35.04 | Guillotine | interesting... forums.worldofwarcraft.com is working, but the root site isn't |
| 21:35.04 | Thrae | cladhaire: Does Clique have mana conservation? |
| 21:35.14 | cladhaire | no |
| 21:35.17 | cladhaire | and never will |
| 21:37.26 | AnduinLothar | mm Archaeologist next |
| 21:37.29 | Thrae | Hmmmm. |
| 21:38.01 | Guillotine | cladhaire: thank you. I hate mana conservation addons :/ I don't find them to work near as well as doing it manually |
| 21:38.28 | cladhaire | Thrae: Any particular reason for asking? |
| 21:38.38 | AnduinLothar | meh, Archaeologist has no real changes |
| 21:39.37 | Thrae | cladhaire: I wanted to get rid of AceHeal for Clique, but I still want mana conservation. I'll just pull the functions out of AceHeal if needed. |
| 21:40.17 | cladhaire | Thrae: *shrug* you can easily write them yourself in clique's editor |
| 21:42.12 | cladhaire | I hope my WatchDog users know how to read |
| 21:42.37 | Thrae | True...well, I'd rather write a good mana conservation addon that can take into account +healing and that can interact with Clique, because I can. For all the trouble of writing one for my own use, it seems I could go a little bit farther and make it useful for more people. |
| 21:43.03 | Thrae | Heh, it's SVN. Let them figure it out. |
| 21:46.21 | cladhaire | no, not that |
| 21:46.26 | cladhaire | the fact that i removed all click-casting form it |
| 21:46.28 | cladhaire | heh |
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| 21:49.20 | AnduinLothar | lol, i DID do something stupid and standalone didn't work |
| 21:49.25 | gutano | anyone have a recomendation for a blp viewer? I tried the BLP2 Viewer (which later I noticed posts about a trojan horse below... thanks curse).. but in spite of the ?trojan horse? it didn't work for me |
| 21:49.32 | AnduinLothar | i win |
| 21:51.37 | MentalPower | gutano: XnView works for most BLP's |
| 21:52.24 | gutano | MentalPower: thanks I'll give that a try |
| 21:52.48 | Cairenn | gutano: ... yet again, it didn't have a trojan, numerous people in channel have checked it |
| 21:53.19 | Cairenn | it may not have worked, but it didn't have a trojan - two seperate issues |
| 21:53.35 | gutano | Cairenn: good, I don't run virus scans because i'm a neat freak and I don't download too much unknown, and I re-install atleast every few months |
| 21:54.05 | AnduinLothar | lazy |
| 21:54.06 | Cairenn | not running a virus scan, however, is still silly |
| 21:54.40 | gutano | Cairenn: well... considering I use windows for warcraft... and somewhat recently warcraft modding... I'm not too concerned about it |
| 21:54.48 | Thrae | gutano: I suggest at least an online virus scan using housecall.trendmicro.com about once a month, better once every week or two weeks. |
| 21:55.08 | gutano | ie... that's all I use it for |
| 21:55.10 | Thrae | I mean, at least once a month. Come on. It takes like 30 minutes. |
| 21:55.24 | Cairenn | still |
| 21:55.48 | Thrae | More like 15 minutes if your HDD isn't that bgi. |
| 21:55.48 | gutano | ? warcraft start delivering viruses ? |
| 21:55.52 | Thrae | s/bgi/big/ |
| 21:56.03 | gutano | other than blp viewers =D |
| 21:56.31 | Cairenn | well, the idea that you can't get viruses on platforms other than windows is just plain silly too |
| 21:57.10 | AnduinLothar | <-- lazy |
| 21:57.12 | Cairenn | but hey, it's your machine |
| 21:57.14 | gutano | Cairenn: I'm not too worried about it, my tendencies are fairly safe (I do not rely on the OS for my security, but my habbits) |
| 21:57.30 | Cairenn | we're just making suggestions |
| 21:57.38 | gutano | last time I installed norton I had to re-install to get it off =/ so it caused more trouble than it saved |
| 21:57.44 | Thrae | A good habit is to do an online virus scan at least once a month. |
| 21:58.11 | Thrae | Even if you almost never use the computer, or "watch what you do". |
| 21:58.53 | Thrae | housecall.trendmicro.com is used by professionals (myself included) and even does a Spyware scan. |
| 21:58.55 | gutano | if I wanted a lecture I'd a asked yer mom =P |
| 21:59.09 | Cairenn | excuse me, no reason whatsoever to get rude |
| 21:59.44 | Thrae | I'm only thinking of your poor computer. To me, a computer is like a dog. I'm going to call the Society Against Cruelty To Computers ;) |
| 21:59.48 | gutano | wasn't talkin to you Cairenn... and I hope I didn't take that too far, heh |
| 22:00.25 | Thrae | Ever see "Reboot"? Think of those poor sprites! |
| 22:00.35 | Esamynn | Thrae: lol |
| 22:00.37 | gutano | scsi is stuck behind the firewall! |
| 22:00.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:00.47 | Kirkburn | (anyone who installs Norton deserves everything they get :) |
| 22:00.51 | Esamynn | rofl |
| 22:00.53 | Thrae | You're letting Megabyte run rampant! Bob is still at the Mainframe! |
| 22:01.12 | gutano | ram the gigabytes!! (not from reboot) |
| 22:01.21 | Esamynn | alphanumeric! |
| 22:03.07 | Esamynn | so what is the most recent word on maintenence? |
| 22:03.17 | Cairenn | some are up, others are down |
| 22:03.39 | Cairenn | and apparently login is borked |
| 22:03.49 | Cairenn | so, yeah, you know, snafu |
| 22:03.53 | AnduinLothar | zomg standalone AssistMe |
| 22:04.12 | Esamynn | I have a dream, that dream is a problem free patch day |
| 22:04.14 | AnduinLothar | hmmm last updated in february 2005... |
| 22:06.09 | Esamynn | wait a second, they aren't going to migrate posts from the old forums to the new.....sigh |
| 22:06.22 | Cairenn | they aren't? |
| 22:06.25 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.35 | AnduinLothar | new forums? |
| 22:06.35 | Esamynn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9565201 |
| 22:07.04 | Industrial | Is there an easiest fast and/or best way of knowing if a unit has certain buffs? |
| 22:07.32 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 22:07.44 | Legorol | Cairenn: they aren't, they've been asking people to archive their posts |
| 22:08.16 | Cairenn | well, luckily I've got the FAQs archived |
| 22:08.34 | Cairenn | plus being on the wiki |
| 22:08.41 | Cairenn | and on WoWI |
| 22:08.59 | zenzelezz | you mentioned Wiki before WoWI :-o |
| 22:09.04 | zenzelezz | I'm shocked, young lady |
| 22:09.28 | Cairenn | plus I've got most of the "upcoming" |
| 22:09.35 | Cairenn | and some of the "actual api" |
| 22:10.14 | Cairenn | those ones being on WoWI, easy enough to copy them back over, if appropriate |
| 22:12.24 | Cairenn | although that last line is somewhat worrisome |
| 22:13.01 | Cairenn | "we are going to start taking a more conservative approach to which threads we will allow to be stickied in the various forums." |
| 22:13.13 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Qzot (i=user@sandbox.xerox.com) |
| 22:13.40 | Qzot | Oh. My. Crowded today. |
| 22:13.46 | Cairenn | patch day |
| 22:13.54 | Qzot | Makes sense. |
| 22:13.56 | zenzelezz | well, considering the number of stickies on some forums, I'm not surprised |
| 22:14.17 | Cairenn | just so long as the FAQs remain stickied in the UI forum, I dun care :p |
| 22:14.20 | Qzot | Patch day makse sense. I don't follow 'stickies'. |
| 22:14.32 | Cairenn | conversation you missed beginning of |
| 22:14.36 | Qzot | Oh. |
| 22:14.42 | zenzelezz | just naughty stuff Q |
| 22:14.43 | Tem | dear Fileplanet, I love you |
| 22:14.55 | zenzelezz | oh god, Tem has gone mad |
| 22:15.03 | Tem | patch downloader running all day: 2% complete |
| 22:15.11 | Tem | patch dowloaded from fileplanet <1 minute |
| 22:15.27 | Qzot | You don't start you download *early* in the morning? |
| 22:15.32 | zenzelezz | time in queue on FilePlanet: 3 hours |
| 22:16.02 | Qzot | I theorize that not many WoW players are awake at 7am. :D |
| 22:16.08 | Tem | zenzelezz, that's what having a friend who has a FP account is for |
| 22:16.43 | zenzelezz | I imagine right now half my guild is busy shouting insults in guild chat at Blizzard because of the pre-maintenance backup lag |
| 22:16.47 | Tem | oh damn lol |
| 22:16.54 | Tem | my hdd is too full to complete the patch |
| 22:17.00 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 22:17.19 | zenzelezz | naughty movies? |
| 22:17.29 | Tem | wow movites |
| 22:17.37 | Tem | I couldn't play all weekend |
| 22:17.40 | zenzelezz | those are expendable |
| 22:17.40 | Legorol | wrong priorities, Tem |
| 22:17.46 | Legorol | wow movies > naughty movies |
| 22:17.51 | Qzot | Battlegroup 5, Tem? |
| 22:18.00 | zenzelezz | naughty wow movies! |
| 22:18.00 | Tem | Qzot, not sure |
| 22:18.11 | Tem | so I downloaded all the wow mage pvp movies I could ge my hands on |
| 22:18.14 | Legorol | ~porn |
| 22:18.15 | purl | Porn remains one of the largest problems with Open Source Software. Often causing development delays, flooded links and, in extreme cases, disabling programmers ability to type. |
| 22:18.17 | Legorol | hmm |
| 22:18.19 | Qzot | Was your server listed on the Breaking News page? If so, BG5. |
| 22:18.32 | Legorol | isn't that the command for the link to the WoW Pron video? |
| 22:18.59 | Cairenn | ~forporn |
| 22:19.03 | Legorol | ah that's the one |
| 22:19.07 | Cairenn | ~for porn |
| 22:19.08 | purl | http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi |
| 22:19.15 | Tem | oh lol I still have the 3.5 gig video of us killing skeram |
| 22:19.17 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.37 | zenzelezz | I hope that's uncompressed, or you guys took a while |
| 22:19.42 | Tem | uncompressed |
| 22:20.06 | Tem | Qzot, I wanna say I'm in BG7 |
| 22:20.12 | Tem | Qzot, I'll check now if I can |
| 22:20.42 | zenzelezz | bit annoyed that our MT captured our first Anub'Rekhan kill... all you see for most of the movie is him, the boss and occasionally the hunter giving him speed aura |
| 22:21.05 | Tem | heh |
| 22:21.41 | Tem | I got all excited about it, but sadly my computer just can't handle a raid and fraps at the same time |
| 22:22.15 | zenzelezz | I was quite surprised to hear he was capturing while tanking o_O But it worked, so who cares =) |
| 22:22.45 | Tem | anyone have a link to the Battlegroup list? |
| 22:22.46 | gutano | hrrrmmm... I've looked twice, and I can't find a set of class icons in the Blizzard Interface Art.... am I missing it? or is this somewhere else? |
| 22:22.57 | Tem | wow.com is (unsurprizingly) real slow |
| 22:23.10 | Cairenn | gutano: snag 'em from my site |
| 22:23.11 | Tem | gutano, look in the glues |
| 22:23.33 | Cairenn | or that |
| 22:23.33 | Tem | the extracter may not extract that |
| 22:23.36 | gutano | Tem: ahhh, a subdir, thanks =D |
| 22:23.44 | Tem | but that's what WinMPQ is for |
| 22:23.59 | Cairenn | the extractor gets them |
| 22:25.42 | MentalPower | gutano: Blizzard Interface Art\Glues\CharacterCreate\UI-CharacterCreate-Classes.blp |
| 22:26.08 | gutano | MentalPower: yeah Tem pointed them out, thanks though =D |
| 22:26.09 | Legorol | guys, any feedback on how cross-realm BG is working out in US? |
| 22:26.20 | cladhaire | seems to be going well on the servers that are up |
| 22:26.24 | gutano | hrrrm... it's been up for.... 20 mins ? |
| 22:26.24 | cladhaire | the BG i PVP on is still down |
| 22:26.32 | cladhaire | 94 WSG in BG3 |
| 22:26.40 | Tem | cladhaire, that's hot |
| 22:26.50 | cladhaire | i bet BG10 is doing well too |
| 22:26.54 | cladhaire | or whatever my other one is. |
| 22:27.14 | gutano | lowbies rejoice!! you may get to play BG's before 51/60 |
| 22:27.16 | cladhaire | going to IF to queue |
| 22:27.22 | Tem | why does it take wow so damn long to load? |
| 22:27.29 | zenzelezz | dull patch |
| 22:27.33 | Tem | heh |
| 22:28.01 | zenzelezz | hrm, who stole the "sheet" from my sentence |
| 22:28.32 | Tem | why is my server still down? |
| 22:28.42 | Guillotine | mine too :( |
| 22:28.46 | Tem | I have like an hour to play before I have to go back for mor rehearsals :( |
| 22:28.47 | Guillotine | but they jsut started a restart of all serverse |
| 22:28.50 | Kirov | mine three |
| 22:29.01 | Tem | I wanted to get a taste of cross-realm |
| 22:29.02 | Guillotine | so I would guess all servers will be up in several minutes |
| 22:29.17 | Guillotine | nobody on draka :( |
| 22:29.25 | Tem | draka is up though |
| 22:29.33 | Tem | it actually assigned me to it when I tried to log in |
| 22:29.58 | Guillotine | me as well |
| 22:31.21 | Legorol | cladhaire: is that 94 WSG over all levels, or just for 60s? |
| 22:31.26 | cladhaire | 60 |
| 22:31.27 | Legorol | either way it's impressive.. |
| 22:31.28 | cladhaire | 112 now. |
| 22:31.30 | Legorol | whoah |
| 22:31.35 | Legorol | i guess everyone's trying it :) |
| 22:31.37 | zenzelezz | will be fun to see if the EU servers are back and running smoothly when I wake up tomorrow |
| 22:32.01 | Legorol | zenzelezz: looooooong maintenance |
| 22:32.05 | Legorol | doesn't finish till 16pm |
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| 22:32.24 | Qzot | Hmm. I'm just catching up. |
| 22:32.28 | zenzelezz | we'll see |
| 22:32.34 | Qzot | What seem to have been the rough spots today? |
| 22:32.38 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.50 | Guillotine | whoops. sry >< |
| 22:33.02 | zenzelezz | lowercast R in Bloodrage |
| 22:33.03 | Guillotine | but ya, that will let you charge in combat if you spam it o.0 |
| 22:33.06 | zenzelezz | *lowercase |
| 22:33.13 | Guillotine | not on the texture |
| 22:33.19 | zenzelezz | on ability though |
| 22:33.28 | Guillotine | whoops. you're right |
| 22:33.38 | Guillotine | though I don't think CastSpellByName is case sensitive. is it? |
| 22:33.49 | zenzelezz | hopefully not |
| 22:34.09 | Qzot | I don't think you need to 'local' i, if it's in a for loop, do you? |
| 22:34.38 | Corrodias | Tem: what you said about the blizzard downloader is so completely true |
| 22:34.58 | Corrodias | and -holy balls-, 808 seeds and 1100 peers on the patch torrent |
| 22:35.19 | Guillotine | qzot: not my code ;) |
| 22:35.24 | zenzelezz | Guillotine: another thing, are you sure that would work? Charge requires you to be out-of-combat, but Bloodrage puts you into combat |
| 22:35.36 | Guillotine | and it takes you out of combat if you cancel the buff prematurely |
| 22:35.38 | Guillotine | thats the bug |
| 22:35.40 | Qzot | But you've taken responsibility for it by pasting it here. :D |
| 22:35.42 | Guillotine | it shouldn't take you out of combat |
| 22:35.54 | Guillotine | Qzot: I'm just saying it works, not that its the most efficient |
| 22:35.58 | zenzelezz | but you cast Charge before you cancel the buff |
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| 22:36.27 | Guillotine | don't ask me. I just found it on the bug forums :P |
| 22:36.48 | zenzelezz | guess I'm mistaken then |
| 22:36.59 | cladhaire | anyone here a rogue? |
| 22:37.06 | Guillotine | I have a 39 rogue... |
| 22:37.15 | cladhaire | i'm looking at 18/28/5.. any thoughts? |
| 22:38.44 | Corrodias | go 0/0/51 |
| 22:38.50 | cladhaire | aaah shit. |
| 22:38.53 | cladhaire | i just spec 5/5 dodge |
| 22:38.57 | Corrodias | i know nothing about rogues, but that sounds cool. |
| 22:38.57 | Kirov | Anyone know if beladona is going to release an updated damage meters? |
| 22:39.24 | Tain | Gonna be going 15/31/5 myslef |
| 22:39.31 | Corrodias | Kirov: just to use the new sendaddonmessage, or does it actually not work? |
| 22:39.37 | Tain | What's the extra 3 in Assassination? |
| 22:39.51 | Tain | Ruthlessness? |
| 22:40.20 | cladhaire | aye |
| 22:40.30 | Tain | I really do like Ruthlessness. |
| 22:40.36 | cladhaire | yep =) |
| 22:40.41 | Tain | But I struggle too much with losing Combat |
| 22:40.47 | cladhaire | what do you lose |
| 22:40.48 | cladhaire | ? |
| 22:41.09 | Tain | I don't know! I don't have it in front of me. hha |
| 22:41.11 | Corrodias | Kirov? |
| 22:41.14 | cladhaire | wowhead it. |
| 22:41.16 | Tain | Do you have a build to link? |
| 22:41.30 | cladhaire | whats better for a combat dagger rogue |
| 22:41.34 | cladhaire | the 2 in imp SS |
| 22:41.37 | cladhaire | or putting those in ip S&D |
| 22:41.39 | cladhaire | for raids |
| 22:41.40 | Cide | good night |
| 22:41.52 | Cide | going to bed - hopefully I'm not waking up to 1500 bugs! |
| 22:41.53 | Kirkburn | G'night Cide |
| 22:42.03 | Kirkburn | heh, here's hoping |
| 22:42.04 | Corrodias | 'ni |
| 22:42.05 | Kirov | corrodias - it works for me fine, even with out the update afaik |
| 22:42.07 | Kirov | night Cide |
| 22:42.08 | Tain | I wasn't always but I am a believer in imp SnD now. |
| 22:42.09 | cladhaire | Tain: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jhezoxZGfV00Ez0bZV |
| 22:42.35 | Tain | Especially as a dagger rogue where you're relying on a slower CP buildup with Backstabs than Sinister Strikes |
| 22:42.37 | Kirov | Corrodias - I just don't want to add another mod to have to update constantly. |
| 22:42.52 | Kirov | Corrodias - I'm moving this week, so I don't have time to fix anything if it breaks. |
| 22:42.56 | AnduinLothar | night cide |
| 22:43.06 | Corrodias | ah |
| 22:43.11 | Tain | If you're going dagger i wouldn't get Imp Evis |
| 22:43.13 | Kirkburn | Cripes updating a simple thing takes a while :O |
| 22:43.40 | Tain | SnD as a finisher will do more damage on any extended fight than Evis |
| 22:43.48 | Kirkburn | I'm still doing stuff for the next ClearFont release :/ |
| 22:44.02 | chuckg | Have a new font? |
| 22:44.13 | cladhaire | Tain: But i used evisc when i get ahead on CP |
| 22:44.16 | cladhaire | i dont use it instaed of S&D |
| 22:44.25 | AnduinLothar | come on kirk, i've already updated all of Cosmos and posted 5 or 6 updated on curse and wowi, what's taking you so long ;) |
| 22:44.27 | cladhaire | lemme look tho |
| 22:44.41 | Tain | Right, but since you're not using evis as a primary you don't gain as much advantage to having talent points int |
| 22:44.51 | AnduinLothar | you probably slept last night, didn't you.. |
| 22:44.51 | Tain | I'd put points in Murder instead |
| 22:44.59 | cladhaire | MURDER? |
| 22:45.05 | cladhaire | +2% damage? |
| 22:45.13 | cladhaire | worthless imo |
| 22:45.19 | Tain | 2% damage adds up more overtime with SnD |
| 22:45.25 | cladhaire | bah |
| 22:45.48 | Tain | But it's not a big deal to have Murder at all. |
| 22:45.54 | cladhaire | well i only have one point to lose |
| 22:46.08 | cladhaire | so you're syaing this? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0esoxZGfV00Ez0bZV |
| 22:46.59 | Tem | ding 2 |
| 22:47.02 | cladhaire | i wouldn't even bother with blade flurry if i didn't need it for weapon exp |
| 22:47.04 | cladhaire | Tem: grats! zomg |
| 22:47.30 | Tain | You know I scrapped blade flurry for the last month and I miss it. |
| 22:47.35 | Tain | I'm picking it back up. |
| 22:47.42 | cladhaire | well wep exp is worth it. |
| 22:48.03 | Tain | I didn't think it was going to be great for raids, and it's not *great* but there's definitely times I miss it. |
| 22:48.12 | cladhaire | want to see what i really spec'd? |
| 22:49.42 | Tain | Sure! |
| 22:49.54 | AnduinLothar | MobileFrames v3.4: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-408-1-mobile-frames.html |
| 22:50.29 | kergoth | someone mind exporting the wow uninstall crap from the registry for me? the patcher is freaking out at the end due to it not being there |
| 22:50.34 | Tain | I actually changed what I was thinking about about 10 times today alone. I'm thinking of this now. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=n0ecoLZMeV00yz0fZV |
| 22:52.24 | Tain | Then again why am I taking Aggression there. Ug. |
| 22:53.21 | Tain | Sorry kergoth I don't have the registry entries for it, I copied my install files over from another system. No actual install process. |
| 22:53.55 | kergoth | thats what i did. did you patch successfully? :\ |
| 22:54.06 | Tain | yeah I had no problem |
| 22:54.10 | kergoth | weird |
| 22:54.44 | kergoth | err, i lost my bookmarks when i built the new box and reloaded the os.. now i dont know what the rogue build was that i'd decided on |
| 22:54.56 | kergoth | i know, i'll check irc logs, i know i pasted it at some point |
| 22:54.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:55.53 | Kirkburn | AnduinLothar, you're just too much of a man for me to rival :P |
| 22:56.51 | kergoth | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jhecoxkhZMZxre00hRo , thats the one i was thinking about |
| 22:57.53 | Tain | Definitely PVP huh :) |
| 22:59.42 | Iriel | I also have a (twice) copied WoW install |
| 23:00.00 | Iriel | no problems here either (running the launcher out of the wow installer directory) |
| 23:00.32 | Kaso | If you mail an amount of gold and silver and copper, on the pop-up warning it doesnt list the copper. |
| 23:01.04 | kergoth | Registry error loading key 'World of Warcraft\UninstallPath' |
| 23:01.06 | kergoth | File not Found |
| 23:01.11 | kergoth | NOTE: No Uninstall Data |
| 23:01.14 | kergoth | Result: patch Failed |
| 23:01.16 | kergoth | :'( |
| 23:01.26 | Thrae | Poor Linux user. |
| 23:01.27 | Kaso | not right now |
| 23:02.46 | Cairenn | uhn, 'World of Warcraft\UninstallPath' ? |
| 23:03.01 | kergoth | yes. |
| 23:03.02 | Cairenn | *sees no such critter in her folder* |
| 23:03.03 | kergoth | registry path |
| 23:03.06 | kergoth | not filesystem path |
| 23:03.31 | Thrae | kergoth uses Linux. |
| 23:03.47 | Cairenn | yar, I know |
| 23:05.58 | Thrae | kergoth: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\World of Warcraft\UninstallPath <-- if you can use Wine to trick the patcher to believe this registry key exists |
| 23:06.23 | Thrae | I bet Wine has some psuedo-registry you can use. The key was just never added for some reason. |
| 23:06.29 | Tain | That key doesn't existon my system and it works fine. |
| 23:06.42 | Tain | Of course it's Windows. |
| 23:07.06 | Thrae | Tain: Are you looking in USERS or MACHINE? |
| 23:07.12 | Tain | Machine |
| 23:07.16 | Thrae | It doesn't exist in USERS, it does exist in MACHINE. |
| 23:07.23 | Thrae | Hmmm, it exists on mine... |
| 23:07.56 | Thrae | kergoth: Anyway, mine is set to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Blizzard Entertainment\World of Warcraft\Uninstall.exe |
| 23:08.02 | Tain | Nope! I only have InstallPath |
| 23:08.14 | Thrae | Tain: Weird. |
| 23:08.17 | Cairenn | same for me |
| 23:08.24 | Cairenn | (same as Thrae's) |
| 23:08.25 | cladhaire | hrm, they might have disabled Xserver BG's on this battlegroup |
| 23:08.25 | cladhaire | heh |
| 23:08.26 | kergoth | Thrae: thanks, i'll try setting that |
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| 23:15.55 | cladhaire | 40 AB up |
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| 23:19.13 | Esamynn | what sort of queue times are you getting cladhaire, and which faction are you? |
| 23:20.01 | cladhaire | i'm horde |
| 23:20.04 | cladhaire | less than a minute |
| 23:20.11 | cladhaire | haven't tested the server i'm transferring to tho |
| 23:20.43 | Tain | Where are you transferring to? |
| 23:28.34 | cladhaire | Stormrage |
| 23:28.35 | cladhaire | hee |
| 23:31.55 | AnduinLothar | lol i crashed my server again |
| 23:32.01 | AnduinLothar | diff server too |
| 23:32.04 | AnduinLothar | this time on my main |
| 23:32.47 | AnduinLothar | "You are now elegable to enter Warsong Gultch 56." |
| 23:33.31 | Iriel | Hm, anyone else notice a change to the return values of UnitAttackBothHands and UnitDefense ? |
| 23:34.10 | AnduinLothar | EasyRaid borked in bg's |
| 23:34.21 | Iriel | specifically it's returning 0 for all NPC's and as far as I can tell, did not used to |
| 23:35.40 | AnduinLothar | they finaly fixed UnitDefense? |
| 23:36.10 | Iriel | I'm not sure if it's "fixed' per se, what was broken ? |
| 23:36.24 | Warla | OMG |
| 23:36.26 | Warla | <3 patch |
| 23:36.29 | Warla | 1214 mana for 849 hp LIFE TAP |
| 23:36.40 | Warla | <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 |
| 23:36.47 | Kaso | didnt it allow you to get levels of masked npcs |
| 23:37.02 | Iriel | Ahhh.. that would explain some things. |
| 23:37.10 | Iriel | i.e. why it's returning 0 for NPC's now |
| 23:40.23 | Iriel | The vertical sync checkbox appears to be backwards too |
| 23:40.32 | Iriel | though I'm not sure that's new in 1.12 |
| 23:40.45 | Kirkburn | How can a checkbox be backwards? |
| 23:40.56 | Kirkburn | The tick is backwards? :) |
| 23:41.17 | Kirkburn | Or on=ff and off=on? |
| 23:41.19 | Iriel | When unchecked, vsync is enabled |
| 23:41.22 | Iriel | and checked, it's disabled |
| 23:41.26 | Kirkburn | oops |
| 23:41.46 | Iriel | Could be a strange SLI thing though, who knows |
| 23:42.01 | Iriel | if I face the floor I get 64 FPS with it checked, 60 FPS with it unchecked |
| 23:42.10 | Kirkburn | The bug report forum stickies have been updated for 1.12: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?ForumName=wow-bugs |
| 23:44.24 | Iriel | Wow, they broke rather more than I would have anticipated |
| 23:46.01 | chuckg | Ther esomething going on w/ time formatting? |
| 23:46.09 | chuckg | Fubar performance and my buffs all have %d. |
| 23:49.39 | Corrodias | chuckg: lol, that's gotta be fun |
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| 23:50.04 | chuckg | It's interesting the number of things that do change and the number of things that are documented. |
| 23:50.07 | chuckg | There's quite a divergence. |
| 23:50.50 | AnduinLothar | server crashed again |
| 23:51.57 | Corrodias | time to see if my addons work |
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