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| 00:09.48 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is "... Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror. Thus you would not have been informed." | Paste Code: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | 1.12 next week, or so a certain someone swears |
| 00:22.37 | Warla | cladhaire |
| 00:22.40 | Warla | HAVE A SEC? :-) |
| 00:22.45 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 00:22.45 | cladhaire | whats up |
| 00:22.56 | Warla | http://wowi.pastey.net/315-263w |
| 00:23.09 | Warla | i'd like to know how i access the strings from the lua file |
| 00:23.19 | Warla | i think the naming of the items i made is really messed up ^^ |
| 00:23.25 | cladhaire | getglobal("NameofString") |
| 00:23.27 | Warla | have me a tip how to name em properly? |
| 00:24.14 | cladhaire | gimme a sec |
| 00:24.30 | Warla | so name="$line1" i call getglobal("line1") ? |
| 00:24.38 | Warla | and it returns the string var |
| 00:24.52 | cladhaire | you want $parent1 |
| 00:24.55 | cladhaire | or something like that |
| 00:25.00 | cladhaire | $parent has the FULL name of the parent |
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| 00:25.12 | cladhaire | ~devtools |
| 00:25.13 | purl | devtools is probably Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 |
| 00:25.20 | cladhaire | then you can download devtools, and do /dtframestack |
| 00:25.22 | cladhaire | and mouseover them |
| 00:25.24 | cladhaire | that'll tell you their name |
| 00:26.10 | Warla | k i'll try that |
| 00:26.18 | cladhaire | but the best way to logically name things |
| 00:26.21 | cladhaire | is $parentWhatItDoes |
| 00:26.26 | cladhaire | or $parentWhatItIs |
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| 00:53.53 | cladhaire | i... am ... so bored. |
| 00:54.07 | AnduinLothar | :) you know what I have to say to that |
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| 00:56.47 | Tem | lol |
| 00:56.49 | Tem | I crash wow |
| 00:57.14 | Tem | wow doesn't like sliders with no thumb texture |
| 00:58.03 | MentalPower | yet again you mean |
| 01:00.09 | Tem | heh |
| 01:02.48 | cladhaire | haha |
| 01:02.58 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: No, what do you have to say to that? |
| 01:03.28 | cladhaire | cause i'm really bored :P |
| 01:04.19 | AnduinLothar | I always have things that need doing |
| 01:05.00 | cladhaire | if i felt like coding, i'd be coding =) |
| 01:05.04 | cladhaire | i have plenty to do on my own :P |
| 01:05.13 | cladhaire | the core for CTAceMos needs work =( |
| 01:07.55 | MentalPower | CT & Ace on the same name ZOMG! |
| 01:08.04 | cladhaire | but i think i'm gonna code in a bit |
| 01:08.08 | cladhaire | MentalPower: That's so .. like one week ago |
| 01:08.27 | MentalPower | I was having internet connection issues a week ago |
| 01:08.35 | MentalPower | can you give me the skinny? |
| 01:09.31 | cladhaire | CTMod, Cosmos and Ace are working together on a single set of powerful libraries. |
| 01:09.43 | cladhaire | We figured the cooperation could only benefit the community |
| 01:10.11 | AnduinLothar | if it doesn't kill it first |
| 01:10.30 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:10.34 | AnduinLothar | reading some of the ace logs im sure they'd lynch me if i tried to change something |
| 01:11.00 | MentalPower | wow, I salute you all in at least attempting such an endeavour |
| 01:11.03 | cladhaire | hrm.. what time zome is purl on? |
| 01:11.15 | cladhaire | ~time |
| 01:11.17 | purl | 2006.08.19 1:11:17 GMT |
| 01:11.17 | AnduinLothar | was more of a joke |
| 01:11.29 | cladhaire | Hrm.. purl should have zipped the last set of logs already.. hrm |
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| 01:21.30 | AnduinLothar | what's an easy way to read a text file in bash line by line? |
| 01:22.01 | cladhaire | like one line by line? |
| 01:22.25 | AnduinLothar | yeah |
| 01:22.51 | cladhaire | nothing off the top of my head with the shell |
| 01:22.55 | cladhaire | other than less and more |
| 01:22.58 | cladhaire | and using enter not space to page |
| 01:23.23 | kergoth | AnduinLothar: what do you mean by 'read' in this context? |
| 01:23.27 | kergoth | and what do the lines consist of? |
| 01:24.02 | AnduinLothar | i want to do a gfind basicly on a series of lines |
| 01:24.04 | AnduinLothar | one by one |
| 01:24.20 | cladhaire | do it with cmdline lua =) |
| 01:24.23 | cladhaire | if that's what you want to do :P |
| 01:24.31 | kergoth | if the line is word seperated, its easily done in pure shell |
| 01:24.46 | AnduinLothar | word seperated? |
| 01:24.47 | kergoth | while read a b c d e; do echo $a $b $c $d $e; done < filename |
| 01:24.54 | kergoth | whitespace seperated, that is |
| 01:25.02 | kergoth | reads words into the vars a, b, c, d, and e in that example |
| 01:25.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:25.35 | cladhaire | yay for learning =) |
| 01:26.22 | AnduinLothar | mmm, doesn't that work for any whitespace? and how do i stop at |n and resume? |
| 01:27.36 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:29.10 | kergoth | AnduinLothar: |
| 01:29.15 | kergoth | read takes a single line and breaks it up on whitespace |
| 01:29.29 | kergoth | that while loop keeps running it, feeding it stdin, which due to that < is the contents of the file |
| 01:29.44 | kergoth | that example i pasted reads filename line by line, parsing each line into a,b,c,d, and e on each pass |
| 01:30.01 | kergoth | the loop will continue until read returns failure, which wont occur until it sees EOF |
| 01:36.04 | AnduinLothar | kthx |
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| 01:44.21 | Tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=433967&p=1&tmp=1#post433967 |
| 01:59.38 | JoshBorke | btw, hi :) |
| 02:02.51 | Industrial | Question: Why do chatframes not move when changing screen resolution? (other things too) |
| 02:02.56 | Industrial | its highly anoying |
| 02:03.17 | Industrial | and the reason why I never leave full screen mode |
| 02:12.30 | AnduinLothar | kergoth> is there a way to have the last variable include the rest of the line? |
| 02:12.55 | kergoth | hmmmm i'm not sure offhand, see the commands section of 'man bash' |
| 02:12.57 | kergoth | read is a builtin |
| 02:19.52 | AnduinLothar | is there a better way to scroll in man? |
| 02:21.58 | AnduinLothar | ive been scrolling for liek 5min |
| 02:22.59 | AnduinLothar | yay http://gentoo-wiki.com/MAN_bash |
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| 02:36.06 | AnduinLothar | ok, and how do i do strsub in bash? |
| 02:36.19 | JoshBorke | str sub? |
| 02:36.22 | JoshBorke | i pipe into sed |
| 02:36.24 | Silv | use sed? |
| 02:36.37 | JoshBorke | echo blah | sed s/la/hehe/ |
| 02:36.40 | JoshBorke | or something like that |
| 02:37.03 | JoshBorke | and why is anduin in linux? |
| 02:37.19 | AnduinLothar | mmm can you give me an exaple that would get the first character? |
| 02:37.39 | JoshBorke | um |
| 02:37.58 | JoshBorke | echo blah | sed s/^\(.\).*/\1/ |
| 02:37.59 | JoshBorke | should |
| 02:38.03 | AnduinLothar | :) thx |
| 02:38.56 | AnduinLothar | the 1 is just so it only happens once, right? |
| 02:39.19 | JoshBorke | no, it's a back-reference to the captured . |
| 02:39.20 | AnduinLothar | that's more like a stsub, but it'll work |
| 02:39.25 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 02:39.32 | AnduinLothar | strsub* |
| 02:39.49 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 02:39.57 | AnduinLothar | <-- noob shell scripter |
| 02:40.08 | JoshBorke | you might want to consider programming in perl |
| 02:40.23 | AnduinLothar | i could easily code it in python, but i wanted to learn something |
| 02:40.40 | JoshBorke | bash isn't really good for string operations |
| 02:41.13 | AnduinLothar | yeah, well i'm reading in a file and i want to ignore lines that start with # |
| 02:41.21 | JoshBorke | ah |
| 02:41.34 | AnduinLothar | not super complicated |
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| 03:01.37 | Corrodias | i bought a new knife, today |
| 03:02.08 | Corrodias | it's a beautiful little thing (watch pocket size), Kershaw brand, $35 |
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| 03:19.13 | Kirov | Anyone figured out a way to keep really long edit boxes from clipping the text off? |
| 03:19.24 | AnduinLothar | nope |
| 03:19.40 | AnduinLothar | if i could i'd publish ChatEdit |
| 03:23.24 | JoshBorke | *yawn* |
| 03:23.33 | JoshBorke | 1.12 this week we think? |
| 03:24.00 | AnduinLothar | one would hope |
| 03:24.02 | JoshBorke | or so a little birdie swears while being choked? |
| 03:24.21 | AnduinLothar | never know |
| 03:24.53 | AnduinLothar | SVN Question: You can use "svn log path1 path2" to merge two logs and you can use "-r #:#" to get a revision bounded log. Can you merge the logs of multiple paths each with their own revision bounding? |
| 03:30.07 | JoshBorke | anyone know anything about wristguards of castigation? |
| 03:30.29 | AnduinLothar | only that the pally on test server has them |
| 03:30.36 | AnduinLothar | and they're hawt |
| 03:31.00 | AnduinLothar | i knwo there's a weapon from naxx called castigator |
| 03:31.19 | kergoth | AnduinLothar: yes, you can use svn log http://foo/bar@1234 |
| 03:31.25 | kergoth | to set the top bound revision for that path |
| 03:31.31 | kergoth | that syntax is valid for most commands afaik |
| 03:31.46 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: yea, they are WAY hawt |
| 03:31.47 | JoshBorke | i want them |
| 03:31.48 | AnduinLothar | can you set top and bottom bounds that way? |
| 03:32.30 | Corrodias | damn, maraudon sounds complex |
| 03:32.34 | AnduinLothar | like "svn log path1@1000:900 path2@900:800" |
| 03:32.37 | JoshBorke | Corrodias: it's not too bad |
| 03:32.57 | Corrodias | it's got to be bad when you have no experience with it |
| 03:32.57 | kergoth | AnduinLothar: i dont think so, i tried that a few minutes ago, looks like you cant set the bottom bound with that syntax |
| 03:32.59 | JoshBorke | Corrodias: it's just seperated into 3 instances |
| 03:33.05 | kergoth | unless i'm missing something |
| 03:33.07 | kergoth | maybe check the svn book |
| 03:33.17 | AnduinLothar | the svn book is so unhelpful |
| 03:33.37 | kergoth | i've not had trouble finding information. its reference on svn properties is excellent in my opinion |
| 03:33.40 | AnduinLothar | if you use -r do they all abide by the lower bound? |
| 03:34.33 | AnduinLothar | so like "svn log -r curr:curr-100 path1@curr-10 path2@curr-20" |
| 03:34.37 | kergoth | not sure, i dont use log much, other than quick obvious stuff. if i'm generating a changelog, i usually use a seperate python script that someone wrote for it |
| 03:35.08 | AnduinLothar | python script from where? |
| 03:35.24 | kergoth | its the one most projects use, let me see if i can figure out where i put it |
| 03:36.09 | JoshBorke | Corrodias: they all connect to each other. but there are 2 entrances really |
| 03:36.15 | JoshBorke | *cry* i want Legplates of Blazing Light |
| 03:36.45 | JoshBorke | my guild just took down skeram for the first time |
| 03:36.54 | AnduinLothar | i'd suffice with beating nef and finally getting to aq40 for the time being |
| 03:37.08 | JoshBorke | 2 guild first in 1 week |
| 03:37.21 | JoshBorke | nef down and skeram down |
| 03:37.35 | JoshBorke | you can do skeram if your guild can coordinate |
| 03:38.06 | JoshBorke | wow, redemption set comes with a lot of +spell crit |
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| 03:38.22 | AnduinLothar | close your mouth, you're drooling |
| 03:38.42 | JoshBorke | lol, i won't lie, i am |
| 03:38.57 | JoshBorke | now that we're up to the escond boss in AQ'40 i have to re- |
| 03:39.02 | JoshBorke | re-evaluate my gear |
| 03:43.57 | snurre | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJeHfvQD8D8 o.O |
| 03:45.55 | JoshBorke | zomg, my ears |
| 03:48.37 | gnorlish | josh the next bosses in aq40 are going to be a guild wakeup call |
| 03:49.28 | Kirov | Yeah, you guys are going to be like, "wow, aq40 is really easy, we'll have c'thun down tonight!" |
| 03:49.43 | JoshBorke | naw |
| 03:50.10 | JoshBorke | we know we won't get that far :-P |
| 03:53.32 | JoshBorke | these vekniss guardians are AWESOME! |
| 03:53.58 | Kirov | lol |
| 03:54.53 | Warla | my guild still plays wipe at 2% huhu :-( |
| 03:55.55 | JoshBorke | it's like the garr adds! only way better! |
| 03:58.24 | snurre | huhu is a guild and twins are both guild killers, like vael |
| 03:58.29 | snurre | err |
| 03:58.30 | snurre | meh |
| 03:58.31 | snurre | no sleep |
| 03:58.35 | snurre | you get what i meant |
| 03:58.36 | snurre | anyway |
| 03:58.46 | snurre | that sleep thingy needs remedy, so gnite |
| 03:58.54 | Industrial | nn |
| 03:59.06 | gnorlish | my guild is working on huhu atm, server has made things difficult the past few months |
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| 03:59.33 | Tain | huhu is a straight up Nature Resist gear check. |
| 03:59.49 | gnorlish | for us it's an iq check |
| 04:00.12 | gnorlish | we have priests PoHing and missing 1/2 of their sponges |
| 04:00.14 | MentalPower|ZZzz | gnight folks |
| 04:00.18 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 04:00.25 | JoshBorke | hrm |
| 04:00.29 | gnorlish | it's been said before, but man if i could just clone 40 of me |
| 04:00.29 | JoshBorke | we have uh, 9 priests? |
| 04:00.32 | gnorlish | things would be easier |
| 04:00.46 | JoshBorke | think that'll help with sartura? |
| 04:01.02 | Tain | I have thought that as well gnorlish, but then I realized there'd just be 39 other instances of me arguing with myself. |
| 04:01.08 | gnorlish | make sure your healers have an aggro monitor |
| 04:01.14 | gnorlish | so the priests can fade when it DINGS |
| 04:01.20 | Warla | yea the constant lags are awful for progression |
| 04:01.27 | gnorlish | well tain, i'm one of the people who is super excited for 25 man raids |
| 04:01.39 | gnorlish | because it means i can cut the dross |
| 04:01.49 | Tain | Me too, most of my guild sees it as a bad thing. |
| 04:01.52 | Tain | I think it's great. |
| 04:02.28 | gnorlish | i'm one of the 2 raid/ guild leaders, we have maaaaaybe 30 competent members |
| 04:02.36 | gnorlish | it's going to be amazing |
| 04:04.04 | Warla | everyone loves the 25 instances |
| 04:04.06 | Warla | 40 suxx |
| 04:04.16 | gnorlish | it sucks having to be constantly recruiting priests and druids just to get raids going even though we know they're douchebags |
| 04:05.46 | AnduinLothar | kergoth> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.ref.svn.c.log.html doesn't show the @ syntax |
| 04:06.07 | kergoth | AnduinLothar: i think its generic svn url syntax, not specific to any one command |
| 04:06.13 | kergoth | so may be in a different part of the docs |
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| 04:06.35 | Warla | heh ya |
| 04:06.39 | AnduinLothar | well i end up with "svn: File not found: revision 3921, path 'trunk/Interface@3921'" |
| 04:07.10 | AnduinLothar | svn log -r 3921:3911 URL trunk/Interface@3921 |
| 04:07.43 | AnduinLothar | obviously that's redundant since 3921 is the top end, but it should still allow the syntax no? |
| 04:08.03 | AnduinLothar | or is it jsut that it doesn't like it with the URL [PATH ...] syntax |
| 04:09.04 | Tain | Awesome interview with Samuel L. "The Fucking Man" Jackson about the movie. http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1228538_1_0_,00.html |
| 04:09.14 | kergoth | i didnt try seperating url from path, i just gave it the whole thing, and it seemed to work, but then, i didnt try using -r with it all that much, not sure iof the implications |
| 04:11.32 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: does ConSisTent auto color things too? ^_^ |
| 04:11.52 | AnduinLothar | ConsisTint doesn't, no |
| 04:12.15 | AnduinLothar | why would I presume to guess what colors people want for their channels |
| 04:12.40 | JoshBorke | cause i don't remember setting colors :-X |
| 04:12.40 | AnduinLothar | it uses whatever it say last |
| 04:12.43 | AnduinLothar | saw* |
| 04:13.19 | Tain | It should auto-color. And change randomly. |
| 04:13.21 | Kirov | Anyone know of any mods that watch for other players to be stunned or feared? |
| 04:13.27 | Tain | And add <blink> liberally. |
| 04:13.47 | Tain | Wonder if you can get chat channels to use marquee |
| 04:13.59 | AnduinLothar | anything you want tain |
| 04:14.05 | AnduinLothar | if you spend enough time haxing it |
| 04:14.57 | Tain | haha what a tease: http://www.whoresofwarcraft.com/ |
| 04:15.43 | Tain | Shit why didn't I think of that, a WoW (or generic fantasy strongly hinting at WoW) porn site would make millions. |
| 04:16.23 | AnduinLothar | moichendizing |
| 04:16.38 | Tain | Cairenn, want to help host it? ;) |
| 04:16.40 | JoshBorke | wow |
| 04:16.42 | JoshBorke | we got PWNED |
| 04:16.57 | Tain | You got ponied? |
| 04:17.32 | JoshBorke | yep |
| 04:17.39 | AnduinLothar | kergoth> i cant get that @ syntax to work anywhere in log |
| 04:17.46 | AnduinLothar | what did you try that works? |
| 04:19.00 | AnduinLothar | i always end up with something liek this even if i use a single path and no -r |
| 04:19.01 | AnduinLothar | svn: File not found: revision 3925, path '/trunk/Interface@200' |
| 04:19.32 | kergoth | aww, damnit, i was wrong.. i was using svk out of habit, not svn.. i thought it was an svn feature that svk picked up, but it mustve been an svk enhancement :\ |
| 04:19.41 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 04:19.47 | AnduinLothar | what's svk? |
| 04:19.54 | kergoth | ~svk |
| 04:19.59 | purl | methinks svk is a decentralized version control system. It uses the Subversion filesystem but provides additional, powerful features. svk plays well with others, it can mirror remote Subversion, Perforce, and CVS repositories to perform offline operations. It supports star merges, cherry picking, etc. See http://svk.elixus.org/ |
| 04:20.24 | AnduinLothar | meh |
| 04:21.06 | AnduinLothar | ok, so what python script were you talkign about? |
| 04:22.22 | Industrial | Spread the word. http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=4 |
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| 04:29.11 | AnduinLothar | love how there's a downlaod but it doesn't describe what it is |
| 04:29.44 | AnduinLothar | pages and pages on how is works and principles, but no where does it say what's in the zip. |
| 04:30.00 | Industrial | the client |
| 04:30.08 | AnduinLothar | an exe? files that need to be compiled? a .app? |
| 04:30.12 | Industrial | im running it but its not really declared stable |
| 04:30.13 | Industrial | exe |
| 04:30.20 | Industrial | just try? |
| 04:30.21 | Industrial | :P |
| 04:30.29 | AnduinLothar | i'm on a mac |
| 04:30.41 | Industrial | its being ported or will be ported to linux |
| 04:30.41 | Tain | Wow that's some nonsense. |
| 04:30.43 | AnduinLothar | and i dont download things that dont say what they are |
| 04:30.57 | Industrial | I havent tried actually getting something with it but I see future in it - so I'm supporting it by testing |
| 04:31.15 | Tain | "We're not sharing copyrighted material because we're changing it to numbers! Everyone's safe yay!" |
| 04:31.28 | AnduinLothar | basicly |
| 04:31.51 | Tain | And exactly the same as every other digital distrubtion method that already exists. |
| 04:31.56 | Kaelten | anyone around that speaks german? |
| 04:32.03 | Tain | Du hast meich. |
| 04:32.07 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 04:32.20 | AnduinLothar | yes, i do hate you |
| 04:32.23 | Tain | All the German I know is from listening to Rammstein. :/ |
| 04:32.39 | Kaelten | I'm just wondering if Buchstabe auserwählt is an accurate translation of Character Select |
| 04:32.45 | Tain | Although I used to know how to say, "Your father should have squirted you in the corner." in German. |
| 04:32.52 | AnduinLothar | O.o |
| 04:32.58 | AnduinLothar | <.< |
| 04:33.11 | Tain | Yeah that was an odd summer. |
| 04:33.34 | Industrial | Tain, if you care; http://thebighack.org/papers/CopyNumbCJ.pdf |
| 04:33.37 | Industrial | the whitepaper |
| 04:33.49 | Tain | I dont' care but I'll ridicule it anyway. |
| 04:34.40 | AnduinLothar | it's just rationalized illegality. nothing especially new |
| 04:38.56 | Cairenn | night JoshBorke |
| 04:39.02 | JoshBorke | night all :-) |
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| 04:48.05 | Cairenn | night folks |
| 04:48.10 | Shadowed | night cair |
| 04:48.12 | AnduinLothar | night cair |
| 04:48.19 | Tain | Goodnight Cairenn, sweet dreams. |
| 04:52.59 | Kirov | damn it, I want to be able to search one of these damn wow sites by the tooltip text |
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| 06:06.22 | Corrodias | ....okay, this is very strange |
| 06:06.55 | Corrodias | my WoW froze, and now when i load it, my Atlas and Yatlas buttons are stuck where the minimap zoom buttons may have been (it's been so long since i last saw them) and i can't move them |
| 06:07.52 | Corrodias | no guess not, but Yatlas's button isn't in the right place and i can't move htem |
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| 06:12.15 | Corrodias | seems one of my addons' savedvariables files being replaced with a backup will fix the problem. now i just have to figure out which one. ;.; |
| 06:20.34 | Corrodias | hmm. this appears to be an issue with fubar or one of the plugins that i'm using, because when i deleted all those lua files in SV, the buttons became normal, but then setting up my fubar layout and relogging made them wrong again |
| 06:28.43 | Corrodias | specifically, fubar itself: fubar.lua is the specific culprit |
| 06:29.25 | Corrodias | the game halt issue is probably completely unrelated, something else i changed in another area and all... |
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| 07:58.40 | Kirov | in regular lua, how do you read a file as a string? |
| 08:19.10 | wereHamster | what does io.read() return? |
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| 08:25.10 | Kirov | Mikk - did you ever figure out what was going on with the exponential frame time increase? |
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| 08:27.16 | [WK]Loki | hello :o |
| 08:28.29 | Kirov | hello |
| 08:41.44 | Mikk | Kirov: Nope. I sent a very detailed report to Slouken though. |
| 08:42.06 | Mikk | I made sure to include timings over half a minute :-) |
| 08:42.51 | Kirov | heh |
| 08:49.42 | [WK]Loki | Anyone friendly who would help me with some noobish question about XML frames? |
| 08:51.07 | Kirov | Mikk isn't he bites |
| 08:51.12 | Kirov | but I'll help |
| 08:51.15 | [WK]Loki | :D |
| 08:51.30 | [WK]Loki | I started one day ago, so I've been reading a lot trying to learn a little bit |
| 08:51.37 | [WK]Loki | soo, I managed to create a draggable window |
| 08:51.45 | [WK]Loki | but I was wondering how could I put my own texture on it |
| 08:52.12 | [WK]Loki | I got this right now: bgFile="Interface\TutorialFrame\TutorialFrame-QuestionMark" |
| 08:53.02 | [WK]Loki | but I guess that file is inside some big MPQ file, and dunno what to write wich leads to my texture file |
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| 08:55.23 | Kirov | To use your own texture, just put it in the same folder and reference it with out a path |
| 08:56.14 | [WK]Loki | same folder as the addon, and with no extension that is? |
| 08:56.34 | [WK]Loki | let's try out, thanks :) |
| 08:58.00 | Kirov | save the texture as a .tga file |
| 08:58.21 | [WK]Loki | okie, I had it as blp :D |
| 08:58.39 | Kirov | that works too |
| 09:02.55 | [WK]Loki | I think I must be doing something wrong |
| 09:03.12 | [WK]Loki | just for in case I could mess up saving in a wronf format file, I took one of blizzard's textures |
| 09:03.19 | Kirov | just a sec |
| 09:03.28 | [WK]Loki | okie :) |
| 09:04.33 | Kirov | ah |
| 09:04.37 | Kirov | so, you do need the full path |
| 09:04.44 | Kirov | Interface\AddOns |
| 09:05.01 | Corrodias | that's only a partial path |
| 09:05.02 | [WK]Loki | so right now I have this lokitexture.blp in: |
| 09:05.07 | Kirov | Interface\Addons\ModName\blah |
| 09:05.08 | Corrodias | it's a relative path to the WoW executable |
| 09:05.13 | [WK]Loki | C:\Program files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\loki\lokitexture.blp |
| 09:05.16 | [WK]Loki | so would be something like: |
| 09:05.24 | [WK]Loki | bgFile="Interface\AddOns\loki\lokitexture.blp" |
| 09:05.53 | Kirov | .blp shouldn't be needed |
| 09:05.58 | [WK]Loki | ah okay |
| 09:06.02 | Corrodias | see, i put WoW under "Games" instead of "Program Files" because i consider it more of a game than a program |
| 09:06.13 | [WK]Loki | hehe |
| 09:09.11 | [WK]Loki | yay! finally works, thanks a lot :D |
| 09:10.24 | Kirov | np |
| 09:15.09 | Mikk | Kirov: I documented the bug properly now anyway.. http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_SetPoint/Exponential_time |
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| 09:27.50 | AnduinLothar | someone shoot me plz |
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| 10:14.20 | KarlKFI | bash makes me want to bash babies |
| 10:14.33 | KarlKFI | as in smash their skulls in |
| 10:21.05 | Corrodias | i want a spider, but i'm starting to think that this arachnophobia effect could be detrimental to my attempts to join a party that includes such a person. |
| 10:21.32 | Corrodias | i don't like dogs, but the wolf's furious howl apparently has some minor use during instances |
| 10:21.48 | KarlKFI | yes, it's fun when dpsing |
| 10:22.24 | Corrodias | what i really -want- is a pet that 1) can hold aggro such that i don't have to constantly hold back and 2) isn't so big that i can't see what i'm shooting at |
| 10:26.59 | KarlKFI | and i want an aoe stun |
| 10:27.07 | KarlKFI | on my pally |
| 10:27.30 | KarlKFI | warstomp pally == best ab defence ever |
| 10:27.34 | Corrodias | lol |
| 10:28.55 | Corrodias | i think... |
| 10:29.04 | Corrodias | i need more points in beast mastery if i want my pet to keep a mob's attention |
| 10:32.41 | KarlKFI | learnign when to hold back is a useful skill |
| 10:32.42 | Corrodias | aimed shot is only useful for pvp, right? |
| 10:33.01 | KarlKFI | mmm, my hunter friends love aimed shot |
| 10:33.11 | Corrodias | i'm tired of holding back all the time. i'd do better reducing some marksmanship points and moving them into BM, i think. |
| 10:33.20 | KarlKFI | we triple aimed shot the speakers in zg. dead. |
| 10:33.32 | Corrodias | haha, nice |
| 10:33.59 | KarlKFI | just get three hunters to do it at the same time and it's an insta kill since they're nto elite any more |
| 10:35.59 | Corrodias | i used to understand the "chained freezing trap" CC method, but now i can't figure out how it works |
| 10:36.31 | Corrodias | with a 30 second cooldown on feign death and the freezing trap only lasting... 13 seconds if you get the improved traps talent to full, i don't see how that works. |
| 10:36.33 | KarlKFI | feign/trap? |
| 10:36.53 | KarlKFI | dunno |
| 10:37.03 | KarlKFI | unless you distracting shot |
| 10:40.22 | KarlKFI | whats the cast/cooldown time of distratcing shot? |
| 10:41.15 | Corrodias | keep in mind that distracting shot makes them run AT you :) |
| 10:41.26 | KarlKFI | it does? |
| 10:41.28 | Corrodias | it's immediate fire, and i don't know the cooldown right now |
| 10:42.22 | Corrodias | distracting shot's purpose is to cause a huge amount of threat, like a druid's growl or a warrior's.... something that draws aggro. |
| 10:42.50 | KarlKFI | hunters use it all the time on me in pvp |
| 10:42.56 | KarlKFI | liek astun |
| 10:43.09 | Corrodias | maybe you're thinking concussive shot |
| 10:43.14 | KarlKFI | hmmm |
| 10:43.19 | KarlKFI | makes me run in circles |
| 10:43.32 | Corrodias | that's scattershot |
| 10:43.34 | Corrodias | i think |
| 10:43.37 | KarlKFI | blah |
| 10:43.39 | KarlKFI | k |
| 10:43.43 | Corrodias | it "disorients" the target for 4 seconds |
| 10:43.47 | KarlKFI | yeah |
| 10:44.09 | Corrodias | unfortunately, due to point distribution, you must choose between it and bestial wrath, at least until the expansion gets out. |
| 10:44.33 | Corrodias | i bet that wrath can hold aggro, but its two minute cooldown means it's not something for every mod |
| 10:44.40 | Corrodias | *mob |
| 10:44.43 | KarlKFI | only half the hunters i see in pvp really use their pets |
| 10:45.36 | KarlKFI | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:00.45 | Corrodias | i must pay for a respec of my hunter (points wasted in fruitless half-assed pvp notion) |
| 11:00.59 | KarlKFI | yeah |
| 11:01.10 | KarlKFI | it happens |
| 11:01.22 | Corrodias | i've done it with my druid too many times for my own good |
| 11:01.29 | Corrodias | well, now i'll go to sleep. 'ni :D |
| 11:01.32 | KarlKFI | i was thinking of going 31 holy and playing with it, but i think prot would be more fun |
| 11:01.40 | KarlKFI | night |
| 11:01.42 | Corrodias | and i have no idea what that means. could it be a priest? |
| 11:01.47 | KarlKFI | pally |
| 11:02.10 | Corrodias | that reminds me |
| 11:02.42 | Corrodias | i think my level 4 mage may be the only female troll PC in my realm that -doesn't- use the "pretty" (that is, expressionless and non-troll-like) face |
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| 11:02.59 | KarlKFI | :P |
| 11:03.26 | Corrodias | okay, i'm out. [away] |
| 11:05.12 | Corrodias | (gonna drop my spider for a wolf, methinks..) |
| 11:09.35 | KarlKFI | :) slashdot quote: "real nerds dont code html by hand, they write a script to code the html for them" |
| 11:19.56 | Industrial | First compilation ever I think is worth looking at (big thing mor me to say): http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5226-alexandra_built-in_UI.html |
| 11:20.35 | KarlKFI | minimap needs one of those green borders |
| 11:20.53 | KarlKFI | other than that it looks nifty |
| 11:21.39 | KarlKFI | oc, there is a border, just not in that old ss |
| 11:21.44 | KarlKFI | http://twebm.online.fr/alexandra/homepage_files/ScreenShot_080806_090453-2.jpeg |
| 11:22.10 | KarlKFI | widescreen ftw |
| 11:22.58 | Industrial | its discord |
| 11:23.00 | Industrial | :( |
| 11:23.03 | Industrial | I take it back |
| 11:23.08 | KarlKFI | heh |
| 11:25.46 | KarlKFI | woah, a positive commet! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4354-Cosmos_feat._Khaos_%28Win%29.html |
| 11:25.49 | KarlKFI | comment* |
| 11:27.41 | KarlKFI | hmmm, now I have the urge to make a custom minimap skin |
| 11:29.45 | KarlKFI | found a recent raiding ss of my ui: http://macblackdeath.no-ip.com/WoWRaid_UI_SS.jpg |
| 11:29.59 | KarlKFI | cept the portraits were messed up at the time |
| 11:31.52 | KarlKFI | putting together your own custom gui is fun. it's the maintinence that sux |
| 11:33.09 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 11:34.25 | KarlKFI | anyone can make a cool fad ui that everyone loves. The hard part is to keep that same thing working for months on end when addons change and break and maybe try to improve in spare time |
| 11:35.15 | KarlKFI | and i'm a complete fool to try and maintain and improve on the number of addons i've written... but how do you give them up? |
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| 11:36.22 | KarlKFI | and dont even get me started on writing docs for them all |
| 11:38.41 | KarlKFI | woah, when did ReputationMenu get to 976 downlaods O.o |
| 11:38.55 | KarlKFI | and zero comments |
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| 11:42.54 | Elkano | FactionsFu will beat you *crosses fingers* |
| 11:44.12 | KarlKFI | no offense, but it's more complicated than is needed |
| 11:44.19 | KarlKFI | less clickign the better imo |
| 11:44.37 | KarlKFI | tho it is easier to read |
| 11:45.13 | KarlKFI | the shift clicking could be useful tho |
| 11:45.27 | KarlKFI | not that i tend to announce that kinda thing |
| 11:45.44 | KarlKFI | more like... i need x more blah rep till rep |
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| 11:47.59 | KarlKFI | i might try out your ColoredWhispers tho |
| 11:48.20 | KarlKFI | looks liek it might be initially confusing if i have multiple types int he same window tho |
| 11:49.48 | KarlKFI | you're nearing your second page of addons :) |
| 11:50.07 | KarlKFI | I hated having like 12 addons and having to switch pages |
| 11:50.27 | KarlKFI | on the wowi skinnerid page |
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| 11:56.02 | Elkano | well, I dropped ColoredWhispers atm since tekkub has written a nice addon coloring names in class colors :/ |
| 11:56.50 | Elkano | but wrt FactionsFu: maybe I should add the 'x to go' with egt ctrl-click |
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| 11:58.41 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
| 11:59.16 | Elkano | kergoth, don't put to much work in your EBB branch since I started a recode using ace2 ^^ |
| 12:05.00 | Maldivia | Elkano, you use the german version of the game, right ? |
| 12:05.09 | Elkano | yes |
| 12:05.21 | Maldivia | what does /run message(RAID) say ? |
| 12:07.25 | KarlKFI | Raid |
| 12:08.07 | Maldivia | is RAID = "Raid" in all localizations ? |
| 12:08.58 | Elkano | lachtzug |
| 12:09.02 | Elkano | Schlachtzug |
| 12:09.08 | KarlKFI | no |
| 12:09.17 | KarlKFI | GlobalStrings.lua |
| 12:09.23 | Maldivia | Yeah, I know |
| 12:09.41 | Maldivia | it's just because I've seen so many people on the EU forums, use SendChatMessage("bla", RAID) |
| 12:09.53 | Maldivia | which will obviously fail on german, french etc versions |
| 12:10.00 | KarlKFI | SendChatMessage("bla", "RAID") |
| 12:10.18 | Maldivia | exactly |
| 12:10.43 | KarlKFI | french: RAID = "Raid"; |
| 12:11.08 | KarlKFI | german: RAID = "Schlachtzug"; |
| 12:11.43 | Maldivia | Ok |
| 12:11.45 | Maldivia | so it's just the Germans that's screwed :) |
| 12:12.18 | Maldivia | hmm, and probably the asians aswell |
| 12:12.52 | KarlKFI | holy cow Wardrobe has over 10k dls on curse.. |
| 12:13.02 | KarlKFI | on the last revision |
| 12:13.43 | KarlKFI | it figures, that the mods that are the biggest pain to update are the popular ones |
| 12:13.55 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 12:14.12 | KarlKFI | i swear.. looking at that code gives me migranes |
| 12:14.28 | KarlKFI | it's a good thing i didn't write it from scratch or i'd have to kill ymself |
| 12:15.00 | Maldivia | ... then rewrite it from scratch :) |
| 12:15.24 | KarlKFI | That's a good 100 hours of work |
| 12:15.51 | KarlKFI | and no one's paying me $3k to do it |
| 12:16.12 | KarlKFI | It's the swapping logic that's the worst |
| 12:16.50 | KarlKFI | swapping is hard enough to do by itself... adding queues and temporary outfits and automated swapping that's sposed to be 'smart' is insane |
| 12:17.11 | KarlKFI | that's the main reason I haven't added more auto-swap types.. I can't keep it all in my head |
| 12:17.42 | KarlKFI | Outfitter and ItemRack use flat swap techniques where swaps use one-to-one events |
| 12:18.23 | KarlKFI | Wardrobe has a variable fr each swap... if you're mounted and you go into the plaguelands it does something different than if you walked in |
| 12:19.26 | KarlKFI | and it remembers temporary outfits across sessions so if you go into plaguelands mounted and dismount and mount again and log out, you can log back in and ride out of plaguelands and dismount and it'll swap you back to what you started with |
| 12:30.48 | zespri | how do you make someone else the guild leader? |
| 12:31.04 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.06 | Maldivia | I think |
| 12:31.09 | zespri | cheers |
| 12:34.59 | KarlKFI | hmmm, no one's maintaining healix, are they |
| 12:35.27 | KarlKFI | oh a july release |
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| 14:07.50 | kaso| | Anyone knows of a tool that'll convert a Unicode string to one with the escape chars that i can use in code? |
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| 14:09.08 | Neronix | http://wow.jaslaughter.com/uni2lua.asp |
| 14:09.32 | kaso| | thank you muchly |
| 14:59.26 | Elkano | are there global strings set to the class names? |
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| 15:04.48 | wereHamster | is SoC melee or a spell? |
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| 15:05.19 | wereHamster | I see both parry and resist in the combat log |
| 15:06.56 | clad|out | Elkano: no, the second return from UnitClass() is full caps english, i.e WARRIOR in all localisations. |
| 15:08.10 | Saroz | cladhaire, you read my PM? |
| 15:09.07 | Elkano | I wonder why I thought that there are :/ well... using BabbleClass then... |
| 15:10.25 | cladhaire | Saroz: I didn't get one |
| 15:10.45 | Nightdew | cladhaire: did you get mine just now? |
| 15:10.50 | cladhaire | no |
| 15:11.04 | cladhaire | and i'm identified. |
| 15:11.13 | Tain | Did you get mine? |
| 15:11.24 | cladhaire | no |
| 15:11.34 | Nightdew | Saroz: did you get mine? |
| 15:11.39 | Tain | Ok good, I didn't send one. |
| 15:11.43 | cladhaire | lolz |
| 15:11.44 | Tain | I was worried though. |
| 15:11.48 | cladhaire | i'll log |
| 15:11.54 | Saroz | Nightdew, nope |
| 15:12.04 | Tain | Can you hear me now? |
| 15:12.08 | Nightdew | lol |
| 15:12.09 | Saroz | no |
| 15:12.18 | Nightdew | something is off though.. PM's dont work.. |
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| 15:12.28 | Saroz | Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) |
| 15:12.41 | Saroz | /nickserv register <pass> |
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| 15:13.35 | Saroz | got it now cladhaire? |
| 15:13.37 | cladhaire | Saroz: Thats a requirement for the way the new popups work |
| 15:13.41 | cladhaire | nothing I can help |
| 15:13.51 | Saroz | ok, will change the name of the var then |
| 15:14.24 | cladhaire | i'll see if there's an alternative |
| 15:14.27 | cladhaire | but i took that afrom the framexml |
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| 15:35.08 | Kaelten | I hiya guys |
| 15:35.58 | cladhaire | heyas Kaelten |
| 15:36.06 | Kaelten | hows it going cladhaire? |
| 15:40.14 | cladhaire | its okay |
| 15:40.23 | Kaelten | thats, good. quit my job yesterday |
| 15:40.54 | cladhaire | oh wow |
| 15:41.26 | cladhaire | is that good? bad? |
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| 15:42.27 | Kaelten | I'm glad, I start my new job monday |
| 15:43.37 | cladhaire | whats the new job entail? |
| 15:44.39 | Kaelten | I'm going into the management traniee program for uhaul |
| 15:46.13 | cladhaire | cool :P |
| 15:51.44 | Kaelten | ya I'll either end up as a center manager, a field relief manager, or a storage manager |
| 15:53.10 | cladhaire | plenty of locations are there I assume? |
| 15:53.42 | Kaelten | ya a handful to choose from in this immediate area |
| 15:54.15 | cladhaire | that's always helpful =) |
| 15:54.22 | Kaelten | pays not bad when I get out of training either |
| 15:55.43 | Kaelten | 2700/month .41 a mile per dium food allowance ect if I have to go out of town, bonuses, cell phone allowance |
| 15:56.06 | cladhaire | not too shabby |
| 15:56.13 | Kaelten | nope |
| 15:56.19 | cladhaire | i'm sad i'm giving up my income in a few months =) |
| 15:56.25 | Kaelten | although for the first 4 weeks its 9.5 an hour :s |
| 15:56.30 | Kaelten | whats up? |
| 15:56.36 | cladhaire | going back to school |
| 15:56.41 | cladhaire | to say the least |
| 15:56.41 | Kaelten | ah cool |
| 15:56.46 | cladhaire | just not sure where yet =) |
| 15:56.51 | cladhaire | and having no job for four years.. is kinda scary |
| 15:56.57 | Kaelten | I know there is one of the u ones in the OneBag local file |
| 15:58.52 | Mikk | huhu. school. |
| 15:59.09 | cladhaire | Mikk: lol ? |
| 15:59.18 | cladhaire | research isn't so much school |
| 15:59.21 | Mikk | Ah |
| 15:59.27 | cladhaire | and i'll be the UK, so it'll be a different experience |
| 15:59.37 | cladhaire | I'm headed to the UK for my PhD |
| 15:59.48 | cladhaire | for at least three years, and i'll work the fourth while i'm waiting for my bf |
| 16:00.10 | Mikk | I had this plan I'd go to Uni (Comp.Sci. master) after having worked for two years. |
| 16:00.28 | Mikk | After half a year, I had a look at the detailed plans for the coming 4 years. |
| 16:00.33 | Mikk | Turns out I'd learn exactly... nothing. |
| 16:00.43 | cladhaire | MSc isn't worth much |
| 16:00.51 | cladhaire | after the fact |
| 16:01.36 | Nightdew | Hehe i left holland for my wife.. she couldnt ground over there.. had a deal with Enron to finish my degree in the US lol.. that blew up in my face |
| 16:01.42 | cladhaire | but its all what you make of it. |
| 16:02.01 | Nightdew | going back next year.. get a totally different degree.. no point in getting it in SC |
| 16:02.04 | Nightdew | CS* |
| 16:02.06 | cladhaire | I did my BSc and MSc one after another, but had a great job while I was finishing the MSc |
| 16:03.09 | Nightdew | cladhaire: i dont think id ever could go back to being a full time student lol.. Night School is where it is |
| 16:03.18 | cladhaire | night school PhD would take 10 years |
| 16:03.51 | cladhaire | not to mention i hate my job with a passion =) |
| 16:03.57 | Nightdew | lol |
| 16:04.00 | Nightdew | what do you do? |
| 16:04.07 | cladhaire | i'm a monkey |
| 16:04.26 | cladhaire | i provide process system support for a company that has it elbow firmly implanted in its ass |
| 16:04.38 | Nightdew | lol |
| 16:05.50 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 16:06.02 | cladhaire | a huge weight has been lifted of my shoulders now that I know I'm done in 8-9 months or so |
| 16:06.07 | cladhaire | even if i dont know WHERE i'm going yet. |
| 16:06.11 | cladhaire | let alone how =) |
| 16:07.14 | Nightdew | hehe |
| 16:07.33 | cladhaire | but i'm calling it retirement |
| 16:07.38 | cladhaire | and i'll be screwing over my co-workers |
| 16:07.52 | cladhaire | cause we're on rotating on call... and we all take one of the major holidays |
| 16:08.03 | cladhaire | which are easter, thanksgicving, christmas and new years |
| 16:08.14 | cladhaire | i had easter this year.. which means i dont get it next year.. adn i'll be gone bfore any of the other holidays |
| 16:10.32 | cladhaire | *shruggles* |
| 16:18.05 | Nightdew | unless they find a new person quickly |
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| 16:19.27 | cladhaire | well one of them will just take over |
| 16:19.30 | cladhaire | nt that i care =) |
| 16:19.37 | cladhaire | not too worried about it |
| 16:20.15 | Maldivia | Cairenn? |
| 16:20.22 | Cairenn | yo? |
| 16:20.51 | Maldivia | Can I get you to accept the RaidReset update, so the US version is on aswell ? :) |
| 16:21.10 | Cairenn | nevah |
| 16:21.19 | Maldivia | *sob* |
| 16:21.25 | Maldivia | didn't know how to have two versions up otherwise, without having 2 seperate entries |
| 16:21.32 | Cairenn | that'd be how |
| 16:21.37 | Maldivia | ok :) |
| 16:21.47 | Cairenn | is approved |
| 16:21.53 | wereHamster | I so hate x86 .. |
| 16:21.56 | Maldivia | Thanks :) |
| 16:22.01 | Cairenn | welcome :) |
| 16:22.42 | wereHamster | sweet 64bit world.. where numbers don't overflow that quickly and where memory is more than enough |
| 16:22.58 | Maldivia | why settle for 64, when you can have 128 ? |
| 16:25.22 | wereHamster | mmap()'ing a whole 6GB file isn't possible in x86 .. it is on amd64 and 2^48 is more than enough memory for everyday use |
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| 16:56.50 | Mikk | 640KB should be enough for everyone! |
| 17:10.22 | Industrial | Mikk, hehehe |
| 17:16.48 | Mikk | ~chairdodge Cairenn |
| 17:28.12 | Mikk | steveballmerdodge Cairenn |
| 17:28.21 | Mikk | ~steveballmerdodge Cairenn |
| 17:28.24 | purl | ACTION slaps a 'DEVELOPER' name tag on purl and points Cairenn in his direction instead. |
| 17:28.30 | Mikk | erhm |
| 17:28.32 | Mikk | ~steveballmerdodge Cairenn |
| 17:28.33 | purl | ACTION deftly pulls Cairenn's flying chair out of the air and watches it tumble harmlessly to a stop. |
| 17:28.39 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 17:41.07 | Warla | howdy |
| 17:41.16 | Cairenn | okay, who here remembers ... "Horkin" ... is that the proper spelling? |
| 17:41.18 | Cairenn | hi |
| 17:42.02 | Warla | i'm fucken pissed at that lua crap... lol.. either i'm too dumb to find it or theres NO WAY to get the item ID of a item thats attached to a mail... |
| 17:42.37 | Shadowed | Think it is cair |
| 17:42.49 | Cairenn | thanks Shadowed |
| 17:43.44 | Cairenn | hmmm, didn't even think of that |
| 17:44.06 | wereHamster | Warla, GameTooltip:SetInboxItem() and scan the tooltip |
| 17:44.07 | zenzelezz | whose? |
| 17:44.16 | Warla | whereHamster |
| 17:44.18 | Warla | i need the ID |
| 17:44.33 | Warla | i have tooltip, color, quantity, name, texture everything |
| 17:44.39 | Warla | just NOT the damn ID |
| 17:44.56 | wereHamster | lookup the item in your item database? |
| 17:45.18 | Warla | yea.. its for storing the item in the database |
| 17:45.28 | Warla | i dont store items multiple times |
| 17:45.39 | Warla | so i use the item id as primary key for the database |
| 17:46.45 | Warla | right now i'm having 2 identical tables for items |
| 17:46.53 | Warla | 1. is regular items who i have a ID |
| 17:47.03 | Warla | 2. id the Mailbox items that i cannt get an ID |
| 17:47.31 | Warla | now from time to time i parse the mailboxitem table and search if i find a exact match in the regular item table |
| 17:47.48 | Warla | exact match = everything EXACTLY the same as the other table except the ID |
| 17:47.59 | Warla | but this is bullcrap i want that friggin item ID |
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| 17:50.29 | Tem | Damn you Login Server! |
| 17:50.40 | Shadowed | I got in on US about 10 minutes ago just fine |
| 17:51.13 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 17:51.14 | Tem | *evileyes* |
| 17:51.17 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 17:51.31 | Shadowed | Warla: Not sure if you can get the itemid from the mailbox items actually |
| 17:51.37 | Qzot | I can't get onto some servers, but the server with my main is down. |
| 17:51.44 | Tem | oh, no |
| 17:51.52 | Tem | I can login to the game just fine |
| 17:51.53 | Warla | Shadowed thats what i mean |
| 17:51.54 | Tem | I think |
| 17:51.58 | Warla | blows hardcore |
| 17:52.00 | Tem | talking about the forums |
| 17:52.17 | Shadowed | hrm, that's odd. you should be able to get it somehow |
| 17:52.18 | Qzot | Ugh. And do cancelled auctions tell you *anything* about the item you're getting money back for? |
| 17:52.32 | Shadowed | Are you trying to get it when they open the mail Warla? Or are you trying to get it when they are viewing all there mail |
| 17:53.45 | Warla | only when they open the mailbox and close em |
| 17:54.11 | Warla | i can scan all headers and attached items |
| 17:54.11 | Warla | except the damn id |
| 17:54.24 | Warla | its for my profiler webpage i'm writing |
| 17:54.42 | Shadowed | Not 100% sure, but the only way you're going to be able to get it it's looking like is looping throught 28,000 item's and comparing the name to the inventory name until you get a match, but that's usually kind of slow. |
| 17:55.09 | Tem | Shadowed, If you just do it on-demand it's not that bad |
| 17:55.27 | Tem | once you get a name match (or paritial match) you have to scan tooltips |
| 17:55.33 | Tem | and **that** is slow |
| 17:55.40 | wereHamster | Shadowed, lua has tables for that, you don't have to iterate through a table |
| 17:56.00 | Shadowed | hrm? |
| 17:56.18 | MoonWolf | Hmm does anyone here know how it is possible that a paladin just solod varimathras, sylvannas all gaurds and half a dozen of players ? |
| 17:56.22 | MoonWolf | on the PTR ? |
| 17:56.28 | Shadowed | I'm thinking no |
| 17:56.28 | wereHamster | use the name as the table key.. |
| 17:57.04 | Shadowed | There was some reason that didn't work if i remember right when i was trying that |
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| 18:04.00 | Qzot | LAST CALL! |
| 18:04.07 | Cairenn | *blink* |
| 18:04.16 | Qzot | LAST CALL before I started writing a new mod! |
| 18:04.26 | Qzot | LAST CALL to tell me it's been done before! |
| 18:04.35 | Cairenn | and the mod? |
| 18:04.39 | Qzot | LAST CALL! LAST CALL! LAST CALL! |
| 18:04.40 | cladhaire | lol |
| 18:04.47 | Cairenn | ~bonk Qzot |
| 18:04.49 | purl | ACTION bonks Qzot over the head |
| 18:04.50 | Shadowed | he didn't get that far in the thought process apparently |
| 18:04.55 | Qzot | Hey! Ouch! |
| 18:04.56 | cladhaire | you're.. psycho. |
| 18:05.03 | Mikk | Warla: Hmmm? I thought there was a function to get the item link (id) from inbox items? |
| 18:05.13 | Cairenn | "thought process"? I think you are giving him too much credit ;) |
| 18:05.15 | Shadowed | Mikk: Doesn't look like it |
| 18:05.24 | Qzot | The idea is to write an AKA mod, that lets users define new slash commands. With parameters. |
| 18:05.45 | Shadowed | The closet I can see is when you open a mail, but you can't get the actual itemid from just viewing the listing. |
| 18:05.55 | Shadowed | s/open a mail/open a mail you can get the itemid/ |
| 18:07.12 | Qzot | So /aka /a /auctioneer would create "/a" as a synonym for "/auctioneer", and /aka /nub(name) /t name You are such a nub!, would create a simple macro so that "/nub Cairenn" would do the obvious thing. |
| 18:07.26 | Cairenn | Qzot: neat concept |
| 18:07.28 | Qzot | LAST CALL! Tell me a mod that does this so I can avoid writing it. :D |
| 18:07.46 | Shadowed | Doesn't one of AL's mod do something like that? |
| 18:08.02 | Qzot | Hehe. I knew you guys would come through. ;D |
| 18:08.27 | Qzot | Um. Who is big "AL"? |
| 18:08.34 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar |
| 18:08.43 | Qzot | D'oh. Should have known. |
| 18:08.48 | Shadowed | I can't remember the name thought, I think he may have done something like that |
| 18:08.57 | Mikk | Satellite lib |
| 18:09.11 | wereHamster | al is the low byte of ax ^^ |
| 18:09.39 | Cairenn | satellite lib you say Mikk? |
| 18:10.02 | Qzot | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5130-Satellite.html |
| 18:10.23 | Cairenn | heh, my computer being slow, was gonna go get you the link, but you beat me to it, so nm |
| 18:11.00 | Qzot | Well, I like it when you do nice things, so go ahead. I'll pretend I don't have it. |
| 18:11.09 | Cairenn | too late |
| 18:12.39 | Qzot | Hmm. Satellite is for mod authors. Same functionality, but different target audience. |
| 18:14.04 | Mikk | That's what libraries are =) |
| 18:14.10 | Qzot | Yup. |
| 18:14.20 | Mikk | Writing a mod that you describe using Satellite would be ... fast :-P |
| 18:14.36 | Qzot | Maybe. It has lots of the functionality. |
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| 18:16.44 | KarlKFI | Satellite, what? |
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| 18:17.41 | Warla | damn |
| 18:17.43 | KarlKFI | i dont even see a description of what qzot was gonna write.. |
| 18:17.45 | Warla | my internet went boom |
| 18:17.46 | Warla | lol |
| 18:17.51 | Warla | http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/?id=1 |
| 18:18.00 | Warla | was the link of the profiler page i'm working on |
| 18:18.30 | Qzot | Does KarlKFI = AL? |
| 18:19.08 | Qzot | I was proposing writing a user aliaser, allowing users to define their own slash commands. |
| 18:19.27 | KarlKFI | yes Satellite does that |
| 18:19.45 | Qzot | So "/aka /a /auctioneer" creates a synonym for "/auctioneer" |
| 18:20.00 | KarlKFI | hmm |
| 18:20.28 | Qzot | ...and "/aka /nub(name) /t name You are such a nub!" would create a command so that "/nub Cairenn" would send her an insulting message. |
| 18:20.29 | KarlKFI | well |
| 18:20.55 | KarlKFI | yeah, no. Satellite doesn't do that |
| 18:21.56 | Qzot | ...and "/aka /caster j=1;for i=1,GetNumShapeshiftForms() do _,n,a=GetShapeshiftFormInfo(i);j=a and i or j;end CastShapeshiftForm(j);" would create a "/caster" command. |
| 18:22.21 | Qzot | But Satellite does a fair amount of the heavy lifting, from what I see. |
| 18:22.56 | KarlKFI | Satellite would make it easy to impliment such an addon, but it's not crucial |
| 18:23.16 | Qzot | Well, stealing ideas from it might be crucial. :D |
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| 18:24.53 | KarlKFI | well, it makes slash command registraction easy |
| 18:25.14 | Qzot | Looks like it. |
| 18:25.46 | KarlKFI | and it origonally had slash command hooking in it, but that's not reall ywhat you need |
| 18:26.37 | KarlKFI | what you really need is a function that you can input a slash command and get the chattype from |
| 18:26.45 | Qzot | Well, wouldn't you need something like that to alias built-in commands? |
| 18:26.51 | KarlKFI | then you could easily hook the function |
| 18:27.04 | KarlKFI | yeah |
| 18:27.21 | KarlKFI | i found out hooking slash commands was easy so i took it out |
| 18:27.23 | Qzot | That's the part I was hoping not to have to figure out from scratch. ;) |
| 18:27.43 | KarlKFI | which part? |
| 18:28.10 | Qzot | Looking at a text representation of a slash command, and doing what the chat parser does with it. |
| 18:28.39 | KarlKFI | yeah. I have a function like that in Satellite, but it only looks for slash commands registered by Satellite |
| 18:29.02 | Qzot | Ugh. |
| 18:30.19 | KarlKFI | but you could modify the function to scan through the wow ones |
| 18:30.24 | Qzot | Is there a method hanging off ChatFrame1 that could be called to do something like that? |
| 18:30.33 | Qzot | Ah. |
| 18:30.57 | KarlKFI | no, the method to do it normally is embedded in the ChatFrame functions |
| 18:31.04 | Qzot | Well, it's not the registered ones that are really hard. (Altho care has to be taken to do *exactlty* what WoW does.) |
| 18:31.38 | KarlKFI | that's not the hard part, all you have to do is re-register the slash command |
| 18:31.42 | Qzot | "Embedded in the ChatFrame functions". I.e., accessible and callable? |
| 18:31.45 | KarlKFI | since the function is availible |
| 18:32.04 | KarlKFI | no, but you could grab the code and make your own func |
| 18:32.28 | Qzot | Hmm. |
| 18:32.30 | KarlKFI | think it's in ChatEdit_SendText |
| 18:32.48 | KarlKFI | oh no |
| 18:32.49 | KarlKFI | ChatEdit_ParseText |
| 18:32.55 | Qzot | Are we still able to look at Blizz' UI source? |
| 18:33.02 | KarlKFI | of course |
| 18:33.24 | Qzot | Been a while since I decompressed it. |
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| 18:35.55 | KarlKFI | yeah, that idea sounds useful qzot, go for it |
| 18:36.37 | KarlKFI | Satellite is really more useful for it's ChatType emulation |
| 18:37.12 | KarlKFI | but it's table slash command registration makes it easier to update slash commands too if they change frequently |
| 18:38.04 | KarlKFI | not entirely necccissary for your project, but feel free to use it if it makes your life easier |
| 18:42.17 | Qzot | What's meant by "ChatType" emulation? |
| 18:52.47 | KarlKFI | voodoo |
| 18:53.24 | KarlKFI | ChatTypes get the full 9 yards, prefix, coloring, chat frame visibility.. etc |
| 18:53.34 | cladhaire | WHat isn't chat safe, \000 and \010? |
| 18:53.51 | KarlKFI | both clad |
| 18:54.04 | cladhaire | i know.. but is there anything else? |
| 18:54.12 | KarlKFI | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.21 | cladhaire | which is \032? |
| 18:54.26 | KarlKFI | not sure |
| 18:54.30 | cladhaire | i thought \010 was \n |
| 18:54.37 | KarlKFI | mmm |
| 18:54.40 | KarlKFI | i dunno |
| 18:54.45 | cladhaire | it is. |
| 18:54.52 | KarlKFI | i jsut knwo that \010 crashes and so does \n :) |
| 18:54.52 | Tem | oh yay lol |
| 18:54.57 | Tem | the forums came back up |
| 18:55.05 | Tem | oh well.. time for me to go |
| 18:55.07 | cladhaire | Tem: they were down? |
| 18:55.13 | Tem | LoginServerDown |
| 19:00.45 | Cairenn | still getting loginserverdown here |
| 19:01.05 | Tem | I must have just barely gotten through |
| 19:04.13 | Tem | guess, I'll bump again and hope it gets stuck there :) |
| 19:05.03 | Tem | so, Cair, patch this tuesday, yes? |
| 19:06.41 | Cairenn | so we here |
| 19:06.45 | Cairenn | hear* |
| 19:06.58 | Tem | heh |
| 19:07.04 | Tem | I guess that means the code is on lockdown |
| 19:07.25 | Tem | so my slider bug won't get fixed until the next patch |
| 19:07.49 | Tem | (or perhaps in a minipatch) |
| 19:11.07 | cladhaire | Anyone have some test strings they can give me to test this compression? |
| 19:11.12 | cladhaire | an example of some data you send? |
| 19:12.09 | Nightdew | cladhaire: what ya building? |
| 19:12.27 | Tem | LZ77? |
| 19:12.43 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 19:12.46 | cladhaire | someone needs it for a dkp app |
| 19:12.47 | Tem | fun |
| 19:12.59 | cladhaire | it also acts as some fundamental encryption too |
| 19:13.01 | cladhaire | which was his whole point |
| 19:13.11 | Tem | he's paranoid |
| 19:13.16 | Tem | which is funny to me |
| 19:13.16 | cladhaire | he could have throttled, but this helps protect (in a basic way) against people modifying data |
| 19:13.17 | cladhaire | hehe yeah |
| 19:13.38 | Tem | no one in his guild could possibly have the know-how to subvert what he's doing |
| 19:14.11 | cladhaire | In the worst case, "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz" only adds 4 bytes of overhead |
| 19:14.20 | Tem | (unless he succeeds in recruiting me, but the chances of that are slim considering that my fall work schedule basically means no raiding during the week) |
| 19:14.38 | cladhaire | Tem: You're going to not be able to raid during the week at all? |
| 19:14.56 | Tem | not really |
| 19:15.10 | Tem | 8-10 tuesday, thurs |
| 19:15.14 | Tem | 7-10 mon, wed |
| 19:15.23 | Tem | which is smack in the middle of most raids |
| 19:16.17 | cladhaire | "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ" however gets about 65% compression, but it can achieve better |
| 19:16.50 | Tem | ok, I really have to go |
| 19:16.59 | KarlKFI | clad grab PQ and try to compress the quest texts |
| 19:17.04 | Tem | I should have left for my parent's house 4 hours ago |
| 19:17.15 | cladhaire | KarlKFI: Do you have them in a SV somewhere |
| 19:17.15 | Tem | they broke their computer again |
| 19:17.17 | cladhaire | just pastebin a bit for me |
| 19:17.30 | KarlKFI | no they dont save |
| 19:17.31 | Flyoc | sooo |
| 19:17.36 | Flyoc | I've been looking around |
| 19:18.07 | Tem | and? |
| 19:18.34 | Flyoc | I dont find anything to help me set a timer in a WoW addon |
| 19:18.56 | Tem | you haven't looked further than your eyelashes |
| 19:19.15 | Tem | or perhaps were just looking with your eyes closed |
| 19:19.19 | KarlKFI | Chronos/Timex |
| 19:19.32 | Tem | timex is deprecated |
| 19:19.44 | Tem | AceEvent does it better |
| 19:19.50 | Flyoc | I dont want to use a library to make my addon wait 3 seconds |
| 19:19.57 | cladhaire | KarlKFI: It would just be the text from the thott alla text, right? |
| 19:20.08 | Flyoc | I somehow hope Lua allows me to do it in several lines |
| 19:20.14 | Tem | no |
| 19:20.27 | Tem | anyway |
| 19:20.28 | Tem | later guys |
| 19:20.29 | Gryphen | duplicate work people have already done |
| 19:20.33 | cladhaire | I'm calculating the limit of LZ77 compressino with these parameters |
| 19:21.05 | KarlKFI | basicly clad, |
| 19:21.34 | cladhaire | ok |
| 19:21.38 | cladhaire | this limit testing is taking a while |
| 19:21.40 | cladhaire | i'll test after this |
| 19:21.48 | cladhaire | but i dont think i got good performance on quests.. |
| 19:21.52 | cladhaire | like 75% or sometghing liek that |
| 19:23.32 | Flyoc | Gryphen: I'm trying to |
| 19:24.15 | Gryphen | it was sarcasm, sorry |
| 19:24.44 | Nightdew | if i have [Create Soulstone] what would be the regex to find what is between [] |
| 19:25.32 | cladhaire | local _,_,text = string.find("^%[(.+)%]$") |
| 19:25.33 | cladhaire | imho |
| 19:26.42 | KarlKFI | lcoal itemID, permEnchant, tempEnchant, suffix, itemName = string.gfind(linktext, "|Hitem:(.-):(.-):(.-):(.-)|h%[(.-)%]|h")(); |
| 19:27.32 | KarlKFI | or local itemID, permEnchant, suffix, extraItemInfo = string.gfind(itemLink, "(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+)")(); |
| 19:31.02 | cladhaire | .. wasn't he just asking about somethign in between []'s? =) not item links? |
| 19:34.50 | Nightdew | i was |
| 19:34.51 | Tain | Wow, a bunch of people in my guild are bitching up a storm because they lost items that were in their mailbox... that they were using as item storage. |
| 19:36.16 | kergoth | Elkano: hehe, okay, thats good news :) |
| 19:36.22 | KarlKFI | noobs |
| 19:36.33 | cladhaire | KarlKFI: 88% compression on http://thottbot.com/?qu=400 |
| 19:36.33 | cladhaire | 86% on http://thottbot.com/?qu=1450 |
| 19:36.41 | cladhaire | just on two simple tests |
| 19:36.41 | KarlKFI | kool |
| 19:37.08 | KarlKFI | i hope you removed |'s too |
| 19:37.17 | cladhaire | i dont do anything to the text |
| 19:37.30 | cladhaire | pipes are handled tho |
| 19:37.34 | KarlKFI | kk |
| 19:37.34 | cladhaire | if they are in the output stream |
| 19:37.40 | KarlKFI | kool |
| 19:38.10 | KarlKFI | I may use it for pq if you make a nice lib :) |
| 19:38.39 | KarlKFI | or maybe Telepathy.. |
| 19:40.43 | cladhaire | KarlKFI: You want to play with it a little? |
| 19:40.58 | cladhaire | its real simple, just LZ77:Encode() And LZ77:Decode() |
| 19:41.00 | Tain | That's a good pickup line. |
| 19:41.12 | KarlKFI | in aq atm, later will :) |
| 19:41.17 | cladhaire | *wink* |
| 19:42.32 | cladhaire | http://dump.brokendreams.net/files/LZ77.lua |
| 19:46.58 | wereHamster | cladhaire, did you write that? |
| 19:47.18 | cladhaire | .. yes |
| 19:47.20 | cladhaire | why? |
| 19:47.21 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:47.45 | wereHamster | I'd implement dec2bin() as a table lookup.. |
| 19:48.19 | cladhaire | you can't. |
| 19:48.30 | cladhaire | its not always 8 bits.. |
| 19:49.15 | cladhaire | i can i still can |
| 19:49.26 | cladhaire | but i didn't for testing, cause its overkill to have a 300 entry table |
| 19:49.32 | cladhaire | but necessary for speed in production |
| 19:49.43 | KarlKFI | what are you using tostring(format())? |
| 19:50.01 | cladhaire | i'm not |
| 19:50.02 | cladhaire | its tonumber() |
| 19:50.20 | cladhaire | conversino from binary to decimal, using tonumber("10110", 2) |
| 19:50.42 | KarlKFI | er ya that |
| 19:51.03 | cladhaire | its pretty heavy memory-wise at the moment |
| 19:51.15 | cladhaire | but we won't be able to get away from that very much |
| 19:51.37 | KarlKFI | i dont really care actually, less chat messages, the faster it will run on my system |
| 19:51.59 | cladhaire | hehe in theory.. if 80% is worth it to your application :P |
| 19:52.47 | KarlKFI | 80% of the orig size or %80 compression? |
| 19:53.06 | cladhaire | 80 of the original size |
| 19:53.06 | cladhaire | that's what I said :P |
| 19:53.10 | cladhaire | lz77 by itself is only good when things repeat alot |
| 19:53.20 | cladhaire | in this case, within a window of 255 characters |
| 19:53.40 | KarlKFI | hmm, well 80% of 9 messages is like 8 msgs.. |
| 19:54.07 | KarlKFI | illt est it and see if it helps |
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| 19:57.13 | cladhaire | I'm not really expecting it to be useful |
| 19:57.56 | cladhaire | To be worth it we'd really want to do arithmetic or huffman coding, but we can't use those in a localised environment. |
| 19:58.47 | KarlKFI | why? |
| 19:58.55 | KarlKFI | (i know nothing of compression) |
| 19:58.58 | cladhaire | because you have to transmit a dictionary, or have a dictionary up front |
| 19:59.20 | cladhaire | and the dictionary would have to have one entry for each character being used, which in most cases would be the size of the message itself, if not more.l |
| 20:00.08 | Tain | Looks like all the servers that were down for 12+ hours came back up for almost an hour, and back down again. |
| 20:01.16 | zenzelezz | US servers having trouble? |
| 20:01.22 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: Always =) |
| 20:01.27 | zenzelezz | truwe |
| 20:01.29 | zenzelezz | *true |
| 20:01.32 | zenzelezz | but more than regular? |
| 20:02.15 | Tain | There's a dozen or so servers that went down last night at midnightish and came back up this afternoon. |
| 20:02.24 | Tain | Now are back down again. |
| 20:05.21 | zenzelezz | Arthas affected? |
| 20:05.46 | wereHamster | cladhaire, have a fixed dictionary for all messages :) |
| 20:06.01 | wereHamster | HuffYUV does that, and it can compress to ~40-50% |
| 20:06.47 | wereHamster | yesterday, I've ported the x86 assembler to amd64 |
| 20:07.02 | wereHamster | and implemented a version purely in C |
| 20:07.42 | cladhaire | wereHamster: What localisation do you provide? |
| 20:08.06 | wereHamster | localization? (I know nothing about huffman and compression..) |
| 20:08.22 | cladhaire | an English dictionary does nothing for Chinese |
| 20:08.32 | cladhaire | it'll make the messages enormous |
| 20:09.09 | wereHamster | right, but you probably won't send chinese characters to the addon channel |
| 20:09.11 | cladhaire | wereHamster: THere are other limitations in wow too that we have to deal with.. Getting compression on a file-level basis is easy-peasy |
| 20:09.17 | cladhaire | wereHamster: An addon could/would |
| 20:09.44 | cladhaire | what about de? or fr? =) |
| 20:09.52 | cladhaire | ideally i get a large enough corpus of each language, and make a dictionary of each and provide them individually |
| 20:10.12 | cladhaire | but its still expensive, and not really worth it imo |
| 20:10.18 | cladhaire | makes savedvariables un-editable |
| 20:10.24 | cladhaire | chat messages un-monitoriable |
| 20:10.51 | wereHamster | ah, you mean compressing SV.. I thought to compress chat messages :) |
| 20:10.56 | cladhaire | either one. |
| 20:11.10 | cladhaire | compressing chat messages doesn't make sense compared to just throttling them |
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| 20:13.02 | cladhaire | but someone asked for it =) and i did it as an exercise a bit ago. |
| 20:13.21 | cladhaire | ok, going afk for a bit |
| 20:14.07 | wereHamster | I did it for me screen capturing app.. was really hard to get the assembler right, but it works great |
| 20:14.17 | wereHamster | s/me /my / |
| 20:15.50 | wereHamster | x86 passes the function parameters on the stack, amd64 uses registers etc... it's these little differences that make life hard :) |
| 20:16.30 | zenzelezz | I thought it was up to the calling convention how they passed it? Or is that higher level? |
| 20:17.09 | wereHamster | that's the Linux/BSD calling convention .. |
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| 20:37.41 | Flyoc | how do I get a random number from 1 to 5 in LUA ? |
| 20:38.13 | Flyoc | nvm |
| 20:38.43 | MentalPower | math.rand(5) |
| 20:39.43 | Flyoc | I used math.random, I guess it's the same |
| 20:49.49 | Warla | i remember when BWL was exciting.. not its boring onve on farm :-/ |
| 20:50.48 | Tuller | friend just had nax reset on em |
| 20:51.29 | MentalPower | Mikk: you around? |
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| 21:00.52 | Kirov | Anyone know why file:lines() returns nil in stand alone lua when the file is most definatly not empty? |
| 21:01.13 | Kirov | I'm using the lua.exe from wowbench |
| 21:04.03 | clad|Afk | do you have an open file? |
| 21:04.48 | Kirov | io:open("filename") |
| 21:04.56 | Kirov | isn't returning nil |
| 21:05.00 | Kirov | so yes |
| 21:05.07 | clad|Afk | it should be io.open, just to be clear |
| 21:05.16 | clad|Afk | i've always used io.lines("filename") |
| 21:05.37 | Kirov | I tried that too, but it wasn't ever entering the for loop |
| 21:05.59 | clad|Afk | gimme a sec.. lemme grab that binary |
| 21:07.20 | clad|Afk | for line in io.lines("C:/temp/blah.lua") print(line) end |
| 21:07.22 | clad|Afk | that works just fine. |
| 21:07.29 | clad|Afk | with those binaries |
| 21:07.46 | Kirov | odd |
| 21:08.48 | clad|Afk | (i compiled them, and i did a ton of testing on them.. that's wh i chimed in =) |
| 21:08.55 | clad|Afk | i just happened to pick my laptop up :P |
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| 21:10.12 | Kirov | how are you running the script? |
| 21:10.22 | clad|Afk | just in the interpreter |
| 21:10.42 | clad|Afk | which binaries are you running |
| 21:10.45 | clad|Afk | cause there are a few of them =/ |
| 21:10.53 | clad|Afk | want to dcc me the lua.exe over? |
| 21:10.57 | clad|Afk | make sure we're on the same version? |
| 21:11.15 | Kirov | if you've got a more recent working one, I might as wel just upgrade |
| 21:11.23 | Kirov | wowbench-1.12.0.a1 |
| 21:11.41 | clad|Afk | just downloaded the whole package? |
| 21:12.00 | Kirov | yep |
| 21:12.15 | clad|Afk | k |
| 21:13.31 | clad|Afk | double clicking on lua.exe, and typing for line in io.lines("C:/temp/blah.lua") do print(line) end |
| 21:14.02 | clad|Afk | for line in io.lines("C:\\temp\\blah.lua") do print(line) end works as well |
| 21:14.17 | Kirov | works |
| 21:14.41 | Kirov | does each line include the \n at the end? |
| 21:14.47 | clad|Afk | i'm not sure |
| 21:15.22 | clad|Afk | for line in io.open("C:\\temp\\blah.lua"):lines() do print(line) end |
| 21:15.24 | clad|Afk | works as well |
| 21:15.35 | clad|Afk | i believe it strips the newline from the end |
| 21:15.44 | clad|Afk | since its using the newlines as the separators |
| 21:16.05 | Kirov | ok, is there a way to just chunk the entire file at once? |
| 21:16.46 | clad|Afk | local file = io.open("C:/temp/blah.lua") local buffer = io.read("*all") |
| 21:17.06 | Kirov | sweet |
| 21:17.09 | Kirov | magically working now |
| 21:17.10 | clad|Afk | err |
| 21:17.11 | Kirov | >.< |
| 21:17.11 | clad|Afk | i lied. |
| 21:17.19 | Kirov | file:read |
| 21:17.23 | clad|Afk | aye |
| 21:17.26 | clad|Afk | its the *all that works |
| 21:17.40 | clad|Afk | it reads the file in immediately, and takes like no time, and no garbage |
| 21:17.44 | clad|Afk | as opposed to an incremental read |
| 21:17.48 | clad|Afk | its more of a special form |
| 21:18.04 | clad|Afk | if you're intersted, i have a lua binary that includes luafilesystem, bitlib and lpack |
| 21:18.25 | clad|Afk | its 5.1, so you can use all the new fun stuff if you want. |
| 21:18.29 | clad|Afk | (if you're doign fs operations) |
| 21:18.53 | Kirov | nothing too fancy really |
| 21:19.24 | Kirov | going through my lua scripts and cleaning them up some |
| 21:19.32 | clad|Afk | i use lua a lot at work |
| 21:19.40 | clad|Afk | so i have a way to make lua executables that just "Work" =) |
| 21:19.45 | clad|Afk | so i've been owkring on my environment a lot. |
| 21:20.00 | Kirov | I might start using lua a lot at work |
| 21:20.14 | Kirov | atm I'm doing MEL script for Maya |
| 21:20.24 | wereHamster | you use maya at work? |
| 21:20.28 | Kirov | aye |
| 21:22.30 | wereHamster | like a professional? |
| 21:22.58 | Kirov | lol |
| 21:23.06 | Kirov | yes |
| 21:24.33 | Mikk | MentalPower: Yes, for 2 more minutes |
| 21:25.13 | MentalPower | quick question then, how do i modify the hashing algorithm in AceComm to spit out an 8char hash instead of a 6char one? |
| 21:26.00 | Mikk | Aeuhhhhh sec, I don't know how ck pasted my snippet in |
| 21:27.15 | MentalPower | http://wowi.pastey.net/327 |
| 21:28.03 | MentalPower | I tried changing the string.format() to "%08x" but I always ended up with two leading zeros |
| 21:28.28 | Mikk | yeah the algorithm limits the output to a 24-bit number |
| 21:29.33 | Kirov | do you have to escape a _ in a find pattern? |
| 21:29.40 | Mikk | no |
| 21:29.43 | Mikk | but . |
| 21:29.45 | Mikk | er i meant - |
| 21:29.51 | Mikk | well . too |
| 21:29.52 | Mikk | =) |
| 21:29.59 | Kirov | thank you |
| 21:37.51 | Mikk | MentalPower: http://wowi.pastey.net/329 |
| 21:38.32 | MentalPower | many copious thanks |
| 21:38.39 | Mikk | untested, i should say :-P |
| 21:39.12 | MentalPower | fair warning, I'll keep that in mind |
| 21:39.32 | Mikk | (but even if it behaves different from how it should behave, it'll at least behave the same way for any one given string consistently, so it'll "work" :-)) |
| 21:39.47 | Mikk | hm actually i'll just run it through my hash tester |
| 21:43.55 | Mikk | hmm.. it's weaker than it should be |
| 21:49.58 | MentalPower | oh? |
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| 21:51.37 | Mikk | well.. i have crap all tools for hash quality testing at home |
| 21:51.39 | Mikk | it's all at work |
| 21:51.57 | Mikk | i just threw some basic quality tests together, one of which is how many bits are changed for one bit changing |
| 21:52.09 | Mikk | i should be seeing everything from 1 bit changing to all 32 bits changing |
| 21:52.20 | Mikk | i'm only seeing up to 27 bits changing |
| 21:53.10 | Mikk | but quite frankly i'm too tired to figure it out right now, and unless you're going to try and use that thing in a cryptographically secure framework (which you shouldn't in the first place since it's crap from a security standpoint), i don't think it matters too horribly |
| 21:53.26 | Mikk | the collision stats look the way they should, so i'll just go ahead and give it my blessing :-P |
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| 21:58.38 | MentalPower | alrighty then, sounds good enough for me |
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| 22:47.24 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 22:48.25 | Cairenn | hi JoshBorke |
| 22:48.48 | cladhaire | heyas JoshBorke |
| 22:51.45 | JoshBorke | how is everyone? |
| 22:51.59 | Cairenn | ssdd, you know |
| 22:52.07 | JoshBorke | ssdd? |
| 22:52.16 | Cairenn | same stuff, different day |
| 22:52.19 | JoshBorke | ah |
| 22:52.25 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 22:52.34 | Cairenn | although "stuff" isn't the word typically used |
| 22:53.06 | JoshBorke | indeed, that's what i was thinking it was :-D |
| 22:54.52 | Cairenn | well, you thunk right ;) |
| 22:55.17 | JoshBorke | hrm, i'm so sick of pizza but i'm too tired to cook |
| 23:07.00 | Hexarobi | np: SPIN DOCTORS - Two Princes "Two Princes (The Best of)" |
| 23:08.16 | Flyoc | np: Pink Floyd - Relics - Biding My Time |
| 23:08.32 | Hexarobi | spin doctors are a way better band than pink floyd! |
| 23:10.35 | JoshBorke | o.O Hexarobi is a Miss? |
| 23:10.49 | Kirov | spin doctors song |
| 23:11.33 | Hexarobi | np: SPIN DOCTORS - Little Miss Can't Be Wrong "Two Princes (The Best of)" |
| 23:11.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 23:11.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | wowclean helped a ton |
| 23:11.42 | Hexarobi | i just had a sudden need to hear spin doctors |
| 23:11.56 | JoshBorke | wowclean? |
| 23:12.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | my FPS has been crap recently, and i just ran wowclean and it cleaned up my WTF folder from unused SV files and now i'm running a LOT better :O |
| 23:12.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it was itemsync's SVs |
| 23:14.10 | Tain | Sounds like a late night infomercial. |
| 23:14.28 | Tuller | For Only 16 easy payments of $19.95! |
| 23:15.31 | Kirov | But wait, for a limited time you can get this free carrying case, worth an estimated $200!" |
| 23:15.40 | Kirov | Free! |
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