| 00:00.00 | Industrial | nm -_- |
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| 00:05.20 | Kirkburn | aha, I've got through to the settings for the TFT :) |
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| 00:06.26 | cladhaire | ~movepad |
| 00:08.14 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4767 :p |
| 00:11.08 | cladhaire | cair rocks |
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| 00:11.41 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:11.58 | zenzelezz | greetings |
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| 00:16.56 | Kirkburn | Iriel, I ran a display optimisation thingy - I can see the detail now :D |
| 00:18.45 | zenzelezz | so now's when you get to notice half of your porn is poor quality |
| 00:19.00 | xtacular | yay, parsed itemset.dbc completely |
| 00:20.05 | Legorol | Cide, are you around? |
| 00:20.09 | Cide | ya |
| 00:20.15 | Legorol | do you code BossMod yourself? |
| 00:20.20 | Cide | yes |
| 00:20.23 | Cide | why? |
| 00:20.32 | Legorol | we found it doesn't give warning for the first life drain on Hakkar |
| 00:20.40 | Legorol | i also figured out why, and we have a proposed fix |
| 00:20.41 | Kirov | Legorol - nope |
| 00:20.58 | Kirov | Legorol - start it from the first Hakkar yell? |
| 00:21.00 | Legorol | yup |
| 00:21.06 | Legorol | text is on wowwiki |
| 00:21.06 | Iriel | Kirkburn : Yay |
| 00:21.11 | Kirov | you know what fight is evil? |
| 00:21.16 | Kirov | Twin Emps |
| 00:21.24 | Legorol | i don't know who those are and don't want to know :) |
| 00:21.29 | Kirov | They yell everything they say _but_ their starting speech. |
| 00:21.52 | Legorol | so how does the player get it? |
| 00:21.55 | Legorol | is it audio only? |
| 00:21.57 | Kirkburn | The colours aren't totally the same, but it was definately my laptop that was the problem, and it's much better =) |
| 00:22.00 | Cide | audio only, yep |
| 00:22.00 | Kirov | which is funny since they both say something at the same time making it near impossible to know what they're saying. |
| 00:22.35 | Kirov | ie: it's a situation where it would actually be nice if they said stuff in text. |
| 00:22.36 | Legorol | Cide: so what do you think, do you think you can add this at some point? |
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| 00:22.46 | Cide | probably |
| 00:22.48 | Kirov | Cide - and baby eating |
| 00:22.50 | Legorol | no hurry for me since my guild already has its fixed version :) |
| 00:23.10 | Legorol | sometimes i feel i'm lucky i speak Lua |
| 00:23.19 | Legorol | something borked in CTRA? no problem! let's fix it up! |
| 00:23.35 | Legorol | and sometimes i feel its a curse I know this evil language.. |
| 00:23.43 | Cide | haha |
| 00:24.17 | Legorol | also, having a renowned mod author as our GM helps too (name withheld to protect sensitive private data) |
| 00:24.28 | Kirov | Legorol - same, but usually because I keep writing "then" after if statements in my code at work then can't figure out what's wrong with the syntax preventing it from compiling. |
| 00:24.33 | Legorol | it means we get little mods for everything under the Sun.. |
| 00:24.40 | Legorol | and he can actually force people to use it ;_) |
| 00:24.46 | Cide | haha |
| 00:24.56 | Cide | we force people to use... certain.. mods, too |
| 00:25.03 | Legorol | like CTRA? :P |
| 00:25.17 | Cide | if they don't update to a version we're beta testing they're not raiding that night |
| 00:25.22 | Legorol | lol |
| 00:25.29 | Legorol | so you make your guild beta test it for you, that's cool |
| 00:25.39 | Cide | yup :) |
| 00:25.52 | Legorol | and you pray something crucial isn't broken mid-fight |
| 00:26.02 | Cide | for the initial release and for the upcoming ctra2 release, we did and will have other guilds beta test it |
| 00:26.15 | Cide | haha, that's happened a couple of times |
| 00:26.34 | Cide | I broke debuff curing right before chromaggus, for example |
| 00:26.42 | Cide | which is the biggest dispel fight in the game |
| 00:26.43 | Legorol | hehe i fixed up the Hakkar fight, then i was praying it works :D |
| 00:26.52 | Kirov | I wrote a mod onces that had a "minor" bug in that it created an infinte loop parsing the raid chat. |
| 00:27.31 | Kirov | I was parsing combat log for a particular line, then spaming it to raid chat ... which the mod was registered to watch on accident |
| 00:27.31 | Cide | "minor" bugs are fun |
| 00:27.33 | Legorol | not having the first 90 sec warning has contributed to a wipe for us on my first ever raid :) |
| 00:27.48 | Cide | Legorol: hehe |
| 00:27.49 | Legorol | Kirov: lol |
| 00:27.57 | Legorol | and yes, i did go to ZG |
| 00:28.02 | Legorol | i know that now the world has come to an end.. |
| 00:28.03 | Cide | how'd you like it? :) |
| 00:28.04 | Legorol | it was terrific :) |
| 00:28.13 | Legorol | totally awesome, everything over my head etc. |
| 00:28.24 | Legorol | my guild's been raiding for a while, so it was pretty fast paced |
| 00:28.38 | Cide | yeah, that's nice |
| 00:28.48 | Cide | gets more boring when things are slow |
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| 00:28.48 | Legorol | it was a steep learning curve, i got to be MT2 on my first ever raid, with the rest of the people all being experienced |
| 00:29.06 | Cide | haha, that must've been an interesting experience |
| 00:29.07 | Legorol | so it was fantastically enjoyable |
| 00:29.18 | Legorol | i also realised i still have lot to learn :) |
| 00:29.31 | Legorol | anyway, we got Hakkar (eventually, after 2 wipes) on my first night, yay! |
| 00:29.43 | Legorol | but i was annoyed about lack of warning, so i figured i'll fix it up for next day |
| 00:30.00 | Legorol | it was very exciting you see, because i was noob at raiding, but had the necessary coding experience :) |
| 00:30.15 | Cide | haha |
| 00:30.24 | Legorol | so next day it was my task (having the only copy with the fix) to do the timer on Hakkar |
| 00:30.29 | Cide | raiding + modding = awesome |
| 00:30.38 | Legorol | it was an interesting duality |
| 00:30.46 | Legorol | noob raider + experienced modder = weird combination |
| 00:31.13 | Legorol | anyway, it was a blast |
| 00:31.30 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 00:31.43 | Tain | Yeah people are getting tired of suggesting an addon to the guild and having me rip it for it's coding and never even looking at whether or not it's functionality is useful to the raid. |
| 00:31.58 | Legorol | lol! |
| 00:32.06 | Legorol | i realised there is a big advantage in getting to 60 very slowly in an old guild: |
| 00:32.15 | Legorol | the last week or so was loot-galore for me |
| 00:32.25 | Tain | Seriously there's some good ideas with less-than-efficient code. |
| 00:32.33 | Legorol | as i went through 5-mans and ZG with my guild, pretty much all warrior loot was passed to me, others already having better loot |
| 00:32.50 | Legorol | i think i must've picked up around 15 or so blue items, several lvl 60 ones |
| 00:33.01 | zenzelezz | you a tank or DPS? |
| 00:33.05 | Legorol | tank |
| 00:33.09 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 00:33.11 | Legorol | far more exciting (for me at least) |
| 00:33.19 | Tain | Yeah there is that. I'm right now a the bottom of a list of 8 Rogues for gear because I got a bunch of stuff. |
| 00:33.20 | Cide | I agree |
| 00:33.21 | Legorol | especially OT |
| 00:33.24 | zenzelezz | same |
| 00:33.35 | Legorol | i found i really had to have an overview of the fight |
| 00:33.48 | Tain | But I love my Bloodfang armor. |
| 00:33.49 | Legorol | i have to realise what's going on, can't just go and target MA's target |
| 00:34.23 | zenzelezz | I like the MT aspect, but dead scared of screwing up when I do :-p Don't have to worry for a while now... just got into a hardcore raid guild with equipment way over my level |
| 00:34.35 | Legorol | i'd love to be MT eventually |
| 00:34.41 | Legorol | i like having the responsibility |
| 00:34.46 | Legorol | and am not afraid to mess up either :D |
| 00:35.06 | Legorol | the thing most alluring to me as MT is that *I* get to dictate the pace ;-) |
| 00:35.16 | zenzelezz | depends on the guild ;) |
| 00:35.26 | Legorol | not always, but at least from what i've seen on trash mobs in ZG |
| 00:35.39 | zenzelezz | well, trash is trash :) |
| 00:35.41 | Legorol | besides, i have an uber-cool guild |
| 00:35.52 | zenzelezz | which one? |
| 00:35.52 | Legorol | i'd not change it to any other |
| 00:36.04 | Legorol | name withheld for privacy protection etc. :D |
| 00:36.09 | Legorol | look it up on EU forums |
| 00:36.18 | Legorol | j/k, it's called The Scorned |
| 00:36.25 | zenzelezz | ooh, I know of those |
| 00:36.52 | Legorol | it's an old one from before WoW |
| 00:36.56 | Legorol | i joined it when WoW started |
| 00:37.05 | zenzelezz | is your character's name also Legorol? |
| 00:37.12 | Legorol | what do you think :P |
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| 00:37.23 | zenzelezz | well, my char's not zenzelezz :) |
| 00:37.28 | Legorol | yes my only lvl 60's name is also Legorol |
| 00:37.38 | Legorol | you see, originally I created Legorol as a test character for addon coding |
| 00:37.39 | zenzelezz | just don't recall seeing you, but there's plenty of people around |
| 00:37.46 | Legorol | it has by far the biggest /played |
| 00:37.51 | Legorol | but somehow i also ended up leveling him |
| 00:38.00 | zenzelezz | such things happen |
| 00:38.04 | Legorol | recently, i decided it's time i got a lvl 60, so i looked among the dozens of my characters to pick one |
| 00:38.14 | Legorol | and Legorol happened to be highest level, so i decided to push for it |
| 00:38.26 | zenzelezz | back in Anarchy Online I first had a doctor, but created an alt to earn money for the doc... but never went back |
| 00:38.45 | Legorol | this also happens to be my oldest char |
| 00:38.52 | Legorol | the first one i created when realms went live |
| 00:38.57 | Legorol | so it's fitting for it to lvl to 60 first |
| 00:39.04 | Legorol | as it happens, warrior isn't even my favourite class :D |
| 00:39.10 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 00:39.12 | zenzelezz | heathen! |
| 00:39.19 | Legorol | but i figured whatever, i'll get a lvl 60, class doesn't matter |
| 00:39.24 | Legorol | i want to see the content in raids :) |
| 00:39.37 | Legorol | you know why it's a warrior? |
| 00:39.50 | Legorol | 'cause that's the class i'd played the least during betas |
| 00:40.29 | Legorol | so when i made my first char on live realms, i wanted to try out something new, hence its the oldest char i have |
| 00:40.29 | zenzelezz | warrior was the first class I tried, and the only I've leveled past 20 :) |
| 00:40.44 | Legorol | i think i have leveled almost all classes past 20 at least at some point |
| 00:40.52 | Legorol | only exception is paladin, the top was 19 for that |
| 00:40.57 | Legorol | i had one for the honor contest |
| 00:41.15 | Legorol | oh actually now that i think about it, i never had a rogue past lvl 9 |
| 00:41.19 | Legorol | hmm, maybe i should make one |
| 00:48.09 | Tain | Rogue became my favorite after trying most classes to at least 30. |
| 00:48.27 | Tain | Only ones I didn't go to 30 with are Shaman, Druid, Priest and Warlock. But I wouldn't play a Priest. |
| 00:49.54 | Tain | But I wouldn't play a Healer. |
| 00:50.20 | Tain | Druid is fun, but on raids you're a healer most of the time, and then dps/tanking occasionally. |
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| 00:54.20 | Kirkburn | Well, I'm done for tonight finally :) I updated http://chig3.georgepribul.eu/ and I'm off to a half-christian half-hindu wedding tomorrow |
| 00:54.38 | Kirkburn | Probably won't be back on here until monday :O |
| 00:55.12 | zenzelezz | have fun |
| 00:56.16 | Kirkburn | Will be interesting :P Of course, rain is forecast, but when isn't it in the UK :/ |
| 00:56.55 | Kirkburn | To all: have a great weekend! |
| 00:57.33 | Kirkburn | bye! |
| 01:00.24 | AnduinLothar | what's the stub tab on the wiki? [stub] ? |
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| 01:08.00 | Kaelten | howdy |
| 01:08.27 | Kirov | lo |
| 01:09.52 | MentalPower | hey |
| 01:11.29 | MentalPower | Are all BitTorrent clients memory/processor hogs? |
| 01:11.38 | Tain | uTorrent is wonderful (for Windows.) |
| 01:11.41 | Tem | probably yes |
| 01:11.49 | Kaelten | iTorrent isn't too bad |
| 01:11.55 | Tain | Tiny and featurefilled |
| 01:11.56 | Iriel | I like uTorrent a lot |
| 01:11.59 | Industrial | local _nothing = function() end |
| 01:11.59 | Industrial | table.foreachi({PlayerFrame, TargetFrame, PartyMemberFrame1, PartyMemberFrame2, PartyMemberFrame3, PartyMemberFrame4}, function(i, x) x:Hide() x.Show = _nothing end) |
| 01:12.02 | Industrial | pretty evil |
| 01:12.03 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:12.42 | MentalPower | I'm using Azureus currently. but I can't do anything even remotelly interesting with my computer while its downloading |
| 01:12.49 | MentalPower | that includes playing WoW |
| 01:13.08 | Industrial | i use uTorrent |
| 01:13.10 | Iriel | MentalPower : Check you've not overexagerated your upload speed |
| 01:13.18 | Iriel | that's the number one killer of connections |
| 01:13.34 | kergoth | Industrial: good choice, utorrent kicks ass :) |
| 01:13.37 | Industrial | yeah |
| 01:13.54 | AnduinLothar | Cosmos Release http://www.cosmosui.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=52736#52736 |
| 01:14.25 | MentalPower | 20KB/s on a Cable Modem |
| 01:14.27 | Industrial | you dont wanna stuff your connection cause for everything that comes in you need to send a notice you received it and if its too stuffed for it to send those packets your download speed will be very low |
| 01:14.34 | Industrial | at least thats what I understood of it |
| 01:15.18 | Industrial | hmmm with that code I just pasted |
| 01:15.32 | Industrial | finally the 'thud' sound of selcting a unit is gone |
| 01:15.39 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 01:16.07 | Iriel | Industrial : Yup. |
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| 01:26.35 | AnduinLothar | oh btw, there's also a Test Server distro for Cosmos availible through the patcher, but it's a little buggy |
| 01:30.34 | Nomad_Wanderer | when you want to share a chunk of text with someone here in IRC, theres a website you goto,, it's like codesnippet or something? I forget. |
| 01:31.13 | cladhaire | pastey.net |
| 01:32.21 | Nomad_Wanderer | oops.. :) |
| 01:34.28 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can someone look at a macro? it doesn't seem to work... I found it on the forums, and don't quite know why it's not working. I'm lookingfor a SW:P spammer.. |
| 01:34.30 | Nomad_Wanderer | http://wowi.pastey.net/296 |
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| 01:42.51 | MentalPower | Nomad_Wanderer: lemme re-write it for you, one sec |
| 01:43.28 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks.. I think it's old.. so it doesn't work... I'm hoping to keep itdependency free |
| 01:45.17 | Nomad_Wanderer | i.e. doesn't need super macro, or any addon to detect the debuff etc... Really, Thanks again for the help |
| 01:47.59 | MentalPower | yeah, it looks quite old |
| 01:48.07 | MentalPower | it assumes theres only 8debuffs |
| 01:48.14 | MentalPower | when the limit is now 16 |
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| 01:54.10 | Kirov | Cairenn - someone recently posted a nice looking chat management addon on the wow forums, did they ever put it up on wowi? |
| 01:54.14 | MentalPower | Nomad_Wanderer: http://wowi.pastey.net/297 <---That "should" work |
| 01:54.34 | MentalPower | haven't tested it tho |
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| 01:55.13 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5247-Conversation_Manager.html |
| 01:55.19 | Cairenn | that one? |
| 01:55.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | That looks much cleaner.. |
| 01:55.43 | MentalPower | see you later Iriel, have a safe drive |
| 01:55.47 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'll tell you if it works in a minute.. have to beat hakaar first ;) |
| 01:55.53 | MentalPower | lol |
| 01:55.54 | Kirov | that'd be the one |
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| 01:57.23 | shadhoe | im trying to get into some addon development, and Im sort of looking around for a decent lua ide, anyone have suggestions? |
| 01:57.49 | MentalPower | http://wowi.pastey.net/297 changed it a bit |
| 01:58.21 | MentalPower | shadhoe: there aren't that many IDE's per se. theres a plugin for Eclipse, but thats the only one I know of |
| 01:58.50 | cladhaire | shadhoe: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4989 |
| 01:59.26 | shadhoe | thanke |
| 02:01.20 | Nomad_Wanderer | Mental. is there a way to add a ChatMessage of System type when it detects and moves on? I.e. "ShadowWordPainDetected" |
| 02:02.17 | MentalPower | ChatFrame1:AddMessage("ShadowWordPainDetected") |
| 02:02.35 | MentalPower | stick that just after the TargetNearestEnemy() |
| 02:04.45 | MentalPower | cladhaire: that doesn't handle UTF-8 BOM's when it sends the file over to luac |
| 02:05.08 | Nomad_Wanderer | perfect time to try this out.. on Jindo :) |
| 02:05.20 | shadhoe | is wowwiki pretty much the best thing to look at for api reference and such? |
| 02:05.41 | MentalPower | shadhoe: yep |
| 02:06.52 | cladhaire | MentalPower: I don't care =) |
| 02:07.24 | MentalPower | :( |
| 02:07.30 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:07.36 | cladhaire | why do you run into it as an issue? |
| 02:08.37 | shadhoe | so are there any other tools that make this addon development any easier? |
| 02:08.42 | MentalPower | cause all of my addon's files are UTF-8 encoded |
| 02:08.43 | cladhaire | not really =) |
| 02:08.46 | cladhaire | just trial and error :P |
| 02:08.49 | shadhoe | or am I stuck with a text editor and wowwiki? |
| 02:09.00 | MentalPower | pretty much, yep |
| 02:09.09 | shadhoe | oh, fun times :) |
| 02:09.35 | shadhoe | I work in c# at my job, Im used to having all features of vs |
| 02:10.21 | shadhoe | feels sort of like going from cars back to horse and carts :) |
| 02:10.34 | cladhaire | well there's nothing to "need |
| 02:10.41 | cladhaire | scite has calltips and auto-completion of the API |
| 02:10.43 | cladhaire | with descriptions |
| 02:10.50 | cladhaire | other than that.. its just writing code =) |
| 02:10.55 | shadhoe | its not so much "need" as it is making life easier |
| 02:11.20 | cladhaire | well, thats what i mean tho |
| 02:11.23 | cladhaire | ther'es nothing to make life easier. |
| 02:11.25 | cladhaire | I give you the API =) |
| 02:11.29 | cladhaire | even the widget API |
| 02:11.29 | shadhoe | heh |
| 02:11.30 | shadhoe | e |
| 02:11.32 | cladhaire | and lua syntax highlighting |
| 02:11.37 | cladhaire | nothign more than VS could give ya =) |
| 02:12.01 | shadhoe | well, member navigation would be useful still Im sure |
| 02:12.10 | shadhoe | I imagine addons can get length as far as loc goes |
| 02:12.25 | cladhaire | i wanted to write a ctags interface, just haven't had a need |
| 02:12.26 | shadhoe | *lengthy |
| 02:12.32 | cladhaire | if a file gets too long, i split it up =) |
| 02:12.37 | cladhaire | but i agree |
| 02:12.38 | cladhaire | :P |
| 02:12.47 | shadhoe | and for things like that it would be nice if you could group a set of files as a project |
| 02:13.27 | cladhaire | you can use the WoWUI designer |
| 02:13.28 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 02:13.40 | cladhaire | its the closest to what you want |
| 02:14.00 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4222-WoW_UI_Designer.html |
| 02:14.26 | clad|sleep | pre-emptive sleep |
| 02:14.31 | clad|sleep | just getting mentally prepared |
| 02:14.44 | shadhoe | thats cute, does it let you edit lua though? |
| 02:15.30 | clad|sleep | i think it does |
| 02:15.37 | clad|sleep | *shrug* |
| 02:15.43 | clad|sleep | the xml editor kinda sucks. |
| 02:16.41 | shadhoe | I think Ill check it otu |
| 02:16.43 | shadhoe | *out |
| 02:17.03 | shadhoe | I can always go back to the horse and buggy though |
| 02:17.05 | shadhoe | :) |
| 02:17.23 | MentalPower | its not so bad |
| 02:18.52 | shadhoe | do most people go with the plain text editor way? |
| 02:20.01 | MentalPower | I do, dunno about the rest |
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| 02:24.24 | Tem | oh wow... |
| 02:24.47 | Kaelten | Tem: ? |
| 02:24.52 | Tem | there is a 1.5% chance I'll get 8/8 NW tonight |
| 02:25.00 | Kaelten | nice |
| 02:25.05 | shadhoe | grats |
| 02:25.08 | Tem | we have to get double nw drop |
| 02:25.09 | Tem | on nef |
| 02:27.46 | Kaelten | there isn't anyone who'd be willing to do a translation for OneBag do we? |
| 02:29.45 | MentalPower | to what language? |
| 02:30.17 | Kaelten | so far I have enUS, and zhCN |
| 02:30.23 | Kaelten | so any of the others :) |
| 02:30.57 | MentalPower | do you support non-standard languages? |
| 02:31.06 | Kaelten | whatcha mean non-standard languages? |
| 02:31.17 | Tain | Klingon |
| 02:31.25 | MentalPower | languages not currently cupported by the game |
| 02:31.25 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:31.34 | MentalPower | Tain: lol, nice |
| 02:31.55 | Kaelten | hrm, not currently. but I might offer it as a future feature. |
| 02:32.53 | MentalPower | well, whan you do, I can translate to spanish |
| 02:33.04 | MentalPower | s/whan/when/ |
| 02:33.10 | Kaelten | cool, thanks appriciate it :) |
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| 03:03.36 | Kirov | enUS and zhCN? That's rather random |
| 03:03.46 | Kaelten | heh, true, |
| 03:03.49 | Kaelten | about to have a german |
| 03:04.12 | Kaelten | I was away for a few days and when I came back someone had localized it for me on the svn |
| 03:04.24 | Kaelten | talk about weird :) |
| 03:06.12 | kergoth | Kaelten: someone went translation crazy, adding zhCN to half the addons in svn |
| 03:06.54 | Kaelten | I think it was hk2717 |
| 03:07.08 | Kaelten | I'm not going to complain he did a good job,a nd saved me the work of setting up the enUS translation |
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| 03:41.44 | Kaelten | night guys |
| 03:53.10 | AnduinLothar | hmm i see my internet took a crap |
| 03:53.18 | Industrial | 6am nn |
| 03:53.24 | AnduinLothar | night ind |
| 03:57.14 | MentalPower | Does anyone have a string hashing function I can borrow? |
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| 04:07.47 | ckknight | MentalPower, AceComm has one that goes to 3 bytes |
| 04:07.56 | ckknight | MentalPower, what for? |
| 04:08.06 | MentalPower | Item Set Name |
| 04:08.20 | ckknight | alright |
| 04:08.20 | MentalPower | "Vestments of Trancendence" |
| 04:08.55 | ckknight | yea, feel free to take a look at AceComm, at NumericChecksum, BinaryChecksum, and HexChecksum |
| 04:08.58 | ckknight | they're near the top |
| 04:09.08 | MentalPower | will do, thanks |
| 04:09.12 | ckknight | Mikk's really the creator of the algorithm |
| 04:10.04 | MentalPower | would you happen to have the SVN address handy? |
| 04:10.21 | ckknight | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Ace2/AceComm-2.0 |
| 04:11.13 | MentalPower | thanks |
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| 04:24.57 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 04:25.15 | Shadowed | If a hunter feigns. Do you think UnitName( "target" ) will change from the hunter on CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH, or after? |
| 04:25.26 | Shadowed | err, do you think target will still be the hunter |
| 04:25.47 | Dsanai | Why would it be the hunter? |
| 04:26.06 | Shadowed | Testing a theory for an auto targetter for hunter's |
| 04:26.15 | Shadowed | when they FD in pvp |
| 04:26.27 | Dsanai | Oh, you mean, will the target change for their opponent, not the hunter who's feigning |
| 04:26.41 | Shadowed | er yeah, thats what i mean. |
| 04:26.43 | Dsanai | Good question; you'd have to test it, I guess |
| 04:26.54 | Shadowed | I'll just use PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED :p |
| 04:27.08 | Dsanai | You could just wait for that event, right, and then select by name the hunter again |
| 04:27.33 | Shadowed | Well, you have to figure out if they were targetting it or not |
| 04:27.48 | Shadowed | don't want to autotargetter to target a hunter if they FD and you were never targetting them |
| 04:27.50 | Dsanai | So keep the last known target in a variable any time it changes? |
| 04:27.58 | Shadowed | yeah, just going to use that |
| 04:28.04 | Dsanai | And if it had that hunter, then had nothing, you know ;) |
| 04:28.23 | Shadowed | yeah :p |
| 04:28.34 | Dsanai | hehe |
| 04:28.46 | Dsanai | I don't do much PvP, so sorry I couldn't be of more help |
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| 04:40.26 | Shadowed | awww |
| 04:40.28 | Shadowed | PTR down |
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| 04:48.00 | Corrodias | i want an addon that gives me a list of enchantments and other recipes... like lootlink for production tradeskills. |
| 04:48.48 | Corrodias | *like a lootlink for |
| 05:04.02 | End | there's that rabbit on |
| 05:04.07 | End | s/on/one/ |
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| 05:04.20 | End | RabbitRecipes |
| 05:04.35 | Kirov | There's another one like that too. |
| 05:05.01 | End | RabbitRecipes has...some strange entries though o_O |
| 05:05.50 | End | Enchant Clock - Resistance has lesser nether essence to greater nether in its description |
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| 05:16.47 | MentalPower | gnight folks |
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| 05:44.30 | tvcouch | hey |
| 05:48.00 | tvcouch | ??? |
| 05:48.04 | tvcouch | hey!! |
| 05:49.29 | tvcouch | oook fine |
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| 05:59.09 | InterSlayer | anyone run into the bug where you have 10 channels, try to join one, told you're maxed, then are prevented from joining it at all until you relog? |
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| 06:04.25 | tvcouch | hey |
| 06:06.32 | s|loup | hi |
| 06:06.47 | tvcouch | and coders wanna make me a mod |
| 06:07.46 | s|loup | beta keys are out? |
| 06:07.54 | InterSlayer | hmm? |
| 06:08.06 | s|loup | just a question? ^^ |
| 06:08.15 | tvcouch | can you |
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| 06:10.45 | InterSlayer | anyone know a good way to detect if a lua scripted channel join was successful? :O |
| 06:12.05 | Cairenn | where did you hear that s|loup? |
| 06:12.24 | zespri | I think he is just asking, that's all =) |
| 06:13.22 | s|loup | have read a news about the winners of a game where user could win beta keys and that the winners are now informed so maybe in next time the beta keys could come ;) |
| 06:13.45 | InterSlayer | you can see if you won or not, but no news on keys or start of beta :| |
| 06:14.01 | InterSlayer | they keep saying they're aiming for release nov-dec, soo you can kinda guess from that. |
| 06:14.12 | zespri | winners were informed about two weeks ago I think |
| 06:14.21 | Cairenn | was just wondering myself, since I've not received anything as of yet |
| 06:14.39 | zespri | are you supossed to, Cairenn? |
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| 06:15.21 | Cairenn | everyone who went to BlizzCon got a card with a code on it to enter when they got back, giving them invite to beta |
| 06:15.30 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 06:15.39 | s|loup | oO |
| 06:15.58 | zespri | Cairenn, indeed. Forgot about it. |
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| 06:38.52 | InterSlayer | Hullo. |
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| 06:40.26 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 06:40.26 | slouken | Hey, anyone seen Cairenn around? |
| 06:40.46 | InterSlayer | he's been in and out :P |
| 06:40.51 | Cairenn | ... |
| 06:40.52 | Cairenn | she |
| 06:40.57 | s|loup | hihi |
| 06:41.07 | InterSlayer | ooomg |
| 06:41.12 | InterSlayer | do u know sorren =p |
| 06:41.50 | InterSlayer | he gave me bad infos. his faults! |
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| 06:46.29 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> "... Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, |
| 06:46.40 | slouken | *laugh* |
| 06:46.52 | Cairenn | grrrrr |
| 06:47.23 | slouken | ? |
| 06:48.37 | Shadowed | oh hey slouken |
| 06:48.43 | Cairenn | stupid thing not letting me change the message properly |
| 06:48.52 | Shadowed | thats what you get for toying with the topic |
| 06:49.25 | Shadowed | Cairenn blamed you for the bad 1.12 info, i have proof somewhere |
| 06:49.37 | Shadowed | actually hmnm |
| 06:49.46 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> "... Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror. Thus you would not have been informed." | Paste Code: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | 1.12 next week, or so a certain someone swears |
| 06:49.48 | slouken | She can bite me. |
| 06:49.54 | Cairenn | baby, you only wish |
| 06:49.56 | slouken | Oh wait, that's probably not a safe thing to say. :) |
| 06:49.58 | Cairenn | and I did not |
| 06:50.19 | slouken | swore not. |
| 06:50.27 | Shadowed | saying anything around cair has a potenal to be dangerous! |
| 06:50.47 | slouken | Bees have been known to suckle flowers! |
| 06:51.02 | Shadowed | run! |
| 06:51.19 | Cairenn | You guys just automatically assume that anything I pass along comes from Slouken. I've told you time and again that he isn't my only contact in Blizz. |
| 06:51.34 | Shadowed | The internet was built on assumination |
| 06:51.39 | slouken | lol |
| 06:51.47 | Shadowed | oh and lying |
| 06:51.58 | Kirov | So, I'm seeing a weird issue where two clients with identical ping and framerates are seeing an event happen exactly 1 second apart. |
| 06:51.58 | slouken | and bad home videos |
| 06:52.03 | Shadowed | and that |
| 06:53.23 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 06:54.08 | Shadowed | did anyone remember if there was a post a couple of months back saying that we wouldn't be allowed to do a 31/30/0 type of build at 70? |
| 06:54.11 | Shadowed | s/did/does/ |
| 06:54.28 | slouken | Case in point... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB84A3zcmVo |
| 06:54.50 | Shadowed | rofl slouken |
| 06:54.56 | InterSlayer | i think i remember them saying some talents might explicitly exclude other talents |
| 06:55.26 | Shadowed | balance issue will be fun |
| 06:55.47 | Shadowed | Also. am i the only one thats worried that slouken actually looking for that stuff? :p |
| 06:55.54 | slouken | lol |
| 06:56.11 | slouken | I get way too much spam at work. :) |
| 06:56.21 | Shadowed | mhmmmm |
| 06:56.23 | Shadowed | sure :p |
| 06:56.27 | slouken | I have to watch it at home. |
| 06:57.19 | Shadowed | you could probably find a more interesting TV show then bad home movies! :D |
| 06:57.28 | Kirov | So, I'm starting to think attempting to sync clients to server time is folly |
| 06:57.44 | Shadowed | what would the benifit be of doing that anyway |
| 06:58.11 | Kirov | attempting to sync combat log events |
| 06:58.41 | Kirov | doing so in a way that gets around ping differences |
| 06:59.02 | Shadowed | what'd that acomplish thought |
| 06:59.16 | Kirov | specifically |
| 06:59.35 | Kirov | I'm broadcasting when mobs gain frenzy (non-emote trash mobs) |
| 06:59.49 | Kirov | And attempting to sync them all. |
| 06:59.54 | Shadowed | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 07:00.04 | Shadowed | you don't want to get X amount of messages for every person running the mod? |
| 07:00.20 | Kirov | Exactly. |
| 07:00.46 | Kirov | well, I'm actually trying to keep track of how many frenzied mobs there are |
| 07:00.53 | Shadowed | mobs = mods? |
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| 07:01.05 | Kirov | no |
| 07:01.20 | Kirov | Death Talon Seethers / Qiraji Spinny Bitches |
| 07:01.29 | Shadowed | ah |
| 07:01.34 | Kirov | er, Slayers |
| 07:01.35 | Kirov | heh |
| 07:01.50 | Shadowed | Well, personally I wouldn't bother with it since the benifit wouldn't be worth the work |
| 07:02.14 | Kirov | Aye, that's what I'm starting to think too. |
| 07:02.36 | Kirov | Just only let it warn you once every 2 seconds. |
| 07:03.09 | Shadowed | If people have issues dealing with tranqqing easy trash mobs. theres other issues :p |
| 07:03.59 | Kirov | It's mostly there for cool factor, and the Qiraji Slayers are difficult because they can be vastly spread apart and difficult to keep track of all of them. |
| 07:04.35 | Shadowed | i usually blank out during the twin emp trash. are those the giant fearing pita melee? |
| 07:04.52 | Kirov | no, flying chicks that turn bright red |
| 07:04.57 | Shadowed | oh those |
| 07:05.02 | AnduinLothar | woah, a slouken |
| 07:05.02 | Shadowed | it's funny watching healers die thought |
| 07:05.21 | Kirov | AnduinLothar - Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain |
| 07:05.39 | AnduinLothar | the little green guy? |
| 07:11.06 | slouken | Huh? |
| 07:11.22 | Shadowed | was in one of the LUA files on PTR |
| 07:13.11 | slouken | Huh? |
| 07:13.18 | AnduinLothar | yeah, you lot me too |
| 07:13.22 | AnduinLothar | lost* |
| 07:13.32 | Shadowed | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/01205579/test/3 |
| 07:13.55 | Shadowed | Anyway! late, need to get some sleep |
| 07:14.07 | AnduinLothar | i think paladins should have a pvp pet healer so they can dps... like take all my skills and have a little healing frog that follows me around. |
| 07:14.14 | Cairenn | night Shadowed |
| 07:14.26 | Kirov | lol |
| 07:14.30 | Shadowed | they're called paladins AL |
| 07:14.32 | Shadowed | :p |
| 07:14.34 | Kirov | buttonName:SetText("Jihan - Black Dragon Flight"); |
| 07:14.52 | AnduinLothar | yeah... problem is i can never get people who don't live with me to pvp |
| 07:15.00 | slouken | lol you guys still don't believe that I don't actually do the Lua coding. |
| 07:15.03 | AnduinLothar | and no one heals a paladin |
| 07:15.30 | slouken | I have horkin and rislyn to do the dirty work. ;-) |
| 07:15.44 | Elkano | so you only do the chatting? ;) |
| 07:15.45 | Shadowed | confused the hell out of me when i saw it :p |
| 07:15.47 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i need to hire some monkeys too.. |
| 07:15.51 | Shadowed | thought i managed to break something |
| 07:16.00 | Kirov | AnduinLothar - I thought you _were_ the monkey |
| 07:16.03 | AnduinLothar | one can code for me and th eother can heal |
| 07:16.20 | AnduinLothar | i'm trying to evolve |
| 07:16.33 | Shadowed | Thought horkin was a test type thing guy |
| 07:16.49 | AnduinLothar | delegate my tasks to my 'other' selves |
| 07:16.59 | Shadowed | you sound like my GL |
| 07:17.20 | AnduinLothar | yeah.. no power here... |
| 07:17.21 | Shadowed | he's said that he'd have beaten naxx by now if he could clone himself 39 times :p |
| 07:17.29 | AnduinLothar | basicly |
| 07:17.41 | AnduinLothar | 40 paladins would own nax |
| 07:17.56 | AnduinLothar | i want a video.. |
| 07:19.44 | AnduinLothar | hey slouken, you ever see alex around work? |
| 07:20.01 | slouken | Yep |
| 07:20.30 | AnduinLothar | he's never on when i'm awake so i'm thinking he falls asleep right when he gets home or something |
| 07:20.46 | slouken | I just added some flying monster functionality for his wacky expansion content. :) |
| 07:20.54 | slouken | Yeah, he works really late. |
| 07:21.04 | Shadowed | sounds fun :p |
| 07:21.14 | slouken | Yeah, it's pretty cool stuff. :) |
| 07:21.48 | Shadowed | I can't wait to see what amusing exploits people come out with from the flying mounts |
| 07:22.01 | slouken | They're basically a get out of jail free card. :) |
| 07:22.07 | AnduinLothar | flying monsters that hang out with ogres or is that a diff area? |
| 07:23.23 | AnduinLothar | so how many people do you have actually doing UI coding these days? |
| 07:23.24 | slouken | Okay folks, have a good night. :) |
| 07:23.31 | Shadowed | night slouken |
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| 07:23.40 | AnduinLothar | night.. |
| 07:24.26 | Cairenn | you guys should have known better :p |
| 07:24.35 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i scared him off |
| 07:25.17 | AnduinLothar | you kinda wonder what he DOES want to talk about tho |
| 07:25.28 | Kirov | cookies |
| 07:25.36 | gnorlish | pie |
| 07:25.51 | AnduinLothar | i doubt he would be fishing for compliments |
| 07:26.00 | AnduinLothar | and he cant talk about unreleased content |
| 07:26.17 | AnduinLothar | and it's not like we're gonna talk about his personal life |
| 07:26.44 | Kirov | He's just around to be coy with Cairenn |
| 07:26.53 | AnduinLothar | must be it |
| 07:29.14 | Shadowed | Probably does it so she stops bugging him to join IRC :p |
| 07:37.10 | Kirov | Does anyone know what chinese have to type to get their target's name in chat? |
| 07:37.22 | Kirov | like, what's their equivalent of %t |
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| 07:59.14 | tvcouch | hey caienn |
| 07:59.31 | tvcouch | so anyone wana make a mod for me i got a great idea |
| 07:59.39 | tvcouch | (playing css atm |
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| 08:39.34 | tvcouch | hey |
| 08:39.40 | tvcouch | guys?? |
| 08:39.47 | tvcouch | and girls |
| 08:39.49 | tvcouch | lo |
| 08:40.36 | tvcouch | anyone |
| 08:40.41 | tvcouch | no? |
| 08:40.43 | tvcouch | oook |
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| 08:48.55 | zespri | what is Craftsman's Writ? |
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| 08:54.12 | Mery | a repeatable quest for insignia's of the crusade or of the dawn |
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| 14:19.11 | Kaelten | does anyone have any idea what part of CT_MailMod or gMail that grays out inventory items? |
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| 15:48.23 | pyfen | when creating an input box (text) how would I force focus onto the text box? |
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| 16:04.49 | Abenadi | pyfen, try EditBox:SetFocus(); |
| 16:05.25 | pyfen | naw I figured it out with <FontString inherits="GameFontHighlight" bytes="256"/> |
| 16:05.28 | pyfen | :) |
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| 17:07.47 | Abenadi | so, is there an script tag that I can use to detect when the enter key is pressed in an editbox? |
| 17:08.05 | Abenadi | *a script tag |
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| 17:53.56 | Tem | <OnEnterPressed> |
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| 18:04.16 | Abenadi | Thanks Tem |
| 18:04.22 | Tem | np |
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| 18:04.45 | Abenadi | Does anyone know if Naxxramas trash respawns if the boss isn't killed, but the instance is saved (by grabbing a frozen rune, for example)? |
| 18:04.54 | Shadowed | nope |
| 18:05.01 | Shadowed | or wait, yes it does |
| 18:05.24 | Shadowed | and yes, the instance is saved by grabbing a frozen rune |
| 18:06.08 | Abenadi | yeah... :sadface: |
| 18:06.24 | Kaso | get someone to camp the instance :> |
| 18:06.30 | Kaso | no respawns |
| 18:06.47 | Shadowed | they'll respawn in about 3 hours |
| 18:06.59 | Shadowed | It's pointless to do anyway, you'll have plenty of runes by the time you reach saph |
| 18:07.14 | Abenadi | I'm not asking because of runes, I'm asking because I'm wondering if we'll have to plow trash tonight |
| 18:07.33 | Abenadi | I only brought up runes to demonstrate that the instance was saved |
| 18:08.01 | Shadowed | yeah, you're going to have to reclear trash if you didn't manage to kill a boss |
| 18:14.47 | Tem | what's that windows command line thing that will tell me stuff about an ip? |
| 18:14.56 | Tem | the hostname would be most useful |
| 18:15.19 | Abenadi | ipconfig /all |
| 18:15.39 | Tem | an remote ip |
| 18:15.50 | Tem | all I have is the ip of a machine somewhere on campus |
| 18:15.54 | Tem | I need to know wtf it is |
| 18:15.59 | krka | it's "host" on linux |
| 18:16.02 | Tem | ipconfig will only help me locally |
| 18:16.11 | Abenadi | nbtstat -A <IP> |
| 18:16.22 | Abenadi | if its running netbios |
| 18:23.42 | Cairenn | muwhahahahaha I killed it! Die thread die! |
| 18:23.54 | Shadowed | what thread |
| 18:24.08 | Cairenn | the same thread I always want to have die! |
| 18:24.21 | Shadowed | which i don't know |
| 18:24.26 | Cairenn | MazzleUI |
| 18:24.31 | Cairenn | on the WoWI forum |
| 18:24.32 | Shadowed | ah |
| 18:25.08 | Cairenn | it's gone from 117 pages to ... actually, I don't know how many actually show for users now ... |
| 18:25.46 | Cairenn | it still shows 17 for me, but that's because I see all the one-line messages for each of the messages I've deleted |
| 18:25.54 | Tem | Cairenn, ? |
| 18:26.05 | Tem | why bother? |
| 18:26.11 | Cairenn | I keeled it! Dead thread, dead! |
| 18:26.17 | Tem | should have just deleted the whole thing |
| 18:26.20 | Tem | I hate that damn thread |
| 18:26.24 | Tem | so much useless drama |
| 18:26.26 | Shadowed | what's wrong with it? |
| 18:26.29 | Tem | over a UI that's pretty ugly anyway |
| 18:26.38 | Tem | (at least, imo) |
| 18:26.59 | Tem | if it wree my forums, I'd have deleted the whole thing long ago |
| 18:27.01 | Cairenn | Tem, I hate it too, but I'm not in the habit of just deleting threads without discussing it with the author first |
| 18:27.17 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.20 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.25 | Shadowed | lol |
| 18:27.30 | Tem | that's a discussion, right? |
| 18:27.38 | Cairenn | and I'm with you ... I keep looking at the compilation and going "but, it's really not all that" |
| 18:27.42 | Shadowed | You may have to let him respond once so it's a discussion |
| 18:27.54 | Tem | meh |
| 18:28.02 | Tem | discussions with me are all one-sided anyway |
| 18:28.09 | krka | drama FTW |
| 18:28.45 | Tem | Cair, what'd you do? |
| 18:28.48 | Tem | delete every message in the thread that didn't come from Mazzle? |
| 18:28.53 | Shadowed | lol |
| 18:29.04 | Shadowed | that'd be a fair bit of work |
| 18:29.19 | Cairenn | Tem: precisely |
| 18:29.24 | Tem | hahahahahahah |
| 18:29.44 | Cairenn | and I'm going through and deleting any of Mazzle's that aren't actual updates |
| 18:30.05 | Cairenn | it's the slower part |
| 18:32.25 | krka | do it with a simple sql query! |
| 18:33.09 | krka | delete from post where threadid=<insert thread id here> and posterid<><insert mazzles id here> |
| 18:33.10 | Shadowed | ssshhhhh |
| 18:33.48 | Cairenn | as I said, I already mass deleted everything that wasn't from her, that was quick and easy |
| 18:33.58 | Cairenn | it's sorting through the responses from her that are taking time |
| 18:35.03 | krka | oh i see |
| 18:36.01 | Shadowed | this proves my theory that the internet was built on assumination! |
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| 19:23.53 | chuckg | Wow. |
| 19:23.56 | Shadowed | ? |
| 19:24.00 | chuckg | Turning off smooth mouse was a 20-30 FPS increase on average. |
| 19:24.25 | chuckg | Needs to say "Will fuck your FPS up even on a brand new machine but will also have no apparent real beneficial effect otherwise." |
| 19:24.48 | chuckg | I think that would sum it up more accurately. |
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| 19:27.52 | Tem | how annoying |
| 19:28.08 | Tem | the blizzard edgefile for the sliders is bad |
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| 19:30.01 | Tem | similarly, why aren't all the blizzard sliders effected by it... |
| 19:32.01 | Tem | ok wtf |
| 19:32.17 | cogwheel | Check your premise... ;) |
| 19:32.54 | Tem | everyone open up your Video options |
| 19:33.02 | Tem | look at the UI Scale slider |
| 19:33.29 | Tem | notice the unsightly 1px line just above the slider |
| 19:33.56 | Tem | then look at the other sliders in the options frame |
| 19:34.06 | Tem | not a single other slider has the same issue |
| 19:34.18 | Tem | I thought maybe the text was hiding it or something |
| 19:34.23 | Tem | but I tried hiding the text |
| 19:34.32 | Tem | and hiding the background |
| 19:34.37 | Tem | no extra line is visible |
| 19:34.50 | Tem | So I thought maybe they were using different templates |
| 19:34.51 | cogwheel | I'm not seeing what you're seeing... |
| 19:34.56 | Tem | aaaaand, they aren't |
| 19:35.15 | Kirov | I don't see it either |
| 19:35.28 | Tem | lemme get a SS |
| 19:37.50 | Tem | http://imagelink.org/temp/307 |
| 19:38.12 | Tem | hrm |
| 19:38.18 | Tem | it's difficult to see in that SS |
| 19:38.27 | Shadowed | You mean the black line before the text? |
| 19:38.36 | Kirov | hmm |
| 19:38.48 | Kirov | not noticed that before, I'll have to look for it later |
| 19:39.38 | Cide | don't have that here |
| 19:39.42 | Cide | probably is a rendering thing |
| 19:40.03 | Cide | for example if you move around a gametooltip, the border doesn't look the same depending on where it is |
| 19:40.54 | Tem | http://imagelink.org/temp/308 |
| 19:41.04 | Tem | still happens when I move the frame |
| 19:41.19 | Tem | it also happens to my sliders that are modeled from that template |
| 19:42.16 | Cide | it's the ghost of christmas past |
| 19:43.13 | Tem | anyone? |
| 19:43.38 | Shadowed | ghost of christmas past |
| 19:43.40 | Cide | if you hide the slider, does it disappear? |
| 19:43.56 | Tem | yes |
| 19:44.08 | Tem | specifically, if I remove the edgeFile from the backdrop |
| 19:44.10 | Cide | and if you /dump :GetRegions / :GeTChildren ? |
| 19:44.12 | Tem | it disappears |
| 19:44.14 | Cide | ah |
| 19:44.24 | Cide | probably a rendering bug then or something |
| 19:44.34 | Cide | or just a bad backdrop setting |
| 19:44.43 | Tem | well, here's the part that boggles the mind |
| 19:44.59 | Tem | the other sliders on that frame use the same backdrop settings |
| 19:45.03 | Tem | but only that one is effected |
| 19:45.14 | Cide | do they have the same width/height? |
| 19:45.34 | Tem | however, I've created 3 other sliders (2 via XML using the template and 1 via lua with my own template) that all do the same thing |
| 19:45.44 | Tem | Cide, yes, setting wise, they are identical sliders |
| 19:46.22 | Cide | heh, no idea then |
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| 20:15.03 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:15.08 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 20:17.09 | zenzelezz | woot, Anub'Rekhan finally starting to take some damage on our attempts |
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| 20:34.39 | Tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=433261 |
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| 20:40.18 | Abenadi | I wish all my coding woes were purely cosmetic |
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| 20:52.20 | Corrodias | grr. it feels like i have a clogged saliva duct on the inside of my cheek.. |
| 20:52.40 | Corrodias | or something like that |
| 20:52.47 | Kirov | cogwheel - so, I tested out my server time syncing and came across some very very peculiar results |
| 20:52.59 | cogwheel | my coworker got a stone in her saliva duct recently... |
| 20:54.00 | cogwheel | "peculiar," huh? ;) |
| 20:54.28 | Kirov | cogwheel - 5 people all watching for a server event (mob gaining frenzy) |
| 20:54.44 | Kirov | 3 of us were synced to with in 0.2 seconds |
| 20:54.54 | Kirov | the other two were off by exactly 1 second |
| 20:55.49 | Kirov | further tests with 3 of us, one who always matched me and one who didn't, the one who didn't was always one second after us, or we were 1 second after him. |
| 20:55.54 | Shadowed | I stand by what I said about it being more work then it's worth :p |
| 20:56.04 | Kirov | Shadowed - I already ripped it out |
| 20:56.27 | cogwheel | Is it possible that the client only checks server time every second? |
| 20:56.44 | Kirov | cogwheel - yes, that's possible. |
| 20:57.01 | Shadowed | Just say "l2p" if anyone asks for it |
| 20:57.51 | cogwheel | If his client started its cycle .9999 seconds after yours did, that would explain the discrepancy. |
| 20:58.13 | cogwheel | Maybe have one of you log out and back in a few times and see if the offset changes |
| 20:58.32 | Kirov | cogwheel - did, actually. No change. |
| 20:58.48 | Kirov | the 1 second fluctuation did, however, occur just staying idle |
| 20:59.50 | Kirov | but, yeah, now I just said screw it and I'm just throwing out any broadcasts I see with in 2 seconds of another. |
| 21:00.35 | Shadowed | more then enough for raid bosses anyway |
| 21:01.57 | Kirov | the code was for trash, bosses don't matter since they just do an extremely large emote |
| 21:26.50 | Kirov | ~seen mikk |
| 21:27.04 | purl | mikk <i=bofh@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 5h 33m 43s ago, saying: 'Crushing blows on equal-level mobs ftw?'. |
| 21:43.21 | chuckg | Anyone know if the SCT 5.0 up on SVN works on live? |
| 21:43.54 | Shadowed | where is 5.0 posted? |
| 21:45.23 | chuckg | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1801.0.html |
| 21:45.53 | Shadowed | it uses ace2, the devil! |
| 21:46.05 | Flyoc | is there a mod that would display the HP/MP of a selected unit ? |
| 21:46.09 | Flyoc | not the current target |
| 21:46.15 | Shadowed | COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE is in 1.12 i believe and not 1.11 |
| 21:47.01 | Shadowed | or |
| 21:47.04 | Shadowed | SCT 5.0 and SCT 2.0 are now up on the SVN. Make sure you get the LOD options folder for each. Some features currently only work on the 1.12 PTR (Reputation, Honor, Extra Attacks,...). Please consider these still BETA at this point. |
| 21:47.05 | Shadowed | :p |
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| 21:49.28 | chuckg | Do'nt use those anyway. |
| 21:50.53 | SBird | i know nothing about addon making. how hard would it be to build an addon that simply allowed me to bind a key to swap weapons. while it would be preferable to do it by name by inv slot is doable |
| 21:51.54 | Shadowed | ooo itemrack 1.9 beta |
| 21:51.58 | Kirov | SBird - get ItemRack |
| 21:52.07 | SBird | itemrack doenst have something that allows me to toggle |
| 21:52.10 | SBird | by a key |
| 21:52.16 | SBird | i have to bind one set to one key |
| 21:52.30 | SBird | and i cant even get that to work properly |
| 21:53.12 | cogwheel | SBird, if you can make a macro to do it, just put that macro on a button and bind a key to the button... |
| 21:54.19 | SBird | what would be the command i would use for a macro? |
| 21:54.50 | cogwheel | Check out the UI and macros stickies... there are lots of examples of weapon swapping |
| 21:55.02 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?forumName=wow-interface-customization |
| 21:55.56 | SBird | thx |
| 22:03.52 | SBird | how would i go about finding the bag location of an item by it's ID or name? |
| 22:07.36 | Kaso | doing a loop of bags |
| 22:08.11 | cogwheel | There's an addon called UseItemByName (or something similar) |
| 22:08.35 | Kaso | local b,s for b=0,4 do for s=0,18 do if GetContainerItemLink(b,s) and string.find(GetContainerItemLink(b,s),"Name of item") then DoStuff() end end end |
| 22:08.39 | Kaso | easy :> |
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| 22:17.05 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 22:17.10 | Cairenn | hey JoshBorke |
| 22:25.00 | AnduinLothar | sup josh? |
| 22:26.21 | JoshBorke | tired :-) long week so far :-). i'm strongly considering IsCasting for HealWatch :-/ |
| 22:26.26 | JoshBorke | *grumble grumble* :-P |
| 22:26.50 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 22:27.02 | AnduinLothar | oh noes, that's be horrible! |
| 22:27.21 | JoshBorke | HealWatch is just at that point where everything works(TM) and i'm afraid to touch it and break everything |
| 22:27.28 | AnduinLothar | so don't |
| 22:27.36 | AnduinLothar | no pressure |
| 22:27.52 | JoshBorke | but it could make it better is the thing :-/ |
| 22:28.05 | AnduinLothar | :) I know |
| 22:28.27 | AnduinLothar | don't need pressure, when it's actually useful |
| 22:28.45 | JoshBorke | exactly |
| 22:29.08 | AnduinLothar | what kinda ui options you got for HealWatch anyway, i have to admit I haven't toyed with it |
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| 22:29.36 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: not much. just changing how the bars grow |
| 22:30.15 | JoshBorke | ie have things grow up/down |
| 22:30.32 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i need to add an option liek that |
| 22:30.49 | AnduinLothar | grouping heals/attacks would be nice too |
| 22:31.01 | AnduinLothar | not for yours tho ;) |
| 22:31.17 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: since mine is slightly different, i doubt this next feature will be very useful, BUT, I plan to have an option in the next version to 'detach' labels so you can place them all over your screen |
| 22:31.30 | AnduinLothar | labels? |
| 22:31.45 | JoshBorke | labels are what i call the targets of the spells, who's getting the heal |
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| 22:32.54 | JoshBorke | right now i restrict everything to my one HealWatch frame |
| 22:33.15 | JoshBorke | i want to be able to have some more freedom with it |
| 22:36.46 | AnduinLothar | how would sepperating the target from the bar be useful? |
| 22:37.27 | JoshBorke | no, separate the targets from each other |
| 22:38.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i am a banana. |
| 22:38.23 | AnduinLothar | so like dragging bars based on targets? |
| 22:38.34 | AnduinLothar | like APB in party mod |
| 22:38.37 | AnduinLothar | mode* |
| 22:38.48 | JoshBorke | i think so, yea |
| 22:38.52 | JoshBorke | maybe, i dunno |
| 22:38.59 | JoshBorke | i'm wicked tired so i'mma take a nap before my raid :-) |
| 22:39.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm so stoked i'm gonna catch snakes on a plane tonight :O |
| 22:39.58 | AnduinLothar | lol |
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| 22:53.26 | cladhaire | Mr_Rabies2: That opens tonight? |
| 22:53.56 | zenzelezz | snakes on a plane... was that some Chuck Norris thing? |
| 22:54.00 | cladhaire | haha |
| 22:54.01 | Tem | 10pm |
| 22:54.07 | cladhaire | lol niec |
| 22:54.09 | cladhaire | i should go see it |
| 22:54.13 | Tem | no |
| 22:54.14 | cladhaire | but i have work in the morning =( |
| 22:54.18 | Tem | don't pay to see that movie |
| 22:54.39 | Tem | wait until one of your friends buys/rents(/pirates) it and go to their house |
| 22:54.53 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 22:54.58 | cladhaire | but.. .but.. its snakes on a plane! |
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| 22:55.11 | Shadowed | overhypied, doesn't really look that interesting |
| 22:55.26 | cladhaire | its only overhyped because of the blogs.. which makes it worth it to me =) |
| 22:55.36 | cladhaire | How much would a [Hand of Edward the Odd] sell on your guys servers? |
| 22:55.42 | Shadowed | 800g-990g |
| 22:55.46 | Tem | very high |
| 22:55.51 | Shadowed | overhypied regarding there site in general too |
| 22:55.54 | Tem | it's one of the best pre-raid pally weapons |
| 22:56.04 | Tem | at least, imo |
| 22:56.10 | Shadowed | it was more wanted before they fixed the AV/AB issue with it |
| 22:56.10 | cladhaire | cause it won't sell well on KT |
| 22:56.12 | Shadowed | those were fun times |
| 22:56.18 | cladhaire | so i'd save it until i can transfer it. |
| 22:56.25 | Shadowed | where are you transferring too? |
| 22:56.33 | Tem | hopefully not to my server |
| 22:56.42 | Tem | I want to transfer out to meet up with clad |
| 22:56.52 | Shadowed | thought you were EU and clad was US |
| 22:56.58 | Tem | hah |
| 22:56.58 | cladhaire | Tem: Holy shit. |
| 22:56.58 | Tem | no |
| 22:56.59 | cladhaire | we need mages |
| 22:57.04 | cladhaire | or we'll be recruiting soon. |
| 22:57.13 | Tem | Shadowed, I just keep stupid hours |
| 22:57.16 | cladhaire | sorry for the language folks.. but i just remembered =) |
| 22:57.21 | Tem | I'm in baton rouge louisiana |
| 22:57.25 | Tem | language? |
| 22:57.31 | cladhaire | i said $h!t |
| 22:57.34 | cladhaire | i try to be nice in this channel |
| 22:57.36 | Shadowed | stop bitching |
| 22:57.39 | cladhaire | people idle here at work =) |
| 22:57.43 | cladhaire | eh screw you guys |
| 22:57.45 | Shadowed | tem beat me by a second :( |
| 22:57.57 | cladhaire | getting the latest 3000 revisions of a directory takes a while |
| 22:57.58 | Tem | lol Shadowed |
| 22:58.08 | Tem | unless Cairenn has something against it... |
| 22:58.20 | cladhaire | Cairenn's f-bomb meter just went off |
| 22:58.39 | Shadowed | but yeah, don't transfer to icecrown :p |
| 22:58.43 | Kirov | I think Cairenn's response to that was "I don't give a shit if you swear." |
| 22:59.29 | cladhaire | Tem: No seriously, if you want to raid on my mage, and are interested in transferring.. I believe we're going to be looking for a mage or two. And we're in the bag cluster that's expecting to get hardware upgraded soon |
| 22:59.54 | Tem | are you in the same battlegroup as nurfed? |
| 23:00.00 | cladhaire | umm.. what server are they on? |
| 23:00.02 | Shadowed | KT = BG10? |
| 23:00.07 | Tem | dunno, clad |
| 23:00.11 | cladhaire | Tem: We're in BG3 |
| 23:00.17 | Tem | I just know that I don't feel like getting my ass kicked by them |
| 23:00.32 | Tem | you guys killing Nef yet? |
| 23:00.35 | cogwheel | tem, just posted a reply... |
| 23:00.42 | Tem | yay |
| 23:00.46 | cladhaire | Tem: Yes, we're killing Nef |
| 23:00.50 | Tem | cladhaire, *cheer* |
| 23:00.51 | cladhaire | and working on progress in AQ40 atm |
| 23:00.57 | Tem | we're dead in the water in AQ |
| 23:01.01 | Tem | people won't show the fuck up |
| 23:01.11 | Tem | we've got the shrimp and bug family down |
| 23:01.27 | Tem | but people don't seem to understand "spread out" on sartura |
| 23:01.32 | Tem | (though, we've killed her once) |
| 23:01.33 | AnduinLothar | my guild's still workign on nef and wont start aq40 till we down him |
| 23:01.54 | Shadowed | spread out is just code for "run into the giant spinning thing" |
| 23:02.06 | Tem | Shadowed, yeah, that's it |
| 23:02.39 | Shadowed | old guild had been farming them for a few months and "spread out" usually meant that |
| 23:02.58 | Tem | cogwheel, damnit! |
| 23:03.02 | Tem | I hate being right about that |
| 23:04.16 | cladhaire | Tem: No, nurfed isn't in our battlegroup =) |
| 23:04.22 | Tem | *phew* |
| 23:04.35 | Shadowed | you people in BG3 are lucky |
| 23:05.10 | cladhaire | Shadowed: Because all the good guilds transferred off? |
| 23:05.16 | cladhaire | cause he had the shittiest hardware in the game? =) |
| 23:05.24 | Shadowed | cause it's better then what BG10 got |
| 23:05.35 | cladhaire | ah |
| 23:05.49 | cladhaire | avk |
| 23:05.52 | Shadowed | 4 "day one servers" 6 servers about 3-5 months old! |
| 23:05.54 | cladhaire | ack |
| 23:05.58 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 23:06.01 | cladhaire | we're almost all day one |
| 23:06.02 | cladhaire | i think |
| 23:06.06 | Shadowed | bastards |
| 23:06.34 | cogwheel | did you guys break the battlegroups page? :P |
| 23:06.44 | cladhaire | cogwheel: I called in some connectinos, so you wouldn't be able to see it. |
| 23:06.47 | zenzelezz | you don't enjoy T3 vs. T0 BGs? ;) |
| 23:07.12 | cogwheel | I *think* i'm in 1, but it's been a while since i looked and my memory sucks ;) |
| 23:09.11 | *** join/#wowi-lounge cogwheel (n=chatzill@intra.kistlerwine.com) |
| 23:09.32 | cogwheel | Umm.... I was able to get the title and a gray background and then FF crashed :| |
| 23:10.16 | cogwheel | neat... i remembered... BG 1 for me. |
| 23:12.05 | chuckg | So here's a weird one for you Clad. |
| 23:12.11 | chuckg | how do I checkout two mods to the same folder? |
| 23:12.23 | chuckg | Ie: I have SCT in Addons, and now I want oUF. |
| 23:13.34 | cogwheel | chuckg, it might be easier to check it out to some other folder and then copy it. |
| 23:13.44 | chuckg | Boo! |
| 23:14.29 | cladhaire | chuckg: The checkout should happen toa folder underneath addons |
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| 23:14.57 | cladhaire | i.e in your Interface\Addons directory, svn co http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/SCT |
| 23:15.05 | cladhaire | aah |
| 23:15.07 | cladhaire | i get your problem |
| 23:15.12 | chuckg | Well, in the case of oUF, if I point it to a folder it'll checkout the 4 folders to one folder. |
| 23:15.12 | cladhaire | SCT has directories underneath |
| 23:15.17 | chuckg | Same w/ oUF. |
| 23:15.18 | chuckg | Yep. |
| 23:15.25 | cladhaire | chuckg: Then check those sub folders out individually |
| 23:15.28 | cladhaire | since they're the actual addons |
| 23:15.32 | chuckg | Oh man, lazy! |
| 23:15.36 | cladhaire | your svn update will still hit the, but it seems to make the most sense =) |
| 23:15.40 | cladhaire | that's how i manage it O.o |
| 23:15.49 | chuckg | You convert me to command line now you make me type it 4 times! |
| 23:15.55 | chuckg | How am I supposed to lazy when I have to type!? |
| 23:16.12 | cladhaire | hey, whats my motto |
| 23:16.34 | cladhaire | four expensive operations, followed by one really cheap one =) |
| 23:16.51 | cladhaire | that's not really my motto.. but it makes sense here =) |
| 23:16.52 | chuckg | Now how would I end a working directory? |
| 23:17.01 | cladhaire | what do you mean? |
| 23:17.02 | Rallion | sigh...typing...oh, how I long for a neural interface |
| 23:17.05 | cladhaire | how do youst op making it a working copy? |
| 23:17.13 | cladhaire | chuckg: delete the .svn folder.. and no more svn control =) |
| 23:17.20 | chuckg | There you go. |
| 23:17.22 | chuckg | That's what I wanted ;) |
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| 23:17.45 | cladhaire | <-- mind reader |
| 23:17.54 | chuckg | Hugs and kisses are in order. |
| 23:17.57 | chuckg | ckknight, begin! |
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| 23:20.36 | ckknight_ | chuckg, hrm? |
| 23:20.46 | chuckg | Nothing. |
| 23:20.56 | chuckg | You just owe cladhaire some hugs and kisses for me. |
| 23:21.07 | ckknight_ | no thanks |
| 23:21.14 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 23:21.15 | ckknight_ | not in the mood |
| 23:21.23 | MentalPower_ | we noticed |
| 23:21.38 | Cairenn | keep it the hell out of my channel |
| 23:22.02 | ckknight_ | never planned to, Cairenn |
| 23:22.04 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: I like what you did with the new mod.. now just to convince my healers to use it =) |
| 23:22.10 | Cairenn | appreciate it |
| 23:22.14 | AnduinLothar | which one? |
| 23:22.21 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: The raid/group channel one |
| 23:22.31 | AnduinLothar | oh right ExtraChannels |
| 23:22.43 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: Now _that_ would be a feature I'd like to see Cide pick up, for the extra market penetration |
| 23:22.52 | AnduinLothar | sorry, little confused, i just compiled my addon list |
| 23:22.56 | Cide | hmm? |
| 23:23.18 | AnduinLothar | i'm like... hmmm party addon healers need... could be liek 6 |
| 23:23.31 | Cide | I have no idea what you're talking about! |
| 23:23.44 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5240 |
| 23:24.27 | cladhaire | Cide: Just a small low overhead way to have chat channels using 1.12 SAM |
| 23:24.39 | cladhaire | Cide: Thought it was a neat idea =) |
| 23:25.30 | Cide | but you can intercept your guildies' chat! |
| 23:25.45 | AnduinLothar | you can intercept addon chat if you wanted.. |
| 23:26.07 | Cide | that was a joke.. we use our class channels to throw shit at the other classes |
| 23:26.11 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 23:26.12 | cladhaire | so do we :P |
| 23:26.24 | AnduinLothar | yeah, the hunters always have the most interesting chat |
| 23:26.38 | Tain | The rogues in my guild don't like each other. |
| 23:26.41 | AnduinLothar | and the warlocks like invading the pally channel |
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| 23:26.48 | Tain | We barely speak in our class channel, it's a wonder there is one. |
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| 23:27.04 | Shadowed | rogue chat was always unproductive when i raided on one |
| 23:27.04 | AnduinLothar | now the healers channel is where all the fun is |
| 23:27.16 | Shadowed | we usually made fun of our guild leader ( because no officers/gl was in it ) for a few hours during raids |
| 23:27.30 | Tain | Not really a lot of coordination with Rouges except maybe suppression room in BWL, but really not even then. |
| 23:27.45 | Shadowed | good times |
| 23:27.47 | Cide | our rogues were always afk, so we forced them to use class channel "afkdps" |
| 23:27.48 | cladhaire | Tem: Have you thought about xfering at all? |
| 23:27.49 | AnduinLothar | "ok, next person who says 'owned' gets no heals!" |
| 23:28.02 | Tem | all the damn time |
| 23:28.06 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: Haha we do stuff like that too =) |
| 23:28.10 | Tem | but I fear I'd really regret it |
| 23:28.12 | Kirov | In my last guild all the classes had their own channels ... unfortunatly the rogue channel was called "ventrillo" and the paladin channel was called "officer chat" |
| 23:28.15 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: being a rogue and a healer, I get to be everywhere |
| 23:28.20 | Tem | I practically started my current guild |
| 23:28.20 | cladhaire | Tem: Aye.. i have the same reservations |
| 23:28.29 | Tem | I signed the charter and all |
| 23:28.34 | Shadowed | Usually the warrior channel consists of some warrior calling a target and then ignoring it and grabbing the target of somebody else |
| 23:28.40 | Tem | I am one of 5 original members still in the guild |
| 23:28.47 | AnduinLothar | "Ok, no one heal the hunter, lets see if his feign works" |
| 23:28.53 | Shadowed | lol |
| 23:29.04 | cladhaire | Tem: I'm.. the first charter member of my guild |
| 23:29.07 | cladhaire | we split from another |
| 23:29.14 | cladhaire | the GM called me at 2:00 in the afternoon and told me |
| 23:29.17 | cladhaire | i was 9th on the charter |
| 23:29.31 | Tem | wait, huh? |
| 23:29.47 | cladhaire | unfortunatley.. he spelled the guild Silent Trancendence... and we had to disband.. so I got #1 after my boyfriend pointed out the spelling error :P |
| 23:29.58 | Shadowed | haha |
| 23:30.14 | AnduinLothar | owned |
| 23:30.31 | cladhaire | it was amusing.. he got ginvited.. and was like "Umm.. you know you spelled the name wrong.. right?" |
| 23:30.37 | Tem | anyway, my biggest reservation about leaving would be that I'm basically only unhappy with 3-4 members |
| 23:30.47 | Shadowed | Tem: Let me guess |
| 23:30.52 | cladhaire | Tem: Then i'd stay |
| 23:31.00 | Tain | I'd be so happy if people said, "owned." |
| 23:31.03 | Shadowed | One priest show sucks, One stupid DPS warrior, feral ( orpossibly balance ) druid |
| 23:31.10 | cladhaire | our guild is stable.. but when there's a shake up, they tend to be pretty big. |
| 23:31.11 | Tain | Every time I see, "pwn" I want to claw my eyes ou. |
| 23:31.12 | Shadowed | err on priest sucks* |
| 23:31.16 | cladhaire | Tain: pwned. |
| 23:31.25 | cladhaire | Tain: pronounced "pooned".. i dont care what anyone else says. |
| 23:31.26 | Tem | Shadowed, one holydpslawl priest |
| 23:31.37 | cladhaire | lolsmite |
| 23:31.38 | Tem | Shadowed, one self-righteous warrior |
| 23:31.48 | Tem | Shadowed, one balance druid |
| 23:31.50 | Tain | I counter that people get ponied. |
| 23:31.54 | Shadowed | i'm not sure whats more sad |
| 23:31.58 | Tem | Shadowed, one asshole hunter |
| 23:32.05 | Shadowed | the fact that i was right, or the fact that those kind of people exist |
| 23:32.05 | Tem | (oh, and the best part) |
| 23:32.09 | Tem | (they're all fucking officers) |
| 23:32.19 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 23:32.23 | cladhaire | ate least you're an officer too |
| 23:32.25 | Shadowed | how do you like the rest of the members? |
| 23:32.33 | Kirov | Tem - that's one of the big reasons I left my last guild. |
| 23:32.49 | Tem | I'm an officer too, but none of them respect my opinion |
| 23:32.52 | Kirov | Tem - Basically all of the officers were power hungry and loot whores. |
| 23:32.58 | Cide | hmm |
| 23:33.07 | gnorlish | oh man, i'm a power-hungry loot whore officer |
| 23:33.20 | Cide | I wonder if UnitPowerType for raid members isn't valid at the first R_R_U in a raid |
| 23:33.29 | Tain | I'm not an officer but I don't respect the officers. |
| 23:33.33 | Shadowed | my last guild i left due to officers/guild leader conflicts. personally, if they make you unhappy to deal with then i wouldn't stay |
| 23:33.45 | Shadowed | but it's hard if you have friends on the server that you don't want to leave |
| 23:34.01 | Tain | In fact I am a little surprised I didn't get kicked last night for pointing out the absurdity of them complaining about people's dps on failed attempts. You know.. when people are dead and can't dps? |
| 23:34.13 | Tain | They're trotting out sw_stats and damage meters |
| 23:34.19 | Kirov | The GM of my old guild was interested in only one thing, progression. He wasn't much of a "people" person, so when it came to interpersonal issues that came up from the guild's officers being dicks he basically just said, "Deal with it." ... so half the main raid team /gquit |
| 23:34.27 | Shadowed | Tain rofl |
| 23:34.38 | gnorlish | dps on attempts on what |
| 23:34.46 | Tain | Saying, "Look you rogues got outdamaged! Pick it up!" And after them yelling about it three times I pointed out the absurdity of it. |
| 23:34.47 | AnduinLothar | sad tain |
| 23:34.51 | Tain | And was told to, "keep it to myself." |
| 23:35.02 | Tain | Which almost caused me to use my mic on Ventrilo for the first time, ever. |
| 23:35.04 | Kirov | Tain - lol |
| 23:35.07 | AnduinLothar | I only use DM to brag that i can outheal the priests |
| 23:35.11 | Shadowed | old guild had a hunter who was being out damaged by a paladin in AQ40 |
| 23:35.17 | Shadowed | not a learning night, just a regular farming night |
| 23:35.30 | Shadowed | ( we have no dps paladins btw ) |
| 23:35.37 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 23:35.39 | Shadowed | we = they |
| 23:35.41 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: You're one of those ridiculous heal-a-dins aren't you. you think you pwn healing face? =) |
| 23:35.45 | Tain | Technically no one has DPS paladins. |
| 23:35.46 | AnduinLothar | we have liek 3 pallies who love to dps |
| 23:35.51 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: bring it flash of light boy :P |
| 23:35.56 | cladhaire | Last night we're doing skeram |
| 23:35.58 | AnduinLothar | :D I do it all |
| 23:36.00 | Shadowed | Well, when I say that I mean we don't have any paladins that were trying to do DPS at the time |
| 23:36.01 | cladhaire | and they wanted to have mind control dummies |
| 23:36.03 | Kirov | One night the #1 and #2 damage was me, who had more than 200% of the next guy .. who'd been afk for half an hour. |
| 23:36.08 | AnduinLothar | i have tanking gear and dps and healing gear |
| 23:36.12 | cladhaire | so they told the paladins to take off their weapons.. cause they'd do the least amount of damage =) |
| 23:36.33 | cladhaire | they tried that with the rogues, and i punched someone to death (We didn't have mages to sheep us) =) |
| 23:36.39 | Shadowed | i've tried to get my warrior MC'ed on skeram, but i always have a 1h/shield out at the time :( |
| 23:36.48 | Tain | That's one thing I miss about EQ. |
| 23:36.52 | AnduinLothar | it's true, if you're mind controled and pally's do shit for damage |
| 23:36.52 | cladhaire | 3x everything.. is.. sick |
| 23:37.00 | Tain | When someone got "charmed" people killed them. |
| 23:37.05 | AnduinLothar | you have to know what you're doing |
| 23:37.05 | Tain | In WoW they get sheeped |
| 23:37.10 | gnorlish | any caster who gets MC'ed is dangerous, even pallys |
| 23:37.13 | AnduinLothar | and combo the seals |
| 23:37.22 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: It worked well, they were there to heal the rogues, and didn't need weapons to do so =) |
| 23:37.33 | Kirov | Paladins played by the computer = dumb |
| 23:37.36 | cladhaire | brb laundry |
| 23:37.38 | AnduinLothar | cept my weapon have like 60 +healing |
| 23:37.41 | Shadowed | then there was the "blow up the officer" game during geddon |
| 23:37.46 | Kirov | I love watching the computer try to play a hunter too |
| 23:37.52 | Kirov | Pop rapid shot then volley |
| 23:38.02 | AnduinLothar | and in healing gear my 1h does zero damage anyway |
| 23:38.09 | AnduinLothar | it's liek 41dps |
| 23:38.22 | Tain | I've never gotten the Geddon bomb. And it's really for the best. |
| 23:38.29 | Tain | I don't know that I could stop myself from doing it. |
| 23:38.37 | AnduinLothar | lol geddon was hillarious last night |
| 23:38.43 | AnduinLothar | i got hit by 8 bombs! |
| 23:38.48 | Tain | haha |
| 23:38.52 | AnduinLothar | 8 people, couldn't walk or run away |
| 23:38.59 | Shadowed | lucky |
| 23:39.03 | AnduinLothar | and i somehow was near all of them |
| 23:39.07 | Tain | We had a miserable night of BWL. wiped to RG 3 times, then Firemaw 3 |
| 23:39.09 | Kirov | hehe |
| 23:39.22 | AnduinLothar | still downed him, but i went to liek 10 hp every time |
| 23:39.33 | Kirov | We downed firemaw last night after ShadowFlame bugged and killed the MT and about a third of the raid (including all but 2 warriors) |
| 23:39.46 | Kirov | The last of which died with 2% left |
| 23:39.47 | Shadowed | are you sure you don't mean "MT forgot to put cloak on and blamed a bug{"? :p |
| 23:39.58 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 23:39.59 | Kirov | Sorry, Flamegor |
| 23:40.09 | Shadowed | i stand by what i said |
| 23:40.12 | Kirov | Shadowed - they had the cloak |
| 23:40.18 | Shadowed | he's lying! |
| 23:40.24 | Kirov | It'll sometimes eat through it. |
| 23:40.34 | Tain | Oh Flamegore, Firemaw... I never remember which is which |
| 23:40.47 | Shadowed | Firemaw is the one with the stupid fire DOt, flamegor is the one with the stupid AE |
| 23:40.51 | Shadowed | ebonroc is the loot pinata |
| 23:40.52 | Kirov | Flamegor is the one right after brood, firemaw is the frenzy one after ebonroc |
| 23:40.54 | Tain | We at least finished up through Ebonroc and hitting Chromag in about 20 minutes. |
| 23:41.10 | AnduinLothar | one of these days they're gonan let me tank... I can do 5mans just fine, and i've tanked drak before... need to get mroe deathbone |
| 23:41.27 | Tain | We can do up to Chromag in one night, we were miserable last night. Haven't downed Nef yet though. |
| 23:41.27 | Kirov | We actually killed Flamegor with a single priest left standing with 50 health |
| 23:41.32 | Shadowed | you're not going to be able to tank :p |
| 23:41.44 | AnduinLothar | they let me offtank on domo and core hound packs |
| 23:41.46 | Shadowed | you'd go OOM long before the boss would die and would lose aggro |
| 23:41.56 | cladhaire | i'm going to play DoTA. I can't code after that |
| 23:42.07 | Tain | hah |
| 23:42.19 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: our pallies tank |
| 23:42.27 | cladhaire | and our officer pally has our first thunderfury |
| 23:42.28 | AnduinLothar | off tanking is pretty easy, you just need initial agro and then out agro your healer |
| 23:42.33 | Tain | Our "leaders" don't know how to use Paladins. |
| 23:42.43 | Tain | They don't let them do anthing but heal. |
| 23:42.50 | Tain | And we have vocal people. |
| 23:42.56 | Shadowed | had a rogue try to tank third lizzard type boss in MC and onyxia, and then a hunter for lizzard boss |
| 23:42.57 | zenzelezz | sure they do, they let you rez too |
| 23:42.58 | AnduinLothar | we have a pally with orange hammer, one of 3 that likes to dps |
| 23:42.58 | Tain | It's not like they sit back and be quiet. |
| 23:43.05 | Kirov | #wowace crew are a lively bunch, aren't they |
| 23:43.14 | AnduinLothar | and there's 2 of us who like tanking |
| 23:43.16 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: Its nice for the tfury debuff |
| 23:43.20 | AnduinLothar | yeah |
| 23:43.27 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: SoC gives haste right? |
| 23:43.35 | AnduinLothar | crusader, yes |
| 23:43.37 | Shadowed | SoC gave holy damage i thought |
| 23:43.39 | cladhaire | (I haven't finished my pally past level 12 yes =/) |
| 23:43.42 | AnduinLothar | command is damage |
| 23:43.47 | cladhaire | so SoTC |
| 23:43.49 | cladhaire | not SoC |
| 23:43.50 | cladhaire | =) |
| 23:43.56 | Shadowed | i don't play a paladin :p |
| 23:43.59 | Shadowed | i prefer druids! |
| 23:43.59 | cladhaire | i'll learn.. i have to finish my pally and shaman |
| 23:44.04 | cladhaire | then i have all four healers *cheer* |
| 23:44.23 | AnduinLothar | i enjoy the options, and i cant stand the idea of lvlign a warrior |
| 23:44.36 | AnduinLothar | tho i'd liek to play one at 60 |
| 23:44.44 | Shadowed | warrior was easier then leveling a rogue to 60 |
| 23:44.47 | AnduinLothar | i've spent too much time getting gear on my pally to change now |
| 23:45.00 | AnduinLothar | well leveling+farming for gear |
| 23:45.08 | Shadowed | Priest was fun because if you used your mana right you could just grind for 30-45 minutes without downtime |
| 23:45.11 | Tain | Warrior is easier to level in a group. Ther'es no comparison to levelling solo as a rogue. |
| 23:45.21 | Shadowed | i solo'ed the entire time for my warrior |
| 23:45.35 | cladhaire | solo rogue/druid was fun |
| 23:45.41 | AnduinLothar | when i leveled there was no one more than 10 lvls above me |
| 23:45.46 | Tain | There really isn't a comparison. Warrior is easy. Rogue is absurd. |
| 23:45.50 | cladhaire | solo priest sucked. |
| 23:46.01 | Shadowed | i found it the other way around. warrior was easy and rogue was hard |
| 23:46.03 | Corrodias | indeed, i've heard from my realmmates that warriors are quick to level |
| 23:46.09 | Tain | Probably nothing easier than Hunters though. |
| 23:46.10 | cladhaire | Shadowed: ROgue was hard? |
| 23:46.18 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 23:46.19 | Corrodias | my druid is going very slowly, but that may just be because i suck |
| 23:46.28 | Kirov | Druids are slow |
| 23:46.31 | Shadowed | got a Druid to 20, and just couldn't stand them anymore, was too slow |
| 23:46.36 | Kirov | They're just very self siffiecent |
| 23:46.36 | cladhaire | my hunter was boring |
| 23:46.39 | AnduinLothar | besides, saying i tank with a pally is much more impressive than saying i'm a warrior tank |
| 23:46.42 | cladhaire | druid after the talent revamp are nice |
| 23:46.44 | Tain | Hunter is boring (to me.) |
| 23:46.52 | Tain | But so easy. |
| 23:46.52 | Shadowed | Hunters were absurdly easy to level |
| 23:46.54 | Corrodias | hunter is -annoying- >:/ |
| 23:46.56 | Rallion | I found 40-60 as a shadow priest ridiculously fast, solo or grouped |
| 23:47.00 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 23:47.06 | AnduinLothar | oh btw clad, I'm not even full holy spec and i outheal priests :) |
| 23:47.12 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 23:47.17 | Corrodias | my pet does his best to hold aggro, but i still easily draw it away if i attack hard |
| 23:47.18 | cladhaire | im crazy on my druid/priest |
| 23:47.24 | Shadowed | 1-40 was easy, but nothing amazing, once you get shadow form it speeds up. this was before the priest review thought |
| 23:47.32 | Corrodias | i usually have to feign death once per fight just because my pet can't hold aggro worth beans |
| 23:47.39 | Kirov | I leveled with a paladin, then a warlock. |
| 23:47.43 | cladhaire | really enjoy healing |
| 23:47.45 | Corrodias | i shouldn't say usually. i hold myself back so it's just "sometimes". |
| 23:47.45 | AnduinLothar | sometimes i wish i had the 25pt 5% spell crit, but i dont wanna give up ret, cause then i cant dps at all |
| 23:47.47 | Shadowed | Rogue -> Priest -> Warrior here |
| 23:48.02 | Kirov | paladin tanked, warlock feared ... pet ran around aimlessly trying to hit th emob |
| 23:48.10 | AnduinLothar | if i get enough tank gear i'll go prot for a while and have some fun |
| 23:48.25 | AnduinLothar | still only at like 360def |
| 23:48.29 | Corrodias | can someone give me tips on how to make my pet hold aggro whiel i'm hitting something with more than just slow white damage? :P |
| 23:48.37 | cladhaire | Corrodias: What kind of pet? |
| 23:48.51 | Corrodias | any. i am flexible and ready to replace what i have. |
| 23:48.52 | Shadowed | kill the mob faster :p |
| 23:48.53 | Rallion | Get a bear. |
| 23:48.54 | cladhaire | Corrodias: If they have claw and bite.. yu have to only choose one, they don't get focus fast enough to handle it. |
| 23:48.56 | cladhaire | get a bear |
| 23:48.59 | cladhaire | really =) |
| 23:49.00 | Corrodias | at the moment, i have a bear and a spider |
| 23:49.04 | Shadowed | cat > all |
| 23:49.06 | Corrodias | however, it's not like their growl is more effective |
| 23:49.16 | cladhaire | but they cause more threat |
| 23:49.23 | AnduinLothar | are the zg snakes any good? |
| 23:49.24 | Corrodias | where do you get that idea? :o |
| 23:49.36 | cladhaire | cause they hold aggro better =) |
| 23:50.02 | Corrodias | i thought i had researched pets thoroughly, but i've never heard anything about a bear having increased threat |
| 23:50.06 | Rallion | I ran ZF with a bear tank once |
| 23:50.14 | cladhaire | hehe i wonder if they do |
| 23:50.16 | Rallion | that was difficult. |
| 23:50.24 | Shadowed | in the end i've always heard that they are basically the same. with the only difference being the ability they get |
| 23:50.36 | Shadowed | but the abilities aren't huge for tanking except a turtle |
| 23:50.59 | Corrodias | i wanted to use a spider, but it's depressing to watch him slowly crawl up to an enemy, since he can't get Dash |
| 23:51.07 | Shadowed | lol |
| 23:51.11 | Corrodias | i don't know why they obviously favored some pets like that |
| 23:51.25 | cladhaire | i liked my boar |
| 23:51.28 | cladhaire | but the wolf holds aggro better |
| 23:51.45 | AnduinLothar | that's the only thing i'd really like as a pally, some sort of dash... bet at least we can catch guys running with HoW |
| 23:51.45 | Corrodias | i can't imagine why :/ unless doing more damage makes him keep attention a little better |
| 23:52.01 | Corrodias | AL: well, there are a couple of items you can use to temporarily increase your speed... |
| 23:52.03 | cladhaire | i can't play a druid withotu feral charge |
| 23:52.13 | AnduinLothar | on demand? |
| 23:52.18 | AnduinLothar | other than a speed pot? |
| 23:52.25 | Tain | Nifty Stopwatch! |
| 23:52.30 | Shadowed | tain beat me to it |
| 23:52.31 | AnduinLothar | i know there's a crappy speed sword |
| 23:52.34 | Corrodias | no, one's a trinket and one's a reusable item, which i believe means they both have 30 minutes cooldowns |
| 23:52.36 | AnduinLothar | ah, i'm not eng |
| 23:52.42 | Shadowed | it's not an eng item |
| 23:52.45 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 23:52.46 | Shadowed | some level 40 quest in badlands |
| 23:52.48 | Tain | Stopwatch is a quest reward. |
| 23:52.48 | Corrodias | nifty stopwatch is a quest reward |
| 23:52.55 | AnduinLothar | hmm |
| 23:53.06 | Rallion | you need a gryo-whatsit and a frost oil to get it |
| 23:53.10 | Tain | I still use it. |
| 23:53.14 | AnduinLothar | why have i not heard of it.. |
| 23:53.21 | Corrodias | there's another item, too, from The Hand, the Star, and the Heart's quest line, that isn't a trinket, but it damages you, which makes it tough to use at lower levels |
| 23:53.44 | Tain | It's worth going Engineer to get rocket boots too. |
| 23:54.17 | AnduinLothar | i dunno i'm really far in BS and dont really wanna drop mining |
| 23:54.17 | AnduinLothar | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=38389 |
| 23:54.17 | Corrodias | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=2820 |
| 23:54.41 | Shadowed | anyway! raid, be back later |
| 23:54.53 | Corrodias | RAAAAID?! kills bugs dead |
| 23:54.57 | AnduinLothar | alla wont load |
| 23:55.01 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 23:55.05 | AnduinLothar | crappy internet here |
| 23:55.21 | Corrodias | sometimes i have to "stop" and then reload to make a page appear... weirdness |
| 23:55.35 | Corrodias | i'm finding the other item, now |
| 23:55.50 | Shadowed | Corrodias: more like having to kill 6 bosses in naxx night |
| 23:55.51 | Corrodias | it seems allakhazam is still a little slow during busy hours |
| 23:55.57 | zenzelezz | Corrodias: with web at all or just Allakhazam? |
| 23:56.02 | Corrodias | just alla |
| 23:56.07 | zenzelezz | I have the same issue |
| 23:56.26 | zenzelezz | I've always assumed it's some ad server or something, but as you say, reloading tends to work |
| 23:56.29 | Corrodias | here's the other item i was thinking of: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=4984 |
| 23:56.37 | AnduinLothar | nifty stopwatch might be as useful for a pally as the boomerang |
| 23:57.04 | Corrodias | the skull of impending doom will damage you, potentially quite a lot, but it's another option if you really need speed or else |
| 23:57.39 | Corrodias | the most it can drain is 2500 health, over 10 seconds |
| 23:57.44 | AnduinLothar | 100-500 damage is not much, it's the mana that hurts |
| 23:57.54 | AnduinLothar | oh it's per sec? |
| 23:58.00 | AnduinLothar | 2sec |
| 23:58.00 | Corrodias | heheh |
| 23:58.02 | AnduinLothar | bleh |
| 23:58.06 | Corrodias | there is that too. better cast your bubble and heal and then book it |
| 23:58.26 | AnduinLothar | prolly use it while bubled |
| 23:58.28 | Corrodias | it's not something you'd want to use often, but there could be a case where it's still better than not using it |
| 23:58.39 | AnduinLothar | call it the bubble charge |
| 23:58.45 | Corrodias | hah |
| 23:58.57 | Corrodias | by the way, what is this bubble, anyway? i'm not very familiar with paladins, but i hear about it a lot |
| 23:59.04 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 23:59.20 | AnduinLothar | full immunity for 12 sec, slower attack speed |
| 23:59.31 | AnduinLothar | 5min cooldown |
| 23:59.43 | Corrodias | "This thing is BADASS. and it only has a 5 min cooldown compared to the 30min on the trinket and 60min on the boots." |
| 23:59.54 | Corrodias | and "2. You can right click the buff icon (as usual) to remove the speed and damage at any time." |