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00:03.00CorrodiasIN THE CLOCKWORK LOL
00:03.30Gngskspecial mode!
00:03.58Kirkburnit's for special people
00:09.22CorrodiasHoTW... damn, i don't remember what that is
00:09.33JoshBorkeHide of the Wild
00:09.41JoshBorke+42 heal back thingie
00:09.45JoshBorkecape is the word
00:10.05Corrodiasthat doesn't seem to be how Cairenn used the acronym
00:10.09Corrodiasit sounded more like a talent
00:10.31Gngskheart of the wild
00:10.33Gngskisn't it a talent?
00:10.40JoshBorkei thought it was a plant?
00:10.45Gngskincreased mana and health or something in different forms
00:10.47Corrodiasi'm loading a talent calculator
00:11.13Corrodiasshe said you absolutely need it to be viable in PvE
00:11.24AnduinLotharso what should i call a versioning lib for telepathy...  Telepathy:Versions ?
00:11.40JoshBorkeMorseCode
00:11.47AnduinLotharO.o
00:11.53Gngsk20% increased mana/health/strength in corresponding forms
00:11.56Corrodiasthat's an odd thing to say, considering you cannot get swiftmend if you get HotW
00:12.24JoshBorkei don't believe Cairenn has hit 60
00:12.33AnduinLotharam i allowed to put a ":" in an adodn name?
00:12.40Corrodiasit sure would kick ass for a cat/bear druid
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00:12.44cladhaireAnduinLothar: I dont think so =/
00:12.58Corrodiasbut it just doesn't seem viable for a healer
00:13.37AnduinLotharmmm, os x wont let me put : ina  folde rname, heh
00:13.43JoshBorkeyou don't need swiftmend like you didn't need innervate before
00:13.54AnduinLothar<PROTECTED>
00:13.54ckknightno, AnduinLothar
00:14.11ckknightdashes are good
00:14.27AnduinLotharactually... i cant put a - in a table name can i
00:14.32AnduinLothargrr
00:14.36ckknightyou can if you believe you can!
00:14.41ckknightI know I can.
00:14.47AnduinLotharok.. so i need a good name
00:15.06AnduinLotharfor a mini lib that tracks addon versions of players in comm channels
00:15.07ckknight_G["Telepathy-Versions"] = {}
00:15.13ckknight;-)
00:15.41AnduinLotharwell if it deps telepathy i can always just do Telepathy:Versions ;)
00:15.53Corrodiasmaybe i should consider avoiding swiftmend... i certainly haven't needed it so far
00:16.06AnduinLotharswiftmend is uber just for it's 15s cooldown
00:16.13KirkburnSuggest me a cool yet uncommon class/race combo ... I'm gonna level one to 5 now, I'm bored :P
00:16.23ckknightAnduinLothar, Telepathy.Versions
00:16.30AnduinLotharfemale dwarve hunter
00:16.31Corrodiasuncommon? troll warrior.
00:16.37ckknightKirkburn, Female Dwarf Rogue
00:16.38Corrodiasi think i've only ever seen one
00:16.48JoshBorkeKirkburn: gnomepaladin
00:17.06Corrodiasnoooo, alliance is jerks!
00:17.19KirkburnHmm troll warrior sounds interesting - would've done the rogue, but I only just did that :P
00:17.38ckknightCorrodias, okay...
00:17.46ckknightTauren Rogue
00:17.55Corrodiasyes, but that's not possible
00:17.59ckknight;-)
00:18.08Corrodiasi need to fire up my wow model viewer and figure out what some common higher level class-related sets are. then i can see what classes look best in which roles.
00:18.11ckknightuncommon on Horde... hrm
00:18.28KirkburnYou can do that online surely Corrodias
00:18.35AnduinLotharjust go to the CensusPlus site and look it up
00:18.40Corrodiasi see undead warlocks, warriors, mages, and rogues, not so many priests.
00:18.58ckknightUD has quite a few priests
00:19.18Corrodiastauren are shamen, druids, warriors, hunters
00:19.24ckknightShamans
00:19.34AnduinLothartroll shaman
00:19.44ckknightTroll Shaman are nice in PvP
00:19.57Corrodiasnice? what's their advantage?
00:19.58ckknightwith beserk, you can get the wolf off pretty damn quick
00:20.06ckknightberserk*
00:20.08Corrodiastroll shaman i have seen occasionally, and they look pretty nifty
00:20.20Corrodiasalthough i think taurens were just built for it
00:20.25AnduinLothartauren druid
00:20.34Corrodiasthere aren't many other choices for druid ;P
00:21.28KirkburnFemale troll warrior it is. Speedy levelling time :P
00:21.31Corrodiasorcs are common for all their available classes
00:21.43KirkburnCommon as muck :P
00:25.33Corrodiasundead warriors seem to be more common than before, possibly because it's the smallest race available and you actually have a chance of seeing what you're tanking around your own character
00:25.36Corrodiasnot like a bear :(
00:25.47JoshBorkeit is not the smallest race!
00:25.49JoshBorkegnome warrior!
00:25.50Corrodiasin any tight space, you have a huge bear ass in your screen all the time
00:25.57Corrodiassmallest available to horde, sorry
00:26.04KirkburnI might doa  gnome warrior after this
00:26.19JoshBorkewe have no gnome warriors in my guild :-(
00:26.27JoshBorkethey are all dwarfs or human
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00:31.09Kirkburn1*sigh*
00:31.20Kirkburn1ns ghost kirkburn
00:41.54Corrodiasso i need to plan out my future classes. i wonder if trolls look better as mages or priests and how they will compare to blood elves
00:42.12Corrodiasby the way, just spent a couple of minutes in org, and there were, once again, 0 troll warriors
00:42.32Kirkburnheh
00:47.04Corrodiasso i really don't know HOW they look.
00:49.56JoshBorkehave you used the blizzard thing?
00:56.39Corrodiasblizzard thing?
00:56.54Corrodiasi'd love a convenient way of seeing how a character will look, if you have one
01:00.08JoshBorkeCorrodias: it only shows how they look in their respective sets (full)
01:01.33Corrodiaswell, that's better than nothing
01:03.42Corrodiascan i get a URL?
01:05.34KirkburnJust look on the official sites for the armor sets page
01:06.24Corrodiasarmor sets, armor sets..
01:07.04Corrodiaspefect, thanks
01:07.58KirkburnAlmost finished the Valley of Trials =)
01:14.49Corrodiasbelieve it or not, george isn't at home
01:15.17KirkburnI'm confused
01:15.33Corrodiasit's a line from seinfeld
01:15.51KirkburnOh right ... my name is George btw :P
01:16.20Corrodiasgeorge sings in his answering machine's greeting, to some old show tune, i believe: believe it or not, george isn't a home. please leave a message at the beep.
01:16.33Corrodiasetc etc
01:17.54KirkburnWell that explains it :P
01:18.23Corrodiasi was hoping my explanation would explain
01:18.34KirkburnStrange that
01:19.20Corrodiashey, i like that druid dreamwalker set
01:19.37Corrodiasit's a tier 3 raid set and it looks good. fancy that!
01:19.51KirkburnCrazy!
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01:22.49KirkburnMira Mira on the wall, who is the fairest of them all?
01:23.00MiravlixIs CreateFrame working for tooltips now?
01:23.10AnduinLotharyes
01:23.22AnduinLotharsee IsCasting for example
01:24.10cladhairelocal tooltip = CreateFrame("GameTooltip", "SomeTooltipName", nil, "GameTooltipTemplate")
01:24.18Corrodiasi wish they had blood elves in this armor viewer already :(
01:24.53MiravlixCodes been in my libraries for a while just uncommented
01:24.57AnduinLothartooltip:SetOwner(tooltip, "ANCHOR_NONE");
01:26.55Corrodiasfemale orc makes a decent rogue...
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01:27.15Corrodiasbut i think undead have that contest wrapped up
01:28.45KirkburnWhy do you not like the alliance? :)
01:29.13Corrodiaswell, besides the fact that alliance is jerks, i already play a couple of horde characters and don't want to split my resources, at least not right now
01:29.22JoshBorkehey!
01:29.24JoshBorkei'm not a jerk!
01:29.28AnduinLothari am
01:30.33AnduinLotharwhat's the new UnitInParty('player') syntax?
01:31.31KirkburnTime for a gnome warlock
01:32.17KirkburnKerri be her name, Kerri be her game.
01:32.42KirkburnAlliance ftw
01:33.50KirkburnIt so totally it's 3am in Coldridge Valley
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01:33.57Kirkburns/it's/isn't/
01:34.07KirkburnIt's liek bright sunshine
01:41.41Corrodiasi think female orc might be the best race/gender suited for warrior, actually
01:41.44Corrodiasmebbe
01:43.51JoshBorkeMC is so much fun
01:46.17JoshBorkeas in mind control :-D
01:47.10Corrodiasoh
01:50.07Corrodiasand now, it's time to try to relearn how to play my hunter
01:50.26Corrodiaswhile my druid recovers a little rest xp
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01:58.08Corrodiasnow what i REALLY want is a goblin character or two.
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02:04.51Kirkburn1gah
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03:34.45GeoDaMancerAlright, I know the CastSpellByName("Speel Rank #") will only work when the mouse is clicked, but can you make it so that it's a custom button that's clicked to cast the spell?
03:44.24AnduinLotharOnClick
03:45.00GeoDaMancerAlright, I just wanted to make sure that it could be done.
03:59.25Cairennwhoever that person is, they are rather odd
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03:59.36GeoDaMancerAll too true.
04:00.30GeoDaMancerThis is sort of a stupid question, but can a priest heal another person's pet? *Really can't remember.*
04:00.37AnduinLotharyes
04:00.46GeoDaMancerAlright. *Wipes his brow.*
04:24.16Shadowedi hope so :p
04:24.26Shadoweddamn
04:24.41GeoDaMancerYes, yes you should/
04:24.44Shadowed:(
04:25.04GeoDaMancerHeheheh, sorry. I don't deal with pets/minions too much. I don't like them.
04:25.17Shadowedgood answer
04:30.17GeoDaMancerI tried to play a warlock once, and wanted to strangle the little demon five minutes after getting him.
04:30.51AnduinLotharcide, you around?
04:33.44GeoDaMancerDo any of you guys work with cosmos by chance?
04:33.53AnduinLotharlol
04:33.59GeoDaMancerHahah! That's great.
04:34.08GeoDaMancerI love when that happens, 'cause you get your answer right away.
04:37.21ShadowedOnly that AL jerk
04:37.23Shadowedhate him :(
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04:38.48AnduinLotharlove you too shadowed
04:39.12Shadowedhate you too!
04:52.14AnduinLotharoh god that is ugly
04:52.54AnduinLotharso ugly i still dotn know what it does..
04:53.28AnduinLotharonupdate timer every 5 sec until CT_RA_Channel is true so it can send off the version # after the variable loads..
04:54.02AnduinLotharcide must have smelled the inquizition coming
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05:10.06GeoDaMancerHuh?
05:10.39tvcouchdisconnect
05:11.24GeoDaMancerInquisition?
05:29.55Shadowedoh heh
05:30.02Shadowedthats why scores we're broken
05:42.02zespri_workthere is no similar construct in lua is it: val = (condition == true) ? "yes" : "no"
05:42.08zespri_workis there?
05:42.21GeoDaMancerI don't think I've seen one.
05:42.33zespri_workyou have to use 'if' then
05:42.53GeoDaMancerYe-up.
05:42.53AnduinLotharval = (condition == true and "yes" or "no"
05:42.55AnduinLothar)
05:43.12GeoDaMancerWait, yeah. -_- I don't know Lua well enough do not listen to me.
05:47.53zespri_workright
05:47.55zespri_work'and' returns its first argument if this value is false or nil; otherwise, and returns its second argument.
05:47.56zespri_work'or' returns its first argument if this value is different from nil and false; otherwise, or returns its second argument.
05:47.57zespri_workthanks
05:49.20zespri_workbut I wouldn't use it in code because it makes it difficult to read
05:49.43AnduinLotharnight cair
05:49.50Cairenn|sleepnight guys
05:50.40zespri_worknight cair
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08:42.01AnduinLotharmikk, you around?
08:53.54AnduinLotharnot even int he channel, how useless
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10:11.19MiravlixErk, nasty bug, one of my addons creates an error after logout
10:11.31MiravlixI never get to see the error. :/
10:11.57zenzelezzouch, sounds hard to debug something like that :-|
10:12.44MiravlixTip: Bring your firends to azeroth, but don't forget to take them outside azeroth as well.
10:12.55MiravlixGuess Blizzard is worried about karma
10:15.28AnduinLotharthere's a couple liek that
10:16.04MiravlixWell, I know what addons does stuff due to logout
10:16.20MiravlixIt's gotta be one of the ones overloading exit to print time
10:16.53MiravlixCharacterViewer
10:17.09MiravlixMy all chars played time addon still seems to work
10:44.29phyberMiravlix: use BugSack, it should save the error and you can check it out in the bugsack saved vars.
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13:25.42Legorolgood afternoon folks
13:25.50LegorolSurprising news: I hit 60!
13:26.13LegorolHappened couple days ago..
13:26.20LegorolI expected fireworks but nothing happened :D
13:26.42LegorolI also went to my first raid yesterday, ZG, was absolutely awesome..
13:26.50LegorolI have a technical question about CTRA BossMods:
13:27.07Legorolon Hakkar, the timer seems to pick up only after the first time Hakkar does his life drain thingy
13:27.23LegorolIs there a way to kick-start the timer at the beginning of the fight, so that it warns about the first life drain too?
13:27.40[Ammo]Legorol: try out BigWigs
13:27.55[Ammo]it does what you want :)
13:30.58Legorolis there no way to do it within BossMods?
13:31.06Legorole.g. by calling the function from a script that initiates the timer..
13:31.27EndLegorol: you hit 60???
13:31.29Endwtf?
13:31.41Endjk gratz
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13:32.54LegorolEnd: yeah i couldn't beleive it either
13:32.57Legoroli guess it was inevitable..
13:33.09Legorolno matter what i did, i couldn't stop the inflow of XP
13:34.46Endguess I need to find someone else as an example as someone who has played for a while but doesn't have a level 60 character
13:35.32End:P
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13:43.38LegorolEnd: for me the most exciting thing in the game is seeing fresh content
13:43.54s|loupomg cairenn lost the last 'n', look out and search for it
13:43.54Legorolonce i finished all instances i had no choice but to get to 60, if i wanted to see the content in the raid dungeons :)
13:44.00Legorolwow
13:44.10KirkburnI really need the expansion to get me back in WoW ... I can't put the time in for raiding
13:44.34s|loup*puh* gladly someone founds it
13:48.42Cairennheh, mistype when I changed it, thanks for noticing s|loup
13:49.38s|loupoh no problem i thought the world will stop until you found your n :D
13:49.48Cairennrofl
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13:55.51Cairennso congrats on hitting 60 Lego
13:56.41KirkburnWhat's your highest atm, Cairenn?
13:57.03Cairennummm, still 52 I think
13:57.29KirkburnBtw, when the expansion is released the debuff limit will go from 16 to 40 :)
13:57.38KirkburnNot tooo far :P
13:58.05KirkburnYou only have to be 55 to start with Outland anyway
13:58.25Cairennyeah, 52
13:58.32Cairennbut I've got 2 that are 52 now
13:58.52Cairenna 46, 2 35's and a 10 :p
13:58.58Cairenn(on my main server)
13:59.01LegorolCairenn: thanks for your gratulations
13:59.11Legoroli went to my first raid in ZG yesterday, and I enjoyed it a lot!
13:59.12Cairenn:)
13:59.17Legorolmostly because of the new place and new bosses ;-)
13:59.21Cairennthat's cool :)
13:59.23Legoroland the scenery
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14:00.32Cairennafk a bit, back shortly
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14:44.36Cairennckknight_: you around per chance?
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15:38.33Kasoi wish there was some error message when files dont get loaded due to xml errors -_-
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16:13.08JoshBorkeanything exciting going on?
16:13.28JoshBorkeKaso: yea, that would be nice, i never think to look at FrameXML.log :-/
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16:38.45ckknighthey all
16:38.58Cairennhi ckknight
16:39.58ckknightwhat's up?
16:40.10JoshBorkeckknight, HI!
16:40.16JoshBorkeCairenn, Hi :-)
16:40.54zenzelezzshe only gets a lowercase i?
16:41.01Cairennbeen on all day JoshBorke
16:41.14JoshBorkeCairenn, hehe, first time all morning i've looked in the channel :-D
16:41.20JoshBorkesilly M$ and their crappy products
16:41.21ckknightCairenn, you pinged me?
16:41.29ckknightJoshBorke, you misspelled MS.
16:41.39Cairennckknight: hang on a sec
16:42.02Cairennseeing if I can get the error message again
16:42.15Cairennhere we go ...
16:43.19Cairennckknight: trying to choose a profile, get this: "Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua: 110: Ace00-2.0: Improper self passed to init.  You must do MyClass.super.prototype.init(self, ...)
16:43.30ckknighthrm
16:44.03Cairennhit okay, and fubar disappears
16:44.08Cairennhave to reload ui
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16:44.35Cairennusing 2.0 from WoWI
16:44.54ckknightyea, don't know what's causing that :-P
16:45.02ckknightcause I can't reproduce it
16:45.22JoshBorkeMikk, morning
16:45.47ckknightor at least I don't know how
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16:48.08Mikkafternoon =)
16:48.13ckknighthey Mikk
16:48.15Cairennhi Mikk
16:48.18ckknightmorning for me :-P
16:49.10Mikkand up early too  o.O
16:49.15Mikkor should i say ... late
16:49.50KirkburnI didn't get up until nearly 3pm :P
16:49.55ckknight6:50 AM is not late.
16:50.17Mikkdepends how long ago you woke up :-P
16:50.47ckknight20 minutes
16:50.53Mikkearly then ^^
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16:51.30Mikk(The alternative being that you were still up. In which case it was late.)
16:52.02ckknightI don't drink any caffeine
16:52.19MikkGood on ya. Don't start :-P
16:52.33KirkburnMikk, your opinion please :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Blood_Elves_Names
16:53.36MikkAeuhhh
16:53.47MikkMerge to main article & redirect imo
16:54.11MikkAt some later point, it'll just be a category i suppose
16:54.21KirkburnYeah
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17:00.35Cairennwow
17:00.39Cairennhi sancus
17:00.44sancushi
17:00.46Cairennltnw
17:00.48Cairenns*
17:00.51Gryphenheya
17:00.57sancusI'm on this network for other purposes so I thought I'd show up!
17:01.45KirkburnHacking it, are you? ;)
17:02.04sancus#cakephp
17:05.12sancusits a php development framework
17:05.14sancuswork-stuff
17:05.47Kirkburnlol, the 'cakeforge'
17:05.48zenzelezzand it's piece of cake to use?
17:06.04sancusdude that joke is so played out
17:06.15zenzelezzwhat do you expect with such a name?
17:06.22sancusI think thats the idea :)
17:07.12sancusIt is pretty awesome, though
17:07.54sancuswe are using it for the new firefox addons site
17:09.02KirkburnYou work on firefox?
17:09.19sancusthe web side, yeah
17:12.29Kirkburnzomg, I've joined the 2500 club!
17:12.49sancusthe what?
17:12.58Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:2500club
17:13.05Kirkburn~poke Mikk
17:13.07purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Mikk, pokes Mikk repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
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17:13.59sancuslolol
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17:47.53KirkburnAt least it took me more than 2 months to reach 2500 edits, unlike Mikk's 2 weeks :P
17:49.41Cairenn*snicker*
17:50.30KirkburnAny more news on whether the patch is stil coming 2moro?
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17:52.37Cairennhaven't heard anything to suggest it isn't
17:53.28KirkburnI noticed they're checking to see if anyone gettings problems with dual processors and 1.12, but it seems no-one's still got them, which is good
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17:53.50Kirkburn(in previous 1.12 builds, they had major problems)
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17:59.22Cairennhey Iriel
18:00.24zenzelezzthis is scary... first time in BWL and I get invited straight to the Nefarian fight
18:01.02IrielHey all.
18:01.55Kirovzenzelezz - One of the easiest fights in BWL imho
18:02.41zenzelezzdoesn't make it any less scary :-x
18:02.44zenzelezzand I don't have the cloak
18:02.59Enduh, oh, you're gonna get owned
18:03.07KirovSo, when nefarian lands, run in to the hallways and stand on the rubble in the back.
18:03.11zenzelezzthey know it, but still wanted me to come
18:03.15Enddoes that actually work?
18:03.19KirovYes
18:03.21Endcool
18:04.44Endwe haven't even gotten passed phase 1, but we've only tried with 4 or 5 warriors, 2 priests, 4 or 5 druids, and like 3 shaman so far, which doesn't sound like an optimal group
18:04.54End+ other classes
18:05.21EndI have no idea where all our priests have gone
18:06.13JoshBorkehello
18:06.53JoshBorkeno one wolud let them roll on damage gear
18:07.04KirovEnd - do the slow / rooting totems work on the draks?
18:08.08KirovJoshBorke - silly borke, damage gear is for warlocks.
18:08.18JoshBorke:-D
18:08.30JoshBorkethat's ok, i get yelled at for rolling on +heal gear (paladin)
18:08.44Kirovlol
18:08.57JoshBorkei currently have the most +heal in the guild :-D
18:09.21KirovMy girlfriend wears 8/8 trans and uses rank1 gheal most of the time.
18:09.38EndKirov: somewhat
18:10.08JoshBorkemmm, trans is nice
18:10.16JoshBorkei really like the dot that you get
18:10.42Endwe start having a lot of leakage about halfway through
18:10.46Endand then we all die
18:11.17Endwe had red on one side which wasn't leaking much at all
18:11.25Endbronze was leaking a lot though
18:11.46Endwe're still very -very- new to the fight
18:12.26KirovMy current guild has gotten to Nefarian once.
18:12.58KirovSeeing new people attempt that fight was like, "oh, yeah, this was difficult once"
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18:18.35Cairennnice try josh, but I'm not going to slap you, I know how much you enjoy it
18:18.53Kirovhehe
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18:19.19Bephiya :)
18:19.25Cairennhi
18:19.32Gryphenheya
18:19.54BepI'm planning on starting writing a system to assist my Guild with raiding etc ..
18:20.14Bepany knows of a good tutorial of how to export a bank ?
18:20.48KirovAnyone else get hungry for italian food just now, or wonder were "Buca di" is?
18:21.01Cairennnot until you said it, Kirov
18:21.04Cairennthanks a lot! :p
18:21.36KirovI guess I'm hungry.  >.<
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18:33.22st00pid_us3r_000i know!
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18:33.37st00pid_us3r_000now you'll never know who i am!
18:33.45Kirkburn1riiight
18:33.56st00pid_us3r_000sorry, i'm a little loopy
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18:34.07st00pid_us3r_000i've been on the phone with MS tech support for 7 hours today
18:34.23Kirkburn1Enough to make anyone mad
18:34.39st00pid_us3r_000you know Kirkburn
18:34.46st00pid_us3r_000if you register, you can kick your other nicks?
18:34.49Corrodiaswell, sadly, one of our guild members quit WoW yesterday or this morning, apparently for good.
18:35.10st00pid_us3r_000Corrodias, we had the same thing happen just the other day :-( one of our best hunters (probably best) deleted his toon
18:35.11Corrodiason the upside, he gave two of us a bunch of stuff for being online at 5am
18:36.21st00pid_us3r_000lol
18:36.41Corrodiasi must ask you this, now: why do you use the word "toon"?
18:37.04Cairenn"cartoon"
18:37.06JoshBorkeit's easier for me to type than char
18:37.31Cairennthat's where it comes from - you're playing "cartoon characters"
18:37.51Tupladso Josh
18:37.54Tupladwhat did they tell you ?
18:38.25CorrodiasCairenn: i was really hoping it was something a little less... saturday morning. :(
18:38.37Cairennhope away
18:38.49Cairennbut that's where it comes from
18:39.15JoshBorkewho tell me?
18:39.28JoshBorkewhats'it?
18:39.29Corrodiasthem
18:39.30JoshBorkei'm confused
18:40.43JoshBorke~nickometer Kirkburn
18:41.06JoshBorke~nickometer st00pid_us3r_000
18:45.06JoshBorke~nickometer $700p1d_|_|s3r_000
18:45.14JoshBorke~nickometer $700p1d_|_|$3|2_000
18:45.23JoshBorke~nickometer $700p1|)_|_|$3|2_000
18:45.30JoshBorkeSO CLOSE!
18:45.40JoshBorke~nickometer $700|*1|)_|_|$3|2_000
18:45.50zenzelezzdoes all of Naxxramas look/feel like Undercity?
18:46.15JoshBorkei wanted to get 99.99% at least :-(
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18:52.26KirkburnYay, I'm not lame :P
18:52.47Cairennthat's a mat ... nm'
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18:53.00Kirkburn:/
18:53.07JoshBorkeooooo
18:53.08JoshBorkeBURN!
18:53.19Kirov~nickometer J0shb0rk3
18:53.20JoshBorkeknees and toes!
18:53.25KirkburnBtw, I know you can kick your other nicks ... that's what I just did before you told me
18:53.47JoshBorke~nickometer K1r0v
18:54.38ShadowedAbusing purl again are we?
18:54.47Corrodiaspurl likes abuse
18:54.53purlACTION runs and gives abuse a big bear-hug.
18:54.53JoshBorke~tryme
18:54.54purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at joshborke and fires. BANG!
18:54.58Cairennthey are, but the channel is quiet enough I'm not making a fuss about it
18:55.28JoshBorke~bothug
18:55.41JoshBorke=(
18:55.50Kirovabusing purl is a grand past time
18:56.23Kirovhmm... we scared off Bep
18:56.42KirovI don't think anyone answered his question
18:56.59Kirovthough, he had a long and dangerous road ahead of him
18:57.06Cairennugh, missed it completely =/
18:57.28JoshBorkehe had a question?
18:57.43Kirovsorta
18:57.47Tuplad~nickometer 1337
18:57.50Kirovhe wanted to know how to export the bank.
18:57.54Tupladbah
18:58.05JoshBorkeTuplad, you rang?
18:58.15Tupladwhatchu mean ?
18:58.23JoshBorkeyou asked me a question
18:58.30JoshBorkeand i had no idea what the context was
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19:02.35TupladI did ?
19:02.59Tuplad<PROTECTED>
19:03.01Tupladst00pid_us3r_000i've been on the phone with MS tech support for 7 hours today
19:04.44JoshBorkeoh, they basically told us what we are doing is wrong
19:07.06Tupladwhat are 'we' doing ? :o
19:07.24Cairennwrong
19:07.33Kirkburnheh
19:07.34Cairenn;)
19:07.46Tuplad=_="
19:08.21zenzelezzI find it a bit... peculiar... when people say "LOL" on TS instead of laugh
19:08.51KirkburnIf it's not voice activated, you can't laugh sincerely
19:09.01KirkburnI suppose it's a replacement
19:09.11KirkburnI find it weird too
19:11.28TemGRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB
19:11.32TemGRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB
19:11.40JoshBorkeTuplad, using DFS (distributed file system?) to replicate about 400GB of data.
19:11.43Temthoughts?
19:11.52KirkburnIntruging
19:11.57JoshBorkebeen doing so for about 6 months now.  they posted an article saying it should be limited to 64GB about 2 months ago
19:12.12TemGRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB v
19:12.15KirkburnI feel you've certainly captured the metaphorical issues at hand
19:12.19Tuplad<PROTECTED>
19:12.41TupladJoshBorke: hmmm
19:12.41Temthat's what all the machines in this lab are saying
19:12.44KirkburnAre you approaching this from a purely philisophical standpoint, or should I apply this knowledge to the real world?
19:12.57JoshBorkeTem: fun :-D
19:13.08Cairennlol
19:13.11Temthe screen is perfectly split into a grid of GRUB GRUB
19:13.13TemGRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB
19:13.23JoshBorkewith a v at the end?
19:13.25Temno
19:13.29JoshBorkeoh
19:13.31Temthat was be screwing up
19:13.35Kirkburner, at the risk of sounding stupid ... why?
19:13.36JoshBorkewell that would have been more entertaining
19:13.36Tems/be/me/
19:13.39KaeltenTem: BURG?
19:13.54Temno, Grub screwed up
19:14.03JoshBorkesounds like it
19:14.16Temmy guess is we'll have to reimage these machines
19:14.24Kirkburnhaha
19:14.29Temoh well
19:14.34Temit was kind of a small image
19:14.40Temonly took 30 minutes
19:14.47IrielTem: Hm, did they initially work and now dont?
19:14.53Temnot really sure
19:14.54IrielTem: Or is this their first attempt with this image?
19:14.56TemI didn't build the image
19:16.06IrielTem: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
19:16.08IrielSee number 7
19:17.05Temthanks
19:29.56EndI disagree, it's all about the MAGGOT MAGGOT MAGGOT MAGGOT MAGGOT MAGGOT ...
19:33.26Tuplad:o
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19:45.12TemWall of GRUB crits you for 52125.
19:45.21TemYour items suffer a 10% durability loss.
19:45.23TemYou die.
19:45.46KirovGrub laughs at you
19:46.12TemGRUB spits on you.
19:47.33TupladHaving problems with GRUB, Tem ?
19:47.40Temmeh, not my problem
19:47.46TemI don't have to fix it
19:48.07Tembut it just made the last hour of work we just did completely pointless
20:03.33MikkKirkburn: Grats, now your're a ninny too :-)
20:03.40Kirkburn=P
20:03.55AnduinLotharhey mikk
20:04.00Kirkburnninnies ftw
20:04.31AnduinLothari found that CTL wasn't using first in first out for sam prefix msgs
20:04.37AnduinLotharsame*
20:05.21AnduinLotharI already worked around it but adding a message id # to my msgs, but i was kinda of annoyed
20:05.47Mikko.O
20:06.16MikkSame prefix, same destination, same priority, should be FIFO
20:06.28MikkIs any of those not true?
20:06.39AnduinLotharis that true at <20 fps
20:06.40AnduinLothar?
20:06.49MikkThe algorithm doesn't change
20:07.10MikkAnd I mean... I've fed it stuff at rates from 200cps to 10000cps
20:07.30AnduinLotharwell i converted PartyQuests to use Telepathy and found that sending two tables back to back the end msgs would be intertwined
20:07.40Mikkebeeh
20:08.05Rallioni wonder if it's my aging speakers or the damaged wire that's making them sound bad.
20:08.41AnduinLotharthe only other thing i can think is that it threaded them while looping the messages, but that doesnt make sense with what i know of how wow does lua
20:08.44Mikkcould it be a case of case mixups? CTL doesn't attempt to strlower() stuff or anything like that
20:08.58JoshBorkehello
20:09.10Mikkdo the end messages arrive fairly early?
20:09.23Mikkthat'd be indicative of them speeding past in their own private little flow
20:09.51IrielIs wow's message delivery always ordered?
20:10.25KirkburnIt's weird how random articles suddenly get lots of edits on one day - normally a server's page, but today it's 'Druids as Tank'
20:10.44Shadoweddelete it for lying!
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20:11.01Tupladdruids tank just great :o
20:11.06JoshBorkei can't wait until BC!
20:11.10JoshBorkepaladins get a snap-taunt!
20:11.23KirkburnAbsolutely no discussion about it, just lots of edits on that one page :P
20:11.23Shadowedask a druid to tank naxx, they'll die fairly quickly :p
20:12.02TupladShadowed: I refured to roll restoration because I forget to heal anyway, so I was allowed to tank in ZG, when that went well, I was allowed to tank in MC
20:12.32AnduinLothari dunno mikk, i just stumbled accross it, i didn't do conclusive testing ti was like 4am
20:12.35Tupladseen druids tanking in BWL and in AQ40
20:12.54ShadowedDruids can tank fine in pretty much anything pre-twin emps in AQ40, but after that it's fairly hard
20:13.06TemI like having a druid tank one of the 5 defenders in the 5 pull defenders
20:13.23Temit's great when you kill theirs first without getting them out of LoS
20:13.25Shadowedfairly hard and/or impossible
20:13.25MikkAnduinLothar: because if you take a look at the despooling code, you'll see how all it ever does is tremove() at position 1 from the flows. the only way stuff could end up reordered is if it's, in fact, not in the same flow
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20:13.45KirkburnHeh, linked by one of the Blizz employees (DatTH): http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=587078
20:13.57AnduinLothari know, but it also just ssends it if a variable is set and i didn't look to see when it unset
20:14.07Shadowedrofl
20:14.27JoshBorkeROFS
20:14.31JoshBorkes/S/L
20:14.44KirkburnYou lose!
20:14.56Tupladwell, kek
20:15.06Tuplada druid with 13/31/7 :\
20:15.25Shadowedlol
20:15.30Tupladthe 2 pts in resto are a waste :\
20:16.34TupladShadowed: his whole video is ganking afkers, ganking 10vs1 or someone that's mounted and just runs away - fun pvp vid ;<
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20:44.37KirovThe roguecraft videos are about the only pvp videos I actually watch
20:45.11zenzelezzWorld of Roguecraft?
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20:46.15Kirov*cries*
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20:47.10Kirovhttp://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=7940
20:48.19zenzelezzyeah, those are actually a bit fun
20:48.42KirovNothing like watching a naked rogue with the lvl 1 dagger kill an epiced out lvl 60
20:51.20ShadowedYou do realise that the only reason he can do that is become of eviscerates mechanic?
20:51.44Kirovand he's a prep rogue
20:51.48IrielAnyone here tried WoW with an nVidia SLI configuration?
20:52.57Shadowedand his opponents are terrible
20:54.03KirovIriel - I now someone who runs it in SLI
20:54.17IrielKirov: Do you know if (a) it was easy to get working and (b) is fast?
20:54.25KirovLet me ask
20:55.00Kirovhe's a hardware tester / pr guy for NVidia
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21:00.04KirovIriel - he says yes to both, but it's not worth it.
21:00.26Kirova single 7800 gtx is more power than WoW needs
21:00.37cogwheelDepends on your resolution :P
21:01.11Kirovtrue
21:01.37cogwheel1920x1200 isn't too friendly
21:03.26KirovIriel - what res are you running?
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21:10.11Cairennwb Bep
21:10.17Bephiya :)
21:10.24Bepgreat a pastebin xD
21:10.28Cairenntry asking now, I think folks missed your question the first time round
21:10.44Beplemme input my code and aks my question ;)
21:11.17Bepany1 here familiar with MarseMessage  if(event == "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HONOR_GAIN") then
21:11.17Bep<PROTECTED>
21:11.18Bep<PROTECTED>
21:11.22Bepups :(
21:11.29KirkburnWell, I know what my next wiki-job will be ... changing all references to the Blood Elves to blood elves
21:11.37Bepany1 here familiar with marsemessageparser ?
21:11.47Bepsorry pressed ctrl+v ...
21:11.52Cairenns'okay
21:11.57KirovI am
21:12.26KirovMy suggestion, stay far far away from MarsMessageParser.
21:12.35Cairennlol
21:12.58IrielKirov : 1920 x 1200
21:13.07KirovIt's an amazing bit of code, but unless you feel like hurting yourself I'd stay away from trying to use it or understand it unless you've done a lot of lua
21:13.19KirkburnI thought Mars was already pretty far away
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21:13.34Bepow :(
21:13.35Cairenn~bonk Kirkburn
21:13.36purlACTION bonks Kirkburn over the head
21:13.36KirovAnd already understand WoW's event system
21:13.49KirkburnI aim to please :)
21:13.50Bepi found a page on wow-wiki suggesting that i use it :S
21:14.00Bepwell anyway here's my code : http://wowi.pastey.net/253
21:14.10Bepcould sum1 check if it's right ..
21:14.25Bepor give advise on a better way to handle events ;)
21:14.39Cairenngah, no n00bsp34k!
21:16.22Bepkirov : so marsemessageparser is outdated and difficult ?
21:16.56KirovBep - actually, the point of mar's functions are that they don't get outdated.
21:17.19Bepso should i use it for my trial add-on or not ?
21:17.40Bepaccording to wowwiki it saves u a lot of coding ..
21:17.49KirovThis is true
21:17.56KirkburnI need an program that just searches the wiki for badly capitalised names and sorts them all out :(
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21:17.58Bepguess i'm gonna use it then :)
21:18.24KirkburnBlood Elves, Draenei, High Elves, Rogues, Bananas, enough to make my head 'splode
21:18.53Bephas sum1 checked my paste, and can confirm it's the right use for MarsMessageParser ?
21:19.09Kirkburn'sum1' must die :)
21:19.19Bepowk
21:19.30Bepkirk is a bot
21:19.31Bep?
21:19.36Cairennno
21:19.41Cairennpurl is a bot
21:20.02Bepwritten in perl i guess ;)
21:20.41Bepbut can someone please look to my code and tell me if i use it correct
21:20.51Bepthis is my first dive into wow add-ons
21:21.19Cairenngive it time, folks are busy
21:21.29Bepsure
21:21.29Cairennwith their own stuff
21:21.34Bepi understand
21:21.43Cairenna lot of the folks in the channel are actually at work right now
21:21.48BepO_o
21:22.02Bepow wait it's a worldwide channel ..
21:22.05KirkburnCrazy americans
21:22.06Cairennthat it is
21:22.10KirkburnToo many of 'em
21:22.13Cairennthat they are
21:22.13Bepguess i played to much europe wow
21:23.00Bepcan a add-on export a xml file with data in it ?
21:23.04KirkburnYou can never have too much WoW Europe :P
21:23.08KirovBep - no
21:23.13KirkburnNot an ig-game one, no
21:23.18Kirkburn*in-game
21:23.35Bepso where does MarsMessageParser leave the code then ?
21:23.37KirkburnOnly one that converts a saved variables lua file out of the game
21:23.58Bepgood enough
21:24.17Kirkburn(which is how the database websites get their stuff)
21:24.29Kirkburn(well, the reputable ones anyway)
21:24.43Bepi do know php and some other web languages
21:24.50Cairennhrm, what to have for dinner ...
21:24.52Bepnothing fancy like perl ;)
21:24.59KirkburnHaggis
21:25.08KirovBep - Btw, what's the problem you're seeing specifically?
21:25.14KirkburnWith umbilical cord
21:25.28CairennKirkburn: I honour my Scottish ancestry, but not THAT much :p
21:25.35KirkburnThere's nothing like eating entrails =)
21:25.40Bepwell i want my add-on to export the data he has collected to a file which i can write a php parser for :|
21:25.58KirovCairenn - beer and plaid skirts?
21:26.23CairennScotch and kilts ... worn regimental
21:26.39Bephmmm, i'll go and look wowwiki for some info about output
21:26.47zenzelezzand a few Sean Connery posters in the closet
21:27.16Cairennpoured over the chest, of course
21:27.40KirkburnLots of blue paint in that closet as well, I bet :P
21:28.11KirkburnMy, what an innocent little tune!
21:28.37Bepok i found it
21:28.40Cairennand actually, I wouldn't waste good scotch that way
21:28.53Cairennnow, not-so-good scotch, perhaps ;)
21:29.16Bepbut does the MarsMessageParser make that file automatically or do i have to do it in the function it starts ?
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21:32.15KirovBep - not entirely sure, actually.
21:32.32KirovHonestly though, I'd learn how to do it with out Mars before using it.
21:32.40Bepowk ..
21:32.42KirovJust so you understand why.
21:33.00zesprimorning Cairenn
21:33.02Bepbut i cann't find a decent tutorial about it :S
21:33.37KirovBep - you're trying to parse honor messages, right?
21:34.18Kirovhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5349770802105160028&q=4+legged+robot = wpw
21:34.20Kirover, wow
21:34.34Kirovnot in the world of warcraft wow, but in the that's amazing wow
21:34.58Bepy i am trying to get the hang of parsing events
21:35.01Bepyes*
21:35.17Bepand found this page about honor on wowwiki
21:36.24Bepi basically want a add-on which makes a file in which every kill is written by name rank honor
21:37.00Bepi'll use the first example with string.find
21:38.05KirovThe Mars parser takes the existing string that the event uses and makes a string pattern for use in a string.find from it.
21:38.21KirovBasically "free" localization
21:39.06Bepso please explain the following about this http://wowi.pastey.net/256 :
21:39.47Bepon line 3 it says start, end, etc ..
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21:40.23Bepdoes it say from start to end every (.+) is the following variable ?
21:40.46Bepunderstand what i mean
21:40.47Bep?
21:41.17Kirovhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_strfind
21:42.51Kirovstring.find("Foo bar", "(.+) bar") returns 1,3,"Foo"
21:43.15KirovFor every ( ) you have, it'll return another string value.
21:46.12KirkburnDammit, we're so close to the beta ... so close. Not that I'll be able to play of course ... but ... so close :/
21:47.32Bepkirox : tnx !!
21:47.36Bepthanks*
21:47.52Kirkburnheh, better 8-)
21:50.25Endlol
21:50.27Endhttp://www.gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogle.com/
21:50.35Kirkburn"New realms that are not a part of the Paid Character Transfer system due to not reaching their 3 month anniversary as of yet will instead be considered for the system on reaching their 6 month anniversary."
21:50.49Kirkburnriiiight
21:51.27KirkburnIt works!
21:53.24Bephmmm k :) http://wowi.pastey.net/257 this should work ....
21:53.40Beponly need to find out how to register the event, but that will be easy ;)
21:53.59Bepbut do i start the function here or in the lua ?
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21:57.39JoshBorkei don't think you need to have an OnEvent, do you?
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21:57.57JoshBorkeor does MarsMessageParser not handle that?
21:58.21BepJoshBorke : i was just told not to use MarsMessageParser ;)
21:58.30JoshBorkenvm, i'll just my head out of it :-D
21:58.31JoshBorkeoh, ok
21:58.45JoshBorkethen the event you need is: COMBATLOG_HONORGAIN i bet :-D
21:59.00JoshBorkeand you can just stick that in the XML: this:RegisterEvent('COMBATLOG_HONORGAIN')
21:59.02JoshBorkei think...
21:59.23Bepyes, because it's used in the tutorial on Wow-Wiki :)
21:59.34JoshBorkein the OnLoad section
22:00.58Bepaint the event : "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HONOR_GAIN"
22:01.15Shadowedyeah it is
22:03.01BepHonorToText_Parser(killed, rank, honor); is adressed with (ar1, ar2, ar3) ?
22:03.55Bep*arg
22:04.26JoshBorkeyep
22:04.33JoshBorkewell, no
22:04.48JoshBorkeinside HonorToText_Parser, they will be available as killed, rank, and honor
22:05.35Bepso i don't need to restate which arguments are used ?
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22:05.50Bepit just takes over the arguments ?
22:05.51JoshBorkenope
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22:06.03JoshBorkeyou have to use arg1...arg9 because blizzard passes them as global variables
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22:06.59KirkburnIf only
22:07.17KirkburnThe disconnects aren't even long enough for me to notice when I'm browsing the net :/
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22:07.30JoshBorkeKirkburn, i know how you feel :-(
22:08.23Kirov_Bep - http://www.wowwiki.com/Patterns_fired_from_each_CHAT_MSG_events#CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HONOR_GAIN
22:08.34KirkburnFortunately they seemed to have settled into about once every 2hrs
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22:09.06JoshBorkeo.O
22:09.10JoshBorkewhen did wowi start hosting CTMod?
22:10.22Enda while ago
22:11.24JoshBorke~bye
22:11.25purlbye bye
22:11.25Endhow while agoish I dunno, but it's been a while a while sort of a while
22:11.30JoshBorkeok, cool
22:11.30Kirkburnnetsplit!
22:11.30JoshBorkejust noticed it today
22:11.30Endnetsplat!
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22:11.37KirkburnWhy must the japanese inflict so much pain on their men :/ http://www.glumbert.com/media/tonguetwister.html
22:12.32Cide-nice one purl
22:12.36Cide-you lag!
22:12.44KirkburnCairenn woudl probabyl enjoy watching that link :P
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22:13.26CairennOWWWWW
22:13.34JoshBorkeOWWW
22:13.36Cairennthat's just rude!
22:13.46JoshBorkeit's hilarious
22:13.47Kirkburnhehe
22:14.01JoshBorkemainly cause the first guy was the only one to succeed
22:14.46KirkburnIt's just so ... evil!
22:14.54JoshBorkeand the second guy looked so surprised
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22:16.42JoshBorkebye all :-)
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22:25.42zespri_workI wonder if they gave up on the background downloader
22:26.15cogwheelI was wondering that myself, this morning....
22:26.21KirkburnThere's no static elements to download for 1.12
22:26.29KirkburnFor 1.11 it was Naxx in the download
22:26.32zespri_workand if the patch is tomorrow, then they difinitely gave up because the BG didn't kick in
22:26.36Flyoccan you load an addon from the game ?
22:26.37KirkburnThere's no equivalent for 1.12
22:26.49Flyocaddon you installed while the game was running
22:26.55Kirov_No
22:27.12Kirov_Flyoc - Only files that existed when the game started can be loaded
22:27.16Flyocok
22:27.19Taincogwheel the next time someone asks why you didn't give them credit for something say, "Because you're a whiny attention whore, shut the fuck up bitch."
22:27.20KirkburnIf there was a dungeon in 1.12, they would have used the downloader for the assets
22:27.45TainYou can quote me directly if you like.
22:28.20cogwheelI think I was intending to originally but forgot, TBH
22:28.33Bepso this is what i have : http://wowi.pastey.net/258 .. but wow doesn't recognise it :S
22:28.33zespri_workKirkburn, are you sure? What is the big difference?
22:28.57KirkburnThe rest fo the patch will change a lto during the testing
22:29.03KirkburnSecond try:
22:29.12KirkburnThe rest of the patch would change during the PTR testing
22:29.23zespri_workKirkburn, the lst patch the where two or three pieces available for BG and they beame available not at the same time. I doubt that they were adding assets during PTR
22:29.26KirkburnThe art wouldn't change, so that could go out immediately
22:29.43cogwheelBTW: tain, what do you think of the new layout? (or have you tried it yet?)
22:30.03Bepcan someone please look to my paste ?
22:30.12KirkburnThat's my point - for 1.11 the dungeon art could all go out in the BG downloader, but they can't do the same for 1.12
22:30.19Kirkburn(since there isn't any)
22:30.32TainI haven't tried it yet
22:31.23Kirov_Bep - AddMessage is a function only usable on ScrollingTextFrame types
22:32.00IrielMessageframe and ScrollingMessageFrame, actually
22:32.07Irielbut the arguments are different between the two
22:32.35Kirov_Bep - also, You're doing HonorToText_Parser(killed, rank, honor), but the function definition doesn't have any arguments.
22:33.06Bepi asked that before and the answer was he takes them over automatically :|
22:33.27Kirov_arg1, arg2, etc. are global variables that are set on events as a method of passing information from the client to lua
22:33.34Bepow
22:33.52Bepso i give names like : input1, input2, input3 ?
22:34.06Kirov_Anything you want.
22:34.25Kirov_function HonorToText_Parser(killed, rank, honor)
22:34.27Kirov_perfectly valid
22:35.06Kirov_I would also suggest adding "local" in front of the start, end, killed, rank, honor
22:35.11Kirov_(with out the quotes)
22:35.38Kirov_Anyone else prefer pastecode to pastey?
22:36.03Beplocal: u mean right ?
22:36.26Bepas in which frame or as in a extra value ?
22:36.45Kirov_hmm
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22:37.30Cidepastecode > pastey in my opinion, yep
22:38.03Bepow wait, it's where he must look ?
22:38.37Bepcould someone please edit my pastey so that it works ?
22:38.43Bepi can work from there ;)
22:40.34Kirov_http://wow.pastecode.com/3109
22:45.02Beptnx
22:46.40Bepthanks
22:46.43KasoIs there really that much difference between the pasting sites?
22:47.16Tainpastey kicks puppies and steals candy from babies.
22:47.40CairennI've got pastey linked because it was made by norganna specifically for wow authors
22:48.10Kasoi must say i like Pastey's syntax colouring
22:48.11Bepwhat command is used to output text in the frame ?
22:48.21Bepjust give the name and i'll go figure it out :)
22:50.10Kirov_the usual method is DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage
22:53.31Cideit should use javascript for coloring lines though
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22:53.39Cidethat's my biggest gripe :P
22:53.55Cairennso suggest it to norgs next time he's in channel
22:53.58AnduinLotharcide> how does ctra handle transmitting version number?
22:54.10Cairennhe's usually pretty amenable, you know htat
22:54.13Cairennthat*
22:54.17Cideyup, I will if I remember
22:54.29CideAnduinLothar: um, CT_RA_AddMessage("V " .. CT_RA_Version); !
22:54.35Kirov_~seen norganna
22:54.41purlnorganna <n=Ken@203-206-40-76.dyn.iinet.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 9d 15h 24m 23s ago, saying: 'Looking for whoever I loaned my guild on Proudmoore to... Character name's "Guildmojo".'.
22:54.48AnduinLotharright, but i mean i couldn't figure out when it was sent
22:54.57Cidewhen someone requests a status update
22:55.13Cidewhich is usually.. when 1) joining a new channel 2) coming back from LD 3) joining raid
22:55.19Cideor 4) manual status update
22:55.40Bepit gives an error on lua:2: guess that means line 2 .. it says name expected near end :O
22:56.04Kirov_Yes, that does mean line 2
22:56.11Kirov_What file is the error?
22:56.14Beplua
22:56.36Cidedamnit... tracking instant cast is so annoying.. want to buy new event!
22:56.46Kirov_Cide - lol
22:57.20Kirov_Bep - pastecode / pastey it
22:58.14Bepfunction HonorToText_Parser(msg)
22:58.14Beplocal start, end, killed, rank, honor = string.find(msg, "(.+) dies, honorable kill Rank: (.+) %(Estimated Honor Points: (.+)%)");
22:58.14BepHonorToText_core:AddMessage(honor);
22:58.14Bepend
22:58.17Bepups
22:58.18Bepwait
22:58.28Bephttp://wowi.pastey.net/259
22:58.51ThraeBep: Take a look at ParserLib, I believe it can parse those messages.
22:59.23Bepit supposed to give the data in the varial as text in the frame : HonorToText_core
22:59.23Kirov_Thrae - he's still learning lua
22:59.25ThraeThe more addons using ParserLib, the better. There are all kinds of problems with CHAT_MSG parsing, ugh. Horrible, horrible problems.
22:59.35ThraeAhh, sorry to confuse then.
22:59.38Bepi was using Mars ;)
23:00.10Cidelet's make it a standard!
23:00.22Bepi'll start using it soon ;)
23:00.34Bepbut first i want this little add-on to run xD
23:01.05Bepi'll go and look into ParserLib in the meantime
23:03.23BepThrae : where do i find info about ParserLib ?
23:04.02ThraeBep: why, wowinterface.com
23:05.00Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5033-ParserLib.html
23:08.03ckknightBep, take a look at GloryLib if you want PvP data handling.
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23:08.20Cideso many libs! *head asplode*
23:08.21ckknightit keeps track of all sorts of PvP/BG related stuff
23:08.34ckknightand it's highly accurate
23:10.01KyahxCide: I'm sure you've been asked this 100 times, but will CTRA be ready for tomarrow (1.12)?
23:10.13Cidehopefully
23:10.24Cidewho knows!
23:10.29cogwheelbut will ctmod.net be?
23:10.29cogwheellol
23:10.37Cidectmod.net will get a decent amount of hits
23:10.55Kyahxmeh, I couldn't care about that, I'm worried about my raid crying becuase they can't live without CTRA zomg
23:10.58Cidewe've had a beta out for a while, I haven't heard about any bugs
23:11.02Cairennand cide will, of course, make sure it's up on WoWI by then too :p
23:11.08Cidenaturally
23:11.09zenzelezzargh, damnit! One of the sides on this DVD refuses to work
23:11.12Cairenn;)
23:11.16Kyahx:)
23:11.24zenzelezzso I can either skip four episodes, or stop watching
23:11.31Cideor both
23:11.38DsanaiSend it back to NetFlix  ;)
23:11.47Cidehave you tried using toothpaste? :)
23:12.00Cairenntoothpaste?
23:12.03zenzelezznope
23:12.05DsanaiIck
23:12.20Bepckknight : thanks it's exactly what i'm looking for at the moment :)
23:12.21zenzelezzit doesn't give any read errors or anything, just no DVD player will play it
23:12.23zenzelezzother side works fine
23:12.25Cideworks wonders on cd's that don't want to be read
23:12.28DsanaiI use motorcycle windshield cleaner -- it's made for plastics.
23:12.29Cidetry it
23:12.33ckknightBep, use Glory-2.0, not 1.0
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23:12.43ckknightit has less bugs and whatnot.
23:12.51Cideput a decent amount of toothpaste on your toothbrush and apply it on that side
23:12.51ckknightand makes changes for 1.12
23:12.56Cairennspeaking of someone with an inside track to norgs ...
23:12.59Cairennhi MentalPower
23:13.05Cideand then flush it with water and clean it
23:13.13Cideseriously, it works pretty often
23:13.32MentalPowerhey Cair
23:13.51zenzelezzthanks for the tip Cide, might just give it a go
23:14.27Bephmmm i can only find GloryLib 1 :S
23:15.04ckknightBep, it's on SVN currently
23:15.21ckknighthttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/GloryLib/Glory-2.0/
23:15.21BepSVN ?
23:15.27AnduinLotharcide> 'coming back from LD' ?
23:15.29ckknight~svn
23:15.31purli heard subversion is version control software. see http://subversion.tigris.org/ it aims to be a better CVS than CVS.
23:15.39Cideyes?
23:15.45AnduinLotharwhat'd ld?
23:16.00CideLD meaning linkdead (being offline)
23:16.06Cidegetting disconnected
23:16.45AnduinLothark
23:16.59AnduinLotharcool
23:17.07AnduinLotharthat's pretty much how i did it then
23:18.15CairennBep: http://svn.wowace.com/ specifically in this case
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23:20.36Bepckknight : may i ask you some questions in private window ?
23:21.19ckknightum...
23:21.21ckknightk?
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23:23.35KirkburnOooh, OOOOH ... really?! Well that's shocking. Whatever would his mother say? That too? Wow ...
23:23.38Bephmm guess that GloryLib is for later :)
23:23.59Bepat the moment i'm confused about this sentence :
23:24.10Beplocal start, end, killed, rank, honor = string.find(msg, "(.+) dies, honorable kill Rank: (.+) %(Estimated Honor Points: (.+)%)");
23:24.17Bepit needs a name near end ..
23:24.27ckknightBep, note: that fails on non-enUS clients.
23:24.44Bep:)
23:25.02Bephow should it been done for euUK ?
23:25.21ckknightenGB should be fine.
23:26.01Shadowed5 minutes before raid invites
23:26.03MentalPowerenGB == enUS for most things
23:26.04Shadowedserver shutdown 15:00 minutes
23:26.05Shadowed...
23:26.18KirkburnThey don't change the spelling :(
23:26.39KirkburnBlooming americans making us put up with an 'Honor' system :/
23:26.51Cairennyeah =/
23:26.56KirkburnWe're fighting for something we don't even believe in!
23:27.53ckknighthehe
23:27.58ckknightwe stole your u's.
23:28.11Cairennand threw them in the trash!
23:28.21Cairennbloody yanks
23:28.44ckknightum, hippie.
23:28.51Cairennheh
23:29.16KirkburnUm, no patch
23:29.21KirkburnIt seems
23:29.25Cidehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9521520&p=1&tmp=1#post9521520
23:29.26Kirkburnhttp://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-realm-test/361703.htm
23:29.33ShadowedCair lied to us
23:29.41ckknightdamn, Cairenn
23:29.44CideI don't get why everyone links to blue.cardplace.com when the posts are recent :P
23:29.51ckknightyour little bird needs to be roasted ;-)
23:29.52KirkburnCOs it's easier to read?
23:30.00KirkburnAnd quicker? :)
23:30.10KirkburnSo yeah, no patch
23:30.15ckknightoh well.
23:30.34CairennI shall scold him severely
23:31.06KirkburnHe should come and apologise in person =)
23:31.13Shadowedagreed
23:31.27Cairennpresumptions guys :p
23:31.36Cairennyou only *think* you know who I'm talking about
23:31.37Shadowedyour logic isn't welcome
23:31.50ShadowedI could think of a few responces
23:32.07KirkburnI thought about who it could have been, but then that would be too easy, wouldn't it
23:32.19Cidemy server r down!
23:32.25Shadowedsame
23:32.34Shadowedemeregancy DB maintence 5 minutes before raid
23:32.39Cideyup
23:33.34Shadowedthey need to go post the ETA
23:33.58Shadowedgeneral forums already has 5 topics complaining in under 5 minutes!
23:34.20KirkburnUm, I think that's the nature of an emergency
23:34.31Shadowedthe emergency is DB maintence
23:34.32KirkburnEsp. since they aren't anywhere near each other
23:34.49Shadowedgothik needs to die :(
23:35.06KirkburnWell the DB will still be on-site, I guess
23:35.14Shadowed1 hour is the ETA downtime
23:35.23Shadowedhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9521641&p=1&tmp=1#post9521641
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23:35.48KirkburnSuch is life
23:35.51JoshBorkehi :)
23:36.04Kirkburn:)
23:36.13Shadowedmaintenance right before raid = sad me
23:36.18KirkburnI at least have other things to do. Like sleep :P
23:36.32Shadowedespecially since we have to do ZG if the servers dont come up soon enough :p
23:36.52KirkburnWouldn't that be awful :O ;)
23:37.03Shadowedfull ZG runs are awful!
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23:41.37Shadowedthat was fast
23:41.41Shadowedservers back up already
23:41.48cladhair1it still looking like tomorrow for 1.12?
23:41.52Kirkburn1\o/
23:41.53Cairennno
23:41.53Shadowednope
23:41.58Shadowedcair lied to us :(
23:42.09cladhair1woot
23:42.10Kirkburn1noodle
23:42.16cladhair1now the magic question are the ptr's still up?
23:42.20Shadowedprobably
23:42.22Kirkburn1aye
23:42.41cladhair1cause if the other click-cast authors don't update.. i can take over the clique-casting world!
23:42.45cladhair1at lkeast for BRF =)
23:42.47Kirkburn1But ther'll be maintenance on them
23:43.12Kirkburn1http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-realm-test/361703.htm
23:43.39JoshBorkethere are other click-cast authors? o.O
23:43.47cladhairethats fine
23:43.49cladhaireJoshBorke: yeah.. there's a few
23:44.19cladhairei just hope lozareth doesn't finish his
23:44.28cladhairei can only imagine what features i'd have to cope with
23:44.29JoshBorkenone as good as clique :-D
23:45.04JoshBorkei'm still having issues with dispel'ing magic on friendlies :-/
23:45.08snurreclique + squishy FTW
23:45.27Kirkburn1Btw, if you want to know the relative populations of areas of WoW: http://www.wowwiki.com/Lands_of_Conflict
23:45.32cladhaireJoshBorke: why? whats it doing?
23:45.40Bephow do i load that glory ?
23:45.53Bepas a script in the start of the XML or another way ?
23:46.14JoshBorkecladhaire: it appears when a unit has magic debuff and i try Clique:CureAny(Clique.unit) it says 'there is nothing to dispel' as if it's dispel'ing the target rather than the friendly unit i clicked on
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23:48.04cladhaireJoshBorke: Is it a friendly target, AND clique target?
23:48.16cladhairecause thats a sticky case imo
23:48.39cladhaireand the logic in cureany may not be able to handle it properly.. hrm
23:49.15Bephmm glory is ace dependant ... do i load it as a usual lua or another way ?
23:49.16JoshBorkemy current target is an enemy, and my clique target is friendly :-)
23:49.24MentalPoweroh, hey cladhaire! :)
23:49.57cladhaireMentalPower: heyas =)
23:50.11cladhaireJoshBorke: Hrm.. i wish there was a good way to test it =(
23:50.16cladhairecan you think of any scenarios
23:50.24cladhaireany mobs that regularly do a magic debuff
23:50.29JoshBorkecladhaire: SM library
23:50.37cladhairehow far into the library?
23:50.38cladhairelol
23:50.44cladhaireand do you have a PVE character?
23:50.45JoshBorkefirst hallway
23:50.50JoshBorkeno :-/
23:50.51cladhaireshit
23:50.56cladhairei dont have a priest on PTR either =(
23:51.02JoshBorkeoh i do!
23:51.08JoshBorkemaybe...
23:51.15cladhaireif you do
23:51.15JoshBorkei got the first priest/druid on the PTR but never logged on...
23:51.18cladhairethen MAYBE we can test
23:51.36JoshBorkewhatever you need from me :-)
23:51.46ckknight_cladhaire, what're you testing?
23:51.54cladhaireckknight_: clique with dispel magic voodoo.
23:52.00ckknight_ah, okay
23:52.02cladhairehehe
23:52.25cladhaireSo what I really need, is someone who is willing to do some basic unit testing for me with Clique on a somewhat regular basis.
23:52.49cladhaireI.e. have a seperate WTF/Interface directory, and download the more popular unit frames, and make sure the basic functionality of CLique still exists.
23:53.14cladhaireMost of my time right now is taken up with testing new versions of Sage, or XPerl, etc. so I dont get much time to focus on PerfectRaid or talk to ag about WatchDog
23:53.21cladhaireso if you know anyone who is interested please let me know.
23:53.32cladhaire<3 wowi =)
23:54.43Bepcladhaire : read personal screen ;)
23:54.45JoshBorkehrm, i don't know if i can test it on the test server...
23:54.56Bepi'm willing to test it xD
23:55.18Bepon european english server ...
23:55.38cladhaireBep: I didn't get your PM.. are you registered/identified?
23:55.40cladhaireJoshBorke: Why not?
23:55.52JoshBorkehaving trouble downloading one of the patches
23:55.56Bepi'm new here :)
23:56.03cladhaireBep: hehe /msg nickserv help
23:56.04cladhairespecifically
23:56.10cladhaire<PROTECTED>
23:56.16cladhaires/ery/er/
23:56.16JoshBorkeoh nvm, it works now :-D
23:56.21Bepwell if u are willing to give me some pointers about add-on scripting ...
23:56.32Bepi can help u test ur add-ons in the future :)
23:56.39cladhaireJoshBorke: Cool, let me know if you have a priest, i've got a rogue and druid one on each side
23:56.44cladhairewe can meet up for some secks
23:56.47Bepi have a priest lvl 60 ^^
23:57.01cladhaireWe need two people to test this part =/
23:57.11Bepare u on a european server ?
23:57.26cladhairenope, us
23:58.08JoshBorkeso many updates...
23:58.31AnduinLotharwhat do you need?
23:58.41cladhaireAnduinLothar: We need to do some debugging with dispel magic
23:58.53bieZtcladhaire : do u get my private message now ?
23:59.00AnduinLotharneed the 2nd person to be active?
23:59.01cladhairemaking sure my cureany method works when you have a hostile targeted and you try to cure a friendly
23:59.14MentalPowerhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9521676&s=blizzard&tmp=1#blizzard  <---Nice
23:59.16cladhaireAnduinLothar: well it needs to be a priest, since mine is not there. and the priest needs to be active
23:59.27AnduinLothari have a pally, will that work?
23:59.39Kirkburn1wpw
23:59.43Kirkburn1wow, even
23:59.54cladhaireit should, but do you have clique installed? =)
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