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| 00:11.54 | Flyoc | !seen Kirov |
| 00:11.57 | Flyoc | :( |
| 00:12.04 | Cairenn | ~ |
| 00:12.31 | Cairenn | (that was a hint) |
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| 00:18.14 | Cairenn | wb Kirov |
| 00:18.45 | Kirov | moo |
| 00:18.51 | Cairenn | purr |
| 00:20.48 | Flyoc | !! |
| 00:20.57 | Flyoc | Kirov: I have your translations |
| 00:21.05 | Kirov | woot! |
| 00:21.52 | Kirov | want my e-mail address? |
| 00:22.01 | Flyoc | we can do it here |
| 00:22.28 | Cairenn | hey now, no "doing it" here! at least, not unless I"m included |
| 00:22.39 | Kirov | *blink* |
| 00:22.40 | MentalPower | lol |
| 00:22.45 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 00:22.53 | Kirov | Don't make me break out "the" photo |
| 00:25.35 | MentalPower|AFK | off to the movies |
| 00:25.43 | MentalPower|AFK | see you guys later :) |
| 00:25.44 | Cairenn | have fun MentalPower|AFK :) |
| 00:25.51 | MentalPower|AFK | I will, thanks |
| 00:26.21 | Tem | oh damnit! Way to piss on my parade, Blizzard |
| 00:26.27 | Cairenn | uh oh |
| 00:26.32 | Tem | they fixed the bug where I could blink past the portal in the deadmines |
| 00:26.40 | Kirov | lol |
| 00:26.47 | Cairenn | ah |
| 00:26.58 | Tem | and if you fll off the world there and did a slowfall, you would land in dev playland |
| 00:27.03 | Tem | it looked awesome |
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| 00:34.36 | Cairenn | I used to use the trick to get through the barrier in ST without having to do the whole thing :p |
| 00:36.47 | MentalPower|AFK | ZOMG, Cairenn the exploiter |
| 00:36.59 | Cairenn | lol, it was back during CB :p |
| 00:37.08 | Cairenn | and I reported that it was possible :p |
| 00:37.15 | Cairenn | what movie are you going to see? |
| 00:37.23 | MentalPower|AFK | just giving you shit for it :P |
| 00:37.38 | MentalPower|AFK | Woman in the Water or something along those lines |
| 00:37.48 | Cairenn | oh, that ... ewwwww |
| 00:38.05 | Cairenn | not to my taste, that's certain |
| 00:38.08 | MentalPower|AFK | that bad? |
| 00:38.22 | Cairenn | no idea, saw the preview, won't go see it |
| 00:38.33 | Cairenn | genre I don't enjoy is all |
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| 00:44.31 | Kirov | http://wearetheweb.org/ - scary |
| 00:47.02 | Kirkburn | Ach, it's too pale |
| 00:47.21 | Kirkburn | It's almost white-on-white |
| 00:48.53 | Kirkburn | Great video though :D |
| 00:52.38 | Kirkburn | Especially how they got several internet celebs to take part :) |
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| 01:07.45 | Kaso | what..the..hell |
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| 01:08.49 | Kaso | RE: Kirkburn's link i mean |
| 01:09.16 | Kirkburn | Sure you mean me? |
| 01:09.24 | Kaso | no i dont :< |
| 01:09.33 | Kaso | but anyway |
| 01:09.43 | Kaso | is that meant to be a parody or something.. |
| 01:11.20 | Kirkburn | Don't think so, just supposed to be fun |
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| 01:21.46 | Kirkburn | Wow, there's so many games available through Steam now :O |
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| 01:34.19 | Industrial | I'm getting UP 2-36. self.First is 1, self.Last is 36, self.Limit is 12. http://pastebin.ca/112583 |
| 01:34.40 | Industrial | I want to have RIGHT 2-12 then 1 up and then right again etc |
| 01:34.49 | Industrial | what am I doing wrong here :s |
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| 01:57.15 | JoshBorke | can i change the color of portions of a fontstring? |
| 01:57.20 | DoomGaze3 | ~poke Rozr |
| 01:57.21 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Rozr, pokes Rozr repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 01:58.23 | Rozr | lol |
| 02:03.54 | Kirkburn | Night, all! |
| 02:04.18 | Kirkburn | I'lls bes seeings yous tomorrows |
| 02:04.20 | Cairenn | night Kirkburn |
| 02:05.22 | JoshBorke | woohoo! you can! |
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| 02:21.10 | cladhaire | HOLY SHIT YAY I HATE KEITH!!!! |
| 02:21.54 | Cairenn | *blinks* |
| 02:22.07 | cladhaire | anyone watch project runway? |
| 02:22.09 | cladhaire | thought not. |
| 02:22.12 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:27.56 | Tem | what's project runway? |
| 02:28.42 | cladhaire | a show about fashion designers on bravo |
| 02:28.44 | cladhaire | == gay on gay |
| 02:29.02 | cladhaire | but i like mild trade-based reality TV.. like top chef, etc. |
| 02:34.29 | Tem | what's Bravo? |
| 02:34.41 | cladhaire | tv |
| 02:34.54 | Tem | never seen that channel before |
| 02:35.08 | Tem | must be one of them funny channels higher than 22 |
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| 02:35.14 | spadool | hello ! |
| 02:35.34 | cladhaire | 70 |
| 02:35.34 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:35.38 | cladhaire | well here |
| 02:35.53 | spadool | i want to create a very small addon for wow |
| 02:36.13 | spadool | so in fact all i want to do .. is click the right mousebutton via a keybinding |
| 02:37.12 | spadool | can you help me with that ? |
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| 02:37.53 | cladhaire | i dont believe it can be done anymore |
| 02:38.05 | spadool | hmm |
| 02:38.22 | cladhaire | As far as I know, teh "RightClick" function is now protected and not available to us, but I haven't tried with a keybinding. |
| 02:38.36 | spadool | why did they do so ? |
| 02:38.47 | cladhaire | for a number of reasons |
| 02:38.52 | cladhaire | give me one second if you dont mind. |
| 02:39.05 | spadool | :) |
| 02:39.15 | spadool | ok .. so in the old times .all you had to do was |
| 02:39.18 | spadool | rightclick ? |
| 02:39.32 | spadool | <binding>rightclick</binding> ?? |
| 02:40.08 | cladhaire | gimme a moment =) |
| 02:40.19 | spadool | ja |
| 02:40.42 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 02:42.30 | cladhaire | spadool: No longer possible, i'm sorry =/ |
| 02:43.04 | spadool | hmmm ... all i need this for is auto loot |
| 02:43.20 | spadool | so after i killed the monster .. i want to loot and skin it |
| 02:43.52 | spadool | i play with keyboard only .. |
| 02:44.07 | spadool | so all i need the mouse for is loot and skin |
| 02:44.14 | cladhaire | you can't do that unfortunately. |
| 02:45.04 | spadool | hmmmm .. i am level 30 ... played 8 days ... and fought my way from ashenvale to the neutral auctionhouse .. |
| 02:45.26 | spadool | i will find a way to click the mouse with keyboard ... |
| 02:46.04 | spadool | so you can not realy do much with addons any more .right ? |
| 02:47.08 | spadool | okok .. :) |
| 02:48.02 | cladhaire | You can do tons |
| 02:48.02 | cladhaire | lots |
| 02:48.07 | cladhaire | just no automation type things |
| 02:48.52 | spadool | what kind a stuff ? |
| 02:51.20 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com |
| 02:51.22 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:51.23 | cladhaire | plenty |
| 02:51.31 | cladhaire | to much to say in a small convo on irc |
| 02:52.47 | spadool | how do bots like glide work ? |
| 02:53.35 | cladhaire | they use third party programs to monitor the graphics and information (network) coming in from the server. |
| 02:54.15 | cladhaire | and its those sorts of programs that blizzard removed a lot of functionality that made them easier (i.e. moving without keypresses etc). among other things |
| 02:54.37 | spadool | ja |
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| 02:56.24 | spadool | thank you for the info .. :) |
| 02:56.46 | spadool | bye ! |
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| 02:57.48 | cladhaire | bye! |
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| 03:01.46 | Cairenn | night clad |
| 03:01.55 | clad|sleep | night cairenn! |
| 03:02.33 | clad|sleep | bye! =) |
| 03:04.34 | Kirov | Anyone have a good mac guild for installing mods? |
| 03:04.59 | AnduinLothar | guide you mean |
| 03:05.03 | AnduinLothar | same as windows |
| 03:05.18 | Kirov | for someone who doesn't know how to uncompress files |
| 03:05.51 | AnduinLothar | double click the zip file |
| 03:10.37 | AnduinLothar | :D made a mod that lets you click on channels and chat types in chat |
| 03:10.54 | AnduinLothar | right click for join/leave/color change/list |
| 03:11.01 | AnduinLothar | left click to open editbox |
| 03:11.18 | Cairenn | cool |
| 03:12.18 | AnduinLothar | heh, my 3rd incarnation of chat mods... they all do basicly the same thing with diff guis |
| 03:18.21 | Kirov | No one here in northern cali |
| 03:18.25 | Kirov | ? |
| 03:19.30 | Cairenn | Iriel's in Bay area, when he's around |
| 03:20.59 | Kirov | 4.4 earthquake here |
| 03:21.06 | Cairenn | gah! |
| 03:21.38 | Kirov | ~40 miles north of sf |
| 03:25.00 | Cairenn | how long ago? |
| 03:30.17 | Kirov | 20 minutes ago now |
| 03:32.09 | AnduinLothar | so... how would i detect global cooldown and make it stop all spell cast api calls |
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| 03:33.50 | Cairenn | Iriel! |
| 03:33.55 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 03:34.07 | norganna_ | speakest of the devil |
| 03:34.23 | norganna_ | and hence arriveth |
| 03:35.11 | norganna_ | KirovNo one here in northern cali |
| 03:35.13 | norganna_ | ? |
| 03:35.14 | norganna_ | CairennIriel's in Bay area, when he's around |
| 03:35.16 | norganna_ | Kirov4.4 earthquake here |
| 03:35.47 | norganna_ | (that was meant to be quoted text -- silly chatzilla) |
| 03:35.55 | Cairenn | lol, apparently he didn't even feel it :p |
| 03:36.16 | Iriel | It was far enough north that this isnt' a surprise |
| 03:37.36 | Iriel | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/shakemap/nc/shake/40187964/ |
| 03:48.39 | norganna_ | sounds pretty scary Iriel... |
| 03:49.27 | Iriel | Not really if you dont feel stuff shake |
| 03:49.35 | Iriel | When things shake it's a bit strange |
| 03:49.48 | Cairenn | 4.4 isn't anything to sneeze at though |
| 03:49.56 | Iriel | Not if you're close to it, no. |
| 03:50.29 | Kirov | 4.4 will definatly wake you up from a nap |
| 03:50.34 | norganna_ | i dunno - when that happens, doesn't it make you think: "Hmm - the ground is angry here... time to move to a place that doesn't have a big red line going through it"? |
| 03:50.34 | Cairenn | um, yeah |
| 03:50.38 | Kirov | knock some stuff off the walls |
| 03:50.48 | Kirov | I think the biggest I've been in was a 5.8 |
| 03:50.59 | Cairenn | *shiver* |
| 03:51.18 | Kirov | which still isn't enough to do structural damage, but was enough to bounce me out of bed |
| 03:51.24 | Iriel | The most noticable one I've been here for was up that way (Santa Rosa, IIRC) |
| 03:51.37 | Iriel | shook the 3rd floor apartment back and forth noticably for a few seconds |
| 03:52.02 | Iriel | And that was still when I was living near here, that one must have been quite impressive close up |
| 03:52.03 | Cairenn | only ones I've ever had the fun of have all been teeny |
| 03:52.35 | Cairenn | (yes, we do get earthquakes here in Canada) |
| 03:53.31 | Kirov | earthquakes in canada are just the earth shivering because it's so bloody cold. |
| 03:53.47 | Cairenn | enough to rock the floor beneath your feet, but that's been the worst I've experencied |
| 03:53.56 | Cairenn | rofl Kirov |
| 03:53.58 | Iriel | Do the polar bears all run around frantically? |
| 03:53.59 | Kirov | I hate rolling earthquakes more |
| 03:54.07 | Iriel | And do you have to rebuild your igloos afterwards? |
| 03:54.14 | Cairenn | ha ha |
| 03:54.25 | Cairenn | did I not mention the temps it's been here the last few days? |
| 03:54.29 | Iriel | I've been to Canadia, I know these things to be true |
| 03:54.41 | Cairenn | liar liar pants on fire! |
| 03:55.00 | Tain | It's so hot. |
| 03:55.08 | Iriel | Well, it was snowing, at the time |
| 03:56.14 | Tain | I've had my ac on high all night and it's still not cool enough in here. |
| 03:56.15 | Iriel | And one of my flights had to turn back and land at toronto after they couldn't land |
| 03:56.24 | Iriel | (at the intended destination) |
| 03:56.28 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 03:56.33 | Iriel | Tain: I dont like overheat much, you have my sympathy |
| 03:56.46 | Cairenn | I love the heat, it's the damn humidity that is getting to me |
| 03:56.56 | Tain | Yeah that's what I really can't deal with. |
| 03:57.04 | Iriel | Luckily the previous owner of the house installed a ridiculously large A/C unit |
| 03:57.34 | Tain | We had a brief thunderstorm earlier tonight and I had a flashback of losing power for 10 hours a couple of weeks ago. |
| 03:57.50 | Tain | If that happened tonight... I don't know what I would have done that didn't involve homocide. |
| 03:58.12 | Iriel | This year's been pretty good on the power front, I've only been out for a few seconds |
| 03:58.24 | Iriel | though it was very badly timed (I was in mid-spell-cast in WoW) |
| 03:59.36 | Tain | I think if it happened again in the middle of the night I'd jump in the car and head to the casino. Hour drive, but they're open all night and have a/c. |
| 04:00.41 | Tain | We had power lines down from trees blowing over so it was a good long time the power was out. and of course I couldn't remember where the flashlights are because they're in boxes I haven't unpacked yet. |
| 04:00.56 | Tain | So the only light I had was candles from Yankee Candle. But damn it smelled good in here. |
| 04:02.23 | ckknight | anyone know where the wowwiki page on item links is? |
| 04:02.50 | ckknight | I want to know the maximum number that each chunk in the link can go up to |
| 04:03.45 | AnduinLothar | not documented |
| 04:05.17 | norganna_ | my footsies are freezing at the moment |
| 04:05.20 | ckknight | damn |
| 04:05.33 | norganna_ | thinking of going and getting some socks to put on them |
| 04:07.28 | Tain | I'm thinking of going to get a bag of ice, filling a bucket, and sticking my feet in it |
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| 04:14.58 | Cairenn | evening Esamynn |
| 04:15.04 | Esamynn | evening Cair |
| 04:15.08 | Esamynn | and all :) |
| 04:16.34 | MentalPower | ckknight: the current highest are "2164" for the randomprops and "2721" for the enchants |
| 04:18.02 | Cairenn | so how was the movie? |
| 04:18.43 | MentalPower | it was... interesting |
| 04:18.50 | MentalPower | wierd, but interesting at the same time |
| 04:23.36 | Iriel | Those are the best movies! |
| 04:23.58 | MentalPower | depends on the person I guess |
| 04:25.29 | Iriel | Pineapple anyone? I ended up with too much |
| 04:26.01 | Cairenn | pass, thanks anyway |
| 04:26.05 | Cide | pineapple is delicious |
| 04:26.25 | Iriel | yes, yes it is |
| 04:26.33 | Cairenn | no, no it isn't |
| 04:27.29 | Esamynn | Iriel, you have SVN experience right? got any insights on using a single repository for multiple projects? |
| 04:27.57 | Cairenn | although it can add a nice flavour to chicken |
| 04:28.40 | Iriel | Really the tricky part is deciding how you want to lay out your branch and tag directories |
| 04:29.03 | kergoth | i wouldnt say its tricky.. there are any number of layouts thatll work just one, just a matter of figuring out which one you prefer :) |
| 04:29.20 | Iriel | Bah, pedantry 8-) |
| 04:29.41 | ckknight | MentalPower, awesome, two bytes each, then |
| 04:29.56 | ckknight | so maximally, item links will be 8 characters long, and minimally 4 characters long |
| 04:30.02 | Iriel | trunk/project1 trunk/project2 etc works nicely if you dont mind doing branches/project1-somebranch/ |
| 04:30.07 | ckknight | depending on whether there are :0's in it |
| 04:30.12 | ckknight | (according to my compression system) |
| 04:31.08 | ckknight | I'm assuming that the beginning number is maximally 256^3 - 1 |
| 04:31.49 | Esamynn | how about on deciding when to put projects togeather, thats what I really end up waffling about |
| 04:32.26 | Iriel | If they're in one repository you can always re-arrange them later |
| 04:32.51 | Esamynn | but you can't seperate, although I know you can merge repositories |
| 04:33.04 | Iriel | You can but it's fiddly |
| 04:33.24 | Iriel | You basically do dumps of repository subsets and import into a fresh one |
| 04:33.46 | Esamynn | oh, I didn't realise you could dump subsets |
| 04:34.02 | Iriel | I'm 90%+ certain you can, one sec |
| 04:35.34 | Iriel | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch05s03.html |
| 04:35.43 | Iriel | svndumpfilter allows you to drop or keep just a subset of a dump |
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| 05:14.18 | Vallerius | is there a modders' guild on test at all? |
| 05:15.45 | MentalPower | LoadOnDemand on Draka |
| 05:15.55 | MentalPower | thats the aAlliance guild |
| 05:16.03 | Vallerius | draka's not a test server :) |
| 05:16.08 | MentalPower | RegisterForSave is the horde guild, same server |
| 05:16.19 | MentalPower | on test? |
| 05:16.31 | Vallerius | yessir. |
| 05:16.31 | MentalPower | create one yourself, its really not that hard :) |
| 05:16.56 | Vallerius | yes i know, was just wondering if there was an existing guild of like-minded individuals :) |
| 05:17.03 | Cairenn | not at present |
| 05:17.10 | MentalPower | not that I know of |
| 05:17.59 | Vallerius | okey, thanks |
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| 05:52.11 | Cairenn | night Iriel |
| 05:52.13 | Cairenn | night all |
| 05:52.19 | MentalPower | night Iriel |
| 05:52.32 | MentalPower | night Cair |
| 05:53.20 | ckknight | g'night you two |
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| 06:26.59 | AnduinLothar | ...to make sure it still works |
| 06:27.15 | Shadowed | ... |
| 06:29.20 | Esamynn | sigh, I keep hoping for a new PTR build |
| 06:29.29 | Shadowed | What's broken this time? |
| 06:30.19 | Esamynn | well I want to see Rislyn's latest bag anchor code and I want to wait one more build before I bug slouken about some missing combat log messages |
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| 06:31.20 | Esamynn | oh well |
| 06:31.22 | Esamynn | good night all |
| 06:31.30 | Shadowed | night |
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| 06:44.00 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, I heard you're using Mikk's ChatThrottleLib in Sky for 1.12 |
| 06:44.06 | ckknight | if so, good stuff |
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| 06:57.08 | AnduinLothar | Yeah, that's the plan. My only grip was that sending in bursts on a slow machine lags the fps. But he implimented no bursting if you're bellow 20fps so it's still faster than what I have in Sky |
| 06:58.29 | AnduinLothar | I hacked it into Sky for testing and am running that now, works fine for everything but PQ which lags a bit when you request multiple quests |
| 06:58.36 | AnduinLothar | but doesn't disc you |
| 06:58.59 | Kirov | woot |
| 06:59.19 | Kirov | new guild, first real 40 man raid, MC, 4 hours flat |
| 06:59.28 | AnduinLothar | nice |
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| 07:23.55 | Shadowed | Vallerius: WSG hasn't had a Herald for about 3-4 patches :p |
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| 07:41.45 | Vallerius | Shadowed: I'm old-school like that :p |
| 07:42.19 | Vallerius | and that code base is from warsong commander, which is hella old |
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| 07:47.29 | Shadowed | I can't even remember when Blizzard had herald's in WSG |
| 07:48.10 | Shadowed | then again, I can't remember much about when WSG came out, didn't get a lot of sleep during that time! |
| 07:49.02 | Vallerius | I remember being all mad when they switched from the heralds, I had to update all my crap >_< |
| 07:49.28 | Shadowed | I wish they'd update AV to use the correct messages |
| 07:50.12 | Shadowed | Annoying having to register/check NPC yells just for AV, but using alliance/horde BG system messages for WSG/AB |
| 07:51.54 | Vallerius | Lots of the AV ones really *are* NPC yells though, it fits more with the character of the place |
| 07:52.32 | Shadowed | That's true, but WSG/AB also fit into the kind of place you'd expect herald yells. |
| 07:52.53 | Shadowed | I'm not saying remove them all, just move the herald ones for capturing/destroying to system messages to make it more consistent with WSG/AB |
| 07:53.07 | Vallerius | yeah, that would make more sense |
| 07:53.45 | Shadowed | moved all of that stuff to it's own library though, so not really a hassle to deal with anymore |
| 07:56.06 | Vallerius | urg... to bed for me |
| 07:56.25 | Shadowed | night |
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| 10:54.49 | krka | well, except tostring of course |
| 11:04.24 | AnduinLothar | -0? |
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| 11:15.02 | AnduinLothar | oh noes, my author rating is only 4 stars on wowi, dear me. what ever will i do... |
| 11:15.03 | AnduinLothar | I know... I'm delete all the mods not rated with 5 stars! |
| 11:16.40 | AnduinLothar | er.. maybe not |
| 11:16.41 | AnduinLothar | must.. sleep |
| 11:17.27 | zenzelezz | is this a sarcastic remark about some other author, or just sleepy rambling? o_O |
| 11:18.31 | AnduinLothar | mostyl sleepy rambling |
| 11:18.53 | AnduinLothar | tho it has kind of an anti-"one hit wonder" feel doesn't it |
| 11:22.06 | AnduinLothar | yeah, im gonna go with sleepy ramblings and save myself the bother of pstcoanalyzing myself while deprived and likely depraved |
| 11:30.07 | Industrial | http://pastebin.ca/113112 |
| 11:30.12 | Industrial | im my description im referring to line 37 |
| 11:33.05 | Mikk | The WoWi star calculation is evil. It seems to round down. |
| 11:33.12 | Mikk | 5,5,5,5,5,5,4,5,5,5,5 = you get 4 stars |
| 11:33.35 | Mikk | (At least that's what it seems like to me) |
| 11:34.56 | Industrial | ratings ftl |
| 11:35.25 | Industrial | it just doesnt work on the internet |
| 11:36.12 | Industrial | meanwhile |
| 11:36.13 | Industrial | http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BSKQHEN&key=BSK |
| 11:36.18 | Industrial | :> |
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| 12:50.49 | End | author rating seems to have nothing to do with how your AddOns are rated on wowi |
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| 12:51.42 | End | (actually, let's put it this way...it doesn't match up at all for me) |
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| 13:21.39 | ckknight | what'd be the cheapest way to tell if a table is a numerically-indexed list (but doesn't have other keys)? |
| 13:29.59 | krka | from lua? probably iterating with next and looking for non-number keys |
| 13:30.11 | End | incidently, I think it does number keys first |
| 13:30.24 | krka | nope |
| 13:30.24 | End | well, keys stored in the array, not hash part of the table |
| 13:30.53 | wereHamster | table.getn(tbl) == (function() local c,v = 0; while v = next(tbl, v) c = c + 1 end end) .. something like this |
| 13:30.56 | krka | hm, true |
| 13:31.01 | krka | but that doesn't really help end |
| 13:31.21 | End | it does a little, just not much |
| 13:32.02 | Thrae | Number keys first? That means it'd have to sort the table by keys, wouldn't it? As it's basically an array (a vector) in C. |
| 13:32.13 | End | well |
| 13:32.16 | End | tables have two parts: |
| 13:32.17 | krka | for k, v in pairs(table) do if type(k) ~= "number" then ... |
| 13:32.20 | End | a normal array |
| 13:32.22 | End | and a hash |
| 13:32.25 | krka | of course, you should check that it's an integer too |
| 13:32.58 | End | well, not all numbers are in the array part, but I'm not sure what ckknight wants |
| 13:33.19 | End | for an empty table, foo[5445] = "blah" would store to the hash |
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| 13:34.17 | Thrae | Ah, so non-ordered indexes cause a hash instead of a direct index. That makes sense. |
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| 13:34.47 | Wobble | I suggest something to the effect of if(not next(tbl, table.getn(tbl))) |
| 13:35.02 | Thrae | Don't need an array of size 5445 if that's the only key! |
| 13:35.31 | End | well, and the very definition of the way lua does arrays as being up til nil |
| 13:35.36 | End | I like Wobble's suggestion though |
| 13:35.40 | krka | yeah, wobble wins it |
| 13:35.51 | Wobble | whee =) |
| 13:36.03 | krka | unless the table is untrusted to begin with |
| 13:36.05 | Wobble | aye |
| 13:36.13 | krka | someone setting tbl.n to something odd |
| 13:36.15 | Wobble | it'll only work with tables where getn is valid |
| 13:37.21 | End | hmm |
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| 17:20.30 | AnduinLothar | Sea 1.20 if anyone's interested: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-122-1-sea.html |
| 17:20.56 | AnduinLothar | Contains the 4 mini-libs so you can just drag them out and embed them |
| 17:21.26 | Gryphen | woot |
| 17:31.08 | AnduinLothar | So, I'm seriously debating scrapping Sky for 1.12 and starting over. Any idea what I should call it? |
| 17:31.15 | AnduinLothar | Brainstorming: Wideband, AddonComm, Radio, Broadband, Wireless, CallBox |
| 17:31.28 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: AceComm :D |
| 17:31.40 | Kirov | Ocrean |
| 17:31.55 | Kirov | s/Ocrean/Ocean/ |
| 17:32.14 | AnduinLothar | yeah, see there's a slight problem that I don't want ace in Cosmos since it has duplicate functionality. |
| 17:32.30 | Kirov | AnduinLothar - That's easily fixed. |
| 17:32.32 | AnduinLothar | We've always been about common dependancies |
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| 17:32.48 | AnduinLothar | and rewritting all our mods to use ace is not an option |
| 17:32.50 | End | Fog |
| 17:32.56 | Rallion | I would just go with Radio, myself. |
| 17:33.12 | Thrae | AceComm is an embeddable library which depends on AceEvent. |
| 17:33.12 | Kirov | CalmSea |
| 17:33.26 | AnduinLothar | that's irrelevent Thrae |
| 17:33.37 | AnduinLothar | Cosmos uses no embeddible libs |
| 17:33.42 | AnduinLothar | they're all shared |
| 17:34.23 | Thrae | So just embedd them in the main Cosmos addon. |
| 17:34.33 | AnduinLothar | there is no main Cosmos addon |
| 17:35.02 | AnduinLothar | there's Khaos, the main config system, but it has 4 or 5 dependancies |
| 17:35.22 | AnduinLothar | anyway, I'm not discussing this |
| 17:35.26 | AnduinLothar | looking for a name |
| 17:36.21 | Kirov | TheSongOfSmallWavesLappingOnARockyBeachComm |
| 17:37.43 | AnduinLothar | Intel |
| 17:38.33 | AnduinLothar | Colloquial |
| 17:38.41 | Kirov | lol |
| 17:38.42 | Kirov | Intel |
| 17:38.53 | Kirov | Then you can say your mods have Intel Inside |
| 17:38.59 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 17:39.12 | AnduinLothar | GabFest |
| 17:39.19 | Cide | Thrae: obviously he doesn't want to use ace; no need to try to force it upon him |
| 17:39.19 | AnduinLothar | Gossip |
| 17:39.51 | AnduinLothar | hmmm, that sounds familiar Cide ;) |
| 17:39.51 | Cide | Chatter? ;) |
| 17:40.02 | AnduinLothar | Discourse |
| 17:40.10 | Kirov | Intercourse |
| 17:40.18 | Kirov | get a lot more downloads |
| 17:40.34 | Cide | Blabber! |
| 17:40.37 | AnduinLothar | Palaver |
| 17:40.47 | Thrae | Cide: I wasn't forcing him. He said it wouldn't work, I disagree. That's all. If he just said "I don't want to use Ace just because", then there'd be no point arguing (though I'd still wonder why) |
| 17:40.49 | AnduinLothar | Exchange |
| 17:40.51 | Cide | and yes, I've taken the same standpoint before |
| 17:41.12 | AnduinLothar | I already said why |
| 17:41.15 | krka | way too many lib-religions here |
| 17:41.29 | Cide | let's just say we're multi-cultural :P |
| 17:41.32 | krka | if everyone could just get along and just use mine stuff... |
| 17:41.41 | Cide | yep. let's use krka's stuff |
| 17:42.03 | AnduinLothar | I have no problem using it in a standalone mod, but It's not going in Cosmos because it's been a long held tradition to use commmon standard so that we aren't duplicating code |
| 17:42.11 | Kirov | lets all just use CTRA_AddMessage and be done with it |
| 17:42.22 | Cide | CT_RaidAssist2:QueueChatMessage! |
| 17:42.27 | Kirov | hehe |
| 17:43.13 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: You said the libs would have duplicate functions and couldn't embedd properly into Khaos, I disagree. |
| 17:43.27 | AnduinLothar | i didn't say they couldn't |
| 17:43.39 | AnduinLothar | I said I wouldn't |
| 17:43.41 | Thrae | Due to the way the Ace2 libs are split up, unlike Ace, it's not too hard to avoid code duplication, especially if you were just going to use AceComm. |
| 17:43.51 | Thrae | Alright. |
| 17:44.02 | krka | ace2 looks cool, especially the OO |
| 17:44.11 | AnduinLothar | Khaos doesn't even use chat comm, it'd be silly to embed it there |
| 17:45.04 | AnduinLothar | Symposium |
| 17:45.12 | Thrae | I was talking about Khaos as the whole package, not the "Khaos" addon. Embedded libs can be put as a separate dependency. |
| 17:45.47 | AnduinLothar | I don't think you grasp how Cosmos works |
| 17:46.52 | Thrae | An addon either has a library as a dependency, a dependency that has multiple libraries, or the library is embedded. |
| 17:47.17 | AnduinLothar | no no, not the technical side |
| 17:50.33 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Whenever I mention Ace2 to you, I'm not trying to say "Wow wtf Ace2 rockzors Cosmos", I just think addon development should be centralized as much as possible, especially for complex issues like server communication. |
| 17:50.50 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 17:51.01 | AnduinLothar | stop reading me back my own bullshit |
| 17:52.00 | Gryphen | The Cosmos devs thought that too, but people wanted to centralize their own stuff :p |
| 17:53.06 | Tain | hehe well.. centralize your own stuff isn't really centralizing. |
| 17:54.18 | *** join/#wowi-lounge krka (i=krka@c80-216-102-253.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 17:54.34 | Gryphen | poor wording, use a tad of imagination for the real meaning |
| 17:54.40 | AnduinLothar | Cosmos WAS the central hub. And people decided they wanted to make their own... I never head anyone vollenteer to help us rewrite and libs |
| 17:54.42 | Gryphen | I know you can |
| 17:55.26 | krka | well... sometimes the whole design of a lib is so fundamentally different from what you have in mind it's no use trying to change it |
| 17:55.33 | krka | easier to make your own |
| 17:55.34 | Tain | No no, no imagination. Real meaning is good for me. |
| 17:55.50 | krka | mostly since people tend to be protective of their own code |
| 17:55.52 | krka | myself included |
| 17:55.58 | AnduinLothar | krka, why do you think I'm trying to rewrite sky.. |
| 17:56.17 | Thrae | I use Thottbot's obsfucator on my code. |
| 17:56.19 | Osagasu | Uh ohs, latest alpha is borked. |
| 17:56.44 | Osagasu | cosmos alpha. *cough* |
| 17:57.05 | AnduinLothar | thanks osa, that bug report is VERY descriptive |
| 17:57.16 | Osagasu | heh. |
| 17:57.25 | Osagasu | To be honest, I don't know what I'm looking at |
| 17:58.30 | Kirkburn | A computer screen, one would think |
| 17:58.31 | Osagasu | I have 20 seperate breaks listed, Chat Time staps isn't showing up, Chatbar is missing, Khaos is cauing a number of bugs when I open the window.. |
| 17:59.06 | Osagasu | All of them are breaking trying to call "hook" |
| 17:59.13 | Osagasu | Well, most. |
| 17:59.28 | AnduinLothar | did you update Sea |
| 17:59.47 | Thrae | Osagasu: Download BugSack from wowi, it lets you capture multiple errors, so you can try tracing the errors or just paste 'em. |
| 17:59.50 | AnduinLothar | delete the Sea folder and redownload it |
| 17:59.57 | Thrae | <3 BugSack |
| 18:00.01 | AnduinLothar | IEF is in Cosmos |
| 18:00.03 | Gryphen | Cosmos comes with IEF |
| 18:00.13 | Thrae | IEF captures multiple errors? |
| 18:00.16 | Gryphen | yes |
| 18:00.22 | Thrae | OK then, nevermind. |
| 18:00.26 | Osagasu | 19 errors before I open the Khaos window, 20-something after. |
| 18:00.34 | AnduinLothar | yeah see, this makes me think you've never even used Cosmos thrae |
| 18:00.51 | Thrae | That's not true, Cosmos was my first addon! |
| 18:01.00 | Rallion | Mine too! |
| 18:01.05 | Gryphen | IEF has always been there, always capturing multiple errors |
| 18:01.05 | Osagasu | It was mine too. Then I stopped using it because my compy was crap. |
| 18:01.07 | Thrae | About...1.8 years ago |
| 18:01.24 | Osagasu | Anduin here dared me to try it again, so I did. |
| 18:01.47 | Gryphen | I dare you to send me $100 |
| 18:01.51 | Tain | IEF wasn't there when I tried Cosmos! |
| 18:01.55 | AnduinLothar | we've had IEF since like beta... |
| 18:02.23 | AnduinLothar | ok, well at least when they implimented addons |
| 18:02.28 | Thrae | Then I switched to Insomniax due to UI problems with Cosmos + Discord, then just my own collection from there. |
| 18:02.45 | Tain | Of course my reasons for not using (I have no opinion of the technical details or functionality of Cosmos) is th esame as with any compilations. |
| 18:02.50 | AnduinLothar | so um, yeah, that was way before Khaos |
| 18:03.15 | Gryphen | FrameXML days heh |
| 18:03.18 | Thrae | I downloaded Khaos once and poked around its code. |
| 18:03.26 | AnduinLothar | oi |
| 18:03.29 | AnduinLothar | not pretty code |
| 18:03.57 | Osagasu | code, by definition, isn't pretty. |
| 18:04.01 | Thrae | Then I said "screw it, I'm not going to try Ace'ing this" ;) |
| 18:04.02 | Tain | Not true! |
| 18:04.07 | AnduinLothar | nah, my code's pretty to me :D |
| 18:04.16 | Tain | Much code is very pretty. |
| 18:04.23 | Tain | Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and all that. |
| 18:04.30 | Osagasu | Okay , AL... What the HELL did you change to make a full delete necessary? |
| 18:04.43 | AnduinLothar | nah, Earth needs to be rewritten before you can do much in the way of changing the way Khaos is formatted |
| 18:04.46 | Osagasu | That's what I wanna know |
| 18:04.50 | Gryphen | It isn't |
| 18:05.01 | Gryphen | Well, isn't supposed to be |
| 18:05.12 | Osagasu | Hm. |
| 18:05.18 | Osagasu | ChatBar is still missing. |
| 18:05.26 | AnduinLothar | mmm i reformatted the whole thing :) |
| 18:05.37 | AnduinLothar | but it should have updated fine.. |
| 18:06.10 | Kaso | if in my OnEvent i set event="" or something how will the other addons who've registered that also react |
| 18:06.23 | Osagasu | I don't use the patcher |
| 18:06.29 | Osagasu | I download and extract. |
| 18:06.34 | AnduinLothar | O.o |
| 18:06.42 | Thrae | Kaso: Why would you ever need to do that? That's so evil it's insane. |
| 18:06.50 | Osagasu | IE I download the alpha once daily off the site. |
| 18:06.56 | Osagasu | well, almost. |
| 18:07.05 | Kirkburn | Why? :/ |
| 18:07.20 | Thrae | Kaso: Do local event = event in your OnEvent if you want to do weird crap like that. |
| 18:07.23 | Kirkburn | You keep a clean addon folder I hope |
| 18:07.27 | Osagasu | Because I hate those things. |
| 18:07.32 | Kaso | well i want to stop events reacting to RAID_ROSTER so i can juggle groups around without the lag |
| 18:07.56 | Osagasu | I understand their use, but I LIKE personally downloading all my addons. |
| 18:08.04 | AnduinLothar | Thrae, did you not quit wow when you updated? |
| 18:08.06 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 18:08.08 | AnduinLothar | Osa* |
| 18:08.08 | Kirkburn | Do you keep a clean addon folder though? |
| 18:08.18 | Gryphen | Well if you do it manually, you need to make sure to watch for changes |
| 18:08.36 | Gryphen | Especially daily |
| 18:09.32 | AnduinLothar | so um.. did we come up witha good name? |
| 18:09.39 | Osagasu | Probably user error. didn't highlight something I should have |
| 18:09.46 | Kirkburn | And especially if some files need deleting between updates |
| 18:10.04 | *** join/#wowi-lounge esp|Syn (n=ben@comsecgb.plus.com) |
| 18:10.11 | Thrae | Kaso: No easy way to do that, since events are processed in the order of registration I believe. |
| 18:10.13 | Gryphen | Telecom |
| 18:10.22 | AnduinLothar | Blather |
| 18:10.41 | Kaso | i'll just have to register mine first then! :> |
| 18:10.43 | Hexarobee | Blatherinblatherskite |
| 18:10.44 | AnduinLothar | Discourse |
| 18:11.27 | AnduinLothar | Parlay |
| 18:11.56 | Hexarobee | theyre more guidelines than rules |
| 18:11.59 | Rallion | it's thesaurus time! |
| 18:12.11 | Hexarobee | whats the addon do? |
| 18:12.18 | AnduinLothar | Sky rewrite |
| 18:12.51 | AnduinLothar | GlobalComm + whisper chat + SendAddonChat management |
| 18:12.53 | Cairenn | Chatter |
| 18:13.08 | Cairenn | ChitChat |
| 18:13.14 | Cairenn | Gossip |
| 18:13.29 | AnduinLothar | :) [10:39] <AnduinLothar>Gossip |
| 18:13.30 | Cairenn | Rumor |
| 18:13.55 | Rallion | i like RUmor |
| 18:13.56 | AnduinLothar | mm, dont want it to be confused with chatting |
| 18:14.30 | Osagasu | *cough* |
| 18:14.34 | Osagasu | What do I do about Chat Bar? |
| 18:14.35 | AnduinLothar | Rumor sounds kinda bad and not quite secretive enough |
| 18:14.39 | Rallion | Propoganda |
| 18:14.42 | Osagasu | Delete the variables? |
| 18:14.43 | Rallion | heh |
| 18:14.47 | Cairenn | that sounds even worse |
| 18:14.49 | AnduinLothar | did you delete and redownload it? |
| 18:14.58 | Tain | RuPaul? |
| 18:15.04 | Osagasu | Chatbar was messing up before I updated. |
| 18:15.10 | AnduinLothar | how so? |
| 18:15.15 | Osagasu | Its not showing up |
| 18:15.25 | AnduinLothar | did you drag it off screen? |
| 18:15.44 | Osagasu | I don't think I did. |
| 18:15.46 | Cide | Kaso: you don't want to do that |
| 18:15.52 | Kaso | Whynot? |
| 18:16.06 | Cide | Kaso: CT_RaidAssist2 would not register the group changes at all, for example |
| 18:16.10 | Hexarobee | Clairvoyance |
| 18:16.11 | *** join/#wowi-lounge spadool (n=10315027@p548348B6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:16.16 | spadool | hello |
| 18:16.20 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.28 | Thrae | Kaso: Only way I can think of is iterating over EnumerateFrames and unregister the event from every frame you find. |
| 18:16.38 | spadool | hello there .. i want to create a very simple script |
| 18:17.11 | Osagasu | Hm. |
| 18:17.13 | spadool | as /assist just presses the attack button every half a second as long the target exists i want to do the same with a spell of my choice .. can you help me ? |
| 18:17.16 | Osagasu | Well there's a sight. |
| 18:17.36 | Thrae | Kaso: There's no way to make sure your addon registers for the event before any other addon 100%, but if you register at top (file) scope you'll probably get it 90% of the time |
| 18:17.37 | Osagasu | Paladin: 5/8 Judgement. 2/8 Lawbringer. All sorts of other epics. |
| 18:17.43 | Osagasu | aaaand.... LIGHTFORGE BREASTPLATE! |
| 18:18.05 | Rallion | hehe |
| 18:18.20 | Thrae | Also, I'm not sure on the order of events being pushed out. It might be more arbitrary. Does anyone know what order events are pushed out? |
| 18:18.28 | AnduinLothar | i didn't get my LF chest till after i had my LB |
| 18:18.36 | Thrae | I've always thought they were in the order of registration. |
| 18:18.41 | AnduinLothar | that damn thing does NOT drop |
| 18:19.12 | AnduinLothar | i'm pretty sure it's order of registration |
| 18:19.16 | AnduinLothar | in fact i bank on it |
| 18:19.42 | AnduinLothar | IsCasting's events ALWAYS process before addons that use it |
| 18:20.10 | Thrae | I thought I remember Iriel saying something about it, but it was probably from how to register for an event before any other addon (impossible to do 100%) |
| 18:21.05 | spadool | hmmmm... its just a very small script .. /script if(UnitExists("target") then CastSpellByName("Claw");return; end ??? |
| 18:21.26 | spadool | it wont work ( i am no programmer just need a push-roboter for my attack |
| 18:21.35 | Thrae | spadool: /script if UnitExists("target") then CastSpellByName("Claw") end |
| 18:22.18 | AnduinLothar | hmmm... what about comm words relating to spys... |
| 18:22.35 | AnduinLothar | Untracable |
| 18:22.56 | AnduinLothar | SpyCam |
| 18:22.59 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 18:23.00 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Incognito |
| 18:23.02 | AnduinLothar | SpyComm |
| 18:23.10 | AnduinLothar | mmm, not comm related |
| 18:23.24 | Cide | Stream? :P |
| 18:23.24 | AnduinLothar | Wire |
| 18:23.34 | Thrae | WireTap |
| 18:23.58 | AnduinLothar | Wired |
| 18:24.07 | Rallion | Spystream or Spywire both sound nice to me |
| 18:24.15 | AnduinLothar | spyware lol |
| 18:24.26 | spadool | . |
| 18:24.30 | Rallion | okay, forget spywire. |
| 18:24.36 | Thrae | Tapem |
| 18:24.49 | AnduinLothar | ChatTap |
| 18:24.53 | Thrae | HiddenMic |
| 18:24.57 | Tain | Echelon |
| 18:24.58 | krka | Bond |
| 18:25.00 | spadool | . /script if UnitExists("target") then CastSpellByName("Claw") end just hits the enemy one time .. i need it to REPEAT |
| 18:25.05 | Thrae | Oooo I know! |
| 18:25.09 | Hexarobee | what was the name of the crew nixon used in the watergate breakin? |
| 18:25.09 | Thrae | ShoePhone |
| 18:25.18 | Hexarobee | nice |
| 18:25.19 | Rallion | spadool, you can't have more than one spell with a single buttonpress |
| 18:25.19 | AnduinLothar | shoePhone, lol |
| 18:25.27 | Tain | I dunno, but naming it DeepThroat would be good too. |
| 18:25.36 | Hexarobee | NixonBot |
| 18:25.46 | AnduinLothar | TwoWayWristVideoPhone |
| 18:25.51 | Thrae | spadool: You mean cast more then 1 claw in a row with 1 button press? |
| 18:25.52 | Hexarobee | i just like the idea of robo-nixon |
| 18:26.01 | AnduinLothar | DeepThroat lol |
| 18:26.14 | spadool | does this apply do addons too ? |
| 18:26.19 | krka | yes |
| 18:26.21 | Thrae | DeepThrottle |
| 18:26.28 | krka | FullThrottle |
| 18:26.40 | AnduinLothar | repeating spells requires user input |
| 18:26.42 | Hexarobee | DeepThought |
| 18:26.59 | spadool | so it does not matter to use macro or a addon it wont work .. |
| 18:26.59 | spadool | ? |
| 18:27.00 | AnduinLothar | Infomercial |
| 18:27.03 | Thrae | spadool: No, addons cannot cast more then 1 spell unless the spell does not use up the global cooldown (like Cold Blood, Tiger's Fury, Presence of Mind, Nature's Swiftness, etc.) |
| 18:27.04 | krka | for those who've read the Ender books: Jane |
| 18:27.24 | Thrae | spadool: And macros have the same rescrictions as addons. |
| 18:27.24 | AnduinLothar | i've read them and it still took me a while :P |
| 18:27.37 | AnduinLothar | CanYouHearMeDave |
| 18:27.39 | spadool | . what about /assist it does repeat |
| 18:27.51 | AnduinLothar | it's hard coded |
| 18:27.51 | Thrae | spadool: Assist is not a spell, is it? |
| 18:27.59 | AnduinLothar | that too |
| 18:28.14 | Thrae | ConeOfSilence |
| 18:28.18 | Thrae | ConeOfChatiness |
| 18:28.31 | AnduinLothar | Whisper |
| 18:28.33 | AnduinLothar | InEar |
| 18:28.49 | Thrae | InEarSky :D |
| 18:28.50 | AnduinLothar | YourEarsOnly |
| 18:29.13 | Hexarobee | Babelfish |
| 18:29.13 | Rallion | Omniscience |
| 18:29.23 | AnduinLothar | lol bablefish's is used liek 3x over |
| 18:29.40 | Gryphen | ETPhoneHome |
| 18:29.47 | Rallion | ETPhoneHoooome |
| 18:29.47 | AnduinLothar | ListeningDevice |
| 18:29.52 | spadool | can i enhance /assist ? |
| 18:29.58 | AnduinLothar | not really |
| 18:30.00 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Karen@CPE00045a2bfcbc-CM000f212f84be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:30.05 | Rallion | spadool: there's no legal way to do what you want |
| 18:30.05 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 18:30.06 | Thrae | spadool: What do you want to do to it? |
| 18:30.10 | AnduinLothar | Password |
| 18:30.31 | Hexarobee | GoldFactory |
| 18:30.42 | spadool | i want |
| 18:30.43 | Tain | TwisedPair |
| 18:30.43 | Hexarobee | people would click a name like that |
| 18:30.48 | Gryphen | StringedTinCans |
| 18:31.02 | AnduinLothar | CellPhone |
| 18:31.07 | Hexarobee | Telepathy |
| 18:31.11 | AnduinLothar | oo |
| 18:31.14 | Thrae | ~CrypticChat, CrypticSky, CrypticNotes |
| 18:31.23 | krka | Biblefish |
| 18:31.24 | AnduinLothar | i like telepathy |
| 18:31.29 | Rallion | I think Password would be awesome, but it might confuse some people to see things like "Requires password" |
| 18:31.35 | Hexarobee | =) |
| 18:31.40 | AnduinLothar | ya password is good too |
| 18:31.41 | spadool | ok .. when i attack the enemy /assist attacks every half a second .. so i want a spell be casted repeatedly too ... |
| 18:31.44 | Gryphen | telepathy++ |
| 18:31.44 | krka | MumboJumbo |
| 18:31.58 | krka | Schizophrenia |
| 18:32.05 | AnduinLothar | PassWord |
| 18:32.12 | Hexarobee | Empathy |
| 18:32.25 | krka | Bigmouth |
| 18:32.27 | krka | Mouthful |
| 18:32.28 | spadool | so the addon just needs to look if i do attack .. and then repeatedly cast a spell with a certain delay |
| 18:32.38 | AnduinLothar | cant do that |
| 18:32.41 | spadool | ??? |
| 18:32.49 | AnduinLothar | spell required keyboard or mouse input |
| 18:32.51 | Cairenn | what he said |
| 18:32.55 | Rallion | spadool: there's STILL no legal way to do what you want. |
| 18:32.56 | Hexarobee | every spell cast must coincide with a keypress |
| 18:33.03 | spadool | oh man |
| 18:33.10 | spadool | oh man oh man |
| 18:33.11 | spadool | :) |
| 18:33.13 | spadool | thank you |
| 18:33.15 | krka | that's the single most asked question |
| 18:33.20 | krka | o |
| 18:33.23 | Hexarobee | cuz its a silly limit |
| 18:33.24 | krka | i've even asked it myself :P |
| 18:33.27 | spadool | give me time to cry a bit |
| 18:33.29 | krka | nah, not silly |
| 18:33.35 | spadool | bu hu |
| 18:33.48 | spadool | ok .. but thanks for your help anyway |
| 18:34.09 | Thrae | spadool: Check out FeralSkills if you haven't already |
| 18:34.15 | AnduinLothar | PasswordSharing |
| 18:34.21 | spadool | feralskills ? |
| 18:34.24 | AnduinLothar | BitTorrent |
| 18:34.35 | Hexarobee | ThatsNotAKnifeThisIsAKnife |
| 18:34.40 | spadool | be more precise about that .. i have no clue what you are talking about |
| 18:34.49 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4594 |
| 18:34.50 | AnduinLothar | it's an addon |
| 18:34.56 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.58 | Thrae | spadool: From your macro I can tell you have a Druid, FeralSkills addon combines different Feral actions into 4 buttons. |
| 18:35.18 | AnduinLothar | PassBits |
| 18:35.25 | AnduinLothar | ABitPast |
| 18:35.29 | Thrae | It's my only Khaos addon ;) |
| 18:35.32 | Hexarobee | you can press 1 button 3 times to cast 3 different spells |
| 18:35.43 | Cairenn | just go to the link :p |
| 18:35.57 | AnduinLothar | WireByte |
| 18:36.25 | spadool | hey one question .. is it possible to reach everlook with level 30 ? |
| 18:36.26 | Rallion | i just looked at a price tag and thought it said "OH NOES" |
| 18:36.32 | krka | ALinkToThePast |
| 18:36.38 | AnduinLothar | Telepathy... |
| 18:36.40 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:36.44 | Rallion | anything is POSSIBLE. |
| 18:36.50 | Thrae | spadool: If you corpse pull, yes |
| 18:36.56 | Hexarobee | Cerebro |
| 18:36.58 | Rallion | but I don't know why you'd want to, actually |
| 18:36.59 | spadool | corpse pull means what ? |
| 18:37.06 | AnduinLothar | corpse run* |
| 18:37.17 | spadool | ahh.. i did that .. was quite a thrill |
| 18:37.25 | Thrae | spadool: Everytime you die and ressurect, the mobs take a little while to detect your presence. So you can keep dying and keep rezzing a little bit from where you last died. |
| 18:37.32 | spadool | now i do have access to the neutral auction house .. what a party :) |
| 18:37.59 | Rallion | there's a neutral AH in Booty Bay |
| 18:38.01 | Rallion | and Tanaris |
| 18:38.08 | Thrae | spadool: The Neutral Auction House is also in Booty Bay (a level 34+ zone) and Gadget in Tanaris (a level 42+ zone) |
| 18:38.11 | Rallion | and those are WAY easier to get to |
| 18:38.16 | Hexarobee | werd |
| 18:38.21 | spadool | but longer way |
| 18:38.30 | Rallion | are you horde or alliance? |
| 18:38.30 | spadool | flight route ! |
| 18:38.38 | spadool | elfe of course |
| 18:38.43 | Rallion | ...of course. |
| 18:38.47 | spadool | ja |
| 18:38.47 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 18:38.50 | spadool | :) |
| 18:38.55 | AnduinLothar | Telepathy is is |
| 18:38.59 | Hexarobee | whoot |
| 18:39.04 | AnduinLothar | it |
| 18:39.06 | AnduinLothar | is |
| 18:39.09 | AnduinLothar | is it |
| 18:39.12 | Hexarobee | haha |
| 18:39.22 | AnduinLothar | RGLKRGBUARBUISGBUIAGBASDUONO |
| 18:39.26 | AnduinLothar | better now |
| 18:39.26 | Thrae | spadool: If you're a Druid, I suggest binding yourself to IF until Level 40, then Theramore until level 50, then back to IF |
| 18:40.11 | spadool | hey all this abrevations .. ... IF means what ? |
| 18:40.16 | Thrae | Teleport: Moonglade can be easily used to get those pesky zones at the top corners of Kalimdor |
| 18:40.21 | Thrae | Ironforge... |
| 18:40.44 | spadool | so why wont the people call ironforge |
| 18:40.45 | spadool | iron |
| 18:40.47 | spadool | and stormwind |
| 18:40.48 | spadool | storm |
| 18:40.54 | spadool | so everybody understands ! |
| 18:41.11 | spadool | :) ok sorry for the spam |
| 18:41.43 | AnduinLothar | if wtf |
| 18:41.57 | AnduinLothar | ftw |
| 18:42.02 | AnduinLothar | damn keyboard |
| 18:42.15 | Rallion | wtf ftw. |
| 18:42.18 | spadool | what is the abrevation for druid ? |
| 18:42.23 | AnduinLothar | druid |
| 18:42.39 | Thrae | Dead. |
| 18:43.41 | spadool | hmm the germans call him dudu |
| 18:43.41 | Rallion | druids never die. |
| 18:43.58 | spadool | ok i play my druid for about 8 days now |
| 18:43.59 | Thrae | Rallion: Unless they try to kill something in PvP ;) |
| 18:44.21 | spadool | i wonder why you can not specialize on one animal ... i never use the bear .. the cat is far better |
| 18:44.40 | Thrae | spadool: You can with talents and gear. |
| 18:44.54 | Thrae | And Bear becomes insanely useful when you hit Level 40 and gain Dire Bear form. |
| 18:45.00 | AnduinLothar | a pally can kill a mage with gear.. |
| 18:45.08 | Rallion | So, I know the answer to this, but I'm asking anyway, there's no way to check if a texture is valid, right? |
| 18:45.14 | AnduinLothar | is the mage has none on that is |
| 18:45.18 | Rallion | lol |
| 18:45.20 | AnduinLothar | if* |
| 18:45.20 | spadool | hmm but only a bit ... if they designers would have left out the bear the druid would be far more powerfull |
| 18:45.33 | Rallion | sigh. |
| 18:45.46 | AnduinLothar | drood is for tank |
| 18:46.03 | spadool | hmmm.. and why does a warrior fighting as an animal need strong range attack ?? |
| 18:46.21 | AnduinLothar | for pulling, duh |
| 18:46.30 | spadool | ahh .. you can use fairy fire for that |
| 18:46.35 | Kirkburn | I'm hoping this page gets more content soon :/ http://www.wowwiki.com/Meridian |
| 18:46.48 | spadool | i am a purist .. only use .. what realy is needed:) |
| 18:47.28 | AnduinLothar | MOONFIRE SPAM! |
| 18:47.37 | spadool | so i reached the neutral auction house .. and was eager what the horde has to sell .. but on my server there are only about 35 items traded right now ... so i realy was disappointed .. |
| 18:50.12 | spadool | i like the pet thing .. like the parrots and cats |
| 18:50.42 | AnduinLothar | so i used ECastingBar for the first time yesterday in aq20 and was fairly impressed |
| 18:52.50 | Hexarobee | any cockroaches for sale spa? |
| 18:52.58 | spadool | for how much can i sell the tiny crimson welpling ? |
| 18:55.28 | AnduinLothar | so... we can't get user lists on the SendAddonMessage channels... |
| 18:55.31 | AnduinLothar | that sucks |
| 18:55.41 | Shadowed | why would you need to? |
| 18:55.41 | AnduinLothar | actually |
| 18:55.44 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 18:55.47 | AnduinLothar | nm me |
| 18:55.53 | AnduinLothar | well |
| 18:55.56 | Shadowed | You'd probably want to know version anyway |
| 18:56.06 | AnduinLothar | just means that everyone's in it and not only people who have the lib |
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| 19:20.09 | Thrae | Anyone have a good reference for the oddities of the Combat Log events? |
| 19:30.10 | Rallion | hmm...time to figure out how to best add keyring buttons |
| 19:58.30 | Kaso | Thrae like this ? http://www.wowwiki.com/Patterns_fired_from_each_CHAT_MSG_events |
| 20:00.26 | Thrae | Kaso: Hmmm that's extremely useful. Thanks! |
| 20:00.39 | Kaso | thank whoever made it :> |
| 20:01.34 | Thrae | I thank Rophy...even though I'm making a lib from stratch that does exactly what his ParserLib does ;) |
| 20:01.50 | AnduinLothar | why? |
| 20:02.44 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: His ParserLib is a little bit of a beast, my version uses AceEvent-2.0 and Deformat-2.0 for a heck of a lot better cache'ing and reduces the overall resource usage by 50%. |
| 20:03.10 | AnduinLothar | why not just modify his and sumbit it to him? |
| 20:03.39 | Thrae | Because AceEvent and Deformat compromise 70% of what his lib does by itself. |
| 20:04.10 | AnduinLothar | why is this a problem? |
| 20:04.15 | Thrae | The rest is really trivial, I'm not sure how better to optimize this lib other then using those two existing libs. |
| 20:04.34 | Mikk | Thrae: Quick intro on how you can get data out of your version? |
| 20:04.37 | krka | AnduinLothar, you always keep suggestion modify and submit... that's not always reasonable |
| 20:05.04 | Mikk | Do you just register for a bunch of damage types? |
| 20:05.10 | AnduinLothar | but did you even talk to him first? |
| 20:05.12 | Thrae | Heh, AnduinLothar has a point, I was the one saying he should help development on AceComm instead of rewriting Sky ;) |
| 20:05.51 | Thrae | Mikk: No, people register for the lib's own custom events through AceEvent. |
| 20:06.20 | Mikk | Erhm yeah that's what I meant |
| 20:06.26 | Mikk | But those events are like ... one per hit/spell? |
| 20:06.34 | krka | imo, a handful if different implementations is only good |
| 20:07.02 | krka | some diversity helps getting better code |
| 20:07.04 | Thrae | The lib only registers for the corresponding events, each of which represent one or more patterns |
| 20:07.12 | Thrae | Mikk: Exactly |
| 20:07.30 | Mikk | I was just thinking that maybe there'd be a point to having a common aggregator also |
| 20:07.34 | Mikk | Not everything wants details |
| 20:07.48 | Mikk | Not necessarily the same lib. Could be another lib. |
| 20:08.10 | Thrae | Mikk: Hmm, what do you mean? |
| 20:08.40 | Mikk | Well.. there's a bunch of applications that really only want summary-type info |
| 20:08.47 | Mikk | Damage done over a fight, for instance |
| 20:09.14 | Mikk | Hrmphs.. I had a nice list in my head the other day. Can't think of good examples right now |
| 20:09.39 | Thrae | string.find is pretty damn fast already, it wouldn't hurt too much to give two returns instead of 1 |
| 20:09.52 | Thrae | Mikk: That gets complicated when you have names with numbers in them |
| 20:10.04 | Mikk | o.O |
| 20:10.06 | Mikk | Names with numbers? |
| 20:10.36 | Thrae | When we're talking localized string.find, you don't know if the damage will be second or the name will be second |
| 20:10.51 | Thrae | Yes, there are a few mobs with numbers in their names, as well as a group of items |
| 20:11.13 | Mikk | I wonder if we're talking about the same thing |
| 20:11.23 | Mikk | (Yes, I do know the problem you're describing. I just don't see how it applies =)) |
| 20:11.41 | Mikk | Your lib does: |
| 20:11.42 | Thrae | You're talking about just pulling the damage out of a msg instead of pulling out both the target and damage, right? |
| 20:11.59 | Mikk | nono |
| 20:12.07 | Mikk | I' |
| 20:12.27 | Thrae | Haha, laptop / small keyboard? |
| 20:12.34 | Mikk | Fat ring finger :-P |
| 20:13.21 | Mikk | Ok... I was thinking that there was several applications that really only want to know how much healing one person has done. how much healing one person has received. how much damage some person has done... etc |
| 20:13.31 | Mikk | If all these applications receive all the events in real time.... |
| 20:13.38 | Mikk | There's a lot of double processing |
| 20:13.57 | Mikk | They all just sit around aggregating the same data |
| 20:14.24 | zenzelezz | doh... Hakkar at 5%, 15 seconds from drain, and he goes into berserker rage |
| 20:14.50 | Mikk | I was thinking that there might be benefits from having a central aggregator that multiple addons can query a lot more often |
| 20:15.02 | Mikk | I.e. basically the data backend of recap/damagemeters |
| 20:15.03 | Thrae | Yeah, that wouldn't be a job for a lib, that would be a job for a better version of Recap / DamageMeters / SWStats, so people don't need to have more then one of these addons. |
| 20:15.23 | Thrae | I don't know how it'd be applicable outside of these addons |
| 20:15.24 | Mikk | Except not really |
| 20:15.24 | Shadowed | You don't have any reason to run DM / SWStats at the same time though |
| 20:15.40 | Mikk | I run damagemeters and recap at the same time :-P |
| 20:15.48 | Mikk | DM because it's real time. Recap because it has more detail. |
| 20:15.58 | Kirov | same |
| 20:16.05 | Tain | I liked Recap for my own detailed combat information. |
| 20:16.11 | Tain | I never wanted to collect anyone elses with it. |
| 20:16.14 | Mikk | Anyway... there's more addons that want this sort of info to |
| 20:16.15 | Shadowed | SWStats is real time too |
| 20:16.20 | Thrae | I was thinking of working on a DamageMeters / Recap replacement using the lib, or adding sync data into Recap |
| 20:16.21 | Mikk | Except I can't bloody remember what they are right now. |
| 20:16.25 | Kirov | I use recap to watch other people. |
| 20:16.29 | Thrae | Separating it out into LoadOnDemand modules. |
| 20:17.06 | Mikk | We were talking about a bunch of addons the other day that also want fight summary data |
| 20:17.11 | Mikk | Not recap/DM type addons |
| 20:17.31 | Thrae | Hmmm, msybe CT_RaidAssist uses it for something. |
| 20:17.35 | Thrae | *maybe |
| 20:17.45 | Mikk | Ohyeah... An addon to stat dtps/htps for raid tanks |
| 20:18.25 | Rallion | Tain: That's what i liked about Recap, too |
| 20:18.36 | Mikk | This lib wouldn't replace recap, DM's data backend, not really... |
| 20:18.39 | Tain | Hmmm.. maybe I'll jump in early and write an addon to manage your World of Warcraft Collectible Trading Cards collections. |
| 20:18.44 | Mikk | It's just a temporary data aggregator that saves some double work |
| 20:18.59 | Shadowed | You still have the hardest part of the whole thing |
| 20:19.02 | Shadowed | getting people to use it |
| 20:19.03 | Mikk | Like... fire an event once in a while that it's about to flush its table |
| 20:19.17 | Mikk | We're talking like once every 1s/2s or something |
| 20:19.25 | Mikk | 3s perhaps |
| 20:19.47 | Tain | OF course if you're collecting combat stats be sure you're increasing your log collection range |
| 20:20.12 | Mikk | Shadowed: *sigh* yeah... pardon me for dreaming :-P |
| 20:20.23 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 20:20.53 | Thrae | Best way to get people to use it is to make a PoC version of Recap w/ sync capabilities. |
| 20:23.14 | Thrae | Hmmm I had this as a table lookup in this function, but since the function won't be used very often I think 40 elseif's are better then a static table. |
| 20:24.33 | Rallion | is that really any smaller? |
| 20:25.11 | Thrae | It's a 40-element table with 20% of its elements as tables vs 40 elseifs |
| 20:25.18 | Thrae | And the table is only used by this one function. |
| 20:25.52 | Rallion | I wish there was an easy way to check the memory footprint of tables or functions |
| 20:25.53 | Thrae | Just a RegisterEvent / UnregisterEvent function, which shouldn't be called --too-- often. |
| 20:27.18 | Thrae | Actually wait, someone might do something stupid. |
| 20:27.27 | Rallion | ..."might"? |
| 20:28.15 | Rallion | heh when I'm writing functions as parts of standalone apps, I try to assume that even I'm going to use them wrong. |
| 20:32.25 | Cide | Thrae: CTRA using what for what? |
| 20:32.48 | Thrae | Cide: Total Healing, HPS, Total Damage, DPS |
| 20:33.12 | Cide | CTRA doesn't use that (or calculate it), no |
| 20:34.08 | Thrae | Mikk was saying that addons other then Recap and DamageMeters-type addons might use those figures, but I can't think of any. |
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| 22:07.42 | Iriel|working | Rallion : The memory footprint of both is fairly well understood |
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| 22:21.56 | Kirkburn | grrr, FF is annoying me |
| 22:22.09 | AnduinLothar | rewriting Sky is so much more fun than i expected... |
| 22:22.22 | Kirov | AnduinLothar - you're a sick, sick man |
| 22:22.24 | AnduinLothar | I love deleting hundred on lines of code at a time |
| 22:22.56 | Kirov | using "fun" in reference to a wow custom channel library ... just wrong |
| 22:23.01 | AnduinLothar | i'm like hmmm.. I remember rewriting that JoinChannelByName hook like 6 times ... BAWEETED |
| 22:23.29 | AnduinLothar | 2000 lines of code gone so far |
| 22:23.33 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 22:23.48 | AnduinLothar | and i got rid of that crappy table registration |
| 22:23.59 | AnduinLothar | and the mailboxes |
| 22:24.03 | AnduinLothar | and the hostesses |
| 22:24.04 | cogwheel | kirkburn, what's it doing to you this time? |
| 22:25.00 | Kirkburn | See http://trieste.georgepribul.eu/index.htm |
| 22:25.19 | Kirkburn | It looks perfect in IE, but not FF :/ |
| 22:26.02 | AnduinLothar | ya, camino eats it |
| 22:26.23 | AnduinLothar | host mapping.. BYE BYE! |
| 22:26.44 | Kirkburn | Why get rid of hostesses L( |
| 22:26.45 | AnduinLothar | de-abstracting things from 5 channels to just 1 makes ALL the difference |
| 22:26.58 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 22:27.16 | AnduinLothar | heckk i can do |
| 22:27.17 | AnduinLothar | ar9 == "GlobalComm" |
| 22:27.22 | AnduinLothar | instead of |
| 22:27.29 | AnduinLothar | local channelIdentifier, specifier = SkyChannelManager.convertToChannelIdentifier(arg9); |
| 22:27.41 | AnduinLothar | SkyChannelManager.hostMap[channelIdentifier] |
| 22:28.09 | AnduinLothar | and those channel identifiers make me want to kill babies |
| 22:28.12 | AnduinLothar | BYE BYE! |
| 22:28.58 | Kirkburn | cogwheel, I just don't understand it :/ |
| 22:29.19 | cogwheel | ditto |
| 22:29.46 | cogwheel | no.. i do now... |
| 22:30.06 | AnduinLothar | lot of useful code in here tho... |
| 22:30.16 | AnduinLothar | legacy folder for ju |
| 22:30.19 | cogwheel | i think... |
| 22:31.35 | cogwheel | Floats contained in divs are supposed to overflow out of the divs they're contained in. |
| 22:32.04 | cogwheel | Your .section divs are floating outside the #mainbox |
| 22:33.03 | cogwheel | To test this, after your very last div inside #mainbox, put <p style="clear: both;"> </p> |
| 22:34.28 | Kirkburn | Your a genius |
| 22:34.32 | Kirkburn | *you're |
| 22:34.55 | Kirkburn | It still has weird diaply issues, but less of them |
| 22:34.57 | cogwheel | I just had to deal with all this stuff for my work's website... |
| 22:36.02 | cogwheel | kirkburn check out http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html |
| 22:37.41 | Kirkburn | Why can't it just be sensible :/ |
| 22:44.50 | Abenadi | does GetTime() query the server every time its called? |
| 22:45.03 | Mikk | it has nothing to do with server time |
| 22:45.16 | Mikk | GetTime() is time since your game client started |
| 22:45.56 | Iriel|working | I suspect Abenadi meant GetGameTime |
| 22:46.04 | Iriel|working | and I doubt very much it queries the server every time |
| 22:46.13 | Kirkburn | Yay, it now works in Firefox :D Thanks cogwheel! |
| 22:46.23 | cogwheel | np :) |
| 22:46.35 | Mikk | It can't really query the server, since that would mean a rather substantial delay. |
| 22:46.39 | Mikk | Like 0.3 secs+ |
| 22:46.41 | Kirkburn | Now to try and make a scroll always appear |
| 22:46.46 | Kirkburn | *scrollbar |
| 22:46.56 | Abenadi | thanks, I actually misunderstood wowwiki's explanation of gettime() |
| 22:47.11 | Abenadi | it says the system's uptime, and that made me think server, but that was my mistake |
| 22:47.25 | Abenadi | Iriel gives me too much credit =P |
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| 22:52.16 | Kirkburn | Yay, now i've got an easy fix to make the scrollbar always appear =) |
| 22:52.46 | cogwheel | :( |
| 22:52.57 | cogwheel | I hate websites that have a scrollbar when there's nothing to scroll to |
| 22:52.59 | cogwheel | :P |
| 22:53.30 | Kirkburn | It's a lot better than a website that constantly shifts left and right :/ |
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| 22:55.16 | Kirkburn | Personally, I prefer IE's style of greying it out when not needed |
| 22:56.12 | Iriel|working | Isn't that a waste of screen real-estate tho? |
| 22:56.23 | Iriel|working | Especially for folks working in portrait aspect ratios |
| 22:58.32 | Kirkburn | It's only about 16 pixels, not a huge amount |
| 22:59.16 | Kirkburn | I mean, I realise that it's wasted space, but I find it very disconcerting to have a centered website suddenly shift positions when moving between pages |
| 23:08.19 | cogwheel | Does anyone know if you can use more than the stack size for the quantity to BuyMerchantItem? I can't test at the moment but I want to know if i'll work for http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=425226 |
| 23:15.42 | Kirov | cogwheel - I've actually played with that some |
| 23:16.05 | Kirov | It causes a weird "Your bags are full" error when you try to get multiples of a stackable item. |
| 23:16.21 | cogwheel | Hmmm.... oh well |
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| 23:16.59 | Kirov | At least stackable items already sold in stacks |
| 23:17.32 | Kirov | the Buy functions don't require a hardware event, so I was thinking of writing something small that just did multiple buy calls. |
| 23:17.38 | Kirov | instead of trying to do one |
| 23:19.06 | cogwheel | That might work... |
| 23:27.39 | cogwheel | I think i'll play around with it some more tonight... |
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| 23:56.52 | Kirkburn | Wow, another Starcraft patch ... 1.14 |