| 00:00.09 | Hexarobee | anyone happen to have a char on kargath? |
| 00:00.12 | Kirkburn | I haven't the faintest what my guild is like atm - probably still got 500 members though :) |
| 00:00.20 | Hexarobee | im trying to debug my addon and my last friend just logged ;) |
| 00:00.31 | Kirkburn | (I should really log in some day) |
| 00:01.20 | JoshBorke | sec Hexarobee |
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| 00:02.25 | JoshBorke | coulda sworn i had toons on kargath |
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| 00:03.18 | cladhaire | and now we're not going to mc =) |
| 00:03.19 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:03.48 | Hexarobee | hehe ok i founjd someone |
| 00:03.49 | Hexarobee | but argh |
| 00:04.02 | Hexarobee | im trying to use the confirm dialog |
| 00:04.18 | Hexarobee | its someone challenging you to a game, accept yes/no |
| 00:04.32 | JoshBorke | you should totally make it playable through in-game mail |
| 00:04.39 | Hexarobee | ooo |
| 00:04.52 | Hexarobee | ya that could work |
| 00:04.58 | Hexarobee | let me get it working in tells first ;) |
| 00:05.02 | Hexarobee | im sooo close |
| 00:05.16 | Hexarobee | been trying to get this confirm to work for an hour |
| 00:12.29 | Tain | As loathe as I am to post too many insidious online videos that no one ever watches, this one was pretty entertaining to me. Filmed in-game and very well done editing. |
| 00:12.30 | Tain | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7170734078280837335&q=warcraft+hardware+store |
| 00:18.41 | Hexarobee | can anyone tell me how to pass vars to a confirm box? ive tried using the one listed in the howto and i dont get it |
| 00:19.00 | Hexarobee | it uses different variable names in the declaration and the call, so its confusing |
| 00:19.13 | Hexarobee | i thought it made sense, but i tried like it says and its killin me |
| 00:19.27 | Kirov | what are you trying to do? |
| 00:19.40 | Kirov | Personally I gave up and just have it reference a global. |
| 00:20.04 | Hexarobee | how do u do that? |
| 00:21.25 | JoshBorke | Hexarobee: yes, hold on |
| 00:22.08 | Hexarobee | hold on think i got it |
| 00:22.37 | JoshBorke | StaticPopup_Show(<pop-up>,[arg1],[arg2]) |
| 00:22.52 | JoshBorke | with text = 'Arg1 here: %s and arg2 here: %s' |
| 00:24.38 | Kirkburn | Tain, excellent video |
| 00:24.47 | Kirkburn | Thanks for posting it :) |
| 00:28.37 | Tem | cladhaire, is it like that on all the frames? |
| 00:29.13 | cladhaire | Tem: I think so |
| 00:29.19 | Tem | actually clad, that looke like you haven't loaded the texture |
| 00:29.20 | cladhaire | may have somethign to do with truncate ever being on |
| 00:29.24 | Hexarobee | grrr so close |
| 00:29.26 | cladhaire | thats possible. |
| 00:29.26 | Hexarobee | gotta give up for now |
| 00:29.27 | Hexarobee | bbl |
| 00:29.28 | cladhaire | there's a new texture? |
| 00:29.30 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:29.33 | Tem | yes you noob |
| 00:29.34 | cladhaire | you mean it looks better? |
| 00:29.36 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:29.37 | cladhaire | k |
| 00:29.53 | Tem | it looks EXACTLY like the proof of concept |
| 00:29.58 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:29.58 | cladhaire | k |
| 00:29.59 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:30.01 | cladhaire | i'll reload when i can |
| 00:30.05 | Tem | no no |
| 00:30.07 | Tem | you have to restart |
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| 00:30.16 | Tem | restart now, whooo-er |
| 00:31.16 | cladhaire | cant |
| 00:31.17 | cladhaire | raiding |
| 00:31.21 | Tem | dude |
| 00:31.25 | Tem | it's ZG |
| 00:31.41 | Tem | I wrote the fuckin borders in ZG |
| 00:31.49 | Tem | and I wrote this at work |
| 00:31.55 | Tem | you can restart your wow once |
| 00:31.59 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:32.04 | cladhaire | i haven't raided here as a healer |
| 00:32.11 | Tem | it's easy, I promise |
| 00:32.13 | cladhaire | let alone as a druid that's in SHIT ass gear |
| 00:32.19 | cladhaire | ive been as a priest |
| 00:32.26 | cladhaire | i just lag died |
| 00:32.29 | cladhaire | piranhas |
| 00:32.30 | cladhaire | cause you made me reload |
| 00:32.31 | cladhaire | bitch |
| 00:32.38 | Tem | cry more, noob |
| 00:32.46 | Kirov | don't autorun when you /reload? |
| 00:33.03 | Tem | oh lol. we jumped channels |
| 00:33.23 | Tem | stupid irc client |
| 00:35.57 | cladhaire | oh |
| 00:35.57 | cladhaire | wow |
| 00:35.59 | cladhaire | how'd that happen |
| 00:38.59 | Tem | so, did you restart yet? |
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| 00:42.56 | cladhaire | NO |
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| 00:55.32 | Thrae | What's a good Raiding Calendar addon? |
| 00:55.57 | Thrae | My guild has been using Guild Event Manager 2 (GEM) and we're encountering problems with it. |
| 00:56.45 | kergoth | my guild's been using guildcalendar, but i dont think its too much better. seems to get the job done though. *shrugs* |
| 00:57.37 | Thrae | Group Calendar you mean? |
| 00:57.40 | kergoth | aye, that |
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| 01:05.19 | Kirkburn | G'night, one and all |
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| 01:50.01 | Mikma | SVN up yet? :) |
| 01:52.30 | Thrae | Mikk: You around? |
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| 02:04.27 | MentalPower | Shadowed: did you figure out Stubby? |
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| 02:42.39 | cladhaire | ooh |
| 03:01.43 | MentalPower | yes? |
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| 04:15.08 | Shadowed | MentalPower: sorry was AFK |
| 04:15.14 | Shadowed | Yeah, I figured it out |
| 04:16.09 | Shadowed | and by "I" i mean "Iriel" |
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| 04:40.03 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is World of Warcraft Mod Dev Discussions |
| 04:58.51 | DoomGaze3 | heya mental |
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| 05:18.23 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is World of Warcraft Mod Dev Discussions |
| 05:22.35 | Industrial | say um mental are you by any chance dutchand have you played or do you play hl1:tfc ? |
| 05:23.30 | DoomGaze3 | mmm, tfc |
| 05:24.14 | DoomGaze3 | I remember this one time: Me and my brother got really stoned. Then we both spawned Engies and sat in the spawn exit repairing each other for like 5 minutes |
| 05:24.30 | DoomGaze3 | People were so pissed. They couldn't leave the sapwn! |
| 05:24.34 | Shadowed | hahaha |
| 05:24.46 | Shadowed | TFC was always fun |
| 05:25.02 | DoomGaze3 | TF2 looks purdy |
| 05:35.04 | Industrial | tf2 can go to hell :< |
| 05:35.09 | Industrial | fortress-forever.com |
| 05:35.14 | Industrial | ff >tf2 |
| 05:35.41 | Industrial | ff is made by people that understand the community because they are or have been part of it |
| 05:36.06 | Industrial | anyone up for some tfc? >:) |
| 05:39.56 | DoomGaze3 | if I weren't coding, I'd join you |
| 05:43.46 | ckknight | what's faster/better: string.find(arg1, "^/") or string.sub(arg1, 1, 1) == "/" ? |
| 05:44.31 | Kirov | find |
| 05:44.38 | DoomGaze3 | speed isn't much of an issue unless you're calling trig functions hundreds of times a frame anyways |
| 05:46.49 | ckknight | going with find |
| 06:13.13 | DoomGaze3 | Players can recieve loot when they're dead right? |
| 06:13.31 | DoomGaze3 | *and not released |
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| 06:37.35 | Esamynn | Evening all |
| 06:41.56 | DoomGaze3 | yo |
| 06:49.36 | Esamynn | you know, I hate it when someone misses my point entirely |
| 06:49.42 | Esamynn | and doesn't even realise it |
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| 07:06.35 | Esamynn | brb |
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| 07:40.06 | ckknight | what's the best way to tell how many 'h's are in a string? e.g. "happy holidays" would have 2 |
| 07:40.29 | Shadowed | while string.find... |
| 07:40.46 | Esamynn | probably string.gfind |
| 07:41.37 | ckknight | hrm, string.gsub("happy holidays", "h", "h") return "happy holidays", 2 |
| 07:41.51 | Esamynn | not gsub, gfind |
| 07:41.53 | ckknight | but that probably takes up more cpu time than necessary |
| 07:42.02 | ckknight | gfind returns a function |
| 07:42.30 | Esamynn | oh, I see, gsub would probably be slightly more efficient than gfind |
| 07:42.35 | ckknight | maybe... |
| 07:42.40 | Esamynn | I forgot gsub returns a count |
| 07:43.02 | Esamynn | not really any other way to go about it though |
| 07:44.28 | Shadowed | Easiest way would just be to loop through gfind pretty much |
| 07:44.41 | Shadowed | "for id in string.gfind( text, "h" ) do" |
| 07:45.09 | Esamynn | nah, I like the gsub method, only 1 function call and no loop |
| 07:45.30 | ckknight | and it's a C function |
| 07:45.51 | Shadowed | er oops |
| 07:49.32 | krka | why not just loop through all characters and see which are h? |
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| 08:31.32 | DoomGaze3 | maybe I'm thinking about this too hard |
| 08:32.45 | DoomGaze3 | but if I want to insert a number into a table, how does table.insert differentiate between, say: table.insert(myTable, 5) and table.insert(myTable, "five")? |
| 08:34.06 | Shadowed | It doesn't, it depends what you're trying to do |
| 08:34.41 | Shadowed | if you just plan on showing it as text and not doing any checking beforehand then the only difference is you'll see "5" instead of "five" |
| 08:35.35 | DoomGaze3 | k |
| 08:36.38 | Shadowed | But you're not going to be able to check if it's a number thats higher then 0 for example if you insert "five" instead of 5 |
| 08:38.12 | DoomGaze3 | so given the following functions...: function foo(foo) return foo end function foo(foo1, foo2) return foo1 + foo2 end |
| 08:38.52 | DoomGaze3 | if I call foo(1) I get 1 and if I call foo(1, 1) I get 2? |
| 08:40.08 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 08:40.20 | DoomGaze3 | gotcha. thanks. |
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| 08:43.03 | krka | whoa whoa... lua doesnt do that |
| 08:43.14 | krka | you can only have one function called foo |
| 08:43.33 | Shadowed | s/was/is/ |
| 08:43.53 | krka | you need function foo(foo1, foo2) if foo2 == nil then return foo1 else return foo1 + foo2 end end |
| 08:44.19 | Shadowed | it's not like java basically |
| 08:44.38 | DoomGaze3 | so how do you define a function that takes optional values? |
| 08:44.50 | Shadowed | you do what krka said |
| 08:45.06 | DoomGaze3 | aaaaaah |
| 08:45.11 | DoomGaze3 | gotcha |
| 08:47.19 | krka | imo, examples should be simple, but correct |
| 08:47.27 | krka | incorrect examples always confuse more than they help |
| 08:47.56 | Shadowed | what he said! |
| 08:49.20 | DoomGaze3 | all well and good, but I still don't understand this table.insert function. function definition is like this: table.insert(table, [pos,] value) |
| 08:50.34 | Shadowed | you could switch it somewhat easly |
| 08:50.46 | Shadowed | if the third argument was nil then use the second argument as value |
| 08:51.06 | Esamynn | ~lart Shadowed |
| 08:51.10 | Esamynn | no abusing the bot! |
| 08:51.12 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 08:51.18 | Shadowed | ~slap Esamynn |
| 08:51.20 | purl | ACTION slaps Esamynn, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 08:51.29 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Shadowed |
| 08:51.31 | purl | ACTION slaps Shadowed around with a wheel of gouda |
| 08:51.34 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 08:51.35 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 08:51.35 | purl | Esamynn: aw, gee |
| 08:51.36 | Shadowed | ~fishslap |
| 08:52.08 | Esamynn | lol |
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| 09:09.08 | Shadowed | after 5 minutes of not responding to something in IRC you're not allowed to respond! |
| 09:09.13 | Shadowed | anyway, sleep for me |
| 09:09.21 | DoomGaze3 | lies. Sleep well. :) |
| 09:11.35 | kergoth | Shadowed: .. |
| 09:11.38 | kergoth | ~fishslap Shadowed |
| 09:11.40 | purl | ACTION slaps Shadowed up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 09:11.42 | kergoth | ~whaleslap Shadowed |
| 09:11.43 | purl | ACTION beats Shadowed upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 09:11.45 | kergoth | ~herring Shadowed |
| 09:11.46 | purl | ACTION whacks Shadowed on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 09:11.47 | kergoth | :P |
| 09:15.25 | MoonWolf | ~whalecounterattack kergoth |
| 09:15.27 | purl | ACTION responds by unleashing a flurry of blows with a indescribably enormous killer whale named Nathaniel upon kergoth. |
| 09:18.21 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 09:18.21 | purl | aw, gee, Esamynn |
| 09:18.47 | Esamynn | night all |
| 09:26.50 | DoomGaze3 | who names their herring? |
| 09:26.53 | DoomGaze3 | honestly? |
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| 09:46.41 | DoomGaze3 | ni |
| 09:50.51 | krka | http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/006481.html |
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| 12:01.19 | zespri | why do I have that terrible fps? |
| 12:03.02 | Corrodias | because frames per second is a plural phrase, so your use of poor grammar has doomed you. |
| 12:04.36 | zespri | my poor use fo grammar stems from the fact that I'm not a native speaker of english langauge |
| 12:05.55 | Corrodias | DOOMED, I SAY! |
| 12:06.23 | zespri | that was helpful ) |
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| 12:13.21 | zespri | according to benchmarks my videocard and cpu should give about 40-50 fps on the settings that I'm using, I have <10 |
| 12:13.33 | zespri | no addons |
| 12:15.21 | krka | what about memory and harddrive speed? |
| 12:17.53 | zespri | I have intel P4 3GHz, 1GB memory, video is nvidia 6600GT with 128 memory |
| 12:18.22 | zespri | hardrive is nothing special, I don;t beleive that there are extra slow harddrives out there |
| 12:19.11 | zespri | basically my memory total ussage when I run WoW is under 1GB, so there shoudl be no swapping and such. and fps is bad even when I stend still |
| 12:19.16 | zespri | *stand |
| 12:20.41 | zespri | when I try to lower resolution it doesn't help at all. fps stays at the same level of 9-11 |
| 12:22.30 | zespri | memory is two equal 512 chips with freq 200 mhz |
| 12:25.10 | krka | wow data might be fragmentet? |
| 12:25.24 | krka | other processes hogging power / memory |
| 12:25.41 | zespri | i'm running defragmenter on a sceduler - every night |
| 12:25.49 | zespri | kill everything beo |
| 12:25.55 | zespri | before I start wow |
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| 12:30.48 | Industrial | http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9048/ezquake003by4.png |
| 12:30.49 | Industrial | h4x |
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| 14:17.11 | leila | hi all |
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| 14:39.47 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 14:41.56 | wereHamster | morning |
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| 15:23.21 | JoshBorke | morning cladhaire |
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| 15:32.25 | cladhaire | morning. |
| 15:43.34 | Tain | So I'm looking through RDX, the raid assist type addon that Conquest uses internally. |
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| 15:44.18 | Tain | As soon as I started looking I wanted to cry at the global namespace pollution. So many global vars in the "helper function" library that it depends on. |
| 15:44.38 | MoonWolf | Conquest ? |
| 15:44.51 | Tain | They're a big guild. |
| 15:44.59 | MoonWolf | some people don't even understand the concept namespace tain, how can you expect them to keep it clean |
| 15:45.37 | Tain | I'm spoiled by learning. |
| 15:45.59 | MoonWolf | ignorance is bliss |
| 15:46.03 | MoonWolf | it truely is |
| 15:46.34 | Tain | Sometimes I long for bliss. |
| 15:48.04 | Tain | Good morning Cairenn :) |
| 15:48.47 | Cairenn | Now let's not get carried away here, shall we? Morning? Yes. Good? That requires more investigation. |
| 15:49.01 | Tain | I am ever the optimist. |
| 15:49.04 | krka | it's an epxression cair |
| 15:49.08 | Cairenn | :) |
| 15:49.14 | krka | exeprssion |
| 15:49.17 | krka | exrpession |
| 15:49.31 | krka | saying |
| 15:49.39 | Cairenn | expression ;) |
| 15:50.21 | Mikma | sexpression |
| 15:50.56 | Tain | Espresso? |
| 15:51.09 | Mikma | hmmmm, coffee |
| 15:51.18 | Mikma | thanks for the idea :) |
| 15:51.25 | Tain | I went to Dunkin Donuts drive through this morning. |
| 15:51.42 | Cairenn | so in other words you still need a real coffee yet? |
| 15:51.45 | Tain | They managed to screw up bagel sandwich and large hot coffee. |
| 15:52.34 | Tain | I'm not one for coffee the consistency and strength of motor oil. |
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| 15:53.13 | Tain | Besides, Dunkin Donuts is *the* chain in this area. There's one on every corner, it's what people in New England grew up with. |
| 15:54.06 | Tain | On the other hand I do usually just make my own at home with a French Press coffee maker. |
| 16:07.51 | cladhaire | DD coffee is like crack here. |
| 16:07.55 | cladhaire | people love it. |
| 16:08.00 | cladhaire | like tain said, they grew up with it =) |
| 16:13.35 | Tain | Oh damn my new laptop shipped out yesterday. |
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| 16:16.12 | krka | gah, why does irssi map Mikma, Tain and Cairenn to the same color |
| 16:16.56 | Rallion | to make you angry |
| 16:17.04 | krka | obviously |
| 16:17.04 | Cairenn | cladhaire: yes, but you live close enough to know what *good* coffee is, and it ain't DD's |
| 16:17.38 | Mikma | :) |
| 16:17.43 | Mikma | we are so super |
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| 16:18.51 | Rallion | I used to work in a crappy cafe and talking to the customers I found that the majority preferred the nearby DD to the nearby Starbucks. Eventually I realized that the ones that preferred Starbucks were just less likely to come in to Borders Books for coffee. |
| 16:19.15 | Cairenn | I'm not talking about Starbucks |
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| 16:27.43 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Sadly I'm not a coffee drinker, so I'm not familiar with whats good =) |
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| 16:45.15 | Esamynn | Morning all |
| 16:48.01 | Rallion | I knew you weren't talking about Starbucks. I just felt like sharing. |
| 16:52.21 | Rallion | I hate coffee myself, I went to starbucks the othr day with a couple friends and got a hot chocolate, but I couldn't even drink it inside because of the coffee smell |
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| 17:35.07 | krka | i love it when you figure out a good way to approach a problem :) |
| 17:35.40 | JoshBorke | me too :-) |
| 17:35.50 | JoshBorke | figure out your memory problem? |
| 17:35.58 | krka | yeah, theoretically |
| 17:36.06 | krka | i theoretically know enough to build my sandbox now |
| 17:36.32 | krka | i am starting with the other end though - implementing a simple lua game engine and a simple dummy strategy |
| 17:36.58 | krka | from there i can obviously figure out how the c-side should be done |
| 17:39.05 | krka | in theory |
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| 18:29.25 | Mikk | Hum. Is it possible to recategorize already-existing addons on wowi? |
| 18:29.39 | Mikk | I.e. Beta Version Interface -> Whatever it should be when it's out of beta |
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| 18:29.52 | Mikk | Been looking for a button to poke but not finding it |
| 18:33.13 | Kirkburn | Now that's an odd comment to hear - what's the topic, Mikk? |
| 18:33.33 | Mikk | 20:29MikkHum. Is it possible to recategorize already-existing addons on wowi? |
| 18:33.33 | Mikk | MikkI.e. Beta Version Interface -> Whatever it should be when it's out of beta |
| 18:33.59 | Mikk | I'm also looking for the "Gifv Admin Status" on wowwiki but not having much luck there either |
| 18:34.26 | Kirkburn | Cairenn can do it easily, afaik |
| 18:40.11 | JoshBorke | Mikk: send a PM to Cairenn |
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| 19:53.09 | ckknight | does loadstring/string.dump work properly in WoW? |
| 19:53.36 | Kirkburn | People say the oddest things, complaining that "Outland is a continent, not a world!", as if outland isn't the remains of a planet or anything ... |
| 19:54.26 | Rallion | Outland is a large section of a terrain file with corresponding server code to populate with objects. |
| 19:54.58 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:55.13 | cladhaire | i dont think so ckknight |
| 19:55.22 | ckknight | aw |
| 19:55.28 | Kirkburn | I changed it so it now says both continent and world, since both work :) |
| 19:55.40 | Kirkburn | (er, I'm talking abotu the wiki, natch) |
| 19:55.46 | Rallion | heh |
| 19:56.06 | Rallion | It's really not worth any kind of argument, it really is both. |
| 19:56.28 | Rallion | it just depends on the context. |
| 19:57.07 | Rallion | heh, don't Azeroth and Kalimdor have different 'world servers'? |
| 19:57.41 | cladhaire | ckknight: /dump loadstring(string.dump(function() return math.random(100) end))() doesn't work, it can't load the string in. |
| 19:58.05 | cladhaire | but it works fine with plaintext func defs. |
| 19:58.31 | ckknight | yea, I get an error saying invalid control char near near `char(27)' |
| 19:59.09 | ckknight | well, I guess that means I can't serialize/deserialize functions |
| 19:59.49 | Kirkburn | Rallion, hehe, they do =) Complicated further by the fact you just called one of the continents Azeroth |
| 20:00.39 | Cairenn | done |
| 20:00.43 | Mery | thats the official "file path to the continent map" name of it :P |
| 20:01.09 | Kirkburn | Azeroth is either the world, or the area around Stormwind :) Before the other areas of the world were introduced, it would have been fair to describe the Eastern Kingdoms as 'Azeroth' as well, since that was the world - but it's no longer used by Blizz |
| 20:01.09 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: You can't be sure there ARE continents on Draenor. It could be one single land mass. |
| 20:01.40 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, we know it's broken up with 'island' chunks though |
| 20:01.40 | cladhaire | ok.. so the quartermaster who gives the BWL attunement item isn't respawning. |
| 20:01.52 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: Aye.. its all semantics anyway =) |
| 20:01.57 | Kirkburn | heh, yeah |
| 20:02.10 | Mery | report to a gm, they usually fix it. |
| 20:02.10 | Kirkburn | Good poitn though, the map of Draenor has never shown the entire planet |
| 20:02.34 | ckknight | yea, I always thought of it Pangaea-style, though |
| 20:02.37 | Kirkburn | It has only ever shown one side of one of the continents (good foresight by Blizz there, I reckon) |
| 20:03.22 | Kirkburn | I've never thought of the idea that Draenor could have been more than that area |
| 20:03.45 | cladhaire | Draenor is a "World" |
| 20:03.52 | cladhaire | i dont think its been stated as a planet. |
| 20:04.01 | Kirkburn | Now your being picky |
| 20:04.01 | cladhaire | just keep that in mind.. given that this is a magical world and everything =) |
| 20:04.06 | cladhaire | haha |
| 20:04.06 | cladhaire | always |
| 20:04.07 | Kirkburn | *you're |
| 20:04.14 | Mikk | Of course not. These backward nubs don't know what planets are =) |
| 20:04.34 | Kirkburn | By the way, there's a massive moon next to Outland, i've noticed |
| 20:04.43 | cladhaire | The BWL attunement guy is still the quartermaster by the orb.. right? |
| 20:04.51 | Kirkburn | He's been moved |
| 20:04.59 | cladhaire | to where? |
| 20:05.10 | Kirkburn | A different place in the corridor, afaik |
| 20:05.10 | Shadowed | first left when going to the orb |
| 20:05.20 | Shadowed | he's right down the ramp |
| 20:05.20 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 20:05.31 | cladhaire | ah |
| 20:05.34 | cladhaire | not soloable anymore? |
| 20:05.40 | Shadowed | depends on your class |
| 20:05.47 | Kirkburn | Not as easy as before, I think |
| 20:05.49 | cladhaire | well i can solo HIM |
| 20:05.54 | cladhaire | but he has 3 right next to him |
| 20:06.00 | Shadowed | which is why it depends on your class :p |
| 20:06.14 | Shadowed | If theres a bunch of people that are waiting to go to BWL you maybe able to kite the mobs to them and they help kill |
| 20:06.31 | Kirkburn | You're attuning BWL before you've been in MC? :O |
| 20:06.52 | Shadowed | that wouldn't be really suprising |
| 20:06.58 | Kirkburn | I get the feeling you're passing the time ... |
| 20:07.15 | Kirkburn | Well, true - but it was only yesterday clad got attuned to MC |
| 20:07.33 | Shadowed | a guilds more likely to do BWL over MC now and days |
| 20:07.34 | Kirkburn | Or this morning. Or something |
| 20:07.34 | cladhaire | i'm waiting for my ubrs run to form |
| 20:07.39 | cladhaire | so i can work on ubrs run #2 of the ony key |
| 20:07.40 | Shadowed | depending on the guild of course |
| 20:07.46 | cladhaire | it was last night |
| 20:07.48 | cladhaire | solo =) |
| 20:07.53 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 20:07.56 | Shadowed | but most are going to be doing BWL/AQ40 and possibly nax over MC :p |
| 20:07.59 | cladhaire | thanks to your help |
| 20:08.07 | cladhaire | but guilds cannot skip to BWL without doing MC. |
| 20:08.12 | cladhaire | that's just entirely impossible. |
| 20:08.19 | Kirkburn | So, yeah - think we'll be able to visit this moon of Outland's one day? |
| 20:08.30 | Shadowed | I never said that guilds could skip MC. |
| 20:08.34 | cladhaire | depends on if the damn blood elves keep sabotaging our dimensional ships |
| 20:08.39 | Kirkburn | Or maybe even one of Azeroth's two moons... |
| 20:08.41 | cladhaire | Shadowed: I know, I jwas just commenting. |
| 20:09.11 | Kirkburn | I wonder how much of 'the universe', Blizz have mapped out |
| 20:09.13 | Shadowed | You could probably pull off BWL without going into MC if people put more work into it and farmed blue/epics |
| 20:09.25 | Shadowed | Vael would be hard though |
| 20:09.26 | cladhaire | you wouldn't have the DPS for vael |
| 20:09.32 | cladhaire | even with full consumables. |
| 20:09.39 | cladhaire | its tuned too tightly |
| 20:09.54 | Shadowed | There are guilds thaat are able to make progress through dungeons on the new servers fairly quickly. |
| 20:10.05 | Shadowed | And some have done it with around a month of farming MC? |
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| 20:14.15 | cladhaire | yeah i can't do this |
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| 20:19.02 | Rallion | There's still an established continent that's completely absent from the game |
| 20:19.50 | Rallion | Argh, why does the National Weather Service always refuse to let me watch Good Eats? |
| 20:20.17 | JoshBorke | why couldn't a guild skip MC by doing ZG? |
| 20:20.59 | JoshBorke | and now AQ20, there's more than enough gear to make BWL that much easier |
| 20:21.31 | JoshBorke | don't see why someone couldn't clear ZG/AQ20/Ony for 2 weeks and then start on BWL |
| 20:24.16 | cladhaire | because you get so much more loot in MC than you do anywhere else. |
| 20:24.32 | cladhaire | you gear a few people up in AQ20 or ZG.. you gear lots of people up in MC |
| 20:27.19 | JoshBorke | but you can run ZG/AQ20 twice as often |
| 20:27.27 | JoshBorke | effectively 4 runs for each week of MC |
| 20:28.04 | Cide | however |
| 20:28.10 | Cide | what are you going to do after ZG/AQ20? |
| 20:28.19 | Cide | BWL? you still need 40 people to do that, so why not do MC in the first place? |
| 20:28.44 | Cide | and if you pick up 20 'new' people after gearing up the guild in ZG/AQ20, then they'll be undergeared |
| 20:29.00 | JoshBorke | i'm assuming you already have 40 and split the gulid in 2 groups of 20 |
| 20:29.17 | JoshBorke | what timer is ony on? |
| 20:29.20 | Cide | you'll be screwed in BWL then |
| 20:29.21 | Cide | 5 days |
| 20:29.23 | cladhaire | your priests need their tier 1 bonus |
| 20:29.25 | cladhaire | for one =) |
| 20:29.35 | Cide | 3pc prophecy isn't that good |
| 20:29.45 | cladhaire | no, 5pc |
| 20:29.49 | cladhaire | i think |
| 20:29.51 | Cide | um |
| 20:29.56 | Cide | that's... |
| 20:29.57 | cladhaire | no |
| 20:29.59 | cladhaire | i meant 3pc. |
| 20:30.03 | cladhaire | i like it =) |
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| 20:30.05 | Cide | -.1 sec on FH |
| 20:30.09 | Cide | I almost never use FH anymore |
| 20:30.20 | cladhaire | but guilds who are breaking into BWL from AQ/ZG will =) |
| 20:30.44 | cladhaire | yes its possible.. it just don't seem worthwhile to me |
| 20:31.08 | JoshBorke | quick question: i have a 1x1 texture i want to move up and down in a frame. i'm assuming i have to use SetPoint()? |
| 20:31.16 | JoshBorke | i agree, totalyl not worth it :-D |
| 20:31.23 | cladhaire | wtf |
| 20:31.33 | Cide | 1x1 texture will probably not even be visible |
| 20:31.52 | Cide | 2x2 would probably be better.. in any case, SetPoint's the way to go |
| 20:32.00 | krka | i doubt you have a 1x1 texture. that's impossible! |
| 20:32.10 | JoshBorke | yes, you're right |
| 20:32.15 | Cide | 2^0? ;) |
| 20:32.15 | cladhaire | these three idiots (two mages, rogue) think we can do the four dragons for ony key with two mages a rogue and a druid. |
| 20:32.19 | JoshBorke | i'm just using SetHeight(1) and SetWidth(1) |
| 20:32.38 | krka | odd numbers aren't powers of two! pmg noobs |
| 20:32.57 | Cide | is 2^0 not considered a power of two? |
| 20:33.04 | Cide | kind of a trick question, but really, is it? |
| 20:33.21 | cladhaire | = |
| 20:33.22 | cladhaire | =) |
| 20:33.26 | JoshBorke | anyway, how can i get the SetPoint of another texture? |
| 20:34.18 | krka | the question is if 0.5 is a power of two? |
| 20:34.31 | krka | or better yet... is 0 a power of two? |
| 20:34.37 | krka | 2^-\infty |
| 20:34.38 | Mikk | no |
| 20:35.29 | JoshBorke | no what? |
| 20:36.12 | Mikk | JoshBorke: texture:GetPoint(n) no worky? |
| 20:36.40 | JoshBorke | ah, i didn't know about GetPoint :-) |
| 20:37.16 | Mikk | Why do you need the point though? |
| 20:37.27 | Mikk | Just SetPoint with the other texture as relative obj? |
| 20:38.20 | JoshBorke | i'm creating a line on a graph and to shift the line i planned on using SetPoint to set the point of the current texture to that of the next texture and then set the last texture to whatever the current value is |
| 20:39.47 | krka | ooh... drawing a graph? are you using iriels line rotating stuff? |
| 20:39.55 | krka | should be perfect for graphs |
| 20:40.01 | JoshBorke | not a pie graph |
| 20:40.20 | krka | no, i meant a regular math graph |
| 20:40.27 | krka | y=f(x) kinda |
| 20:40.42 | JoshBorke | explain how i would do that? |
| 20:40.48 | JoshBorke | i'm not so smart :-) |
| 20:41.06 | krka | i probably just dont understand what you want done |
| 20:41.07 | krka | never mind me |
| 20:41.16 | JoshBorke | i'm redoing this mod: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1656 |
| 20:41.39 | JoshBorke | and combining it with this mod: and copying |
| 20:41.40 | JoshBorke | blah |
| 20:41.49 | JoshBorke | and combining it with this mod: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1188 |
| 20:42.07 | JoshBorke | so do you think Iriel's code would help me? :-) |
| 20:42.58 | krka | hmm.. if you want the area under the graph filled, like in the pics, then probably no |
| 20:43.06 | krka | if you just want to draw the line, then yes |
| 20:43.15 | JoshBorke | i just want to draw the DPS/HPS line |
| 20:43.29 | krka | then yeah |
| 20:43.52 | JoshBorke | learn me! learn me! |
| 20:43.55 | krka | basically, his line thingy makes you draw a straight line between (x1, y1) and (x2, y2) |
| 20:44.25 | krka | have to find it |
| 20:51.35 | Kirkburn | <Rallion> There's still an established continent that's completely absent from the game <-- I guess you're referring to Northrend? |
| 20:52.27 | Kirkburn | There's a lot more than that missing =) Southern continents/islands too |
| 20:53.00 | Kirkburn | The in-game map doesn't show many of the lone islands, too |
| 20:54.30 | krka | damn it, cant find it |
| 20:55.01 | krka | just because i said that... :) http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3378 |
| 20:56.34 | JoshBorke | wouldn't it be easier for me to do what i planned on doing? |
| 20:58.14 | krka | up to you :) |
| 20:58.51 | krka | this is basically just good if you have fewer datapoints than visible pixels |
| 20:59.09 | krka | so you can have a line that goes nicely between |
| 20:59.39 | JoshBorke | ah, i've got WAY more data points than visible pixels :-D |
| 21:00.12 | krka | i see |
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| 21:10.32 | Cide | http://ui.worldofwar.net/images/ui/1124534483inAction.JPG |
| 21:10.49 | Cide | a graph like that for a tank's hp while doing patchwerk would be fun to see |
| 21:11.05 | Cide | ||_||_|_|||__|_|_|||__ |
| 21:12.33 | JoshBorke | ooo, pretty |
| 21:12.46 | Cide | yep! |
| 21:12.48 | JoshBorke | that's exactly why i'm doing it cide |
| 21:12.55 | JoshBorke | it'll also show HPS/DPS =D |
| 21:14.47 | Osagasu | A graph like that would be Top, bottom, top, bottom |
| 21:14.57 | Osagasu | Poor tanks getting smacked around by patchwerk |
| 21:15.19 | Cide | yup |
| 21:15.19 | JoshBorke | it'll record the entire last fight |
| 21:15.26 | JoshBorke | so you can scroll back through and see |
| 21:15.31 | Cide | what I tried to explain withh my beautiful "||_||_|_|||__|_|_|||__" |
| 21:15.47 | Mikma | Cide: :D that's true would be really nice to see |
| 21:16.38 | JoshBorke | ROFL |
| 21:17.37 | JoshBorke | i just watched as my line went across the screen |
| 21:17.47 | Osagasu | cool. |
| 21:18.21 | Osagasu | "Dear aunt. Lets set so double the killer delete select all" |
| 21:18.26 | Osagasu | And with that, AFK. |
| 21:19.00 | JoshBorke | bye all |
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| 21:33.54 | Hexarobee | finally found my bug! |
| 21:34.06 | Hexarobee | think im rdy to post the first beta of my mod |
| 21:37.55 | Shadowed | blarggh |
| 21:37.57 | Shadowed | damn people |
| 21:37.59 | Shadowed | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=422651 |
| 21:42.12 | Rallion | Anybody able to recommend a simple, easy to use, and simple source control program for windows? |
| 21:42.22 | ckknight | TortoiseSVN |
| 21:42.23 | krka | subversion |
| 21:42.32 | cladhaire | svn.exe |
| 21:42.43 | Rallion | awesome. |
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| 22:20.44 | Mery | hmm my cursor works in software but not hardware cursor mode, so my question is: is there one and if then which program creates uncompressed blp's? |
| 22:24.56 | End-afk | yes, but I forget where |
| 22:25.13 | End | I had to find one as well, but unfortunately, I dunno what I did with the program |
| 22:25.27 | End | and it took a while to find -and- get working properly |
| 22:28.13 | Hexarobee | is there a lua function to copy a table? |
| 22:28.18 | Hexarobee | or do i have to loop thru each element? |
| 22:29.45 | Mikk | you have to loop |
| 22:29.51 | Mikk | and recurse if you want a deep copy |
| 22:30.10 | Mikk | and duplicate references correctly if you're using table references as indices |
| 22:30.37 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tcopy |
| 22:30.45 | End | hrm |
| 22:31.01 | Hexarobee | ya just found tcopy |
| 22:31.32 | Hexarobee | no im just copying straight hashes so the tcopy will work fine |
| 22:35.39 | End | ugh |
| 22:35.57 | End | GameTooltip:SetHuperLink() is randomly failing |
| 22:40.03 | End | (actually, it's probably just updating slowly, but it's information the client knows already...) |
| 22:43.20 | End | ok..I'm confused |
| 22:44.00 | End | I'm noticing a pattern...the first time after load it seems to work immediately, after that, it isn't immediate |
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| 23:45.29 | MentalPower | any pointers on what settings I need to set photoshop to so that WoW can read my .tga files? |
| 23:54.30 | Mikk | MentalPower: images need to be a multiple of 8 pixels |
| 23:54.32 | Mikk | high and wide |
| 23:54.39 | Mikk | as far as i know, that's the only requirement |
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| 23:56.25 | Cide | a power of 2, I thought |
| 23:56.48 | Cide | well, he left! |
| 23:57.44 | MentalPower | power of 2 |
| 23:58.01 | MentalPower | tried 104 and it didn't work, tried 128 and it did |
| 23:58.14 | MentalPower | now I just need to get the transparency working |
| 23:58.20 | MentalPower | any tips there? |
