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| 00:13.36 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, I agree with you =) |
| 00:14.09 | Kirkburn | I don't know how it fares in IE6, but since IE7 is still a beta, it might be due to that |
| 00:14.31 | Cogwheel | are you talking about the new forums still? |
| 00:14.38 | Kirkburn | (and anyway, the IE should be more compatible isn't really an arguement now - since it will be, soon enough) |
| 00:14.47 | Kirkburn | Heh, maybe |
| 00:15.05 | Cogwheel | MS has stated they will not be changing anything about the way content is rendered. |
| 00:15.19 | Cogwheel | WYSIWYG for the time being... |
| 00:15.23 | Kirkburn | Actually, I was just responding to a comment from nearly an hour ago :P |
| 00:15.37 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I know - but that doesn't rule out more bug fixes before release |
| 00:16.31 | Kirkburn | IE8 will be when the big rendering advances come - my guess would be mid-late 2007 for that |
| 00:16.49 | Cogwheel | we can hope, anyway :P |
| 00:16.54 | Kirkburn | indeedy |
| 00:17.10 | Cogwheel | TBH, i am actually very impressed with what they've done to IE7 |
| 00:17.27 | Kirkburn | I was about to write the same thing |
| 00:18.17 | Cogwheel | it's good to have FF & IE duking it out...it only means better browsers for us :) |
| 00:18.18 | Kirkburn | In such a short time, too - it can only result in a better internet (esp since IE7 will be a priority update when released) |
| 00:19.05 | Kirkburn | (damn thunderstorms - the lights keep dimming, turning off the TV, but nothing else!) |
| 00:19.23 | Kirkburn | (not even the DVD player) |
| 00:19.29 | Cogwheel | I'm on a UPS (along with my router and cable modem...) |
| 00:19.53 | Cogwheel | Everything else must have bigger capacitors in their power supplies |
| 00:20.09 | Rallion | what kind of TV is it? |
| 00:20.30 | Kirkburn | Loewe, apparently ... just a normal tubey one |
| 00:20.37 | Rallion | weird. |
| 00:20.58 | Kirkburn | Yup - I think it's just sensitive |
| 00:21.10 | Kirkburn | And turns off as a precaution |
| 00:21.21 | Rallion | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.58 | Kirkburn | The thunderstorms aren't even around here now ... I think they're switching around the power grid probably |
| 00:22.29 | Rallion | ah |
| 00:22.48 | Kirkburn | Had a 2 hour power cut earlier - halfway through we got electricity back for all of 3 seconds :( |
| 00:23.22 | Kirkburn | Methinks they messed up their first attempt :P |
| 00:23.26 | Rallion | I HATE that! |
| 00:24.00 | Kirkburn | I was just about to get up off the floor and start playing Diablo 2 again, too =) |
| 00:24.36 | Kirkburn | <-- uber level 41 barbarian |
| 00:25.27 | Rallion | I'm considering installing War3 |
| 00:25.38 | Rallion | I have Frozen Throne, I've never played it |
| 00:26.56 | Rallion | I dunno, I'm torn between myriad potential activities, so I'm just spinning around in my chair while I watch last night's Daily Show... |
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| 00:28.40 | Rozr | anyone around atm? |
| 00:28.49 | Kirkburn | heh ... I need to play FT too, just so I understand more of it |
| 00:29.03 | Cairenn | hello Rozr |
| 00:29.06 | Kirkburn | sshh, Cogwheel, we're not here ;) |
| 00:29.19 | Rozr | I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the rigt direction |
| 00:29.27 | Rozr | so I"l extplain: |
| 00:30.12 | Cogwheel | s/:D/:O/ |
| 00:30.26 | Cogwheel | ~slap |
| 00:30.48 | Kirkburn | haha, in the style of that guy in The Simpsons |
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| 00:30.59 | kergoth | ~remulate |
| 00:31.00 | purl | do a little dance! |
| 00:31.00 | Rallion | i get the feeling we're about to see a very long message. |
| 00:31.09 | kergoth | ~remulate |
| 00:31.11 | purl | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 00:31.11 | Kirkburn | make a little love? |
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| 00:31.12 | Rozr | obviousy when "master looting" in a raid or party (raid in this situation) when pick the person's name from the list to give them the specific item, a routine is called where it calls a function that sends the item to that player, I'm wanting to know how I would alter that routine, so taht I can add in a function of my own "before" the item gets sent (but obviously after you click on the name to send ti to him) |
| 00:32.58 | Rozr | lol *cry* suddenly goes quiet |
| 00:33.51 | Tem | look in LootFrame.lua |
| 00:33.53 | Rozr | o woot :) thanks I appreciate big time I would honeslty be sitting here for weeks before I'd find anythig |
| 00:34.26 | Cogwheel | If you install the blizzard ui customization pack, it'll extract all their built-in lua and xml files for you to parouse. |
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| 00:34.56 | Mikma | hi boss |
| 00:35.35 | Mikma | someone in Nordrassil EU has grinded himself to Exalted in Winterspring.. and has bought the Panther |
| 00:36.32 | Cogwheel | What Tem said... you'll need to hook the function GroupLootDropDown_GiveLoot() |
| 00:36.44 | Rozr | Tem, are ou taking about in User Interface Customization Tool?? I'm sorry I've only ever really modified ui mods before, never really done anything from scratch, not sure where I'm supposed to have this lua file? |
| 00:37.06 | Tem | yes, run that tool |
| 00:37.16 | Tem | and get to the FrameXML files |
| 00:37.17 | Rozr | ah okay :) perfect thanks |
| 00:37.21 | Tem | you want Lootframe.lua |
| 00:37.23 | Rozr | yep that what I thought :) |
| 00:37.32 | Tem | which is where you will find the MasterLooter stuff |
| 00:37.34 | Rozr | Tem, thanks :) hugey appreciated |
| 00:37.37 | Tem | np |
| 00:38.11 | Rallion | aaaaargh |
| 00:38.21 | Rallion | I can't find my Frozen Throne CDkey |
| 00:38.31 | Rallion | oh here it is. |
| 00:43.02 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 00:47.16 | Rallion | it was at the bottom of the pile |
| 00:47.31 | Rallion | the pile of empty jewel cases with CDKey stickers on them |
| 00:51.38 | Rozr | I got one other question, the XML ui files are a pain in the ass....are there any gui xml apps that make it slightly easier to design theui part? |
| 00:52.03 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat49.html |
| 00:52.51 | Cogwheel | That's what I used for BatteryMinder |
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| 00:54.07 | Rozr | batteryminder? like for laptops? to display your battery level? |
| 00:54.23 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5195-BatteryMinder.html |
| 00:54.49 | Cogwheel | hehe.. thanks cair :) |
| 00:54.50 | Cairenn | mouse batteries |
| 00:54.53 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 00:55.00 | Rozr | ah |
| 00:55.03 | Cogwheel | was actually playing wow.... lol |
| 00:55.12 | Rozr | hehe I got Logitech G7 :) |
| 00:55.18 | Cairenn | Cogwheel: I am too |
| 00:55.33 | Cogwheel | :P yeah well... |
| 00:55.41 | Rozr | doesnt take no AAA wallet dwelling batteries, has its own battery packs with recharging station :) gotta love G7 |
| 00:57.11 | Cairenn | I run my monitor at 1280x1024 and my wow in windowed at 1024x768 |
| 00:57.20 | Cairenn | that way I can keep an eye on everything easier |
| 00:57.36 | Cogwheel | i have dual monitor so Chatzilla is about 1 foot away from my character |
| 00:57.55 | Cairenn | bah, you suck! |
| 00:58.59 | Rozr | lol wow is on my 19" dell trinitron flatscreen (1600x1200), and XChat on my 15.4" widescreen lcd (1200x800) dualhead |
| 00:59.09 | Cairenn | you suck even more |
| 00:59.58 | Cogwheel | heh. At work i've got a 23" 1920x1200 + 20" 1280x1024... the graphics card kinda sucks though so i can't play full screen :( |
| 01:00.22 | Rozr | lol |
| 01:00.29 | Cairenn | seriously,the bunch of ya, s.u. :p |
| 01:00.42 | Rozr | need an Nvidia Quatro card for big screens :) |
| 01:01.14 | Cogwheel | have they fixed that up yet? Last i heard the quad sli was doing about the same performance as dual... |
| 01:11.00 | Rallion | waste of moneyyyy! waste of moneyyyy! |
| 01:11.15 | Rallion | you know how much my video card cost? $120 |
| 01:11.18 | Rallion | two years ago |
| 01:11.27 | Rallion | still haven't found a game that doesn't run well |
| 01:12.49 | Rallion | ...damn, it's taking a while to update War3... |
| 01:12.57 | Rallion | to download the update, at least |
| 01:14.31 | Rallion | I bet Burning Crusade will actually make WoW installs smaller. |
| 01:14.55 | Rallion | at least, it will if they want it to |
| 01:24.15 | Kirkburn | I need a favour please :) How does this look for you? (esp. wanting someone using IE6) ... http://chig3.georgepribul.eu/ |
| 01:25.21 | Kirkburn | The thickening borders are intentional - I shall be replacing them with border pictures |
| 01:25.55 | Cogwheel | Mine cost about hehe... still workin on that, huh? |
| 01:26.18 | Cogwheel | s/Mine cost about // |
| 01:26.45 | Cogwheel | looks about right... |
| 01:27.43 | Mikma | does anyone know a way to show the roll-framw which pops up when there's item to roll? |
| 01:27.43 | Flyoc | anybody knows a mod to which you give like a regexp or a word and it will display the combat log matching it ? |
| 01:29.31 | Kirkburn | Cogwheel, I made my design made in fireworks, went on holiday ... and now I'm trying to work out how the hell to actually *make* it :) |
| 01:29.46 | Cogwheel | ah |
| 01:30.08 | Cogwheel | just some left and right margins probably |
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| 01:31.02 | Kirkburn | Hopefully all shall work nicely when all is done :) |
| 01:34.08 | Rozr | and how abouts would I "hook" that specific function? just redefining it in my lua files? or making a lua file with same name as its in, only holding just that function (with my changes to it) ??? |
| 01:34.15 | Kirkburn | darn, one thing only works in FF, not IE :( |
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| 01:40.36 | Kirkburn | Uh, er, now I'm just confused |
| 01:40.57 | Kirkburn | Now IE won't even show an image I've explicity put in the div |
| 01:41.53 | Rozr | shouldnt use IE.... |
| 01:43.11 | Kirkburn | Not helping :) |
| 01:43.55 | _Valgrind | The menu look a bit funny in Opera. |
| 01:44.15 | Kirkburn | How so? |
| 01:44.38 | _Valgrind | It wraps unless I make the window very wide. |
| 01:45.50 | _Valgrind | Firefox seems to do the same thing. |
| 01:47.05 | Kirkburn | woah |
| 01:47.09 | Kirkburn | er, yeah |
| 01:48.46 | Kirkburn | Should be fixed now |
| 01:49.21 | _Valgrind | Nope. |
| 01:49.59 | Kirkburn | In both? |
| 01:50.37 | Kirkburn | It's fine on FF for me atm |
| 01:51.05 | Kirkburn | lol, now I see why I was having trouble with IE |
| 01:51.24 | Kirkburn | Serve me right for trying to refresh the live copy, rather than the one I was working on |
| 01:51.25 | _Valgrind | Looks like crap in booth. You are not running a CMS and need to push "publish" by any chance? |
| 01:52.00 | Kirkburn | The files are definately up to date |
| 01:52.12 | _Valgrind | *restarts FF* |
| 01:52.18 | Kirkburn | In FF it should now have a min-width of 800px |
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| 01:53.42 | _Valgrind | Opera and FF behaves pretty much the same: I need to have the window 1000px+ wide to not break the page. |
| 01:54.10 | Kirkburn | To stop it wrapping? Tried ctrl+f5? |
| 01:54.43 | _Valgrind | Yes and yes- |
| 01:56.48 | Kirkburn | Weeeird |
| 01:57.04 | Kirkburn | Can you do me a screenshot? =) |
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| 02:05.06 | Rozr | and how abouts would I "hook" that specific function? just redefining it in my lua files? or making a lua file with same name as its in, only holding just that function (with my changes to it) ??? |
| 02:05.35 | Elessdy | "holding"? |
| 02:06.57 | Elessdy | the general method of "hooking" a function "the_function" is, as far as i understand, defining "myaddonname_the_function_old = the_function", then "the_function = my new definition which calls myaddonname_the_function_old at the end", so to speak. |
| 02:08.23 | Rozr | o... |
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| 02:10.33 | Kirkburn | No screenshot then? Nevermind, http://chig3.georgepribul.eu/ should look a hell of a lot better than it did before now |
| 02:11.20 | Tem | ok, I need a blank texture that exists in the default UI |
| 02:11.27 | Elessdy | well, it certainly looks... badly aligned. >_> FireFox 1.0.8, i think |
| 02:11.45 | Elessdy | 1.0.7? jeez, i'm even farther behind on this computer than i thought |
| 02:12.13 | Rozr | ie. (real simplistic) if: myFunc(x) x = x + 5 end <--- predeficed fuction mymod_myFunc = myFunc myFunc(x) x = 2 mymod_myFunc(x) end |
| 02:12.26 | Rozr | ? |
| 02:12.33 | _Valgrind | Kirkburn: https://svn.lysator.liu.se/zino/wrapping.png |
| 02:13.22 | Elessdy | well, something like that |
| 02:13.46 | Elessdy | the idea is that you call the old function to maintain the original behavior and allow other addons to hook it, while also adding your own behavior before and/or after the old one |
| 02:16.08 | Elessdy | but then other addons are going to rename your own function when hooking it and it gets sort of complex |
| 02:16.23 | Elessdy | to allow unhooking, i think you have to be a little more sophisticated, and i don't remember just how that goes right now. |
| 02:17.21 | ckknight | yes, unhooking is complicated |
| 02:17.43 | ckknight | if you want complicated hooking stuff, it may be in your best interest to use a proper hooking library |
| 02:17.48 | kergoth | anyone know if theres a maintained version of http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1423-1-popuphandler.html ? |
| 02:17.57 | kergoth | the bypass of teh BoP prompt when soloing is useful |
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| 02:19.39 | Kirkburn | _Valgrind, yeah, I saw the same thing. I've fixed that now (on mine anyway) |
| 02:20.47 | Elessdy | http://corrodias.no-ip.org:6928/forum/web.jpg |
| 02:21.17 | Elessdy | that's an image scrolled down somewhat, obviously not including the very top part |
| 02:25.29 | Kirkburn | ooh-err |
| 02:25.36 | Kirkburn | What's that in? |
| 02:26.13 | Elessdy | firefox 1.0.7 |
| 02:26.26 | Elessdy | a bit outdated, i daresay |
| 02:26.46 | Kirkburn | Hrm, it still shouldn't appear like that though |
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| 03:11.22 | Kirkburn | Elessdy, I don't suppose you could check now? |
| 03:12.17 | Elessdy | i have replaced the image with a new version. |
| 03:12.25 | Elessdy | *the current version |
| 03:18.26 | Kirkburn | Somewhat disturbing |
| 03:18.50 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 03:18.55 | Kirkburn | g'night |
| 03:19.04 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
| 03:19.06 | Kirkburn | Especially odd, since the top half is fine |
| 03:19.18 | Kirkburn | Ah, wait, I know why |
| 03:19.27 | Kirkburn | (I meant bottom half then) |
| 03:19.48 | Kirkburn | You have verdana as your main font, and the title section is overrunning the bounds, making it go crazy |
| 03:20.02 | Kirkburn | I'll replace it with an image for now |
| 03:21.33 | Kirkburn | Better now? |
| 03:27.05 | MentalPower | kergoth: theres an addon in cosmos that does that, its called "AutoBindOnPickup" |
| 03:29.38 | kergoth | cool |
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| 03:31.47 | Elessdy | sorry, i was reading something |
| 03:32.02 | Elessdy | it appears to look correct, now |
| 03:32.05 | Elessdy | perfect |
| 03:32.25 | Elessdy | well, except this one little odd bar of orange on the right side... here |
| 03:32.50 | Elessdy | the image has been updated |
| 03:33.56 | Kirkburn | Ah yeah, that orange will become something :) |
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| 03:34.34 | Cairenn | ~slap ChanServ |
| 03:34.40 | purl | ACTION slaps ChanServ, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 03:34.40 | Elessdy | and now, i'll go do other stuff, having assisted somewhat. later! |
| 03:34.52 | Kirkburn | Elessdy, thanks muchly! |
| 03:36.37 | MentalPower | note to self: don't checkout the entire Ace SVN if you only need one AddOn |
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| 03:37.48 | DoomGaze3 | hi |
| 03:37.54 | MentalPower | hi |
| 03:38.20 | DoomGaze3 | Is there anyone around who might be able to help me with a scripting question? |
| 03:38.32 | Hexarobi | 42 |
| 03:38.46 | DoomGaze3 | Ingenious! How did you know? :D |
| 03:38.53 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:38.59 | MentalPower | there "might" be someone :) |
| 03:39.22 | DoomGaze3 | Who do I have to kill? |
| 03:39.30 | DoomGaze3 | :) |
| 03:39.42 | Cairenn | no one, but bribing me is usually a good start |
| 03:39.51 | MentalPower | lol |
| 03:40.04 | MentalPower | sure, ask all technical questions to Cair |
| 03:40.18 | MentalPower | :P |
| 03:40.24 | Cairenn | no no, you bribe me so that I then get the others to answer you :p |
| 03:40.40 | DoomGaze3 | Ah... how about 10 favors? |
| 03:40.59 | Cairenn | you don't expect me to do any actual *work* or anything, do you? sheesh MentalPower, you should know better than that by now |
| 03:41.23 | MentalPower | lol, just making sure you were the "real" Cair :P |
| 03:41.28 | DoomGaze3 | nah, just asking someone to take a look at my script and tell me what I'm doing wrong, that's all |
| 03:41.34 | Cairenn | so, with that silliness out of the way ... ask away DoomGaze3, if someone can help and are at keys, I'm sure they will |
| 03:42.00 | DoomGaze3 | I posted a thread about it. I will link it.... |
| 03:42.01 | DoomGaze3 | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=26517#post26517 |
| 03:42.11 | Cairenn | that works too :) |
| 03:42.40 | DoomGaze3 | I'm trying to add my own entry to the GroupLootDropDown frame |
| 03:42.51 | DoomGaze3 | But for some reason, my functions aren't getting called |
| 03:48.41 | MentalPower | I'm looking at it |
| 03:49.47 | Cairenn | you're a good man Charlie Brown |
| 03:49.51 | Cairenn | ~pet MentalPower |
| 03:49.58 | purl | ACTION reaches over and pets MentalPower on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!" |
| 03:49.58 | DoomGaze3 | Thanks Mental. :) |
| 03:50.08 | Cairenn | hrm, wrong one |
| 03:50.11 | Cairenn | ~pat MentalPower |
| 03:50.13 | purl | ACTION pats MentalPower and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 03:50.53 | MentalPower | first of all, you should do your hooks OnLoad, that answers your first question, oh and of course only hook once :) |
| 03:51.13 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 03:51.39 | DoomGaze3 | I've tried that as well. |
| 03:52.05 | DoomGaze3 | In this case, whether I hook OnLoad or OnOpen, it still doesn't call my functions |
| 03:52.14 | MentalPower | also, I don't think you need those event registrations |
| 03:52.21 | MentalPower | are you sure the functions got hooked? |
| 03:52.33 | DoomGaze3 | How do I check that? |
| 03:52.52 | DoomGaze3 | I put a little check in there to make sure the functions are not nil |
| 03:53.01 | DoomGaze3 | And I'm not getting the error message |
| 03:53.07 | MentalPower | ie, if you call GroupLootDropDown_Initialize() or GroupLootDropDown_OnLoad() |
| 03:53.19 | MentalPower | what happens |
| 03:53.40 | DoomGaze3 | Like, use the /script command to call them after hook? |
| 03:53.53 | MentalPower | yep] |
| 03:53.58 | MentalPower | yep* |
| 03:54.34 | DoomGaze3 | I've got a couple messages in there to display if they're called. But WoW certainly isn't calling them. One minute, I will try... |
| 03:54.40 | Cairenn | night KaeltenAway |
| 03:54.49 | KaeltenAway | gnight Cairenn |
| 03:55.25 | MentalPower | oh no! exodus of the ops! |
| 03:55.33 | MentalPower | :) |
| 03:55.45 | Cairenn | I'm still here, so no, you can't party yet |
| 03:55.57 | Cairenn | the celebrations will have to wait |
| 03:57.22 | DoomGaze3 | okay, I've made the modifications you suggested, entering game and testing now... please hold on just a bit longer. :) |
| 03:58.05 | MentalPower | no worries, I'm rewriting my mod for the third time, I'll be here for a while |
| 03:59.35 | DoomGaze3 | yes, the functions are hooked, the message is displayed |
| 04:00.21 | MentalPower | can you paste an update of your code? |
| 04:00.22 | MentalPower | http://pastey.net/ |
| 04:01.17 | MentalPower | just the Lua part |
| 04:02.19 | DoomGaze3 | http://pastey.net/35 |
| 04:02.22 | DoomGaze3 | Too late. :) |
| 04:08.22 | Shadowed | MentalPower: which mod you rewriting? |
| 04:08.30 | MentalPower | Itemizer |
| 04:08.52 | Cairenn | part of auctioneer |
| 04:09.04 | DoomGaze3 | What exactly does Itemizer do anyways? |
| 04:09.04 | MentalPower | its not released yet, there's only a beta copy up on auctioneer's download site |
| 04:09.16 | Cairenn | MentalPower = Auctioneer Lead |
| 04:09.28 | DoomGaze3 | O_o |
| 04:09.28 | Shadowed | yeah i knew he was auctioneer lead, but didn't think he was crazy enough to rewrite it for the third time |
| 04:09.49 | MentalPower | think of it as a LootLink replacement, uses about the same memory but provides a much better search system |
| 04:10.07 | Cairenn | Shadowed: I agree, I was wondering that myself and hoping that it was merely a *part* of Auctioneer that he was rewriting |
| 04:10.12 | DoomGaze3 | nice! |
| 04:11.21 | Shadowed | Although, something of that size could probably find some "Wtf was i thinking" stuff! |
| 04:12.29 | DoomGaze3 | Any ideas MentalPower? |
| 04:12.34 | Shadowed | ooo new patch on PTR |
| 04:12.36 | MentalPower | I find those in auctioneer all the time, but the question really is "What in the world was XYZ dev thinking" |
| 04:12.51 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 04:13.04 | MentalPower | DoomGaze3: doing a bit of research on the LootFrame's dropdown menu |
| 04:13.05 | Shadowed | Did any LUA things change? |
| 04:13.06 | DoomGaze3 | Heh, it's probably one of those Up-Late-and-over-caffinated things |
| 04:13.30 | Shadowed | annnnd is the CSS for wdn broken or is it me? |
| 04:14.13 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 04:14.33 | Cogwheel | not just you... |
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| 04:16.33 | Cairenn | I've let Bela know, both about the new patch and the css being broken |
| 04:16.39 | Shadowed | infact, it's completly broken |
| 04:16.51 | Kirkburn | It was fine earlier :/ |
| 04:16.52 | Shadowed | Clicking the URL's does nothing |
| 04:17.29 | Kirkburn | It's missing one of the styleshseets |
| 04:17.54 | Cairenn | he's checking it now |
| 04:18.14 | Kirkburn | ) |
| 04:18.15 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 04:18.22 | Shadowed | yay! |
| 04:18.51 | Kirkburn | Cool, I've got a working search box |
| 04:19.03 | Shadowed | couple of different changes to LUA it looks like |
| 04:19.06 | Shadowed | *the lua files |
| 04:19.41 | MentalPower | DoomGaze3: after you hook the blizz functions, does the dropdown get populated correctly? |
| 04:20.03 | Shadowed | is anyone on the live realm atm? |
| 04:20.04 | DoomGaze3 | no, the functions are never called. I never see the "hooked fo shizzle" message |
| 04:20.21 | DoomGaze3 | unless I call it manually |
| 04:20.38 | MentalPower | what about the actual dropdown menu, what is its state? |
| 04:20.50 | DoomGaze3 | it's state? |
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| 04:21.28 | MentalPower | ie, you're in a group and you're about to set the loot method |
| 04:21.31 | MentalPower | what happens? |
| 04:21.33 | Cairenn | btw, Beladona's mad at you guys, making him work instead of play :p |
| 04:21.39 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 04:21.42 | MentalPower | lol |
| 04:22.07 | Shadowed | new patch too with file changes! |
| 04:22.27 | Cairenn | he knows, I told him about both the problem and the patch :p |
| 04:22.29 | DoomGaze3 | when I right click my portrait and change the loot method, nothing happens |
| 04:22.53 | Shadowed | hmmm |
| 04:22.59 | Beladona | I don't understand, it is loading the global css, but not the other one |
| 04:23.01 | Shadowed | I think they may have fixed whispering players on different servers |
| 04:23.05 | Beladona | they are there |
| 04:23.08 | Beladona | its very weird |
| 04:23.11 | Shadowed | ERR_IGNORE_AMBIGUOUS = "That name is ambiguous, type more of the player's server name"; |
| 04:23.14 | DoomGaze3 | this is intended to add my entry to the drop down with the names in it when you click to distribute an item |
| 04:24.06 | MentalPower | so you right click your portrait and no dropdown appears? |
| 04:24.22 | DoomGaze3 | the drop down appears and I can set Master Loot mode just fine |
| 04:25.09 | DoomGaze3 | But when I click to distribute an item, I find my function hasn't been called. The button does not appear. |
| 04:25.36 | DoomGaze3 | Say for example, Magister's Robe drops and I have master loot mode set. |
| 04:25.58 | DoomGaze3 | When I click the item in the loot window to distribute the item, a list of names pops up |
| 04:25.59 | Kirkburn | Beladona, I only saw one in the code |
| 04:26.07 | DoomGaze3 | That list of names is where I'd like to add my entry |
| 04:27.17 | DoomGaze3 | Are we on the same page? :D |
| 04:27.22 | MentalPower | we are now |
| 04:28.00 | DoomGaze3 | Cool |
| 04:28.01 | MentalPower | so instead of giving it to some random person you want to "give" it to your addon to process |
| 04:28.05 | Beladona | Kirkburn: I know. There is a global css and one specific to each page. These are combined via php into a single css file. The weird thing is, it works fine when loaded directly |
| 04:28.09 | DoomGaze3 | Exactly. |
| 04:28.26 | DoomGaze3 | You can see I have a function prototyped to do just that |
| 04:28.48 | Kirkburn | =P This is going to be a circular conversation, I know, you know, we know ... why doesn't IT know?! =) |
| 04:29.00 | Beladona | makes me wonder if something weird changed on the server |
| 04:29.09 | MentalPower | DoomGaze3: yeah, it makes sense now, I was looking at the wrong thing |
| 04:29.15 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 04:29.19 | Shadowed | whats the function to convert a string to a number in lua again? something like parseint, getint, can't remember which |
| 04:29.30 | MentalPower | tostring() |
| 04:29.35 | MentalPower | err... |
| 04:29.38 | MentalPower | tonumber() |
| 04:29.43 | Shadowed | that one! thanks |
| 04:29.48 | Cairenn | blame Dolby-wowi |
| 04:29.55 | DoomGaze3 | doesn't lua handle type conversions automagically? |
| 04:30.02 | Cairenn | hey now |
| 04:30.24 | Beladona | found it |
| 04:30.32 | MentalPower | DoomGaze3: yes, but you sometimes want to force it to some type |
| 04:30.36 | Beladona | they updated php, and when they did, they turned register_globals off |
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| 04:30.44 | Beladona | is Dolby here? |
| 04:30.48 | Shadowed | ooopsss |
| 04:30.57 | kergoth | iirc it only converts between string and number on the fly in certain circumstances, not in all contexts |
| 04:31.04 | kergoth | but my memory sucks, so who knows |
| 04:31.23 | MentalPower | "5"+7 = 12 |
| 04:31.35 | Cairenn | sent him an IM asking him to check in channel if he is able, awaiting reply |
| 04:31.46 | MentalPower | "5"..7 = "75" |
| 04:31.53 | MentalPower | "5"..7 = "57" |
| 04:31.59 | Beladona | I can fix it in my code by registering the globals, but that will take some time |
| 04:31.59 | Shadowed | It's for timer scheduling and the value is user inputted |
| 04:32.00 | Shadowed | and well |
| 04:32.03 | Shadowed | users are idiots |
| 04:34.23 | Beladona | fixed the css, but other stuff is broken too |
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| 04:41.45 | Kirkburn | Beautiful :P |
| 04:41.52 | DoomGaze3 | What? |
| 04:42.22 | Shadowed | wdn works! |
| 04:42.24 | DoomGaze3 | linky |
| 04:42.29 | Shadowed | thanks bel |
| 04:42.43 | Kirkburn | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 04:42.50 | Beladona | its fixed |
| 04:43.09 | Beladona | they turned register_globals back on, just after I finished registering all my globals |
| 04:43.18 | Beladona | but at least now if it happens again, I don't be down |
| 04:43.27 | Beladona | won't * |
| 04:43.42 | MentalPower | DoomGaze3: I'm still looking at it |
| 04:43.58 | DoomGaze3 | That's cool. I'm still here. :) |
| 04:44.09 | Rozr | sorry I got d/c'd earlier someone was trying to explain how a hook works, my questioning example of what i took was: if the official blizzard function is: function myFunct(x) x = x + 2; end then in myMod.lua I would have: myMod_myFunct = myFunct; myFunct(x) x = x*x; myMod_myFunct(x); end ---> then when calling myFunct(10); x would essencially (before the function ends anyways sinc eit doesnt returna nythin |
| 04:44.10 | Rozr | g hehe) be 102, rather htan 12 |
| 04:44.15 | Rozr | or am I still not undersatnding it right |
| 04:44.17 | Beladona | and yes, I know about the PTR, it may be late tonight before it is up |
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| 04:45.06 | DoomGaze3 | it's like a pointer rozr |
| 04:45.25 | DoomGaze3 | All you're doing is swapping your function in place of the target function |
| 04:45.42 | Rozr | DoomGaze3, okay tahts not what I was told now I"m confused |
| 04:45.51 | Rozr | so I want to make a replica of the original |
| 04:45.54 | Rozr | + my changes |
| 04:45.56 | Rozr | ? |
| 04:46.56 | MentalPower | its usually a bad idea to replace the original function |
| 04:47.05 | DoomGaze3 | Usually the way it's done is Orig_FooFunc = FooFunc; FooFunc = My_FooFuc |
| 04:47.10 | MentalPower | since any mods that come before you will break |
| 04:47.42 | DoomGaze3 | then you call the original inside yours. like function My_FooFunc() -- do stuff -- Orig_FooFunc(); end |
| 04:48.15 | Beladona | they are turning globals off again, so if anyone notices something not working right on wdn, let me know |
| 04:48.22 | DoomGaze3 | You could try using a hooking library |
| 04:48.23 | Beladona | so I can fix it asap |
| 04:48.47 | Rozr | DoomGaze3, that doesnt make sense, why pass it around 3 times? |
| 04:48.55 | Shadowed | Beladona: PTR is up |
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| 04:49.09 | Shadowed | i'm on it right now |
| 04:49.10 | Rozr | why not just cal my stuf in FooFunc() ? |
| 04:49.21 | Rozr | and cut out My_FooFunc |
| 04:49.22 | DoomGaze3 | So that you can still find the original function. Unless you're totally rewriting a function (bad idea), you need the original |
| 04:50.01 | Rozr | ooooo I see |
| 04:50.06 | Rozr | sorry I was interpreting your anmes wrong |
| 04:50.25 | Rozr | Ithought ou were saying orig_foofunc was the original, an wehre just passing it through 2 diff pointers |
| 04:50.31 | Rozr | now that makes more sense |
| 04:50.56 | DoomGaze3 | no, it's just a place to keep it. Depending on the circumstances, you can Un-hook it too, but that's quite a bit trickier methinks |
| 04:52.25 | DoomGaze3 | So you're essentially saving the original so you can add functionality. You almost always want to call the original in your function. |
| 04:52.57 | Rozr | yes i underantd now |
| 04:53.07 | Kirkburn | Wewt: http://chig3.georgepribul.eu/index.html |
| 04:53.08 | Rozr | I misinterpreted your function names an got confused |
| 04:53.28 | Kirov | kirk - nice |
| 04:53.30 | DoomGaze3 | gotcha |
| 04:53.49 | Rozr | local dialog = StaticPopup_Show("CONFIRM_LOOT_DISTRIBUTION", ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[LootFrame.selectedQuality].hex..LootFrame.selectedItemName..FONT_COLOR_CODE_CLOSE, this:GetText()); |
| 04:53.50 | Rozr | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.19 | Kirkburn | Thanks Kirov =) Still needs lots of work - like the fact the page doesn't lengthen properly :P |
| 04:54.26 | Kirov | kirk - I actually like how it looks in IE6 |
| 04:54.51 | MentalPower | DoomGaze3: I found something wrong, but I'm not sure if its the source of your problem |
| 04:54.54 | Kirkburn | What's it look like in IE6?? |
| 04:55.10 | DoomGaze3 | MentalPower: I'll take anything I can get. :) |
| 04:56.15 | MentalPower | DoomGaze3: You see GroupLootDropDown_OnLoad() is defined and called in the OnLoad of the LootFrame.xml. Your AddOn is loaded WAY after the FrameXML is done, so your hook of that function is never called |
| 04:56.41 | Kirov | kirk - the rounded bits are doubled / tripled |
| 04:57.02 | DoomGaze3 | I have tried inserting a debug message inside my hook, and it displays correctly |
| 04:57.03 | MentalPower | so, I "think" that if you just call MasterLooter_GroupLootDropDown_OnLoad() in your HookGroupLootDropDown() function, all "should" be well |
| 04:57.36 | Kirkburn | Could you do a screenie? |
| 04:57.57 | DoomGaze3 | ohh, wait... |
| 04:58.01 | Rozr | hwo would I go about taking this dialog box: local dialog = StaticPopup_Show("CONFIRM_LOOT_DISTRIBUTION", ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[LootFrame.selectedQuality].hex..LootFrame.selectedItemName..FONT_COLOR_CODE_CLOSE, this:GetText()); |
| 04:58.01 | Rozr | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.27 | Beladona | only 22 total changes in new PTR |
| 04:58.30 | Rozr | or is that not possibe since its a static popup |
| 04:58.31 | Beladona | since last PTR that is |
| 04:58.51 | MentalPower | Rozr: just modify the static popup's table before its shown |
| 04:59.15 | Rozr | in the xml file? |
| 04:59.15 | Shadowed | Looks like they added two new functions though |
| 04:59.19 | Shadowed | And fixed a lot of things |
| 04:59.27 | MentalPower | nop, programatically in Lua |
| 04:59.37 | MentalPower | lemme cook up an example |
| 05:00.05 | Kirkburn | I like how they totally forgot to change the tocs for the first PTR |
| 05:00.32 | MentalPower | yeah, that was funny |
| 05:01.39 | DoomGaze3 | MentalPower: I'll try it now... |
| 05:01.56 | Kirkburn | I'd say it's likely I won't be sleeping tonight (it's just gone 6am) |
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| 05:03.30 | MentalPower | Rozr: http://pastey.net/36 |
| 05:04.13 | Kirov | kirk - http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/IE6Chigwell.jpg |
| 05:04.17 | Rozr | oooo even better |
| 05:04.27 | Rozr | I can just change "CONFIRM_LOOT_DISTRIBUTION" |
| 05:04.32 | Rozr | to something of my own accord |
| 05:04.38 | Rozr | no? |
| 05:05.25 | MentalPower | yep |
| 05:07.17 | DoomGaze3 | MentalPower: Since MasterLooter_GroupLootDropDown_OnLoad() is being called from my frame, wouldn't that fuzz up the references to this. in UIDropDownMenu_Initialize? |
| 05:07.45 | DoomGaze3 | oop, nm |
| 05:07.50 | Rozr | okay wait, mentalpower: your example makes sense but what if I dont want to add text? |
| 05:07.53 | DoomGaze3 | it should work |
| 05:08.08 | MentalPower | Rozr: what do you want to do then? |
| 05:08.57 | Rozr | MentalPower, I want to take the CONFIRM_LOOT_DISTRIBUTION dialot, and add an empty text field inbetween the text and the buttons, and have what is entered in that field assigned to a variable |
| 05:09.27 | Rozr | ie, when masterlooter chooses who gets the item, window comes up said to confirm, and asks you to enter the dkp value of the item |
| 05:09.53 | DoomGaze3 | MentalPower: Assuming this works, should I delete the hooks entirely? |
| 05:10.07 | MentalPower | I don't think you can add an editbox to those, but lemme check |
| 05:10.32 | MentalPower | DoomGaze3: you can eliminate the hook to the OnLoad function, but I think you still need to hook the Initialize one |
| 05:12.09 | Rozr | mental: then how woudl I replace that with someone that would? |
| 05:12.55 | MentalPower | oh, nm, you can |
| 05:12.56 | Rozr | wait yes you can |
| 05:13.01 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 05:13.04 | Rozr | hasEditBox = 1, |
| 05:13.19 | MentalPower | http://pastey.net/37 |
| 05:14.11 | MentalPower | I said I was checking :) |
| 05:17.51 | DoomGaze3 | MentalPower: OMG, I think it works! Testing for sure in a minute... |
| 05:18.07 | MentalPower | :) |
| 05:24.37 | Kirkburn | Kirov, that's odd - I wonder why everything is getting doubled up |
| 05:30.14 | Shadowed | it was probably mean of me to kite a shaman around on the PTR for 12 minutes |
| 05:30.21 | Flyoc | anybody using nurfed combat log here ? |
| 05:31.54 | DoomGaze3 | MentalPower: It most definitely works!!! Thanks a ton! |
| 05:32.14 | MentalPower | awesome! |
| 05:32.39 | DoomGaze3 | Now I know not to hook Init and OnLoad functions. :D |
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| 05:33.23 | DoomGaze3 | Not bad for a Lua nub now is it? :D |
| 05:33.49 | DoomGaze3 | This is gonna be my first mod |
| 05:33.58 | DoomGaze3 | And the biggest hurdle has been overcome |
| 05:46.33 | DoomGaze3 | MentalPower: Do table manipulation functions work in WoW? |
| 05:46.41 | MentalPower | yes |
| 05:46.45 | DoomGaze3 | awesome |
| 05:46.49 | DoomGaze3 | I need to make a q |
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| 05:47.29 | MentalPower | the only two functions tables that I know are not present in WoW are the os and file tables |
| 05:49.18 | krka | and coroutine |
| 05:49.24 | DoomGaze3 | Great! Now I just need to learn how to make a table. |
| 05:51.24 | Hexarobi | noooo |
| 05:51.25 | Hexarobi | not that! |
| 05:51.48 | DoomGaze3 | I take it a lot of peeps come in here not having read the doc eh? |
| 05:51.57 | Hexarobi | im serious |
| 05:52.02 | DoomGaze3 | y not? |
| 05:52.07 | Hexarobi | i dont believe in sarcasm |
| 05:52.23 | DoomGaze3 | what do you suggest I read to learn tables then? |
| 05:52.58 | DoomGaze3 | I'm open to ideas |
| 05:53.12 | MentalPower | the Lua docs are a good place to start |
| 05:53.33 | MentalPower | but like most things in life, you have to get your hands dirty to actually "learn" then |
| 05:53.38 | MentalPower | them* |
| 05:53.56 | DoomGaze3 | is a table the same thing as an array? |
| 05:53.59 | Hexarobi | u mean the table data type? |
| 05:54.08 | DoomGaze3 | ya |
| 05:54.11 | Hexarobi | its like an array, but looser typed |
| 05:54.15 | Cowheel|away | similar |
| 05:54.15 | Hexarobi | myTable = {}; |
| 05:54.28 | DoomGaze3 | How do I make a 2d table? |
| 05:54.29 | Hexarobi | myTable[1] = "blah1"; |
| 05:54.51 | Hexarobi | myTable[i+j] = "blah"..i+j; |
| 05:55.16 | DoomGaze3 | I don't get the i+j part |
| 05:55.17 | MentalPower | table1 = { table2 = {} } |
| 05:55.22 | Hexarobi | myTable[(x*row_length)+y] = "blah"..x..","..y; |
| 05:55.49 | Hexarobi | err y*row_length+x |
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| 05:56.30 | DoomGaze3 | so all tables are actually 1d and we fake 2d? |
| 05:56.48 | Hexarobi | im not sure if theyre all that way, but thats the way i do em |
| 05:57.01 | Hexarobi | you must be able to make a table of tables |
| 05:57.21 | Hexarobi | myTable1 = {}; |
| 05:57.31 | Hexarobi | myTable2 = {}; |
| 05:57.41 | Hexarobi | myTable1[1] = myTable2; |
| 05:57.59 | Hexarobi | myTable1[1][1] = "the first element of table2 |
| 05:58.13 | Hexarobi | dunno if that works |
| 05:58.32 | DoomGaze3 | that would be awesome if it did |
| 05:58.45 | DoomGaze3 | I'm much more comfortable with C++ syntax |
| 05:59.19 | Rozr | same |
| 05:59.31 | Rozr | that and perl ftw |
| 06:00.45 | MentalPower | Hexarobi: yes it works |
| 06:01.01 | DoomGaze3 | That's mega awesome! I'm adding that NOW |
| 06:01.45 | MentalPower | in Lua arrays == tables == dictionaries |
| 06:01.56 | MentalPower | they're all the same |
| 06:02.33 | Rozr | k Old_GroupLootDropDown_GiveLoot() = GroupLootDropDown_GiveLoot(); gives me "unexpected symbol near `=' |
| 06:04.16 | Cowheel|away | drop the parentheses |
| 06:04.44 | Cowheel|away | the parentheses are used to call the function... you are accessing the functions themselves, not the values they return... |
| 06:06.12 | DoomGaze3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.38 | Hexarobi | that was meant to be for 2d |
| 06:06.55 | Hexarobi | i meant: myTable[(y*row_length)+x] = "blah"..x..","..y; |
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| 06:09.01 | Hexarobi | does that make sense in x and y form? |
| 06:09.17 | DoomGaze3 | I'm a bit fuzzy on the concatenation you're doing with the strungs |
| 06:09.24 | DoomGaze3 | *strings |
| 06:09.31 | Hexarobi | .. is the concatenation operator in lua |
| 06:09.33 | Rozr | what about "'EOF' End of file expected near 'end' : line 960 (thats hte end of the file...and ther is an end ..... |
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| 06:09.53 | Hexarobi | you have an extra end somewhere rozr |
| 06:10.06 | DoomGaze3 | right, but why "blah"..x..","..y;? |
| 06:10.18 | Hexarobi | that would print out like blah2,2 |
| 06:10.23 | DoomGaze3 | right |
| 06:10.24 | Hexarobi | for grid space 2,2 |
| 06:10.35 | Hexarobi | but if say its an 8x8 grid |
| 06:10.37 | DoomGaze3 | why would you want to print that? |
| 06:10.47 | DoomGaze3 | I just want the info, I already know where it's stored |
| 06:10.51 | Hexarobi | then 2,2 is actually stored in 8*2+2 = 18 |
| 06:11.05 | Hexarobi | just to show how its being stored |
| 06:11.10 | DoomGaze3 | ah |
| 06:11.10 | Hexarobi | not something youd actually want to do |
| 06:11.24 | Hexarobi | in most cases anyways ;) |
| 06:12.30 | DoomGaze3 | do tables start at 0 or 1? |
| 06:12.42 | DoomGaze3 | or can they start at "foo"? |
| 06:13.00 | MentalPower | 1 |
| 06:13.02 | DoomGaze3 | like var = MyTable["Foo"] |
| 06:13.07 | MentalPower | yes |
| 06:13.33 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 06:13.56 | MentalPower | they're actually quite neat |
| 06:14.13 | MentalPower | you can even do "Auctioneer.Statistic.GetHSP()" |
| 06:14.15 | DoomGaze3 | I like how flexible they are, but syntactically, quite confusing |
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| 06:19.04 | Rozr | http://pastey.net/38 getting nil value for My_GroupLootDropDown_GiveLoot() |
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| 06:22.39 | norganna | you need an extra end at line 42 methinks: http://pastey.net/38?hi=42 |
| 06:23.13 | norganna | oh and the function keyword before line 38 |
| 06:23.20 | Cairenn | hey norgs :) didn't see you sneak in |
| 06:23.30 | norganna | i bin here for daaaaaays. :) |
| 06:23.31 | Rozr | norganna, no addg the end gives me a EOF error |
| 06:23.52 | norganna | yeah - add the function keyword at the start of linke 38 |
| 06:23.59 | norganna | *line |
| 06:24.11 | Rozr | ooo the function keyword will fix that |
| 06:24.11 | Rozr | thanks |
| 06:27.37 | DoomGaze3 | MentalPower: Okay, so my button on the drop down works. So when it gets called, this would be GroupLootDropDown right? |
| 06:28.03 | MentalPower | I believe so, yes |
| 06:28.56 | MentalPower | this:GetName() to be sure |
| 06:30.35 | DoomGaze3 | what's the difference between this. and this:? |
| 06:31.46 | MentalPower | this:GetName() == this.GetName(this) |
| 06:31.59 | MentalPower | its lua's way of being able to do OO |
| 06:32.36 | DoomGaze3 | So it's not OO and is OO at the same time. Neat. |
| 06:32.59 | MentalPower | yep |
| 06:33.07 | MentalPower | Lua can be anything you want it to be basically |
| 06:37.52 | DoomGaze3 | Interesting. A LootButton is not a frame, it's a LootButton |
| 06:38.14 | MentalPower | its a frame |
| 06:38.31 | MentalPower | what makes you think otherwhise? |
| 06:38.42 | DoomGaze3 | XML for lootframe |
| 06:38.57 | DoomGaze3 | LootFrame.xml |
| 06:39.09 | DoomGaze3 | no Frame is defined for a loot button, just the tag LootButton |
| 06:39.47 | MentalPower | that's because LootButton is a type of Frame |
| 06:40.20 | MentalPower | you can see inheritance here http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 06:40.35 | DoomGaze3 | nice! that'll be handy |
| 06:40.35 | MentalPower | or by looking at the UI.xsd file (if you know XML) |
| 06:41.08 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 06:42.26 | DoomGaze3 | are events always fired by WoW or can they be generated in code? |
| 06:43.06 | MentalPower | events are only fired by WoW |
| 06:43.18 | MentalPower | although you can "simulate" an event for your own addon |
| 06:43.49 | DoomGaze3 | I would imagine that would involve hacking the stack |
| 06:43.57 | MentalPower | not really |
| 06:44.14 | MentalPower | just set the event global and the args and call your own function |
| 06:44.47 | MentalPower | event = "SOME_EVENT" arg1 = "Some Random Arg" YourOnEventFunction() |
| 06:45.21 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 06:46.58 | DoomGaze3 | OnUpdate is fired every frame correct? |
| 06:48.44 | Kirov | if the frame :IsVisible(), yes |
| 06:48.51 | MentalPower | just before every frame |
| 06:49.45 | DoomGaze3 | I don't have any UI associated with this frame yet, but it should still be "visible" right? |
| 06:50.03 | MentalPower | yep |
| 06:50.14 | MentalPower | frame:IsVisible() |
| 06:50.15 | DoomGaze3 | awesome, this is coming together nicely |
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| 06:53.03 | Esamynn | Evening all |
| 06:53.09 | Cairenn | evening Esamynn |
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| 06:53.17 | Esamynn | oh dang, I missed Iriel huh? |
| 06:54.25 | Shadowed | By about 5 hours! |
| 06:54.35 | Esamynn | yah yah :P |
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| 06:55.59 | Esamynn | yah, I was trying to reproduce that nil value that Rislyn was running into, but no luck, has anyone else tried it? |
| 06:58.03 | Esamynn | grrr, dang forums stress test! :( |
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| 07:00.59 | DoomGaze3 | table.insert shifts up, so if I want to insert an item at the very beginning of the table, do I do table.insert(MyTable, table_start-1, foo);? |
| 07:01.51 | kergoth | table.insert(MyTable, 1, foo) |
| 07:02.00 | kergoth | read the lua manual |
| 07:02.10 | DoomGaze3 | I am, and the shift up part confused me |
| 07:02.35 | MentalPower | are you sure it shifts up? |
| 07:02.40 | DoomGaze3 | says up |
| 07:02.46 | kergoth | it does not. at least if up is referring to lower indexes |
| 07:02.58 | norganna | well, 2 is up from 1 |
| 07:03.22 | kergoth | aye, depends on how you interpret it |
| 07:03.24 | norganna | well, you wouldn't say 2 is down from 1 |
| 07:03.36 | norganna | would you? |
| 07:03.43 | MentalPower | true |
| 07:04.14 | norganna | maybe sifts right would have been better way of explaining it |
| 07:04.15 | kergoth | it depends on whether you think of a table as growing up or growing down. i think of the first element at the top of the table, not the bottom, at first |
| 07:04.18 | norganna | *shifts |
| 07:04.47 | kergoth | shifts to larger or higher indices would probably have been clearer |
| 07:08.35 | Cairenn | okay, time for me to pass out, night folks |
| 07:08.43 | kergoth | night |
| 07:08.52 | Hexarobi | night |
| 07:09.11 | MentalPower | night Cair |
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| 07:16.54 | MentalPower | gnight folks |
| 07:21.00 | DoomGaze3 | cya |
| 07:21.04 | DoomGaze3 | Thanks for all your help! |
| 07:22.11 | Rozr | DoomGaze3, damn finally testig it cz got riad an dgreen drop |
| 07:23.04 | Esamynn | night mental |
| 07:23.05 | Rozr | http://pastey.net/38?hi=42 judging by this code do you see any reason why i click item, see group 1, abe to see ppl in group 1, but when I click on a name nothing happens |
| 07:24.24 | Rozr | ie its not initiating the GiveMasterLoot(LootFrame.selectedSlot, this.value); |
| 07:25.16 | DoomGaze3 | yeah, testing loot functions is a pain in the ass |
| 07:25.25 | DoomGaze3 | I'm running into the same issues myself |
| 07:25.55 | Rozr | damn |
| 07:26.25 | Rozr | if you find out solution can you query me with any information that coud e helpful, as will I if i figure it out |
| 07:27.03 | Rozr | its a pain in the ass to test also, cuz you gotta fin dsooene else to join raid, and then grind til you get an uncommon dorp |
| 07:27.04 | Rozr | drop |
| 07:29.51 | DoomGaze3 | Can anyone direct me to a resource on how to make a timer? |
| 07:32.02 | Rozr | in lua? |
| 07:32.10 | DoomGaze3 | in WoW |
| 07:32.15 | DoomGaze3 | like |
| 07:32.31 | DoomGaze3 | I need to make an auction timer. Auction lasts for x seconds, for example |
| 07:32.46 | DoomGaze3 | I know I need to do something in the frame OnUpdate |
| 07:34.44 | DoomGaze3 | hmm |
| 07:36.17 | Rozr | http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=50397 |
| 07:36.29 | Rozr | http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/repos/ion-scripts-3/scripts/schedule.lua |
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| 07:37.58 | Rozr | http://lua.uknnet.com/thread.php?postid=9043&sid=43bc9e0c18371437c1b92ac7391edefb#post9043 |
| 07:38.47 | Rozr | http://www.indigorose.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13085.html |
| 07:38.50 | Rozr | one of those otta do it |
| 07:40.26 | Elkano | ~seen iriel |
| 07:40.30 | purl | iriel <n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 33m 8s ago, saying: 'You can at least look into each one ONCE'. |
| 08:01.17 | Kirkburn1 | Iriel was here earlier today, wasn't that long ago |
| 08:02.00 | Kirkburn1 | ~seen Iriel|working |
| 08:02.13 | purl | iriel|working <n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 8h 38m 31s ago, saying: '8-)'. |
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| 08:31.35 | DoomGaze3 | anyone here? |
| 08:31.47 | DoomGaze3 | got a quick question |
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| 08:48.49 | wereHamster | DoomGaze3, just ask |
| 08:51.25 | Kirkburn1 | DoomGaze3, it's best just to type out any questions, many people look at this channel in passing :) |
| 08:54.39 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 08:54.55 | DoomGaze3 | My IDE is giving me an error on this function: |
| 08:55.30 | DoomGaze3 | function IsItemInQ() if (#lootQ > 0) then return true else return false end end |
| 08:55.34 | DoomGaze3 | and I don't know why |
| 08:56.38 | wereHamster | '#lootQ' not a valid lua 5.0 expression |
| 08:56.52 | DoomGaze3 | there's no unary length operator in 5.0? |
| 08:57.03 | wereHamster | table.getn(lootQ) |
| 08:57.10 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 08:57.16 | wereHamster | is the closest you can get |
| 08:58.34 | DoomGaze3 | Also, in Lua, are member variables declared implicitly? Like is this valid: local foo; foo.morefoo = 1; |
| 08:59.23 | Mery | local foo = {}; foo.morefoo = 1; |
| 08:59.38 | DoomGaze3 | kk |
| 08:59.43 | Mery | or you get an "try to index nil" error |
| 09:02.06 | Thrae | Mery: There are no "member variables" in Lua. Instead, foo.morefoo is a hash, the same as foo["morefoo"]. The hash is calculated and the value of 1 is added to its location. |
| 09:05.20 | DoomGaze3 | table.getn() returns the number of elements in the table, correct? like: local foo = {}; foo[1] = "thisfoo"; foo[2] = "thatfoo"; table.getn(foo) == 2 |
| 09:06.16 | Thrae | DoomGaze3: Only if you use table.insert or set the value of n manually. |
| 09:06.25 | wereHamster | DoomGaze3, not correct, table.getn({"morefoo"=1}) returns '0' |
| 09:07.07 | wereHamster | table.getn({[2]=1}) = 0 |
| 09:08.51 | DoomGaze3 | I don't understand your notation there. |
| 09:09.46 | DoomGaze3 | {[2]=1} declares a table and puts 1 in element 2 |
| 09:10.07 | DoomGaze3 | element 1 is nil, so getn returns 0 |
| 09:10.08 | DoomGaze3 | right? |
| 09:10.12 | wereHamster | yes |
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| 09:12.13 | DoomGaze3 | returning to the previous example: local foo = {}; foo.thisfoo = "somefoo"; foo.thisfoo2 = "morefoo"; table.getn(foo) == 2 correct? |
| 09:12.59 | wereHamster | no |
| 09:14.10 | DoomGaze3 | So, the only way to get table.getn() to return a reliable value is to use it's table.insert() function |
| 09:14.11 | wereHamster | function table.getn(tbl) for i=1,1000 do if (tbl[i] == nil) return i - 1 end return 0 end |
| 09:14.18 | wereHamster | that's more or less the implementation |
| 09:16.41 | wereHamster | and table.insert is something like this: table.insert(tbl, val) tbl[table.getn(tbl)+1] = val end |
| 09:17.12 | DoomGaze3 | where is the nil inserted then? I'm really confused about this function. |
| 09:18.29 | wereHamster | nil means nothing/non-existent, the value at index 'i' doesn't exist |
| 09:18.29 | kergoth | i think you need to read the lua manual on tables. |
| 09:18.56 | Mery | http://lua-users.org/wiki/TableLibraryTutorial |
| 09:22.39 | DoomGaze3 | gotcha |
| 09:24.36 | DoomGaze3 | Thanks for the link, lotsa useful info on this wiki |
| 09:39.55 | krka|work | i don't really get why lua doesn't implement a real number of elements-counter |
| 09:40.05 | krka|work | getn / setn seems hackish |
| 09:43.14 | Thrae | ~botsnack |
| 09:43.14 | purl | thanks, Thrae |
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| 10:44.07 | ckknight | krka, it works well enough |
| 10:44.45 | ckknight | wereHamster, also, it checks for the n key as well |
| 10:44.57 | ckknight | table.getn({n = 1000}) == 1000 |
| 10:45.02 | ckknight | e.g. |
| 10:45.26 | ckknight | {[1] = "hey", [2] = nil, [3] = "there", n = 3} |
| 10:45.32 | ckknight | for that, getn gives 3 |
| 10:45.39 | ckknight | if n weren't available, it'd be 1 |
| 10:45.46 | Mikk | 0 |
| 10:46.34 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 10:46.57 | ckknight | 0? |
| 10:47.04 | Mikk | my bad |
| 10:47.13 | Mikk | indeed 1 |
| 10:47.26 | Mikk | seemed to remember n not increasing unless you were tinsert()ing |
| 10:48.10 | ckknight | apparently not |
| 10:48.28 | ckknight | either way, the n hack allows you to have nils inside lists |
| 10:49.19 | ckknight | which can be handy |
| 10:49.48 | krka|work | i prefer to keep track of size and/or max key manually, dunno why :) |
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| 12:36.22 | Thrae | Darn WoWI comment system, I just commented on a comment made 1 month ago because I forgot it moves you down to the EARLIEST comment when you make a comment. |
| 12:37.11 | Elessdy | congratulations. haha |
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| 12:43.43 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:44.01 | Corrodias | noon |
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| 12:50.33 | JoshBorke | night |
| 12:52.34 | Corrodias | dusk~ |
| 12:57.47 | wereHamster | dawn |
| 12:58.29 | Corrodias | twilight. >:o |
| 12:58.53 | JoshBorke | midnight :-) |
| 13:11.32 | JoshBorke | does anyone have an example of a frame with a horizontal scrollbar? |
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| 13:23.19 | s|loup | just a statusbar? |
| 13:23.42 | s|loup | oh srollbar |
| 13:23.43 | JoshBorke | no, like a slider |
| 13:23.55 | JoshBorke | yea, scrollbar :-) |
| 13:25.29 | s|loup | hm i have a scrollfram where scrollbar is included internal as i think |
| 13:32.16 | s|loup | http://pastebin.ca/103703 |
| 13:32.58 | s|loup | oh wait i have also a horizontal slider i think |
| 13:33.57 | s|loup | http://pastebin.ca/103706 |
| 13:47.10 | Hexarobee | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Scrollable_List_Using_FauxScrollFrameTemplate |
| 13:47.20 | Hexarobee | thats how to for vertical if it helps |
| 13:56.05 | Tem | it's basically a static set of text elements with a vertical slider on one side |
| 13:56.10 | JoshBorke | yea, i've seen the vertical. but i don't know if i need to use FauxScrollFrameTemplate |
| 13:56.36 | Tem | the text elements has a function to pain each one that uses the slider:GetValue() to determine where in the list to start |
| 13:56.57 | Tem | s/pain/paint/ |
| 13:57.04 | Tem | the an OnValueChanged script handler for the slider that calls the paint method for the text elements |
| 13:57.09 | Tem | s/the/then/ |
| 13:58.22 | JoshBorke | i'm using textures and i want to change the height/color of the texture based on the scroll position. would it be best to use FauxScrollFrameTemplate in that case? |
| 13:59.07 | Tem | doesn't matter what template you use-- if any |
| 13:59.22 | Tem | it's still a vertical slider with an OnValueChanged method |
| 14:00.40 | JoshBorke | ok, then how can i make a horizontal scroll bar? i don't understand this texture rotation stuff they do in the XML |
| 14:01.14 | Tem | use a horizontal slider? |
| 14:01.41 | JoshBorke | i've got the slider, but i want it to look like a scrollbar :-) |
| 14:02.09 | Tem | look for an instance in the default UI where it uses a horizontal scrollbar |
| 14:02.14 | Tem | and find its code |
| 14:02.21 | Tem | I can't think of any offhand |
| 14:02.26 | Tem | but they've got to be there somewhere |
| 14:02.46 | Hexarobee | i dont think in the default |
| 14:03.41 | zinor | did you all see the new expansion infos |
| 14:04.05 | zinor | that coilfang instance sounds good |
| 14:05.39 | Tem | and JoshBorke, if you have to rotate a texture, it would only be by 90degrees. |
| 14:06.13 | Tem | and a rotation that's a multiple of 90 is easy to get your head around |
| 14:06.32 | Hexarobee | the fauxchat frame just handles making the scroll bar with arrow buttons and capturing mousewheel events i think |
| 14:06.41 | Hexarobee | its basically a fancy slider bar |
| 14:06.47 | Hexarobee | and all it does is pass you the offset |
| 14:06.55 | JoshBorke | Tem: you give me too much credit |
| 14:07.00 | Hexarobee | and you have to handle scrolling the contents from the offset |
| 14:07.12 | JoshBorke | Tem: did i mention i'm trying to do this in Lua? ^_^ |
| 14:07.17 | Tem | no that's fine |
| 14:07.27 | Tem | I haven't created an XML file since 1.10 |
| 14:07.43 | Tem | s = CreateFrame("Slider") |
| 14:07.51 | Tem | s:SetOrientation("HORIZONTAL") |
| 14:08.15 | Tem | s:SetScript("OnValueChanged",myPaintMethod) |
| 14:08.28 | Tem | s:SetMinMaxValues(0,myListSize) |
| 14:08.39 | Tem | etc |
| 14:11.09 | Hexarobee | CreateFrame("ScrollFrame", "myScrollFrame", this, "FauxScrollFrameTemplate") |
| 14:11.35 | Hexarobee | this being the parent |
| 14:12.10 | Tem | ScrollFrames are for *real* scroll frames |
| 14:12.28 | Tem | when you are faking it, I think you are supposed to use a slider that looks like one |
| 14:12.31 | Tem | but I'm not sure |
| 14:12.54 | JoshBorke | yea, i'm faking it. just not sure how to make the slider look like a scroll frame |
| 14:13.12 | Hexarobee | the scrollframe is just a goodlooking slider |
| 14:13.27 | JoshBorke | no, FauxScrollFrame also includes another frame |
| 14:13.50 | Hexarobee | then hook <OnHorizontalScroll> FauxScrollFrame_OnHorizontalScroll(pixelWidth, myUpdateFunction); |
| 14:14.13 | JoshBorke | i don't need to hook if i just create my own frame that looks like it |
| 14:17.34 | JoshBorke | anyone have a link to how to rotate textures? ^_^ |
| 14:17.43 | JoshBorke | bkm |
| 14:17.44 | JoshBorke | nvm |
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| 14:33.13 | Tem | JoshBorke, basically you use SetTexCoord to change which corner is mapped where |
| 14:33.33 | Tem | for circular rotations that opens a whole can of worms that I haven't brought myself to open |
| 14:33.49 | Tem | for right angle rotations it's a matter of switching out corners |
| 14:34.08 | JoshBorke | hm, ok |
| 14:35.24 | JoshBorke | but really, i could just copy the last 2 lines of Iriel's tutorial? |
| 14:35.45 | Tem | not sure |
| 14:35.52 | JoshBorke | doesn't appear to be the case :-/ |
| 14:47.40 | JoshBorke | where's Mikk when you need him :-/ |
| 14:49.36 | JoshBorke | heh, nvm, he didn't do this either... |
| 14:52.34 | Tem | ooh |
| 14:52.38 | Tem | I found a bug |
| 14:53.42 | Tem | when the combat log lists a partial resist, it doesn't display the right amount when it's a crit |
| 14:53.46 | Tem | for exmaple: |
| 14:54.11 | Tem | Your Fireblast crits Flamescale Wyrmkin for 518 (345 resisted) |
| 14:54.15 | Tem | that's wrong |
| 14:54.41 | Tem | it should say Your Fireblast crits Flamescale Wyrmkin fir 518 (518 resisted) |
| 14:55.48 | Tem | the ammount resisted is always off by the crit bonus |
| 14:56.21 | Tem | if the crit bonus is 1.5, the real resisted amount can be found by multiplying the value give by 1.5 |
| 14:56.31 | Tem | (345 *1.5 = 517.5) |
| 14:56.56 | Tem | aaand the forums are down so I can't post a bug repor |
| 14:56.57 | Tem | t |
| 14:58.18 | JoshBorke | how does SetTexCoord rotate a texture? |
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| 14:59.03 | JoshBorke | hrm, i guess Iriel explains it on the tutorial page |
| 15:02.55 | JoshBorke | morning Cairenn |
| 15:03.01 | Cairenn | morning |
| 15:03.28 | Elkano | morning :) |
| 15:04.26 | JoshBorke | ok, so i figured out my problem: my texture is being rotated out of my view |
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| 15:07.51 | Kirkburn | Favour time again =) Anyone see any problems with http://chig3.georgepribul.eu/ ? |
| 15:08.23 | JoshBorke | i can't read it. does that count? |
| 15:08.55 | JoshBorke | on the bottom, i've got some problems with the blocks. i've got an orange and blue block sticking out from the bars |
| 15:09.18 | JoshBorke | and there's a small light grey (background color) to the lower left of 'search' |
| 15:09.23 | Tem | JoshBorke, that's that Lorem Ipsum stuff again |
| 15:10.08 | JoshBorke | who'sa what'sa? |
| 15:10.21 | Tem | open firefox |
| 15:10.26 | Tem | type this in your adress bar |
| 15:10.31 | Tem | wp lorem ipsum |
| 15:10.44 | dao_at_work | lorem ipsum is latin-looking gibberish |
| 15:10.45 | Tem | hit enter |
| 15:10.47 | Tem | ... |
| 15:10.51 | Tem | profit! |
| 15:11.01 | dao_at_work | it's used for layouts and stuff so you can just paste it where text would go |
| 15:11.05 | Tem | aww, dao_at_work you ruied it |
| 15:11.09 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 15:11.16 | JoshBorke | nifty |
| 15:11.30 | dao_at_work | it's so you can look at the layout without being distracted by the words. |
| 15:11.53 | Tem | Kirkburn, on the right side, the little grey thing between the top block and the second block that rounds the edge is in the wrong place |
| 15:12.05 | JoshBorke | yea, i was just about to say that |
| 15:12.10 | Tem | Kirkburn, (firefox 1.5.0.5) |
| 15:12.14 | JoshBorke | Tem: how do i shift my image over after rotating it? |
| 15:12.18 | JoshBorke | s/image/texture |
| 15:12.23 | JoshBorke | ~botslap |
| 15:12.24 | purl | OUCH! That hurt, joshborke! |
| 15:12.25 | Tem | not sure what you mean? |
| 15:12.58 | JoshBorke | Tem: i've put my texture on a button. when i rotate my texture (successfully), it no longer shows up because it is outside the bounds of the button |
| 15:13.15 | Tem | it should show up regardless |
| 15:13.26 | Tem | things don't care if they go outside the bounds of their parent |
| 15:13.47 | Tem | have you actually seen your rotated texture? |
| 15:14.18 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 15:14.25 | JoshBorke | i rotated it only 45 degrees and half the texture shows |
| 15:14.38 | JoshBorke | i'll pastebin the code i'm using |
| 15:14.43 | Tem | k |
| 15:15.15 | Kirkburn | Tem, the misplacement thing appears to be a problem with FF |
| 15:15.21 | JoshBorke | http://wow.pastecode.com/2123 |
| 15:15.26 | Tem | Kirkburn, :( |
| 15:16.02 | Kirkburn | It's weird though :/ |
| 15:16.23 | Tem | JoshBorke, you don't need to use that complicated function Iriel wrote |
| 15:16.27 | Tem | his is for the general case |
| 15:16.53 | Tem | which direction are you rotating? 90degrees to the left or right? |
| 15:17.03 | Tem | (or do you care?) |
| 15:17.16 | JoshBorke | don't care |
| 15:17.27 | JoshBorke | i can rotate either left or right, i have both an up and a down :-) |
| 15:17.49 | Kirkburn | JoshBorke, what browser did you see the problems in? |
| 15:18.06 | Tem | ok |
| 15:18.53 | Kirkburn | (ah, I see the orange/blue block problem is in FF) |
| 15:19.09 | JoshBorke | FF :-) |
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| 15:21.10 | Tem | http://wow.pastecode.com/2124 |
| 15:21.23 | Tem | that's the simplest form of a rotate left |
| 15:21.26 | Tem | er, right |
| 15:22.06 | Tem | now, iirc, the arrow textures are in the same file and you have to use settexcoord just to get them out |
| 15:22.30 | JoshBorke | TAHA! thanks! |
| 15:23.00 | Tem | did that work? |
| 15:23.11 | JoshBorke | yep :-) |
| 15:23.17 | Tem | sweet |
| 15:26.16 | cogwheel | Is there a list of WoW's virtual elements anywhere? (e.g. GameFontNormal, etc.) |
| 15:26.45 | cogwheel | (besides in FrameXML\ :P ) |
| 15:30.45 | Kirkburn | Gah, I give up on Firefox for now. Stupid weird thing |
| 15:31.14 | Kirkburn | =( |
| 15:31.20 | cogwheel | Should give up on IE... :P |
| 15:31.32 | Kirkburn | Hey, my website works perfectly on IE7, just not FF |
| 15:31.47 | Kirkburn | And I didn't design it specifically for IE7 |
| 15:32.21 | cogwheel | I have a feeling that working perfectly in IE7 is more akin to IE7 improperly working when it should be broken... :P |
| 15:32.33 | Kirkburn | Evidently :P |
| 15:32.37 | Tain | Without knowing any further details I would still lean more towards a weird FF thing being a standard that's not being followed by the webpgae. |
| 15:33.16 | Kirkburn | I can't see why it would cause this problem though, the bottom bars are basically reversed copies of the top bars |
| 15:34.08 | cogwheel | can you link it again? |
| 15:34.10 | Kirkburn | (and common sense tells me the misplaced corner bit at the top shouldn't be affected by search box, since they're in different div areas) |
| 15:34.19 | Kirkburn | http://chig3.georgepribul.eu/ |
| 15:35.38 | Kirkburn | Fixed the search box issue |
| 15:36.13 | cogwheel | was the background anchored to the wrong side? |
| 15:36.22 | cogwheel | i see it's working now |
| 15:36.59 | Kirkburn | nah, it was just cause FF felt it was overlapping the corner bit, and displaced it. I gave it an extra 2 px of space :) |
| 15:40.22 | Kirkburn | Can't find a reason for the bottom bar thing though |
| 15:40.23 | cogwheel | in stead of float left, have you tried absolute positioning with a left of 0? |
| 15:40.23 | cogwheel | you would need to put position: relative in the #statusbar rule... |
| 15:41.12 | cogwheel | You would need to take out the hight:100% also, i believe... |
| 15:43.37 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 15:45.20 | Hexarobee | does SetID() have to be passed a number? can i use "a5" as an id? |
| 15:45.28 | Tem | integer |
| 15:45.39 | Hexarobee | bah |
| 15:46.40 | Hexarobee | ok can i refer to a hash with index integers? |
| 15:47.00 | Hexarobee | so if "a8" is the first item in the hash, can i get it with hash[1]? |
| 15:49.09 | Kirkburn | cogwheel, now it's perfect in FF, and slightly broken in IE :/ |
| 15:49.33 | cogwheel | That's better. |
| 15:49.34 | cogwheel | :P |
| 15:49.59 | cogwheel | can you upload it? |
| 15:50.28 | Kirkburn | Done |
| 15:50.35 | Kirkburn | Actually, I just fixed it ;) |
| 15:50.55 | cogwheel | cool :) |
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| 15:52.09 | cogwheel | You might want to use that technique in the top ones too... Opera9 still looks a little funny pu there |
| 15:52.15 | cogwheel | s/pu/up/ |
| 15:52.29 | Kirkburn | Okay, sounds like a plan |
| 15:56.08 | Hexarobee | shouldnt pairs(hash) return my hash as an array with [1] = the first key and [2] = to the first value? |
| 15:56.44 | cogwheel | hexarobee: pairs returns key and value where array[key] == value |
| 15:57.10 | cogwheel | (at least in for loops...) |
| 16:01.00 | cogwheel | fyi: http://www.lua.org/pil/7.3.html |
| 16:02.59 | Hexarobee | doesnt appear to do what i want =( |
| 16:07.21 | Hexarobee | grr it seems like this should be doable |
| 16:07.43 | Hexarobee | i guess i can hardcode an array and just do a lookup each time |
| 16:07.46 | JoshBorke | Hexarobee: pairs(hash) should be considered a random result |
| 16:08.15 | JoshBorke | for index,item in ipairs(table) will return the elements in numeric order |
| 16:08.49 | JoshBorke | Hexarobee: what are you trying to do? |
| 16:10.05 | Hexarobee | ive got a hash of key=value pairs |
| 16:10.20 | Hexarobee | and i want to get say the 3rd key |
| 16:10.53 | JoshBorke | the best way to do that, if your keys aren't integers, is to have 2 tables |
| 16:10.53 | Hexarobee | i was trying something like pairs(hash)[3] |
| 16:11.00 | Hexarobee | ya thats what i just did |
| 16:15.31 | Cairenn | jkasdflkjasdflkjawli5upq982479quhfa;oisjdr god I wish that thread would just DIE |
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| 16:24.54 | cogwheel | Kirkburn: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7457/operaexyq4.jpg & http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9962/operaex2ir2.jpg are some problems with Opera (in case you care :P ) |
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| 16:25.25 | Kirkburn | Second one shuld already be fixed |
| 16:25.34 | Kirkburn | *should |
| 16:25.43 | Kirkburn | Thanks for the pics btw |
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| 16:36.12 | krka | using irssi instead of xchat feels so weird :( |
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| 16:41.50 | clad | afternoon |
| 16:42.37 | JoshBorke | ok bye all |
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| 16:42.49 | cogwheel | good morning |
| 16:43.35 | Zicon | krka: Don't worry. irssi is very lovable. |
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| 17:04.13 | krka | just need to get used to it... and fix the colors |
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| 17:09.37 | Elkano | I've got a hard problem for you: http://wowi.pastey.net/39 |
| 17:10.05 | Elkano | look at the code and then at the screenshot and tell my, why the hell this can happen :( |
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| 17:12.07 | cogwheel | can you post self.compost:Acquire()? |
| 17:12.59 | Elkano | it's the compost's Acquire function returning a table filled with the arguments |
| 17:13.44 | Elkano | so buffssort should be a table of tables, but it sometimes isn't :/ |
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| 17:15.30 | Beladona | so um |
| 17:15.37 | Beladona | wowinterface.com go poot? |
| 17:16.04 | cogwheel | huh... it was working a minute ago... |
| 17:16.47 | Beladona | was for me too, but now it won't load |
| 17:16.52 | cogwheel | Elkano, is it possidle compost:Acquire is returning two values? |
| 17:17.21 | cogwheel | try enclosing the call in parentheses... |
| 17:17.47 | cogwheel | s/idl/ibl/ |
| 17:17.55 | cogwheel | darn... only last post :P |
| 17:18.06 | Elkano | no, it only returns one |
| 17:19.28 | cogwheel | well, if it *did* return two, that would likely 'cause the problem, since you can call table.insert with three values: table.insert(table, position, value) |
| 17:19.46 | cogwheel | s/'c/c/ |
| 17:20.08 | Elkano | but this should still not make it append all entrys from the value table to the passed table, should it? |
| 17:20.28 | Elkano | to me, it looks like table.insert is broken |
| 17:20.34 | cogwheel | maybe Acquire unpacked them? |
| 17:21.06 | cogwheel | sorry for the ignorance but where is Compost from? |
| 17:21.40 | Elkano | it's CompostLib |
| 17:21.59 | Elkano | can't link to it atm since wowi seems to be down |
| 17:22.44 | Elkano | -> http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/CompostLib/Lib/CompostLib.lua |
| 17:23.12 | cogwheel | hosted by wowi... |
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| 17:23.44 | Elkano | oh... it actualy could be a bug in compost... |
| 17:29.57 | cogwheel | How big is :Acquire? could you pastey it, perhaps? |
| 17:30.27 | Elkano | the link abouve should work |
| 17:30.41 | Beladona | wowi is down Elkano |
| 17:31.08 | Elkano | but svn isnt |
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| 17:31.08 | cogwheel | wowace is hosted by wowi |
| 17:31.08 | Beladona | the itnerface is hosted at wowi |
| 17:31.08 | Kirov | I can't connect |
| 17:31.08 | Beladona | interface rather |
| 17:31.23 | Elkano | well, it works for me... Oo |
| 17:31.26 | cogwheel | it nerf ace? what nerf ace? :P |
| 17:31.33 | Beladona | that link works? |
| 17:31.37 | Beladona | or your svn client does? |
| 17:31.44 | cogwheel | you must have it cached |
| 17:31.49 | Abenadi | Do most people write mod interfaces manually, or use a wysiwyg editor? |
| 17:32.04 | Kirov | manual |
| 17:32.19 | Beladona | I think most do it manually. There aren't any fullproof wysiwyg editors |
| 17:32.23 | Elkano | I can even wget it... so shouldn't be the cache |
| 17:32.26 | cogwheel | there is a WYSIWYG editor in beta version right now though... THe website where it's hosted is down atm. |
| 17:32.30 | Beladona | I doubt I would use one even if there was |
| 17:32.36 | cogwheel | s/TH/Th/ |
| 17:32.56 | Abenadi | Is there a good tutorial / reference to get started doing it manually? I've used WoW UID but I want to start having more control over the interface |
| 17:33.16 | cogwheel | http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ |
| 17:33.29 | Abenadi | thanks Cog |
| 17:34.04 | clad | later all |
| 17:34.45 | zenzelezz | "No no, that is not possible. He is a PHP developer, he can't possibly be lacking in security awareness!" |
| 17:35.55 | Cairenn | dolby has been informed that the site is down |
| 17:38.03 | Gryphen | seems ok here |
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| 17:38.38 | cogwheel | must've fixed it :P |
| 17:45.21 | Kirkburn | I was just thinking ... can you imagine how long a combines patch notes would be for 1.2 -> 1.12 would be now |
| 17:46.01 | Kirkburn | And just how much difference would one notice if one hadn't played in the intervening time |
| 17:46.22 | Kirkburn | Indeed, how long will the Burning Crusade (2.0) patch notes be :P |
| 17:46.50 | cogwheel | "Added content for compatability with the Burning Crusade expansion" |
| 17:46.53 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:47.55 | cogwheel | It'll probably be more like Burning Crusade 1.16... that way the version numbers will parallel the basic WoW. 2.0 won't come until they make a brand new game (like EQ1 vs EQ2) |
| 17:49.38 | zenzelezz | they could decide to make a 2.0 for "regular" WoW; it just wouldn't fit the "regular" version numbering scheme |
| 17:50.32 | End | "2.0" has been referenced by Tseric, but I dunno if that'll actually be the numbering scheme used |
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| 17:51.52 | Kirkburn | Tseric mentioned the first patch for BC will be 2.1 |
| 17:53.30 | Tem | What Tseric says is LAW! |
| 17:53.33 | Kirkburn | Of course, that could make it more confusing for people without the expansion - however, I have a feeling that Blizz may feel that BC is so important that it really deserves the increase |
| 17:53.39 | Tem | (or he could just be guessing like the rest of us) |
| 17:53.54 | Kirkburn | Well, there is the fact he's been able to play it :P |
| 17:54.23 | Tem | why would they have 2.1 ready to play now |
| 17:54.27 | Tem | that makes no sense |
| 17:54.56 | Kirkburn | He/I meant that the first patch *after* BCs release will be 2.1 |
| 17:55.56 | Kirkburn | Interesting point, though - I would love to see how Blizz is working on the expansion, and how much they're going to hold back |
| 18:02.36 | Andalia | can anybody here tell me how to move the BuffFrame to the Topright of UIParent? BuffFrame:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", UIParent, "TOPRIGHT", 0, -13) doesnt seem to work |
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| 18:05.58 | cogwheel | put quotes around UIParent |
| 18:06.21 | cogwheel | s/nt/nt?/ |
| 18:16.39 | Andalia | That somehow doesn't work. And i'm pretty shure you need to pass object, not strings so it should be right |
| 18:17.24 | cogwheel | Hmm.. just checked wiki... says either string or object should be fine... Not sure then. |
| 18:17.40 | Andalia | ok |
| 18:18.02 | Kirkburn | Is it bad that my CSS file is now nearly 10KB? :P |
| 18:18.22 | Andalia | i prefer to use objects then but that doesn't matter since the two of them don't work ;) |
| 18:20.24 | cogwheel | Kirkburn: nah... I've got a simpler layout here at work and it's around 8k |
| 18:21.06 | Kirkburn | Phew, that's okay then :) I suppose when it's all done, I can cut out lots of the 'test' stuff, too |
| 18:21.30 | Iriel | You dont need quotes around it |
| 18:21.36 | Iriel | Object is, in my opinion, better |
| 18:21.43 | Iriel | (To the anchor frame in SetPoint) |
| 18:22.05 | Kirkburn | It's definately a fun learning experience, doing websites - this is my first proper fully div'd site |
| 18:22.39 | MoonWolf | why don't the forum beta's have an UI forum :( |
| 18:23.16 | Iriel | Because the forum CM's dont care about us |
| 18:23.33 | Kirkburn | "And there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth" |
| 18:24.53 | cogwheel | Elkano: you still around? try running this code and see what kinds of errors it gives: http://pastecode.com/2133 (pastey.net was timing out for me...) |
| 18:25.30 | End | I've looked at the forums once since they started stress testing |
| 18:25.36 | End | normally I look at UI first... |
| 18:25.42 | Elkano | the problem is that the bug never occured to myself and also others only get it sometimes :/ |
| 18:25.48 | End | but since there isnt any point, I just don't bother looking at any of the forums |
| 18:26.41 | Industrial | Question: I'm making an addon that colors chat nicks by class color (guild, party, raid). The only way to see someones class is by UnitClass(Unit) right? How do I get this information from the guild.... (havent looked at the others yet) because All I cant get out of my guild is the name of members.) |
| 18:27.03 | Industrial | All I can get* |
| 18:27.22 | cogwheel | elkano: in that pastecode, i forgot to put ", tempTbl" in table.insert()... in case you want to try it |
| 18:28.36 | Kirkburn | cogwheel, since you're around - does it still have the grey box issue in opera? |
| 18:28.53 | Kirkburn | (http://chig3.georgepribul.eu/index.html) |
| 18:29.27 | cogwheel | Yeah... looks identical |
| 18:30.08 | cogwheel | It looks like the background color is on top of the image in the parent DIV |
| 18:30.08 | Industrial | Kirkburn, I'd drop the lowest of the three 'layers'. THe one with the heading in it. |
| 18:31.22 | Kirkburn | Industrial, why? |
| 18:31.46 | Industrial | Kirkburn, dunno one too much I guess (for my taste xD) |
| 18:31.52 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 18:32.26 | Industrial | I should start doing some web work again but i CBA |
| 18:32.50 | Industrial | internship last year - for 10 months |
| 18:33.19 | Industrial | So noone knows how to fetch guild member classes? |
| 18:33.23 | Kirkburn | cogwheel, I can't work out the problem :/ |
| 18:34.25 | cogwheel | it's strange.. there's also a weird problem where, after scrolling down, when you scroll back up a gray bar covers the links. Also, many of the links aren't clickable except in certain areas... |
| 18:34.49 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 18:35.08 | Mery | guild member classes probably only thorugh the guild roaster |
| 18:35.40 | cogwheel | kirkburn one bug i see is that all of your links have the same ids... you should be using classes |
| 18:36.04 | Kirkburn | Yes, that is true - meant to sort that earlier |
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| 18:36.15 | cogwheel | that might be part of the problem... Opera is very standards compliant |
| 18:37.11 | cogwheel | One tip i read somewhere is to make sure your markup validates before you start "fixing" the CSS... :) |
| 18:38.31 | cogwheel | I'm curious too... how come you're using javascript links instead of regular hrefs? |
| 18:39.13 | Kirkburn | Can I href a div? |
| 18:39.19 | cogwheel | ah... nm |
| 18:39.23 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 18:39.35 | cogwheel | Might be better to use an <a> tag with the same id as the div |
| 18:39.57 | cogwheel | It would accomplish the same effect as long as you display:block; margin:0; padding:0 it. |
| 18:40.01 | cogwheel | more accessible too. |
| 18:41.35 | cogwheel | that'll be $9.95/hour, please... ;) |
| 18:42.05 | Kirkburn | Fixed the id stuff |
| 18:42.28 | Mery | hmm has anybody tried if Model:SetModel() takes warcraft 3 .mdx model files? |
| 18:43.18 | cogwheel | kirkburn - still borked... I'll take a closer look. |
| 18:45.50 | cogwheel | kirkburn - try doing the same trick you did with the bottom: instead of float use position: absolute... (don't forget to position: relative the navbar div...) |
| 18:46.18 | cogwheel | (or did you fix it some other way?) |
| 18:47.02 | Kirkburn | Fixed the js bits too |
| 18:47.39 | Kirkburn | I had a try at it, but it seemed to mess it up again |
| 18:49.17 | cogwheel | might want to change masthead-right & left's background color to 333333. i think that's where the light gray by the search box comes froum |
| 18:49.24 | cogwheel | s/oum/om/ |
| 18:50.42 | Kirkburn | Attempted |
| 18:51.15 | cogwheel | bah... who uses opera anyway? |
| 18:51.56 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 18:52.10 | Kirkburn | The search box does need sorting though |
| 18:53.12 | Kirkburn | Ooh, how about now? |
| 18:53.26 | cogwheel | all better |
| 18:53.46 | Kirkburn | Made the search form 'display:inline' |
| 18:53.55 | cogwheel | worked like a charm |
| 18:54.00 | Kirkburn | Fixed it in the dreamweaver view too |
| 18:54.43 | Kirkburn | Thanks very much for the help =D |
| 18:55.40 | cogwheel | That'll be ₤200 please... |
| 18:55.42 | cogwheel | :P |
| 18:55.52 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 18:57.22 | cogwheel | I wonder if i could write that off as a donation... |
| 18:57.32 | Kirkburn | I'm quite shocked that it's actually amazingly close to the original fireworks design I made a while ago (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chigrl7.jpg) |
| 19:03.10 | cogwheel | I do like it better than styles 1 & 2 :) |
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| 19:06.13 | Kirkburn | good! |
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| 19:09.16 | cogwheel | hmm... the text-align:center of the search box is buggy in FF |
| 19:09.22 | Lyri | hello |
| 19:09.30 | cogwheel | greetings |
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| 19:16.41 | Kirkburn | <cogwheel> hmm... the text-align:center of the search box is buggy in FF <-- how so? |
| 19:17.03 | cogwheel | i'll take a screenshot... this happens when you type and then backspace... |
| 19:20.26 | cogwheel | http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6931/centertextboxyn5.gif |
| 19:20.52 | Kirkburn | FF 1.5? |
| 19:21.07 | cogwheel | actually the beta for 2 now that you mention it... |
| 19:21.19 | cogwheel | maybe I should report it to them... |
| 19:21.36 | cogwheel | (if it's working correctly in 1.5 that is) |
| 19:24.48 | Kirkburn | Fine in 1.5 for me :) |
| 19:25.01 | Kirkburn | Definately looks like a 2.0 bug |
| 19:33.49 | cogwheel | I'm very confused now... I made a minimal test for it, and it doesn't happen. http://pastecode.com/2142 |
| 19:34.32 | DoomGaze3 | will table.sort(string) sort the table alphabetically? |
| 19:35.01 | DoomGaze3 | er, *table.sort(tableOfStrings) |
| 19:35.41 | Iriel | If the table is in list format, yes |
| 19:35.42 | Iriel | i.e. |
| 19:35.51 | Iriel | X = {"Carrot", "Apple", "Orange"} |
| 19:35.54 | Iriel | table.sort(X) |
| 19:36.01 | Iriel | X is now {"Apple","Carrot","Orange"} |
| 19:36.13 | DoomGaze3 | Awesome. Thanks Iriel! |
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| 19:39.23 | Hexarobee | hey iriel, you were interested in the PlaySoundFile() return value bug i was discussing the other day right? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-bugs&t=164652&tmp=1#post164652 |
| 19:39.32 | Kirkburn | Odd, cogwheel |
| 19:39.35 | DoomGaze3 | is this a true expression: "Apple" > "Orange" |
| 19:39.41 | cogwheel | no |
| 19:39.48 | cogwheel | A < O |
| 19:40.14 | DoomGaze3 | k |
| 19:40.16 | Hexarobee | it prolly is checking the ascii values |
| 19:40.25 | cogwheel | oh man... the puns are rolling through my head faster than I can type... |
| 19:40.27 | Hexarobee | so capital A is a lower ascii than capital O |
| 19:40.40 | cogwheel | comparing apples and oranges..... "Unless you prefer Oranges" .... |
| 19:41.08 | Hexarobee | not counting the mezanine |
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| 19:49.06 | wereHamster | OMG I have when I write a post, click preview, it fails for whatever reason, then I go back, press preview again and I get "already posted" .. that makes me so angry |
| 19:49.19 | wereHamster | s/I have/I hate/ |
| 19:49.35 | cogwheel | the forums are down right now... |
| 19:49.42 | cogwheel | they're stress-testing the beta ones |
| 19:50.03 | wereHamster | german forums are up |
| 19:50.20 | cogwheel | ah... |
| 19:50.30 | cogwheel | then yes, i hate that too :) |
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| 19:53.53 | wereHamster | uh.. Cide wants to break backwards compatibility O.o |
| 19:54.49 | zenzelezz | in a major version release, or a normal incremental? |
| 19:55.09 | Mikk | i heard he wanted to break comms compat in 1.12 |
| 19:55.12 | Mikk | hardly surprising |
| 19:55.15 | Mikk | everyone wants to |
| 19:55.42 | wereHamster | 1.54 or so |
| 19:56.28 | Hexarobee | how do u convert a string to number? |
| 19:56.35 | Hexarobee | "10".toNum()? |
| 19:56.57 | krka | tonumber("10") |
| 19:57.11 | zenzelezz | seeing how hard it is to get guildies to upgrade their versions, I'm inclined to like a break in compatibility |
| 19:57.11 | krka | or just "10" + 0 |
| 19:57.29 | Mikk | break compatibility = guildies will upgrade |
| 19:57.45 | Mikk | as long as stuff sorta continues to work, laziness wins |
| 19:57.46 | Hexarobee | i tried myString+0 but it said cannot add to global string |
| 19:57.50 | cogwheel | kirkburn - it turns out it's the cascading font-sizes doing it... here's a minimal example: http://pastecode.com/2143 ... I'll submit this to Mozilla (after I grab the newest build...) |
| 19:58.15 | Kirkburn | Aha :) Good idea |
| 19:58.30 | cogwheel | speaking of which... i use chatzilla so.... |
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| 19:59.01 | Mikk | Hexarobee: nope, lua doesn't attempt to autoconvert strings to numbers |
| 20:00.38 | Iriel | Well, it depends actually |
| 20:00.56 | Iriel | LUA will happily convert strings to numbers |
| 20:01.07 | Iriel | > return "10" + 0 |
| 20:01.08 | Iriel | 10 |
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| 20:01.18 | Iriel | But tonumber is the 'right' way |
| 20:01.24 | Iriel | remember to check for nil afterwards |
| 20:01.30 | Mikk | erhmwha? |
| 20:01.39 | Mikk | i could have sworn i'ev had lua complain at me for attempting that |
| 20:03.28 | Mikk | but obviously i must have been smoking something inappropriate because it's sure working now |
| 20:07.16 | Shadowed | Mikk: BuyTrainerService still has the page up with the incorrect info by the way |
| 20:12.49 | Beladona | woot |
| 20:13.01 | Beladona | almost time to go home, and tonight is wow night =D |
| 20:14.06 | cogwheel | :( 3.25 hours more for me... |
| 20:14.27 | Mikk | Shadowed: whoeps |
| 20:14.53 | Shadowed | Actually, don't bother Mikk. I already see what it does will just update it with good info :p |
| 20:16.31 | Mikk | meh. zap my speedydelete tag then :-P |
| 20:16.50 | Shadowed | will do |
| 20:24.45 | Beladona | so they added a new functions called UnitInGroup |
| 20:24.50 | Beladona | nifty |
| 20:25.24 | krka | meh, kinda unnecessary |
| 20:25.36 | Beladona | it all depends |
| 20:25.51 | krka | nothing we can't do with it that we couldn't do before |
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| 20:26.16 | Beladona | except instead of performing the function it does, you can use it instead |
| 20:26.32 | Beladona | isn't that what most ui functions are when you strip them down |
| 20:27.09 | krka | most functions do stuff that we can't do ourselves |
| 20:27.21 | Beladona | global ones do sure |
| 20:27.41 | Beladona | there are a large number of functions though that are there for the re-usability |
| 20:27.55 | Beladona | that in and of itself makes them useful as far as I am concerned |
| 20:33.39 | Shadowed | IsTalentTrainer(); is acting funny, wonder if it's broken |
| 20:35.12 | Shadowed | Doesn't accept any sort of unit argument, and returns 1 even if you're not near a trainer, then returns nil when you're on the skill list page |
| 20:39.07 | cogwheel | hmmmm.... "site.index"... ( http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ ) |
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| 20:48.11 | Kirkburn | Sort of new info: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p12/outdoorpvp.xml |
| 20:49.03 | Shadowed | The first thing I noticed from those screenshots is that all the towers look exactly the same |
| 20:49.53 | Kirkburn | What do you mean? |
| 20:50.08 | Shadowed | the graphic used for the towers is the same, just rotated |
| 20:50.19 | Beladona | well yeah |
| 20:50.21 | Gryphen | ala planetside |
| 20:50.25 | Gryphen | hah |
| 20:50.30 | Beladona | that model is already in the game |
| 20:50.43 | Beladona | they just added flags to it |
| 20:50.54 | Kirkburn | True |
| 20:51.57 | Beladona | that world pvp stuff is too limited though |
| 20:52.06 | Beladona | not sure I care for it |
| 20:52.15 | Beladona | two areas with two towers, oh boy |
| 20:52.16 | Shadowed | The fact that they made capturing based on how many are in the area is silly |
| 20:52.21 | Shadowed | Beladona: four towers |
| 20:52.23 | Beladona | and theya re both kidna out of the way |
| 20:52.34 | Shadowed | unless you mean north and south as two areas |
| 20:52.46 | Beladona | two areas, with two towers per area = 4 towers |
| 20:52.49 | Beladona | so yeah |
| 20:53.40 | Shadowed | It's a fun idea, but they really aren't going to be able to make it that interesting due to faction imbalance |
| 20:53.43 | Shadowed | s/im/in/ |
| 20:54.00 | Beladona | see now, they coulda made it so you gain points for your faction based on how many world hks you get, and in turn you earn rewards, like cheaper prices in neutral areas or something |
| 20:54.10 | cogwheel_ | had it right the first time... |
| 20:54.13 | cogwheel_ | :P |
| 20:54.17 | Beladona | this feels like watered down battlegrounds |
| 20:54.21 | Shadowed | whatever! |
| 20:55.04 | Shadowed | What makes world pvp fun is the fact that you never know whats going to happen, you can't go AFK in the middle of BRM without worring that you'll get ganked. |
| 20:55.20 | Shadowed | as you said, this is basically just an uninstanced version of AV |
| 20:55.28 | Beladona | yup |
| 20:55.32 | Mikk | I'm just glad I switched to a PvE server :-P |
| 20:55.38 | Beladona | it still forces people to go to a special place to pvp |
| 20:55.53 | Beladona | the point of "world" pvp is you can do it anywhere in the world |
| 20:56.05 | Cide- | you still can |
| 20:56.10 | Shadowed | not really |
| 20:56.14 | Flyoc | no |
| 20:56.14 | Cide- | they just promote it even more in those places |
| 20:56.16 | Beladona | right, but this doesn't give benefits for doing it |
| 20:56.25 | Flyoc | the point of world PvP is you can do 100vs100 battles |
| 20:56.33 | Cide- | you get a pve buff from pvping, that's not really a benefit either |
| 20:56.38 | Beladona | right, but ANYWHERE |
| 20:56.43 | Shadowed | world pvp as in the one blizzard added, or the current one on PVP servers? |
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| 20:57.12 | Shadowed | The point of world pvp on pvp servers is that you're always on guard, not so you can do massive 100 vs 100 battles, you can do that already on pve. |
| 20:57.19 | Beladona | I just think they should have promoted pvp worldwide, not in specific zones |
| 20:57.35 | Beladona | I mean fine, have certain areas more contested |
| 20:57.59 | dao_at_work | yeah |
| 20:58.03 | Cide- | on the other hand, if you have it everywhere, you won't see it as often |
| 20:58.10 | Shadowed | thats not true |
| 20:58.11 | Beladona | I guess |
| 20:58.15 | Cide- | uh, yes it is |
| 20:58.23 | Cide- | if I want to world pvp in 1.12, I go to silithus or EP |
| 20:58.25 | Beladona | part of the problem is that they added BGs |
| 20:58.32 | Beladona | which made everyone leave the world to do pvp |
| 20:58.44 | dao_at_work | there's a difference between "being constantly on guard for a battle" and being murdered while picking some flowers by a person 35 levels up. O.o |
| 20:58.45 | Beladona | they should have done the world pvp thing from the start |
| 20:59.04 | Shadowed | if they add pvp areas to 60 different areas, you usually end up with some sort of preference thats the most active |
| 20:59.09 | Cide- | darwin would have liked it |
| 20:59.21 | Beladona | dao: personally I don't see a problem with that |
| 20:59.22 | Tain | I personally would rather see no world pvp on PVE servers. |
| 20:59.30 | Beladona | I learned long ago to eat it up, and take my licks |
| 20:59.39 | Shadowed | i'd rather just be able to transfer to a PVP server |
| 20:59.49 | dao_at_work | no no no, I'm not bitching about being ganked. |
| 21:00.10 | dao_at_work | I'm just saying it'd be better if PVP meant roving groups fighting, rather than being ganked all the time. |
| 21:00.13 | Beladona | I see your point |
| 21:00.20 | Kirkburn | You can't please everyone |
| 21:00.27 | Beladona | I just feel like this new system they are putting in is a cop-out to what we really wanted |
| 21:00.30 | Tain | I don't want to please everyone. |
| 21:00.33 | Tain | I just want them to please me. |
| 21:00.37 | Hexarobee | whats the best way to handle plugin communication? |
| 21:00.37 | dao_at_work | I've tried doing world PVP, but they always back up and the southshore guards eat me :) |
| 21:00.48 | Hexarobee | tells? or a mutual channel? |
| 21:00.50 | Beladona | thats why you don't follow |
| 21:00.51 | Kirkburn | And you can't make everyone do world PvP how 'you' would like it |
| 21:01.00 | dao_at_work | yeah, but then it's not PVP. |
| 21:01.02 | Cide- | if it's peer to peer, tells |
| 21:01.07 | dao_at_work | it's P looking at cowards. |
| 21:01.08 | Kirov | dao - thats why you gank in Ungoro |
| 21:01.22 | Hexarobee | k |
| 21:01.29 | Beladona | I am too used to games like battlefield 2, where any place on the map is a potential killzone |
| 21:01.39 | Beladona | and there are objectives |
| 21:01.44 | Kirkburn | ZOMG |
| 21:01.45 | Kirkburn | "A new feature is the difficulty settings and the group leader can select between five modes, of "easily" to "super+heavily". Loot is also variable depending on the degree of difficulty you underatle. The harder the difficulty, the better the loot." |
| 21:01.52 | dao_at_work | i like the world pvp stuff they're doing. |
| 21:01.58 | Beladona | what? |
| 21:02.02 | Beladona | in instances Kirkburn? |
| 21:02.03 | dao_at_work | what? |
| 21:02.04 | Kirkburn | (that's translated from some german, btw) |
| 21:02.08 | Shadowed | where? |
| 21:02.09 | Kirkburn | Yes, instances |
| 21:02.14 | Beladona | that would be awesome |
| 21:02.24 | Beladona | although I wonder what super heavy means |
| 21:02.28 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 21:02.36 | Kirkburn | http://www.worldofwar.net/articles/blizzeutour2007-2.php |
| 21:02.39 | Beladona | nightmare mode |
| 21:02.43 | Kirkburn | heh, yeah |
| 21:02.51 | Kirkburn | "Each class receives five new Spells and abilities " |
| 21:03.05 | Beladona | welcome to Ahn-Qiraj, in nightmare mode, where all bosses use the godmode cheat |
| 21:03.09 | Shadowed | oh, expansion info |
| 21:03.12 | Beladona | heh |
| 21:03.37 | dao_at_work | as long as they properly scale the loot with the difficulty, that's cool. |
| 21:03.39 | Shadowed | "The Draenai start locatoin is not yet visible on the current maps but it lies on an island southwest of Darnassus." |
| 21:03.44 | Shadowed | and will be just as unused after level 10! |
| 21:03.50 | dao_at_work | like if you're on easy mode, no epics :) |
| 21:04.00 | Kirkburn | It's 1-20, Shadowed |
| 21:04.18 | Shadowed | s/10/20/ |
| 21:04.55 | Beladona | interesting, so they are extending the map a little westward? |
| 21:05.12 | Kirkburn | Slightly, not much |
| 21:05.38 | Kirkburn | It's just a collection of islands off the coast just above stonetalon |
| 21:05.55 | Kirkburn | Most likely it'll be connected to Auberdine by boat, I expect |
| 21:06.04 | Kirov | Is oRA compatible with CTRA? |
| 21:07.55 | Kirkburn | Dungeon difficulties, eh ... I like it |
| 21:08.29 | Mikk | I kinda do. I just feel sorry for the PUGgers =) |
| 21:08.30 | Kirkburn | Definately shows the commitment to all players, not a select few |
| 21:08.46 | Mikk | "NO! Harder! I want better loot!" "NOOO! It's too hard!" |
| 21:08.48 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 21:09.23 | Mikk | Trying to convince PUGs that my pally can main heal whatever 5man seems easy compared :-P |
| 21:09.26 | Beladona | that sounds wrong |
| 21:09.36 | Beladona | Harder! no, I don't like it hard! Tough! |
| 21:09.38 | Shadowed | I don't look forward to listening to people whining regarding 40 man progression |
| 21:09.39 | Beladona | oh |
| 21:09.52 | Beladona | yeah no kidding |
| 21:09.52 | Shadowed | "No we got the world first, we did it at normal mod you did it at easy!" |
| 21:09.58 | Kirkburn | "I like it hard" |
| 21:10.01 | Beladona | got EQ Back Flagging all over again? |
| 21:10.05 | Beladona | 0.o |
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| 21:10.25 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 21:10.28 | Mikk | uhoh.. i wonder what "better loot" means |
| 21:10.35 | Mikk | just different items dropping |
| 21:10.39 | Kirkburn | most likely |
| 21:10.42 | Beladona | probably |
| 21:10.43 | Mikk | or ... items getting different stats o.O |
| 21:10.47 | Shadowed | Somehow I think this is going to cause more trouble then it's worth |
| 21:10.48 | Beladona | or a better chance |
| 21:10.58 | Beladona | same loot tables, but higher percentage of rare, legendary, etc... |
| 21:11.02 | Shadowed | fun idea, but going to cause more issue then helps |
| 21:11.25 | Shadowed | have to see how they do it though |
| 21:11.25 | Kirkburn | Most likely what Bela said - a higher chance of pulling from higher tables |
| 21:11.48 | Kirkburn | "going to cause more issue then helps" <-- now that's negativity |
| 21:11.58 | Beladona | its hard to know until we see it |
| 21:12.02 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 21:12.13 | Beladona | don't forget this is in beta, so I am sure they are looking at user feedback the whole way |
| 21:12.19 | Kirkburn | As Dr. Phloxx might say, "optimism" ... |
| 21:12.28 | Shadowed | It could be they find a way to make it work well, it could also be they do it in a bad way and it hurts more then helps. |
| 21:12.34 | Kirkburn | If onlt t'were already in beta |
| 21:12.37 | Kirkburn | *only |
| 21:13.00 | Beladona | the only thing I see there being an issue with is the fact that group members will be arguing over the difficulty level |
| 21:13.02 | Kirkburn | In fact, if only I'd had enough space on my laptop to join in the honor competition |
| 21:13.23 | Kirkburn | Part of the fun, I say :) |
| 21:13.24 | Shadowed | I regret not entering the level one |
| 21:13.26 | Shadowed | everyone won :( |
| 21:13.37 | Kirkburn | You mean the honor one, right |
| 21:13.47 | Beladona | this does fix a small issue that exists in static content. the fact you can virtually "fish out the pond" so to speak |
| 21:13.49 | Hexarobee | how do you send a whisper? |
| 21:13.52 | Shadowed | Though they said everyone won the leveling one? |
| 21:13.58 | Kirkburn | Ah, no, wait ... both |
| 21:14.01 | Beladona | now with difficulty levels though, it adds more dynamic to it |
| 21:14.02 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 21:14.14 | Shadowed | It really depends where they apply it too |
| 21:14.33 | Shadowed | If they add it to 5-10 man dungeons it shouldn't be that much of an issue, but if it's added to 20 or 40 then you start running into problems |
| 21:14.33 | Beladona | heading home, then to play. seeya laters! |
| 21:14.37 | Shadowed | later |
| 21:14.39 | JoshBorke | is it possible to create a scroll bar that behaves the same way one does in say Firefox? IE, the more information, the smaller the scroll-button becomes? |
| 21:14.43 | Kirkburn | laterrr |
| 21:18.14 | Kirov | Hexarobee - http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage |
| 21:25.19 | Hexarobee | thx =) |
| 21:25.28 | Hexarobee | wowChess is coming along ;) |
| 21:25.46 | Hexarobee | im not that far from being able to play a game with someone else, without move validation |
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| 21:29.27 | MentalPower | ~seen norganna |
| 21:29.45 | purl | norganna <n=chatzill@65.98.88.90> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 14h 25m 27s ago, saying: '*shifts'. |
| 21:30.19 | MentalPower | question, can anyone here access norganna.org? |
| 21:31.36 | Shadowed | nope |
| 21:31.44 | Shadowed | Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage |
| 21:32.49 | MentalPower | what about a tracert to 65.98.88.90 |
| 21:33.24 | Shadowed | tracing |
| 21:34.31 | Shadowed | Times out at hope 23, last IP was 65.98.0.229 |
| 21:34.45 | MentalPower | same here |
| 21:35.03 | MentalPower | looks like the entire ISP is down |
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| 22:10.08 | Shadowed | MentalPower: Do you happen to know how Auctioneer manages to register itself with Stubby while being LoD? |
| 22:10.37 | Shadowed | Been trying to work out a way to have a LoD addon register to be loaded, but can't really work out how Auctioneer is doing it |
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| 22:25.06 | cogwheel_ | Stubby probably knows about Auctioneer inherently... Stubby is probably the one that provides the /auctioneer command before auctioneer is actually loaded. |
| 22:27.47 | Shadowed | it doesn't look like it |
| 22:27.58 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.18 | Shadowed | that was what I originally though, but from the looks of it Auctioneer itself is registering with Stubby. |
| 22:31.31 | Shadowed | It's done in Auctioneer.lua, onLoad() around the top of the page. |
| 22:32.36 | Iriel | Does auctioneer list Stubby as an optional dependency? |
| 22:32.49 | Shadowed | required dependency |
| 22:35.26 | Shadowed | Since it's load on demand though, doesn't that mean the file is never loaded until you specifically tell it to? |
| 22:36.02 | cogwheel | man... this is like the chicken and the egg (though we know the egg came first because the first chicken was the genetic result of two chicken-like beings...) |
| 22:36.51 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.42 | Shadowed | Would using "local function onLoad()" then doing Auctioneer.OnLoad = onLoad; at the end of the code somehow let you register a load on demand addon? thats the only thing that seems unique to this thats letting it load. |
| 22:39.30 | Iriel | If an addon lists a LOD addon as a depdency, the LOD addon is loaded when the requiring addon is. |
| 22:39.40 | Iriel | So loading auctioneer will load stubby |
| 22:39.43 | Iriel | or is that not the question? |
| 22:40.02 | Iriel | Stubby remembers that auctioneer provides /auctioneer |
| 22:40.17 | cogwheel | no.... Auctioneer is LOD and depends on stubby which is not LOD |
| 22:40.18 | Iriel | And stubby loads load-on-demand addons it hasn't seen before that are stubbified (if that's the word) the first time they show up |
| 22:40.34 | Iriel | And then they register with it, and it saves that in its saved variables |
| 22:40.44 | Iriel | So the FIRST time auctioneer is present, Stubby loads it |
| 22:41.00 | cogwheel | but how does auctineer get loaded the first time? |
| 22:41.01 | Iriel | And then subsequent times, stubby knows it from before, and uses the data it stashed away in SV |
| 22:41.08 | Iriel | Stubby loads it |
| 22:41.21 | Iriel | Stubby looks for stubbified addons (I think it looks in the title for something specific) |
| 22:41.23 | Shadowed | Auctioneer lists Stubby as a required dependency, Stubby doesn't list Auctioneer as one |
| 22:41.27 | Iriel | Correct |
| 22:41.34 | Iriel | Stubby just iterates over the available addons |
| 22:41.46 | Shadowed | hmmm |
| 22:41.47 | Iriel | if you install 100 stubbified addons, they ALL get loaded the first time you log in |
| 22:41.53 | Iriel | It's actually very nicely done |
| 22:42.01 | Iriel | A clever solution to a problem |
| 22:42.33 | Shadowed | yep, thats how it does it |
| 22:42.47 | Shadowed | that is actually a clever solution, explains how it was doing it. |
| 22:42.56 | Shadowed | Thanks Iriel |
| 22:46.04 | cogwheel | shadowed - just found it if you were curious... Stubby.lua line 483 |
| 22:46.33 | Shadowed | Yeah, they just are going through the whole addon list and using GetAddOnDependency to check for stubby |
| 22:47.54 | Hexarobee | can i use ~ as a not operator, like blah == ~isBlack |
| 22:48.07 | Shadowed | you'd use ~= not == ~ |
| 22:48.25 | Hexarobee | well i dont want not equal, i want to invert isBlack, like a boolean |
| 22:48.29 | Shadowed | ah |
| 22:48.35 | Hexarobee | but i suppose it cant know thats a bool |
| 22:48.49 | Mikk | booleans are a little bit iffy yeah |
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| 22:48.57 | Mikk | though if you know for a fact that both are booleans |
| 22:49.02 | Mikk | ~= will work =) |
| 22:49.18 | Mikk | "x == not y" <-> "x ~= y" |
| 22:49.57 | JoshBorke | well, it will only evaluate to true if blah is either true or false, since not something is either true or false, therefore you can just use ~= |
| 22:50.21 | Mikk | the problem is that 1 is different from true |
| 22:50.31 | Mikk | so you have to know for sure it's two booleans |
| 22:50.42 | Hexarobee | sheesh i think yer right ;) |
| 22:50.50 | Mikk | ohwait |
| 22:50.54 | Iriel | not is the operator |
| 22:50.57 | Hexarobee | theyre both either 0 or 1 |
| 22:51.06 | Iriel | just do blah == (not isBlack) |
| 22:51.06 | Mikk | if( not(x) ~= not(y) ) |
| 22:51.12 | JoshBorke | Hexarobee: why not use true/false? |
| 22:51.22 | Iriel | or yeah, what mick said if you just want boolean equivalence |
| 22:51.51 | Mikk | note that 0 is a boolean true in Lua though |
| 22:52.03 | Mikk | everything except nil and false is true |
| 22:52.14 | Iriel | 0 is a very bad choice for 'false' in lua 8-) |
| 22:52.21 | Iriel | wow uses nil/1 for false/true mostly |
| 22:52.26 | Iriel | though false/true sometimes |
| 22:52.29 | Iriel | just to be difficult |
| 22:52.42 | Mikk | well... true/false didn't exist in lua4 |
| 22:52.52 | Mikk | afaik |
| 22:52.54 | JoshBorke | but it highlites in vim! |
| 22:54.31 | JoshBorke | anyone know of an addon that uses a horizontal scroll frame? |
| 22:54.34 | Iriel | Mikk: You are correct |
| 23:04.13 | End | hey, they finally got rid of that bogus UnitInParty()! |
| 23:04.37 | End | also |
| 23:04.50 | Shadowed | Added UnitInGroup |
| 23:04.54 | End | I'm seeing a new SetupFullscreenScale() |
| 23:05.13 | End | seems similar to SetupWorldMapScale() |
| 23:05.22 | End | but 3 or 4 frames use it |
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| 23:05.50 | Kirkburn | What's that then? |
| 23:05.59 | Kirov | Are they going to add a ui forum to the new forums? |
| 23:06.20 | Shadowed | they'll just ban all UI modding in 1.13 to makeup for the lack of forum |
| 23:06.53 | End | I notices they don't have a R&D forum |
| 23:06.59 | End | clearly they'll ban instances too |
| 23:07.02 | End | ;p |
| 23:07.04 | Shadowed | and realms |
| 23:07.09 | End | lol that too |
| 23:07.11 | Shadowed | will only be able to play on the test server |
| 23:07.15 | Kirov | eek! |
| 23:07.19 | Kirov | This is disasterous! |
| 23:07.31 | Kirov | we must post this dire information on the general forum! |
| 23:07.40 | End | incidently, they should have reenabled the old forums already |
| 23:07.49 | End | at least, I think it's been 24 hours |
| 23:07.55 | Shadowed | "Blizzard to replace World of Warcraft with Pong. 15$ a month subscription to remain" |
| 23:07.57 | Kirov | BLIZARD BANING INSTANSES PROOF INSID |
| 23:08.35 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 23:08.47 | Tem | keys& |
| 23:09.17 | Shadowed | and new keyboard! |
| 23:09.22 | Tem | yay! |
| 23:09.25 | Tem | I need one |
| 23:10.36 | cladhaire | anyone here in a horde raiding guild? |
| 23:11.20 | Kirov | hmm, no shift key, i guess i have to type everything in h4x0r now. bl1zz4rd b4/\//\/1/\/g 1/\/s74/\/cez1111 pr00f 1/\/s1d31111 |
| 23:11.21 | cladhaire | (And not a mage)? I'm trying to figure out where its best to have my hearth set, or the fastest way to get to BRM from org =) |
| 23:11.23 | End | I am |
| 23:11.42 | End | GG aint bad |
| 23:13.02 | End | (you still have a noticable flight to kargath though) |
| 23:13.22 | End | (some set it to kargath, and use mages at the end of raids to get back to org) |
| 23:13.24 | Iriel | It's 12 minutes after the time they said they'd bring them back up |
| 23:13.27 | Mikma | cladhaire: kargath |
| 23:13.31 | Mikk | GG is still nice though. Can get the blimp to everywhere else immediately |
| 23:13.36 | End | yeah |
| 23:13.45 | End | mine is currently set to kargath I think though |
| 23:13.53 | End | I alternate though :P |
| 23:14.09 | Mikk | I still think horde transports > * |
| 23:14.11 | End | always confusing when I forgot I set it to ...say..Kargath, in Kargath, and I try to hearth to Orgrimmar |
| 23:14.16 | Mikk | Org just sucks in relation to where all the cool instances are |
| 23:14.26 | End | yeah |
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| 23:14.46 | Mikk | I think the new elphville is going to become popular |
| 23:14.48 | End | bbl |
| 23:15.24 | Kirkburn | I think Exodar won't be =) |
| 23:16.20 | Mikk | erm no not so much |
| 23:17.04 | Shadowed | It's always fun when you have to figure out why your setting is being reset for no reason! |
| 23:17.13 | Kirov | hmm |
| 23:17.17 | cladhaire | can i solo MC attunement as a druid? |
| 23:17.20 | Kirov | alpha1 of Firefox 3.0 |
| 23:17.23 | Kirov | tempting |
| 23:17.36 | Mikk | cladhaire: if you hurry a lot at the end =P |
| 23:17.48 | cladhaire | which way do i go? |
| 23:17.53 | cladhaire | i just opened the SF key part |
| 23:18.13 | Mikk | you also need to lavajump a lot |
| 23:18.16 | Mikk | very exciting |
| 23:18.19 | cladhaire | ok |
| 23:18.20 | cladhaire | how do i go |
| 23:18.21 | cladhaire | ? |
| 23:18.22 | cladhaire | hurry |
| 23:18.24 | Mikma | Kirov: 3.0? |
| 23:18.25 | cladhaire | i have to raid in 12 minutes =) |
| 23:18.34 | Mikk | cladhaire: go to the dorf room |
| 23:18.43 | Mikk | the 7 dorfs |
| 23:18.48 | cladhaire | k |
| 23:18.54 | Mikk | actually, stop just shy of it |
| 23:18.59 | cladhaire | can i do it without pots? |
| 23:19.07 | Mikk | how much do you rock? =) |
| 23:19.12 | Mikk | i'd want a fire prot i think |
| 23:19.12 | Kirov | Mikma - yeah, they have downloads of the nightly builds ... for 3.0 |
| 23:19.29 | Mikma | Kirov: 2.0 ain't out yet and the are doing 3.0 .. |
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| 23:19.33 | cladhaire | no fire prot pots =( |
| 23:19.40 | Mikk | anyway |
| 23:19.47 | Mikk | the hard part is where you have to bypass the dorf chamber |
| 23:19.55 | Mikk | since you can't do the dwarves yourself |
| 23:20.01 | Mikk | you have to jump across the lava to the MC entrance |
| 23:20.09 | Mikk | and there's annoying little shits in the lava that'll attack you |
| 23:20.10 | cladhaire | boo |
| 23:20.40 | JoshBorke | stay stealthed |
| 23:20.52 | cladhaire | i main a rogue, so i do stealth well |
| 23:20.54 | JoshBorke | there's a video of it somewhere |
| 23:21.01 | cladhaire | yeah im using it |
| 23:21.06 | cladhaire | pots are going to screw me |
| 23:21.14 | JoshBorke | oh yea, there's a video of a rogue solo'ing the emp |
| 23:21.30 | cladhaire | i have to buy rocknut the beer right? |
| 23:21.32 | cladhaire | since i druid |
| 23:21.36 | cladhaire | can't pickpocket? |
| 23:21.40 | Hexarobee | is there a built in function that accepts a string and displays that string in a yes/no box and returns the result? |
| 23:21.49 | JoshBorke | Hexarobee: sorta |
| 23:21.49 | Hexarobee | like javascript's confirm(str) |
| 23:22.11 | Mikk | cladhaire: um yeah i assume so. unless you've done the succ's quest |
| 23:22.16 | Wobin | cladhaire: No |
| 23:22.17 | JoshBorke | Hexarobee: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Popup_Simple_Dialog_Boxes |
| 23:22.35 | Wobin | cladhaire: You don't need to even unlock the Lock |
| 23:22.48 | cladhaire | Wobin: What do i do then? |
| 23:22.49 | Wobin | you can basically lavajump all the way to attunement |
| 23:22.57 | cladhaire | i suck at lavajupming on my priest |
| 23:23.14 | Tem | lol |
| 23:23.19 | JoshBorke | if you're on your druid, you could probably heal through your suckage =D |
| 23:23.21 | Mikk | priest lavajumping > * |
| 23:23.25 | Mikk | hot + pw:shield. mmm. |
| 23:23.34 | Wobin | Granted, I only did this once, but head around to where the Lock would open the passageway and hop out the window there |
| 23:23.40 | cladhaire | made it past |
| 23:24.05 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.25 | Tem | you're still fighting that? |
| 23:24.31 | JoshBorke | Tem: lol, yes |
| 23:24.32 | cladhaire | NS/HT plus a healing pot might do it |
| 23:24.36 | JoshBorke | i can't get my slider to show |
| 23:24.50 | Mikk | JoshBorke: you need to set a size on the thumbtrack |
| 23:24.53 | JoshBorke | the buttons look great though =D |
| 23:24.55 | Mikk | and SetMinMaxValues |
| 23:25.00 | Mikk | and SetValue() |
| 23:25.04 | Wobin | hehe I wonder if waterform would get you through faster? =) |
| 23:25.06 | Mikk | after that the thumbtrack will show |
| 23:25.10 | Wobin | LavaSwimming |
| 23:25.12 | JoshBorke | how do i set a size on the thumbtrack? |
| 23:25.21 | Mikk | Er... size on the thumbtrack texture, i mean |
| 23:25.46 | JoshBorke | guffaw, if only ace SVN were up :-( |
| 23:25.48 | Mikk | The thumbtrack is the only visible component of the slider |
| 23:26.04 | Mikk | If you want anything else (background, border), you need to draw it yourself |
| 23:26.23 | JoshBorke | so, if i want to have the thumbtrack take up different amounts of the scroll area, i can just resize it? |
| 23:26.26 | cladhaire | made it to the island |
| 23:26.27 | cladhaire | now what |
| 23:26.30 | Wobin | woo =) |
| 23:26.37 | JoshBorke | keep swimming! :-D |
| 23:26.39 | Wobin | You have to get to the wall again |
| 23:26.47 | Wobin | on the other side |
| 23:26.50 | Mikk | JoshBorke: Cool idea. I never tried it. Probably. |
| 23:26.57 | cladhaire | swimming was really effective |
| 23:26.59 | Wobin | That'll end you up near the attunement |
| 23:27.01 | cladhaire | just have to be VERY careful |
| 23:27.08 | Wobin | hehe cool =) |
| 23:27.12 | JoshBorke | Mikk: yea, i want the thumb to resize as the available data grows |
| 23:27.20 | JoshBorke | just like it does in grown up applications |
| 23:27.25 | JoshBorke | feel free to do it first :-D |
| 23:28.03 | cladhaire | FUCK |
| 23:28.05 | cladhaire | i died. |
| 23:28.18 | Mikma | soloing MC? |
| 23:28.25 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 23:28.29 | cladhaire | i was SOOO Close. |
| 23:28.38 | cladhaire | i can do it again |
| 23:28.41 | Mikma | it may be... REALLY hard with druid since it don't have vanish |
| 23:28.47 | cladhaire | but the annhilator aggroed me off the island |
| 23:29.20 | JoshBorke | AH HA! i CAN piss off the goblins and still get to silithus |
| 23:29.25 | cladhaire | now if i was a stealthing shaman |
| 23:29.26 | cladhaire | mmm |
| 23:29.33 | JoshBorke | FROST SHOCK! |
| 23:29.38 | Mikma | reincarnate! |
| 23:30.24 | Mikk | cladhaire: in other news, sourceforge svn has a works-out-of-the-box version of wowbench now. i'm packaging it =) |
| 23:30.24 | cladhaire | the trick is getting far enough into the lava to not aggro the last two fire guys |
| 23:30.33 | cladhaire | woot! |
| 23:30.45 | Mikk | 1.12 and all! |
| 23:30.53 | cladhaire | haha nice |
| 23:31.32 | cladhaire | ok |
| 23:31.33 | cladhaire | going back in |
| 23:31.35 | cladhaire | wish me luck |
| 23:31.51 | Mikma | good luck |
| 23:31.55 | cladhaire | ooh. |
| 23:31.56 | cladhaire | 20 FR |
| 23:31.56 | cladhaire | haha |
| 23:32.17 | JoshBorke | good luck clad |
| 23:32.17 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 23:32.24 | cladhaire | have 50 FR with buffs =) |
| 23:32.33 | cladhaire | damnit.. i miss camo on my druid |
| 23:36.53 | cladhaire | ok |
| 23:36.56 | cladhaire | on the island again |
| 23:36.59 | cladhaire | i dont know if i can do this |
| 23:37.00 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:37.10 | cladhaire | if i had a fr pot i could |
| 23:37.19 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 23:37.45 | JoshBorke | you can do it! |
| 23:37.51 | JoshBorke | you have ze zkills! |
| 23:39.22 | cladhaire | ok |
| 23:39.26 | cladhaire | now to stealth the last two sets |
| 23:39.51 | cladhaire | ONE DOWN |
| 23:40.48 | Kirkburn | Stop talking and kill them :/ |
| 23:41.07 | cladhaire | done! |
| 23:41.50 | JoshBorke | i knew it! grats! |
| 23:42.12 | cladhaire | =) |
| 23:42.12 | cladhaire | thanks |
| 23:45.12 | cladhaire | thank god i had my shadowforge key =) |
| 23:52.08 | Kirkburn | congratulations! |
| 23:54.01 | JoshBorke | blah, i feel my guild falling apart |
| 23:55.09 | Tain | That's ok, very few guilds last. |
| 23:55.26 | Tain | It's more important to keep with the few people you enjoy playing with than a whole guild. |
| 23:55.29 | JoshBorke | i'll think it'll stay together, it'll just go back to the way it was |
| 23:55.34 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 23:55.45 | JoshBorke | no more raiding for the guild :-D |
| 23:55.52 | JoshBorke | we've made it this far |
| 23:58.22 | Mikk | Right. WoWBench 1.12 packages available on sourceforge and wowi. Uses latest FrameXML and has working SendAddonMessage. |
| 23:59.38 | Kirkburn | Nicely done, Mikk |
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