| 00:00.08 | Kirkburn | Spam incoming: |
| 00:00.13 | Kirkburn | There has been quite a bit of discussion on the boards lately concerning how current end-game gear will be replaced upon leveling in the Burning Crusade and we thought that many of you would appreciate some clarification. The basic idea is that players who have recently obtained level 60 will gain access to immediate upgrades from expansion quests and creatures. Our exact estimates as to when tier 3 gear will become outdated have |
| 00:00.13 | Kirkburn | shifted back and forth somewhat as we continue to tune the expansion, however not dramatically so. While we do anticipate players wearing full tier 3 gear to find some upgrades/sidegrades from new endgame dungeons, the big draw will be in Karazahn and higher. |
| 00:00.39 | Kirkburn | (http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/9259353.htm) |
| 00:01.20 | Hexarobi | ARGH |
| 00:01.31 | Hexarobi | the scroll down part of my mousewheel is broken |
| 00:03.16 | zespri_work | he contradicting himself |
| 00:03.20 | Kirkburn | How awful! |
| 00:03.40 | Kirkburn | Contradicting where? |
| 00:04.53 | Tain | "People magazine landed quite an exclusive this week with the cover story that Lance Bass, a former member of the boy band N'Sync has come out of the closet." |
| 00:05.00 | Kirkburn | oooh, pics of Neth and Coreiel .... now where's Tseric? |
| 00:06.01 | Kirkburn | Tain, such important news |
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| 00:08.52 | Bleeter | s'pose no one's seen anything that does an imitation of notes/API on the G15 stuff? apart from the lcdxml in the Blizzard Interface Data folder? |
| 00:09.36 | Bleeter | just trying to get a list of useful sources before jumping in and trying to code stuff |
| 00:10.41 | Kirkburn | What are you planning on coding? I didn't think that that part of the UI can be fiddled with |
| 00:11.07 | Bleeter | I was hoping to change the character stats that are displayed |
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| 00:11.33 | Bleeter | if char = hunter | lock then display minimum pet stats |
| 00:12.10 | Bleeter | or throw the screen wasting, but nevertheless useful, battle stats (dps, etc.) down there |
| 00:12.23 | zespri_work | Kirkburn, well, in the post that I linked he is saying that leveling items will be better then tire 3 and in the post the you've linked he is saying that items better then tire 3 are only found in dungeouns, i.e. they are not leveling items |
| 00:12.53 | Tain | We don't get any control whatsoever over what's displayed on the G15 LCD, Bleeter. |
| 00:12.53 | Kirkburn | Bleeter, afaik, it's not possible to change ... but don't quote me on that |
| 00:13.17 | Kirkburn | Moo |
| 00:13.51 | Bleeter | ok, no probs. I'd hoped it was changeable given the xml file we're given in the data dir. I did try hacking it last night, but with no results. I suspected that was just 'coz it was late (or it'd never work anyway) |
| 00:14.05 | Bleeter | thanks for your responses, I'll try and think of something else that'd be pointlessly useful |
| 00:14.35 | Kirkburn | zespri_work, tire 3? ;) I see what you mean though ... the bit I posted came second, so I'd take that as the more likely |
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| 00:15.40 | Kirkburn | Nah, you can't change the inbuilt UI files, and since there's no way to access the G15 stuff in-game, it's not gonna happen :P Too easy to mess with |
| 00:15.43 | wereHamster | live WoW streaming is just hours away from being real :P only need to figure out hot to get videolan to flip the video upside down and set it up as a streaming server |
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| 00:16.08 | Kirkburn | As long as you realise you're not the first =) |
| 00:16.34 | wereHamster | I'm sure I'm the first to do this on my platform :) |
| 00:16.47 | Kirkburn | Is it made of cheese? |
| 00:17.04 | norganna | if you could fiddle with the stuff displayed in the lcd it would be an easy way to get around the external communication stuff |
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| 00:17.30 | norganna | eg, get wow to write what you want to the lcd screen then have a third party app read the screen |
| 00:17.38 | norganna | all without breaking the tou |
| 00:17.45 | Kirkburn | (nethaera: http://www.tgdaily.com/picturegalleries/gallery-20060721-15.html, coreiel: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/Gr8kabookie/STA70420.jpg) |
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| 00:18.05 | norganna | i doubt blizz will ever allow you to control what is dispayed on the screen |
| 00:18.36 | Kirkburn | I doubt it too - too much coding for too little payback |
| 00:18.53 | Bleeter | unless logitech provide some protected API to stop stuff being read, I guess |
| 00:19.06 | Bleeter | rightio, I've definately got an appreciation of the issues involved. thx for your time. |
| 00:19.14 | Kirkburn | Rislyn won't code an option to turn off the bag scaling, so I doubt they'd do options for the G15 :) |
| 00:19.39 | Kirkburn | I don't doubt the devs will continue to fiddle with it though |
| 00:19.51 | Tain | It's all about keeping information from going out of the game. |
| 00:19.55 | Tain | Personally I say open it up! |
| 00:20.02 | Tain | But.. I'm not a Blizzard developer. |
| 00:20.15 | Kirkburn | If you can't beat them, join 'em ... |
| 00:20.33 | Bleeter | the queue info is the uber rocks. I can actually get work done whilst waiting to join AV now... def worth the purchase price of the kybd |
| 00:20.38 | Tain | If at first you don't succeed... well it probably isn't worth it anyway. |
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| 00:21.02 | Kirkburn | If at first you don't succeed, don't become a skydiver. |
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| 00:21.23 | Bleeter | If at first you don't suck seed, reincarnate as a budgeriegar |
| 00:21.33 | Kirkburn | Tweet tweet |
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| 00:22.43 | Kirkburn | No-one's told me what the PTRs are like ... what are the PTRs like? |
| 00:23.13 | norganna | They are pink and furry, and smell like cotton-candy... |
| 00:23.13 | Mikma | like.. PTR |
| 00:23.13 | Bleeter | mad, bad... and the queue length is insane (haven't seen it above 2 mins) |
| 00:23.31 | Bleeter | going to try some of the world pvp questing foo stuff this weekend |
| 00:23.46 | Kirkburn | That's totally insane! I'd never wait longer than 86 seconds! |
| 00:23.46 | Bleeter | still deciding if I like the forced raid group |
| 00:24.08 | norganna | it'll be awesome for healers |
| 00:24.15 | Kirkburn | Is it likely we'll get 1.12 next week then? |
| 00:24.31 | norganna | you'll get much more healing with the new forced raid groups |
| 00:24.33 | Bleeter | doubt it... prolly another two weeks at least |
| 00:25.00 | Bleeter | ptr's seem to be live for 4 weeks before anything gets near live, although I've heard in the past it might've been faster a few times |
| 00:25.24 | Bleeter | but i'm still pretty newb, so don't listen to me :) |
| 00:25.33 | norganna | because without raid groups, it's both difficult to and no benefit for a healer to heal you |
| 00:26.18 | norganna | as a priest, i think it's wonderful. it finally makes pvp healing a viable alternative |
| 00:27.11 | Kirkburn | Also, the BG raid group is not a 'normal' raid group iirc? |
| 00:27.12 | norganna | i might even respec away from shadow to a full healing build |
| 00:27.39 | Kirkburn | So, what's the predictions for 1.13? |
| 00:28.01 | norganna | isn't it? how do you mean it's not a normal raid group? |
| 00:29.45 | Kirkburn | If you're already in a group, you stay in it and can continue to talk in party chat |
| 00:30.02 | Kirkburn | It just no longer shows up on the info screems |
| 00:30.04 | Kirkburn | *screens |
| 00:33.41 | Kirkburn | 59,000 accounts, eh ... that's a lot of bannage |
| 00:35.09 | norganna | 59000? |
| 00:35.56 | norganna | where's this? |
| 00:39.42 | cladhaire | anyone had a chance to use watchdog on 1.12? |
| 00:39.46 | cladhaire | i haven't had a chance |
| 00:40.05 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/07/25/59-000-more-accounts-closed/ |
| 00:40.16 | Kirkburn | (for norganna, that link) |
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| 00:50.38 | norganna | thanks Kirkburn |
| 00:50.54 | norganna | they don't say anything about banning gold buyers |
| 00:51.03 | norganna | that's where the problem is |
| 00:52.11 | Kirkburn | true |
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| 00:54.32 | Bleeter | i suspect tracking gold buyers is a heck of a lot harder, although it'd be pretty obvious if a lvl 5 who's been playing for two weeks suddenly gets 500g from one player, there'd be practical methods around that which the seller could use |
| 00:55.17 | Bleeter | whereas tracing someone's movements who's accussed of botting ould be easier |
| 00:55.24 | Bleeter | hmm on second thoughts, maybe not |
| 00:55.36 | Kirkburn | Go for the drug dealer, rather than the buyers ... |
| 00:55.55 | Bleeter | go for the grower... shut wow down ;) |
| 00:56.06 | Kirkburn | hah |
| 00:56.42 | Hexarobi | i read an interesting argument about the solution to gold farming being the game company selling gold themselves |
| 00:56.54 | Cairenn | that's what SOE does now |
| 00:57.02 | Hexarobi | does it work? |
| 00:57.08 | Cairenn | I've no idea |
| 00:57.20 | Hexarobi | hehe right, cuz nobody plays EQ2 |
| 00:57.23 | Kirkburn | You give them money and they give you gold :P |
| 00:57.29 | Bleeter | hah |
| 00:57.33 | Hexarobi | i mean does it work to prevent farming =P |
| 00:57.42 | Kirkburn | Actually, it might be money for items not gold |
| 00:57.48 | Cairenn | it's in EQ, not EQ2 (although it may be there as well) |
| 00:58.04 | Hexarobi | im not reactivating my EQ accnt |
| 00:58.05 | Kirkburn | Items specifically for buyers, not drops |
| 00:58.10 | Hexarobi | whats the highest lvl thesedays? |
| 00:58.25 | Hexarobi | ya that seems lame |
| 00:58.36 | Hexarobi | selling items that u cant get ingame is LAME |
| 00:58.52 | Kirkburn | heh ... actually, there's good reason behind it |
| 00:58.54 | Hexarobi | but undercutting gold farmers at the source might be ok |
| 00:59.08 | Hexarobi | so they call sell a golden flying pig pet for $150? |
| 00:59.15 | Hexarobi | s/call/can |
| 00:59.21 | Bleeter | well there's the card trading game items, which basically is buying wow items for cash |
| 00:59.23 | Kirkburn | It means that you can identify buyers easily, without it impacting on in-game prices |
| 00:59.56 | Kirkburn | Ooh, on that subejct of card games |
| 01:00.24 | Kirkburn | The new WoW trading card game has special cards which will give people in-game rewards |
| 01:00.33 | Kirkburn | One is a MASSIVE ridable turtle |
| 01:00.33 | Bleeter | yeah, that's what I was talking about |
| 01:00.34 | Hexarobi | if you can get better items from cash than the best u can earn ingame, thats awful |
| 01:00.47 | Kirkburn | So it is Bleeter :P |
| 01:00.56 | Hexarobi | and if you can get better items for gold in the AH or bazaar, then theyll buy gold from gold farmers |
| 01:00.57 | Bleeter | Kirkburn: it's suggested that the mountable turtle has no speed increase... iut's just a mount ;) |
| 01:01.21 | Kirkburn | It's still bloody enormous! :P |
| 01:01.31 | Hexarobi | interesting |
| 01:01.32 | Bleeter | hehe |
| 01:01.52 | Bleeter | the way i read the announcement, though, the ingame stuff is only in the $100 packs, or was I mistaken? |
| 01:03.06 | Kirkburn | I didn't read it closely, I just stared at the ginormous turtle =) |
| 01:03.29 | Hexarobi | haha |
| 01:12.30 | MentalPower | \ |
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| 01:50.16 | Wobble | omg |
| 01:50.19 | Wobble | ridable turtle |
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| 01:50.58 | Wobble | Do you have an image of this fine turtle? |
| 01:52.59 | ckknight | hey, what's the public opinion of Ace right now? |
| 01:57.47 | Cogwheel | Well, with a response like that, you can bet it's not outrage... :P Seriously, though, I considered using it for BatteryMinder, but felt that it's too simple to warrant using Ace. As far as user-space is concerned, I haven't seen much opinion either way on the WoW forums or in-game... |
| 01:57.48 | Bleeter | Wobble: yeah, lemme dig up a url |
| 01:58.36 | Wobin | hurrah =) Thanks Bleeter =) |
| 01:59.17 | Bleeter | http://warcraftcardgame.com/2006/07/get-turtle-mount.html |
| 01:59.35 | Bleeter | (i've manually typed that in, any errors, etc., just head up to the top of the site and find it yerself ;-) :P |
| 02:02.29 | Wobin | heh |
| 02:02.35 | Wobin | omg |
| 02:02.44 | Wobin | thats... |
| 02:03.09 | Wobin | And I thought the mechanostriders looked stupid |
| 02:10.04 | Cogwheel | Is there any way to change the color of the text in an edit box? |
| 02:15.43 | Rallion | Yes. |
| 02:16.34 | Cogwheel | any hints? ;) |
| 02:17.42 | Rallion | No, I just know that there are addons that do LUA syntax coloring |
| 02:18.09 | Cogwheel | ah yes.... i'll have to look into that... |
| 02:18.22 | Cogwheel | I'm just trying to gray out the text in a disabled box. |
| 02:18.52 | cladhaire | ok folks |
| 02:18.54 | cladhaire | headed to bed =) |
| 02:20.30 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
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| 02:37.27 | Cogwheel | Rallion I was looking in the wrong spot... EditBoxes inherit SetTextColor from FontInstance :) |
| 02:57.51 | Rallion | heh, simple enough |
| 03:04.31 | Cogwheel | Would it be wrong of me to give my own addon a five star rating? ;) |
| 03:04.49 | Gngsk | what's your addon do? |
| 03:05.02 | Thrae|Away | Is it wrong for a senator to vote for himself? |
| 03:05.12 | Cogwheel | Good point... |
| 03:06.47 | Corrodias | as far as i'm aware, it's legal |
| 03:06.54 | Corrodias | if we're talking about the US |
| 03:07.10 | Cairenn | Cogwheel: you should enable your portal, then you could get your bug reports, feature requests etc, without having to give out your email addy |
| 03:07.30 | Cairenn | but that's just my opinion /shrug |
| 03:07.45 | Cogwheel | Is that in the user CP? (i made up an e-mail address for all my WoW exploits) |
| 03:07.47 | Corrodias | if you're looking for some kind of moral or ethical judgement, i can't help you with that. |
| 03:08.08 | Cairenn | front page, left hand side, in the menu |
| 03:08.13 | Cogwheel | exploits as in activities... not hacks... |
| 03:08.17 | Cogwheel | :P |
| 03:08.24 | Cairenn | same area as upload&update, etc |
| 03:08.28 | Cogwheel | K |
| 03:10.20 | MentalPower | anyone know a decent BLP viewer? |
| 03:10.24 | MentalPower | or a converter? |
| 03:10.32 | Cogwheel | google BLP2 viewerI think i'm gonna change the name of CastOnSelf |
| 03:10.51 | Cogwheel | gah... forgot to delete what i was typing |
| 03:11.09 | Thrae|Away | MentalPower: There's one for Windows on curse-gaming.com |
| 03:13.02 | norganna | mp - did you try xnview? |
| 03:13.15 | MentalPower | Idid,butithas issueswith certain BLP's |
| 03:13.35 | MentalPower | ~lart spacebar |
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| 03:13.58 | Cogwheel | I doubt that solved the problem, purl... |
| 03:19.09 | Thrae|Away | Tip: It is better to quest and die, then never to have quested at all. |
| 03:31.21 | Rallion | oh, yeah, a lot of the newer tips are pretty good |
| 03:31.51 | MentalPower | yep, I concurr |
| 03:31.57 | Corrodias | no more of that "press W to move forward" stuff, eh? |
| 03:32.52 | Rallion | i bet they have some kind of tip suggestion box |
| 03:33.29 | Rallion | I'd drop in a piece of paper that said "Mrghrghgghrrlrgh!" |
| 03:37.15 | MentalPower | A Priest a Paladin and Varimathras walk into a bar... |
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| 04:40.47 | Atreo | does Player_Auras_Changed return any arguments? |
| 04:44.49 | MentalPower | not that I know of |
| 04:44.53 | MentalPower | but check the wiki |
| 04:53.58 | Tem | god damn |
| 04:54.05 | Tem | the loot gods hate us |
| 04:54.15 | Tem | we |
| 04:54.22 | Tem | 're about to DE a Wrath BP |
| 04:54.50 | Tem | this is only like our 5th Nef kill |
| 05:13.33 | Tem | GG ATI |
| 05:13.56 | Tem | I with they'd fix that Searing Gorge crash issue |
| 05:14.28 | Tem | oh well, I guess that's it for me tonight |
| 05:14.32 | Tem | later everyone |
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| 06:57.44 | MentalPower | OMG, I just read the "Request to REMOVE API functions" post |
| 06:57.58 | MentalPower | sufficed to say, the guy is paranoid |
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| 07:16.21 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:16.45 | Cairenn|sleep | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=421342&p=1&tmp=1#post421342 |
| 07:17.09 | Wobin | Wow, it's like... sleeplinking =) |
| 07:17.13 | Wobin | Thank you Cair =) |
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| 07:17.19 | Cairenn|sleep | np |
| 07:17.27 | Cairenn|sleep | oh, and, insomnia ftl |
| 07:18.17 | Wobin | =( |
| 07:18.22 | MentalPower | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=421342&p=1&tmp=1#post421342 |
| 07:18.25 | MentalPower | bah |
| 07:18.40 | Wobin | Imarra's random caps is giving me the urge to stab their eyes out =( |
| 07:18.43 | MentalPower | Cair asleep links faster than I do |
| 07:19.09 | MentalPower | tried nyquil Cair? |
| 07:20.17 | Cairenn|sleep | considering the number of meds I take on a regular basis as it is, the last thing I want to do is take more if not absolutely critically necessary |
| 07:20.31 | MentalPower | :S |
| 07:20.38 | Cairenn|sleep | insomnia != absolutely critically necessary |
| 07:20.55 | Cairenn|sleep | unless it's ongoing for an extended number of nights |
| 07:21.17 | Cairenn|sleep | but thanks for the suggestioin :) |
| 07:22.00 | Wobin | You need a tall blonde muscular swede named Sven to come give you a massage before bed. |
| 07:22.05 | Wobin | (on retainer) |
| 07:22.15 | Cairenn|sleep | lol |
| 07:22.56 | Wobin | These are the necessary things you have to pencil into your budget, see? =) |
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| 07:40.00 | Shadowed | Apparnelty i've missed some stupid forum posts while i wasn't paying attention to IRC |
| 07:40.09 | Shadowed | except pretend i spelled stuff right |
| 07:40.46 | Shadowed | wow |
| 07:40.48 | Shadowed | that topic wins |
| 07:41.10 | Cairenn|sleep | stupid post of the week award? yeah, I agree, that wins |
| 07:41.31 | Shadowed | exactly, he should get a medal |
| 07:41.50 | Shadowed | you're not suppose to be here an hour after you changed your name to sleep by the way :p |
| 07:43.14 | Cairenn|sleep | insomnia |
| 07:43.20 | Shadowed | :( |
| 07:43.24 | Cairenn|sleep | trust me, I don't *want* to be here right now |
| 07:43.50 | Shadowed | fine, we hate you too! |
| 07:44.06 | Cairenn|sleep | I did qualify that with "right now" :p |
| 07:44.30 | Shadowed | If I ignore it then i can say you didn't say it :p |
| 07:55.13 | Shadowed | sleep well! |
| 08:38.33 | zespri | what is a good trinket mangement addon? |
| 09:03.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | trinketmenu. nuff said |
| 09:04.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | it even autoqueues trinkets if you want, not so much like itemrack in that you can set it to autoqueue on a million events, but it does a good job |
| 09:04.54 | kergoth | i love that trinketmenu can keep the menu displayed at all times, not just on mouseover like itemrack |
| 09:04.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, if your ToEP is on cooldown, it can swap to your ZHC until the ToEP cools down |
| 09:05.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if they're both cooled down, to another trinket, even |
| 09:05.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, not cooled |
| 09:05.36 | Gngsk | cooling |
| 09:06.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah :P |
| 09:40.02 | Priam | if i have a frame named "myFrame". this is equal to myFrame ? |
| 09:40.23 | Priam | "this" is equal to myFrame object? |
| 09:41.27 | kergoth | that depends on context. where? |
| 09:41.50 | Priam | on the <onloaldW event of this frame |
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| 10:37.04 | wereHamster | morning |
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| 13:03.07 | zespri | cheers |
| 13:09.56 | Kaso | The "You receive item: []x3 thing is bugged for tubers and NDB |
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| 14:01.35 | Industrial | should be *3 |
| 14:01.36 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:05.44 | wereHamster | live video stream from silithus: http://dbservice.com:61024 8-) |
| 14:10.33 | Beladona | anyone know of an existing addon that utilizes sticky frames? or the ability to stock one frame to another when it is within a certain range of the other frame? |
| 14:10.41 | Beladona | stock = stick |
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| 14:13.54 | Zicon | beladona: The bars in Bongos stick together. |
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| 14:40.16 | Priam | what is the function to display a red error message (at the middle top of the screen). Thank's |
| 14:42.45 | wereHamster | UIErrorsFrame:AddMessage() ? |
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| 14:52.39 | Priam | ok thank's |
| 14:52.48 | Priam | thanks |
| 15:01.47 | Hexarobi | mornin |
| 15:02.34 | Priam | another file than GlobalStrings contain localizated strings? |
| 15:02.36 | Priam | hi |
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| 15:20.11 | cogwheel | :( why is it that i can log into the game but not the forums when they're billing my account... |
| 15:20.50 | Hexarobi | hehehe |
| 15:23.37 | Cairenn | dunno why they've got it set up that way, but a) it's always been that way and b) it sucks |
| 15:24.01 | cogwheel | a) /sigh... yeah... b) QFT |
| 15:25.14 | Cairenn | another advantage to this channel ... if you've got something you really need posted while in billing purgatory, you can ask someone here to post it on your behalf |
| 15:25.39 | Cairenn | also great for posting to the other forums (US vs EU) |
| 15:25.49 | cogwheel | I wouldn't feel comfortable asking someone to bump my "New Addon" thread :o) |
| 15:25.55 | Hexarobi | haha |
| 15:26.41 | cogwheel | Besides, Deadlykris could use a day without me shortening her (his?) macros... lol |
| 15:31.09 | Rallion | I hate the forums so much. So much. |
| 15:32.11 | cogwheel | The beta forums look nice... i just hope they can handle the load once they go live. |
| 15:32.21 | cogwheel | I also hope the fix the [pre] double line bug |
| 15:32.33 | Cairenn | I got rather burned out by them, that's why I haven't been around so much. Taking a break from them, hoping it gets to the point that I'll be able to stand going back to them. |
| 15:32.52 | cogwheel | s/e the/e they |
| 15:33.14 | cogwheel | did i miss something or is purl dead again? |
| 15:33.18 | Cairenn | you need a closing / if you want purl to actually do the substitution |
| 15:33.20 | Rallion | I'm just talking about hatred from a technical standpoint, the content is a whole separate hatred |
| 15:33.29 | cogwheel | ah |
| 15:33.36 | Hexarobi | s/aha/arry/ |
| 15:33.46 | cogwheel | is there a manual for purl anywhere? :) |
| 15:33.52 | Cairenn | not really |
| 15:34.20 | Hexarobi | s/arry/ulabaloo/ |
| 15:34.30 | Rallion | lol |
| 15:34.48 | MoonWolf | it only work on your last message, and i don't think substitute command count. |
| 15:35.01 | Rallion | s/oll/whaaa/ |
| 15:35.09 | Rallion | that was weird how it made 'harry' |
| 15:35.21 | Hexarobi | hehe, the last think i had said was "haha" |
| 15:35.35 | cogwheel | s/:)/:(/ |
| 15:35.35 | Rallion | haha oh |
| 15:35.36 | Rallion | sigh |
| 15:35.37 | Cairenn | you are also expected to spell the word that you wish to replace the same way you spelled it the first time ;) |
| 15:35.40 | Rallion | i need to go back to sleep |
| 15:35.48 | Hexarobi | s/hehe, the last think i had said was "haha"/duh/ |
| 15:36.04 | Rallion | i got about two hours, then I had to drive my sister to work |
| 15:36.22 | Hexarobi | does it do other perl commands? |
| 15:36.26 | Cairenn | ~rlart |
| 15:36.30 | Rallion | and now I'm trying to do the 'stay up with the help of the magic caffeine' thing but I should really just lie down |
| 15:36.40 | Mikma | ohnoes |
| 15:36.41 | Hexarobi | testing12test |
| 15:36.49 | Hexarobi | s/test/blah/ |
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| 15:37.17 | Rallion | as far as I can tell, 'normal' amounts of caffeine don't even do anything for me anymore anyway, except stave off headaches |
| 15:37.36 | Hexarobi | testing12test |
| 15:38.14 | cogwheel | hehe... I recently went cold turkey off caffeine after drinking 3-4 mountain dews a day... I took some pills for the headaches, and realized they had caffeine... :S |
| 15:38.46 | Hexarobi | s/test/blah/2 |
| 15:39.03 | Hexarobi | s/t{5}/blah/ |
| 15:39.37 | Hexarobi | testing blah |
| 15:39.51 | Hexarobi | s/\w/no/ |
| 15:39.58 | Rallion | 3-4 a day...heh...I used to drink 12 or so |
| 15:40.04 | Rallion | maybe more like 8 |
| 15:40.38 | cogwheel | test2 |
| 15:40.49 | cogwheel | s/%w/la/ |
| 15:41.57 | Rallion | actually for a long time I kept typing +me |
| 15:42.31 | Hexarobi | test |
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| 16:00.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use /me in wow, so all the same :P |
| 16:01.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | you could do /e /me $$1- in your Aliases D: |
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| 16:53.24 | Kirkburn | oooh thunder |
| 16:55.06 | Kirkburn | s/r/rcats/ |
| 16:55.31 | Kirkburn | What fun |
| 16:55.44 | Kirkburn | I do love the smell of a good thunderstorm |
| 16:55.56 | cogwheel | I don't get those very much where i live... |
| 16:56.20 | Kirkburn | Death Valley?? |
| 16:56.23 | cogwheel | California has boring weather. And the earthquakes are few and far between |
| 16:56.41 | cogwheel | dispite media messages to the contrary |
| 16:56.42 | Kirkburn | Well, er, I don't get many earthquakes here either |
| 16:57.02 | Kirkburn | We do get the highest density of tornadoes though |
| 16:57.35 | Kirkburn | If there's one good thing about a thunderstorm, it means I don't have to water the garden again :) |
| 16:57.44 | cogwheel | Heh... Ever since I was about 6 and there was a tornado in sonoma county (nothing major) I've had nightmares about tornados |
| 16:58.00 | cogwheel | s/tornados/tornado(e)s?/ |
| 16:58.56 | Cairenn | potatoEs :p |
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| 16:59.46 | Kirkburn1 | Power cut :) |
| 16:59.54 | Kirkburn1 | (I'm in the UK btw) |
| 17:00.37 | Kirkburn1 | I should probably D/C for a while until it goes |
| 17:01.01 | Kirov | Kirkburn - you guys need to go get more french to pedal those bikes in the power plants |
| 17:01.27 | Kirkburn1 | Oooh, big thunder, sheet lightning, everything :D |
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| 17:13.03 | Triadian | kirk where ya at ? im central and aint here yet but getting dark |
| 17:20.39 | Beladona | anyone have experience, or know how to add another tab to the interface optiions? |
| 17:20.46 | Beladona | or can we even |
| 17:23.36 | Triadian | no idea but its been updated in 1.12 - so might wanna look at it |
| 17:24.23 | Beladona | yeah saw that |
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| 18:20.38 | Kirov | Cide - did TS get the non-broken version of STranq? |
| 18:37.14 | Cide | dunno |
| 18:37.17 | Cide | he said there were more errors on load |
| 18:39.53 | Kirov | mrph |
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| 18:48.09 | Rallion | why couldn't blizzard have just made the keyring work like any other bag? |
| 18:48.40 | Shadowed | Because simple isn't allowed! |
| 18:48.45 | Rallion | apparently. |
| 18:50.40 | Iriel|working | I suspect it's implemented very differently behind the scenes, and perhaps they didn't want to confuse any existing bag addons |
| 18:52.08 | Rallion | there's that, but I don't see why it would HAVE to be all that different behind the scenes |
| 18:52.56 | Rallion | it's not as if it inctroduced new types of behavior |
| 18:54.04 | Shadowed | Well, if they added it as a new bag it would probably break any sort of bag scanning |
| 18:54.40 | Rallion | okay, what I really should have said is "why couldn't blizzard have just made the keyring work like the backpack" |
| 19:02.49 | Beladona | has anyone integrated it into an all in one bag solution yet? |
| 19:02.51 | Tem | NOO! |
| 19:03.02 | Beladona | maybe as a row of slots that are slightly seprate from the rest |
| 19:03.03 | Tem | Billing purgatory sux |
| 19:05.28 | Beladona | woot, I managed to add a tab to the interface options panel |
| 19:05.40 | Tem | grats |
| 19:05.45 | Tem | now make it less ugly |
| 19:06.01 | Beladona | which one? the new one on test? |
| 19:06.04 | Tem | the new one assaults my eyes |
| 19:06.11 | Tem | yeah, the PTR version |
| 19:06.15 | Beladona | it is kinda big, but I like it better than the old |
| 19:06.29 | Tem | someone thought it would be a good idea to use a parchment background |
| 19:06.40 | Beladona | I would be itnerested in converting it into a format similar to the CT mod options window though. But with check buttons and stuff like it has now |
| 19:07.03 | Tem | I was never a big fan of the spellbook style options windows |
| 19:07.11 | Shadowed | agreed! |
| 19:07.21 | Beladona | thats what I mean. Same window, but not smell slots |
| 19:07.25 | Beladona | spell* |
| 19:07.37 | Beladona | check buttons and stuff, like the current options panel uses |
| 19:07.38 | Kirov | smell slots, lol |
| 19:07.49 | Tem | but I would prefer that over the current way |
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| 19:18.42 | cogwheel | Beladonna: re: all in one bag solution: EngBags updated has keyring support... |
| 19:21.56 | Rallion | as far as I know, it's the only one that doesn't just open the default keyring |
| 19:22.37 | cogwheel | s/nna/na/ |
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| 19:35.54 | Rallion | you know what's fun? looking through the WoW icon set for something that suits your purposes is fun! |
| 19:35.59 | Rallion | woo! |
| 19:36.03 | Industrial | anyone here use 7zip? |
| 19:36.14 | Rallion | i do |
| 19:36.24 | krka | i have used it at work for compressing jar files |
| 19:36.29 | Industrial | never mind |
| 19:36.34 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:36.54 | cogwheel_ | i do |
| 19:40.47 | Rallion | yeah...I want to find icons that make sense to designate ench/herb/soul bags |
| 19:40.53 | Rallion | soul bag should just be a shard |
| 19:41.24 | Rallion | for herb I guess I could just make it peacebloom, and for ench just dust |
| 19:41.39 | Rallion | no...essence. greater essence. prettier. |
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| 19:53.50 | cogwheel | Bah... the day Slouken adds a feature I requested, i can't log into the forums 'cause of the billing cycle... |
| 19:54.54 | Kirov | heh |
| 19:55.00 | Kirov | want me to post for you? |
| 19:55.10 | cogwheel | if you like :) |
| 19:55.23 | cogwheel | I was just gonna say /cheer |
| 19:55.58 | Kirov | yay! |
| 19:56.01 | Kirov | in |
| 19:59.15 | Kirov | done |
| 19:59.21 | cogwheel | hehe... thanks :) |
| 20:00.01 | Rallion | I think I'm going to include a 'normal' mode in my EngBags clone, where it just looks like Onebag or Bagnon |
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| 20:15.05 | Kirkburn | Gotta love power cuts |
| 20:15.39 | cogwheel | ... I live in California... I *know* power problems... |
| 20:16.02 | cogwheel | We elected the terminator because of them :S |
| 20:16.23 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 20:16.36 | Kirkburn | Was quite a nice thunderstorm though :) |
| 20:16.59 | Kirkburn | The grass in the garden has pretty much completely died due to the drought here :/ |
| 20:18.29 | Rallion | I'd actually use a standalone program designed to ease the process or rearranging functions within or between files. |
| 20:19.34 | Rallion | I want a good thunderstorm... |
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| 20:20.35 | Rallion | well, it's 93 degrees, but no thunderstorm. |
| 20:21.00 | Rallion | scattered thunderstorms all around but I don't expect to see any |
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| 20:38.40 | cogwheel | print(1 and "hi" or "bye") print(0 and "hi" or "bye") should print "hibye" right? |
| 20:42.00 | Kirov | no |
| 20:42.04 | Rallion | hihi |
| 20:42.14 | Kirov | 0 and 1 both evaluate to true in lua |
| 20:42.28 | Kirov | nil and false are the only ones that evaluate to false |
| 20:42.44 | cogwheel | oh... |
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| 20:48.02 | Kirov | You know what would of been awesome? If you could put in as many delimiters as you wanted for the SendAddonMessage and it'd automatically split them up and return them each. |
| 20:50.15 | Shadowed | I'm just happy we got it and that we have an easy to use prefix to figure out which addon sent it :p |
| 20:51.00 | Kirov | I'm going to abuse that prefix |
| 20:51.11 | Shadowed | how are you going to do that? |
| 20:51.26 | Kirov | send my message in the prefix, and the prefix in the message |
| 20:51.29 | Kirov | mwahahaha |
| 20:51.31 | Kirov | er, no |
| 20:52.13 | Kirov | "MyMod" "General Stuff" |
| 20:52.13 | Kirov | "MyModSpecial" "More Spammy Stuff" |
| 20:52.54 | Kirov | With unique prefixes for each of the spammy events. |
| 20:53.09 | Shadowed | You should just make it use CTRA's prefix |
| 20:53.16 | Kirov | lol |
| 20:53.30 | Shadowed | and then "accidently" use some of the same commands it does |
| 20:54.02 | Kirov | "CTRA" "MS "..getsum(tabledata[2]) |
| 20:54.12 | Kirov | mwahaha |
| 20:54.37 | Shadowed | then figure out a way to blame Cide |
| 20:55.02 | Kirov | Nah, I'll just blaim Cosmos, people might actually believe me then. |
| 20:55.10 | Tem | hH |
| 20:55.13 | Tem | hah |
| 20:56.15 | Kirov | "No no, Cosmos has a new mod called Cosmos Timed Raid Agro that's super spammy, they're using "MS" to denote mortal strike |
| 20:56.52 | Tem | >< |
| 20:58.50 | Shadowed | so mean :p |
| 20:59.51 | cogwheel | My wife would believe you... |
| 20:59.58 | cogwheel | she's a cosmos user and very gullible :P |
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| 21:43.35 | Abenadi | so, quick question - will this result in a runtime error: var=nil; if var and var>0 then dosomething() end |
| 21:44.23 | cogwheel | nope |
| 21:44.33 | cogwheel | assuming dosomething exists... |
| 21:44.39 | Abenadi | right |
| 21:44.56 | Abenadi | just wondering if it would skip evaluating the if statement after "1 strike" |
| 21:45.18 | Kirov | if there aren't any "or"s, yes |
| 21:45.29 | cogwheel | yep. it does something else neat... it evaluates to the values of the operands to and instead of true or false. |
| 21:45.46 | cogwheel | a and b or c returns b if a and b are true or c otherwise |
| 21:45.58 | cogwheel | like a ? b : c from C |
| 21:46.30 | Abenadi | I only kind of understand that |
| 21:46.39 | Abenadi | i'll stick to if (a) elseif (b) else c end |
| 21:47.13 | cogwheel | It's useful for fitting things in the 255 char limit of macros :) |
| 21:47.28 | Abenadi | that's true : ) |
| 21:48.43 | cogwheel | think of it this way... For the expression (a and b), once a is determined to be false, b doesn't matter, so a is returned. If a is true, then only b matters, so it returns b... |
| 21:49.26 | cogwheel | for (a or b), once a is true, b doesn't matter. if a is false, then b is all that matters. |
| 21:50.05 | cogwheel | false1 and true1 or true2 -> false1 or true2 -> true2 |
| 21:50.46 | cogwheel | (everything besides nil and false are considered true) |
| 21:52.15 | cogwheel | This is one of the reasons I fell in love with Lua :) |
| 21:53.10 | cogwheel | http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/laurgrund/ctrlaltdel.jpg |
| 21:53.28 | Kirkburn1 | heh |
| 22:11.28 | Mikk | "get lost fucktard" |
| 22:11.42 | Mikk | damn. took a while. i'm not 1337 enough =P |
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| 22:17.36 | Kirkburn1 | Anyone know whether this belongs on the wiki? http://www.wowwiki.com/NeonPoison |
| 22:17.49 | Kirkburn1 | Mikk?? |
| 22:19.00 | Mikk | yeah i'd say so |
| 22:20.06 | Mikk | there's a bunch of other articles on people that have made a name for themselves in Category:Community |
| 22:21.02 | Kirkburn1 | I'm intrigued by the 'Lord of China.' title :P |
| 22:22.38 | Kirkburn1 | Scary :P http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Fandyllic/Sandbox#US |
| 22:23.00 | Kirkburn1 | Anyone know what tigerclaw's job is exactly? |
| 22:23.29 | Mikk | aaaaargh! my cpu! |
| 22:24.08 | Kirkburn1 | It doesn't seem to have affected your ability to post, so I guess it's not on fire ... |
| 22:25.33 | Shadowed | Adding my realm to the watch list on wiki was probably a bad idea |
| 22:25.59 | Kirkburn1 | heh |
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| 22:31.55 | cogwheel | Do any of you feel like this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/MrPaulie/TypeFreakOut.gif (it's someone's avatar in my guild's forums...) |
| 22:33.30 | cogwheel | s/u f/u ever f/ |
| 22:37.07 | cogwheel | testing... |
| 22:37.11 | cogwheel | purl, status? |
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| 23:00.34 | Kirkburn1 | Lovely animated page :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Blizzard_forum_posters |
| 23:01.19 | Iriel|working | God damn it |
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| 23:01.30 | Shadowed | ? |
| 23:01.43 | Kirkburn1 | Nice, cogwheel :P |
| 23:02.09 | Iriel|working | They disabled the wow forums to test the beta ones, but there's no UI forum there |
| 23:02.18 | Kirkburn1 | Ooh, that |
| 23:02.26 | Shadowed | Blizzard is going to face the wrath of Iriel?\ |
| 23:03.30 | cogwheel | dang... still can't log into the beta ones either... |
| 23:11.44 | Kirkburn1 | The beta forums are still somewhat broken on IE7 |
| 23:12.01 | Kirkburn1 | (I like how it now has themes though) |
| 23:12.06 | cogwheel | [pre] looks better than firefox still, though... |
| 23:12.34 | Kirkburn1 | ? |
| 23:12.44 | Iriel|working | [pre] editing works |
| 23:12.56 | cogwheel | yeah, but it shows up with extra lines in between in firefox |
| 23:13.30 | Kirkburn1 | Iriel, it's only one day without the UI forum :P However do you cope on holiday? ;) |
| 23:13.46 | cogwheel | or when your account is being billed? |
| 23:14.05 | Iriel|working | I have the 6 month subscription plan, so deal with that infrequently |
| 23:14.10 | Kirkburn | Same here |
| 23:14.14 | Iriel|working | It's just annoying because I hit a forum link right as they turned it off |
| 23:14.17 | cogwheel | Hmm... maybe i should try that :) |
| 23:15.39 | Iriel|working | Oddly enough the time they say we get our forums back is midnight LAST NIGHT |
| 23:18.01 | cladhaire | Iriel|working: I'm logged in on the old forums |
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| 23:18.12 | cladhaire | just logged in, or is the issue something different? |
| 23:18.45 | cogwheel | it's read-only according to the post. |
| 23:19.06 | Iriel|working | cladhaire : You can't post |
| 23:19.19 | cladhaire | ah |
| 23:19.21 | cladhaire | i see now =) |
| 23:19.28 | cladhaire | it was going slow, so I hadn't gotten there yet =) |
| 23:20.04 | Kirkburn | Haha: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16411664&sid=1 |
| 23:20.40 | Kirkburn | Dammit, post histories is still broken |
| 23:23.09 | Kirkburn | :( I don't want to have to switch to FF every time I use the forums |
| 23:23.41 | Iriel|working | Just use FF all the time, problem solved |
| 23:23.42 | Iriel|working | 8-) |
| 23:24.13 | Kirkburn | I like IE7 more 88-) |
| 23:31.49 | Shadowed | It would be nice if they actually made stuff compatabile with more browsers though :p |
| 23:32.17 | Shadowed | Having worldofwarcraft.com be slower/uglier because it's IE seems kind of odd since it's an actual company |
| 23:33.14 | Kirov | I think the issue is more it would be nice if IE was compatible with more web sites. |
| 23:33.45 | Kirov | Don't blaim Firefox for actually doing what the web page tells it to. |
| 23:35.10 | Shadowed | I never blamed FF for it. But Blizzard isn't exactly a hobby site, you'd hope they would at least try to have something that is usual or looks decent for the populare browsers. |
| 23:35.12 | Shadowed | bah he left! |
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