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| 00:13.31 | Mikord | hello folks |
| 00:13.39 | Cairenn | hi Mikord |
| 00:16.45 | zenzio | for crying out loud... need a Burning Essence from the dark coffer, so I do a run with some guildies. The Dark Keeper is in the bar; tough pull, and in the process we wipe a few times... and when we finally get back, what's in the coffer? |
| 00:16.49 | zenzio | one Aquamarine |
| 00:17.08 | Mikk | burning coffer farming is rogue work |
| 00:17.18 | Cide | hm - we can't play midi files with PlaySoundFile, can we? |
| 00:17.28 | Kirov | lol |
| 00:17.35 | Mikk | rogue+rogue works. rogue+druid aswell. |
| 00:17.39 | Kirov | good lord, I hope not |
| 00:18.02 | Mikk | i've found it a good practice to simply swap equal time work. |
| 00:18.24 | Mikk | if it takes two rogues 2 hours to get your burning essence, i go out and do stuff for them for 2x2 hours |
| 00:18.28 | Mikk | farming herbs or whatever |
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| 00:19.43 | Mikk | or running in strath pugs for righteous orbs =) |
| 00:19.55 | Mikk | rogues tend to go through those like underwear =P |
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| 00:54.55 | esp|Syn | lo |
| 00:58.30 | Cairenn | hi esp|Syn |
| 01:00.59 | esp|Syn | ive been wondering |
| 01:01.32 | esp|Syn | would it be possible to intercept whispers and make them show in a window like a msn message window? |
| 01:01.44 | Mikord | shouldn't be a problem esp |
| 01:01.59 | esp|Syn | hrm ill give it a go then |
| 01:02.05 | esp|Syn | since i cant find anything like that |
| 01:02.08 | Mikord | you can supress whispers |
| 01:02.23 | Mikord | so I don't see why taking what it says and redisplaying it somewhere else wouldn't be doable |
| 01:02.48 | esp|Syn | cool |
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| 01:03.55 | Qzot | esp, I've wanted exactly that. go for it. |
| 01:05.04 | Qzot | esp: the other thing i've wanted is something that will suppress whispers while I'm in combat, and then will put them in my chat log after I'm out of combat. Unless they're from party-/raid-mates, of course. |
| 01:05.35 | Cairenn | there are a few like that already |
| 01:05.45 | Qzot | Of course. :D |
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| 01:06.52 | Cairenn | like the msn, not the other |
| 01:07.10 | esp|Syn | i cant find one |
| 01:07.48 | Qzot | Ohhhh. So I actually have an idea that hasn't been implemented yet?? ;) |
| 01:08.20 | Cairenn | no idea, just I've never seen one like it |
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| 01:10.18 | Qzot | Bye, all. |
| 01:10.26 | esp|Syn | i can do that Qzot |
| 01:10.29 | esp|Syn | ill add it in |
| 01:10.32 | esp|Syn | tomoro when i start |
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| 01:27.58 | Mikk | Hummmmmmm... is there some way to tell how HIGH a FontString is? |
| 01:28.01 | Mikk | Multi-line one that is |
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| 03:18.58 | MentalPower | wb Cairenn |
| 03:19.05 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 03:19.18 | MentalPower | how was the walk? |
| 03:19.24 | Cairenn | quick |
| 03:19.35 | MentalPower | cool |
| 03:19.43 | Cairenn | speed, not length, that is |
| 03:20.19 | MentalPower | ah, IC |
| 03:25.48 | Hexarobi | thirty thousand leagues under the sea! |
| 03:38.17 | Cairenn | not quite, but a couple kilometers in 1/2 hr |
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| 03:40.13 | Cairenn | had to cut the length of time shorter than usual this evening, too hard for my daughter to breath out there right now |
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| 05:04.16 | MentalPower | seem everyone is partying |
| 05:04.23 | MentalPower | really quiet here tonight |
| 05:04.29 | Cairenn | aye |
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| 05:07.20 | MentalPower | man, parsing game files is so awesome |
| 05:07.22 | MentalPower | not |
| 05:09.42 | Renyun | lol |
| 05:10.09 | Renyun | since when is parsing anything else exciting? |
| 05:10.18 | Corrodias | i enjoy parsing porn |
| 05:10.24 | Renyun | fair enough |
| 05:26.58 | Shadowed | I though we scared away Rislyn |
| 05:27.08 | Shadowed | and by "we" i mean "Iriel and Cairenn" |
| 05:29.09 | Kirov | those trouble makers |
| 05:29.21 | Shadowed | Tem probably had something to do with it too |
| 05:48.26 | Shadowed | ah they put the BATTLEGROUND addon message type in with the latest PTR patch |
| 05:52.24 | Mikk | do you think if we keep bugging them enough they give us WHISPER? =) |
| 05:54.30 | Shadowed | The only reason they added BATTLEGROUND was because they would basically kill *any* ability to do communication inside battlegrounds including mods like CTRA. |
| 05:58.04 | Shadowed | well, do any communication reliably that is |
| 06:19.45 | Kirov | ? |
| 06:20.40 | Kirov | I don't get how it would kill CTRA? |
| 06:22.04 | Wobin | With a knife |
| 06:22.16 | Cairenn | in the study |
| 06:23.08 | MentalPower | by Dr. Plum |
| 06:23.18 | MentalPower | Prof Plum* |
| 06:23.31 | End | No, no, Mr Green! |
| 06:23.36 | End | Colonel Mustard |
| 06:23.46 | End | Scarlet whatsherface |
| 06:23.55 | End | uh some white guy? |
| 06:24.02 | MentalPower | white chick |
| 06:24.09 | End | white chick? |
| 06:24.10 | MentalPower | the maid |
| 06:24.13 | End | oh yeah |
| 06:24.15 | End | her |
| 06:24.17 | End | uh... |
| 06:24.27 | End | I have no idea what her name is |
| 06:24.32 | MentalPower | neither do I |
| 06:24.48 | MentalPower | ~google Clue Characters |
| 06:25.01 | MentalPower | hmm... no google on purl |
| 06:25.38 | End | Missus Peacock |
| 06:25.51 | End | Misses White |
| 06:25.58 | End | (that's what it says) |
| 06:26.34 | Cairenn | good thing you guys have day jobs :p |
| 06:26.48 | End | >_< |
| 06:26.54 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 06:28.35 | MentalPower | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluedo |
| 06:28.43 | MentalPower | not all of us Cairenn :| |
| 06:28.58 | Cairenn | MentalPower: too true |
| 06:30.49 | MentalPower | interesting fact |
| 06:31.19 | MentalPower | In the musical version of the game, the role of Mrs White is traditionally played by a crossdressing man. |
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| 06:45.30 | Corrodias | musical version of the game? |
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| 06:59.10 | MentalPower | Corrodias: Musical, as in theater version |
| 07:01.00 | Mikk | Muaha.... "How to implement a fully functional multi-line tooltip that does resizing, delay before show, and automatically hides when you leave the target frame in 60 lines of Lua or less." |
| 07:01.06 | Mikk | ..."With lots of blank lines for readability" =) |
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| 07:21.25 | MentalPower | gnight folks |
| 07:21.35 | Mikk | gnite |
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| 08:18.54 | Industrial | level 3letterclass name |
| 08:19.08 | Industrial | hard/easy classcolor hostile/friendly |
| 08:19.12 | Industrial | all I need |
| 08:19.30 | Industrial | oh and to follow my mouse |
| 08:19.53 | Mikk | That'll be TinyTip you want |
| 08:20.06 | Mikk | This is for UI elements, not world objects |
| 08:20.34 | Mikk | TinyTip can show bare minimums in the cursor tooltip, and lots more in the bottomright if you like |
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| 08:21.43 | Industrial | yep |
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| 08:31.08 | Shadowed | Doubt you're still here Kirov, but. You can't use custom channels to communicate across battlegrounds, can only do that using the zone channels and /bg. So basically any sort of mod that relied on RAID, PARTY or channels for communication would break inside a battleground. |
| 08:31.24 | Shadowed | *RAID or PARTY addon messages |
| 08:32.38 | Kirov | amazingly, still here |
| 08:32.41 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 08:33.07 | Shadowed | but yeah, thats pretty much any comm mod for raids/parties wouldn't work inside a battleground :p |
| 08:34.18 | Kirov | odd |
| 08:35.02 | Shadowed | Theres one easy reason why they didn't make RAID/PARTY work in battlegrounds though |
| 08:36.29 | Shadowed | Not sure the best way to explain it but. If you are in lets say a guild raid and you queue for a battleground and get in, you're in two raids at once. One is the forced raid of the battleground and another is the original guild raid you were in before you entered the battlefield instance. Using any raid related functions returns info for the battleground's forced group, but if you use /party or /raid you can talk to your guild raid and the people in th |
| 08:37.00 | Shadowed | not sure if that makes sense, pretty bad at explaining stuff :p |
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| 08:42.47 | Shadowed | anyway! I must get some sleep, night. |
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| 08:50.24 | Thrae | I wonder how hard it would be for slouken to implement something like GetAPIFunction( functioname ), which always returns the reference to the original Blizzard function, even if it's been hooked. |
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| 08:59.26 | Mikk | You can implement it yourself |
| 08:59.46 | Mikk | !!!!!AddonName =) |
| 08:59.59 | Thrae | Haha. We know that doesn't always work ;) |
| 09:00.09 | Mikk | No =( |
| 09:00.20 | Kirov | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RealFunctions |
| 09:00.21 | Kirov | should work |
| 09:00.25 | Kirov | ;) |
| 09:00.50 | Mikk | Actually |
| 09:00.54 | Mikk | They could add it to framexml |
| 09:01.08 | Mikk | Just have the first file loop the global env and look for functions and put them in an array |
| 09:01.09 | Mikk | DOne |
| 09:01.24 | Mikk | Then again that wastes resources |
| 09:01.28 | Thrae | What happens to the old reference in a hooked function? If it's stored in a local, is it accessible by another file? |
| 09:01.30 | Mikk | GetAPIFunction() is prolly best =) |
| 09:01.39 | Mikk | Nope |
| 09:02.49 | Thrae | I just realized that GetAPIFunction() wouldn't work for me either. I want to insert my addon's hook before any other addon, without making people edit another addon's OptionalDeps or adding LoadWith to my addon. |
| 09:02.56 | Mikk | Just require everyone to use OLTRA to do their hooks :-) |
| 09:03.30 | Mikk | s/OLTRA/1lib:Rule(*)/ |
| 09:03.46 | Thrae | You lib? |
| 09:03.50 | Thrae | s/You/Your/ |
| 09:04.10 | Mikk | One Lib To Rule Them All </lastweekshumor> |
| 09:04.11 | Kirov | Hey, I can't mess up too |
| 09:04.15 | Kirov | s/can't/can/ |
| 09:04.38 | Mikk | Proposed as the alternate name of Ace2 =P |
| 09:05.22 | Thrae | AceHook is also nice, but when you're dealing with merciless yet popular tooltip mods like MobInfo-2 (which hooks OnShow for some reason) and MonkeyQuest (weird coding), it can get messy. |
| 09:09.15 | Thrae | Ooo, could functions be made into metadata tables which record hooks? |
| 09:10.21 | Mikk | Possibly, but it introduces ugliness |
| 09:10.39 | Mikk | Like doing type(functionName) not returning "function" |
| 09:10.54 | Mikk | Hm no it won't work |
| 09:11.21 | Mikk | You can't react to the table reference changing, only stuff inside it |
| 09:11.31 | Mikk | You COULD stick a metatable in _G but that's just plain evil |
| 09:11.33 | Mikk | And likely slow as hell |
| 09:12.37 | Mikk | Just fix the ugly addons? |
| 09:13.03 | Thrae | There can always be more and more ugly addons, though. |
| 09:13.05 | Mikk | Better for everyone involved |
| 09:13.30 | Mikk | Yeah but I don't see why the well-behaved ones need to be worked on lots and lots and lots to compensate for the ones that suck |
| 09:14.45 | Thrae | I can hack my own code easily, with something like MobInfo-2 I'd be much inclined to rewrite the damn thing. |
| 09:15.11 | Mikk | hehe |
| 09:15.17 | Kirov | MobInfo-2 always struck me as being particularly cobbled together |
| 09:15.55 | Thrae | Actually I've been tossing around the idea of writing my own MobInfo-2 mod to go along with TinyTip, except mine would work with a compressed database and store mob positions (allowing me to get rid of MetaMap's WoWKB) |
| 09:16.26 | Mikk | compressed? o.O |
| 09:16.28 | Kirov | hmm |
| 09:16.43 | Kirov | I have an LZW lib for wow |
| 09:17.06 | Mikk | That's going to backfire mercilessly |
| 09:17.11 | Mikk | At least with the current SV bugs |
| 09:17.14 | Thrae | Yeah, just simple string compression, maybe bitlib later on. The MobInfo-2 DB right now is just as bad as WoWKB, totally uncompressed. |
| 09:17.37 | Kirov | Mikk - worked pretty well in 1.10 |
| 09:17.39 | Kirov | but yeah |
| 09:17.46 | Kirov | Not sure I want to subject 1.11.2 to it |
| 09:17.47 | Mikk | 1.11 is teh sux for big SV content |
| 09:17.48 | Thrae | What do you mean? Plenty of mods have implemented decent compression algorithmns, like KC_Items. |
| 09:18.11 | Kirov | KC_Items doesn't really compress anything, does it? |
| 09:18.27 | Mikk | Depends on what you compress. Individual strings... sure. But if you do the thing that's going to get the most gain - rewrite everything to a single string representation and then compress that - it'll hurt. |
| 09:18.38 | Thrae | Yes, it uses a highly compressed DB, as it also stores item stats along with generated links. |
| 09:19.05 | Kirov | Thrae - that's not really along the same lines though. |
| 09:19.22 | Mikk | Then again, such a string wouldn't be scannable at all |
| 09:19.29 | Kirov | That can be done with gsubs, and maybe a little number -> ascii conversion |
| 09:19.43 | Kirov | er, number -> char conversion |
| 09:20.38 | Thrae | Kirov: You should take a look at KC_Item's SVDB sometime, it's very not human readable. Kaelten would better explain how his DB works, I'm probably misrepresenting it. |
| 09:21.11 | Kirov | Thrae - You should see my internal LLe db |
| 09:21.15 | Thrae | Woo 5am nets me "very not" |
| 09:21.24 | Kirov | Compresses all item stats down to a 26 character line |
| 09:21.49 | Kirov | including sell price, armor, etc |
| 09:22.12 | Thrae | How's the load time? |
| 09:22.49 | Kirov | For my internal version? A lot better than normal LootLink |
| 09:22.57 | Kirov | The problem comes in the LZW lib |
| 09:23.30 | Kirov | Bloats pretty fast |
| 09:23.42 | Kirov | And full-string searches end up really slow. |
| 09:25.03 | Mikk | create a hash for searching |
| 09:25.49 | Thrae | My ideas for compression sound silly compared to yours. |
| 09:26.50 | Kirov | Basically strings end up being about 3/4ths to half the size of the original |
| 09:26.56 | Thrae | I wish smart people would come together and make a compression lib focused on optimizing very large WoW SV databases. |
| 09:27.15 | Kirov | But since I hold on to the compressed data, and then cache the uncompressed data after I've searched it, it gets ugly |
| 09:27.31 | Mikk | Uses lots of ram you mean? |
| 09:27.35 | Kirov | Yeah |
| 09:28.13 | Kirov | Not to mention it's a bit hacky as it's still appending off of the original LootLink database format |
| 09:28.28 | Thrae | That would be the opposite of what I'm trying to do, reduce memory usage. |
| 09:28.33 | Kirov | Right |
| 09:28.47 | Mikk | Assume you work off of three-letter pairs |
| 09:28.51 | Kirov | I was trying to reduce load times and item searches / sorting |
| 09:28.51 | Mikk | err... tuples |
| 09:29.14 | Kirov | for the LZW stuff? |
| 09:29.20 | Mikk | And create a hash for in which items those tuples exist |
| 09:29.47 | Kirov | I didn't actually write teh LZW lib, a friend of mine wrote it and I ported it to lua |
| 09:30.04 | Mikk | I assume your table is 1 entry per item, yes? |
| 09:30.19 | Kirov | You've never looked at LootLink stuff. =) |
| 09:30.37 | Mikk | I've looked at the regular lootlink db |
| 09:30.47 | Kirov | My method would of eventually cram it all down to a single string, yes |
| 09:30.53 | Kirov | per entry |
| 09:30.59 | Mikk | Precisely |
| 09:31.06 | Kirov | similar to ItemSync |
| 09:31.23 | Kirov | But longer strings since I was still keeping the full tooltip text |
| 09:31.39 | Kirov | just compressed |
| 09:32.10 | Mikk | damnit i suck at large scale search algorithms |
| 09:32.35 | Mikk | Short version: I'm thinking there has to be some way for you to make a "lookup table" for a given search phrase |
| 09:32.58 | Mikk | Which means you can reduce the number of lines that you need to unpack by lots |
| 09:33.03 | Kirov | I started looking at keeping all the unique text in a database, but that ended up huge, so I started looking at alternate methods of seaching for unique text and querying Blizzard's own database from within WoW using SetHyperlink() hacks |
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| 09:33.36 | Kirov | Which ended up with me creating the huge ItemString page on wow wiki |
| 09:33.57 | Kirov | that's all generated from with-in wow, not reading their db files |
| 09:35.13 | Mikk | So you re-generate that table on load or something? |
| 09:36.04 | Kirov | I do for the mod I wrote to spit out all the data, but eventually, no |
| 09:36.30 | Kirov | When I need to look it up, I'd just reparse it and cache it |
| 09:37.10 | Kirov | I can just apply the enchant and secondary item bonuses to a hearthstone and parse the resulting tooltip to find out what each is. |
| 09:37.30 | Kirov | For the saved data, I then only need to save the remaining unique information of the base item. |
| 09:37.57 | Thrae | Ugh. I need a rest from coding for a little while. |
| 09:38.13 | Mikk | RL is -------> that way |
| 09:38.16 | Kirov | I've mostly abandond all that work for LLe |
| 09:38.52 | Thrae|Away | Coding IS my RL, at least I'm trained on it >.< |
| 09:39.00 | Mikk | oops =) |
| 09:40.04 | wereHamster | is it possible to download videos in AVI format from youtube? |
| 09:40.12 | Kirov | sorta |
| 09:41.01 | Kirov | You can get plugins that will let you download their format, and then there are converters back to avi |
| 09:41.26 | wereHamster | I'm feeling discriminated :( |
| 09:43.30 | Kirov | btw, anyone know what Texture:SetTexCoordModifiesRect does? |
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| 09:54.35 | Mikk | interesting |
| 09:54.36 | Mikk | can't say i do |
| 09:56.57 | Kirov | Well, sleep time for me |
| 09:57.33 | Kirov | I'll probably poke at it sometime too, it's not listed at all on Iriel's 1.11 list, but who ever added it to the wiki commented it as being added in 1.11 |
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| 11:56.39 | esp|Syn | which of the mods allows for you to put a bar around a target in the center of the screen? |
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| 12:14.49 | Mikk | esp|Syn: Bar around the target? |
| 12:15.28 | Mikk | ArcHUD puts circular hp/mana/etc bars in the center of the screen |
| 12:15.57 | Mikk | I'm not aware of any kind of mod that can put stuff around targets, or next to, or anything. The UI can't tell where mobs are on-screen. |
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| 12:19.49 | esp|Syn | i didnt mean literally |
| 12:19.57 | esp|Syn | i meant, like the mana/hp thing |
| 12:20.00 | esp|Syn | but buttons instead |
| 12:20.25 | Mikk | ah, action buttons? |
| 12:22.46 | esp|Syn | yea |
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| 12:54.33 | esp|Syn | discord site is almost dead |
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| 13:16.53 | Mikma | good :) |
| 13:18.12 | Corrodias | diiiiie |
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| 13:27.34 | Mery | man blizzard has many typos or unchanged names in their filenames to the world map data.... |
| 13:28.02 | esp|Syn | oo yay |
| 13:28.04 | esp|Syn | i crashed wow |
| 13:28.34 | Mikma | cool |
| 13:35.29 | Industrial | lo cairenn |
| 13:35.51 | Cairenn | hi |
| 13:36.59 | esp|Syn | and again :/ |
| 13:37.17 | esp|Syn | i think dabs is shit |
| 13:41.23 | esp|Syn | is fubar any good? |
| 13:43.07 | Cairenn | well, 893 people have it on their favorites list on WoWI. you decide |
| 13:43.07 | Kaelten | good morning everyone |
| 13:43.22 | Cairenn | morning yes. good we're unsure of |
| 13:43.23 | Corrodias | considering what, 6 million people play, now, 90% of them use UI mods, and 1% of those bother to keep a favorites list... |
| 13:44.24 | Mikk | esp|Syn: Umm. fubar and dab isn't exactly in the same category of addons? |
| 13:44.29 | Corrodias | (actually, no, it's probably much, much lower than 1%, but i'm just trying to illustrate how you need some context of how many favorite lists the "popular" mods are on) |
| 13:44.32 | Cairenn | not even close |
| 13:45.11 | Cairenn | and my point is that the only person that can decide whether a mod is "any good" or not is the person asking the question :p |
| 13:45.19 | Kaelten | Not to mention the number of people that can end up using a mod via different compliations that never even go to the addons page |
| 13:45.49 | Mikk | mm.. probably the majority |
| 13:46.58 | esp|Syn | i want something along the lines of http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7199/uirf9.jpg |
| 13:47.37 | Corrodias | widescreen whores! |
| 13:48.37 | Mikma | that's one horrible ui |
| 13:48.50 | esp|Syn | i liked it :( |
| 13:49.06 | Mikma | what about it? :) |
| 13:49.10 | zenzelezz | who cares what others think as long as you enjoy it esp? |
| 13:49.16 | zenzelezz | not like they're going to be watching your monitor |
| 13:49.18 | Corrodias | sigh... the only good options (that isn't already refurbished and has any sort of warranty for replacement upon failure) for widescreen monitors seem to be LCD ones. :( |
| 13:49.30 | esp|Syn | i dont know how to make something like that |
| 13:51.08 | Corrodias | with one hand on the mouse and the other in your pants |
| 13:52.41 | esp|Syn | .. |
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| 13:53.35 | Corrodias | i swear that's how AL does it |
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| 14:01.39 | Cairenn | esp|Syn: I'm pretty sure that's a downloadable set up, you can probably find it on the Discord site |
| 14:01.52 | esp|Syn | it is a downloadable one |
| 14:02.08 | esp|Syn | but i want somethng "like" it. cos i have alot of custom stuff. i just dont know how to do that kinda thing |
| 14:02.15 | Cairenn | ah |
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| 14:04.14 | Cairenn | can you not just add your custom stuff on top of that? |
| 14:05.38 | esp|Syn | Nope because that requires a stupidly high resolution |
| 14:05.43 | Cairenn | ah |
| 14:05.51 | esp|Syn | and i cant even read the chat :( |
| 14:07.02 | Corrodias | you know, that can be a bonus. |
| 14:07.18 | esp|Syn | lol |
| 14:07.18 | Cairenn | well, baring the graphics, it shouldn't be too hard to set up something *close* |
| 14:07.26 | Cairenn | heh, too true Corrodias |
| 14:07.26 | wereHamster | I'd like to create a castingbar that displays either the casttime or the global cooldown, depending on which is active. How can I detect when the player casts a spell without casttime that trigger the global cooldown? |
| 14:09.17 | Cairenn | find a set of unit bars you like, ditto hot bars, find something that'll move the minimap for you, toss FuBar, Bhaldie Bar, Titan Panel or Infobar across the top and off you go |
| 14:13.44 | esp|Syn | how do i split the chat panel up |
| 14:13.49 | esp|Syn | so i have chat on one side |
| 14:13.53 | Cairenn | turn off simple chat |
| 14:13.53 | esp|Syn | and the combat log on other |
| 14:14.10 | esp|Syn | ah oki |
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| 14:19.02 | Cairenn | for action bars, try CT or bongos if you don't like DAB. for unit frames, take a look at watchdog, perl or minigroup if you don't like DUF. |
| 14:19.49 | Hexarobi | werehamster, i was just reading about detecting instant cast spells the other day |
| 14:20.22 | Hexarobi | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Detect_Instant_Cast_Spells |
| 15:02.05 | wereHamster | does this make sense: if ( not this:IsVisible() ) thenthis:Hide();end ? |
| 15:03.16 | esp|Syn | so.. if not visible hide? |
| 15:10.19 | esp|Syn | gah |
| 15:10.37 | esp|Syn | all i wanted was to have a few buttons in a circle around the center of the screen |
| 15:10.45 | esp|Syn | and now ive fucked up my entire layout lol |
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| 15:12.39 | Cairenn | morning tem |
| 15:12.47 | Tem | morning Cair |
| 15:24.39 | cladhaire | Morning. |
| 15:24.56 | Cairenn | hey cladhaire |
| 15:26.37 | cladhaire | Hexarobi: Did you have questions about that, I wrote that tutorial |
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| 15:34.15 | Hexarobi | no, werehamster was asking |
| 15:34.41 | esp|Syn | if i lose power now |
| 15:34.44 | esp|Syn | ill be pissed off |
| 15:34.50 | esp|Syn | jurrasic park is on :( |
| 15:34.55 | Hexarobi | hehe |
| 15:35.03 | esp|Syn | damn thunderstorms |
| 15:35.20 | Hexarobi | jurassic park has backups upon backups |
| 15:35.23 | Hexarobi | nothing could ever go wrong |
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| 15:38.40 | wereHamster | esp|Syn, which channel is JP on? |
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| 17:27.17 | Cide | hmm, what's PTR's .toc? FrameXML.toc still reads 11100 |
| 17:27.46 | Cairenn | should be 11200 |
| 17:28.10 | Cide | ah, I must be stupid. thanks cair :) |
| 17:28.35 | Cairenn | np |
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| 17:35.45 | esp|Syn | damn thunderstorms |
| 17:36.23 | Mery | lol it cut your jp off? |
| 17:38.15 | esp|Syn | no actually :D |
| 17:38.17 | esp|Syn | only my net |
| 17:40.25 | Mery | well partly lucky :) |
| 17:41.57 | esp|Syn | aye |
| 17:41.59 | esp|Syn | AND |
| 17:42.24 | esp|Syn | that prehistoric park is on after |
| 17:42.33 | esp|Syn | AND |
| 17:42.38 | esp|Syn | twister is on tonite :D |
| 17:42.48 | esp|Syn | ooo the glory of disaster movies :D |
| 17:43.32 | Mery | if i remember correct no movie "worth watching" is on german television today |
| 17:44.08 | esp|Syn | this is the first film ive wanted to watch thats been on tv in about 4 years :/ |
| 17:46.42 | Rallion | There's a special on tornados on the history channel right now |
| 17:49.06 | Rallion | apparently there are people who think that opening windows during a tornado is a good idea |
| 17:49.19 | Rallion | to keep the low pressure from making your house explode. |
| 17:50.29 | Tain | I don't know, I think seeing a house explode would be neat. |
| 17:50.42 | Rallion | It would be neat |
| 17:50.55 | Rallion | but even if your average house is filled with water, it's not going to explode |
| 17:51.05 | Rallion | I don't think a tornado is gonna do it |
| 17:51.15 | Rallion | it'll blow it over, maybe, but not blow it up |
| 17:59.42 | esp|Syn | Yeah seeing a house explode would be cool |
| 17:59.48 | esp|Syn | unless.. your inside it of course |
| 18:01.01 | Tain | I want explody-house. |
| 18:02.33 | esp|Syn | offs |
| 18:03.01 | esp|Syn | why when i click on chat frame 1 in Dfm does my wow error and crash :( |
| 18:23.56 | esp|Syn | NOO |
| 18:24.03 | esp|Syn | CSI IS ON AT THE SAME TIME AS TWISER! |
| 18:24.14 | esp|Syn | god hates me :( |
| 18:25.45 | zenzelezz | stuff like CSI tends to have several re-runs |
| 18:39.37 | Shadowed | I announce i'm doing a rewrite of a mod and the first thing someone asks is am i using ace2. o.O |
| 18:42.25 | esp|Syn | i try my best to avoid making my mods dependant |
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| 18:59.51 | Mikk | esp|Syn: Ace2 is embeddable though |
| 19:00.18 | esp|Syn | how do you mean embeddable? |
| 19:00.28 | Mikk | put its files into your addon |
| 19:00.36 | Mikk | load them like any other file from your toc |
| 19:00.59 | esp|Syn | hrm |
| 19:01.08 | Mikk | it doesn't bloat RAM because if multiple copies are loaded, only the most recent one will remain when all is loaded |
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| 19:01.32 | Mikk | does increase the zip file size a little but ... bah =P |
| 19:02.16 | Shadowed | I try to get every byte of my zip files :p |
| 19:02.21 | Shadowed | thats why i zip them at least 10 times before releasing |
| 19:02.24 | Mikk | haha |
| 19:02.36 | Mikk | yeah and zip+rar+zoo+arj+zip again ftw! |
| 19:02.57 | Shadowed | If the user isn't willing to spend 10 minutes unzipping it, screw them |
| 19:03.58 | esp|Syn | lol |
| 19:04.02 | esp|Syn | i just use winrar |
| 19:04.07 | esp|Syn | more compression |
| 19:04.22 | Mikk | and files that 3 out of 4 users don't know how to uncompress |
| 19:04.31 | Shadowed | haha |
| 19:04.53 | esp|Syn | thats there problem tbh |
| 19:04.54 | Shadowed | I don't really see anything in Ace2 that I need to make it worth using anyway. :p |
| 19:05.01 | esp|Syn | takes 2 seconds of google to figure it out |
| 19:05.13 | Mikk | esp|Syn: And money |
| 19:05.16 | esp|Syn | o-0 |
| 19:05.24 | Mikk | winrar is not free |
| 19:05.25 | esp|Syn | why do people keep saying that |
| 19:05.28 | Shadowed | I'll find some sort of Linux only compressor that requires them to install a bunch of libaries and such just to use it. |
| 19:05.29 | esp|Syn | winrar is 100% free |
| 19:05.40 | esp|Syn | you only pay if you want to remove the nag screen |
| 19:06.10 | Shadowed | that doesn't count as 100% free :p |
| 19:06.38 | esp|Syn | meh |
| 19:06.41 | esp|Syn | still free |
| 19:06.48 | esp|Syn | winzip follows the same system |
| 19:06.50 | Mikk | no. winrar is not free |
| 19:06.53 | esp|Syn | or did last time i checked |
| 19:07.04 | Mikk | you're expected to buy it after the eval period has expired |
| 19:07.46 | esp|Syn | yes but if they actually wanted to restrict users from continuing use, they would disable it. |
| 19:08.03 | esp|Syn | thats simply to get companys who use it to pay, not the average user |
| 19:08.05 | Shadowed | But thats not 100% free |
| 19:08.18 | Mikk | doesn't change the fact that you're breaking the law |
| 19:08.26 | esp|Syn | oh please |
| 19:08.29 | Mikk | something which not everyone is willing to do |
| 19:08.37 | esp|Syn | Look at 90% of these interface mods |
| 19:08.43 | esp|Syn | use copyrighted images |
| 19:09.33 | zinor | hey ckknight |
| 19:09.34 | zinor | *prods* |
| 19:09.57 | Mikk | all i'm saying is that some people actually care about this stuff. if they don't want to use pirated software, and don't want to buy another archiver program..... |
| 19:10.17 | esp|Syn | its not pirated because you havnt done anything other than break the tos |
| 19:10.25 | esp|Syn | which people do all the time |
| 19:10.35 | esp|Syn | and if they dont want too. then they wont use my mod. simple |
| 19:10.59 | Mikk | I just use winrar myself and tell it to produce zips =) |
| 19:11.06 | esp|Syn | people seem to think i owe them something by making these mods :/ |
| 19:11.08 | Mikk | the winzip UI has always and will always suck >.< |
| 19:11.08 | zinor | what are you people talking about? |
| 19:11.19 | Mikk | zinor: zip vs rar for addon archies |
| 19:11.20 | zinor | winzips ui is fine but i find winrar quicker |
| 19:11.28 | zinor | as i right click -> zip most things |
| 19:11.34 | zinor | and winzip is an extra submenu |
| 19:11.35 | zinor | :P |
| 19:11.46 | Mikk | winzip handles folders badly =/ |
| 19:11.50 | Shadowed | I'd actually use the rar feature in WinRAR if I knew everyone would have it |
| 19:12.02 | zinor | no but |
| 19:12.06 | zinor | (21:10:40) (esp|Syn) and if they dont want too. then they wont use my mod. simple |
| 19:12.08 | zinor | whats that directed at? |
| 19:12.14 | zinor | i heard copyrighted images etc. |
| 19:12.19 | esp|Syn | na |
| 19:12.28 | esp|Syn | few people bitched about one of my addons |
| 19:12.33 | esp|Syn | cos it was .rar not .zup |
| 19:12.35 | esp|Syn | .zip* |
| 19:12.38 | zinor | ah |
| 19:12.41 | zinor | ya you should always use .zip |
| 19:12.45 | Mikk | that was directed at me saying that there's people out there that don't want to use pirated winrar copies, and don't want to pay for another archiver. |
| 19:12.48 | zinor | its a more widely used standard |
| 19:12.52 | zinor | and incorporated into windows xp |
| 19:12.58 | zinor | you dont have to pay for winrar |
| 19:12.59 | esp|Syn | well i like .rar |
| 19:13.01 | zinor | its shareware |
| 19:13.05 | Mikk | there we go again |
| 19:13.10 | Mikk | winrar has a 30 day eval period |
| 19:13.13 | esp|Syn | 40 |
| 19:13.15 | Mikk | after that you're expected to pay |
| 19:13.16 | Mikk | ok 40 |
| 19:13.18 | zinor | you can use it as long as you want, they just want you to buy at the end of eval period |
| 19:13.18 | esp|Syn | :P |
| 19:13.27 | zinor | no you're not expected, thats why it has a nag screen :) |
| 19:13.34 | Shadowed | I prefer rar too, but I'm not going to tell people to install software just to use a mod :p |
| 19:13.34 | zinor | otherwise it would just shut you out at 30 days |
| 19:13.37 | zinor | like "trials" normally do |
| 19:13.46 | Mikk | try that argument in a trial =P |
| 19:14.04 | esp|Syn | again.. i produced these mods for myself and people who have requested them |
| 19:14.26 | esp|Syn | i release them because people might want them. not because i want them to use them :/ |
| 19:14.48 | Mikk | aye, same. but i also try to actually make them easy to use for said people :P |
| 19:15.01 | Shadowed | Anyway, it's not like you're zipping a 50MB file that you want to be able to reduce as much as you can. The size reduction for a mod isn't a huge deal since you're only talking a 180-300 KB download. |
| 19:15.13 | Mikk | try 30 |
| 19:15.22 | Mikk | vs loading its web page which is 100+ =) |
| 19:15.24 | Shadowed | I just took the size of SSPVP which is fairly big :p |
| 19:15.36 | esp|Syn | aye but making a .rar is much faster for me |
| 19:15.38 | esp|Syn | as its one click |
| 19:15.48 | esp|Syn | force of habit |
| 19:15.48 | Shadowed | can set it to one click in winrar too! |
| 19:15.59 | esp|Syn | and im not guna re package it as .zip |
| 19:16.07 | Cairenn | we ask that authors use zip as that's the "standard" that most people have |
| 19:16.12 | esp|Syn | and re-upload just because 2 of the 1000 people complained |
| 19:16.55 | Shadowed | You can have 1000 happy people, and 5 people who hate you because you decide to do something. Those 5 people will speak out more then those 1000 will |
| 19:16.56 | Cairenn | *personally*, I don't really care |
| 19:16.58 | Mikk | esp|Syn: you DO know that you can set rar to produce zips by default, right? |
| 19:17.06 | esp|Syn | why would i want too? |
| 19:17.11 | Mikk | haha |
| 19:17.20 | esp|Syn | im hardly guna change how i do things |
| 19:17.24 | Mikk | for the same reason you put your mods up for download? =) |
| 19:17.27 | esp|Syn | for two people who i couldnt care less about |
| 19:17.41 | esp|Syn | i put them up because i thought someone might wana use them |
| 19:17.46 | esp|Syn | if they dont. then they wont |
| 19:17.59 | esp|Syn | i couldnt give a crap if 2 or 2000 people "hated" me |
| 19:18.37 | esp|Syn | its a mod.. on a game.. online. its not guna effect my life or anything :/ |
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| 19:22.39 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 19:22.52 | Cairenn | hi JoshBorke |
| 19:24.03 | Mikk | Ah. There we go. RAR license agreement: "If you do not agree with the terms of this license you must remove RAR/WinRAR files friom your storage devices and cease to use the product." |
| 19:25.19 | Mikk | One of the terms being "Anyone may use this software during a atest period of 40 days. Following this test period of 40 days or less, if you wish to continue to use RAR, you must register." (goes on to explain how register = buy...) |
| 19:25.41 | End | gah |
| 19:26.01 | End | I'm playing hl2ep1, and alyx starts making zombie noises when I had my back turned |
| 19:26.05 | End | freaked me out a bit :X |
| 19:27.22 | esp|Syn | http://www.snapfiles.com/Freeware/downloader/fwzip.html |
| 19:27.26 | esp|Syn | there you go |
| 19:27.30 | esp|Syn | a freeware .rar extractor |
| 19:27.34 | esp|Syn | 2 seconds it took me |
| 19:28.06 | esp|Syn | google is your friend |
| 19:28.27 | Shadowed | he's not argueing that one exists or not, he's argueing that using WinRAR is not allowed after the trail period. |
| 19:29.08 | esp|Syn | im not disagreeing with that fact |
| 19:29.20 | esp|Syn | im just saying they no one has to "pay" to use my mods |
| 19:29.31 | esp|Syn | if there not to lazy to put a little work in |
| 19:30.01 | Shadowed | So if I make you install Photoshop to use a mod that you really want to, you'll download and install photoshop to use it? :p |
| 19:30.10 | esp|Syn | No i wont use the mod |
| 19:30.35 | esp|Syn | But if i REALLY want to use it |
| 19:30.46 | esp|Syn | ill install photoshop, well actually i already have it installed |
| 19:30.48 | esp|Syn | so problem solved |
| 19:31.11 | esp|Syn | one thing i wont do is post comments tell you to remove the need for photoshop right now |
| 19:31.16 | Cairenn | and we are still sniping at each other about this ... why? |
| 19:31.31 | esp|Syn | Were not. were having an heated discussion |
| 19:31.57 | Shadowed | Because it's early and nothing better to do Cairenn! |
| 19:32.13 | esp|Syn | its not like these guys are the people who bitched on my comments page |
| 19:32.47 | Cairenn | just so long as we're enjoying ourselves ... it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye - then it's a sport |
| 19:33.12 | esp|Syn | i dunno abotu an eye but im about to lose the will to live.. |
| 19:33.13 | Shadowed | i'll save you some time Cairenn |
| 19:33.15 | Shadowed | ~sigh Men |
| 19:33.16 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Men!" |
| 19:33.35 | Cairenn | esp|Syn: =/ |
| 19:33.37 | esp|Syn | ive just managed to lost my interface config AGAIN |
| 19:33.43 | esp|Syn | ive been trying to setup a nice layout |
| 19:33.47 | esp|Syn | and keep losing it :( |
| 19:33.58 | Cairenn | so make frequent backups :p |
| 19:34.05 | esp|Syn | meh |
| 19:34.16 | esp|Syn | is discord still in production> |
| 19:34.35 | Cairenn | yes, the author is still active |
| 19:35.02 | esp|Syn | right i need to contact him then |
| 19:35.14 | Mikk | http://www.altools.net/ALTools/ALZip/Features/tabid/60/Default.aspx <- heh, interesting |
| 19:35.16 | esp|Syn | his dfm crashes wow all the time :( |
| 19:35.52 | Cairenn | http://www.discordmods.com/ |
| 19:36.27 | esp|Syn | yea his forum is dead :( |
| 19:37.01 | Cairenn | why do you say that? |
| 19:37.35 | Cairenn | they show up fine for me |
| 19:37.40 | esp|Syn | :/ |
| 19:37.58 | esp|Syn | "Table 'disco15_UI.list' doesn't exist at library.pl line 142" |
| 19:39.03 | zenzelezz | the forums load for me too |
| 19:39.37 | esp|Syn | hrm |
| 19:40.10 | esp|Syn | even the userinterfaces one? |
| 19:40.37 | Cairenn | ah, no |
| 19:41.06 | esp|Syn | see thats the one i want :( |
| 19:41.09 | Cairenn | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=656 |
| 19:41.36 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 19:41.36 | cladhaire | fun |
| 19:41.37 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:42.28 | esp|Syn | ahh righto lol |
| 19:42.47 | esp|Syn | as usual i miss it by a day lol |
| 19:44.02 | esp|Syn | :( whats with peoples hatred of gnomes |
| 19:44.42 | Mikk | Cairenn: Actually, how about pointing at that freeware extractor that esp|Syn dug up in the wowi mod installing faq? |
| 19:48.28 | Mikk | ? |
| 19:48.44 | esp|Syn | Society Against Cruelty To Gnomes! |
| 19:49.16 | esp|Syn | its about time the gnomes were allowed to stand tall! |
| 19:51.08 | esp|Syn | SEE |
| 19:51.13 | Mikk | Cairenn: ok that was a bad idea |
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| 19:51.20 | Mikk | That program is NOT easy to use |
| 19:51.26 | esp|Syn | Constant abuse of gnomes |
| 19:51.37 | zenzelezz | I was in a team with two dwarves, two gnomes in Scholomance earlier |
| 19:51.48 | zenzelezz | was nice, except I kept checking the minimap to see where they were |
| 19:52.17 | esp|Syn | btw http://www.7-zip.org/ |
| 19:52.23 | esp|Syn | ive used that in the past |
| 19:53.10 | wereHamster | did anyone here already kill Patchwerk? |
| 19:55.10 | wereHamster | I just did a short video of the last 3-4% - http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/zerg.mp4 just in case you'd like to see.. |
| 19:56.20 | JoshBorke | was it fun? |
| 19:56.20 | Cide | I've killed him |
| 19:56.36 | Cide | and no, he's a bitch |
| 19:57.18 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 19:57.40 | Cide | for horde, anyway |
| 19:57.48 | JoshBorke | you'll get BoK in BC :-D |
| 19:58.14 | zenzelezz | so in BC the main difference between horde and alliance will be Fear Ward? |
| 19:58.31 | JoshBorke | i believe it will be racials |
| 19:58.40 | Mikk | fear ward is a racial |
| 19:58.41 | zenzelezz | Fear Ward is racial |
| 19:58.50 | Mikk | and a damn powerful one |
| 19:59.09 | JoshBorke | yes, i agree :-) |
| 19:59.10 | zenzelezz | 10-minute duration buff that "absorbs" one fear |
| 19:59.14 | Thrae|Away | Fear Ward....is a racial! |
| 19:59.34 | Mikk | zenzelezz: hum? it's kinda recastable |
| 20:00.02 | zenzelezz | yes, but you have to recast it to absorb more than one, don't you? Or can multiple priests stack it on you? |
| 20:00.12 | Mikk | no, recast after fear |
| 20:00.29 | zenzelezz | thought so |
| 20:00.39 | JoshBorke | you can recast it every 30s |
| 20:00.46 | Mikk | which is enough for most raid bosses |
| 20:00.58 | Mikk | have two dorf priests and you can forget about the tank ever getting feared |
| 20:01.06 | JoshBorke | pretty much, yep |
| 20:01.17 | zenzelezz | that's what we do |
| 20:01.17 | Mikk | or in BC... tremor totem + 1 dorf priest >.< |
| 20:01.45 | zenzelezz | I'm not main tanking much yet, so I don't get Fear Ward that often :-| |
| 20:03.24 | Mikk | of course, the problem with dwarf priests is the first rule of dwarf priests: The dwarf priest dies. |
| 20:04.05 | zenzelezz | other than when things go very bad, that doesn't happen much to us... mostly just the odd rogue or DPS warrior who can't control his own aggro |
| 20:04.26 | Rallion | hey...my NE priest is goot, too...he gets...uh...starshards...(*cry*) |
| 20:04.47 | zenzelezz | I'm Human, my racials come in darn handy as a tank |
| 20:04.56 | zenzelezz | "Hey Ragnaros, we can talk it over!" (Diplomacy) |
| 20:05.02 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 20:05.02 | Rallion | lol |
| 20:05.21 | Rallion | I actually really like Perception |
| 20:05.29 | zenzelezz | that one can actually be useful |
| 20:05.43 | zenzelezz | I'd still trade it for the stun thingie orcs have though |
| 20:05.47 | Rallion | but that's because my only human is a rogue, and it can be fun as hell to use it in 1v1 Rogue-on-rogue PvP battles. |
| 20:06.10 | Rallion | They vanish, but I can still see them! |
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| 20:06.30 | Rallion | and then I vanish and ambush for 1000-ish damage and they die. |
| 20:07.33 | Rallion | that's the only racial I ever use, though |
| 20:07.44 | esp|Syn | Dont suppose anyone knows of a mod that allows me to "bend" action bars? |
| 20:07.59 | Rallion | Well, there's DAB with floaters |
| 20:08.12 | Rallion | but I don't know of any that'll do it with an actual BAR |
| 20:11.24 | esp|Syn | hrm |
| 20:11.31 | esp|Syn | floaters? |
| 20:12.34 | Rallion | yeah, single buttons that aren't a part of any bar |
| 20:12.39 | esp|Syn | ahh |
| 20:12.44 | Rallion | they don't anchor to each other or anything though |
| 20:12.52 | esp|Syn | well i really want them on one bar |
| 20:13.06 | esp|Syn | but i suppose if i find nothing i can do it that way |
| 20:13.24 | Rallion | Flexbar can do that, actually, but I don't even know if that's still in development |
| 20:14.59 | esp|Syn | ill take a look :) |
| 20:15.05 | esp|Syn | oh and twister is on itv 1 |
| 20:15.31 | JoshBorke | i use flexbar |
| 20:15.33 | JoshBorke | erm, visor |
| 20:15.36 | JoshBorke | used to use flexbar |
| 20:15.58 | Rallion | they changed it to Visor? I thought Visor was the name of something else, did they combine, or what? |
| 20:16.19 | JoshBorke | no, i just slipped and said flexbar when i really meant visor :D |
| 20:16.20 | Thrae | Visor is an Ace addon, made by a different person, and works differently. |
| 20:16.55 | JoshBorke | flexbar is more of a complete package than visor. i could never get used to the way visor handled events ,so i just made my own mod that showed/hid buttons whenever i wanted =D |
| 20:17.13 | Thrae | It's essentially Flexbar, but without bugs and a sensible GUI. The separate addon, VisorGUI, is decent but can't compare to Flexbar's GUI ;) |
| 20:17.27 | JoshBorke | i have more a problem with the events :-D |
| 20:17.49 | Thrae | Yeah, its scripting system is the reason I just hardcoded events into EasyVisor. |
| 20:20.36 | Rallion | lol last time I used these addons, they had no GUI |
| 20:20.48 | Rallion | and now I'm just too happy with Discord |
| 20:21.01 | Rallion | because I have 1.5gb of RAM and I can take it. |
| 20:21.06 | JoshBorke | power infusion is fun |
| 20:21.39 | Rallion | I am seeing in-game weather for the first time, right now. |
| 20:22.16 | Rallion | FINALLY. |
| 20:22.34 | Cairenn | ah ha! took me a couple, but found it ... you might like this one esp|Syn |
| 20:22.36 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4893-Selection_Ring.html |
| 20:23.11 | JoshBorke | ah, that was a cool mod |
| 20:24.36 | esp|Syn | Cairenn |
| 20:24.39 | esp|Syn | i love you |
| 20:25.01 | Cairenn | I didn't make it |
| 20:25.16 | Cairenn | save your love for the author |
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| 20:25.51 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 20:25.52 | esp|Syn | but you found it :D |
| 20:26.01 | esp|Syn | without you. i would have nothing <3 |
| 20:26.06 | Cairenn | was just a case of remembering where it was |
| 20:26.29 | Cairenn | anyway, you're welcome |
| 20:26.38 | Cairenn | hopefully it'll kinda do what you are looking for |
| 20:26.47 | Iriel | Out of context that seems like an awfully romantic statement: <esp|Syn> without you. i would have nothing <3 |
| 20:27.05 | Cairenn | hi Iriel :) |
| 20:27.06 | Iriel | I picture it being spoken in the rain on someone's doorstep |
| 20:27.26 | esp|Syn | well. iam a die hard romantic :D |
| 20:29.03 | Rallion | Romance...romance...is that anything like paintball? |
| 20:29.27 | Iriel | It does usually involve multiple people, so in a way it is. |
| 20:31.47 | esp|Syn | usually id argue with that |
| 20:31.50 | esp|Syn | but i erm.. |
| 20:31.53 | esp|Syn | ye anyway |
| 20:31.58 | esp|Syn | the sky its erm |
| 20:32.46 | Thrae | What's the texture path for the new raid icons? |
| 20:33.01 | Mery | look into unitpopup.lua |
| 20:33.11 | Thrae | Ah, excellent. |
| 20:33.49 | Rallion | sigh...it's time for me to choose the reward for the Rogue ST quest |
| 20:39.02 | Rallion | the mask is the best overall, but the other items have unique effects! |
| 20:39.50 | Rallion | except that I have no idea what the effects actually mean..."Increases your effective stealth level by 1" |
| 20:40.18 | Mikk | it's as if you're level 61 |
| 20:40.31 | Mikk | or you're 60 or your opponent is 59 |
| 20:40.43 | Mikk | s/or/and/2 |
| 20:40.52 | Mikk | ~botslap |
| 20:40.53 | purl | ACTION cowers away from mikk |
| 20:41.09 | Thrae | I think I'll camp out for Tidal Charm. |
| 20:41.32 | gnorlish | i think everyone reading that sentence understands without you typing a correction statement 50% as long as the original sentence |
| 20:41.39 | Thrae | Wasn't that nerfed recently? |
| 20:42.01 | Mikk | what, reading comprehension? |
| 20:42.03 | Mikk | yeah i believe it was |
| 20:42.10 | Rallion | oh, well that sucks. |
| 20:42.14 | Rallion | mask it is. |
| 20:42.16 | esp|Syn | "can i drive" "NO" "then would you!" |
| 20:42.31 | Thrae | Which was nerfed? Reading comprehension, or the Tidal Charm trinket? :D |
| 20:42.49 | Mikk | the former =P |
| 20:43.27 | Thrae | 3sec stun on 15 minute cooldown. Awesome. Druid Stunlock! |
| 20:43.29 | Mikk | as evidenced ;) |
| 20:44.05 | Thrae | Hehe. |
| 20:44.51 | Mikk | IRC is so much better than talking. You actually get those extra few seconds to think up the witty line you never had time to actually _say_ =) |
| 20:45.34 | Thrae | Hmmm, UnitPopup.lua uses "SetRaidTargetIcon", I wonder where that's declared...sounds like API? |
| 20:45.46 | Mikk | it is |
| 20:45.49 | Rallion | wait, no, I AM taking the boots! MATH FTW |
| 20:46.13 | Thrae | It's not on wowwiki |
| 20:46.25 | Mikk | erm oops |
| 20:46.30 | Mikk | SetRaidTarget() is the API one |
| 20:46.30 | Mery | well i meant the lines 57 to 64 |
| 20:46.44 | Mery | its texture path + texcoors |
| 20:46.48 | Mery | in a table |
| 20:46.51 | Mikk | SetRaidTargetIcon() is a 5 line framexml function iirc |
| 20:46.52 | Thrae | Ahhh now I see it |
| 20:47.02 | Mikk | It just toggles the icon off if the mob already has that exact same icon |
| 20:47.13 | Mikk | otherwise it does what setraidtarget does |
| 20:49.41 | Rallion | Yeah, there's lots of reasons to complain when you have a dual monitor setup. |
| 20:49.56 | Thrae | I was just wondering if I could do string.format("RaidTargetIconPath%d", GetRaidTargetIndex(unitId) ), I'll try it out and see. |
| 20:50.16 | Rallion | that was a stupid thing to say since I have a video card with two outputs and a second monitor sitting in the closet. |
| 20:50.30 | Mery | well the raidtarget icons are all in one texture |
| 20:52.26 | Thrae | Are there already proper textures defined for each index? |
| 20:54.42 | Mery | should be able to texture:SetTexture("Interface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-RaidTargetingIcons"); local temp = UnitPopupButtons["RAID_TARGET_"..GetRaidTargetIndex(unitId)]; texture:SetTexCoord(temp.tCoordLeft, temp.tCoordRight, temp.tCoordTop, temp.tCoordBottom); |
| 20:55.22 | Thrae | Hmm right, I could do it that way. |
| 20:55.46 | Mery | well or create 8 single textures as i don't think blizzard has them single :) |
| 20:57.48 | esp|Syn | erm |
| 20:59.58 | esp|Syn | how do make "floaters" in dab |
| 21:00.12 | esp|Syn | theres a title "floaters" but nothing below it |
| 21:06.38 | wereHamster | Cide, ping |
| 21:06.46 | wereHamster | hm.. not here |
| 21:06.46 | Cide | pong |
| 21:06.54 | wereHamster | I didn't see you -.- |
| 21:06.57 | Rallion | lemme check so I know exactly what to tell you to do... |
| 21:07.27 | Rallion | Go to Button Layout, on the bottom there's a line that says "Floaters", press the + button to create one |
| 21:07.50 | Rallion | ooh, you CAN anchor them to each other |
| 21:07.54 | Rallion | I was wrong on that |
| 21:08.02 | wereHamster | Cide, did you already kill Heaigan the Unclean? |
| 21:08.07 | Cide | no |
| 21:08.12 | Cide | have you? |
| 21:08.21 | wereHamster | and do you have any hints for the trashmobs there? |
| 21:08.26 | Cide | very, very fun encounter though |
| 21:08.29 | wereHamster | we can't get through :( |
| 21:08.33 | Cide | uh, just ae and tank the plague beasts away from the raid |
| 21:08.39 | esp|Syn | <3 |
| 21:08.47 | wereHamster | no safe spot where we could regen? |
| 21:08.55 | Cide | nope |
| 21:09.08 | wereHamster | and what with the worms? |
| 21:09.12 | Cide | your safe spots are basically a spot where you ae all the bats and regen while they're on respawn timers |
| 21:09.34 | Cide | worms? |
| 21:09.37 | Cide | oh, maggots |
| 21:09.42 | Cide | we just ae them with the rest |
| 21:09.45 | wereHamster | Mutated Grub |
| 21:09.52 | wereHamster | kk.. |
| 21:10.28 | Cide | that clear should be easy if you can kill noth ;) |
| 21:10.55 | Cide | note that you engage heigan the second you go around the last corner, no way to regen before |
| 21:18.41 | wereHamster | Cide, what's the best way through the trashmobs? along the walls? |
| 21:19.07 | Cide | we go along the right wall |
| 21:19.48 | wereHamster | and then around the corner and then you stop before the corner to the heigan room, right? |
| 21:22.23 | ckknight | ~threat level |
| 21:22.25 | purl | We're currently at threat level: periwinkle |
| 21:23.27 | Cide | yes |
| 21:26.58 | ckknight | anyone know a cheap place to register a domain name? |
| 21:28.15 | Cairenn | godaddy |
| 21:29.07 | Cairenn | costs me like $8/Canadian/year for the 2 I have |
| 21:29.39 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:29.40 | Rallion | do you just want the domain or do you need actual hosting, too? |
| 21:29.45 | ckknight | I too am a Canadian. |
| 21:29.47 | Rallion | hehe |
| 21:29.51 | ckknight | I do my own hosting |
| 21:29.56 | Rallion | listen to her then |
| 21:30.07 | Rallion | I don |
| 21:30.21 | Cairenn | ckknight: I know you are Canadian, I can just never remember if you're currently living state-side |
| 21:30.21 | Rallion | I don't have a domain of my own, but I have a lot of friends that do and they all use godaddy |
| 21:30.29 | ckknight | Hawaii |
| 21:30.32 | Rallion | ooh |
| 21:30.41 | Cairenn | that's what I thought, just wasn't positive |
| 21:30.53 | Rallion | I'm Canadian by ancestry. |
| 21:31.28 | esp|Syn | gah |
| 21:31.39 | ckknight | I am by citizenship and ancestry |
| 21:31.41 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:31.48 | ckknight | I think up to 4 generations |
| 21:31.57 | esp|Syn | i cant make the buttons only show when i have a target selected :( |
| 21:33.36 | esp|Syn | tell a lie |
| 21:33.38 | esp|Syn | fixed it :D |
| 21:37.28 | wereHamster | Cide, what's in the second room? |
| 21:37.51 | Cide | second room? |
| 21:38.14 | wereHamster | with the small works and the tentacles |
| 21:39.15 | Cide | you get ported in there |
| 21:39.24 | Cide | very easy to figure out if you actually engage him :P |
| 21:43.05 | wereHamster | first tru, 70% |
| 21:43.09 | wereHamster | s/tru/try/ |
| 21:43.15 | Cide | he doesn't have very much hitpoints, no |
| 21:43.50 | Mikk | Does anyone know if SendAddonMessage chokes on pipe codes? |
| 21:44.13 | Iriel | It's subject to the same rules as any other channel |
| 21:44.16 | Mikk | k |
| 21:50.06 | esp|Syn | bugger! |
| 21:50.20 | esp|Syn | i swear ive got an old version of discord |
| 21:50.27 | esp|Syn | it wont let me add more than one texture :/ |
| 21:52.15 | Mikk | Who was it that wanted to disable pet nameplates? |
| 21:52.37 | Mikk | There's a "PetNamePlates" setting in Config.wtf |
| 21:53.18 | Mikk | actually, it's in Interface Options -> Advanced Options -> Display also >.< |
| 21:54.20 | Mery | didn't he wanna disable the hp bars (v key) for pets? |
| 21:54.44 | ckknight | godaddy confuses me |
| 21:54.54 | ckknight | how do I make the address just point to an IP? |
| 21:55.37 | Mikk | the NS record? |
| 21:55.58 | Mikk | there's lots of registrars that don't want to add glue records these days >.< |
| 21:56.20 | Cairenn | ckknight: talk to Dolby, he's dealt with GoDaddy & hosting stuff |
| 21:56.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:56.36 | ckknight | this is for my brother's charity website thing |
| 21:56.40 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 21:58.45 | cladhaire | i've only dealt with godaddy updating the A record, cause i have dns |
| 21:59.01 | ckknight | pretty sure I'm only gonna need an A record |
| 21:59.09 | cladhaire | do you have a dns server? |
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| 22:01.20 | cladhaire | ckknight: If you aren't hosting WITH godaddy, you need a host with nameservers |
| 22:01.23 | cladhaire | then you just set those |
| 22:01.37 | Mikk | there's a bunch of free dns hosters out thee |
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| 22:01.41 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 22:01.44 | cladhaire | but you'll have to find one. |
| 22:01.52 | Mikk | they tend to have query rate limits, but for a charity site that shouldn't be a problem |
| 22:01.57 | Mikk | unless it happens to be red cross or something |
| 22:07.23 | Cairenn | btw guys, if anyone can help out here, I'm sure the folks would appreciate it: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5540 |
| 22:08.16 | Iriel | Cairenn : I've been working with them on that |
| 22:08.29 | Cairenn | Iriel: why does that not surprise me :) |
| 22:08.41 | Iriel | Cairenn : And provided a probable explanation (which slouken hasn't yet replied to) |
| 22:08.56 | Cairenn | lovely, thanks Iriel |
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| 22:09.11 | Cairenn | they'd just asked me to pop the thread up on WoWI hoping for assistance |
| 22:09.49 | Kirov | Mikk - still here? |
| 22:09.58 | Mikk | yep |
| 22:10.24 | Iriel | Cairenn : though that blog post already mentions my theory, though he only gives it 1 line of glory - so unfair. 8-0 |
| 22:10.25 | Kirov | Do any testing with that SetTexCoords thing? |
| 22:10.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:10.59 | Cairenn | different note entirely - anyone else getting "login failure" on the Blizz forums? I've been getting it all day |
| 22:11.03 | Mikk | Kirov: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetTexCoordModifiesRect |
| 22:11.17 | Mikk | Er |
| 22:11.22 | Iriel | Wrong function 8-) |
| 22:11.23 | Rallion | argh, one of my addons occasionally does something that only allows one standard pane to be open instead of two, but I can't repeat it at will and I'm not willing to pore through the code of 130-ish addons |
| 22:11.38 | Shadowed | Time to start disabling one addon at a time :p |
| 22:11.55 | Iriel | or is that NOT the wrong function,a nd you're trying to document it? |
| 22:12.08 | Kirov | Mikk - found it |
| 22:12.11 | Thrae | Kirov scared me there for a second, I just released a huge update that used SetTexCoord, and he said "SetTexCoords" ;) |
| 22:12.14 | Kirov | wow, lots of write up |
| 22:12.14 | Shadowed | Cairenn: I was able to login, just logged in, wait 30 seconds and refreshed. |
| 22:12.15 | Rallion | again, shadowed, useless because it only happens once in a while |
| 22:12.34 | Rallion | same with some addon preventing the esc menu from opening. |
| 22:12.39 | Shadowed | As in any panel can cause it to happen, or a specific one? |
| 22:12.55 | Mikk | Iriel: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoordModifiesRect was the one I wrote up. I just had a slight brainfart =) |
| 22:12.57 | Rallion | I have NO IDEA what causes it to happen |
| 22:13.04 | Thrae | Lexan used to have a bug where it stopped ESC from opening your menu. |
| 22:13.27 | Kirov | Mikk - did you try the 8 param SetTexCoord? |
| 22:13.33 | Mikk | Yes |
| 22:13.47 | Mikk | It works... erhm.. sort of the same |
| 22:14.12 | Mikk | Except if you give non-rectangular corners, it will of course still stretch |
| 22:14.17 | Kirov | heh |
| 22:14.18 | Iriel | Hm, if 'sort of the same' means what I think it means, it will be interesting. |
| 22:15.13 | Rallion | Nothing on this earth causes me more emotional ups and downs than working on crafting skills by making yellow or green items. |
| 22:15.23 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 22:16.51 | zenzelezz | I hate mobs that disarm... my disarm skill finally hit 297 though |
| 22:16.57 | zenzelezz | er, Unarmed |
| 22:17.20 | Mikk | gogo weapon chain? |
| 22:17.28 | zenzelezz | I prefer my Crusader |
| 22:17.46 | Mikk | those blue gloves from strath? |
| 22:18.14 | zenzelezz | I'd rather craft the Stronghold Gauntlets :) But it doesn't happen often enough to bother with that |
| 22:18.16 | Shadowed | stronghold gauntlets > all |
| 22:18.18 | zenzelezz | just annoying |
| 22:18.27 | Shadowed | Nothing like disarming HWL warriors or ashkandi warriors! |
| 22:18.32 | Rallion | That's exactly why I'm holding on to Claw of Celebras on my Rogue, it's a little worse than Lifeforce Dirk but it'll let me keep my unarmed high as I inch towards 60 |
| 22:18.32 | zenzelezz | "Disarm me, huh? *Shield Slam*" |
| 22:18.45 | Shadowed | "Your shield slam crits, some rogue for 20 damage!" |
| 22:18.52 | Rallion | but lol |
| 22:18.56 | Rallion | that's fun. |
| 22:18.57 | zenzelezz | that's shield bash |
| 22:19.05 | Shadowed | I know, making fun of shield slam :p |
| 22:19.08 | zenzelezz | my shield slam still crits for about 6-700 on many mobs |
| 22:19.49 | Kirov | 6 to 700, that's quite the range. heh |
| 22:20.21 | Rallion | wow, they REALLY made the morrowgrain quest easier |
| 22:20.25 | zenzelezz | I'm just too lazy to type two extra zeroes; and "6-700" matches how I say it in spoken Norwegian |
| 22:20.42 | Rallion | that's how most people would say it in english too |
| 22:20.42 | zenzelezz | six-seven hundred |
| 22:21.02 | Kirov | "six seven hundred" or "six to seven hundred" |
| 22:21.02 | Rallion | or six- to seven-hundred |
| 22:21.06 | Rallion | yeah |
| 22:21.16 | Kirov | just givin' you shit |
| 22:21.26 | zenzelezz | I know, and I'm parrying =D |
| 22:22.02 | zenzelezz | or maybe blocking is more appropriate |
| 22:22.08 | zenzelezz | parrying is all or nothing |
| 22:22.36 | Shadowed | dodge |
| 22:23.48 | zenzelezz | not really, that's also all or nothing |
| 22:24.51 | esp|Syn | wow. eating muffins with sweet sensative teeth isnt much fun :( |
| 22:25.38 | Cairenn | then don't eat them? duh |
| 22:25.54 | Cairenn | stupidity sympathy level = 0 |
| 22:26.12 | cladhaire | i"m 700 rep from exalted in AV |
| 22:26.15 | Shadowed | Cairenn is in a bad mood :p |
| 22:26.26 | gnorlish | cairenn is a strong winrar supporter apparently |
| 22:26.40 | Cairenn | pardon? |
| 22:26.41 | gnorlish | and holds a mean grudge! |
| 22:27.08 | gnorlish | been a while since i glanced at this chan, last time i looked Syn was getting it from people for raring his addon |
| 22:27.17 | esp|Syn | i dont love you anymore Cairenn :( |
| 22:27.32 | cladhaire | winrar requires a download |
| 22:27.35 | cladhaire | unzip doesn't =) |
| 22:27.37 | cladhaire | quite simple :P |
| 22:27.38 | Cairenn | *sobs brokenheartedly* no, really |
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| 22:28.13 | End | goddammit |
| 22:28.18 | End | need to remember where my hearth is |
| 22:28.21 | End | I keep changing it |
| 22:28.25 | Mikk | mouse over it? |
| 22:28.30 | Mikk | "Returns you to <foo>" |
| 22:28.47 | cladhaire | um... foo doesnt' have an inn Mikk |
| 22:28.48 | cladhaire | DUH |
| 22:29.02 | Shadowed | doesn't have < or > around it either |
| 22:29.04 | Cide | god, Mikk fails |
| 22:29.10 | End | well |
| 22:29.17 | End | I'm in kargath |
| 22:29.20 | Shadowed | agreed with Cide |
| 22:29.25 | End | forgot I changed my hearth to kargath from org |
| 22:29.33 | End | so I hearthed |
| 22:29.41 | End | and instead of going to org, I moved five feet |
| 22:29.50 | Mikk | meh. i'm not winning tonight it seems. might just actually get some coding done :-P |
| 22:30.06 | zenzelezz | Kargath... might as well be Kargank |
| 22:30.08 | cladhaire | if i get revered with Frostwolf, i'll code |
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| 22:38.42 | zenzelezz | makes it "languages that use a prefix character for variables" and I agree |
| 22:39.11 | Kirov | I've got a prefix character they could use for variables |
| 22:39.14 | Kirov | ( |
| 22:39.21 | Kirov | and end it with a ) |
| 22:39.31 | zenzelezz | bool (arf) = true; |
| 22:39.40 | Kirov | I was thinking more foo( bar ) |
| 22:39.59 | zenzelezz | would look too much like a function |
| 22:40.08 | Kirov | ! |
| 22:40.10 | Kirov | @#%! |
| 22:40.23 | Kirov | that's the point. >.< |
| 22:41.15 | Iriel | I think a language where all variables are stored in chests buried on an island wouldbe excellent, variable names are any valid set of instructions to find the chest |
| 22:41.35 | Iriel | So you could have (start at the dead tree, take three paces north, turn right, and 2 more paces, then dig) = 7 |
| 22:42.08 | zenzelezz | I thought that was what pointer arithmetic was |
| 22:44.16 | Rallion | It makes me sad that I laughed at that, zenzelezz. |
| 22:46.19 | Iriel | I guess that's true, just with pointers in 2d space, and landmarks and a compass. |
| 22:46.34 | JoshBorke | no hills? |
| 22:46.51 | Iriel | there are hills, but I was figuring that you'd only be able to busy one chest under a given spot |
| 22:47.03 | Iriel | so it's really the 2d surface mapped onto an elevation model |
| 22:47.09 | Iriel | it's still essentially 2d |
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| 22:48.13 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 22:51.27 | Kirov | wouldn't a singe spot with multiple chests be called an array? |
| 22:51.47 | Kirov | The chests would all just be maps to another chest |
| 22:52.00 | JoshBorke | no, the chest holds the maps |
| 22:52.01 | Kirov | But still chests |
| 22:52.08 | Kirov | well, right |
| 22:52.19 | JoshBorke | so there'd only be one chest |
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| 22:52.24 | JoshBorke | right? |
| 22:53.29 | Kirov | left. |
| 22:54.10 | Kirov | remark |
| 22:54.31 | JoshBorke | no, your other left |
| 22:59.09 | Rallion | this is the best conversation I've seen all week. |
| 23:12.42 | Iriel | I've updated http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoordModifiesRect |
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| 23:19.04 | esp|Syn | hrm |
| 23:19.20 | esp|Syn | lots of login servers down |
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| 23:39.05 | Kirov | Cide - how do you deal with CTRA version broadcasts in 1.12? Just send the request when you join a raid imediately? |
| 23:39.24 | Cide | um, not sure! |
| 23:39.39 | Cide | didn't think about that actually, but that's probably what I'll do |
| 23:39.42 | Kirov | hehe |
| 23:40.02 | Kirov | Right now you've got the wait 10 seconds, then wait every 5 if you're still not in the ctra channel |
| 23:40.25 | Kirov | I'm assuming for 1.12 the data channels are joined as soon as you join the raid, just like the normal /raid channels |
| 23:41.01 | Cide | yeah, hopefully |
| 23:41.21 | Cide | only problem I'm seeing is the distinction between RAID and BATTLEGROUND |
| 23:42.16 | Kirov | Isn't there an "ENTER_BATTLEGROUNDS" type event? |
| 23:42.30 | Cide | not sure |
| 23:45.28 | JoshBorke | i hate lvl'ing =( |
