| 00:11.32 | ckknight | back |
| 00:13.01 | Mikk | GIVE ME WINDOWS DEBUG OUTPUT BACK! |
| 00:13.17 | ckknight | you don't deserve it! |
| 00:13.27 | Mikk | My AddOn is hardlocking WoW on load =( |
| 00:13.51 | kergoth | ow |
| 00:14.13 | Kirov | hmm |
| 00:14.13 | Mikk | And it doesn't happen in WoWBench >.< |
| 00:14.17 | Kirov | that's probably bad |
| 00:14.27 | Mikma | Mikk: i had an interesting issue with /tiny <tab> lockup some time ago |
| 00:14.56 | stryder_30 | Okay, I am using "local hour, minute = GetGameTime();" to get the game time for minutes and hours, can someone tell me or show me an example of how I would go about getting seconds as well? |
| 00:15.13 | Mikk | stryder_30: you can't during the first minute of play |
| 00:15.23 | Mikk | you need to detect the first minute change and start your own timer from there |
| 00:16.03 | Kirov | GetGameTime() is server time? |
| 00:16.07 | Mikk | yes |
| 00:16.13 | Kirov | hmm |
| 00:16.25 | Mikk | it's also a bloody nuisance to figure out which day it is >.< |
| 00:16.29 | stryder_30 | hmm... okay, so basiclly wait for a time change then start counting? |
| 00:16.39 | Kirov | I just use time() |
| 00:17.10 | Mikk | aye. i recommend doing a GetTime() each time you see the minute change |
| 00:17.31 | esp|Syn | "I paid for the .zip trash and I am not paying again. .zip is the global universal archiever used by over 90% of those who use such utilities. No .zip file, no download, keep your ui." |
| 00:17.31 | Mikk | Kirov: And if the server is EST and the player is in Oz? |
| 00:17.40 | Kirov | Mikk - fuck em? |
| 00:17.56 | Kirov | (depends on the intent of the timer) |
| 00:17.58 | esp|Syn | is it me.. or is that some assumtion that i care if he downloads it :/ |
| 00:18.28 | Mikk | hehe |
| 00:18.31 | Kirov | You using .rar? |
| 00:18.34 | esp|Syn | yea |
| 00:18.37 | Kirov | yeah, don't |
| 00:18.41 | esp|Syn | why not? |
| 00:18.42 | Kirov | people get unhapp with rar |
| 00:18.43 | esp|Syn | its better |
| 00:18.44 | esp|Syn | faster |
| 00:18.46 | esp|Syn | cleaner |
| 00:18.47 | Kirov | Yes, it is. |
| 00:18.54 | esp|Syn | i dont really care |
| 00:18.57 | Mikk | there's sooooo many people out there that just don't bloody know what to do with a rar file |
| 00:19.00 | esp|Syn | 210 people are fine with .rar |
| 00:19.00 | Kirov | And like that poster noted, most people have no idea what it is. |
| 00:19.05 | Mikk | just generate your zips from winrar =) |
| 00:19.05 | esp|Syn | so that 1 person can do without my mod |
| 00:19.10 | Kirov | might as well release it in .tz |
| 00:19.20 | stryder_30 | lol |
| 00:19.22 | esp|Syn | if they had winrar |
| 00:19.25 | esp|Syn | they could open .tz |
| 00:19.31 | Mikk | winzip can too |
| 00:19.35 | Mikk | gogo .tz =) |
| 00:20.40 | Mikk | All interop problems miraculously go away |
| 00:20.53 | Mikk | Or perhaps .arj |
| 00:21.01 | Kirov | back to the matter at hand, stryder - what are you using the time for? |
| 00:23.25 | Mikma | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9071775 |
| 00:24.26 | AnduinLothar | mmm, good way to elimitate uneducated users mikk |
| 00:25.30 | AnduinLothar | "If you don't know what a .tz is this mod is too complicated for you" |
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| 00:26.37 | Kirov | "if you do know what .tz is, then it still might be too much for you handle, but you're welcome to try" |
| 00:27.57 | AnduinLothar | well i figure if they dont know what tz is and they look it up, then at least they've learned how to look things up |
| 00:28.11 | Kirov | al - since you've attempted crazy things with the SavedVariables: entry, can you define a table in a table? |
| 00:28.23 | AnduinLothar | sure, why not |
| 00:28.36 | Mikk | Kirov: of course |
| 00:28.45 | Kirov | ## SavedVariables: MyMod.SavedStuff |
| 00:28.49 | Mikk | oh |
| 00:28.49 | Mikk | like that |
| 00:28.53 | Krishnak | is there a way to reload a addon from inside wow, when you update the scrips? |
| 00:29.03 | Kirov | Krishnak - /console reloadui |
| 00:29.07 | esp|Syn | /console reloadui |
| 00:29.11 | esp|Syn | git |
| 00:29.16 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.24 | Krishnak | this loads even new content of the script? |
| 00:29.25 | cladhaire | ./reload |
| 00:29.32 | Krishnak | if I changed the files? |
| 00:29.38 | esp|Syn | Krishnak will load anything aslong as you havnt changed the .toc |
| 00:29.40 | Mikk | Krishnak: yes |
| 00:29.44 | AnduinLothar | as long as you dotn add a new file, yes |
| 00:29.45 | Kirov | Krishnak - If you change an already existing file, other than the .toc file, yes. |
| 00:30.00 | Krishnak | good, thx |
| 00:30.19 | esp|Syn | can anyone tell me how i can hax my char and make it lvl 60 ? |
| 00:30.42 | Kirov | open up a dos prompt, type format c: |
| 00:30.51 | AnduinLothar | so... Anyone here use Wardrobe-AL that wants to try some new changes to auto-swapping or are you all outfitter/itemrack/acewardrobe peeps |
| 00:31.34 | esp|Syn | i was thinking something like if ( not life and Hours_online == 24 ) then Grindftw = 1 |
| 00:31.39 | AnduinLothar | I'm attempting to make swapping for mounting and plaguelands smarter than the traditional even swapping |
| 00:31.48 | AnduinLothar | event* |
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| 00:32.11 | Kirov | how? |
| 00:32.20 | AnduinLothar | so like, it doesn't swap plaguelands while mounted, but queues it for after you dismount |
| 00:32.22 | Kirov | and what's the plaguelands swapping for? |
| 00:32.40 | Kirov | dawn trinket? |
| 00:32.44 | esp|Syn | i thought plaguelands was a place :/ |
| 00:32.50 | AnduinLothar | ya and some people have +undead gear |
| 00:33.40 | kergoth | anyone know of an in game notepad that can hold item links? |
| 00:33.46 | kergoth | i want to jot down what gear i want from where :P |
| 00:34.00 | esp|Syn | no but thats a nice idea |
| 00:34.03 | AnduinLothar | Notepad in Cosmos i believe added that feature |
| 00:34.19 | AnduinLothar | or someone tried, not sure if it was successful |
| 00:34.25 | AnduinLothar | since i dont use it myself |
| 00:34.29 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:34.39 | Kirov | Tinypad doesn't :( |
| 00:35.28 | Kirov | I don't understand hyperlinks well enough to try myself |
| 00:35.30 | AnduinLothar | so I've got it so that you can enter a plaguezone mounted or unmounted and it will swap correctly and then swap back to the items you were using that you swapped out when entering. and if you were mounted it inherits the items you had on before you mounted, unless you're mounted when you exit |
| 00:36.03 | Kirov | *blink* |
| 00:36.24 | AnduinLothar | It's fairly intuitive i think |
| 00:36.49 | AnduinLothar | might have problems if you switch gear manually while in plaguelands, i'll have to test.. |
| 00:36.50 | esp|Syn | kergoth keep looking. and ill look into adapting one |
| 00:37.00 | Kirov | but can it handle if you cross from plagueland to plagueland then back out? |
| 00:37.09 | AnduinLothar | yup |
| 00:37.37 | Mikk | Interesting... So, I'm trying to pop open a dropdown menu, where each command's position is dependent on the next ( SetPoint("TOPLEFT", myprevrow, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5) ) |
| 00:37.38 | Corrodias | so you basically have stored "non-plaguelands non-mounted", "plaguelands non-mounted", and "mounted" outfits? |
| 00:37.47 | Mikk | If I display 20 buttons.... it takes ~5 seconds to load |
| 00:37.47 | AnduinLothar | and if you dismount in combat it'll swap when you're out of combat |
| 00:37.55 | Mikk | If I display 30 buttons.... it takes .... too long to wait |
| 00:38.47 | AnduinLothar | actaully, no, it only stores 2 outfits, but they inherit from each other when they queue |
| 00:39.29 | Kirov | Mikk - each button in the dropdown menu you mena? |
| 00:39.35 | Mikk | yes |
| 00:39.48 | Mikk | Actually.. not "Open" |
| 00:39.53 | Mikk | I'm CreateFrame()ing them |
| 00:40.17 | Mikk | Creating 20 buttons x 3 (max 3 submenues) = 5 seconds |
| 00:40.29 | Mikk | Scary o.O |
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| 00:40.32 | Kirov | next seems bad |
| 00:40.56 | Mikk | ? |
| 00:41.00 | Mikk | err |
| 00:41.03 | Mikk | dependent on the previous |
| 00:41.18 | Mikk | The SetPoint() example is correct =) |
| 00:41.59 | Kirov | I just created my first mod to use CreateFrame ... so, not sure |
| 00:42.07 | Kirov | And I'd have to see more of your code to make sense of it |
| 00:42.18 | Mikk | HAH you're not gonna make sense of this one =) |
| 00:42.23 | Mikk | I'm writing an in-game UI editor =P |
| 00:42.41 | Mikk | Right now it's designing its own dropdown menus =P |
| 00:43.30 | Mikk | Looks like it really really hates having this many frames with positions dependent on eachother though |
| 00:43.51 | Kirov | Shouldn't |
| 00:44.15 | Kirov | I've tested my mod with up to 60 subframes all chained to eachother |
| 00:44.53 | Mikk | Tadaa. Executing time: Faster than I could see. |
| 00:45.09 | Mikk | Put SetPoint() calls back in and ... |
| 00:45.22 | Mikk | 5 second |
| 00:45.24 | Mikk | s |
| 00:45.28 | Mikk | actually more like 10 |
| 00:46.04 | Mikk | Could be related to the fact that I'm binding TOPLEFT to BOTTOMLEFT and then TOPRIGHT to BOTTOMRIGHT |
| 00:46.10 | Mikk | Which is a bit redundant |
| 00:46.56 | Mikk | Hm no... changing the latter to RIGHT to RIGHT didn't help |
| 00:47.06 | Kirov | hmm |
| 00:47.27 | Kirov | wow |
| 00:47.34 | AnduinLothar | uh ho.. i made it too smart |
| 00:47.46 | Mikk | Removing the SetPoint("RIGHT"...) completely worked though |
| 00:47.52 | Mikk | Of course, now the button has the wrong width |
| 00:47.56 | Kirov | Mikk - before this last patch I tried with 60 frames ... no problems. |
| 00:48.05 | Kirov | I just tried 60 again and my computer is locked up |
| 00:48.07 | AnduinLothar | it wont let me swap out of plangueland gear while in the plaguelands.. it just puts it right back on :) |
| 00:48.29 | Mikk | Interesting. They broke something then. |
| 00:49.23 | Mikk | Sounds very exponential also, because I'm doing this with sets of 9 already with no discernible lag. |
| 00:49.40 | Kirov | I guess I should cap my frames to 10 again |
| 00:50.37 | AnduinLothar | O.o if you swap the Seal of the dawl with your other trinket it removes the buff |
| 00:50.42 | AnduinLothar | Dawn* |
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| 00:51.23 | Kirov | If you FD with seal of the dawn it sometimes removes the buff >.< |
| 00:54.04 | esp|Syn | where is the frame information for book strored? |
| 00:54.10 | kergoth | anyone know if the blizzard xp gain display in the middle of the screen can be disabled/hidden? |
| 00:54.35 | Kirov | hmm |
| 00:54.48 | Kirov | Who was looking in to that last night? |
| 00:55.35 | esp|Syn | where is the frame information for book strored? |
| 00:55.47 | esp|Syn | oops sorry for repeat :/ |
| 00:55.52 | Kirov | book? |
| 00:56.02 | esp|Syn | You know ingame books |
| 00:56.31 | AnduinLothar | hmm, perhaps when swapping outfit manually i should merge it onto the unplague outfit.. |
| 00:56.35 | Kirov | not sure, but this mod would know http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/Bookworm-0.12-11100.zip |
| 00:57.34 | AnduinLothar | this is more and more ludicrisly complicated everytime I think about it |
| 00:57.53 | Mikk | kergoth: probably |
| 00:58.20 | Mikk | just search in framexml for the xp gained event |
| 00:58.23 | Mikk | whatever its name is |
| 00:58.46 | kergoth | hmm good idea |
| 00:59.04 | kergoth | Kirov: mikord was looking for it, since he added xp gain as an option in mikscrollingbattletext's notifications |
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| 01:04.08 | Mikk | Yep, I just checked up on it. The time it takes to do CreateFrame() + 2 x SetPoint() with relative positioning is severely exponential |
| 01:04.20 | Mikk | 19: 0.34s, 20:0.65s, 21:1.34s, 22:2.65s |
| 01:04.44 | Kirov | hmm |
| 01:09.16 | Mikk | But if I do just 1 SetPoint and then SetWidth and SetHeight, it's instant |
| 01:09.26 | Mikk | But I don't want to do SetWidth.... grmbl. |
| 01:11.15 | Thrae|Away | Mikk: Is the time taken because of the actual C SetPoint function, or the time it takes to FIND the SetPoint function to call? |
| 01:11.15 | Kirov | Did yo make a nicely formatted example mod? |
| 01:11.30 | Mikk | o yes |
| 01:11.33 | Tonsofun|Serenit | Hi everyone, is there anywhere I might look to see if someone is already developing a particular mod, so that I can join that dev team rather than starting from scratch on my own? |
| 01:11.40 | Kirov | I wonder if it's an issue with CreateFrame only |
| 01:11.42 | Thrae|Away | Mikk: Meaning, will your test case speed up by referencing something like local SetPoint = UIParent.SetPoint at top? |
| 01:11.56 | Mikk | Thrae|Away: Hmm.. I can't see the lookup causing more than a linear increase |
| 01:12.12 | Mikk | Especially since I just replaced it with a SetWidth and a loop of 20 became too quick for GetTime() to increase |
| 01:12.18 | Mikk | Which is the same lookup time |
| 01:12.35 | Kirov | exponential seems like SetPoint() is causing some sort of recursive look up each time. |
| 01:12.45 | Thrae|Away | Mikk: It's worth a shot. Maybe the SetPoint lookup is different. |
| 01:12.58 | Mikk | I _seriously_ doubt it |
| 01:12.59 | Mikk | But ok |
| 01:13.38 | Cairenn | Tonsofun|Serenit: if you tell us what it is you have in mind, I'm sure there will be someone in channel that will know if something similar already exists or not |
| 01:14.11 | Mikk | Thrae|Away: Ok, I tried it. The speedup was ... 0 |
| 01:14.30 | Thrae|Away | OK, OK. |
| 01:15.54 | Thrae|Away | Are you calling Frame:Show() before Frame:SetPoint in your test? |
| 01:16.05 | Mikk | CreateFrame()ed frames are shown by default |
| 01:16.06 | Mikk | But no |
| 01:16.27 | Thrae|Away | Ah right, they are. |
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| 01:17.08 | Kirov | This channel is really balooning |
| 01:17.40 | Thrae|Away | What happens if you hide it? It might be doing something expensive related to drawing and/or buffering. |
| 01:17.45 | Kirov | And yet, it seems to have gotten quieter, heh |
| 01:19.33 | Mikk | Thrae|Away: Doesn't help |
| 01:19.47 | Mikk | I'm thinking it has to do with the fact that no OnUpdate has happened yet |
| 01:20.00 | Mikk | So the frames don't really have any height/width yet |
| 01:20.13 | Mikk | Wouldn't surprise me the least if it was quick if I anchored topleft to topleft |
| 01:20.15 | Thrae|Away | Even if you manually set the height and width? |
| 01:20.44 | Mikk | Thrae|Away: I tried doing that also but it didn't help |
| 01:20.59 | Thrae|Away | Wait, I thought bottomleft was 0,0. That's true for the screen. |
| 01:21.05 | Mikk | It is |
| 01:21.29 | Mikk | 0,0 relative to the bottomleft corner of the widget |
| 01:21.36 | Mikk | Where are you getting? |
| 01:22.25 | Thrae|Away | Ah, you just confused me when you said Topleft,Topleft would be faster. I would think Bottomleft, Bottomleft would be the fast one. |
| 01:22.53 | Mikk | i think the only important thing would be setting and reading the same one |
| 01:23.01 | Thrae|Away | Ahhhh, gotcha. |
| 01:23.07 | Mikk | http://pastebin.ca/89264 |
| 01:24.40 | Mikk | Nah. That didn't help |
| 01:25.03 | Mikk | It just hates having >1 point set via relative positioning, regardless of how I'm setting it |
| 01:28.21 | Mikk | Hmmm.. maybe if I SetPoint("RIGHT") according to the first item |
| 01:29.39 | Mikk | Yep |
| 01:29.40 | Mikk | That works |
| 01:29.42 | Mikk | Zero delay |
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| 01:32.05 | Legorol | does anyone else have the Crown of the Fire Festival, the quest reward from the midsummer seasonal event? |
| 01:32.16 | Legorol | mine shows up as a red ? in the inventory, and when i equip it, nothing shows on my head |
| 01:32.22 | Legorol | in the 3D world |
| 01:32.30 | Legorol | seems to me like the item got nuked |
| 01:32.34 | Legorol | (and yes, i did delete WDB) |
| 01:33.01 | gnorlish | the item got nuked |
| 01:34.37 | kaso| | I vendored mine |
| 01:34.39 | kaso| | 1c ftw! |
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| 01:40.26 | Krishnak | puh, this interface api is really intersting, still I start to get a headache *g* |
| 01:40.47 | Mikk | Write an API emulator. It helps you understand how it works =) |
| 01:41.53 | Krishnak | this would gave me even more pain I guess ;) |
| 01:42.46 | Krishnak | is there somehow a good site to the chatsystem? |
| 01:42.54 | Krishnak | somewhere I mean |
| 01:43.12 | Kirov | what kind of stuff? |
| 01:43.17 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage and http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 01:43.27 | Kirov | The chatsystem is an exceptionally painful one to deal with btw |
| 01:43.35 | Mikk | and http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API) |
| 01:43.36 | Krishnak | basic stuff explains how the whole system works |
| 01:43.41 | Kirov | Most other things are relatively pain free |
| 01:43.52 | Krishnak | oh, great for me ;) |
| 01:44.27 | Krishnak | and all I want to write is a little chat addon, must be my lucky day I guess ;) |
| 01:44.43 | Kirov | what kind of chat addon? |
| 01:46.16 | Krishnak | surpress the client to send emotes that target a player, have a check with that player, and only actually do that emote if the player accepts |
| 01:46.41 | Krishnak | kinda an anti poweremotething |
| 01:46.47 | Kirov | uh |
| 01:46.52 | Mikk | sounds RPish |
| 01:47.08 | Krishnak | though I am in no hurry, and yes its all about rp |
| 01:47.20 | Kirov | sounds like replacing an emote with a confirm box and an emote |
| 01:47.34 | Krishnak | kinda |
| 01:47.56 | Kirov | What's the poitn? |
| 01:48.11 | Kirov | (serious question, not dogging on rp) |
| 01:49.35 | Mikk | Sounds fairly straightforward though. Hook the function that handles emotes and send a query via whisper that gets processed by the other end and a response is passed back |
| 01:49.36 | Krishnak | nothing big, it would be just a easy system to check actions, poweremotes are annoying |
| 01:50.07 | Mikk | Sounds like the problem would be getting annoying people to use your addon though =) |
| 01:50.26 | Krishnak | but writing each time "me tries to bla bla" and waiting for your rp partner to write his own emote reaction that accept or decline your action makes rp slow and non fluid |
| 01:50.52 | kergoth | anyone have the bliz interface bits (framexml) from 1.11 online somewhere? the blizzard extractor doesnt seem to like running in wine in linux |
| 01:51.05 | Mikk | Krishnak: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_chat_frames_to_modify_or_suppress_messages |
| 01:51.10 | Krishnak | well, there is flagrps, used alot, adding stuff like this, if its working should be not to hard |
| 01:51.42 | Mikk | kergoth: http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 01:51.44 | Krishnak | yeah I read that site, still not enough understanding of the scripting to really understand whats explained there |
| 01:51.48 | Kirov | what mikk said |
| 01:52.08 | Mikk | Krishnak: then you're deep in manure, to be quite frank =) |
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| 01:52.35 | Krishnak | but well, as I just started a few hours ago *g* so no big deal |
| 01:53.10 | kergoth | Mikk: thanks |
| 01:53.10 | Krishnak | as I said, I have time to learn and I am in no hurry at all *g* |
| 01:53.41 | Kirov | I'm not sure I understand rp enough to know why you'd want this |
| 01:53.55 | Krishnak | more speed |
| 01:54.05 | Kirov | Isn't the point of rp to be slow? |
| 01:54.28 | Kirov | Certainly all the rpers I've played with have made doing anything excruciatingly slow |
| 01:54.40 | Krishnak | nah, you want to interact with the other players, and you want it to do fluid and not to wait and wait each time your charakter does something |
| 01:55.06 | Kirov | Why are you waiting? |
| 01:55.08 | Krishnak | think of a movie when the main char waits after each action a few moments if noone else does something that would not fit |
| 01:55.16 | Krishnak | easy example |
| 01:55.57 | Krishnak | so I have to wait for your "dies" emote |
| 01:56.16 | Krishnak | before I can start to get loot from your dead body ;) |
| 01:56.21 | Mikk | Can I speak to my grandmother? |
| 01:57.02 | Krishnak | and it would be even a bad emote to just use /me kills |
| 01:57.32 | Krishnak | cause it would leave no other options and no chance to react, like dodge, parry, run away, whatever |
| 01:57.56 | Krishnak | so better use of emote would be ... /me tries to kill Kirov |
| 01:58.05 | Krishnak | to leave space to actually play |
| 01:58.09 | Mikk | purl, lart Krishnak |
| 01:58.40 | Mikk | Pfff, serious role players never use game mechanics =P |
| 01:58.48 | Krishnak | most of them at least |
| 01:59.28 | Kirov | Ok, I guess the other question is, the other person still needs to send back a response, no? |
| 01:59.33 | Krishnak | I like actually game meachnics, but key point about us rplers is, everyone likes to play different, and once to try to force someone on your playstlye things get fast ugly ^-^ |
| 02:00.49 | Krishnak | yeah, basicly I have to hook to msg, send it on a channcel for the addon, catch the msg, pop up a accept / decline window on the other users interface, and than either delete the emote at all, or send it than really to the server |
| 02:01.12 | Mikk | nah you don't need a specific channel |
| 02:01.15 | Mikk | just whisper it |
| 02:01.20 | Kirov | yeah |
| 02:01.33 | Kirov | though, if the other person doesn't have the mod, they might get confused |
| 02:01.42 | Krishnak | well, but I have anyway a channel for it, everybody is using anyway flagrps |
| 02:01.53 | Kirov | fair enough |
| 02:01.59 | Mikk | Actually, it might work better with a whisper. |
| 02:02.13 | Krishnak | hmm, I think you are right |
| 02:02.19 | Kirov | It might work better with an emote |
| 02:02.20 | Krishnak | I can surpress the whisper aswell |
| 02:02.21 | Kirov | ;) |
| 02:02.39 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.43 | Mikk | Then it works without a mod |
| 02:02.51 | Krishnak | so the user if he got the addon sees no whisper .... yeah absolutly |
| 02:03.18 | Krishnak | but what should I than script ;) |
| 02:03.40 | Kirov | First thing you want to do is come up with some kind of syntax |
| 02:03.46 | Kirov | for the whisper |
| 02:03.49 | Kirov | both to and from |
| 02:03.49 | Mikk | My syntax works damnit =) |
| 02:03.51 | Thrae|Away | Can we instantiate our own LCDText widget objects? |
| 02:04.15 | Kirov | LCD? |
| 02:04.25 | Mikk | It's for the gaming keyboards |
| 02:04.31 | Kirov | oh |
| 02:04.32 | Kirov | no |
| 02:04.40 | Kirov | Thrae - that's close |
| 02:04.56 | Thrae|Away | I just extracted the Blizzard FrameXML on my laptop (been a while on my desktop), and it came with a new LCDText.xml. |
| 02:06.48 | Kirov | Doesn't look like something they'll let you play with |
| 02:06.54 | Kirov | similar to the blizzard addons |
| 02:07.18 | Mikk | That'd be a bit wussy though |
| 02:07.19 | Kirov | And I don't think LCDText is a valid object |
| 02:07.28 | Mikk | AddOns outputting stuff via LCD seems like a very nice use |
| 02:07.52 | Kirov | Mikk - yes, it'd be nice ... also leaves a nice big gaping hole for botting |
| 02:08.01 | Mikk | How so? |
| 02:08.21 | Kirov | Blizzard limits exactly what information is sent |
| 02:09.02 | Kirov | If you could send out rotation / location data you could make another AutoTravel mod that uses a programable keyboard or software keyboard |
| 02:09.36 | Thrae|Away | If LCDText is not a valid object, then why even have the XML in the first place, using LCDText XML objects? |
| 02:09.46 | Mikk | Thrae|Away: Look at the schema name |
| 02:09.48 | Mikk | It's not UI XML |
| 02:09.52 | Mikk | It's LCD XML |
| 02:10.09 | Thrae|Away | Ahhh, so it is. |
| 02:11.14 | Mikk | Kirov: Absolutely possible. So is scanning pixels on the screen and telling your programmable keyboard to input stuff. |
| 02:11.22 | Mikk | Or, heck, hooking DirectX |
| 02:12.00 | Kirov | Aye |
| 02:12.06 | Kirov | But neither are particularly efficient |
| 02:12.22 | Kirov | using the lcd output would be "more" efficient |
| 02:12.35 | Mikk | How is the LCD output tied into keypresses though? |
| 02:12.39 | Kirov | though, obviouslly just reading the WoW memory space is the most efficient and what they all do anyways. |
| 02:12.58 | Kirov | It's not |
| 02:13.08 | Cairenn | received and forwarded |
| 02:13.15 | Mikk | thanks cair |
| 02:13.21 | Cairenn | np |
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| 02:21.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | grrragh, open the ptrs blizzard :[ |
| 02:21.45 | Mikk | ~nickometer Tonsofun|Serenit |
| 02:21.56 | Tonsofun|Serenit | brilliant |
| 02:22.10 | Mikk | ~nickometer Mr_Rabies2 |
| 02:22.19 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 02:22.22 | Mikk | sorry bud =) |
| 02:22.36 | totallycooldude | ~nickometer totallycooldude |
| 02:22.39 | Kirov | ~nickometer Kirov |
| 02:22.43 | Mikk | LAF |
| 02:22.43 | totallycooldude | hot damn |
| 02:22.55 | Kirov | woot |
| 02:23.09 | superduperlame | ~nickometer superduperlame |
| 02:23.17 | superduperlame | hrmm. |
| 02:23.25 | Mikk | you don't need to change nicks to test something btw |
| 02:23.30 | Ktwombley | we'll just use this one |
| 02:23.32 | Mikk | ~nickometer whatevernickhere |
| 02:23.40 | Ktwombley | regardless of its lameosity. |
| 02:23.48 | Ktwombley | of course |
| 02:23.49 | Kirov | ~nickometer purl |
| 02:24.07 | Kirov | ~lart purl |
| 02:24.18 | Mikk | purl, no, nickometer purl is <reply>'purl' is 100.000% lame |
| 02:24.20 | purl | Mikk: okay |
| 02:24.22 | Thrae|Away | Hmmm, why does GameTooltip's HealthBar only need OnValueChanged? Is that a handler that's pushed whenever a StatusBar applicable value is changed? |
| 02:24.25 | Mikk | ~nickometer purl |
| 02:24.29 | Mikk | beh |
| 02:24.35 | Mikk | ~botslap |
| 02:24.36 | purl | OUCH! That hurt, mikk! |
| 02:24.46 | Ktwombley | lawlz |
| 02:24.53 | Cairenn | stop abusing the bot Mik |
| 02:25.07 | Mikk | apologies =) |
| 02:25.18 | Ktwombley | hey, is that developer guild still extant? |
| 02:25.21 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 02:25.28 | Kirov | Thrae - the GameTooltip is an odd beast. For the most part controlled from the client outside of lua. The client updates the statusbar on it's own, and the OnValueChanged is how Lua knows it's been updated. |
| 02:25.29 | Cairenn | aye, it's still there |
| 02:25.50 | Ktwombley | do you know of any officers I can /tell to get an ginvite? |
| 02:26.18 | Cairenn | which side? |
| 02:26.39 | Ktwombley | either works |
| 02:26.46 | Thrae|Away | Kirov: Hmmm, so I'd have to register UNIT_HEALTH like everyone else, right? |
| 02:27.00 | Kirov | Thrae - yes |
| 02:27.11 | Cairenn | I need to know which side to log in on, and character name :p |
| 02:27.41 | Ktwombley | alliance, ktwombley |
| 02:29.05 | Cairenn | let me know when you are in |
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| 02:29.18 | Ktwombley | now, sir. |
| 02:29.24 | Cairenn | sir? |
| 02:29.36 | Cairenn | not finding you |
| 02:29.36 | Legorol | sir, yes, sir! |
| 02:30.05 | Legorol | correct realm, correct region? |
| 02:30.06 | Cairenn | US server, Draka |
| 02:30.15 | Cairenn | heh, same thought Legorol ;) |
| 02:30.34 | Kirkburn | Halfway through Act III now :) |
| 02:30.38 | Legorol | you know what they say... about how great thinkers mind alike |
| 02:30.52 | Cairenn | and fools seldom differ :p |
| 02:30.57 | Ktwombley | draka, yes. |
| 02:31.05 | Thrae|Away | Hmmm, then I'll need to use my hooked SetUnit function to store the unit that GameTooltip is currently mousing over. |
| 02:31.08 | Cairenn | US or EU? |
| 02:31.08 | Ktwombley | ktwombley, alliance side. |
| 02:31.12 | Ktwombley | us |
| 02:31.28 | Cairenn | send a /tell to Cairenn |
| 02:31.39 | Cairenn | because I am getting "player not found" repeatedly |
| 02:32.07 | Ktwombley | weird |
| 02:34.23 | Ktwombley | i exist. i'm sitting right here in this chair, honest. |
| 02:34.44 | Mikk | so.. can you spot cairenn online? |
| 02:34.59 | Ktwombley | we're talking, but he still can't ginvite me :-( |
| 02:35.04 | Cairenn | ... |
| 02:35.05 | Cairenn | SHE |
| 02:35.11 | Ktwombley | she, fine |
| 02:35.38 | Mikk | wrong continent fubarness? |
| 02:35.39 | Ktwombley | apologies |
| 02:35.48 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 02:36.00 | Cairenn | wtf? |
| 02:36.10 | Cairenn | now I can invite, now that I'm on the same continent? |
| 02:36.15 | Cairenn | that's just stupid weird |
| 02:37.06 | Ktwombley | I was beginning to think the guild was never used. |
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| 02:38.09 | Kirkburn | Mikk, that's an odd bug |
| 02:38.17 | Kirkburn | And I notice you've got your name now :) |
| 02:38.44 | Mikk | Yay =) |
| 02:39.30 | Legorol | Kirkburn, you are still awake? |
| 02:39.30 | Kirkburn | No |
| 02:39.31 | Legorol | damn |
| 02:39.36 | Kirkburn | Why? |
| 02:40.31 | Kirkburn | (this is a wonderful article: http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/world-of-warcraft/wow-guild-pulls-cancer-victim-from-financial-fire-187576.php) |
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| 02:41.08 | Kirkburn | Legorol, ? |
| 02:45.33 | Kirov | That article hits a little close to home. I had a guildie kill himself because he had that same cancer while my girlfriend and I were on vent with him. |
| 02:46.30 | Corrodias | so.. he killed himself while you were on vent with him, or he just had the cancer while he was on vent? |
| 02:46.42 | Kirov | He shot himself |
| 02:46.52 | Corrodias | "I underwent surgery to remove a mass the size of a softball from my neck" (would it not have been a bit... noticable before it got this big?) |
| 02:47.22 | Kirov | They grow fast. |
| 02:47.28 | Corrodias | ah |
| 02:52.13 | Mikk | In other news, undeads look very wrong on kodos. |
| 02:52.51 | Kirov | lol |
| 02:53.07 | Corrodias | in a related story, kodos look even more wrong on undeads |
| 02:53.45 | Mikk | Also, the orc Warsong Emissary sitting around in Orgrimmar is a Paladin |
| 02:53.51 | Mikk | Whaddayaknow =) |
| 02:54.32 | Corrodias | a preview of 1.15? ;) |
| 02:55.50 | Kirov | lol |
| 02:56.11 | Kirkburn | Doubt we'll get a 1.15 |
| 02:56.24 | Kirkburn | The expansion will take WoW to 2.0 |
| 02:56.40 | Thrae|Away | Gargh! |
| 02:56.42 | Corrodias | oh? |
| 02:56.57 | Thrae|Away | Does the upvalue limit concern how many times you're using a reference, or how many locals you have declared? |
| 02:57.08 | Kirkburn | Tseric said the first expansion patch will be 2.1, so ... |
| 02:57.51 | Kirkburn | I assume those without the expansion will also have 2.x patches, otherwise the whole thing will be totally confusing |
| 02:58.21 | Corrodias | don't you mean 2.01? lolol. just kidding. |
| 02:58.28 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 02:58.45 | Kirov | how are they going to do test realms post expansion? |
| 02:59.17 | Kirkburn | hrm |
| 02:59.31 | Mikk | if they're smart, everyone can play expansion on test realms |
| 02:59.32 | Kirov | currently they're 0.12 |
| 02:59.35 | Mikk | give them a taste of the good stuff |
| 02:59.50 | Kirkburn | Pretty much everyone will buy the expansion anyway |
| 02:59.56 | Kirov | after 2.0 are they going to have 1.12 be the test? |
| 03:00.22 | Mikk | haha. they didn't think of that one =) |
| 03:00.36 | Kirkburn | umm |
| 03:00.39 | Kirkburn | Good point |
| 03:00.40 | Kirkburn | 0.2.0? |
| 03:00.51 | Legorol | nah, they'll prolly start from 1.1 |
| 03:00.59 | Legorol | for the first patch post 2.0 |
| 03:01.05 | Kirkburn | But that would mess up the previous patches |
| 03:01.09 | Legorol | why? |
| 03:01.18 | Legorol | patches are identified by build number anyway.. |
| 03:01.25 | Legorol | not by the public version number |
| 03:01.29 | Legorol | that's just their for users' amusement |
| 03:01.34 | Kirkburn | True, but most won't know that |
| 03:01.43 | Legorol | well ok, so.. |
| 03:01.49 | Kirkburn | i.e. they'll see 1.4 and think ... haven't we already had this? ;) |
| 03:01.50 | Legorol | don't tell me that anyone finds 0.12 confusing, right? |
| 03:02.02 | Legorol | there will have been about 2 years gap between the two |
| 03:02.11 | Kirkburn | bah humbug :) |
| 03:02.47 | Kirkburn | Wouldn't it be nice if they made the expansion free |
| 03:02.58 | Kirkburn | Because then no-one would have to worry about take-up |
| 03:02.59 | Krishnak | no |
| 03:03.06 | Legorol | no |
| 03:03.06 | Kirov | People were confused by 1.10 vs. 1.1 |
| 03:03.09 | Legorol | take up? |
| 03:03.22 | Kirkburn | You could force everyone to have it |
| 03:03.23 | Corrodias | i don't understand! 10 is not the same as 1?! |
| 03:03.25 | Legorol | Kirov: they weren't confused, they were just nitpicking |
| 03:03.36 | Legorol | as far as i remember, Blizzard always did 1.9, 1.10, 1.11 etc. |
| 03:03.40 | Legorol | back in SC and WC too |
| 03:03.43 | Kirkburn | True, they didn't know how Blizz worked |
| 03:03.54 | End | it was 1.09 |
| 03:03.56 | Corrodias | i'm pretty sure diablo 2 was 1.03, 1.06, etc |
| 03:03.58 | End | 1.10 |
| 03:03.59 | End | etc |
| 03:04.00 | Krishnak | yes, but 1.1 is the same as 1.10 ;) |
| 03:04.08 | Kirkburn | I kill you |
| 03:04.12 | Mikk | haha |
| 03:04.25 | End | Blizzard changed it slightly, but it is still mostly the same |
| 03:04.32 | Kirkburn | Why did you say 'no' to it being nice to have the expansion free? |
| 03:04.40 | End | plus. they used letters for the minor rev |
| 03:04.44 | End | 1.09a |
| 03:04.52 | End | instead of 1.9.1 |
| 03:05.00 | Kirkburn | Ah yeah, I'm playing Diablo II 1.11b |
| 03:05.04 | Krishnak | I want less, not more wow users ;) |
| 03:05.23 | Mikk | zztime tbh |
| 03:05.24 | Kirkburn | No, I meant free for people playing already! |
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| 03:05.25 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.56 | Kirkburn | It's not as if they need the money |
| 03:06.08 | Kirkburn | I realise it's a bad arguement, okay :) |
| 03:06.16 | Krishnak | well, some more money is always nice ;) |
| 03:06.51 | Corrodias | you play diablo 2, actively? |
| 03:06.54 | Corrodias | do you play on bnet? |
| 03:07.05 | Kirkburn | Nah, just playing through the game again |
| 03:07.14 | Krishnak | especial when your publisher is a greedy frensh mega corp ;) |
| 03:07.19 | Kirkburn | Got to Act III now after to days |
| 03:07.23 | Kirkburn | *two |
| 03:07.29 | Corrodias | well, maybe you can connect to bnet and ask a question for me? >_> i don't want to install it and find my discs just for that |
| 03:07.41 | Kirkburn | (I'm a completist, so that's better progress than you think) |
| 03:07.49 | Kirkburn | What's the question?? |
| 03:08.30 | Corrodias | ask 'em what the current state of the hacks is. that is, i'm wondering if it's worth even playing, because a hacking program i've seen would pretty much make the game little fun if other people were using it, but i can't tell if it's usable on bnet. |
| 03:08.48 | Corrodias | the author hedges around on that point |
| 03:09.10 | Kirkburn | Not a clue |
| 03:09.25 | Krishnak | I would guess, its the same as always, bots and hacks everywhere ;) |
| 03:09.25 | Kirkburn | Plus I doubt I could get onto Bnet anyway |
| 03:09.54 | Kirkburn | Afaik, I think the situation has got a bit better now, but I'm not certain |
| 03:09.54 | Corrodias | i want to play d2 a little, but i want to play it back how it was in 1.09, at the most. actually, i want to play it back how it was in 1.06. |
| 03:10.03 | Kirkburn | What's changed? |
| 03:10.05 | Corrodias | but i can't go into the past! |
| 03:10.14 | Krishnak | hehe, I liked 1.10 |
| 03:10.41 | Krishnak | though pre lod is was defintaly more fun |
| 03:10.45 | Corrodias | after 1.06, you could no longer leech health from undead, and mana, if leechable, was reduced. |
| 03:11.22 | Corrodias | in 1.09, i felt there was a comfortable level of hacks, with mousepad's maphack free and providing a bunch of useful but not game-breaking features |
| 03:11.24 | Kirkburn | But what big changes were there? I remember following them for a while, but I don't recall them |
| 03:11.35 | Corrodias | beats me what the -big- ones were |
| 03:12.21 | Corrodias | i just remember that after 1.06 it became extremely difficult for some classes to kill skeletons due to the inability to regain your health and mana from them |
| 03:12.27 | Krishnak | imo maphack was already "game breaking" |
| 03:12.57 | Kirkburn | I'm playing as an uber barbarian atm |
| 03:13.15 | Kirkburn | Kills quite a lot of things in one hit :) |
| 03:13.19 | Corrodias | to the extent that many of us would avoid the act 2 sewers for a while because we couldn't kill anything |
| 03:13.36 | Krishnak | it looked like just a minor help, but if you think about, the runs got speed up alot cause of that little hack |
| 03:13.38 | Kirkburn | Wow, harsh |
| 03:14.07 | Corrodias | when i say "game-breaking" i suppose i mostly mean in the sense of pvp |
| 03:14.09 | Kirkburn | Well, so far I've had little trouble |
| 03:14.46 | Krishnak | well, 30% faster items, means 30% better equip ;) |
| 03:14.59 | Krishnak | with the same time spend |
| 03:15.05 | Kirkburn | I don't recall seeing so many magic drops when I played before - especially charms, but inventory is full of them |
| 03:15.10 | Corrodias | actually, from what i've seen of the current "best" hack, there's little need for a human to be involved at all, as it mostly appears to play the game on its own >_> |
| 03:15.34 | Krishnak | yeah, lots of bots |
| 03:15.38 | Kirkburn | bet that's fun :/ |
| 03:15.52 | Krishnak | thats something for work ;) |
| 03:16.00 | Corrodias | i guess the only "unpleasant" part of that would be if somebody else comes into my game and starts botting the bosses |
| 03:16.04 | Krishnak | leave your char get some items, while your at work |
| 03:16.26 | Corrodias | but then you can move to another game and use the waypoints to get close, anyway. |
| 03:16.26 | Kirkburn | I used to cheat on games when I was younger, but I've come to realise that it's completely pointless |
| 03:16.44 | End | for most games it ruins the fun |
| 03:16.47 | Kirkburn | I think I cheated my way through HL1, like a fool. |
| 03:16.48 | Krishnak | it screws the eco, but sure you can still play just fine, but it takes away imo alot of fun |
| 03:17.07 | End | I like using cheats in GTA though, because some of the cheats are goofy :P |
| 03:17.09 | Corrodias | if the point of a game is a challenge, then removing the challenge really leaves you with nothing but a short excercise. |
| 03:17.16 | Kirkburn | Hell yeah, GTA cheats are great |
| 03:17.25 | End | I flew a tank once in vice city |
| 03:17.31 | Kirkburn | Flew?! |
| 03:17.33 | Corrodias | if there's something -else- that's entertaining about the game, though, it can be fun to cheat anyway. |
| 03:17.34 | End | yes |
| 03:17.45 | Kirkburn | nice |
| 03:18.24 | End | GTA is fun because it's not really constrained on what you can do |
| 03:18.51 | Corrodias | if only they bothered to make it a PC game and not a half-hearted port |
| 03:18.58 | End | yeah |
| 03:19.17 | End | I -have- played it on PC, but it's more fun on a console |
| 03:19.29 | End | controls seem more decided for a console for one thing |
| 03:19.59 | Corrodias | they still have not demonstrated an ability to make smooth animation transitions. *eyeroll* |
| 03:20.16 | Corrodias | i'm just standing here. OH NOW I'M RUNNING! oh, wait, i stopped! |
| 03:22.00 | Kirkburn | GTA4 is supposed to be arriving at the same time as the console versions, so there may be hope |
| 03:22.13 | Corrodias | 4? |
| 03:22.24 | Kirkburn | 4 |
| 03:22.27 | Corrodias | they decided to go back to the "number" scheme after producing two unnumbered games? |
| 03:22.46 | Kirkburn | I think so |
| 03:23.21 | Kirkburn | http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/microsofts-coup-gta-on-360-before-ps3/ |
| 03:23.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | vc and sa were both on the gta3 engine iirc, so they were more like expansions |
| 03:23.57 | Corrodias | significantly modified versions of it, yes |
| 03:24.18 | Kirkburn | GTA4 isn't coming until oct 2007 though |
| 03:24.39 | Corrodias | "GTA4 is dropping in 2007" -- what does "dropping" mean? |
| 03:25.07 | Kirov | Being thrown out |
| 03:25.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | see, you have to kill an avatar of bill gates, and he drops it |
| 03:25.17 | Corrodias | from the context i'd assume it to be synonymous with "shipping", but it seems silly to create a whole new word when we have an existing one that is the same thing. |
| 03:25.37 | Corrodias | well, to use a word in an entirely new way |
| 03:25.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's probably an attempt to be more "street savvy" |
| 03:26.27 | Corrodias | whoa, those guys are hard core |
| 03:27.13 | Kirov | I've actually heard the term "dropping" used for "shipping" before |
| 03:28.03 | Corrodias | i've heard it in the context of a new item starting to drop from killed enemies. :P |
| 03:28.13 | Corrodias | i have to admit that they probably are better on a console. you get your pressure-sensitive buttons and analog stick, while we get ... basically nothing, because they put no effort into accomodating the PC. |
| 03:28.56 | Corrodias | in a few days, i should have a ps2->usb converter that claims to support the pressure-sensitive buttons (in what way, i have no idea). i will see if it actually does so in a useful way. |
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| 03:46.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone know of an addon that lets me type an item name like [Hearthstone] and have it spit out a link, if it's in my lootlink database or whatever? preferably with autocomplete, like lootlinkenhanced? I'd use that, but the original lootlink has a ton of improvements and whatnot since enhanced has last been updated |
| 03:47.41 | Wobin | KCI does that |
| 03:48.16 | Kirov | I need to work on LLe again soon |
| 03:48.26 | Kirov | Working on other stuff though |
| 03:48.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | isn't KCI essentially mutially exclusive from lootlink? they perform most of the same functions, eh? |
| 03:48.49 | Kirov | Yes |
| 03:48.56 | Kirov | KCI is more efficient |
| 03:49.16 | Kirov | LL (and LLe) have a lot more information they hang on to |
| 03:49.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really like LLe's interface |
| 03:49.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | and quick search, and whatnot |
| 03:49.46 | AnduinLothar | LLe? |
| 03:49.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | lootlink enhanced |
| 03:50.10 | Kirov | my bastardised version of Lootlink |
| 03:50.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/modscreen-3326-6922-1-27000-items-information-icons-multiple-same-name-items.html |
| 03:50.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | they really need to figure out something else to do with invalid links other than dc you |
| 03:51.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i see farmers linking "[]" all day and when i click on it, it's an item |
| 03:51.28 | Kirov | Because those aren't invalid links |
| 03:51.33 | Kirov | They're links in chinese |
| 03:51.38 | Kirov | which we can't display |
| 03:51.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | but blizzard kicks those that are like, "gee i wonder if [the end of dreams] is on the serverKICK" |
| 03:51.58 | Kirov | WoW Servers aren't language specific |
| 03:52.28 | Corrodias | so the items have a list of valid names that you can use |
| 03:52.43 | Kirov | Yeah |
| 03:53.03 | Corrodias | if you link an item that hasn't been seen, you're disconnected, and if you use a name that isn't on the list... what happens? i quit playing while that was still possible. |
| 03:53.03 | Kirov | the way it works is it looks at the itemID and checks if it matches any of the valid localizations |
| 03:53.58 | Kirov | If the itemID hasn't been seen, you get disconnected. If the name doesn't match, you get disconnected |
| 03:54.37 | Shadowed|nax | adowed |
| 03:54.39 | Shadowed|nax | bah |
| 03:54.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there a way to "force" item links for stuff you haven't seen, but the server has? |
| 03:54.58 | Kirov | in LLe? |
| 03:55.09 | Kirov | hold down shift |
| 03:55.16 | Kirov | and ctrl |
| 03:55.20 | Kirov | or alt |
| 03:55.21 | Kirov | I forget |
| 03:55.29 | Kirov | In my own version it just prompts you |
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| 03:57.04 | Kirov | I'll probably release the version of STranq I have right now as a beta. |
| 03:57.21 | Kirov | Then try and fix SimpleFeignHealth and then LLe |
| 03:58.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean like, with script commands, something that you haven't seen in your lootlink database or whatever? |
| 03:58.52 | Kirov | Sure |
| 03:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, if i wanted to see if end of dreams has been seen on my server since the last restart, can i do like /script GenerateItemlink The End of Dreams,8675309,purplecolorcode,etcetc;? |
| 03:59.08 | Kirov | There's a mod called ItemMagic |
| 03:59.14 | Kirov | ItemSync does it too |
| 03:59.42 | Kirov | Not sure if I'll add it to LLe |
| 04:01.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes seperate addons are better than all-in-ones |
| 04:01.10 | Corrodias | i wonder if i should get into fencing. |
| 04:01.31 | Kirov | random |
| 04:01.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed it was |
| 04:05.24 | AnduinLothar | :) my prairie dog says it's a minion |
| 04:06.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 04:06.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's russian mail order bride ads on Curse |
| 04:07.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | is...is that worse than gold selling? |
| 04:07.33 | Corrodias | maybe not. |
| 04:07.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | the addoninsider is "autoservitude" also |
| 04:07.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 04:07.38 | Corrodias | "Unfortunately, the force generated by elite athletes seems to be increasing even beyond the accelerating standards for the structural integrity of fencing equipment (4, 7). // In the most recent death, the athlete was using the highest standard equipment available (14)." |
| 04:08.30 | Corrodias | fantastic! "Most often noted are a right-handed fencer fencing a left-handed fencer, the use of orthopaedic grips, and the propensity to make counterattacks (4, 13)." and i'm left-handed. |
| 04:09.00 | Corrodias | okay, i have no particular wish for an early death or serious injury, so i think i'll forget about that. |
| 04:10.54 | Kaelten | whats the purpose of the usage command? |
| 04:11.00 | Kaelten | whops wrong channel |
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| 05:53.19 | Krishnak | fencing is fun, though not mordern |
| 05:53.43 | Krishnak | morning everybody btw :) |
| 05:54.48 | Kirov | wow |
| 05:55.17 | Kirov | picking up a conversation from 3 hours ago ... and not a word to be had between |
| 05:55.27 | Krishnak | *g* |
| 05:56.09 | Krishnak | and just 2 hours :p |
| 05:56.27 | Kirov | meh |
| 05:56.29 | Corrodias | do any of you have mechwarrior 2 mercenaries? |
| 05:56.31 | Kirov | details |
| 05:56.37 | Kirov | I do |
| 05:56.41 | Kirov | er, did |
| 05:56.51 | Krishnak | I did I guess |
| 05:57.11 | Krishnak | or maybe it was another mech2, there were several iirc |
| 05:57.16 | Corrodias | did... isn't as useful to me. |
| 05:57.24 | Kirov | what's up? |
| 05:57.32 | Krishnak | and see, he is even still arround ;) |
| 05:57.53 | Corrodias | i need an image of the disc that includes the audio tracks, which is proving quite difficult to obtain |
| 05:57.55 | Kirov | Again with the details, enough of that! |
| 05:58.15 | Kirov | what for? |
| 05:58.38 | Corrodias | for playing, mostly. or tinkering with, anyway. i don't know if i'd actually -play- it much. |
| 05:59.28 | Kirov | I had two copies |
| 05:59.40 | Kirov | One came with my Sidewinder 3d joystick |
| 05:59.54 | Kirov | The other with my GeForce card |
| 06:00.23 | Kirov | So, I could play with 3d acceleration, or with my joystick, but not both |
| 06:01.06 | Corrodias | activision really gave mechwarrior 2 and mercenaries the shaft for marketting's sake |
| 06:01.41 | Krishnak | my sidewinder does not even work under windows anymore *g* |
| 06:02.48 | Krishnak | and well, no mech2 here, got lost when moving I guess |
| 06:03.56 | Kirov | Actually, it was with my Voodoo 1 card, not my GeForce card |
| 06:05.25 | Kirov | After the Mech2 games, FASA pulled the license from Activision and they released the first Heavy Gear game, which was basically Mech3 quickly rebadged. |
| 06:11.02 | Kirov | hmm |
| 06:11.03 | Kirov | Dandelion quit |
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| 06:22.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9081732&p=1&tmp=1#post9081732 |
| 06:22.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | sigh |
| 06:22.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | gotta love those posts |
| 06:23.31 | Shadowed | thats way to long |
| 06:23.42 | Shadowed | can i safely summerize that he's complaining about spellalert and decursive? |
| 06:24.13 | Corrodias | " I know I will get flamed to all heck for this post, but I don't care. " <- thus, flamebait or, even, troll, and a violation of the forum rules, subject for deletion. |
| 06:24.20 | Corrodias | not that the mods would ever, you know, moderate. |
| 06:25.08 | Cairenn | actually, decursive and CTRaid |
| 06:25.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | the thing is, he's a WARRIOR |
| 06:25.36 | Corrodias | on a pvp realm, from what i know of the names |
| 06:25.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only thing he has to do is bitch that he's not getting healed because everyone's trying to find the freaking dispel buttons |
| 06:25.44 | Shadowed | lol |
| 06:26.54 | Krishnak | hehe, hey he got one or two not that bad points |
| 06:27.12 | Krishnak | stopcasting was imo not a good function for uimods |
| 06:27.13 | Shadowed | that decursive/CTRaid dont require you to think as much? |
| 06:27.27 | Corrodias | oops, he hit tl;dr |
| 06:27.51 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 06:29.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, the thing is, if you had to think as much as was necessary without using these mods, people would still be in MC |
| 06:29.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | they've compensated for the fact that most people HAVE these mods |
| 06:30.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why all the bosses chuck out ten million debuffs |
| 06:30.23 | Shadowed | Well, I don't think Chromaggus was really meant to be done with Decursive |
| 06:30.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | to throw a wrench in the machinery and take our focus away from healing to cure them |
| 06:30.27 | Shadowed | since it removes a lot of the hard part of it |
| 06:30.49 | Kirov_ | Mr_Rabies2 - Blizzard has stated that they test all their encounters with out any mods allowed |
| 06:31.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | they also stated C'thun was possible before they patched him :/ |
| 06:31.16 | End | just downed chromag :) |
| 06:31.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | testing and completing are two different things |
| 06:31.31 | Kirov_ | Granted, you have 40 people who already know exactly how to beat the boss at hand, and are likely all in the same room. |
| 06:32.02 | Shadowed | the issue is more the fact that every person knows the whole strat before hand |
| 06:32.07 | Krishnak | actually my gf still decurse without decursive from strat to bwl |
| 06:32.10 | Kirov_ | The difference between yelling across the room vs. 2 second lag in vent should not be underestimated |
| 06:32.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Krishnak> actually my gf still decurse without decursive from strat to bwl |
| 06:32.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | if a whole guild did that, they'd be completely screwed |
| 06:32.39 | Krishnak | with ctraid alone is already not that hard |
| 06:32.56 | Krishnak | nah, she decurse better than alot mages with decursive that I know :) |
| 06:33.23 | Kirov_ | Blizzard already has attempted to make encounters which, if the player is using decursive, will fuck over the raid. |
| 06:33.27 | Kirov_ | Huhuran for example. |
| 06:33.29 | Krishnak | you have anyway global cooldown on the spell, so abit time to target a new target manual |
| 06:33.35 | Kirov_ | You'll kill all your rogues if you use decursive |
| 06:34.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, some fight's it's not necessary, and in fact, bad to use |
| 06:34.37 | Krishnak | hehe I remember a quote of a friend, "would the stupid priests please stop dispelling our potions" hehe sleep of the dreamless potions is dispellable *g* |
| 06:34.37 | Shadowed | I've had that happen to me a couple of times |
| 06:34.42 | Shadowed | nearly dying due to them removing the sting |
| 06:34.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they wouldn't implement that in fights if not everyone used the mods |
| 06:35.18 | Kirov_ | Trying to do the Lucifron fight with out decursive is insane. |
| 06:35.24 | Kirov_ | or with out a raid UI |
| 06:35.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you decurse during the hakkar fight, be prepared to get gkicked from my guild |
| 06:35.30 | Shadowed | but they did it |
| 06:35.33 | Shadowed | and did it in blues |
| 06:35.36 | Kirov_ | Aye |
| 06:35.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | who's "they?" |
| 06:35.54 | Kirov_ | Early MC guilds |
| 06:36.15 | Shadowed | Conquest, ect |
| 06:36.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | luci's drakk with more hp |
| 06:36.31 | Kirov_ | And an AOE curse that does 2000 damage |
| 06:36.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | honestly, you can get through that fight without decursive in blues. It's a pain, but you can |
| 06:36.45 | Shadowed | and also doubles the cost of energy/mana/rage spells |
| 06:36.47 | Krishnak | which most of the raid does not need to stand even in range |
| 06:36.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | but there's fights in which you HAVE to be on the dot with it or your raid's screwed |
| 06:37.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | luci doesn't hit particularly hard, and there's a lot of time to cure the debuffs before they become a pain |
| 06:37.55 | Krishnak | what actually really helps, is to color the names of curse ppl in ctraid |
| 06:38.22 | Krishnak | or alternativ good groups, so you have not to look for the whole raid |
| 06:38.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i didn't have decursive, i'd be too busy healing to worry about cleansing anyone in most fights |
| 06:39.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | not to mention that if ctra didn't exist, you probably wouldn't be healing outside of your own group very much |
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| 06:39.53 | Krishnak | except for mt healers |
| 06:39.55 | Shadowed | To be fair, I think that even if CTRA hadn't been released somebody would have done it |
| 06:40.09 | Corrodias | would have made a CTRA-like addon? |
| 06:40.16 | Krishnak | though these days the blizzard raid interface has to options aswell mostly |
| 06:40.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only reason the blizzard one has those options is because of ctra |
| 06:40.36 | Corrodias | i hardly think that CT has a monopoly on the -ability- to make an addon like RA. |
| 06:40.42 | Krishnak | showing whole raid, buffs, dunno if debuffs aswell |
| 06:41.00 | Krishnak | there is xraid for example, nice raid interface |
| 06:41.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a pretty straightforward idea |
| 06:41.15 | Shadowed | yeah, it's not really anything special |
| 06:41.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's essentially necessary to get along in the later fights |
| 06:41.23 | Shadowed | somebody would have done it if CT hadn't |
| 06:41.28 | Krishnak | yeah, its just that ctra is well done |
| 06:41.42 | Krishnak | so everyone refers to it |
| 06:42.03 | Krishnak | alot of addons are so well done, that blizzard later intergrates those functions to their own interface |
| 06:42.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if those addons didn't exist, they wouldn |
| 06:42.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | t |
| 06:42.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think they need to implement a decursive of sorts |
| 06:42.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | themselves |
| 06:42.42 | Kirov_ | I doubt that'll ever happen |
| 06:42.57 | Shadowed | Didn't they said a long time back they are trying to disable it? |
| 06:42.59 | Krishnak | decursive makes idiots *g* |
| 06:43.01 | Kirov_ | Blizzard desperately wants to be able to disable decursive, but it's just not possible. |
| 06:43.08 | Shadowed | Well, it is possible |
| 06:43.10 | Krishnak | really, people are getting dumb from it ^-^ |
| 06:43.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | aka set up a priority list for your debuff curing based on class, and have it follow that debuff priority system |
| 06:43.20 | Shadowed | but the restrictions from using it would make other mods suffer |
| 06:43.26 | Corrodias | it automatically removes curses from people, right? |
| 06:43.34 | Corrodias | they could just remove the spell that removes curses! |
| 06:43.36 | Krishnak | no |
| 06:43.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's semi-automatic at best |
| 06:43.50 | Krishnak | you have still to "click" or hit a key |
| 06:43.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | you have to know when to use it and when not to use it |
| 06:43.59 | Shadowed | Mr_Rabies2: not even |
| 06:44.10 | Shadowed | the new decursive has a live window that shows the debuff and who has it |
| 06:44.14 | Krishnak | and its imo best use with clicking, cause you can adujust priority on the fly that way |
| 06:44.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have mine set to mouse 5 and i just hammer that most of the time |
| 06:44.48 | Krishnak | exactly, though I think its already some versions old |
| 06:45.31 | Shadowed | they would have to remove what to disable it |
| 06:45.36 | Krishnak | I have set most of the times myself, mygroup and priorty targets on ignore, and do them manualy, the rest by hammering on the list |
| 06:45.37 | Shadowed | UnitDebuff basically? |
| 06:45.48 | Shadowed | And setting a debuff in tooltips |
| 06:45.55 | Kirov_ | Yep |
| 06:45.58 | Krishnak | ju |
| 06:46.00 | Krishnak | sounds so |
| 06:46.19 | Krishnak | and this would really hurt |
| 06:46.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm too busy keeping people's health bar's up to worry about deciding if 1) it's a good time to cleanse them, 2) who needs cleansed first, and 3) how my mana pool is doing from decursing and healing combined |
| 06:46.30 | Kirov_ | They already hate tooltip scanning |
| 06:46.31 | Krishnak | as ctra would not be able to show debuffs aswell |
| 06:46.51 | Shadowed | basically, it's impossible to disable without saying it's a banned addon and telling people to remove it |
| 06:46.56 | Corrodias | so maybe the idea is that you're "supposed" to have one or two people dedicated to removing curses while the others heal and whatever else |
| 06:47.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's an incredibly boring existance |
| 06:47.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | even more boring than healbotting |
| 06:47.24 | Corrodias | i like healbotting. ._. |
| 06:47.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wouldn't wish that role on my enemies |
| 06:47.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | what class are you? |
| 06:47.56 | Krishnak | I was doing the healer channel, we had alot of specific healers for specific people, so not much random healing, and enough time to check those stuff while healing |
| 06:48.07 | Corrodias | none, now. i've played druid in WoW and monk in Guild Wars |
| 06:48.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh playing a druid for healing is like using a putter to tee off with in golf |
| 06:48.47 | Krishnak | if you just have to keep an eye on a maximum of 5 people, you have alot of free time |
| 06:48.57 | Corrodias | actually, guild wars healing was very exciting |
| 06:49.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, you can do it, but it's a lot more work, and it makes more sense to use something designed for it |
| 06:49.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | gw had better pvp and better combat in general |
| 06:49.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | just terrible terrible pve |
| 06:49.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | terrible. |
| 06:49.37 | Krishnak | and to much instancing for my taste |
| 06:49.41 | Corrodias | indeed. there was no point to the pve, beyond unlocking skills. |
| 06:49.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:49.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you had to unlock skills to do well in pvp |
| 06:49.56 | Shadowed | I enjoy it |
| 06:50.05 | Corrodias | if you worked really hard, you could eventually... earn a slightly different appearance for your character. :/ lame. |
| 06:50.07 | Shadowed | Nax is a lot more fun |
| 06:50.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're still working on emps |
| 06:50.17 | Krishnak | everything depends on personal taste |
| 06:50.26 | Corrodias | nax? emps? |
| 06:50.31 | Krishnak | not every mmorpg is for everyone, a wise man said once to me *g* |
| 06:50.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | once we drop emps we'll prob start on nax |
| 06:50.50 | Krishnak | you could already do abit trashmobs I guess |
| 06:50.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:50.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | but no real point in it |
| 06:51.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't roll that way |
| 06:51.12 | Corrodias | abit trashmobs? |
| 06:51.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | we clear the place in a month and move on |
| 06:51.19 | Shadowed | Mr_Rabies2: i'd usuggest trying out c'thun at least |
| 06:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course |
| 06:51.25 | Corrodias | are we still talking about WoW? |
| 06:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | two at once |
| 06:51.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 06:52.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | twin emps = 2nd to last boss in aq40, naxx is the newest raid instance |
| 06:52.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell we cleared trash with a pug, except for the freaking gargs |
| 06:52.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | couldnt push enough dps on the ptr to drop em |
| 06:53.38 | Krishnak | ptr? |
| 06:53.50 | Shadowed | Public test realm |
| 06:54.27 | Kirov_ | emps are third to last |
| 06:54.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | er yeah |
| 06:54.38 | Kirov_ | ouro is 2nd |
| 06:54.56 | Krishnak | but noone is doing him, right? ;) |
| 06:54.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2nd technically, since ouro is skippable, or am i just totally wrong? |
| 06:55.06 | Kirov_ | he is |
| 06:55.09 | Krishnak | at least not before ctun *g* |
| 06:55.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't read strats that far ahead of time usually |
| 06:55.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually the night we drop him |
| 06:55.33 | Kirov_ | Most people don't do Ouro since for a while people didn't think he was possible. |
| 06:55.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | huhu took us two weeks, we're hoping for emps in 1, but i think it's gonna take 2 |
| 06:55.46 | Kirov_ | Though, he aparently drops the best non-Naxx gun in the game |
| 06:56.18 | Kirov_ | aq bosses are evil in that they really don't leave room for ANYONE in the raid to fuck one |
| 06:56.20 | Kirov_ | er, up |
| 06:56.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | we aaaalmost have the transition down now, and that's the hardest part |
| 06:56.33 | Kirov_ | One person does the wrong thing, and it's game over. |
| 06:56.34 | Shadowed | Kirov_: they're not suppose to though |
| 06:56.45 | Kirov_ | c'thun certainly is |
| 06:56.45 | Shadowed | as they get harder they are suppose to get less forgiving and change how you think of raiding |
| 06:57.07 | Kirov_ | one dumb person on c'thun can kill everyone |
| 06:57.15 | Kirov_ | instantantly |
| 06:57.15 | Krishnak | yeah, in mc its like "20 people do the work" the rest is half afk |
| 06:57.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell 1 dumb person on vael can kill everyone |
| 06:57.24 | Shadowed | It's worst in nax |
| 06:57.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i've seen it happen more than once |
| 06:57.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't imagine how hard sapphiron and kelthuzad are gonna be |
| 06:57.42 | Kirov_ | Mr_Rabies2 - aye, but that requires that one person be at least decently geared to do so |
| 06:57.47 | Krishnak | well that can even happen on geddon |
| 06:57.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | christ it's gonna be a freaking nightmare |
| 06:58.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i pull aggro in ubrs blues all the time on vael on accident |
| 06:58.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i blame cat form not having a threat reduction aura on that though :[ |
| 06:59.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i spam cower every time it comes off cooldown and i still pull aggro |
| 06:59.34 | Krishnak | yeah, catform is a agro magnet |
| 06:59.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | esp on vael |
| 06:59.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause we do as much or more dps than most rogues in that fight |
| 06:59.59 | Kirov_ | If you pull aggro in vael, or you don't move away when you get adrenaline, you're an idiot. Same goes for baron geddon. |
| 07:00.10 | Krishnak | with unlimed ... uhm how that skill is called in english? cats backstab? |
| 07:00.18 | Kirov_ | On C'thun, just just have to be standing in the wrong place for a tenth of a second |
| 07:00.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause we can fb for 2500+ consistently and rock the aggro |
| 07:00.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | cat's backstab is Shred in english |
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| 07:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's cower, shred for 1500, shred for 1500, shred for 1500, ferocious bite for 2500, cower, shred for 1500, pull aggro and get owned |
| 07:02.05 | Krishnak | simply stop finishing :p |
| 07:02.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | but then my dps sucks |
| 07:02.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | gotta have a balance of the two |
| 07:02.39 | Krishnak | yeah, and once your dead your dps sucks even more :p |
| 07:02.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the balance is hard for us to get because of not having a threat reduction passive like rogues and wars in battle/berserker |
| 07:03.01 | Krishnak | an agrometer helps to controll agro with vael |
| 07:03.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | we can only do 80% of a rogue's aggro before pulling aggro |
| 07:03.21 | Krishnak | right |
| 07:03.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that's really easy to do in vael |
| 07:03.47 | Krishnak | right aswell |
| 07:04.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | if we had that threat passive it wouldn't be a problem at all |
| 07:04.23 | Krishnak | while casters gets interrupped all the time and their spells get slowed down, so they have not such a hard time to controll their agro |
| 07:04.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | so druids get massive aggro there unless they don't even hit the dps meter at all |
| 07:05.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | still a fun fight even if i die |
| 07:05.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually i can survive pulling aggro for about two seconds |
| 07:05.34 | Krishnak | I guess at least at the beginning of their bwl time, they will do more dmg than casters on vael |
| 07:05.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather die than heal that fight |
| 07:06.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've healed it a few times, not NEARLY as intense |
| 07:06.02 | Krishnak | horrible for druids |
| 07:06.08 | Krishnak | pure fun as priest ^-^ |
| 07:06.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | only thing we can do is spam regrowth |
| 07:06.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | which isn't sufficient to keep tanks up |
| 07:06.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and HT takes too long to cast, so it's crap either way |
| 07:06.48 | Krishnak | when you can go forward an spam holy nova it is totally fun, mindless, but still fun ^-.^ |
| 07:07.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | our only aoe heal is channeled and crappy :[ |
| 07:07.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love getting hit with BA though |
| 07:07.47 | Krishnak | and got a crappy timer, even with t1 complett |
| 07:07.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | starfirestarfirestarfirestarfirestarfirestarfirestarfirestarfirestarfire |
| 07:08.03 | Krishnak | boom |
| 07:08.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i spam that crap like it's moonfire |
| 07:08.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | only it hits harder than 300 on a crit :P |
| 07:08.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | it hits for like 600-700 on a crit |
| 07:08.37 | Krishnak | though as druide you can atleast keep one group alive easy and do some caster dmg aswell |
| 07:08.58 | Krishnak | so its not that bad, but alot of work |
| 07:09.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | most people have good enough fire resist on that fight |
| 07:09.16 | Krishnak | I wouldn?t like to have that job *g* |
| 07:09.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | so healing's really not that big of a deal for anything but the tanks |
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| 07:09.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to tank the first rotation eventually |
| 07:09.42 | Krishnak | depends on the raid |
| 07:10.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to get the molten set -_- |
| 07:10.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one in our guild can make it though |
| 07:10.46 | Krishnak | our server is for this nice, no real raid guilds at all, just raidgroups, with alot of help each other |
| 07:11.06 | Krishnak | so you can always get the stuff from someone when you get the mats from your raid |
| 07:13.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's two "honorable" raiding guilds on our server |
| 07:14.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | the rest all backstab each other, exploit content, etc |
| 07:14.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 07:14.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2 that are past molten core |
| 07:16.03 | Krishnak | sounds like fun *g* |
| 07:16.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, our server's like going to high school all over again |
| 07:17.08 | Krishnak | or better sounds abit like our ally raids, who stand with 3 10 player raids before azu and watch hord killing him |
| 07:17.27 | Krishnak | horde |
| 07:17.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | we've yet to even try azuregos |
| 07:17.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | we mopped kazzak up in about 40 seconds |
| 07:18.22 | Krishnak | azu is rarely done with a regular raid, mostly random groups, just like kazzak |
| 07:19.30 | Corrodias | didn't i read about a combined horde & alliance raid on one of the outdoor bosses quite a while back? |
| 07:19.52 | Krishnak | we have a 10% rule for azu |
| 07:20.07 | Krishnak | if he is below 10% everyone thats arround finish him |
| 07:20.20 | Krishnak | though not everyone sticks to the rule |
| 07:20.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would be the one that rooted the mt and ran off and stealthed |
| 07:20.43 | Krishnak | hehe |
| 07:21.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause rooted mobs dont follow aggro |
| 07:21.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 07:21.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | got that backwards, i'm half asleep |
| 07:34.04 | Wobin | http://www.jigsawdoku.com/ |
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| 07:39.43 | Kirov_ | wb al |
| 07:40.55 | Kirov_ | got tired of killing kittens (with your evil "Sky") and decided to join us in again? |
| 07:53.33 | Kirov_ | hmm |
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| 07:55.34 | Kirov_ | wtf? |
| 07:55.52 | Kirov_ | if you override UnitIsDead, UnitIsDeadOrGhost stops working |
| 07:56.11 | Kirov_ | oh, wait, no |
| 07:56.13 | Kirov_ | nm |
| 07:57.12 | Shadowed | Shouldn't it? |
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| 08:24.54 | flyhigh` | hi, i would like to add a comand in an already exsting addon, so if here is someone that can help me about it - pls pm me :) |
| 08:29.29 | Kirov_ | what kind of command? |
| 08:29.31 | Kirov_ | and what addon? |
| 08:29.45 | Kirov_ | and this isn't a trade channel, no pms |
| 08:31.41 | flyhigh` | hehe oke sorry just wanted to skip the flood here ... well the command is just /chatlog |
| 08:31.56 | Kirov_ | flood? |
| 08:32.25 | Kirov_ | what would /chalog do? |
| 08:32.59 | flyhigh` | well /chatlog is loggin` all the chat in wow, it's the basic command from the game |
| 08:33.22 | flyhigh` | i just want to implime it in some already existing addon so i don;t have to type it every time i enter the game |
| 08:33.44 | Kirov_ | ah |
| 08:33.49 | Corrodias | i brlirbr |
| 08:33.53 | Corrodias | i mean, i believe there are addons for that... |
| 08:34.29 | Corrodias | let's see if i can find a name |
| 08:34.30 | Kirov_ | stick this line in any of your mods at the top |
| 08:34.32 | flyhigh` | not as good as the command is, they don't log all or have some other limitations |
| 08:34.32 | Kirov_ | LoggingChat(1) |
| 08:35.17 | flyhigh` | thx a lot :))) |
| 08:36.28 | Corrodias | never mind, i don't even know what half of these addons did, any more |
| 08:38.06 | Kirov_ | oy |
| 08:38.19 | Kirov_ | Every time I open my mailbox now I lag out for like 20 seconds |
| 08:42.51 | Industrial | morning |
| 08:45.29 | flyhigh` | Thanks again to both of u! Have a nice day guyz :) |
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| 09:39.12 | ckknight | hey all |
| 09:39.25 | Kirov_ | allo |
| 09:43.17 | AnduinLothar | so, i made ArcanePartyBars work in raids... someone said they'd write the database and parsing to make it fetch events from the chat log... only I forgot who.. |
| 09:44.58 | AnduinLothar | cladhaire, maybe? |
| 09:45.09 | AnduinLothar | nah, doesn't sounds liek him... |
| 09:45.24 | AnduinLothar | hmmm |
| 09:45.27 | AnduinLothar | ~logs |
| 09:45.30 | purl | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 09:46.57 | AnduinLothar | hmm, needs a way to search them.. |
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| 10:43.55 | wereHamster | can someone else confirm that UnitInParty("player") returns nil when you're in a raid? |
| 10:48.33 | Kirov_ | Yep |
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| 11:20.28 | zinor | i dont suppose someone here comes from a line of well educated doctors? google isnt answering a question :) |
| 11:20.39 | Corrodias | i've been to a doctor before |
| 11:21.00 | Corrodias | they don't know as much as they'd like you to think |
| 11:21.26 | zinor | :s |
| 11:25.49 | Wobin | what do you need to know, zinor? |
| 11:26.05 | zinor | know anything about kidney stones? |
| 11:26.14 | Corrodias | i think they're supposed to hurt. |
| 11:26.30 | zinor | im trying to figure out if thats what I have or if I need to go to the Dr :s |
| 11:26.30 | Wobin | not too much apart from general concepts |
| 11:26.34 | Wobin | ah |
| 11:26.42 | Wobin | "or if"? |
| 11:26.54 | Wobin | I would go have a checkup anyway |
| 11:27.03 | Wobin | Easier to find out that way, than the hard way |
| 11:27.06 | zenzelezz | sounds safer to see a doctor |
| 11:27.08 | zinor | well the problem is |
| 11:27.21 | zinor | im not a citizen here, so i wouldnt know.,.. where to go.. what to do.. etc. :) |
| 11:27.31 | zinor | and im not really a dr person |
| 11:27.43 | zinor | usually if im sick i wear it off, i go to the dr like once every 6 years :s |
| 11:28.13 | Wobin | a GP should be able to refer you for ultrasound or something to see if you have kidneystones |
| 11:28.22 | Corrodias | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidney_stone |
| 11:28.32 | zinor | ya i checked webmd, didnt think about wiki |
| 11:28.37 | Wobin | Otherwise you could drink lots of cranberry juice and hope for the best =P |
| 11:29.11 | zinor | ok thats probably what it is |
| 11:29.17 | zinor | is it common for younger people to get them? |
| 11:29.21 | zinor | i know my parents have had them at times |
| 11:29.29 | Wobin | not that I know of |
| 11:29.36 | Corrodias | "In 271 or 270 BCE, the Greek Philosopher Epicurus died from a kidney stone blockage lasting a fortnight according to his successor Hermarchus and reported by his biographer Diogenes Laertius." |
| 11:29.41 | Corrodias | you're going to die. |
| 11:29.46 | Corrodias | give me your stuff. |
| 11:29.48 | Wobin | (in that I've never experienced anyone under 50 getting them...) |
| 11:30.07 | zinor | haha |
| 11:31.55 | Corrodias | boy, that would suck |
| 11:32.08 | zinor | ya |
| 11:32.12 | zinor | ok well |
| 11:32.16 | zinor | wiki explains better |
| 11:32.20 | Corrodias | dying from a urinary tract blockage and possibly infection, probably resulting in bursting |
| 11:35.12 | esp|Syn | exploding would have been a more impacting word |
| 11:41.13 | Corrodias | well. the movie i was hoping to watch is, as i apparently forgot to check on after downloading it, in spanish. |
| 11:42.23 | esp|Syn | unlucky |
| 11:42.34 | esp|Syn | time to brush up on some spanish lessons then eh |
| 11:42.54 | esp|Syn | i downloaded a film once |
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| 11:42.58 | esp|Syn | and it was upside down :/ |
| 11:43.13 | Corrodias | lol |
| 11:43.31 | esp|Syn | ended up turning the screen upside down |
| 11:43.38 | Corrodias | it's going to take a while to download replacements, which means i'm stuck with nothing to do for an hour and a half. |
| 11:43.51 | esp|Syn | You could make a ui mod |
| 11:45.01 | esp|Syn | wow |
| 11:45.15 | esp|Syn | in the last 24 hours my two mods have racked up a download total of 775 |
| 11:46.22 | Corrodias | i don't have an active WoW account, and haven't for 6 months |
| 11:49.00 | esp|Syn | why u in here then :O |
| 11:49.25 | Kirov_ | esp|Syn - I keep forgetting to ask, what are your two mods? |
| 11:50.11 | esp|Syn | One is Horde Tracking system - Basically just allows you to report location of targets enemys into one of many channels, and logs all PvP deaths/duel loss's |
| 11:50.48 | Corrodias | i like the conversations in here |
| 11:50.48 | esp|Syn | the other simply displays how much reputation you need to "level" your standing or how many runecloth quests are needed |
| 11:51.15 | Kirov_ | hmm |
| 11:51.26 | Kirov_ | The first one is a mod called WatchTower that used to be super popular |
| 11:51.57 | esp|Syn | really isnt its called hts |
| 11:56.25 | esp|Syn | currently trying to convert this ingame notepad to allow hyperlinks ( you know.. items and stuffz) |
| 11:59.42 | Wobin | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/eagleseye_rats/cats/July15098.jpg |
| 12:01.00 | esp|Syn | random.. |
| 12:17.48 | Kirov_ | night all |
| 12:23.25 | esp|Syn | night... its 1pm.. |
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| 12:32.59 | esp|Syn | anyone else watch house? |
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| 12:41.00 | kaso| | esp|Syn its always night when people leave the channel, and its alway morning when they arrive :> |
| 12:41.41 | kaso| | ~fST |
| 12:42.03 | kaso| | hmm, im sure purl has a entry for it somewhere, cant remeber the keyword |
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| 12:51.32 | esp|Syn | who ownes ui.worldofwar.net? |
| 12:51.44 | Kirkburn | Rushster |
| 12:51.56 | esp|Syn | did he code it? |
| 12:52.09 | Kirkburn | Most, afaik |
| 12:52.23 | esp|Syn | Ok, i need to contact him about stuff then |
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| 13:05.05 | TeBeCo | lu |
| 13:06.09 | TeBeCo | ya qqun ? |
| 13:06.29 | Kirkburn1 | huh? |
| 13:06.42 | TeBeCo | are there anyone who doesn't sleep ? |
| 13:07.00 | TeBeCo | i'm looking for guides on addon's creation |
| 13:07.04 | Kirkburn | Only the insane and undead :) |
| 13:07.41 | Kirkburn | Have you looked at the wowwiki? |
| 13:07.53 | TeBeCo | that mean's ? (soory i'm french, have some troubles of trads ^^) |
| 13:07.59 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Interface_Customization |
| 13:08.15 | TeBeCo | Kirkburn> found lots of description of API, Hook, call but not guides for now |
| 13:08.44 | wereHamster | can I access 'this' in anonymous frames? |
| 13:09.03 | wereHamster | .. in the script handlers of anonyous frames |
| 13:09.36 | Kirkburn | TeBeCo, I would suggest looking at the 'tutorials' on that page, and look at a few addons that people have made |
| 13:10.55 | TeBeCo | Kirkburn> that's what i'm doing, but i came here if anyone of you know a URL, that's the best you ever seen |
| 13:11.13 | TeBeCo | Kirkburn> some tuto are better than other that's why I ask before :) |
| 13:11.32 | Kirkburn | :) I can't think of any others at the moment - anyone else know any guides? |
| 13:11.56 | Tain | Isn't there a Blizzard tutorial? |
| 13:12.33 | Kirkburn | http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01669p |
| 13:12.55 | Kirkburn | (^ the blizzard tutorial comes with that) |
| 13:13.22 | Kirkburn | This page is also useful - lots of URLs for you: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_FAQ/AddOn_Author_Resources |
| 13:15.04 | Mikk | wereHamster: Yes you can |
| 13:15.39 | Corrodias | to learn how to make addons... a simple tutorial and then exmaining examples with the wiki and lua documentation on hand |
| 13:16.31 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Beginners_Guide has some links also |
| 13:32.07 | TeBeCo | witch editor of lua files you used ti use ? |
| 13:32.54 | Mikk | scythe is good |
| 13:32.57 | Mikk | i use ultraedit |
| 13:33.09 | TeBeCo | ultraedit is time limited no ? |
| 13:33.25 | Mikk | aye |
| 13:33.41 | Mikk | hmm no not scythe. SciTE |
| 13:33.49 | Mikk | it's up on http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_editors |
| 13:34.05 | TeBeCo | Mikk> yes i'm looking for it onto the same page |
| 13:34.13 | TeBeCo | you said => |
| 13:34.13 | TeBeCo | <Mikk> i use ultraedit |
| 13:34.15 | TeBeCo | ... |
| 13:34.59 | Mikk | yes? |
| 13:35.22 | Tain | There's a preconfigured SciTE package specifically for WoW here. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4989 |
| 13:36.19 | TeBeCo | what's the doifference between those 2 => |
| 13:36.28 | TeBeCo | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4989 |
| 13:36.29 | TeBeCo | and |
| 13:36.29 | TeBeCo | http://www.wowguru.com/ui/61/wow-scite-lua/ |
| 13:37.04 | Tain | Dunno, I don't go to wowguru. |
| 13:37.13 | Tain | I know the person who put together the wowinterface package, and trust him. |
| 13:37.49 | Mikk | I added a link to clad's SciTe too now |
| 13:38.05 | Mikk | Might make it the main link later but not as long as he's calling it a beta release =) |
| 13:38.30 | Tain | I'm not saying that wowguru would intentionally distribute malicious software. But I know wowinterface wouldn't! |
| 13:39.11 | TeBeCo | xD |
| 13:40.11 | TeBeCo | it's quite difficult to understand the proper sense for french people :) (and i think you have some troubles too to understand what i'm saying) |
| 13:42.30 | Kaso | Did Soluken say anything about the possibility of added whisper to SendAddonMessage on US forums? |
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| 14:24.33 | Mery | yes kaso, "No, whisper addon communication isn't encouraged." |
| 14:24.45 | Kaso | hokay |
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| 14:44.15 | Elkano | and that had been bad news since there also is no global channel possible to propagate item links :/ |
| 14:49.00 | wereHamster | when is 'MAIL_FAILED' fired? |
| 14:50.02 | wereHamster | it's fired every time I send a mail, even if its successful.. |
| 14:57.29 | esp|Syn | gah |
| 14:57.36 | esp|Syn | i HATE x y co-ords :( |
| 14:57.45 | esp|Syn | X vertical Y horizontal? |
| 14:58.14 | Elkano | yes |
| 14:58.17 | esp|Syn | hrm oki |
| 14:58.17 | Elkano | no |
| 14:58.24 | esp|Syn | erm |
| 14:58.36 | Elkano | upwards is y, to the right is x |
| 14:58.48 | esp|Syn | y vertical x horizontal |
| 14:58.53 | Elkano | origin (for WoW) is bottomleft |
| 15:00.35 | esp|Syn | gah |
| 15:00.47 | esp|Syn | i think im trying to place it in the wrong place in the xml :/ |
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| 15:16.07 | esp|Syn | if i wana add a editbox into a frame |
| 15:18.30 | esp|Syn | where would i place it? |
| 15:18.33 | esp|Syn | in what section? |
| 15:24.58 | wereHamster | under <Frames> |
| 15:36.11 | esp|Syn | nm i got it |
| 15:36.21 | esp|Syn | i missed a section from the editbox thats all |
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| 15:43.46 | Thrae|Away | If anyone could comment on this thread if they know what's going on ... http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1699.0.html |
| 15:45.31 | wereHamster | Thrae|Away, what exactly doesn't work? |
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| 15:59.59 | Kirkburn | I'm a bit confused ... seems D2 doesn't need the CD to play - despite the fact that there are 'no-cd' patches on the net |
| 16:00.33 | Mikk | needs it for online play perhaps? o.O |
| 16:00.45 | Mikk | unless perhaps you got hold of a nicely prepatched version =) |
| 16:10.52 | Kirkburn | True, I do have the LoD image on Alcohol atm, perhaps that's what's doing it |
| 16:12.15 | Kirkburn | Between Daemon Tools and Alcohol 120 - is there much difference? |
| 16:23.13 | Mikk | Never used alcohol so I wouldn't know |
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| 16:23.35 | Mikk | s/alcohol/Alcohol/ |
| 16:23.48 | Mikk | important difference in capitalization there :P |
| 16:29.24 | esp|Syn | fucking spambots in wow now |
| 16:30.52 | Mikk | i predict that before long there will be a distributed spam recognition addon |
| 16:31.22 | Mikk | the precedent is already there in e-mail |
| 16:31.44 | Mikk | fook, i've even written a distributed spam recognition system. i'm half tempted to do the same for wow :-P |
| 16:31.59 | Mikk | except I have too many unfinished projects already >.< |
| 16:34.18 | esp|Syn | Its a bot |
| 16:34.26 | esp|Syn | to spam these "gold selling websites" |
| 16:34.32 | esp|Syn | Pm's all on the /who |
| 16:34.40 | esp|Syn | or just repeats an advert over and over |
| 16:34.59 | Mikk | aye. a spam recognizer would trigger after the first handful of people were spammed and suppress it for everyone else |
| 16:35.21 | esp|Syn | i think. they should just remove the characters ability to write |
| 16:35.42 | esp|Syn | but make them think they can. if its a bot they wont notice. and they will still be paying the monthly fee :D |
| 16:35.57 | Mikk | isn't that what I just said? =) |
| 16:36.08 | Mikk | oh, if blizzard found out |
| 16:36.13 | Mikk | yeah they should =) |
| 16:36.40 | Mikk | all characters present on the account and any characters created in the future |
| 16:37.07 | Mikk | seriously though.. report it if you haven't already |
| 16:37.12 | esp|Syn | crap |
| 16:37.15 | esp|Syn | its a trial account |
| 16:37.19 | Mikk | gah |
| 16:37.26 | esp|Syn | i have reported it |
| 16:37.47 | esp|Syn | they should start forcing poeple to provide Creditcard details for trial accounts |
| 16:38.06 | Mikk | do we even need trial accounts these days? |
| 16:38.17 | esp|Syn | People still wana try before they buy |
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| 16:38.35 | esp|Syn | but tbh no.. they hardly need a huge ammount of new members |
| 16:38.49 | esp|Syn | so they can do without the people who wouldnt pay for a month to try it |
| 16:42.36 | esp|Syn | bah |
| 16:42.52 | esp|Syn | "i assure you we will look into it" is the reply |
| 16:43.08 | Mikk | so? they probably will =P |
| 16:43.46 | esp|Syn | they have |
| 16:43.50 | esp|Syn | guys gone now :) |
| 16:45.39 | esp|Syn | hehe there so professional :D |
| 16:45.54 | Mikk | You know.... when you're writing constant tables nested 8+ levels deep, you really really wouldn't mind if you were actually coding in Python >.< |
| 17:14.31 | esp|Syn | whats the script function that does /console reloadui? |
| 17:15.21 | esp|Syn | nm |
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| 18:39.01 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 18:55.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | <esp|Syn> whats the script function that does /console reloadui? |
| 18:55.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | quick! what's the number for 911?! |
| 18:55.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
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| 19:14.28 | RelSleep | Heya |
| 19:14.56 | RelSleep | how do I unload ALL the UI? including blizzards |
| 19:18.17 | Mikk | Well.. I can tell you how to unload all the Lua code |
| 19:18.22 | Mikk | The frames won't go away though |
| 19:18.59 | RelSleep | I know there are mods that change EVERYTHING in the UI, almost as if the build it from scratch |
| 19:19.07 | Mikk | local G=getfenv(); for k,_ in pairs(G) do G[k]=nil; end |
| 19:19.21 | Mikk | But I strongly recommend against this =) |
| 19:19.27 | RelSleep | y? |
| 19:19.36 | Mikk | Even mods that appear to replace everything, don't. |
| 19:19.49 | Mikk | If you did, bloody no mods at all would work in your new framework. |
| 19:19.58 | RelSleep | so what do they do? just hide the original? |
| 19:20.02 | Mikk | Mostly yeah |
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| 19:21.01 | Mikk | And probably hooking some of Blizzard's standard code to have their own UI stuff respond to things that'd otherwise result in Blizzard UI stuff popping up |
| 19:22.05 | RelSleep | hmm |
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| 19:22.58 | Kirkburn | Woo, just got Diablo to kill now :D |
| 19:29.05 | Kirkburn | Haha ... poor guy :) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9088719 |
| 19:30.26 | Kirkburn | (related screenshot: http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m33/Runzhouse/WoWScrnShot_071606_133902.jpg) |
| 19:31.58 | Elkano | he uses titan -> it's a fake ;) |
| 19:32.24 | Shadowed | Whats that "Class Armor" thing below it? |
| 19:33.18 | Elkano | hmm... informant? |
| 19:37.05 | Kirkburn | haha |
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| 19:45.02 | Kirkburn | Ah wow, I've found the coolest program ever! |
| 19:45.31 | Kirkburn | Play on your desktop :) http://www.souptoys.com/ |
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| 19:50.26 | esp|Syn | if that is fake |
| 19:50.31 | esp|Syn | its a damn good fake |
| 19:50.53 | Shadowed | it wouldn't take much to fake |
| 19:51.17 | esp|Syn | I meant the image |
| 19:51.23 | esp|Syn | if its photoshoped |
| 19:51.25 | Shadowed | yeah the idol of brut one |
| 19:51.26 | esp|Syn | the guys good |
| 19:51.42 | Shadowed | i'm not sure why he would photoshop it when he could spend like 5 hours less doing it through the API though |
| 19:51.47 | Elkano | I just wonder if box loot didn't have the box as icon |
| 19:51.57 | Mikk | It doesn't |
| 19:52.03 | Elkano | it should :/ |
| 19:52.04 | Mikk | All lootframes have the skull |
| 19:52.13 | Elkano | blame blizzard :/ |
| 19:52.13 | Mikk | Aye, my raid loot handler changes the icons =) |
| 19:52.26 | Mikk | Flower, Rock, Box... |
| 19:52.32 | Mikk | Magic Powder =) |
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| 19:54.00 | Mikk | Speaking of which... is there any sane way of cutting out a nonrectangular section of a texture to display? |
| 19:54.27 | Mikk | And I don't mean the 8-arg variant of SetTexCoord |
| 19:54.44 | krka | that's the only way |
| 19:54.47 | Mikk | Like... umm i dunno.. applying an alpha channel? |
| 19:54.56 | Elkano | hmm... alpha textures only work with minimap, don't they? |
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| 19:55.33 | Mikk | I could of course just go cut out the images in this particular case. |
| 19:55.37 | Mikk | Make them round |
| 19:55.46 | Mikk | It's just so ... umm... nonprogrammery =) |
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| 20:00.52 | esp|Syn | ok sorted that |
| 20:01.06 | esp|Syn | now have a notepad you can save and load |
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| 20:02.54 | esp|Syn | just need to work out how to add hyperlinks :D |
| 20:04.33 | Mikk | just paste an item link |
| 20:04.35 | Mikk | should be auto |
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| 20:06.11 | esp|Syn | nope |
| 20:08.27 | Mikk | GetsomethingLink()... insert that text |
| 20:08.54 | Mikk | that's what I meant by pasting |
| 20:11.58 | Mikk | if you want to steal clicks on stuff in chat, you want to check out SetItemRef() in FrameXML/ItemRef.lua |
| 20:12.52 | Mikk | You basically want to just hook it, and do what it already does for the chatframe editbox, except probably looking at if your notepad window is visible, and has edit focus |
| 20:14.39 | Ktwombley | is there a reference I can look into to see what events I have to hook into in order to detect when something happens? Like say I want to know when a trade is completed. |
| 20:15.16 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events |
| 20:16.04 | Ktwombley | thanks. |
| 20:16.10 | Ktwombley | i'm sure I'll have more questions later. |
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| 20:18.17 | Ktwombley | was the TRADE_REQUEST event removed or not? |
| 20:18.52 | Mikk | Dno? Find out and fix the wiki =) |
| 20:19.25 | Ktwombley | while I appreciate the attitude, I run a wiki myself, I don't think I'm currently in a position to find out. |
| 20:21.23 | Kirkburn | Why might it have been removed? |
| 20:22.00 | Mikk | hehe |
| 20:22.05 | Mikk | i've even commented on it |
| 20:22.09 | Mikk | "wtf is this comment?" |
| 20:22.09 | Mikk | =) |
| 20:22.51 | Shadowed | lol |
| 20:23.01 | Kirkburn | So I see... |
| 20:23.10 | Shadowed | sec i'll go find out |
| 20:23.17 | Kirkburn | I think it can be removed |
| 20:23.27 | Kirkburn | It's obvious it's in the wrong place |
| 20:24.15 | Shadowed | doesn't look like it works |
| 20:24.25 | Ktwombley | so in order to watch for events, I'd have to watch for fired events and also possibly override some dispatch functions, eh? |
| 20:25.04 | Mikk | correct |
| 20:25.12 | Ktwombley | sweet |
| 20:25.39 | Shadowed | Mikk: It didn't trigger when I opened a trade or someone else did for me |
| 20:26.09 | Mikk | O.O |
| 20:26.11 | Kirkburn | (ah, wait, I misread it) |
| 20:27.09 | Mikk | Shadowed: Are you certain? There HAS to be an event that fires when trade starts |
| 20:27.20 | Mikk | Maybe just TRADE_UPDATE... |
| 20:28.01 | Shadowed | Mikk: Registered TRADE_REQUEST and it didn't fire for me at least, probably want to do some more testing but that one didn't seem to work |
| 20:28.33 | Mikk | owait |
| 20:28.35 | Mikk | TRADE_SHOW |
| 20:28.58 | Mikk | I remember now, I think |
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| 20:29.07 | Mikk | Didn't there use to be a confirmation step before the trade window opened? |
| 20:29.13 | Mikk | Like way back? |
| 20:29.40 | Shadowed | dont think so |
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| 20:30.33 | Mikk | Because in FrameXML, TRADE_REQUEST pops up a simple static dialog |
| 20:30.46 | Mikk | TRADE_SHOW pops up the trade frame |
| 20:30.48 | Shadowed | Weird |
| 20:31.04 | Shadowed | Mikk: Maybe check if it's fired when you have trades disabled? |
| 20:31.14 | Mikk | was thinking that |
| 20:31.17 | Mikk | i'm on the wrong server atm though |
| 20:31.29 | Mikk | lvl 1 nub |
| 20:31.35 | Mikk | and i'm not going to run around chasing other nubs =) |
| 20:32.07 | Mikk | besides, my gf wants to watch Lost. i'm going to have to oblige ;) |
| 20:32.15 | Shadowed | where do you see TRADE_REQUEST? |
| 20:33.01 | Shadowed | I don't see it used in any LUA or XML file except GlobalStrings |
| 20:33.32 | Shadowed | oh wait, UIParent.lua duh |
| 20:34.56 | Shadowed | According to TRADE_REQUEST it's basically as you said. It pops up a dialog box asking if you want to trade with the person, so I guess TRADE_REQUEST_CANCEL is used when the player thats trading youu cancels it or you do. |
| 20:38.48 | esp|Syn | im guessing the hook to replace the skull on targets with there actual level, dosnt work anymore? |
| 20:38.55 | Shadowed | nope |
| 20:41.09 | esp|Syn | is that nope it dosnt work |
| 20:41.11 | esp|Syn | or nope it still works |
| 20:41.40 | Shadowed | As in UnitLevel no longer returns the level if you can't see it |
| 20:41.52 | Shadowed | so no, it doesn't work |
| 20:41.55 | esp|Syn | oki |
| 20:42.01 | esp|Syn | just reading the wiki thats all |
| 20:42.34 | Shadowed | hmm, it still says it does? |
| 20:44.58 | esp|Syn | just a How to |
| 20:45.01 | esp|Syn | on hooking functions |
| 20:45.35 | Shadowed | can you link it? |
| 20:45.44 | esp|Syn | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_a_Function |
| 20:46.15 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 20:57.58 | esp|Syn | L |
| 20:57.59 | esp|Syn | O |
| 20:57.59 | esp|Syn | L |
| 20:58.06 | esp|Syn | lucky sonofabitch |
| 20:58.28 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 20:58.32 | esp|Syn | some guy speeding down the road, looks out the windows and misses the lights go red |
| 20:58.51 | esp|Syn | so he runs the red light, into a truck crossing infront of him |
| 20:58.58 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 20:59.11 | esp|Syn | his car goes UNDER the damn lorry |
| 20:59.11 | Kirkburn | intact?? |
| 20:59.12 | esp|Syn | not a touch on the lorry |
| 20:59.15 | Kirkburn | wow |
| 20:59.24 | esp|Syn | like i said |
| 20:59.25 | esp|Syn | lucky! |
| 20:59.48 | Kirkburn | Somewhat! |
| 21:00.02 | esp|Syn | yep |
| 21:00.10 | esp|Syn | but then he got hit by the bus in the next lane |
| 21:00.15 | esp|Syn | but ya know.. shit happens |
| 21:00.31 | esp|Syn | still. all survived and such |
| 21:00.32 | krka | damn it, my nvidia stuff is fubar :/ |
| 21:02.19 | Kirkburn | How so? |
| 21:02.41 | krka | not exactly sure, some version mismatch between the x module and the kernel module |
| 21:02.46 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 21:02.50 | krka | can't figure out how to get the x module up to date |
| 21:02.57 | Kirkburn | Reinstall the drivers? |
| 21:03.26 | Kirkburn | God's answer to all problems |
| 21:03.33 | Kirkburn | I'm on 91.33 :) |
| 21:03.56 | krka | i've tried all sorts of reinstallings :/ |
| 21:04.43 | Kirkburn | ooh err |
| 21:05.11 | Kirkburn | Using driver cleaner? |
| 21:06.14 | Kirkburn | Haha, I accidently switched my Scrubs DVD to french :P |
| 21:07.32 | krka | driver cleaner? O_o |
| 21:14.45 | esp|Syn | you know i wish i knew what i was doing here :/ |
| 21:27.52 | esp|Syn | Ok so when i hook a function with args |
| 21:28.03 | esp|Syn | do i need to define the args when doing the OnLoad |
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| 21:34.02 | Kirkburn | esp|Syn, it's a sunday - don't expect answers :P |
| 21:36.05 | MentalPower | what was thequestion? |
| 21:36.32 | esp|Syn | dnt matter ill try it both ways :P |
| 21:36.59 | esp|Syn | Ok new question |
| 21:37.12 | esp|Syn | when hooking a function |
| 21:37.48 | esp|Syn | i want to add a second check into an exsisting if loop |
| 21:37.52 | esp|Syn | how can i do that? |
| 21:39.09 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.17 | esp|Syn | yes |
| 21:40.24 | MentalPower | other than re-writing the original function in your hook to include that extra conditional, you can't |
| 21:40.56 | esp|Syn | thats easy |
| 21:41.00 | esp|Syn | copy paste addin |
| 21:42.23 | esp|Syn | ive written a addon that allows a notepad ingame, and i wana be able to shift click a item hyperlink to add it to the notepad |
| 21:43.38 | esp|Syn | and the original function has a check for shift-click when chatframeeditbox is visible. i just wanted to add a elseif mymod:visible blah |
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| 22:04.44 | esp|Syn | hrm |
| 22:04.54 | esp|Syn | why isnt ui worldofwar working? |
| 22:06.06 | gnorlish | it is |
| 22:06.20 | esp|Syn | is now |
| 22:06.26 | esp|Syn | wasnt for a sec |
| 22:06.32 | Shadowed | /roll 100 |
| 22:06.34 | Shadowed | <50 = down |
| 22:06.37 | Shadowed | >=50 = up |
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| 22:07.52 | Wobin | Shadowed: Why not just /roll 2? =P |
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| 22:09.29 | Shadowed | Wobin: Thats less complex |
| 22:09.59 | esp|Syn | Ok lootlink does it |
| 22:10.02 | esp|Syn | lets take a look at that |
| 22:11.08 | Mery | because the way shadowed defined it its 51% up and 49% down so /roll 2 is not the same |
| 22:11.33 | Shadowed | if it's 50/50 people will complain |
| 22:11.36 | Shadowed | so it's not technically 50/50! |
| 22:14.01 | esp|Syn | ok.. give me some idea's here guys |
| 22:14.16 | esp|Syn | how can i get add itemlinks into my editbox/ |
| 22:21.21 | esp|Syn | ye, me neither |
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| 23:04.21 | zespri | MentalPower |
| 23:04.26 | zespri | are you there? |
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| 23:13.13 | zespri | is there any difference where to call StartMoving in OnDragStart or in OnMouseDown? |
| 23:13.52 | AnduinLothar | OnDragStart starts after draging your mouse about 1/3 of an inch |
| 23:14.11 | MentalPower__ | well, ondragstart guarantees that the frame... what AnduinLothar said :) |
| 23:14.28 | AnduinLothar | but OnMouseDown conflicts with OnClick sometimes |
| 23:14.33 | Mikk | esp|Syn: MyEditBox:SetText(GetInventoryItemLink("player",1)) |
| 23:14.43 | Mikk | AnduinLothar: conflicts? |
| 23:15.21 | AnduinLothar | if you need to use OnClick for spell casting ont he same frame it's easier to use OnDragStart |
| 23:15.29 | Mikk | ah |
| 23:16.00 | AnduinLothar | tho i have a hax combo in ChatBar that uses all 3 |
| 23:16.06 | esp|Syn | Mikk wouldnt that only return a link in inventory? |
| 23:16.10 | Mikk | yes |
| 23:16.27 | Mikk | that "link" that is returned is the same one that's in SetItemRef's arguments |
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| 23:16.58 | Mikk | just hook setitemref, test if the link is an item, test if shift is down, test if your editbox is open (and has focus?), if so, add the link to it |
| 23:17.01 | Mikk | the link is just a string |
| 23:17.26 | AnduinLothar | it uses OnMouseDown to get the cursor position relative to the frame, triggers dragging on OnDragStart and uses OnUpdate to update the position so that the cursor isn't half an inch off the frame |
| 23:17.58 | AnduinLothar | it's leet |
| 23:18.22 | Kirov | AnduinLothar - for what? |
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| 23:18.29 | Kirov | Sounds like something I'm about to do |
| 23:18.30 | Kirov | heh |
| 23:18.43 | esp|Syn | ok Mikk that made no sence to me sorry |
| 23:19.22 | AnduinLothar | lets you cast on OnClick and not have the cursor a million miles from the frame, which is common when using StartDrag on OnDragStart |
| 23:19.36 | Kirov | ah |
| 23:20.14 | AnduinLothar | makes it a pain to position things close to the edge of the screen if your cursor isn't directly above the frame |
| 23:20.29 | Mikk | esp|Syn: You want shift clicking on item links to put them in your editbox just like they get put in the chatframe editbox, correct? |
| 23:21.01 | Mikk | This is what you can't get to work? |
| 23:21.15 | esp|Syn | yes |
| 23:21.25 | esp|Syn | and its not so much .. work.. as understand how |
| 23:21.49 | esp|Syn | i mean.. if i COULD insert my check into the one already there.. but i cant apparently |
| 23:22.20 | AnduinLothar | sure you can, jsut do a before hook |
| 23:22.29 | Mikk | local oldSetItemRef = SetItemRef; function SetItemRef(link,text,button) ... test your stuff here and insert link in your editbox .. ; oldSetItemRef(link,text,button); end |
| 23:22.29 | Mikk | done |
| 23:22.47 | esp|Syn | well thats what i was guna do.. |
| 23:22.47 | Mikk | That's a function hook there. |
| 23:22.52 | esp|Syn | but i was told i couldnt .. ill try it |
| 23:23.03 | Mikk | You were asking about inserting an extra line in the middle of an existing function |
| 23:23.05 | Mikk | That's impossible |
| 23:23.14 | AnduinLothar | replace hook |
| 23:23.15 | Mikk | You need to duplicate the checks from SetItemRef in your own function |
| 23:23.32 | Mikk | i.e. 2 or 3 if() statements |
| 23:23.43 | AnduinLothar | but before hooks are more compatible with other hooks |
| 23:24.06 | esp|Syn | cant i just copy paste the entire code ? |
| 23:24.12 | esp|Syn | its not a large ammount |
| 23:24.14 | Mikk | i wouldn't recommend it |
| 23:24.14 | AnduinLothar | not a good idea |
| 23:24.19 | AnduinLothar | that's a replace hook |
| 23:24.25 | esp|Syn | 39 lines |
| 23:24.34 | Mikk | you're also screwing over everyone else hooking setitemref |
| 23:24.35 | AnduinLothar | if you do that then anything that hooks that function before you will break |
| 23:24.38 | esp|Syn | hrm well i just tried my idea and it failed |
| 23:24.56 | Mikk | What you're hooking might be something else entirely |
| 23:25.04 | Mikk | Perhaps some nice little tooltip mod that you'd like to keep working |
| 23:25.13 | esp|Syn | hrm |
| 23:25.20 | Mikk | So you really do want to keep calling the original function |
| 23:25.27 | Mikk | (Which gets stored in oldSetItemRef in my example) |
| 23:26.57 | esp|Syn | http://pastebin.ca/89766 |
| 23:27.22 | Mikk | Two things |
| 23:27.27 | esp|Syn | ya i noticed one |
| 23:27.28 | Mikk | 1. make that "lOriginal" a local |
| 23:27.37 | Mikk | 2. Move your SetItemRef below your function definition |
| 23:27.49 | Mikk | Hyper_SetItemRef is nil at the time you're doing that assignment |
| 23:27.57 | Mikk | or just forget about having a separate name and write it like i showed you |
| 23:28.41 | esp|Syn | uve lost me here |
| 23:28.49 | esp|Syn | the first two line are from my "OnLoad" |
| 23:28.52 | Mikk | ah |
| 23:28.56 | Mikk | you need to say that =P |
| 23:29.04 | esp|Syn | sorry.. i assumed thats where they went |
| 23:29.10 | esp|Syn | i followed the tutorial again :$ |
| 23:29.34 | Mikk | don't insert the text, insert the link |
| 23:29.40 | Mikk | that should do it |
| 23:30.17 | Kirov | http://pastebin.ca/89770 |
| 23:31.28 | esp|Syn | that local goes in my OnLoad? |
| 23:31.32 | esp|Syn | or just above my function? |
| 23:32.48 | esp|Syn | damn |
| 23:34.23 | esp|Syn | didnt work |
| 23:35.01 | Kirov | what does it do? |
| 23:35.20 | esp|Syn | nothing |
| 23:35.30 | esp|Syn | im guessing its not calling right |
| 23:36.47 | Kirov | Try sticking a ChatFrame1:AddMessage() in there or two to see if A) the hook is happening at all and B) if it's going in to your part of the function |
| 23:36.53 | esp|Syn | ignore me a secon |
| 23:36.57 | esp|Syn | im being a moron agan |
| 23:38.00 | esp|Syn | ok no that didnt work either |
| 23:38.18 | Kirov | stick those lines in, see what it's doing |
| 23:41.14 | esp|Syn | ok |
| 23:41.17 | esp|Syn | it dosnt hook |
| 23:41.55 | Mikk | your OnLoad can't be happening then |
| 23:42.02 | esp|Syn | ok checking now |
| 23:43.38 | esp|Syn | odd |
| 23:43.40 | esp|Syn | it dosnt :/ |
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| 23:54.02 | esp|Syn | SetItemRef = Hyper_SetItemRef; -- Hook in ours |
| 23:54.08 | esp|Syn | whats wrong with that? |
| 23:55.28 | AnduinLothar | there definitely needs to be a way to ignore damage meters syncing while in combat |
| 23:55.39 | AnduinLothar | it drops be to like 0 fps |
| 23:56.24 | chuckg | Raid with less tards. Who would sync in combat? :| |
| 23:56.44 | chuckg | Only thing that you might want to do is clear for aggro reset fights, ala: Ouro. |
| 23:57.25 | Mikk | esp|Syn: nothing wrong with that, if the function has been loaded before you do it |
| 23:58.36 | Mikk | which means that the Lua file where the functoin is has to be loaded before the xml file where you're doing the OnLoad call |
| 23:58.55 | Mikk | if you can't manage that, you could move the hook to e.g. VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 23:59.07 | Mikk | or just use direct hooking like i pasted |
| 23:59.18 | Mikk | local oldSetItemRef = SetItemRef; function SetItemRef(link,text,button) ... test your stuff here and insert link in your editbox .. ; oldSetItemRef(link,text,button); end |
| 23:59.34 | Mikk | Ordering can't ever be a problem with that approach. |
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