| 00:04.50 | Kirkburn1 | See ya |
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| 01:54.21 | AnduinLothar | oi.... long week |
| 02:01.22 | AnduinLothar | and yes kirkburn, that's crazy |
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| 02:49.59 | zenzelezz | "[SERVER] The server will be restarted in 15 minutes. Please check www.wow-europe.com forums for more information." |
| 02:50.08 | zenzelezz | fair enough... but I find no info there o_O |
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| 05:34.06 | AnduinLothar | is there a bash block quote? |
| 05:34.12 | AnduinLothar | block comment* |
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| 06:09.36 | ckknight | hey Dolby-wowi |
| 06:09.48 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, no, just use a lot of # deals |
| 06:09.56 | AnduinLothar | :'( |
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| 06:33.17 | ashlie | hi |
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| 06:50.05 | Miravlix | Hacker for dummies, trying for 2+ hours to login as Administrator on a linux system |
| 06:56.54 | Dolby-wowi | lol |
| 07:16.38 | ckknight | hehe, Miravlix |
| 07:17.19 | Miravlix | Someone should have told him to try root. Not that I allow ftp root login |
| 07:18.28 | ckknight | it was ftp? |
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| 08:57.53 | ckknight | http://www.punksandnerds.com/d/0149.html |
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| 12:14.22 | AnduinLothar | Cosmos Patcher v3.9 up, should fix the plethora of windows version issues |
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| 13:33.57 | Kaelten | ello |
| 13:41.43 | Kirkburn | So England v Paraguay, eh |
| 13:42.31 | MoonWolf | burn paraguay. |
| 13:42.55 | MoonWolf | is football chat allowed here Cairenn ? |
| 13:43.04 | Cairenn | of course |
| 14:03.23 | Kirkburn | 1-0 half time :D |
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| 14:09.14 | MoonWolf | who's favour ? |
| 14:11.44 | Kirkburn | You, er, know I'm english right? |
| 14:16.33 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 14:16.36 | Kirkburn | I see we have a new mod on the US forums ... Berghe |
| 14:16.45 | MoonWolf | but not everybody else does |
| 14:16.51 | MoonWolf | thundy replacement ? |
| 14:16.55 | Kirkburn | Oh fine, 1-0 to england :) |
| 14:17.08 | Kirkburn | Thundgot? He's an EU CM |
| 14:17.33 | MoonWolf | im confusing stuff again. |
| 14:17.36 | MoonWolf | the other cm that left. |
| 14:17.37 | MoonWolf | eeuh |
| 14:17.46 | MoonWolf | forgot the name. |
| 14:17.50 | Kirkburn | Tseric is on vacation |
| 14:18.02 | Kirkburn | Fangtooth? Caydiem,? |
| 14:18.15 | MoonWolf | caydiem |
| 14:18.17 | Kirkburn | Moderator though, not CM |
| 14:18.21 | MoonWolf | oh |
| 14:18.24 | MoonWolf | hmm |
| 14:18.27 | MoonWolf | nevermind me |
| 14:18.31 | MoonWolf | im an idiot anyway |
| 14:18.48 | Kirkburn | :D |
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| 14:40.35 | Kirkburn | This is rather good :) http://www.notaddicted.com/wow/zetatheta/talents.php |
| 14:42.39 | MoonWolf | and rather old. |
| 14:43.04 | Kirkburn | :( Well, I've never seen it before |
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| 14:59.23 | Industrial | hai, im back :P |
| 15:03.41 | Industrial | Say, is there someone here who can help me with SetPoint()? I'm trying to move a whole frame - not one point - to some other place on my screen, but I'm not successful at it.. |
| 15:04.41 | Maldivia | Industrial: if it's alreadyt anchored, you should probably call :ClearAllPoints() first |
| 15:04.59 | Industrial | ah right |
| 15:05.39 | Industrial | hurray, thanks |
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| 15:46.37 | cladhaire | krka: THanks for FAIAP |
| 15:46.38 | cladhaire | =) |
| 16:06.44 | Josh|Gone | morning |
| 16:07.23 | Cairenn | hi Josh|Gone |
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| 16:46.09 | Industrial | hey slashdot got a spiffy new theme |
| 16:46.37 | _B | So that it like, doesn't look complete crap? |
| 16:46.58 | _B | Wow, semantic markup as well |
| 16:47.22 | _B | Almost |
| 16:47.39 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:53.52 | Kirkburn | Wow, freaky ... http://www.johnsadowski.com.nyud.net:8080/big_spanish_castle.html |
| 16:54.27 | Kirkburn | Wow, Slashdot actually looks reasonable now |
| 16:55.35 | Kirkburn | It's odd, though, for such a popular site, it really doesn't seem well supported behind the scenes |
| 16:57.20 | MoonWolf | most complicated moderating system ever. |
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| 17:05.40 | Legorol | Kirkburn: that image is absolutely awesome! |
| 17:08.06 | Kirkburn | aye, tis true |
| 17:09.49 | Legorol | has anyone here tried to download the 64-bit version of the Beta 2 of Vista? |
| 17:09.57 | Legorol | whenever I try, i just get a 13.7 Mb ISO image |
| 17:10.01 | Legorol | that seems a tad bit small |
| 17:10.17 | Kirkburn | lol, you're not the only one |
| 17:10.26 | Kirkburn | You just have to wait until it calms down a bit |
| 17:10.28 | Legorol | good, so it's not my download manager or something |
| 17:10.41 | Legorol | but that's the file i get both with my download manager and with microsoft's one |
| 17:10.45 | Kirkburn | If MS increase the bandwidth usage for Vista downloads, it'll start to affect the wider internet |
| 17:10.52 | Legorol | lol |
| 17:11.04 | Kirkburn | I'm not joking :) They really said that |
| 17:11.12 | Legorol | i got all 3 gigs of the 32-bit version |
| 17:11.19 | Legorol | but i'd like to try 64 |
| 17:11.39 | Legorol | what i don't get is: if i try to get the 32-bit and there are too many people, i just get an error message |
| 17:11.44 | Kirkburn | Keep trying is all I suggest, or try bittorrent? |
| 17:11.48 | Legorol | with the 64-bit, no error no nothing, just a 13.7 Mb file, every time |
| 17:12.15 | Kirkburn | I've heard lots of people getting the same thing, it's very odd I know |
| 17:12.38 | Legorol | did you manage to download it? |
| 17:12.51 | Legorol | seems like a waste of bandwidth to keep redownloading the same 13 megs |
| 17:13.06 | Kirkburn | Haven't tried, but it's mentioned on Neowin's forums |
| 17:14.04 | Kirkburn | The vote for the new wowwiki icon has turned into an absolute farce :( For about 2 months it's been between a (cool) icon and a 'random' icon (i.e. one that changes every few days). Obviously that in itself makes it a farce. Now, after the voting is about 40-1 to the cool icon, an admin has gone an added *another* .... *sigh* |
| 17:14.47 | Legorol | who are the admins on there anyway.. |
| 17:16.16 | Kirkburn | Fandyllic, D.F.Schmidt, Rustak (owner who never visits), and someone else |
| 17:17.10 | Kirkburn | (ze page of farcical proportions: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Proposed_icon) |
| 17:19.31 | Kirkburn | I'm going for a walk ... see yas later :) |
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| 18:14.35 | sweede | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.37 | sweede | oops |
| 18:31.40 | Kirkburn|Walkies | lol, Sweden drew with Trinidad & Tobago :P |
| 18:38.31 | Kirkburn|Walkies | Cat power!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5067912.stm |
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| 19:02.03 | Maldivia | morning Iriel |
| 19:02.27 | Iriel | hey there |
| 19:07.43 | Maldivia | hmm, Iriel - how much have you looked at the camera console variables? |
| 19:08.00 | Iriel | Not at all, i've never even opened the console in wow |
| 19:08.38 | Maldivia | hmm, ok - was just wondering if there was a variable that changed the focal point of the camera, so the char wasn't in dead-center |
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| 19:41.24 | ckknight | back |
| 19:41.43 | Cairenn | front |
| 19:41.51 | Iriel | I was going to say that |
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| 20:57.34 | Kirkburn1 | Oh, er, alright, I guess the new drivers installed then |
| 20:58.23 | Kirkburn1 | Can anyone remind me how to do nick collisions? |
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| 21:12.38 | ckknight | yea, how do you do nick collisions? |
| 21:12.42 | ckknight | happens to me all the time |
| 21:12.51 | Iriel | I think it's /msg nickserv ghost |
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| 21:13.33 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:13.34 | ckknight | okay |
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| 21:23.55 | Kirkburn | Yeah, what Iriel said :P /msg nickserv ghost <usertokick> <password> |
| 21:39.32 | AnduinLothar | http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/008d4116a9.jpg |
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| 22:15.50 | AnduinLothar | wow... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8442381086256955513 |
| 22:15.52 | AnduinLothar | that is so funny my face still hurts.. |
| 22:24.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any way to get spell cooldown by name? |
| 22:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | GetSpellCooldown(spellID, "bookType") - but spellID is a pretty dynamic number :/ |
| 22:25.54 | Tem | put the spell on an action button |
| 22:26.02 | Tem | those don't change |
| 22:26.15 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 22:45.39 | Kirkburn | AnduinLothar, thanks so much for that link!! |
| 22:46.02 | Kirkburn | My face hurts too now :) |
| 22:46.12 | AnduinLothar | i know huh |
| 22:46.25 | AnduinLothar | drew and the audience were rolling on the floor |
| 22:46.37 | AnduinLothar | and the actors were laughing so hard they couldn't do anythign |
| 22:48.09 | Kirkburn | I really miss that show :( |
| 22:48.53 | AnduinLothar | definitely |
| 22:49.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Color me noob - if (var1 == "a" && var2 == "b") |
| 22:49.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Is it &&, AND, or &? |
| 22:49.26 | AnduinLothar | and |
| 22:49.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Lemme guess, case sensitive? |
| 22:49.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, the one combo I didn't try :) |
| 22:49.46 | AnduinLothar | maybe |
| 22:49.59 | AnduinLothar | all lua keywords are lowercase |
| 22:50.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it's case-sensitive |
| 22:51.11 | AnduinLothar | and or not |
| 22:51.41 | ScytheBlade1 | indeed, ty |
| 22:56.42 | Legorol | Kirkburn: I figured out why my vista 64-bit download is only 13 Mb big |
| 22:56.46 | Legorol | it's all my ISPs fault! |
| 22:56.54 | Legorol | I will do some serious shouting down the phone line on Monday |
| 22:58.58 | Kirkburn | Silly ISP |
| 22:59.09 | Kirkburn | What exactly is going on then? |
| 22:59.14 | Legorol | They silently redirect any HTTP requests going out from your PC to their cache servers |
| 22:59.22 | Legorol | even if on your client end, you have cleared your proxy settings |
| 22:59.39 | AnduinLothar | zomg, dj tiesto with a giant sub is hawt! |
| 22:59.41 | Legorol | result: someone in my geographical area probably started downloading it, then gave up after 13 Mb |
| 22:59.50 | Legorol | ISP's cache now holds that copy |
| 22:59.55 | Legorol | with no way for me to bypass the cache |
| 23:03.45 | AnduinLothar | bet my neighbors are so pissed right now.. |
| 23:03.54 | AnduinLothar | specially the guy bellow me |
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| 23:07.32 | Legorol | question is, do i risk downloading it at my workplace and getting kicked by the admin |
| 23:07.46 | Legorol | 7.3 Mb/sec download rate, 4 gigs down in 8 minutes |
| 23:07.48 | Legorol | tempting... |
| 23:08.05 | Iriel | Can you just add a junk attribute to the URL to create a new cache key? |
| 23:08.14 | Iriel | so whatever.exe?legowashere=1 |
| 23:08.22 | Legorol | not a bad idea, i'll try that |
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| 23:08.54 | Legorol | nope, no effect, but i have an idea |
| 23:09.29 | Iriel | Adding an extra ./ into a path can work sometimes too, so instead of x/y/z you do x/y/./z |
| 23:09.34 | Iriel | it all depends on the cache |
| 23:09.47 | Iriel | Alternate references to the host (IP versus name, alternate names) occasionally work |
| 23:10.15 | Legorol | hmm, there is actually something very strange going on... |
| 23:10.28 | Legorol | in closer examination, it's not the cache (although that could've been an issue too) |
| 23:10.41 | Miravlix_ | tracert svn.cosmosui.org ? |
| 23:10.56 | Legorol | i have just tried this: i set up an ssh tunnel to my workplace, and set up IE to use the tunnel as an HTTP proxy |
| 23:11.06 | Legorol | i have verified it and the packets were coming via the tunnel, |
| 23:11.12 | Legorol | yet the download is still only 13.7 Mb |
| 23:11.13 | Miravlix_ | telnet svn.cosmosui.org 3690 |
| 23:11.22 | Legorol | Miravlix_: i'm not talking about the svn |
| 23:11.23 | Iriel | How do you know the source file isn't 13.7 MB? |
| 23:11.25 | Legorol | vista download |
| 23:11.33 | Legorol | Iriel: it's the 64-bit edition of vista :) |
| 23:11.36 | Iriel | Does the content length header return more than that? |
| 23:11.44 | Iriel | Legorol : It's SUPPOSED to be the 64 bit edition of vista |
| 23:11.45 | Legorol | plus, doing a wget URL at workplace starts downloading 4 gigs |
| 23:11.54 | Legorol | ok, here is what i have: |
| 23:12.00 | Legorol | i ssh into a machine at work |
| 23:12.02 | Iriel | does your workplace and your home resolve the domain to the same IP |
| 23:12.03 | Iriel | ? |
| 23:12.14 | Legorol | hmm, i will check that |
| 23:12.14 | Miravlix_ | most likely not |
| 23:12.17 | Iriel | When you do a wget from HOME, does it start downloading 4GB and stop at 13MB? |
| 23:12.25 | Iriel | Or does it start downloading 13MB |
| 23:12.26 | Miravlix_ | since for a domain like this MS will use a chain of IPS resolving |
| 23:12.28 | Legorol | i don't have wget at home |
| 23:12.33 | Iriel | well, fix that |
| 23:12.37 | Legorol | how? |
| 23:12.41 | Iriel | not installing the tools is no excuse |
| 23:12.41 | Legorol | is there a windows version? |
| 23:12.44 | Legorol | lol |
| 23:12.44 | Iriel | Yes |
| 23:12.50 | Legorol | ok, i will go check IP |
| 23:12.56 | Iriel | or you could just telnet to the damn server and fake a HEAD request 8-) |
| 23:12.57 | Legorol | then maybe get wget ;-) |
| 23:13.00 | Miravlix_ | Cygwin comes with it and it's standalone too I think |
| 23:14.14 | Legorol | hm yeah the IPs are different |
| 23:14.21 | Miravlix_ | What host? |
| 23:14.47 | Miravlix_ | It's most likely because xxx.microsoft.com points to a pool |
| 23:15.18 | Miravlix_ | So has nothing to do with this specifically, unless someone managed to hijack MS DNS somewhere and your downloading a virus |
| 23:17.00 | Legorol | ok, when i do "ping download.windowsvista.com" on my home PC, it always resolves to the same IP |
| 23:17.11 | Legorol | when i do it on the work one, it always resolves toa different IP each time |
| 23:17.18 | Legorol | (home is running WinXP, work is Linux) |
| 23:17.47 | Iriel | that's because you have DNS caches between you and it |
| 23:18.06 | Iriel | just add the work IP to your hosts file |
| 23:18.17 | Miravlix_ | a1391.ms.akamai.net? |
| 23:18.30 | Miravlix_ | Seems to be what I get with ping every time in Windows |
| 23:18.38 | Iriel | akamai use geographic remapping of DNS results too |
| 23:19.07 | Miravlix_ | nslookup only return two addresses for windowsvista.com |
| 23:19.18 | Iriel | I get 7 back |
| 23:19.29 | Iriel | But you're almost certainly hitting a different edge server than I am |
| 23:19.46 | Miravlix_ | Geographic as you said |
| 23:19.53 | Legorol | yeah i'm adding the IP i get at work to hosts |
| 23:19.58 | Miravlix_ | the return value is based on where I am, I only get two |
| 23:20.41 | Iriel | Though there's a whole region behind those two before a request makes it to microsoft (assuming it does, which is unlikely, it's probably already cached in the cluster). |
| 23:21.11 | Iriel | Though that makes Lego's 13MB even more of a problem, if microsoft served up a 13MB file instead of the right one, it'll be nearly impossible to get the right one until akamai's cache expires or is flushed |
| 23:21.43 | Legorol | i have seen others post on various forums saying they are getting exactly the same size (13.7 Mb) |
| 23:21.46 | Iriel | even if he picks a different edge server in the region it would be likely to fetch the file from its peer |
| 23:21.50 | Legorol | so it is possible it's a problem on their end |
| 23:22.00 | Legorol | well the work PC is getting the 4 gigs |
| 23:22.09 | Legorol | so if i try with the same IP it's getting the 4 gigs from, it should work, no? |
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| 23:22.16 | Iriel | as I said, put the IP you get at work into your hosts file as download.windowsvista.com |
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| 23:22.20 | Iriel | then use that |
| 23:22.26 | Legorol | yah, in the process of.. |
| 23:22.39 | Miravlix_ | And hope it actually use hosts |
| 23:22.50 | Miravlix_ | It might for security reasons ignore hosts |
| 23:22.52 | Iriel | I've yet to meet a windows program that doesn't |
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| 23:23.08 | Iriel | you need Administrator rights to edit it |
| 23:23.08 | Miravlix_ | nslookup doesn't I think |
| 23:23.11 | Miravlix_ | ping? |
| 23:23.20 | Iriel | nslookup wouldn't because it's not supposed to |
| 23:23.21 | Miravlix_ | One of those and some others |
| 23:23.25 | Iriel | I meant one that's supposed to use it |
| 23:23.28 | Iriel | ping would |
| 23:23.37 | Legorol | ping is getting the right IP from hosts |
| 23:23.54 | Legorol | still 13.7 |
| 23:23.57 | Legorol | this is crazy |
| 23:24.00 | Iriel | Did you reboot? |
| 23:24.04 | Legorol | not yet :) |
| 23:24.05 | Iriel | IE caches some crazy crap |
| 23:24.15 | Legorol | i cleared all IE caches, but i'll try and reboot |
| 23:24.19 | Iriel | as, likely, does firefox |
| 23:24.34 | Legorol | so far i have: IP in hosts, ssh tunnel to work and all http requests go through that |
| 23:24.46 | Miravlix_ | I fidled with the cables and was about to throw my 30 GB SCSI disk into the garbage can, then I hit the on switch by accident and the freaking disk just worked |
| 23:24.47 | zenzio | my Firefox fetches HOSTS file changes without a reboot, or even closing Firefox |
| 23:25.16 | Iriel | zenzio : Good to know |
| 23:25.21 | Miravlix_ | For 220 days I've tried to make it work, then it end up being a cabling error |
| 23:28.50 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Legorol (i=legorol@cpc2-cmbg6-0-0-cust566.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
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| 23:35.47 | Legorol | ok there's something really screwy going on here |
| 23:35.52 | Legorol | here's what i got: |
| 23:36.00 | Legorol | i have a download manager |
| 23:36.09 | Legorol | when i tell that to go via the ssh tunnel, it starts getting 4 gigs |
| 23:36.17 | Legorol | when i tell it to go direct, it gets 13.7 megs |
| 23:36.32 | Legorol | in IE, when i tell it to go via the ssh tunnel, it only gets 13.7 |
| 23:36.44 | Legorol | and IE also only gets 13.7 if i go direct |
| 23:37.20 | Legorol | i am fairly positive that IE is indeed going via the ssh tunnel when i'm telling it to |
