| 00:00.47 | Qzot | How many "slots" can you fill at once, where a slot might be a combat pet, a non-combat pet, a guardian, etc? |
| 00:02.19 | Qzot | And does anyone know what slots are filled by dragonlings and gnomish battle chickens? |
| 00:08.36 | Iriel | Insulated slots with chicken-wire fronts? |
| 00:09.03 | Qzot | Ahhkay. I go code that right up. |
| 00:09.25 | Qzot | Hippo birdie? |
| 00:10.06 | Iriel | Ironically by being GMT based they're actually more correct than US based ones |
| 00:10.34 | Iriel | I have an RL Age Ding tomorrow (US Calendar) |
| 00:10.53 | Qzot | Hippo birdie two ewes. |
| 00:12.00 | Iriel | thanks |
| 00:13.33 | Cairenn | Hotel Bravo Tango Yankee Iriel |
| 00:14.07 | Kirkburn | Happy birthday! |
| 00:14.37 | Cairenn | 25 now? |
| 00:14.48 | Cairenn | well, tomorrow |
| 00:15.19 | Iriel | 0x22, tomorrow |
| 00:16.03 | Kirkburn | It already is tomorrow |
| 00:16.10 | Iriel | it is THERE, just not HERE |
| 00:16.12 | Cairenn | depends where you are |
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| 00:16.16 | Iriel | my age moves around the planet |
| 00:16.27 | Iriel | I have always wondered what the most appropriate way to handle that is |
| 00:16.28 | Kirkburn | Well travelled, eh |
| 00:16.40 | Iriel | birthplace-relative i'm already older |
| 00:16.44 | Qzot | http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22blood+elf%7Celves%22%2Cdraenei%2Cpandaran&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all |
| 00:16.45 | Iriel | location-relative i'm not |
| 00:17.44 | Kirkburn | Well, as a brit I reserve the right to say happy birthday |
| 00:18.06 | Kirkburn | Uh, it's spelt pandarEn Qzot |
| 00:18.07 | Iriel | Are you a northerner or a southerner? |
| 00:18.10 | Qzot | Reserve, as opposed to exercise? |
| 00:18.25 | Kirkburn | Southerner? |
| 00:18.32 | Abenadi | someone help me with an interface error? Trying to get a slider to change a label with the value of the slider. It *works* but on startup I get: attempt to index global blahblah (a nil value) |
| 00:18.40 | Qzot | Kirkburn: Tnx. |
| 00:18.45 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 00:19.07 | Qzot | That does in fact make the graph more interesting. |
| 00:19.10 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:19.17 | Qzot | I bet Blizz loves those spikes. |
| 00:19.24 | Kirkburn | Same question at you Iriel... |
| 00:19.57 | Kirkburn | Why on earth does Norway come out on top :/ |
| 00:20.46 | Iriel | North, but I dont really discriminate, I just like to see the reaction.. I went to university in Coventry to balance things out |
| 00:20.52 | Kirkburn | What happened at Xmas to make everyone look up Draenei?? |
| 00:21.11 | Iriel | (AT University of Warwick, IN Conventy, it's one of those strange naming things) |
| 00:21.29 | Abenadi | anyone know how to fix that slider problem? |
| 00:21.33 | Kirkburn | I almost went to Warwick |
| 00:21.38 | Kirkburn | Bristol won out though |
| 00:21.55 | Qzot | Kirkburn: Don't know. Time on their hands? |
| 00:22.02 | Iriel | I visited bristol a couple of times |
| 00:22.11 | Iriel | I used to know the entry code to their computer labs |
| 00:22.43 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 00:23.14 | Qzot | Makes no sense at all: http://www.google.com/trends?q=darnassus%2Corgrimmar&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all |
| 00:24.04 | Kirkburn | At least Warwick's a bit flatter than Bristol |
| 00:24.36 | Qzot | zomg! for help |
| 00:24.36 | Kirkburn | Living near the river does wonders for your health though |
| 00:24.48 | Qzot | zomg! http://www.google.com/trends?q=zomg |
| 00:25.04 | Kirkburn | Wow, it's really that new? |
| 00:25.14 | Qzot | Apparently. |
| 00:25.18 | Qzot | Isn't that cool? |
| 00:25.46 | Qzot | Even weirder: http://www.google.com/trends?q=chuck+norris |
| 00:26.03 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:26.17 | Qzot | And completely swamps zomg. |
| 00:26.27 | Abenadi | http://pastebin.com/754673 - someone help me fix an error "attempt to index global [labelname] - a nil value" please... my first interface so i'm a little lost |
| 00:26.40 | Qzot | http://pastebin.com/754673 |
| 00:26.43 | Qzot | ? |
| 00:27.00 | Abenadi | yeah - |
| 00:27.09 | Abenadi | that's my xml code including the script that's giving me the error |
| 00:27.19 | Qzot | Lol. I was just trying to cover my fat-fingering of paste. :D |
| 00:27.29 | Abenadi | : ) |
| 00:27.34 | Kirkburn | http://www.google.com/trends?q=sawbridgeworth ... I guess that shows when the beckhams arrived |
| 00:27.38 | Miravlix | Shouldn't it be Ironforge vs Orgimmar |
| 00:27.43 | Miravlix | The Sides capitols? |
| 00:27.53 | Qzot | Good point. |
| 00:28.11 | Kirkburn | IF wins |
| 00:28.41 | Kirkburn | Apparently no-one looked for orgrimmar until mid-2005 |
| 00:28.45 | Miravlix | Naah, I win, I'm using an IBM ThinkPad 768D to speedup my game machine |
| 00:28.45 | Qzot | That was a given. But why was Orgrimmar not even significant until 2005?? |
| 00:28.50 | coreybif | Got to love google. How new is the trending tool? |
| 00:29.02 | Qzot | Took that long to learn to spell "Orgrimmar"??? |
| 00:29.30 | Miravlix | And it's insanely faster, now I have a squid running on the other machine. |
| 00:30.09 | Kirkburn | It's a close race between red and blue! http://www.google.com/trends?q=blue,+red |
| 00:30.09 | Miravlix | It took close to 20 hours to install Ubuntu. :) |
| 00:30.53 | Kirkburn | However, _this_ is saddening: http://www.google.com/trends?q=noob |
| 00:32.38 | Abenadi | Qzot did you look at the code? |
| 00:32.40 | Qzot | Abenadi: I'm not the UI person here. But either pcFrameRenewPercentCurrentLabel or pcFrameRenewPercentSlider must be nil at startup. Have you code check that and skip if either are nil. |
| 00:33.03 | Qzot | s/you /your / |
| 00:33.18 | Abenadi | I don't understand - they are frame elements |
| 00:33.23 | Abenadi | how can they be nil at startup? |
| 00:33.55 | Qzot | Beats me. |
| 00:33.56 | Qzot | :D |
| 00:34.03 | Abenadi | :( |
| 00:34.11 | Abenadi | who is the UI person here? :D |
| 00:34.47 | Qzot | Anyone but me. |
| 00:35.19 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 00:36.07 | Qzot | Cairenn: Thanks for your help on ManHunt. |
| 00:36.13 | Cairenn | np sweetie |
| 00:37.01 | Abenadi | actually qzot your comment may have helped |
| 00:37.11 | Qzot | Abenadi: I think wowwiki (somehow) has an excruciatingly specific timeline of what happens as an addon loads. |
| 00:37.15 | wereHamster | Abenadi, try to move the 'pcFrameRenewPercentCurrent' frame before 'pcFrameRenewPercentSlider' |
| 00:37.17 | Abenadi | if I change the script to just start with an if(labelname) that probably fixes it |
| 00:37.53 | Qzot | wereHamster: I thought the same thing, but was wondering why loading the xml wouldn't effectively be atomic relative to events. |
| 00:38.31 | Abenadi | i'll try that if I have trouble with my workaround, thanks werehamster |
| 00:39.34 | wereHamster | Qzot, the question is, when are the OnLoad scripts executed? right after the frame is created or after the whole xml-file is loaded.. |
| 00:40.05 | Qzot | wereHunter: Excellent point. |
| 00:40.12 | Qzot | s/Hunter/Hamster/ |
| 00:41.58 | wereHamster | .. and even then, you can't assume that the frames exist before the OnLoad script is executed.. which means that the frame order in the xml-file is important |
| 00:52.19 | Iriel | I can answer that |
| 00:52.24 | Iriel | In more detail than you possibly care about |
| 00:54.17 | Iriel | Stash this link away for now http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Code_Load_Order |
| 00:54.32 | Iriel | Anyway, OnLoad is the LAST thing fired during the setup of a given frame |
| 00:54.47 | Iriel | and it's fired AFTER all of the Frame's children have been finished (i.e. have been created and had their OnLoad's fired) |
| 00:55.21 | Iriel | so if you have FrameA, FrameAChild, and FrameB in the same XML file (where FrameAChild is a child of FrameA) then |
| 00:55.37 | Iriel | the on loads are fired in order FrameAChild, FrameA, FrameB |
| 00:56.17 | Iriel | So an OnLoad handler can assume (A) That all of this's children have been fully created and OnLoad'ed |
| 00:56.39 | Iriel | (B) That this's parent has been instantiated, but that it has NOT been OnLoad'ed |
| 00:57.33 | Iriel | (C) That any siblings of the frame that were declared in a virtual template inherited by its PARENT have been created and OnLoad'ed |
| 00:57.51 | Iriel | (D) That any siblings of the frame declared before it in the XML file have been created and OnLoad'ed |
| 00:58.08 | Iriel | (E) That none of the siblings of the frame declared after it in the XML file have been created or OnLoad'ed |
| 00:58.13 | Iriel | I think that's it |
| 00:59.27 | Iriel | I suspect only QZot really appreciated the answer, and i'm only partly convinced he did 8-) |
| 00:59.42 | Cide | still nice to make sure one understood things correctly :) |
| 01:00.02 | Cide | I'm still waiting for CreateFrame inheritance on test :( |
| 01:01.14 | Cide | it would be nice to get a way to create virtual frames to go along with it, now that they aren't discarded |
| 01:02.05 | Iriel | (Actually, E might not be 100% correct, they may have been instantiated by then, I dont have the results of that test handy) |
| 01:05.11 | Cairenn | Qzot and Iriel, since neither of you are on right now ... pass along congrats to Loriac next time you see him, he got elected dept chair today |
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| 01:12.59 | grimman | Raaar |
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| 01:22.18 | grimman | http://www.smithappens.com/video_kidslearn.php |
| 01:30.34 | ckknight | awesome, grimman |
| 01:30.35 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:30.38 | ckknight | those kids |
| 01:30.56 | grimman | ;) |
| 01:31.34 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBaSWtjSUEU |
| 01:31.52 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/zoidberg-dating2.mp3 |
| 01:35.54 | grimman | <3 Dr. Zoidberg |
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| 02:58.08 | End | hey, Cide, you there? |
| 02:58.21 | Cide | yep |
| 03:00.03 | End | ok, I got a question in just a sec |
| 03:02.40 | End | ok, so does, ctraid rebroadcast info like maintanks everytime some joins the channel right away, or does it wait? |
| 03:02.51 | End | (like, wait a bit, and then broadcast) |
| 03:02.58 | End | how do new members learn who the tanks are? |
| 03:02.59 | Cide | it waits a bit |
| 03:03.11 | End | ok |
| 03:03.12 | Cide | some ~8 seconds I believe |
| 03:03.12 | End | that's good at least |
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| 03:03.36 | End | we were noticing when the channel was getting changed everyone would get a huge bunch of lag |
| 03:03.48 | Cide | which was fixed in 1.536 I believe |
| 03:03.57 | End | wait, that'a a recent change? |
| 03:04.05 | End | I'll just tell everyone to update then :P |
| 03:04.09 | Cide | yep |
| 03:04.17 | End | ok, cool |
| 03:04.36 | End | 4/40 have 1.536 |
| 03:04.45 | End | the rest have a little older |
| 03:05.07 | Cide | yep, everyone needs it, pretty much |
| 03:05.25 | Cide | well, everyone with a character name that comes before the first promoted person in alphabetical order |
| 03:05.55 | End | ah, ok |
| 03:22.45 | Cairenn | so would you guys say the interface changes are more or less extensive for 1.11 than they were for 1.10? |
| 03:24.16 | Tain | I'd say they complete what 1.10 started. Or at least further it a lot. |
| 03:26.10 | End | 1.10 I think had a lot more new stuff |
| 03:27.49 | Cide | 1.10 seemed to break more addons :) |
| 03:28.21 | Tain | 1.10 was more revolutionary, 1.11 more evolutionary based on 1.10. But, the sheer amount of changes in each may well be similar. |
| 03:28.35 | End | yeah |
| 03:28.41 | Cairenn | just trying to figure out how badly we're going to get smacked next week |
| 03:28.48 | End | 1.10's changes were more significant :P |
| 03:28.52 | Cide | do you think it will be this tuesday, Cairenn? |
| 03:29.02 | Cairenn | that's what the little birdy told me |
| 03:29.06 | Cide | aww |
| 03:29.11 | End | shit |
| 03:29.13 | Cairenn | unless something drastic happens between now and then |
| 03:29.14 | Tain | Oh yeah as far as that goes I don't think 1.11 will have anywhere near the impact on existing addons that 1.10 did. |
| 03:29.23 | End | I gotta finish testing then |
| 03:29.26 | zenzelezz | it better be, or the downloader wouldn't have had to preload that ~100 MB yet |
| 03:29.47 | Cairenn | I did tell you guys a couple days ago, soon as the little birdy told me :p |
| 03:30.12 | Tain | I've been busy moving. :( Only one more day of it though. |
| 03:30.13 | Cide | I guess I'll have to pay a visit to the test realms, then |
| 03:30.42 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 03:32.56 | AnduinLothar | omg... i think i've finished... |
| 03:33.09 | AnduinLothar | this project owned my face |
| 03:33.19 | AnduinLothar | like rabid weasels |
| 03:33.22 | Cairenn | ah, but did it melt your face? |
| 03:33.49 | Tain | Only after some strong hallucinogens. |
| 03:34.07 | AnduinLothar | no, but i kinda went: "AAAAaaaahhHHHAHHHAHAHHHHH, GET THE AHAHHHHSAHHHAHHH WEASELS OFF AAAAHHHAHHHAAHHH MY FACE!! AAAAAHHHHH" |
| 03:34.38 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 03:36.02 | AnduinLothar | stupid compilers class |
| 03:36.08 | AnduinLothar | my compilers is haxs |
| 03:36.17 | End | heh |
| 03:37.01 | AnduinLothar | it's so hax that when we have to do function calls ont he stack next week I'm gonna have to rewrite it |
| 03:37.16 | AnduinLothar | cause I'm too leet for stacks this week |
| 03:37.41 | AnduinLothar | that and i failed the class where i was sposed to have learned how all that worked.. |
| 03:38.15 | AnduinLothar | thankfully, she's not even looking at the assembly intermediate code, just the output |
| 03:38.36 | AnduinLothar | and it's a VERY good thing we don't have to optimize |
| 03:38.42 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Mod Dev Discussions. 1.11 PTR up. Happy Birthday Iriel! |
| 03:38.52 | Wobin | omg |
| 03:38.54 | Wobin | woo |
| 03:38.58 | Wobin | Damnit |
| 03:38.59 | Wobin | not here |
| 03:39.00 | AnduinLothar | or i'd probably find the nearest balconey.. |
| 03:39.12 | Cairenn | I'm 20 minutes early for my time zone, but oh well |
| 03:39.22 | AnduinLothar | still friday here.. |
| 03:39.26 | Cairenn | I'm 3 hrs and 20 minutes early for the time zone he's in |
| 03:39.42 | Cairenn | and still "but oh well" |
| 03:42.49 | AnduinLothar | meh... no more coding tonight.. |
| 03:43.01 | AnduinLothar | been doing that damn project for 4 days strait |
| 03:44.57 | AnduinLothar | oh wow... blizzard spotlighted enfos |
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| 03:51.49 | Tain | I'm a bit scared by this. "ParisRiots The official Game of the French Riots" |
| 03:51.57 | Corrodias | it had better be the new version |
| 03:52.33 | Corrodias | i played a version of enfos team survival in which 1) many of the skills had no descriptions at all and 2) i got a character that could do nothing -- including attack -- except heal herself. |
| 04:03.32 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Mod Dev Discussions. 1.11 PTR up. Happy Birthday Iriel! P.S. Dolby is THE MAN! |
| 04:04.01 | Wobin | Why's that? |
| 04:04.07 | Wobin | Not that I do'nt agree, mind you =) |
| 04:04.10 | End | Happy Birthday Iriel! |
| 04:04.11 | End | wait |
| 04:04.13 | End | is Iriel here? |
| 04:04.18 | Cairenn | not at present End |
| 04:04.23 | End | ack |
| 04:06.28 | Wobin | So why is Dolby the Man? |
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| 04:07.08 | Dolby-wowi | I'm not |
| 04:07.11 | Cairenn | hehehhehe |
| 04:07.12 | Cairenn | are so! |
| 04:07.16 | Dolby-wowi | NOT |
| 04:07.23 | Cairenn | WAI! |
| 04:07.30 | AnduinLothar | moo? |
| 04:07.37 | Dolby-wowi | quak |
| 04:07.41 | Cairenn | *purr* |
| 04:07.50 | Wobin | wuf? |
| 04:08.03 | End | waffle |
| 04:08.07 | Wobin | mmm |
| 04:08.14 | Dolby-wowi | bacon |
| 04:08.36 | End | lies, waffle pwns bacon |
| 04:08.43 | Dolby-wowi | yeah i don't know how to change it in trillian |
| 04:09.10 | Wobin | /topic ? |
| 04:09.19 | Cairenn | Wobin: hush! |
| 04:09.25 | Wobin | Sorry! =P |
| 04:09.46 | Dolby-wowi | lol it doesn't work |
| 04:09.51 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 04:09.57 | Cairenn | good, cause you are! |
| 04:10.04 | Dolby-wowi | NOT |
| 04:10.08 | Cairenn | WAI! |
| 04:10.14 | Dolby-wowi | huh? |
| 04:10.37 | Cairenn | "yes way" |
| 04:11.05 | Dolby-wowi | not way |
| 04:11.14 | Cairenn | WAI! |
| 04:11.17 | Dolby-wowi | nai |
| 04:11.23 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 04:13.42 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Mod Dev Discussions. 1.11 PTR up. Happy Birthday Iriel! |
| 04:23.58 | Wobin | Hey Dolby, should I be getting email alerts for comments on bugreports? I can never recall if it's implemented or not |
| 04:27.47 | Dolby-wowi | nope not yet, its on the list though. =) |
| 04:29.29 | Wobin | Cool =) |
| 04:29.39 | Wobin | 's WoWI |
| 04:31.53 | Wobin | hm |
| 04:32.03 | Wobin | in regards to using tinsert(UISpecialFrames,"MainFrameName"); |
| 04:32.12 | Wobin | to register a frame to close on escape |
| 04:32.26 | Wobin | that'll take a frame -object- as an argument, won't it? |
| 04:33.03 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:33.48 | Wobin | cause otherwise '=(' |
| 04:34.33 | Wobin | *sigh* Listening to PinkFloyd's "Is there Anybody Out There" makes me want to go buy a guitar, cause mine's at home =P |
| 04:40.11 | Wobin | bugger =\ |
| 04:44.51 | grimman | hehe, I was listening to Pink Floyed earlier. =) |
| 04:44.59 | Wobin | Cairenn: dya know of any particular thread I should put a request in for a feature implementation? |
| 04:45.17 | Wobin | ie the Concise Changes for 1.11 thread? |
| 04:45.48 | Cairenn | I'd suggest starting your own, put "Slouken" in the title |
| 04:46.02 | Wobin | k |
| 04:46.08 | Cairenn | if it's going live next week as planned, it'll be frozen already so no point in putting it in the 1.11 thread |
| 04:46.27 | Cairenn | Slouken: API Request, or some such |
| 04:46.39 | AnduinLothar | be more specific |
| 04:46.59 | Cairenn | well, yeah, I was giving "general" idea :p |
| 04:46.59 | Wobin | Slouken: API Request (UISpecialFrames table) |
| 04:47.22 | Wobin | hell, I can put the whole request in the subjectline =P |
| 04:47.40 | AnduinLothar | why are you requesting special frame? |
| 04:48.17 | Wobin | I'd like the table to accept objects as well as table names |
| 04:48.24 | Wobin | for the 'hit escape to close' |
| 04:48.29 | AnduinLothar | why |
| 04:48.40 | Wobin | For my nameless dynamic frames |
| 04:48.46 | AnduinLothar | name them.. |
| 04:48.57 | Wobin | I can't. There's the possiblity they'll be reused |
| 04:49.08 | AnduinLothar | why's that a problem? |
| 04:49.19 | Wobin | Cause then the 'names' will refer to the reused item |
| 04:49.21 | Wobin | and not the new one |
| 04:49.27 | AnduinLothar | just redirect the name |
| 04:49.44 | Wobin | how? |
| 04:49.53 | AnduinLothar | name = newFrame |
| 04:50.16 | Wobin | ... |
| 04:50.29 | AnduinLothar | why si this a problem? |
| 04:50.30 | Wobin | Okay |
| 04:50.50 | Cairenn | Wobin: "Jukebox Hero" ... there's a song that makes you want your guitar |
| 04:50.50 | Wobin | Why -shouldn't- UISpecialFrames accept objects as possible frames? |
| 04:51.04 | AnduinLothar | because it would require rewriting it |
| 04:51.14 | Wobin | All it does is getglobal the name and hide the object |
| 04:51.21 | Wobin | Yes. |
| 04:51.25 | Wobin | That's why it's an API request |
| 04:51.54 | AnduinLothar | lol, why.. it's so much easier for you to just reasign your frame global name |
| 04:52.00 | Wobin | So far, all the 'naming' I've seen has been aiming towards using object references instead of global names |
| 04:52.26 | AnduinLothar | it's the same thing |
| 04:53.59 | Wobin | At the end of it, I'll have so many frames all cross referencing each other |
| 04:54.11 | AnduinLothar | so.. |
| 04:54.29 | Wobin | When instead I can just have objects that are independant of one another |
| 04:54.36 | Wobin | Or. |
| 04:54.42 | Wobin | I can request an API change |
| 04:54.49 | Wobin | Which is logical |
| 04:55.28 | AnduinLothar | ... i'm still confused as to how requesting a change of someone elses code is a better option than you adding 1 line of code.. |
| 04:55.37 | Wobin | Cause it's not one line of code |
| 04:56.04 | AnduinLothar | why isn't it? |
| 04:56.27 | Wobin | If I reuse a frame object I can't GetGlobal a new name to reference the old frame |
| 04:56.45 | AnduinLothar | if you reuse it, why would you want to |
| 04:57.01 | AnduinLothar | and you still could if you had a naming scheme to keep track of old ones |
| 04:57.04 | Wobin | Because I'm reusing it for another purpose |
| 04:57.09 | Wobin | nono |
| 04:57.10 | AnduinLothar | or had a table for indexing them |
| 04:57.11 | Wobin | Say, I create Frog |
| 04:57.20 | Wobin | I then finish using it |
| 04:57.25 | Wobin | drop it back into the pool |
| 04:57.33 | Wobin | I want to then create a frame called Womble |
| 04:57.38 | Wobin | pull it from the pool |
| 04:57.41 | Wobin | oh noes |
| 04:57.45 | Wobin | it's ref'd by Frog |
| 04:58.04 | Wobin | and any getglobal("Frog") will return it |
| 04:58.04 | AnduinLothar | Womble = Frog |
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| 04:58.12 | AnduinLothar | Frog = nil |
| 04:58.25 | Wobin | But Frog will never be GC'd |
| 04:58.35 | Wobin | So it will always be referred to it |
| 04:58.41 | AnduinLothar | you're using frog again, you don't need to dc it |
| 04:58.48 | Wobin | It's a frame |
| 04:59.00 | Wobin | I'm using it for a different purpose |
| 04:59.22 | AnduinLothar | nil the frame name and reasign it |
| 05:00.14 | AnduinLothar | not sure what you mean by 'purpose' that's not a technical term |
| 05:01.03 | Wobin | Oh |
| 05:01.07 | Wobin | And how do you SetName a frame? |
| 05:02.02 | AnduinLothar | function frame:GetName() return "FrameName" end |
| 05:04.33 | Wobin | myFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", "Womble", UIParent) |
| 05:04.34 | Wobin | function myFrame:GetName() return "Frog" end |
| 05:05.30 | Wobin | /script print(getglobal("Frog")) |
| 05:05.33 | Wobin | nil |
| 05:05.49 | AnduinLothar | you have to assign it |
| 05:06.21 | Wobin | assign it? |
| 05:07.28 | AnduinLothar | myFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", "Womble", UIParent) |
| 05:07.28 | AnduinLothar | Frog = Womble |
| 05:07.29 | AnduinLothar | Womble = nil; |
| 05:07.29 | AnduinLothar | function Frog:GetName() return "Frog" end |
| 05:09.42 | AnduinLothar | or just use CreateFrame("Frame", "Womble", UIParent) |
| 05:09.50 | AnduinLothar | don't need to assign it to anythign |
| 05:10.06 | AnduinLothar | er, a local anyway |
| 05:11.13 | Wobin | huh |
| 05:11.25 | Wobin | I could have sworn there was some argument about GetName |
| 05:11.31 | Wobin | oh well |
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| 05:19.21 | cmunn | Hey guys! |
| 05:20.31 | cmunn | Anyone know of a mod that lets you sort Enchants by target? |
| 05:22.27 | Gngsk | hmm, quick guess |
| 05:22.29 | Gngsk | sort enchant? |
| 05:22.36 | Gngsk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4789 |
| 05:23.37 | cmunn | You rock |
| 05:38.59 | Wobin | bah |
| 05:39.08 | Wobin | It was much easier when I didn't have to deal with names |
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| 07:30.27 | Shouryuu|Depress | r awr and so forth |
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| 08:15.12 | Kudane-wowi | morning peeps |
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| 10:04.32 | zenzelezz | hrm... yesterday my background downloader downlaoded 0-97 MB... now it seems to be going for 97-127 |
| 10:04.37 | Shouryuu|Depress | rawr boo moo joy and good mood and so forth |
| 10:04.44 | zenzelezz | oh nose! |
| 10:04.49 | Shouryuu|Depress | hehe |
| 10:04.56 | AnduinLothar | oom |
| 10:05.06 | Shouryuu|Depress | Out Of Mana? |
| 10:05.14 | AnduinLothar | honored AB! |
| 10:05.19 | AnduinLothar | 2 5 caps in a row |
| 10:05.25 | Shouryuu|Depress | w00t |
| 10:05.28 | Shouryuu|Depress | gratz |
| 10:05.29 | AnduinLothar | at 3am |
| 10:05.38 | Shouryuu|Depress | hehe |
| 10:05.46 | AnduinLothar | and i went from 1g to 30g today |
| 10:05.54 | Shouryuu|Depress | This summer I'm going to farm AB like if I had no life |
| 10:05.58 | AnduinLothar | cept now i'm gonna buy a crit belt and make myself broke again |
| 10:06.04 | Shouryuu|Depress | hehe |
| 10:08.53 | Shouryuu|Depress | I hate people like this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=387873&p=1&tmp=1#post387873 He's just too proud to have had his mod uploaded someplace else, and wants the world to know about it... |
| 10:09.37 | Shouryuu|Depress | It's like people who call you and always manage to steer the conversation in a way that they end up saying "Oh, I'm with my girlfriend, you're still single right?" |
| 10:10.28 | AnduinLothar | I'm single, you're still tied up, right? |
| 10:10.40 | Shouryuu|Depress | hehe |
| 10:13.49 | Shouryuu|Depress | And the fellow part ticks me off |
| 10:14.21 | Shouryuu|Depress | God damn I am such in a bad mood |
| 10:17.19 | Shouryuu|Depress | I need to find something destructive to do today |
| 10:29.24 | Wobin | That wasn't really the point of his post, you know =P |
| 10:29.33 | Wobin | And you need a cheerier nick |
| 10:29.38 | Wobin | That'll cheer you up! |
| 10:30.21 | Shouryuu|Joy | =D |
| 10:30.27 | Shouryuu|Joy | Didn't work |
| 10:30.57 | Wobin | Sure it will! =) |
| 10:30.59 | Wobin | Give it time! |
| 10:31.09 | Shouryuu|Joy | And I know that wasn't the point of his post, I just am pissed |
| 10:31.47 | Shouryuu|Joy | And there goes my internet connection playing with my head again |
| 10:32.18 | Shouryuu|Joy | Gawd I need to see a violent movie |
| 10:32.32 | Wobin | hm |
| 10:32.35 | Wobin | Dog Soldiers |
| 10:32.44 | ckknight | murder violence or psycho violence? |
| 10:32.53 | Shouryuu|Joy | Both? |
| 10:32.53 | Wobin | I just bought Ultraviolet and XMen 3 |
| 10:33.02 | Wobin | I dunno if they're any good quality |
| 10:33.35 | Shouryuu|Joy | Ultraviolet really really sucks |
| 10:34.10 | Shouryuu|Joy | It's a ery very very poor movie |
| 10:34.48 | Wobin | hehe It'll be worth the laugh |
| 10:35.00 | Wobin | After all I bought Aeon Flux too |
| 10:35.05 | Wobin | And that was a horrific movie |
| 10:35.16 | Wobin | Ultraviolet will have to stoop pretty low to beat AF =) |
| 10:35.21 | Shouryuu|Joy | It was a series right? |
| 10:35.27 | Wobin | nono |
| 10:35.29 | Wobin | The Movie |
| 10:35.33 | Wobin | With Charlize Theron |
| 10:35.41 | Shouryuu|Joy | They're of the same league |
| 10:35.42 | Wobin | But it was based on a series |
| 10:35.48 | Wobin | (loosely) |
| 10:36.00 | Wobin | (I cannot state just how loosely it was based) |
| 10:36.11 | Wobin | s/state/overstate/ |
| 10:36.13 | Shouryuu|Joy | I take the first movie was good |
| 10:36.21 | Wobin | nono |
| 10:36.25 | Wobin | Sorry =) Was unclear |
| 10:36.32 | Wobin | Aeon Flux was a cartoon series |
| 10:36.39 | Wobin | a very adult twisted cartoon series |
| 10:36.46 | Wobin | Better to say Animated, perhaps |
| 10:37.11 | Wobin | All the characters were anorexically thin and ugly as sin |
| 10:37.22 | Wobin | Then they made a movie with the same name =P |
| 10:37.31 | Shouryuu|Joy | I might take a look at that series |
| 10:37.37 | Shouryuu|Joy | sounds.. amusing :P |
| 10:37.47 | Wobin | The animated series was ... weird. In an interesting way |
| 10:37.50 | Wobin | very dark |
| 10:45.39 | Shouryuu|Depress | And great, my computer has gone soundless |
| 10:45.50 | Shouryuu|Depress | can't even play some music |
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| 10:46.00 | Shouryuu|Depress | What a shitfull fucking week |
| 10:47.28 | AnduinLothar | weekend, yay! |
| 10:47.44 | Shouryuu|Depress | ugh |
| 10:48.03 | Shouryuu|Depress | 3 days of uter depression and boredom... |
| 10:48.32 | AnduinLothar | dude.. go to sleep |
| 10:49.01 | Shouryuu|Depress | lol i'ts noon here |
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| 10:53.53 | AnduinLothar | nap time |
| 10:55.11 | [Wobin] | interesting |
| 10:55.26 | [Wobin] | wowus.m6.net |
| 10:56.24 | Shouryuu|Depress | vas is dat? |
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| 10:58.03 | [Wobin] | Auto updater for addons |
| 10:58.19 | [Wobin] | It has a database of addon versions that updates itself with rss etc |
| 10:58.31 | [Wobin] | Compares it to your setup and downloads the out of date versions |
| 10:59.32 | Shouryuu|Depress | oh nice |
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| 12:17.28 | wereHamster | TPB is up again :) |
| 12:17.43 | wereHamster | with a nice new logo.. |
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| 12:40.26 | coreybif | Any LUA developers interested in a contract job to create a data-gathering addon for item and mob information? Or, anyone in here that can direct me to someone who would be? |
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| 12:44.59 | Kirkburn | Hmm, thepiratebay.org seems to have moved to the Netherlands and is open again |
| 12:45.30 | Kirkburn | Except it's now called 'The Police Bay' with a pirates attacking the Hollywood sign :) |
| 12:46.02 | coreybif | Ha, yes, I read that as well Kirkburn. Looked like a lot of websites were impacted. |
| 12:46.37 | Kirkburn | Yeah ... oh btw, I'm no coder so I can't help you :9 |
| 12:46.50 | coreybif | No worries. |
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| 13:30.49 | coreybif | Anyone here use teamspeak? |
| 13:31.15 | Kalroth | Yeah, why? |
| 13:31.39 | grimman | Morning everyone. |
| 13:31.43 | coreybif | I tried it a while back and didn't like it, but was going to give it another shot. |
| 13:31.53 | coreybif | Morning. |
| 13:33.15 | grimman | I personally prefer Ventrilo, though I like some of the settings of TS. |
| 13:33.52 | coreybif | How many games do you find it's helpful with grimman? |
| 13:34.51 | coreybif | I've always preferred text chat... |
| 13:34.53 | grimman | Just about every game where you want to co-operate. |
| 13:40.12 | Kalroth | I've used TS in EVE-Online and WoW so far, I never grouped/raided much in UO/AC/etc. so I didn't need it there |
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| 13:49.32 | grimman | I hate children... there's a bunch screaming their heads off in the neighbourhood. |
| 13:49.48 | grimman | Can't think of a reason for doing so, but it's terribly annoyign. |
| 13:49.51 | grimman | annoying* |
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| 14:12.03 | Shouryuu|Joy | rawrr |
| 14:19.30 | grimman | Mefinks heat is bad for it. |
| 14:19.38 | Shouryuu|Joy | :P |
| 14:28.41 | Shouryuu|Joy | how do you put an image up on the Wiki? |
| 14:29.20 | grimman | You need a weblock and two helpers to summon it. |
| 14:29.34 | Shouryuu|Joy | lol |
| 14:35.11 | Shouryuu|Joy | ggawwd I love Infected Mushroom |
| 14:35.20 | Shouryuu|Joy | just the perfect music for a lobotomy |
| 14:36.08 | Shouryuu|Joy | And god do I need a lobotomy right now |
| 15:06.10 | Shouryuu|Joy | Lol |
| 15:19.51 | Shouryuu|Joy | God damn it I'm sitting in front of my router and still my connectivity is low |
| 15:30.01 | grimman | Wireless crapola? |
| 15:30.48 | Gnarfoz | pebkac? |
| 15:32.14 | grimman | Most likely. |
| 15:32.15 | grimman | ;D |
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| 15:57.52 | Kirkburn | Shouryuu|Joy, good work on the wiki btw :) |
| 16:05.25 | grimman | cladhaire: Did you make any sense out of the textures? |
| 16:11.49 | cladhaire | grimman: Hrm? |
| 16:16.49 | grimman | The textures from my UI you wanted a couple of days ago. |
| 16:17.55 | cladhaire | o yeah |
| 16:17.56 | cladhaire | they're great |
| 16:18.00 | cladhaire | haven't had a chance to toss them in |
| 16:18.52 | grimman | ;P |
| 16:19.19 | grimman | That's what I wanted to know, if you had any problems with them in-game. Or alternatively if you've checked them out in a viewer and figured out how they fit together. |
| 16:20.41 | cladhaire | nah i see what you did =) |
| 16:21.03 | cladhaire | what res do you run? |
| 16:22.20 | grimman | 1024, window mode @ 1280, scale 0.8[tons of decimals]. |
| 16:22.28 | grimman | So it's a bit messy. ;P |
| 16:22.34 | cladhaire | heheh no problem |
| 16:22.37 | cladhaire | should all fit together nicely. |
| 16:23.25 | grimman | It does. ;) |
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| 16:31.27 | Kaso | Does the Dev of SCT ever hang around here? |
| 16:32.16 | Cide | no |
| 16:33.00 | Kaso | darn. |
| 16:34.04 | Kaso | ah well |
| 16:34.51 | Miravlix | We don't see him around Cosmos either, but maybe we should ask him to join us. |
| 16:35.05 | Miravlix | us = #wowi-lounge |
| 16:35.18 | Kaso | Sounds like something zombies would say "JOOIIN USSS" |
| 16:36.14 | Kaso | yay, finally got around to registering a wowinterface account. |
| 16:36.51 | Miravlix | Finally got tired of ADSL and rented a dedicated server from http://www.rackmounted.com/speed.php |
| 16:37.31 | Kaso | sounds expensive |
| 16:37.49 | Miravlix | 74$ a month for the machine I ordered |
| 16:38.09 | Miravlix | It's the same as my ADSL at home. |
| 16:38.39 | Kaso | whatcha using the machine for? |
| 16:39.05 | Miravlix | My domain email primarly. |
| 16:40.04 | Kaso | expensive emails |
| 16:40.11 | Miravlix | Going to put my Software projects on it. Working on learning GForge |
| 16:41.10 | Kaso | so you were hosting it on your home connection before? |
| 16:41.30 | Miravlix | Yes and my server crashed. |
| 16:41.42 | Miravlix | Lost /var /usr and /home |
| 16:42.02 | Miravlix | So NO MORE, now I'm going to pay to have propper service. |
| 16:42.07 | Kaso | not taking backups? naughty naughty |
| 16:43.30 | Miravlix | I've not had all that much cache lately, so yeah buying CD's and burning the data got skipped in favor or food on the table. |
| 16:43.36 | Miravlix | cash, even |
| 16:43.45 | Kaso | ha ha cache thats great |
| 16:45.50 | Kaso | I've never taken backups, but then again ive got no data who's loss would cause me any problems. |
| 16:51.09 | Miravlix | Gforge, Sitebar perhaps running and ircd server again, email and with time I can perhaps earn a little cash on hosting for others. |
| 17:11.23 | grimman | Mm, my rogue is disgusting. ^^ |
| 17:11.46 | grimman | One sinister strike -> lots of extra attack procs + poison procs + crits == dead mob. |
| 17:11.54 | grimman | Basically insta. |
| 17:22.06 | Gnarfoz | level 20 mob vs. level 60 rogue? |
| 17:26.12 | Wobin | hm |
| 17:26.21 | Wobin | Do weapon enchants prevent poison buffs? |
| 17:28.21 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 17:28.41 | Gnarfoz | that's another separate slot on the item (temporary buffs) |
| 17:31.02 | MentalPower | no contest |
| 17:32.39 | grimman | Gnarfoz: No. ;P |
| 17:32.48 | grimman | Doubt I'd even have to SS that. ;D |
| 17:32.58 | Gnarfoz | unarmed melee should be enough |
| 17:33.04 | grimman | Probably. |
| 17:35.42 | Wobin | woot |
| 17:36.01 | Wobin | What a good unhighlevel roguey enchant? |
| 17:36.09 | Wobin | (ie not crusader =P) |
| 17:37.28 | cladhaire | +15 agi =) |
| 17:37.38 | cladhaire | fiery if you can get it cheap ups the DPS pretty signifigantly |
| 17:37.57 | Wobin | hm, have to look up the mats |
| 17:38.02 | Wobin | Greater Agility? |
| 17:38.10 | cladhaire | its too high level =) |
| 17:38.10 | cladhaire | lol |
| 17:38.17 | cladhaire | end-game |
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| 17:39.45 | Wobin | bah |
| 17:39.50 | Wobin | helpful info then? =P |
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| 18:35.41 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
| 18:38.29 | Cairenn | hey ComicSansMS :) |
| 18:40.00 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=387873&p=1&tmp=1#post387873 |
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| 18:42.35 | Esamynn | Good morning all |
| 18:43.01 | ComicSansMS | *wave* hi |
| 18:45.04 | Cairenn | hey Esamynn |
| 18:52.54 | Esamynn | dang, I was hoping Gello would be a round |
| 18:53.02 | Esamynn | s/a round/around/ |
| 18:56.50 | Gnarfoz | i think, everyone gathered as much ;) |
| 18:57.32 | Esamynn | :P |
| 18:57.57 | Esamynn | let me spam the bot in peace :D |
| 18:58.09 | Gnarfoz | anyone who is familiar with localizing addons for the german client around? or more specifically: has anyone got a clue as to why the combat log strings are different in the german client? |
| 18:58.35 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 18:58.36 | purl | :), Esamynn |
| 19:00.44 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/focus_the_cross.jpg -- filename says it all. Only takes a couple of seconds. ^^ |
| 19:01.17 | grimman | Gnarfoz: Wild guess would be that it's because they're in german. ;P |
| 19:01.54 | Gnarfoz | grimman: besides the obvious language differences I meant. |
| 19:02.14 | Esamynn | grimman: yah, i've seen that before ;) |
| 19:03.40 | Gnarfoz | enGB: "%s crits %s for %d %s damage." deDE: "%1$s trifft %2$s kritisch für %3$d %4$s Schaden." |
| 19:04.24 | Gnarfoz | I don't get what those 1$, 2$ and so on are supposed to be there for but they were screwing up my attempts to localize dmgmeters 5.0 ;) |
| 19:04.25 | Esamynn | looks the same to me |
| 19:04.42 | Esamynn | cut them out |
| 19:04.52 | Gnarfoz | that's what I did, just one gsub |
| 19:04.54 | Esamynn | they appear in some english localisations too |
| 19:04.59 | Gnarfoz | yea? hm |
| 19:05.12 | Gnarfoz | k I'll just gsub them into oblivion then and don't think about them anymore |
| 19:05.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:05.15 | Esamynn | I don't know why they are there, but as I said, but them out |
| 19:05.25 | Esamynn | cut* |
| 19:05.30 | Esamynn | 8) |
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| 19:06.18 | Esamynn | I do wonder why a lot of those strings are there though, I mean, does the client actually use them? |
| 19:06.19 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, string.format("%4$ %2$s %3$d %1$s", "1", "2", "3", "4") returns "4 2 3 1" |
| 19:06.38 | Kirkburn | Grah! HL2:Ep1 keeps locking my machine! |
| 19:06.47 | wereHamster | $X? means the X-th argument.. |
| 19:07.02 | Esamynn | wereHamster: is that actually valid in Lua? I couldn't find any reference to it in the manual |
| 19:07.26 | Gnarfoz | it certainly breaks the patternmatching because it is right in the middle of the "%s" and "%d"'s |
| 19:07.37 | wereHamster | so WoW.exe can always use the same formating string (defined in GlobalStrings.lua).. |
| 19:08.34 | Esamynn | oh so does the client actually use those values when it is outputing stuff in event args? |
| 19:09.29 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, Damage meters use this or similar function to convert "%s crits %s for %d %s damage." to a lua pattern.. http://wow.pastebin.com/756166 |
| 19:10.10 | Gnarfoz | something like that, yeah |
| 19:10.47 | Gnarfoz | which of course won't work with those strange strings so I have to modify it to work on the german client =) |
| 19:11.19 | Gnarfoz | I'm just wondering why the enGB client does not use these 1$, 2$, 3$... while the deDE client does |
| 19:11.24 | wereHamster | "%1$s trifft %2$s kritisch für %3$d %4$s Schaden." would get something like "(.-) trifft (.-) kritisch für (d+) (.-) Schaden." and it would also return an array how to map the $1, $2 etc |
| 19:12.24 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, because some languages put the spell name before the caster name.. |
| 19:12.52 | Gnarfoz | hm... never observed that? |
| 19:13.08 | wereHamster | "[spell] is being cast by [caster]" .. but WoW.exe can always use string.format("SPELLCASTOTHERSTART", caster, spell) |
| 19:14.44 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, btw, that function I posted in pastebin should work in all locales! The idea is that it does handle $1, $2 etc correctly.. |
| 19:16.00 | Gnarfoz | possibly |
| 19:17.11 | wereHamster | not possibly.. it DOES work... I tested it with enGB, deDE and frFR clients.. and french clients have a very different combatlog format.. |
| 19:18.45 | Gnarfoz | but damagemeters is already using the strings from globalstrings.lua (and besides, I don't really see how I would adapt damagemeters to use your function), shouldn't that be enough? |
| 19:23.31 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, the function is stolen from http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5008-Simple_Combat_Log.html |
| 19:23.58 | wereHamster | .. which stole the function from Recap |
| 19:26.05 | wereHamster | Esamynn, whether standart lua or not, I don't know, but string.format() has the same syntax as printf() which supports $?s (with a slightly different syntax maybe) |
| 19:27.48 | Gnarfoz | so, in essence, If I put that function to use (by passing every combat message through it, before giving it over to the parser of dmgmeters itself, wherever that one is), dmgmeters (or any logparser for that matter) would be language independent? |
| 19:28.27 | Gnarfoz | (independent as in: by using the already supplied argument order in the strings gotten from globalstrings.lua) |
| 19:30.08 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, parseSpellStart(msg), as in the pastebin code, will always (locale independent) return 'casterName, spellName' if msg is combatlog message that indicates that someone started to cast a spell.. |
| 19:31.10 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 19:31.37 | Gnarfoz | that... requires some adaption then |
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| 19:35.32 | Gnarfoz | mh, or I could just make up some complicated pattern that finds any occurence in GlobalStrings.lua where a higher numbered argument comes before a lower numbered one (e.g. $3 before $1) |
| 19:40.24 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, there is no way to list the contents of just GlobalStrings.lua |
| 19:40.35 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 19:40.44 | Gnarfoz | opening it in an editor does that |
| 19:41.00 | wereHamster | I thought you wanted to do that from within lua ;) |
| 19:41.08 | Gnarfoz | not necessarily |
| 19:41.34 | Gnarfoz | I'm just trying to figure out what lenghts I'll have to go to to get dmgmeters working reliably on a german client |
| 19:41.39 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. localizing it) |
| 19:42.06 | wereHamster | Isn't there alread y a german version? |
| 19:42.10 | Gnarfoz | if indeed all combat messages follow the same patterns like the original ones |
| 19:42.16 | Gnarfoz | not for version 5.0 |
| 19:42.39 | Gnarfoz | then I'd simply gsub out the 1$'s and be done with it |
| 19:43.07 | Gnarfoz | thus, I'll find out if indeed some occurence of "3$ before 1$" exists |
| 19:43.51 | AnduinLothar | doesn't the cosmos version already work for german..? |
| 19:43.57 | Gnarfoz | cosmos? o_O |
| 19:44.17 | Gnarfoz | what has dandelion's dmgmeters 5.0 got to do with cosmos? |
| 19:44.41 | AnduinLothar | I'm under the impression that the DM in Cosmos already works for English, frewnch and german |
| 19:44.44 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 19:44.52 | Gnarfoz | what version is it based on? |
| 19:45.01 | AnduinLothar | an older one no doubt |
| 19:45.02 | Cairenn | wow, how about dialing it back a notch, k? |
| 19:45.04 | Gnarfoz | (and would it still work on its own?) |
| 19:45.14 | AnduinLothar | yes, it does |
| 19:45.20 | AnduinLothar | has no deps afaik |
| 19:45.57 | AnduinLothar | probably missing the most recent non-cosmos features |
| 19:46.05 | AnduinLothar | but it's already localized |
| 19:46.11 | Gnarfoz | hm, gotta have a look at that one, but older versions directly parsed the combatlog via patterns defined in dmgmeters's lua instead of via the global strings like 5.0 |
| 19:46.20 | Gnarfoz | the last version before 5.0 was localized, too :) |
| 19:46.41 | AnduinLothar | i was under the impression there were 3 languaged versions.. |
| 19:46.52 | Gnarfoz | multi-languaged? |
| 19:47.03 | AnduinLothar | 1 lang each |
| 19:47.05 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 19:47.13 | AnduinLothar | why.. |
| 19:47.35 | Gnarfoz | because dandelion does not want to update the files of his release when someone updates the localizations -.- |
| 19:47.51 | AnduinLothar | that seems silly |
| 19:48.06 | AnduinLothar | the version is based on 4.2.1 |
| 19:48.38 | Gnarfoz | I thought so, but I specifically asked him about it and that seems to be his stance on it. as long as he's fine with separate versions for different languages, that's the way it will be, it seems |
| 19:49.07 | AnduinLothar | well, we don't agree, but w/e. It makes it difficult to update |
| 19:50.19 | Gnarfoz | w/e indeed, but wereHamster's information up there seems to be the key to make at least the parsing part language independent - that seems interesting enough to toy around with it while I'm digging around in that code |
| 19:50.47 | AnduinLothar | afaik language independant parsing has been possible for ages |
| 19:51.14 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, the parsing in 5.0 should be language independent AFAICS.. |
| 19:51.30 | wereHamster | { source=1, dest=3, amount=4, spell=2, damageType=0, crit=DM_DOT, pattern=SPELLSPLITDAMAGEOTHEROTHER }, -- (.+)'s (.+) causes (.+) (%d+) |
| 19:51.47 | Gnarfoz | does not work out of the box on german clients. |
| 19:51.57 | AnduinLothar | what doesn't |
| 19:51.59 | wereHamster | did you enable debugging? |
| 19:53.53 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: inserted my own little debugging that printed out the messages that were supposed to be parsed by what pattern - and that's where those 1$, 2$ and so on came into view, they seem to break the patterns dmgmeters is expecting |
| 19:54.11 | Gnarfoz | (hm, I don't seem to be able to make myself clearly understood ^^) |
| 19:55.56 | Gnarfoz | <wereHamster> { source=1, dest=3, amount=4, spell=2, damageType=0, crit=DM_DOT, pattern=SPELLSPLITDAMAGEOTHEROTHER }, -- (.+)'s (.+) causes (.+) (%d+) <-- exactly, but that does not take into account the 1$'s and so on, because they are not even there in the enGB client |
| 19:55.56 | wereHamster | I see.. |
| 19:56.10 | wereHamster | stupid author,, ;) |
| 19:56.24 | Gnarfoz | not taking into account different language versions, at least :) |
| 19:57.22 | Gnarfoz | although using the globalstrings instead of files that contain parsing patterns _should_ make it easier, shouldn't it |
| 20:07.26 | AnduinLothar | O.o does UnitCharacterPoints work on any unit? |
| 20:08.37 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, I almost fixed it.. |
| 20:09.09 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: you're faster than me then, I'm still trying to get my head around it :> |
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| 20:11.20 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, it wasn't that hard.. just using my function to convert the patterns.. |
| 20:11.59 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 20:13.38 | Gnarfoz | I've got to admit, my knowledge extends does not extend to very much more than "meddling with stuff", through basic programming knowledge gained by observation and usage of other languages... I'm thus not as quick =) |
| 20:14.00 | Gnarfoz | ermm... -extends |
| 20:14.12 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, http://wow.pastebin.com/756279 |
| 20:14.39 | wereHamster | replace the block between lines 6326 and 6386 |
| 20:15.08 | AnduinLothar | how do you determin if a unit npc is a vendor? |
| 20:16.52 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: will try that, thanks =) |
| 20:17.42 | Miravlix | Hmm |
| 20:17.52 | Miravlix | There is some event generated when they get near |
| 20:18.21 | Miravlix | But it's prolly highly unreliable to use that 'feature' |
| 20:18.40 | AnduinLothar | does it pass it's name? |
| 20:19.18 | Miravlix | I just noticed it some months ago, don't remember what event or what it did. |
| 20:19.42 | Miravlix | Due to a wandering shop keeper in IF while I was codeing something else |
| 20:20.11 | AnduinLothar | spose i could go to the issolated vendor and whatch events |
| 20:20.23 | AnduinLothar | is there an existing event whatcher yet? |
| 20:20.34 | Miravlix | EventProfiler |
| 20:20.44 | Miravlix | But Sairen quit wow and removed it for download |
| 20:20.52 | AnduinLothar | O.o |
| 20:20.54 | wereHamster | DevTools |
| 20:21.08 | AnduinLothar | DevTools has an event profiler? |
| 20:21.29 | Miravlix | Loging in to check with EventProfiler. |
| 20:21.39 | wereHamster | no, but it displays which event generated the message |
| 20:21.45 | clad|drinking | There's no message tho |
| 20:21.51 | clad|drinking | that's the point =) |
| 20:21.53 | wereHamster | ah.. :( |
| 20:22.07 | AnduinLothar | oh msgs are easy |
| 20:22.13 | wereHamster | do we have RegisterAllEvents() already? |
| 20:22.24 | AnduinLothar | lol nope |
| 20:22.37 | End | huh |
| 20:22.43 | End | I see a LCDLayout.xml |
| 20:22.49 | End | must be used for that keyboard |
| 20:22.52 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 20:25.11 | clad|drinking | we have RegisterAllEvents() on 1.11 |
| 20:25.41 | grimman | Hm. |
| 20:26.02 | AnduinLothar | lookign through the event list i don't see any who's name would indicate that mira |
| 20:26.23 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, for some reason, DM doesn't display the name in the list, but you can move the mouse over the first list entry and you'll see a tooltip with your stats... |
| 20:28.17 | Miravlix | Maybe it was fixed. |
| 20:28.58 | Miravlix | It was a long time ago, so who knows, I can't tricker it with NPC's in Darnassus |
| 20:29.29 | AnduinLothar | someone wanna do me a favor and check that LevelEstimator works on 1.11 |
| 20:29.47 | AnduinLothar | just need to know if we can still get hostile unit defense value |
| 20:30.26 | Miravlix | Only thing I get is TABARD_CANSAVE_CHANGED, but I don't remember that as being it |
| 20:32.23 | AnduinLothar | Do mobs of different levels, but the same name have the same loot table? |
| 20:35.14 | Kalroth | if they're within a range, then yeah |
| 20:35.17 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: yea, i've been testing it just now |
| 20:35.23 | Gnarfoz | your part, I mean :) |
| 20:35.25 | Kalroth | eg 54-56 would share |
| 20:35.36 | AnduinLothar | k thx, that's what I wanted to know |
| 20:35.54 | Gnarfoz | works fine, although it seems to be a little different ( (.-) where once there was (.+) for example) |
| 20:36.02 | Gnarfoz | and ^ at the beginning of every string |
| 20:36.17 | AnduinLothar | ARE there ones with the same name that DONT share loot table? |
| 20:36.47 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: the problem you're experiencing comes from the missing class->color conversion, so dmgmeters does not know which color the bar is supposed to have :) |
| 20:37.24 | wereHamster | DM saves the class name in SV .. argh.. |
| 20:38.18 | AnduinLothar | y? |
| 20:38.22 | wereHamster | DM is crap.. |
| 20:38.33 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 20:38.44 | Gnarfoz | uses RAID_CLASS_COLORS which, sadly, is localized, too, so we've got to supply dm with the localized class names for it to work (already did that) |
| 20:39.12 | AnduinLothar | wait... RAID_CLASS_COLORS is localized? |
| 20:39.19 | wereHamster | UnitClass()also returns a non-localized name |
| 20:39.21 | AnduinLothar | that doesn't sound right |
| 20:39.29 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 20:39.29 | End | ugh! ctraidassist is clearing the message global in an OnUpdate it looks like |
| 20:39.32 | wereHamster | which can be directly used as the index to RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
| 20:39.40 | End | (but I can only reproduce it on test) |
| 20:39.52 | Kalroth | bad Cide, bad! |
| 20:40.09 | Cide | yes, but I fixed it locally a while ago :P |
| 20:40.23 | End | gimme fix! |
| 20:40.26 | End | ;p |
| 20:40.36 | Gnarfoz | AnduinLothar: err, no my bad :) RAID_CLASS_COLORS of course is not localized |
| 20:42.26 | End | ok, I found where the problem is, hehe |
| 20:45.53 | AnduinLothar | er... current player coords command... |
| 20:47.06 | AnduinLothar | GetPlayerMapPosition |
| 20:47.15 | AnduinLothar | grr... needs coords in the name |
| 20:48.18 | Kirkburn | What distance is 1ex in html? |
| 20:48.46 | Gnarfoz | ex? don't know that size |
| 20:49.08 | Kirkburn | ex, em, px, so many sizes :/ |
| 20:49.25 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: but... DamageMeters_tables[DMT_ACTIVE][index].class = UnitClass("player"); <- it seems to get the classname via UnitClass() though? -.- |
| 20:50.35 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, the whole design is broken anyway because I can't share the SV between clients in different locale.. |
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| 20:52.23 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: hm? what do you mean? |
| 20:53.34 | Gnarfoz | I would not really call portability of saved variables between different language clients necessary, at least not for an addon that does what damagemeters does |
| 21:03.01 | wereHamster | It's important for me.. so I don't have to setup my keybindings, frame positions etc for each locale.. and why having a custom GetClassColor() function if the class colors can already be accesses locale-independent? |
| 21:04.17 | wereHamster | until thwe class colors will be fixed, you can use this: http://wow.pastebin.com/756379 .. just put it into localization.de.lua |
| 21:07.30 | Gnarfoz | hehe, as I said, I already put in a little translation table myself |
| 21:07.52 | Gnarfoz | and your's wouldn't work for hunters, I'm afraid ;) |
| 21:09.56 | Gnarfoz | erm, UnitClass() returns "Schurke" instead of "Rogue"... so it is, indeed, localized |
| 21:11.46 | ComicSansMS | UnitClass has to returns, one localized, one international |
| 21:11.56 | ComicSansMS | to -> two ^^ |
| 21:14.40 | Jb55 | http://curse-gaming.com/en/wow/items-13263-forors-casual-pummeler.html |
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| 21:19.21 | Kirkburn1 | Yet another hard lock :/ |
| 21:21.07 | Gnarfoz | ComicSansMS: thanks, I'll use that and advise the author to use the second return :> |
| 21:23.55 | grimman | Kirkburn: You need to code your addons better. ;P |
| 21:32.07 | ckknight_ | feel free to use BabbleLib-Class |
| 21:40.40 | Kirkburn1 | grimman, HL2:Ep1, not WoW :P |
| 21:41.00 | Kirkburn | I'm not the only one with the problem, seems to be a major crash bug |
| 22:06.13 | Kirkburn | And so I try again, gotta love bugs |
| 22:08.05 | Gnarfoz | sounds like hardware to me :> |
| 22:08.43 | Kirkburn | It's happening all over the shop according to the Steam forums |
| 22:09.29 | Kirkburn | On level loads the computer all but locks up (it responds, but veeeery slowly, too slowly to recover) |
| 22:24.55 | grimman | En Taro Adun, executor! |
| 22:26.55 | MentalPower | ah, the wonders of StarCraft :) |
| 22:26.56 | ckknight_ | Adun Torias |
| 22:28.27 | MentalPower | My life for Aiur! |
| 22:28.45 | Gnarfoz | C&C <3 :p |
| 22:29.02 | krka | war2 >> c&c |
| 22:29.37 | Gnarfoz | never =[ |
| 22:30.28 | Kirkburn | I think, uh, my GPU just had a core shutdown |
| 22:30.47 | Gnarfoz | whatever that's supposed to be ;) |
| 22:31.03 | Kirkburn | My desktop is now 800x600 and 16 colour |
| 22:31.13 | Kirkburn | And I can't revert it |
| 22:31.19 | grimman | Gnarfoz: Don't get me wrong, I loved C&C back in the day... |
| 22:31.25 | grimman | But EA == rapemaster 5000. |
| 22:31.30 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 22:31.49 | Gnarfoz | the newer ones arre horrible, as is most everything that gets bought up by ea |
| 22:31.55 | grimman | Aye. |
| 22:32.04 | grimman | TD and RA are the only good ones imo. |
| 22:32.08 | grimman | Mostly TD. |
| 22:32.36 | grimman | Anyway, friend whining alot, we're gonna play Starcraft now. ;D |
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| 22:36.56 | Kirkburn | 10th time's the charm |
| 22:38.08 | Kirkburn | (well, more like 20th) |
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| 22:50.23 | wereHamster | Gnarfoz, mu german localization for GetClassColor() works.. |
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| 23:12.00 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: which one? the one with a "helper table"? |
| 23:12.10 | wereHamster | yes |
| 23:13.02 | Gnarfoz | of course that one works ;) that's what I had all along (before I even started talking about DMM in here ;)) |
| 23:13.47 | wereHamster | .. why do you think it wouldn't work for hunters? |
| 23:13.53 | Gnarfoz | but for some reason replacing all calls to UnitClass() (somevariable = UnitClass("player"); e.g. with _, somevariable = UnitClass("player");) does not work -.- |
| 23:14.00 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: because the a-umlaut is not escaped |
| 23:14.37 | wereHamster | doesn't need to be.. |
| 23:14.48 | Gnarfoz | only of you can guarantee the file stays UTF-8 |
| 23:15.00 | Gnarfoz | and that's something I wouldn't count on ;> |
| 23:17.22 | wereHamster | I can,,, |
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| 23:21.31 | Kirkburn1 | AAAAAHHHHH!!!! |
| 23:21.38 | Kirkburn1 | Bloody thing |
| 23:22.19 | Kirkburn1 | Make that 21 crashes |
| 23:24.21 | Kirkburn1 | I daren't try again until a patch comes out, lest I break my laptop |
| 23:25.32 | Gnarfoz | Kirkburn: while you are screaming in agony about not being able to play ep1, let me redirect your attention to this litte piece of praise: ClearFont is one really sweet addon. now that the fonts are height and width fixed I'm using it and am in love with it ^^ |
| 23:25.50 | Kirkburn1 | Yay! Thanks :) |
| 23:27.04 | coreybif | There any abandonware fans out there? |
| 23:27.19 | Kirkburn1 | Actually I managed to finish Ep1, by forcing to direct 8.1 level, losing HDR :( Then I started again with commentary on, and got an auto restart from a sound bug! |
| 23:27.29 | Kirkburn1 | Mmm, abandonware |
| 23:27.31 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 23:28.48 | Kirkburn1 | What about abandonware, then? |
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| 23:39.51 | ckknight | is there any way to tell if the server is running on DST? |
