| 00:00.36 | Miravlix | Notice the missing file location. :p |
| 00:01.44 | Miravlix | Ugh, trying to change a burned out Halogen lightbulp sure is fun after it's been burning all day. :) |
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| 00:07.49 | Miravlix | Error: bad argument #4 to `format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 00:08.05 | Miravlix | local ERROR_FORMAT = TTLIB_PTEXT.."%s: %s. (%s)" |
| 00:08.16 | Miravlix | Why would that format require a 4th argument? |
| 00:08.35 | AnduinLothar | first arg is ERROR_FORMAT |
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| 00:10.14 | Miravlix | Well, I guess the lightbulp blowing is having a cascade Comic style effect on my abilities. |
| 00:11.44 | zespri_work | missing location probably means RunScript or something |
| 00:14.36 | Miravlix | it was a setglobal(nil, stuff) call I think |
| 00:16.47 | zespri_work | good day cairenn |
| 00:16.54 | Cairenn | hey zespri |
| 00:17.04 | Miravlix | Or Evening if you prefair |
| 00:17.28 | Cairenn | 8:17 pm ... yeah, evening I suppose |
| 00:17.52 | zespri_work | afternoon here =) |
| 00:18.08 | zespri_work | 12:17 |
| 00:18.30 | Miravlix | wtb function something( var = "default", anothervar = "something" ) |
| 00:18.32 | Cairenn | love the international state of this channel |
| 00:19.00 | Miravlix | wtb the ability to use = in a lot more places actually. |
| 00:19.06 | zespri_work | it's lua not pyton =) |
| 00:19.30 | Miravlix | if x = y then |
| 00:19.38 | zespri_work | but I don't think that there is anything you can't do in lua with a little bit more verbose code |
| 00:20.19 | Miravlix | Problem is it gets to be a huge amount of more code because of being unablle to use = in a lot of fun places |
| 00:20.58 | Miravlix | Offcourse it also means I never make if x = y then mistakes when it should be if x == y then |
| 00:21.27 | Miravlix | for i = 0, 10 do they do allow it in one place |
| 00:21.37 | zespri_work | it's a matter of opinion, but I think that not being able to use it the way you want only adds to code readability. concise != readable |
| 00:23.18 | Miravlix | function func( var = "something" ) isn't going to confuse anyone |
| 00:23.51 | Miravlix | And it's a lot more readable than function func( var ) if func == nil then func = "something end |
| 00:24.20 | Miravlix | Then people start doing the if on one line making it undreadable |
| 00:26.37 | Miravlix | also it's in if elseif elseif loops I need the = assignment |
| 00:26.45 | Miravlix | There is no good way to code that now |
| 00:27.04 | Miravlix | local size = table.getn( data ) |
| 00:28.37 | Miravlix | if size then something elsif size = data.n then elseif size = 0 then for k, v in data do size = size + 1 end |
| 00:31.01 | Miravlix | http://wow.pastebin.com/743889 |
| 00:31.54 | Miravlix | That is bugged actually hehe precisely because I don't have if elseif with equals. :p |
| 00:32.25 | Miravlix | Oh wait, I do a return size to get around it |
| 00:35.26 | zespri_work | well, I think each case needs to be treated individually. There are a few cases whe this syntax would proof usefull, but I think in the most of cases you can express the same code intention not worse by different means. |
| 00:35.50 | zespri_work | (I'm still talking about '=' thingy) |
| 00:37.17 | Miravlix | It is worse, it takes more work to write a solution without being allowed to use ='s in certain place. |
| 00:37.50 | Miravlix | Only because I made it a function am I allowed to do the return to work around it |
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| 00:38.11 | Miravlix | But a function has overhead that the same code inline wouldn't have. |
| 00:39.11 | Miravlix | But this is lua, we have no Switch and no equal in checks. |
| 00:39.58 | [Wobin] | Using a table for switch is fun |
| 00:42.54 | Miravlix | It's a work around, but with considerable more overhead, table lookup, function ptr lookup |
| 00:45.32 | Miravlix | Also what I really want is switch( "T" ) then case 'A': print("A") case 'T': print("T") case 'X': print("T") default: print("Not in the alphabet") break |
| 00:45.59 | zespri_work | elseif does basically the same |
| 00:46.02 | zespri_work | no? |
| 00:46.10 | Miravlix | Nope |
| 00:46.22 | Miravlix | That switch execute every statement |
| 00:46.34 | zenzio | from the first matching case |
| 00:46.54 | Miravlix | I forgot case z: print break. :p |
| 00:47.49 | zenzio | I remember trying to learn "switch" in C++... took me some time to get it right |
| 00:48.19 | zenzio | probably didn't help that I was wise enough to do try to learn that in the always fun WndProc() function |
| 00:48.38 | zenzio | -do |
| 00:49.54 | Miravlix | We have pretty limited code execution skipping in lua, it doesn't mean we can't get the job done though. |
| 00:55.13 | Miravlix | TEST_TAG_TEST = "do not translate"; |
| 00:55.56 | zenzio | heh |
| 00:56.51 | Miravlix | ERR_UNHEALTHY_TIME = "You are in unhealthy time, you should log off now."; -- Sent every 15 minutes in unhealthy time. |
| 01:09.04 | zenzio | at the risk of sounding smug... I find it ironic to read people claiming their "english knowledge perfect oral and writen", and then see them use words like "proaly" (probably), "horrable" (horrible), leave out apostrophes in contractions ("im" instead of I'm) and "U" instead of you... |
| 01:11.01 | Corrodias | in my case, i do occasionally skimp on apostrophes if i'm feeling apathetic |
| 01:11.08 | grimman | Don't forget you're other important words... or maybe your just forgetting. |
| 01:11.22 | grimman | Now... beat that for craptacular English. |
| 01:11.26 | grimman | ;D |
| 01:11.30 | zenzio | ouch ;) |
| 01:11.55 | grimman | It actually made some sense... I'm not used to writing like that. |
| 01:11.56 | zenzio | I generally give people some room for error, but when they say "perfect" they can be damn sure I'll nit-pick :) |
| 01:12.24 | grimman | Corrodias: And proper casing. *cough cough* |
| 01:12.44 | Corrodias | lETHARGIC |
| 01:15.29 | grimman | One of the most horrible things I've seen was "u'r". |
| 01:16.05 | grimman | As in "get u'r stuff"... |
| 01:18.36 | zenzio | let me see if I can find that old thing... |
| 01:19.02 | grimman | Oh, and one time I had an arguement with a supposed English teacher (haha) about acronyms. |
| 01:20.09 | grimman | He claimed acronyms should be preceded by "a" -- a FTP, a IRC client, a IM. |
| 01:20.35 | grimman | Not always, of course, but never ever preceded by "an" anyway. |
| 01:22.19 | zenzio | O_o |
| 01:22.40 | grimman | Indeed. |
| 01:23.21 | zenzio | although this person probably never claimed to speak very fluent English: "who doing she this were with all in the base" ( http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=123692 ) |
| 01:23.23 | grimman | And once I dug an URL out proving him wrong, I was promptly banned from that IRC channel. |
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| 01:24.36 | [Wobin] | at least it's not ATM Machine =P |
| 01:24.40 | [Wobin] | Or PIN number |
| 01:25.08 | zenzio | I do see "NIC card" pop up now and then |
| 01:25.14 | [Wobin] | Also, you -could- use 'a FTP' if you're referring to the protocol itself |
| 01:26.06 | Miravlix | NI card |
| 01:26.07 | grimman | [Wobin]: No... since when you pronounce it you say "eff tee pee" it's supposed to be "an FTP", be that transfer, server or whatever. |
| 01:26.10 | Miravlix | Monthy Python! |
| 01:26.18 | zenzio | lol |
| 01:26.37 | grimman | Miravlix: Hehe. |
| 01:26.48 | AnduinLothar | i figure you preceed it with the same thing you would if it were spelled out |
| 01:26.55 | Miravlix | I play the NI card! |
| 01:27.07 | grimman | AnduinLothar: Based on pronounciation. =) |
| 01:27.07 | [Wobin] | I spell it out in my mind anyway =P |
| 01:27.13 | Miravlix | File Transfair Protocol |
| 01:27.49 | Miravlix | The an/a being based on pronouncation makes it virtually impossible to get right |
| 01:28.10 | grimman | Not really... it only really gets complicated when dealing with acronyms. |
| 01:28.10 | Miravlix | We say F T P not your strange sound words |
| 01:28.11 | [Wobin] | just verbify everything =P |
| 01:28.34 | Miravlix | I say S C S I not Scusi |
| 01:28.40 | grimman | Miravlix: Got a mic? Please, PLEASE record that for me. ^^ |
| 01:29.09 | Miravlix | Nope, it was 5K DKK more to get the mic, have to wait 2 months for it |
| 01:29.29 | grimman | ;P |
| 01:30.28 | Miravlix | I want Bluetooth Microphone/Earset the new Create X-FI, Logitech wireless 5.1 |
| 01:30.45 | Miravlix | So has to buy it in stages. |
| 01:31.06 | Miravlix | Oh, Logitech DeNiro (Bluetooth keyboard) |
| 01:31.21 | grimman | I was told bluetooth headsets won't work with computers... so I'm a bit sceptical about that. I still don't see why, but I don't feel it's worth buying a kit just to check. ;P |
| 01:31.52 | Miravlix | It's Logitechs Bluetooth equipment it works with there BlueTooth keyboard |
| 01:31.54 | grimman | DeNiro? That's an actor. |
| 01:32.06 | grimman | DiNovo is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse package. |
| 01:32.56 | Miravlix | Then around X-mas I can buy some insanely expensive BlueTooth phone and PDA in one. |
| 01:33.12 | grimman | ^^ |
| 01:33.16 | grimman | PDA ftw. |
| 01:33.29 | grimman | My old thing serves as a backlit book. |
| 01:33.32 | Miravlix | My Palm V is getting aged, almost worn out the display |
| 01:33.33 | grimman | Excellent. |
| 01:34.04 | grimman | Hm... I can recommend screen protectors. |
| 01:34.39 | Miravlix | It's the pen thats worn it out |
| 01:34.42 | Miravlix | Not scratches |
| 01:34.48 | grimman | Explain. |
| 01:35.07 | Miravlix | It has removed the surface because I've played solitair to much? |
| 01:35.24 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 01:35.24 | grimman | Ah. ;P |
| 01:35.27 | grimman | Still, screen protectors ftw. |
| 01:35.42 | grimman | Unless you wear through them. |
| 01:35.53 | grimman | Which hasn't happened to me personally, ever. |
| 01:35.56 | Miravlix | Well, it's 5 years old |
| 01:36.01 | Miravlix | It's lasted a long time |
| 01:36.04 | grimman | =) |
| 01:36.13 | AnduinLothar | i'll need to replace my ipod near xmas... hoping they come out with a new version before then |
| 01:36.16 | Miravlix | And it still works. |
| 01:36.32 | grimman | I can tell you this anyway, if I ever get a new one I'm gonna use screen protectors from day one. |
| 01:36.57 | Miravlix | Just getting ugly and it's developed this position drift so I have to reconfigure it every time I use it. |
| 01:37.16 | grimman | Ugh, that sucks. |
| 01:37.24 | grimman | I'm fairly certain mine's up to something similar. |
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| 01:39.52 | Miravlix | I hope my dealer got the last part to my computer today, so it will arrive tomorrow. |
| 01:40.27 | Miravlix | I just hope Windows behave when I move the harddisk over. |
| 01:41.09 | grimman | If it's the same chipset it most likely will. |
| 01:42.53 | Miravlix | Nope, going from this old 2 Ghz Athlon and Asus motherboard to 64 x2 4800+ and a DFI NFI motherboard |
| 01:42.59 | grimman | I moved my old server harddrive from an ASUS Intel board with Via chipset to a Chaintech AMD board, also with Via chipset, and that worked perfectly. I had to re-install some drivers, but nothing else. |
| 01:43.36 | Miravlix | Hmm, thats NF4 not NFI |
| 01:45.10 | Miravlix | Linux I can plan to have a new kernel ready for the upgrade, but Windows, plug and pray |
| 01:45.34 | grimman | Indeed. |
| 01:47.15 | Miravlix | Oh well, it only takes 8 hours to re-install. :p |
| 01:49.16 | Wobin | hehe |
| 01:49.35 | Wobin | PA's take on Leeroy Jenkins |
| 01:49.36 | Wobin | http://www.penny-arcade.com/docs/leeroy_Final.jpg |
| 01:50.07 | grimman | Miravlix: You can prepare most things actually, if you feel like diving into the registry. ;D |
| 01:50.55 | Miravlix | I'm a Windows noob. |
| 01:50.59 | grimman | Ah. |
| 01:51.28 | Miravlix | Give me a Linux and I can write my own software to do everything, but in Windows, I can just barely start WoW. |
| 01:51.31 | grimman | ;) |
| 01:52.05 | grimman | I'm the opposite then. |
| 01:54.11 | Miravlix | What would I have to do in the registery? |
| 01:55.34 | grimman | Locate the keys to the software you're using and for which you want to preserve the settings. |
| 01:56.00 | Miravlix | Can't I just use the build in backup migrate? |
| 01:56.25 | grimman | Take mIRC for example, mIRC's keys are located in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\mIRC. |
| 01:56.36 | Miravlix | In case it requires a registery wipe. |
| 01:57.01 | Miravlix | I'm moving from one Nvidia card to another, so display should go fine. |
| 01:57.48 | grimman | If you're gonna re-install Windows from scratch you can export certain keys. You don't want to export them all for various reasons. |
| 01:58.03 | Miravlix | I just freshly installed a few weeks ago |
| 01:58.07 | grimman | If you're gonna try to get it running without re-installing Windows you don't need to do anything. |
| 01:58.15 | Miravlix | So everything the migration wizard takes is fine |
| 01:58.26 | grimman | I have no idea what that is. |
| 01:58.37 | grimman | Some built-in feature? |
| 01:58.43 | Miravlix | Windows has a build in wizzard to move from computer to computer |
| 01:58.50 | grimman | Hm, sounds interesting. |
| 01:59.04 | grimman | I still prefer to know exactly what's transferred though. |
| 01:59.18 | grimman | But that's me. ;) |
| 01:59.22 | Miravlix | That is more usefull due to all the crud |
| 01:59.35 | Miravlix | But with a fresh computer, I don't have crud in the registery. |
| 01:59.59 | grimman | What? How dare you under-estimate Windows? ;D |
| 02:00.20 | Miravlix | Well, it will have the old mobo drivers as crud, but I can live with that. |
| 02:00.54 | grimman | I actually don't think any tool made by Microsoft will transfer drivers/driver settings. |
| 02:01.19 | Miravlix | It's a Dekstop/Programs backup thingy. |
| 02:01.30 | Miravlix | Windows Migration Wizard or something |
| 02:02.40 | grimman | All I have is "Backup or Restor Wizard". |
| 02:02.51 | grimman | Restore* |
| 02:03.02 | Miravlix | yeah in Tools, System? |
| 02:03.10 | grimman | Something like that. |
| 02:03.21 | Miravlix | My Windows is Danish, so might be translating names wrong |
| 02:03.24 | grimman | Had to sift through the regular start menu folders to find it. |
| 02:04.02 | Miravlix | it transfairs over network and stuff, it's quite nice if it works |
| 02:04.04 | grimman | I'd check it out, but I don't trust it. |
| 02:04.14 | Miravlix | Can use a serial cable too |
| 02:04.31 | grimman | Next thing I know it might have backed all my stuff up to some shady Microsoft server. |
| 02:04.34 | Miravlix | Offcourse transfairing 300 GB over the serial port... not a good thing |
| 02:04.43 | grimman | ;P |
| 02:05.12 | AnduinLothar | ew |
| 02:05.20 | Miravlix | I can't quite get used to the fact that reading all data on my harddisk takes hours. |
| 02:05.21 | AnduinLothar | bad enough over usb 1.. |
| 02:05.28 | grimman | You'll have time to go out and work to earn a new one, wait for the paycheck, order the drive and set it up before a transfer that large is done over serial cable. |
| 02:05.41 | grimman | "a new one" == "a new disk". |
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| 02:06.27 | JoshBorke | exploring places = fun |
| 02:06.33 | JoshBorke | the crypt in kharazan :_) |
| 02:06.51 | grimman | Shhhhhh. |
| 02:06.57 | grimman | (yes it is, hehe) |
| 02:07.10 | JoshBorke | i want to get into kharazhan though :-/ |
| 02:10.08 | AnduinLothar | lol, undead female rogue, emoskatrgirl |
| 02:10.31 | ckknight | ~seen rophy |
| 02:10.34 | purl | i haven't seen 'rophy', ckknight |
| 02:12.45 | JoshBorke | hm, paladins make the best explorers |
| 02:13.12 | Miravlix | emoskatrgirl sounds like the girl in the FireFox advertisment |
| 02:13.52 | grimman | Rogues or mages imo. |
| 02:14.37 | Miravlix | Druids |
| 02:15.07 | Miravlix | Travel Form, Stealth. |
| 02:15.39 | grimman | Wherever travel form works, mounting works too. |
| 02:15.41 | grimman | So no. ;P |
| 02:15.52 | ckknight | who wrote ParserLib? |
| 02:15.57 | Miravlix | Uuh |
| 02:16.01 | Miravlix | Travel form works in combat |
| 02:16.17 | ckknight | it's used in rophy's Simple Combat Log |
| 02:16.26 | ckknight | looking at the code, some of it is...flawed |
| 02:17.13 | grimman | Miravlix: So do mounts... only difference is you can't actually mount in combat. |
| 02:17.21 | grimman | But you know all this. |
| 02:17.50 | zespri_work | does anybody knows what it depends on whether or nor you automaticaly dismount when you receive damage? |
| 02:17.57 | End | I consider it to be a fairly useful difference though |
| 02:18.02 | JoshBorke | mage for blink is true |
| 02:18.04 | End | I still use travel form :P |
| 02:18.06 | Miravlix | Thats the advantage and when you explore high level areas you risk getting dismounted |
| 02:18.25 | JoshBorke | daze dismounts |
| 02:18.28 | End | dash is nice too |
| 02:18.32 | Miravlix | due to dazed, The world best get away artist is the Druid and thats usefull for exploring |
| 02:18.56 | zespri_work | so there is no way for an enimy player to dismount you, since they can't daze? |
| 02:19.04 | JoshBorke | why? most of the best exploring places are unpopulated :-) |
| 02:19.11 | JoshBorke | sheep |
| 02:19.24 | JoshBorke | and a few others i don't remember |
| 02:19.25 | Miravlix | zespri: Almost true, it's a PvP complaint |
| 02:19.33 | Miravlix | Just Sheep I think |
| 02:19.49 | JoshBorke | sap maybe? |
| 02:19.56 | Miravlix | Nope |
| 02:20.11 | Miravlix | You just stand ontop of the mount with confusion/stuns |
| 02:20.16 | JoshBorke | ah |
| 02:20.23 | JoshBorke | gimme some more places to go! |
| 02:21.01 | AnduinLothar | the sepulcher |
| 02:21.14 | JoshBorke | where's that? |
| 02:21.18 | grimman | *snicker* |
| 02:21.21 | AnduinLothar | that's half the fun |
| 02:21.22 | zespri_work | oh ok thanks. Nice to have learnt that |
| 02:21.30 | Miravlix | Azshara, Feralas, Ungora, Plaguelands, etc. |
| 02:21.32 | JoshBorke | bah :-P i think i've been there once |
| 02:22.07 | JoshBorke | google ftw :-P |
| 02:22.25 | Miravlix | Winterspring? |
| 02:22.39 | JoshBorke | is it possible to go through the wall in silverpine? |
| 02:22.46 | Miravlix | You horde or alliance, the other sides towns is fun |
| 02:22.48 | AnduinLothar | try and see |
| 02:23.06 | AnduinLothar | try yojamba isle |
| 02:23.07 | Miravlix | Deadwind Pass |
| 02:23.33 | JoshBorke | i just got done in deadwind |
| 02:23.40 | JoshBorke | haven't found a way into kharazan |
| 02:24.33 | Miravlix | Elwynn Forest |
| 02:24.33 | JoshBorke | oh that's right, AnduinLothar works for blizzard |
| 02:24.38 | JoshBorke | i bet you know all the fun places :-P |
| 02:25.01 | Miravlix | Naah he came to his senses |
| 02:25.22 | AnduinLothar | Reventusk Village |
| 02:25.44 | Miravlix | The Air Plane Landing Pad in Dun Morogh |
| 02:26.02 | JoshBorke | i got there before they patched the easy path |
| 02:26.04 | AnduinLothar | the landing pad in Azshara |
| 02:26.08 | JoshBorke | i can't wall walk, not good enough :-( |
| 02:26.21 | JoshBorke | i've got a screenshot of the end of the world though! |
| 02:26.57 | AnduinLothar | Stormrage Barrow Dens |
| 02:27.15 | Miravlix | They moved the Stormwind King? |
| 02:27.24 | Miravlix | So can't visit him near Onyxia? |
| 02:27.27 | grimman | They did? |
| 02:27.37 | grimman | I have to check that out for myself. |
| 02:28.03 | Miravlix | I saw some reports of him being replaced with a goblin |
| 02:28.15 | Miravlix | But it was a while ago, dont' remember the details |
| 02:28.31 | grimman | *glare* |
| 02:28.39 | grimman | Definitely must see this. |
| 02:28.49 | JoshBorke | http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com:90/gallery/Warcraft/gasil_pondering_the_great_beyond |
| 02:29.12 | JoshBorke | i hate that island :-/ |
| 02:29.31 | JoshBorke | the caverns of time is a really weird place |
| 02:29.32 | Miravlix | Meow! Sold a White Kitten to some dumb horde for 7 gold |
| 02:29.57 | grimman | I haven't gone to the Caverns of Time. |
| 02:30.05 | grimman | Maybe I should before it's closed up. ;P |
| 02:30.32 | JoshBorke | the terrain is really weird |
| 02:32.36 | grimman | How would you say [Cadaverous Armor] compares to [Stormshroud Armor]? |
| 02:39.35 | JoshBorke | rogues ftl :-) |
| 02:40.11 | grimman | JoshBorke: Hm. Tidelord Rrurgaz. |
| 02:40.24 | grimman | Where the king used to be. |
| 02:40.26 | grimman | I think. |
| 02:40.42 | JoshBorke | ah, i'm going there myself :-P |
| 02:40.50 | JoshBorke | last time i went i got pwned by the guys around it |
| 02:40.59 | JoshBorke | which'll happen this time too, but at least i'm naked |
| 02:41.13 | grimman | ;P |
| 02:41.17 | grimman | Rogues ftw. ;D |
| 02:41.22 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 02:41.44 | JoshBorke | maybe i'll try to get into hyrule |
| 02:41.53 | grimman | Odd, there has been no sightings of the Tidelord according to Thott. |
| 02:41.54 | JoshBorke | er, wait, wrong game |
| 02:42.29 | JoshBorke | whatever that zone is that big and next to feralas :-P |
| 02:44.44 | JoshBorke | ha! i forgot they put doctor weevil on the island |
| 02:46.35 | grimman | =) |
| 02:46.57 | JoshBorke | man, i'm so bored when i can't get into ZG |
| 02:47.48 | grimman | Haven't got alot of time to explore the place though, gotta help a guildie. |
| 02:49.44 | JoshBorke | think i can take him? |
| 02:49.57 | grimman | Depends on your class I guess. |
| 02:50.00 | grimman | And gear. |
| 02:50.03 | grimman | And skill. |
| 02:50.42 | JoshBorke | healerdin/noob :D |
| 02:50.50 | JoshBorke | but it says on alla he's a pushover |
| 02:52.48 | grimman | I should have checked Allakh before I left I guess. ;P |
| 02:53.36 | JoshBorke | he doesn't drop anything nice |
| 02:54.55 | grimman | I still want him dead. ;P |
| 02:55.13 | JoshBorke | he has 20k life and was only hitting me for 200 |
| 02:55.24 | JoshBorke | and dropped 7s :-( |
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| 03:20.28 | grimman | Done with Caverns of Time now. ;P |
| 03:20.50 | grimman | Guildie logged off just seconds before I HSed, guess he got tired of waiting. |
| 03:22.02 | zespri_work | guys, in your personal expirience, how long does it usually take to get into a BG? like in average? I tried 5-6 times but always gave up after about 2-3 hours of waiting time |
| 03:22.47 | ckknight | you Horde or Alliance? |
| 03:22.53 | zespri_work | horde |
| 03:23.03 | ckknight | depends on the server |
| 03:23.09 | ckknight | I've gotten in one after another for 8 hours in a row |
| 03:23.24 | ckknight | then again, there have been times (middle of the night) where I didn't get in for 6 hours |
| 03:25.07 | zespri_work | right |
| 03:26.04 | zespri_work | maybe it's because lower level BG are less popular or something |
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| 03:26.15 | grimman | On my server where Alliance outnumbers Horde it takes forever to get in. |
| 03:26.38 | zespri_work | alliance outnuber horder on every server i think |
| 03:27.12 | grimman | That would be logical, but I don't know. |
| 03:29.19 | JoshBorke | ( grimman ): isn't it nifty? |
| 03:29.34 | grimman | HUh? |
| 03:29.40 | JoshBorke | caverns of time :-) |
| 03:29.47 | JoshBorke | i like the floating boats |
| 03:29.50 | grimman | Oh sure. |
| 03:29.55 | grimman | I didn't see that. |
| 03:30.08 | grimman | I had textures all the way down to the instance entrances. |
| 03:31.14 | JoshBorke | hrm, i didn't get a picture of the boat :-/ |
| 03:31.27 | grimman | Which is totally unlike what I've seen in ~all the movies showing CoT so far. |
| 03:31.50 | JoshBorke | http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com:90/gallery/CavernsofTime/WoWScrnShot_052605_124231 i like that one too |
| 03:33.07 | JoshBorke | hm, you got into it right? |
| 03:33.12 | grimman | I can't say for sure, but that looks alot like the orc-style house in there. |
| 03:33.14 | grimman | Of course. |
| 03:33.38 | grimman | Can I assume you've seen the different houses merged into the walls there? |
| 03:34.22 | JoshBorke | it's been a long time since i've been in there :-/ |
| 03:36.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | <grimman> I had textures all the way down to the instance entrances. |
| 03:36.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | the first time i went about a year ago there were textures |
| 03:36.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | when i first heard about it |
| 03:36.30 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/goingback.jpg |
| 03:36.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | then something bugged or something and the textures were missing, it was a pretty nifty effect |
| 03:36.48 | grimman | Me going back out. ;P |
| 03:36.48 | grimman | Mr_Rabies2: Well, I didn't get that effect. |
| 03:36.52 | grimman | I should have frapsed it I guess. |
| 03:37.14 | grimman | That's actually the only screenshot I took. |
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| 03:38.23 | grimman | But hm... my client hasn't been re-installed since the beta days... maybe that has something to do with it. |
| 03:39.26 | JoshBorke | the textures glitch farther in |
| 03:39.36 | grimman | Wrong. |
| 03:39.39 | grimman | Not on my client. |
| 03:39.42 | JoshBorke | i see |
| 03:39.59 | JoshBorke | i'll go back tonight and fraps it |
| 03:40.03 | grimman | Like I said, I was all the way down. |
| 03:40.15 | JoshBorke | interesting |
| 03:40.15 | grimman | By the instance entrancers and the big hour glass. |
| 03:40.36 | grimman | entrances* |
| 03:40.48 | grimman | If I can be arsed to go back I'll fraps it. |
| 03:41.40 | grimman | I deleted my recordings of Karazhan so I didn't think it'd be worth recording the Caverns. ;P |
| 03:43.07 | grimman | Anyway, I'm off for bed. |
| 03:44.25 | JoshBorke | wait! |
| 03:44.33 | JoshBorke | how'd you get in to karazhan? |
| 03:56.14 | zespri_work | is there a site that lists most populat build for all classes? I don;t like wowvault because it's just a collection of rundom builds which may be good or may be bad |
| 03:56.28 | zespri_work | Just want to know the cookie cutter builds for all classes |
| 03:57.12 | AnduinLothar | ew cookie cutter bad |
| 03:58.12 | zespri_work | cookie cutter is good, that's why it's cookie cutter |
| 03:58.35 | zespri_work | otherwise ppl wouldn't use it and it wouldn't become cookie cutter |
| 03:58.49 | AnduinLothar | be origonal |
| 03:59.00 | zespri_work | it's a different matter =) |
| 03:59.23 | zespri_work | and original is not always good either |
| 04:00.04 | zespri_work | if some people have more expirience and more talanted wow players then I let them share, why not to build up upon their expirience? |
| 04:03.06 | AnduinLothar | hax lern2play |
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| 04:30.48 | Cairenn|sleep | night all |
| 04:31.02 | AnduinLothar | night cair |
| 04:33.01 | JoshBorke | night cair |
| 04:41.24 | MentalPower | night Cair |
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| 06:41.31 | s|loup | hi |
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| 07:38.12 | AnduinLothar | zomg Peacekeeper Gauntlets |
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| 07:40.33 | AnduinLothar | healadin ftw |
| 07:41.02 | AnduinLothar | zomg +380 healing +94spell damage + 38mp/5 |
| 07:43.10 | Kalroth | :D |
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| 07:50.14 | AnduinLothar | + ZHC |
| 08:01.15 | ckknight | is there any way to tell blank from explicit nil? () vs. (nil) |
| 08:01.24 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 08:01.42 | AnduinLothar | you could explicit false tho |
| 08:04.58 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 08:12.40 | krka|work | ckknight, i think there is, but i forgot how |
| 08:13.45 | ckknight | krka|work, apparently only from the C interface |
| 08:14.04 | krka|work | no |
| 08:14.11 | krka|work | i saw a lua script for it once |
| 08:14.45 | ckknight | you can with ... |
| 08:14.51 | ckknight | but I don't want to do that |
| 08:15.01 | ckknight | cause it requires unpacking and such |
| 08:20.45 | krka|work | not sure why you'd need to know :) |
| 08:28.39 | Miravlix | You want to know if no one has ever used a variable/function? |
| 08:29.14 | Miravlix | Used as in asigned to it |
| 08:29.58 | _B | Just assign to it a value that it will never have during normal operation when it is initialized |
| 08:30.17 | _B | So if it's acceptable range is 0-100 then initialize it to -1 and check for that |
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| 09:30.53 | Miravlix | Hmm, have I written a general purpose system to travel tables and decay there data. |
| 09:31.20 | Kalroth | I don't know, only one person can answer that! |
| 09:33.39 | Miravlix | Doing /script TTLib.CheckTable( Lix_Temp, "timeStamp", 2, 30, TTLIB_DAY ) does nothing, so not sure. |
| 09:35.30 | Miravlix | Aah, checking for a parameter that doesn't get set and doing a return stopped me. :) |
| 09:37.22 | Miravlix | When I write the timeStamp updater, I can decay anyones saved variable table. |
| 09:38.07 | Miravlix | Offcourse it's going to be hard to make a general purpose timeStamp updater, since I need to know current char to update it. |
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| 09:44.48 | Miravlix | Hmm, a slight snag, you can't getglobal("data." .. name) a local variable? |
| 09:45.18 | Miravlix | Well, ever mind I can just do data[name] |
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| 10:56.24 | ckknight | anyone German still up? |
| 10:57.16 | ckknight | I need translations for "Amount" and "Per hour" |
| 11:00.31 | Maldivia | it's 1pm in Germany right now, so a good chance :) |
| 11:00.46 | Kirkburn | You could try babel or something |
| 11:00.49 | ckknight | no one's responding |
| 11:00.53 | ckknight | Kirkburn, I'd rather not |
| 11:00.56 | Kirkburn | I should know myself though |
| 11:01.00 | Maldivia | in what context |
| 11:01.08 | ckknight | "Amount" in terms of capital |
| 11:01.20 | Maldivia | "per hour", is "pro Stunde" |
| 11:01.24 | ckknight | amount of gold that you got from a time period |
| 11:01.33 | Kirkburn | yeah, pro Stunde |
| 11:01.40 | ckknight | okay |
| 11:01.40 | Maldivia | hmm, Geldmenge |
| 11:01.54 | ckknight | thanks |
| 11:01.59 | ckknight | this is for MoneyFu |
| 11:02.33 | Maldivia | my german is a bit rusty, but had 6 years of german lessons, so something should still stick :) |
| 11:02.50 | ckknight | only 3 years here :-P |
| 11:03.27 | Maldivia | hmm, amount of gold... Gold Menge... |
| 11:03.40 | s|loup | Gold pro Stunde is working fine |
| 11:04.29 | Maldivia | ckknight: btw, I molested MoneyFu for my own use :9 |
| 11:05.05 | ckknight | oh? |
| 11:05.15 | Maldivia | changed the gold per week, to all time gold :) |
| 11:05.28 | Maldivia | since I started on a new server, I wanted to keep track of it |
| 11:06.21 | Maldivia | just changed the 7 days old purge, so it summed it up instead :) |
| 11:06.30 | ckknight | there is a total gold thing |
| 11:06.41 | Maldivia | well, not in the version I'm using |
| 11:06.44 | ckknight | oh |
| 11:06.47 | ckknight | old version, then |
| 11:06.53 | ckknight | check out the new one |
| 11:06.55 | ckknight | it's shiny |
| 11:06.58 | ckknight | just committed |
| 11:07.01 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 11:07.30 | Maldivia | I was quite amazed, how much gold I had actually got and spend, when I hit 40 :) |
| 11:08.20 | Maldivia | ofcourse, if I should keep up with the latest version of fubar, and its modules, I would have to check wowi every 4th hour or so |
| 11:10.54 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 11:13.29 | Maldivia | howdy Kaso |
| 11:13.35 | Kaso | Afternoon |
| 11:14.25 | Kaso | ever time i see you on that damn gnome on the forums it confuses me, i cant picture you as gnome |
| 11:16.03 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 11:16.13 | Maldivia | should I post as a human on the EU forums aswell? |
| 11:16.58 | Maldivia | figured, since I had no posting history on the EU forums, and I could actually use my mage to post with, I might aswell do that :9 |
| 11:17.57 | Kaso | Human is better, gnomes are just wrong, in so many ways |
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| 11:18.13 | Kaso | So do you have a US account as well? |
| 11:18.23 | Maldivia | yes |
| 11:18.36 | Maldivia | I just recently reactivated my EU account, like 2 weeks ago or so |
| 11:18.55 | Maldivia | been playing on US since release |
| 11:18.56 | ckknight | Maldivia, I haven't updated in a week |
| 11:19.01 | ckknight | before that, I didn't update for a weke |
| 11:19.04 | ckknight | week* |
| 11:19.07 | ckknight | I think that's a good pace for me now |
| 11:19.23 | Maldivia | ckknight: well, in periods, you've had several updated á day |
| 11:19.51 | ckknight | I know |
| 11:20.12 | Maldivia | Kaso: and my main playing char has always been a gnome - although he doesn't look anything like the icons on the boards |
| 11:21.25 | Maldivia | Kaso: http://nerdheaven.dk/~the_real/wow/gnome.jpg |
| 11:21.47 | Kaso | ha ha ha |
| 11:21.59 | Kaso | gnomes are wierd |
| 11:22.12 | ckknight | how do I test if a number is not a number? e.g. 0 / 0 |
| 11:22.32 | Kaso | type(thing) ? |
| 11:22.42 | Maldivia | if math.isnan(num) then ? |
| 11:22.44 | ckknight | NaN |
| 11:22.57 | Kaso | oh, NaN silly me |
| 11:23.05 | ckknight | math.isnan doesn't exist |
| 11:23.15 | Maldivia | bugger, then it's 5.1 |
| 11:23.17 | krka|work | if num * 2 == num? :) |
| 11:23.41 | ckknight | 0 / 0 ~= 0 / 0 |
| 11:23.46 | ckknight | so that doesn't help |
| 11:23.51 | ckknight | it works for infinity |
| 11:23.53 | ckknight | not for NaN |
| 11:24.01 | ckknight | I think I got a way |
| 11:24.13 | ckknight | not (num < 0 or num >= 0) |
| 11:24.15 | Maldivia | what returns NaN in lua ? |
| 11:24.22 | ckknight | they both do, Maldivia |
| 11:24.31 | ckknight | it's freaky weird |
| 11:24.31 | krka|work | if all tests fail |
| 11:24.36 | krka|work | a = 0 / 0 |
| 11:24.54 | krka|work | if not a > 2*a and not a < 2*a and not a == a then // nan end |
| 11:25.15 | ckknight | my way's cleaner, I think :-P |
| 11:25.22 | Maldivia | PINF = 1/0 NINF = -1/0 NAN = 0/0 if num == NAN then ? |
| 11:25.27 | ckknight | no, Maldivia |
| 11:25.36 | ckknight | because as I said before, 0 / 0 ~= 0 / 0 |
| 11:25.47 | Maldivia | ohh, missed that line |
| 11:25.56 | krka|work | yeah, yours is probably cleaner : |
| 11:26.05 | Maldivia | > =(0/0 == 0/0) |
| 11:26.05 | Maldivia | true |
| 11:26.57 | ckknight | oh |
| 11:27.01 | Maldivia | are there any other equations that results in NaN that 0/0 |
| 11:27.06 | ckknight | not in WoW |
| 11:27.17 | ckknight | in WoW, a = 0 / 0; a ~= a |
| 11:27.49 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 11:27.54 | krka|work | try arctan(2) or something |
| 11:28.00 | krka|work | no wait, arcsin(2) |
| 11:28.25 | ckknight | why, krka|work? |
| 11:28.34 | Maldivia | yeah ok |
| 11:28.57 | ckknight | I'm checking value ~= value now |
| 11:28.58 | krka|work | > print(math.asin(2)) |
| 11:28.58 | krka|work | nan |
| 11:29.05 | Maldivia | > print(math.asin(2) == 0/0) |
| 11:29.05 | Maldivia | true |
| 11:29.28 | krka|work | wtf? |
| 11:29.39 | ckknight | Maldivia, using lua 5.0 or 5.1? |
| 11:29.42 | krka|work | > print(math.asin(2) == 0/0) |
| 11:29.42 | krka|work | false |
| 11:29.55 | krka|work | (i am running 5.0.2) |
| 11:30.03 | ckknight | I'm doing it in WoW |
| 11:30.07 | Maldivia | yeah ok, 5.1 |
| 11:30.51 | Maldivia | another reason to get slouken to upgrade to 5.1... :9 |
| 11:31.34 | krka|work | might break code |
| 11:32.12 | Maldivia | local t = [expression]; |
| 11:32.19 | Maldivia | if t ~= t then NaN end |
| 11:32.28 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 11:32.33 | Maldivia | in WoW lua |
| 11:33.00 | krka|work | cool, inf = info |
| 11:33.01 | krka|work | err |
| 11:33.03 | krka|work | inf == inf |
| 11:33.17 | ckknight | yea |
| 11:33.24 | ckknight | and -inf == ninf |
| 11:33.41 | ckknight | and inf * 2 == inf |
| 11:33.49 | krka|work | > print(1/0 == 2/0) |
| 11:33.49 | krka|work | true |
| 11:34.18 | Maldivia | if math.abs(t) == 1/0 then +/- INF end |
| 11:34.52 | Maldivia | so now you have a way to check for NaN (if the variable is not itself - very funny :) |
| 11:34.55 | Maldivia | and a way to check for inf |
| 11:35.44 | Maldivia | function math.isNaN(v) return v ~= v end function math.isInf(v) return math.abs(v) == 1/0 end |
| 11:36.21 | krka|work | inf-detector: |
| 11:36.41 | krka|work | x > x - 1 |
| 11:36.48 | krka|work | hmm... no wait |
| 11:36.54 | krka|work | if x == x - 1 then +inf end |
| 11:37.18 | Maldivia | well == 1/0 works just fine in wow lua :) |
| 11:37.27 | Maldivia | likewise == -1/0 |
| 11:37.38 | krka|work | this is the easiest way though, but most boring |
| 11:37.46 | krka|work | if tonumber(x) == "inf" then |
| 11:37.56 | ckknight | Elkano, alive? |
| 11:38.03 | ckknight | I don't get your feature request |
| 11:38.14 | ckknight | because if I understand you, I've had the feature since the beginning |
| 11:38.14 | Maldivia | krka: hmm, it returns "inf" ? |
| 11:38.25 | ckknight | no, krka|work |
| 11:38.26 | ckknight | that's wrong |
| 11:38.34 | ckknight | I think |
| 11:39.08 | Maldivia | on 5.1, tonumber(1/0) => "1.#INF" - tostring returns the same |
| 11:39.36 | krka|work | 5.0: tonumber(1/0) => "inf" |
| 11:39.46 | krka|work | 5.0: tonumber(-1/0) => "-inf" |
| 11:39.51 | krka|work | 5.0: tonumber(0/0) => "nan" |
| 11:40.55 | Maldivia | well, wouldn't it be better to use tostring ? :) |
| 11:41.14 | Maldivia | if type(v) == "number" and tostring(v) == "nan" then |
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| 11:44.33 | ckknight | krka|work, that's not what you get in WoW |
| 11:44.33 | ckknight | hey netcurse |
| 11:45.17 | krka|work | i see... but you get something useful? |
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| 11:54.50 | MoonWolf | http://trappleton.com/uploader/data/exmen.jpg |
| 11:56.40 | Kaso | Anyone good with apache, php and other realated things. |
| 11:57.32 | ckknight | Kaso, yea, sorta |
| 11:58.48 | Kaso | I want to make my host return an image if someone gets a 404 error when looking for an image, I know i have to do some stuff in .htaccess and ive gotta do some script thing, but ive never really done any of that before so im looking for advice |
| 12:00.48 | ckknight | ah, I don't know |
| 12:00.52 | ckknight | sorry |
| 12:01.25 | Kaso | thanks anyway. |
| 12:01.28 | ckknight | Anyone German here? |
| 12:01.43 | ckknight | I need the names of all the races in singular form |
| 12:01.45 | ckknight | I have the plurals |
| 12:03.38 | ckknight | same with French |
| 12:10.31 | Maldivia | hmm... Zwerg, Mensch, Nachtelf, Untot |
| 12:11.10 | Maldivia | well, depends if they are male or female :) |
| 12:11.21 | ckknight | hrm |
| 12:11.26 | ckknight | assume male |
| 12:11.35 | Maldivia | male gnome: Gnom, female gnome: Gnomin |
| 12:12.02 | ckknight | then I'd guess Orc, Troll, Tauren stay the same |
| 12:12.26 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 12:13.25 | s|loup | its Untoter |
| 12:13.36 | s|loup | or Untote for female |
| 12:13.59 | ckknight | alright |
| 12:14.13 | ckknight | how does it show in game? s|loup? |
| 12:14.34 | Maldivia | s|loup: you sure? |
| 12:14.37 | s|loup | yes |
| 12:17.48 | ckknight | does this mean I'm gonna have to have separate male/female for each singular? |
| 12:17.49 | ckknight | blah |
| 12:17.59 | ckknight | damn you and your non-transsexual friendly languages |
| 12:17.59 | Maldivia | so untoter is the term for the "class", and untot is the term for the state? |
| 12:18.08 | s|loup | wait im checking if i can find a screenshot |
| 12:20.26 | Elkano | ok, ck, here I am agian :) |
| 12:21.28 | ckknight | hey |
| 12:21.42 | ckknight | I don't get your feature request |
| 12:21.59 | Elkano | so there is a option to make a specific point of the tabletlib frame fix in order to have it resice/shrinke in its oposide directions? |
| 12:22.23 | ckknight | yes |
| 12:22.56 | Elkano | in the rightclick menu? |
| 12:23.13 | ckknight | rightclick? |
| 12:23.26 | ckknight | that's the dewdrop frame |
| 12:24.09 | Elkano | no, I mean if you rightclick on a tabletlib frame |
| 12:24.20 | Elkano | or how do I set this ficed point? |
| 12:28.50 | s|loup | ok as i said its dependend on the sexual of the char |
| 12:28.58 | s|loup | Untoter/Untote |
| 12:30.20 | ckknight | sorry, I'm sleepy |
| 12:30.29 | ckknight | this ill contiue tomorrow maybe |
| 12:30.39 | Elkano | afair orc is written with k in German: Ork |
| 12:30.55 | ckknight | why is the plural Orcs, then? |
| 12:31.16 | Elkano | is it? hmm... |
| 12:31.50 | Elkano | oh, ok... Blizzard wrote it with c |
| 12:33.23 | Maldivia | it's Orc, Tauren and Troll in French aswell |
| 12:33.29 | s|loup | yes its not logical why they say orc in german |
| 12:33.48 | s|loup | mostly write Ork instead of Orc |
| 12:34.59 | Maldivia | hmm, isn't there a API function to retrieve the name of the races ? |
| 12:35.06 | Maldivia | in a localized version |
| 12:35.20 | Maldivia | beside UnitRace(unit) |
| 12:35.55 | s|loup | UnitRace |
| 12:35.58 | s|loup | hm |
| 12:36.23 | s|loup | thought that this function give localized name |
| 12:37.04 | Maldivia | it does, but you have to have a unit :9 |
| 12:37.28 | Maldivia | so you could do something like for i = 1, 8 do GetRaceName(i) end |
| 12:38.51 | Maldivia | local localized, global = UnitRace(unit) |
| 12:39.50 | Maldivia | or well, global is the internal race name |
| 12:43.56 | s|loup | but for what do you need such a function beside the problem of ckknight ? ^^ |
| 12:54.04 | Maldivia | well, there must be such a function - since it's used in the glues, unless it's hardcoded there |
| 12:54.18 | Maldivia | the question is, if it's a glue-only function or not |
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| 14:36.26 | netcurse | yo ckknight |
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| 14:57.04 | Cairenn | hey Kirkburn, you there? |
| 15:02.37 | Shouryuu|Stalked | lol |
| 15:02.46 | Shouryuu|Stalked | Useless and old... |
| 15:03.28 | Kalroth | awww |
| 15:03.32 | Kalroth | Kirkburn isn't old! |
| 15:03.40 | Shouryuu|Stalked | The Queen is! |
| 15:03.52 | Shouryuu|Stalked | And you don't know that Kirkburn isn't old... |
| 15:04.04 | Shouryuu|Stalked | for all you know he could be a 80 year old grand-pa! |
| 15:04.14 | Kalroth | eeep |
| 15:04.31 | Kirkburn | Kids these days .... |
| 15:04.33 | Kalroth | Can't be, he shows as 17 years old on his ICQ profile! |
| 15:04.39 | Shouryuu|Stalked | lol |
| 15:05.37 | Cairenn | shouryuu, you're bored, aren't you? |
| 15:05.41 | deklatS|uuyruohS | derob |
| 15:05.43 | deklatS|uuyruohS | lol yes |
| 15:06.08 | Kalroth | Cairenn: I'm not bored! |
| 15:06.15 | deklatS|uuyruohS | I guess I'll translate Fu Bar BG for hyperactivechimpmunk dude |
| 15:06.23 | Cairenn | hehehe, how ya doing Kalroth? |
| 15:06.25 | Kirkburn | ICQ profile?!? |
| 15:06.37 | Kirkburn | God, I wonder when I last logged into that ... |
| 15:06.46 | Kirkburn | I'm 21 btw |
| 15:06.55 | deklatS|uuyruohS | That's what they all say... |
| 15:06.59 | Kalroth | Cairenn: Lots of coffee, it's past 5pm and I'm still at work. Yup, just dandy! |
| 15:07.06 | Cairenn | ewww =/ |
| 15:08.15 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: I just made it up, I don't stalk people (much) |
| 15:08.29 | KirkburnrubkriK | heh |
| 15:08.31 | deklatS|uuyruohS | hehe |
| 15:09.32 | deklatS|uuyruohS | Gawd I hate the word Toggle.. Impossible to translate... And you english speaking people just put it everywhere! |
| 15:09.53 | KirkburnrubkriK | Toggly toggle toggle |
| 15:09.59 | deklatS|uuyruohS | lol |
| 15:17.26 | deklatS|uuyruohS | Why doesn't stuff like alt+233 work on laptops? |
| 15:20.04 | Maldivia | are you using the numerical keyboard on the laptop, or the one above the letters? |
| 15:20.17 | deklatS|uuyruohS | Aye |
| 15:20.56 | Maldivia | well, aye to which of the questions ? |
| 15:21.31 | deklatS|uuyruohS | Sorr, the one above the keyboard. I'm just curious as to why it works on a num pad, but not that one :P |
| 15:22.06 | Maldivia | it only works on num pads... |
| 15:22.08 | Maldivia | on stationary aswell |
| 15:22.32 | Maldivia | so activate the num pad on your laptop, and it'll work |
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| 15:41.34 | wereHamster | Is PEW dispatched when the player enters or leaves battleground? |
| 15:42.00 | Cide | yes, since you zone |
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| 15:57.40 | deklatS|uuyruohS | God doesn't want me to watch something with subtitles today |
| 15:57.51 | deklatS|uuyruohS | That's the 4th file with subs I'm trying to open, and they never show up |
| 15:57.56 | JoshBorke | dewdroplib ftl :-( |
| 15:58.10 | Elkano | which player? mpc? vlc? |
| 15:58.16 | deklatS|uuyruohS | all of 'em |
| 15:58.17 | deklatS|uuyruohS | nada |
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| 15:59.05 | deklatS|uuyruohS | Akira which worked fine jsut won't show them anymore :( |
| 15:59.37 | KirkburnrubkriK | ?deklatS|uuyruohS, seltitbus evah yeht erus er'uoy |
| 15:59.56 | KirkburnrubkriK | ddo v |
| 16:00.11 | Elkano | both mpc and vlc fail? than there IS sth wrong... |
| 16:00.13 | KirkburnrubkriK | !toober |
| 16:00.24 | Maldivia | ?yadot yad drawkcab klat ti si, oon ,hho |
| 16:00.37 | KirkburnrubkriK | ?on |
| 16:00.47 | KirkburnrubkriK | uh ... |
| 16:00.51 | deklatS|uuyruohS | ?onnud |
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| 16:01.11 | KirkburnrubkriK | !!deklatS|uuyruohS, emalb |
| 16:01.12 | deklatS|uuyruohS | KirkburnrubkriK heay erus etiuq mI'm quite sure yeah |
| 16:01.15 | deklatS|uuyruohS | aarrgh |
| 16:01.18 | deklatS|uuyruohS | lol |
| 16:01.19 | Elkano | are we all mad? |
| 16:01.25 | KirkburnrubkriK | lolololol |
| 16:01.59 | Schizo|uuyruohS | And yes KirkburnrubkriK I'm sure htey have subs |
| 16:02.06 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Senn the movie like 10 times |
| 16:02.13 | KirkburnrubkriK | Haven't we had this fun before? |
| 16:02.27 | Schizo|uuyruohS | And unless I was fluent in japaness back when I saw them.. |
| 16:02.31 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Nope, not in a while |
| 16:03.45 | nrubkriK|Psycho | This is fun, eh |
| 16:03.50 | Cairenn | >< |
| 16:04.10 | nrubkriK|Psycho | Oooh, hello there - computer not blown up then? |
| 16:04.15 | Maldivia | Cairenn: no no, that would be: <> :) |
| 16:04.16 | zenzio | what happened to your nose? |
| 16:04.50 | nrubkriK|Psycho | People often steal noses, y'know |
| 16:05.00 | nrubkriK|Psycho | My uncle's still got mine :P |
| 16:05.24 | zenzio | where did I hear that... |
| 16:05.24 | JoshBorke | morning Cairenn! |
| 16:05.30 | Cairenn | hi JoshBorke |
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| 16:22.49 | nrubkriK|Psycho | Anyone heard of Nerina Pallot? |
| 16:26.27 | Crispix | Wikipedia has.. o_O |
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| 16:28.07 | Cide | heh, looping through a table and removing records from it simultaneously is quite annoying |
| 16:29.10 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 16:29.41 | Cide | I guess the easiest solution is to put all the valid records (the ones I don't remove) into a new table, and replace the old one with the new one.. |
| 16:29.58 | nrubkriK|Psycho | Crispix, I'm listening to her album, that's why I mentioned it - it's really good :) |
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| 16:57.34 | JoshBorke | /cry |
| 16:57.39 | JoshBorke | no more premade chars :-( |
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| 16:58.30 | JoshBorke | wait, nvm, i'm dumb |
| 16:58.31 | JoshBorke | wb Cairenn |
| 16:59.06 | Cairenn | hi again |
| 17:01.55 | JoshBorke | wow, the 1.11 ptr requires 5gb free space? |
| 17:01.57 | JoshBorke | crap |
| 17:02.22 | JoshBorke | is it possible to relocate my wow folder? without reinstalling? |
| 17:02.59 | Cide | yes, but you'd have to do some registry modifications |
| 17:03.08 | JoshBorke | i can handle that |
| 17:03.56 | Cide | should be good to go, then |
| 17:04.49 | JoshBorke | happen to know the registry entries off the top of your head? |
| 17:05.21 | JoshBorke | or should i just continue my find for Warcaft entries? |
| 17:05.53 | Cide | just search for World of Warcraft, they should all be in the same place |
| 17:06.13 | JoshBorke | ok, thanks cide :-) |
| 17:06.32 | Cide | likely inside HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\World of Warcraft :) |
| 17:07.09 | JoshBorke | yep, got that one :D |
| 17:07.19 | JoshBorke | now i just have to wait on it to finish copying... |
| 17:07.54 | nrubkriK|Psycho | Damn registry |
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| 17:44.50 | nrubkriK|Psycho | Awwww, I just found that one of my neighbours is a veritable cat woman! She must have something like 20 cats and kittens ... sooooooo cute! |
| 17:46.51 | Kaso | if by cute you mean freakishly scary then yeh! |
| 17:47.03 | nrubkriK|Psycho | :( |
| 17:47.05 | nrubkriK|Psycho | Cute! |
| 17:47.39 | Kaso | give me a nice dog any day |
| 17:48.03 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Oh no... |
| 17:48.09 | Schizo|uuyruohS | not the cat vs dogs debate... |
| 17:55.44 | Kaso | its not really a debate, its just unjustifiable opinions. |
| 17:58.31 | Schizo|uuyruohS | :P |
| 18:01.07 | Kaso | Fullscreen windows like the Map are meant to clear all popup dialoges right? |
| 18:02.12 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Aye |
| 18:03.10 | Kaso | it seems to send a Decline Responce for the Group invite one but the dialog is left up on the screen |
| 18:12.01 | haste | aaaw |
| 18:12.33 | Schizo|uuyruohS | my computer is so slooooow, I can't even watch a movie... It.. stuters... |
| 18:12.34 | haste | reroll Linux! |
| 18:12.48 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Hehe tried but my installs keep failing |
| 18:12.55 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Kubuntu and Ubuntu both hated me |
| 18:13.02 | haste | :( |
| 18:13.09 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Yup =( |
| 18:13.28 | zenzio | my mini-ITX didn't like the 2.6 kernel... or I compiled it incorrectly. I seemed to get really poor performance somehow o_O |
| 18:14.26 | haste | I would guess that you did something wrong |
| 18:15.31 | zenzio | most likely, I just didn't figure what; but then again I can never remember exactly what to compile and what to leave out \o/ |
| 18:15.45 | zenzio | was amazed I even got the USB mouse working |
| 18:15.46 | Schizo|uuyruohS | ok my CPU usage is always around 50-70%... that's bad |
| 18:16.18 | zenzio | which program(s) is hogging the CPU? |
| 18:16.43 | Schizo|uuyruohS | hummm ashServ.exe.. |
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| 18:17.17 | Schizo|uuyruohS | avast... |
| 18:17.19 | zenzio | anti-virus? |
| 18:17.31 | zenzio | it's not running a system scan or something? |
| 18:17.43 | Schizo|uuyruohS | shouldn't be |
| 18:17.48 | Schizo|uuyruohS | never asked for one |
| 18:17.50 | Schizo|uuyruohS | aaahh hfar better |
| 18:17.51 | zenzio | check it anyway |
| 18:17.55 | Schizo|uuyruohS | DIE AVAST DIE! |
| 18:18.03 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Just turned it off |
| 18:18.58 | Schizo|uuyruohS | damn.... x^a=exp(a*ln(x)) right? |
| 18:19.26 | krka | hm |
| 18:19.30 | krka | looks about right |
| 18:20.13 | krka | x^a = e^(ln(x^a)) = e^(a*ln(x)).... yup currect |
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| 18:20.44 | Schizo|uuyruohS | cool |
| 18:25.52 | wereHamster | yay.. UnitName("playertarget") seems to work :) |
| 18:26.53 | zenzio | is playertarget different from target? |
| 18:27.45 | wereHamster | no, but it used to return nil.. |
| 18:27.53 | zenzio | aha |
| 18:34.09 | Kaso | I sware if i see another Model Changing thread on the wow UI forums im going to cry. |
| 18:35.03 | grimman | Sware, he says. *snicker* |
| 18:35.12 | grimman | I wish Blizzard would just disable it alltogether. |
| 18:37.22 | grimman | And I also wish people would stop calling me while I'm reading. |
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| 18:39.36 | zenzio | don't answer the phone then ;) |
| 18:40.49 | grimman | Trust me, if you've ever heard my custom ring signal for annoying people you'll want to answer it ASAP. |
| 18:41.01 | grimman | And by custom I mean highly annoying. ;P |
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| 18:43.51 | Kaso | my phone has the ctu ring tone ^.^ |
| 18:44.17 | grimman | The whatnow-ring tone? |
| 18:44.18 | krka | i had one too, but it was too hard to hear :/ |
| 18:44.31 | krka | now i'm going for as loud and annoying as possible |
| 18:44.36 | krka | that way i cant miss it |
| 18:44.39 | Kaso | CTU from 24 grimman |
| 18:44.46 | grimman | My ring tone sounds like an ambulance, with all high-pitch tones. |
| 18:44.57 | grimman | Kaso: Of course. Carry on. |
| 18:45.04 | grimman | /ignore Kaso ;) |
| 18:45.22 | Kaso | http://www.ccir.ed.ac.uk/~jad/CTU24.mp3 = own |
| 18:46.05 | grimman | Annoying. |
| 18:46.19 | grimman | I'll record mine. ;P |
| 18:47.00 | grimman | Oh, I wasn't using the ambulance one for the annoying people. My bad. |
| 18:48.17 | Kaso | Im usually against all ringtones, i want my phone to sound as much like a phone as possible when it rings, but no a days phones dont even sound like phones when you have the default tones :< |
| 18:49.31 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/ -> ring.mp3 -- Careful, turn down your speakers if you care anything at all about your hearing. ;P |
| 18:49.32 | Maldivia | I hate billing day :| |
| 18:50.26 | Kaso | thats a pretty cool directory listing, whats powering that? |
| 18:50.32 | grimman | PHP |
| 18:50.49 | Kaso | anything inpatiular that a noob can download and install? |
| 18:50.54 | grimman | Nop. |
| 18:51.03 | Kaso | darn |
| 18:51.06 | grimman | A friend of mine wrote that for me. |
| 18:51.12 | grimman | I'm not allowed to republish the code. |
| 18:51.31 | krka | damn it, now you're making me look |
| 18:51.44 | Kaso | ok np, that ringtone reminds me 10k.mp3 i had on my Ipod for a while and liked to slip into playlists when people wanted to borrow my ipod |
| 18:52.59 | grimman | The design, however, is all mine. ;) |
| 18:54.18 | Kaso | ive recently bought me some hosting, im looking for a image-shack esque script that'll let me upload pictures, plus give me a nice thumbnail of it, i saw one on Somethingawful a few weeks ago but cant find it anymore :< |
| 18:54.50 | grimman | Hm. I'm actually supposed to be working on a gallery script right now. |
| 18:55.36 | Maldivia | Kaso: it takes 5 minutes to create such a script :) |
| 18:55.50 | Maldivia | and then several hours, to make the design, so it looks pretty... |
| 18:55.54 | Kaso | yeh but ive never written in php |
| 18:58.21 | zenzio | C? |
| 18:59.03 | Kaso | Nope, the only programing i did before i started on lua was the VB i was taught in college |
| 18:59.21 | grimman | VB... |
| 18:59.24 | grimman | Same crap as me then. |
| 18:59.25 | Kaso | i know :< |
| 18:59.42 | grimman | Well... VBScript actually, ASP. |
| 19:00.04 | Kaso | lua is so pretty compared to vb in my narrow view |
| 19:01.14 | grimman | Yeah. |
| 19:07.37 | Maldivia | Cairenn? |
| 19:09.35 | grimman | Bah... gotta kill some Terrans. |
| 19:18.24 | ckknight | lousy Terrans |
| 19:23.17 | nrubkriK|Psycho | Were you playing as the Draenei? |
| 19:24.06 | nrubkriK|Psycho | I don't even like that joke, why did I say it? :/ |
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| 19:43.10 | wereHamster | JoshBorke, ping |
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| 19:51.35 | nrubkriK|Psycho | What's the largest font size WoW allows? |
| 19:51.52 | nrubkriK|Psycho | grimman, I seem to recall you worked it out? |
| 19:53.03 | Maldivia | nrubkriK|Psycho: don't think there's a limit, as such |
| 19:53.28 | Kirkburn | There definately is, I'm not seeing font size 102 on my screen :) |
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| 19:56.52 | Kirkburn | Hmm, it's about 30 |
| 20:00.02 | Kirkburn | Okay what's the reloadui script? |
| 20:00.23 | Maldivia | ReloadUI() |
| 20:01.15 | Kirkburn | No worky |
| 20:01.53 | Kirkburn | nvm, hadn't done caps |
| 20:02.55 | Maldivia | hmm... weird |
| 20:04.56 | Maldivia | I can't get fonts to be larger than 31... |
| 20:05.50 | Maldivia | any number higher than 31 is the same size as 31 |
| 20:07.53 | Maldivia | this is for a dynamically generate fontstring |
| 20:08.02 | Maldivia | dont know if xml generated, would act differently |
| 20:11.23 | Maldivia | even if I set the FontObject of the FontString to ZoneTextFont (a font defined with size 102), it's still the same size |
| 20:12.49 | Kirkburn | Thanks, I'll set 31 as the largest then |
| 20:13.17 | Kirkburn | I'm gonna see if I can can use alpha in the next beta :) |
| 20:13.26 | Kirkburn | er, you know what I mean |
| 20:13.46 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 20:14.19 | Kirkburn | I also found that you can't change the colour/alpha of the zone change fonts :( |
| 20:16.12 | zenzio | can you hide them/make them invisible? (The zone change text) |
| 20:16.39 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: you can, but the FrameXML code sets it, to show friendly, hostile or contested area |
| 20:19.34 | Kirkburn | Makes sense ... I'm not on a PvP server, so I never notice :P |
| 20:19.51 | Kirkburn | (zenzio, nope, can't change the transparency) |
| 20:20.20 | zenzio | ought to be a setting for whether or not to display it :-| |
| 20:23.01 | Schizo|uuyruohS | "htta" that's one way to spell that |
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| 20:37.17 | Schizo|uuyruohS | By doing "function fuu() a=1 return a end" I can do the following: "function Foo() b=fuu()*2 end" ? |
| 20:37.43 | Maldivia | yes |
| 20:37.53 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Coll thanks :P |
| 20:38.49 | ckknight | anyone French? |
| 20:39.02 | Schizo|uuyruohS | Pick me, pick me, pick meeeeeeeeeee |
| 20:39.12 | ckknight | you're French? |
| 20:39.15 | Maldivia | which of you |
| 20:39.20 | Schizo|uuyruohS | lol |
| 20:39.27 | Shouryuu | There |
| 20:39.28 | ckknight | ah |
| 20:39.35 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 20:39.47 | ckknight | I need to confirm the singular names for each race |
| 20:40.15 | Shouryuu | Yeah sure, hit me with 'em! |
| 20:40.17 | wereHamster | Je suis un Guerrier :) |
| 20:40.37 | Shouryuu | That's class :D |
| 20:40.58 | ckknight | http://wow.pastebin.com/745552 |
| 20:41.40 | ckknight | here's German: http://wow.pastebin.com/745554 |
| 20:41.58 | ckknight | I just want to confirm whether what I have is correct or not |
| 20:41.58 | Shouryuu | ok gimme a bit |
| 20:42.04 | Shouryuu | My internet is being a b... :( |
| 20:42.18 | JoshBorke | wow |
| 20:42.35 | JoshBorke | been gone 2 hours and i'm still not onto the test server |
| 20:42.46 | Shouryuu | Yup looks fine to me ckknight |
| 20:43.02 | ckknight | alright |
| 20:43.16 | ckknight | anyone German want to confirm what I have? |
| 20:43.41 | JoshBorke | ( ckknight ): I <3 dewdroplib |
| 20:43.53 | ckknight | JoshBorke, hehe |
| 20:50.51 | JoshBorke | SOB! i just got dc'd because the server went down :-( |
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| 20:51.07 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 20:52.16 | Maldivia | evenning tem |
| 20:52.20 | JoshBorke | i just won't test my addon |
| 20:52.22 | JoshBorke | morning tem |
| 20:52.23 | Tem | hey |
| 20:53.41 | wereHamster | JoshBorke, I've just release a new version of HealSync... now with cast-time estimation :) |
| 20:53.58 | ckknight | JoshBorke, on a scale of 1 to 10, what's your favorite part of DewdropLib? |
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| 20:55.30 | wereHamster | ckknight, the german version looks fine for me ;) |
| 20:55.37 | ckknight | alright |
| 20:55.48 | Cide | hmm, does an event fire when channels change? |
| 20:56.29 | Shouryuu | Can you actualy resize your minimap? |
| 20:58.33 | Maldivia | yes |
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| 21:05.39 | Shouryuu | night folks |
| 21:05.59 | grimman | Kirkburn: I see you got the answer you needed. =) |
| 21:06.39 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 21:10.38 | grimman | What are you doing anyway? |
| 21:16.48 | Kirkburn | Fiddling with ClearFont |
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| 21:26.16 | Kirkburn | Cairen, you don't think being logged in 3 times is overdoing it? :) |
| 21:29.00 | zenzio | there can never be too much of Cairen |
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| 21:36.05 | grimman | I need to start drinking this beer soon... it's been standing here for hours. |
| 21:36.32 | grimman | At least I can safely say I'm not an alcoholic. ;P |
| 22:18.37 | Maldivia | grr... hate billing day :| |
| 22:22.18 | grimman | Who doesn't? |
| 22:24.14 | Maldivia | well, more because I can't post on the forums... |
| 22:26.30 | JoshBorke | ckknight: hard for me to say since i've never tried menus before |
| 22:26.58 | JoshBorke | werehamster: i saw, i'm keeping tabs on you :-P |
| 22:28.11 | Maldivia | JoshBorke: sorry to say so, but both have quit IRC :) |
| 22:31.07 | grimman | *clap clap* ^^ |
| 22:40.54 | JoshBorke | man |
| 22:40.58 | JoshBorke | i'm wicked slow |
| 22:42.07 | grimman | Only ten minutes this time. =) |
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| 22:44.54 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 22:44.58 | JoshBorke | oh yea! caverns of time! |
| 22:45.15 | Depherios | heh, and you can SEE the insides now, without being dead |
| 22:45.16 | Depherios | woo |
| 22:46.25 | grimman | Hmmyeah, I might go Fraps it now. |
| 22:46.29 | grimman | Either that or play Starcraft. |
| 22:46.34 | Depherios | if you go up the tower in the hourglass room, you can hop onto the top ledge and run around way up there... and if you've got noggenfoggers you can slowfall down |
| 22:46.39 | grimman | But first, more beer. ,P |
| 22:46.43 | Depherios | and land on the hourglass |
| 22:47.05 | JoshBorke | er, has it changed that much? |
| 22:47.10 | Depherios | no |
| 22:47.10 | JoshBorke | i don't remember there being any defined places |
| 22:47.13 | Depherios | you can just see XD |
| 22:47.23 | Depherios | there's the cave, and at the end, the hourglass room |
| 22:47.29 | Depherios | with the three instance portals |
| 22:48.28 | JoshBorke | hm, with all the weird space type walls? |
| 22:50.51 | clad|cooking | http://youtube.com/watch?v=GfAiehvPk8I&search=caverns%20of%20time |
| 22:53.50 | grimman | Weird video. |
| 22:54.01 | grimman | I'm gonna have to Fraps what I get. |
| 22:54.19 | JoshBorke | was gonna say, i didn't see dragons when i went |
| 22:54.28 | grimman | Dragons? |
| 22:56.48 | JoshBorke | yea, this video showed some dragons |
| 22:57.02 | clad|cooking | there's a ton of videos on youtube |
| 22:57.08 | clad|cooking | this particular one has GM commands. |
| 22:57.10 | clad|cooking | .kill, etc. |
| 22:57.42 | grimman | Meh @ me not having proper video editing software installed. ;P |
| 22:58.09 | JoshBorke | i'm just gonna use windows movie maker |
| 22:58.22 | grimman | /ignore JoshBorke |
| 22:58.54 | Depherios | oh |
| 22:59.03 | Depherios | that's what I was saying, the walls aren't space anymore |
| 22:59.07 | Depherios | they're rock |
| 22:59.09 | Depherios | since 1.10 |
| 22:59.13 | JoshBorke | that's disappointing :-( |
| 22:59.19 | Depherios | no, it's cooler trust me XD |
| 22:59.24 | Depherios | before, the only way to see the walls |
| 22:59.27 | Depherios | was to go in as a ghost |
| 23:00.54 | JoshBorke | you could always see the walls in the beginning |
| 23:02.27 | Depherios | oho O_o I think it was 1.8 I went in and there was no walls |
| 23:02.33 | Depherios | not sure though |
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| 23:12.56 | zespri_work | at what level a group of 3 can do sm armory? sm cath? |
| 23:14.29 | Kirkburn | I'm confused, what's all this about the Cavern's of Time? |
| 23:16.22 | JoshBorke | ( Kirkburn ): it's accessible |
| 23:16.34 | Kirkburn | Huh? How?? |
| 23:16.34 | JoshBorke | you can ghost into like i did, or you can use some trick to wall climb |
| 23:16.39 | Kirkburn | Oh |
| 23:16.48 | Kirkburn | I thought it was something *new* :P |
| 23:16.50 | JoshBorke | i just die in front of the door, walk through the door, then rez |
| 23:17.06 | Kaso | when did you do it ? last time i checked they changed all the geometry to make it near impoosible |
| 23:17.07 | Kirkburn | Alternatively ... *open wowmapviewer* |
| 23:17.15 | JoshBorke | won't work so well when i start doing AQ40... |
| 23:17.21 | JoshBorke | really kaso? |
| 23:17.27 | JoshBorke | it's been a long time for me, probably 1.6 or something |
| 23:17.57 | Kirkburn | Heh, I'm looking at Old Hillsbrad |
| 23:18.09 | Kaso | Yeh, the door trick hasnt worked for ages, but you could wall walk in, then they removed that but you could still jump up this crack so apparently a large chunk of the area has changed |
| 23:18.28 | JoshBorke | yea, i think you can still do the wall walk thing |
| 23:18.36 | JoshBorke | because grimman got in last night |
| 23:18.49 | Kaso | oh? ill have to go back and work a new way out |
| 23:18.53 | Kaso | in even :> |
| 23:19.20 | Kirkburn | Tarren Mill looks so peaceful |
| 23:23.03 | Kaso | im just looking back through my screenshots, wall walking was fun |
| 23:23.28 | JoshBorke | i suck at wall walking :-( |
| 23:23.47 | JoshBorke | makes exploring so much harder |
| 23:23.56 | JoshBorke | btw, how do you get into karazhan? |
| 23:24.24 | Kirkburn | Doesn't exist yet |
| 23:24.24 | Kaso | you cant really that i know of |
| 23:24.34 | Kaso | you can get into the crypts beneth it |
| 23:24.34 | JoshBorke | hrm |
| 23:24.41 | JoshBorke | yea, went there last night |
| 23:24.52 | Kirkburn | I can see the Emerald Dream though :P |
| 23:25.04 | grimman | Done with Fraps now. ^^ |
| 23:25.13 | JoshBorke | grimman! answer our questions! |
| 23:25.17 | JoshBorke | did you wall walk in? |
| 23:25.23 | grimman | You don't. |
| 23:25.53 | grimman | There's a geometry glitch that allows you to stand on "wedges" as if it were flat ground. |
| 23:25.59 | grimman | Takes a bit of working though. |
| 23:26.10 | grimman | And of course you have to find suitable places. |
| 23:26.12 | Kaso | CoT you're talking about? |
| 23:26.48 | grimman | General geometry, but I assume JoshBorke asked about CoT. |
| 23:26.54 | grimman | And that's how you get in there. |
| 23:26.59 | JoshBorke | indeed, since you just finished fraps'ing it :-) |
| 23:27.09 | grimman | I didn't record the entering part though. ;P |
| 23:27.24 | JoshBorke | oh of course, there's no fun in that |
| 23:27.30 | Kaso | so you can still get into cot in 1.10 i remeber last time i went there they removed the nice crack just to the right of the door |
| 23:28.32 | grimman | JoshBorke: Sorry, I just thought it was common knowledge by now. |
| 23:28.37 | grimman | I mean, even I found it myself. |
| 23:28.45 | grimman | (the glitch) |
| 23:28.58 | JoshBorke | well, i've always just died my way into places |
| 23:29.43 | Kirkburn | Been to Hyjal? |
| 23:29.48 | JoshBorke | no *cry* |
| 23:29.53 | JoshBorke | i don't know where th entrance is |
| 23:29.54 | Kirkburn | Nice place |
| 23:30.08 | grimman | Kirkburn: Yes. |
| 23:30.13 | JoshBorke | the videos look nice |
| 23:30.34 | grimman | I feel rather dumb for not having tried corpserunning through the instance entrance there. |
| 23:30.35 | Kaso | its too big, takes like half an hour to get from enterance to the last bit :< |
| 23:31.05 | Kirkburn | I do love the little Under Construction sign :P |
| 23:31.12 | grimman | hehe |
| 23:31.32 | grimman | Too bad I didn't have any noggenfogger or deep dive helmet or something. |
| 23:31.39 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 23:31.52 | Kirkburn | Be a warlock then :P |
| 23:32.03 | grimman | Can't reach the bottom of the water without it. |
| 23:32.05 | grimman | Baaah. |
| 23:32.20 | Kaso | not much to see really |
| 23:32.21 | grimman | All my chars except the rogue have some way of avoiding drowning. |
| 23:32.29 | grimman | And the rogue is the one I use to explore. |
| 23:32.35 | JoshBorke | buy a potieon |
| 23:32.45 | grimman | Buy, he says... |
| 23:32.51 | grimman | You have no idea who I am, do you? ;D |
| 23:32.53 | Kirkburn | What's the giant crater though? |
| 23:32.57 | grimman | Cheapness embodied. |
| 23:33.13 | grimman | Kirkburn: Draenei landing site? ;P |
| 23:33.19 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 23:33.58 | JoshBorke | ( grimman ): negatory, i do not :-P |
| 23:34.20 | grimman | hehe |
| 23:34.51 | Kirkburn | Tbh, that water should do bad things to you if you jumped in |
| 23:34.51 | grimman | One of the reasons I have so many chars is to be able to gather everything I might need for whatever on my own. |
| 23:35.01 | grimman | Kirkburn: Isn't that water good water? |
| 23:35.14 | Kirkburn | It was the Well of Eternity |
| 23:35.39 | Kirkburn | it would probably do weird stuff anyway |
| 23:36.28 | grimman | Like increase your mana pool. ;D |
| 23:36.43 | Kirkburn | "Furtive tales say that the Well of Eternity was not completely destroyed and a hidden remnant of it grows in the crater of Mount Hyjal. The lore speakers tell us that Illidan used vials of mystical water from the original Well to seed the crater lake at the top of the mountain sacred to Night Elves. That was the reason Malfurion exiled his brother for millenia, but few tell of what happened to the lake after and whether its waters were cleansed of |
| 23:36.44 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.24 | JoshBorke | ouch, almost died in SM, need to pay attention to the game too |
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