| 00:00.05 | Kirk|MrWiggles | Mr Wiggles is the best pet ever! |
| 00:00.25 | Kirk|MrWiggles | "Mr Wiggles does not appreciate your dress, Mage" |
| 00:01.16 | Kirk|MrWiggles | "Mr Wiggles will ninja-hoof any critter that crosses his path" |
| 00:04.00 | Kirk|MrWiggles | "Mr Wiggles demands conversation!" |
| 00:04.56 | Kirk|MrWiggles | "Mr Wiggles is unsure how to procede" |
| 00:05.20 | snurre | nerf wiggles |
| 00:07.30 | Cairenn | Kirk|MrWiggles: what on earth are you talking about? |
| 00:07.57 | cladhaire | wow i dont know if i can deal with that =) |
| 00:08.04 | Kirk|MrWiggles | "Mr Wiggles is sad that Cairenn doesn't understand him" |
| 00:08.55 | Kirk|MrWiggles | Wiggle-tastic :P |
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| 00:19.07 | Kirk|MrWiggles | If anyone wants to know what happening in the Sony Playstation presentation that's happening atm ... http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/08/engadget-and-joystiqs-live-coverage-of-sonys-playstation-3-e3-ev |
| 00:27.08 | Kirk|MrWiggles | Night night everyone! |
| 00:27.23 | Kirk|MrWiggles | I promise I'll make more sense tomorrow :) |
| 00:27.26 | Cairenn | night Kirk|MrWiggles |
| 00:27.39 | Cairenn | heh, why? not making sense tends to be fun, and fun is good |
| 00:27.52 | Kirk|MrWiggles | I like fun. |
| 00:28.21 | Kirk|MrWiggles | This is Mr Wiggles, over and out! |
| 00:29.36 | Cairenn | brb, computer acting up |
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| 00:58.06 | zespri_work | anyone knows, what is the fifth argument in AddMessage? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ScrollingMessageFrame_AddMessage |
| 01:00.04 | cladhaire | its exactly what it says it is =) |
| 01:00.13 | cladhaire | a scrolling message frame is just a series of fontstrings |
| 01:00.23 | cladhaire | that sets the id of that fontstring so you can change it's color later |
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| 01:01.16 | MentalPower | how do you change the color later tho? |
| 01:01.18 | cladhaire | how? that i dont know =) but thats what it does |
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| 01:01.44 | cladhaire | Not sure to be honest, other than iterate the children and find the one with your id |
| 01:01.56 | zespri_work | right |
| 01:02.04 | zespri_work | this makes certian sense |
| 01:10.29 | Iriel | There's a method to change a specific color ScrollingMessageFrame:UpdateColorByID(id,r,g,b) |
| 01:11.01 | cladhaire | Iriel: I knew there was something normal about it =) |
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| 01:31.28 | zespri_work | thank you Iriel |
| 01:31.51 | Kaelten | ello |
| 01:32.06 | Cairenn | hi Kaelten |
| 01:32.16 | Kaelten | hey cair |
| 01:34.32 | MentalPower | hey Kaelten |
| 01:34.40 | Kaelten | hey mental |
| 01:36.36 | sancus | http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/world-of-warcraft-expansion/705785p1.html |
| 01:36.37 | sancus | gg |
| 01:36.41 | sancus | Draenei it is |
| 01:37.16 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 01:37.33 | sancus | im glad I dont play alliance |
| 01:38.28 | Corrodias | i'm glad i don't play |
| 01:39.33 | cladhaire | Meh |
| 01:39.35 | cladhaire | it'll be fine. |
| 01:40.04 | Tain | OMGWTF!!!!1!! No one can ever play again! |
| 01:40.22 | sancus | they look like shit is all :P |
| 01:40.25 | sancus | blood elves look much nicer |
| 01:40.42 | wereHamster | are they serious? |
| 01:40.44 | Tain | Damn. |
| 01:40.46 | Cairenn | yes |
| 01:40.52 | sancus | I guess that's the idea though, all the alliance races are pretty so they get a shitty one now |
| 01:40.54 | cladhaire | They look fine. |
| 01:40.54 | sancus | and horde gets a pretty one |
| 01:40.56 | cladhaire | its not shitty |
| 01:40.57 | cladhaire | jesus. |
| 01:40.59 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:41.06 | cladhaire | not everything has to be cute and pretty |
| 01:41.09 | cladhaire | I think it'll be cool |
| 01:41.16 | sancus | not everything has to be cute, no |
| 01:41.17 | Tain | Not going to win the supermodel award. |
| 01:41.25 | sancus | everything should be pretty, however! |
| 01:41.26 | Tain | The world is over! |
| 01:41.28 | Tain | The sky is falling! |
| 01:41.29 | Tain | AAAAH! |
| 01:41.44 | Cairenn | the horde now gets a "pretty" race and the alliance a "not so pretty" |
| 01:41.51 | sancus | yes |
| 01:41.57 | Cairenn | *shrug* |
| 01:42.07 | Corrodias | i LIKED the horde ugly. |
| 01:42.16 | Cairenn | also, the playable versions aren't the same as the ones you see in SoS |
| 01:42.20 | sancus | The horde could've been done ugly in a more artistic way in some cases. |
| 01:42.22 | Cairenn | it's a new model |
| 01:42.47 | sancus | Like undead really dont need to have all their gear ripped so they can sprout bones, and trolls don't need to slouch :P |
| 01:42.51 | Cairenn | <== can talk about it now |
| 01:43.14 | sancus | I am more interested in Tier 3 stats tbh! |
| 01:43.42 | wereHamster | ;) who's not |
| 01:43.53 | MentalPower | BTW, you know this means zeeg (as a lot of other people) got it right |
| 01:43.58 | Tain | Oh please. |
| 01:44.10 | sancus | yea so |
| 01:44.11 | Tain | Throw enough shit against the wall and something's bound to stick. |
| 01:44.15 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 01:44.16 | cladhaire | so true. |
| 01:45.16 | Tain | I'm still holding out for were-zheva. |
| 01:45.36 | cladhaire | they'll be purchasable mercenaries. |
| 01:45.42 | cladhaire | i have leet beta infoz. |
| 01:47.00 | Tain | I say that all the time. "Was that a hooker?" "Nope, purchasable mercenary." |
| 01:47.24 | cladhaire | SEE.. Tain gets it. |
| 01:50.18 | Tain | I sure do! Too bad I have to pay for it. |
| 01:59.01 | AnduinLothar | morning |
| 01:59.07 | Cairenn | hi AnduinLothar |
| 01:59.23 | AnduinLothar | everyone's complaining about Draenei, eh? |
| 01:59.30 | MentalPower | morning AnduinLothar |
| 02:00.07 | sancus | I like that they're big and fat like tauren |
| 02:00.10 | sancus | makes them easy targets |
| 02:00.10 | AnduinLothar | hope they can attack while cloaked.. been wanting to be Dark Templar, but ghost wont show us that for a while |
| 02:00.40 | AnduinLothar | but they'll prolly just be rogues with some nifty racials |
| 02:01.39 | AnduinLothar | btw penny arcade is funny today |
| 02:01.55 | AnduinLothar | a tribute to us all |
| 02:02.07 | kremonte | how do you get unit guild? |
| 02:02.16 | kremonte | :X |
| 02:02.20 | AnduinLothar | UnitGuild? |
| 02:02.30 | kremonte | my game is saying it's nil |
| 02:02.37 | AnduinLothar | use the wiki |
| 02:03.22 | kremonte | cant find anyhting on the wiki |
| 02:03.25 | kremonte | that's why i'm asking <_< |
| 02:03.33 | AnduinLothar | look harder |
| 02:03.49 | kremonte | ... |
| 02:03.55 | kremonte | can't find anything |
| 02:04.20 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGuildInfo |
| 02:04.37 | kremonte | mmk, why isn't there a unit function? kinda asinine |
| 02:05.06 | MentalPower | that IS a unit function |
| 02:05.17 | MentalPower | it takes a unit as an argument |
| 02:06.30 | AnduinLothar | now, back to our irregularly scheduled Stargate |
| 02:06.38 | Cairenn | mmmm, SG |
| 02:06.58 | MentalPower | mmmmm, indeed |
| 02:07.05 | zespri_work | Draenei? They have been announced as new alliance race? |
| 02:07.06 | AnduinLothar | got season 8, had to wait a whole day to see what happens after the ridiculous season 7 finale.. |
| 02:10.46 | AnduinLothar | omg.. it's in rmvb... not i have to kill someone |
| 02:10.48 | SilverShadow[CU | Draenei have all but been officially announced: |
| 02:11.10 | Cairenn | welcome to 1/2 hr ago |
| 02:11.23 | cladhaire | kik |
| 02:11.27 | SilverShadow[CU | http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/world-of-warcraft-expansion/705785p1.html |
| 02:11.27 | cladhaire | s/kik/lol/ |
| 02:11.45 | SilverShadow[CU | yea.. just retelling Zespri.. |
| 02:12.00 | SilverShadow[CU | since he asked. |
| 02:12.20 | zespri_work | thank you, I haven;'t seen this before |
| 02:12.20 | Cairenn | ah, sorry, missed it |
| 02:12.27 | SilverShadow[CU | NP. |
| 02:13.06 | cladhaire | SilverShadow[CU: You need more characters for your nick.. its driving me up the wall =) |
| 02:13.35 | AnduinLothar | it's longer than my allotted side bar for names... |
| 02:13.40 | AnduinLothar | and mine is pretty long |
| 02:14.59 | cladhaire | its true |
| 02:16.10 | SilverShadow[CU | I wish i knew how to get more.. |
| 02:17.03 | SilverShadow[CU | i've tried SS[CU] but that's kinda confusing..and "[CU]SilverShado" just lookes even more weird. |
| 02:17.12 | cladhaire | how about just SilverShadow? |
| 02:17.16 | cladhaire | *gasp* =) |
| 02:17.42 | SilverShadow[CU | well.. trying to be a more public "Yo, curse staff member" type thing. |
| 02:17.54 | AnduinLothar | Silver? |
| 02:18.17 | SilverShadow[CU | Yea? |
| 02:18.28 | AnduinLothar | how bout Silver{CU] |
| 02:18.33 | AnduinLothar | [ of course |
| 02:19.04 | SilverShadow[CU | Could work.. |
| 02:19.25 | Cairenn | given that's what most people shorten your name to, or at least, those of us who call you friend |
| 02:19.38 | [CU]SilverS | How's that? |
| 02:19.45 | AnduinLothar | mmk |
| 02:20.25 | Iriel | I'm not so sure the [CU is necessary personally, but that's just me |
| 02:20.33 | sancus | heh a lot of people are saying gamespy's description sounds more like the Eredar |
| 02:21.17 | Cairenn | [CU]SilverS: honestly, in this channel, the CU really isn't necessary ... these are the mod *authors* ... they know who you are without needing it ;) |
| 02:21.39 | [CU]SilverS | fine. |
| 02:22.12 | Iriel | 8-) Your name looks much better without the adornment, if it makes you feel any better |
| 02:22.14 | SilverShadow | last thing i want to do is step on toes. I find most seem to not know i'm around to help.. but that's just me. |
| 02:22.15 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:22.35 | SilverShadow | Thanks Elviso ^^ |
| 02:22.46 | cladhaire | You underestimate the recognition the authors tend to have for the community =) |
| 02:23.00 | Elviso | don't feel bad, they prodded me into removing my guild tag when I joined here, which was only "L|" |
| 02:23.17 | Cairenn | SilverShadow: no toes were being stepped on, no worries, just saying, we know who you are :) |
| 02:23.56 | cladhaire | we're an odd community to say the least =) |
| 02:24.55 | SilverShadow | To say my personality is at odds with my position is an understatement. >.> Ask Cairenn.. I'm more the background type. ^_^ |
| 02:25.37 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 02:25.46 | Elviso | on a side note, [CU] wasn't the best ID tag anyways, no offense.... I identify Cursed by "CG" or "C-G"....the only thing that comes to mind from "CU" is Colorado University |
| 02:25.50 | Cairenn | yeah ... right ... I got that most definitely during dinner at Blizzcon .... NOT |
| 02:26.08 | cladhaire | I'm so sad I didn't make it to Blizzcon =/ |
| 02:26.14 | zespri_work | so windfury gets nurfed. about time! |
| 02:26.42 | cladhaire | except they're getting +10 weapon damage across the board.. so it'll balance out. |
| 02:26.58 | SilverShadow | Speaking of Blizzcon, anyone heard any word about it? They were selling tickets by this time last year.. |
| 02:27.34 | cladhaire | Last I heard Tseric said it was never planned to be a recurring event. |
| 02:27.52 | cladhaire | but they .. have to have another one.. to push the hype even further.. Videndi is a hype monster. |
| 02:28.24 | SilverShadow | Hrm.. from what some of the people said at the con, they were sorta 'testing the waters'.. thought it did well though.. *shrugs* |
| 02:31.29 | Cairenn | seeing if I can get any dirt on it ... |
| 02:31.29 | Elviso | it might've taken too much background work, made it where they couldn't focus on anything else....they already have E3 they have pony-up for anually |
| 02:32.13 | SilverShadow | not really.. all the background word was hired out by a seperate company. |
| 02:32.43 | SilverShadow | that's how these companies do these conventions. they hire a professional service that does all that stuff for them. There is very little prepwork they have to do |
| 02:33.10 | SilverShadow | Though.. i think the fact that Starcraft Ghost got shelved has bit them hard. it was one of the major things they were promoting at the con. |
| 02:42.43 | AnduinLothar | it was |
| 02:42.51 | zespri_work | is there a class that can cast detec invisibility on others? |
| 02:42.55 | clad|sleep | mages |
| 02:43.04 | zespri_work | cheers |
| 02:43.07 | clad|sleep | err.. maybe warlocks |
| 02:43.18 | clad|sleep | i might be an idiot.. |
| 02:43.31 | clad|sleep | http://thottbot.com/?sp=11788 |
| 02:43.35 | clad|sleep | and with that, i go to sleep |
| 02:43.51 | MentalPower | mages = detect magic (buffs on enemies); warlocks = detect invisibility (allows you to see invisible units/items) |
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| 03:02.33 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Mod Dev Discussions. |
| 03:19.32 | AnduinLothar | oi, o'neil made an uber gun to pwn replicators, it's goodness :) |
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| 03:24.43 | sancus | http://www.lurkerlounge.com/mongo/priest3.jpg |
| 03:24.46 | sancus | side profile priest tier3 |
| 03:25.49 | AnduinLothar | ya, the naxx sets are pretty interesting |
| 03:38.01 | AnduinLothar | that was a really cool first episode in season 8.. |
| 03:40.36 | Tem | season 8 of what? |
| 03:41.21 | Cairenn | SG |
| 03:45.48 | Tem | I'm lost |
| 03:45.50 | Tem | SG? |
| 03:46.08 | Cairenn | StarGate |
| 03:49.44 | AnduinLothar | I'm going through the seasons. |
| 03:56.45 | Tem | aaaah |
| 03:56.50 | Tem | I forgot that show still exists |
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| 04:12.34 | Iriel | So the answer to the age old question "How much UI memory does a freshly created frame use" |
| 04:12.39 | Iriel | .. is 112 bytes |
| 04:15.07 | Tem | and what happens when you set things on it? |
| 04:15.12 | Tem | (like a name) |
| 04:15.15 | Iriel | I haven't tested that yet |
| 04:15.16 | Tem | (give it a parent( |
| 04:15.28 | Iriel | Apparently creating 50,000 children of UIParent makes wow unhappy |
| 04:15.32 | Iriel | name has no effetc |
| 04:15.36 | Iriel | no effect, sorry |
| 04:15.52 | Tem | hmm |
| 04:16.03 | Tem | when I added a name, it seemed to *double* the size |
| 04:16.11 | Tem | but then my tests were probably bunk |
| 04:16.25 | Iriel | You have to be careful because as you add a lot of frames you cause the frame cache to grow |
| 04:16.37 | Iriel | and since it grows by doubling, you can skew your results quite nastily |
| 04:16.40 | Tem | I was adding around 150k frames at a time |
| 04:17.03 | Iriel | I add 10k at a time, and do several runs, and look at mean and median results |
| 04:17.09 | Tem | when I added a name, the size seemed to double |
| 04:17.25 | Tem | when I added a parent, I ran out of UI memory before it finished |
| 04:18.55 | Iriel | parent, no change |
| 04:21.02 | Tem | then, my tests were indeed, bunk |
| 04:21.08 | Iriel | hm, i'm not sure I trust those observations actually |
| 04:21.14 | Iriel | Mine, that is |
| 04:21.38 | Tem | afeared of not creating enough frames to see the change? |
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| 04:22.26 | Iriel | I just discovered quirkiness in my test harness |
| 04:23.39 | Iriel | No, more that i'm just getting wierd results |
| 04:24.18 | Tem | inconsistencies ftl |
| 04:26.26 | Iriel | Oh, never mind, it's still coming out at 112 |
| 04:26.57 | Iriel | SetScript - no effect |
| 04:29.58 | Tem | hmm |
| 04:30.02 | Tem | I wonder what I was seeing |
| 04:30.20 | Iriel | Probably the global frames growing |
| 04:30.26 | Iriel | naming them, for example, bloats the string table |
| 04:30.31 | Tem | right |
| 04:30.32 | Iriel | and you do pay for all the strings |
| 04:30.41 | Iriel | (I'm NOT including the string size in my tests) |
| 04:31.01 | Iriel | So obviously if you name them with unique strings you will use more memory than if you dont name them at all |
| 04:32.11 | Iriel | Regions are 112 bytes also |
| 04:37.48 | Iriel | Hm, this isn't entirely making sense then |
| 04:38.16 | Iriel | if SetScript isn't increasing consumption then how does the runtime stop the script function from being collected |
| 04:48.20 | Iriel | Aha, I know why we're getting different results, I think |
| 04:53.15 | Cairenn | night all |
| 04:53.24 | MentalPower | night Cairenn |
| 05:00.06 | Azrael | wow.. anyone from the curse crew here ? |
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| 05:00.27 | Iriel | Azrael : netcurse is one of the curse crew |
| 05:00.44 | Cairenn|sleep | as is SilverShadowAFK |
| 05:01.00 | Azrael | well, if they're listenin, GfG guys, curse > * :) |
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| 05:01.51 | netcurse | hi |
| 05:01.56 | netcurse | this is insane |
| 05:02.29 | netcurse | and thank you :p |
| 05:02.33 | SilverShadow | howdy! |
| 05:02.37 | SilverShadow | is it working now? |
| 05:02.43 | netcurse | the dns are updating |
| 05:04.59 | SilverShadow | woot |
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| 05:13.52 | Azrael | what would cause a mod to randomly stop working, like when you try to do one of the slash commands, it doesnt work.. you cant "press enter", you know ? |
| 05:14.14 | Iriel | Did you install an 'error frame' alternative? |
| 05:14.29 | Azrael | i dont think one is loaded atm.. |
| 05:15.28 | Iriel | Well, that's the usual symptom of an error when running a slash command |
| 05:15.38 | Azrael | ya, according to khoas config, improved error frame isnt loaded. |
| 05:15.45 | Iriel | but if you have an addon that hides the error frame, you just get the 'enter not pressed' effect |
| 05:17.17 | Azrael | unknown lanague.. wtf.. |
| 05:17.20 | Azrael | stupid addon |
| 05:18.13 | Azrael | btw, wiping to c'thun == teh los |
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| 05:30.49 | Tain | I probably should have tried to figure out how Itemrack works at a time where my brain was functioning. |
| 05:31.35 | Wobin_ | use it or lose it, Tain =) |
| 05:32.23 | Tain | I used Stancesets in the past, I didn't have to think to set that up! |
| 05:32.43 | krka | omg |
| 05:32.49 | krka | go check todays WTF |
| 05:33.03 | Tain | heheh IsVeryNill? |
| 05:33.45 | krka | yeah |
| 05:33.56 | Tain | So awesome. |
| 05:38.49 | netcurse | we fixed most of the issue now |
| 05:38.50 | netcurse | http://www.curse-gaming.com/ |
| 05:48.19 | Iriel | netcurse : Nice job, though there's some graphical issues in mozilla on the addon page |
| 05:50.31 | netcurse | morilla or firefox ? |
| 05:50.39 | netcurse | mozilla |
| 05:50.45 | Iriel | mozilla, on linux (debian to be precise) |
| 05:50.54 | netcurse | ok |
| 05:51.16 | Iriel | A shift-reload seems to have fixed it |
| 05:51.23 | Iriel | so perhaps it was a missing image |
| 05:52.08 | Iriel | I like the new look. |
| 05:52.48 | netcurse | making a new design is hell of a job :p |
| 05:53.07 | Iriel | I work in eCommerce, I know all about the pain 8-) |
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| 05:58.40 | s|loup | hi |
| 05:58.41 | Wobin_ | mmmm... cross browser design =P |
| 05:59.31 | Iriel | It's rather strange when it loads |
| 05:59.31 | haste | css is your friend |
| 05:59.44 | Iriel | it loads wrong then (usually) snaps back into place |
| 06:00.23 | zenzelezz | isn't that usually because Mozilla/Firefox tries to "guess" until it's done loading? |
| 06:01.48 | Azrael | i've got a wierd looking page... in ie |
| 06:01.57 | Azrael | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3583-1-eqdkpraidbanker.html |
| 06:04.48 | Elviso | it only has to "guess" when explicit dimensions aren't specified in the source |
| 06:04.59 | Elviso | ui.worldofwar.net is the worst of all |
| 06:05.03 | netcurse | gonna fix this |
| 06:16.34 | MentalPower | sancus_: you around? |
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| 06:20.13 | sancus_ | yes why |
| 06:21.23 | netcurse | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/topdownmonth.html |
| 06:21.26 | netcurse | that s funny |
| 06:23.08 | MentalPower | sancus_: the image you posted earlier has been changed and i forgot to make a copy, do you happen to have it in your temp files? |
| 06:23.21 | sancus_ | no :( |
| 06:23.26 | MentalPower | crap |
| 06:23.28 | sancus_ | thats what im trying to do now, find someone with it in their cache |
| 06:23.30 | sancus_ | lol |
| 06:23.42 | sancus_ | I clicked it again and now its not in my cache anymore I lose |
| 06:23.51 | MentalPower | BTW there was also a priest3.jpg |
| 06:24.06 | sancus_ | yes I know |
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| 06:27.20 | MentalPower | gnight folks |
| 06:27.31 | MentalPower | sancus if you ever find it, please tell me |
| 06:28.25 | sancus_ | yeah |
| 06:33.02 | Wobin_ | MentalPower: The new armour? |
| 06:33.17 | sancus_ | there was a priest3.jpg and a smaller view |
| 06:33.21 | sancus_ | I have the first one saved |
| 06:33.23 | sancus_ | but not the second |
| 06:34.00 | Wobin_ | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/Lion_Rawrs85/warriortier3.jpg |
| 06:34.08 | Wobin_ | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/Lion_Rawrs85/priesttier3.jpg |
| 06:34.33 | zenzelezz | tier 3? |
| 06:34.45 | sancus_ | yeah, that's the front view, Wobin |
| 06:34.48 | sancus_ | there was a side view pic |
| 06:34.53 | sancus_ | that got taken down and I dont have a copy of it |
| 06:44.06 | AnduinLothar | hope they revampped the pally suit since last I saw it |
| 06:45.48 | zenzelezz | what's tier 3; AQ or Naxxramas? |
| 06:45.52 | Wobin_ | Nax |
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| 06:57.31 | Elviso | zenzelezz, encounter-wise, AQ is tier-3ish. supposedly C'Thun is tier 3.5...but gear-wise, Naxx will have the tier 3 sets. |
| 06:58.05 | sancus_ | huh? |
| 06:58.22 | sancus_ | AQ gear is well below Tier 3 |
| 06:58.42 | zenzelezz | AQ more like 2.5 then? |
| 06:58.50 | sancus_ | yeah basically |
| 06:58.59 | sancus_ | more like 2.25, really, if the stats I've seen are consistent |
| 06:59.05 | zenzelezz | ok |
| 07:02.20 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 07:02.31 | Wobin_ | I'm wearing my Tier (pi) armor! |
| 07:05.00 | sancus_ | http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/images/set/priest_pic.jpg |
| 07:05.02 | zenzelezz | I have the Bracers of Heroism... no other Heroism/Valor pieces :-o |
| 07:05.07 | sancus_ | http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/images/set/warrior_pic.jpg |
| 07:05.12 | sancus_ | http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/images/set/druid_pic.jpg |
| 07:06.23 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 07:06.24 | Wobin_ | I dunno |
| 07:06.28 | Wobin_ | They look statuey |
| 07:08.16 | AnduinLothar | I wonder how many times they did the cg for the opening wormhole in SG |
| 07:08.30 | Wobin_ | I <3 Alamo's guide to Durids |
| 07:08.38 | Wobin_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-druid&T=792259&P=1 |
| 07:09.09 | sancus_ | http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/flash.htm |
| 07:09.49 | ckknight | lol, Wobin_ |
| 07:10.19 | Wobin_ | when cat durid is FITE do not ask for HEEL and NINIRVATE! |
| 07:11.09 | Wobin_ | wow. I can't believe how slow this flash is loading =P |
| 07:11.17 | Elviso | AQ gear has the same statistical difference over T2, as T2 has over T1...MINUS the resistances..,.so expect T3 sets to be similiar stats to AQ gear, except with resistances |
| 07:11.18 | Wobin_ | I can't be -that- far from the server =P |
| 07:11.34 | Elviso | that is, unless they do away w/resistances on set gear, then the stats will be significantly better |
| 07:12.34 | sancus_ | no elviso |
| 07:12.35 | Elviso | and who wants to bet that the hunter T3 set will be utterly ricidulous? i am |
| 07:12.41 | sancus | There is 1) no resists on Tier 3 |
| 07:12.50 | sancus | 2) it is several times the difference between Tier 1 and 2 |
| 07:13.04 | sancus | and there are four set bonuses 2,4,6,8 pieces on each one |
| 07:13.07 | sancus | and they are insane |
| 07:13.08 | Elviso | what is "several times the difference between Tier 1 and 2", T3? |
| 07:13.16 | sancus | yes |
| 07:13.25 | sancus | hunter 8 piece is "sacrifice your pet to get more attack power" and 4 piece is -1s on multishot |
| 07:13.28 | Elviso | did you not see my comment, "that is, unless they do away w/resistances on set gear, then the stats will be significantly better" |
| 07:13.32 | sancus | no |
| 07:13.38 | sancus | They're not better because the resists aren't there :p |
| 07:13.43 | sancus | They're better because they're an insanely big itemlevel jump. |
| 07:13.51 | Elviso | same difference..... |
| 07:13.55 | sancus | nope, not at all |
| 07:14.11 | Elviso | why not? ilevel determines item budget limits |
| 07:15.50 | Elviso | there's a 10 lvl ilvl diff from T1 -> T2, and a 12 ilvl diff between T2->AQ (comparing chestpieces) |
| 07:17.10 | Elviso | by your own words then, T3 would be ilvl 100+.....and yeah, that'd be huge |
| 07:19.17 | Wobin_ | Sacrifice your pet for more AP? |
| 07:19.25 | Wobin_ | When did they turn into warlocks? =P |
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| 07:21.46 | Elviso | anyone know chinese? |
| 07:21.57 | Wobin_ | What do you need to know? |
| 07:24.11 | krka|work | man, i am falling in love with torrentflux |
| 07:24.18 | krka|work | tf is the shit! |
| 07:24.38 | haste | isn't that the PHP client? |
| 07:25.19 | Elviso | http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/ |
| 07:25.20 | krka|work | yeah |
| 07:25.31 | Elviso | Wobin_, translate that whole site plz kthx |
| 07:25.33 | Elviso | :) |
| 07:25.39 | Wobin_ | Buggeroff =) |
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| 09:04.05 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/hotornot.html |
| 09:04.06 | Industrial | 'view all' |
| 09:04.07 | Industrial | :p |
| 09:06.08 | wereHamster | I have a button and when I go over it with the mouse it is highlighted.. is there any way to keep the button highlighted even if the mouse leaves the button? |
| 09:07.17 | wereHamster | Button:LockHighlight() ? |
| 09:07.24 | Industrial | why would you want to that? (aka I dunno but i want to look smart anyway) |
| 09:07.35 | Industrial | woah, typo too :D |
| 09:09.29 | wereHamster | in http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4946 .. I want to keep the row highlighted as long as the user is editing the script |
| 09:10.09 | Industrial | ahha! |
| 09:10.12 | Industrial | you ARE shag |
| 09:10.15 | Industrial | i knew it! |
| 09:10.39 | wereHamster | yep.. shag.. |
| 09:10.53 | wereHamster | doesn't purl know? |
| 09:18.30 | Industrial | purl: ORLY? |
| 09:18.33 | purl | YARLY |
| 09:19.08 | wereHamster | can I fake a button-press? |
| 09:20.11 | wereHamster | Button:Click() .. do I have to answer all of my questions by myself ? :-P |
| 09:20.21 | Maldivia | Button:GetScript("OnClick")() ? |
| 09:20.33 | Maldivia | but you can't fake it, as in hardware event |
| 09:25.13 | Maldivia | hmm, what's the example Iriel always uses, to show that semicolons aren't optional in all cases? |
| 09:25.30 | wereHamster | this:SetText() in <OnTextChanged> is evil ... |
| 09:26.14 | Maldivia | another one of the nice endless loops |
| 09:27.01 | wereHamster | no.. WoW apparently didn't crash because of this.. |
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| 09:53.33 | krka|work | a() ; (b)(c) |
| 09:53.39 | krka|work | i think |
| 09:53.41 | AnduinLothar | damnit... sleep is being elusive again.. |
| 09:55.41 | AnduinLothar | too much stargate adreniline |
| 09:55.53 | AnduinLothar | have to detox |
| 10:01.53 | Wobin_ | Watch SG:A for detox |
| 10:02.02 | Wobin_ | You'd better watch out |
| 10:02.11 | Wobin_ | SG is a gateway drug |
| 10:02.20 | Wobin_ | (*bdum tisch*) |
| 10:03.48 | AnduinLothar | funny, but acurate |
| 10:14.00 | AnduinLothar | curse go back down again? |
| 10:14.28 | AnduinLothar | "We are encountering a slightly problem with the database, it should be fixed within the hour." |
| 10:14.38 | AnduinLothar | i cant read when I'm tired |
| 10:21.42 | wereHamster | works again for me |
| 10:22.19 | AnduinLothar | not here.. |
| 10:22.25 | Wobin_ | woot |
| 10:22.30 | Wobin_ | the missing text is all back |
| 10:23.02 | wereHamster | reload |
| 10:24.08 | AnduinLothar | still same page |
| 10:25.05 | wereHamster | try harder ;) |
| 10:26.26 | AnduinLothar | emptied cache... same thing.. |
| 10:27.58 | Miravlix | Hmm, loads fine for me in Firefox |
| 10:28.38 | Miravlix | There is a few errors here and there though |
| 10:29.42 | AnduinLothar | mmm firefox does work.. |
| 10:29.45 | Wobin_ | msg netcurse about it |
| 10:30.28 | AnduinLothar | login still borked |
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| 10:48.29 | Miravlix | - Now includes 100% more awesome. |
| 10:48.44 | Miravlix | It includes 100% more awsome dots? |
| 10:48.47 | Wobin_ | It's good that we can quantify awesome |
| 10:48.47 | KarlKFI | heh, ya zes had fun |
| 10:51.12 | wereHamster | Wal-Mart Trying to Trademark the Smiley Face WTF? |
| 10:51.31 | KarlKFI | you didn't read the whol article |
| 10:52.02 | wereHamster | does the article say something different than the title? |
| 10:52.23 | KarlKFI | did you even read the blurb? |
| 10:52.37 | KarlKFI | come on man, it's not like slashdot articles are even a page long.. |
| 10:53.50 | KarlKFI | ok... time to be ambitious and calize Wardrobe |
| 10:53.56 | KarlKFI | Loc* |
| 10:55.15 | KarlKFI | maybe make it use unlimitted outfits.. |
| 10:55.17 | wereHamster | need german translation? |
| 10:55.25 | KarlKFI | it has german i believe |
| 10:55.29 | KarlKFI | needs french |
| 10:57.38 | Elkano | oh, again speculations if the allianze race will be the Draenei... and only a few hours until we'll be sure :) |
| 11:01.02 | KarlKFI | bleh, gonna clean up all these globals too.. |
| 11:02.16 | Industrial | few hours? |
| 11:02.19 | Industrial | how so |
| 11:02.31 | KarlKFI | sorry chief. it's 4am |
| 11:02.52 | KarlKFI | show doesn't start till 9 or 10 i would imagine |
| 11:03.22 | Industrial | thats ok, 1 PM here |
| 11:03.26 | Industrial | but what show? |
| 11:03.30 | KarlKFI | e3 |
| 11:03.45 | Industrial | ah |
| 11:03.56 | Industrial | live internet TV? :P |
| 11:04.55 | Corrodias | Roxy Music - More Than This |
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| 11:11.23 | Wobin_ | What are some common visual concepts used to indicate a beat? |
| 11:11.40 | Wobin_ | like, say, a metronome, or a radar ping |
| 11:14.29 | Corrodias | a series of lights |
| 11:14.49 | Corrodias | a flashing/strobing light |
| 11:23.08 | KarlKFI | bleh this code sucks |
| 11:29.59 | Wobin_ | Soon the alliance will have it's own Stupidly Large, Hey Get That Draenai Butt Out Of My Face race, if the rumours are true =P |
| 11:30.23 | KarlKFI | you sir, are way to hyped |
| 11:31.33 | Industrial | i dont even know the dranei :( |
| 11:34.46 | KarlKFI | oi... updating all zillion of the Wardrobe xml texts when changing is a pain |
| 11:36.07 | KarlKFI | why in the world did he make his own color picker anyway.. |
| 11:37.09 | netcurse | morning |
| 11:37.16 | Industrial | morning |
| 11:37.21 | netcurse | need to play the game click and tell answer:> |
| 11:37.22 | KarlKFI | that was a short nap net |
| 11:37.24 | netcurse | http://www.curse-gaming.com/server.php |
| 11:37.51 | netcurse | ya i slept 2 hours |
| 11:38.00 | Wobin_ | oh btw |
| 11:38.09 | netcurse | what this page says for you ? |
| 11:38.17 | Wobin_ | if anyone wants to know the names of the new craftable stuff... |
| 11:38.23 | Wobin_ | Bingchuan = Glacier |
| 11:38.26 | KarlKFI | www5.curse-gaming.com |
| 11:38.44 | Wobin_ | Beiji = Archivist? (something similar) |
| 11:38.47 | netcurse | KarlKFI how the site running for you do miss any stuff? |
| 11:38.50 | Wobin_ | Hanlin = Winter Forest |
| 11:38.58 | Wobin_ | Pobing = Icebreaker |
| 11:39.35 | Miravlix | Hmm, my dependency on WowWiki is getting to be a problem, I can't work when it's down. |
| 11:39.56 | KarlKFI | my addon list is still unordered |
| 11:39.59 | Wobin_ | That's why I mirrored it =P |
| 11:40.14 | KarlKFI | and you can't easily list addons by author |
| 11:40.25 | netcurse | this will be back ya |
| 11:40.30 | netcurse | but you can see everything ? |
| 11:40.55 | netcurse | my addon my favorite ? |
| 11:41.05 | KarlKFI | was missing the 'Latest addons' titles but they're back now |
| 11:41.44 | KarlKFI | and searching 'gymnast' doesn't come up with Gymnast Tooltips |
| 11:43.52 | netcurse | try using the google search |
| 11:43.56 | netcurse | it works |
| 11:43.57 | netcurse | also |
| 11:45.45 | netcurse | Karl |
| 11:45.46 | netcurse | http://www.curse-gaming.com/ |
| 11:45.49 | netcurse | check again please |
| 11:45.53 | netcurse | you should see everything |
| 11:46.31 | KarlKFI | looks fine to me |
| 11:49.19 | krka|work | hmm.. i should make a local mirror of wowwiki |
| 11:49.23 | krka|work | but i suck at wget |
| 11:49.54 | Wobin_ | krka: WinHTTrack |
| 11:50.02 | krka|work | .. Win ..? |
| 11:50.08 | Wobin_ | *shrug* |
| 11:50.13 | Wobin_ | otherwise Lrn2wget =) |
| 11:56.59 | wereHamster | krka|work, wget m wowwiki.com |
| 11:57.12 | wereHamster | # wget -m wowwiki.com |
| 11:57.38 | wereHamster | 'm' as in mirror |
| 12:00.32 | krka|work | lrn is for n00bs |
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| 12:05.37 | Wobin_ | krka: Yes. That's my point =) |
| 12:05.51 | krka|work | :P |
| 12:10.51 | netcurse | wobin |
| 12:10.56 | netcurse | can you please check curse ? |
| 12:11.06 | netcurse | and tell me if you still have the same errors |
| 12:11.08 | netcurse | as 3 hours ago |
| 12:21.56 | krka|work | bah... why do i decide to mirror the wiki after it has gone down |
| 12:22.04 | KarlKFI | heh |
| 12:25.53 | Maldivia | grr,,, |
| 12:26.09 | Maldivia | anyone stilled logged in on the forums ? |
| 12:27.34 | Miravlix | US, EU, WoWi, curse, Cosmos forums? |
| 12:27.41 | Wobin_ | netcurse: All fixed =) |
| 12:27.54 | Maldivia | US |
| 12:28.13 | Maldivia | which other forums go down at this time of day on tuesdays ? |
| 12:28.36 | Miravlix | No idea, I don't play US |
| 12:29.51 | KarlKFI | doh... well I WAS gonna test my new and improved Wardrobe.. |
| 12:29.59 | Wobin_ | hehe KarlKFI I feel the same =) |
| 12:30.03 | KarlKFI | forgot it was tuesday |
| 12:30.19 | Wobin_ | It's like.. doodeedoodeecodecodecode....do'h... tuesday |
| 12:31.11 | KarlKFI | and i just finished converting it to use Localization too.. |
| 12:31.24 | KarlKFI | I dont want to mess with anything else incase i broke something |
| 12:31.29 | Maldivia | Wobin_: decode ? :) |
| 12:31.43 | KarlKFI | spose mira could test it.. |
| 12:31.48 | Wobin_ | I wonderhehe |
| 12:31.51 | Wobin_ | oops |
| 12:31.54 | Wobin_ | mistype |
| 12:31.58 | Wobin_ | hehe =P |
| 12:32.15 | KarlKFI | Miravlix> you wanna test my completely untested wardrobe edit? |
| 12:32.25 | Miravlix | Trying to setup SeaCIB's table structure, so it's usefull for Wardrobe |
| 12:32.30 | Maldivia | ... just say no... :) |
| 12:32.58 | Miravlix | KarlKFI: Sure |
| 12:33.05 | KarlKFI | why would it be useful for wardrobe? you plan on constantly scanning your inventory and spells? |
| 12:33.20 | KarlKFI | nm |
| 12:35.07 | wereHamster | krka|work, can FAIAP 'compress' lua code? as in remove all whitespaces etc and pout it all on one line? |
| 12:35.21 | krka|work | yes it could |
| 12:35.33 | krka|work | not out of the box, but you could modify it (add a parameter) |
| 12:35.35 | wereHamster | .. even if I don't use ';' in my code? |
| 12:35.51 | krka|work | note that removing _all_ whitespace is a BAD idea |
| 12:36.00 | krka|work | i assume you meant converting " " to " " |
| 12:36.11 | krka|work | removing ; is also a a bad idea |
| 12:36.32 | wereHamster | I know.. in ColdFusionShell I save the script in SV.. and if the scripts get bigger it would be nice to compress them a little bit |
| 12:36.39 | krka|work | wereHamster, can you send in a feature request on wowi with exactly what you want |
| 12:36.44 | krka|work | and i'll take a look at it when i get home from work |
| 12:39.30 | krka|work | hmm |
| 12:39.38 | krka|work | wereHamster, the best thing would really be if you wrote your own compressor |
| 12:39.53 | KarlKFI | Miravlix> it's on svn |
| 12:39.56 | krka|work | (but add it to FAIAP, you can use the nextToken-function) |
| 12:40.10 | krka|work | if next token == whitespace, remove it, et.c. |
| 12:40.13 | KarlKFI | and it's rediculously huge |
| 12:40.14 | wereHamster | .. until I or someone hits the SV filesize limit I won't bother ;) |
| 12:40.24 | krka|work | just look at how the colorcodecode() function works |
| 12:40.30 | krka|work | ok |
| 12:40.38 | krka|work | and stripping spaces probably won't save much |
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| 12:41.12 | wereHamster | unless the script is _really_ big bu then again, who would write such big scripts.. |
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| 12:41.29 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:41.32 | Maldivia | morn |
| 12:41.35 | krka|work | i would! |
| 12:42.00 | Miravlix | KarlKFI: toc update? |
| 12:42.15 | wereHamster | really? I can't imagine what one would want to do in such a script |
| 12:42.34 | wereHamster | implement decursive logic? |
| 12:42.42 | KarlKFI | um, huh? what's wrong with the toc? |
| 12:43.06 | Miravlix | If the toc is updated, I have to restart WoW. :) |
| 12:46.16 | KarlKFI | oh, yes |
| 12:46.34 | KarlKFI | tho in this case you might be able to get off w/o it |
| 12:47.49 | krka|work | my grab library will most likely become huge :) |
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| 13:13.54 | wereHamster | krka|work, same as google, wowwiki.com can't be mirrored by wget :( |
| 13:15.32 | krka|work | httrack --mirror -s0 www.wowwiki.com |
| 13:15.33 | krka|work | FTW |
| 13:16.12 | Maldivia | wereHamster: you can use wget :) |
| 13:16.26 | wereHamster | all I get is the Main_Page |
| 13:16.34 | wereHamster | same as google.. I only get index.html |
| 13:16.56 | Maldivia | wereHamster: that's because you don't know how to set up wget then :) |
| 13:17.11 | wereHamster | wget -m -p --convert-links wowwiki.com ? |
| 13:17.12 | Maldivia | although, wget crawling on wowwiki has been disabled, it can be bypassed |
| 13:17.46 | zenzelezz | would be nice if wowwiki did like some other wikis and offered a .zip (or some archive) download |
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| 13:18.34 | Maldivia | krka: I take it, httrack doesn't obey robots.txt? |
| 13:18.50 | krka|work | not with -s0 |
| 13:19.17 | krka|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.17 | krka|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.17 | krka|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.46 | Maldivia | just remember to add a wait parameter aswell |
| 13:20.00 | Maldivia | if you look in the robots.txt file: |
| 13:20.01 | Maldivia | # *at least* 1 second please. preferably more :D |
| 13:20.01 | Maldivia | Crawl-delay: 1 |
| 13:20.11 | wereHamster | Sorry, wget in its recursive mode is a frequent problem. .. hehe :) |
| 13:20.40 | Miravlix | # |
| 13:20.40 | Miravlix | # Sorry, wget in its recursive mode is a frequent problem. |
| 13:20.51 | Miravlix | # Please read the man page and use it properly; there is a |
| 13:20.53 | Miravlix | # --wait option you can use to set the delay between hits, |
| 13:20.55 | Miravlix | # for instance. |
| 13:20.57 | Miravlix | # |
| 13:22.03 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Wow, I go to bed and come to find rumours of the alliance race and a possible Warcraft movie |
| 13:22.26 | wereHamster | Miravlix, it still doesn't work.. even with robots=off |
| 13:23.06 | Miravlix | Not a possible Warcraft movie, it's official |
| 13:23.22 | JoshBorke | new vim :-D |
| 13:23.22 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: hehe... E3 is almost here, and rumours are everywhere |
| 13:23.27 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Official? |
| 13:25.59 | Kaso | Was CTRA still causing that combo point bug on chromaggus? |
| 13:26.44 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Ah the Hollywood Reporter has an article on it ... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002464761 |
| 13:27.09 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | There's only one quote from Blizzard, and why would they get a source before the annoucement? |
| 13:28.06 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | "Looking at a video on the show floor, the new Alliance race is ugly with grayish skin, and glowing eyes similar to the Forsaken. Its chin has two things like tentacles hanging down, one on either side, and it's humanoid and human-size. There's also a huge picture of Khadgar nearby." |
| 13:28.26 | ckknight | um, Draenei? |
| 13:29.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's basically a description of The Broken |
| 13:29.12 | ckknight | The Broken? |
| 13:29.35 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/bestiary.html |
| 13:29.42 | wereHamster | Maldivia, wget wowwiki.com doesn't work, but wget wowwiki.com/Main_Page does .. |
| 13:30.13 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | However it can't be the Broken as "the Broken still present a clear danger to all of Illidan's enemies throughout Outland" |
| 13:30.25 | Wobin_ | Maldivia: afaik httrack -does- have robot.txt support |
| 13:30.56 | Maldivia | Wobin_: krka already mentioned the -sN switch, how pedantic it should parse robots.txt :) |
| 13:31.03 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/images/bestiary/thumb-thebroken.jpg |
| 13:31.31 | Maldivia | The Broken are related to the Draenei, just like Blood Elves and Night Elves are related, right? |
| 13:31.44 | Beladona | Alliance race perhaps? |
| 13:32.21 | ckknight | they look similar to Draenei |
| 13:32.22 | Beladona | I would play one? |
| 13:32.28 | Beladona | err didn't mean ? |
| 13:32.36 | Beladona | I think they look cool |
| 13:32.37 | Maldivia | The Broken are listed as beasts... so doublt it |
| 13:32.49 | ckknight | I'd figure the Draenei are much more likely to be the Alliance race |
| 13:32.57 | ckknight | compared to The Broken |
| 13:33.00 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 13:33.11 | Maldivia | but you'll all be surprised... |
| 13:33.18 | ckknight | ? |
| 13:33.19 | Beladona | the Drenai allied with the blood elves |
| 13:33.24 | Beladona | it would take a shift in lore to do that |
| 13:33.46 | ckknight | Beladona, yes, but before they realized the demons' corruption on the BEs |
| 13:33.47 | Industrial | where can i read warcraft lore? |
| 13:33.51 | Industrial | i know 0 about it |
| 13:33.56 | ckknight | wikipedia's good, so is wowwiki |
| 13:33.58 | Industrial | never heard of the broken or dranei |
| 13:34.02 | Beladona | nowhere says they did anything in response to the BE's lust for power |
| 13:34.12 | ckknight | isn't it about time? |
| 13:34.35 | Beladona | like I said, it would take a shift in lore, but it wouldn't be impossible |
| 13:34.39 | Maldivia | well, apparently they didn't lust the power themselves, otherwise they probably wouldn't be in the state they are today |
| 13:34.43 | Beladona | wouldn't be the first time Blizz did something like that |
| 13:35.27 | Maldivia | but I'd imagine we'll have official words on the Alliance race on thursday or friday... |
| 13:35.35 | Beladona | I could see a split in the Draenai though. Some leaving to join the alliance, some staying |
| 13:35.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Wednesday, I reckon :) |
| 13:36.04 | Beladona | The Broken could be the "beastiary" that stayed with the BE's in outland |
| 13:36.10 | Maldivia | yeah ok, the expo starts tomorrow |
| 13:36.25 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, nowhere said the Blood Elves has split into two factions before it was annouceed |
| 13:36.30 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *had |
| 13:36.31 | Beladona | right |
| 13:37.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | As I say, the Broken are unlikely, but that is only one faction of Draenei alikes |
| 13:37.13 | Maldivia | but for some reason, I think Pandaran will be in the expansion... |
| 13:37.26 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | =) I'm hoping for it |
| 13:37.42 | Beladona | thats why I think it is possible that The Broken are remnant Draenai still loyal to the Blood Elves in outland, while the main Draenai defected and joined the alliance |
| 13:37.56 | Maldivia | not saying necessarily as a playable race, but more as a spoof somewhere... |
| 13:38.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Beladona, agreed |
| 13:38.42 | ckknight | it's possible that the Draenai, like the Forsaken will be Neutral instead of Friendly to the other races by default |
| 13:38.49 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | DraenEi |
| 13:39.16 | Maldivia | Well, the Draenei IS neutral by default, just go talk to them in the swamp |
| 13:39.27 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | heh |
| 13:39.36 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | That's the lost ones but yeah |
| 13:39.47 | ckknight | they went insane |
| 13:40.02 | ckknight | because of detachment from Draenor |
| 13:40.24 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | And shrunk in size apparently, if reports of the new race being the size of Tauren are to be believed |
| 13:40.47 | Maldivia | psst... Pandaran would be big... |
| 13:40.48 | Maldivia | :9 |
| 13:40.56 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Yeah, the Lost Ones are mutated and incredibly homesick |
| 13:41.40 | Wobin_ | panderans would so pander to the Chinese market =) |
| 13:42.32 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :) At least the whole 'pandaren would be banned in China' thing has started to peter out |
| 13:42.51 | Maldivia | never got that... |
| 13:44.30 | Maldivia | btw, seen the info about the naxx sets, and the new AD recipees ? |
| 13:44.59 | Wobin_ | yeah |
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| 13:46.11 | Maldivia | my Chinese is a bit rusty though :| |
| 13:46.46 | Maldivia | not to say, very rusty... |
| 13:47.07 | Maldivia | I like the look of the key-ring implementation though |
| 13:47.12 | Wobin_ | Yeah =) |
| 13:47.14 | Wobin_ | Thank god |
| 13:48.00 | Maldivia | but it'll probably be available in an English edition later today, after maintenance |
| 13:48.59 | Beladona | Alliance DOES need a large race |
| 13:49.16 | Beladona | its a cosmetic thing, but it would give them something like the Tauren |
| 13:49.47 | Maldivia | Alliance has: small, medium, and 2x large |
| 13:49.49 | Elkano | I wonder what the racials will be |
| 13:49.58 | Maldivia | Horde: 3x large, 1x Extra large :) |
| 13:50.07 | Beladona | Pandaren: Drunken Fury |
| 13:50.22 | Maldivia | nono: Pandaran: Summon Food |
| 13:50.24 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Mmm, Bingchaun, Pobing, Hanlin, Beiji sets ... I think they should keep those names |
| 13:50.35 | Beladona | nah, Pandarens were drunken masters |
| 13:50.59 | Industrial | new weapons! bamboo nintjaku's! |
| 13:51.04 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | If the race is Draenei and large, how exactly are they supposed to be stealthy assassins? |
| 13:51.07 | Industrial | s/tj/ch |
| 13:51.13 | Maldivia | Beladona: well, was just refering to the 2005 April's fool :9 |
| 13:51.16 | wereHamster | Beladona, you meant werePandarens ? |
| 13:51.46 | Maldivia | hmm, I guess I'll need to work on my AD faction to get it to exalted... |
| 13:51.55 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The description also fits the Eredar |
| 13:51.57 | Industrial | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft |
| 13:52.03 | Industrial | see how the orc has horns... |
| 13:52.15 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | In fact it fits the Eredar better, scaly tail, hooves |
| 13:52.17 | Industrial | (left of face) |
| 13:52.20 | Beladona | interesting |
| 13:52.48 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Eredar: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Eredar.jpg |
| 13:52.55 | Wobin_ | Is there anyway to get a statusbar to slide from right to left? |
| 13:53.07 | Wobin_ | (ie start from the right end and extend to the left one) |
| 13:53.08 | Beladona | I had created a custom highlighting script for GeSHi on my site, to highlight the global and widget functions, but removing them reduced the load time for Globalstrings.lua from 57 seconds to 17 seconds |
| 13:53.28 | Maldivia | ohh, and the tier 3 chest piece for warriors is a bit insane... |
| 13:53.30 | Beladona | so I guess global and widget functions mustn'y be highlighted |
| 13:53.46 | Beladona | or maybe I can put custom detection in for specific "large" files and do no highlighting on them.... |
| 13:53.53 | Beladona | mmm |
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| 13:54.49 | Wobin_ | Bingchuan - Glacier, Pobing - Icebreaker, Hanlin - Winter Forest, Beiji - Archivist(?), btw |
| 13:55.36 | Wobin_ | oh wait |
| 13:55.41 | Wobin_ | Beiji - North pole |
| 13:55.46 | Wobin_ | That's more in line with the rst |
| 14:12.38 | Industrial | Wobin_: what is this? |
| 14:12.45 | Wobin_ | translations =P |
| 14:12.51 | Industrial | of what where how when why? |
| 14:13.12 | Wobin_ | <Kirkburn|Wiggle> Mmm, Bingchaun, Pobing, Hanlin, Beiji sets ... I think they should keep those names |
| 14:13.26 | Wobin_ | The AD crafting sets |
| 14:13.49 | Kaso | Cool proper names |
| 14:17.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | No doubt there would be a backlash from idiots on the forums saying "the chinese are invading out game!" if they kept those names |
| 14:17.51 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *our |
| 14:18.31 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Wow, would ya look at the innovative design of the PS3 controller ... http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/08/the-real-playstation-3-controller-revealed/ |
| 14:25.24 | Beladona | I love that |
| 14:25.34 | Beladona | sony just wiid all over nintendo |
| 14:26.47 | Beladona | seriously though, that movement sensor thing is stupid |
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| 14:27.03 | Beladona | I always make fun of people that move their controllers around when playing racing games |
| 14:27.10 | Beladona | now they can actually do that and have it do something |
| 14:27.16 | Beladona | oh well |
| 14:29.41 | Wobin_ | Nintendo POWER GLOVE |
| 14:29.44 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Yes, well Sony's new tag line should be "imitate, not innovate" |
| 14:29.46 | Wobin_ | That was fun =) |
| 14:30.31 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I can just imagine the Sony meeting after the Nintendo annoucement ... "zomg! We've gotta do the same! Whatever the cost!" |
| 14:31.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | At least the Nintendo controller can be used for more things |
| 14:31.24 | Wobin_ | You too, can run away and win the commendation of your parents and friends by winning a Nintendo Compeition! |
| 14:31.28 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | ? |
| 14:31.37 | Wobin_ | You never saw The Wizard? =) |
| 14:31.41 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | nope |
| 14:31.46 | Wobin_ | Shame =P |
| 14:31.58 | Wobin_ | Plotline is as above =P |
| 14:32.00 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Mmmm, Askbringer |
| 14:32.03 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Ah, lol |
| 14:32.08 | Wobin_ | Askbringer what? |
| 14:32.08 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *Ashbringer, dammit |
| 14:32.44 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/flash2pic.htm# |
| 14:32.51 | Wobin_ | =P |
| 14:33.44 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Keys! http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/key.htm |
| 14:33.54 | netcurse | Up again http://www.curse-gaming.com/ :x |
| 14:33.56 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's a new bad slot |
| 14:34.05 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | ooooooh! |
| 14:34.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Hello newcurse :P |
| 14:35.53 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Very nice |
| 14:37.21 | JoshBorke | holy mother of pearl! KEYRINGS ROCK! |
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| 14:38.22 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Er, netcurse ... "Last Month's Downloads: 1" ... does it only record from today? |
| 14:38.27 | netcurse | yes |
| 14:38.32 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | okay :) |
| 14:38.53 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The new keyrings are very nice |
| 14:39.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Sensible, too |
| 14:40.08 | Beladona | beta test time! |
| 14:40.09 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code.php?vd=11025302&lnk=FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua |
| 14:41.54 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I'm up to E |
| 14:42.41 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | P |
| 14:43.51 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Done |
| 14:44.07 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | 5211 lines |
| 14:44.59 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | What do you want to know about it Beladona ? |
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| 14:45.42 | Beladona | is it slow / faster? comments? |
| 14:46.10 | Beladona | it loads for me in 7 seconds |
| 14:47.03 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 14:47.04 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Lol, took ages, maybe 2 mins for me ... quite likely cos I was loading other stuff at the time |
| 14:47.26 | Wobin_ | Is there any way of finding out the gender of someone who sends you a tell? (functionally speaking of course =P) |
| 14:47.27 | Beladona | probably |
| 14:48.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's a bit faster this time, but it will still take over a minute to generate |
| 14:48.33 | Kaso | Where does the default UI get the Item Quality colours from/ is it possible to change em, replacing ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS and/or GetItemQualityColor() didnt work |
| 14:48.36 | Beladona | it shouldnt |
| 14:48.59 | Beladona | it took 57 seconds at max for me, but that wasn't when loading several at a time, so maybe |
| 14:49.05 | Wobin_ | 1:51 for me |
| 14:49.24 | Beladona | I disabled all syntax highlighting on that file, to get it down to 7 seconds |
| 14:49.55 | Beladona | ahh well |
| 14:49.57 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | netcurse, will you add 'spanish' as a language soon? |
| 14:50.03 | Beladona | I doubt people will be looking at that one too much |
| 14:50.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | "generated in 6.5672650337219 seconds" |
| 14:50.25 | Beladona | cool |
| 14:50.27 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Uses local copy Wobin |
| 14:50.38 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It generates quickly, but loads slowly |
| 14:51.00 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | (scrath that last comment about the local copy) |
| 14:52.04 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code.php?vd=11025302&lnk=FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua |
| 14:52.12 | Beladona | that one might take a tad longer to laod |
| 14:52.16 | Beladona | mine took 13 seconds |
| 14:52.22 | Beladona | but that is with syntax highlighting enabled |
| 14:54.14 | Wobin_ | bah. |
| 14:54.17 | Wobin_ | I can't find a way =P |
| 14:54.54 | Wobin_ | Anyone have any ideas? Figuring out the gender of someone who sends a whisper to you? |
| 14:55.08 | Tain | Check under the hood? |
| 14:55.24 | Beladona | I believe the ability to get gender is restricted to player and target |
| 14:55.38 | Beladona | and derivitives thereof of course |
| 14:56.01 | Wobin_ | yeah =( |
| 14:56.06 | Beladona | in any case through, they require the query to be on someone within range |
| 14:56.20 | Wobin_ | Indeed |
| 14:56.23 | Wobin_ | Ah well. |
| 14:56.38 | Wobin_ | I can possibly do something fiddly with their class instead |
| 14:56.43 | Beladona | who data only returns race, class, level, location, etc... |
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| 14:57.08 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | "generated in 11.352336883545 seconds" |
| 14:57.10 | Wobin_ | rofl |
| 14:57.16 | Wobin_ | Opera supports '/' searching |
| 14:57.19 | Wobin_ | That's brilliant |
| 14:58.25 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Anyone who didn't see .... keyrings! http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/images/1_key.jpg |
| 14:58.32 | Beladona | yeah |
| 14:58.50 | Beladona | that tiny icon seems silly though |
| 14:59.00 | Beladona | they should make it a button on the inventory panel |
| 14:59.45 | Beladona | and I want to jingle when I walk with keys in ym keyring |
| 14:59.45 | Beladona | and they should be visible |
| 14:59.46 | Beladona | hehe jk |
| 15:00.38 | Kaso | I want to know if pseudo keys will go in there, like the Mara scepter and Oyxnia neck and stuff |
| 15:01.08 | Kaso | guess pseudo prob isht the right word but.. still |
| 15:02.30 | Wobin_ | Oh bela? Chatframelua =P |
| 15:02.34 | Wobin_ | 9:04 |
| 15:02.51 | Wobin_ | Unkeyshaped keys |
| 15:03.02 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Kaso, I very much doubt it |
| 15:03.19 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | If it can be worn, I doubt it'll go in the keyring |
| 15:03.32 | Wobin_ | The mara sceptre can't be worn |
| 15:03.35 | Kaso | Maybe not the oyxnia one, but the mara one i cant think why not |
| 15:03.50 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I don't know that one |
| 15:04.08 | Wobin_ | It's a sceptre that allows you to portal directly (pretty much) to the Princess in Maraudon |
| 15:04.48 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Does it look big? |
| 15:05.09 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | (Christ, the PS3 will cost at least $500 for the *basic* model) |
| 15:05.15 | Wobin_ | It's a sceptre =) |
| 15:05.27 | Tain | PS3 is having issues. :) |
| 15:06.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Tain, yes, the reponse is not good. |
| 15:06.43 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :P |
| 15:06.58 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Okay, well I don't think the sceptre will go on the keyring |
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| 15:07.29 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's a portal object rather than an unlocking device |
| 15:07.56 | Kaso | You're prob right |
| 15:09.17 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Even so, it's a great addition |
| 15:09.19 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :) |
| 15:10.01 | Kaso | of course, anything that saves me bags space is good |
| 15:10.09 | Kaso | *bank |
| 15:12.04 | Kaso | anything that saves me bags space is good |
| 15:12.04 | Kaso | (16:10:11) (Kaso) *bank |
| 15:12.12 | Kaso | fucking mIRC :< |
| 15:12.30 | Kaso | Where does the default UI get the Item Quality colours from/ is it possible to change em, replacing ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS and/or GetItemQualityColor() didnt work |
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| 15:17.10 | Wobin_ | Ooh. |
| 15:17.12 | Wobin_ | Orphan Week |
| 15:17.15 | Wobin_ | I can get my Speedy! |
| 15:17.43 | Wobin_ | Although I still haven't seen the rat pet |
| 15:17.59 | Kaso | The rat looks pretty much like a normal rat |
| 15:18.51 | Wobin_ | bah =( |
| 15:18.53 | Wobin_ | No fun |
| 15:19.02 | Wobin_ | I'll go for the turtle then |
| 15:19.11 | Tain | I'm mean when I start out a new character, I always keep my MiniDiablo or Panda pet out. |
| 15:19.18 | Tain | And people ask, "Where can I get that?" |
| 15:19.24 | Tain | And I say you can't! |
| 15:19.33 | Wobin_ | muhaha |
| 15:19.57 | Tain | Thankfully I haven't been trumped by a murloc pet yet. |
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| 15:22.20 | Wobin_ | I know I've asked this before... but any created UIObject is -not- GC'd, correct? |
| 15:22.56 | Maldivia | no UIObject is ever GCed |
| 15:23.01 | Wobin_ | Thanks =) |
| 15:23.15 | Maldivia | (well, except on reloadui / logout) |
| 15:24.18 | Maldivia | Also, there will always be a reference to a UIObject... so it can't really be GC'ed :) |
| 15:27.45 | Maldivia | hmm, someone has started posting chinese short descriptions to the wowwiki... |
| 15:29.45 | Wobin_ | This is a good thing, yes? |
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| 15:30.25 | Maldivia | I guess so... and it's not "spammers", it's actual translations :) |
| 15:32.13 | Tain | Damn, I was hoping for a little more from the PS3 controller. |
| 15:32.54 | Maldivia | than a copy of Sidewinder Freestyle, from 1999 ? |
| 15:33.02 | sancus | wow china took down all the fun info :P |
| 15:33.28 | Maldivia | you mean, they put up the "wait" message? |
| 15:33.41 | Tain | Well honestly the Dual Shock type layout is still my favorite of any controller, all they needed to do to make it perfect for me is switch the crosspad and left analog stick locations. |
| 15:33.57 | Tain | Since games use the stick more than the pad these days, as opposed to when it first launched where it was the opposite. |
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| 15:36.32 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | sanus, they haven't |
| 15:36.39 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *sancus :) |
| 15:36.51 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Only some of the pages are still locked |
| 15:36.55 | Maldivia | wohoo... children's week... I want a turtle... |
| 15:37.12 | Maldivia | yeah, with a nice "you have to wait" message in the center :) |
| 15:38.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Lol ... http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-dungeons/507339.htm |
| 15:39.12 | Wobin_ | Maldivia: That was my reaction exactly =) |
| 15:39.54 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | "For players who do not wish to Tonk, I assure you, we are working on non-Tonk gameplay as well. We don't expect that everyone will Tonk. But for the large Tonking community, please understand that these issues are dire for them. I've read all of the "World of Tonkcraft" threads... I've seen the "Tonk or quit" arguements made. But please realize, we're trying to make the game better for everyone." |
| 15:40.38 | Wobin_ | heheh |
| 15:40.41 | Wobin_ | Tigole ftw |
| 15:40.50 | Tem | tonk == raid? |
| 15:41.08 | Wobin_ | nah |
| 15:41.12 | Wobin_ | tonk == toy tanks |
| 15:41.16 | Tem | twink? |
| 15:41.26 | Wobin_ | in the Darkmoon faire |
| 15:41.33 | Wobin_ | you can play with remote controlled tanks |
| 15:41.37 | Tem | omg |
| 15:41.44 | Wobin_ | It's so much fun =) |
| 15:41.45 | Tem | Iwantoneofthose |
| 15:42.29 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's great fun :D |
| 15:42.42 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | To Mulgore! |
| 15:42.46 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :P |
| 15:43.29 | Maldivia | hmm... is this typical pvp warlock inventory: http://www.wowtaiwan.com.tw/upl/msg/pic/RES106000000717.jpg |
| 15:45.38 | wereHamster | 9998g .. need ! |
| 15:45.39 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Not a clue |
| 15:47.00 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | He hasn't got a big range of spells available |
| 15:47.24 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I have every single slot filles with spells on my lock |
| 15:47.45 | Maldivia | he might be using the old "change page" trick :) |
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| 15:48.07 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Yeah possible, but hardly convenient |
| 15:48.14 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Esp in PvP |
| 15:50.29 | Maldivia | hmm, is the wow site changelog still available? |
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| 15:54.33 | Maldivia | hmm... 30mins to the Nintendo E3 press conference... |
| 15:55.22 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The wow site changelog? |
| 15:55.42 | Maldivia | yeah, can't remember the url.. |
| 15:55.55 | Maldivia | there used to be a page on the site, that listed changes to the site |
| 15:56.03 | Maldivia | don't know if it still exists... |
| 15:56.42 | Maldivia | previously that was the source for a lot of information up to a day before the info was actually released |
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| 15:58.08 | Shouryuu | wow |
| 15:58.21 | Shouryuu | the new CG site is neat |
| 15:58.23 | Maldivia | that's the name of the game |
| 15:58.31 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 16:00.05 | Shouryuu | w00t 500 downloads on WoWI :P weee |
| 16:00.40 | Maldivia | the new frost armor from recipees looks quite nice, for resistance armor... |
| 16:01.08 | Maldivia | and the new warrior tier 3 breastplate... well, that's just sick |
| 16:02.25 | Wobin_ | Any way to 'rename' a frame? |
| 16:05.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | oooh, the scourge are gonna visit IF ... "It also shows some pretty impressive floating Scourge ziggarauts, one even floating outside Ironforge. " |
| 16:06.32 | Maldivia | Wobin_: rename... as in change what GetName() returns ? |
| 16:06.37 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 16:06.45 | Maldivia | ... overwrite GetName ? :) |
| 16:07.00 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: ? |
| 16:07.26 | Wobin_ | ... I -guess- I could =P In a manner of speaking =P |
| 16:07.55 | Wobin_ | Since the frame is technically a table... |
| 16:08.00 | Wobin_ | Isn't it? |
| 16:08.04 | Maldivia | yep |
| 16:08.10 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 16:08.18 | Wobin_ | Interesting =P |
| 16:08.21 | Maldivia | frame.GetName = function() return "Muhahaha" end |
| 16:08.27 | Wobin_ | (omg HACK) |
| 16:08.31 | Maldivia | and to reset it: frame.GetName = nil |
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| 16:08.56 | Maldivia | since, if it's not present, the metatable will try to look it up on the userdata object |
| 16:09.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Maldivia, for the release of 1.11, when the Scourge Invasion event starts ... gamespy mentioned that about the preview vid |
| 16:09.45 | Maldivia | ohh |
| 16:10.07 | krka|work | i overwrite Get/SetText in editboxes :) |
| 16:10.12 | krka|work | i'd sat getname is a minor hack |
| 16:10.46 | Wobin_ | krka: But that's -never- good! |
| 16:10.55 | Wobin_ | (okay, I think we've beaten that joke into the ground =P) |
| 16:11.24 | krka|work | true |
| 16:11.25 | Codayus | Wobin_: That's unpossible! |
| 16:11.59 | Wobin_ | Codayus: You keep using that word. I do not think if means what you think it means... |
| 16:12.05 | Codayus | :-) |
| 16:12.57 | Tem | Wobin_: *Don't* do that |
| 16:13.06 | Tem | ****DON'T**** do that |
| 16:13.17 | Wobin_ | ? |
| 16:13.24 | Tem | For example: |
| 16:13.44 | Tem | CreateFrame("Frame","FrameA") |
| 16:13.59 | Adrine | Having just walked into this conversation, why? |
| 16:14.03 | Tem | FrameA:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,0,0) |
| 16:14.14 | Tem | FrameA = nil |
| 16:14.29 | Tem | CreateFrame("Frame","FrameB") |
| 16:14.46 | Tem | FrameB:SetPoint("CENTER","FrameA",0,0) |
| 16:15.10 | Tem | Even after you nil the global reference to the frame, it still keeps that name |
| 16:15.28 | Tem | and you can use that name to attach things to it |
| 16:15.48 | Tem | So, it's *******BAD****** to have a frame lie about it's name |
| 16:15.49 | Wobin_ | What happens if you CreateFrame witht he same name twice? |
| 16:15.57 | Tem | CreateFrame silently fails |
| 16:16.09 | Tem | (iirc) |
| 16:16.19 | Wobin_ | Okay, I'll just have to go about it the more somewhat complex way =) |
| 16:16.19 | Tem | (last time I tried that was on the 0.10 PTR) |
| 16:16.28 | Maldivia | hmm, what will FrameA = CreateFrame("Frame" "FrameA") --[[...]] FrameA = nil CreateFrame("Frame", "FrameA") -- will that give an error, creating two frames with the same name, or will the first just loose it's name ? |
| 16:16.34 | Maldivia | grr |
| 16:16.53 | Maldivia | that what happens, when you are slow to pres enter, and start to browse :) |
| 16:16.58 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 16:17.00 | Tem | hehe |
| 16:17.04 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The WoW site is down :S |
| 16:17.11 | Tem | no surpirzes |
| 16:17.16 | Tem | it's Maintenance day |
| 16:17.42 | Maldivia | well, I'm currently waiting for the Nintendo Press Conference to start |
| 16:18.20 | Tem | I just wanna know if I'm going to have to reroll my main |
| 16:18.38 | Maldivia | why reroll ? |
| 16:18.51 | Tem | 1 of 2 reasons |
| 16:18.58 | Tem | 1: The mage changes turn out to suck |
| 16:19.09 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Live coverage of the Wii event ... http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/engadget-and-joystiqs-live-coverage-of-nintendos-wii-e3-event/ |
| 16:19.11 | Tem | 2: the new alliance race is retarded |
| 16:19.26 | Tem | #2 is more what I'm talking about right now |
| 16:19.34 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | riiiight |
| 16:19.58 | Tem | I swear if they make it Pandaren, I'm deleting all of my alliance toons |
| 16:20.10 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I still fail to see why people restrict themselves to one side on 'moral' grounds |
| 16:20.31 | Tem | I *refuse* to fight along side a panda |
| 16:20.33 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, tbh, I'd love it if it turned out you had to do that :P |
| 16:20.50 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Because, like, pandas are stupid, yeah? |
| 16:20.55 | Tem | I would, however, very much enjoy killing them all the time |
| 16:20.56 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Unlike cows. |
| 16:21.14 | Tem | Actually, my complaint on the pandas is they seem out of place in the lore |
| 16:21.24 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Cows seem 'in place'? |
| 16:21.30 | Tem | I didn't play enough of war3 to really know what I'm talking about |
| 16:21.48 | Tem | but they feel like someone pooped on the table and someone else said "hey it looks like a panda!" |
| 16:21.54 | Maldivia | well, yeah.. Pandaran isn't a string enough race in the lore, to justify a playable race |
| 16:21.55 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's hard to complain about non-existant lore tbh ... although Pandaren do have a lot of it already |
| 16:22.03 | Maldivia | strong* |
| 16:22.24 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Tem, i'll keep saying 'cows' at you until the, er, cows come home |
| 16:22.36 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | And no, pandaren have a very strong showing in the RPG books |
| 16:22.47 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | perhaps not in-game, which is where most people find the ino |
| 16:22.49 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *info |
| 16:23.07 | Tem | anyway, I'm so tired right now that even if my argument had a good logical base I'd have a real, real hard time telling you |
| 16:23.19 | Adrine | If they end up making it Eredar or a subfaction of them, I will love Blizzard forever. |
| 16:23.25 | Maldivia | Yes, I know the lore extends to RPG books, but they have slim to no references in the game |
| 16:23.34 | Adrine | Because that's the last thing I'd guess and it'll be fun trying to see them wiggle the lore around to make it fit :D |
| 16:23.52 | Tem | Kirkburn|Wiggle: |
| 16:23.58 | Maldivia | Adrine: if so... screw blood elves! |
| 16:23.59 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Tem: |
| 16:24.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :P |
| 16:24.09 | Tem | (mostly I want an excuse to play a blood elf) |
| 16:24.14 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | hehe |
| 16:24.24 | Tem | (I hit enter when I went to hit shift) |
| 16:24.34 | Maldivia | I want to play a wisp, and detonate in Scarlet Monestary! |
| 16:24.35 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Maldivia, I know of one reference in the game, and possible one other |
| 16:24.36 | Adrine | Lesser Eredar could actually work - the Blodo Elves trap demons in crystals and drain them of their powers. |
| 16:25.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Pandaren have an outpost in the Stonetalon Mts, but it's not in-game :( |
| 16:25.04 | Adrine | If there is a faction of Eredar that splits with the primary Eredar faction and forms an alliance of convenience against the Blood Elves (and thus their allies, the Horde), it could work. |
| 16:25.07 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: yeah, and that's not really a strong reference :) |
| 16:25.20 | Maldivia | but well see for sure tomorrow, when the videos will be all over the web |
| 16:25.25 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's alcohol-related, natch |
| 16:26.10 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I like that I managed to influence Adrine's wording ... doubt you would have said 'wiggle' outherwise :P |
| 16:26.22 | Adrine | You...oh, I didn't even notice. |
| 16:26.27 | Adrine | Bastard. :P |
| 16:26.35 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Heh, unconcious effects are the best |
| 16:26.50 | Adrine | Pandaren are too obvious, I think |
| 16:26.55 | Adrine | And they don't have the "what" factor. |
| 16:27.01 | Adrine | Eredar are about as "what" as you get. |
| 16:27.16 | Adrine | Of course, I'm setting myself up for disappointment and they'll be overgrown Draenei. |
| 16:27.24 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, yes ... it's like asking Archimonde to play alliance |
| 16:27.32 | Maldivia | I vote Drow... |
| 16:27.46 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, more accurately the Lost Ones/exiles are undergrown Draenei :) |
| 16:27.51 | Qaarh | I vote Wisp! |
| 16:27.54 | Adrine | Not necessarily. The Eredar caste system is extremely...harsh. |
| 16:28.09 | Adrine | I think it plausable that there could be lesser, smaller Eredar that split off from the primary Eredar. |
| 16:28.25 | Tain | Gnome sized Draenei. |
| 16:28.42 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | "You didn't put a full stop at the end of your sentence, Eredar minion! I banish you to Azeroth and the human alliance!" |
| 16:29.10 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | We know the new race will be bigger thana breadbox |
| 16:29.18 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :) |
| 16:29.52 | Tain | The more important thing is that I don't really care what the new races are. |
| 16:30.39 | Tain | I was a little disturbed when I heard that the new Alliance race was Clippy, the MS Office assitant though. |
| 16:31.33 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | burn! |
| 16:31.47 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Die, Clippy! |
| 16:32.06 | Tain | It's going to be a tie-in with Warcraft movie rumoured to be in development. |
| 16:32.17 | Tain | The new race will all look like Ben Affleck. |
| 16:32.22 | Adrine | If it was Clippy, I would roll Horde in a heartbeat just to slaughter Clippies. |
| 16:32.50 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | "You appear to be attacking a Tauren. Would you like to: Attack, Fleeeeeeee, or Punch Your Screen In Disgust?" |
| 16:33.35 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Racial skills: jimmying locks using your left foot. |
| 16:34.25 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Reflection: blinds opponents of the opposing team for 1 second, before bloodlust overcomes then, and cleaves you in twain |
| 16:35.36 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Negative trait: often lost behind sofas. Begins mini-game in which you can win coins and used sticks of chewing gum. |
| 16:49.40 | Wobin_ | .. |
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| 16:49.51 | Adrine | A PS3 with a 20 GB hard drive will cost consumers $499. Those wanting a larger, 60 GB hard drive will pay $599. The $499 version will also lack several features found in the more expensive one. |
| 16:49.51 | Wobin_ | how can I get a tablename as a string? |
| 16:49.52 | Adrine | Yeowch. |
| 16:50.08 | Wobin_ | given a table.... |
| 16:50.11 | krka|work | tablename??? |
| 16:50.15 | krka|work | tables dont have names |
| 16:50.16 | Wobin_ | well.. variable name I guess |
| 16:50.21 | krka|work | variables dont have names |
| 16:51.21 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Adrine, yeah, it's not good |
| 16:51.27 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | And the features missing are major! |
| 16:51.28 | wereHamster | for k,v in getfenv(0) do if (v == myTable) then print(k) end end |
| 16:51.43 | Adrine | Wii will be available in Q4 2006. Heh. |
| 16:51.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The Nintendo annoucement is looking pretty cool |
| 16:51.49 | Adrine | They won't give a price though. |
| 16:51.50 | sancus | the features are more important than the silly HDD |
| 16:51.55 | Wobin_ | wereHamster: Hehe, that's a bit too intensive for my needs =) |
| 16:52.09 | sancus | the $500 one doesnt have HDMI, compactflash, or memory stick slots |
| 16:52.10 | Wobin_ | I can just dump the name into the table itself =) |
| 16:52.44 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | sancus, or WiFi |
| 16:52.48 | sancus | yeah, or that |
| 16:53.07 | sancus | either way im not a console fan so I doubt I'll be buying either one :P |
| 16:53.08 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Also the controllers are, er, dull. |
| 16:53.21 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Me neither, unless the Wii is really that good. |
| 16:53.35 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Hey Cairenn! |
| 16:53.43 | Cairenn | hey wiggle |
| 16:53.57 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | =) |
| 16:53.58 | Maldivia | ... |
| 16:54.01 | Maldivia | hmm... nice :) |
| 16:54.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Lol, Nintendo thanks "both" the people who wrote good things about the new name |
| 16:54.48 | Adrine | WOO ZELDA PRESENTATION |
| 16:54.52 | Maldivia | yeah! |
| 16:55.02 | Adrine | I am a total and complete zelda fanboy. |
| 16:55.10 | Maldivia | who isn't? |
| 16:55.11 | Adrine | It's going to be a launch title. |
| 16:55.12 | Adrine | Hell yes. |
| 17:02.13 | Adrine | Zelda is looking like it could be really, really solid. |
| 17:02.18 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 17:02.25 | Maldivia | where are you watching the stream from ? |
| 17:02.29 | Adrine | Gamespot |
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| 17:02.46 | Maldivia | ok, same... was hoping you knew a better version :| |
| 17:02.47 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Link? |
| 17:02.47 | Adrine | http://e3.nintendo.com/ |
| 17:03.02 | Adrine | http://www.gamespot.com/pages/special_events/live.php?event=e32006 |
| 17:03.21 | Wobin_ | We've an hour til the US servers are back up again? |
| 17:03.21 | Cairenn | http://www.ogaming.com/data/4038~E3LatestUpdates.php |
| 17:03.32 | Cairenn | forums are back up, I was able to log in |
| 17:04.13 | Cairenn | servers are back up too, just logged in |
| 17:04.52 | Cairenn | errr, odd ... *some* of the servers are back up |
| 17:05.03 | Cairenn | I can only hit 1 out of the 6 I've got characters on |
| 17:05.11 | Cairenn | Draka, amusingly enough |
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| 17:05.25 | Wobin_ | can we do ..\Myfolder\my.lua in the toc? |
| 17:05.34 | Adrine | Believe so |
| 17:05.49 | Tain | Dunno, never tried or saw anything try to go back up one. |
| 17:05.59 | Miravlix | Wobin_: Yes |
| 17:06.08 | Wobin_ | ta =) |
| 17:06.20 | Miravlix | Some use it to do ../../FrameXML/file |
| 17:06.33 | Maldivia | the blizzard addons, for instace :) |
| 17:07.42 | Adrine | Wow. Nintendo is showing 27 Wii games at E3. |
| 17:07.47 | Adrine | That's pretty impressive. |
| 17:07.52 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | yeah |
| 17:08.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | All playable already |
| 17:08.11 | Adrine | Ooh, Red Steel. |
| 17:08.13 | Miravlix | BTW: Whats so wrong about Wii? |
| 17:08.24 | Adrine | I dunno. I think Nintendo is going to make it work. |
| 17:08.25 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | there's something wrong with it? |
| 17:08.27 | Adrine | Ot |
| 17:08.32 | Adrine | It's different |
| 17:08.40 | Adrine | People tend to balk at different |
| 17:08.52 | Miravlix | Everyone seem to think it's some joke, but I don't know why. |
| 17:09.00 | Maldivia | I still think the Wii logo, looks like something from Apple :) |
| 17:09.05 | Adrine | it does |
| 17:10.02 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Just cause it's got an 'i' in |
| 17:10.10 | Adrine | Well |
| 17:10.16 | Adrine | Now, when someone won't give up the controller |
| 17:10.22 | Adrine | I can't say "There's no I in Wii"! |
| 17:10.26 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :P |
| 17:10.30 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 17:10.44 | Maldivia | you can say: there are 2 I's in Wii, so share! |
| 17:11.10 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Is that irony? |
| 17:11.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I can't tell |
| 17:11.35 | Adrine | Someone was joking that if they came out with a multitap, they should call it the Wiiiiiiii |
| 17:11.42 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | hehe |
| 17:11.43 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 17:12.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's a somewhat violent game for Nintendo to be showcasing |
| 17:12.31 | Adrine | I think it's just atypical of Nintendo's "kiddy" image |
| 17:12.39 | Maldivia | well, they need to show, that you can do fps games with the controllers |
| 17:12.54 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Yeah, it's hard to beat mouse+keyboard |
| 17:12.55 | Adrine | But if it was on PS3 or the 360, no one would care |
| 17:14.11 | Wobin_ | What happens if you try to create a texture with the same name as a preivously created Frame? |
| 17:14.15 | Wobin_ | Same silent fail? |
| 17:14.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | oooh, swordfighting |
| 17:14.24 | Maldivia | looks cool |
| 17:14.27 | Adrine | It seems like the swordfighting is still a bit raw |
| 17:14.29 | Adrine | But it has a lot of potential |
| 17:14.35 | Maldivia | ohh yeah |
| 17:14.58 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Nintendo DS time |
| 17:14.59 | Maldivia | the presenter is just... boring to look at |
| 17:15.07 | Adrine | He's very wooden. |
| 17:15.27 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | mmm |
| 17:15.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | He's just so expressive with his hands ;) |
| 17:16.09 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | open. close. open. close. open. close. open. close :) |
| 17:16.30 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 17:20.19 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I want uphill skaters |
| 17:21.31 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Mm, great use of ethnic minorities, the white guy, the black guy and the asian ... |
| 17:21.39 | Maldivia | hee |
| 17:21.58 | Maldivia | and the same with the women |
| 17:22.04 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | yeah |
| 17:22.22 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Aww, they've given up now |
| 17:23.14 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | You know on children's programs where they have kids giving reponses .. it's often so forced, you can predict what race the next kid in line will be |
| 17:25.04 | Kirov | Is it so wrong that I'm giddy about playing nintendo Wii? |
| 17:25.09 | Cairenn | okay, time to pick kiddo up from school for a dentist appointment, out for a couple hours, see you guys later |
| 17:25.10 | Adrine | I am too! |
| 17:25.21 | Adrine | Later Cairenn |
| 17:25.53 | Kirov | Nintendo has always been good about showing off hardware, except the Nintendo Gamecube which was the only one they only showed a long line vs. on the show floor. |
| 17:25.55 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5088/4116772yv.jpg |
| 17:25.57 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | !!!! |
| 17:26.03 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8278/4116784fb.jpg |
| 17:26.05 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | !!!! |
| 17:26.12 | Adrine | Eredar. |
| 17:26.14 | Adrine | Hell yes. |
| 17:26.40 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 17:26.46 | Maldivia | uhh... |
| 17:27.12 | Wobin_ | It seems that if I create a texture with the same name as a previously created frame, the name is pointed at the texture. |
| 17:27.19 | Wobin_ | rather than failing silently |
| 17:27.32 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | ZOMG |
| 17:27.33 | Tem | and if you try to create a frame with the same name as a previously created frame? |
| 17:27.42 | Adrine | ZOMG indeed. |
| 17:27.45 | Kirov | Kirkburn - are those Satyr? |
| 17:27.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Click those links! |
| 17:27.48 | Adrine | Eredar. |
| 17:27.52 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I haven't the faintest! |
| 17:28.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, they *might* be eredar |
| 17:28.10 | Adrine | They look exactly like them at least. |
| 17:28.11 | Maldivia | The general forums is filled with eredar posts :) |
| 17:28.14 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The piccie of the Broken looks quite similar |
| 17:28.35 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | All I can say is ... OMFG |
| 17:29.29 | Wobin_ | Tem: It fails, like advertised |
| 17:29.43 | Beladona | those do NOT look like Draenei |
| 17:29.48 | Beladona | similar, but no |
| 17:29.54 | Adrine | Those are Eredar, or something that looks exactly like them. |
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| 17:30.31 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/downloads/WOWEx_Blizcon-downloader.exe |
| 17:30.35 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | !!! |
| 17:30.44 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | waitasec |
| 17:30.44 | Adrine | What is that? |
| 17:30.54 | Maldivia | that's the blizcon video : |
| 17:30.55 | Wobin_ | Tem: And the Frame is now a Texture |
| 17:30.55 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 17:31.00 | Adrine | Ooh. |
| 17:31.05 | Beladona | I can't picture Eredar as an alliance race |
| 17:31.07 | Tem | Wobin_: hrm |
| 17:31.08 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | sorry, I may be wrong with that :P |
| 17:31.17 | Beladona | I mean, they are demons |
| 17:31.34 | Wobin_ | (According to GetObjectType()) |
| 17:31.43 | Tem | Wobin_: you might want to report that |
| 17:31.49 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | (someone posted the link, I didn't read it at first) |
| 17:31.49 | Iriel|working | Report what? |
| 17:31.53 | Tem | I don't expect that's intended behavior |
| 17:31.54 | Beladona | it must be a new race, related to them or something |
| 17:31.55 | Wobin_ | okies |
| 17:32.19 | Wobin_ | Iriel|working: Creating a texture with the same name as a preivously created frame rewrites the frame into a texture |
| 17:32.39 | Tem | well, it takes over the global symbol and the internal name |
| 17:32.40 | Wobin_ | (Or at least it seems so to my testing) |
| 17:35.46 | Maldivia | ok, that tennis looks kind of cool :) |
| 17:36.37 | Miravlix | Wobin_: Isn't that normal behavior? |
| 17:36.40 | Tain | So the new Alliance race isn't Angelina Jolie? :( |
| 17:36.49 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | heh |
| 17:36.49 | Miravlix | If you set a framename = something it changes to that. |
| 17:38.54 | Wobin_ | Miravlix: If you try to Create a frame with the same name as a previously created frame, it'll fail silently |
| 17:39.03 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | lol, that tennis is great! |
| 17:39.05 | Miravlix | No |
| 17:39.08 | Miravlix | It doesn't fail |
| 17:39.17 | Miravlix | It creates a no name frame |
| 17:39.23 | Wobin_ | Okay |
| 17:39.24 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: yeah, I'm loving it! |
| 17:39.25 | Wobin_ | yes |
| 17:39.45 | Miravlix | SeaSpellbook is using that to load the xml file multiple times until we get 1.11 and I can createframe gametooltip |
| 17:40.06 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 17:40.23 | Miravlix | I have to hook some onload functions to fix that they are called with this:GetName() = nil |
| 17:40.36 | Maldivia | hmm, so those screenshot of the wow expansion movie... what does it look like... |
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| 17:40.59 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | What's that starting zone?? |
| 17:41.03 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8278/4116784fb.jpg |
| 17:41.05 | Adrine | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/mage.jpg |
| 17:41.25 | Maldivia | it looks like a tiger/panther with those paws |
| 17:42.05 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Draenei have the same legs |
| 17:42.19 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | With the odd bending |
| 17:42.24 | Wobin_ | That looks like a thrasher in the background |
| 17:43.07 | Miravlix | It's hoofs |
| 17:43.22 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Yeah I thought thrasher too |
| 17:43.25 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Hyjal? |
| 17:43.32 | Adrine | Hyjal seems plausable. |
| 17:43.34 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Would explain Eredar is a small way |
| 17:43.42 | Adrine | That's where the big showdown went down |
| 17:43.57 | Tain | What? They're in Hyrule? |
| 17:44.04 | Adrine | And it gives the Alliance a second Kalimdor race. |
| 17:44.04 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :) |
| 17:44.26 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | (so would have Pandaren :( ) |
| 17:44.30 | Miravlix | Where on Kalimdor is there home? |
| 17:44.46 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Pandaren or Eredar? |
| 17:45.03 | Adrine | We don't know. We're guessing Hyjal. |
| 17:45.15 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Eredar was what we were discussing :) |
| 17:45.17 | Miravlix | Pandaren is an Aprils fools joke, can we please lay them to rest! |
| 17:45.23 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *sigh* |
| 17:45.26 | krka|work | they made it into war3 :P |
| 17:45.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | They *WERE* an April Fool's, they are now an official race, okay? |
| 17:45.46 | Tain | You know they'll be in the Warcraft movie! |
| 17:46.05 | Adrine | http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/9518/lockd0mg.png |
| 17:46.07 | Adrine | ... |
| 17:46.39 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | And Official means they're in the RPG books, mentioned in the game, and have lots of lore to back them up. |
| 17:46.46 | Wobin_ | That's the most ridiculous looking thing ever =P |
| 17:46.55 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Er, what in hell is that? |
| 17:47.23 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Female boxer? |
| 17:47.42 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Adrine? |
| 17:47.53 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Wasn't suggesting it was Adrine! |
| 17:48.26 | Adrine | Something I found in association with the new lock sets |
| 17:48.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, it's certainly a scary lock |
| 17:50.33 | Miravlix | Well, it isn't any in game race |
| 17:51.03 | Tain | Oh Jade Empire is coming to the PC. I might have to actually play again. |
| 17:52.09 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 17:52.35 | Wobin_ | Using CreateTexture with an existant name unnames the previously assigned frame object |
| 17:53.01 | Wobin_ | Which isn't very good, really... |
| 17:53.46 | Wobin_ | Since it's doing the opposite of what CreateFrame with a existing name would do |
| 17:53.54 | Miravlix | If you reuse a variable name it gets reasigned |
| 17:54.17 | Wobin_ | except in the case of two CreateFrames |
| 17:55.07 | Wobin_ | FrameA = CreateFrame("Frame", "MyFrameA") FrameB = CreateFrame("Frame", "MyFrameA") |
| 17:55.14 | Wobin_ | will have MyFrameA still pointing to FrameA |
| 17:55.28 | Wobin_ | and FrameB being essentially nameless |
| 17:55.44 | Miravlix | Well, your giving the frame two names |
| 17:55.50 | Miravlix | FrameA == MyFrameA |
| 17:56.01 | Wobin_ | yes, well that's just for clarity |
| 17:56.09 | Wobin_ | since you can use both to reference the frame |
| 17:56.44 | Miravlix | xml doesn't re-use names. |
| 17:57.03 | Miravlix | The second one will get no name, thats true. |
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| 17:57.38 | Wobin_ | And that behaviour is opposite to the CreateFrame, CreateTexture one, where the Frame loses it's name |
| 17:57.48 | Osagasu | oooh |
| 17:58.20 | Osagasu | No cooldown on Pyroblast = win, even if its still only used as an opener. |
| 17:58.47 | Kaso | Where does the default UI get the Item Quality colours from/ is it possible to change em, replacing ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS and/or GetItemQualityColor() didnt work |
| 18:00.34 | Beladona | how did you replace it |
| 18:00.47 | Beladona | or attempt to |
| 18:01.27 | Kaso | i just hooked it and returned my values instead of default one when you pass the index i wanted |
| 18:01.29 | Wobin_ | How would I go about reporting this? Bug forum? |
| 18:03.11 | Tain | Ok, the addon search functionality of the new curse is a little bit of a step backwards. |
| 18:07.27 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | why? |
| 18:07.54 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | nvm, I see what you're saying |
| 18:08.34 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I think the new version is fine though |
| 18:09.14 | Tain | The easy category selections for searches was very nice to have. |
| 18:10.50 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | True, but since addons often overlap addon sections, or aren't in the correct one, it wouldn't always give all results |
| 18:11.03 | Tain | Which is why you had the option. |
| 18:12.38 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :P |
| 18:12.50 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I'm not a fan of the scrolling changelog/description windows |
| 18:13.42 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The start and end of the windows aren't defined enough for me (netcurse, this is for you ;) |
| 18:18.05 | Cide | well, searching for "raidassist" did not bring up my own mod |
| 18:19.21 | wereHamster | does anyone know is there is a subversion plugin for vs.net ? |
| 18:19.29 | netcurse | Tain you can search with google also |
| 18:19.35 | netcurse | if you want the gold search |
| 18:19.44 | netcurse | er |
| 18:19.46 | netcurse | old :p |
| 18:20.13 | Tain | Well that's not the same thing. |
| 18:20.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | lol |
| 18:20.27 | JoshBorke | quick question: anyone know of a mod that makes it easy to buff groups in raids, and also keeps timers for the groups you buff? |
| 18:20.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | JoshBorke, what class? |
| 18:20.39 | netcurse | we ll redo the old search it seems a lot of ppl can t get to use the new one anyway :p |
| 18:20.44 | JoshBorke | priest or druid or mage |
| 18:20.54 | Adrine | CTRaid does that pretty decently... |
| 18:20.57 | Tain | I do think there may be something odd going on with the search though, like Cide said searching for something you know is there doesn't always turn it up. |
| 18:21.10 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I know Paladin Assistant is being rewritten for more classes (priests and druids esp) |
| 18:21.22 | JoshBorke | ah, it's being rewritten? that's cool |
| 18:21.32 | JoshBorke | i'm thikning of rewriting my mod to support all classes also |
| 18:21.32 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's mostly done atm |
| 18:21.43 | netcurse | Kirkburn|Wiggle i ll add this to the to do list to make it more visiable |
| 18:21.50 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Thanks :) |
| 18:22.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Just a line across at the bottom would help |
| 18:22.09 | netcurse | Agreed |
| 18:22.29 | JoshBorke | what would be a good name for something that provides that functionality? |
| 18:22.40 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :) JoshBorke, I think they're gonna rename it Panza, but I'm not sure |
| 18:22.52 | JoshBorke | panza? now that's interesting, lol |
| 18:22.57 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | No idea ... er, UberBufferMod |
| 18:23.05 | JoshBorke | winner! |
| 18:23.17 | Adrine | TurtleWax |
| 18:23.22 | Adrine | So you can buff your raid to a high shine. |
| 18:23.37 | Tain | netcurse: Just as an example, searching for 'gymnast' does not turn up the Gymnast Tooltips addon |
| 18:24.17 | netcurse | If you use the google included search it will but yes |
| 18:24.21 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Whoever did the image design for CG did an *excellent* job |
| 18:24.23 | netcurse | this search is to complicated |
| 18:24.41 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The drop down list is cool |
| 18:25.04 | netcurse | and myself i understood nothing of http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/search.html |
| 18:25.07 | netcurse | lol |
| 18:26.15 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | lol, that wasn't written well |
| 18:27.14 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | "in each row that is returned." <-- that part isn't needed at all |
| 18:27.43 | JoshBorke | oh, adrine |
| 18:27.50 | JoshBorke | there's some sort of graphical problem with healcap |
| 18:28.04 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Calling each result a 'row' just makes it more confusing |
| 18:28.18 | Adrine | JoshBorke: Elaborate? |
| 18:28.22 | Adrine | (Not that I actually work on it >_>) |
| 18:29.07 | JoshBorke | http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com:90/gallery/HealCap |
| 18:29.15 | JoshBorke | is the graphical glitch |
| 18:30.22 | Adrine | I'm not seeting what it is... |
| 18:30.36 | Adrine | The tooltip position? |
| 18:30.46 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 18:30.55 | Adrine | Ooh |
| 18:30.56 | Adrine | I see |
| 18:30.58 | Adrine | The bar position |
| 18:31.03 | Adrine | Yeah, I've run into that from time to time |
| 18:31.04 | JoshBorke | the bar position, yea |
| 18:31.08 | Adrine | Once you get data it corrects itself |
| 18:31.12 | Adrine | But yeah, I need to track that down |
| 18:31.28 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | About this piccie ... is it me or is there a giant pink crystal in the background? http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4116784fb.jpg |
| 18:31.30 | JoshBorke | ooo, now it's off in the Y coordinate too |
| 18:31.48 | Adrine | I don't think that's a crystal, personally |
| 18:31.54 | JoshBorke | it's a moon beam i think |
| 18:31.56 | Adrine | That looks a LOT like Hyjal though. |
| 18:31.57 | JoshBorke | or some sort of light |
| 18:31.59 | Adrine | A whole lot. |
| 18:32.06 | Adrine | Except it seems darkish |
| 18:32.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I'm gonna have a look at hyjal to see if there's anything like it |
| 18:34.25 | Adrine | Well, I'm not sure we can even trust that |
| 18:34.34 | Adrine | They completely reworked southern Silithus right before they released AQ |
| 18:34.46 | Adrine | I flew through there in the map viewer and modern day AQ is nothing like what I saw. |
| 18:35.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Hmm, trees aren't the same |
| 18:35.48 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, it's def not the current Hyjal |
| 18:35.48 | JoshBorke | what event gets fired when you jump/hit esc while casting a spell? |
| 18:36.18 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | SPELL_INTERRUPTED at a guess |
| 18:36.41 | Industrial | Ok im back |
| 18:36.43 | Industrial | any news? |
| 18:36.49 | Industrial | are they the dark trolls? |
| 18:36.56 | Industrial | (i thought they would be dark trolls) |
| 18:36.57 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4116784fb.jpg |
| 18:37.02 | Adrine | Looks like Eredar. |
| 18:37.22 | Kirov | Eredar are demons though, which is weird |
| 18:37.28 | Kirov | They're also super super evil. |
| 18:37.36 | Adrine | Well |
| 18:37.41 | Adrine | Here are my copy-pasted thoughts |
| 18:37.43 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5088/4116772yv.jpg |
| 18:37.50 | Adrine | The Eredar caste system is extremely harsh. The lesser Eredar are pond scum, and one's standing in the system is tied to one's magical ability. The lesser Eredar could be in line with PCs in terms of magical power. The Blood Elves trap demons in crystals and drain them of their powers, making the Eredar a perfect foil to them, and I don't think the lesser Eredar can rely on the greater Eredar to protect their interests. |
| 18:37.52 | Adrine | If a subfaction of Eredar were to split from the primary Eredar and seek protection with the Alliance from the Blood Elves, even the Night Elves might be swayed - on one hand, you have the relatives of ancient enemies. On the other, you have your own kinsmen who have betrayed you and are now sworn enemies. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, in this case. |
| 18:37.55 | Adrine | Blizzard also has a long history of breaking good/evil stereotypes. The Eredar we know about are stupidly evil, but perhaps not all of them are. I think it's entirely plausable that they'll spin the lore so as to include not only an ugly race, but an "evil" race in the Alliance. |
| 18:37.59 | Adrine | The Eredar fit both the Burning Crusade and the Outland themes to a T. |
| 18:38.04 | Adrine | Finally, it completely fits the "Whoa, wtf?" reaction we were promised. :D |
| 18:38.17 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | (I posted a second link above, Industrial) |
| 18:38.44 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | ooh |
| 18:38.59 | JoshBorke | hrm, both spellcast_stop and spellcast_interrupted get fired :-( |
| 18:39.10 | Adrine | Blizzard is very big on approaching "evil" races from a new perspective. |
| 18:39.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | "The Eredar, an insidious race of devilish sorcerers, used their warlock magics to invade and enslave a number of worlds. The indigenous races of those worlds were mutated by the Eredar's malevolent powers and turned into demons themselves. Though Sargeras's nearly limitless powers were more than enough to defeat the vile Eredar, he was greatly troubled by the creatures' corruption and all-consuming evil. Incapable of fathoming such depravity |
| 18:39.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | , the great Titan began to slip into a brooding depression. Despite his growing unease, Sargeras rid the universe of the warlocks by trapping them within a corner of the Twisting Nether." |
| 18:39.25 | Wobin_ | Woohoo REDEMPTION |
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| 18:39.38 | Adrine | If there's a theme in WoW, it is that the "good" races aren't as good as they think we are, and the "bad" races maybe have some redeeming factors. |
| 18:39.47 | Wobin_ | It's nice, that |
| 18:40.00 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | JoshBorke, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=375491&p=1&tmp=1#post375491 |
| 18:40.07 | Adrine | " The indigenous races of those worlds were mutated by the Eredar's malevolent powers and turned into demons themselves." - that could be Draenei, as well. |
| 18:40.11 | JoshBorke | ( Kirkburn|Wiggle ): thanks |
| 18:40.56 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, it'll be interesting to see the official line, whatever they are :) |
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| 18:43.15 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, they're not deleting race threads now |
| 18:43.56 | Beladona | personally I don't consider the Eredar to be an "ugly" race |
| 18:43.59 | Beladona | different sure |
| 18:44.08 | Adrine | They aren't pretty. |
| 18:44.15 | Adrine | Which isn't the same as ugly. |
| 18:44.23 | Adrine | But people won't play them because of the "I can be a pretty princess" factor. |
| 18:44.26 | Beladona | I dunno, one of those screenies I saw, I thought they looked pretty damn hot |
| 18:44.40 | Adrine | Well, I think they'll appeal to a lot of poeple |
| 18:44.41 | Adrine | people* |
| 18:44.47 | Beladona | but I get what you mean |
| 18:44.51 | Adrine | But likely a different audience than your typical female nelf hunter. |
| 18:45.18 | Beladona | If that is the race, it means I am going to have a hard time deciding between Eredar and Blood Elf |
| 18:45.27 | Beladona | I will probably go Eredar |
| 18:45.38 | Beladona | Blood Elf is too much like Night Elf =\ |
| 18:46.20 | Adrine | It gives the horde a pretty princess "good" race. |
| 18:46.31 | Adrine | Whereas the Alliance get a not-pretty "evil" race. |
| 18:46.54 | Wobin_ | I don't really want to try the Blood elves unless they get really cool racials |
| 18:47.06 | Wobin_ | Otherwise it'll be like Bel said, far too Nightelfy |
| 18:47.21 | Adrine | The blood elves get amazing racials |
| 18:51.25 | Maldivia | shaman talents! |
| 18:51.29 | Osagasu | http://www.blizzard.com/press/060509.shtml *whimper* a cold chill just ran up my spine. now I see why. |
| 18:51.32 | Beladona | I am sure they get benefits to magical abilities |
| 18:52.28 | Beladona | lets hope it isn't another "DnD" movie |
| 18:52.29 | Maldivia | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/shaman2/talents.html - if anyone care/hadn't noticed |
| 18:52.53 | Osagasu | Oh, its worthy to note that Blizzard has said they don't see their choice for Alliance as an "ugly" race, but a "cool" race. |
| 18:53.21 | Wobin_ | Maldivia: It may make me want to play my shammy again |
| 18:53.36 | Wobin_ | Maldivia: There are no huge earthshattering changes.. but some nice rebalancing |
| 18:53.52 | Maldivia | Wobin_: never played a shaman (past level 20), so don't really know what's good or bad |
| 18:54.17 | Wobin_ | They're a lot of fun... |
| 18:54.24 | Osagasu | Beladona, I see the problem with the DnD movie as that is was built without any regard for DnD, and just took the name and the races. |
| 18:54.24 | Wobin_ | The only one I've levelled faster on is rogue |
| 18:54.32 | Wobin_ | (except I ran into a rut at 40) |
| 18:54.34 | Osagasu | It wasn't a Greyhawk movie, or a FR movie, or a DL movie |
| 18:55.46 | Osagasu | They went for the "ooh, big fire breathing lizards and people with shiny balls of light" approach. |
| 18:59.52 | Maldivia | ack... Storm Reach... more range for lightning spells... |
| 19:00.37 | Tem | oh joy |
| 19:00.56 | Tem | Earthbind has a bigger range |
| 19:01.04 | Tem | gg WSG |
| 19:01.14 | Tem | !! |
| 19:01.24 | Tem | Maldivia: check out that Elemental Master talent |
| 19:01.33 | Tem | that should *so* have been one of our 31 pointers |
| 19:01.49 | Maldivia | Tem: yeah, I noticed it... |
| 19:02.08 | Tem | I'm jealous |
| 19:02.09 | Maldivia | old Combustion and Inner Focus combined.... |
| 19:02.19 | Tem | with a shorter cooldown |
| 19:02.24 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 19:02.35 | Wobin_ | can you imagine a 100% crit chain lighting? |
| 19:02.59 | Tem | "Shaman gains Unstable Power" |
| 19:03.09 | Tem | "Shaman gains Power Infusion" |
| 19:03.16 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 19:03.18 | Tem | "Shaman gains Elemental Mastery" |
| 19:03.22 | Wobin_ | "Shaman acheives Godhood" |
| 19:03.28 | Tem | "Shaman one shots you" |
| 19:03.36 | Tem | "... and the rest of your party" |
| 19:03.54 | Wobin_ | What's Unstable Power? |
| 19:03.59 | Tem | ZHC |
| 19:04.04 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 19:04.24 | Tem | when I see shamen running around with Staff of the Shadow Flame, I get scared |
| 19:04.28 | Tem | real scared |
| 19:04.48 | Tem | (or would it be "Shamans") |
| 19:04.48 | Wobin_ | Shaman |
| 19:04.52 | Wobin_ | singular same as plural |
| 19:04.54 | Wobin_ | like Sheep. |
| 19:05.47 | Tem | Maldivia: At least it's not a combo of PoM and old Combustion |
| 19:07.05 | JoshBorke | ( ckknight ): are you here? |
| 19:09.06 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The movie is official!!! |
| 19:09.11 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=8220700&p=1&tmp=1#post8220700 |
| 19:09.14 | Osagasu | We know kirk |
| 19:09.15 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | And LIVE ACTION |
| 19:09.15 | Osagasu | we know |
| 19:09.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :P |
| 19:09.53 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Sorry, you link was different :) |
| 19:10.02 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *your |
| 19:10.21 | Osagasu | Live action is what ruined it for me. I'm all for a Warcraft movie, but live action means they can't make the world as colorful as it was meant |
| 19:10.59 | Maldivia | shaman... shamans... as long as it's not shemen... |
| 19:11.00 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I always get so overexcited :) Yeah, I would have preferred CG ... but if you look at LotR, it's possible |
| 19:11.20 | Osagasu | LOTR was meant to be a realistic world. |
| 19:12.51 | Maldivia | hmm, Healing Way... at least shaman in every raid will need to have that, if they are healers... |
| 19:13.24 | Maldivia | but still no Tier 3 armor/weapon on wow-us... |
| 19:13.34 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Hmm, true about LotR ... but it shows that you make a fantasy film in the same vein without it looking stupid |
| 19:13.48 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | s/you/you can/ |
| 19:15.23 | krka | the main in warcraft are too long and with too many characters to make into a movie |
| 19:15.31 | krka | s/main/main plots/ |
| 19:16.57 | Maldivia | ack... Shamans got Clearcasting aswell... |
| 19:17.05 | Osagasu | Personally I'd love to see Jaina, Kael, and Arthas' history, but I'm afraid it would become a teenie-bop movie. |
| 19:17.12 | Osagasu | shamans have HAD clearcasting |
| 19:17.16 | Maldivia | ohh... |
| 19:17.28 | Maldivia | always? |
| 19:17.40 | Osagasu | Yep. go look at the old trees. |
| 19:17.47 | Osagasu | Its in about the same spot, I think |
| 19:18.02 | Maldivia | hmm, ok... just saw on the shaman forum someone talking about it, as if it was new... |
| 19:18.20 | Kirov | Is their tier 3 stuff on the korean site someplace? |
| 19:19.02 | Beladona | wonder what the new movie will be called |
| 19:19.07 | Beladona | Warcraft: The Balanding |
| 19:19.11 | Beladona | Balancing |
| 19:20.04 | Maldivia | Kirov, on the chinese... haven't found it on korean or taiwan sites |
| 19:20.25 | Maldivia | Kirov, but then again, I'm more or less searching in the blind on those sites :) |
| 19:20.25 | Kirov | link? |
| 19:20.34 | Maldivia | www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/ |
| 19:21.20 | Maldivia | hmm... the info is ... gone... |
| 19:21.54 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Aww |
| 19:22.03 | Maldivia | that's just mean! |
| 19:22.09 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Keyrings ... http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/key.htm |
| 19:22.13 | Osagasu | Mal: the talent has been improved somewhat |
| 19:22.17 | Osagasu | I think |
| 19:22.40 | Maldivia | hmm, ok |
| 19:22.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Formulae! http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/formula.htm |
| 19:22.55 | Maldivia | ok, not all of it is gone :) |
| 19:23.07 | Maldivia | I still love the keyrings, and the looks of them |
| 19:23.21 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | More nax stuff ... http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/infall.htm |
| 19:23.36 | Maldivia | http://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/weapon.htm -- weapons... with the "Nah nah, you have to wait" message |
| 19:23.36 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Rest is still locked |
| 19:24.07 | Osagasu | wait |
| 19:24.12 | Osagasu | is that outside IF? |
| 19:24.18 | Maldivia | yes! |
| 19:24.24 | Osagasu | Will the instance move? |
| 19:24.26 | Osagasu | o.O |
| 19:24.58 | Maldivia | *grumble* why do they have to make the text as images... I hate that |
| 19:25.13 | Osagasu | to prevent us from seeing it |
| 19:25.18 | Wobin_ | Maldivia: It makes translating so much more difficult =P |
| 19:25.25 | Maldivia | exactly! |
| 19:25.26 | Wobin_ | I have issues reading characters that small =P |
| 19:28.01 | Wobin_ | hm. I can check whether a function exists by using if(MyObject["functiontocheck"]) then blah end |
| 19:28.02 | Wobin_ | right? |
| 19:28.19 | Iriel|working | yes |
| 19:28.21 | Iriel|working | or better still |
| 19:28.33 | Iriel|working | if (type(MyObject["functiontocheck"]) == "function") |
| 19:28.45 | Wobin_ | okies |
| 19:29.09 | wereHamster | Iriel|working: or type() == table since you can 'call' a table, too ;) |
| 19:30.02 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Osagasu, the vid the gamespy previewed showed a ziggurat outside IF |
| 19:30.09 | Iriel|working | Well, you'd need to check it had a metatable thern |
| 19:30.22 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Part of the Scourge Invasion event |
| 19:30.28 | Iriel|working | That would start to get a bit tricky |
| 19:30.49 | Wobin_ | No worries, Irel, I'm working with a very specific API function =) |
| 19:31.06 | Wobin_ | To clear a parent of a uiobject, do I set it to ""? |
| 19:31.14 | Wobin_ | Cause setting it to nil causes errors |
| 19:32.05 | Maldivia | doesn't frame:SetParent(nil) work? |
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| 19:32.25 | Maldivia | ... always worked for me |
| 19:32.29 | Wobin_ | really? |
| 19:32.33 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 19:32.39 | Wobin_ | oh I'm dealing with a texture |
| 19:32.58 | Maldivia | ohh... |
| 19:33.02 | Wobin_ | But that shouldn't make a difference |
| 19:33.19 | Maldivia | textures need to have a parent-frame... if I'm not mistaken |
| 19:33.21 | Wobin_ | Since the actual setparent is a function of Layoutframe |
| 19:33.29 | Iriel|working | Textures have to have a parent |
| 19:33.31 | Maldivia | due to the way the UI is rendered |
| 19:33.32 | Iriel|working | they are NOT FRAMES |
| 19:33.34 | Iriel|working | they are REGIONS |
| 19:33.36 | Wobin_ | hm. okay, I'll reparent it to the UI |
| 19:33.38 | Iriel|working | they belong to a frame |
| 19:36.33 | Iriel|working | Why not create a 'holding frame' for abandoned textures |
| 19:36.41 | Iriel|working | And then make the frame hidden |
| 19:38.17 | JoshBorke | is there a tutorial on adding color to messages? |
| 19:38.19 | Wobin_ | Aye |
| 19:38.24 | Wobin_ | That's a way of doing it |
| 19:38.34 | Wobin_ | TrashCan =) RecycleBin =P |
| 19:38.44 | Iriel|working | Hopefully the latter 8-) |
| 19:38.56 | Iriel|working | FreeRegionFrame |
| 19:40.24 | Cide | JoshBorke: |cAARRGGBBtext|r |
| 19:40.40 | Cide | AA is alpha and usually doesn't matter, as far as I know |
| 19:40.48 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Sounds like Cide just got shot .... AARRRGGG |
| 19:40.58 | Cide | lies :P |
| 19:41.05 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Just stabbed? |
| 19:41.29 | Maldivia | or "\124cAARRGGBBtext\124r", if you want to text from the chat editbox |
| 19:41.37 | Maldivia | test* |
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| 19:51.07 | krka | hmm |
| 19:51.18 | krka | buttons inside scrollframes -> buggy graphics |
| 19:54.07 | JoshBorke | ( Cide ): thanks |
| 19:58.36 | Miravlix | Whats with lua for loops, they are more like repeat untils |
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| 20:00.23 | krka | the parameters are evaluated only once |
| 20:00.31 | Iriel|working | Lua for loops are for looops (but iterators can be confusing) |
| 20:00.33 | krka | which is a good thing, imo |
| 20:00.50 | krka | for shouldn't have conditions, that's for while |
| 20:00.56 | krka | for should have intervals or iterators |
| 20:02.06 | krka | local x = 10 local function f() return x end |
| 20:02.06 | krka | local tmp |
| 20:02.06 | krka | for i = 1, f() do x = 20 tmp = i end |
| 20:02.06 | krka | DevTools_Dump(tmp) |
| 20:02.41 | krka | what does it print? |
| 20:03.05 | Shouryuu | rawr |
| 20:03.10 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 20:03.13 | Tain | It prints rawr? |
| 20:03.23 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 20:03.39 | krka | that would explain a lot.. |
| 20:03.57 | Miravlix | Hmm, according to the Lua documentation, for loops isn't supposed to work the way it does |
| 20:04.10 | Tain | for i = 1, rawr do |
| 20:04.34 | Shouryuu | huggleGryphen() |
| 20:04.56 | Miravlix | It's not supposed to evaluate block if the for fails. :/ |
| 20:04.58 | krka | which version? |
| 20:05.11 | krka | there are 3 fors, i think |
| 20:05.14 | Miravlix | for I = 1, 1, 1, do block end |
| 20:05.18 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Adrine (n=Adrine@208.187.119.42) |
| 20:05.20 | Miravlix | 5.0 |
| 20:05.54 | Miravlix | The block isn't supposed to get executed once. |
| 20:06.01 | krka | can you provide a test case where it doesn't do as the manual says? |
| 20:06.11 | Tain | Why isn't it supposed to execute? |
| 20:06.33 | krka | that will run block with l = 1 |
| 20:07.04 | Miravlix | because the for doesn't evaluate to true |
| 20:07.24 | krka | for doesn't evaluate to anything |
| 20:07.47 | Tain | I think there's differences in understanding, I'd always expect that loop to execute once. |
| 20:07.49 | Maldivia | krka: the end and increment value in the for loop is only evaluated once in the beginning |
| 20:08.10 | Shouryuu | Tain Me too, but I'm no expert... |
| 20:08.15 | Wobin_ | GetChildren() should return textures and such? |
| 20:08.33 | krka | Maldivia, i know |
| 20:08.38 | Miravlix | for i = 1, 1, do is like do local var, _limit, _step = tonumber(e1), tonumber(e2), tonumber(3) if not ( var and _limit and step) then error() end while (_step>0 and var<=_limit) or (_step<=0 and var>=_limit ) do block var = var + _step end end |
| 20:08.51 | Miravlix | But thats not how it works |
| 20:09.30 | Miravlix | it's more like a repat block until (_step>0 and var<=_limit) or (_step<=0 and var>=_limit) |
| 20:09.37 | Miravlix | repeat, even |
| 20:10.15 | Tain | Well not excatly. It doesn't automatically execute the loop no matter what. |
| 20:10.17 | krka | while (1 > 0 and 1 <= 1) or (1 <=0 and 1>= 1) is true |
| 20:10.30 | krka | i don't see why think it's doing it wrong |
| 20:10.55 | Wobin_ | Iriel|working: GetChildren() on a frame should return all textures, yeah? |
| 20:11.12 | Maldivia | Wobin_: isn't that what GetRegions() is for ? |
| 20:11.22 | Wobin_ | hm, thanks =) |
| 20:11.29 | Maldivia | not sure... just a suggestion |
| 20:12.24 | Wobin_ | Thassit |
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| 20:15.39 | Shouryuu | w00t a WoW movie |
| 20:15.41 | Miravlix | Ugh, it's not greater than, it's equal or greater than |
| 20:15.43 | *** join/#wowi-lounge krka (i=krka@c80-216-103-22.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 20:15.51 | Shouryuu | I so not am going to see that |
| 20:15.54 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | What a fun day it's being ... oh and GTA4 will be on the Xbox 360 |
| 20:16.13 | Shouryuu | http://www.blizzard.com/press/060509.shtml |
| 20:16.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Aww Shouryuu, so negative |
| 20:16.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | You must have seen the Eredar/Draenei/unknown screenshots? |
| 20:16.53 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 20:17.02 | Maldivia | Shouryuu: hehe, I actually haven't read the press statement yet, even though it's been linked to me 5 or 6 times now :) |
| 20:17.15 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | No much info really |
| 20:17.19 | Shouryuu | Well it was speculation untill now :P |
| 20:17.38 | Maldivia | well, the above exact link have been pasted to me 6 times :) |
| 20:17.41 | Shouryuu | Kirkburn|Wiggle Yeah, and I don't want to know the new alliance race! I want it to be a suprise! |
| 20:17.48 | Shouryuu | Maldivia Ah :P |
| 20:17.50 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | lol |
| 20:18.18 | Tain | The new race is Stormwind Orphans |
| 20:18.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Shouryuu, if you don't want to know the alliance race ... look away now. And don't turn back until Xmas |
| 20:18.30 | Shouryuu | If it's the animation quality of FFVII I will take a look, otherwise... meh |
| 20:18.34 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | No, it's Mr Wiggles! =) |
| 20:18.39 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Live-action |
| 20:18.59 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | No doubt ably assisted by lots of CG |
| 20:19.06 | Shouryuu | Kirkburn|Wiggle No I meant, I don't want to learn the new alliance race before blizzard tells us... It's going to ruin the surprise! |
| 20:19.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Sure you did |
| 20:19.28 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 20:20.04 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Wii controller ... http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/img_con/photo_classic.jpg |
| 20:20.37 | Maldivia | ohh, so there's a classic controller for it aswlel |
| 20:20.51 | Shouryuu | Wii stands for? |
| 20:21.01 | Maldivia | Wii = Nintendo Revolution |
| 20:21.11 | Maldivia | Wii is the official name |
| 20:21.15 | Shouryuu | Ahhh |
| 20:21.21 | Shouryuu | because that made no sens :P |
| 20:21.41 | Tain | Neither does the name at all. |
| 20:21.48 | Maldivia | I like it |
| 20:22.10 | Maldivia | and they thanked the 2 persons who gave the name positive critique on the nintendo pres conference... |
| 20:22.15 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Me too |
| 20:22.19 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It must be us two :) |
| 20:22.29 | Maldivia | we're famous! |
| 20:22.41 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 20:22.43 | Maldivia | sorry... wii're famous |
| 20:22.49 | Shouryuu | ... :P |
| 20:22.50 | Tem | *facepalm* |
| 20:22.56 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 20:23.04 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *fistface* |
| 20:23.11 | Shouryuu | anyone got news from that Joystick guy? |
| 20:23.28 | Maldivia | I like the name... that doesn't mean I can't make fun of it anyway... :) |
| 20:23.29 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Nope |
| 20:23.36 | Osagasu | What screenshots? >.> |
| 20:23.38 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I should email him ... |
| 20:23.39 | Maldivia | anyone watched the MS conference |
| 20:23.51 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Seen the Joystiq report |
| 20:23.58 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | (not the same as joystick) |
| 20:29.45 | Shouryuu | I've had one of the worst history subjects ever today |
| 20:29.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Looks good, lots of integration betweent he Xbox and Vista |
| 20:29.55 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The future? |
| 20:30.10 | Shouryuu | Consumers and consumation from 1945 to the seventies in countries of liberal and social market |
| 20:30.13 | Shouryuu | woohoooo |
| 20:30.32 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :D |
| 20:32.23 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Thrashing it out on the lore forums, we seem to have come to a reasonable agreement that Eredar are possible, if unlikely |
| 20:33.03 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 20:34.43 | Osagasu | HAHAHAHA |
| 20:34.49 | Osagasu | wooooot, new lemmings game |
| 20:34.59 | snurre | givf! |
| 20:35.09 | Osagasu | for PSP though. |
| 20:35.26 | snurre | meh, suckage |
| 20:36.30 | Tain | Shouryuu: Blame it all on the dirty hippies |
| 20:37.29 | Shouryuu | But, but... the hippies are my friends! |
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| 20:39.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Ahahaah http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cdbreaker0177ms.jpg |
| 20:40.11 | Shouryuu | looolll |
| 20:43.06 | KarlKFI | moo |
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| 20:47.33 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Halo 3 trailer ... http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=33150 |
| 20:48.18 | Osagasu | E3 is like ghristmas for geeks, only better |
| 20:48.21 | Osagasu | *christmas |
| 20:49.30 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 20:49.59 | Maldivia | geekmas... |
| 20:50.12 | GenNMX|Thrae | HP Laserjet 4 for only $60 w/ cartridge. Not bad. |
| 20:50.30 | Osagasu | I'm interested in finding out exactly what the race is. I really don't think its Eredar, because they're bloody-f'ing huge |
| 20:50.38 | GenNMX|Thrae | No more 150 pages per inkjet cartridge anymore! |
| 20:50.42 | Kaso | Kirkburn|Wiggle whats that and where from? the Set picture |
| 20:50.44 | Maldivia | hmm... so it cheaper to buy a new printer than buy a new cardridge for it... |
| 20:50.49 | KarlKFI | lol, love how the wmv is the large and the mov is small |
| 20:51.03 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Kaso, random thread link |
| 20:51.09 | GenNMX|Thrae | Maldivia: What are you talking about? |
| 20:51.13 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | KarlKFI, sneaky, eh? :) |
| 20:51.24 | KarlKFI | bastards, lol |
| 20:51.27 | Iriel|working | Often the 'free cartridge' has very little ink |
| 20:51.41 | Kaso | darnit |
| 20:51.45 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Printer manufacturers make their money of cartirdges |
| 20:51.58 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *catridges ... or whatever |
| 20:52.11 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *ink thingies |
| 20:52.12 | GenNMX|Thrae | Iriel|working: This is an old HP Laserjet 4. It does about 1000 pages per cartridge, and can only do black & white, 12pmm. |
| 20:52.27 | GenNMX|Thrae | The cartridge was pretty much full when they gave it to me, the print itself is used. |
| 20:52.42 | Iriel|working | Oh, I see, yes indeed, not bad at all |
| 20:52.48 | Iriel|working | Does it have the PostScript module installed? |
| 20:53.22 | GenNMX|Thrae | Well, I'm connecting to my Linux server. |
| 20:54.04 | Iriel|working | On-printer PS beats the crap out of ghostscript (Unless you've figured out some excellent trick with fonts) |
| 20:54.29 | GenNMX|Thrae | We'll see how well it prints in Linux, I'm installing everything now. |
| 20:55.04 | GenNMX|Thrae | At the very least it should still beat the crap out of my HP psc 2110xi all-in-one ;) |
| 21:02.07 | Beladona | night |
| 21:02.17 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | More pictures! http://img506.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11472062531519sa.jpg |
| 21:02.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | night Beladona |
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| 21:02.33 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11472063237704hs.jpg |
| 21:02.39 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11472063992591yr.jpg |
| 21:03.12 | MentalPower | does anyone have tier3 set pictures? |
| 21:03.32 | Beladona | those are nice pics |
| 21:04.18 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Beladona (n=sluster@josephpartners.com) |
| 21:06.55 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, those are definately Eredar ... they're just too similar to Archimonde |
| 21:08.01 | Wobin_ | What function do I call incode to use Iriel's dump function? |
| 21:08.20 | Cide | DevTools_Dump |
| 21:08.24 | Wobin_ | Ta |
| 21:08.42 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I bet Cair hasn't gone at all and is just laughing at me like a maniac |
| 21:10.15 | KarlKFI | odd... my wowwont open |
| 21:11.25 | KarlKFI | why look, blizz put the movie announcement on their home page.. |
| 21:13.02 | KarlKFI | ah ok, makers of Batman Begins |
| 21:13.14 | KarlKFI | that was a good movie.. |
| 21:13.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Adrine (n=Adrine@208.187.119.42) |
| 21:13.39 | Adrine | Did you all see this? |
| 21:13.40 | Adrine | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/11472062531519sa1om.jpg |
| 21:13.43 | Adrine | Eredar paladin. |
| 21:13.45 | Adrine | So not even joking. |
| 21:13.59 | KarlKFI | wow... every post on the mac tech forum has been blue'd |
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| 21:14.47 | GenNMX|Thrae | Blood Elf Shaman :D |
| 21:14.58 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:15.21 | Adrine | Horde already has 3 shaman classes |
| 21:15.24 | Adrine | Alliance has 2 paladins |
| 21:15.27 | Adrine | So I guess it makes sense. |
| 21:15.36 | clad|gym | Not as Eredar it doesn't. |
| 21:15.43 | clad|gym | with the Broken it can make sense. |
| 21:15.46 | Adrine | Unless they're some faction of "good"eredar. |
| 21:15.56 | Adrine | Or converted, or something. |
| 21:16.00 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Adrine, I posted it 15 mins earlier ;) |
| 21:16.01 | GenNMX|Thrae | Nah, they're not going to mess with the ratio. The ratio of class to race possibilities on each side is equal. |
| 21:16.03 | clad|gym | heheh it'll be fun either way =) |
| 21:16.12 | clad|gym | bbl |
| 21:16.24 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Adrine, there was also http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11472063992591yr.jpg |
| 21:16.25 | krka | is the alliance race confirmed now? |
| 21:16.28 | Adrine | Darn you, Kirkburn|Wiggle! |
| 21:16.33 | Wobin_ | except for hunters |
| 21:16.33 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | no krka |
| 21:16.45 | GenNMX|Thrae | krka: Yes, it has been confirmed to be Leper Gnomes. |
| 21:16.45 | Wobin_ | oh wait |
| 21:16.50 | Wobin_ | no hunters is balanced |
| 21:17.11 | Adrine | That one looks a lot more like they could be Draenei, Kirk. |
| 21:17.17 | Adrine | Though the face is still distinctly Eredar |
| 21:17.26 | GenNMX|Thrae | Their race ability is "Limb Off", where they lose all their limbs to instantly escape any snare! |
| 21:17.36 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Shape of the head, Adrine |
| 21:17.41 | Adrine | Right |
| 21:17.49 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I'd say the pointy head is much more Eredar |
| 21:18.03 | Adrine | Yeah. |
| 21:18.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | But you already said that, pretty much :P |
| 21:18.19 | Adrine | The draenei heads - at least what we've seen from the Broken and the Lost Ones - are droopy and don't have noses. |
| 21:18.30 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | mmm |
| 21:18.36 | GenNMX|Thrae | Nice image -- it's pinecone head!\ |
| 21:18.39 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, it's definately got the HUH!? factor |
| 21:20.03 | Adrine | Ooh |
| 21:20.08 | Adrine | That last image CAN'T be Draenei |
| 21:20.15 | Adrine | The Draenei have 2 large fingers and a thumb. |
| 21:20.22 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | True! |
| 21:20.26 | Adrine | That mage/lock has 4 slender fingers + thumb |
| 21:21.24 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Yup Draenei only have 2 fingers and a thumb |
| 21:21.38 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well spotted :) |
| 21:22.08 | Adrine | Unless they're going to call these guys some seriously different form of Draenei, I'm going with an Eredar root. |
| 21:22.51 | krka | i've never heard of eredar before |
| 21:22.56 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Archimonde |
| 21:22.57 | krka | but i am not a lore expert i guess |
| 21:23.05 | Adrine | Eredar are the super bad sorcerer demons from the Twisting Nether |
| 21:23.08 | krka | oh |
| 21:23.23 | Adrine | They were responsible for Sargeras' corruption and are the backbone of the Burning Crusade. |
| 21:23.28 | krka | aren't those way too powerful compared to the current playables? |
| 21:23.30 | Adrine | Which is why so many people are wtf over it. |
| 21:23.32 | Adrine | Well -- |
| 21:23.36 | Adrine | The ones we've seen are |
| 21:23.42 | krka | also, why'd they join the alliance? O_o |
| 21:23.46 | Adrine | The Eredar caste system is based on one's magical abilitiy |
| 21:24.05 | Adrine | IF there are lesser Eredar with player-level magical abilities, I can see them being spun that way for balance. |
| 21:24.16 | KarlKFI | so, um.. there's no mac repair utility? |
| 21:24.18 | GenNMX|Thrae | Why do people think it will be the Eredar? Just from that image? |
| 21:24.20 | Adrine | I don't think so, KarlKFI |
| 21:24.31 | Adrine | From the...4 images that have surfaced, GenNMX|Thrae |
| 21:24.45 | Adrine | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/eredar1.jpg |
| 21:24.48 | Adrine | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/eredar2.jpg |
| 21:25.00 | Adrine | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/11472062531519sa1om.jpg |
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| 21:25.12 | Adrine | Grr. |
| 21:25.14 | Adrine | But yeah. |
| 21:25.16 | Adrine | And then the last one. |
| 21:26.38 | GenNMX|Thrae | Well, the expansion is about the Burning Legion, so the images could be about NPCs, not PCs. |
| 21:27.03 | Adrine | Possible, but I'm thinking unlikely at this point. |
| 21:27.08 | Adrine | Why have an Eredar in paladin armor? |
| 21:27.13 | Adrine | I mean. That's a complete WTF. |
| 21:27.29 | KarlKFI | why not just wait till they tell us |
| 21:27.38 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | never! |
| 21:27.45 | Adrine | Because speculation is fun :) |
| 21:27.57 | GenNMX|Thrae | Could be a test model, the programmers like the paladin armour and have used it before in tests (along with the PvP sets) |
| 21:28.12 | Adrine | Explain the book on the chain and the hammer then. :P |
| 21:28.21 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's art, not a screenshot |
| 21:28.25 | Adrine | Wing shoulders + spellbook on chain + hammer = paladin :P |
| 21:28.27 | Shouryuu | indeed |
| 21:28.35 | Shouryuu | it's art! |
| 21:28.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's also opposite a Blood Elf |
| 21:28.39 | Adrine | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/warcraft_samwise062c.html#gallery |
| 21:28.48 | Adrine | The Eredar have excellent reasons to hate the blood elves. |
| 21:29.12 | Shouryuu | And like the alliance? |
| 21:29.19 | Adrine | I haven't figured that one out yet :P |
| 21:29.20 | GenNMX|Thrae | And the Alliance has excellent reasons to hate the Eredar. |
| 21:29.24 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Forsaken like the horde? |
| 21:29.31 | Adrine | Yup. But it may be an enemy-of-my-enemy hting |
| 21:29.37 | Adrine | And if they're wielding the Light paladin-style... |
| 21:29.49 | Adrine | ...I don't know how they get to that point, but if they do, I can understand the alliance between 'em. |
| 21:29.49 | GenNMX|Thrae | I know Blizzard has been painting a sour picture of the Alliance since day one, but fraternizing with the Eredar? |
| 21:29.55 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | :) |
| 21:29.56 | Shouryuu | yeah and wouldn't eredars be more warlocky like than paladins? |
| 21:30.03 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Humans have both |
| 21:30.24 | KarlKFI | i don't care really... if they make a new race of pallies i'll have to try it |
| 21:30.29 | ckknight | yea, why can't they have both? |
| 21:30.34 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 21:30.37 | Shouryuu | both of what? |
| 21:30.43 | ckknight | both locks and pallies |
| 21:30.44 | GenNMX|Thrae | Was it the Draeni or the Eredar that were suppose to be Humans from another dimension? |
| 21:31.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | never heard of that |
| 21:31.15 | ckknight | Draenei were "similar" to Humans |
| 21:31.19 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Draenei supposedly look like human-like normally |
| 21:31.25 | ckknight | before the corruption |
| 21:31.31 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | mmm |
| 21:31.32 | GenNMX|Thrae | Yeah, but they were warped when they came into Azeroth. |
| 21:31.49 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | And the Broken are messed up too |
| 21:31.50 | GenNMX|Thrae | Draenei Paladins would make more sense then. |
| 21:32.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Explain? |
| 21:32.25 | ckknight | not everyone of an entire race has to worship demons |
| 21:32.36 | ckknight | Humans have both locks and pallies, but they're both Human |
| 21:32.42 | ckknight | with conflicting views |
| 21:32.51 | ckknight | not everyone has to think the exact same beliefs |
| 21:32.55 | GenNMX|Thrae | Well, if Draenei are some type of parallel Humans, then they may have had Paladins at one point too. |
| 21:33.20 | GenNMX|Thrae | So Alliance gets the good, friendly Eredar that like to pick flowers and worship the Light? |
| 21:33.27 | ckknight | maybe |
| 21:33.27 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Do Paladins follow the Light exclusively? |
| 21:33.31 | Wobin_ | Happy Shiny Eradar |
| 21:33.36 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 21:33.39 | ckknight | also, Gnomes don't follow the Light |
| 21:33.44 | ckknight | so the Light isn't a uniting factor |
| 21:33.50 | GenNMX|Thrae | "We understand our heads are shaped like pinecones, but they are pinecones of goodness!" |
| 21:33.53 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | They may have been converted to the Light |
| 21:34.06 | Adrine | Kirkburn|Wiggle: Yes to my knowledge |
| 21:34.10 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | If they don't worship the Light, they're not really paladins |
| 21:34.14 | Adrine | Gnomes don't have a religion so much as a worship of science |
| 21:34.28 | Adrine | Hence their academic study of machinery and the arcane |
| 21:34.46 | wereHamster | does anyone have a ready-to-use IsDebuffActive() function ? |
| 21:34.49 | Adrine | Which tends to explain why they are good with arcane and demonic magics, but not so much with holy or shamanistic/druish magics. |
| 21:34.56 | KarlKFI | damn... looks like i get to reinstall.. |
| 21:35.09 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | science = evil ? :) |
| 21:35.23 | GenNMX|Thrae | Well, they have Tauren Druids, and made a backstory just for WoW to explain why. If they really wanted to, they could explain away Eredar Paladins...it's just that players going into WoW could get the Tauren Druid backstory, where as this would be invented sometime after release. |
| 21:35.24 | Maldivia | wereHamster: look at IsBuffActive - it scans debuffs aswell :) |
| 21:35.44 | KarlKFI | in most mythical fiction science is the 'other' magic |
| 21:36.20 | GenNMX|Thrae | Changing that much of common interpretation can make people upset. |
| 21:36.28 | wereHamster | argh ... I soo hate tooltips.. |
| 21:37.44 | Maldivia | wereHamster: well, then scan debuff textures |
| 21:37.51 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The more advanced science becomes, the more it appears like magic |
| 21:38.13 | Maldivia | and the more advanced magic becomes, the less it appears like science |
| 21:40.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Hello :) |
| 21:41.00 | wereHamster | I want such a function: DebuffActive("Weakened Soul") |
| 21:41.15 | krka | i have one of those |
| 21:41.20 | krka | but it does use tooltips |
| 21:41.44 | GenNMX|Thrae | IsBuffActive always worked great for me for both Buffs and Debuffs, even with various tooltip mods. |
| 21:42.11 | GenNMX|Thrae | Even in AceUtils the buff/debuff scanning function uses a tooltip. |
| 21:43.39 | wereHamster | why can't blizzard give us proper buff/debuff fuctions :'( |
| 21:45.02 | Cide | because they're not necessary |
| 21:45.22 | Miravlix | I disagree |
| 21:45.26 | Cide | I believe slouken said that since we have ways to access the information (tooltips), we don't need them |
| 21:45.41 | Cide | Miravlix: well, then tell that to him |
| 21:45.47 | krka | blizzard almost never gives us anything we need that'd help automate things |
| 21:45.51 | GenNMX|Thrae | wereHamster: There's UnitBuff(), but it returns the texture name, which as you know could be the same for two different buffs. |
| 21:45.54 | Miravlix | We can access the information, but in a very slow way |
| 21:46.13 | Miravlix | Meaning it's only realistic for very few addons to scan unitbuff/debuff |
| 21:46.14 | Cide | you have a way to access the information, it's not about helping automate things really |
| 21:46.21 | Cide | and no, Miravlix |
| 21:46.32 | Cide | that depends ENTIRELY on how you do it, and how often you do it |
| 21:46.49 | Cide | I'm not going to discuss anything |
| 21:46.53 | Cide | seeing as I need to sleep as well |
| 21:46.55 | Miravlix | You have to scan every time it changes |
| 21:47.00 | krka | nope |
| 21:47.03 | Cide | night |
| 21:48.24 | Miravlix | And this discussion is silly, it's not possible to do tooltip look ups fast, because they are slow |
| 21:48.41 | Adrine | Heh. |
| 21:48.44 | Miravlix | So multiple addons scanning the tooltip will cause slowdowns no matter how well they are written |
| 21:48.45 | Adrine | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/cdbreaker0177ms.jpg vs http://www.stealthhouse.net/hevsuit.jpg |
| 21:49.00 | Adrine | Dibs on Gordon the warlock. |
| 21:49.56 | Kaso | Where does the DefaultUI get the Item Quality Colours from, changing ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS or GetItemQualityColor() seems to have no effect. |
| 21:50.09 | Miravlix | It's a *huge* problem in the UI that a lot of things can't be accessed without using slow API's |
| 21:51.57 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Hey that's the Mark III, the Mark IV HEV is much better :) |
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| 21:56.17 | Ratbert_C1 | Dav1s |
| 21:56.27 | Ratbert_C1 | Grr... Stoopid Gaim... |
| 21:56.29 | Adrine | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/gnomelife2.jpg |
| 21:56.32 | Adrine | Conclusive proof. |
| 22:02.16 | Kaso | ha ha thats great |
| 22:05.38 | Depherios | ROFL |
| 22:06.14 | Adrine | I hope the lock epic weapon is a crowbar. |
| 22:06.22 | Depherios | lol |
| 22:06.40 | Maldivia | why settle for epic, when you can have legendary... |
| 22:06.45 | Shouryuu | And RAWR out ladies |
| 22:07.54 | Adrine | well |
| 22:07.59 | Adrine | There's a backstory for the Eredar |
| 22:07.59 | Adrine | http://forumopolis.com/showthread.php?t=23159 |
| 22:08.10 | Adrine | And it does seem to imply that Hyjal is the starting zone as was theorized earlier. |
| 22:09.32 | Maldivia | well, it would mean easy access to level 15+ zones |
| 22:09.53 | Adrine | Sure, once you get through, uh, Darkwhisper, and Winterspring, and Felwood! :P |
| 22:10.01 | Adrine | And you thought the Teldrassil -> Ironforge run was bad! |
| 22:10.52 | Maldivia | ghost runs, ftw... :) |
| 22:11.18 | Adrine | http://www.curse-gaming.com/static/nimage/29/img0051.jpg - wow. |
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| 22:11.21 | Maldivia | there'll probably be a flightpath to darkshore |
| 22:11.21 | Adrine | That's. Uh. Detailed. |
| 22:11.48 | Maldivia | wow... nice! |
| 22:11.57 | Adrine | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/news-29-1-e3-more-pictures.html |
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| 22:19.29 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Adrine, thread has gone |
| 22:19.36 | Adrine | It got merged |
| 22:19.44 | Adrine | http://forumopolis.com/showthread.php?t=23102&page=4 I think |
| 22:20.15 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Is that Illidan? |
| 22:20.26 | Adrine | Looks like him, doesn't it? |
| 22:21.00 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Yeah, must be |
| 22:21.05 | Cairenn | Don't forget you can track E3 coverage here as well: http://www.ogaming.com/data/4038~E3LatestUpdates.php |
| 22:21.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Oh hello! You are watching ... :) |
| 22:21.53 | Cairenn | Kirkburn|Wiggle: who? |
| 22:22.14 | sancus | wtb t3 stats |
| 22:22.14 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | You :) |
| 22:22.48 | Cairenn | This is pretty much the norm, yup. I'm always watching. And when I'm not, I get caught up when I get back. |
| 22:22.54 | Maldivia | sancus; you mean beside the 1k+ armor warrior checkplate, with lots of stamina, strength, defense, dodge and parry ? |
| 22:23.20 | sancus | I think those stats are wrong |
| 22:23.25 | sancus | because that chestplate sucks |
| 22:23.35 | sancus | and isnt consistent with the other stats I've heard |
| 22:25.59 | Maldivia | hmm, to me it looks better than current tier 2 set breast plates... |
| 22:26.10 | sancus | it is better |
| 22:26.22 | sancus | it's not as much better as it should be |
| 22:26.41 | Maldivia | I disagree |
| 22:26.44 | sancus | but we'll see |
| 22:26.49 | sancus | well, you haven't been told other t3 stats. |
| 22:27.48 | snurre | set bonuses for t3 are cool tho |
| 22:27.55 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Lol two new guild for the expansion |
| 22:28.02 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Alliance: "Eredar Paladins FTW" |
| 22:28.04 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Horde: "Eredar Paladins WTF" |
| 22:28.28 | snurre | 2 (or was it 3, cant remember) pieces = +5% hit chance on HS, sunder and revenge |
| 22:28.47 | Tain | I heard getting a full set of t3 has a bonus of putting you to the top of any BG queue you join. |
| 22:28.55 | snurre | 8 (out of 9) = when your hp drops below 20%, all heals received the next 6sec will have +360 healing |
| 22:29.28 | wereHamster | snurre, everytime hp drops below 20% ? |
| 22:29.30 | snurre | yes |
| 22:29.37 | wereHamster | w00t |
| 22:29.56 | Maldivia | snurre: and where do you have that info from? |
| 22:30.58 | snurre | priest 8 piece is imba.. every spell has a chance of proccing an effect called Epiphany, which gives you something like 300 mana per 5 sec for 15sec |
| 22:31.12 | Adrine | Where are you seeing the stats and bonuses? |
| 22:31.19 | snurre | nowhere, a little bird told me |
| 22:31.41 | Maldivia | "screenshot, or it didn't happen" (sorry, couldn't help myself) |
| 22:31.45 | snurre | hehe |
| 22:31.56 | Adrine | +5% to hit on HS/Sunder/Revenge is silly. |
| 22:32.02 | Adrine | Because if you're raiding you have +5% to hit already |
| 22:32.05 | snurre | it's a fantastic stat for tanking |
| 22:32.09 | Adrine | And specials have a 5% miss rate. |
| 22:32.11 | snurre | it's a tanking set |
| 22:32.30 | snurre | no agi or crit on it, nor any resists |
| 22:32.46 | Maldivia | with the stats posted for the chestplate, I'd say pretty much a tanking set |
| 22:32.57 | Adrine | I guess it frees up you up focus on other stats, but it seems rather silly given how much +hit there is endgame already and that you only need 5-6% if you're not dual wielding. |
| 22:33.20 | Maldivia | well, they need to add Wardrobe bags in 1.12 then... |
| 22:33.23 | Miravlix | Strange, reloadUI doesn't seem to reload my code. |
| 22:33.38 | snurre | the thing about miss when tanking is that it reduces your total threat output.. missing a revenge can be fatal |
| 22:33.39 | Maldivia | Miravlix: saved? saved to the correct place? |
| 22:34.08 | Miravlix | I'm talking loading lua files I changed |
| 22:34.21 | Adrine | But you only need 6% to not miss even against +3 bosses. |
| 22:34.26 | Adrine | Unless you're dual wielding. |
| 22:34.28 | Wobin_ | gah |
| 22:34.33 | Adrine | And 6% is easysauce if you're raiding. |
| 22:34.39 | snurre | not in tank gear |
| 22:34.41 | snurre | in dps, sure |
| 22:34.48 | Maldivia | Miravlix: yeah, I know... I just know, most often when my new code isn't being loaded with a reloadui, it's because I forgot to save the file I was working on |
| 22:34.53 | Miravlix | I've reload 10 times |
| 22:34.54 | Wobin_ | I can collect the frames correctly. But as soon as I try to reassign them, they randomly disappear from my tables =( |
| 22:35.01 | Miravlix | and it keept giving me an old error on line 380 |
| 22:35.12 | Miravlix | not until I restarted WoW did my code change take |
| 22:35.55 | Miravlix | I've been fighting this for an hour |
| 22:35.58 | Miravlix | The code was definately saved |
| 22:36.27 | Maldivia | hmm... 1.10.2 "feature"? |
| 22:36.35 | Maldivia | haven't really done much coding since 1.10.2 |
| 22:36.41 | GenNMX|Thrae | You know, with all the "uber stat" blues, purples, and oranges out there, I'll be trying to farm the Electromagnetic Gigaflux Reactivator from Bossplug when I'm near 60. |
| 22:36.57 | GenNMX|Thrae | Because it's COOL! |
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| 22:37.44 | snurre | oh, and the 5piece bonus for the shaman set is *really* good... adds 15mana/5sec to your lightning shield |
| 22:37.51 | ToastTheif | Hey Ckk, you here? |
| 22:38.14 | Adrine | Engineering trinkets rule. |
| 22:38.22 | Adrine | (The Gigaflux isn't one, but still) |
| 22:38.31 | ckknight | hey |
| 22:38.36 | Wobin_ | Wasn't there a mana shield that did that? |
| 22:38.37 | ToastTheif | yay |
| 22:38.43 | Wobin_ | That was a set bonus for -something- |
| 22:38.55 | GenNMX|Thrae | Yes, I also picked Engineering before Level 60...gold isn't everything ;) |
| 22:39.05 | ToastTheif | so I've been wondering about all these libraries you have |
| 22:39.15 | Adrine | I'm an engineering enchanter. Thank goodness I'm a rogue or I'd be dead broke :D |
| 22:39.44 | ckknight | alright |
| 22:39.54 | ToastTheif | are they actually required for FuBar? |
| 22:40.03 | ToastTheif | or FuBar just hooks in if it's there? |
| 22:40.25 | ckknight | FuBar includes em |
| 22:40.41 | ToastTheif | what exactly does that mean |
| 22:40.46 | ckknight | they're embedded |
| 22:41.36 | ToastTheif | oh.. wait so I don't need to keep downloading the new ones? they already in the FuBar folder and that's all I need? |
| 22:42.20 | ckknight | right. |
| 22:42.22 | ToastTheif | oh |
| 22:42.32 | ToastTheif | I've been downloading em and putting em in my addon folder |
| 22:42.36 | ToastTheif | heh |
| 22:42.39 | ckknight | that works too |
| 22:42.45 | ckknight | they function as standalone |
| 22:42.49 | ckknight | but it's not necessary |
| 22:43.09 | ToastTheif | well then, that's nice to know |
| 22:43.31 | ToastTheif | so what is the purpose of all the libraries exactly? just to improve handle everything? |
| 22:43.53 | Wobin_ | okay. What steps do I need to take to potentially reclaim a UIObject like a frame or texture? |
| 22:44.12 | Wobin_ | I thought it'd just be a simple case of reparenting and clearallpointing |
| 22:44.34 | Wobin_ | But my textures I'm saving are randomly disappearing |
| 22:44.47 | Wobin_ | (causing Wow to crash for some reason also) |
| 22:46.13 | Tain | You're venturing into uncharted waters, Wobin. We'll all looking from a distance to see if you get eaten by monsters. |
| 22:47.13 | Cairenn | hey Kirkburn|Wiggle? |
| 22:47.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Ciao ciao |
| 22:48.07 | Cairenn | I finally know what you are talking about, in that I've just seen one in game ... so the next question is, where/how are people getting them? |
| 22:48.18 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Blizzard booth |
| 22:48.29 | Cairenn | *blink* |
| 22:48.31 | Adrine | Getting what? |
| 22:48.32 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Possibly camera fones, I suppose |
| 22:48.38 | Adrine | Ooh, pictures. |
| 22:48.46 | Adrine | Camera phones is my guess. |
| 22:48.50 | Adrine | Maybe setup crew. |
| 22:49.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | It's odd ... why they started running the video now is beyond me |
| 22:49.08 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The murals are pretty hard to miss though |
| 22:49.36 | Wobin_ | Cairenn: Quest reward for the Orphan quest |
| 22:49.48 | Cairenn | that's the turtle, isn't it? |
| 22:49.59 | Adrine | I don't think they started running the video so much as someone at a magazine probably got ahold of it and it got leaked out |
| 22:49.59 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | er |
| 22:50.02 | Adrine | Pig, Turtle, or Rat, Cairenn |
| 22:50.07 | Tain | That's the turtle, rat, or... er... orphan. Yeah I think you get an orphan pet. |
| 22:50.10 | Adrine | Wiggles, Speedy, or Whiskers. :D |
| 22:50.16 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Mr Wiggles is the pig |
| 22:50.17 | Cairenn | I was talking about the sheep :p |
| 22:50.24 | Adrine | Wait, sheep, what? |
| 22:50.27 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | lol |
| 22:50.27 | Cairenn | the one I saw was a sheep |
| 22:50.30 | Tain | I want an orphan pet! |
| 22:50.32 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | This conversation is crazy |
| 22:50.51 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I thought you were talking about the alliance race, you were talking about sheep, I'm going mad |
| 22:51.01 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Mr Wiggles is a piglet |
| 22:51.05 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Speedy is a turtle |
| 22:51.08 | Tain | Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear. |
| 22:51.11 | Cairenn | on horde side, wiggles is a sheep |
| 22:51.23 | Adrine | Really?! |
| 22:51.25 | Tain | I thought Horde ate their orphans. |
| 22:51.34 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Are you sure? I know my piggy looks white in the sun |
| 22:51.35 | Cairenn | that's what I just saw :p |
| 22:51.44 | Cairenn | tell you when I finish the quest :p |
| 22:51.47 | Adrine | Maybe you saw a polymorphed mind-controlled person named Whiskers. >_> |
| 22:51.49 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Big and fat and white and cuddly |
| 22:52.17 | Cairenn | I'm 3/4 of the way through, will let you know :p |
| 22:52.17 | Tain | Wait are we talking about the players or pets now? |
| 22:52.23 | Cairenn | do you get to choose? |
| 22:52.28 | Adrine | Yup |
| 22:52.34 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Yeah |
| 22:52.36 | Adrine | According to what I've heard, you can choose turtle/rat/pig/5g |
| 22:52.38 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | 3 pets or 5g |
| 22:52.52 | Tain | Can I buy an orphan with the 5g? |
| 22:52.57 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | I had completed last night (when I started talking crazy stuff) |
| 22:52.58 | Cairenn | heh, don't need the 5g, will take a pet |
| 22:53.07 | Adrine | We're all planning on taking our orphans to Nefarian |
| 22:53.15 | Cairenn | I tried to get last night, wouldn't let me |
| 22:53.26 | Adrine | Nothing brings a kid up right like watching an army wade through knee-high bodies and gore. |
| 22:53.33 | Adrine | It wouldn't?! |
| 22:53.34 | Cairenn | refused to give me the quest |
| 22:53.38 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | The 5g is for people who like to tell children Father Greatwinter doesn't exist ... |
| 22:53.38 | Adrine | Last year we took them to Onyxia :( |
| 22:53.54 | Cairenn | no one in my guild could get it last night /shrug |
| 22:53.59 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Had to be after midnight |
| 22:54.13 | Cairenn | ah |
| 22:54.21 | Adrine | We do Nef on Friday, so there is hope! |
| 22:54.25 | Cairenn | but you were babbling before that, weren't you? |
| 22:54.35 | Cairenn | errr, nm, you babble all the time ;) |
| 22:54.37 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Midnight in europe, m'lady |
| 22:54.39 | Adrine | Fun fact: The expiration only ticks down when you're in-game |
| 22:54.46 | Adrine | So log into alts and get the orphan whistle |
| 22:54.49 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | And why yes, I do. |
| 22:54.50 | Adrine | Then don't play for 6 months like me |
| 22:54.51 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:55.10 | Adrine | And then log back in and drag the kid around and tell people that you got a rare orphan drop by going at war with the Argent Dawn and slaughtering them. >_> |
| 22:55.26 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:55.44 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | My, what a disturbing mind you have, Mr. Wolf |
| 22:55.53 | Adrine | Alternately, have fun with varying levels of crassness when people ask "Whoa, where did you get the kid!" |
| 22:56.01 | Adrine | Well, you see... |
| 22:56.02 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | And orphan as a reward for slaughtering their parents ... |
| 22:56.07 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | *An |
| 22:56.09 | Adrine | When a mommy warrior and a daddy warrior love each other VERY much... |
| 22:56.31 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | .. They go and slaughter some other kid's parents |
| 22:56.36 | Adrine | Exactly! |
| 22:56.39 | Adrine | Phat lewts for all. |
| 22:56.47 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Uber l33t! |
| 22:56.59 | Adrine | I think you should be able to have perma orphans who you can master loot stuff to and they'll wear it |
| 22:57.06 | Adrine | So instead of rotting or dusting stuff you don't need |
| 22:57.08 | Adrine | The kid wears it. |
| 22:57.26 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Kit them out in Twine :) |
| 22:57.33 | Adrine | I was thinking Lawbringer. |
| 22:57.39 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, er, okay |
| 22:57.40 | Adrine | I always wanted my own spork-on-a-leash. |
| 22:57.50 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | What's a spork? |
| 22:58.05 | Adrine | http://halloween.hiptophunt.com/img/posts/3284.jpg |
| 22:58.08 | Adrine | A spoon fork. |
| 22:58.12 | Adrine | Much like Lawbringer paladins. |
| 22:58.20 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | L.O.L. |
| 22:58.33 | Kirkburn|Wiggle | Well, that's not what I expected |
| 22:58.37 | Adrine | Observe: http://www.wowguru.com/db/image.php?typeID=6&file=208 |
| 22:58.57 | Adrine | Obviously, paladins are intended to be common and disposable. |
| 22:59.19 | Adrine | http://www.hunubbs.com/pic/Lawbringer.jpg |
| 22:59.23 | Adrine | Spoooooooooooork! |
| 22:59.43 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Looks like his arm is mutated |
| 22:59.56 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | "Christ, I'm turning into a dragon!" |
| 23:00.11 | Adrine | I knew I shouldn't have gone to sleep with that gold bracelet on. |
| 23:00.26 | Cairenn | ya'll are very weird, you know that? |
| 23:00.50 | Adrine | Cairenn, did you see my theory on the origins of the warlock tier 3 armor? |
| 23:00.53 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Ya. |
| 23:01.06 | Adrine | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/gnomelife2.jpg |
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| 23:01.17 | Cairenn | rofl! |
| 23:01.20 | Cairenn | I remember those skins |
| 23:01.22 | Adrine | All it needs is an epic crowbar. |
| 23:01.34 | ForgottenLords | TechPriests? |
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| 23:01.44 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | But we were supposed to get a caster legendary this patch! |
| 23:01.51 | Wobin_ | honestly. They look like those scavengers from Starwars |
| 23:01.52 | Adrine | I want wieldable gnomes. |
| 23:01.55 | Adrine | Jawas, yeah. |
| 23:01.57 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Bah, legendary crowbar it is |
| 23:02.05 | Adrine | As posted by someone in my guild... |
| 23:02.09 | Adrine | (waiting for it to come up) |
| 23:02.18 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | A Jawa who hasn't quite understood camoflage |
| 23:02.20 | Adrine | http://www.hsu.edu/joinerr/LockT3.jpg |
| 23:02.33 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | lol |
| 23:02.47 | Adrine | Maybe the Jawa is hiding in a tie-die factory. |
| 23:02.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:02.50 | Adrine | You never know. |
| 23:03.32 | Cairenn | So, who has put what in the water these days, anyway? You guys are being very odd, even for you guys ... |
| 23:03.52 | Cairenn | it's amusing, don't get me wrong |
| 23:03.53 | cladhaire | hi cair |
| 23:03.58 | Cairenn | hey cladhaire |
| 23:04.37 | cladhaire | How are things channel? |
| 23:04.44 | cladhaire | besides tooltip lookups being ZOMG slow. |
| 23:04.46 | Osagasu | HOLY- For once a CM actually gave us a heads up on the dev response to the player responce to the talent review for hte class! |
| 23:04.49 | Osagasu | >.> |
| 23:05.05 | Osagasu | s/responce/response/ |
| 23:05.11 | Osagasu | :< |
| 23:05.25 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | It's only amusing cos you know more than us :( (well, you suggested as much) |
| 23:05.34 | Adrine | Eh. I have little to do at work today, and have to amuse myself, Cair. :) |
| 23:06.19 | Cairenn | Adrine: s'okay, I'm just having fun teasing :) |
| 23:07.01 | Adrine | Quite alright. I'm just having fun sparring. :) |
| 23:07.16 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Mmm. I'm just weird. :) |
| 23:07.38 | Cairenn | Kirk sweetie, we already knew that ;) |
| 23:07.41 | Adrine | In other news, I'm a lot more excited about the Wii after today. |
| 23:07.52 | Cairenn | GAWD that name is stupid! |
| 23:08.03 | Osagasu | You know, this was the first patch I've been all over the review. <,<;; |
| 23:08.06 | Adrine | I don't know. People know it and are talking about it. |
| 23:08.22 | Adrine | It's made more of an impressing in...what, a week? Than the 360 or PS3 have in ever. |
| 23:08.25 | Cairenn | for a PR stunt, it's great, because people *are* talking about it |
| 23:08.28 | Adrine | Good or bad, people know it. |
| 23:08.44 | Cairenn | they are all saying it's stupid, but they are talking about it |
| 23:08.47 | Adrine | And really, I won't be surprised if they manage to hammer it into a known brand name. |
| 23:08.50 | Adrine | I mean, "Kleenex"? |
| 23:09.10 | Corrodias | nobody i know says that.. |
| 23:09.16 | KarlKFI | Kleenex is catchy |
| 23:09.27 | Adrine | It's silly right now because we don't have any...I dunno, real world experience with it. |
| 23:09.42 | Adrine | I think that if they get the market penetration they want, it'll become rather common usage. |
| 23:09.47 | Cairenn | just, the obvious jokes about it are so bad ... |
| 23:09.49 | Corrodias | i have my reservations. it doesn't have an "x" in it. |
| 23:09.51 | Adrine | I mean, think about all the negative reactions to the "X-Box" name. |
| 23:10.02 | KarlKFI | hey mom, can we play wii |
| 23:10.04 | Adrine | People hated it. They thought it was horrid, generic, nonrepresentative. |
| 23:10.04 | Cairenn | rofl, yeah, speaking of bad jokes about it, nice one Adrine |
| 23:10.11 | Corrodias | i rather think xbox is a good name >_> |
| 23:10.21 | Adrine | Xbox is a good name NOW because it's been built into a brand name. |
| 23:10.27 | Adrine | When it was announced people decried it as stupid. |
| 23:10.34 | Adrine | I think we'll have the same with the Wii. |
| 23:10.36 | Corrodias | maybe i have better sense than people do |
| 23:10.46 | KarlKFI | it's a microsoft product.. |
| 23:10.55 | snurre | it should be called "WEEEEEE!!!oneone" |
| 23:11.04 | Corrodias | i don't think we'll seriously ever accept something that sounds like "wee" |
| 23:11.09 | Adrine | I mean, if you completely abstract it from the product, you'd say "Uh, it's a box, that's...extreme? Wow, that name sucks." |
| 23:11.36 | Adrine | But it's quite commonly used in normal conversation now. |
| 23:11.36 | Adrine | I mean |
| 23:11.36 | Corrodias | completely abstracting it from the product makes it irrelevant |
| 23:11.53 | Adrine | We could call it the Wii and pronounce it the W-2, but that might give people April 15 flashbacks. ;) |
| 23:11.54 | Corrodias | there can be no meaning to a name if you completely disregard the product :/ |
| 23:12.11 | Adrine | Right, and right now, we don't have a product to associate with the Wii name. |
| 23:12.16 | Adrine | So it seems really silly. |
| 23:12.35 | Adrine | I mean, ok, "Windows". That's a horrid name for an OS. |
| 23:12.46 | Corrodias | perhaps it will make sense if the console LOOKS like a puddle of urine, but i don't think that will do much to enhance the sales |
| 23:12.46 | Adrine | But nobody thinks twice about it. |
| 23:12.53 | Corrodias | it's not a horrible name! |
| 23:12.56 | Adrine | Sure it is. |
| 23:13.06 | Adrine | "Windows" make you think of glass. |
| 23:13.07 | Corrodias | nowhere near on the level of "wii" |
| 23:13.15 | Cairenn | Adrine: actually, Windows as a name for an OS is very apt, imo |
| 23:13.16 | Adrine | Because Wii hasn't had time to build a brand name yet. |
| 23:13.38 | Corrodias | because wii sounds like i've drunk too much and need to take a wee |
| 23:13.38 | Adrine | It's apt because of the window application representation, yes. |
| 23:14.00 | Cairenn | it's apt for any number of reasons ... what do "windows" do? |
| 23:14.09 | Adrine | Break. :P |
| 23:14.12 | Corrodias | nice |
| 23:14.14 | Adrine | Just mark my words. A year from now, we will consider "Wii" to be a pretty normal word if the console doesn't crash and burn. |
| 23:14.15 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 23:14.39 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | lol |
| 23:14.53 | Adrine | Windows also allow theives and other unsavory folk into your home! |
| 23:15.04 | KarlKFI | sounds apt |
| 23:15.21 | Adrine | Windows don't afford you any privacy! |
| 23:15.27 | Corrodias | i will agree that unix and especially linux have no relationship at all to their product and are balls as names |
| 23:15.31 | Adrine | I could keep going *grin* |
| 23:15.43 | Adrine | I like abstract product names, personally. |
| 23:15.53 | Corrodias | so it would seem |
| 23:15.56 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Who talks about 'wee' the most? Who will play the 'wii' the most? Poor children, they're gonna be so confused when their mother asks if they need to toilet |
| 23:16.23 | Adrine | "This project was called Unics, short for Uniplexed Information and Computing System, and could support two simultaneous users." |
| 23:16.29 | Adrine | Which was shortened to Unix :) |
| 23:16.41 | Adrine | And Linus + Unix = Linux, so there is method behind the madness. :) |
| 23:16.59 | Adrine | brb guys, I'm going to go play with my Wii |
| 23:17.18 | Adrine | Granted, it will give rise to all sorts of crass jokes :P |
| 23:17.22 | Corrodias | ugh. i hope you're wrong. i don't ever want to see people saying 'wii' in a positive context. |
| 23:17.33 | Adrine | But that's almost a good thing. If people are joking about Wii, then it enforces the brand. |
| 23:17.43 | Adrine | I've already had my friends replacing "we" with "wii" in IM conversations. |
| 23:18.02 | Adrine | I don't like the name, but it's freakin' brilliant from a marketing standpoint. |
| 23:18.06 | Adrine | Gold stars all around. |
| 23:18.08 | Corrodias | i am not a marketing major. tell me, does making your product the laughingstock of the industry increase your profit? |
| 23:18.09 | KarlKFI | oi... when did the Data folder become 5.24GB |
| 23:18.19 | Adrine | Corrodias: There's no such thing as bad publicity. ;) |
| 23:18.31 | Corrodias | michael jackson probably disagrees with you |
| 23:18.49 | KarlKFI | michael jackson's also an idiot |
| 23:18.52 | Cairenn | btw, you guys were right, it's a pig, but damned if it didn't look like a sheep |
| 23:18.56 | Adrine | ... |
| 23:19.09 | Adrine | Maybe it was a polymorphed pig? |
| 23:19.15 | Adrine | Also, I am the worst pet owner ever ;_; |
| 23:19.20 | KarlKFI | cant poly a beast |
| 23:19.36 | Adrine | The other week in MC, while standing around waiting for Domo loot to be distributed, I kept pulling out pets, and they would spawn in Domo's lava pit and die. |
| 23:19.51 | Corrodias | while i was playing, i tried to collect all the pets on my hunter. now i can see how little that matters, even from an in-game perspective. |
| 23:20.02 | Adrine | I like having the pets. They're just flavor. |
| 23:20.08 | Adrine | The oozeling > * |
| 23:20.12 | Corrodias | yes, but collecting -all- of them was a silly thing to try to do |
| 23:20.13 | KarlKFI | lol, ya |
| 23:20.22 | KarlKFI | oozeling nees to be a party debuff |
| 23:20.27 | Adrine | Yes it does. >_ |
| 23:20.29 | Cairenn | I love having the pets |
| 23:20.29 | Corrodias | i don't even like birds |
| 23:20.36 | Adrine | Can I be in the MT group please? |
| 23:20.55 | Adrine | The oozeling rules if for nothing else than standing in Ironforge spamming "can sum1 cleanse me plz" |
| 23:20.57 | Iriel|working | I've got an ongoing mission to train everything |
| 23:21.05 | Iriel|working | I even have an addon to track which ones i've been missing |
| 23:21.09 | Adrine | Wow, nice. |
| 23:21.33 | Corrodias | train as in make into your pet with a hunter? |
| 23:21.38 | Iriel|working | Yes |
| 23:21.55 | Adrine | That's much more interesting than trying to train everything in the game onto other people. >_> |
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| 23:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/BulkMail-0.4.5.zip |
| 23:41.09 | hyperChipmunk | whoops, wrong chan =) |
| 23:41.21 | hyperChipmunk | though y'all are welcome to try it if ya like >8D |
| 23:42.16 | Legorol | evening folks |
| 23:42.27 | Cairenn | hey Legorol |
| 23:42.30 | Legorol | when is E3? and does Blizz have official coverage? |
| 23:42.44 | Legorol | i know wowi is going to do a great job covering it ;-) |
| 23:42.46 | Cairenn | it's now |
| 23:42.49 | Kirov | Tomorrow |
| 23:43.03 | Kirov | Right now is all the pre-show stuff |
| 23:43.08 | Adrine | E3 opens tomorrow. |
| 23:43.12 | Kirov | Tomorrow the expo floor actually opens |
| 23:43.16 | Adrine | There are pre-show presentations and stuff yesterday and today. |
| 23:43.30 | Cairenn | The conference portion is already under way |
| 23:43.36 | Cairenn | The *expo* part starts tomorrow |
| 23:43.53 | Kirov | expo is all most people care about |
| 23:43.53 | Legorol | do normal people go to the conference? |
| 23:43.57 | Legorol | oki |
| 23:44.01 | Cairenn | Legorol: you have to be in the industry |
| 23:44.02 | Adrine | You have to be "in the industry" technically |
| 23:44.14 | Legorol | Cairenn, are you going to E3? |
| 23:44.18 | Adrine | But that's a very loose definition and it's easy to get tickets if you're determined to. |
| 23:44.18 | Cairenn | as for Blizz, they have their booths and stuff |
| 23:44.29 | Adrine | Cairenn could get tickets for running a WoW-related website, for example. |
| 23:44.32 | Cairenn | Legorol: no, I got ... messed up ... at the last minute |
| 23:44.38 | Legorol | :( |
| 23:44.41 | Cairenn | Adrine: I was supposed to be there |
| 23:44.43 | Adrine | Most of us could probably get tickets for writing mods and being active parts of the modding community. |
| 23:44.45 | Adrine | Aww! |
| 23:44.48 | Legorol | what's the best site for coverage? (ok, 2nd best after wowi :D ) |
| 23:44.51 | Adrine | I'm so sorry you can't go :( |
| 23:44.55 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Adrine, I think you're a bit optimistic there :P |
| 23:45.04 | Adrine | Eh, I have friends who have basically done that, Kirk. |
| 23:45.04 | Kirov | I've been in the industry for 6-7 years now and never bothered to go to the "conference" part. It's for marketing, journalists, and biz folks |
| 23:45.13 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | But if Cairenn went, we wouldn't have her here :) |
| 23:45.16 | Cairenn | Legorol: which, further to your question about Blizzard, they have their booths and stuff |
| 23:45.19 | Legorol | i'm surprised Blizz hasn't said anything about E3 on their webpage |
| 23:45.30 | Cairenn | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles: yeah, big loss that would be ... not |
| 23:45.41 | Kirov | Lego - It'll be up tomorrow when they make official announcements |
| 23:45.42 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | :( Would be too! |
| 23:45.47 | Adrine | I'm sure Cairenn would be REALLY torn up about not having to put up with us ;) |
| 23:46.12 | Cairenn | Legorol: http://www.ogaming.com/data/4038~E3LatestUpdates.php |
| 23:46.39 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | 9am PST will be the opening time I suppose |
| 23:46.43 | Legorol | so whose money is on Alliance race announcement? |
| 23:46.49 | Legorol | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles: PST or PDT? |
| 23:46.50 | Cairenn | as for our coverage, well, all the nice exclusives I had lined up all went poof when my attendance got poofed |
| 23:46.58 | Legorol | :((( |
| 23:46.59 | Kirov | Draenei |
| 23:47.01 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Legorol, not sure |
| 23:47.04 | Wobin_ | =(( |
| 23:47.07 | Adrine | Eredar of some form. |
| 23:47.18 | Adrine | No doubt after the stuff I've seen today. ;) |
| 23:47.18 | Cairenn | Legorol: it's already been stated that the "official" announcement is during E3 |
| 23:47.19 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | (IGN say they'll have something at 11am) |
| 23:47.19 | Legorol | sorry i meant, who thinks that the race will be announced |
| 23:47.28 | Adrine | Of course it will ;) |
| 23:47.28 | Legorol | Cairenn: cool, i musta missed that |
| 23:47.39 | Adrine | There's no better place to announce than E3. |
| 23:47.43 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Eredar, going from the naughty piccies we've been seeing ... |
| 23:47.56 | Kirov | I can't beleive it's Eredar |
| 23:47.57 | ckknight | yea, they'll announce at E3 |
| 23:48.05 | ckknight | it seems too unlikely to be Eredar |
| 23:48.09 | Cairenn | what are Eredar? |
| 23:48.17 | Kirov | Cairenn - the new race/ |
| 23:48.19 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | This ;) http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Eredarmural.jpg |
| 23:48.23 | ckknight | Cairenn, the ones who turned Sargeras evil |
| 23:48.24 | Adrine | Eredar are the big bad sorcerer demons that corrupted Sargeras and are the backbone of the Burning Legion |
| 23:48.30 | Cairenn | it isn't |
| 23:48.35 | Adrine | Archimonde was one of the most powerful of the Eredar. |
| 23:48.42 | ckknight | I think the Eredar might be just a way to throw off the scent |
| 23:48.43 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Okay, this http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Archimonde2.jpg |
| 23:48.44 | Kirov | My money is on uncorrupted Draenei |
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| 23:49.05 | Adrine | Kirov, it could be that if they spun it enough, but the shots we've seen today are...damning to say the least. |
| 23:49.11 | Adrine | If it's not Eredar, it's their very close half-brother. |
| 23:49.12 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Cairenn, were you saying the picture isn't an Eredar, or the race isn't? |
| 23:49.26 | Kirov | Adrine - But we've never ever seen a true Draenei |
| 23:49.29 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | lol |
| 23:49.34 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Dammit! |
| 23:49.54 | Adrine | Kirov: I know, but they're described as humanoid, IIRC. |
| 23:50.11 | Adrine | And the Draenei we've seen, both lost ones and Broken have consistent and distinct differences from Eredar. |
| 23:50.15 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Cairenn's being a meanie again ... *runs off to complain to ChanServ* |
| 23:50.16 | Kirov | And some of the features of the new race matches that of The Broken, which are mildly mutated Draenei |
| 23:50.26 | Adrine | The Broken don't have four fingers or noses. |
| 23:50.34 | Kirov | Right |
| 23:50.38 | Kirov | And look at The Lost Ones |
| 23:50.46 | Kirov | They look even more mutated, but they're both Draenei |
| 23:51.03 | Adrine | Right, but the no-nose and two-finger thing is consistent. |
| 23:51.07 | Kirov | The lore says that the uncorrupted Draenei look more human-like |
| 23:51.19 | Adrine | The pictures we've seen are...very different. |
| 23:51.30 | Adrine | I dunno. Maybe we'll see. Uncorrupted Draenei wouldn't be very shocking though. |
| 23:51.32 | Legorol | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles, those pics you had up here earlier.. |
| 23:51.37 | Legorol | where are they from? E3? |
| 23:51.40 | Kirov | Adrine - And they're all of Draenei that are horribly disfigured |
| 23:51.43 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Yes, apparently |
| 23:51.47 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | From the Blizz booth |
| 23:51.51 | Kirov | Lego- yeah, that's Blizzard's booth |
| 23:51.51 | Legorol | oh, are they leaked or something |
| 23:51.58 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Apparently |
| 23:51.59 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 23:52.02 | Legorol | who where when why for how much? |
| 23:52.04 | Legorol | :D |
| 23:52.06 | Gryphen | omg |
| 23:52.20 | Osagasu | did you guys see the pic of the guy in plate armor that looked horribly like lightforge w/a tome? |
| 23:52.21 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Where and when should be easy enough :P |
| 23:52.30 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | This dude? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Eredar2xf.jpg |
| 23:52.34 | Adrine | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/e3/ is my collection. |
| 23:52.37 | Kirov | You guys will probably find out about the race before I do, since I'll be driving to LA tomorrow around the time they'll probably mention it. |
| 23:52.39 | Osagasu | aye |
| 23:52.55 | Kirov | Osagasu - that's the rank 14 alliance plate armor, not lightforge |
| 23:53.02 | Osagasu | ah. |
| 23:53.03 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Grand Marshal |
| 23:53.16 | zespri_work | so who is saying that the new race is eredar? |
| 23:53.29 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | The pictures :) |
| 23:53.30 | Kirov | zespri - the forums |
| 23:53.58 | Osagasu | but what about the book? |
| 23:54.04 | Osagasu | >.> |
| 23:54.11 | zespri_work | right. I'm just not sure how evil wralock race can connect with alliance, but blizzard can make wonders, I know |
| 23:54.19 | Adrine | Book + hammer + bird shoulder armor = paladin |
| 23:54.23 | Kirov | Osagasu - meh |
| 23:54.32 | Adrine | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/warcraft_samwise062c.html#gallery |
| 23:55.19 | Osagasu | not the same book. |
| 23:55.29 | Adrine | No, but paladins are the only ones that wield books on chains :P |
| 23:55.40 | Adrine | And the warhammer is a signature paladin weapon. |
| 23:55.51 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | It's a pally, just not in Lightforge |
| 23:56.04 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Golden armour doesn't always equal Lightforge :) |
| 23:58.15 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | I know, lets discuss sexy Illidan |
| 23:58.27 | Adrine | Illidan is looking pretty messed up. |
| 23:58.34 | Adrine | http://www.curse-gaming.com/static/nimage/29/img0051.jpg |
| 23:58.48 | zespri_work | so if you buy expansion and you are like level 1 can you go to outland? |
| 23:58.53 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | I think he's angry with his hand |
| 23:59.07 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Yes, but you'll die zespri_work :P |
| 23:59.22 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Depending on the location of the alliance race, natch |
| 23:59.34 | Legorol | the challenge will be to roll a non-BE level 1 horde char and get to BE starting area ;-) |
| 23:59.45 | Legorol | so that you can grind BE rep from level 1 for exalted |
| 23:59.49 | Kirk|Mr_Wiggles | Well, I doubt that'll be that hard |
