| 00:00.44 | Cairenn | what unit mods are you using? most will let you move them wherever you want, without needing to resort to MoveAnything |
| 00:00.57 | Crispix | Unit mods? |
| 00:01.02 | Crispix | You mean.. what are my unit frames? |
| 00:01.07 | Crispix | Perl's framse |
| 00:01.07 | Tain | Bah guess not. Oh well, contributed more to the G15 thread anyway. |
| 00:01.08 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 00:01.21 | Crispix | Perls won't let you move em :( |
| 00:01.29 | Crispix | unless.. it will and I don't know about it o_O |
| 00:01.30 | Cairenn | you should be able to ... well poo on that, get someone else's |
| 00:01.45 | Crispix | but.. but... |
| 00:01.47 | Anduin|Cowzzz | ahh... that's why you can't move them. lol. those aren't the default frames |
| 00:01.49 | Crispix | I love perls |
| 00:02.21 | Cairenn | there are lots that look much like Perl - DUF, WatchDog, ummm, I know there are others |
| 00:02.30 | Crispix | any good links? |
| 00:02.42 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/search.php? |
| 00:03.03 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Parak (n=profi@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:03.21 | Kremonte | i use aceperl :P its nice |
| 00:03.23 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=21&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 00:03.33 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=47&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 00:03.42 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=50&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 00:03.47 | Cairenn | ... |
| 00:04.21 | Anduin|Cowzzz | this is brutal |
| 00:04.28 | Crispix | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4463 hrm.. those are kinda nice |
| 00:04.54 | Anduin|Cowzzz | wardrobe code to move main hand to 2nd hand and leave main hand empty when there was a 2nd hand before.. |
| 00:05.16 | Crispix | Cairenn can I rearrange these according to the way I think I'd like em: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4463 ? |
| 00:05.16 | Anduin|Cowzzz | and all the dozens of ways to do similar things with rings and trinkets as well |
| 00:05.27 | Anduin|Cowzzz | all with only a single pass loop |
| 00:05.58 | Cairenn | ask the author *points at Anduin|Cowzzz* :p |
| 00:06.07 | Crispix | Anduin|Cowzzz.... |
| 00:06.26 | Crispix | can I move these http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4463 around like the way I have requested in that .. post? |
| 00:06.29 | Anduin|Cowzzz | heh. yes. Those are the default frames modified |
| 00:06.44 | Crispix | care to teach me how? |
| 00:06.50 | Anduin|Cowzzz | and since i wrote both MF and Arch, they of course work together |
| 00:06.56 | Tain | I used AcePerl until I started using WatchDog. |
| 00:07.01 | Tain | WatchDog is so loverly. |
| 00:07.14 | Anduin|Cowzzz | same way i said before |
| 00:07.47 | Crispix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.47 | Crispix | & target frames where you want 6) /mobile anchors |
| 00:07.49 | Crispix | eh? |
| 00:07.55 | Anduin|Cowzzz | right |
| 00:08.20 | Anduin|Cowzzz | your's have to enable the PlayerFrame too if you want to move that |
| 00:08.31 | Crispix | nope |
| 00:08.31 | Anduin|Cowzzz | since it's different than the party ones |
| 00:08.39 | Crispix | just the pet frames and the party frames |
| 00:09.35 | Cairenn | ROFL Tain! |
| 00:10.01 | Anduin|Cowzzz | AcePerl just kinda sounds funny.. |
| 00:11.01 | Tain | :) |
| 00:12.04 | Ktron|afk | anyone know of place I can find info on servers by server? |
| 00:13.22 | Tain | Legorol compiled some information and posted it and it was deleted, so it's not likely you'll find any official source. |
| 00:13.27 | Crispix | eeehhch.... |
| 00:13.33 | Tain | I haven't seen anything else. |
| 00:13.35 | Iriel | What kind of server information do you want? |
| 00:13.37 | Crispix | default frames.. so iccy |
| 00:13.47 | Legorol | Ktron|afk, what kind of info are you after? |
| 00:14.50 | Ktron|afk | Why would they have deleted it? hm... I'm just looking to pick a new server, and I'm hoping to pick one that isn't too high level and is known to be fairly active and likely to be a good one to join... heh, I know I want it to be PvP, and I figured I could get at least some basic info, like number of guilds, average player level, avg. number of players online, ratio of horde to alliance, etc... |
| 00:15.56 | Iriel | Lego's post was the IP's of the servers |
| 00:16.01 | Iriel | not that kind of information at all |
| 00:16.08 | Ktron|afk | ah |
| 00:16.29 | Ktron|afk | yeah, I'm looking for like wowrankings for servers |
| 00:16.32 | Ktron|afk | or something like that |
| 00:16.50 | Iriel | You could trawl the various server forums |
| 00:16.54 | Crispix | movable frames doesn't work any more :( |
| 00:17.11 | Ktron|afk | that's what I was just thinking, but trawling them sounds like much work than I was hoping for |
| 00:18.07 | Ktron|afk | I mean, looking at how much they've completed of AQ might help too |
| 00:23.23 | Crispix | grrr |
| 00:23.33 | Crispix | not many more unit frames addons :/ |
| 00:25.10 | *** join/#wowi-lounge zeeg (n=wguru@63.147.183.47) |
| 00:26.21 | Anduin|Cowzzz | perhaps if you described your problem precisely we could help |
| 00:26.43 | Crispix | I did... in that post.. what I'd love to do.. and I can't do it :( |
| 00:27.28 | Cairenn | I'm not understanding why you can't. You should be able to ... |
| 00:27.39 | Crispix | If you want... |
| 00:27.52 | Anduin|Cowzzz | what post.. |
| 00:27.55 | Crispix | I'll zip my UI and then you can try it.. then move em the way I'd like to be moved.. then zip it back up... |
| 00:28.02 | Crispix | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3866 |
| 00:28.06 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3866 |
| 00:28.08 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:28.23 | Crispix | its ... sort of an odd request :) |
| 00:29.16 | Anduin|Cowzzz | not really.... and it's not esp hard to do |
| 00:29.26 | Anduin|Cowzzz | just cant do it with perl |
| 00:29.33 | Crispix | .. why not? |
| 00:29.45 | Anduin|Cowzzz | unless you use move anything or visor to specify the frame |
| 00:29.56 | Ktron|afk | you could definitely do it with moveanything, 30 seconds worth of work |
| 00:30.08 | Anduin|Cowzzz | right |
| 00:30.26 | Crispix | Ktron|afk Thats if I could understand Move Anything |
| 00:30.29 | Anduin|Cowzzz | you just have to know what you're doing |
| 00:30.51 | Cairenn | yeah, I'm just don't "get" what the problem is, should be an easy thing to do |
| 00:30.55 | Crispix | last time I did Move anything.. I fubared my whole ui |
| 00:31.48 | Cairenn | I'm not trying to put you down Crispix, don't get me wrong |
| 00:32.11 | Cairenn | just, seems so easy to me, not sure why you're having such a problem with it |
| 00:32.39 | Crispix | I'm just super scared to break my ui again... |
| 00:32.51 | Crispix | I've worked so super hard on it... its just.. I don't wanna break it again |
| 00:33.08 | Cairenn | back up your WTF folder |
| 00:33.19 | Cairenn | if everything goes to crap, put it bak |
| 00:33.24 | Cairenn | back* |
| 00:33.59 | Crispix | see.. my problem is I don't understand how to move things with move anything.. its just.. very scary because the interface for move anything is just so damn confusing |
| 00:34.42 | Shouryuu | Hummm |
| 00:34.50 | Shouryuu | well .hackSign wasn't too bad |
| 00:35.33 | Crispix | I suppose I could use these: http://www.curse-gaming.com/modscreens.php?id=3001 |
| 00:37.06 | Anduin|Cowzzz | Wardrobe-AL v1.6 --> WoWI |
| 00:37.43 | Cairenn | approved |
| 00:37.48 | Ktron|afk | Crispix; if you can't use MoveAnything, from Discord's mods... Discord Unit Frames should be fine |
| 00:38.49 | Shouryuu | night folks |
| 00:40.33 | Crispix | hrm that is a good idea Ktron |
| 00:40.54 | Cairenn | I already suggested that :p |
| 00:40.56 | Cairenn | sheesh |
| 00:41.07 | Crispix | did not !!! :P |
| 00:41.34 | Cairenn | did too, scroll up to where I gave you a ton of links ... one of them was to the Discord section on our site |
| 00:41.45 | Cairenn | can also check out minigroup: http://wow.jaslaughter.com/ |
| 00:42.22 | Crispix | wheres the screenshots on that one? |
| 00:42.37 | Cairenn | minigroup? trying to find some :p |
| 00:43.03 | Crispix | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=66 |
| 00:43.06 | Crispix | think I beatcha :) |
| 00:43.24 | Cairenn | that is oooooooooooold |
| 00:43.43 | Crispix | yeh.. it appears to be |
| 00:43.56 | Crispix | Looking at discord unit frames rigth now |
| 00:46.03 | Cairenn | Cairenn: there are lots that look much like Perl - DUF, WatchDog, ummm, I know there are others |
| 00:46.03 | Cairenn | Crispix: any good links? |
| 00:46.03 | Cairenn | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/search.php? |
| 00:46.03 | Cairenn | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=21&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 00:46.03 | Cairenn | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=47&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 00:46.03 | Cairenn | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=50&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 00:46.05 | Cairenn | Cairenn: ... |
| 00:46.15 | Cairenn | :p |
| 00:46.30 | Crispix | I kinda like Neeblers 3d Unit models |
| 00:47.02 | Crispix | Anyone here care to kindly tell me how to use new discord art custom frames? |
| 00:47.22 | Cairenn | Xageroth's Model Citizen is nice, too: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3456 |
| 00:47.58 | Cairenn | Crispix: read the readme's and forums and threads and and and |
| 00:48.17 | Crispix | oooh model citizens unit frame picture is nice |
| 00:49.58 | Cairenn | Well, Xageroth also gives a link to his custom DUF layout |
| 00:54.08 | Cairenn | Anduin|Cowzzz: didn't you have a tracking mod? |
| 00:56.49 | Cairenn | Ratbert_CP: approved |
| 00:57.01 | Cairenn | don't forget to create a support thread |
| 00:58.26 | Cairenn | gonna move it though, since you've got it marked as a Beta |
| 00:59.39 | Crispix | bah. |
| 00:59.54 | Crispix | Followed instructions to the word and it din't work.. *Tries another discord art addon* |
| 01:01.28 | Anduin|Cowzzz | tracking? |
| 01:01.41 | Anduin|Cowzzz | TrackerToggle |
| 01:02.03 | Anduin|Cowzzz | but i don't think that's what you're talkign about |
| 01:02.54 | Ratbert_CP | Cairenn: Where should I start the thread? As a comment on the addon, or in the interface forum? |
| 01:02.58 | Cairenn | Probably is |
| 01:03.32 | Cairenn | Ratbert_CP: a *thread* ... in the interface forums, and since it's beta, go for the beta forum |
| 01:03.50 | Cairenn | Anduin|Cowzzz: where can I see it? |
| 01:03.56 | Ratbert_CP | Gotcha. Will do! |
| 01:04.19 | Anduin|Cowzzz | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4374 |
| 01:04.21 | Cairenn | Ratbert_CP: can't recall, do you have a portal? |
| 01:04.39 | Ratbert_CP | No, was about to ask about that and how to get it listed under the Ace project... :) |
| 01:05.09 | Cairenn | Anduin|Cowzzz: works for the hunters' tracking abilites? |
| 01:05.18 | Anduin|Cowzzz | yes |
| 01:05.35 | Legorol | crazy tooltip bug: |
| 01:05.36 | Legorol | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=325965 |
| 01:05.40 | Cairenn | it's what I was thinking of then ... need to replace BC_Tracking, since it hasn't been updated in forever |
| 01:05.54 | Legorol | Anduin|Cowzzz, i know we encountered this before, have you posted it before, and has slouken replied to it? |
| 01:06.13 | Crispix | erm |
| 01:06.16 | Iriel | Legorol: Is it because the name is too long? |
| 01:06.22 | Crispix | Is anyone having any tproblems singing in? |
| 01:06.26 | Legorol | can it be too long? |
| 01:06.34 | Legorol | i can try to test that.. |
| 01:06.34 | Iriel | Legorol (The name of the 'TextRight* blocks, to be specific') |
| 01:06.39 | MentalPower | I'll go check... |
| 01:06.40 | Iriel | Yes, there's a limit to frame names |
| 01:06.44 | Legorol | oh, i didn't know |
| 01:06.52 | Iriel | I had to rename most of my tooltips to <Prefix>TT |
| 01:07.01 | Iriel | Instead of <Prefix>ToolTip |
| 01:07.02 | Legorol | do you know what the limit is? |
| 01:07.06 | Cairenn | Ratbert_CP: sec |
| 01:07.07 | Iriel | I would rather he fixed the limit though |
| 01:07.09 | Iriel | not offhand, sorry |
| 01:07.15 | Crispix | erm |
| 01:07.17 | Legorol | ok, sounds like it could be because of that |
| 01:07.24 | Crispix | can someone do me a favor and see if they can sign into WoW? |
| 01:07.25 | Legorol | will go test |
| 01:07.33 | Legorol | Crispix: i can, i am in now |
| 01:07.38 | Crispix | my puter is just ... sitting there authenticating... |
| 01:07.38 | Legorol | i'm in EU though |
| 01:07.40 | Tem | Iriel: are you sure that limit is still there? |
| 01:07.47 | Tem | I thought it was changed in 1.8 or something |
| 01:08.39 | Crispix | come on.... stupid pos.. authenticate :( |
| 01:08.50 | Natasem | anyone know how i go about getting a thread stickied? |
| 01:09.03 | Tem | get lucky |
| 01:09.05 | Iriel | Natasem : You generally dont.. if it's worth sticking, it'll get stickied |
| 01:09.07 | Tem | that's pretty much it |
| 01:09.28 | Natasem | i thought there was an e-mail address you could sent a note / nudge to |
| 01:09.38 | Iriel | Tem: I'm not sure, I tend not to deliberately run into things I've hurt myself with before |
| 01:09.46 | Tem | heh |
| 01:10.17 | Cairenn | Ratbert_CP: you should be able to enable your portal now (I forced an update of our DB cache) ... and http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1087 |
| 01:10.20 | Iriel | As for the length changes, I know there have been fixes for the size of saved variables (both the data and their names) |
| 01:10.30 | Natasem | i am trying to get this stickied: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-gilneas&t=115684 |
| 01:11.15 | Iriel | You have to hope a CM slides by and spots it |
| 01:11.35 | Codayus | Natasem: Oh, sticky things? yeah, there's an email address you can pester to geth things stickied... |
| 01:11.50 | MentalPower | 31 char limit |
| 01:11.50 | Codayus | Which is...uh...wtf, the WOW forums just died. |
| 01:11.59 | Natasem | lol |
| 01:12.23 | Codayus | The email address is mentioned in, of all places, a sticky in the warrior forums. |
| 01:12.33 | Codayus | Which I can't get to, because the forums just imploded. |
| 01:12.44 | Crispix | o_O... |
| 01:12.49 | Crispix | I've got a floating headin my ui |
| 01:12.58 | MentalPower | Legorol: the limit seems to be 31 chars |
| 01:12.59 | Legorol | Iriel, you are right, it seems to be name-length limit |
| 01:13.16 | Iriel | Legorol: Can you verify if it's template only, or all frames? |
| 01:13.23 | Iriel | Legorol : That'd be a good datapoint to add to the thread |
| 01:13.42 | Iriel | Legorol : I think I posted something about length to it, hard to tell with the friday freakishness |
| 01:14.05 | Legorol | MentalPower, what did you find? |
| 01:14.08 | Legorol | i can try without templates.. |
| 01:14.16 | Legorol | however, speaking of templates |
| 01:14.26 | Tem | ok, I've got to get out of here |
| 01:14.36 | Tem | later people |
| 01:14.42 | Legorol | can someone explain to me the change that happened to the load order or instantiation of inherited virtual frames or whatnot |
| 01:14.44 | Legorol | bye |
| 01:15.05 | Ratbert_CP | Cairenn: Thanks! Gotta run m'self... Wife, 2 yr old and 11-day old waiting for me... |
| 01:15.40 | MentalPower | well I found out that ItemizerHiddenTooltipTextRightX, where X <= 9 is ok, but if X>9 then the object is nil |
| 01:16.01 | MentalPower | eerr... |
| 01:16.09 | MentalPower | TextLeft |
| 01:16.12 | MentalPower | not TextRight |
| 01:16.20 | Iriel | oh, right made more sense 8-) |
| 01:16.31 | Iriel | since that was 31 chars |
| 01:16.53 | Crispix | Coulkd some one help me? |
| 01:16.56 | MentalPower | yeah, my test is invalid |
| 01:16.59 | MentalPower | let me try again |
| 01:17.06 | Crispix | Go to Misc Options and load the Custom profile. Remember if you want to make changes to create a new profile first. <-- where the heck are Misc Options? |
| 01:17.31 | Iriel | Legorol : A *CHANGE*? Or the clarification (There may have been a change, I recall documenting it somewhere) |
| 01:17.49 | Codayus | Crispix: Uh....you're looking at a Discord mod? Try the bottom left? |
| 01:17.52 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce5.disney.com) |
| 01:18.03 | Crispix | ...I'm only running Discord Team Frames |
| 01:18.08 | Codayus | If you said what the context of your question was, I missed it. |
| 01:18.13 | Codayus | Oh? Wait, wazat? |
| 01:18.16 | Crispix | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/customlayouts.pl?mod=DUF |
| 01:18.29 | Crispix | trying to run 'Neeblers' |
| 01:18.31 | MentalPower | ok, basically the same thing |
| 01:18.40 | MentalPower | except with TextLeft |
| 01:18.41 | Natasem | Codayus: the warr forum is back up |
| 01:18.42 | Codayus | Right, then look in the bottom left for a Misc button. |
| 01:18.58 | MentalPower | ItemizerHiddenTooltipTextLeftX, where X <= 9 is ok, but if X>9 then the object is nil |
| 01:19.24 | Codayus | Natasem: Hrm, not for me. |
| 01:19.31 | MentalPower | so 30 chars is ok, but 31 is not |
| 01:20.36 | Crispix | man.. WoW American side is SLOOOWW tonight.. :( |
| 01:20.43 | Crispix | keeps taking its time to authenticate and crap |
| 01:23.16 | Cairenn | okay, this is pretty freaking neat, I know it's incredibly OT for this channel, but much too cool to not share ... http://www.sonnyradio.com/chrisbliss.htm |
| 01:24.23 | Crispix | O_O |
| 01:24.58 | Crispix | holy crap O_O |
| 01:25.08 | Crispix | please tell me he does the piano trick too |
| 01:25.43 | Cairenn | just wait ... it gets better as you watch ... good lord .... |
| 01:26.02 | Crispix | O___O |
| 01:26.07 | Crispix | HE BOUNCED ONE OFF HIS HEAD :O |
| 01:26.33 | Cairenn | it's all synced to the music, and it's not like it's slow music either ... |
| 01:27.59 | Crispix | damn it.......... I can't get this to work |
| 01:28.19 | Crispix | got the 3d model to work.... but not the actual frames :( |
| 01:30.39 | Crispix | can someone please tell me where the Misc Options are in WoW? |
| 01:30.51 | Crispix | tells me to 'Go to Misc Options and click the Load Custom Settings button.' |
| 01:31.37 | Codayus | It's now misc settings for WoW - it's for whatever Discord mod you're messing with. DUF in this case. |
| 01:31.37 | Codayus | s/now/not |
| 01:31.55 | Crispix | Misc Settings in WoW? under interface? |
| 01:32.04 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.11 | Crispix | huh? |
| 01:32.13 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.18 | Crispix | OHH |
| 01:32.24 | Crispix | So I have to type /duh |
| 01:32.31 | Crispix | err.. lol.. /duf? |
| 01:32.34 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 01:32.38 | Crispix | okay :D |
| 01:32.46 | Cairenn | to bring up the config screen for DUF |
| 01:32.53 | Crispix | lets hope I can get this to work.. because the 3d models look friggin awesome |
| 01:33.00 | Cairenn | rather self explanatory after that |
| 01:33.07 | Crispix | I should hope so :D |
| 01:33.10 | Legorol | Ok, i have checked on the name-length limit, and there doesn't seem to be one for frames |
| 01:33.15 | Legorol | see here: http://wow.pastebin.com/571298 |
| 01:33.33 | Legorol | i tried simple non-virtual frame with long name, |
| 01:33.44 | Legorol | i tried simple virtual frame with long name that is inherited, |
| 01:34.03 | Legorol | and the example i have linked is a virtual frame with a child with a long name that is inherited |
| 01:34.06 | Legorol | all 3 cases work fine |
| 01:34.10 | Legorol | going to try fontstrings next |
| 01:37.36 | Iriel | So maybe it's tooltip specific? |
| 01:39.42 | Legorol | no problems with fontstrings either |
| 01:39.47 | Legorol | yah, looks like tooltip specific |
| 01:40.07 | Legorol | you have to remember that the tooltip data filling in code, inside C, looks specifically for the TextLeftX fontstrings |
| 01:40.20 | Legorol | if you named those differently in the template, e.g. TestLeftX, |
| 01:40.23 | Legorol | then the tooltip doesn't get filled in |
| 01:40.33 | Legorol | so i'd imagine the limitation is with that part of the code |
| 01:40.58 | Legorol | i'll go edit my post |
| 01:41.10 | Iriel | I just added your findings to my last piece, in summary |
| 01:41.37 | Legorol | btw, here is the test i tried with fontstring: http://wow.pastebin.com/571305 |
| 01:41.45 | Legorol | not only does Hello World correctly show up, |
| 01:41.46 | Iriel | I wasn't sure if it was that the virtual frame implementation was dropping objects, or if it was the tooltip, both are C++ code that runs with potential fixed string sizes. |
| 01:42.05 | Legorol | you can do SomeInstanceA234567890123456789012345678901234567890:SetText("testing123) and it works |
| 01:42.37 | Iriel | Can you anchor against it? |
| 01:42.42 | Iriel | i.e. can the C++ frame engine find it? |
| 01:42.52 | Legorol | lemme try |
| 01:44.06 | Legorol | yup, i can anchor against the fontstring with the long name |
| 01:44.32 | Legorol | it's also correctly in the Lua namespace, obviously |
| 01:45.18 | Iriel | I wonder if you can give a frame a numeric name |
| 01:45.30 | Iriel | it will presumably end jup accessable via getglobal, but not directly from lua code |
| 01:46.03 | Legorol | i can try :D |
| 01:46.59 | Legorol | works fine via getglobal |
| 01:47.29 | Legorol | i changed my test case so that that virtual fontstring child ends up with a numeric-only name |
| 01:47.38 | Iriel | nice |
| 01:47.47 | Iriel | i'll have to remember that trick in case I ever want to annoy someone |
| 01:48.07 | Iriel | Start all of my frame names with 1riel |
| 01:49.00 | Codayus | Heh |
| 01:51.16 | MentalPower | lol |
| 01:51.39 | Crispix | it appears WoW is having some server issues :( |
| 01:51.49 | Legorol | not where i am... :p |
| 01:51.57 | Legorol | EU > US for once |
| 01:52.17 | Iriel | Can you put symbols in frame names? |
| 01:52.20 | Iriel | Specifically ()'s ? |
| 01:52.22 | Legorol | Iriel, i decided to post the example that *does* work in the thread |
| 01:52.36 | Legorol | hehe, that's a funny idea |
| 01:52.38 | Legorol | don't see why not though |
| 01:52.43 | Legorol | any UTF-8 string should be valid |
| 01:52.50 | Legorol | i'll go try |
| 01:53.26 | Legorol | worked fine |
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| 01:54.02 | Crispix | Cairenn you around? |
| 01:57.02 | Cairenn | yup |
| 01:57.15 | Crispix | -/nuf didn't work |
| 01:57.30 | Crispix | I've got a floating 3d head... but the other frames didn't work |
| 01:57.38 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.40 | Crispix | and I extracted it -just- like the zip said to do |
| 01:57.45 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.32 | Crispix | YAY |
| 01:58.36 | Crispix | I think you got it working |
| 01:58.43 | Crispix | but... I'm missing certian peoples pictures |
| 01:58.59 | Crispix | like my party members |
| 01:59.15 | Crispix | do I have to actually see them to see their actual model? |
| 02:00.10 | Cairenn | dunno, I'm not using those mods so I can't say for sure |
| 02:01.14 | Crispix | oh my god.. |
| 02:01.15 | Crispix | it works :D |
| 02:01.24 | Codayus | Crispix: grats. :-) |
| 02:01.26 | Crispix | Looks just like I was yhoping too |
| 02:01.36 | Cairenn | check the various threads, both DUF and Xageroth |
| 02:02.21 | Crispix | wheres those? |
| 02:02.26 | Crispix | I think I might be happy with this |
| 02:03.13 | Cairenn | if you've got it working, disregard, as for where they are, hello, they're where you've already been going :p |
| 02:04.06 | Crispix | eeee! Transparent backgrounds on player character models.. |
| 02:04.08 | Crispix | SO sweet |
| 02:04.47 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:06.39 | Crispix | Caireen.. You just helped me finish my ui. |
| 02:06.42 | Crispix | *MASSIVE hug* |
| 02:06.46 | Crispix | Thank you so much |
| 02:08.21 | Legorol | I find it quite interesting how "building a UI", whatever that expression might mean, can consist of so many things: |
| 02:08.30 | Legorol | there are people in the community who are good at coding the addons themselves |
| 02:08.42 | Legorol | there are people good at taking addons and configuring a nice layout/UI with them |
| 02:08.51 | Legorol | there are people talented at artistic modding/skinning |
| 02:09.12 | Legorol | e.g. i love doing XML and Lua work but for the life of me i couldn't make an appealing looking UI |
| 02:09.23 | Legorol | by taking e.g. duf/dab etc. |
| 02:11.15 | Cairenn | wasn't just me dear, was other folks in this channel, and the folks that created the mods that you are using .... |
| 02:11.29 | Cairenn | but, you are welcome, none-the-less :) |
| 02:12.29 | Legorol | I love this whole community! |
| 02:12.53 | Legorol | the only people i don't like are the ones bragging about how they "created" a leet UI, and when you look at what they've done, |
| 02:12.59 | Legorol | they assembled a bunch of addons and configured it |
| 02:13.07 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 02:13.09 | Legorol | i don't like it when the language implies that they are the creators |
| 02:13.17 | Legorol | there is much more work on the part of the addon authors |
| 02:13.29 | Legorol | don't get me wrong, there is work involved in configuring a set of addons so that they are nice together |
| 02:13.38 | Legorol | but it's like as if i said: |
| 02:13.51 | Legorol | look, i got this PC i have here running with an Operating System, aren't i cool? |
| 02:14.03 | Legorol | and i did that by getting this CD that says Microsoft Windows on it, and i installed it |
| 02:14.20 | Cairenn | which is why our compilation section says that you are supposed to give credit to the author's whose mods you are using in your compilation ... |
| 02:14.27 | Legorol | ok nvm me, i'm just rambling :-) |
| 02:14.44 | Cairenn | well then, nvm me, I'm just agreeing with you |
| 02:14.51 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 02:16.16 | Legorol | i swear my played time, though significant, dwarves in comparison to the amount of time i spent on IRC |
| 02:17.49 | SP|Sorren | is there a way to track how often you're on irc? :p |
| 02:18.06 | Cairenn | god I hope not :p |
| 02:18.12 | Legorol | i don't wanna know.. |
| 02:18.32 | Legorol | it'd be hard to have a meaningful measure though |
| 02:18.42 | Legorol | i tend to keep my mIRC running all the time |
| 02:18.45 | Legorol | even if i'm not chatting |
| 02:19.32 | Cairenn | although maybe if I tracked the amount of time I put in on the various channels along with the time I put in on the various forums, as well as our four sites ... perhaps someone might be willing to pay me something resembling some form of a salary :p |
| 02:21.10 | Cairenn | later Iriel :) |
| 02:23.22 | Legorol | lol, a guy just came into auctioneer's channel |
| 02:23.26 | Legorol | he said auctioneer is not working |
| 02:23.34 | Legorol | i told him to go check on the addons list on char select |
| 02:23.37 | Legorol | he did, it was there |
| 02:23.41 | Legorol | he logged back in, and now it's working |
| 02:23.49 | Legorol | so he was grateful to me that i fixed it for him :D |
| 02:23.59 | Cairenn | probably wasn't logged all the way out when he installed :p |
| 02:24.01 | Legorol | i suspect he installed it without restarting wow |
| 02:24.09 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 02:24.18 | Legorol | well, sometimes you get to be a hero the easy way :D |
| 02:24.54 | Cairenn | feels good, don't it? |
| 02:25.05 | Legorol | hehe |
| 02:25.39 | Legorol | right, need to grind Roc's in Tanaris |
| 02:25.42 | Legorol | stupid cooking quest |
| 02:25.44 | Cairenn | so, anyone able to recommend a good shrink? I think I need one .... I'm trying to tackle cleaning up that stupid FAQ thread :p |
| 02:26.04 | Legorol | hehe |
| 02:26.50 | Legorol | btw, i never said this, but i'm very proud you used my "macros, scripts, addons etc." explanation text right at the start |
| 02:26.56 | Legorol | Q: No, really. What the heck are macros and addons? |
| 02:29.00 | Cairenn | The stuff from the Wiki? about scripts and macros? |
| 02:29.07 | Cairenn | you wrote that part, did you? |
| 02:29.51 | Cairenn | well, it's nicely written, so why not? |
| 02:30.42 | Legorol | hehe fair enough |
| 02:30.50 | Legorol | i like to indulge in the glory of my fame ;-) |
| 02:31.10 | Legorol | get so little of it these days |
| 02:31.14 | Legorol | gotta be happy about the little things |
| 02:31.22 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:31.57 | Legorol | btw, is it just me, but i seem to enter combat and stay stuck in it whenever i cross a gate in or out of Gadgetzan |
| 02:31.59 | Legorol | is this a known bug? |
| 02:32.02 | Legorol | (warrior) |
| 02:32.55 | Cairenn | no idea, haven't been there in forever |
| 02:38.02 | Cairenn | errr, Lego? might want to attend to the Cosmos channel .... |
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| 02:41.04 | wowguru-0976 | my game still isnt working |
| 02:41.18 | wowguru-0976 | why do i have to download after clickin restart? |
| 02:42.19 | Guillotine | b/c you're starting from the beginning |
| 02:42.26 | Guillotine | you have to dl every patch since the game came out |
| 02:42.33 | Guillotine | once you've done this once though, you never have to do it again |
| 02:42.49 | Guillotine | of course, that doesn't mean you can connect to the servers and play, but... |
| 02:42.55 | wowguru-0976 | i know but on the client patch it corrupts |
| 02:43.16 | wowguru-0976 | so each time i try to play it goes to the restart and downlaods again |
| 02:43.19 | wowguru-0976 | i dont know how to stop it |
| 02:43.23 | wowguru-0976 | i just want to play |
| 02:43.26 | wowguru-0976 | this my first time |
| 02:44.11 | wowguru-0976 | i downloaded the client patch from this site it did go further it went to 80 suthing % |
| 02:44.16 | wowguru-0976 | instead of 25 % |
| 02:44.21 | wowguru-0976 | but has never finished |
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| 03:23.31 | zeetg | Guillotine, thyey have full patches |
| 03:23.34 | zeetg | that give you a jump |
| 03:26.18 | Guillotine | they do? |
| 03:26.21 | Guillotine | well, I wouldn't know |
| 03:49.06 | Tain | I've grown to like Battlestar Galactica. |
| 03:56.58 | Crispix | is Cairenn still awake? |
| 03:57.02 | Cairenn | yup |
| 03:57.11 | Crispix | una momenta :D |
| 03:58.16 | Crispix | http://andy.hadagoodday.com/images/wowscreenshots/CrispixUIInUse.jpg |
| 03:58.41 | Crispix | The only thing I wish I could change is where that 'info' bubble appears (where it says Snowpaw) |
| 03:59.08 | Crispix | maybe move my casting bar a bit, or remove it entirely |
| 03:59.31 | Cairenn | get a tooltip mod ... I personally like TipBuddy: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4017 |
| 03:59.38 | Crispix | I used that... |
| 03:59.49 | Crispix | didn't like where it positioned the tip on the cursor |
| 03:59.57 | Cairenn | so change it :p |
| 04:00.01 | Crispix | maybe just move it up above my bags.... |
| 04:00.02 | Crispix | ya know? |
| 04:01.01 | Cairenn | and if you want a standalone to move your casting bar, check out eCastingBar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4268 |
| 04:01.12 | Crispix | Was just looking for that :) |
| 04:01.22 | Crispix | can E-casting bar .. hide things? |
| 04:01.29 | Crispix | like.. hide the original? |
| 04:01.41 | Cairenn | do believe so, check the write up :p |
| 04:01.53 | Cairenn | and, like the layout, nice work |
| 04:02.00 | Crispix | Thanks :D |
| 04:02.10 | Crispix | That one thing with the tip.. I could fix... |
| 04:02.20 | Crispix | maybe shrink down the xp bar and put my casting bar ontop of it |
| 04:02.23 | Crispix | or below it |
| 04:04.04 | Crispix | Gotta find a way how to move that 'snowpaw' window.... |
| 04:04.18 | Crispix | the Team pictures thing is MUCH better |
| 04:05.15 | Cairenn | there's other options for where to place it, via TipBuddy, doesn't have to be on the cursor :p |
| 04:05.37 | Cairenn | I always attach it to the tipbuddy anchor, then place the anchor where I want it |
| 04:05.48 | Cairenn | then hide the anchor again |
| 04:06.30 | Crispix | it doesnt?! |
| 04:06.39 | Cairenn | doesn't what? |
| 04:06.47 | Crispix | doesn't have to be on the cursor? |
| 04:06.52 | Cairenn | duh, no |
| 04:06.54 | Cairenn | :p |
| 04:06.55 | Crispix | so I can move that lil window that bothers me oh so much? |
| 04:06.58 | Crispix | SWEET! |
| 04:07.04 | Cairenn | get tip buddy |
| 04:07.21 | Cairenn | open config panel (icon is on the Blizz Main Menu window) |
| 04:07.22 | Tain | Or tipster. |
| 04:07.24 | Cairenn | set up how you like |
| 04:07.30 | Cairenn | or tipster |
| 04:07.31 | Cairenn | or |
| 04:07.32 | Cairenn | or |
| 04:07.39 | Tain | Or tipaholic |
| 04:07.46 | Cairenn | I just know tipbuddy because it's the one I happen to be using :p |
| 04:07.50 | Crispix | whats tipaholic? |
| 04:09.14 | Tain | I made it up. |
| 04:09.33 | Crispix | :O! |
| 04:10.06 | Tain | Or tippecanoe |
| 04:10.20 | Cairenn | lol Tain |
| 04:12.17 | Kremonte | wait wait |
| 04:12.20 | Kremonte | cairenn does faces now? |
| 04:12.21 | Kremonte | wtf |
| 04:12.58 | Cairenn | Kremonte: ? |
| 04:13.12 | Kremonte | <Cairenn> :p |
| 04:13.23 | Kremonte | that's so unprofessional! |
| 04:13.50 | Cairenn | which is part of why you guys love me so ... I'm a regular person :p |
| 04:13.51 | Kremonte | (hey, hey, i'm trying to make conversation here, the http://www.newegg.com/CustomerService/TrackOrder.asp?Trackingnumber=1ZW098Y01332505234 anticipation is killing me) |
| 04:14.04 | Kremonte | hehe |
| 04:15.48 | Kremonte | so |
| 04:16.28 | Cairenn | Kremonte: sorry, preoccupied with trying to redo that stupid FAQ |
| 04:17.24 | Kremonte | fix the Weclome! |
| 04:17.59 | Cairenn | that's not me! |
| 04:18.02 | Cairenn | I can't fix it! |
| 04:18.04 | Cairenn | :p |
| 04:18.07 | Kremonte | yes you can! |
| 04:18.11 | Cairenn | no, I can't |
| 04:18.13 | Kremonte | you've got the POWER |
| 04:18.16 | Cairenn | Dolby has to |
| 04:18.44 | Kremonte | PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT |
| 04:18.49 | Kremonte | walk along the razor's edge! |
| 04:21.23 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 04:23.44 | Kremonte | adding \n's to chat is so fun |
| 04:25.07 | Tain | for i = 1, 100 do print ('\\n') end |
| 04:25.26 | Kremonte | no, IN chat |
| 04:25.33 | Tain | Whatever! |
| 04:26.00 | Kremonte | i can do |n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n|n and pwn IF's chat boxes |
| 04:26.43 | Kremonte | but i wont cause i value my account |
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| 04:56.26 | SP|Sorren | quick sort isn't quick enough! |
| 04:56.30 | SP|Sorren | :< |
| 04:56.38 | SP|Sorren | i wonder if heap sort is faster |
| 04:56.45 | Wobin_ | quicksort? |
| 04:56.53 | SP|Sorren | c's qsort |
| 04:56.53 | SP|Sorren | ;P |
| 04:57.02 | Wobin_ | oh =P |
| 04:57.28 | SP|Sorren | my programming assignment is being graded on speed as well how well it solves the problem |
| 04:57.36 | SP|Sorren | and my program solves the problem well, but its sloooow |
| 04:57.41 | SP|Sorren | and my bottleneck is qsort! |
| 04:58.16 | Wobin_ | perhaps there is a better way to get the info? |
| 04:58.30 | SP|Sorren | hm? |
| 04:58.55 | SP|Sorren | there is probably a better way to present the info to qsort, but then i have to restructure my whole program 8) |
| 04:59.02 | Wobin_ | I'm thinking if it's graded on speed, they're under the impression that the program can be done fast |
| 04:59.12 | SP|Sorren | well |
| 04:59.16 | SP|Sorren | it takes about 0.45 seconds |
| 04:59.21 | SP|Sorren | and the professors takes 0.27 seconds |
| 04:59.25 | SP|Sorren | so clearly im missing out on something |
| 04:59.45 | SP|Sorren | 0.35 of the 0.45 seconds in my program is in sorting however ;/ |
| 05:00.57 | SP|Sorren | jeez i feel so dirty, im printing out a paper i wrote earlier for reference :( |
| 05:01.08 | SP|Sorren | i dont remember anything that i wrote ;( |
| 05:02.52 | Wobin_ | What's the assignment? |
| 05:05.48 | Kremonte | the ironforge elevator is still in the game o_O |
| 05:06.03 | Wobin_ | We have an IF elevator? |
| 05:06.07 | Kremonte | had :) |
| 05:06.16 | Wobin_ | Where did it go? |
| 05:06.24 | Wobin_ | Did it cause horrific deaths like the UC ones? =) |
| 05:06.27 | Kremonte | IF used to be velly different |
| 05:06.33 | Kremonte | there were many a bridge |
| 05:06.42 | Kremonte | old IF was easily accessable, and there was, in fact, an elevator |
| 05:06.50 | Wobin_ | yay for more lag falling into the pit =) |
| 05:29.50 | Tem | Kremonte: where did the elevator go? |
| 05:30.12 | Tem | is it still in operation and just inaccessable? |
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| 05:46.34 | Wobin_ | Hehe I read that as Dolby-wolby =) |
| 05:46.59 | Dolby-wowi | lol |
| 05:49.08 | Cairenn | that suits ;) |
| 05:54.16 | Cairenn | anyone want to help me finish sorting this out? redoing the FAQ |
| 05:54.27 | Wobin_ | Whatcha need? |
| 05:55.03 | Cairenn | my head examined, for trying to tackle this thing again? |
| 05:56.02 | Cairenn | heh |
| 05:57.50 | Dolby-wowi | Q: Does Cairenn look like her Avatar in RL. A: No, She looks much better. |
| 05:57.53 | Dolby-wowi | that help? |
| 05:58.19 | Wobin_ | possibly better taste in makeup |
| 05:58.30 | Wobin_ | I mean, what were the WoW people thinking with those eyebrows? |
| 06:00.06 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:01.10 | Wobin_ | What sorta help do you need with the FAQ? |
| 06:02.13 | Cairenn | Gimme a couple to get the latest version uploaded, then you can have a look through ... I need to finish sorting out what goes where, how to title the various sections |
| 06:04.18 | Cairenn | etc |
| 06:04.33 | Cairenn | and I know there is some more stuff that needs to be added, but I'm going cross-eyed |
| 06:12.54 | Wobin_ | minor typo in the first post, "with answer /b], " |
| 06:13.47 | Wobin_ | And I think there's an extra [b] just before the Note to All Posters |
| 06:14.16 | Cairenn | hang on, still posting |
| 06:14.42 | Wobin_ | k |
| 06:18.00 | Cairenn | I know I have to go through and do all the formatting, but I just need to get it sorted out and labeled and stuff |
| 06:18.15 | Wobin_ | rightio |
| 06:18.20 | Cairenn | pretty easy to see which stuff I need to get sorted out yet |
| 06:22.20 | Cairenn | whew, posted |
| 06:22.28 | Wobin_ | hehe, I have to say that Shou's expansion on the 'black box' analogy is brilliant =) |
| 06:22.47 | Cairenn | formatting (bold, italics, underlining, etc) I'll get to after |
| 06:24.57 | Cairenn | Once I get it all nicely figured out, I get to clean it up on the Blizz forum |
| 06:25.15 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 06:25.16 | Cairenn | and then I may actually turn it into the FAQ on our site, and remove it as a thread |
| 06:25.36 | Wobin_ | It'll be a lifesaver on the Blizz forums |
| 06:25.49 | Cairenn | it's just the old one is badly out of date, I've just been trying to gird myself up to tackling it again |
| 06:25.59 | Cairenn | it's been there all along |
| 06:26.07 | Cairenn | just try to get folks to bother reading it :p |
| 06:26.19 | Wobin_ | True =) |
| 06:28.42 | Wobin_ | I'd say you could put in a 'General Blizzard UI problems' section for all the 'delete WTF' type questions |
| 06:28.53 | Wobin_ | -Blizzard |
| 06:31.17 | Cairenn | hey Kremonte, you still there? |
| 06:32.53 | Cairenn | Kremonte: well, when you see this ... the "Welcome" message is fixed :) |
| 06:33.02 | Wobin_ | =) |
| 06:33.28 | Wobin_ | I knew I should have said "Weclome Dolby!" when he logged in =) |
| 06:35.41 | Wobin_ | Ow. Argent Dawn really has a 73%Alliance =\ |
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| 06:37.35 | AnduinLothar | Muah ha ha! Now there are two! |
| 06:37.52 | Wobin_ | The master and the apprentice? |
| 06:40.51 | Cairenn | okay, I can't stare at that FAQ any longer tonight |
| 06:41.13 | Cairenn | thinking some sleep might be in order |
| 06:41.28 | AnduinLothar | sleep? what's that? |
| 06:42.32 | Cairenn | that which I'm about to go try to get some of |
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| 07:24.48 | Kremonte | the welcome is fixed? took you long enough, dolby! |
| 07:24.52 | Kremonte | gosh. ^_~ |
| 07:25.20 | Wobin_ | ooh. |
| 07:25.23 | Wobin_ | snow predicted on monday |
| 07:25.24 | Kremonte | purl, onjoin dolby-wowi Weclome, Dolby! |
| 07:25.25 | purl | Kremonte: ok |
| 07:25.34 | Wobin_ | hehe Krem |
| 07:25.35 | Cairenn | Kremonte: ! |
| 07:25.40 | Kremonte | purl, no, onjoin dolby-wowi Weclome, Dobly! |
| 07:25.53 | Kremonte | fine, purl |
| 07:26.00 | Cairenn | purl, forget onjoin dolbly-wowi |
| 07:26.00 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'onjoin dolbly-wowi' to forget, Cairenn |
| 07:26.11 | Cairenn | grrrrrr |
| 07:26.16 | Kremonte | dolbly? you have Doblyitsu!' |
| 07:26.34 | Cairenn | purl, forget onjoin dolby-wowi |
| 07:26.34 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'onjoin dolby-wowi' to forget, Cairenn |
| 07:26.43 | Kremonte | wft, mate! |
| 07:26.43 | Cairenn | damnit |
| 07:26.49 | Kremonte | purl is silly |
| 07:26.55 | Cairenn | Kremonte: take it back out before I have to hurt you :p |
| 07:27.04 | Kremonte | i don't know how :-) |
| 07:27.13 | Kremonte | score one for the kremster |
| 07:27.16 | Cairenn | ~whaleslap Kremonte |
| 07:27.17 | purl | ACTION beats Kremonte upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 07:27.35 | Wobin_ | purl forget onjoin Dolby-wowi |
| 07:27.35 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'onjoin dolby-wowi' to forget, Wobin_ |
| 07:27.36 | Cairenn | Wobin_: snow here any time now ... another 10+ cm ... /sigh |
| 07:27.39 | Kremonte | ~lobotomy Cairenn |
| 07:27.41 | purl | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on Cairenn |
| 07:27.42 | Kremonte | ~botsnack |
| 07:27.42 | purl | Kremonte: :) |
| 07:27.48 | Cairenn | ~lart Kremonte |
| 07:27.49 | Kremonte | purl loves me more! hah! |
| 07:28.19 | Kremonte | you got DBZ'd |
| 07:28.31 | Kremonte | wait, if i'm in the closet |
| 07:28.36 | Kremonte | that means i have to.. come out of the closet D: |
| 07:28.48 | Cairenn | no comment |
| 07:29.06 | Kremonte | hehe |
| 07:29.06 | Wobin_ | Can you see Narnia? =P |
| 07:29.19 | Kremonte | no, i killall'd narnia |
| 07:30.30 | Wobin_ | purl onjoin -dolby-wowi |
| 07:30.30 | purl | Wobin_: ok |
| 07:30.37 | Kremonte | damn you |
| 07:30.38 | Kremonte | ; ; |
| 07:30.49 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 07:30.54 | Kremonte | the secret is out! |
| 07:31.01 | Wobin_ | go go purl help =) |
| 07:31.04 | Wobin_ | ~botsnack |
| 07:31.04 | purl | aw, gee, Wobin_ |
| 07:31.10 | Kremonte | purl, lart wobin_ |
| 07:31.21 | Wobin_ | omg I'm in IF |
| 07:31.59 | Kremonte | you're going to lag for 150 years, man |
| 07:31.59 | Wobin_ | scary |
| 07:32.18 | Wobin_ | purl, unlobotomy Kremonte |
| 07:32.53 | Wobin_ | aw =P |
| 07:32.55 | Kremonte | o_O |
| 07:33.15 | Wobin_ | purl, lobotomy kremonte |
| 07:33.16 | purl | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on kremonte |
| 07:33.21 | Wobin_ | purl, unlobotomy Kremonte |
| 07:33.34 | Wobin_ | meh =P |
| 07:33.44 | Wobin_ | purl, lart kremonte |
| 07:34.17 | Wobin_ | contralto? o_O |
| 07:34.36 | Kremonte | the lowest female voice; the term itself comes from two Italian words which signify against ("contra") the high ("alto") voice. In baroque operas, the contralto generally represented a certain character type on stage: either comic (a sort of female basso buffo), or spooky and other worldly, or just plain matronly. Marian Anderson and Maureen Forrester have been legendary contraltos in the concert and operatic world |
| 07:34.50 | zeetg | holy shit |
| 07:34.51 | zeetg | http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/5127/33_Years_Without_Sleep |
| 07:34.53 | zeetg | i wish i could do that |
| 07:34.55 | Wobin_ | well, yes, I know -what- it is =P Just... why? =P |
| 07:36.34 | Kremonte | wow |
| 07:36.36 | Kremonte | ...wow ._. |
| 07:36.40 | Kremonte | 33 YEARs |
| 07:36.59 | Wobin_ | ... on one hand, that's kinda cool... on the other... I -like- sleeping =P |
| 07:38.15 | Kremonte | i dislike sleeping |
| 07:58.45 | Kremonte | wow... i just shat myself in disgust |
| 07:59.01 | Kremonte | the first GM warlock on our server just dueled me. he double trinket... drain life'd... |
| 07:59.08 | Shadowd | bwahahahaha |
| 07:59.18 | Shadowd | hahaha |
| 07:59.24 | Shadowd | how much did it do? |
| 07:59.28 | Kremonte | 400/tic |
| 07:59.31 | Kremonte | he used all his dots too |
| 08:00.09 | Shadowd | I guess I could sort of see that being useful considering it's harder to cast a shadowbolt. But with deathcoil warlocks can kill most classes so that wouldn't make sense |
| 08:00.22 | Kremonte | deathcoil isn't an end-all |
| 08:00.30 | Kremonte | succubus whores can beat mose classes |
| 08:01.10 | Shadowd | It's pretty end-all if they use it at the right time |
| 08:01.31 | Shadowd | Doesn't succubus prevent then from DoTing anyway? |
| 08:01.45 | Kremonte | interrupts spells |
| 08:02.00 | Kremonte | that's pretty much what i do when i'm using succubus |
| 08:02.08 | Kremonte | i'm full destruction so i go pretty all out |
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| 08:02.32 | Cairenn | Esamynn! thanks hun ;) |
| 08:02.43 | Kremonte | like, i start out with immo conflag seduce, sb immo corruption seduce to keep them from attacking for a second, searing pain while they can't do anything, conflag and theyre usually dead |
| 08:02.44 | Esamynn | that copy is better I take it |
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| 08:03.16 | Shadowd | In terms of duels, the bad warlocks don't put them on stay, so i can usually charge + bloodrage + fear and have about 8 seconds |
| 08:03.58 | Cairenn | Esamynn: yup, but I was thanking you for the silliness on that STUPID thread on the Blizz forum ... made me laugh, which I needed :) |
| 08:04.14 | Esamynn | ahh, you're welcome ;) |
| 08:05.28 | Esamynn | I was with you on that one, I just looked at that guy's post and went what???!!!!?! |
| 08:05.38 | Cairenn | yeah, really |
| 08:05.49 | Cairenn | it's like ... that has WHAT to do with this? |
| 08:05.54 | Esamynn | no kidding |
| 08:06.02 | Esamynn | and then the Troll, that was too perfect ;) |
| 08:06.07 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 08:06.18 | Cairenn | oh, but hey, did you see? Iriel is a troll now! |
| 08:06.27 | Esamynn | oh no, I didn't see that |
| 08:06.47 | Cairenn | oh yeah ... hang on, lemme find for you |
| 08:07.37 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=325676&tmp=1#post325676 |
| 08:07.47 | Cairenn | Iriel is a troll, uh huh |
| 08:10.07 | Esamynn | omg, LOL |
| 08:10.11 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 08:10.25 | Esamynn | from a level 11 no less |
| 08:10.54 | Cairenn | level 11 or level 60 would make no difference, the person obviously has absolutely no clue whatsoever |
| 08:11.24 | Cairenn | I mean, that would be like saying that Slouken is a troll ... gawd |
| 08:11.39 | Esamynn | yah, pretty much |
| 08:11.45 | futrtrubl | "her" in responce to Iriel's posts? |
| 08:12.04 | Cairenn | futrtrubl: ? |
| 08:12.34 | Esamynn | ahh damnit, why the hell do items I want from BWL ALWAYS drop when I'm sitting outside... :( |
| 08:12.40 | Cairenn | :( |
| 08:12.54 | Wob | futrtrubl: the avatar is a female one |
| 08:13.14 | futrtrubl | ahh |
| 08:13.16 | futrtrubl | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.17 | futrtrubl | Because she knows the pitfalls of allowing such support of a 3rd party device? |
| 08:13.25 | Cairenn | ah |
| 08:13.34 | futrtrubl | I guess I know too much |
| 08:13.47 | Wob | I should make a Wobin posting alt |
| 08:13.50 | Cairenn | well, in context, "her" is not incorrect, since *Iriel* is actually female |
| 08:14.35 | futrtrubl | in more context it is not, I have to reming myself of what the poster knoes |
| 08:14.52 | Cairenn | the rl person playing the character is male, but the character is female |
| 08:15.01 | futrtrubl | remind* and knows* |
| 08:15.22 | Wob | yeah, with the UI forum, level shown for the poster doesn't really equal knowledge =) |
| 08:15.36 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 08:15.37 | Esamynn | yep, we've proven that time and again |
| 08:15.44 | Cairenn | but words posted frequently does .... |
| 08:15.55 | Wob | lrn2play noob and post with your main =P |
| 08:16.09 | Cairenn | and that particular person is obviously completely and utterly clueless |
| 08:16.14 | Wob | man, I can't even get the spelling (or lack thereof) right for that |
| 08:17.07 | Cairenn | Wob, that's because you actually know how to spell, so deliberately messing it up takes conscious effort |
| 08:17.20 | Wob | *emopout* |
| 08:17.52 | Cairenn | that's why I'm not any good at using leet, even though I can read it ... |
| 08:18.09 | Wob | although, looking at the links on that thread, the http://artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/ looks quite nifty |
| 08:18.36 | Wob | not sure just -what- I'd use it for... but... it's got that 'ooh shiny' factor going for it |
| 08:19.07 | Wob | I mean, it essentially means you have to relearn how to touchtype for each layout you use... |
| 08:19.24 | futrtrubl | yay Firefly |
| 08:19.32 | Cairenn | :) futrtrubl |
| 08:21.07 | Cairenn | yeah, I've been keeping my eye on the optimus keyboard |
| 08:21.25 | Wob | hehe " Hey I play a priest and Blizz has seen fit for me to whack a mole all the time" |
| 08:21.30 | Wob | I so feel like that sometimes =) |
| 08:21.40 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 08:22.18 | Cairenn | Wob: but same problem with it as with the G15 that will prevent me from ever getting one .... I am SO used to my ergo, I simply can't stand a "normal" keyboard any more |
| 08:23.12 | Wob | hrm.. I've always considered getting an ergo |
| 08:24.05 | Wobin_ | I wonder if they'll ever come out with a laptop with an ergo keyboard... |
| 08:24.13 | Esamynn | I hate Ergo keyboards |
| 08:24.14 | Cairenn | I could wish |
| 08:24.27 | Wobin_ | Have you seen that projectable laser keyboard? |
| 08:24.40 | Esamynn | I'd get a G15, but they are a tad expensive for my tastes, I only want the extra keys, not all the other bells and whistles |
| 08:24.51 | futrtrubl | Wobin_, it's a lov hate thing so I doubt it. plus the lost space with the split |
| 08:25.08 | Cairenn | that's (one of) the major reason(s) I haven't gotten myself a laptop |
| 08:25.23 | Cairenn | yeah, seen the projectable, same problem, it's standard layout |
| 08:25.40 | Wobin_ | Although, with that, surely they can change the layout just as easily |
| 08:26.00 | Wobin_ | I guess my biggest problem with that would be lack of feedback |
| 08:26.06 | Wobin_ | (The projectable one that is) |
| 08:26.16 | futrtrubl | what's the keyboard where you can move the keys around? |
| 08:26.29 | Wobin_ | I've seen it recently... |
| 08:26.29 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 08:26.49 | Wobin_ | I've always wondered if I could teach myself how to use a dvorak keyboard |
| 08:27.00 | Wobin_ | apparantly you can type faster on them |
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| 08:31.32 | Wobin_ | Take my tears and that's not really... aaaallll |
| 08:31.47 | Wobin_ | (or is it "oohh"? =P) |
| 08:32.38 | futrtrubl | not LIVING.. ohh... tainted love... |
| 08:33.02 | Wobin_ | hehe =) |
| 08:33.22 | Wobin_ | I love this radio station =) |
| 08:33.32 | futrtrubl | which? |
| 08:33.39 | Wobin_ | I have to stop myself from singing outloud and freaking out my roommate =P |
| 08:33.49 | Wobin_ | Sky.FM Best of the 80s |
| 08:34.08 | futrtrubl | sky.... I miss sky |
| 08:34.09 | Wobin_ | http://64.236.34.196:80/stream/1013 |
| 08:36.27 | Cairenn | if your roommates get freaked out by a little bit of singing, then they should probably seek counselling :p |
| 08:36.49 | Kremonte | cairenn... |
| 08:36.51 | Kremonte | it's EIGHTIES music |
| 08:36.56 | Kremonte | that's like from 40 years ago |
| 08:36.57 | Cairenn | Kremonte: your point? |
| 08:37.02 | Cairenn | FU :p |
| 08:37.07 | Kremonte | ^________________________^ |
| 08:37.10 | Wobin_ | 40! =P |
| 08:37.17 | Kremonte | sorry |
| 08:37.18 | Kremonte | 50 |
| 08:37.44 | [MoonWolf] | what happend to math ? |
| 08:37.56 | Wobin_ | The younger generation never learnt it right =P |
| 08:38.19 | Wobin_ | Right. Juvie, for you =P |
| 08:38.27 | futrtrubl | 80s realy shouldn't be my time... but then again, Jamaica is behind the times |
| 08:38.33 | [MoonWolf] | now Kremonte done and did it. |
| 08:38.52 | Wobin_ | 80's were a fantastic time |
| 08:40.27 | futrtrubl | agreed. Boney M rocks |
| 08:42.25 | Wobin_ | ra ra Rasputin! Lover of the Russuan Queen, There was a cat that really was gone! |
| 08:42.49 | Wobin_ | Ra Ra Rasputin! Russia's greatest love machine! It was a shame how he carried on! |
| 08:46.51 | futrtrubl | SHot him 'till he was dead.... |
| 08:47.38 | futrtrubl | I am actually suprised someone knows Boney M |
| 08:48.04 | Wobin_ | Aw =) No Woman No Cry! |
| 08:48.12 | Wobin_ | How can you not know Boney M =) |
| 08:48.25 | futrtrubl | Ma Baker is also a favorite |
| 08:48.37 | Wobin_ | Rivers of Babylon! |
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| 08:48.53 | futrtrubl | Brown Girl in the Ring |
| 08:49.22 | zeetg | Ok all |
| 08:49.26 | zeetg | I got a new dev for the patcher |
| 08:49.31 | zeetg | os if anyone has suggestions, nows the time |
| 08:49.47 | zeetg | one of the main things we'll be incorporating is customizable RSS feeds instead of the news |
| 08:49.53 | zeetg | and its being rebuilt from scratch, just fyi :P |
| 08:50.12 | futrtrubl | they did do the best Rivers of Babylon though, Nyahbingy only think they did better |
| 08:51.35 | futrtrubl | cool |
| 08:54.17 | futrtrubl | If anyone is interested in Jamaican nightlife, http://www.edowner.net/mc |
| 09:02.12 | Wobin_ | woo. Boney M's Greatest Hits on torrent =P |
| 09:08.39 | futrtrubl | g'night Cairenn|sleep |
| 09:08.46 | Cairenn|sleep | night futrtrubl |
| 09:08.46 | futrtrubl | g'night all |
| 09:08.57 | Wobin_ | night Futle =) |
| 09:09.35 | futr-sleep | futle.... :~} |
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| 10:16.51 | dukeku | dfasdfjasl |
| 10:17.11 | Wobin_ | lkjsdfwelke? |
| 10:19.30 | ckknight | kerblam! |
| 10:21.04 | Wobin_ | crumbs! |
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| 10:33.28 | Shouryuu | RaWr |
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| 10:54.52 | Kremonte | rawr |
| 10:55.11 | Kremonte | krem lacks the 6am entertainment required |
| 10:57.13 | wereHamster | hey folks.. how was the last week? any good or bad news? |
| 10:57.34 | Kremonte | horrible news. there is no G15 support om WoW! |
| 10:57.46 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 10:57.57 | Wobin_ | Oh no! |
| 11:13.05 | wereHamster | nothing more? there's usually tons of good news in one week :) |
| 11:13.36 | Wobin_ | um. |
| 11:13.49 | Wobin_ | Dolby fixed the typo in the front page of the portals? |
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| 11:17.24 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:18.43 | Shouryuu | ok |
| 11:19.14 | Wobin_ | That's it? Just a poke? Not even dinner and a movie first? |
| 11:19.16 | Shouryuu | I have two accounts, on one of those there is a 22 druid, on the other my 60 priest. Is there a way to power lvl to druid using the priest, or is the amount of xp I'm gong to get just laughable? |
| 11:19.26 | Shouryuu | sowwy =( |
| 11:19.41 | Wobin_ | You could healbot I guess |
| 11:19.46 | Wobin_ | Just don't party them together |
| 11:19.56 | Wobin_ | have the priest on permafollow |
| 11:20.04 | Kremonte | if i could change the alphabet |
| 11:20.07 | Kremonte | i'd but F and U together |
| 11:20.22 | Wobin_ | and setup hotkeys or something to heal your druid |
| 11:20.32 | Kremonte | actually wobin, i don't think you get full XP |
| 11:20.32 | Shouryuu | is that doable on *one* keyboard? |
| 11:20.39 | Kremonte | Shouryuu: USB switch |
| 11:20.43 | Shouryuu | ok |
| 11:20.52 | Kremonte | but uh, that's like $15usd |
| 11:20.54 | Wobin_ | yeah? hm |
| 11:21.10 | Kremonte | btw, someone speed up time |
| 11:21.18 | Shouryuu | yeah I guessed, and I lived in Asia, so I go back there often, and must be worth 5$usd there |
| 11:21.20 | Wobin_ | I thought as long as you tagged the mob, the xp was yours, as long as it's just healing |
| 11:21.25 | Kremonte | my mobo has been in transit to IL from CA for 9hrs |
| 11:21.33 | Kremonte | nope, wobin, not from what i remember |
| 11:21.34 | Shouryuu | well the thing is druids don't need healing =( that much |
| 11:21.48 | Kremonte | yeah, plvling a druid is pointless |
| 11:22.00 | Kremonte | kill in cat or bear and heal up, your mp will regen regardless |
| 11:22.00 | Wobin_ | Just grind =P |
| 11:22.09 | Shouryuu | grinding = the sucks |
| 11:22.24 | Shouryuu | Until you get to 40-50 it's just boring |
| 11:22.33 | Shouryuu | then you can start instancing a bit |
| 11:23.01 | Shouryuu | But I don't have the courage to stand infront of my computer for 10 days pressing maul,maul,maul human form, heal, bear form, maul... |
| 11:23.01 | ckknight | plvling? |
| 11:23.05 | Shouryuu | power lvling |
| 11:23.08 | ckknight | ah |
| 11:25.49 | Shouryuu | so the conclsion is just grind |
| 11:25.49 | Shouryuu | ugh |
| 11:25.52 | Shouryuu | the shucks |
| 11:25.55 | Shouryuu | *teh sorry |
| 11:26.04 | Wobin_ | yep |
| 11:26.11 | ckknight | human form? |
| 11:26.18 | ckknight | :-P |
| 11:26.54 | Shouryuu | or however you call that :P |
| 11:26.57 | Shouryuu | caster form |
| 11:26.58 | Shouryuu | fine |
| 11:27.09 | Shouryuu | ((smartass)) |
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| 11:27.45 | Shouryuu | Well I'm out children |
| 11:27.46 | Shouryuu | so |
| 11:27.48 | Shouryuu | rawr out |
| 11:34.21 | Wobin_ | hrm, the problem with downloading old games to play, is that the utter fantasticness of the game you recall is always blurred by the passage of time... |
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| 13:01.17 | sarf|WoW | Wobin_> Easy fix: blur your present memory and senses with alcohol. |
| 13:02.06 | Wobin_ | hehe would definitely make playing the games more fun |
| 13:02.23 | Wobin_ | Although.... I don't want to imagine how SystemShock2 would be like under the influence =P |
| 13:02.33 | Wobin_ | And now... |
| 13:02.45 | Wobin_ | Through the power of SSH tunnelling through australia, I can connect to WoW! |
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| 13:04.27 | Shouryuu | rawr |
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| 13:12.48 | sarf|WoW | Grats :) |
| 13:15.10 | wereHamster | what addon is the minimap/player HP/mana bars in this screenshot: http://www.klngarthur.com/images/WoWScrnShot_021006_152459.png ? |
| 13:17.02 | Shouryuu | must be some discord stuff |
| 13:20.58 | Shouryuu | w00t another *UI hacked my accountzz ZOMG run! * thred |
| 13:21.07 | Shouryuu | s/thred/thread/ |
| 13:21.17 | Shouryuu | ~cookie |
| 13:21.47 | Shouryuu | ok that made no sens |
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| 13:44.32 | Shouryuu | hummmm nuggets |
| 13:51.16 | Shouryuu | hummmm ham |
| 13:55.39 | Wobin_ | ham nuggets? |
| 13:55.42 | Wobin_ | ew |
| 13:56.27 | Shouryuu | those this macro work |
| 13:56.29 | Shouryuu | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=325024&p=1&tmp=1#post325024 |
| 13:56.37 | Shouryuu | I though you couldn't link items via macros... |
| 13:57.36 | sarf|WoW | Yeah |
| 13:57.55 | sarf|WoW | But you can send an item link if you know how |
| 13:58.08 | Shouryuu | so that doesn't work |
| 13:58.13 | sarf|WoW | It works |
| 13:58.37 | Shouryuu | Wow, I've always thought you couldn't |
| 13:59.01 | Shouryuu | So I could just always place my items in certain bag slots, and just spam a WTS macro? |
| 13:59.20 | Shouryuu | *my on sale items in certain bag slots |
| 14:24.02 | Shouryuu | anyone here know Sousei no Aquarion? |
| 14:24.45 | Wobin_ | Animal, vegetable or mineral? |
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| 14:35.16 | Shouryuu | anime :P |
| 14:35.31 | Shouryuu | it's kinda cool |
| 14:35.42 | Shouryuu | a nice mix of smooth 3d and drawing |
| 14:36.17 | Shouryuu | It's abit cheesy, it's kinda like transformers, but it's nice |
| 14:54.24 | sarf|WoW | Yes, you could Shouryuu :) |
| 15:08.33 | Shouryuu | Well that's nice to know :p |
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| 15:46.12 | Shouryuu | haha shadow priests can be so dumb... |
| 15:46.38 | Wobin_ | how so? |
| 15:46.49 | Shouryuu | One was whining because MF's base dmg is 75 on the new spec, and on his talents the base dmg is 82 |
| 15:47.03 | Shouryuu | so he yealed "Stelh nerf!! GG bliz! ZOMG SUX" |
| 15:47.17 | Shouryuu | and it turns out he had the darkness talent, +10% shadow dmg :p |
| 15:48.39 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 16:01.13 | Shouryuu | why do druids complain because priests can heal better? |
| 16:02.13 | Wobin_ | They lack the understanding of being a joat? |
| 16:02.25 | Tain | They have the brains of a grizzly bear? |
| 16:02.38 | Wobin_ | attention span of a cat? |
| 16:02.45 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 16:03.08 | Shouryuu | druids really make me cry |
| 16:03.20 | Wobin_ | grind damnyou grind =P |
| 16:03.30 | Shouryuu | they probably have the best surivability out there and keep on whining |
| 16:03.31 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 16:03.52 | Wobin_ | I've never found it easy to shift back into caster and heal in time as a druid |
| 16:04.05 | Shouryuu | hehe stil |
| 16:04.10 | Shouryuu | you have a tank form |
| 16:04.15 | Shouryuu | I just have papier mache |
| 16:04.27 | Wobin_ | not -overly- effective though at lower levels |
| 16:04.49 | Tain | I always looked at that as druids having so many options that you have to use strategy and decide what you're doing. |
| 16:04.54 | Shouryuu | but still better than papier macche |
| 16:05.01 | Tain | I do think it's always better to have more options, than less. |
| 16:05.05 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 16:06.03 | Shouryuu | and how does the mana/5sec items work in the 5SRule? |
| 16:06.09 | Shouryuu | they aren't affected? |
| 16:07.25 | Wobin_ | I don't believe so |
| 16:07.38 | Wobin_ | Well I've never noticed it not working |
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| 16:12.47 | Shouryuu | I hate my internet |
| 16:39.04 | Josh|Working | mana/5sec always ticks, no matter what |
| 16:40.08 | Shouryuu | guuud |
| 16:40.24 | Shouryuu | so mana/5sec it is then |
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| 16:46.50 | Shouryuu | let's hope updating my drivers repaired my internet woes |
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| 17:06.48 | sarf|WoW | Wobin_> mana/5s will be fixed to occur in the regular "tick" methinks |
| 17:06.51 | sarf|WoW | What ever that means |
| 17:10.08 | Wobin_ | What's a relatively easy way to earn rankings? |
| 17:11.06 | Shouryuu | there is none |
| 17:11.22 | Shouryuu | break your balls for a few months |
| 17:12.15 | Tain | Hey sarf! I was trying to update from your svn so I could go on a code review spree for an idea on something, and I can never connect. Do you only have it up certain times? |
| 17:13.17 | Tain | Can you do /target self ? Or do you have to /target your charname? |
| 17:15.29 | Tain | Ok, no /target self. Is there any variable to use other than the actual character name? |
| 17:19.53 | Wobin_ | feh. Rebooting. My firewall is complaining at me =( |
| 17:23.17 | Shouryuu | anyone here seen Escaflowne? |
| 17:26.47 | wereHamster | Tain, /script TargetByName(UnitName("player")) |
| 17:27.19 | wereHamster | or /script TargetUnit("player") |
| 17:28.17 | Shouryuu | depends what you want to do |
| 17:29.01 | ckknight | anyone know the color code for the trivial (gray) difficulty? |
| 17:29.54 | wereHamster | QuestDifficultyColor["trivial"] ? |
| 17:30.06 | ckknight | thank you |
| 17:30.23 | Tain | Thanks wereHamster |
| 17:30.46 | Tain | Oh, and does anyone know if files are flushed to disk on zoning like they are on logout or reload? |
| 17:30.57 | wereHamster | try GetDifficultyColor(level) |
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| 17:31.42 | wereHamster | tain, no, only on login or reload |
| 17:32.23 | Tain | Ok. Wonder why I was sure they did on zone. I chalk it up to insanity. |
| 17:32.30 | ckknight | I just wanted to know whether it was 0.5,0.5,0.5 or 0.75,0.75,0.75, etc. |
| 17:32.40 | Wob | It's a common enough reason =) |
| 17:34.32 | Shouryuu | man I'm listening to some old fatboy slim songs |
| 17:34.38 | Shouryuu | soooo damn gooooood |
| 17:34.49 | Tain | heh |
| 17:35.19 | Shouryuu | I'm half dancing, iizzz guuayyyyyy =D |
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| 18:20.16 | sarf|WoW | Tain> Sorry, my HD crashed on Monday - I've yet to reinstall SVN (mostly due to my computer being used for guild TS) |
| 18:21.43 | Cairenn | okay, are you guys contagious or what? that's 2 HD failing, 1 Mobo fried, ummmm there was something else ... |
| 18:22.25 | Cairenn | all within the last week or less |
| 18:22.29 | Shouryuu | well my brother's power supply fried, but his computer was so old, it was bound to happen |
| 18:23.03 | Cairenn | ah, okay, so add one fried power supply to the list ... seriously, you guys are contagious or something ... stay the hell away from my computer :p |
| 18:26.17 | MentalPower | lol |
| 18:26.37 | MentalPower | might as well add my fathers non-booting PC to the list |
| 18:26.51 | Cairenn | geeez, it's a bloody epidemic |
| 18:27.10 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 18:28.06 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 18:28.46 | Cairenn | hey Shouryuu - http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3868 |
| 18:29.06 | Cairenn | u hlp me, kthxbi |
| 18:30.34 | Cairenn | not worrying about formatting (bold, underline, italics) just yet ... just want to get it sorted into the proper places and title the various sections, first :p |
| 18:32.36 | Cairenn | hey Wob, did I see that you got WoW running again finally? |
| 18:32.49 | Wob | yes! =) |
| 18:32.59 | Cairenn | wooooooot! |
| 18:33.19 | Wob | Thanks to some assistance from a friend back in Sydney, I'm SSH tunneling to his machine and then back to the servers =) |
| 18:33.36 | Cairenn | \o/ |
| 18:33.36 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:33.36 | Cairenn | / \ |
| 18:33.46 | Wob | Absolutely =) |
| 18:34.05 | Cairenn | that's very rockin' of your friend :) |
| 18:34.30 | Shouryuu | haha cair the new titles do rock |
| 18:34.36 | Shouryuu | Where? Why? Panic? Run! |
| 18:34.50 | Cairenn | Yeah, well, trying to dumb it down :p |
| 18:35.00 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 18:35.32 | Wob | Tis, he's a smart smart man for working it out =) |
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| 18:43.44 | wereHamster | Cairenn, "Q: I want an aggro meter!", shouldn't that be "a threat meter" ?? |
| 18:44.02 | Cairenn | either or |
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| 18:44.38 | Astryl | Kwak! |
| 18:44.56 | Cairenn | *purr* |
| 18:45.03 | Astryl | There anyone here fluent in any of the foreign wow languages? |
| 18:45.04 | ckknight | *arf* |
| 18:45.22 | Astryl | Or at least able to provide some translations? |
| 18:45.26 | Shouryuu | French |
| 18:45.32 | Astryl | Sweet! |
| 18:45.34 | wereHamster | Cairenn, in your second last post, there is a invalid link to http://www.wowguru.com/ui/wow-scite-lua/ |
| 18:45.37 | Shouryuu | aye =P |
| 18:45.49 | ckknight | I need someone to translate all my BossPanel locals ;-) |
| 18:45.59 | Cairenn | wereHamster: thanks |
| 18:46.38 | Shouryuu | Well hit me with thine translations! |
| 18:46.52 | ckknight | later |
| 18:47.02 | Shouryuu | ok |
| 18:47.23 | ckknight | there's quite a bit, is all |
| 18:47.27 | Shouryuu | I didn't get one =( |
| 18:47.36 | Cairenn | fixed the link |
| 18:47.58 | Astryl | No? Hmm, k |
| 18:48.08 | Shouryuu | I didn't get PM... |
| 18:48.21 | Astryl | Shouryuu, http://wow.pastebin.com/572170 |
| 18:48.24 | Cairenn | did you both /msg nickserv identify <pw> ? |
| 18:48.48 | Astryl | No... |
| 18:48.59 | Shouryuu | ahh that's why :P |
| 18:49.44 | Astryl | So could you do that, Shou? |
| 18:49.52 | Shouryuu | hummm |
| 18:50.06 | Shouryuu | you want the spells only to be translated? |
| 18:51.48 | Astryl | Nope, all of it. |
| 18:51.58 | Astryl | (Or are they not tranlated in french wow either or something?) |
| 18:52.28 | Astryl | Well, the CLASS ones... what does UnitClass return in french wow? |
| 18:52.40 | Shouryuu | I have a site that has a translation of spells, just looking for it |
| 18:52.55 | Astryl | If it still returns "Warrior", then leave it. |
| 18:52.56 | Shouryuu | I don't know about the that, I play on a US version |
| 18:52.58 | Astryl | Ah, sweet. |
| 18:53.02 | Astryl | Ahhh, OK. |
| 18:53.18 | Shouryuu | I think most of the staff from curse is french |
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| 18:55.12 | zeeg | ack |
| 18:55.19 | zeeg | i didnt think about scite |
| 18:55.22 | zeeg | i moved most major links :s |
| 18:55.32 | elema | frame:enablemouse(true) enablesmouse and false disables, or which flag do I have to use ? |
| 18:55.46 | Cairenn | I already fixed it zeeg |
| 18:55.55 | Cairenn | in the FAQ, that is :p |
| 18:56.07 | zeeg | its probably not linked a great deal anywhere else.. hopefully |
| 18:56.38 | ckknight | elema, I think you're right |
| 18:57.07 | wereHamster | Astryl, UnitClass() has two return values.. the first is the localized string and the second is the english string in upper-case.. |
| 18:57.40 | Shouryuu | Well http://fr.wowguru.com/db/spellsearch.php?name=&cat=134 has them translated, but you'll have to either recognise them by icon, or switch from french/english |
| 18:58.00 | ckknight | yea, UnitClass("player") will return "Hexenmeister", "WARLOCK" in deDE |
| 18:58.39 | Astryl | Shouryuu, thanks |
| 18:59.21 | Shouryuu | I know I have some better translations somewhere, just can't find out where... |
| 18:59.29 | zeeg | ok seriously |
| 18:59.31 | zeeg | http://rs.mmotheatre.com/movies/2011/pupming-dance-mix.html |
| 18:59.34 | zeeg | is it not obvious how to download? |
| 18:59.42 | zeeg | im getting mass comment spam on "OMG HOW DO I DOWNLOAD" etc. |
| 19:04.35 | Shouryuu | ok it's obvious |
| 19:04.43 | Astryl | zeeg, what different languages of wowguru are there? |
| 19:05.21 | Shouryuu | all I think |
| 19:05.31 | Astryl | Which is...? |
| 19:05.44 | Wob | fr ge zh ko en? |
| 19:05.51 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 19:05.53 | Shouryuu | zh is? |
| 19:05.56 | Wob | chinese |
| 19:06.07 | Astryl | OK, thanks. |
| 19:06.07 | Wob | zhongguo =) |
| 19:06.16 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 19:06.26 | Astryl | english UK users' GetLocale returns what? enUK? |
| 19:07.06 | zeeg | Astryl, i cover everything, but the db isnt very full for anything other than US/DE |
| 19:07.13 | zeeg | it returns enUS |
| 19:07.23 | zeeg | unless slouken changed it |
| 19:07.51 | Astryl | OK, thanks. |
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| 19:09.06 | elema | when are battlefield_show and battlfield_hide events fired ? |
| 19:09.43 | Shouryuu | Atryl here we go http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/index.php?page=competences |
| 19:11.14 | Astryl | Sweet, thanks. |
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| 19:17.06 | Shouryuu | man Queen is incredibly cool |
| 19:17.55 | Cairenn | as in the band? |
| 19:18.37 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 19:18.43 | Shouryuu | what were you thinking of? |
| 19:18.54 | Cairenn | oh, be careful, you don't want to say things like that, they are much too old, you'll get spit on |
| 19:19.13 | Wob | *snort* |
| 19:19.43 | Wob | What Queen song are you listening to, Shou? |
| 19:20.30 | Shouryuu | all :P |
| 19:20.37 | Shouryuu | Bohemian rapsody tops them all |
| 19:20.38 | Wob | Naturally =P |
| 19:20.45 | Wob | I dunno |
| 19:20.48 | Wob | I like Under Pressure |
| 19:21.03 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 19:21.19 | Shouryuu | It's a kind of magic is fun |
| 19:21.22 | Wob | And Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy |
| 19:21.38 | Shouryuu | that album witha night a the opera are my favorite albums |
| 19:22.00 | Wob | I just like the fact that I can shout out all the songs =) |
| 19:22.26 | Shouryuu | hehe same |
| 19:22.53 | Shouryuu | the funiest thing happened to me yesterday |
| 19:23.07 | Shouryuu | I was in the metro, commuting back home, listening to bohemian rapsody |
| 19:23.12 | Shouryuu | so I turned the volume up |
| 19:23.31 | Wob | headbanging? =) |
| 19:23.38 | Shouryuu | and I start singing, but without saying the words, just moving my lips |
| 19:23.40 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 19:24.26 | Shouryuu | and turn around, and see this girl looking at me and doing the exact same thing |
| 19:24.41 | Wob | heheh |
| 19:24.51 | Wob | Love of Queen is a universal thing =) |
| 19:24.54 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 19:25.01 | Cairenn | lol, cool |
| 19:25.01 | Shouryuu | that's what so cool about it :P |
| 19:25.06 | Shouryuu | it just never ages |
| 19:25.17 | Wob | I want more music like that nowadays |
| 19:25.29 | Wob | They really knew how to write a song |
| 19:26.21 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 19:26.23 | Shouryuu | not just put words one after another |
| 19:26.29 | Cairenn | 70's *classic* rock (not that stupid disco crap) and a large percentage of the music of the 80's is like that ... just never gets old |
| 19:26.50 | Astryl | "Unable to locate database" wtf? |
| 19:26.52 | Wob | Oh, and Pink Floyd |
| 19:27.00 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.06 | zeeg | Astryl? |
| 19:27.13 | zeeg | :s |
| 19:27.37 | Wob | If ya doon't eat yer meat, ye cain't have eny puddin! How can ya have eny puddin if ye doon't eat yer meat?!!? |
| 19:28.22 | Wob | Oh and I love the 80's for the cheesyness |
| 19:28.24 | Shouryuu | haha |
| 19:28.36 | Wob | I mean, hello? Culture Club? |
| 19:28.44 | Wob | Wham? |
| 19:29.01 | Astryl | http://www.wowguru.com/db/skill-lines/feral-combat-id134/ |
| 19:29.07 | Astryl | = Unable to locate database |
| 19:29.08 | Cairenn | yeah, well, I did say a large percentage, not *all* ;) |
| 19:29.21 | Wob | hehe |
| 19:29.23 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 19:30.23 | Wob | I have to say, though, the memory of George Michael in a tight t-shirt, short short shorts and pink gloves will haunt me for the rest of my life =) |
| 19:30.33 | Astryl | ... |
| 19:30.35 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 19:30.52 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 19:31.48 | zeeg | hrm |
| 19:34.13 | Astryl | Hey Shour... |
| 19:34.19 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 19:34.20 | zeeg | one sec Astryl |
| 19:34.21 | zeeg | im fixing |
| 19:34.24 | Astryl | Ah, k |
| 19:34.25 | Shouryuu | gonna have dinner |
| 19:34.26 | Shouryuu | brb |
| 19:34.50 | Shouryuu | ok dinner is postponned |
| 19:34.51 | Shouryuu | so? |
| 19:36.27 | zeeg | k there |
| 19:36.42 | zeeg | i need to fix the icons |
| 19:38.52 | Astryl | http://www.wowguru.com/db/talent-trees/feral-combat-id281/ = Error loading the database: talent-trees |
| 19:39.19 | futr-sleep | oh Tain, I love http://crushingdreams.com/images/Breaking_News_G15.jpg |
| 19:39.45 | zeeg | ya talent trees dont work yet |
| 19:39.49 | zeeg | they're not suposed to work yet :( |
| 19:39.51 | zeeg | i been busy :P |
| 19:39.57 | Astryl | Well hurry up! :) |
| 19:39.59 | zeeg | i just put the links there so i wouldnt forget |
| 19:40.00 | zeeg | hehe |
| 19:40.06 | Shouryuu | haha that's french TV! |
| 19:40.13 | zeeg | i can probably put them up real fast, a temporary thing, let me finish this tho |
| 19:41.06 | Astryl | zeeg, including fr version? |
| 19:41.29 | Astryl | I just need a translation for Feral Charge and Faerie Fire (Feral) in french. |
| 19:42.07 | Astryl | I have a guess as to what Faerie Fire (Feral) is... Lucioles (sauvage) sound right, Shouryuu? |
| 19:42.15 | Astryl | But no clue on Feral Charge. |
| 19:42.28 | zeeg | Astryl, ya that's all automatic, the translation stuff that is |
| 19:42.37 | zeeg | Astryl, find the spell in english |
| 19:42.39 | zeeg | and itll have a link |
| 19:42.42 | Wobin_ | ~x en fr Faerie Fire (Feral) |
| 19:42.44 | zeeg | to the french, german, chinese, etc. versions |
| 19:42.56 | Wobin_ | aw |
| 19:43.53 | SP|Sorren | is there a way to emulate an event? |
| 19:44.44 | Astryl | So, talent trees up soon? |
| 19:46.52 | zeeg | Astryl, ya ill get em up as soon as I finish this |
| 19:51.57 | Tain | SP|Sorren, you can cause an event to trigger. I'm not sure what you mean by emulate though. |
| 19:53.04 | zeeg | alright |
| 19:53.10 | zeeg | mmotheatre has rss for anything and everything |
| 19:53.10 | zeeg | :D |
| 19:54.34 | futr-sleep | the issue where an addon shows up as "Banned" in the addons menu only happens on non-Blizzard servers right? |
| 19:55.21 | wereHamster | muahaha.. I just found a way to make LaunchURL() open whatever URL I want, or export dkp directly to a web site :) anyone interested in the addon? |
| 19:55.39 | Elkano | killed with 1.10 |
| 19:55.49 | futrtrubl | pity LaunchURL dies in 1.10 |
| 19:56.00 | zeeg | ok actually Astryl |
| 19:56.03 | zeeg | you're gonna have to wait on talents |
| 19:56.20 | zeeg | but like i said, all the translations for spells are avail, just search for it in english, and itll show the french counterpart on the same page |
| 19:56.40 | Tain | Yeah it's too bad in one small way, it was neat to be able to update dkp/etc on a webpage using LaunchURL() like immediatle during raids. |
| 19:56.42 | Tain | Oh goddamnit. |
| 19:56.57 | Tain | Just realized how you could have used LaunchURL() to do other stuff. |
| 19:57.50 | futrtrubl | anyone know whether a mod can show up as banned on a proper server? |
| 19:58.18 | Tain | Never heard of it yet, futrtrubl |
| 19:58.54 | Cairenn | futrtrubl: hasn't yet that I've heard of, only shows that way on emu servers |
| 19:59.32 | Shouryuu | Astryl - Sorry dunno bout feral charge, I'll look at the french talent trees gimme a sec |
| 20:00.01 | futrtrubl | when the addon signing code went in to the client there were a couple people complaining that some addons got banned. I think they were then laughed at because it could only happen on an emulated server... but I'm not sure |
| 20:00.35 | futrtrubl | thanks Cairenn. just told someone to play on legal servers ;'] |
| 20:01.15 | zeeg | being able to update things like that on the fly would be a good thing.. |
| 20:01.49 | Astryl | Thanks Shoury |
| 20:02.29 | zeeg | Astryl, just do what I said :s |
| 20:02.41 | Astryl | Tried, didn't work. |
| 20:03.25 | Shouryuu | working on it :P almost there |
| 20:03.33 | zeeg | hrm |
| 20:03.39 | zeeg | Astryl, you didnt check "player spells" did you? |
| 20:03.45 | Astryl | Found it, Shou! |
| 20:03.49 | Astryl | http://www.wow-europe.com/fr/info/basics/talents/druid/talents.html |
| 20:03.52 | Shouryuu | Charge farouche |
| 20:03.55 | Shouryuu | dang |
| 20:04.34 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/spells/feral-charge-id16979/ |
| 20:04.37 | zeeg | is that not what you wanted Astryl? |
| 20:04.43 | zeeg | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.44 | zeeg | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.44 | zeeg | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.45 | zeeg | :P |
| 20:05.09 | Astryl | Hmm.... |
| 20:05.21 | Shouryuu | It's charge farouche on the WoW site |
| 20:05.28 | Astryl | That's not what WoW's site says. |
| 20:05.33 | zeeg | my site is right |
| 20:05.35 | zeeg | wow's = wrong |
| 20:05.35 | Shouryuu | and it makes more sens than Rage animale |
| 20:05.35 | zeeg | :P |
| 20:05.43 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 20:05.47 | zeeg | mine's pulled directly from game files |
| 20:05.52 | zeeg | unless it's changed since the last update, it should be right |
| 20:05.56 | Astryl | ... |
| 20:06.03 | Astryl | ...Then why does it say 50 rage? |
| 20:06.06 | Astryl | When it's really 5? |
| 20:06.20 | Astryl | And 25yd range, when it's really 8-20? |
| 20:06.22 | Shouryuu | http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/index.php?page=talents |
| 20:06.32 | zeeg | that was the only feral charge in the db tho |
| 20:06.58 | Astryl | Right, so you prolly only have an old beta version of the fr translatione |
| 20:07.03 | zeeg | Astryl, no |
| 20:07.06 | zeeg | the english page is up to date |
| 20:07.14 | zeeg | translations are just from like.. 1.8.0 or something |
| 20:07.17 | zeeg | for fr at least |
| 20:07.23 | Astryl | OK, so they renamed it in 1.9 |
| 20:07.31 | Shouryuu | Astryl Fearie fire(feral) is Luciole (farouche) |
| 20:07.41 | Astryl | Yep, got that off wow's site too |
| 20:07.45 | zeeg | ferocity? |
| 20:07.48 | Tain | Je suis farouche. |
| 20:07.57 | Shouryuu | yeah it's a weird translation |
| 20:07.59 | zeeg | nope nvm |
| 20:08.04 | Shouryuu | farouche kinda means daring, risking |
| 20:08.13 | Tain | Exactly. |
| 20:08.14 | Tain | That's me. |
| 20:08.23 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 20:08.27 | Shouryuu | you can't really use it that way |
| 20:08.30 | Shouryuu | but :P |
| 20:08.34 | Tain | I can. |
| 20:08.42 | Shouryuu | ok... |
| 20:08.44 | Astryl | Tain can, because he's farouche! |
| 20:08.45 | Wobin_ | night all |
| 20:08.45 | Astryl | :) |
| 20:08.49 | Shouryuu | night |
| 20:08.49 | Tain | Exactly! |
| 20:08.50 | Tain | haha |
| 20:08.53 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 20:09.09 | Astryl | OK, so... |
| 20:09.15 | Shouryuu | arghh my lips are so dry.... =( |
| 20:09.23 | Astryl | I think I have a solid translation for everything french. |
| 20:09.33 | Tain | You need Chapstick Farouche |
| 20:09.44 | Shouryuu | Chapstick Farouche/ |
| 20:10.05 | Astryl | Energy = d'énergie, right? |
| 20:10.14 | Shouryuu | without the d' |
| 20:10.31 | zeeg | david.. essex O.o |
| 20:10.34 | zeeg | no blink 182 Cairenn? |
| 20:11.09 | Astryl | So on a tooltip, it'd say "30 énergie"? |
| 20:11.50 | Shouryuu | no 30 de'energie |
| 20:11.54 | Shouryuu | *d'energie |
| 20:12.08 | Astryl | With the accented e too, right? |
| 20:12.09 | Shouryuu | energy = energie |
| 20:12.12 | Astryl | é |
| 20:12.14 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 20:12.17 | Astryl | OK. |
| 20:12.22 | Shouryuu | d'energy = of energy |
| 20:12.27 | wereHamster | french is complicated.. I new it ! |
| 20:12.30 | Astryl | Ah, k |
| 20:12.46 | Shouryuu | it requiers 30 (of) energy, that's how you say it french :P |
| 20:12.53 | Tain | Bah g15 threads fell too far off. |
| 20:13.10 | Cairenn | good :p |
| 20:13.11 | Tain | I had another picture. Now I'll have to save it. |
| 20:13.36 | futrtrubl | show us Tain |
| 20:13.40 | Cairenn | linky? |
| 20:13.49 | Shouryuu | shoow uss |
| 20:13.49 | Tain | But.. then it won't be a good in the thread. |
| 20:14.06 | Tain | http://crushingdreams.com/images/nog15.jpg |
| 20:14.20 | Cairenn | it'll still make us laugh |
| 20:14.21 | Shouryuu | hahahaha |
| 20:14.27 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 20:14.30 | Cairenn | I like |
| 20:15.43 | Astryl | OK now then... Who knows german!? |
| 20:15.48 | Astryl | :) |
| 20:16.01 | Tain | Du hast. |
| 20:16.23 | Astryl | Du hast maesh? |
| 20:16.31 | Shouryuu | Du hate me! |
| 20:16.37 | Shouryuu | *hast mich |
| 20:16.47 | Astryl | Ah, it's mich. |
| 20:17.48 | futrtrubl | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.00 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 20:18.11 | Shouryuu | I ahve a waffle in my fridge |
| 20:18.14 | Shouryuu | that's what he said |
| 20:18.25 | futrtrubl | riiiiiiight |
| 20:18.38 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 20:19.32 | Tain | Ihr Vater sollte Sie in der Ecke gesprizt haben! |
| 20:20.20 | Tain | Wait, we did determine that no one here speaks German, right? |
| 20:20.31 | Astryl | Heh. |
| 20:21.17 | futrtrubl | ich habe ein Liebe/Haß Verhältnis zum Auktionator |
| 20:22.33 | futrtrubl | ~ de en Ihr Vater sollte Sie in der Ecke gesprizt haben! |
| 20:22.44 | futrtrubl | ~x de en Ihr Vater sollte Sie in der Ecke gesprizt haben! |
| 20:24.19 | Tain | Actually I used to know the real phrase, what I put there was a bad translation so it probably won't translate back at all. |
| 20:25.00 | Tain | ~x en de I like big butts and I can not lie. |
| 20:25.01 | ckknight | Your father should have squirted you in the corner? |
| 20:25.20 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:25.32 | Tain | Yeah, ckknight. Was a curse of sorts tought to me by a German kid in high school. |
| 20:25.41 | ckknight | ~x de en Wir mussen die Juden ausratten |
| 20:25.51 | ckknight | aw |
| 20:25.54 | ckknight | it didn't do it right |
| 20:26.03 | ckknight | (I just saw the South Park episode last night) |
| 20:26.14 | ckknight | oh, it's ü |
| 20:26.26 | ckknight | ~x de en Wir müssen die Juden ausratten |
| 20:26.37 | ckknight | ah, screw it |
| 20:26.42 | ckknight | lousy translator |
| 20:26.44 | wereHamster | haha.. it's always funny to see people trying to speak a foreign language :) |
| 20:26.59 | ckknight | I took 3 years of German |
| 20:28.17 | Tain | I've watched some German films. |
| 20:28.29 | wereHamster | ckknight, it's ausrotten.. |
| 20:36.53 | ckknight | really? |
| 20:36.54 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:37.15 | ckknight | ah |
| 20:37.18 | ckknight | that makes more sense |
| 21:01.52 | Shouryuu | I hate theorycraft |
| 21:01.58 | ckknight | ? |
| 21:02.20 | Shouryuu | people are saying you can actually do damage with smite, thanks to spirit |
| 21:02.29 | Shouryuu | and they take into account the fact that you have spirit tap on... |
| 21:02.35 | Shouryuu | How often do you have spirit tap... |
| 21:02.37 | ckknight | wow, cool |
| 21:02.52 | ckknight | I get it whenever I kill something solo |
| 21:03.33 | Shouryuu | yeah when soloing |
| 21:03.40 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:03.45 | ckknight | that's all it's useful for, really |
| 21:03.49 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 21:03.54 | Shouryuu | and it only lasts for what, 10sec? |
| 21:03.59 | Shouryuu | can't remember.. |
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| 21:24.11 | Kremonte | i was wondering why my package "in transit to" from CA to IL was taking so long, it didn't leave till 7am >< |
| 21:24.11 | Kremonte | gahhhh, damn you postal service, i want my motherboard! |
| 21:25.20 | Cairenn | Shouryuu: *bonk* you knew it was already in the new version :p |
| 21:35.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge AnduinLothar (n=karl@adsl-67-121-107-127.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 21:35.40 | AnduinLothar | i have no new memos :'( |
| 21:49.40 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: would you mind digging out vjeux's email addy for me again? misplaced where I wrote it down (can't find anything on this darn desk of mine, what a mess :p ) |
| 21:50.02 | AnduinLothar | mmm, can't here. Not at home |
| 21:50.09 | Cairenn | okay, no worries |
| 21:50.14 | Cairenn | when you can, please :) |
| 21:50.36 | AnduinLothar | Anduin|Cowzzz, that's you |
| 21:51.11 | AnduinLothar | I'll get my secretary right on it |
| 21:51.36 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 22:04.51 | AnduinLothar | mmm, didn't notice the test realm patch notes went live |
| 22:05.08 | AnduinLothar | oh |
| 22:05.10 | AnduinLothar | nm 1.9 |
| 22:06.14 | AnduinLothar | funny tho... I just retested "Fixed a bug that could cause Guard Slip'kik to move while trapped in ice." last week.. |
| 22:17.13 | AnduinLothar | wow: http://www.google.com/search?q=world+of+warcraft+addon |
| 22:17.25 | ckknight | where could I get the german/french versions of GlobalStrings.lua? |
| 22:17.55 | AnduinLothar | hmmm, we have um on the cosmos svn |
| 22:18.31 | ckknight | what's the link to that? |
| 22:18.38 | AnduinLothar | internal |
| 22:18.44 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:18.53 | ckknight | would you mind emailing em to me, then? |
| 22:18.55 | AnduinLothar | lemme see if i can dl them from here |
| 22:18.59 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:23.32 | ckknight | lol, there's PLAYTIME_TIRED and PLAYTIME_UNHEALTHY |
| 22:24.00 | AnduinLothar | for chinese |
| 22:24.06 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:24.11 | AnduinLothar | law requires less xp |
| 22:24.14 | ckknight | but it's in the English localization, too |
| 22:24.22 | AnduinLothar | events are universal |
| 22:24.28 | ckknight | alright |
| 22:24.33 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 22:24.39 | ckknight | kinda funny |
| 22:24.48 | ckknight | what if you're on a really long instance run, though? |
| 22:25.13 | ckknight | 3 hours halves your XP and gold, and 5 makes you get none |
| 22:25.36 | AnduinLothar | that's the law.... i didn't make it |
| 22:25.58 | ckknight | yea, I'm just commenting |
| 22:26.19 | AnduinLothar | wont be many people moving to china.. |
| 22:26.52 | ckknight | yea, well they have business opportunities there |
| 22:28.33 | ckknight | The issue was in DURABILITY_TEMPLATE, for english, it used %d and for German it used %1$d or something |
| 22:29.26 | AnduinLothar | ya, the german ones like to rearange the variables supplied using that format. |
| 22:29.39 | ckknight | hrm, I can understand that |
| 22:29.39 | AnduinLothar | just makes um harder to parse |
| 22:30.12 | ckknight | I wish there was an easy way to go from the printf format to the string.find format |
| 22:30.48 | Elkano | wrt the playtime, I wonder how they are doing MC and BWL over there... only 5 h including preperations :/ |
| 22:30.56 | AnduinLothar | someone started an addon.... it was never finished and the author dropped of the face of the earth |
| 22:31.19 | ckknight | I should figure out a way to do it, it could be very handy |
| 22:31.23 | AnduinLothar | you can still play for items, you just get no $ or xp |
| 22:32.12 | ckknight | ah |
| 22:32.14 | Elkano | sure? I thought even looting becomes impossible after 5h |
| 22:32.40 | AnduinLothar | I was told just $ and xp |
| 22:33.36 | Elkano | check the text of PLAYTIME_UNHEALTHY |
| 22:33.58 | AnduinLothar | meh |
| 22:34.03 | Elkano | in the German version it sais "you're unable to loot" |
| 22:34.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Iriel (n=daniel@adsl-66-123-190-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 22:34.40 | Elkano | (which doesn't mean tht it actually is that way) |
| 22:34.46 | Cairenn | hey Iriel :) |
| 22:34.48 | Elkano | hiho Iriel :) |
| 22:35.20 | Iriel | Hello all |
| 22:35.31 | wereHamster | "You will not be able to gain loot, XP, or complete quests." .. so basically you can't do anything after 5h.. |
| 22:36.18 | AnduinLothar | you can still code ;) |
| 22:36.24 | wereHamster | .. other than running around and chatting with friends.. but what about PvP do you still get honor? |
| 22:36.38 | AnduinLothar | and farm rep |
| 22:36.51 | Elkano | Imagine the situation: Finnaly, your raid managed to kill the evil boss and the loot master sais: "Sorry guys, I'm not allowed to loot anything anymore :/" |
| 22:37.50 | Cairenn | rofl! 30,000 pounds of bananas |
| 22:37.56 | Elkano | ??? |
| 22:38.02 | Cairenn | hahahhaa |
| 22:38.14 | Cairenn | don't worry about it |
| 22:39.03 | Elkano | hmmm.... m'kay... |
| 22:42.14 | Cairenn | it's stupidly hilarious |
| 22:56.39 | AnduinLothar | mmm http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4650 |
| 22:56.48 | AnduinLothar | I'm gonna have to make a tooltip version |
| 22:57.17 | ckknight | tooltip? |
| 22:57.57 | AnduinLothar | mmm nm |
| 22:58.11 | ckknight | that already has a tooltip, it seems |
| 22:58.13 | AnduinLothar | the defautl hearthstone tooltip says were you're bound |
| 22:58.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:58.50 | AnduinLothar | ya, was thinking it didn't but they added that a while back... 1.6 or something |
| 22:59.17 | AnduinLothar | nm then. |
| 22:59.46 | AnduinLothar | i just have mine in a side bar slot with cooldown count... basicly the same as that mod |
| 23:01.29 | AnduinLothar | mmm wonder if we ever applied to the bfsp |
| 23:02.09 | Cairenn | should |
| 23:02.27 | Cairenn | there are some nice little benefits to it |
| 23:02.48 | AnduinLothar | cant find the page.. |
| 23:04.56 | Cairenn | I know who to contact, but it isn't the official link |
| 23:05.01 | Cairenn | trying to find it for you |
| 23:06.14 | ckknight | alright, I made a function that "deformats" a string with a pattern |
| 23:06.35 | ckknight | only works for %d, %s, and the weird placement ones, e.g. %1$d |
| 23:07.38 | AnduinLothar | well I just made an Embedable Sea.string mini-lib if you wanna throw it in there |
| 23:07.53 | ckknight | hrm, maybe |
| 23:07.59 | ckknight | I haven't even looked at that code |
| 23:08.21 | AnduinLothar | i optimized some of the old functions |
| 23:09.25 | Cairenn | oh crap, I know why I don't know where to find it .... |
| 23:09.33 | ckknight | the 30k bananas? |
| 23:09.51 | Cairenn | the link for Anduin :p |
| 23:10.04 | Cairenn | I can't find it because we were invited, we didn't apply :p |
| 23:11.33 | ckknight | I'm looking at the Sea.string lib, and toInt is wrong |
| 23:11.58 | ckknight | should be toInt = function(i) floor(tonumber(i)) end |
| 23:12.05 | ckknight | you just have it as toInt = tonumber |
| 23:13.00 | AnduinLothar | ya, that shouldn't really be in sea.string anyway |
| 23:13.10 | ckknight | meh |
| 23:13.13 | Iriel | floor(tonumber) isn't really necessary, you can just do 'floor' |
| 23:13.14 | AnduinLothar | should be in Sea.math |
| 23:13.48 | AnduinLothar | it's just conversion back from a string |
| 23:13.58 | AnduinLothar | which is why it's in Sea.string anyway |
| 23:14.25 | Iriel | And of course, there's no reason why it had to exist in the first place since tonumber is a core LUA function |
| 23:14.37 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 23:14.58 | AnduinLothar | I think I may just remove it it thottbot doesn't use it. no one else does |
| 23:15.02 | AnduinLothar | if* |
| 23:15.31 | AnduinLothar | Sea has a history of legacy code since it's been around since beta |
| 23:15.47 | AnduinLothar | but then you get people whining about it being huge |
| 23:17.14 | Tain | I would like to require some people actually look up and understand the definition of the term, "bloated" before they bandy it about. |
| 23:17.45 | AnduinLothar | here's the embedable code base: http://wow.pastebin.com/572486 |
| 23:20.55 | AnduinLothar | I tried to optimize capitalizeWords. The main problem is that it has to also work with special characters |
| 23:21.22 | Tain | Those non-English language types, always making thigs difficult. |
| 23:21.31 | Iriel | Heh, did you succeed there, or just ignore them? |
| 23:21.57 | Iriel | I spent some time last week mucking around with the unicode database for something, it's quite complex. |
| 23:22.12 | Iriel | On another note: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Code_Load_Order |
| 23:23.00 | AnduinLothar | I basicly caught a-zA-Z and capitolized them and anything else capitolized the first two characters.. |
| 23:23.12 | Iriel | You can't do that |
| 23:23.41 | Iriel | Well, I geuss it depends on what you mean by 'captiolized the first two characters'(sic |
| 23:23.49 | AnduinLothar | It's worked so far in TellTrack with chinese localization |
| 23:23.52 | Iriel | You substring them, and pass them in to a caps function? |
| 23:23.54 | AnduinLothar | and eu |
| 23:23.57 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 23:23.59 | Iriel | Or you do them independently |
| 23:24.04 | AnduinLothar | substring |
| 23:24.14 | Iriel | Ah, that probably does 'work' then, though I dont believe it'd work for all languages |
| 23:24.40 | AnduinLothar | well all the eu ones that I could find had special chars as two characters in substr |
| 23:25.22 | Iriel | I think most non-ASCII UTF-8 encodings are just 2 bytes |
| 23:25.33 | Iriel | There are 3 byte UTF-8 encodings, but they're much more rare |
| 23:25.49 | ckknight | UTF-8 characters can be from 1 to 4 bytes |
| 23:25.49 | Iriel | (There are also some longer ones, since unicode is 32 bit these days, btu I have no idea how those look) |
| 23:26.11 | Iriel | But even Java doesn't handle the long ones properly |
| 23:26.12 | ckknight | but yes, 1-byte UTF-8 characters are the most common, followed by 2-byte, and so on |
| 23:26.16 | ckknight | depending on the language |
| 23:27.07 | AnduinLothar | i couldn't think of any good way to tell the byte length other than just catching the known 1-bytes.. |
| 23:27.27 | Iriel | It's encoded in the bytes themselves, find the UTF-8 spec, it's all explaiend |
| 23:27.33 | Iriel | It's made to be pretty easy to parse/skip |
| 23:27.41 | ckknight | string.len()? |
| 23:27.54 | Iriel | (Which is one reason why all the 1-byte characters are standard ASCII) |
| 23:27.55 | AnduinLothar | len returns bytes not chars |
| 23:28.00 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:28.01 | Legorol | Iriel, that UI_Code_Load_order is interesting |
| 23:28.03 | ckknight | oh, you want chars? |
| 23:28.05 | Legorol | thanks for posting it |
| 23:28.22 | Iriel | I finally had a use for a getfenv(0) metatable 8-) |
| 23:28.35 | Legorol | btw, are you linking these Notes (load order and coordinate system) from anywhere? |
| 23:29.59 | Legorol | oh, what did you need getfenv for? |
| 23:29.59 | Iriel | I linked the load order from the Interface Customization page, it was more 'useful' than some other things already there |
| 23:29.59 | Iriel | I used it to determine creation order versus OnLoad order |
| 23:29.59 | Iriel | with a __newindex handler |
| 23:30.14 | Iriel | ckknight : he wants bytes for the 'current' chararcter |
| 23:30.55 | AnduinLothar | right, basicly I want to know the # of bytes for the first char in a string |
| 23:31.07 | Legorol | Iriel, does that mean that when the XML parsers engine creates a new Lua table corresponding to the new object, it does call __nexindex of the global environment? |
| 23:31.07 | AnduinLothar | so i can substr it and capitolize |
| 23:31.45 | Legorol | I can see how it might be the case that the parser "sidesteppes" Lua and just adds the table to the global environment directly |
| 23:31.49 | Legorol | but if that's not hte case, then cool |
| 23:32.09 | Iriel | Legorol : yes, it's not using rawset, it's using setglobal |
| 23:32.20 | Iriel | (Down at the LUA opcode level, that is) |
| 23:32.26 | Legorol | right |
| 23:33.04 | Iriel | AnduinLothar : http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/utf8.htm |
| 23:37.21 | AnduinLothar | strbyte says it grabs a character.... does it really mean byte? http://www.lua.org/manual/4.0/manual.html#6.2 |
| 23:37.42 | Iriel | Lua only supports 8 bit characters |
| 23:37.47 | ckknight | yes, as Lua isn't unicode |
| 23:37.49 | Iriel | so it does MEAN character, but c-character |
| 23:37.53 | Iriel | not unicode-character |
| 23:38.21 | AnduinLothar | meh |
| 23:39.03 | Iriel | Just look at the high bits of the first byte |
| 23:39.21 | Legorol | i think it's enough to look at the first bit? |
| 23:39.28 | Legorol | since anything < 128 is encoded as itself |
| 23:39.34 | futrtrubl | Looks like Jamaicas next Primeminister will be a woman |
| 23:39.35 | Iriel | Well, that just tells you if it's 1 or >1 |
| 23:39.46 | Legorol | true |
| 23:39.50 | Iriel | That's useless for 1,2,or 3 |
| 23:39.59 | Iriel | You need to look at the top 4 bits for that |
| 23:40.03 | Iriel | Or just use a range comparison: |
| 23:40.07 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.07 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.07 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.07 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.28 | AnduinLothar | perhaps check the 2nd and 3rd bytes for 10 |
| 23:41.56 | Legorol | Iriel, what about the four byte sequence? |
| 23:42.20 | Iriel | I can't find documentation for a 4 byte sequence,, but i'd imagine it starts with > 0xEF |
| 23:42.51 | Iriel | Ah, there we go, indeed |
| 23:42.55 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.07 | AnduinLothar | makes sense |
| 23:43.17 | Iriel | You wont encounter any of those though, in normal processing |
| 23:43.25 | Iriel | that';s beyond the scope of standard unicode |
| 23:47.53 | Iriel | I can tell how much UI stuff i've been doing by how many of my mozilla tabs are the LUA manual |
| 23:48.31 | Legorol | According to Unicode standard v4.0 and higher, the 4-byte sequences start with |
| 23:48.37 | Legorol | F0 to F4 hex |
| 23:48.58 | Legorol | F5 to FF is never a valid byte in UTF-8 sequence |
| 23:49.19 | Legorol | (not just in first position, but in any position) |
| 23:49.35 | Legorol | http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode4.0.0/ch03.pdf |
| 23:49.48 | Legorol | Section 3.9 has UTF-8's definition |
| 23:50.08 | Legorol | We don't know however which Unicode version is WoW's implementation following |
| 23:50.29 | Iriel | Very very very few things support 32 bit unicode |
| 23:50.32 | Iriel | Certainly not wow |
| 23:53.53 | Legorol | has that been tested? |
| 23:55.02 | Legorol | what i am curious about is if there is any difference in the clients for different locales, at least with respect to UTF-8 handling |
| 23:55.13 | Legorol | for example, why is that the american client can't display korean text? |
| 23:55.28 | Legorol | or is this just an issue with the fonts involved? |
| 23:55.41 | Legorol | I am not too clear about this |
| 23:56.00 | ckknight | here's one I can't figure out: |
| 23:56.01 | ckknight | RAID_INSTANCE_INFO_FMT = "%s (Id=%lx): %s" |
| 23:56.13 | Iriel | I suspect it's just the fonts, yes |
| 23:56.20 | ckknight | %l doesn't seem to be a valid formatting code |
| 23:56.26 | Iriel | It's a prefix on x |
| 23:56.28 | Iriel | long x |
| 23:57.53 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:58.07 | Legorol | Iriel, do you know if the American client can display common European characters, like vowels with umlaut etc. |
| 23:58.16 | ckknight | %lx doesn't work either as a formatting code, I can't figure out what to put in the string.format to make it do anything |
| 23:58.17 | Iriel | Yes it can |
| 23:58.28 | Iriel | People used to get around naming restrictions with it. |
| 23:58.39 | ckknight | I hate those bastards |
| 23:58.55 | Iriel | Well, there's string.format, and then there's the underlying C++ engine's sprintf, which some of those formats get fed into |
| 23:59.03 | Iriel | They're not necessarily the same |
| 23:59.18 | Legorol | Do you know if the American client would be able to display all characters in ISO-8859-2 |
| 23:59.38 | Iriel | Legorol : I have no idea, i'd imagine you'd be able to find that out from the .TTF file |
| 23:59.49 | Legorol | I don't have American client :( |
