| 00:19.06 | MentalPower | is there a simple way to get the contents of GetItemInfo() into a table? |
| 00:19.48 | wereMouse|sleep | local itemInfoTable = { GetItemInfo() } |
| 00:19.58 | MentalPower | many thanks :) |
| 01:07.36 | Cairenn|sleep | ckknight: and I tell you yet again, you can modify your files while they are in the moderation queue |
| 01:08.11 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: yes, it was a nap, I spent all night at the hospital, I've had like no sleep |
| 01:13.23 | AnduinLothar | :( with the ahsma girl? |
| 01:13.36 | Cairenn | yup |
| 01:13.43 | AnduinLothar | that sux |
| 01:13.46 | AnduinLothar | she ok? |
| 01:13.51 | Cairenn | yeah, she's okay |
| 01:13.56 | AnduinLothar | that's no way to end a party, lol |
| 01:14.08 | Cairenn | rather sucked, indeed |
| 01:14.29 | AnduinLothar | that's ok my mom once cut her thumb off at my sis's b-day |
| 01:14.36 | Cairenn | gack |
| 01:14.47 | AnduinLothar | so at least it wasn't you |
| 01:14.52 | AnduinLothar | or your kid |
| 01:16.08 | Cairenn | would actually have been better, in some ways |
| 01:16.37 | AnduinLothar | well, they yu dont have to deal with transfered responsibility |
| 01:16.41 | AnduinLothar | then you* |
| 01:16.44 | Cairenn | yup |
| 01:17.00 | AnduinLothar | anythign in paticular cause it? |
| 01:17.08 | AnduinLothar | not your cooking I hope |
| 01:17.25 | Cairenn | well, the attack was due to them running around outside in the biting cold |
| 01:17.37 | AnduinLothar | mmm, suicidal girls |
| 01:17.54 | AnduinLothar | and im sure they blame you for such a silly thing |
| 01:18.20 | Cairenn | the trip to the hospital was due to the fact that she's never had a full blown attack before, so has never used a puffer before, so didn't know that she's one of the ones that gets all the lovely side effects from them |
| 01:18.39 | Cairenn | the puffer worked, it stopped the attack, it let her breath |
| 01:19.07 | AnduinLothar | :( |
| 01:19.33 | Cairenn | but a couple hours later, her pulse was racing, she was shaking fit to snap bones, her palms were all sweaty, she started having shortness of breath again, etc etc etc |
| 01:19.53 | AnduinLothar | wow, bad luck |
| 01:19.54 | Cairenn | good thing there were no cops between me and the hospital, I made it in record time |
| 01:20.54 | AnduinLothar | i don't think they'd actually give you a ticket if you speed to the hospital, but they would still stop you and slow you down, find she's having conniptions and escort you, scold you and tell you to call an ambulance next time |
| 01:20.56 | Cairenn | anyway, turns out that every single symptom she had are known (normal) side effects |
| 01:21.26 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: I know, actually, but I was still flying low |
| 01:37.14 | AnduinLothar | so how was the nap? |
| 01:39.00 | Tain | I don't know if I can play a game that doesn't support wide-screen resoultions any more. :( |
| 01:39.23 | AnduinLothar | lol, it does. just not THAT wide |
| 01:39.26 | Tain | Was going to fire up Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines since a new patch came out. |
| 01:40.12 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: other than the weird dreams (probably bleed-off stress), good - I needed it desperately |
| 01:41.37 | Cairenn | at least I can see straight now |
| 01:41.55 | AnduinLothar | always a good sign |
| 01:43.04 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
| 01:56.08 | *** join/#wowi-lounge A|CoT|kremonte (n=dan@ool-18bba4ea.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:56.35 | A|CoT|kremonte | would it be well taken if i made a less configurable version of DART with less mem usage? |
| 01:56.55 | ckknight | I hate all of discord's memory usage |
| 01:57.03 | ckknight | it's just so overboard |
| 01:57.37 | Cairenn | kremonte: if you give the proper credit and all as is due to the original author - choice is a good thing |
| 01:58.01 | AnduinLothar | too many choices is bad |
| 01:58.08 | AnduinLothar | too few is bad too |
| 01:58.12 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: agreed |
| 01:58.26 | kremonte | well not a mod of dart |
| 01:58.33 | kremonte | a fresh one basedo n the idea |
| 01:58.44 | AnduinLothar | 10x the work |
| 01:58.45 | kremonte | but yea id give credit where due of course |
| 01:58.48 | Cairenn | kremonte: if you *completely* rewrite it, using none of Loz's code or anything, then a nod in his direction is all that is really necessary |
| 01:58.55 | kremonte | oh of course |
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| 01:59.19 | kremonte | AnduinLothar: not necessarily |
| 01:59.27 | kremonte | considering most of his code is configuration ;p |
| 01:59.28 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@c-66-229-214-105.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:59.37 | AnduinLothar | smae is true of most mods |
| 01:59.45 | Cairenn | kremonte: and, different people can (and do) come up with the same idea |
| 02:00.15 | Cairenn | if you self admit that it is inspired by/based on/whatever Dart, then yeah, give the nod |
| 02:00.27 | kremonte | yupyup |
| 02:01.01 | ckknight | frankly, I see that if you don't use any code of DART's, you have no obligation to |
| 02:01.11 | Tain | Other than courtesy. |
| 02:01.15 | kremonte | courtesy |
| 02:01.16 | kremonte | :0 |
| 02:01.21 | Tain | Since you're admitting that you got the idea there in the first place. |
| 02:01.32 | ckknight | yea, but courtesy doesn't exist in IP law ;-) |
| 02:01.34 | Cairenn | precisely my point guys :) |
| 02:01.42 | kremonte | more or less what i was asking was |
| 02:01.47 | kremonte | would i get flamed for copying his mod =p |
| 02:01.51 | Tain | Of course neither does following BossPanel naming convention. :) |
| 02:01.52 | kremonte | which as it seems |
| 02:01.52 | kremonte | is no |
| 02:02.04 | Tain | So courtesy is a nice thing. |
| 02:02.10 | Cairenn | ckknight: and who was talking about IP law? we were talking about common courtesy, respect for your fellow coders, etc |
| 02:02.25 | ckknight | I know, I know |
| 02:02.29 | ckknight | just breaking your balls |
| 02:02.30 | kremonte | R E S P E C T, FIND OUT WHAT IT MEANS TO ME |
| 02:02.30 | Cairenn | something that is *expected* at WoWI and in this channel |
| 02:02.33 | AnduinLothar | thats ok our mods don't apply under IP unless the point is contested. |
| 02:02.55 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Violentnight (n=micdrota@ip70-162-67-180.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:03.02 | Tain | Sock it to me. |
| 02:03.05 | AnduinLothar | heck, the law doesn't matter unless an action is contested |
| 02:03.12 | Cairenn | oh baby oh baby |
| 02:03.15 | Violentnight | If you were in the shower and a fire started, what would you do? |
| 02:03.27 | AnduinLothar | plug in the toaster |
| 02:03.32 | kremonte | i'd go "omg im naked dont look at me" |
| 02:03.33 | Cairenn | grab a towel and leave, duh |
| 02:03.36 | kremonte | and the fire would go away |
| 02:03.39 | Tain | If I were in the shower and a fire started I'd wonder why I was showering in something flammible. |
| 02:03.46 | Cairenn | Tain: rofl |
| 02:03.49 | Violentnight | lol |
| 02:03.56 | AnduinLothar | i would go smother the fire with my wet body |
| 02:03.59 | Violentnight | the fire doesn't start in teh shower! |
| 02:04.03 | Tain | hahah AnduinLothar |
| 02:04.11 | Violentnight | half of you are gonna end up dead.. lol |
| 02:04.14 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: /sigh, my hero! *calf eyes* |
| 02:04.17 | Tain | Stop, drop and roll! |
| 02:05.28 | Cairenn | btw, ckknight, I don't have balls :p |
| 02:05.29 | Violentnight | ya know what I just noticed... my apartment only has one door and the only window is right next to it.. so if a fire ever starts on that side of the place, I'm screwed |
| 02:05.43 | kremonte | Violentnight : lol |
| 02:06.17 | Cairenn | Violentnight: well, if you're gonna die anyway, may as well go with a smile on your face ;) |
| 02:06.30 | kremonte | LOL |
| 02:06.31 | AnduinLothar | get a fire exstinguisher and one of those reflective fire-proof blankets |
| 02:06.46 | AnduinLothar | then keep it next to the window |
| 02:06.46 | Shadowd | Violentnight: I'm sure you can run through the flames before they burn you |
| 02:06.48 | Tain | Keep the shower running and hide inside the safety of the water stream. |
| 02:07.17 | Violentnight | lol yeah.. I have a tiny fire extinguisher and umm.. a shower? lol |
| 02:07.20 | AnduinLothar | easier to run through flames when you're wet |
| 02:07.34 | Cairenn | and hey, put the plug in the tub, too, it'll fill with water and overflow and put out the fire! |
| 02:07.35 | Tain | Depends on the door. |
| 02:07.36 | Violentnight | speaking from experience, AnduinLothar? |
| 02:07.43 | AnduinLothar | well, easier to not get burnt, but perhaps not the running part |
| 02:07.51 | Tain | I mean if you can't break through the door at running speed then you're in trouble. |
| 02:07.57 | Tain | Because that's bound to be a hot doorknob. |
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| 02:08.07 | AnduinLothar | only if its metal |
| 02:08.09 | Violentnight | lol |
| 02:08.26 | Violentnight | I'd probably throw something through teh window and jump through that |
| 02:08.35 | Violentnight | the door is pretty solid and has 2 deadbolts that I'd have to unlock |
| 02:08.37 | dukeku_ | wc3 loves to crash when i exit :[ |
| 02:08.38 | AnduinLothar | sides, apt doors aren't fireproof anyway, they're hollow |
| 02:09.01 | Cairenn | and actually, if the fire is between you and the only escape route, better to suffer a few burns than to die :p |
| 02:09.18 | AnduinLothar | or use ur rm as a body shield |
| 02:09.32 | Violentnight | my rm? |
| 02:09.39 | dukeku_ | your remove, obviously |
| 02:09.39 | Cairenn | arm |
| 02:09.40 | dukeku_ | roomate |
| 02:09.43 | dukeku_ | roommate, agh |
| 02:09.44 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 02:09.51 | Violentnight | lol |
| 02:09.57 | Violentnight | I live alone |
| 02:09.57 | AnduinLothar | soak him in water and use him to smmother the fire |
| 02:10.08 | Shadowd | What if he's bigger then you |
| 02:10.16 | Tain | That's a better idea. rm -Rf door ; exit |
| 02:10.17 | AnduinLothar | cut off his leg |
| 02:10.17 | dukeku | AnduinLothar: and a little worchester sauce for after |
| 02:10.21 | Cairenn | then he'll smother more flames faster, obviously |
| 02:10.37 | AnduinLothar | duh |
| 02:10.38 | Shadowd | rofl |
| 02:10.48 | Cairenn | and be a better body shield |
| 02:10.58 | Tain | And possibly make a tasty roast. |
| 02:11.04 | AnduinLothar | make sure he always wears roller blades |
| 02:11.09 | Cairenn | I mean, come on, if he's half the size of you, he isn't going to shield much of your body, now, is he? |
| 02:11.22 | Violentnight | maybe I should just cut him open and wear him like some kind of suit so his skin burns and mine doesn't |
| 02:11.26 | Cairenn | bigger really is better ;) |
| 02:11.30 | Shadowd | AnduinLothar as the best idea, you can get him to the flames quicker and you wont have to saw his legs off |
| 02:11.35 | Shadowd | Cairenn: no comment! |
| 02:11.35 | AnduinLothar | like a tauntun? |
| 02:11.41 | Tain | On the other hand if he's that small then you could launch him like a javenlin at the window to break it. |
| 02:11.47 | Tain | And then just run and dive through. |
| 02:11.51 | Violentnight | lol |
| 02:11.57 | AnduinLothar | diving through windows is bad |
| 02:12.03 | Violentnight | none of this is really all that helpful though since I don't have a roommate =P |
| 02:12.06 | AnduinLothar | running through door is better idea |
| 02:12.08 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kaelten (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183) |
| 02:12.12 | Tain | Not if it's a big door! |
| 02:12.17 | Cairenn | especially if you are on the 15th floor :p |
| 02:12.22 | AnduinLothar | place explosive charges on the door that trigger with smoke |
| 02:12.24 | Cairenn | yo Kaelten |
| 02:12.27 | Tain | And I did have an apartment door that was solid oak, not hollow plywood. |
| 02:12.32 | Violentnight | AnduinLothar: but in all the time it'd take me to get my door unlocked nad open, I could die |
| 02:12.37 | Violentnight | lol |
| 02:12.40 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 02:12.44 | Shadowd | It looks cooler to jump out of a window anyway |
| 02:12.49 | Kaelten | hey cair |
| 02:12.59 | AnduinLothar | only if ur chuck norris |
| 02:13.00 | Shadowd | And after all, what looks cooler will decide if people want to help you or not |
| 02:13.00 | Tain | I'd just call in my stunt double to do it for me. |
| 02:13.07 | Tain | And head to my trailer for a beer. |
| 02:13.15 | Cairenn | Tain: lol |
| 02:13.21 | Violentnight | lol |
| 02:13.36 | AnduinLothar | I'd program myself a beer and use it to put out the fire |
| 02:13.40 | Tain | I disagree, Violentnight. |
| 02:13.45 | Tain | I think it's as helpful as it started out. :) |
| 02:14.00 | Violentnight | =P |
| 02:14.05 | Cairenn | Violentnight: sorry, I'm more than just a little loopy tonight |
| 02:14.05 | Shadowd | The first problem was you though we'd be helpful :p |
| 02:14.05 | kremonte | i know what i'd do!!! |
| 02:14.08 | kremonte | i have the BEST idea |
| 02:14.23 | kremonte | i'd log on my warrior, make some quick shoddy level 14 mail armour set and wear that through the flames |
| 02:14.30 | Shadowd | Shield wall? |
| 02:14.35 | Tain | I'd cast Resist Fire. |
| 02:14.44 | kremonte | Shadowd: can't |
| 02:14.51 | kremonte | < only level 14 irl ;o |
| 02:14.57 | Shadowd | Hearth? :p |
| 02:15.05 | kremonte | hearth is set to here >< |
| 02:15.08 | AnduinLothar | stab yourself with a broom lengthswise and set yourself up on the couch and rotate every so often |
| 02:15.12 | Violentnight | Wouldn't Hearth just bring me back to my apartment? lol |
| 02:15.46 | Shadowd | Minor detail |
| 02:16.04 | AnduinLothar | just die and res at the spirit healer |
| 02:16.13 | Violentnight | okay.. we went from getting a fire extinguisher to turning myself into a rotiserre... this is definitely getting worse |
| 02:16.20 | Tain | You're right. |
| 02:16.23 | AnduinLothar | die liek a man, thrown into the eggs |
| 02:16.26 | Tain | Need someone to baste. |
| 02:16.49 | Shadowd | I bet a fridge would make a better shield then a roommate |
| 02:16.55 | kremonte | how do author portals work |
| 02:16.55 | kremonte | o_O |
| 02:16.57 | Shadowd | Maybe put some wheels on your fridge |
| 02:17.05 | Cairenn | kremonte: you have mods at the site, yes? |
| 02:17.08 | kremonte | si |
| 02:17.10 | Cairenn | click enable :) |
| 02:17.13 | kremonte | doko? |
| 02:17.13 | AnduinLothar | jump ina fireproof safe |
| 02:17.13 | Cairenn | on the front menu |
| 02:17.18 | kremonte | domo |
| 02:17.21 | Shadowd | You'd sufficate |
| 02:17.32 | AnduinLothar | oxygen tank |
| 02:19.08 | Cairenn | Violentnight: sorry - if you actually want a serious discussion about it, I'm sure we can probably accommodate you |
| 02:19.33 | AnduinLothar | duh, cut another window |
| 02:19.38 | Violentnight | haha... no, not really ^_^ |
| 02:19.42 | AnduinLothar | and buy a rope ladder |
| 02:20.02 | AnduinLothar | or the explosive charges and a parichute cloak |
| 02:20.11 | AnduinLothar | +7 fr |
| 02:20.12 | Cairenn | Violentnight: one of the first things I'd do, in all seriousness, is to talk to the owners of the apartment building and point out that not having two avenues of escape is a serious safety issue |
| 02:20.13 | Violentnight | but I have a level design do on Friday that I've barely started |
| 02:20.40 | Violentnight | s/do/due |
| 02:21.12 | Violentnight | Cairenn: you mean...... talk to people? That's teh worst idea yet! =P j/k |
| 02:22.08 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 02:29.08 | Violentnight | yay Danny Phantom! |
| 02:31.18 | Tain | I'm pretty sure not having two avenues of escape is also a major legal issue. |
| 02:32.44 | Cairenn | Tain: yup, which is why I said it |
| 02:33.02 | Cairenn | now, "legally", they may be covered, since there is a window as well as the door |
| 02:33.17 | Violentnight | not that anyone bigger than a midget could fit through the window |
| 02:33.23 | Violentnight | without breaking it |
| 02:33.28 | Cairenn | but factually, having the window right beside the door makes it useless |
| 02:33.48 | Tain | Yeah true. |
| 02:34.22 | Violentnight | The window is like almost the full size ofth ewall, but only the bottom portion is able to be opened |
| 02:35.19 | Cairenn | Violentnight: in a fire, throw a chair through it |
| 02:35.28 | Violentnight | argh.. isn't there a tent static in WC3? I can't find it |
| 02:36.08 | Violentnight | Cairenn: yeah... and then I'd have to either jump like Michael Jordan or carefully climb p onto the ledge nad over the broken shards of glass as the fire burns my feet.. lol |
| 02:36.47 | AnduinLothar | fire or cuts... |
| 02:36.59 | Violentnight | both if I'm slow ^_^ |
| 02:37.12 | AnduinLothar | you window should be saftey glass anyway |
| 02:37.23 | Cairenn | if you throw a chair through the window, the shards aren't going to be right there, anyway |
| 02:37.32 | Cairenn | they're going to go flying |
| 02:37.33 | Tain | Or an aforementioned small roommate. |
| 02:37.44 | Violentnight | lol I don't have a roommate! =P |
| 02:37.56 | Violentnight | I will in April.. but she's rather heavy |
| 02:38.17 | Violentnight | oh yay I found the tent |
| 02:38.22 | Cairenn | what floor are you on, anyway? |
| 02:39.13 | Violentnight | my door leads right outside.. everyone's does |
| 02:39.44 | AnduinLothar | motel style |
| 02:39.59 | Violentnight | I'm on the ground floor and the buildings only go as high as 2 |
| 02:40.27 | Violentnight | AnduinLothar: yeah.. kinda.. I'm having a hard time explaining the layout |
| 02:40.35 | Violentnight | it's nont like a huge buliding with 50 apartments in it |
| 02:40.41 | Cairenn | then throw the gd chair through the window and get out of there - a few cuts on the soles of your feet are really of no concern |
| 02:41.01 | Shadowd | You can always sue them for injury later |
| 02:41.19 | Violentnight | lol yeah |
| 02:41.55 | Violentnight | I fricken hate how cartoonists can draw their characters in like.. 5 seconds.. and it looks awesome and perfect everytime. |
| 02:42.06 | Tain | They're robots. |
| 02:42.15 | AnduinLothar | practice |
| 02:42.20 | Violentnight | omg I think you're right.. why did I never realize it before |
| 02:42.22 | Tain | It's the great secret of the cartooning world. |
| 02:43.50 | Violentnight | Should I be concerned that I'm finding 1-3 bugs everyday in this place? |
| 02:44.08 | AnduinLothar | we've got roaches here |
| 02:44.25 | Violentnight | eww |
| 02:44.32 | AnduinLothar | small ones, we put out roach motels, cut down on the numbers a bit |
| 02:45.00 | Violentnight | mine are mostly small.. but I can't look at 'em without making an icky face--I fricken hate bugs |
| 02:45.16 | Violentnight | I did have a big one in my tub the other day.. I sent him down the drain |
| 02:45.32 | AnduinLothar | I'm not esp a cleanly guy tho. I don't mind um unless i see um on something that i eat off of. |
| 02:45.40 | Violentnight | and I killed a flyer with 409 last night |
| 02:46.07 | AnduinLothar | ya, we dont have ants or spiders that I know of her eon the 3rd floor |
| 02:46.13 | Violentnight | I can't stand bugs.. I'd hire an exterminator to live with me if I could afford it |
| 02:47.23 | Violentnight | ants and the occasional spider were teh only thing I really had back home in PA.. since I moved to AZ, it's been everything else |
| 02:48.51 | AnduinLothar | ants and termites and spiders in my parents house |
| 02:49.19 | AnduinLothar | cali gets all the desert dry weather bugs |
| 02:49.37 | AnduinLothar | onyl get roaches close to the ocean where it's a bit wetter |
| 02:50.04 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: and what would those be, of curiosity? |
| 02:50.35 | Tain | I had to take a guy to court to get my deposit and first month's rent back when I went to move into a new apartment and the day I was moving in found full roach traps everywhere. |
| 02:51.03 | Violentnight | ewww |
| 02:51.11 | Violentnight | I'd puke |
| 02:51.11 | Tain | I refused to move in. |
| 02:51.18 | AnduinLothar | well at least there were traps.. |
| 02:51.18 | Tain | He wouldn't give me my money back. |
| 02:51.27 | AnduinLothar | ours had nothing |
| 02:51.27 | Tain | So I took him to small claims, and won. |
| 02:51.32 | Tain | And still never got my money. |
| 02:51.34 | Violentnight | congrats |
| 02:51.41 | Violentnight | what?! |
| 02:52.01 | Tain | Getting a judgement and actually collecting are two differnet things. It's absurd. |
| 02:52.24 | Violentnight | Isn't the court supposed to order him to pay you X dollars? |
| 02:52.28 | Tain | The entire thing is nothing but a way for collection agencies to make money these days. You sell them your collection at a discount. |
| 02:52.39 | Tain | Yep, and they don't do anything about it if he doesn't. |
| 02:53.14 | Violentnight | fuckin A |
| 02:53.31 | Tain | I spent about 12 months after that trying to collect, and when I moved from the west coast back to the east coast there was just no way for me to continue trying to do it from here. |
| 02:53.56 | Tain | The only satisfaction I have is that it's on his court records. |
| 02:56.25 | Tain | So the moral of my story is, if you have to take someone to small claims court you are required to make one last attempt to work it out when you go to see the judge. If they offer you anything, take it. |
| 02:56.32 | Tain | Unless you have the time to spend. |
| 02:56.35 | Violentnight | there.. that'll show 'em |
| 02:58.31 | Tain | The other moral of my story is don't move 3000+ miles and then end up having to support a girlfriend who doesn't work for three years while living in one of the most expensive areas of the country. |
| 02:58.45 | Violentnight | ouch |
| 02:59.06 | Violentnight | how'd you let her get away with that for 3 years? |
| 02:59.10 | AnduinLothar | or just don't support anyone who isn't legally family |
| 02:59.53 | Tain | Well you don't sign up for 3 years in advance. :) |
| 03:00.20 | AnduinLothar | you do by getting married.. |
| 03:01.30 | Tain | Ah nothing good on TV. |
| 03:01.32 | Violentnight | lol yeah but... there's got to be some point where you say "get a job or get out" |
| 03:01.54 | Violentnight | (and that should be sooner than 3 years) =P |
| 03:02.04 | Tain | Well well there was more to it. |
| 03:02.18 | Tain | But the moral is, don't do it! |
| 03:02.26 | AnduinLothar | yes sirr |
| 03:02.42 | Violentnight | lol roger |
| 03:11.24 | zeeg | wewt |
| 03:11.26 | zeeg | 350 new users so far |
| 03:11.27 | zeeg | it wrosk! :D |
| 03:11.45 | Violentnight | wrosk? |
| 03:12.33 | AnduinLothar | congrats 350 gullible losers |
| 03:16.11 | zeeg | *works |
| 03:16.17 | zeeg | guillible losers? |
| 03:16.30 | Violentnight | ah cool |
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| 03:17.07 | AnduinLothar | you tricked them into registering by telling them they needed to register to download a patch, just for the thrill of getting more people registered... |
| 03:17.14 | cladhaire | lol |
| 03:17.30 | Violentnight | a patch for what? |
| 03:19.44 | zeeg | AnduinLothar, thats not the only reason |
| 03:19.51 | zeeg | and they do have to reg to download it |
| 03:19.51 | zeeg | :P |
| 03:21.12 | AnduinLothar | ok so that's worse. And you failed to express any other reasons in the previous conversation on the subject prior to implimentation. |
| 03:24.38 | cladhaire | I can never find the login on WG |
| 03:24.40 | cladhaire | it drives me insane |
| 03:24.43 | cladhaire | half the time it doesn't show up |
| 03:24.50 | kremonte | hmm, physics is just a lot of funny looking math, right? |
| 03:24.56 | cladhaire | and the ugly reg register should have a way to login too |
| 03:24.57 | kremonte | (to the layman) =p |
| 03:25.03 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 03:25.12 | AnduinLothar | pretty much, but so is programming |
| 03:25.22 | cladhaire | aye |
| 03:25.28 | kremonte | well |
| 03:25.30 | cladhaire | lamba calculus is fun =) |
| 03:25.35 | kremonte | chem is a (stupid) prerequisite for physics |
| 03:25.40 | kremonte | and i'm doing really bad in chem |
| 03:25.49 | kremonte | (though from what i've heard, my teacher is really bad) |
| 03:25.58 | AnduinLothar | i so wish i could make a global variable, this oo java crap is killing me |
| 03:26.03 | Tain | Chem is a good prereqs for physics. In me own opinion. :)( |
| 03:26.08 | cladhaire | Anduin: hehe |
| 03:26.16 | Tain | There's a lot of math involved in chemistry. |
| 03:26.16 | kremonte | Tain: pourquoi? |
| 03:27.03 | AnduinLothar | i just want a single counter global.... but i can't figure out what class to put it in and how to access it in the other classes |
| 03:27.13 | AnduinLothar | too many abstracts and impliments are owning me |
| 03:27.34 | kremonte | Tain: eh |
| 03:27.39 | kremonte | Tain: advanced chem maybe |
| 03:27.51 | kremonte | Tain: but my teacher is just some really dumb 3'tall lady |
| 03:28.06 | Tain | I'm only going by what I remember from high-school chem, it's been a while. |
| 03:28.53 | Tain | But honestly I think people should really need to take at least a beginning course in all of the major sciences if you're pursuing any education in that area long term. |
| 03:29.12 | kremonte | Tain: chem for me is pretty much, everbody gets bitched at because there's like 35 people in the class, do a lab that fails because the teacher can't catalyze anything for shit, write up a half finished lab report, get a B because nobody gets an A |
| 03:29.27 | Tain | Yeah, that sort of thing sucks. |
| 03:29.29 | kremonte | well, i want to be an engineer =P |
| 03:29.43 | kremonte | at this point though, i really don't have amazingly high hopes |
| 03:29.56 | kremonte | due to the horrible disorganization of my local district, i got fucked out of a year of math |
| 03:30.00 | kremonte | and half a year of sciences |
| 03:30.07 | Tain | My 1st year college calculus class had 5 people in it day 1, 2 people in it day 5. Because the school messed things up and put the wrong people in the wrong classes. |
| 03:30.17 | kremonte | sounds right |
| 03:30.19 | Tain | For the rest of that semester it was me and one other guy. |
| 03:30.36 | Tain | There'es nowhere to hide in that sort of class. :) |
| 03:30.37 | kremonte | my district "forgot" to have me take a prerequisite for my last semester math class |
| 03:30.48 | kremonte | so now i have to take math i was supposed to take a year ago, because they suck |
| 03:31.17 | kremonte | i'm probably going to take summer school with some crackhead rejects just so i can make an attempt at physics |
| 03:31.18 | Tain | Yep it does. I had something similar. It sucks. |
| 03:31.53 | kremonte | i really don't know that much of what an engineer really does |
| 03:31.55 | kremonte | but uh |
| 03:32.06 | kremonte | programming jobs for low wages doing menial low level work |
| 03:32.22 | kremonte | or being the IT guy that stays at work for 18 hours a day and doesn't get paid OT |
| 03:32.23 | kremonte | no thanks ;D |
| 03:32.53 | Tain | hehe yeah well that's the sort of thing you're looking at, which is why you have to find some way around it. :) |
| 03:33.20 | kremonte | yeah, i think inevitably computers will always be a pastime for me, unfortunately |
| 03:34.05 | Tain | Really not a bad thing, just because it is easy to lose interest in some of the hobbies when you have to do them all day at work. |
| 03:34.33 | kremonte | or the other way around, using computers restrictively at work building up anticipiation to do something fun |
| 03:34.40 | kremonte | but i regress. being an engineer looks cool |
| 03:35.22 | AnduinLothar | I plan on dying before i get a job i enjoy |
| 03:35.39 | kremonte | haha |
| 03:35.56 | kremonte | notice how i said "looks cool" as opposed to "looks fun" |
| 03:36.02 | kremonte | though hey, what do i know |
| 03:36.02 | AnduinLothar | and since I start work at blizz on monday I'm gonna have to do away with myself... sometime tomorrow |
| 03:36.13 | kremonte | LOL |
| 03:36.19 | kremonte | what aare you doing at blizz? |
| 03:36.41 | AnduinLothar | procrastinating my hw and take-home midterm due tues.. |
| 03:36.49 | kremonte | ah |
| 03:36.51 | kremonte | but what work? =p |
| 03:36.54 | kremonte | besides nothing |
| 03:36.56 | AnduinLothar | oh that.. |
| 03:37.06 | AnduinLothar | if i knew i wouldn't enjoy t |
| 03:37.44 | AnduinLothar | er nm |
| 03:38.01 | kremonte | oO? |
| 03:38.08 | AnduinLothar | more fun keeping secrets liek a REAL blizz employee |
| 03:38.32 | AnduinLothar | so i believe iw ill be told nothing and expected to make people believe i know things and am not telling them |
| 03:38.47 | AnduinLothar | when in fact i know nothing |
| 03:38.58 | kremonte | lol |
| 03:38.58 | AnduinLothar | i think that's the whole job description |
| 03:39.14 | Shadowd | That sounds like a pretty fun job |
| 03:39.28 | AnduinLothar | maybe post things occationally to make people think i have secrets |
| 03:39.59 | AnduinLothar | right shadowd, that's why tomorrow i kill myself |
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| 03:40.51 | AnduinLothar | unless i can't figure out this variable super oo crap soon, then it'll be sooner |
| 03:41.09 | kremonte | AnduinLothar: does that mean you get blue on forums? |
| 03:41.12 | kremonte | :D |
| 03:41.25 | AnduinLothar | nah, i doubt they'll let me say anythign official |
| 03:41.27 | kremonte | then you can post extremely vague stuff in priest forums just so they have blue posts |
| 03:41.29 | kremonte | aw |
| 03:41.57 | AnduinLothar | might be able to hack the servers tho and make my name <blink> |
| 03:42.29 | AnduinLothar | who am i kidding the servers are prolly in eurasia |
| 03:42.41 | AnduinLothar | or sudan |
| 03:42.45 | kremonte | hmm mechanical engineering |
| 03:42.47 | AnduinLothar | or south africa |
| 03:42.48 | kremonte | now that looks like a blast |
| 03:43.23 | AnduinLothar | problem is if you design you prolly dont impliment and if you do manufacturing u dont design.. |
| 03:43.46 | kremonte | huh |
| 03:44.10 | kremonte | like, you either make something work or you put stuff together? that sounds like a no brainer |
| 03:44.25 | AnduinLothar | it's not like legos where you come up with something and make it yourself. pick one |
| 03:44.46 | AnduinLothar | either way feedback and communication becomes half your job |
| 03:45.09 | kremonte | well i'm not bad at that |
| 03:45.13 | kremonte | but what do you mean? |
| 03:45.20 | kremonte | just the creative part of design? or |
| 03:46.03 | AnduinLothar | nah if you're creative you go broke. you have to spend time stealing other people's ideas and making them proffitable to make money |
| 03:46.35 | kremonte | lmao |
| 03:47.57 | kremonte | isn't it "cynical" |
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| 04:21.49 | kremonte | hahah |
| 04:21.56 | kremonte | portal welcome message on wowi |
| 04:21.58 | kremonte | "Weclome" |
| 04:59.02 | MentalPower | Goodnight guys! |
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| 06:25.40 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/guides/molten-core.php |
| 06:25.42 | zeeg | hows that look guys |
| 06:26.57 | Shadowd | You missed the part about the portal to see rag inside golem's room |
| 06:27.47 | Tain | I don't remember there being an ATM in Molten Core. Must be a wowguru thing. |
| 06:28.06 | zeeg | atm? |
| 06:28.25 | zeeg | what are you talkin about |
| 06:28.45 | Shadowd | Lucifron?s, any reason you have a question mark there? |
| 06:29.43 | zeeg | oh |
| 06:29.44 | zeeg | one sec |
| 06:29.51 | Shadowd | Never seen geh pulled with DS, usually just had the MT grab him, and two hunters pull the adds off to the OT's |
| 06:29.59 | zeeg | fixed |
| 06:30.54 | Shadowd | You also don't have any colors for Garr or Shaz, you may want to add them just so people understand |
| 06:31.19 | zeeg | colors? on the map or? |
| 06:32.02 | Shadowd | on the map, indicating which dot is what |
| 06:32.37 | zeeg | k |
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| 06:55.05 | zeeg | where's BWL located |
| 06:55.09 | zeeg | like in a dungeon or zone or what |
| 06:57.19 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 06:58.21 | Shadowd | uhh |
| 06:58.24 | Shadowd | so who wrote the guides? :p |
| 06:59.30 | zeeg | not me |
| 07:02.02 | Shadowd | BWL is located inside ZG, You need 20 arcanite bars to enter |
| 07:02.53 | zeeg | lol |
| 07:03.03 | zeeg | i went to ZG on someones account, im not *that* gullable :) |
| 07:03.20 | Shadowd | It's located underwater, which is why you didn't see it. |
| 07:03.23 | Shadowd | I'm not lying, ask AnduinLothar |
| 07:04.35 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?p=64533#post64533 |
| 07:06.40 | Shadowd | vBulletin Message |
| 07:06.40 | Shadowd | No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster |
| 07:06.40 | Shadowd | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:08.12 | zeeg | ya i just deleted |
| 07:08.14 | zeeg | spammers keep spamming |
| 07:08.20 | zeeg | and their url shows as BANNEDBANNEDBANNED |
| 07:08.20 | zeeg | :P |
| 07:08.27 | zeeg | Basic Razorgore strategy - http://www.wowguru.com/guides/blackwing-lair.php - good? |
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| 07:27.34 | zeeg | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=14601# vs http://www.wowguru.com/db/mobs/ebonroc-id14601 |
| 07:28.16 | Shadowd | Ebonroc doesn't cast brood power green o.O |
| 07:28.40 | Shadowd | or war stomp at that |
| 07:28.44 | Tain | Yay for allakhazam! |
| 07:29.09 | zeeg | Shadowd, beta ;| |
| 07:30.13 | zeeg | Shadowd, it kind of got stuck at the bottom of the debug list :) |
| 07:31.08 | Shadowd | ah |
| 07:31.39 | Shadowd | It seems kind of pointless to list Daze in that, since all NPC's can daze |
| 07:32.10 | Shadowd | And attack shouldn't effect the other percentages, since like 99% of the NPC's all have auto attack |
| 07:32.16 | zeeg | thats auto generated, i think daze is an effect that happened to the guy and it got tracked for some reason |
| 07:32.24 | zeeg | well attack is done inbetween other stuff |
| 07:32.30 | zeeg | is it not? |
| 07:32.38 | Shadowd | But it's always done, so it just skews the other percentages |
| 07:32.54 | zeeg | But it interrupts spell casting etc. Like.. |
| 07:32.58 | zeeg | you cant attack + cast at the same time |
| 07:33.26 | Shadowd | It was always something that annoyed me with alla/thottbot is they don't regonise stuff like Onyxia Hide Backup which always drop so isn't really a fair thing to give a percentage on |
| 07:34.43 | AnduinLothar | does it not say 100%? |
| 07:35.30 | Shadowd | It's not even on alla o.O |
| 07:35.41 | Shadowd | Oh wait it is, forgot it's a green |
| 07:35.43 | AnduinLothar | useless |
| 07:36.23 | zeeg | %'s are pretty much useless anyways |
| 07:36.28 | Shadowd | Well the head is listed as 47 and 28% drop rate and the bag 86%. It's not "omg the site sucks", but it always drops so kind of pointless to include |
| 07:36.31 | zeeg | you just need to know what mobs drop what item most of the time |
| 07:36.44 | zeeg | Shadowd, there's no easy way to know that tho |
| 07:37.00 | Shadowd | I never said to auto detect it, you can tell easly for some type of items though. |
| 07:37.20 | ForgottenLords | the item database is vast... |
| 07:37.26 | zeeg | alla/thott/wowguru are mostly automatic |
| 07:39.12 | Shadowd | You could make it fairly automatic |
| 07:39.16 | AnduinLothar | thott doesn't really rely much on the addon either. it mostly grabs your database files |
| 07:39.49 | AnduinLothar | just need the addon for profiles |
| 07:39.57 | AnduinLothar | and drop % |
| 07:40.20 | AnduinLothar | and map location i think |
| 07:41.21 | zeeg | ya |
| 07:41.23 | zeeg | same as everyone now |
| 07:41.40 | zeeg | Shadowd, not really, the only thing you could say is this is a quest item, so it MIGHT drop 100% of the time |
| 07:41.41 | zeeg | not all quest items do |
| 07:42.29 | Shadowd | Not talking about quest items as much, mostly things like heads and bags. |
| 07:42.39 | zeeg | those aren't for quests? |
| 07:42.45 | zeeg | are there some cases where they dont drop? |
| 07:43.02 | Tain | Psst Shadowd zeeg doesn't actually know anything about the game. |
| 07:43.06 | Shadowd | As far as I know, theres no case except a bug up where like Onyxia Head, Nefarian's head, Onyxia Hide backbag wont drop |
| 07:43.09 | Shadowd | Tain: I see that :p |
| 07:43.43 | zeeg | i played for 2 weeks |
| 07:43.46 | zeeg | and played zg a bit |
| 07:43.56 | zeeg | i know quite a bit, i just dont know everything |
| 07:44.29 | Shadowd | The number of mobs that actually drop non quest items 100% of the time is fairly low if i remember right |
| 07:44.38 | Shadowd | by non quest items I mean it's not for a quest but it can still start one |
| 07:45.04 | zeeg | hrmm idk anyway to really know if one is 100% guarantee if it doesnt always drop |
| 07:46.22 | Shadowd | Could be set manually for some of the things really |
| 07:47.58 | zeeg | ya but thottbot, im pretty sure doesnt do things manually, and I know I donj't (itd take a lot of extras just to do that) and im pretty sure alla has no plans |
| 07:52.23 | Shadowd | I don't really care anyway, just said it was annoying :p |
| 07:52.31 | Shadowd | s/anyway/either way/ |
| 07:54.27 | zeeg | reboot |
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| 08:34.08 | zeeg | Anyone here use "ItemStats" (eqdkp thing) |
| 08:50.05 | AnduinLothar | lol hunter just dkp'd [Halberd of Smiting] 3rd in our raid grp |
| 08:54.22 | End | neat, we finally down rangaros |
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| 09:08.39 | Kolth | zeeg: yes |
| 09:09.59 | zeeg | Kolth, can you walk me through what i would need to do to swap it to wowguru |
| 09:10.13 | Kolth | ooh :) |
| 09:10.29 | Kolth | I can't without doing lotsa readin! |
| 09:10.34 | Kolth | Have you installed it? |
| 09:11.39 | zeeg | nope |
| 09:11.44 | zeeg | people want it to use wg tho |
| 09:11.51 | Kolth | Know how it works? |
| 09:12.27 | zeeg | not a clue |
| 09:12.46 | Kolth | Data is taken from Alla when you view an individual item. |
| 09:13.08 | Kolth | That's about it. |
| 09:13.22 | Kolth | Works just like my loot script. |
| 09:17.40 | zeeg | hrm |
| 09:17.44 | zeeg | i wanna change it to wowguru tho ;) |
| 09:18.22 | Kolth | Yeah. |
| 09:18.29 | Kolth | Wanna see my script? |
| 09:19.03 | Kolth | It's 1. Check if item is in local DB, 2. If not, get from WoWGuru and store in local DB, 3. Return the item data we need. |
| 09:19.21 | Kolth | Would also say it needs to be XMLHTTPRequest |
| 09:19.55 | zeeg | well i can request it fine and all just not sure what i gotta do |
| 09:20.09 | Kolth | All EQDKP provides is an item name. |
| 09:20.54 | Kolth | So as the page loads, AJAX the tooltips / Textures |
| 09:22.17 | zeeg | hm |
| 09:24.03 | Kolth | EQDKP is easy to hack up too. |
| 09:27.27 | zeeg | hrmm |
| 09:27.32 | zeeg | honestly |
| 09:27.34 | zeeg | http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?747523 |
| 09:27.34 | zeeg | vs |
| 09:27.36 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/chars/id843241/ |
| 09:27.45 | zeeg | excluding what i dont show yet |
| 09:27.59 | Tain | Yay for allakhazam! |
| 09:28.40 | zeeg | anyone who has an opinion that isnt biased? |
| 09:28.51 | Kolth | Which is better? |
| 09:29.15 | zeeg | ya |
| 09:29.22 | Kolth | Allakhazam is lame. |
| 09:29.23 | zeeg | ooo I never thought about that |
| 09:29.27 | zeeg | their item tooltips are better |
| 09:29.35 | wereHamster | good morning europe |
| 09:29.44 | zeeg | ill have to do that |
| 09:29.52 | Kolth | zeeg, how do you mean? |
| 09:29.56 | zeeg | (highlight what items they have equipped from the set + only show bonuses for what they have) |
| 09:30.00 | Kolth | ahh |
| 09:30.02 | Kolth | noice |
| 09:30.24 | zeeg | i think thats the only real thing that they do better, is the equipment tab |
| 09:30.32 | zeeg | but they're very grahpic heavy too, i try not too be |
| 09:30.34 | Tain | Besides scamming people, of course. |
| 09:30.45 | zeeg | Tain |
| 09:30.48 | zeeg | will you shut the fuck up |
| 09:30.49 | zeeg | seirously |
| 09:30.49 | Kolth | Allakhazam makes Firefox lag |
| 09:31.32 | Tain | zeeg why are you so mean to me. :( |
| 09:31.46 | zeeg | Tain, because you obviously cant keep your mouth shut |
| 09:32.21 | Tain | That's no reason to swear at me for no reason. :( |
| 09:32.55 | zeeg | Tain, i have plenty of reason, knock it off |
| 09:33.41 | Tain | But I like allakhazam. I'm not allowed to? |
| 09:33.52 | zeeg | I dont give a rats ass what you like, stop causing trouble |
| 09:34.32 | Tain | Liking allakhazam is causing trouble? I dont' know what you're saying. :( |
| 09:44.14 | zeeg | So how come Cairenn never pops up when you start shit in hre |
| 09:44.23 | zeeg | I always thought that was kind of funny |
| 09:45.31 | AnduinLothar | She didn't sleep much last night. I'd immagine she's out cold |
| 09:45.58 | Tain | Yay for allakhazam! |
| 09:46.31 | kremonte | is there aw ay to mod yatlas to show instances :Q |
| 09:46.36 | kremonte | all the code is there, it looks like |
| 09:46.54 | AnduinLothar | prolly just needs the images |
| 09:47.01 | zeeg | yatlas = atlas? |
| 09:47.06 | AnduinLothar | and add the zones to the dropdown |
| 09:47.13 | AnduinLothar | no yatlas is diff |
| 09:47.14 | kremonte | AnduinLothar: has the images |
| 09:47.22 | kremonte | i don't understand mapID's and whatnot |
| 09:47.31 | AnduinLothar | try adding them to the dd menu and see if it works? |
| 09:47.45 | zeeg | they're there |
| 09:47.46 | kremonte | it's autogenerated by a multitude of ways, it looks like |
| 09:47.47 | AnduinLothar | my guess is it breaks the 'move to char' button too |
| 09:47.50 | zeeg | atlas has every map i think |
| 09:48.00 | kremonte | first entry in teh mapdb table = |
| 09:48.00 | kremonte | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:48.06 | AnduinLothar | zeeg. not atlas, yatlas |
| 09:48.11 | zeeg | k |
| 09:48.27 | zeeg | whats yatlas exactly? |
| 09:48.30 | zeeg | never heard of it before |
| 09:48.30 | AnduinLothar | some if statement is removing the isntances then |
| 09:48.38 | kremonte | no anduin |
| 09:48.45 | kremonte | it's basis is mapID's |
| 09:48.47 | kremonte | but |
| 09:48.51 | kremonte | (4line inc) |
| 09:48.54 | kremonte | Yatlas_WorldMapIds = { |
| 09:48.54 | kremonte | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:48.54 | kremonte | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:48.54 | kremonte | }; |
| 09:49.15 | AnduinLothar | Instance is 0 isn't it? |
| 09:49.24 | sarf|sleep | pr -1 |
| 09:49.28 | sarf|sleep | *or -1 |
| 09:49.37 | kremonte | for specific instances..? |
| 09:49.42 | kremonte | er'h |
| 09:49.48 | AnduinLothar | hey sarf, new patcher on the svn if you wanna test it |
| 09:50.05 | kremonte | each mapid = a zone |
| 09:50.08 | sarf|stuff | OK, will see. Need breakfast and then out to socialize with The Family (tm) |
| 09:50.12 | kremonte | you zone into instances, you zone between continents |
| 09:50.15 | Kolth | (c)? |
| 09:50.22 | sarf|stuff | Najh |
| 09:50.27 | sarf|stuff | *Nah. |
| 09:50.30 | Kolth | :) |
| 09:50.37 | Kolth | Family > Patchers |
| 09:50.42 | sarf|stuff | We don't have copyrights yet. ARR tho :) |
| 09:50.51 | Kolth | Good deal :) |
| 09:54.43 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cosmos_Patcher |
| 09:55.32 | AnduinLothar | It'll be hosted Soon? |
| 09:56.15 | AnduinLothar | As you can see there's > 2 pages of change log notes |
| 09:57.35 | zeeg | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.44 | zeeg | in-game. the talent icon borders change color, but does the text? |
| 09:57.56 | kremonte | huh? |
| 09:58.00 | zeeg | green, yellow, white |
| 09:58.05 | zeeg | (no border for white) |
| 09:58.08 | zeeg | doe text match the border? |
| 09:58.15 | kremonte | on the talent menu? |
| 09:58.34 | zeeg | ya for the #'s |
| 09:58.38 | zeeg | x/x |
| 09:58.39 | zeeg | is it always white? |
| 09:58.42 | kremonte | yes |
| 09:58.46 | zeeg | oh alright, thanks |
| 10:01.18 | AnduinLothar | lol /. - "Just as people fluent in two languages learn to suppress one language while speaking the other, so too are gamers adept at shutting out distractions to swiftly switch attention between different tasks." |
| 10:01.30 | Kolth | Saw that. |
| 10:01.31 | Kolth | weeeee |
| 10:02.25 | zeeg | Kolth, http://www.wowguru.com/db/chars/id843241/ |
| 10:02.27 | zeeg | click talents, look good? |
| 10:02.28 | AnduinLothar | anyway. sleep for now. See all you crazy euros later |
| 10:03.03 | Kolth | cyas Anduin! |
| 10:03.08 | Kolth | Oregon > * |
| 10:03.28 | Kolth | zeeg: Yes sir! |
| 10:03.43 | sarf|stuff | zeeg> I can't access talents with Opera |
| 10:03.50 | sarf|stuff | only get empty equipment screen |
| 10:03.52 | zeeg | sarf|stuff, can you access any tabs? |
| 10:04.00 | sarf|stuff | Negative. |
| 10:04.04 | zeeg | hrm |
| 10:04.10 | sarf|stuff | Except for toggling back to equipment |
| 10:04.10 | zeeg | and the equip screen doesnt show anything? |
| 10:04.11 | kremonte | its..all |
| 10:04.13 | kremonte | ToEPo_O |
| 10:04.17 | sarf|stuff | Yeah, it shows good |
| 10:04.20 | zeeg | oh |
| 10:04.23 | zeeg | everythings normal on it? |
| 10:04.39 | zeeg | so if you toggle to any other tab, it shows equip screen w/ no equip/etc.? |
| 10:05.02 | sarf|stuff | Yeah |
| 10:05.16 | sarf|stuff | Just a heads up :) |
| 10:05.17 | zeeg | does it have a debugger in opera? |
| 10:05.20 | sarf|stuff | Eh? |
| 10:05.24 | zeeg | (show any js errors?) |
| 10:05.57 | sarf|stuff | Yes |
| 10:06.22 | zeeg | can you paste the error? |
| 10:06.27 | sarf|stuff | No js error |
| 10:06.38 | zeeg | oh |
| 10:06.39 | zeeg | hrn |
| 10:06.53 | zeeg | im thinking maybe profile.style.backgroundImage doesnt work in opera |
| 10:06.58 | zeeg | i didnt even know people still used opera |
| 10:06.58 | zeeg | ;) |
| 10:07.16 | sarf|stuff | :) |
| 10:07.30 | sarf|stuff | I'm using it because it's fast enough to browse with while playing WoW |
| 10:07.34 | zeeg | oh |
| 10:07.36 | zeeg | why not use FF ? |
| 10:07.42 | kremonte | ff isn't .. .fast zeeg |
| 10:07.45 | kremonte | FF is a memory hog |
| 10:07.52 | kremonte | and the memory footprint of FF is one of it's ongoing problems =/ |
| 10:07.55 | sarf|stuff | Because I overload FF with plugins and it goes "slow" |
| 10:08.15 | zeeg | hrm |
| 10:08.19 | kremonte | good at everything |
| 10:08.22 | kremonte | best at nothing |
| 10:08.22 | kremonte | =/ |
| 10:08.29 | zeeg | i have a solution i think |
| 10:08.31 | zeeg | but im tired as hell |
| 10:08.38 | zeeg | so ill finish talents/try that tomorrow |
| 10:10.04 | sarf|stuff | Uploading image to ya, Zeeg |
| 10:10.31 | kremonte | wow i totally boned myself by exploring |
| 10:10.36 | kremonte | i just spirit ressed on my lock |
| 10:10.41 | kremonte | logged onto my mage, all gear red |
| 10:10.48 | sarf|stuff | Ouch |
| 10:10.49 | kremonte | logged onto my warrior, res sickness + drowning when i logged on |
| 10:10.58 | sarf|stuff | Haha |
| 10:11.00 | kremonte | logged onto my hunter, no ammo + fallign through the world |
| 10:11.10 | kremonte | i'm afraid to log onto my druid |
| 10:11.14 | kremonte | the zone is listed as blank |
| 10:11.14 | sarf|stuff | G'nite zeeg! |
| 10:11.20 | zeeg | thx |
| 10:11.26 | kremonte | mmm gn zeeg |
| 10:11.41 | kremonte | whatdya know |
| 10:11.47 | kremonte | druid all red, middle of old ironforge |
| 10:11.55 | kremonte | wtb money ;_; |
| 10:12.12 | sarf|stuff | WTB 900 gold (will pay 100g) |
| 10:12.22 | sarf|stuff | That's an actual IF quote from yesterday :) |
| 10:12.42 | kremonte | grr |
| 10:12.51 | kremonte | "Video Professor" infomercial is on tv |
| 10:12.58 | kremonte | i really just want to pick up the phone and call them |
| 10:13.06 | kremonte | "MAKE A FUCKING VIDEO FOR SLACKWARE, OH WAIT, YOU SUCK" |
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| 11:52.40 | AngelPrince | good morning guys |
| 11:52.50 | AngelPrince | anyone care to help me out plz? |
| 11:54.01 | AngelPrince | i need help with cosmos |
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| 12:12.26 | id` | morning |
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| 12:40.21 | Elkano | ho id` :) |
| 12:43.33 | wereHamster | Hi Elkano |
| 12:44.26 | Elkano | ho boo ;) |
| 13:04.16 | Elkano | anybody tested the new InterfaceAddonKit? |
| 13:05.05 | wereHamster | what's that? |
| 13:07.08 | Elkano | well, Blizzard will release an updated verion of their kit with 1.10 and today there appeared a sticky in our UI forums with a beta version |
| 13:07.57 | wereHamster | link? |
| 13:09.32 | Elkano | lol, check #11 at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=317211&p=1&tmp=1#post317211 |
| 13:09.51 | Elkano | btw: this is also the thread for the kit in the us forums ^^ |
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| 13:14.00 | wereHamster | hm.. can't extract the interface art data.. :( |
| 13:14.20 | Elkano | but it's not fair :/ US get's another person for UI staff and DE still hase 'none' (you can't count our CMs since they seem to not read that forum :/ ) |
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| 13:17.45 | elema | does the texture arg of GetContainerItemInfo() return the whole texture path ("Interface\Icons\bla.blp") or just the tex name ( bla.blp)? |
| 13:18.46 | Elkano | good question.. try it :) |
| 13:18.46 | wereHamster | elema, I think the whole path.. |
| 13:19.22 | wereHamster | so you can use it in Settexture(..) |
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| 13:27.17 | elema | good |
| 13:32.51 | MentalPower | correct me if I'm wrong: The ChatFrameX frames are "ScrollingMessageFrame"? |
| 13:37.08 | elema | if I use joinchannelbyname(name) it will join the name channel or, if it doesn't exist, it will create it and then join it right ? |
| 13:37.50 | MentalPower | I believe so, yes |
| 13:38.31 | wereHamster | elema, right |
| 13:38.52 | wereHamster | toy don't need to 'create' channels.. you just join or leave them |
| 13:38.59 | wereHamster | s/toy/you/ |
| 13:52.43 | id` | Whats this thing.. i see it on an item |
| 13:52.47 | id` | Absorption (10) |
| 13:53.07 | id` | works like block? |
| 13:53.18 | Wobin_ | I believe so |
| 13:54.05 | id` | ok |
| 13:55.01 | Wobin_ | Chest - Lesser Absorption, 5% chance to absorb 25 dam |
| 14:16.07 | elema | how can I script, that wow will call instead of a blizzardish function my function ( instead of blizz's LeaveBattleground() BGC_LeaveBattleground() ) |
| 14:21.30 | elema | would wow when I hook my function to blizz's only call mine and NOT blizz's ? |
| 14:24.16 | wereHamster | elema, LeaveBattleground = BGC_LeaveBattleground |
| 14:25.09 | wereHamster | elema, this is better: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_a_Function |
| 14:25.15 | elema | ok |
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| 14:32.28 | elema | can I un hook also ? |
| 14:32.37 | elema | unhook |
| 14:37.11 | MentalPower | yes |
| 14:37.45 | MentalPower | but do it carefully or you might cause conflicts with other AddOns |
| 14:38.23 | elema | hmm |
| 14:38.23 | MentalPower | if you're going to do a lot of unhooking, I STRONGLY suggest you use a hooking library (Sea, Stubby, AceHooks) |
| 14:39.21 | Tain | You really should just leave it hooked unless you absolutely feel you have to unhook. The problem is you have no way of knowing what other addons could have hooked the same function after you, so if you unhook you can return the original function, but you'd destroy their hooks in the process. |
| 14:40.27 | elema | ok |
| 14:48.38 | clad|sleep | mmmm i love hooking |
| 14:48.46 | krka | never any real need to unhook imo |
| 14:49.11 | clad|sleep | krka: there are some reasoable needs |
| 14:49.24 | clad|sleep | but it all depends on application |
| 14:49.24 | krka | but they are very rare |
| 14:49.53 | cladhaire | so i got a Hanzo Sword from turning in Runecloth bandages yesterday |
| 14:49.56 | cladhaire | *cheer* |
| 14:49.58 | elema | this would work?: BattlegroundCommunicatorOrig_LeaveBattlefield = LeaveBattlefeld; |
| 14:49.58 | elema | LeaveBattlefield = BGC_LeaveBattlefield; |
| 14:50.31 | Tain | Hanzo Sword should be more powerful. It does not live up to its name. |
| 14:50.46 | cladhaire | aye |
| 14:50.47 | Wobin_ | It was all product placement in KB =) |
| 14:51.15 | Wobin_ | I swear Heinz should have labeled the ketchup used in the majority of the scenes |
| 14:52.13 | elema | cladhaire: was that a yes ? ;) |
| 14:52.45 | elema | or just an aye for tain's thing |
| 14:57.42 | Wobin_ | Yes that would work, but it would cause problems like what Tain said |
| 14:58.42 | cladhaire | it was for tain's, cause what you wrote will work.. but =) |
| 14:58.46 | cladhaire | <repeat tain here> |
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| 15:07.47 | elema | so how is it better ? |
| 15:09.07 | cladhaire | Its fine if you never unhook =) |
| 15:09.14 | cladhaire | if you unhook there's some trickery you should include. |
| 15:11.38 | wereHamster | wouldn't it be better to never unhook and have a "if (hookActive) then ... else ... end" in the new function ? |
| 15:16.12 | cladhaire | yes |
| 15:16.15 | cladhaire | except |
| 15:16.15 | cladhaire | you should unhook when you can |
| 15:16.26 | cladhaire | cause the extra function call can be a bad thing for performance.. depending on what you're hooking |
| 15:16.49 | elema | hmm ok |
| 15:46.12 | elema | can some good scripter look at this(http://pastebin.com/551255) and look whther this gives me a working timer ( statusbar timer ( xml is here:http://pastebin.com/551257) |
| 15:46.15 | elema | tanks a lot |
| 15:46.19 | elema | thanks |
| 15:48.29 | wereHamster | local starttime = this.startTime; .. make variables local |
| 15:49.37 | elema | ok |
| 15:49.59 | elema | aynthing other would work ? |
| 15:50.50 | wereHamster | and I've noticed that you don't use 'maxtime', you only calculate it |
| 15:52.19 | elema | true, I'll replace this.MaxValue after defining maxtime with maxtime |
| 15:53.19 | elema | reworked lua : http://pastebin.com/551268 |
| 15:55.37 | elema | http://pastebin.com/551273 |
| 15:57.22 | elema | if you find something bad in it please send an e-mail to aragost_elemakil@yahoo.de, cause I'll go off now |
| 15:57.25 | elema | cya guys |
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| 16:11.51 | Cairenn | yo |
| 16:11.58 | cladhaire | HEyas Cairenn |
| 16:12.01 | Wobin_ | yo |
| 16:20.32 | Wobin_ | bye all =) See you in China =P |
| 16:22.23 | Cairenn | later Wobin_ |
| 16:22.31 | [MoonWolf] | have fun |
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| 17:56.19 | id` | Anyone here ever made any textures for WoW? |
| 17:57.26 | id` | I wanna design my own UI |
| 17:57.26 | id` | :p |
| 17:59.13 | wereHamster|afk | AFAIK they have to be pot (power-of-two), for example 64x128 but I think blizzards textures are all square (64x64 or 128x128 etc), I've seen so strnage texture 'corruption' with non-pot textures |
| 18:00.37 | wereHamster|afk | the format is BLP, I've used GIMP, but don't remember the exact export options |
| 18:00.47 | id` | hte problem is that i dont know how to export and stuff |
| 18:00.52 | id` | wereHamster|afk: you can use tga too |
| 18:01.11 | id` | downloading the gimp ;) |
| 18:01.59 | wereHamster|afk | correction: I've saved all my textures as TGA.. |
| 18:07.49 | id` | :p |
| 18:08.44 | id` | anime music ftw |
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| 18:24.37 | sarf|WoW | You can use JPG textures too |
| 18:24.47 | sarf|WoW | (but not if you want to overwrite textures in the data path) |
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| 18:29.25 | wowguru-3858 | umm |
| 18:33.56 | Cairenn | id`: the file dimensions need to be power of two, although the actual image doesn't. WoW reads .tga just fine. Don't forget to save your alpha channel |
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| 19:40.34 | id` | http://www.worldofwar.net/comics/randomravings/006.php |
| 19:40.34 | id` | tee hee |
| 19:43.45 | id` | http://www.worldofwar.net/comics/randomravings/018.php |
| 19:43.46 | id` | whahaha' |
| 19:44.04 | id` | "Right-O Oh! Now he's pissed" |
| 19:44.05 | id` | loll |
| 20:12.46 | wereHamster | anyone remember that unofficial performance improvement trick using /console M2faster 1 ? |
| 20:14.24 | wereHamster | there are more M2?? options.. |
| 20:14.39 | wereHamster | M2BatchDoodads: combine doodads to reduce batch count |
| 20:14.54 | wereHamster | M2UseThreads: multithread model animations |
| 20:15.07 | wereHamster | and some more.. |
| 20:16.05 | cladhaire | no idea were =/ |
| 20:18.31 | wereHamster | http://wow.pastebin.com/551622 .. starting from line 7 up to 21, there is always the option and on the next line the description.. |
| 20:20.04 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 20:24.24 | wereHamster | but none of the options improved my framerate.. :( |
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| 20:44.30 | wereHamster | haha.. that's a slash-command for GMs: Usage: worldport <continentID> [x y z] [facing] |
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| 21:45.31 | sweede | got a simple question.. |
| 21:46.22 | sweede | is there an addon, up-to-date, that can event details to the chatlogs ? |
| 21:51.26 | id` | details of? |
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| 22:19.47 | sweede | whats happening.. like if there's a yell or an emote from a boss, what event fires it |
| 22:19.58 | sweede | or if a mob starts to cast a spell, what event it is. |
| 22:20.24 | Shadowd | CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL is when a boss yells |
| 22:20.35 | Shadowd | You can probably just check the Wiki though since it usually says |
| 22:21.00 | sweede | not all spell casts are in the wiki.. |
| 22:21.23 | Shadowd | Well, for yell/emote type of stuff you can at least find that on the wiki. |
| 22:46.12 | cladhaire | you could propbably hook addmessage, and then dump event which may still be the global event name. |
| 22:46.14 | cladhaire | i wonder.. hrm |
| 22:46.25 | cladhaire | let me check for you |
| 22:46.31 | cladhaire | it won't be 100% mind you |
| 22:46.55 | cladhaire | (and it'll take a second before i get it done.. i'm in the queue) |
| 22:48.21 | cladhaire | You looking for the combat log, or the main message frame? |
| 22:48.23 | cladhaire | i can do both i suppose. |
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| 23:21.21 | AnduinLothar | New IsMounted |
| 23:22.14 | kremonte | wot's that do |
| 23:22.16 | kremonte | just a function? |
| 23:22.35 | Gryphen | ya |
| 23:22.42 | AnduinLothar | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2667 |
| 23:33.22 | SP|Sorren | can it dismount you? |
| 23:33.29 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.31 | SP|Sorren | ah neat |
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| 23:43.14 | SP|Sorren | does lua have xor? |
| 23:52.54 | cladhaire | Sweede is gone isn't he. |
| 23:52.57 | cladhaire | just wrote an addon for him |
| 23:56.41 | SP|Sorren | arg |
| 23:56.44 | SP|Sorren | anyone know how to use bitlib? |