| 00:00.07 | kremonte | nVidia's GLX hits ATI for 128mb RAM damage |
| 00:00.26 | Tem | nVidia has defeated ATI in a duel |
| 00:00.28 | Kirkburn | So we've moved onto hardware now? |
| 00:00.32 | kremonte | lol |
| 00:00.38 | Tem | Microsoft has fled from Linux in a duel |
| 00:00.39 | kremonte | nah, ati just sucks on linux |
| 00:00.39 | Kirkburn | You're forgetting the cables and case |
| 00:00.58 | kremonte | Intel's Pentium is dismissed |
| 00:01.01 | kremonte | :D |
| 00:01.29 | Tem | I think Bill Gates is the guy who stands in the fire in the AH |
| 00:01.46 | kremonte | ?bill gates is the final boss in BRD isnt he? |
| 00:01.56 | Kirkburn | I thought he was the Microsoft boss? |
| 00:02.01 | Fanook | i thought he was Ochimaru... |
| 00:02.07 | kremonte | microsoft was too buggy, was removed in 1.5 |
| 00:02.21 | Kirkburn | Ooh, nice comeback to my satire |
| 00:02.35 | kremonte | =P |
| 00:02.56 | Tem | and that whole time no one made a single mac reference |
| 00:03.08 | Kirkburn | I hate macs |
| 00:03.12 | kremonte | Tem: mac is like priest |
| 00:03.19 | kremonte | it doesnt need a nerf OR a buff |
| 00:03.19 | Kirkburn | Oh, I mean I hate *nothing* |
| 00:03.28 | kremonte | :D |
| 00:03.38 | GenNMX|Thrae | kremonte: Oh, just like Shamans? |
| 00:03.42 | kremonte | GenNMX|Thrae: lol |
| 00:03.53 | Tem | I really hate them |
| 00:03.59 | GenNMX|Thrae | Wait, I forgot -- Shamans need some buffs according to them. |
| 00:04.07 | Tem | hah |
| 00:04.14 | AnduinLothar | Jobs own the largest share in disney... |
| 00:04.28 | Kirkburn | Like a priest who spends their day charging people for heals and cures |
| 00:04.38 | kremonte | [1. Arathi Basin - General] [Itsapaladin] fuken shaman shock is so gey omg fukin blizard |
| 00:04.52 | GenNMX|Thrae | Steve Jobs officially makes $1 a year from his job as the Apple CEO. Unofficially, he owns a lot of Apple anyway. |
| 00:05.05 | kremonte | lol |
| 00:05.10 | Kirkburn | So in no way a fat cat then? |
| 00:05.27 | Kirkburn | Just a poor dragon who sleeps on a masssssive pile of gold |
| 00:05.34 | GenNMX|Thrae | No, Jobs is pretty rich, that's why he doesn't care about how much Apple pays him. |
| 00:05.52 | GenNMX|Thrae | He's the lowest paid CEO in the world! |
| 00:06.00 | Kirkburn | It annoys me how MP3 players are now called iPods |
| 00:06.18 | Kirkburn | In fact it annoys me that they're called MP3 players |
| 00:06.19 | kremonte | Steve Jobs, Apple Corp, $1 0/100 |
| 00:06.25 | kremonte | 'yes my paycheck is here!' |
| 00:06.36 | kremonte | Kirkburn: oi! ogg players ftw!! |
| 00:06.38 | AnduinLothar | direct deposit |
| 00:06.39 | GenNMX|Thrae | iRiver, iHemaraoids, iDiapers |
| 00:06.59 | GenNMX|Thrae | Hey iPods are pretty cool -- you can put Linux on 'em and play Ogg :D |
| 00:06.59 | Kirkburn | Well, this is my point |
| 00:07.11 | AnduinLothar | suc a hater |
| 00:07.13 | Guillotine | too many ppl complain to nerf druids... |
| 00:07.16 | Iriel | Dont mistake 'low salary' for 'low pay' |
| 00:07.16 | AnduinLothar | such* |
| 00:07.16 | Kirkburn | It's an iPod *if it's a an iPod* |
| 00:07.21 | kremonte | http://www.electric-chicken.co.uk/itoilet.html |
| 00:07.34 | Kirkburn | It's an MP3 players *if it plays MP3s* |
| 00:07.51 | GenNMX|Thrae | Yes, I hate the Druid haters. "OMG thiz Druid kept runnin away n killed me in 30 minutes!!!!!1" |
| 00:08.02 | Kirkburn | if it's a toilet *sit on it* |
| 00:08.05 | GenNMX|Thrae | I'm an official Druid Hater Hater. |
| 00:08.27 | Kirkburn | WoW: One big hate-hate fest |
| 00:08.47 | Kirkburn | Thus PvP works |
| 00:08.48 | GenNMX|Thrae | And people STILL ask for cross-faction communication in PvP realms! |
| 00:09.02 | Kirkburn | And still try to get around it |
| 00:09.35 | Kirkburn | There is one problem I've found - when you choose a side, it's VERY hard to change |
| 00:10.15 | Kirkburn | Wish guilds would LAST |
| 00:10.35 | Kirkburn | A poll: which class is worst off at the moment? |
| 00:11.06 | Tem | My vote there would be mages |
| 00:11.08 | Tem | but I'm biased |
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| 00:12.03 | Kirkburn | Honey I killed the conversation! |
| 00:13.33 | Guillotine | Kirk: Shamans |
| 00:13.46 | Guillotine | wait- worst off for winning or worst off for losing? |
| 00:13.54 | Guillotine | b/c shamans sure have a hard time losing... |
| 00:14.00 | Kirkburn | Curse is back up! |
| 00:14.07 | Guillotine | yay! |
| 00:14.09 | Guillotine | ty for info! |
| 00:14.11 | Kirkburn | Just generally worst off |
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| 00:14.22 | Guillotine | I'd say... mages maybe |
| 00:14.43 | Guillotine | or maybe priests |
| 00:14.55 | Guillotine | well, as worst off b/c their forced to spec a certain way |
| 00:14.59 | Guillotine | and then its not all that fun |
| 00:15.27 | Guillotine | Kirkburn: curse is still down for me... |
| 00:15.33 | Kirkburn | oh |
| 00:16.23 | Cairenn | can anyone verify for me that the bug which was causing the addon button to not show up on character select screen was fixed already? |
| 00:16.31 | Cairenn | I seem to recall it being fixed ... |
| 00:16.34 | Tem | more than once |
| 00:16.51 | Tem | Cairenn: I think it's in the 1.9 changes thread |
| 00:17.08 | Iriel | Cairenn : yes, it's fixed |
| 00:17.12 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=306498&s=new&tmp=1#new |
| 00:17.15 | Cairenn | that's what I thought |
| 00:17.29 | Iriel | Of course, if you install your addons wrong, it doesn't show up 8-) |
| 00:17.53 | Cairenn | yeah, no kidding |
| 00:18.45 | Kirkburn | But I thought they all went in Windows\System32! |
| 00:18.57 | Cairenn | like, hello, "it doesn't work" doesn't tell us jack shit, what do you expect? |
| 00:19.01 | krka | Cairenn! can you approve my addon pretty please+ |
| 00:19.18 | Kirkburn | She's just approved mine: ClearFont v10900-2 http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4283 |
| 00:19.26 | Cairenn | ummmm, sure, whenever you upload it :p |
| 00:19.33 | krka | i already did! i think |
| 00:19.38 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:20.00 | krka | if I lost all that text I wrote I will be upset :/ |
| 00:20.18 | Cairenn | I'm not the only admin/moderator on the site, and the approval queue is empty, so I'm guessing someone else already got them |
| 00:20.48 | krka | rejected then |
| 00:21.06 | krka | hmm.. no wait |
| 00:21.07 | krka | never mind |
| 00:21.34 | krka | i guess i was just expecting some sort of notification |
| 00:21.40 | Kirkburn | The number of downloads I get constantly amazes me, I never thought I'd get more than 1,000! |
| 00:21.45 | Guillotine | krka: you probably forgot to submit it. I'm pretty sure WoWI doesn't reject many addons ;) |
| 00:22.08 | Kirkburn | Make sure you have you addon info IN A TXT FILE somwhere! |
| 00:22.08 | krka | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4524 |
| 00:22.10 | krka | no, there it is |
| 00:22.31 | Guillotine | Kirkburn: my first addon (completely useless. adds /leeroy that yells "LEEEEROOY JEEEENKIINS" and plays the sound) has just over 15,000 dls. Whereas my actually USEFUL one has only about 10k :/ |
| 00:22.40 | krka | heh |
| 00:23.01 | Kirkburn | Oh it was YOU |
| 00:23.02 | krka | i have 1 download! yay |
| 00:23.30 | Cairenn | so, just got back from watching Underworld:Evolution, was not bad |
| 00:23.37 | Cairenn | predictable, but not bad |
| 00:23.46 | Cairenn | she looks hot, per usual |
| 00:23.55 | Guillotine | ROFL. read your info krka. it replaces Object:PerForm with the smiley |
| 00:23.58 | Kirkburn | Don't all english wimmen? |
| 00:24.11 | Cairenn | real good sex scene in there |
| 00:24.16 | krka | haha |
| 00:24.20 | krka | didnt notice that |
| 00:24.22 | Iriel | Cairenn : hm, so not as terrible as sequels tend to go? |
| 00:24.28 | krka | can I turn smileys off? |
| 00:24.36 | Kirkburn | Well to make you feel small Guillotine, I have more than 32,000 now! :s |
| 00:24.44 | Cairenn | Iriel: no, not as bad as we've come to expect, thank goodness |
| 00:24.57 | Kirkburn | Better than original? |
| 00:25.13 | Cairenn | no |
| 00:25.16 | Cairenn | at least, not imo |
| 00:25.19 | Guillotine | Kirkburn: lol. I've wanted to delete my leeroy addon. its humiliating having SO many dls on such a pointless addon. Also, 5 addons on curse directly taken from my addon with just the audio file called changed |
| 00:25.36 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 00:25.50 | Cairenn | I will pick it up on DVD when it comes out, but the original was better, as is the norm |
| 00:27.23 | kremonte | Guillotine: why did you make /leeroy? |
| 00:27.33 | Guillotine | kremonte: must have been having a brain lapse |
| 00:27.41 | kremonte | Guillotine: ah, understandable |
| 00:27.41 | Guillotine | kremonte: saw the movie, and thought it was funny |
| 00:27.46 | kremonte | Guillotine: noo! |
| 00:27.51 | kremonte | it's not funny |
| 00:27.54 | kremonte | D: |
| 00:28.18 | Kirkburn | The short-lived Chuck Norris mod got massive amounts of hate when it was up on ui.worldofwar |
| 00:28.27 | kremonte | chuck norris mod? |
| 00:28.35 | GenNMX|Thrae | <@Cairenn> she looks hot, per usual <@Cairenn> real good sex scene in there <-- this only enforces what I've already been thinking... |
| 00:28.45 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4514 |
| 00:28.51 | kremonte | Guillotine: my friend showed me that movie when i still avidly played FFXI, and was one of the main reasons i didn't get WoW till august last year |
| 00:29.01 | Kirkburn | Yeah that one |
| 00:29.04 | Guillotine | kremonte: rofl |
| 00:29.15 | Kirkburn | It got taken down from uo.worldofwar whihc was disappointing |
| 00:30.13 | Cairenn | why? |
| 00:30.15 | Kirkburn | Freedom to make what addons you like is more important, imo |
| 00:30.46 | Kirkburn | Just cause some people get angry over a game wasn't reason to remove it |
| 00:31.02 | krka | would be nice if any of you could try this and read the instructions and see if you can figure it out. if not, i need to improve my instructions. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4524 |
| 00:33.01 | Kirkburn | For coders it looks good, but for a non-coder like me, it'll never make sense. I'd say your info is quite erudite however |
| 00:33.26 | Kirkburn | Does it come with a readme? |
| 00:33.56 | Kirkburn | If not, I'd recommend writing one |
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| 00:34.15 | Cairenn | so, anyone here really good at writing ad copy/news release? |
| 00:34.45 | Kirkburn | Why? |
| 00:35.03 | Cairenn | cause I need to write something up and darned if I know how :p |
| 00:35.48 | Cairenn | lol, ooookay, that was odd :p |
| 00:35.57 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 00:37.11 | Cairenn | cladhaire: you there? |
| 00:37.54 | GenNMX|Thrae | Grrr, GUIs are evil. Long-live text-based internet! |
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| 00:38.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Here here! |
| 00:38.17 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:38.37 | krka | I'd argue that flexbar is even harder than my system, yet non-coders seem able to use it |
| 00:38.49 | krka | flexbar is better documented though |
| 00:39.39 | GenNMX|Thrae | Lua and Ace weren't too hard to learn, but AceGUI is confusing. |
| 00:39.49 | krka | anyway, mine doesn't really need to be perfect, just good enough that it gets noticed and someone smarter makes a better variant :) |
| 00:40.06 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=306498&s=new&tmp=1#new |
| 00:40.27 | Tem | Kirkburn: ClearFont, Oooh! Siny! |
| 00:40.34 | Tem | s/Siny/Shiny/ |
| 00:40.47 | Cairenn | lol, Tem is on a "Ooooh! Shiny!" kick atm |
| 00:40.56 | Tem | well... it is |
| 00:41.10 | Tem | I'm in one of those moods where I get distracted easily |
| 00:41.17 | Tem | most notably by shiny objects |
| 00:41.28 | GenNMX|Thrae | What's ClearFont? Does it make your fonts transparent? |
| 00:41.34 | Tem | no |
| 00:41.38 | Kirkburn | That's a possibility |
| 00:41.40 | Kirkburn | But no |
| 00:41.42 | Tem | it's just another one of those Font repleacer addons |
| 00:41.54 | GenNMX|Thrae | "Excellent, now I can't read anything! A very nude UI." |
| 00:41.59 | Tem | just the first that I actually found the fonts included pleasing to the eye |
| 00:41.59 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4283 |
| 00:42.01 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:42.09 | Tem | oh man |
| 00:42.14 | Tem | someone hit me |
| 00:42.17 | Kirkburn | Hey, what do u mean 'just another' |
| 00:42.28 | Tem | well theres like 103924870198323 of them |
| 00:42.28 | Kirkburn | I've only ever found Fontabulous |
| 00:42.49 | Tem | oh, well maybe I just assumed there was lots of them |
| 00:43.00 | Kirkburn | Not as far as I've ever seen |
| 00:43.01 | Cairenn | nope, there's like, 2 |
| 00:43.07 | Kirkburn | And mine's best :) |
| 00:43.14 | Cairenn | Kirkburns and Devla's |
| 00:43.25 | Cairenn | s/kirkburns/kirkburn's/ |
| 00:43.49 | Kirkburn | CF was actually based off Devla's Fontabulous |
| 00:43.50 | GenNMX|Thrae | Tem: Comment on Fontabulous's page -- "Very nice...now only if it didn't have 'tab' in its name." |
| 00:44.07 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:44.10 | Cairenn | you're joking, right? |
| 00:44.11 | Tem | huh? |
| 00:44.14 | Tem | I'm confused |
| 00:44.18 | GenNMX|Thrae | I'm joking :D |
| 00:44.29 | Tem | I think it's a reference to the retarded comment someone made on Tab last night |
| 00:44.29 | Cairenn | last night, the guy bitching about Tab being bound to the tab key |
| 00:44.37 | krka | looks good |
| 00:44.42 | Kirkburn | Fonulous? |
| 00:44.56 | Kirkburn | Where's the 'Any' key?!? |
| 00:45.09 | Tain | Yeah I want scroll-lock complete. |
| 00:45.23 | krka | damn, clearfont requires modifying blizz stuff? |
| 00:45.39 | Kirkburn | it's just one file in a different place |
| 00:45.53 | Kirkburn | It can't/won't cause any problems |
| 00:46.06 | Guillotine | ahhh. the joys of MCing someone off of a boat right before it leaves menethil harbor... |
| 00:46.19 | krka | until next patch maybe |
| 00:46.21 | Kirkburn | Come 1.10 it'll all be converted over to lua thanks to the wonderful iriel |
| 00:46.23 | krka | you can MC same faction? |
| 00:46.31 | Kirkburn | Er, no. |
| 00:46.32 | Guillotine | if their stupid enough to duel you |
| 00:46.42 | Kirkburn | By a cliff.. |
| 00:46.55 | Guillotine | im loving level 30 as a priest... |
| 00:46.59 | Guillotine | wishing I was on a pvp server though |
| 00:47.05 | krka | you could swim as a horde priest to menethil and hide in the water and do MC maybe? :) |
| 00:47.12 | Tain | That's just mean. |
| 00:47.12 | Kirkburn | God, that's EVIL |
| 00:47.16 | Tain | And not even in a funny way. |
| 00:47.23 | krka | a little bit funny |
| 00:47.27 | Kirkburn | Going into BRS ... BAD |
| 00:47.52 | Tem | Heh.. |
| 00:47.56 | Kirkburn | Oh, so you wanted to stay ON the chain? Oh, sorry, I thought u liked lava |
| 00:48.09 | Tem | just the other day me and 2 guildmates wiped and entire horde raid waiting to go into BRS |
| 00:48.24 | Guillotine | hehe. I only did it to 1 guy. was trying to scam ppl by telling htem oily blackmouths made you invulnerable for 2 minutes |
| 00:48.47 | Kirkburn | Yeah, it's more like 30 minutes |
| 00:48.47 | Tem | it was me (mage) a priest and a warrior |
| 00:48.59 | Tem | the priest MCed their healer and threw him into the lava |
| 00:48.59 | Kirkburn | Tem: how? |
| 00:49.17 | Tem | we were standing on that shortcut so they couldn't get to us from where they were |
| 00:49.29 | Tem | I AoEed the crap out of them |
| 00:49.32 | Kirkburn | What shortcut? |
| 00:49.34 | Tem | imp blizzard ftw |
| 00:49.47 | Tem | you don't know the way to the BRS entrance without pulling anything? |
| 00:50.11 | Tem | run in from the north |
| 00:50.14 | Tem | to left |
| 00:50.17 | Tem | go* left |
| 00:50.32 | Tem | run up like you are going to get on the chain to go to BRD |
| 00:50.38 | Tem | but run to the top of the chain |
| 00:50.40 | Tem | and fall off |
| 00:50.50 | Tem | then run up towards the balcony of brs |
| 00:50.54 | Guillotine | lol. i didn't even know about the long way |
| 00:50.55 | Guillotine | until someone did it |
| 00:50.59 | Guillotine | I've always used the shortcut |
| 00:51.00 | Tem | you can jump to it |
| 00:51.03 | Tem | yeah me too Guillotine |
| 00:51.04 | Kirkburn | Oh that one |
| 00:51.13 | Tem | we were standing there |
| 00:51.17 | kremonte | what long way? :Q |
| 00:51.19 | Tem | I aoed them with imp blizzard |
| 00:51.29 | Tem | at some point the priest hopping in and feared |
| 00:51.47 | Tem | some of them accidently pulled 8 or so mobs from the fear |
| 00:51.49 | Guillotine | I wish my priest was on an RP PVP server |
| 00:52.05 | Guillotine | so that I could rp a maniacal priest that likes throwing ppl off cliffs |
| 00:52.07 | Guillotine | and drowning them |
| 00:52.15 | Guillotine | and then I could actually do it |
| 00:52.32 | Tem | meanwhile I continued to criple them from afar |
| 00:52.40 | Tem | the warrior also jumped in and feared |
| 00:52.42 | Tem | it was good fun |
| 00:53.27 | Cairenn | Guillotine: hehe. I only did it to 1 guy. was trying to scam ppl by telling htem oily blackmouths made you invulnerable for 2 minutes |
| 00:53.41 | Cairenn | so are you saying *you* were trying to scam people? or that he was? |
| 00:53.48 | Guillotine | he was. so I mced him off the boat |
| 00:53.55 | Cairenn | okay |
| 00:53.57 | Tem | how did you know? |
| 00:54.06 | Guillotine | b/c i see him telling ppl in general chat... |
| 00:54.10 | Guillotine | he was also alliance. i dueld him |
| 00:54.11 | Tem | but... |
| 00:54.14 | Tem | then how did you MC him? |
| 00:54.19 | Guillotine | ^^ in a duel |
| 00:54.22 | Tem | oh |
| 00:54.29 | Tem | pwnt |
| 00:54.36 | Guillotine | cairenn: I know better than to scam ppl :P |
| 00:54.50 | Cairenn | thought so, but wanted it clarified :p |
| 00:54.51 | Guillotine | you really don't trust me very far, do you? |
| 00:55.01 | Cairenn | >< |
| 00:55.02 | AnduinLothar | hard to throw a virtual entity |
| 00:55.30 | Kirkburn | Could he pass the turing test? |
| 00:55.48 | Cairenn | huh? |
| 00:56.12 | Kirkburn | If a program can fool a human into thinking it is also human, it passes |
| 00:56.19 | Tain | He may have deserved it. I just find any kind of pvp-type behavior (that isn't an "honorable" duel) annoying. |
| 00:56.43 | Tain | When it's not a pvp server. |
| 00:56.52 | GenNMX|Thrae | I was about to say, Tain ;) |
| 00:57.10 | Tain | Like the necros who are oh so cool letting their nonsense loose to aggro on people in the auction house. |
| 00:57.11 | Guillotine | Tain: actually, i didn't throw him off. I mced him until he was at the edge of the boat then thought better of it and deactivated MC. somehow he fell in though |
| 00:57.12 | Kirkburn | Sneaky request: rate ClearFont as 5 wherever you see it :p Even if it's not on WoWI (I guess there are others ...) |
| 00:57.16 | Guillotine | so I kind of pulled him off... |
| 00:57.53 | Kirkburn | necromancer's don't use demons, they use the undead |
| 00:58.28 | GenNMX|Thrae | Necromancers? What game are we talking about here? |
| 00:58.37 | Tain | Oh the hell if I know. |
| 00:58.55 | Kirkburn | I thought this was a D&D discussion board :'( |
| 00:59.18 | Cairenn | bah, is not, it's parcheesi |
| 00:59.26 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/ss/NodeGui.jpg |
| 00:59.29 | Iriel | Does that look sane? |
| 00:59.38 | Tain | I'm still surprised they let the succubusses (succubisii?) have that idle animation sound. |
| 00:59.40 | Kirkburn | But anyway NECROmancers use the undead, Hence the 'necro' :) |
| 00:59.43 | Tain | Well, the sound more than anything. |
| 00:59.52 | Cairenn | works for me Iriel |
| 00:59.54 | Kirkburn | People are still asking for the male equivalent |
| 01:00.00 | Kirkburn | Succubi, btw |
| 01:00.10 | Kirkburn | I forget what the male equiv. is |
| 01:00.17 | Cairenn | well, there *should* be Inccubi |
| 01:00.19 | GenNMX|Thrae | Incubus |
| 01:00.21 | Kirkburn | That's it |
| 01:00.37 | Iriel | BeerIBuy? |
| 01:00.49 | AnduinLothar | incubus ftw |
| 01:00.52 | Tain | And here I thought Incubus was just a band I didn't like. |
| 01:01.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | I know why Blizzard won't introduce Incubi -- most players are male, and they would find them very disturbing. |
| 01:01.14 | Tain | I find the female ones disturbing. |
| 01:01.16 | Kirkburn | They wouldn't LOOK the same, y'know |
| 01:01.23 | GenNMX|Thrae | A lot of males already find male night elves disturbing... |
| 01:01.35 | Kirkburn | jeebus, they're not gonna have men in drag in WoW |
| 01:01.52 | Kirkburn | Esp. S&M drag |
| 01:01.53 | GenNMX|Thrae | That's not what I meant, Kirkburn. |
| 01:01.53 | Tain | Of course I find them disturbing because the sound turns me on. |
| 01:02.01 | Cairenn | InkubusSukubus are a good group, Tain :p |
| 01:02.20 | Tain | You could make the argument that guys playing female characters in WoW are already in drag. ;) |
| 01:02.28 | Kirkburn | GenNMX|Thrae: Of course you didn't :) |
| 01:02.33 | GenNMX|Thrae | Just the idea of a model that looks like a demonic male prostitute would make many men uncomfortable, since a lot of men are homophobes. |
| 01:02.34 | Tain | I didn't say they weren't Cairenn, just that I don't like them. :) |
| 01:03.05 | Kirkburn | Er, my point was that they wouldn't look like that |
| 01:03.31 | Kirkburn | Well, hopefully |
| 01:03.34 | GenNMX|Thrae | Why wouldn't they? That's what an Incubus is, that's what a Succubus is. They suck the life forces out of their victims by using sex. |
| 01:03.42 | Cairenn | so, which group are you talking about, Tain ... you said "Incubus", I said "InkubusSukubus" |
| 01:03.43 | Tain | Just like a real woman. |
| 01:03.52 | Tain | Oops did I use my outside voice? |
| 01:04.04 | Kirkburn | Mine is over 1000 km away :( |
| 01:04.07 | GenNMX|Thrae | The current Succubus already looks a demonic female prostitute with a S&M fetish ;) |
| 01:04.18 | GenNMX|Thrae | Tain: No no, real women use *lawyers*. |
| 01:04.26 | Kirkburn | Well, maybe the Incubus could look like a ... pimp? |
| 01:04.27 | Tain | Ah, another form of demon. |
| 01:04.27 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: I can relate |
| 01:05.05 | Tain | I'm just confused, Cairenn. :) I don't know InkubusSukubus. |
| 01:05.05 | Kirkburn | Fortunately I got a flight back for Valentine's day. This was especially important given it is also her birthday! |
| 01:05.35 | Cairenn | That's what I figured Tain ... InkubusSukubus aren't widely known in NA |
| 01:05.41 | Cairenn | they're EU |
| 01:05.44 | GenNMX|Thrae | <@Cairenn> Kirkburn: I can relate <-- added to my proof that Cairenn "enjoys the other white meat" |
| 01:06.02 | Guillotine | tuna? |
| 01:06.08 | Kirkburn | Pork? |
| 01:06.21 | Cairenn | I can relate to my SO being 1000s of miles away |
| 01:06.24 | Tain | Remember, you can tune a piano, but you can't tuna fish. |
| 01:06.35 | Iriel | That one works better spoken |
| 01:06.38 | GenNMX|Thrae | See, she says "Signifigant Other". |
| 01:07.09 | Tain | So why does it have to be white meat? Are you prejudiced? |
| 01:07.25 | Guillotine | prejudiced against tuna? |
| 01:07.29 | Kirkburn | Probably not, just racist |
| 01:07.31 | Guillotine | isn't tuna called 'the other white meat'? |
| 01:07.51 | Tain | I've never heard of tuna called the other white meat. |
| 01:07.55 | Tain | Chicken of the sea, sure. |
| 01:07.58 | Kirkburn | I've never heard of tuna |
| 01:08.07 | GenNMX|Thrae | Tain: Cairenn's cartoon avatar was white. If she was any other colour, wouldn't she ask it changed? |
| 01:08.24 | Tain | Personally I prefer fresh dolphin. mmm mmm good |
| 01:08.32 | Cairenn | actually, she's kinda blue |
| 01:08.35 | Kirkburn | Cat ftw |
| 01:08.42 | GenNMX|Thrae | Cairenn: Your christmas avatar ;) |
| 01:08.46 | Cairenn | oh, that one |
| 01:09.04 | Tain | If she's blue you should play some happy music to cheer her up. |
| 01:09.18 | Kirkburn | Like Slipknot |
| 01:09.24 | Cairenn | gah, I really need to make one for Valentine's, that's sneaking up on us at this point, isn't it? |
| 01:09.40 | Cairenn | I keep starting then getting fed up with it and deleting |
| 01:09.40 | Tain | More like stalking. |
| 01:09.41 | Kirkburn | How would u do that? |
| 01:09.54 | Kirkburn | A valentine's avatar ... alone? |
| 01:09.57 | Iriel | Ok.. idling and stuff. |
| 01:10.43 | Cairenn | this was my old one back on EQI: http://cairenn.eqinterface.com/sigs/cair-valentine.gif |
| 01:11.26 | GenNMX|Thrae | Cairenn: Good, but not suggestive enough! |
| 01:11.39 | Kirkburn | You still play EQ1? |
| 01:12.05 | GenNMX|Thrae | Kirkburn: She doesn't play WoW *now* ;) |
| 01:12.05 | Cairenn | actually, I've been playing it again some lately |
| 01:12.09 | Cairenn | sooooo bored with WoW |
| 01:12.32 | Cairenn | so made a newb back on EQ, running around doing all the lowbie quests I haven't seen in years |
| 01:12.47 | GenNMX|Thrae | I wouldn't know what to do with EQ1...most of the players left are probably bound so close together it would be too hard to get very far |
| 01:13.58 | Kirkburn | I found it fun going back to the Elwynn Forest quests after about 6 months |
| 01:14.51 | Tain | I was bored with WoW for months but now I don't have ambition for addons anymore either. :( |
| 01:14.56 | Tain | But I'm hoping that's temporary. |
| 01:14.57 | Kirkburn | But I'm getting slightly bored of WoW as well - not enough time for raids, guild split up ... again |
| 01:15.39 | Kirkburn | I'm sure it'll only be temporary, after 2 patches everyone will think, yay! |
| 01:16.40 | Cairenn | GenNMX|Thrae: http://www.cairenn-mmorpg.com/ |
| 01:17.25 | Tain | Actually the 1.10 patch has enough in it to get me excited for a while, I think. |
| 01:17.25 | Kirkburn | Gawd, some people need a slap when installing addons |
| 01:17.32 | Kirkburn | Weather!! |
| 01:17.35 | Kirkburn | Finally!! |
| 01:17.36 | Kirkburn | Maybe!! |
| 01:18.21 | Kirkburn | It's been a while since we've had an update on the next patch tbh |
| 01:18.58 | Kirkburn | I realise it's only been 3 weeks, but we were doing so well before 1.9 |
| 01:20.02 | Tain | There's multiple updates a day in the 1.10 thread. |
| 01:20.04 | GenNMX|Thrae | Cairenn: The Halloween Doll is really "you" ;) |
| 01:20.06 | Kirkburn | "That is going to fix your problems, I don't know why most of these sites have changed their distribution method, but it has caused alot of problems with people that don't know how to install addons." Who, what changed their distribution methods? It's always been like that. Some people say the silliest things... |
| 01:22.16 | Kirkburn | Okay, Curse is down ... except for the mod pages |
| 01:22.37 | Kirkburn | Eg. http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2522 works, but http://www.curse-gaming.com doesn't |
| 01:22.57 | Kirkburn | Oh I take that back |
| 01:22.59 | Kirkburn | It's all down |
| 01:23.33 | GenNMX|Thrae | There's so much anime I've missed over the last 5 months since my "anime scan"...I really need to take a day and get up to speed with my fansub downloading. |
| 01:23.37 | Cairenn | it's up for me, Kirkburn |
| 01:23.41 | GenNMX|Thrae | s/my/my last/ |
| 01:26.16 | Kirkburn | What is this correction thing? I've never come across it before |
| 01:26.53 | Cairenn | ? |
| 01:27.02 | Cairenn | what, purl? he's the room's bot |
| 01:27.15 | Cairenn | ~botsnack |
| 01:27.15 | purl | Cairenn: thanks |
| 01:27.41 | GenNMX|Thrae | I've been using sed regexp in IRC to correct myself since long before I came to this channel, and I find it a little annoying, but eh. |
| 01:28.19 | Tain | ~lart Kirkburn |
| 01:29.12 | Tain | Anyone have graham crackers? I have the chocolate. |
| 01:30.21 | Kirkburn | ~lart Tain |
| 01:30.21 | Kirkburn | I'm confused :( |
| 01:30.21 | Kirkburn | At least I worked out the /me command. Genius, that I am! |
| 01:30.21 | Tain | It's ok. purl hates you, that's all. |
| 01:30.26 | Kirkburn | harr |
| 01:30.28 | Cairenn | purl was just being slow |
| 01:30.36 | Tain | in homage to Kirkburn |
| 01:31.00 | Tain | hmmm wait a new bootldr might not be bad |
| 01:32.00 | Kirkburn | Anyways, I must be off |
| 01:32.08 | Kirkburn | For some, it is 2:30 am |
| 01:32.15 | Cairenn | later Kirkburn |
| 01:32.21 | Kirkburn | I gotta walk home ... |
| 01:32.39 | Kirkburn | See yas |
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| 01:34.45 | Legorol | hola |
| 01:34.47 | Cairenn | hey Legorol :) |
| 01:35.04 | Legorol | I'm looking for good ideas on what are good tradeskill helper AddOns for me to try |
| 01:35.12 | Legorol | i've got fed up with Engineering :D |
| 01:35.17 | Tain | kc_et of course! |
| 01:35.25 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=40&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 01:35.52 | Legorol | Thanks Cairenn, been through that list just now, going to try TTCraftAddict |
| 01:35.59 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 01:35.59 | Legorol | i was wondering if anyone else have any suggestions |
| 01:36.38 | Cairenn | recipe book is nice if you've got a lot of alts, great way of seeing if any of them need "x" recipe you just picked up |
| 01:37.17 | Cairenn | before you sell it to a vendor then smack yourself on the forehead later when you discover one of your alts needed it |
| 01:41.36 | Legorol | hm, that might be worth trying |
| 01:41.44 | Legorol | as a matter of policy i never vendor recipes |
| 01:41.55 | Legorol | but knowing which of my alts can use it is nice |
| 01:42.28 | Cairenn | it isn't necessarily a "must have", but it's a nice convenience |
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| 01:45.16 | Legorol | Right, let's see how these three go |
| 01:45.29 | Legorol | for a UI mod freak, i'm pretty conservative when it comes to trying out new addons |
| 01:45.35 | Legorol | i very rarely add something to my existing stuff |
| 01:47.10 | zespri | Guys, there used to be MozzFullMap mod that allowed you to see areas on the map unsepored by your char. this mod hasn't been updated for more then half a year, is there a recent somthing similar? the old one still works, but it's nice to know if anyone done anything similat |
| 01:47.47 | AnduinLothar | still works |
| 01:47.59 | zespri | I know |
| 01:50.10 | Legorol | Someone here familiar with the KC AddOns? |
| 01:50.12 | Cairenn | more than 1/2 a year? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4046 |
| 01:50.23 | Legorol | i'm a bit confused, it looks like KC_ET has KC_Items as a dep, |
| 01:50.25 | Cairenn | Oct isn't 1/2 a year |
| 01:50.37 | Legorol | but there is no KC_Items included in the download, even though the readme says there should be one |
| 01:50.38 | zespri | the last I've seen were june |
| 01:50.40 | Legorol | am i missing something? |
| 01:50.55 | zespri | thank you Cairenn |
| 01:50.59 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 01:51.41 | Cairenn | hrm, not sure Lego |
| 01:51.47 | Cairenn | see if it works without |
| 01:52.10 | Legorol | it doesn't, it lists KC_Items as a required dep |
| 01:52.25 | Legorol | the readme for KC_ET says there should be a barebones KC_Items included with KC_ET, but there isn't |
| 01:52.38 | Tain | You do need KC Items. It was being updated, so it may be that the readme wasn't updated. |
| 01:53.20 | Cairenn | which means you also need Ace and AceGUI |
| 01:54.54 | Legorol | ok well i downloaded an older version of KC_ET, and it does have a minimalistic KC_Items included, which is smaller than the full version |
| 01:55.05 | Legorol | i think it was just accidentally left out of the latest KC_ET version |
| 01:55.36 | Legorol | the reason why i don't want to just download the full KC_Items is because i run enough memory hogging scanning addons already :D |
| 01:55.57 | AnduinLothar | KCET? on the Public Broadcasting Network? |
| 01:56.16 | Cairenn | Kael Cycle Extended Trades |
| 01:59.09 | Cairenn | KCI can be used to replace both Auctioneer and LootLink |
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| 02:37.17 | Corrodias | really.. |
| 02:37.59 | Corrodias | yeah that mozzfullworldmap is one of my favorite addons |
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| 02:54.51 | Iriel | Bah, queues |
| 03:04.03 | da5id | -.- sleep time for me... and corrodias: i must agree. |
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| 03:15.48 | AnduinLothar | mmmm been up 27 hours now |
| 03:15.59 | AnduinLothar | think i tmight be time for a nap |
| 03:16.07 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 03:16.30 | AnduinLothar | you get that aching feeling all over that's hard to ignore |
| 03:17.00 | AnduinLothar | might want to eat tho |
| 03:19.34 | AnduinLothar | at least once |
| 03:19.44 | AnduinLothar | wouldn't want my body to stop working on me |
| 03:20.15 | AnduinLothar | gotta give it SOME sustinance... as long as it know's who's in control here |
| 03:21.15 | AnduinLothar | i mean, hey... I can't dominate very many other peopl in this day in age... may as well rule myself. |
| 03:23.39 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:24.00 | Cairenn | Karl, eat and go sleep, you're babbling |
| 03:24.33 | AnduinLothar | like a brook? |
| 03:24.41 | Cairenn | something like, yeah |
| 03:24.43 | Iriel | like a crazy person |
| 03:24.50 | Cairenn | that's closer ;) |
| 03:25.00 | AnduinLothar | who said I wasn't a crazy person? |
| 03:25.22 | AnduinLothar | mmhmm |
| 03:25.38 | Tain | Sanity is just a one-trick pony anyway. |
| 03:25.43 | AnduinLothar | One day... One day I'll show you... |
| 03:26.10 | AnduinLothar | What a REAl Crazy person looks like! |
| 03:27.01 | Tain | They're coming to take me away ha ha |
| 03:27.49 | AnduinLothar | They're coming to take me away ho ho |
| 03:28.16 | Fanook | hee hee ha haa to the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time |
| 03:29.09 | Cairenn | what's scary is how many of you know that song :p |
| 03:29.36 | Tain | I always thought of it as my theme song. |
| 03:29.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I've honestly never heard it |
| 03:31.38 | AnduinLothar | aaaarrrr these stupid wow forums make me want to jab my eyes out with rusty cork screws and squeeze them into eye juice and drink it with a green olive. |
| 03:39.32 | Corrodias | i don't like the wow forums much, myself |
| 03:41.37 | Fanook | hmmmm, can you call AssistByName() to assist a (named?) mob? |
| 03:45.31 | Iriel | I dont see why not |
| 03:46.47 | Fanook | well, the wiki says player, loading up wow now for some testing |
| 03:48.58 | Tem|MC | Yes you can |
| 03:49.30 | Tem|MC | Back in the day before TargetTarget I used to make AssistByName("<boss>") macros |
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| 03:49.55 | Legorol | woot, i just found a new copper node in Dun Morogh |
| 03:49.59 | Legorol | i thought i had them all by now |
| 03:50.19 | Tem|MC | Once against azuragos I crit then hit that macro and saw him change to me... then he promptly one shot m |
| 03:50.21 | Tem|MC | e |
| 03:50.29 | Fanook | why would you /assist a bo...oh, to target the tank? |
| 03:50.48 | Tem|MC | no, to see it's target |
| 03:55.44 | Corrodias | these days, a lot of unitframe addons will let you have a "target of my target" frame displayed, too |
| 03:56.20 | Corrodias | obviously you know that, but i like to say it for anyone who doesn't yet |
| 03:56.54 | Corrodias | could you perhaps explain the usefulness of having it displayed? |
| 04:03.15 | Fanook | hmmm assistbyname must only work with named entities that you couldn't help using AssistUnit cause it sure as heck ain't working with my pet |
| 04:08.02 | stray`laptop | players only, probably |
| 04:08.08 | stray`laptop | since npcs dont have unique names(including pets) |
| 04:08.41 | Fanook | right, but then i see [22:49] <Tem|MC> Back in the day before TargetTarget I used to make AssistByName("<boss>") macros |
| 04:09.08 | stray`laptop | interesting |
| 04:09.25 | stray`laptop | do a quick test by having your pet aggro something |
| 04:09.35 | Fanook | that's what i am doing :) |
| 04:09.38 | stray`laptop | then try assist it by name without targetting it and with targetting it o.O |
| 04:09.57 | stray`laptop | what are you using assistbyname to do anyhow 8) |
| 04:11.02 | Fanook | wiki clarification |
| 04:11.14 | Fanook | and there's a question on the wow forums about assisting vael |
| 04:13.22 | stray`laptop | does /assist <name> call AssistByName()? |
| 04:14.30 | Fanook | if it does, it's doing special stuff that the straight function call doesn't cause that works |
| 04:15.06 | Fanook | my guess is that it calls AssistUnit("target") |
| 04:15.21 | Fanook | which also works |
| 04:15.28 | stray`laptop | maybe it magically does TargetByName("name")->AssistUnit("target") ;p |
| 04:15.37 | Fanook | *shrug* |
| 04:16.59 | ScytheBlade1 | You could always hook both of those funcs and watch |
| 04:17.44 | Fanook | that would require learning about hooking nicely :P |
| 04:17.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hooking isn't nice :) |
| 04:18.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I just kinda accepted that it was a kinda nasty hack and moved on |
| 04:18.51 | stray`laptop | its easy to just hook those two functions and watch though :P |
| 04:19.01 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 04:19.37 | Fanook | yeah i know :) |
| 04:22.35 | Iriel | Well, /assist calls AssistByName directly |
| 04:23.27 | Fanook | but it works with npc's and pets, which /script AssistByName() does not |
| 04:24.05 | Iriel | Actually.. |
| 04:24.10 | Iriel | I know of one difference |
| 04:24.38 | Iriel | The /assist command will drop anything after a space |
| 04:24.56 | Iriel | So if you do /assist Long Name, it's AssistByName("Long") |
| 04:25.58 | Fanook | and the game must do a closest match then, cause /assist Venomtail Scorpid worked |
| 04:26.24 | Iriel | Try /script AssistByName("Venomtail") |
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| 04:27.47 | kremonte | has guillotine been around? |
| 04:27.56 | Fanook | he was on earlier today |
| 04:27.57 | Cairenn | yes |
| 04:28.06 | kremonte | well like, in the past hour? |
| 04:28.09 | kremonte | whowas says 4pm |
| 04:28.41 | kremonte | meh, oh well |
| 04:30.55 | Fanook | hmmm, i just broke /assist :P |
| 04:31.00 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:31.20 | Fanook | guess i hooked it wrong then |
| 04:31.25 | kremonte | hmm |
| 04:31.37 | Fanook | it IS calling AssistByName, though |
| 04:32.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, that's one way to tell ;) |
| 04:32.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Just break it, and tada, you know what it's calling@ |
| 04:32.14 | ScytheBlade1 | s/@/!/ |
| 04:33.15 | Fanook | hrmm, forgot to change the name in the .toc, now which of them did it grab the files from.... |
| 04:35.43 | Fanook | ok, assistUnit works as you'd expect |
| 04:36.46 | Fanook | . /assist doesn't work with pets or npc's, as far as i can tell |
| 04:37.03 | Fanook | which confuses me, as it seemed to work before :) |
| 04:38.49 | MentalPower | are you sure they were actually targetting something? (not trying to insult your intelligence) |
| 04:39.30 | Fanook | yes, they attack my pet, i call the function and it errors "Unknown unit" |
| 04:39.59 | Iriel | You're calling AssistByName and not AssistUnit? |
| 04:40.06 | Fanook | i've tried both |
| 04:40.29 | Fanook | AssistByName does not work. AssistUnit (with the proper unitid) does |
| 04:41.06 | Fanook | and /assist calls AssistByName on the targetted unit and does work with npc's and pets. |
| 04:41.38 | Fanook | although, that last statement may be incorrect, as infinitely looped in my hooking |
| 04:41.51 | Fanook | *i infinitely |
| 04:42.58 | kremonte | hahahaha |
| 04:43.02 | kremonte | i found a way to do linebreaks in chat |
| 04:43.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 04:43.14 | kremonte | it's fixed with linking fix though, i would think |
| 04:43.53 | kremonte | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[2].hex .. "\124Hitem:11122:0:0:0\124h[line one\124nCarrot on a Stick\124nline three]\124h\124r") |
| 04:44.45 | Fanook | when kremonte and tem play, baby slouken cries. :P |
| 04:44.53 | kremonte | well there's a difference |
| 04:44.57 | kremonte | i exploit the game, tem b reaks it |
| 04:45.52 | Iriel | Does |n do a line break?? |
| 04:46.04 | kremonte | yup. it acts like \n i suppose |
| 04:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | That's annoying |
| 04:46.08 | kremonte | im not sure if it works outside of a link |
| 04:46.15 | Iriel | Does it have to be within a link then? |
| 04:46.15 | kremonte | ill go try it. |
| 04:46.16 | ScytheBlade1 | WoW won't auto-rejoin your channels unless you're in a city |
| 04:46.40 | Iriel | I bet that's why "\\n" gets us disconnected, it's a typoed test for "|n" |
| 04:47.03 | kremonte | doesnt work in aregular message |
| 04:47.06 | kremonte | invalid esc code |
| 04:48.16 | kremonte | well :] |
| 04:50.21 | kremonte | now i have to find the inevitable way to change colours |
| 04:50.29 | Tem|Rag | ASDLFKASHFLASHFLKHF! |
| 04:50.43 | kremonte | ASDLFKASHFLASHFLKHF |
| 04:50.46 | kremonte | agreed. |
| 04:50.56 | Tem|Rag | I HATE LAVA |
| 04:51.08 | Tem|Rag | I just drank a 50g potion for the rag fight... |
| 04:51.17 | kremonte | 50g pot? wtf |
| 04:51.19 | ScytheBlade1 | 50g potion!? |
| 04:51.23 | Tem|Rag | before I get !@#@ing spell off he hits me into the lava |
| 04:51.23 | kremonte | flask? lol |
| 04:51.28 | Tem|Rag | FoSP |
| 04:51.35 | kremonte | flasks stay when you die |
| 04:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | What kind of pot runs you 50g? |
| 04:51.57 | kremonte | ScytheBlade1: flasks |
| 04:52.08 | Tem|Rag | yeah |
| 04:52.18 | ScytheBlade1 | What flask runs you 50g? |
| 04:52.20 | Tem|Rag | but it defeats the purpose |
| 04:52.25 | Tem|Rag | It didn't cost me anything |
| 04:52.26 | kremonte | ScytheBlade1: lots |
| 04:52.29 | Tem|Rag | I made the potion |
| 04:52.42 | Tem|Rag | (except the mats were expensive |
| 04:52.43 | Tem|Rag | ) |
| 04:53.06 | kremonte | HA |
| 04:53.14 | kremonte | blank links are so annoying |
| 04:53.17 | kremonte | with \124n x10 |
| 04:54.02 | Tem|Rag | 8% |
| 04:54.06 | Tem|Rag | 6% |
| 04:54.09 | Tem|Rag | 5% |
| 04:54.12 | Tem|Rag | 4% |
| 04:54.15 | Tem|Rag | 3% |
| 04:54.18 | Tem|Rag | 2% |
| 04:54.24 | Tem|Rag | 1% |
| 04:54.33 | Tem|Rag | OMG FIRST RAG KILL |
| 04:54.36 | kremonte | congrats! |
| 04:55.40 | Fanook | hey Iriel, what's the __NOTOC__ at the bottom of the API template do? |
| 04:56.38 | Tem|Rag | Lol legendary drop |
| 04:56.45 | kremonte | ? |
| 04:56.49 | Tem|Rag | yay for windseeker quests |
| 04:56.51 | Iriel | Fanook : it makes it not put a table of contents on the page |
| 05:04.18 | Tem|Rag | Chocker of the FireLord |
| 05:04.24 | Tem|Rag | Choker of the Firelord |
| 05:04.55 | Fanook | *facepalm* when you hook a function, you need to save and call the old function, not the normal one... |
| 05:07.30 | kremonte | omg |
| 05:07.37 | kremonte | i can change link text color too |
| 05:07.50 | Fanook | that's a nasty exploit |
| 05:13.02 | Fanook | just dont post a link for a Legendary Wang, k? |
| 05:13.21 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:13.23 | ScytheBlade1 | No promises |
| 05:13.25 | kremonte | fanook, i could already spoof links to make [Wang] off of sulfuras |
| 05:13.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually, I should supply the Penny Arcade forums with a small addon that does that |
| 05:13.50 | ScytheBlade1 | And just see what happens |
| 05:13.55 | Fanook | lmao |
| 05:14.14 | Tem|Rag | ok so I just spent 100 dkp |
| 05:14.22 | kremonte | i made [RAINBOW] in rainbow colors |
| 05:18.30 | Codayus | Fanook: Oddly, when I worked out how to change link color, my immediate thought was...hey! Now I can make a link to an epic [Wang]! I was going to make it to an OEB though. |
| 05:18.46 | Codayus | Then, about 3 seconds later, I got distracted by something shiny and forgot all about it... :-) |
| 05:18.49 | kremonte | Codayus: link color as in quality? or multicoloured in one link? |
| 05:19.22 | Codayus | Er...how to make the link be an arbitrary color. I didn't try and make it multicolored. |
| 05:19.35 | kremonte | just quality colors , tho? |
| 05:19.43 | Codayus | No, any arbitrary color. |
| 05:19.44 | kremonte | im interested if theres another way to do it |
| 05:19.59 | kremonte | mind PMing me? |
| 05:20.20 | Fanook | what am i missing here? It doesn't seem to be calling my functions, but i didn't break the original functions either. http://wow.pastebin.com/518629 |
| 05:20.24 | Codayus | Sure...if I can recall where I put my notes on it... |
| 05:20.30 | Tem|Rag | mmm Choker of the Firelord |
| 05:20.38 | Tem|Rag | points well spent |
| 05:23.50 | Fanook | nm, found some large errors, gonna see if i fixed it |
| 05:25.16 | Codayus | kremonte: PMed you. |
| 05:25.28 | kremonte | have you been getting my replies? |
| 05:25.34 | kremonte | or am i not ident'd |
| 05:25.40 | kremonte | ohh lol |
| 05:25.44 | Codayus | 6Hmmm... |
| 05:25.46 | Codayus | B[Blol |
| 05:26.01 | Codayus | oops, totally wrong key. |
| 05:29.55 | Fanook | why won't you hook?!? |
| 05:29.57 | Fanook | any comments? http://wow.pastebin.com/518643 |
| 05:30.00 | kremonte | http://dan-rouse.com/wowimg/rainbowletters.jpg |
| 05:30.05 | kremonte | 8) |
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| 05:51.58 | SP|Sorren | ;O |
| 05:52.01 | SP|Sorren | how you do that ;o |
| 05:53.37 | SP|Sorren | id, are you sure your mod is loading? |
| 05:54.12 | SP|Sorren | er fanook |
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| 06:02.10 | Fanook | fairly certain |
| 06:02.19 | Fanook | that's actually a good point |
| 06:06.09 | Fanook | yes. it's loading |
| 06:06.28 | Fanook | and now it's working... |
| 06:07.19 | Fanook | and /assist calls AssistUnit("target"), not AssistByName |
| 06:07.31 | Fanook | which makes sense |
| 06:07.54 | Iriel | No it doesn't |
| 06:08.01 | Iriel | Unless you do "/assist" with no args |
| 06:08.06 | Iriel | Or pass it a unit ID |
| 06:08.20 | Fanook | which is what i just tested, going to test with args now |
| 06:08.45 | Iriel | So a more correct statement would have been: |
| 06:09.03 | Iriel | well, something along the lines of 'with no args' |
| 06:09.21 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 06:09.53 | Fanook | and /assist <name> calls AssistByName up to the first space, which confirms what you said earlier |
| 06:10.59 | Iriel | I just looked at the code for /assist |
| 06:14.49 | Fanook | where is that code, my grep skillz are failing me |
| 06:14.56 | Iriel | ChatFrame.lua |
| 06:15.11 | Iriel | Search for ASSIST |
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| 07:17.13 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 07:46.26 | Tem|Rag | night Cairenn|sleep |
| 07:46.36 | Tem | say me 40 minutes late |
| 07:46.38 | Tem | lol |
| 07:46.46 | Tem | well we killed rag like 2 hours ago... |
| 07:46.52 | Tem | first time ever |
| 07:47.08 | Tem | I got my hands on a Choker of the Fire Lord |
| 07:47.20 | Tem | so my neckslot is done... |
| 07:47.22 | Tem | :) |
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| 07:55.28 | zespri | anybody knows for the top of their head how to access hunter pet buttons from within an addon? |
| 07:57.20 | Iriel | UsePetAction ? |
| 07:57.27 | Iriel | and CastSpellByName |
| 07:58.52 | zespri | do these buttons have button id that can be passed to Tooltip:SetAction()? |
| 07:59.19 | Iriel | :SetPetAction(petSlot) |
| 08:03.00 | zespri | right. I'm having some kind of wierdnes in my addon. I call button:setText in ActionButton_UpdateUsable event and for some bizzare reazon some text that I set ends up on the pet bar |
| 08:03.26 | Iriel | Are they being shared? |
| 08:03.33 | Iriel | With some overrides? |
| 08:03.41 | Iriel | or is 'button' in fact not the name of the right variable? |
| 08:04.23 | zespri | button is getglobal(this:GetName().."Count") |
| 08:05.10 | zespri | it's what is displayed in lower right coner of an action button |
| 08:12.14 | Iriel | Then i'm goig to guess your code needs to figure out what kind of button it's being called for |
| 08:13.57 | zespri | you are absolutely right. this was the problem |
| 08:14.30 | zespri | I called ActionButton_GetPagedID() for petactionbutton, which doesn't make sense, so it returned trash |
| 08:14.43 | zespri | thank you, figured it out now |
| 08:16.51 | zespri | what are BonusActionButton, ShapeshiftButton, PetActionButton? as far as I understand ShapeshiftButton and PetActionButton are displayed at the same position just for different classes because there is no class that have them both, right? |
| 08:17.29 | Iriel | the shapeshift buttons appear directly above the normal action bars, but look different than pet buttons |
| 08:18.11 | zespri | right. shapeshift are a little bigger then pet ones |
| 08:18.18 | zespri | what is the BonusBar then? |
| 08:19.23 | Iriel | I think that's the one that appears when a warrior/rogue/etc is shifted |
| 08:19.25 | Iriel | but i'm not sure |
| 08:19.52 | Iriel | I lose track of the variations |
| 08:20.02 | zespri | ok thank you, I have to find it out from the blizz code then. |
| 08:20.10 | zespri | oh |
| 08:20.15 | zespri | you are absolutely right |
| 08:20.27 | zespri | it appears on the top of normal action bar |
| 08:20.39 | zespri | cool. that's all I wanted to know, thanks a lot |
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| 08:21.57 | Corrodias | the bonus bar takes the place of the action bar |
| 08:22.10 | Corrodias | in fact, you have two. |
| 08:22.30 | Corrodias | so i should say "your active bonus bar takes the place of your first action bar" |
| 08:23.33 | zespri | yeah, I already remembered that. I forget things very fast |
| 08:27.30 | Elkano | man... the guys at curse became even slower at checking new mods :/ |
| 08:30.03 | Corrodias | checking? |
| 08:30.20 | Corrodias | you know, i wonder if the bonus bars have anything to do with why abinfo doesn't work right |
| 08:30.30 | Corrodias | it assumes bar "7" and "8" are the shapeshift and pet bars |
| 08:35.07 | GenNMX|Thrae | ABInfo modified for Visor works OK for me. |
| 08:35.59 | Corrodias | i get "out of range" crap on the pet bar, shared countdowns with my regular action bar.. |
| 08:36.30 | GenNMX|Thrae | When you shapeshift (or stealth/change stance), buttons are hotswapped from (NUM_ACTIONBAR_PAGES + GetBonusBarOffset() + 1) to the BonusActionBar, then the ActionBar is hidden and the former shown. |
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| 08:37.50 | GenNMX|Thrae | Corrodias: Yeah, that might just be for the Blizz implementation |
| 08:38.06 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 08:38.13 | Corrodias | i will have to explore the code a little |
| 08:39.05 | Corrodias | not like that'll ever happen. i'm not familiar enough with the way the action bars work to -fix- it |
| 08:39.28 | Corrodias | i just tossed in a couple of things to disable checking for range on the shapeshift bar and disable everything on the pet bar (for abinfo) |
| 08:41.11 | GenNMX|Thrae | My Warlock's Imp's Firebolt range check seems OK, though. |
| 08:41.48 | Corrodias | grrr |
| 08:41.52 | Corrodias | maybe there's an update. i hope. |
| 08:43.49 | Corrodias | i'm using 1800b... |
| 08:47.38 | Corrodias | what the heck is Visor? |
| 08:47.47 | Corrodias | i'm not finding it on curse or wowi |
| 08:48.37 | Cairenn|sleep | http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=568&highlight=visor |
| 08:51.49 | Corrodias | 'ni |
| 09:09.19 | krka|work | Corrodias, what is your problem? |
| 09:09.34 | krka|work | hmm... i meant that in the nice way btw |
| 09:09.58 | krka|work | actionbars and ranges is something I've dealt with a lot :) |
| 09:15.06 | Corrodias | okay, in ABInfo: |
| 09:15.38 | Corrodias | it is supposed to change buttons to red if they're out of range, and during cooldown it puts numbers on them to count down (not unlike cooldowncount + redrange, plus spellcount or something) |
| 09:16.18 | Corrodias | however, on the shapeshiftbar, nothing should be "out of range", yet it still turns them red sometimes. i use aspected, so it may contain druid shapes, hunter aspects, rogue stealth, or whatever else |
| 09:16.36 | krka|work | hm |
| 09:16.53 | Corrodias | and on the pet action bar, the cooldown counts and red color never has anything to do with what the action on the pet bar is. rather, it seems to mirror what's going on on the main bar |
| 09:17.00 | Corrodias | the first action bar |
| 09:17.10 | krka|work | sounds like ABinfo is broken :P |
| 09:17.42 | Corrodias | but on curse, i don't see any comments complaining about it, and i've never heard anybody else mention it... |
| 09:18.39 | krka|work | conflict with some other addon? |
| 09:18.53 | Corrodias | it could be. i'll redownload it and reinstall it and see if it works any better |
| 09:20.53 | krka|work | just try to disable all other addons |
| 09:24.03 | Tem | yay! |
| 09:24.05 | Corrodias | sigh. auctioneer's data indicates this is worth 60g. there are three for auction, one 20g, one 60g, one 63g. i buy it at 20g. the next day, there are 5 up for auction, none of them for more than 30g. |
| 09:24.08 | Corrodias | i hate people sometimes |
| 09:24.12 | Tem | I <3 greasemonkey |
| 09:25.21 | Tem | I didn't like how wowi opened screenshots in a new window |
| 09:25.32 | Tem | so I made a script to stop that |
| 09:28.29 | Corrodias | fixing a typo in ABInfo fixes the pet bar cooldown, but the red range stuff still sucks |
| 09:28.39 | Corrodias | i might just disable that part and use redrange |
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| 09:37.41 | Corrodias | that works well |
| 09:44.28 | Corrodias | according to SCT's custom event file.. it is supposed to show the values of you healing somebody else |
| 10:07.04 | Corrodias | ah, commented out. |
| 10:12.04 | Corrodias | i see. SCT is only responsible for showing numbers above your own head. |
| 10:12.32 | Corrodias | it was one of the first addons i got, so it has been ages since i played without it. i keep forgetting that. |
| 11:03.19 | krka|work | sleep at noon? weird |
| 11:23.52 | Elkano | who says that it's noon for them? |
| 11:25.55 | krka|work | my time is the right time |
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| 12:43.14 | krka|work | quiet here |
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| 14:03.33 | krka|work | http://www.whiteninjacomics.com/comics/weirdest.shtml |
| 14:07.28 | Vallerius | zomg, people actually read white ninja? |
| 14:07.55 | Vallerius | those guys go to my school, i thought it was a local thing |
| 14:09.47 | krka|work | really? cool! |
| 14:09.54 | krka|work | yeah, it made its way to sweden atleast :P |
| 14:11.20 | GenNMX|Thrae | Sweden has exotic women, why waste time reading comics? |
| 14:12.50 | krka|work | exoticness is a relative thing |
| 14:14.01 | Tain | I miss Master Ninja. |
| 14:14.39 | Tain | But actually year, a lot of people do read white ninja. |
| 14:14.49 | Tain | I don't personally, but I see it linked a lot. |
| 14:17.05 | GenNMX|Thrae | Vallerius: Are the makers of White Ninja the "cool kids", or nerds who hang out in their own little sect? |
| 14:20.51 | Vallerius | GenNMX|Thrae: not a clue. all i know is they got their start publishing it in the school paper |
| 14:21.06 | Tain | haha AQ event crashed the Medivh servers 7+ times. |
| 14:21.16 | kremonte | lol how did it crash? |
| 14:21.18 | Vallerius | ouch. sounds like they got owned. |
| 14:21.42 | Tain | Just from the load of people it sounds like. |
| 14:21.55 | Tain | Pretty cool pictures though. |
| 14:21.58 | Tain | http://www.partingvisions.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=70 |
| 14:24.13 | Fanook | hehe, from the realm forum: |
| 14:24.17 | Fanook | "Now how about the long term benefits? Now we've got a few big, very nasty monsters roaming around in most of the 40-50 levelling grounds, and a crystal in Gadgetzan that mind-controls people. And admission into a pair of new instances. Ones that may have new gear, but are essentially designed to be the difficulty level of two existing instances. |
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| 15:07.51 | Shouryuu | rawr |
| 15:11.09 | Fanook | nyao |
| 15:11.14 | Anduin|Coma | moo |
| 15:12.37 | Shouryuu | nyao? |
| 15:14.22 | Fanook | japanese cat |
| 15:14.30 | Shouryuu | =P |
| 15:15.10 | Vallerius | on that note, would a chinese cat say "mao"? |
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| 15:16.07 | Anduin|Coma | chairman mao? |
| 15:16.46 | Fanook | *shrug* |
| 15:18.05 | Anduin|Coma | lol, guy just ran past me named Bonesaw |
| 15:36.13 | Corrodias | "big, very nasty monsters roaming around in most of the 40-50 levelling grounds and a crystal in Gadgetzan that mind-controls people" sound like rather unpleasant things to me |
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| 15:37.58 | Wobster | Sounds like fun... |
| 15:38.01 | Wobster | from a distance =P |
| 15:39.23 | Fanook | yeah.. |
| 15:39.52 | Fanook | though the server crashes are probably more annoying |
| 15:40.02 | Elkano | well, maybe we should start to work against the war effort on as many servers as possible ;) |
| 15:40.09 | Fanook | heh |
| 15:40.15 | Corrodias | fuck yeah |
| 15:40.20 | Corrodias | i'm just getting to 47, myself |
| 15:41.07 | Corrodias | what's the page with how far each realm has gotten? |
| 15:41.09 | Elkano | well, my 'main' is 45 :/ started about a year ago :/ |
| 15:41.27 | Corrodias | wow.com is so badly layed out that i can't find jack |
| 15:41.31 | Elkano | with the war effort? look at blizzards official page |
| 15:44.10 | Elkano | us war effort -> http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wareffort/servers.html |
| 15:44.34 | Corrodias | thanks |
| 15:44.50 | Fanook | hasn't updated for medivh's gate opening tho :) |
| 15:45.35 | Fanook | yay! my server's 45'th! maybe they'll fix stuff before we have to break it |
| 15:45.46 | Corrodias | and mine's 66th |
| 15:45.59 | Corrodias | but they're probably within 2% of each other :) |
| 15:46.02 | Corrodias | oops, gotta go! |
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| 16:03.28 | [MoonWolf] | string.split(" ","somestring") |
| 16:03.36 | [MoonWolf] | not that that would actually split |
| 16:03.46 | [MoonWolf] | string.split(" ","somestring that needs to be split") |
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| 16:43.33 | Shouryuu | rawr |
| 16:43.38 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
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| 16:48.32 | Wobster | Apparantly people in comas can detect huggling |
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| 16:56.27 | Shouryuu | it woiked! |
| 16:58.32 | Shouryuu | you typed it wrong... |
| 16:58.54 | Anduin|Coma | ya, no e |
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| 17:26.47 | Shouryuu | lol I'm buying my food over the internet |
| 17:26.54 | Shouryuu | lazyness at it's best |
| 17:28.59 | Anduin|Coma | pizza? |
| 17:30.12 | Elkano | wasn't there a MMORPG that allowed you to order from PizzaHut ingame? |
| 17:31.14 | ScytheBlade1 | EQ |
| 17:31.37 | Shouryuu | no Im shopping |
| 17:31.45 | Shouryuu | gonna get it delivered tomorow |
| 17:32.55 | Wobster | ./pand |
| 17:32.56 | Wobster | er |
| 17:32.59 | Wobster | ./panda =) |
| 17:36.21 | subsonic- | seriously |
| 17:36.37 | Anduin|Coma | dude, the summoner got a ridable tank.. |
| 17:36.54 | subsonic- | If I were to make an MMO, I'd get in contact with pizzahut and other places and actually build a shop ingame where you could order pizza |
| 17:37.15 | subsonic- | EQ has /pizza which would minimize the game and go to pizza huts site |
| 17:37.22 | subsonic- | but make it where the stores are in game |
| 17:40.34 | Tain | I used a restaurant delivery service a couple of times. They had a bunch of restaurant menus online, they'd go pick it up from there and deliver to you. |
| 17:47.35 | Anduin|Coma | meh, my ui durring that last Ony raid was a nightmare |
| 17:49.10 | Shouryuu | What happened? |
| 17:49.47 | Anduin|Coma | nothing much. just too much clutter on my normal screen for 40 man raiding |
| 17:49.57 | Anduin|Coma | they made me use ctra which i dont usually |
| 17:50.16 | Shouryuu | you're in a smallish guild right? |
| 17:50.31 | Anduin|Coma | my guild is crap. the ony run was PUG |
| 17:52.25 | Anduin|Coma | the guild wants me to use ctra too, but i think i'm just gonna rip out the comm for main tank and rdy check and use that |
| 17:53.20 | Anduin|Coma | :) I have a pic of my lvl 29 Manual Crowd Pummeler on my 60 pally doing 205.5 dps at 0.92 speed |
| 17:53.45 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:53.59 | Shouryuu | that's a lot |
| 17:54.18 | Anduin|Coma | it's attacking faster than a 2h rogue |
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| 18:03.38 | Corrodias | CTRA is pretty hard to configure when you're not in a raid. |
| 18:04.13 | Corrodias | and, of course, not nearly as useful if nobody is synced on a channel |
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| 18:16.15 | Wobster | What does the CTRA synching channel do anyway? |
| 18:16.38 | [MoonWolf] | synch combat logs |
| 18:16.46 | Corrodias | i assume, since i have never used it, it sends information about party health and such |
| 18:16.54 | Corrodias | you can't get it otherwise for people outside your group |
| 18:17.34 | Corrodias | well, either you can't any other way or it would be less efficient, i should think. |
| 18:19.00 | Anduin|Coma | dont think it selfs much of that |
| 18:19.12 | Anduin|Coma | sends* |
| 18:19.45 | Corrodias | sorry, i'm only guessing. what else would it send? buffs? we don't care how much damage somebody is doing to the mobs, i think |
| 18:20.04 | Anduin|Coma | used to send that stuff, but now you can just get it from the ui |
| 18:20.07 | Wobster | Maybe for debuffs? |
| 18:20.21 | Anduin|Coma | nah, its just the extra data now |
| 18:20.53 | Wobster | Anyone know of a good leveling build for a druid? I take it Feral is now a viable option? =) |
| 18:21.12 | Corrodias | the feral tree is very nice, yes |
| 18:21.51 | Shouryuu | ok my computer does not like when I browse the internet, and download at the same time |
| 18:22.00 | Corrodias | -if- you choose to focus on feral, you can be a good tank and a good damage dealer (in different forms). even with only 20 points in feral, you can do, what, 3/4 the damage of a similarly funded rogue |
| 18:22.09 | Shouryuu | yup feral is the way |
| 18:22.22 | Shouryuu | there was a post about the best leveling build on the druids forum I saw |
| 18:22.22 | Shouryuu | maybe it's stickied, you'll have to look around :P |
| 18:22.29 | Wobster | ooh. Ta, I shall =) |
| 18:23.30 | Corrodias | it's great for soloing. on the other hand, most people will like a druid to heal when in a group, due to the fact that you can never have too many healers (joking, but only druids and priests can do it), so it's worthwhile to put points into restoration, too |
| 18:24.05 | Wobster | nodnod |
| 18:24.08 | Shouryuu | I'm leveling my druid just for PvP |
| 18:24.19 | Shouryuu | If you need a healing bitch I have my priest, so I really don't care |
| 18:24.24 | Corrodias | despite playing 46 levels of druid, i haven't even looked at the druid forum yet. i should go have a look see. |
| 18:24.26 | Wobster | Considering levelling my druid atm with a hunter pal... |
| 18:24.32 | Wobster | Yeah, same with me =) |
| 18:24.44 | Wobster | If we really need a healer, I'll log my dorf priestess on =) |
| 18:24.47 | Corrodias | i absolutely LOVE the role of healing, so i'm speccing my druid mostly for healing |
| 18:24.49 | Shouryuu | and being a heal bitch in PvP really sucks |
| 18:24.57 | Shouryuu | yeah if the guild needs me then priest it is :P |
| 18:25.04 | Corrodias | good to hear it |
| 18:25.10 | Wobster | I've decided I'll try being a ganktarget with my priest and try PvPing |
| 18:25.15 | Shouryuu | It's great, I love healing to, you just don't get the gratitude you deserve |
| 18:25.27 | Shouryuu | yup that also |
| 18:25.32 | Shouryuu | having 800 armor suck |
| 18:25.45 | Corrodias | did you play guild wars? there was some real disrespect sometimes |
| 18:26.08 | Wobster | yuck GW. |
| 18:26.15 | Wobster | I tried playing that for a few days |
| 18:26.19 | Wobster | I just never got into it... |
| 18:26.28 | Wobster | It felt so ... empty.. |
| 18:26.29 | Shouryuu | I never tried |
| 18:26.34 | Corrodias | in fact, some monks started charging fees to go with parties because we were in low supply and sometimes got very little respect |
| 18:26.51 | Corrodias | especially if somebody decided to aggro everybody at once and then blame it on the healer for not being good enough |
| 18:27.09 | Wobster | Oh that happens enough on WoW =) |
| 18:27.26 | Wobster | With me chugging down mana pots to try and keep up =P |
| 18:27.36 | Corrodias | the warrior/monk class combination got a reputation for being played by stupid people |
| 18:27.50 | Wobster | Isn't that the pally equivalent? =) |
| 18:27.59 | Corrodias | tanks who tried to do it all and it was always everybody else's fault if you wiped |
| 18:28.07 | Corrodias | basically, i believe so. |
| 18:28.13 | Wobster | lol pally |
| 18:28.22 | Corrodias | it was also the most popular |
| 18:29.37 | Anduin|Coma | because you can choose what kind of role you want to have on a daily basis, rather than being stuck in one |
| 18:29.51 | Corrodias | i was complimented once on my healing prowess, probably in combination with another monk in the group. that was so uplifting. |
| 18:30.27 | Anduin|Coma | i get compimented a lot, usually because no one believes me when i say i can main heal for the grp |
| 18:30.52 | Wobster | It's hard to find an effective pally, Anduin, that's why it's often so surprising when one turns up =P |
| 18:31.09 | Corrodias | in guild wars? |
| 18:31.15 | Wobster | in WoW |
| 18:31.15 | Corrodias | or as a paladin? |
| 18:31.19 | Anduin|Coma | no no, as a pally |
| 18:31.41 | Anduin|Coma | guild wars doesn't even have items does it? or am i thinking of another game |
| 18:31.50 | Wobster | As a priest, I personally love pallies that can secondary heal when required but still pretty much tank it |
| 18:31.58 | Shouryuu | meh |
| 18:31.59 | Wobster | It has items...? |
| 18:32.05 | Shouryuu | I don't like it when other classes heal |
| 18:32.06 | Wobster | It also has a 8 slot action bar =P |
| 18:32.21 | Wobster | I'd prefer it to me running out of mana and someone dying =P |
| 18:32.24 | Shouryuu | they usualy try to show how much a good healer they are, and end up overhealing like crazy |
| 18:32.31 | Corrodias | guild wars has items. however, they don't make much of a difference. |
| 18:32.40 | Wobster | Since I'm shadowspec atm, mana is.. less than a holy one |
| 18:32.51 | Shouryuu | I'm holy/disc |
| 18:32.57 | Anduin|Coma | i never use my main heal when with a priest in 5man, only multiple flashes |
| 18:33.05 | Wobster | Oh, by secondary, I only mean picking up the slack if I'm oom |
| 18:33.34 | Wobster | Give me time to regen some to start again |
| 18:33.36 | Shouryuu | yeah I don't mind people helping out, but most shamans/druids end up trying to hea; for me |
| 18:33.41 | Anduin|Coma | right, I'll pick it up when they're oom, but usually with a priest in the grp i have my pvp gear on |
| 18:33.51 | Shouryuu | yeah :P |
| 18:34.04 | Wobster | That's why I said earlier, it's hard to find a good pally =) and better when you do =) |
| 18:34.10 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 18:34.34 | Shouryuu | I've rareky ran into someone who really filled his secondary healer role |
| 18:34.37 | Shouryuu | *rarely |
| 18:34.51 | Wobster | I've been lucky I guess =) |
| 18:34.53 | Anduin|Coma | do you run DM West much? |
| 18:34.54 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 18:35.06 | Shouryuu | I don't play anymore |
| 18:35.12 | Anduin|Coma | you always have pallies and priests together in dm west |
| 18:35.13 | Wobster | Me? Not yet =P only just hit 47 |
| 18:35.27 | Anduin|Coma | and there's a pally in almost every 60 man grp |
| 18:35.28 | Shouryuu | I;m horde as well =P So pallies are a rare bread |
| 18:35.48 | Shouryuu | I really like pallies |
| 18:36.11 | Shouryuu | If leveling a char didn't take so long, I'd reroll one |
| 18:36.11 | ForgottenLords | is there a BringToFront() function? |
| 18:36.18 | ForgottenLords | or something if the sort? |
| 18:36.27 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 18:36.33 | Anduin|Coma | no |
| 18:36.34 | Wobster | You could possibly set the layer? |
| 18:36.42 | Wobster | to a higher one? |
| 18:36.47 | Corrodias | i fear i don't know what this person is talking about. "stupidest things done TO a druid" apparently include: I also can't count the number of times I've gone one on one with Horde Druids only to have them root me. Let's see, there's also Warriors Hamstring-ing me while I'm in Bear form, Mages Poly'ing me, Priests casting Vampiric Embrace on me, oh, and a couple times I actually had a Pally use Consecrate during a duel. |
| 18:36.52 | Anduin|Coma | hide(), Show() |
| 18:37.00 | Corrodias | i know why polymorph won't be useful, but other than that... |
| 18:37.09 | ForgottenLords | Hide/Show automatically brings it to the front? |
| 18:37.31 | Wobster | Doesn't shapeshifting remove the root? |
| 18:37.40 | Anduin|Coma | yes |
| 18:37.50 | ForgottenLords | Ok, thanks for the suggestion |
| 18:37.53 | Corrodias | yes, but it takes a lot of mana to shift back |
| 18:37.53 | Wobster | or rather shapeshifting removing all movement impairs |
| 18:37.55 | Anduin|Coma | and consecrate is useless in dual anyway |
| 18:37.59 | Anduin|Coma | waste of mana |
| 18:37.59 | Wobster | swiftshift? |
| 18:38.06 | Corrodias | i don't know what consecrate is :( |
| 18:38.19 | ForgottenLords | pally AoE |
| 18:38.19 | Anduin|Coma | circle of gold aoe dot |
| 18:38.23 | Beladona | sooo, was he complaining? or just laughing about it? |
| 18:38.34 | Wobster | I think he was laughing about it |
| 18:38.37 | Corrodias | ah, there is the talent that reduces shifting mana cost, isn't there... i didn't get that one, but then, i'm no pvper. |
| 18:38.41 | Corrodias | yeah, laughing |
| 18:38.45 | Beladona | good |
| 18:38.50 | Corrodias | what about vampiric embrace? |
| 18:38.51 | Wobster | Although... Vampiric Embrace? |
| 18:38.58 | Wobster | That's not going to be dispelled... |
| 18:39.06 | Anduin|Coma | druid has a cleanse, no? |
| 18:39.07 | Wobster | and sure, it doesn't cause damage, but it heals =P |
| 18:39.24 | Beladona | druids are fun to fight |
| 18:39.36 | Wobster | You never know what you're going to get =P |
| 18:39.38 | Anduin|Coma | ya, i liek dueling druids |
| 18:39.43 | Beladona | I got pretty good at it |
| 18:39.53 | Beladona | but yeah, it varies widely |
| 18:40.09 | Anduin|Coma | dueling wars/hunters/rogue are borring, always the same thing |
| 18:40.14 | Corrodias | a druid who isn't specifically designed for pvp in some way is not going to be a tough fight, i think |
| 18:40.21 | Beladona | not if they are good |
| 18:40.29 | Corrodias | okay, well, i just suck in that case |
| 18:40.45 | Anduin|Coma | hunters are lame to pvp... always pet on u and run away |
| 18:41.01 | Beladona | I have met a couple hunters that could go one on one |
| 18:41.04 | Corrodias | i don't know how to fight people. i don't even know what each class is capable of, yet. |
| 18:41.06 | Beladona | no pet |
| 18:41.07 | Wobster | Sob deadzone =( |
| 18:41.17 | Anduin|Coma | no pet might be interesting |
| 18:41.28 | Wobster | I hates it my precious =P |
| 18:41.37 | Anduin|Coma | but if i have a bear on me it's lame |
| 18:41.40 | Beladona | rogues though, most do tend to do the same thing |
| 18:41.45 | Wobster | survival specced might be able to pull it off |
| 18:41.58 | Corrodias | i can't even tank very well, because i'm not very familiar with how to do it |
| 18:41.59 | Beladona | my warrior ate rogues for breakfast |
| 18:42.10 | Corrodias | although it probably helps if there's somebody to heal! |
| 18:42.26 | Wobster | tanking generally means you try to keep the opponents attention while other people whale upon them |
| 18:42.44 | Beladona | a good tank can manage aggro, and take hits |
| 18:43.11 | Wobster | It's really up to the healers to keep you alive, and everyone else to dispose of the ones you're keeping the attention on |
| 18:43.17 | Beladona | managing aggro is pretty tough in wow compared to other games I have played |
| 18:43.23 | Beladona | as a warrior |
| 18:43.34 | Wobster | As a druid, it's even harder with groups =P |
| 18:43.34 | Beladona | you just have to know what skills really pisses off a mob |
| 18:43.36 | Corrodias | it is. and it also looks incredibily exciting. |
| 18:43.52 | Beladona | sunder, ftw |
| 18:44.18 | Corrodias | i know i love healing, and i think i'd like tanking, too, if i had a nice little warrior |
| 18:44.25 | Beladona | should try it |
| 18:44.28 | Beladona | I loved mine |
| 18:44.58 | Beladona | the only thing I hated was when you get end-game, they tend to want protection spec warriors for instances, and they are canon-fodder in pvp |
| 18:45.40 | Beladona | I had to stop doing pvp completely till I was done in the main instances, and could switch to a dmg spec |
| 18:45.42 | Anduin|Coma | know what's a challenge is being a warrior and keeping the attention of multiple mobs w/o anyone else doing crowd control |
| 18:45.54 | Beladona | aye |
| 18:46.01 | Beladona | especially when you ahve trigger happy mages |
| 18:46.09 | Anduin|Coma | to be able to do that means swappign targets after pissing one off |
| 18:46.24 | Anduin|Coma | and you can to know what your allies are attacking |
| 18:46.30 | Anduin|Coma | have to know* |
| 18:46.30 | Corrodias | have to remind myself the point isn't to stick to one mob and damage him. |
| 18:46.34 | Beladona | it takes a lot of skill |
| 18:46.37 | Beladona | but its fun |
| 18:46.52 | Anduin|Coma | even harder for a pally tanking |
| 18:47.03 | Anduin|Coma | but it's usually inverse |
| 18:47.29 | Anduin|Coma | pally can keep multiple targets on him, but if the mages pummel one he'll lose it |
| 18:47.31 | Beladona | you gotta be quick |
| 18:47.49 | Beladona | if you are one of those people that tend to watch tv and play at the same time, and get distracted, don't play a warrior |
| 18:48.03 | Anduin|Coma | ya lol, play a priest |
| 18:48.39 | Beladona | I remember when Pallies were upset that warriors had better crowd control |
| 18:48.52 | Beladona | the dev were like "and?" |
| 18:49.15 | Beladona | so you want warriors to be non-magic pallies |
| 18:49.19 | Beladona | =P |
| 18:49.48 | Corrodias | are dragons actually "dragonkin"? |
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| 18:50.02 | Beladona | depends I think |
| 18:51.00 | Wobster | in a hunter sense? yes |
| 18:51.15 | Corrodias | i mean in a "will Hibernate work on a dragon" sense |
| 18:51.21 | Corrodias | is that their creature type? |
| 18:51.30 | Wobster | I believe so. unless they're like boss mobs =) |
| 18:51.43 | Corrodias | what might they be then? ... "boss"? |
| 18:52.48 | Wobster | I'm fairly sure 'detect dragonkin' as a hunter detects dragons |
| 18:53.23 | Wobster | Give it a go in the dragons in the Badlands =) |
| 18:53.25 | Corrodias | wait, i'm stupid. |
| 18:54.01 | Corrodias | i'll just check my screenshots. Blanchanese kited Phantim (a world dragon, i guess) to the crossroads four or five times a day or two ago |
| 18:55.07 | Corrodias | yep. i got a great shot of phantim up inside the tower (he apparently chased somebody up it), tooltip says he's a +?? Dragonkin, and i apparently just said 'otu of mana" |
| 18:55.17 | Corrodias | a great shot of a stupid typo |
| 18:55.35 | Wobster | Don't you hate those =) |
| 18:56.58 | Corrodias | i did get a chance to have some fun, even at level 46 |
| 18:57.47 | Corrodias | by dumping my mana as fast as possible, i (apparently alone) managed to keep a bear form druid alive tanking him for, what, 15-20 seconds >_> |
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| 18:57.57 | Corrodias | healing, that is |
| 18:58.08 | Wobster | woohoo! |
| 18:58.21 | Wobster | Meh, I want to be a Tauren druid |
| 18:58.25 | Wobster | I'm sick of the NE model |
| 18:58.40 | Corrodias | taurens are so cool, man. |
| 18:58.42 | Wobster | Maybe I'll just stay permanantly in shapeshift form =P |
| 18:58.51 | Wobster | I love the male tauren dance |
| 18:58.53 | Wobster | Best of the lot =) |
| 18:59.20 | Wobster | It's like the Dragostea Din Tea man =) |
| 18:59.37 | krka | everyone's a tauren :/ |
| 18:59.46 | Wobster | They're so cuddly =P |
| 18:59.47 | Corrodias | it sure seems that way, but really, we just take up that much space. |
| 19:00.05 | Wobster | I think if I wanted to PvP, I'd make a gnome |
| 19:00.15 | Wobster | Tauren are too easy to target |
| 19:00.30 | Corrodias | night elves and trolls are about the same size, as are forsaken and humans. then the allinace gets dinky ones and the horde gets huge ones. |
| 19:01.03 | Corrodias | i zoom out two ticks when playing my druid |
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| 19:04.42 | Corrodias | and war stomp is sometimes fun to use, although i bet that fade into shadows thing is pretty useful |
| 19:05.36 | Wobster | "And then I cast... FROST SHOOOOCCCCK" |
| 19:06.00 | Wobster | Shadowmeld I find only useful when sniping an aimed shot with my hunter =P |
| 19:06.33 | Wobster | Or when I was waiting for partymembers to make it back into instances that I was a low level in |
| 19:06.41 | Wobster | (Feign Death FTW) |
| 19:07.11 | Corrodias | ah |
| 19:08.12 | Wobster | Warstop would be so useful for hunters |
| 19:08.24 | Wobster | as a AoE scattershot equiv |
| 19:08.43 | kremonte | hey all :Q |
| 19:08.46 | Wobster | I need to incorporate it more into my shammy |
| 19:08.48 | Corrodias | yeah, stomp, hit cheetah, and book it! |
| 19:09.01 | kremonte | any slouken/people who speak sloukenian around? |
| 19:09.14 | Corrodias | tauren hunter, there's a good idea. although my hunter is a troll because i like raptors. |
| 19:09.25 | Wobster | Tauren on a Raptor can be done =) |
| 19:09.32 | Corrodias | awful hard |
| 19:09.36 | Wobster | True... |
| 19:09.47 | kremonte | bah no slouken types around ; ; |
| 19:09.53 | kremonte | i really need to report this, lol |
| 19:09.56 | Corrodias | or lucky. or have a GM friend. |
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| 19:18.20 | Corrodias | hmm. a lot of the stories of people saying foolish things about druids here come from the alliance side and 80% of them involve paladins as one of the antagonists. i wonder if that's a pattern. :) |
| 19:19.54 | Shouryuu|food | We need to stop the Slouken : i want this posts |
| 19:20.13 | kremonte | we need to have a slouken: don't fix the linking system its so fun, posts |
| 19:20.17 | kremonte | uploading SS of pwnage |
| 19:20.19 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 19:20.54 | Shouryuu | we shouldn't tahnk his involvement in the community by considering him as an errant boy that obeys our every command =P |
| 19:21.07 | Corrodias | it would be pretty tasty to have a full tank-specced druid... |
| 19:21.25 | Shouryuu | I've seen a pick of a druid with 15k armor in bear form |
| 19:21.30 | Shouryuu | badass is the word |
| 19:21.34 | kremonte | http://dan-rouse.com/wowimg/linkcolours.jpg |
| 19:21.58 | Shouryuu | hahaha |
| 19:22.12 | Corrodias | as i understand, for them, it's very important to have a high crit rate and crit with Swipe and, i suppose, Maul. |
| 19:22.12 | Shouryuu | man you are my knew idol :p |
| 19:22.18 | kremonte | lol |
| 19:22.19 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 19:22.27 | kremonte | ooh |
| 19:22.40 | kremonte | ill change Dragonslayer's Signet into Shoe-Dragon-slayer's Signet |
| 19:22.46 | Shouryuu | haha |
| 19:22.47 | Corrodias | apparently hitting a crit with swipe and maul will multiply the aggro by some big factor |
| 19:23.04 | Corrodias | shoe-dragon? |
| 19:23.10 | Shouryuu | shoe ryuu |
| 19:23.11 | kremonte | shouryuu |
| 19:23.14 | kremonte | lol |
| 19:23.15 | Corrodias | ah.. |
| 19:23.16 | Shouryuu | <=== shoe ryuu |
| 19:23.24 | kremonte | just like i am what, kraymontieuh? |
| 19:23.33 | Shouryuu | yuuup |
| 19:23.39 | Shouryuu | kraimonteuh |
| 19:23.58 | Shouryuu | crepe time |
| 19:24.03 | kremonte | oh btw, as an answer do one of our questions in french class today, i answered "je vais jeter mes dechets sur shouryuu" |
| 19:24.31 | kremonte | it was to honor you. |
| 19:26.19 | Corrodias | i really should learn how to tank better. sometimes it apparently comes in handy when the warrior sucks, but when am i in a group that has another good healer? :P |
| 19:26.33 | kremonte | druid tanks are cool |
| 19:27.05 | kremonte | a druid friend and myself trained one of the servants from blasted lands into stormwind today, the entire time we were fighting over aggro.. i can't believe he won D: |
| 19:30.19 | kremonte | ergh |
| 19:30.34 | kremonte | anyone have a character on WoW that i can test something with another faction? |
| 19:32.04 | kremonte | boo |
| 19:32.12 | kremonte | noone can make an ally char on draenor? |
| 19:32.22 | Corrodias | but.. but.. alliance is jerks |
| 19:32.30 | Shouryuu | lol thanks kremonte |
| 19:32.51 | kremonte | yeah but i have a troll rogue at stormwind there |
| 19:33.09 | kremonte | someone! prz help me find incredible exploitable bugs? |
| 19:33.32 | Shouryuu | i dont have the game installed =( |
| 19:33.45 | Corrodias | use teleport hax. |
| 19:33.55 | kremonte | Corrodias? :] |
| 19:34.08 | Corrodias | i don't like that look |
| 19:34.17 | kremonte | :) |
| 19:34.21 | Corrodias | as long as i don't have to do a lot of work, okay. what am i doing? |
| 19:34.27 | Wobster | You're going to try the send message in another language? |
| 19:34.34 | kremonte | Wobster: no |
| 19:34.42 | kremonte | make a human character on draenor |
| 19:34.54 | Wobster | Call it KremontesLackey |
| 19:34.58 | kremonte | ill see where in elwynn my rogue is..logging in |
| 19:35.08 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 19:35.11 | kremonte | yea im right next to northshire |
| 19:35.32 | Corrodias | human, you say? |
| 19:35.36 | kremonte | yes please |
| 19:35.40 | Wobster | And wander about saying "BRAIIIINS" |
| 19:36.09 | kremonte | run right outside of northshire please, and make a right. my character is 'Jeklik' |
| 19:36.21 | Corrodias | i shall recreate my only alliance character on ET! |
| 19:36.43 | kremonte | huh |
| 19:36.45 | kremonte | o_O |
| 19:37.02 | Corrodias | except without her name which is taken |
| 19:38.05 | kremonte | gah |
| 19:38.16 | kremonte | ill be like two minutes, the guards just spawned when i killed a deer ; ; |
| 19:38.32 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 19:38.48 | Corrodias | 'k. what i mean is that my character has the same appearance/class as my only alliance character on my home realm |
| 19:38.55 | kremonte | ah |
| 19:39.20 | kremonte | well i'm directly outside of northshire, if you make an immediate right you'll see my corpse =P |
| 19:40.01 | Corrodias | yeah, i'm there. |
| 19:40.14 | kremonte | i'm appx 1 minute away |
| 19:41.20 | kremonte | okay, simple test |
| 19:41.40 | kremonte | you there? |
| 19:41.53 | kremonte | did you see any color in that text? |
| 19:42.21 | Corrodias | no |
| 19:42.31 | kremonte | now? |
| 19:42.37 | Corrodias | still no |
| 19:42.53 | kremonte | last one, no? |
| 19:42.54 | Corrodias | nope |
| 19:42.56 | kremonte | boo |
| 19:43.02 | kremonte | guess it's only a chat bubble bug? |
| 19:43.12 | kremonte | wait, you didnt see color in the chat bubble eitther? |
| 19:43.25 | Corrodias | i don't have the chat bubbles enabled. want me to turn them on? |
| 19:43.27 | stray`laptop | omg l33t link sploiter, tell me how it works before it gets fixed :P |
| 19:43.34 | stray`laptop | plz? :) |
| 19:43.35 | kremonte | stray`laptop, no |
| 19:43.39 | stray`laptop | awwww ;( |
| 19:43.43 | kremonte | Corrodias: yes please |
| 19:43.54 | Tem|Sleep | kremonte: the chat bubbles /never/ show color |
| 19:44.01 | Natasem | lol n00bs "wow hacked my pc" http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-tech-support&t=689600 |
| 19:44.03 | Tem|Sleep | (link color that is) |
| 19:44.05 | kremonte | Tem|Sleep: wrong. =) |
| 19:44.09 | kremonte | Tem|Sleep: not with this |
| 19:44.11 | Corrodias | ready |
| 19:44.21 | Corrodias | no color |
| 19:44.23 | kremonte | boo |
| 19:44.28 | kremonte | yeah, guess it's just friendly then |
| 19:44.35 | kremonte | alright, thanks for helping >< |
| 19:44.49 | Corrodias | np |
| 19:45.54 | kremonte | Tem: http://dan-rouse.com/wowimg/chatbubblecolor.jpg |
| 19:46.12 | Tem | nice lol |
| 19:46.16 | kremonte | (expanded from http://dan-rouse.com/wowimg/linkcolours.jpg ) |
| 19:46.34 | kremonte | my guild ph3ars my artifact quality krol blade. i promise. :) |
| 19:46.52 | Corrodias | should have said [Wang] |
| 19:46.59 | Tem | is this still the localization thing? |
| 19:47.00 | kremonte | been there, done that =P |
| 19:47.05 | kremonte | Tem: sort of. |
| 19:47.09 | kremonte | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.14 | Corrodias | i know. but showing your legendary troll wang to a captivated human girl would be just the thing. |
| 19:47.17 | kremonte | but you can do it with plain english too |
| 19:47.23 | Tem | oh? |
| 19:47.23 | kremonte | Corrodias: rofl |
| 19:47.27 | Tem | that's cool |
| 19:47.29 | kremonte | Tem: i'll pm |
| 19:53.04 | Corrodias | i'm still poking around in the restoration tree |
| 19:53.07 | Corrodias | not sure just where to put my points |
| 19:56.45 | Corrodias | nature's swiftness is highly recommended, but i want all sorts of talents... |
| 19:57.44 | Corrodias | it makes me wonder how useful Reflection is. |
| 19:57.53 | Corrodias | 15% of your mana regen continues during combat |
| 19:58.15 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@204.128.192.8) |
| 19:59.31 | Corrodias | and with nature's swiftness: sure, i can get a healing touch off instantly. but if we're in such bad shape that i need to do THAT, i'm going to burn through my mana in the next 15 seconds and it's over, baby |
| 19:59.58 | Wobster | I guess it's more for PVP? |
| 20:00.06 | Wobster | You want a burst heal to yourself |
| 20:00.09 | Corrodias | probably. this guide is written from a pvp-enabling perspective. :o |
| 20:00.25 | Wobster | Or you could burst heal the priest/pally as your final action =) |
| 20:01.02 | Shouryuu | if the priest needs healing |
| 20:01.03 | Shouryuu | meh |
| 20:01.10 | Corrodias | hmm. that's odd. he didn't even put any points into Subtlety |
| 20:01.20 | Shouryuu | priest talents? |
| 20:01.30 | Corrodias | druid. that's 20% threat reduction from your heals for 5 points. i generate too damn much threat even WITH that. |
| 20:01.48 | Wobster | pvp |
| 20:01.52 | Wobster | Threat isn't an issue =) |
| 20:02.05 | Corrodias | we were stupid enough to use a .. ah, yes .. a hunter pet to try to tank uldaman, once. -that- was interesting. |
| 20:02.11 | Wobster | hehe |
| 20:02.13 | Wobster | I've done that =P |
| 20:02.18 | Wobster | Failed miserably =) |
| 20:02.25 | Shouryuu | my god http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=307583 |
| 20:02.29 | Shouryuu | look at the third post |
| 20:02.39 | Corrodias | it couldn't hold aggro for crap. even if i held off the healing until i -had- to, and then used only the HoT's, all the mobs would just turn and run at me |
| 20:02.52 | Shouryuu | I've had a mage tank the boss in UBRS |
| 20:03.03 | Corrodias | in which case i'd hit barkskin and pop into bear but it was still crap |
| 20:03.15 | Shouryuu | we fucked up the begining and had a mage running around trying to kite/tank the boss... That was interesting |
| 20:03.32 | Corrodias | lol |
| 20:03.35 | Wobster | Hehe, we've done that with our guild |
| 20:03.43 | Wobster | "Tank with your face Pol! Tank with your face!" |
| 20:03.53 | Corrodias | insect swarm. sounds not very useful to me. |
| 20:03.54 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 20:04.04 | Shouryuu | people like it |
| 20:04.08 | Shouryuu | dunno why |
| 20:04.12 | Shouryuu | but poeple like it |
| 20:04.21 | Wobster | It's a bit... pitiful |
| 20:04.25 | Shouryuu | dunno |
| 20:04.28 | Shouryuu | never tried |
| 20:04.30 | Corrodias | 2% less chance to hit and negligible DoT |
| 20:04.43 | Wobster | Does it have levels? |
| 20:04.49 | Wobster | Cause 45mana is really pittance |
| 20:04.55 | Wobster | so why not use it =) |
| 20:05.12 | Corrodias | because it takes a talent point. :) |
| 20:05.24 | Corrodias | yes, it has higher levels. unfortunately, they don't look much better. |
| 20:05.27 | Wobster | but then again, it's a prereq for gift of nature |
| 20:05.37 | Wobster | Which does sound useful |
| 20:05.50 | Wobster | 10% increase in healing effect |
| 20:05.54 | Wobster | (eventually) |
| 20:06.00 | Corrodias | yeah, that is a big deal |
| 20:07.44 | Corrodias | i feel a little weird, though, in caster form, sometimes. |
| 20:08.00 | Corrodias | i mean, i have 3500 mana and nobody else ever has more than 3k :( |
| 20:08.13 | Shouryuu | as a druid? |
| 20:08.30 | kremonte | how would you reset a value to the default? |
| 20:08.43 | kremonte | i.c ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS |
| 20:09.02 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 20:09.20 | Corrodias | that mage didn't break 3k. pussy. :3 |
| 20:09.27 | GenNMX|Thrae | Insect Swarm is decent for a Feral Druid. Pounce + Rake + Rip + Moonfire + Insect Swarm = massive DoT damage |
| 20:09.39 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Maldivia (n=the_real@62.61.134.59.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 20:09.54 | Tem | Hey Druids: You guys need to not spam Insect Swarm on MC mobs |
| 20:10.07 | kremonte | Tem: lol |
| 20:10.13 | Tem | I'm sick of Warlock Curses getting knocked off by stupid shit like Insect Swarm |
| 20:10.16 | GenNMX|Thrae | How can you spam Insect Swarm? It has no upfront damage |
| 20:10.22 | Corrodias | lol! |
| 20:10.25 | kremonte | GenNMX|Thrae: 6 druids, 6 insect swarms |
| 20:10.32 | Tem | Especially when those warlock curses increase my dps by 10% |
| 20:10.33 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ah, true |
| 20:10.34 | kremonte | 6 insect swarms = no curse of elements |
| 20:10.35 | Corrodias | that's hilarious |
| 20:10.51 | Maldivia | Tem: yeah, I agree... where is the promised debuff priority system :) |
| 20:10.55 | GenNMX|Thrae | Yes, now Druids have two tiny DoTs they can spam on enemies |
| 20:11.30 | kremonte | tiny dots that use debuffs slots |
| 20:11.36 | Anduin|Coma | it's ok, yo'll never knock off my judgement of light |
| 20:11.40 | Corrodias | oh, god |
| 20:11.49 | kremonte | increasing the dps of all 8 of your mages by 10% > insect swarm ^^ |
| 20:11.49 | Corrodias | this document is making me consider respeccing again. i spend 20g last time. |
| 20:12.28 | Maldivia | 20g... that's nothing :) |
| 20:12.41 | Corrodias | it is when i only have 24g left on hand. >_> |
| 20:12.43 | kremonte | i spent 50g 4 days ago for respect =D |
| 20:12.45 | Anduin|Coma | ya my alt lvl 2 has 50g on her |
| 20:12.46 | kremonte | and i have 13g now |
| 20:12.50 | Corrodias | ah, never mind, i'm good in this spec. |
| 20:12.58 | Wobster | I <3 Curse of Elements Plus the priest shadow debuff |
| 20:13.07 | kremonte | why those 2? |
| 20:13.08 | Wobster | Makes for more magic damage overall |
| 20:13.12 | Corrodias | if i can just decide on what this spec is |
| 20:13.13 | kremonte | neither benefit of each other |
| 20:13.26 | GenNMX|Thrae | Shadow Debuffs don't effect Mages, and we all know Warlocks are just there for Curse of Elements to help Mages |
| 20:13.26 | kremonte | CoE and CoS, let the priests heal =P |
| 20:13.33 | kremonte | right |
| 20:13.42 | kremonte | why do i outdps our mage with toep and zhc then, half the time? :Q |
| 20:13.47 | Wobster | The shadow debuff affects the shadow damage from a 'lock though |
| 20:13.50 | GenNMX|Thrae | CoE + SS + HS |
| 20:14.01 | kremonte | + more dps than mages! :] |
| 20:14.05 | GenNMX|Thrae | Because I'm over-generalizing, kremonte. |
| 20:14.12 | kremonte | you know if we didnt CoE for you youd be more useless than.. than... |
| 20:14.15 | kremonte | a shamadin |
| 20:14.30 | Wobster | I often spam rank 1 sw:p just for the stun effect, and the shadow debuff buildup is a nice sideeffect |
| 20:14.30 | pagefault | mages can rape a warlock in aoe though |
| 20:14.37 | kremonte | who cares about aoe? :] |
| 20:14.42 | Corrodias | how do you give a link to a talent build? |
| 20:14.42 | Tem | kremonte: There is something special about criting for 2k+ with a spell that is supposed to hit for 450 |
| 20:14.44 | kremonte | when we aoe i just go afk and am glad i have to do less work |
| 20:14.46 | Wobster | Shield my while I hellfire =) |
| 20:14.46 | pagefault | aoe is awesome in pvp |
| 20:14.53 | kremonte | nah |
| 20:15.01 | kremonte | Tem: not really :q |
| 20:15.23 | GenNMX|Thrae | Anyway, about Druids who spam Insect Swarm, that just means you have too many Restoration Druids or not utilizing your Druids correctly |
| 20:15.25 | Legorol | good evening folks |
| 20:15.49 | Legorol | I'd like to draw the attention of everyone to a little wiki page i have just created, and that I plan to add to: |
| 20:15.50 | Legorol | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tooltip_Pseudo_Code |
| 20:16.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | A well-utilized Druid should either be healing almost all the time and not have enough spare mana to worry about keeping Insect Swarms, or allowed to go Feral |
| 20:16.14 | Legorol | Tooltips are notoriously difficult to code, that page contains Lua-like pseudo-code for most tooltip methods |
| 20:16.20 | Corrodias | what do y'all think of this, for no pvp and mostly aimed to heal when in groups? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?00000000000000005052020303000000500503055300041 |
| 20:16.40 | Legorol | hopefully this will make it easier to code tooltips |
| 20:17.49 | Corrodias | tranquility doesn't generate much threat in the first place, so reducing it by 80% is mostly not worth anything |
| 20:17.57 | pagefault | I like druids who spam moonfire and run out of mana |
| 20:17.59 | pagefault | they are easy to kill |
| 20:18.06 | kremonte | i like druids who dont spam moonfire |
| 20:18.07 | stray`laptop | moonkin are the best |
| 20:18.12 | kremonte | those fights are fun |
| 20:18.16 | stray`laptop | free hk~! |
| 20:18.25 | kremonte | HK honor is worthless |
| 20:18.27 | kremonte | :@ |
| 20:18.32 | Wobster | oomkin =) |
| 20:18.44 | stray`laptop | not when you're a hunter and can farm everyone in av in the span of an ab game ;o |
| 20:19.26 | Corrodias | is anybody looking at my spec? >_> |
| 20:19.39 | kremonte | if i knew anything about druid, i would :c |
| 20:20.00 | stray`laptop | all i know about druids is that they're not easy to kill when correctly specc'd :( as to what that spec is, etc, i have no idea ;P |
| 20:20.02 | stray`laptop | so... |
| 20:20.26 | Corrodias | damn |
| 20:21.09 | GenNMX|Thrae | Corrodias: Gimmie a sec, I'll give you an opinion |
| 20:21.21 | Anduin|Coma | legorol, you should make a note that that is an estimate of what happens when you call those functions, so peopl eknow it's not for cut/paste |
| 20:21.42 | Corrodias | partly it hinges on how useful Reflection actually is. i just have it there because people seem to love +mana regen gear |
| 20:22.02 | Legorol | Anduin|Coma, will do |
| 20:22.28 | kremonte | in |c######## |
| 20:22.33 | kremonte | is the first two the alpha? |
| 20:23.24 | Anduin|Coma | and have it note that the self.values variables are innaccessable |
| 20:23.39 | Anduin|Coma | as in they dont really exist |
| 20:23.44 | stray`laptop | they dont seem to do anything krem, at least when i played with them |
| 20:24.05 | Anduin|Coma | or exist only at the C level |
| 20:25.05 | Legorol | doen |
| 20:25.06 | Legorol | *done |
| 20:25.15 | Anduin|Coma | looks good, good job |
| 20:25.30 | Legorol | i'm planning to extend it with explanations, best-practice guides and include pseudo-code for line wrapping behaviour |
| 20:25.34 | Wobster | hehe my druidcat is doing the elevatorbutt thing |
| 20:25.38 | Legorol | the latter also being a popular mind boggler |
| 20:25.45 | Wobster | That always amuses me |
| 20:25.47 | Anduin|Coma | line wrapping, ya |
| 20:25.50 | GenNMX|Thrae | Corrodias: If you're doing no PvP and want to be the best healer you can be, I suggest this: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?00000000000000005052020303000000500503055300041 |
| 20:26.07 | Legorol | I have the notes on line wrapping, just not in readable form :D |
| 20:26.51 | kremonte | hahaha |
| 20:26.52 | Corrodias | you didn't change anything..? |
| 20:26.58 | GenNMX|Thrae | Corrodias: Most Druids find Nature's Swiftness VERY useful for PvE healing, almost a must |
| 20:27.08 | kremonte | people keep relinking something i linked in guild in IF now |
| 20:27.16 | kremonte | and they're saying everyone is using a new hack |
| 20:27.17 | Corrodias | remember to click "save template" and copy the URL from there |
| 20:27.37 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ah, oops |
| 20:27.43 | GenNMX|Thrae | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?50005500122000000000000000000000505503035310001 |
| 20:27.51 | Anduin|Coma | I've never seen innervate used on anyone but a druid before |
| 20:28.15 | kremonte | i have |
| 20:28.18 | kremonte | :] |
| 20:28.27 | kremonte | last night a druid was innervating me, since we were duoing ^_^ |
| 20:28.32 | Anduin|Coma | like damn, use it on the priests in end game.. |
| 20:29.02 | Corrodias | took the four out of improved regrowth and took 2 out of subtlety for it, eh? |
| 20:29.32 | GenNMX|Thrae | Corrodias: A lot of Druids find Improved Regrowth loaded -- it can give you some bad aggro |
| 20:29.45 | Corrodias | :o oh. well. in that case, thanks a lot. |
| 20:29.55 | GenNMX|Thrae | And a NS+HT is 100x better |
| 20:30.19 | Corrodias | i take it Reflection is worthwhile |
| 20:30.24 | GenNMX|Thrae | The other key is OoC -- if you're low on mana, you can bash on some trash mobs and hope for procs |
| 20:30.31 | Anduin|Coma | Legorol, you should link that page from all those function pages |
| 20:31.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | OoC, Natural Weapons, and Natural Shapeshifter all help out your feral forms too. |
| 20:31.28 | Corrodias | understood |
| 20:31.48 | GenNMX|Thrae | Oops, take out 2 points in Nature's Reach and put them in Vengeance |
| 20:32.04 | GenNMX|Thrae | And I didn't include any in Natural Shapeshifter, so disregard my comment on it |
| 20:32.49 | GenNMX|Thrae | However, I do want to point out that this type of Druid sucks. If you've never played a Priest, play a Priest instead. |
| 20:33.04 | Corrodias | well, i think i'll still put the 20 into feral instead of balance, to make soloing a bit easier. but your points about the restoration tree are noted. |
| 20:33.14 | GenNMX|Thrae | This build is the "Druidic Priest" with less healing and DPS |
| 20:33.38 | Natasem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=307616 |
| 20:34.06 | GenNMX|Thrae | Yes, I was just suggesting an end-game spec. For any Druid spec, always go Feral first, then respec around Level 40 or 45. |
| 20:35.18 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Iriel (n=daniel@adsl-66-123-190-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 20:35.23 | kremonte | damn you purl |
| 20:35.51 | GenNMX|Thrae | Someone stop feeding purl trinary, he's |
| 20:35.54 | GenNMX|Thrae | "hi" |
| 20:36.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm - how long has it been since Plork was here? |
| 20:37.15 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Fanook (n=thenerdw@heinze726.dacor.net) |
| 20:38.21 | Corrodias | i'm about to post a derogatory generalization about people who use compilations like addon |
| 20:38.25 | Corrodias | *compilations like cosmos |
| 20:38.31 | Corrodias | flame on! *submit* |
| 20:38.32 | kremonte | ..why? |
| 20:38.42 | Anduin|Coma | because he's an ass |
| 20:38.44 | kremonte | "youre a fag for not being lvl 60 and knowing lua" |
| 20:38.57 | Corrodias | yes. it's in response to that thread about the guy thinking Cosmos had an account theft feature. |
| 20:39.23 | Anduin|Coma | Ya, that's how I test Arcane Parety Bars, doncha know |
| 20:39.54 | Anduin|Coma | why am i still in a coma.. |
| 20:42.45 | stray`laptop | pretty talented to tyep through your coma. |
| 20:42.53 | stray`laptop | i cant even type correctly outside of a coma! |
| 20:45.48 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Celandro (n=Celandro@64.172.210.78) |
| 20:49.28 | kremonte | ohh thats how to do purl onjoins |
| 20:49.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:50.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why I asked about Plork |
| 20:50.08 | kremonte | Plork? |
| 20:50.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I stuck a fun little quote from his past in purl's onjoin :P |
| 20:50.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Plokeryean or however you spell it |
| 20:50.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I've never been able to |
| 20:50.34 | Legorol | AnduinLothar, what are good pages for me to link to the tooltip pseudo code from? |
| 20:50.44 | Legorol | hm, the Wiki is so disorganised :_) |
| 20:51.24 | Legorol | hi Iriel, i need your help |
| 20:51.28 | Legorol | I just created this: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tooltip_Pseudo_Code |
| 20:51.33 | Legorol | and i don't know where to link it from |
| 20:51.44 | Legorol | I thought of the widget API page, but then that one is auto-generated |
| 20:51.55 | Iriel | probably http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTOs |
| 20:52.03 | Iriel | People link tutorials at the bottom |
| 20:52.06 | Legorol | ok |
| 20:52.13 | Legorol | although it's not really tutorial.. |
| 20:52.23 | Legorol | hm, i think the Wiki really needs one page per UI widget |
| 20:52.27 | Iriel | I agree |
| 20:52.31 | Legorol | with XMl explanation, attribute explanation, |
| 20:52.36 | Legorol | example uses, and info like this |
| 20:52.55 | AnduinLothar | link it from the linked pages of those function |
| 20:52.57 | AnduinLothar | s |
| 20:53.15 | Iriel | Lets' agree they'll be called... WIDGET GameTooltip, etc |
| 20:53.26 | Iriel | And i'll update the widget api with links. |
| 20:53.57 | AnduinLothar | bleh, I hate the word widget.. |
| 20:54.03 | Iriel | give me a better name then |
| 20:54.08 | Iriel | Frame doesn't work. |
| 20:54.08 | AnduinLothar | they're freaking frames |
| 20:54.11 | kremonte | how would i go about reporting another (maybe) bigger link exploit? i'm not quite sure the 1.10 fixes would take care of it |
| 20:54.15 | Iriel | no, Texture and FontString are not frames |
| 20:54.30 | AnduinLothar | sure they are, they just don't know it |
| 20:54.34 | Celandro | how about.. Blizzard Internals |
| 20:54.37 | Iriel | kremonte : I'd make it a new thread, with "Slouken: " the start, or if you're worried about posting it, email it to me and i'll get it to slouken |
| 20:54.46 | kremonte | yeah i'm not posting it |
| 20:54.51 | kremonte | your email address? |
| 20:54.58 | Iriel | iriel@vigilance-committee.org |
| 20:56.43 | Legorol | Ok there are about 3 howto pages on the wiki, each of them with different contents.. meh |
| 20:57.09 | AnduinLothar | meh? |
| 20:57.19 | AnduinLothar | there's an official one |
| 20:57.37 | GenNMX|Thrae | Iriel: I thought addressing developers or even CMs in the title was taboo? |
| 20:57.50 | Iriel | GenNMX|Thrae : For REAL issues, slouken is fine with his name in the topic |
| 20:57.55 | AnduinLothar | only if you dont know what you're doing |
| 20:57.58 | GenNMX|Thrae | Oh wait, didn't read the issue...heh |
| 20:58.00 | Iriel | GenNMX|Thrae : For 'imagined' or 'unverified' issues, it's a bad thing |
| 20:58.22 | Iriel | My policy is generally post without, have someone else verify, then post with.. Unless i'm absolutely sure about it 8-) |
| 20:58.27 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 20:58.34 | AnduinLothar | should be the default on leg |
| 20:58.50 | Maldivia | Iriel: was just looking at you 1.9.0 Changes / Concise list - UnitBuff is not fixed in current build (1.9.2) |
| 21:00.11 | Iriel | Maldivia : Hm, slouken said it would be.. Tack something to the effect onto the thread and i'll update it. |
| 21:00.58 | Maldivia | well, considering 1.9.2 came a day or two after 1.9.1, I think the 1.9.2 build is not the "real" 1.9.2 build he was talking about |
| 21:01.16 | Legorol | how do i make a page belong to a category? |
| 21:01.26 | Iriel | Put [[Category:Whatever]] at the bottom |
| 21:02.12 | Iriel | How about UIOBJECT instead of WIDGET for the links? |
| 21:02.16 | Iriel | Would that offend you less AnduinLothar ? |
| 21:03.07 | AnduinLothar | UIObject is more descriptive |
| 21:03.59 | AnduinLothar | widgets always remind me of self contained applications based on a framework app |
| 21:04.10 | Legorol | Ok, then here is my suggestion: |
| 21:04.19 | Legorol | The widget API page is a complete API reference |
| 21:04.35 | Legorol | Each widget will have its own page, which is a complete reference with regards to its XML and attributes, |
| 21:04.42 | Legorol | but will also contain examples and tips on use |
| 21:04.47 | Legorol | or should those be separate? |
| 21:04.58 | AnduinLothar | meh.. |
| 21:05.01 | Iriel | I think samples and tips as large as yours would be separate |
| 21:05.09 | Legorol | finally, the http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface should be a general tutorial/introduction page, with link to each widget |
| 21:05.09 | AnduinLothar | leave um all on one page as it is is fine with me |
| 21:05.14 | Iriel | Small comments and notes would be on one page |
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| 21:05.36 | Legorol | i was thinking that we need an XML-reference, to go together with the API reference |
| 21:05.40 | Legorol | and what's the best format for it |
| 21:06.02 | Legorol | in addition, people will start writing up explanations/examples of using XML objects |
| 21:06.06 | AnduinLothar | well yours isn't a howto unless you called it HOWTO: Understand the inner working of Tooltip functions |
| 21:06.11 | Legorol | and also default Blizz objects, such as scrollframes |
| 21:06.17 | Legorol | i agree AnduinLothar |
| 21:06.21 | Legorol | that's why mine has no good place :D |
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| 21:06.50 | AnduinLothar | Well I would split yours up inot psudo code and slap them on each of the individual function pages |
| 21:06.58 | Legorol | at the moment, i don't like http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface that much because it's part tutorial, part reference |
| 21:07.13 | Legorol | i don't agree with that, AnduinLothar |
| 21:07.20 | Legorol | the point of having it on page is to see their interaction |
| 21:07.29 | AnduinLothar | mmm, I spose |
| 21:07.33 | AnduinLothar | then link it |
| 21:07.45 | Legorol | from every single method, i guess |
| 21:07.48 | Iriel | WidgetAPI page updated with object links |
| 21:07.50 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 21:08.11 | krka | Legorol, I decided on GRAB btw: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4524 |
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| 21:08.20 | Legorol | GRAB being? |
| 21:08.21 | Iriel | Bah, linking from every method will be messy |
| 21:08.31 | krka | Game Reactive Action Buttons |
| 21:08.32 | Legorol | i will link from the Gametooltip object page |
| 21:08.33 | Iriel | I think linking from "UIOBJECT GameTooltip" will be sufficient |
| 21:08.37 | Legorol | yeah |
| 21:08.59 | Legorol | for a long time now i wanted to get rid of http://www.wowwiki.com/FrameXML_Elements |
| 21:09.14 | Legorol | i will move its contents into the individual uiobject pages |
| 21:09.39 | AnduinLothar | never seen that page b4 |
| 21:09.51 | Legorol | AnduinLothar, it's linked from http://www.wowwiki.com/Interface_Customization :-) |
| 21:09.54 | krka | the wiki is a godsend, wouldn't have gotten anywhere without it. thanks you guys! (since you all seem to have done a big part) |
| 21:09.56 | Legorol | in the Documentation section |
| 21:10.18 | Elkano | OK, short summary of the first release day: "Is it legal?", "Why should I use it instead of [LootLink|ItemSync|...]?", "Cool :)" |
| 21:10.19 | Legorol | krka, check this out: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tooltip_Pseudo_Code |
| 21:10.21 | AnduinLothar | never go to that page |
| 21:10.25 | Legorol | it's the result of my reverse-engineering work |
| 21:10.29 | Legorol | nor do i |
| 21:10.36 | Legorol | someone started it at some point as a half-assed attempt |
| 21:10.52 | krka | i am not sure we have the same definition of pseudo-code :P |
| 21:10.53 | Corrodias | ah, a list of macros for druid spells to base them on appropriate level! :o |
| 21:11.07 | krka | that looks like actual code to me |
| 21:11.33 | Legorol | well it's close |
| 21:11.42 | AnduinLothar | as for the World_of_Warcraft_API page i always ignore the entire top portion... indicating it's poorly organized |
| 21:12.01 | Legorol | krka, it's Lua code that represents all the behaviour of the tooltip methods |
| 21:12.04 | Legorol | with all their quirks/bugs |
| 21:12.11 | Legorol | well not really bugs, but unexpected stuff |
| 21:12.21 | AnduinLothar | I go strait down to Global Function Groups or use the find function to get where Im going |
| 21:12.29 | Legorol | same here, ctrl+f ftw |
| 21:12.30 | krka | useful page, indeed |
| 21:12.34 | krka | wish I had seen it earlier |
| 21:12.42 | Corrodias | except that it doesn't actually work |
| 21:12.47 | Corrodias | lame |
| 21:12.54 | AnduinLothar | and those stubs at the top that say it's too long make me want to hurt osmeone |
| 21:12.59 | Legorol | hehe |
| 21:13.32 | AnduinLothar | screw the discussion... just change it.. |
| 21:13.37 | krka | hmm... if I do an invalid tooltip:SetX, how would I know it? |
| 21:13.45 | Corrodias | i see. they had to make it very short so you have to fill in the number... why is there a limit of 255 character for a macro? |
| 21:13.47 | Legorol | glad you asked, krka |
| 21:13.56 | Legorol | that's one of the results of that page that i realised how to do it :-) |
| 21:14.03 | krka | cool! |
| 21:14.04 | Legorol | you do a SetOwner first, then a SetX |
| 21:14.15 | krka | for most cases there are other functions to use though |
| 21:14.15 | Legorol | if TextLeft1 is nil, then it was invalid |
| 21:14.23 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.24 | krka | GetBuffTexture and stuff |
| 21:14.27 | AnduinLothar | the sectiion |
| 21:14.44 | Legorol | Here is a philosophical question: I can foresee the following types of pages, where should each go: |
| 21:14.54 | AnduinLothar | it's a giant chunk of text... i cant even read it without my brain protesting |
| 21:15.08 | Legorol | 1) XML reference for UI widgets 2) HOWTO tips for UI widgets 3) HOWTO tips for Blizz defined UI objects |
| 21:15.09 | krka | mostly scanners are interested in invalid tooltips, and setowner seems kinda unnecessary then |
| 21:15.37 | Legorol | what do you mean by invalid in that case? |
| 21:15.49 | Legorol | by invalid, i meant for example you try to set a bag slot that is empty |
| 21:16.07 | krka | yeah |
| 21:16.12 | krka | or a buff slot that's empty |
| 21:16.21 | krka | would a :ClearLines before be enough? |
| 21:16.25 | Shouryuu | I am such a sucker |
| 21:16.33 | Shouryuu | I saw the cheasiest Japanese anime, and loved it |
| 21:16.45 | Fanook | which one? |
| 21:16.46 | Shouryuu | but it had been a movie, I would just thronw it out the window |
| 21:16.50 | AnduinLothar | isn't there a way to make it use [] rather than {} without messign up the links? |
| 21:16.51 | Shouryuu | Whisper of the Heart |
| 21:17.05 | Shouryuu | Anduin made it out of his coma! Whipee |
| 21:17.10 | Legorol | krka, yeah ClearLines is enough too, probably |
| 21:17.27 | krka | btw, do you have some section on itemlinks? |
| 21:17.31 | Shouryuu | I really loved it, but I'm sure if it had been a movie I wouldn't have |
| 21:17.45 | Legorol | yah there should be something somewhere on item links |
| 21:17.49 | Legorol | but there isn't |
| 21:17.51 | AnduinLothar | we need to grab the one on guru and slap it on the wiki |
| 21:19.07 | krka | seems very nice for inventory addons |
| 21:19.20 | AnduinLothar | guil made a good one |
| 21:19.27 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11536 |
| 21:21.29 | Iriel | Tem - have you been looking at the 1.10 change thread this morning? |
| 21:21.38 | Tem | no |
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| 21:22.35 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.32 | Legorol | Iriel, what do you suggest to call a set of pages that contain howtos/examples on using objects from Blizz's UI code? |
| 21:24.38 | Legorol | should they just be HOWTOs? |
| 21:24.47 | krka | or examples |
| 21:24.49 | Iriel | To me those are indeed HOWTOs |
| 21:25.03 | Iriel | Unless they're purely an example, devoid of a specific purpose |
| 21:25.19 | AnduinLothar | ya well if it's as indepth requiring multiple function descriptiosn it should be a hotto |
| 21:25.31 | AnduinLothar | howto |
| 21:25.43 | Legorol | ok |
| 21:25.50 | Legorol | how do i delete a page? |
| 21:25.53 | AnduinLothar | I would make yours Understanding Tooltip Functions |
| 21:26.16 | AnduinLothar | or HOWTO: Understand Tooltip Functions |
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| 21:26.27 | Tem | Iriel: I posted a reply |
| 21:26.36 | Iriel | Legorol : You can't delete pages, you can blank it out, or move it |
| 21:26.38 | AnduinLothar | or Develop Tooltip Mastry |
| 21:26.42 | zeeg | AnduinLothar, except you cant really do that as it'd be violation of his rights, ask him if you want to post it somewhere else |
| 21:26.58 | AnduinLothar | ya ya. You'd have to ask guil |
| 21:26.59 | Iriel | Tem: Nice. |
| 21:28.09 | AnduinLothar | you're taking my flippant sentances at face value, shame on you |
| 21:28.38 | AnduinLothar | I know what I mean.... You know what I mean.... why do I have to be explicit |
| 21:28.53 | Shouryuu | flippant... |
| 21:29.22 | AnduinLothar | ya, "Lets steal wowguru's content" |
| 21:30.02 | Legorol | Ok, there are 3 pages that list howto articles, each list is different from the others: |
| 21:30.02 | Legorol | http://www.wowwiki.com/Interface_Customization |
| 21:30.02 | Legorol | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTOs |
| 21:30.03 | Legorol | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 21:30.09 | Legorol | someone shoot me |
| 21:30.57 | Tain | ~lart Legorol |
| 21:30.59 | AnduinLothar | on that last one are they alphabetized automaticly? |
| 21:31.35 | Fanook | i think so, yes. it's part of the category page layout |
| 21:31.44 | AnduinLothar | where'd the lsit ocme from? |
| 21:31.53 | Fanook | autogenerated |
| 21:32.04 | AnduinLothar | why aren't the othes in there? |
| 21:32.05 | Fanook | as far as i know |
| 21:32.06 | Shouryuu | I think pulr is dead... |
| 21:32.23 | Fanook | it lists the pages with the HOWTO category notation at the bottom |
| 21:32.51 | AnduinLothar | well then, go fix the ones on the previous page |
| 21:32.55 | AnduinLothar | and nuke it |
| 21:33.03 | Gryphen | add [[Category: HOWTOs]] |
| 21:33.21 | Iriel | The latter one picks up anything that has been properly categorized. Easy enough to fix. |
| 21:34.27 | AnduinLothar | like |
| 21:34.31 | AnduinLothar | _Hook_Chat_Messages |
| 21:34.32 | Fanook | do we need the HOWTO's page? or should we put them all on the Interface_Customization page? |
| 21:34.45 | AnduinLothar | ew, no |
| 21:35.02 | AnduinLothar | nuke um all and link Category:HOWTOs from Interface_Customization |
| 21:36.27 | Tain | It just occured to me that I've never looked at anything on wowwiki outside of the Interface Customization area. |
| 21:36.52 | AnduinLothar | FYI I'm fixing um |
| 21:37.04 | Iriel | The question is this.. is the category page easy enough to use? |
| 21:37.22 | Iriel | If it is, then i'd be for replacing the existing HOWTOs poage with a link to the category page (probably Category:Tutorials also) |
| 21:40.51 | AnduinLothar | that better? |
| 21:40.59 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTOs |
| 21:41.36 | AnduinLothar | Legorol, you just need to add [[Category: HOWTOs]] to the bottom of your page |
| 21:41.36 | Iriel | You can make them alphabetize differently |
| 21:41.51 | Shouryuu | I hate the guy who found out abound SpellStopCasting(). Now everyone thinks you can just add it anywhere and it'll cast two spells in a row.... |
| 21:41.52 | Iriel | Instead of all being 'H' |
| 21:41.59 | AnduinLothar | ya, i didn't knwo how. make it alpha correctly |
| 21:42.49 | Iriel | You do this... |
| 21:42.52 | Legorol | what happened to the links that were on http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTOs? |
| 21:43.00 | Legorol | not all of thsoe pages had the Category: Howto thingy |
| 21:43.05 | AnduinLothar | I updated them |
| 21:43.05 | Iriel | [[Category:HOWTOs|Save Variables Between Game Settings]] |
| 21:43.30 | AnduinLothar | all but yours leg |
| 21:43.44 | Legorol | i don't think my page is a Howto :( |
| 21:43.48 | Legorol | it prolly shouldn't be there |
| 21:43.50 | AnduinLothar | sure it is |
| 21:43.54 | AnduinLothar | just rename it |
| 21:44.22 | Fanook | Anduin: I'll take care of Making Macros, I'm renaming it to fit the standard |
| 21:44.27 | Iriel | HOWTO Use GameTooltips Properly |
| 21:44.27 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 21:44.39 | AnduinLothar | nah, it's not about use |
| 21:44.42 | Iriel | Oh, Tem, I found the problem with frameStrata |
| 21:44.50 | Tem | oh good |
| 21:44.55 | Tem | whatsit? |
| 21:45.07 | Iriel | :SetParent seems to propagate parent strata, as far as I can tell |
| 21:45.17 | Tem | oh |
| 21:45.18 | AnduinLothar | eatier "Develop Tooltips Mastery" or "Understand Tooltip Internal Functions" |
| 21:45.25 | Iriel | Since when I put :SetFrameStrata calls after it, the problem went away |
| 21:45.36 | Iriel | I do need to do a bit more experimentation |
| 21:45.40 | Tem | that sort makes sense |
| 21:45.41 | Iriel | It was late when I figured it out |
| 21:45.44 | Tem | I'm gonna test it |
| 21:45.51 | Iriel | It does children too, so if you have |
| 21:46.06 | Iriel | X parent of Y with one strata, and Z with another |
| 21:46.09 | Iriel | X:SetParent(X) |
| 21:46.14 | Iriel | Changes both X and Y's strata |
| 21:46.27 | Iriel | But X:SetFrameStrata("TOOLTIP") only changes X and leaves Y alone |
| 21:46.58 | Iriel | The rings are much happier now that they're overlapping (or not) other things properly |
| 21:47.37 | AnduinLothar | where is the HOWTOs page linked from? can we make it redirect to the catigory page? |
| 21:48.08 | Gryphen | what a mess |
| 21:49.48 | Fanook | Currently, Interface_Customization, and two Talks link to the HOWTOs page |
| 21:49.52 | Fanook | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=HOWTOs |
| 21:51.21 | AnduinLothar | meh. nuke um and replace with the catagory link |
| 21:51.49 | AnduinLothar | and make HOWTO into a redirect |
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| 22:01.03 | Shouryuu | My rags of heart can like, wish and adore, But after one such love, can love no more. |
| 22:01.03 | Shouryuu | rawr I am nerd |
| 22:01.28 | AnduinLothar | i should write more poetry |
| 22:01.33 | AnduinLothar | i used to write a lot |
| 22:01.42 | Shouryuu | I do write but in french |
| 22:01.47 | Shouryuu | and it's crap |
| 22:01.53 | Shouryuu | so I an Ub3r nerd |
| 22:02.09 | AnduinLothar | Mine was pretty good according to a few sources |
| 22:02.31 | AnduinLothar | but I'm too angry now to write anything I'll be proud of later |
| 22:02.37 | AnduinLothar | bitter |
| 22:02.55 | AnduinLothar | mmm maybe that's not true |
| 22:03.00 | AnduinLothar | meh |
| 22:03.00 | Shouryuu | well I really like what I write |
| 22:03.07 | Shouryuu | but I'm fully conscious it's just crap |
| 22:03.09 | AnduinLothar | yay, alphabetized |
| 22:03.17 | Natasem | ok boys here ya go http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-off-topic&ThreadID=1227289 |
| 22:03.20 | Tain | Bitter? I don't even know her. |
| 22:03.57 | AnduinLothar | ah i know why i'm reflexive today.... talked to my ex this morn |
| 22:04.11 | AnduinLothar | good way to ruin productivity |
| 22:04.34 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 22:10.40 | Natasem | lothar then click my link it should chear ya up a bit |
| 22:11.05 | Natasem | i talked to my ex-wife the other day also buut she was behind bars w00t |
| 22:11.10 | AnduinLothar | been 2.5 years and she still has some issues with me.. |
| 22:11.32 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Beladona (n=sluster@24.129.136.26) |
| 22:11.43 | AnduinLothar | and still knows me better than any of the others.. not that's i've changed |
| 22:11.58 | Shouryuu | ugh don't get me started |
| 22:12.12 | AnduinLothar | That the chicks music video to that techno song? |
| 22:12.36 | AnduinLothar | ya. Satisfaction |
| 22:12.42 | AnduinLothar | seen it |
| 22:12.42 | Shouryuu | did any of you see the Call On Me clip? |
| 22:13.00 | AnduinLothar | good stuff, I've had that song in my library for a long time |
| 22:13.18 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 22:13.26 | Shouryuu | that clip is so much fun |
| 22:14.12 | Iriel | Tem: You might be able to dry your eyes now |
| 22:14.19 | Iriel | though i'm not sure you can smile yet |
| 22:16.13 | Tem | lol that's exactly what I was going to do... |
| 22:16.20 | kremonte | why would tem be crying? :X |
| 22:16.34 | Tem | kremonte: read the 1.10 changes thread |
| 22:16.35 | Iriel | I was going to post "Are you calling Tem Silly?" |
| 22:16.42 | Iriel | But I figured i'd see what your response would be |
| 22:16.59 | Tem | I was just going to say something like "I wouldn't dream of it" |
| 22:17.06 | Iriel | It might not be THAT bad of a bloat anyway |
| 22:17.18 | Tem | meh, he's probably right |
| 22:17.43 | Tem | I need for him to sit down one day and explain IN DETAIL how Buttons work |
| 22:17.56 | Tem | then I could make a good request |
| 22:18.15 | Tem | but his response just blew another whole in what I thought I understood |
| 22:18.26 | Tem | s/whole/hole/ |
| 22:18.54 | AnduinLothar | what's hard about buttons? |
| 22:19.20 | Tem | how the NormalTexture, NormalText (and friends) work |
| 22:19.28 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm, curious |
| 22:19.29 | ScytheBlade1 | a |
| 22:19.31 | ScytheBlade1 | s/a/b/ |
| 22:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | s/b/c/ |
| 22:19.39 | ScytheBlade1 | doh, oh well |
| 22:20.01 | AnduinLothar | oh, he defaults |
| 22:20.13 | Tem | z a z b z c z d |
| 22:20.21 | Tem | s/z //g |
| 22:21.12 | Tem | s/ z /, /g |
| 22:21.22 | AnduinLothar | w/e I dont use the defaults much |
| 22:21.24 | Tem | a z b z c z d |
| 22:21.26 | Tem | s/ z /, /g |
| 22:22.00 | Tem | AnduinLothar: it's not so much the defaults |
| 22:22.01 | AnduinLothar | ~lart purl |
| 22:22.08 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:22.21 | AnduinLothar | MY NUTS! |
| 22:22.33 | Tem | hahahah |
| 22:22.35 | Tem | ~botsnack |
| 22:22.35 | purl | aw, gee, Tem |
| 22:22.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That was good |
| 22:23.18 | Tem | ~literalinfo lart purl |
| 22:23.27 | AnduinLothar | aww spoil the fun |
| 22:23.29 | Tem | ~factinfo lart purl |
| 22:23.29 | purl | there's no such factoid as lart purl, Tem |
| 22:23.37 | Tem | huh |
| 22:23.38 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 22:23.44 | Tem | guess it's a command |
| 22:23.44 | AnduinLothar | ~factinfo lart |
| 22:23.44 | purl | lart -- created by RoyK <~roy@110.80-203-29.nextgentel.com> at Tue Nov 30 10:02:22 2004 (419 days); it has been requested 14 times, last by Cair at Fri Dec 2 18:04:46 2005. |
| 22:24.07 | Fanook | curiouser and curiouser |
| 22:24.07 | AnduinLothar | ~literalinfo lart |
| 22:24.18 | Tem | anyway |
| 22:24.54 | Tem | AnduinLothar: Slouken basically just said that Buttons don't actually have Texture Objects for NormalTexture, HighlightTexture, ects |
| 22:25.03 | Tem | which goes against my understanding of them |
| 22:25.47 | AnduinLothar | Frames afaik |
| 22:25.58 | Shouryuu | what does afaik mean? |
| 22:26.17 | AnduinLothar | ~afaik |
| 22:26.18 | purl | from memory, afaik is some kind of acronym...but nobody knows what it means, as far as I know. |
| 22:26.30 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 22:26.44 | Tem | that's good |
| 22:26.50 | Tem | ~iirc |
| 22:26.51 | purl | it has been said that iirc is "if I recall correctly" |
| 22:26.52 | Shouryuu | ~duno |
| 22:27.00 | ScytheBlade1 | huh? |
| 22:27.11 | ScytheBlade1 | oh, I missed Tem's line there |
| 22:27.12 | Shouryuu | is it dunno or duno? |
| 22:27.17 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 22:27.18 | AnduinLothar | dunno |
| 22:27.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:27.32 | Shouryuu | ~dunno |
| 22:27.34 | purl | i heard dunno is #1/usr/bin/girl |
| 22:27.35 | Shouryuu | fine mock me |
| 22:27.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:27.41 | AnduinLothar | LOL |
| 22:27.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That |
| 22:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Is good! |
| 22:27.53 | Shouryuu | that mad no sens |
| 22:27.55 | Shouryuu | *made |
| 22:27.59 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a *nix joke |
| 22:28.06 | Shouryuu | nix? |
| 22:28.09 | AnduinLothar | rofl |
| 22:28.12 | ScytheBlade1 | linux, unix |
| 22:28.13 | ScytheBlade1 | etc |
| 22:28.22 | Shouryuu | ahhh |
| 22:28.44 | Iriel | Tem: I imagine they have BITS of the texture object, but not a whole thing in its normal existance. |
| 22:28.59 | Tem | Iriel: and that's where it loses me |
| 22:29.25 | Iriel | The question is, which bits. |
| 22:29.35 | AnduinLothar | oh and as for Button not having NormalTexture and HighlightTexture, he's lying |
| 22:29.36 | Tem | what kind of object are you working with when you name a NormalTexture? |
| 22:29.47 | AnduinLothar | ChatBar uses them |
| 22:29.51 | AnduinLothar | works fine |
| 22:29.53 | Tem | AnduinLothar: you clearly don't understand the converstation |
| 22:30.08 | Tem | read his post and you will see what I'm talking about |
| 22:30.12 | Iriel | I suspect you're working with the skeleton of a NormalTexture |
| 22:30.24 | Iriel | from which the button keeps the parts it cares about |
| 22:32.59 | AnduinLothar | ya, I think I missed something somewhere and I dont have the heart to read that entire thread |
| 22:35.34 | Iriel | It's only 6 pages |
| 22:35.48 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 22:36.20 | AnduinLothar | this is why you are forum king and I will go back to writing potry |
| 22:36.34 | Tain | I'm trying to figure out what it means. |
| 22:37.07 | Tain | So buttons do have different layers and/or frames that can have different textures applied to. |
| 22:37.19 | AnduinLothar | I read the last 2 pages tho. Yes, those frames dont actually exist unless you give uma name i would guess |
| 22:37.22 | Tain | But it doesn't treat them like other frames treat a texture? |
| 22:37.46 | Iriel | Have you tried naming them.. |
| 22:37.51 | AnduinLothar | yup |
| 22:37.52 | Iriel | and if you do, does changing them change the button |
| 22:38.00 | Iriel | or do you have to call the button function directly for that |
| 22:38.15 | AnduinLothar | mmm you can hide the textures or change them.. |
| 22:38.20 | AnduinLothar | via name |
| 22:38.33 | AnduinLothar | i believe. lemme double check |
| 22:38.44 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 22:38.49 | AnduinLothar | I did it with the highlight |
| 22:38.59 | AnduinLothar | heck all of them |
| 22:39.11 | Iriel | So you're not using SetHighlightTexture |
| 22:39.19 | AnduinLothar | nope |
| 22:39.27 | Iriel | you're using WhateverICalledMyHighlightTexture:Set* |
| 22:39.44 | AnduinLothar | mmm, i didn't actually try changing the texture, just hide/show |
| 22:39.46 | AnduinLothar | and alpha |
| 22:40.38 | AnduinLothar | because before I made another frame for the flashing I was using the highlight |
| 22:41.11 | AnduinLothar | getglobal(this:GetName().."Highlight"):SetAlpha(.75); |
| 22:41.19 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.38 | AnduinLothar | works dandy |
| 22:41.58 | AnduinLothar | ina Button |
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| 22:42.19 | AnduinLothar | the layering is a pain in the ass tho |
| 22:42.29 | AnduinLothar | especially when I wanted to add one |
| 22:43.18 | AnduinLothar | had to make a <Layer level="OVERLAY"> and then put my flash texture in it |
| 22:43.35 | Tain | Now the new function works differently where it's Button:SetHighlightTexture() instead of ButtonHighlight:SetTexture() (off the top of my head) |
| 22:43.37 | Fanook | this is a baaad page... http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Addon_Installer |
| 22:45.02 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.24 | AnduinLothar | didn't read that far back |
| 22:45.28 | AnduinLothar | or in depth |
| 22:45.34 | Tain | It's not that big a deal in MC. It seems like it would be, but I never saw it. |
| 22:45.37 | AnduinLothar | why is it changing? |
| 22:46.01 | AnduinLothar | ony fire res is good |
| 22:46.03 | Tain | To pass the texture object to the function instead of just the texture path, I guess. |
| 22:46.14 | AnduinLothar | ooooh |
| 22:46.17 | AnduinLothar | ok |
| 22:46.20 | Shouryuu | ok night people |
| 22:46.23 | AnduinLothar | for virtual objects |
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| 22:46.43 | AnduinLothar | that makes sense |
| 22:47.15 | Tain | But then slouken says that the buttons won't have texture objects for those textures, to be able to query. |
| 22:47.29 | AnduinLothar | possibly he means just the virtual ones |
| 22:47.32 | Tain | Which is at least where my own understanding of what's going on takes a step out the window. |
| 22:49.45 | AnduinLothar | my guess it that they're not converted into frames as inherited templates, but are mapped directly onto whatever C representation they use |
| 22:50.54 | AnduinLothar | I've gotten the feeling the xml was created after the C mapping so not all of the info is directly represented |
| 22:52.16 | AnduinLothar | So the C side doesn't think of it as a sub layer with a texture object, but rather those defaults have a sepperate structure |
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| 22:54.20 | AnduinLothar | so while <Layers><Layer level="OVERLAY"><Texture file="moo"/></Layer></Layers> looks like HighlightTexture it's not represented the same way internally |
| 22:57.17 | AnduinLothar | HighlightTexture is probably a child of the Button Object ButtonObj.HighlightTexture, rather than being in the format ButtonObj.Layers[1].Textures[1] |
| 22:58.49 | AnduinLothar | but then i have no idea how the :Set commands work if it's not a texture object.. |
| 23:01.37 | Natasem | for you linus users whats a good freeware media player ? |
| 23:03.34 | AnduinLothar | lol, pre posted me tem |
| 23:03.58 | Natasem | linux* |
| 23:04.08 | Tem | AnduinLothar: that's why you should reload pages |
| 23:04.18 | Tem | especially since I posted that like 30 minutes ago |
| 23:04.24 | Beladona | mplayer |
| 23:04.25 | Tem | s/ago/before you/ |
| 23:04.28 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 23:04.28 | Beladona | Natasem |
| 23:04.32 | Natasem | ? |
| 23:04.40 | Natasem | o thanks |
| 23:04.49 | Beladona | Natasem: a good freeware media player is mplayer |
| 23:04.57 | Natasem | ya thanks |
| 23:05.04 | Beladona | if you want to watch DVD's you might try totem though |
| 23:05.12 | Beladona | mplayer doesn't support dvd menus |
| 23:07.11 | AnduinLothar | vlc have a linux vers? |
| 23:07.25 | AnduinLothar | it's just an mplayer gui |
| 23:07.48 | AnduinLothar | ya. it does |
| 23:07.55 | AnduinLothar | http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ |
| 23:09.16 | AnduinLothar | oh wow, lol been a few updates to that since last i saw |
| 23:09.30 | AnduinLothar | they used the itunes gui |
| 23:09.39 | AnduinLothar | on mac anyway |
| 23:10.09 | Tem | AnduinLothar: you can switch between a few guis |
| 23:10.18 | AnduinLothar | is that new? |
| 23:10.21 | Tem | I guess the itunes looking one is the default on Macs |
| 23:10.23 | Tem | No idea |
| 23:11.13 | AnduinLothar | nifty |
| 23:11.22 | AnduinLothar | playlists might actually be useful now |
| 23:11.48 | AnduinLothar | and eq O.o |
| 23:12.14 | AnduinLothar | LOL, turns out i've been using it and never noticed |
| 23:12.27 | AnduinLothar | ~lart AnduinLothar |
| 23:12.41 | AnduinLothar | *cough* |
| 23:14.22 | AnduinLothar | that attempt at poetry failed... might have somehting to do with the street fighter remix track playing... |
| 23:15.11 | AnduinLothar | is there any good way to download the entire collection of Blizz Fan art backgrounds at a certain res? |
| 23:35.03 | Cairenn | the *fan* ones? not that I'm aware of. Most of the official Blizz ones are in their Fansite Kit, though. |
| 23:35.14 | Cairenn | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/other-downloads.html |
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| 23:40.45 | Natasem | hehe like my 1 word answer? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=307778 |
| 23:56.15 | Natasem | is there a change log on the http://auctioneeraddon.com site? |
