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00:07.25krkahow about this, if cd-burning works fine and dvd-burning does not?
00:07.35Natasemusually when i am "backing up" my movies with my dvd burner i turn on the program to transcode the files onto a disk and walk away and make sure there is nothing running in the back ground
00:08.55Natasemkrka:  what kinda media, burner, burner firmware, program you are trying to use to burn with, and the thing you are trying to burn
00:09.21NatasemO and your OS
00:10.17krkadvd-r media, sony dru-800a burner, firmware KY05, program is mkisofs, trying to burn a copy of futurama dvd s1 disk 1, os = linux
00:11.28krkaoh, and burning cds work perfectly fine... hmm.. k3b even shows the buffer then
00:11.31krkait doesn't for dvds
00:11.53krkaprobably the media then... other media worked fine
00:14.13Natasemfirst try this:
00:14.15Natasemhttp://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/firmware.htm#800
00:15.24Natasemand whats the brand name of the media you are useing
00:15.35krkaRiDisc DVD-R 8X
00:15.48Natasemnever heard of RiDisc
00:17.40krkamight be crap I suppose
00:17.58Natasemlooks like it is your media
00:18.13krkayeah :&
00:18.19krkaglad it's not my burner atleast
00:18.27Natasemmirror branded media like ridisc should be avoid it like the plague.
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00:19.01Natasemi got that out of my media site
00:19.07krkalink?
00:19.30krkabut ritek is good?
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00:21.10Natasemthey say that Mitsubishi (Verbatim) & Taiyo Yuden are the best
00:21.46Natasemhttp://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=112854&highlight=RiDisc
00:22.58Natasemhttp://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146146
00:23.12krkacrap :)
00:25.13Natasemlol
00:25.13krkashould have known, when all my tdk burnt perfectly and all of these failed
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00:26.52Guillotinelol. someone using the online irc client at wowguru
00:27.20zeegmmhmm
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00:29.24Natasemif ya ever try to back up your movies let me know i'l help ya out there too
00:33.10krkaanything i need to keep in mind there?
00:33.12pagefaultworld of lagcraft
00:33.17krkacant I just do a digital copy and burn that?
00:34.01TemAha!
00:34.19TemI've been wondering what the default UI used FontString:SetAlphaGradient for
00:34.37TemThe quest description scroll in thing
00:34.45TemI've had that disabled for so long I forgot it was there
00:38.04zeeganyone here have a windows machine w/ remote desktop server and want to host the wowguru bot for me? :)
00:38.33Guillotinewhy? has your computer conked out zeeg?
00:38.52zeegi got rid of my windows desktop
00:38.56zeegand i dont have the php bot ready yet
00:41.09Natasemkrka no you can't
00:45.32Natasemkrka you get my PM?
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00:52.02Natasemdid Cide or TS post a place to get the CT_Ra beta ?
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01:00.35ForgottenLordsanyone know if the Elemental Invasions happen on a regular schedule or randomly?
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01:12.52GenNMX1/quit
01:14.36OsagasuHey Anduin, you live?
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01:25.49AnduinLotharno
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01:39.15Flisher_CodingBoya
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02:02.52NatasemBona
02:04.24NatasemOK who killed the forums:   Forum Not Ready
02:04.53Guillotinetem of course
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02:11.32Flishereurope got some server down... they probably mailed our forum server to them as a spare
02:14.13Guillotinehaha
02:14.53Flisherserver load balancing mean sending server where they are needed no?
02:14.53Flisherlol
02:15.38Flisheranyone had chance to test RaidAwareness in real action? I was suppose to get news from the curse-gaming guild but theyr server was down today
02:25.09Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2757#1474
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02:27.12Guillotineooooo. tell dolby ty for me :D
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02:27.15Guillotinethat looks awesome!
02:28.14Flisherwhat's that cairenn?
02:28.23Cairennrss feeds
02:28.42CairennGuillotine: tell him yourself, post in the thread I linked. ;)
02:29.12Guillotineoh ya
02:29.15Guillotineforgot I could post...
02:29.19Cairennmeans more coming from the community than from me
02:29.20GuillotineI'm out of it today :/
02:29.36Guillotinejust got bumped up on my medicines >_<
02:31.24Cairennhappy happy joy joy
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02:35.41ToastTheifGenNMX
02:35.45ToastTheifwhat is Onenon?
02:42.01AnduinLotharstill 3 peeps in darn ah..
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02:44.32OsagasuOh Anduin, would it be possible to add a Helm/Cloak show switch to your version of wardrobe? >.>
02:45.06AnduinLotharwhy?
02:45.17AnduinLotharit's in the interface options
02:45.47OsagasuBecause that takes 30 plus seconds... and you can always go through and right click the equipment to equip them, right?
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02:46.05FlisherAnduinlothar": where can we find your wardrobe?
02:46.06AnduinLotharu mean have it showing for certain pieces and not others?
02:46.25OsagasuYea
02:46.26Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4471
02:46.40AnduinLotharinteresting idea
02:47.06AnduinLotharwould prolly have to have some sort of chewckbox for each outsit
02:49.34FlisherAnduinlothar: Suggestion: add a bank/inventory cleaner... I mean, you check the outfit you wanna take, and it empty all other pieces of equipment except trinket into the bank, or take the pieces required in the bank too
02:50.22AnduinLotharinteresting idea
02:51.22AnduinLotharbut i gtg
02:51.44Cairennlater AnduinLothar
02:53.50Osagasubyw
02:53.52Osagasubye
02:53.59Corrodiasso here's my question
02:54.14Corrodiasi heard there is some profession bug around level 225. what's up with that? i haven't gotten someone to tell me, yet.
02:54.32Flishergoing to bed, cya!
02:54.37Cairennnight Flisher
02:54.40Corrodiasni
02:56.05Corrodiasfound it, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-professions&t=40
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02:59.41Corrodiasapparently it only affects secondary professions
03:00.34OsagasuI'll tell you when my fishing gets to 225.
03:00.44Osagasuor even sooner, my first aid
03:01.25Corrodias"# Several users have completed the quest and had level changed to Artisan, but skill is maxed at 225, not 300. Bug was discovered in mid December. Last update from GM was "Unfortunately, as of yet we have no resolution for this issue." (1/25) or "Unfortunately at this time our staff is still looking into what is causing the issue. We have no way of resetting secondary professions at this time. We apologize for the inconvenience." (2/2)
03:01.25Corrodias# To prevent bug, make sure to skill up to 226 before leaving the zone. This means you should have all the stuff you need to make at least one skill up with you, when you complete the quest. "
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03:01.51IrielThat's been around as a reported issue for MONTHS
03:02.08Cairennthat has been around ... god, since CB I think?
03:02.15Cairennit's not like it's anything new, that's for sure
03:02.17Irielgiven the dates on that post, almost a year
03:02.27Corrodiaspossibly, but WoW keeps getting new users who don't know about it
03:02.29Iriel(2 weeks shy of a year)
03:02.30Corrodiasi just joined under two months ago
03:02.42Irieldoes the bug still exist tho?
03:02.52Corrodiasi think i heard someone complaining about it in-game just recently
03:03.42Fanookthere was a skillup bug in the 1.9 patch, but i'm pretty sure it's not that one
03:04.05Corrodiasoh? could you please explain or link to an explanation of that one?
03:04.30IrielThat one was 'you dont skill up as fast as you should'
03:08.28IrielSo, I'm trying to balance infinite customization with my sanity for StatRings, and i'm trying to think of different ways of laying out the mana and health rings for a single unit.
03:09.13IrielSo far I have: Concentric (one inside the other), Split Ring (Half one bar, half the other), and Side-by-Side (Adjacent whole rings)
03:09.27IrielAre there any sane alternatives anyone can think of
03:12.56Corrodiashuge opaque bars that block your vision
03:13.20IrielThat sounds like a scaling/alpha setting 8-)
03:15.38MentalPowerIriel could I ask for centered party rings for when you have less than a full party?
03:16.01IrielThat's on my list, I actually was doodling pictures of that during a meeting today 8-)
03:16.12MentalPowerYay!
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03:39.22Guillotinehello WOWGURU-7634
03:39.32Guillotinelol
03:39.50Guillotineyou want to give us a real nick to call you? type /nick *name*
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03:46.00EsamynnEvening all
03:46.04Cairennhi Esamynn
03:47.08Esamynngot an XML question if anyone is game, Is the only way to assign text to a FontString from a Lua variable via the :SetText method?
03:47.19IrielYes
03:47.21Esamynnor can you do it directly in the XML?
03:47.32IrielYou can't set a dynamic value in the XML
03:47.39Esamynnok, thought so, thanks
03:47.44IrielI believe XML values get resolved via TEXT(VALUE) at startup
03:47.57zeeg!item benediction
03:48.00zeeghrm
03:48.01Irielso if they're present in the globalstrings they can appear
03:48.03zeeg!item zeeg
03:48.06zeeg!item adfjapoiejrpoiqjweoijqwer
03:48.31IrielI just dont know WHEN that happens in the load sequence
03:48.36zeegwtf
03:48.37zeegoh
03:48.38zeegwrong chan
03:48.39zeegmy bad
03:48.40zeegsorry
03:50.03MentalPowerwhat's the channel fo rqueries then?
03:54.38Guil|Laundrythe WoWguru channel
03:56.22zeegits not on this network
03:56.27zeegi could put it somewhere on here if there's another wow chan
03:56.37zeegwell the old bot is down, because its on my old machine which i cant access atm
03:56.40zeegso im making a temporary new one
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03:56.59Esamynnoh, is that what TEXT does, interesting
03:58.08Esamynni'm just setting up localization strings and I wanted to know if I had to use SetText was all
03:59.57IrielIf you do them as globals I dont believe you have to
04:00.10zeegoo
04:00.13zeegruning wow at 1680x1050
04:00.42Irielwidescreen laptop?
04:00.51zeegya
04:01.13IrielI love wow in widescreen, I used to run it that way even before I had a WS monitor
04:04.41Esamynnyou mean as long as they are globals I can use TEST(<variable name>) in the XML instead of "<text>" ?
04:04.41EsamynnTEXT*
04:04.49IrielNo, I think you do text="GLOBALVARIABLENAME"
04:05.01Esamynnoh ok, i'll try that
04:05.04Irieland the game uses TEXT(GLOBALVARIABLENAME) when assigning the initial value
04:05.17Esamynnahh ok
04:05.20Irielor is that TEXT("GLOBALVARIABLENAME") I forget
04:05.23Irieleither way
04:05.26Irieljust try it 8-)
04:06.07Esamynnyes that does work
04:06.21Esamynn<FontString name="$parentTitleText" inherits="GameFontNormal" text="GROUPHEALCONFIG_FRAMETITLE">
04:09.00Irielyay
04:11.08Esamynnnow, if I can just track down the officer notes problem :(
04:11.51IrielFrom my experience, it seemed to happen around the time someone new from the guild logged in
04:11.57Irielbut that couldhave been coincidence
04:12.25Esamynni've been comparing notes with a few ppl in the thread to see if there is a common set of circumstances
04:13.13EsamynnThe problem didn't start for us until I started using the officer notes for data tags, at which point we went from using almost none of them to almost all of them
04:13.37IrielI use ours to track whose alts are whose
04:13.46Irielso I only manually update, and not very often
04:14.29Esamynnthe tags are only undated by hand, the mod only reads from them
04:17.34Esamynnsigh, UI forums are always nice and civil until post-patch, then we always get the wierdos :(
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04:31.24Cairennjust the usual run of "omg, theyres notin on my comp y u ban me!" bullshit
04:45.59CodayusCairenn: You think any of those are legit?
04:46.06Cairennbullshit
04:46.21Temthey are all bullshit and it annoys the crap out of me
04:46.42Temthis is why I wish there was a filter to keep the "normies" out of of forum
04:47.18Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=299822
04:48.03CairennThere, does that sum it up well enough?
04:50.02Temthere would be no more "is decursive banned yet?" "support the g15!" "ZOMG I GOT BANNED FOR CT_MOD!" "I made an agro meter mod but I'm not sharing it" threads
04:52.13TainCan anyone help me with a weapon swapping macro?
04:52.16Tain:)
04:53.13Tain:D
04:57.54Cairennso no one gonna comment on my thread? or is everyone scared of me atm? :p
04:58.10TainOh
04:58.16TainI didn't look back that far
05:06.51MentalPowerWhat thread?
05:07.20TainThe one she linked in the channel.
05:08.03Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=299822
05:09.21zeeggah damn mac
05:10.21zeegAnduinLothar
05:10.25zeeghow do you format a drive?
05:10.25zeegerr
05:10.29zeegby format i mean change stuff
05:11.11MentalPowerCairenn: nice :)
05:11.23zeegi dont get why no files show on the mac :(
05:11.30Cairennnot really, I was being rather cranky in it :p
05:11.55Cairennbut thanks anyway ;)
05:14.11Cairenn(at least when I'm being a cranky bitch, I still do try to offer some actual helpful suggestions)
05:15.10MentalPowernow all we need is a sticky
05:15.26zeegwewt!
05:15.28zeegfinally got sharing working
05:15.58Maldiviahehe
05:16.14zeegnow to just figur eout how to share the drive which says it has no files
05:21.21zeegwewt
05:21.22zeeggot it to share
05:21.27zeegtoo pad this pc says its emptyh too
05:21.28zeeglol
05:28.31AnduinLothari would say your drive has issues, but i dont have much experience with NTSF on mac
05:29.20AnduinLotharformatting a drive is done through the Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility
05:37.39zeeghrm
05:37.43zeegim gonna try reinstalling osx
05:37.47zeegthe drive worked fine
05:37.49zeegand there's 3 drives
05:37.51zeegall doing the same thing
05:38.59AnduinLotharif you can the data ll backed up on another drive you're much better off reformatting to the mac os x journaled default
05:39.09zeegits not backed up tho
05:39.13zeeg:(
05:39.21zeegmy external enclosure wont be here til monday so
05:39.27AnduinLothardo you have another drive with space for the data?
05:39.29zeeghoping to be able to access all this junk before monday
05:39.36zeegnot enough space
05:39.39zeegthere's like 400gb of stuff
05:40.01zeegbut it should be able to read the drive
05:40.04zeegit calcs the space/etc right
05:40.07zeegjust not showing files
05:40.11zeegand i wanna reinstall anyways
05:40.17zeegso im hoping 2 birds with one stone
05:42.42zeegso what exactly makes a mac a mac?
05:42.43Corrodiasgrrr
05:42.48zeegis it a special mobo?
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05:43.33Corrodiasi want to sell this silk (or silk bandages) to alliance players at ~60s each but the deposit price in gadgetzan will ruin me if it doesn't sell
05:44.43Guil|Migraineare we supposed to be able to help that?
05:44.52Guil|Migraineor was it just info?
05:45.10Corrodiasnah.. unless you play on ET
05:45.54Guil|Migrainenope. we still couldn't help you though
05:46.00Corrodiascomplaining and trolling for a possible solution
05:46.20AnduinLotharyes, macs have custom built motherboards and chips used almost exclusively in macs as well as custom built case, system archetecture, bios depending on version, and operating system
05:48.10zeeghrm
05:48.17zeegso how do i upgrade them
05:48.18zeeg:p
05:48.25AnduinLotharnow a days they use fairly standard component parts, but the above is still true. however for your old machine you aren't likely to find many pc standards
05:48.36zeeghrm
05:48.57AnduinLotharyou have a 10 year old G3 PowerMac. It's gonna be nearly impossible
05:49.31TainYeah so I was bored and didn't feel like playing anything.  I rewrote Titan Panel to have all of its "internal" plugins external and able to be placed wherever you want instead of only in the corner.
05:50.26Cairennand you have it posted ... where?
05:50.41AnduinLotharyou can max out the ram, upgrade the harddrives (given the right conenctions) and buy upgrade kits that one or two companies might still sell such as sonnex and something else. but for the most part... it's old and nearly worthless except to use in it's current state as a file server
05:50.44TainWell nowhere.  I was just testing it. :)
05:51.08Cairennwell, when you get it all tested and have it all nicely cleaned up and stuff, release it :p
05:51.21TainPlus I still need to come up with a name for it.  LIke, "Titan Panel - The Non-Sucky Version"
05:52.12CorrodiasTitan Panel XL
05:52.14CorrodiasXtreme
05:52.18Corrodias6000
05:52.24CorrodiasSpecial Edition
05:53.38AnduinLotharTitan Revised
05:53.50AnduinLotharwhat'd u do to it?
05:56.39AnduinLothari'm really very confused as to why Wardrobe is so popular
05:59.47zeeggrawr
05:59.49TainA lot of closet transvestites?
05:59.51zeeghey guys
05:59.52zeegquestion
06:00.28zeegon an items page, woiuld a table listed towareds the bottom of "similar items" which would say for example, show any "One-Hand Sword" (if thats the wep you're looking at) thats within 3 levels either way of the level of the weapon you're looking at?
06:07.06Guil|MigraineAnduin: I could not live without wardrobe
06:07.15Guil|Migraineas a druid, I have 3 16 slot bags full of armor
06:08.05AnduinLotharya i have 2 bags full that i use regularly
06:08.45zeegthis last 4 minutes of installation is taking like 30 minutes
06:08.50AnduinLotharzeeg you whine a lot. you know that?
06:08.54zeegyep
06:09.05zeegMAKE IT WORK
06:09.27AnduinLotharyour expectations are too high. it's a damn 10 year old computer. be glad it runs a modern OS
06:10.02pagefaultanyone know of a good music sync utility to a portable player
06:10.11zeegi just want it to network my drives
06:10.12zeeg:P
06:10.15zeegpagefault, itunesA?
06:10.17zeeg-A
06:10.24pagefaultI don't have an ipod
06:10.28pagefaultnot sure it supports it
06:10.43zeegoh probably dont, no idea then
06:11.20pagefaulthmm
06:11.23pagefaultI can just copy it
06:12.33Guil|MigraineHOLY COW. just watched http://www.the-hotness.com/wow/brd2man.wmv . Its a full 2-man BRD run. they kill the emperor and everything
06:12.38Guil|Migrainestupid thunderfury
06:13.58zeegreally?
06:14.02zeegthats crazy
06:14.45Guil|Migraineya
06:14.49zeeghttp://wow.mmotheatre.com/2155/2man-brd.html
06:14.49zeegthere
06:14.50zeeg:p
06:14.51pagefaultI guess I get to use WMP
06:14.55EndI know a guy who used to two man BRD
06:15.18Guil|Migrainethey killed emp too?
06:15.19EndI never saw him do it though, so I'm just taking his word for it
06:15.23Enddunno...
06:15.28EndI didn't ask
06:15.39Endhe had it all planned out to five man all of ubrs too
06:15.55Guil|Migraineg2g guys
06:15.57Guil|Migrainettyl
06:16.31zeegconsidering they 10-manned onyxia.. i wouldnt doubt it
06:16.47Endyeah
06:18.48TainDamn.  Fixing the window moving stuff is going to take longer.  Maybe tomorrow.
06:20.42AnduinLothartain i can send u my hacked version
06:21.03AnduinLothari made it so when you disable the option is actually disables the hooks
06:28.59Cairennnight all
06:29.04futrtrublpagefault, musicmatch will probably support your player
06:29.09futrtrublnight cair
06:29.45pagefaultthey work in linux
06:29.50pagefault?
06:30.04futrtrublahhh,, ummmm, check their website
06:30.28futrtrublwinamp should may have a module, oh WINamp...
06:30.49pagefaultI want something to update my songs on linux
06:30.49pagefaulthehe
06:31.06CorrodiasCEEEEE-LE-BRATE GOOD TIMES, COME ON!
06:31.15futrtrublwell, that's your problem right there ;']
06:32.38futrtrublcorrodias, I'm going to put NoXPBar up at beb.edowner.net/noxpbar.html, and I'm going to put a forum up for it at forums.edowner.net, if you create an account there I'll give you mod priveledges
06:37.24Endnooooooooooo
06:37.42futrtrublanakin type no?
06:37.43Endhttp://wowmapview.sourceforge.net/ gives forbidden error message
06:41.54pagefaultI forgot to pay my cell bill
06:42.01pagefaultor top it up
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06:45.08pagefaultI look forward to see CSI
06:45.27pagefaultmt
06:46.15futrtrublI love CSI
06:46.44Endwtf
06:46.49Endendx7@sc8-pr-shell1(/home/users/e/en/endx7) % ls -ldh /home/groups/w/wo/wowmapview/
06:46.52Endd---------  5 root root 4.0K Mar 28  2005 /home/groups/w/wo/wowmapview/
07:00.50Corrodiaswiwnaov==
07:00.53Corrodias... wowmapview?
07:01.23futrtrublCorrodias: say my meeage further up?
07:01.35futrtrublmessage*
07:01.43Corrodiasnow i do
07:01.59Corrodiasdon't know if it's worth any trouble like that
07:02.17Corrodiasit's not like it's going to need much for maintenance or new features
07:02.23futrtrublnp, though registering is free ;']
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11:05.15Corrodiasthey snuck in an update!
11:07.10Corrodiasand they automatically unchecked "load out of date addons" again
11:07.17Corrodiasthat's starting to annoy me
11:20.53Depheriosyes
11:21.00Depheriosthat really annoyed me as well
11:23.22Corrodiassourceforge appears to be taking a dump
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00:07.25krkahow about this, if cd-burning works fine and dvd-burning does not?
00:07.35Natasemusually when i am "backing up" my movies with my dvd burner i turn on the program to transcode the files onto a disk and walk away and make sure there is nothing running in the back ground
00:08.55Natasemkrka:  what kinda media, burner, burner firmware, program you are trying to use to burn with, and the thing you are trying to burn
00:09.21NatasemO and your OS
00:10.17krkadvd-r media, sony dru-800a burner, firmware KY05, program is mkisofs, trying to burn a copy of futurama dvd s1 disk 1, os = linux
00:11.28krkaoh, and burning cds work perfectly fine... hmm.. k3b even shows the buffer then
00:11.31krkait doesn't for dvds
00:11.53krkaprobably the media then... other media worked fine
00:14.13Natasemfirst try this:
00:14.15Natasemhttp://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/firmware.htm#800
00:15.24Natasemand whats the brand name of the media you are useing
00:15.35krkaRiDisc DVD-R 8X
00:15.48Natasemnever heard of RiDisc
00:17.40krkamight be crap I suppose
00:17.58Natasemlooks like it is your media
00:18.13krkayeah :&
00:18.19krkaglad it's not my burner atleast
00:18.27Natasemmirror branded media like ridisc should be avoid it like the plague.
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00:19.01Natasemi got that out of my media site
00:19.07krkalink?
00:19.30krkabut ritek is good?
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00:21.10Natasemthey say that Mitsubishi (Verbatim) & Taiyo Yuden are the best
00:21.46Natasemhttp://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=112854&highlight=RiDisc
00:22.58Natasemhttp://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146146
00:23.12krkacrap :)
00:25.13Natasemlol
00:25.13krkashould have known, when all my tdk burnt perfectly and all of these failed
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00:26.52Guillotinelol. someone using the online irc client at wowguru
00:27.20zeegmmhmm
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00:29.24Natasemif ya ever try to back up your movies let me know i'l help ya out there too
00:33.10krkaanything i need to keep in mind there?
00:33.12pagefaultworld of lagcraft
00:33.17krkacant I just do a digital copy and burn that?
00:34.01TemAha!
00:34.19TemI've been wondering what the default UI used FontString:SetAlphaGradient for
00:34.37TemThe quest description scroll in thing
00:34.45TemI've had that disabled for so long I forgot it was there
00:38.04zeeganyone here have a windows machine w/ remote desktop server and want to host the wowguru bot for me? :)
00:38.33Guillotinewhy? has your computer conked out zeeg?
00:38.52zeegi got rid of my windows desktop
00:38.56zeegand i dont have the php bot ready yet
00:41.09Natasemkrka no you can't
00:45.32Natasemkrka you get my PM?
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00:52.02Natasemdid Cide or TS post a place to get the CT_Ra beta ?
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01:00.35ForgottenLordsanyone know if the Elemental Invasions happen on a regular schedule or randomly?
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01:12.52GenNMX1/quit
01:14.36OsagasuHey Anduin, you live?
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01:25.49AnduinLotharno
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01:39.15Flisher_CodingBoya
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02:02.52NatasemBona
02:04.24NatasemOK who killed the forums:   Forum Not Ready
02:04.53Guillotinetem of course
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02:11.32Flishereurope got some server down... they probably mailed our forum server to them as a spare
02:14.13Guillotinehaha
02:14.53Flisherserver load balancing mean sending server where they are needed no?
02:14.53Flisherlol
02:15.38Flisheranyone had chance to test RaidAwareness in real action? I was suppose to get news from the curse-gaming guild but theyr server was down today
02:25.09Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2757#1474
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02:27.12Guillotineooooo. tell dolby ty for me :D
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02:27.15Guillotinethat looks awesome!
02:28.14Flisherwhat's that cairenn?
02:28.23Cairennrss feeds
02:28.42CairennGuillotine: tell him yourself, post in the thread I linked. ;)
02:29.12Guillotineoh ya
02:29.15Guillotineforgot I could post...
02:29.19Cairennmeans more coming from the community than from me
02:29.20GuillotineI'm out of it today :/
02:29.36Guillotinejust got bumped up on my medicines >_<
02:31.24Cairennhappy happy joy joy
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02:35.41ToastTheifGenNMX
02:35.45ToastTheifwhat is Onenon?
02:42.01AnduinLotharstill 3 peeps in darn ah..
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02:44.32OsagasuOh Anduin, would it be possible to add a Helm/Cloak show switch to your version of wardrobe? >.>
02:45.06AnduinLotharwhy?
02:45.17AnduinLotharit's in the interface options
02:45.47OsagasuBecause that takes 30 plus seconds... and you can always go through and right click the equipment to equip them, right?
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02:46.05FlisherAnduinlothar": where can we find your wardrobe?
02:46.06AnduinLotharu mean have it showing for certain pieces and not others?
02:46.25OsagasuYea
02:46.26Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4471
02:46.40AnduinLotharinteresting idea
02:47.06AnduinLotharwould prolly have to have some sort of chewckbox for each outsit
02:49.34FlisherAnduinlothar: Suggestion: add a bank/inventory cleaner... I mean, you check the outfit you wanna take, and it empty all other pieces of equipment except trinket into the bank, or take the pieces required in the bank too
02:50.22AnduinLotharinteresting idea
02:51.22AnduinLotharbut i gtg
02:51.44Cairennlater AnduinLothar
02:53.50Osagasubyw
02:53.52Osagasubye
02:53.59Corrodiasso here's my question
02:54.14Corrodiasi heard there is some profession bug around level 225. what's up with that? i haven't gotten someone to tell me, yet.
02:54.32Flishergoing to bed, cya!
02:54.37Cairennnight Flisher
02:54.40Corrodiasni
02:56.05Corrodiasfound it, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-professions&t=40
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02:59.41Corrodiasapparently it only affects secondary professions
03:00.34OsagasuI'll tell you when my fishing gets to 225.
03:00.44Osagasuor even sooner, my first aid
03:01.25Corrodias"# Several users have completed the quest and had level changed to Artisan, but skill is maxed at 225, not 300. Bug was discovered in mid December. Last update from GM was "Unfortunately, as of yet we have no resolution for this issue." (1/25) or "Unfortunately at this time our staff is still looking into what is causing the issue. We have no way of resetting secondary professions at this time. We apologize for the inconvenience." (2/2)
03:01.25Corrodias# To prevent bug, make sure to skill up to 226 before leaving the zone. This means you should have all the stuff you need to make at least one skill up with you, when you complete the quest. "
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03:01.51IrielThat's been around as a reported issue for MONTHS
03:02.08Cairennthat has been around ... god, since CB I think?
03:02.15Cairennit's not like it's anything new, that's for sure
03:02.17Irielgiven the dates on that post, almost a year
03:02.27Corrodiaspossibly, but WoW keeps getting new users who don't know about it
03:02.29Iriel(2 weeks shy of a year)
03:02.30Corrodiasi just joined under two months ago
03:02.42Irieldoes the bug still exist tho?
03:02.52Corrodiasi think i heard someone complaining about it in-game just recently
03:03.42Fanookthere was a skillup bug in the 1.9 patch, but i'm pretty sure it's not that one
03:04.05Corrodiasoh? could you please explain or link to an explanation of that one?
03:04.30IrielThat one was 'you dont skill up as fast as you should'
03:08.28IrielSo, I'm trying to balance infinite customization with my sanity for StatRings, and i'm trying to think of different ways of laying out the mana and health rings for a single unit.
03:09.13IrielSo far I have: Concentric (one inside the other), Split Ring (Half one bar, half the other), and Side-by-Side (Adjacent whole rings)
03:09.27IrielAre there any sane alternatives anyone can think of
03:12.56Corrodiashuge opaque bars that block your vision
03:13.20IrielThat sounds like a scaling/alpha setting 8-)
03:15.38MentalPowerIriel could I ask for centered party rings for when you have less than a full party?
03:16.01IrielThat's on my list, I actually was doodling pictures of that during a meeting today 8-)
03:16.12MentalPowerYay!
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03:39.22Guillotinehello WOWGURU-7634
03:39.32Guillotinelol
03:39.50Guillotineyou want to give us a real nick to call you? type /nick *name*
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03:46.00EsamynnEvening all
03:46.04Cairennhi Esamynn
03:47.08Esamynngot an XML question if anyone is game, Is the only way to assign text to a FontString from a Lua variable via the :SetText method?
03:47.19IrielYes
03:47.21Esamynnor can you do it directly in the XML?
03:47.32IrielYou can't set a dynamic value in the XML
03:47.39Esamynnok, thought so, thanks
03:47.44IrielI believe XML values get resolved via TEXT(VALUE) at startup
03:47.57zeeg!item benediction
03:48.00zeeghrm
03:48.01Irielso if they're present in the globalstrings they can appear
03:48.03zeeg!item zeeg
03:48.06zeeg!item adfjapoiejrpoiqjweoijqwer
03:48.31IrielI just dont know WHEN that happens in the load sequence
03:48.36zeegwtf
03:48.37zeegoh
03:48.38zeegwrong chan
03:48.39zeegmy bad
03:48.40zeegsorry
03:50.03MentalPowerwhat's the channel fo rqueries then?
03:54.38Guil|Laundrythe WoWguru channel
03:56.22zeegits not on this network
03:56.27zeegi could put it somewhere on here if there's another wow chan
03:56.37zeegwell the old bot is down, because its on my old machine which i cant access atm
03:56.40zeegso im making a temporary new one
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03:56.59Esamynnoh, is that what TEXT does, interesting
03:58.08Esamynni'm just setting up localization strings and I wanted to know if I had to use SetText was all
03:59.57IrielIf you do them as globals I dont believe you have to
04:00.10zeegoo
04:00.13zeegruning wow at 1680x1050
04:00.42Irielwidescreen laptop?
04:00.51zeegya
04:01.13IrielI love wow in widescreen, I used to run it that way even before I had a WS monitor
04:04.41Esamynnyou mean as long as they are globals I can use TEST(<variable name>) in the XML instead of "<text>" ?
04:04.41EsamynnTEXT*
04:04.49IrielNo, I think you do text="GLOBALVARIABLENAME"
04:05.01Esamynnoh ok, i'll try that
04:05.04Irieland the game uses TEXT(GLOBALVARIABLENAME) when assigning the initial value
04:05.17Esamynnahh ok
04:05.20Irielor is that TEXT("GLOBALVARIABLENAME") I forget
04:05.23Irieleither way
04:05.26Irieljust try it 8-)
04:06.07Esamynnyes that does work
04:06.21Esamynn<FontString name="$parentTitleText" inherits="GameFontNormal" text="GROUPHEALCONFIG_FRAMETITLE">
04:09.00Irielyay
04:11.08Esamynnnow, if I can just track down the officer notes problem :(
04:11.51IrielFrom my experience, it seemed to happen around the time someone new from the guild logged in
04:11.57Irielbut that couldhave been coincidence
04:12.25Esamynni've been comparing notes with a few ppl in the thread to see if there is a common set of circumstances
04:13.13EsamynnThe problem didn't start for us until I started using the officer notes for data tags, at which point we went from using almost none of them to almost all of them
04:13.37IrielI use ours to track whose alts are whose
04:13.46Irielso I only manually update, and not very often
04:14.29Esamynnthe tags are only undated by hand, the mod only reads from them
04:17.34Esamynnsigh, UI forums are always nice and civil until post-patch, then we always get the wierdos :(
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04:31.24Cairennjust the usual run of "omg, theyres notin on my comp y u ban me!" bullshit
04:45.59CodayusCairenn: You think any of those are legit?
04:46.06Cairennbullshit
04:46.21Temthey are all bullshit and it annoys the crap out of me
04:46.42Temthis is why I wish there was a filter to keep the "normies" out of of forum
04:47.18Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=299822
04:48.03CairennThere, does that sum it up well enough?
04:50.02Temthere would be no more "is decursive banned yet?" "support the g15!" "ZOMG I GOT BANNED FOR CT_MOD!" "I made an agro meter mod but I'm not sharing it" threads
04:52.13TainCan anyone help me with a weapon swapping macro?
04:52.16Tain:)
04:53.13Tain:D
04:57.54Cairennso no one gonna comment on my thread? or is everyone scared of me atm? :p
04:58.10TainOh
04:58.16TainI didn't look back that far
05:06.51MentalPowerWhat thread?
05:07.20TainThe one she linked in the channel.
05:08.03Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=299822
05:09.21zeeggah damn mac
05:10.21zeegAnduinLothar
05:10.25zeeghow do you format a drive?
05:10.25zeegerr
05:10.29zeegby format i mean change stuff
05:11.11MentalPowerCairenn: nice :)
05:11.23zeegi dont get why no files show on the mac :(
05:11.30Cairennnot really, I was being rather cranky in it :p
05:11.55Cairennbut thanks anyway ;)
05:14.11Cairenn(at least when I'm being a cranky bitch, I still do try to offer some actual helpful suggestions)
05:15.10MentalPowernow all we need is a sticky
05:15.26zeegwewt!
05:15.28zeegfinally got sharing working
05:15.58Maldiviahehe
05:16.14zeegnow to just figur eout how to share the drive which says it has no files
05:21.21zeegwewt
05:21.22zeeggot it to share
05:21.27zeegtoo pad this pc says its emptyh too
05:21.28zeeglol
05:28.31AnduinLothari would say your drive has issues, but i dont have much experience with NTSF on mac
05:29.20AnduinLotharformatting a drive is done through the Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility
05:37.39zeeghrm
05:37.43zeegim gonna try reinstalling osx
05:37.47zeegthe drive worked fine
05:37.49zeegand there's 3 drives
05:37.51zeegall doing the same thing
05:38.59AnduinLotharif you can the data ll backed up on another drive you're much better off reformatting to the mac os x journaled default
05:39.09zeegits not backed up tho
05:39.13zeeg:(
05:39.21zeegmy external enclosure wont be here til monday so
05:39.27AnduinLothardo you have another drive with space for the data?
05:39.29zeeghoping to be able to access all this junk before monday
05:39.36zeegnot enough space
05:39.39zeegthere's like 400gb of stuff
05:40.01zeegbut it should be able to read the drive
05:40.04zeegit calcs the space/etc right
05:40.07zeegjust not showing files
05:40.11zeegand i wanna reinstall anyways
05:40.17zeegso im hoping 2 birds with one stone
05:42.42zeegso what exactly makes a mac a mac?
05:42.43Corrodiasgrrr
05:42.48zeegis it a special mobo?
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05:43.33Corrodiasi want to sell this silk (or silk bandages) to alliance players at ~60s each but the deposit price in gadgetzan will ruin me if it doesn't sell
05:44.43Guil|Migraineare we supposed to be able to help that?
05:44.52Guil|Migraineor was it just info?
05:45.10Corrodiasnah.. unless you play on ET
05:45.54Guil|Migrainenope. we still couldn't help you though
05:46.00Corrodiascomplaining and trolling for a possible solution
05:46.20AnduinLotharyes, macs have custom built motherboards and chips used almost exclusively in macs as well as custom built case, system archetecture, bios depending on version, and operating system
05:48.10zeeghrm
05:48.17zeegso how do i upgrade them
05:48.18zeeg:p
05:48.25AnduinLotharnow a days they use fairly standard component parts, but the above is still true. however for your old machine you aren't likely to find many pc standards
05:48.36zeeghrm
05:48.57AnduinLotharyou have a 10 year old G3 PowerMac. It's gonna be nearly impossible
05:49.31TainYeah so I was bored and didn't feel like playing anything.  I rewrote Titan Panel to have all of its "internal" plugins external and able to be placed wherever you want instead of only in the corner.
05:50.26Cairennand you have it posted ... where?
05:50.41AnduinLotharyou can max out the ram, upgrade the harddrives (given the right conenctions) and buy upgrade kits that one or two companies might still sell such as sonnex and something else. but for the most part... it's old and nearly worthless except to use in it's current state as a file server
05:50.44TainWell nowhere.  I was just testing it. :)
05:51.08Cairennwell, when you get it all tested and have it all nicely cleaned up and stuff, release it :p
05:51.21TainPlus I still need to come up with a name for it.  LIke, "Titan Panel - The Non-Sucky Version"
05:52.12CorrodiasTitan Panel XL
05:52.14CorrodiasXtreme
05:52.18Corrodias6000
05:52.24CorrodiasSpecial Edition
05:53.38AnduinLotharTitan Revised
05:53.50AnduinLotharwhat'd u do to it?
05:56.39AnduinLothari'm really very confused as to why Wardrobe is so popular
05:59.47zeeggrawr
05:59.49TainA lot of closet transvestites?
05:59.51zeeghey guys
05:59.52zeegquestion
06:00.28zeegon an items page, woiuld a table listed towareds the bottom of "similar items" which would say for example, show any "One-Hand Sword" (if thats the wep you're looking at) thats within 3 levels either way of the level of the weapon you're looking at?
06:07.06Guil|MigraineAnduin: I could not live without wardrobe
06:07.15Guil|Migraineas a druid, I have 3 16 slot bags full of armor
06:08.05AnduinLotharya i have 2 bags full that i use regularly
06:08.45zeegthis last 4 minutes of installation is taking like 30 minutes
06:08.50AnduinLotharzeeg you whine a lot. you know that?
06:08.54zeegyep
06:09.05zeegMAKE IT WORK
06:09.27AnduinLotharyour expectations are too high. it's a damn 10 year old computer. be glad it runs a modern OS
06:10.02pagefaultanyone know of a good music sync utility to a portable player
06:10.11zeegi just want it to network my drives
06:10.12zeeg:P
06:10.15zeegpagefault, itunesA?
06:10.17zeeg-A
06:10.24pagefaultI don't have an ipod
06:10.28pagefaultnot sure it supports it
06:10.43zeegoh probably dont, no idea then
06:11.20pagefaulthmm
06:11.23pagefaultI can just copy it
06:12.33Guil|MigraineHOLY COW. just watched http://www.the-hotness.com/wow/brd2man.wmv . Its a full 2-man BRD run. they kill the emperor and everything
06:12.38Guil|Migrainestupid thunderfury
06:13.58zeegreally?
06:14.02zeegthats crazy
06:14.45Guil|Migraineya
06:14.49zeeghttp://wow.mmotheatre.com/2155/2man-brd.html
06:14.49zeegthere
06:14.50zeeg:p
06:14.51pagefaultI guess I get to use WMP
06:14.55EndI know a guy who used to two man BRD
06:15.18Guil|Migrainethey killed emp too?
06:15.19EndI never saw him do it though, so I'm just taking his word for it
06:15.23Enddunno...
06:15.28EndI didn't ask
06:15.39Endhe had it all planned out to five man all of ubrs too
06:15.55Guil|Migraineg2g guys
06:15.57Guil|Migrainettyl
06:16.31zeegconsidering they 10-manned onyxia.. i wouldnt doubt it
06:16.47Endyeah
06:18.48TainDamn.  Fixing the window moving stuff is going to take longer.  Maybe tomorrow.
06:20.42AnduinLothartain i can send u my hacked version
06:21.03AnduinLothari made it so when you disable the option is actually disables the hooks
06:28.59Cairennnight all
06:29.04futrtrublpagefault, musicmatch will probably support your player
06:29.09futrtrublnight cair
06:29.45pagefaultthey work in linux
06:29.50pagefault?
06:30.04futrtrublahhh,, ummmm, check their website
06:30.28futrtrublwinamp should may have a module, oh WINamp...
06:30.49pagefaultI want something to update my songs on linux
06:30.49pagefaulthehe
06:31.06CorrodiasCEEEEE-LE-BRATE GOOD TIMES, COME ON!
06:31.15futrtrublwell, that's your problem right there ;']
06:32.38futrtrublcorrodias, I'm going to put NoXPBar up at beb.edowner.net/noxpbar.html, and I'm going to put a forum up for it at forums.edowner.net, if you create an account there I'll give you mod priveledges
06:37.24Endnooooooooooo
06:37.42futrtrublanakin type no?
06:37.43Endhttp://wowmapview.sourceforge.net/ gives forbidden error message
06:41.54pagefaultI forgot to pay my cell bill
06:42.01pagefaultor top it up
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06:45.08pagefaultI look forward to see CSI
06:45.27pagefaultmt
06:46.15futrtrublI love CSI
06:46.44Endwtf
06:46.49Endendx7@sc8-pr-shell1(/home/users/e/en/endx7) % ls -ldh /home/groups/w/wo/wowmapview/
06:46.52Endd---------  5 root root 4.0K Mar 28  2005 /home/groups/w/wo/wowmapview/
07:00.50Corrodiaswiwnaov==
07:00.53Corrodias... wowmapview?
07:01.23futrtrublCorrodias: say my meeage further up?
07:01.35futrtrublmessage*
07:01.43Corrodiasnow i do
07:01.59Corrodiasdon't know if it's worth any trouble like that
07:02.17Corrodiasit's not like it's going to need much for maintenance or new features
07:02.23futrtrublnp, though registering is free ;']
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11:05.15Corrodiasthey snuck in an update!
11:07.10Corrodiasand they automatically unchecked "load out of date addons" again
11:07.17Corrodiasthat's starting to annoy me
11:20.53Depheriosyes
11:21.00Depheriosthat really annoyed me as well
11:23.22Corrodiassourceforge appears to be taking a dump
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14:45.37Beladonagoord lord, I though it would never connect
14:46.05*** topic/#WoWI-lounge by Beladona -> Happy Birthday to Cair!
14:46.41Cairennheh, thanks
14:46.50Cairennyou're a day late, but appreciate the thought ;)
14:47.10Beladonagrrr
14:47.17Cairennnow change it back before anyone notices :p
14:47.29Beladonawhy would I do a thing like that?
14:47.31Beladonahaha
14:47.38*** topic/#WoWI-lounge by Cairenn -> Happy Coding
14:48.02Beladonawell
14:48.10BeladonaHappy Birthday anyway
14:48.12Cairenn:)
14:48.20Cairennthanks sweetie :)
14:48.33Beladonawish I had caught you yesterday
14:48.46Beladonaunfortuantely I can barely catch myself this week
14:48.50Cairennhehehe, I was just as glad you didn't
14:49.45Cidehappy birthday Cairenn :)
14:49.52Beladonathe week isn't over yet, and I think I am already at something like 50 hours
14:50.03Cairennthanks Cide
14:50.44CairennBeladona: ewww
14:50.55Beladonayeah
14:51.33Beladonaone night I went home at 5pm, went back to work at 7pm, left again at 3am, and went back at 6:30am
14:51.33CairennCide, you guys see the message(s) from Dolby in the FA forum?
14:51.41Cideyeah, I talked to him
14:51.51Cairennk
14:52.23Cairennhe hasn't slept yet, even though there wasn't a damn thing he could do until the data center slotted in a new hd
14:52.31Cairennstubborn male :p
14:52.46Cideyeah, I heard that.. he's always there when we need him, I thanked him for it once again :)
14:53.09Cidehaha, stubbornness isn't always bad!
14:57.43Beladonastubborness can be a virtue
14:57.49Beladonaespecially in the workplace
14:58.03Beladonaprovided you are stubborn about the right things
14:58.43BeladonaI got fired from one place due to my stubborness. But they ended up apologizing because I was right
14:59.58Cidedid you get the job back? (assuming you wanted it back)
15:00.13ElkanoO-tanjôbi omedetô gozaimasu Cairenn :)
15:00.43Cairennerrr
15:00.58CairennI'll hope that was something nice and just say thank you
15:00.58Elkano(Happy Birthday)
15:01.46Cairennthanks Elkano :)
15:04.26Elkano:)
15:05.08Elkanobtw: are there any known problems with JoinChannelByName() or GetChannelName() ?
15:05.18Beladonasorry I was afk
15:05.23Beladonano I didn't get the job back
15:05.25BeladonaI didn't want it
15:05.34Beladonabecause I got the job I am currently at
15:05.44Beladonamore pay, and I was in charge
15:06.11Beladonaso they sorta did me a favor
15:16.50Kalrothnice :)
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15:48.41Cairennoh Cide, will you *please* do me a favour?
15:48.51Cideof course
15:48.53Cidewhat is it?
15:48.58Cairennbefore I go RIGHT off on someone ....
15:49.06Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=300038&s=new&tmp=1#new
15:49.21Cidehaha, update
15:49.26Cairennjust did
15:49.27Cairennthank you
15:49.30Cideno problem :)
15:49.56Cairennand btw, toss the latest version up on WoWI
15:50.04Cairenndon't blow your guild's bandwidth
15:50.10Cairennthat's why we are here :)
15:50.22Cideoh, good point :)
15:50.30Cidetoo used to using FTP I guess
15:51.10Cairennjust don't want you to have to blow your guild's bandwidth when you've got all the space you want on our site :)
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15:52.30Maldiviahmm... the changes listed in Iriels thread for 1.9.2 fixes, are they in todays patchs, or postponed for 1.9.3 ?
15:52.52Endprobably postponed
15:53.13Beladonathere is a patch today?
15:53.24Endyeah, a really dinky one
15:53.30Maldivia1.9.2 - to fix the stutter movements
15:53.37Beladonamm
15:53.42Beladonagogogadget wdn
15:53.52Beladonaservers down or can we grab it now?
15:53.53Endit was midnight actually
15:53.58Endservers should be up
15:53.59Cairennsnag away
15:54.38CairennI've already got it
15:54.38Beladonacool
15:54.38Maldiviabut as far as I could tell, the only files that were updated were the exe files
15:54.38Beladonaright
15:54.38CairennCairenn: "General
15:54.38CairennCairenn: - Characters should no longer appear to "pop" around terrain.  Movement
15:54.38CairennCairenn:   should be smoother once again."
15:54.38CairennCairenn: that's the sum total of the notes
15:54.38Beladonabut for completelness I have to put it up
15:54.39Cairenn*nod*
15:54.39Endservers weren't even restarted...in fact, it didn't even boot you.  I got off 10 minutes until after the patch was "out", reconnected, and -then- it made me get it
15:54.39Maldiviayep - UnitBuff with filter not fixed :)
15:54.40Ender
15:54.45End10 minutes -after-, not until
15:54.47Ender
15:54.49Cairennbut, forums went down
15:54.53EndYou know what I mean
15:55.05EndI need to learn2proofreadbeforehittingenter
15:56.05Cairennbut that takes all the fun out of trying to guess wth you are trying to say, End!
15:56.07Cairenn;)
15:57.07Endlol
15:57.07Maldiviabtw - have you noticed the bad alphachannel on the new bag textures?
15:57.31Beladonaok taht sucks
15:58.08Beladonamy ip on my home machine changed, so my router isn't sending RDP traffic to the right ip. Anyone want to extract the interface files for me?
15:58.30Cairenn2 sec Bela
15:58.39EndI was just about to say wdn!, but then I realized what you were wanting to extract them for
15:58.54Beladonahaha
15:59.24BeladonaI wish I could get the interface kit to run under cedega / wine
15:59.33Cairennwhich one(s) do you want?
15:59.42Maldiviawhy not just use a commandline mpw-extractor then ?
15:59.58Beladonainterface/Addons, and Interface/FrameXML
16:00.01Cideanyone noticed that dropdowns are affected by UI scale now? seems a lot smaller than before (before 1.9.2? didn't notice it yesterday), most likely 64% of the normal size :P
16:00.48Maldiviacide: hmm, I see just the opposite
16:01.04EndTitan was changing the scale of everything for me including dropdowns, so yeah, I did notice :P
16:01.09Cidemy dropdown is awfully small now compared to before
16:01.11Cairennincoming to the tampabay.rr addy
16:01.11BeladonaMaldivia, because I run the risk of getting the wrong file somewhere, and screwing up the compares. I have used the interface kit up till now, so I like to use it always to make sure all comapres are the correct files
16:01.22Beladonathanks Cair
16:01.36Cairennit's gone from my end so you should be able to start receiving
16:01.55Maldiviabut no changes in the interface files from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2
16:02.17BeladonaI might reverse engineer the interface kit though and get an exact extraction list
16:02.23Beladonaso I can do it on linux
16:02.47MaldiviaCide: hmm, DropDownList1:GetEffectiveScale()  return 1 for me
16:03.28Cide0.64 for me, maybe I'm doing something weird
16:04.05MaldiviaBeladona: I just do: *.lua, *.xml, *.toc, *.sig, *.xsd from Interface.mpq, patch.mpq and patch-2.mpq
16:04.48Beladonaand that may work fine, but until I can do complete compares of that method and the official extraction method, I can't be sure it is accurate
16:05.13BeladonaI am just anal about things like that
16:05.13Maldiviawell, it's good enough for me... hehe :)
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16:05.56MaldiviaCide: you're setting parent of DropDownList1 somewhere?
16:06.02Cide-my dropdown is parented to another frame, but is DropDownMenu# reparented to that frame?
16:06.07CideI don't think s
16:06.09Cideso*
16:06.22Cidenope
16:06.41Maldiviafrom the xml, the DropDownList# are orphans
16:06.43CideI've also noticed some bugs in the code related to closing the dropdownmenu
16:06.58Cidebut it seems to get fixed after a reload... it's weird
16:07.04pfaultGeneral
16:07.04pfault- Characters should no longer appear to "pop" around terrain.  Movement
16:07.04pfault<PROTECTED>
16:07.06pfaulthaha
16:07.23EndCide: are you using titanbar?
16:07.27MaldiviaCide: hmm, have titan bar installed - I know they like to overwrite some Dropdown code
16:07.37Endif you are, try disabling titan's font scaling
16:07.55Cideum, I am
16:08.02Cidebut it's disabled as of the new patch
16:08.13CideI haven't updated it
16:08.25Endso, titan is disabled now, and you are still getting that?
16:08.26Endfunky
16:08.28Cideya
16:08.36EndI'm not sure then.
16:08.45Endsince that's what was doing it to me
16:08.49Cideafter I enabled it, GetEffectiveScale is 1 :P
16:09.23Cideso maybe it's intended to be scaled, but I just never noticed it?
16:11.33Cidedoesn't really matter
16:12.28Maldiviahmm, do you have 1.9 version of titan ?
16:12.40Maldiviaor the version compatibla with patch 1.9, rather
16:13.06Cideno
16:13.18Cideit's really old
16:14.03Maldiviaok, Titan overwrite the ToggleDropDownMenu function - in 1.9 blizzard added a list:SetScale(uiScale) to their function
16:14.25Endahh
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16:33.14Endhmm
16:33.20Endmod_rewrite is neat-o
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16:42.18BeladonaCairenn: you there?
16:42.33CairennI am physically present, yes
16:42.43Cairennwhether I'm "here" or not, well, that's a different matter entirely
16:42.59Beladonacould you get the version of your wow.exe for me? same as before
16:42.59Cairenn'sup?
16:43.02Eraphine|Discowhere is here ?
16:43.05Cairennk
16:43.06Eraphine|Discoare we ever there?
16:43.33Cairennwe sure aren't when we've had no sleep in .... ummm .... *tries to remember when she slept last*
16:44.58Cairenn1.9.2.4996, Modified  Tuesday Jan 10 9:33
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16:46.20CairennBeladona
16:46.24Beladonathanks
16:46.27Cairennnp
16:48.07CairennBeladona: btw, the date on it makes no sense :p
16:48.18Cairennsince we *know* it was modified today :p
16:48.23Beladonathat is just the date they built the actual exe
16:48.34Cairennah
16:49.08Endyeah
16:49.28EndI think 1.8 was built on a friday :P
16:49.33EndI dunno about 1.9 though
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16:56.26id`hi K
16:57.13Kaeltenello
16:57.19Kaeltenhey id can I ask you to do me a favor?
16:57.34Cairennhi Kaelten
16:57.35Kaeltenif you can sign into wow atm that is
16:57.37Kaeltenhey cair
16:57.52id`Kaelten, surte
16:57.54id`sure*
16:58.58Kaeltensee if GetInventoryItemLink("player", 20) returns the item link to your first bag?
16:59.15id`logging in
16:59.38Kaeltendoing /script ace:print(GetInventoryItemLink("player", 20))
16:59.43Kaeltenshould be a good enough test
17:00.05Eraphine|DiscoKaelten? Any idea when rundown will be implemented in beta?
17:00.18Kaeltenin my next release
17:00.20id`oh great patch
17:00.23id`:P
17:00.26Eraphine|Discosmall one id
17:00.26Kaeltenya its a min patch
17:00.32Kaeltener mini
17:00.40id`bet its the warping fix
17:00.41Eraphine|DiscoBG's was pretty unplayable with it
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17:00.58Eraphine|Discoof course.. mages weren't affected much by it
17:01.07id`hehe
17:01.59Eraphine|Discoi need to remember to bring grenades to AB
17:02.12Eraphine|DiscoThey seem like great flag-interupting devices
17:03.35AnduinLotharbah. they need to stop disabling my 'load out of date addons' flag
17:03.51id`gah how do i print something without ace
17:03.53id`:|
17:03.57AnduinLotharlol
17:04.02id`;P
17:04.04id`(im spoiled)
17:04.12AnduinLothar<PROTECTED>
17:04.23Kaeltenor /scrip message(x)
17:04.26Kaeltener script
17:05.14id`Kaelten, yes it does
17:05.24Kaeltenk.
17:05.53KaeltenI'm guessing that slots 20-23 are always your bags
17:05.58AnduinLotharwhy look. someons actually bought my autions
17:06.36AnduinLotharsometimes it's good to have an all 60 server with sugar daddies to pay for all the best boe items...
17:07.52AnduinLothar:) bought a 5 of Warlords for 5g BO, sold for 14g. gg
17:09.11Maldiviaid: or have the DevTools mod installed, and use /dump [expression] :)
17:09.38AnduinLotharthere's a million shortcuts for print
17:09.54Maldiviaohh yeah
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17:12.26BeladonaI like the way dump outputs
17:12.44AnduinLotharmeh, /eval ftw
17:13.01TainI'm too immature and want to giggle when someone says something like that, Beladona
17:13.13id`lmao Tain
17:14.08AnduinLotharheh, now that thorium is all turned in to the AQ on my server the thorium prices went back down.. back to 4g a stack now
17:14.11TainAt least I admit it. :(
17:14.34TainOh Anduin, thanks for the file last night, saw it auto-got this morning.
17:14.42AnduinLotharnp
17:15.13TainI was thinking about it way more complicated than I had to, of course.  Sometimes the simplest solutions are right there.
17:16.21Tain(Especially when someon eelse already figured them out and I don't bother to look.)
17:16.39AnduinLotharwell, That's my second revision edit. I had just cut it all out back when i had 1.24  but when I upped to 1.09 i realized that they were just stupid and calling the hooks and not the orig functions and then not disabling their hooks, be reloacating to their default spots... which of course doesn't solve any conflicts
17:16.53AnduinLothar2.09*
17:19.38id`eu login is getting hammered
17:19.39id`:|
17:21.03BeladonaI hope they put the rivers of blood quote into the WOW expansion
17:21.20Beladonafunniest quote ever in wc3
17:23.01Maldivia:)
17:23.27MaldiviaBeladona: it isn't there somewhere ?
17:23.36Beladonain wow?
17:23.43Maldiviayeah
17:23.44Beladonanot yet
17:23.52Beladonaits something Kael said
17:23.55Beladonathe Blood mage
17:24.17Beladonathey should have Kael in the expansion
17:24.26Beladonaso hopefully the quote will be as well
17:24.31Beladonaor some form of it
17:24.38Kaeltenwhat'd I say again?
17:24.44Beladonanot you
17:24.48Beladonalol
17:24.59Maldiviahehe
17:25.02BeladonaPrince Kael from wc3, the leader of the Blood Elves
17:25.39MaldiviaBeladona: I figured it might be found in one of all the history books scattered throughout Azeroth
17:26.46Maldiviabut you were probably thinking of a voiceover :)
17:26.51futrtrublwhat's the quote?
17:29.12id`--^
17:30.04BeladonaI can do you one better
17:30.08BeladonaI can upload the wav
17:32.15id`:o
17:32.40Beladonait is what he says when you click on him too many times
17:33.25futrtrublahhhh ;'] please do... crap, sound doesn't work on this comp
17:36.58Beladonahttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/BEQuote.zip
17:37.56CairennROFL
17:38.59AnduinLotharlol
17:39.52Beladonamy favorite quote in the whole game
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17:40.28sharkhathahahahaha
17:40.32BeladonaI wonder if shaman will be a BE class
17:40.42Beladonaif so I am redoing my draka shaman
17:40.43sharkhati like the knights saying 'stop touching me'
17:41.04ElkanoBE?
17:41.09BeladonaBlood Elf
17:41.18Kaeltenno shaman is not a BE class
17:41.20Elkanoah :)
17:41.25Kaeltenor at least it wasn't at Blizzcon
17:41.34Beladonadid they say what were?
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17:41.38sharkhatdo the chars in WoW do that if you keep clicking on them?
17:41.50Elkanowell, from the story it wouldn't fit, I think...
17:41.54Kaeltenin the demo we played you could be a warrior priest mage and hunter I think
17:41.57Elkanomages, warlocks, k, but shamans?
17:42.09Kaeltenmay have been one more maybe warlocks.
17:42.16Beladonathat fits
17:42.34Beladonajust want to be a be shaman
17:42.36Beladona=P
17:42.46Kaeltenhehe
17:42.55Kaeltenya their starting area was pretty cool.
17:42.58AnduinLotharshaman power is nature based isn't it, liek the druid?
17:43.10Beladonawonder if their citadel in the outlands is still intact
17:43.13Kaeltenelemental power actually
17:43.15Beladonain the expansion
17:43.16id`spirit based!
17:43.18id`:P
17:43.18AnduinLotharah, right
17:43.27id`o right elemental
17:43.28id`:P
17:43.37Beladonabe deal mostly in arcane
17:43.41TainSpirits based?  I want a rum powered Shaman!
17:43.45AnduinLotharwhich doesn't technically fit with the old roots of the shaman word, but w/e
17:44.01Kaeltenya the story is they wanted power so they sold their souls to demons.
17:44.05Kaeltenarcane power that is
17:44.14Beladonathey didn't sell their souls
17:44.18AnduinLothari would expect mages to be more elemental
17:44.26Beladonathey use demons to siphon power, after their source of power was destroyed
17:44.42Kaeltentrue, but the demons are corrupting them they just don't see it
17:44.56Beladonamaybe
17:45.04AnduinLotharwhich tend to be the case when you side with demons
17:45.05BeladonaI think it is more their power lust that is corrupting them
17:45.16Kaeltenpossibly.
17:45.23Kaeltenregardless of who or what, they're corrupted
17:45.30Beladonathey used to worship the pwoer of light, just like the high elves
17:45.31TainOh come on, when did insatiable lust for power ever hurt anyone?
17:45.34Beladonabut not anymore
17:45.47AnduinLothartho back in the story line on wc1 they were all just called mages or sorcerors
17:45.53Kaeltenthey where high elves
17:46.00Beladonaright
17:46.28Kaeltenya it was funny to hear them talk about druids
17:46.39AnduinLothareven the old school mediev who screwed with demons and the arcane was a mage
17:46.40Kaeltendruids almost never made it in to wow because of the backstory
17:47.12AnduinLothartho b wow standards he was a warlock with portaling power
17:47.14Beladonathey were a big part of wc3 though
17:47.26Kaeltendruids?
17:47.36Beladonaalthough they kind of merged two character types to make it
17:47.41Beladonayeah
17:47.42Kaeltenya they where in wc3, but they where all night elf males
17:47.47Kaeltenthat was the problem
17:47.57Kaeltenin wc3 only night elf males could be druids
17:48.09Beladonado you count dryads?
17:48.14Kaeltenno
17:48.19Beladonathey had semi-druidic powers
17:48.20AnduinLothardifferent race
17:48.30Beladonalast time I checked druid is a class
17:48.32AnduinLothardryads aren't NE
17:48.35Beladonanot a race
17:48.56Beladonathat is what I meant when I said they merged 2 different character types
17:48.59AnduinLotharu just got to play them because they allied with the NE
17:49.01Kaeltenafter a while they sat down with the lore director and said ok, we want to have druids as a class.  And the lore director changed the story line to fit their needs
17:49.52Beladonashaman wasn't a full class in wc3 either
17:50.04a-stray-catshaman is a hero class, farseer mixed w/ a unit ;p
17:50.19a-stray-cati think thats why they were so powerful at the beginning of the game :)
17:50.35Beladonathe totem idea came from the healing wards and other items you could get, and a few npc classes that were scattered around
17:50.37Kaeltenya they said they pulled a lot of shaman from the lore in wc
17:50.50Kaeltenyep
17:50.58Kaeltenlol they went through some funny iterations of the totem idea
17:51.05Kaeltenfirst you could just put down as many as you wanted.
17:51.16Kaeltenso you'd have a forest of totems everywhere
17:51.25Beladonalol
17:51.27a-stray-catthat musta been laggy :)
17:51.28Kaeltenthen they limited you to one totem, but they said that was boring.
17:51.30BeladonaI like the current implementation
17:51.38Kaeltenso they met half way
17:52.13Beladonapeople consider shamans overpowered, and previously I might have agreed, but after playing one I have to say they do have drawbacks
17:52.22Beladonathe benefits are just really good
17:53.11AnduinLotharpally ftw
17:53.22AnduinLotharpally's are og
17:53.28futrtrublshammies rock for warsong gulch
17:53.52Kaeltenwell I talked to a GM about that, and he said that he saw a one on one fight pally vs shaman that lasted for 45 mins and then both sides just waved and walked away
17:54.12id`;O
17:54.41Kaeltenthe speakers just said that since they get a few thousand requests to nerf shamans and a few thousand to nerf pallies they figure its about equal
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17:56.15TainOne of the funniest things I've ever seen is someone barely by the skin of his teeth beat a Shaman.  He immediately sat down to eat food and was killed by the Shamans's fireball totem.
17:56.27Kaeltenlmao
17:56.40TainI couldn't even play I was laughing so hard.
17:59.59Temoh sweet!
18:00.07TemI just got an email from my bio proff
18:00.24Tem"If you have not, yet, bought your text for biology, there is a limited
18:00.24Temsupply of FREE ones..."
18:00.48TemI went to look at that book... they were like $110
18:01.42Endbleh, textbooks are so expensive :-/
18:02.11BeladonaI think they are pretty balanced
18:02.20BeladonaI have beaten pallies before on my warrior
18:02.30Beladonayou gotta know what you are doing, but it is entirely possible
18:02.54Beladonamore I should say: you gotta know what THEY are doing, so you can counter it
18:05.46Beladonawdn compares for 1.9.2 are live
18:05.53Beladonanothing to compare of course, but hey
18:06.10Tem1.9.2?
18:06.18Temfix the skippy bug?
18:06.33Beladonalets hope
18:06.50Beladonajust wait, 1.9.3 will fx the skippy bug fix
18:07.42Natasemok who broke the forums this time????  ya'll got to stop breakin stuff
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18:09.33Beladonasomeone should post a HOWTO: Read the Manual thread
18:09.33Natasemmmmmm salt water taffy for breakfast
18:09.33Legorolgood evening
18:09.34NatasemRTFM
18:09.49Legoroli have a question about posting ethics on the official forums
18:09.57Natasemok
18:10.09Natasemi am king of ethics, i have been banned many of times
18:10.13LegorolBlizzard Europe's attitude has been that they are very hush hush about which realm is located physically in which data center
18:10.18TainLegorol: If it's not a post about decursive, G15, weapon swapping macros, then you can't post
18:10.32Temoh right that reminds me... I need to finish that greasemonkey script I was working on...
18:10.32Legoroldamn, then i'm unlucky Tain ;-)
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18:11.01TemAuto-kill threads with "g15" "decursive" "weapon swap" in the title
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18:11.16LegorolSo out of curiousity, and prompted by the recent realm rearrangements in Europe, I have compiled a list of all European English realms, when they were launched, for what purpose (fresh/migration), and where are they located
18:11.17TainOh and, "What's this addon" and "Help with DUF"
18:11.30MoonWolfAfternoon people.
18:11.32LegorolAll information purely compiled from official Blizzard news posts on the main page, and blue posts
18:11.46Legoroland publically available information such as whois and traceroute
18:11.54Legorolwith a healthy doze of logical deduction
18:12.01LegorolAnyway, i posted this list on the General forum
18:12.03MoonWolfwere you bored ?
18:12.06LegorolIt seems lke it got deleted
18:12.22LegorolDo you think i should attempt to post it agian, and/or ask why it was deleted?
18:12.25Legorolthat's my dilemma
18:12.53TainPosts asking why my post was deleted never cause any good.
18:13.01Legorolthat is true
18:13.33Legoroli guess i'll just post it on the wiki
18:13.40TainI do also come at it from the point of view that Blizzard can delete anything I post without having to give me an explanation.
18:14.55[MoonWolf]tain, I would assume the same.
18:15.04LegorolTain, that is true
18:15.14LegorolI also understand they are very hush-hush about which realm is in which data center
18:15.17[MoonWolf]It is their forum, they host it they moderate it, you should be hapy there is a forum to begin with
18:15.18Beladonathat is why if you want it to stick around, you powet it in 3 locations, Typically two forums, and your own blog
18:15.19NatasemLeg i would post it in the UI forums
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00:07.25krkahow about this, if cd-burning works fine and dvd-burning does not?
00:07.35Natasemusually when i am "backing up" my movies with my dvd burner i turn on the program to transcode the files onto a disk and walk away and make sure there is nothing running in the back ground
00:08.55Natasemkrka:  what kinda media, burner, burner firmware, program you are trying to use to burn with, and the thing you are trying to burn
00:09.21NatasemO and your OS
00:10.17krkadvd-r media, sony dru-800a burner, firmware KY05, program is mkisofs, trying to burn a copy of futurama dvd s1 disk 1, os = linux
00:11.28krkaoh, and burning cds work perfectly fine... hmm.. k3b even shows the buffer then
00:11.31krkait doesn't for dvds
00:11.53krkaprobably the media then... other media worked fine
00:14.13Natasemfirst try this:
00:14.15Natasemhttp://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/firmware.htm#800
00:15.24Natasemand whats the brand name of the media you are useing
00:15.35krkaRiDisc DVD-R 8X
00:15.48Natasemnever heard of RiDisc
00:17.40krkamight be crap I suppose
00:17.58Natasemlooks like it is your media
00:18.13krkayeah :&
00:18.19krkaglad it's not my burner atleast
00:18.27Natasemmirror branded media like ridisc should be avoid it like the plague.
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00:19.01Natasemi got that out of my media site
00:19.07krkalink?
00:19.30krkabut ritek is good?
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00:21.10Natasemthey say that Mitsubishi (Verbatim) & Taiyo Yuden are the best
00:21.46Natasemhttp://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=112854&highlight=RiDisc
00:22.58Natasemhttp://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146146
00:23.12krkacrap :)
00:25.13Natasemlol
00:25.13krkashould have known, when all my tdk burnt perfectly and all of these failed
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00:26.52Guillotinelol. someone using the online irc client at wowguru
00:27.20zeegmmhmm
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00:29.24Natasemif ya ever try to back up your movies let me know i'l help ya out there too
00:33.10krkaanything i need to keep in mind there?
00:33.12pagefaultworld of lagcraft
00:33.17krkacant I just do a digital copy and burn that?
00:34.01TemAha!
00:34.19TemI've been wondering what the default UI used FontString:SetAlphaGradient for
00:34.37TemThe quest description scroll in thing
00:34.45TemI've had that disabled for so long I forgot it was there
00:38.04zeeganyone here have a windows machine w/ remote desktop server and want to host the wowguru bot for me? :)
00:38.33Guillotinewhy? has your computer conked out zeeg?
00:38.52zeegi got rid of my windows desktop
00:38.56zeegand i dont have the php bot ready yet
00:41.09Natasemkrka no you can't
00:45.32Natasemkrka you get my PM?
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00:52.02Natasemdid Cide or TS post a place to get the CT_Ra beta ?
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01:00.35ForgottenLordsanyone know if the Elemental Invasions happen on a regular schedule or randomly?
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01:12.52GenNMX1/quit
01:14.36OsagasuHey Anduin, you live?
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01:25.49AnduinLotharno
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01:39.15Flisher_CodingBoya
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02:02.52NatasemBona
02:04.24NatasemOK who killed the forums:   Forum Not Ready
02:04.53Guillotinetem of course
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02:11.32Flishereurope got some server down... they probably mailed our forum server to them as a spare
02:14.13Guillotinehaha
02:14.53Flisherserver load balancing mean sending server where they are needed no?
02:14.53Flisherlol
02:15.38Flisheranyone had chance to test RaidAwareness in real action? I was suppose to get news from the curse-gaming guild but theyr server was down today
02:25.09Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2757#1474
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02:27.12Guillotineooooo. tell dolby ty for me :D
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02:27.15Guillotinethat looks awesome!
02:28.14Flisherwhat's that cairenn?
02:28.23Cairennrss feeds
02:28.42CairennGuillotine: tell him yourself, post in the thread I linked. ;)
02:29.12Guillotineoh ya
02:29.15Guillotineforgot I could post...
02:29.19Cairennmeans more coming from the community than from me
02:29.20GuillotineI'm out of it today :/
02:29.36Guillotinejust got bumped up on my medicines >_<
02:31.24Cairennhappy happy joy joy
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02:35.41ToastTheifGenNMX
02:35.45ToastTheifwhat is Onenon?
02:42.01AnduinLotharstill 3 peeps in darn ah..
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02:44.32OsagasuOh Anduin, would it be possible to add a Helm/Cloak show switch to your version of wardrobe? >.>
02:45.06AnduinLotharwhy?
02:45.17AnduinLotharit's in the interface options
02:45.47OsagasuBecause that takes 30 plus seconds... and you can always go through and right click the equipment to equip them, right?
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02:46.05FlisherAnduinlothar": where can we find your wardrobe?
02:46.06AnduinLotharu mean have it showing for certain pieces and not others?
02:46.25OsagasuYea
02:46.26Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4471
02:46.40AnduinLotharinteresting idea
02:47.06AnduinLotharwould prolly have to have some sort of chewckbox for each outsit
02:49.34FlisherAnduinlothar: Suggestion: add a bank/inventory cleaner... I mean, you check the outfit you wanna take, and it empty all other pieces of equipment except trinket into the bank, or take the pieces required in the bank too
02:50.22AnduinLotharinteresting idea
02:51.22AnduinLotharbut i gtg
02:51.44Cairennlater AnduinLothar
02:53.50Osagasubyw
02:53.52Osagasubye
02:53.59Corrodiasso here's my question
02:54.14Corrodiasi heard there is some profession bug around level 225. what's up with that? i haven't gotten someone to tell me, yet.
02:54.32Flishergoing to bed, cya!
02:54.37Cairennnight Flisher
02:54.40Corrodiasni
02:56.05Corrodiasfound it, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-professions&t=40
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02:59.41Corrodiasapparently it only affects secondary professions
03:00.34OsagasuI'll tell you when my fishing gets to 225.
03:00.44Osagasuor even sooner, my first aid
03:01.25Corrodias"# Several users have completed the quest and had level changed to Artisan, but skill is maxed at 225, not 300. Bug was discovered in mid December. Last update from GM was "Unfortunately, as of yet we have no resolution for this issue." (1/25) or "Unfortunately at this time our staff is still looking into what is causing the issue. We have no way of resetting secondary professions at this time. We apologize for the inconvenience." (2/2)
03:01.25Corrodias# To prevent bug, make sure to skill up to 226 before leaving the zone. This means you should have all the stuff you need to make at least one skill up with you, when you complete the quest. "
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03:01.51IrielThat's been around as a reported issue for MONTHS
03:02.08Cairennthat has been around ... god, since CB I think?
03:02.15Cairennit's not like it's anything new, that's for sure
03:02.17Irielgiven the dates on that post, almost a year
03:02.27Corrodiaspossibly, but WoW keeps getting new users who don't know about it
03:02.29Iriel(2 weeks shy of a year)
03:02.30Corrodiasi just joined under two months ago
03:02.42Irieldoes the bug still exist tho?
03:02.52Corrodiasi think i heard someone complaining about it in-game just recently
03:03.42Fanookthere was a skillup bug in the 1.9 patch, but i'm pretty sure it's not that one
03:04.05Corrodiasoh? could you please explain or link to an explanation of that one?
03:04.30IrielThat one was 'you dont skill up as fast as you should'
03:08.28IrielSo, I'm trying to balance infinite customization with my sanity for StatRings, and i'm trying to think of different ways of laying out the mana and health rings for a single unit.
03:09.13IrielSo far I have: Concentric (one inside the other), Split Ring (Half one bar, half the other), and Side-by-Side (Adjacent whole rings)
03:09.27IrielAre there any sane alternatives anyone can think of
03:12.56Corrodiashuge opaque bars that block your vision
03:13.20IrielThat sounds like a scaling/alpha setting 8-)
03:15.38MentalPowerIriel could I ask for centered party rings for when you have less than a full party?
03:16.01IrielThat's on my list, I actually was doodling pictures of that during a meeting today 8-)
03:16.12MentalPowerYay!
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03:39.22Guillotinehello WOWGURU-7634
03:39.32Guillotinelol
03:39.50Guillotineyou want to give us a real nick to call you? type /nick *name*
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03:46.00EsamynnEvening all
03:46.04Cairennhi Esamynn
03:47.08Esamynngot an XML question if anyone is game, Is the only way to assign text to a FontString from a Lua variable via the :SetText method?
03:47.19IrielYes
03:47.21Esamynnor can you do it directly in the XML?
03:47.32IrielYou can't set a dynamic value in the XML
03:47.39Esamynnok, thought so, thanks
03:47.44IrielI believe XML values get resolved via TEXT(VALUE) at startup
03:47.57zeeg!item benediction
03:48.00zeeghrm
03:48.01Irielso if they're present in the globalstrings they can appear
03:48.03zeeg!item zeeg
03:48.06zeeg!item adfjapoiejrpoiqjweoijqwer
03:48.31IrielI just dont know WHEN that happens in the load sequence
03:48.36zeegwtf
03:48.37zeegoh
03:48.38zeegwrong chan
03:48.39zeegmy bad
03:48.40zeegsorry
03:50.03MentalPowerwhat's the channel fo rqueries then?
03:54.38Guil|Laundrythe WoWguru channel
03:56.22zeegits not on this network
03:56.27zeegi could put it somewhere on here if there's another wow chan
03:56.37zeegwell the old bot is down, because its on my old machine which i cant access atm
03:56.40zeegso im making a temporary new one
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03:56.59Esamynnoh, is that what TEXT does, interesting
03:58.08Esamynni'm just setting up localization strings and I wanted to know if I had to use SetText was all
03:59.57IrielIf you do them as globals I dont believe you have to
04:00.10zeegoo
04:00.13zeegruning wow at 1680x1050
04:00.42Irielwidescreen laptop?
04:00.51zeegya
04:01.13IrielI love wow in widescreen, I used to run it that way even before I had a WS monitor
04:04.41Esamynnyou mean as long as they are globals I can use TEST(<variable name>) in the XML instead of "<text>" ?
04:04.41EsamynnTEXT*
04:04.49IrielNo, I think you do text="GLOBALVARIABLENAME"
04:05.01Esamynnoh ok, i'll try that
04:05.04Irieland the game uses TEXT(GLOBALVARIABLENAME) when assigning the initial value
04:05.17Esamynnahh ok
04:05.20Irielor is that TEXT("GLOBALVARIABLENAME") I forget
04:05.23Irieleither way
04:05.26Irieljust try it 8-)
04:06.07Esamynnyes that does work
04:06.21Esamynn<FontString name="$parentTitleText" inherits="GameFontNormal" text="GROUPHEALCONFIG_FRAMETITLE">
04:09.00Irielyay
04:11.08Esamynnnow, if I can just track down the officer notes problem :(
04:11.51IrielFrom my experience, it seemed to happen around the time someone new from the guild logged in
04:11.57Irielbut that couldhave been coincidence
04:12.25Esamynni've been comparing notes with a few ppl in the thread to see if there is a common set of circumstances
04:13.13EsamynnThe problem didn't start for us until I started using the officer notes for data tags, at which point we went from using almost none of them to almost all of them
04:13.37IrielI use ours to track whose alts are whose
04:13.46Irielso I only manually update, and not very often
04:14.29Esamynnthe tags are only undated by hand, the mod only reads from them
04:17.34Esamynnsigh, UI forums are always nice and civil until post-patch, then we always get the wierdos :(
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04:31.24Cairennjust the usual run of "omg, theyres notin on my comp y u ban me!" bullshit
04:45.59CodayusCairenn: You think any of those are legit?
04:46.06Cairennbullshit
04:46.21Temthey are all bullshit and it annoys the crap out of me
04:46.42Temthis is why I wish there was a filter to keep the "normies" out of of forum
04:47.18Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=299822
04:48.03CairennThere, does that sum it up well enough?
04:50.02Temthere would be no more "is decursive banned yet?" "support the g15!" "ZOMG I GOT BANNED FOR CT_MOD!" "I made an agro meter mod but I'm not sharing it" threads
04:52.13TainCan anyone help me with a weapon swapping macro?
04:52.16Tain:)
04:53.13Tain:D
04:57.54Cairennso no one gonna comment on my thread? or is everyone scared of me atm? :p
04:58.10TainOh
04:58.16TainI didn't look back that far
05:06.51MentalPowerWhat thread?
05:07.20TainThe one she linked in the channel.
05:08.03Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=299822
05:09.21zeeggah damn mac
05:10.21zeegAnduinLothar
05:10.25zeeghow do you format a drive?
05:10.25zeegerr
05:10.29zeegby format i mean change stuff
05:11.11MentalPowerCairenn: nice :)
05:11.23zeegi dont get why no files show on the mac :(
05:11.30Cairennnot really, I was being rather cranky in it :p
05:11.55Cairennbut thanks anyway ;)
05:14.11Cairenn(at least when I'm being a cranky bitch, I still do try to offer some actual helpful suggestions)
05:15.10MentalPowernow all we need is a sticky
05:15.26zeegwewt!
05:15.28zeegfinally got sharing working
05:15.58Maldiviahehe
05:16.14zeegnow to just figur eout how to share the drive which says it has no files
05:21.21zeegwewt
05:21.22zeeggot it to share
05:21.27zeegtoo pad this pc says its emptyh too
05:21.28zeeglol
05:28.31AnduinLothari would say your drive has issues, but i dont have much experience with NTSF on mac
05:29.20AnduinLotharformatting a drive is done through the Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility
05:37.39zeeghrm
05:37.43zeegim gonna try reinstalling osx
05:37.47zeegthe drive worked fine
05:37.49zeegand there's 3 drives
05:37.51zeegall doing the same thing
05:38.59AnduinLotharif you can the data ll backed up on another drive you're much better off reformatting to the mac os x journaled default
05:39.09zeegits not backed up tho
05:39.13zeeg:(
05:39.21zeegmy external enclosure wont be here til monday so
05:39.27AnduinLothardo you have another drive with space for the data?
05:39.29zeeghoping to be able to access all this junk before monday
05:39.36zeegnot enough space
05:39.39zeegthere's like 400gb of stuff
05:40.01zeegbut it should be able to read the drive
05:40.04zeegit calcs the space/etc right
05:40.07zeegjust not showing files
05:40.11zeegand i wanna reinstall anyways
05:40.17zeegso im hoping 2 birds with one stone
05:42.42zeegso what exactly makes a mac a mac?
05:42.43Corrodiasgrrr
05:42.48zeegis it a special mobo?
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05:43.33Corrodiasi want to sell this silk (or silk bandages) to alliance players at ~60s each but the deposit price in gadgetzan will ruin me if it doesn't sell
05:44.43Guil|Migraineare we supposed to be able to help that?
05:44.52Guil|Migraineor was it just info?
05:45.10Corrodiasnah.. unless you play on ET
05:45.54Guil|Migrainenope. we still couldn't help you though
05:46.00Corrodiascomplaining and trolling for a possible solution
05:46.20AnduinLotharyes, macs have custom built motherboards and chips used almost exclusively in macs as well as custom built case, system archetecture, bios depending on version, and operating system
05:48.10zeeghrm
05:48.17zeegso how do i upgrade them
05:48.18zeeg:p
05:48.25AnduinLotharnow a days they use fairly standard component parts, but the above is still true. however for your old machine you aren't likely to find many pc standards
05:48.36zeeghrm
05:48.57AnduinLotharyou have a 10 year old G3 PowerMac. It's gonna be nearly impossible
05:49.31TainYeah so I was bored and didn't feel like playing anything.  I rewrote Titan Panel to have all of its "internal" plugins external and able to be placed wherever you want instead of only in the corner.
05:50.26Cairennand you have it posted ... where?
05:50.41AnduinLotharyou can max out the ram, upgrade the harddrives (given the right conenctions) and buy upgrade kits that one or two companies might still sell such as sonnex and something else. but for the most part... it's old and nearly worthless except to use in it's current state as a file server
05:50.44TainWell nowhere.  I was just testing it. :)
05:51.08Cairennwell, when you get it all tested and have it all nicely cleaned up and stuff, release it :p
05:51.21TainPlus I still need to come up with a name for it.  LIke, "Titan Panel - The Non-Sucky Version"
05:52.12CorrodiasTitan Panel XL
05:52.14CorrodiasXtreme
05:52.18Corrodias6000
05:52.24CorrodiasSpecial Edition
05:53.38AnduinLotharTitan Revised
05:53.50AnduinLotharwhat'd u do to it?
05:56.39AnduinLothari'm really very confused as to why Wardrobe is so popular
05:59.47zeeggrawr
05:59.49TainA lot of closet transvestites?
05:59.51zeeghey guys
05:59.52zeegquestion
06:00.28zeegon an items page, woiuld a table listed towareds the bottom of "similar items" which would say for example, show any "One-Hand Sword" (if thats the wep you're looking at) thats within 3 levels either way of the level of the weapon you're looking at?
06:07.06Guil|MigraineAnduin: I could not live without wardrobe
06:07.15Guil|Migraineas a druid, I have 3 16 slot bags full of armor
06:08.05AnduinLotharya i have 2 bags full that i use regularly
06:08.45zeegthis last 4 minutes of installation is taking like 30 minutes
06:08.50AnduinLotharzeeg you whine a lot. you know that?
06:08.54zeegyep
06:09.05zeegMAKE IT WORK
06:09.27AnduinLotharyour expectations are too high. it's a damn 10 year old computer. be glad it runs a modern OS
06:10.02pagefaultanyone know of a good music sync utility to a portable player
06:10.11zeegi just want it to network my drives
06:10.12zeeg:P
06:10.15zeegpagefault, itunesA?
06:10.17zeeg-A
06:10.24pagefaultI don't have an ipod
06:10.28pagefaultnot sure it supports it
06:10.43zeegoh probably dont, no idea then
06:11.20pagefaulthmm
06:11.23pagefaultI can just copy it
06:12.33Guil|MigraineHOLY COW. just watched http://www.the-hotness.com/wow/brd2man.wmv . Its a full 2-man BRD run. they kill the emperor and everything
06:12.38Guil|Migrainestupid thunderfury
06:13.58zeegreally?
06:14.02zeegthats crazy
06:14.45Guil|Migraineya
06:14.49zeeghttp://wow.mmotheatre.com/2155/2man-brd.html
06:14.49zeegthere
06:14.50zeeg:p
06:14.51pagefaultI guess I get to use WMP
06:14.55EndI know a guy who used to two man BRD
06:15.18Guil|Migrainethey killed emp too?
06:15.19EndI never saw him do it though, so I'm just taking his word for it
06:15.23Enddunno...
06:15.28EndI didn't ask
06:15.39Endhe had it all planned out to five man all of ubrs too
06:15.55Guil|Migraineg2g guys
06:15.57Guil|Migrainettyl
06:16.31zeegconsidering they 10-manned onyxia.. i wouldnt doubt it
06:16.47Endyeah
06:18.48TainDamn.  Fixing the window moving stuff is going to take longer.  Maybe tomorrow.
06:20.42AnduinLothartain i can send u my hacked version
06:21.03AnduinLothari made it so when you disable the option is actually disables the hooks
06:28.59Cairennnight all
06:29.04futrtrublpagefault, musicmatch will probably support your player
06:29.09futrtrublnight cair
06:29.45pagefaultthey work in linux
06:29.50pagefault?
06:30.04futrtrublahhh,, ummmm, check their website
06:30.28futrtrublwinamp should may have a module, oh WINamp...
06:30.49pagefaultI want something to update my songs on linux
06:30.49pagefaulthehe
06:31.06CorrodiasCEEEEE-LE-BRATE GOOD TIMES, COME ON!
06:31.15futrtrublwell, that's your problem right there ;']
06:32.38futrtrublcorrodias, I'm going to put NoXPBar up at beb.edowner.net/noxpbar.html, and I'm going to put a forum up for it at forums.edowner.net, if you create an account there I'll give you mod priveledges
06:37.24Endnooooooooooo
06:37.42futrtrublanakin type no?
06:37.43Endhttp://wowmapview.sourceforge.net/ gives forbidden error message
06:41.54pagefaultI forgot to pay my cell bill
06:42.01pagefaultor top it up
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06:45.08pagefaultI look forward to see CSI
06:45.27pagefaultmt
06:46.15futrtrublI love CSI
06:46.44Endwtf
06:46.49Endendx7@sc8-pr-shell1(/home/users/e/en/endx7) % ls -ldh /home/groups/w/wo/wowmapview/
06:46.52Endd---------  5 root root 4.0K Mar 28  2005 /home/groups/w/wo/wowmapview/
07:00.50Corrodiaswiwnaov==
07:00.53Corrodias... wowmapview?
07:01.23futrtrublCorrodias: say my meeage further up?
07:01.35futrtrublmessage*
07:01.43Corrodiasnow i do
07:01.59Corrodiasdon't know if it's worth any trouble like that
07:02.17Corrodiasit's not like it's going to need much for maintenance or new features
07:02.23futrtrublnp, though registering is free ;']
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11:05.15Corrodiasthey snuck in an update!
11:07.10Corrodiasand they automatically unchecked "load out of date addons" again
11:07.17Corrodiasthat's starting to annoy me
11:20.53Depheriosyes
11:21.00Depheriosthat really annoyed me as well
11:23.22Corrodiassourceforge appears to be taking a dump
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14:45.37Beladonagoord lord, I though it would never connect
14:46.05*** topic/#WoWI-lounge by Beladona -> Happy Birthday to Cair!
14:46.41Cairennheh, thanks
14:46.50Cairennyou're a day late, but appreciate the thought ;)
14:47.10Beladonagrrr
14:47.17Cairennnow change it back before anyone notices :p
14:47.29Beladonawhy would I do a thing like that?
14:47.31Beladonahaha
14:47.38*** topic/#WoWI-lounge by Cairenn -> Happy Coding
14:48.02Beladonawell
14:48.10BeladonaHappy Birthday anyway
14:48.12Cairenn:)
14:48.20Cairennthanks sweetie :)
14:48.33Beladonawish I had caught you yesterday
14:48.46Beladonaunfortuantely I can barely catch myself this week
14:48.50Cairennhehehe, I was just as glad you didn't
14:49.45Cidehappy birthday Cairenn :)
14:49.52Beladonathe week isn't over yet, and I think I am already at something like 50 hours
14:50.03Cairennthanks Cide
14:50.44CairennBeladona: ewww
14:50.55Beladonayeah
14:51.33Beladonaone night I went home at 5pm, went back to work at 7pm, left again at 3am, and went back at 6:30am
14:51.33CairennCide, you guys see the message(s) from Dolby in the FA forum?
14:51.41Cideyeah, I talked to him
14:51.51Cairennk
14:52.23Cairennhe hasn't slept yet, even though there wasn't a damn thing he could do until the data center slotted in a new hd
14:52.31Cairennstubborn male :p
14:52.46Cideyeah, I heard that.. he's always there when we need him, I thanked him for it once again :)
14:53.09Cidehaha, stubbornness isn't always bad!
14:57.43Beladonastubborness can be a virtue
14:57.49Beladonaespecially in the workplace
14:58.03Beladonaprovided you are stubborn about the right things
14:58.43BeladonaI got fired from one place due to my stubborness. But they ended up apologizing because I was right
14:59.58Cidedid you get the job back? (assuming you wanted it back)
15:00.13ElkanoO-tanjôbi omedetô gozaimasu Cairenn :)
15:00.43Cairennerrr
15:00.58CairennI'll hope that was something nice and just say thank you
15:00.58Elkano(Happy Birthday)
15:01.46Cairennthanks Elkano :)
15:04.26Elkano:)
15:05.08Elkanobtw: are there any known problems with JoinChannelByName() or GetChannelName() ?
15:05.18Beladonasorry I was afk
15:05.23Beladonano I didn't get the job back
15:05.25BeladonaI didn't want it
15:05.34Beladonabecause I got the job I am currently at
15:05.44Beladonamore pay, and I was in charge
15:06.11Beladonaso they sorta did me a favor
15:16.50Kalrothnice :)
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15:48.41Cairennoh Cide, will you *please* do me a favour?
15:48.51Cideof course
15:48.53Cidewhat is it?
15:48.58Cairennbefore I go RIGHT off on someone ....
15:49.06Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=300038&s=new&tmp=1#new
15:49.21Cidehaha, update
15:49.26Cairennjust did
15:49.27Cairennthank you
15:49.30Cideno problem :)
15:49.56Cairennand btw, toss the latest version up on WoWI
15:50.04Cairenndon't blow your guild's bandwidth
15:50.10Cairennthat's why we are here :)
15:50.22Cideoh, good point :)
15:50.30Cidetoo used to using FTP I guess
15:51.10Cairennjust don't want you to have to blow your guild's bandwidth when you've got all the space you want on our site :)
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15:52.30Maldiviahmm... the changes listed in Iriels thread for 1.9.2 fixes, are they in todays patchs, or postponed for 1.9.3 ?
15:52.52Endprobably postponed
15:53.13Beladonathere is a patch today?
15:53.24Endyeah, a really dinky one
15:53.30Maldivia1.9.2 - to fix the stutter movements
15:53.37Beladonamm
15:53.42Beladonagogogadget wdn
15:53.52Beladonaservers down or can we grab it now?
15:53.53Endit was midnight actually
15:53.58Endservers should be up
15:53.59Cairennsnag away
15:54.38CairennI've already got it
15:54.38Beladonacool
15:54.38Maldiviabut as far as I could tell, the only files that were updated were the exe files
15:54.38Beladonaright
15:54.38CairennCairenn: "General
15:54.38CairennCairenn: - Characters should no longer appear to "pop" around terrain.  Movement
15:54.38CairennCairenn:   should be smoother once again."
15:54.38CairennCairenn: that's the sum total of the notes
15:54.38Beladonabut for completelness I have to put it up
15:54.39Cairenn*nod*
15:54.39Endservers weren't even restarted...in fact, it didn't even boot you.  I got off 10 minutes until after the patch was "out", reconnected, and -then- it made me get it
15:54.39Maldiviayep - UnitBuff with filter not fixed :)
15:54.40Ender
15:54.45End10 minutes -after-, not until
15:54.47Ender
15:54.49Cairennbut, forums went down
15:54.53EndYou know what I mean
15:55.05EndI need to learn2proofreadbeforehittingenter
15:56.05Cairennbut that takes all the fun out of trying to guess wth you are trying to say, End!
15:56.07Cairenn;)
15:57.07Endlol
15:57.07Maldiviabtw - have you noticed the bad alphachannel on the new bag textures?
15:57.31Beladonaok taht sucks
15:58.08Beladonamy ip on my home machine changed, so my router isn't sending RDP traffic to the right ip. Anyone want to extract the interface files for me?
15:58.30Cairenn2 sec Bela
15:58.39EndI was just about to say wdn!, but then I realized what you were wanting to extract them for
15:58.54Beladonahaha
15:59.24BeladonaI wish I could get the interface kit to run under cedega / wine
15:59.33Cairennwhich one(s) do you want?
15:59.42Maldiviawhy not just use a commandline mpw-extractor then ?
15:59.58Beladonainterface/Addons, and Interface/FrameXML
16:00.01Cideanyone noticed that dropdowns are affected by UI scale now? seems a lot smaller than before (before 1.9.2? didn't notice it yesterday), most likely 64% of the normal size :P
16:00.48Maldiviacide: hmm, I see just the opposite
16:01.04EndTitan was changing the scale of everything for me including dropdowns, so yeah, I did notice :P
16:01.09Cidemy dropdown is awfully small now compared to before
16:01.11Cairennincoming to the tampabay.rr addy
16:01.11BeladonaMaldivia, because I run the risk of getting the wrong file somewhere, and screwing up the compares. I have used the interface kit up till now, so I like to use it always to make sure all comapres are the correct files
16:01.22Beladonathanks Cair
16:01.36Cairennit's gone from my end so you should be able to start receiving
16:01.55Maldiviabut no changes in the interface files from 1.9.1 to 1.9.2
16:02.17BeladonaI might reverse engineer the interface kit though and get an exact extraction list
16:02.23Beladonaso I can do it on linux
16:02.47MaldiviaCide: hmm, DropDownList1:GetEffectiveScale()  return 1 for me
16:03.28Cide0.64 for me, maybe I'm doing something weird
16:04.05MaldiviaBeladona: I just do: *.lua, *.xml, *.toc, *.sig, *.xsd from Interface.mpq, patch.mpq and patch-2.mpq
16:04.48Beladonaand that may work fine, but until I can do complete compares of that method and the official extraction method, I can't be sure it is accurate
16:05.13BeladonaI am just anal about things like that
16:05.13Maldiviawell, it's good enough for me... hehe :)
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16:05.56MaldiviaCide: you're setting parent of DropDownList1 somewhere?
16:06.02Cide-my dropdown is parented to another frame, but is DropDownMenu# reparented to that frame?
16:06.07CideI don't think s
16:06.09Cideso*
16:06.22Cidenope
16:06.41Maldiviafrom the xml, the DropDownList# are orphans
16:06.43CideI've also noticed some bugs in the code related to closing the dropdownmenu
16:06.58Cidebut it seems to get fixed after a reload... it's weird
16:07.04pfaultGeneral
16:07.04pfault- Characters should no longer appear to "pop" around terrain.  Movement
16:07.04pfault<PROTECTED>
16:07.06pfaulthaha
16:07.23EndCide: are you using titanbar?
16:07.27MaldiviaCide: hmm, have titan bar installed - I know they like to overwrite some Dropdown code
16:07.37Endif you are, try disabling titan's font scaling
16:07.55Cideum, I am
16:08.02Cidebut it's disabled as of the new patch
16:08.13CideI haven't updated it
16:08.25Endso, titan is disabled now, and you are still getting that?
16:08.26Endfunky
16:08.28Cideya
16:08.36EndI'm not sure then.
16:08.45Endsince that's what was doing it to me
16:08.49Cideafter I enabled it, GetEffectiveScale is 1 :P
16:09.23Cideso maybe it's intended to be scaled, but I just never noticed it?
16:11.33Cidedoesn't really matter
16:12.28Maldiviahmm, do you have 1.9 version of titan ?
16:12.40Maldiviaor the version compatibla with patch 1.9, rather
16:13.06Cideno
16:13.18Cideit's really old
16:14.03Maldiviaok, Titan overwrite the ToggleDropDownMenu function - in 1.9 blizzard added a list:SetScale(uiScale) to their function
16:14.25Endahh
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16:33.14Endhmm
16:33.20Endmod_rewrite is neat-o
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16:42.18BeladonaCairenn: you there?
16:42.33CairennI am physically present, yes
16:42.43Cairennwhether I'm "here" or not, well, that's a different matter entirely
16:42.59Beladonacould you get the version of your wow.exe for me? same as before
16:42.59Cairenn'sup?
16:43.02Eraphine|Discowhere is here ?
16:43.05Cairennk
16:43.06Eraphine|Discoare we ever there?
16:43.33Cairennwe sure aren't when we've had no sleep in .... ummm .... *tries to remember when she slept last*
16:44.58Cairenn1.9.2.4996, Modified  Tuesday Jan 10 9:33
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16:46.20CairennBeladona
16:46.24Beladonathanks
16:46.27Cairennnp
16:48.07CairennBeladona: btw, the date on it makes no sense :p
16:48.18Cairennsince we *know* it was modified today :p
16:48.23Beladonathat is just the date they built the actual exe
16:48.34Cairennah
16:49.08Endyeah
16:49.28EndI think 1.8 was built on a friday :P
16:49.33EndI dunno about 1.9 though
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16:56.26id`hi K
16:57.13Kaeltenello
16:57.19Kaeltenhey id can I ask you to do me a favor?
16:57.34Cairennhi Kaelten
16:57.35Kaeltenif you can sign into wow atm that is
16:57.37Kaeltenhey cair
16:57.52id`Kaelten, surte
16:57.54id`sure*
16:58.58Kaeltensee if GetInventoryItemLink("player", 20) returns the item link to your first bag?
16:59.15id`logging in
16:59.38Kaeltendoing /script ace:print(GetInventoryItemLink("player", 20))
16:59.43Kaeltenshould be a good enough test
17:00.05Eraphine|DiscoKaelten? Any idea when rundown will be implemented in beta?
17:00.18Kaeltenin my next release
17:00.20id`oh great patch
17:00.23id`:P
17:00.26Eraphine|Discosmall one id
17:00.26Kaeltenya its a min patch
17:00.32Kaeltener mini
17:00.40id`bet its the warping fix
17:00.41Eraphine|DiscoBG's was pretty unplayable with it
17:00.41*** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ
17:00.58Eraphine|Discoof course.. mages weren't affected much by it
17:01.07id`hehe
17:01.59Eraphine|Discoi need to remember to bring grenades to AB
17:02.12Eraphine|DiscoThey seem like great flag-interupting devices
17:03.35AnduinLotharbah. they need to stop disabling my 'load out of date addons' flag
17:03.51id`gah how do i print something without ace
17:03.53id`:|
17:03.57AnduinLotharlol
17:04.02id`;P
17:04.04id`(im spoiled)
17:04.12AnduinLothar<PROTECTED>
17:04.23Kaeltenor /scrip message(x)
17:04.26Kaeltener script
17:05.14id`Kaelten, yes it does
17:05.24Kaeltenk.
17:05.53KaeltenI'm guessing that slots 20-23 are always your bags
17:05.58AnduinLotharwhy look. someons actually bought my autions
17:06.36AnduinLotharsometimes it's good to have an all 60 server with sugar daddies to pay for all the best boe items...
17:07.52AnduinLothar:) bought a 5 of Warlords for 5g BO, sold for 14g. gg
17:09.11Maldiviaid: or have the DevTools mod installed, and use /dump [expression] :)
17:09.38AnduinLotharthere's a million shortcuts for print
17:09.54Maldiviaohh yeah
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17:12.26BeladonaI like the way dump outputs
17:12.44AnduinLotharmeh, /eval ftw
17:13.01TainI'm too immature and want to giggle when someone says something like that, Beladona
17:13.13id`lmao Tain
17:14.08AnduinLotharheh, now that thorium is all turned in to the AQ on my server the thorium prices went back down.. back to 4g a stack now
17:14.11TainAt least I admit it. :(
17:14.34TainOh Anduin, thanks for the file last night, saw it auto-got this morning.
17:14.42AnduinLotharnp
17:15.13TainI was thinking about it way more complicated than I had to, of course.  Sometimes the simplest solutions are right there.
17:16.21Tain(Especially when someon eelse already figured them out and I don't bother to look.)
17:16.39AnduinLotharwell, That's my second revision edit. I had just cut it all out back when i had 1.24  but when I upped to 1.09 i realized that they were just stupid and calling the hooks and not the orig functions and then not disabling their hooks, be reloacating to their default spots... which of course doesn't solve any conflicts
17:16.53AnduinLothar2.09*
17:19.38id`eu login is getting hammered
17:19.39id`:|
17:21.03BeladonaI hope they put the rivers of blood quote into the WOW expansion
17:21.20Beladonafunniest quote ever in wc3
17:23.01Maldivia:)
17:23.27MaldiviaBeladona: it isn't there somewhere ?
17:23.36Beladonain wow?
17:23.43Maldiviayeah
17:23.44Beladonanot yet
17:23.52Beladonaits something Kael said
17:23.55Beladonathe Blood mage
17:24.17Beladonathey should have Kael in the expansion
17:24.26Beladonaso hopefully the quote will be as well
17:24.31Beladonaor some form of it
17:24.38Kaeltenwhat'd I say again?
17:24.44Beladonanot you
17:24.48Beladonalol
17:24.59Maldiviahehe
17:25.02BeladonaPrince Kael from wc3, the leader of the Blood Elves
17:25.39MaldiviaBeladona: I figured it might be found in one of all the history books scattered throughout Azeroth
17:26.46Maldiviabut you were probably thinking of a voiceover :)
17:26.51futrtrublwhat's the quote?
17:29.12id`--^
17:30.04BeladonaI can do you one better
17:30.08BeladonaI can upload the wav
17:32.15id`:o
17:32.40Beladonait is what he says when you click on him too many times
17:33.25futrtrublahhhh ;'] please do... crap, sound doesn't work on this comp
17:36.58Beladonahttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/BEQuote.zip
17:37.56CairennROFL
17:38.59AnduinLotharlol
17:39.52Beladonamy favorite quote in the whole game
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17:40.27sharkhat<PROTECTED>
17:40.28sharkhathahahahaha
17:40.32BeladonaI wonder if shaman will be a BE class
17:40.42Beladonaif so I am redoing my draka shaman
17:40.43sharkhati like the knights saying 'stop touching me'
17:41.04ElkanoBE?
17:41.09BeladonaBlood Elf
17:41.18Kaeltenno shaman is not a BE class
17:41.20Elkanoah :)
17:41.25Kaeltenor at least it wasn't at Blizzcon
17:41.34Beladonadid they say what were?
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17:41.38sharkhatdo the chars in WoW do that if you keep clicking on them?
17:41.50Elkanowell, from the story it wouldn't fit, I think...
17:41.54Kaeltenin the demo we played you could be a warrior priest mage and hunter I think
17:41.57Elkanomages, warlocks, k, but shamans?
17:42.09Kaeltenmay have been one more maybe warlocks.
17:42.16Beladonathat fits
17:42.34Beladonajust want to be a be shaman
17:42.36Beladona=P
17:42.46Kaeltenhehe
17:42.55Kaeltenya their starting area was pretty cool.
17:42.58AnduinLotharshaman power is nature based isn't it, liek the druid?
17:43.10Beladonawonder if their citadel in the outlands is still intact
17:43.13Kaeltenelemental power actually
17:43.15Beladonain the expansion
17:43.16id`spirit based!
17:43.18id`:P
17:43.18AnduinLotharah, right
17:43.27id`o right elemental
17:43.28id`:P
17:43.37Beladonabe deal mostly in arcane
17:43.41TainSpirits based?  I want a rum powered Shaman!
17:43.45AnduinLotharwhich doesn't technically fit with the old roots of the shaman word, but w/e
17:44.01Kaeltenya the story is they wanted power so they sold their souls to demons.
17:44.05Kaeltenarcane power that is
17:44.14Beladonathey didn't sell their souls
17:44.18AnduinLothari would expect mages to be more elemental
17:44.26Beladonathey use demons to siphon power, after their source of power was destroyed
17:44.42Kaeltentrue, but the demons are corrupting them they just don't see it
17:44.56Beladonamaybe
17:45.04AnduinLotharwhich tend to be the case when you side with demons
17:45.05BeladonaI think it is more their power lust that is corrupting them
17:45.16Kaeltenpossibly.
17:45.23Kaeltenregardless of who or what, they're corrupted
17:45.30Beladonathey used to worship the pwoer of light, just like the high elves
17:45.31TainOh come on, when did insatiable lust for power ever hurt anyone?
17:45.34Beladonabut not anymore
17:45.47AnduinLothartho back in the story line on wc1 they were all just called mages or sorcerors
17:45.53Kaeltenthey where high elves
17:46.00Beladonaright
17:46.28Kaeltenya it was funny to hear them talk about druids
17:46.39AnduinLothareven the old school mediev who screwed with demons and the arcane was a mage
17:46.40Kaeltendruids almost never made it in to wow because of the backstory
17:47.12AnduinLothartho b wow standards he was a warlock with portaling power
17:47.14Beladonathey were a big part of wc3 though
17:47.26Kaeltendruids?
17:47.36Beladonaalthough they kind of merged two character types to make it
17:47.41Beladonayeah
17:47.42Kaeltenya they where in wc3, but they where all night elf males
17:47.47Kaeltenthat was the problem
17:47.57Kaeltenin wc3 only night elf males could be druids
17:48.09Beladonado you count dryads?
17:48.14Kaeltenno
17:48.19Beladonathey had semi-druidic powers
17:48.20AnduinLothardifferent race
17:48.30Beladonalast time I checked druid is a class
17:48.32AnduinLothardryads aren't NE
17:48.35Beladonanot a race
17:48.56Beladonathat is what I meant when I said they merged 2 different character types
17:48.59AnduinLotharu just got to play them because they allied with the NE
17:49.01Kaeltenafter a while they sat down with the lore director and said ok, we want to have druids as a class.  And the lore director changed the story line to fit their needs
17:49.52Beladonashaman wasn't a full class in wc3 either
17:50.04a-stray-catshaman is a hero class, farseer mixed w/ a unit ;p
17:50.19a-stray-cati think thats why they were so powerful at the beginning of the game :)
17:50.35Beladonathe totem idea came from the healing wards and other items you could get, and a few npc classes that were scattered around
17:50.37Kaeltenya they said they pulled a lot of shaman from the lore in wc
17:50.50Kaeltenyep
17:50.58Kaeltenlol they went through some funny iterations of the totem idea
17:51.05Kaeltenfirst you could just put down as many as you wanted.
17:51.16Kaeltenso you'd have a forest of totems everywhere
17:51.25Beladonalol
17:51.27a-stray-catthat musta been laggy :)
17:51.28Kaeltenthen they limited you to one totem, but they said that was boring.
17:51.30BeladonaI like the current implementation
17:51.38Kaeltenso they met half way
17:52.13Beladonapeople consider shamans overpowered, and previously I might have agreed, but after playing one I have to say they do have drawbacks
17:52.22Beladonathe benefits are just really good
17:53.11AnduinLotharpally ftw
17:53.22AnduinLotharpally's are og
17:53.28futrtrublshammies rock for warsong gulch
17:53.52Kaeltenwell I talked to a GM about that, and he said that he saw a one on one fight pally vs shaman that lasted for 45 mins and then both sides just waved and walked away
17:54.12id`;O
17:54.41Kaeltenthe speakers just said that since they get a few thousand requests to nerf shamans and a few thousand to nerf pallies they figure its about equal
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17:56.15TainOne of the funniest things I've ever seen is someone barely by the skin of his teeth beat a Shaman.  He immediately sat down to eat food and was killed by the Shamans's fireball totem.
17:56.27Kaeltenlmao
17:56.40TainI couldn't even play I was laughing so hard.
17:59.59Temoh sweet!
18:00.07TemI just got an email from my bio proff
18:00.24Tem"If you have not, yet, bought your text for biology, there is a limited
18:00.24Temsupply of FREE ones..."
18:00.48TemI went to look at that book... they were like $110
18:01.42Endbleh, textbooks are so expensive :-/
18:02.11BeladonaI think they are pretty balanced
18:02.20BeladonaI have beaten pallies before on my warrior
18:02.30Beladonayou gotta know what you are doing, but it is entirely possible
18:02.54Beladonamore I should say: you gotta know what THEY are doing, so you can counter it
18:05.46Beladonawdn compares for 1.9.2 are live
18:05.53Beladonanothing to compare of course, but hey
18:06.10Tem1.9.2?
18:06.18Temfix the skippy bug?
18:06.33Beladonalets hope
18:06.50Beladonajust wait, 1.9.3 will fx the skippy bug fix
18:07.42Natasemok who broke the forums this time????  ya'll got to stop breakin stuff
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18:09.33Beladonasomeone should post a HOWTO: Read the Manual thread
18:09.33Natasemmmmmm salt water taffy for breakfast
18:09.33Legorolgood evening
18:09.34NatasemRTFM
18:09.49Legoroli have a question about posting ethics on the official forums
18:09.57Natasemok
18:10.09Natasemi am king of ethics, i have been banned many of times
18:10.13LegorolBlizzard Europe's attitude has been that they are very hush hush about which realm is located physically in which data center
18:10.18TainLegorol: If it's not a post about decursive, G15, weapon swapping macros, then you can't post
18:10.32Temoh right that reminds me... I need to finish that greasemonkey script I was working on...
18:10.32Legoroldamn, then i'm unlucky Tain ;-)
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18:11.01TemAuto-kill threads with "g15" "decursive" "weapon swap" in the title
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18:11.16LegorolSo out of curiousity, and prompted by the recent realm rearrangements in Europe, I have compiled a list of all European English realms, when they were launched, for what purpose (fresh/migration), and where are they located
18:11.17TainOh and, "What's this addon" and "Help with DUF"
18:11.30MoonWolfAfternoon people.
18:11.32LegorolAll information purely compiled from official Blizzard news posts on the main page, and blue posts
18:11.46Legoroland publically available information such as whois and traceroute
18:11.54Legorolwith a healthy doze of logical deduction
18:12.01LegorolAnyway, i posted this list on the General forum
18:12.03MoonWolfwere you bored ?
18:12.06LegorolIt seems lke it got deleted
18:12.22LegorolDo you think i should attempt to post it agian, and/or ask why it was deleted?
18:12.25Legorolthat's my dilemma
18:12.53TainPosts asking why my post was deleted never cause any good.
18:13.01Legorolthat is true
18:13.33Legoroli guess i'll just post it on the wiki
18:13.40TainI do also come at it from the point of view that Blizzard can delete anything I post without having to give me an explanation.
18:14.55[MoonWolf]tain, I would assume the same.
18:15.04LegorolTain, that is true
18:15.14LegorolI also understand they are very hush-hush about which realm is in which data center
18:15.17[MoonWolf]It is their forum, they host it they moderate it, you should be hapy there is a forum to begin with
18:15.18Beladonathat is why if you want it to stick around, you powet it in 3 locations, Typically two forums, and your own blog
18:15.19NatasemLeg i would post it in the UI forums
18:15.22Beladonapost*
18:15.23[MoonWolf]lots of other mmorpgs don't have one.
18:15.37LegorolNatasem, nothing to do with UI
18:15.53LegorolI just don't know... the thing is, Blizzard clearly doesn't want this information public
18:15.54Natasemi know but it lees looked at by the Mods than the General forum
18:16.08Legorolbut i think that since it's publically available knowledge anyway, players deserve to know it
18:16.09Temhah! I did it
18:16.18TemI got a script that turns cair into an MVP
18:16.25[MoonWolf]yay
18:16.34[MoonWolf]screens.
18:16.35Legorolwhen you are creating a new alt, i think you should be able to tell which realm is in which data center
18:16.44Legorolso you can pick one that had low latency for you in the past
18:16.51LegorolBlizzard Europe currently has 4 data centers running
18:17.04LegorolDifferent people find different ones provide less lag/latency for them
18:17.19[MoonWolf]i thought it was three legorol ?
18:17.27[MoonWolf]initially one in france and one in germany
18:17.33[MoonWolf]later one was added for the new realms.
18:17.37Natasemwell there is
18:17.42Natasemlet me get ya the link brb
18:17.49Cairennit'd be much more apt to make Iriel appear to be one, than me
18:17.56Temhttp://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=011220061217278gr.png
18:18.08TemCairenn: I'd rather do both
18:18.10Cairenn*sigh*
18:18.15Cairennsome days ....
18:18.30Cairennlooking for info  
18:18.30Cairenn<hr>
18:18.30Cairenn<PROTECTED>
18:18.30CairennI'm womdering if it's possible to move a Char. from Kirin Tor (RP)
18:18.30Cairennto Malfurion realm ?
18:18.43Temwhat the hell?
18:18.48LegorolCairenn, please help me with my dilemma..
18:18.49Cairennlike, hello? why the fuck would I be able to help with that?
18:19.00LegorolI don't want to do smoething that Blizz would frown on
18:19.02CairennLego, they get pissed off if you post asking why your post was deleted
18:19.07LegorolThey don't seem to want a list of realm->data centers
18:19.13Legorolno, i won't ask about deletion
18:19.17TainHelp me Obi-Wan Cairenn, you're my only hope!
18:19.23Legoroli am now considering whether i should or not make my list public on a different site
18:19.42Natasemand *gasp* actually use it once in a while
18:19.44Natasemlol
18:19.51Natasemi tell people that all the time
18:19.55Cairenntem, you forgot the icon
18:20.04Temwhich Icon?
18:20.10[MoonWolf]Lebannen, post it on the wowwiki with a piece of text saying that if blizzard thinks this should not be there they should contact you.
18:20.14TemI'm not all that familiar with the whole concept
18:20.22Lebannenhmm?
18:20.36[MoonWolf]Legorol i mean.
18:20.43[MoonWolf]stupid autocomplete should learn to read my mind.
18:20.44Cairennfind that link I gave you last night to the post by whatshisname
18:20.45TainDon't pay any attention, Lebannen.  MoonWolf is having tab-complete issues.
18:21.04CairennNatasem: liked that, did you?
18:21.10Natasemlol ya
18:21.27Temhttp://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=011220061220318jg.png ?
18:21.51[MoonWolf]lol
18:21.51CairennROFL, no
18:21.53Cairennlol
18:21.55Natasemn00b question: is there a short cut key to get a person full name put in the chat box in Irc
18:22.04Cairenntab
18:22.23[MoonWolf]Natasem, depends on your client but generally tab.
18:22.32Natasembut that only does the last person that said anything
18:22.49[MoonWolf]if i put in cair and press tab i get Cairenn .
18:23.01Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=287616&p=1&tmp=1#post287616
18:23.02NatasemCairenn: cool
18:23.08Cairennthat's for you, Tem
18:23.15TemI don't see an icon
18:23.26Temwhat Icon are you talking about?
18:23.27Cairennyeah, just noticed that, weird, there used to be one
18:23.32Natasem<PROTECTED>
18:23.32[MoonWolf]If i do it at the beginning of a text line it even puts a , after the name.
18:24.01[MoonWolf]I cant see no icon either.
18:24.34Cairennyet if you go to the page the thread is on, you see the icon beside his name, which is what I was thinking of:  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&pageno=110
18:24.56CairennI just thought it showed up *in* the thread, as well
18:25.18a-stray-catcan you guys actually see the forums?
18:25.22a-stray-cati just get "Error"
18:25.30Cairennclose and reopen in a new window
18:25.31[MoonWolf]only the slightly blue text it seems.
18:25.35Cairennforums are up
18:26.04Natasemno they ain't
18:26.07a-stray-catwth, still getting an error
18:26.14[MoonWolf]natasem clear cache
18:26.20NatasemCairenn: broke forums
18:26.28Cairennthey are up for me
18:26.41Temoh poo.. now that means I'm going to have to do some stuff at the forum level and not just at the post level
18:26.41Natasemmoon i have it set to clear cash every time the browser closes
18:26.48[MoonWolf]okay.
18:26.51[MoonWolf]i have no idea then.
18:26.51Kaeltenlater guys see you all later
18:26.56Cairennlater Kael
18:26.58[MoonWolf]cya Kaelten
18:27.42a-stray-catstill getting perma errors :/
18:28.13Cairennand actually, I'm out for a while too guys, see if I can maybe possibly get some sleep, finally
18:28.30ElkanoWhen did the patches start to change your desktop links? Oo
18:28.43a-stray-catbye cair
18:28.47a-stray-cata while ago elk
18:28.55CairennNatasem: did you like my response to "who are you"?
18:29.06CairennI thought I was very polite and even handed
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18:31.53BeladonaI believe the desktop link started getting modified when the launcher came out
18:34.15Temwell they don't check the quicklanch bar
18:34.25TemI'm too l
18:34.37Temand I'm too lazy to change my shortcut
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18:36.15Shouryuurawr
18:36.20Gryphenono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle.
18:37.04ShouryuuI need huggles too...
18:37.33TemNo!
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18:40.26Shouryuumeanny
18:40.28Shouryuueveryone's mean with me anyways
18:41.40Temlol
18:42.21Shouryuueven my firefox i ganking up on me...
18:47.51Natasemganking you mean ganging up
18:49.33Shouryuufine!
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19:05.15IrielTem: Do you read slouken's last post in the item cache thread as a poetic no?
19:05.40Temdid he post again?
19:05.57Temoh lol
19:06.09Temuntil he says "no" or equivilant I'm not giving up
19:06.15TemI'll bump it once a day
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19:14.53IrielWiki question -- Would a "Handlers supported" section for each frame type be useful at all?
19:15.10IrielNot that i'm promising it, I just realized that with HasScript, it's implementable
19:15.12TainYes, very much so.
19:15.29Irielok, i'll give it a shot next time i'm fiddling with that script
19:16.14TemI wish more people posted like this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=300155&p=1&tmp=1#post300155
19:16.47TemIriel: you can get that info (accurately I think) from the schema
19:17.32IrielAll the scripts are in one enormous type
19:18.23Temoh
19:18.30Temthat's right
19:18.31Shouryuuis Cide here/
19:18.38Cideyes
19:18.41Temhmm I wonder what I was thinking about
19:19.02Shouryuuyou still need those blesings in french?
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19:25.01TainOk!  Ambition officially depleted again.
19:25.37Cideyes
19:25.40Beladonasudo make
19:25.43Beladonaoops
19:25.52Beladonadamn popup windows
19:25.55Tainmake error: no target
19:25.59Beladonahaha
19:27.28ShouryuuCide - http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/index.php?page=competences&c=4&t=9&tri=1
19:29.06Beladonatrying to compile and install something and it is being a biotch
19:33.05Cidethanks Shouryuu
19:33.12Shouryuunp
19:33.53TainSee Shouryuu I think you are a good guy no matter what they say about you.
19:34.43ForgottenLordsis there a table in the default wow UI that contains all the channels the user is in?
19:35.09Shouryuuthans tain =P
19:35.43TainThat's what I'm here for! :)
19:36.02Shouryuuhehe
19:36.54Shouryuuit's been a while since someone's been nice with me on this channel =D
19:38.07TainBunch of meanies around here.
19:38.41AnduinLotharForgottenLords> no
19:38.50ForgottenLordsok, thanks
19:38.54IrielForgottenLords : Not exactly, but there is a per-chat-frame channel list array
19:39.18AnduinLotharwhich is not really consistant to what you're currently in
19:39.20IrielForgottenLords : It could get out of sync if people run JoinChannelByName's themselves tho
19:39.36ForgottenLordshmm
19:39.37BeladonaIriel: what was the tool you used to extract the symbols from the wow exe?
19:39.47ForgottenLordsI will have to investigate deeper
19:39.56AnduinLotharSky has a getCurrentChannelTable
19:39.59IrielBeladona : The unix strings command, piped through what's basically a glorified grep
19:40.07IrielBeladona : strings - WoW.exe | somescript
19:40.08AnduinLotharwhich parses GetChannelList()
19:40.31IrielThere is GetChatWindowChannels too
19:41.23IrielBeladona : Then I feed that into LUA, and check each symbol against the global environment -- there's very little point these days other than morbid interest, since we have getfenv(0)
19:41.47Beladonayeah
19:42.16BeladonaI was suffering from morbid interest
19:42.21Beladona=P
19:42.30IrielI have a bad case of it myself
19:42.50BeladonaI am actually looking for a way to get the extraction list out of the custom interface kit though
19:42.53IrielI use it to generate my list of potential frame methods, too
19:42.56Beladonaso that I can build a linux port of it
19:43.27IrielIsn't that just a matter of merging interface.mpq and the patch.mpq's
19:43.36Beladonaprobably, but I like to be sure
19:44.43Beladonamaybe what I should do is take the files from the kit, and one I extract manually, and compare them
19:46.03IrielThat would be my suggestion
19:46.44IrielLooking at the kit with a hex editor or strings or something to see what kind of things it looks for may be an interesting first step also
19:49.06IrielTem: <Slouken>  It's a cool idea, but making it useful would be a fair bit of work.
19:49.11IrielFrom the post
19:49.42Temoh I see it now
19:49.43Temthanks
19:50.47IrielI posted a reply 8-)
19:51.15TemWhy not 1.11?
19:51.36TemI want to respond "So let me do it for you"
19:51.37IrielThe humor doesn't work for 1.11
19:52.13Temspell it out
19:53.32IrielSome of the times he says he'll do something we ask for in the future, we dont bug him about it for a bit, but he gets all creative and comes up with something better
19:54.17Temlike Font Obejcts?
19:54.46Irielyeah
19:55.01Tem(my clogged brain was thinking there was a creative pun in 1.12)
19:55.14Temespecially after my poor shakespear reference
19:55.17Irieloh no, i'm not awake enough either for that kind of trickery
19:56.07TemSomehow I had never come across /bb|[^b]{2}/ until yesterday
19:56.35Temso it's still quite funny to me
19:56.53TemI've considered buying a t-shirt with it on the front
19:56.57IrielExcept it's to be or to not be
19:57.47Temwell, yeah that's the point
19:57.59Temoh god, I should just go back to bed
19:58.08Irielheh
19:58.14Temthis is horrible I can't even understand my own stuff
19:58.15Irielwork on your frame framework instead
19:58.27Irieldocument it if your mind isn't up for coding
19:58.32Temheh..
19:58.37Temthere isn't much to document yet
19:58.41TemI've only got LayoutFrame
19:58.47Temwith an empty SetPoint
19:59.18IrielMaybe you should do show and hide
19:59.19Temhttp://wow.pastebin.com/502837
19:59.21Irielthey're relatievly easy
19:59.32Temthat's what I have so far
19:59.34IrielAlong with IsVisible and IsShown
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20:00.23TemI've done those
20:01.28Temheh you can tell I haven't read back over it or run it yet
20:01.42krkaanyone know where I could find the rank / unit level data for friendly spells?
20:01.52Temtooltip
20:02.08Temoh do you mean other player's spells?
20:02.25krkano, I want to see on which level targets I can do my spells
20:02.43Temthat I think you just have to know
20:02.48IrielWhy are yoiu giving each frame its own metatable?
20:02.57IrielWhy not be more creative with FAKE_USERDATA?
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20:03.08GaldocHey folks.
20:03.22Shouryuuhey
20:03.30Irielperformance?
20:03.41GaldocHow's everyone doing today?
20:03.43TemI'm giving each frame it's own metatable because originally I was using the metatable to store the stuff I'm now putting in the frameInfo table
20:03.43krkawell, someone must have already gathered the data :)
20:04.00Temkrka: I dunno, check out one of the 142425234 buffing addons
20:04.09krkamaybe I will!
20:04.10krkawhat'
20:04.10TemI'm sure can you find something to your liking in one of them
20:04.12IrielTem: Personally i'd make your fake userdata a table with a specific entry
20:04.13Shouryuunot too bad for once =P
20:04.14krkawhat's a good one? :)
20:04.21IrielTem: let me pastebin what I mean
20:04.24Temk
20:05.06Galdocwell, that's good.
20:05.39GaldocI just reinstalled WoW after having a crash. Lost a lot of stuff; it sucked. :)
20:05.48IrielTem: http://wow.pastebin.com/502854
20:06.17GaldocHas anyone else had any problems with Discord's Unit Frames mod?
20:07.00krkaIriel, I have utterly failed with doing a rotated rectangle with, could you mock something up pretty please? :)
20:07.15TainNever used it here, Galdoc
20:07.41Shouryuume neither
20:07.54GaldocIt's a very robust unitframe modifier
20:07.57TemIriel: What do I gain with that implementation? Do people ever need to stick stuff on the userdata like it's a table?
20:08.15Irielkrka : I'll try and throw something together, if I haven't gotten around to it in a couple of hours, bug me again. I'm only wowi-ing between bits of work
20:08.18IrielTem: Your frame information
20:08.19TainOh I know, Galdoc.  I just prefer WatchDog.
20:08.21ShouryuuI really like Perl Nymbia's
20:08.25IrielTem: like visible, width, etc
20:08.29Temah
20:08.30GaldocAaaah. Fair enough. :)
20:08.31TemI like that
20:08.34TemI like that alot
20:08.35TainOr AcePerl. :)
20:08.50Shouryuunever tried that...
20:08.59GaldocPerl's good. :)
20:09.00IrielTem: you could even just make the metatable __index look for methods in there
20:09.05GaldocHaven't seen watchdog.
20:09.11IrielTem: and then you have fairly normal lua objects
20:09.28krkaIriel awesome! thanks!
20:09.34IrielTem: but there may well be cleaner solutions
20:09.52TemI'm going to ponder it over lunch
20:09.54Tem/nic
20:09.57Tem><
20:10.01TemThanks for the suggestions
20:10.27TemOne of these days I'm going to stop hitting esc to clear my entry box
20:10.27Shouryuuwow http://cristgaming.com/bear.JPG that's a tanking druid
20:11.00Galdocha.
20:11.03GaldocSomeday, that'll be me! *druid*
20:11.42Shouryuuhehe
20:11.50ShouryuuI'm leveling, or trying to, a feral druid
20:11.56Galdoc*nods*
20:12.11ShouryuuHad enough of getting WTFPWN in PvP with my priest =P
20:12.18Shouryuugetting 2 shottted by rogues ain't fun
20:12.25GenNMXFeral Druid really is the way to go for both PvE and PvP unless your guild NEEDS Innervate.
20:12.25Galdoc*nods* Yeah, you're target the first.
20:12.41ShouryuuI just want to DPS and survive =D
20:12.58GenNMXThat's what Druids do best -- Surviving
20:13.16Galdocyup.
20:13.17GenNMXAlthough I'd say a Paladin is better at surviving in group PvP since no one thinks they're a threat ;)
20:13.29GaldocThat's why we can solo a bunch of BRD, all the way to the bank and through it.
20:14.06TainPaladins only survive so long because no one feels like fighting them for 20 minutes until they pop all thier nonsense and finally die.
20:14.23AnduinLotharlol, no one attacks the pally
20:14.41GenNMXPally really is the best PvP healer, all things considered.
20:14.43AnduinLotharexcept when they get pissed and chase them till they cant shield any more
20:14.43GaldocThey're too hard to kill for too little return.
20:15.03krkaeveryone attacks a mage :/
20:15.05GenNMXOf course, to be the best PvP healer, that means the Pally needs to heal OTHERS (gasp)
20:15.08krkaor maybe it's just me
20:15.30GaldocYou kill the priests, then mages, then rogues / druids, then whatever, then warriors and palladins.
20:15.31TainMages just die quickest so they're an easy hit.  Mages and Necros, lowest hp and armor.
20:15.35AnduinLothari heal others all the time, but it also means that the mages need to not go off on their own
20:15.46GenNMXkrka: You'd attack the guy with a bazooka wearing nothing but a thong too. I mean, he's running around with a BAZOOKA!
20:16.00TainHalf the time if a mage needs healing it's too late for him anyway. :)
20:16.07krkatrue
20:16.23AnduinLotharthis is what blessing of protection is for
20:16.24krkasome of the time I can sheep and blink to safety though
20:16.45AnduinLotharor even better is repentance
20:16.47Tainhehe of course as a major frost spec i used to pop my frost shields at like any hit.
20:16.56TainIceblock!  dum de dum de dum dum
20:17.24AnduinLotharya, being about to incapacitate any humanoid in combat at 30 feet is priceless
20:17.28AnduinLotharalbe*
20:17.41AnduinLotharesp with the 1 min cooldown
20:18.35krkayeah
20:18.55krkaonly 1 min? I could almost swear I could keep mobs constantly sheeped
20:19.07AnduinLothari was speaking of repentance
20:19.17TainI used to argue with my guildmates.  "You should save xxx for when it's really needed!"  Screw that, I have it, I'm using it.  Strategy be damned.
20:19.44AnduinLotharsheeping is great too, but it takes longer to cast, doesn't it?
20:21.19AnduinLotharrepentance is instant cast
20:22.40krkaoh sorry
20:22.47AnduinLotharshep is 1.5s cast
20:22.51krkawhat is repentence? i am only level 31
20:23.07AnduinLotharpally 6 sec incapacitate
20:23.15krkaah
20:23.19krkathat's why i don't know it then
20:23.22AnduinLotharused to be top of the prot tree
20:23.33AnduinLotharnow it's top of the ret tree
20:23.51AnduinLotharso not ret is more viable pvp
20:23.59AnduinLothartho prot is still the best pvp tree
20:24.05AnduinLotharanyway.. class
20:26.37ShouryuuI want to reroll a pally for PvP healin
20:27.15Beladonahex edit view of the custom interface kit showed nothing worthwhile, I am thinking it might extract what it needs on each use, probably in temp
20:27.18Galdocback.
20:27.25Galdocdamnit. I just can't get this thing to work.
20:27.37Shouryuuthey are unbelievable
20:27.37Shouryuuthe healing power of a priest (or almost) and plate
20:27.37Shouryuuthat;s just, the shit
20:27.53Galdocbah.
20:27.56Galdockeep playing your druid.
20:28.04GaldocDruids > pallies. :)
20:28.10Beladonaand I was correct
20:28.55IrielCorrect in that it uses tmp?
20:29.22IrielI was going to guess it extracted on the fly (scan MPQ's - build map of which files it needs, then extract them into their expected destinations)
20:29.50Shouryuuyeah overall
20:29.53Shouryuubut specifically
20:29.57Shouryuuas PvP healers
20:30.01Shouryuupally > everything
20:30.10GaldocI suppose.
20:30.21Beladonathe custom interface kit is just an autorun more or less. It extracts the entire application to temp, and runs it from there
20:30.24GaldocI haven't tried, so I don't know that much into it
20:30.34Beladonawav files, graphics, everything is there
20:30.38Beladonawacky
20:31.01IrielIs it a compressed loader (i.e. contains the code itself) or is the actual interface kit part of the wow install?
20:31.17Beladonasome of it is still internal I am sure
20:31.27Beladonamostly resources
20:31.29Beladonaxml files
20:31.34Beladonalocalizations
20:31.37Beladonafonts
20:31.40Beladonaicon
20:31.47Beladonaaudio
20:31.51Beladonaand graphics
20:31.53GaldocSay, does anyone know of a program that can modify the meshes in WoW?
20:32.31IrielAt least you can analyze those while extracted
20:32.36IrielSee if there's any paths in them
20:33.05Beladonainteresting
20:33.14Beladonathere may actually be a command line backend
20:33.33Beladonait passes LanguageCode,Data to the exe
20:33.38Beladonato extract data
20:33.44BeladonaLanguageCode,Art for art
20:33.56IrielHandy, that's what you were after, right?
20:34.12Beladonaand there is an exe called Installer.exe
20:34.18Beladonanot sure what it does yet
20:34.56Beladonaahh it is definitely the backend
20:35.02Beladonajust need to figure out the args to pass
20:35.46IrielTry enUS,Data ?
20:36.22Beladonano worky
20:36.24Beladona=(
20:36.34Beladonagonna view hex on it
20:37.20Beladonabingo
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20:38.29Tainbingo?  That's an odd command line option
20:38.43Beladonait extracts random numbered files
20:39.41Beladonait is referencing a file called InstallCD\InstallerFileList\InstallerFileList.xml but I don't see that anywhere
20:41.10IrielIs it in one of the MPQ's ?
20:41.24IrielOr is it encoded/embedded in compressed form inside the CustomInterfaceKit exe
20:41.46IrielWhich i'm suspecting is a self-extracting compressed application
20:42.20Beladonaprobably internal
20:42.40Beladonathe CustomInterfaceKit extracts what it needs, and then bootstraps the installer.exe
20:48.15Beladonainteresting
20:48.25Beladonait appears to contain some of teh code from the actual installer off the game cdrom
20:51.05futrtrublwhat are valid LanguageCode values?
20:56.10Shouryuuwell see ya
21:04.35zeegAnduinLothar, you here
21:06.03Gryphenno he's there
21:06.36zeegi cant figure out how to remove this damn drive from the mac :|
21:06.54sharkhatzeeg what drive, what mac?
21:07.14[MoonWolf]move it to the trash ?
21:07.41zeeghdd drive
21:07.54zeegits somehow slid into place, no screws
21:08.24[MoonWolf]Sledgehammer.
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21:10.19GaldocI'll try again -- is anyone else familliar with the use of Discord Unit Frames?
21:11.01Maldiviazeeg: you have the weirdest problems...
21:11.09MaldiviaGaldoc: I don't :|
21:11.19GaldocDarn.
21:11.35GaldocI'm trying to figure out why on earth it's not displaying any health or mana for any of the units. :/
21:12.24zeegMaldivia, thats because all the easy stuff i can figure it out :P
21:12.42zeegeven the moderately difficult stuff
21:12.51zeegit sjust the simple "wtf" things i have problems with
21:13.25Maldivia... such as removing a harddrive... :)
21:13.39zeeg><
21:13.47zeegnever had a mac before tuesday :P
21:14.17Maldiviawhy did you get one, then?
21:14.25zeegdk
21:14.30zeegsounded like a good idea at the time
21:14.52[MoonWolf]why does the hd have to go out in the first place ?
21:15.20zeegbecause it dont want to let the cd-rom work w/ an hdd on that ilne, and i have 4 hdds :P
21:18.35Beladonamacs weren't exactly made for extensive hardware retooling
21:19.03zeegid be happy if i could get it to read one hdd properly
21:23.42zeegok got os x 10.3 installed again, we'll go from here
21:24.05Maldiviathe harddisks you have, are they partitioned and have data on them ?
21:24.25zeegthey're ntfs, 3 of them are at least
21:24.38zeegand i cant get it to show the files on them, so im trying a reinstall of the o/s
21:24.48zeegits supposed to have read support for ntfs but idk
21:25.23Maldiviahmm, does mac use the same way to partition disks?
21:25.37Maldiviacant remember if that's a x86 hardware specific way of doing it
21:25.49zeegno they have a special formatting
21:25.58[MoonWolf]does mac osx support ntfs ?
21:25.59zeegbut the primary drive is in mac ext
21:26.03zeeg10.3 does
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21:27.07Shouryuurawr
21:27.13Gryphenono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle.
21:27.25zeegoo wowguru displays right in safari
21:27.38ShouryuuYou get what you give :P
21:28.49Shouryuudang forums are down... no where to troll anymore =(
21:29.13Galdocyeah, I was wondering if I was the only one.
21:29.40Shouryuuno, you're not the only troll here =P
21:30.42MaldiviaI have a reply to a post, I've been waiting to send for 20mins now... annoying :)
21:32.59Irielzeeg: You ARE sure that the drives do have files on them, visible in Windows, and NOT encrypted/compressed or anything silly like that?
21:33.21zeegya
21:33.27zeegthey worked in my windows box earlier this week
21:33.35zeegeach of them has 100+gigs of files
21:33.41Beladonaugh, anyone know of a working mpq extraction tool for linux?
21:35.23IrielBeladona : No, but when you find one, let me know. Preferably one with source.
21:35.35Galdocalas, no. :/
21:35.38Beladonayeah
21:35.56IrielAll of my attempts to find one crumble by using a binary dll
21:35.58BeladonaI want to be able to build it and just extract via shell scripts
21:37.05BeladonaI did find mpq-tools, which has a libmpq, but I am not sure if it works
21:37.23zeegerr
21:37.38zeegmac os x available on intel, does that mean it still needs the special hardware but they have intel boards? or it would run on a normal pc?
21:37.45Beladonampq-tools sure doesn't
21:37.58Beladonaspecial hardware
21:38.10Beladonathey are going to be using intel specific systems with EFI rather than BIOS
21:38.14Irielzeeg: The current theory is it'll only run on specific hardware
21:39.03MaldiviaBeladona: checked http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowmapview ?
21:40.10Beladonadoes it view data within the mpw archives?
21:40.14Beladonaerr mpq
21:40.34Maldiviayes
21:40.46Maldiviabut dont know if it uses a lib for the mpq extraction
21:40.56Beladonayeah it does
21:41.15Irieleveryone seems to use the same lib (or one of a small set)
21:41.22Irieland none of them seem to have source available
21:41.32Beladonathe problem is the old libmpq doesn't handle wow's mpq headers
21:41.43Beladonahopefully this one does
21:42.01zeegi could probably make one
21:42.04zeegbut i dont really have the time
21:42.22Irielmake what? a working source MPQ extractor?
21:42.29zeegya
21:42.32IrielIf you had references to full specs that'd be a useful thing
21:42.33zeegbesides that
21:42.35zeegi despise linux
21:42.42IrielThat's your cross to bear
21:42.43Iriel8-)
21:42.45zeeg:P
21:42.56IrielYou'll need it in OSX soon enough anyway when you fall in love with apple
21:42.58zeegi might have specs around here somewhere, but dk
21:43.03zeegnah
21:43.05Beladonahave you read through this Iriel? http://www.campaigncreations.org/starcraft/inside_mopaq/index.htm
21:43.06zeegwindows > *
21:43.07zeeg:D
21:43.52Beladonaunfortunately the part we need is Chapter 5-6, and he hasn't written those yet
21:44.00IrielI'd run against it before, but since the useful bits were all missing I didn't read too much
21:44.10MaldiviaWhy use Linux when you can use BSD :)
21:44.18zeegbboooo
21:44.26zeegi wont run anything as a desktop other than windows
21:44.31Beladonaso that I can smack you with a dead fish when you say that
21:44.31zeegtoo much work for it to be useful
21:44.36zeegmac im just not familiar with
21:44.48MaldiviaMac is just a fancy FreeBSD :)
21:44.56zeegwith a windows system that's not worthless
21:44.57zeegya?
21:44.58zeeg:P
21:45.22zeeganyone kept up on qnx?
21:45.32zeegthat looked kind of promising years back, havent checked up on it tho
21:45.46Maldiviawell, QNX is a real-time system...
21:47.10zeegany chance there's apple remote desktop client for windows? :)
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21:48.20Maldiviardesktop
21:48.29Maldiviaprobably works on Mac aswell
21:48.45IrielWell, when we say "linux client" we mean "client written in standard C or C++ or java that'll compile or run on unix and has source"
21:48.46Irielgenerally
21:49.08zeeghrm
21:49.11zeegrdesktop any better than VNC?
21:49.17Irielyes and no
21:49.20Maldiviacheck http://rdesktop.darwinports.com/
21:49.26Irielit's got a better user experience for normal windows stuff
21:49.31Irieland is supported natively server side
21:49.34sharkhatMaldivia that is about 20% true...
21:49.39Irielbut VNC has its own advantages
21:49.52Maldiviasharkhat ?
21:49.55IrielI use rdesktop almost always now, to control windows machines
21:49.59Beladonalike being able to run opengl applications
21:50.02Beladona=)
21:50.02sharkhatmac os x is like 25% bsd, 25% old school mac and about 50% NeXtstep
21:50.19Beladonardesktop disables those extensions in a terminal session
21:50.19IrielHm, they really busted the forums today
21:50.20zeegerr does rdesktop actually let you connect to the mac, or is it vice versa
21:50.52Maldiviavice versa
21:51.08Maldiviardesktop is a Microsoft Remote Desktop client
21:51.14zeegk dont need that then
21:51.18Maldiviaor what ever they call their protocol
21:51.45Iriel'vnc' with x windows is a bit iffy
21:51.49Maldiviajust start X and sshd on your mac :)
21:51.55BeladonaRDP
21:51.56zeegkua;fj;lkf
21:51.59zeegim not using linux
21:52.01zeegi hate linux
21:52.03zeegwindows -> mac
21:52.04zeeglol
21:52.05sharkhatMaldivia check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xnu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS/OS_X
21:52.07IrielFind a windows X server
21:52.10BeladonaRDPv5 is newer
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21:52.12Irieland then do what Maldivia suggested
21:52.22zeeghttp://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=457699
21:53.12Beladonajsut use VNC
21:53.16Beladonaeasy to setup
21:53.24zeegya im gonna try that
21:54.23IrielBeladona : you've had success setting up a vnc server over an existing X server session?
21:54.40IrielBeladona : I'll admit I haven't tried it in years, but last time I did it required that you run a special virtual X server
21:55.26zeegclick the link i pasted Iriel
21:55.51Maldivianoo... don't do it... it's a trick!! :)
21:56.21BeladonaI haven't messed with it honestly Iriel - I usually remote into windows boxes FROM my linux box, not the other way around
21:57.05BeladonaVNC doesn't have instructions on their site I take it?
21:58.00BeladonaI am having trouble compiling that wowmapview, the dependencies aren't easily attainable, and something is kicking it back involving SDL and something else
22:09.17a-stray-catyo, anyone know that text editor that like multiple people can use to edit one file at the same time?
22:13.02Temgobby?
22:13.09sharkhata-stray-cat that feature is called 'collaboritive editing' and many text editors support it
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22:13.49sharkhatsubethaedit for mac is really nice /./
22:14.31Maldiviait uses Rendevouz, right?
22:14.44Maldiviaor however it's spelled
22:15.03sharkhatyep
22:15.58Maldiviabut yes, collaborative editing is really nice, when doing extreme programming :)
22:16.18a-stray-catcan anyone recommend one for windows?
22:16.19a-stray-cat:)
22:17.17zeegooo yay
22:17.22zeegits reading one of my disks
22:17.59Maldivia*cheer*
22:18.13Beladonagoing home, have fun all
22:19.01id`a-stray-cat, theres http://gobby.0x539.de/
22:21.38zeegdamnit it wont read my 300gb
22:21.43zeegor my 2nd 120gb
22:21.54zeegthe 120 it wont read at all, and the 300 says it has no files
22:21.54zeeg:|
22:22.45a-stray-catthx id
22:23.03Temoh hell
22:23.22Temphew
22:23.27TemCair copied them to wowi
22:23.55[MoonWolf]Tem, what the beep are you talking about ?
22:24.04Temthe 1.10 changes
22:24.25[MoonWolf]okay
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22:25.43Tembah
22:25.53Temwhat's the windows equivilant to "touch" ?
22:26.12Maldiviaget cygwin - and you have touch :)
22:26.33Tem(On an unrelated note, a command line just isn't a command line of I can't tell it to "touch shit" followed by "cat shit")
22:26.40MaldiviaTem: or http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
22:27.05Tems/of/if/
22:27.15Temgod I love that
22:27.19Temwho did that btw?
22:28.00Maldiviawhich?
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22:28.26Temthe s/// thing with the bot
22:28.49AnduinLotharwonder how well it works
22:28.52Maldiviadunno - but's it fun, although a bit spammy, perhaps :)
22:28.59Temperhaps
22:29.00Maldivias/.//
22:29.02Tembut I <3 it
22:29.07Tems/<3/love/
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22:29.20Tem~botsnack
22:29.20purlTem: aw, gee
22:29.21Verlainerawr
22:29.26Gryphenono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle.
22:29.28Maldiviaok, not regex syntax :|
22:29.31[MoonWolf]what purl does the replacement thing now ?
22:29.59Tem< isn't a "magic" character is it?
22:30.19Maldivianope - but . is, and it didn't change anything on s/.//
22:30.23AnduinLothardemends o who ya ask
22:30.52AnduinLotharsweet. the forums dont exist
22:30.58Temoh I didn't see your attempt
22:31.15krkais there a true regexp syntax?
22:31.18Maldiviadid you see the unxutils link then ?
22:31.22krkai have seen so many different variations
22:31.38Maldiviaperl-regex is the only true thing :)
22:31.45Verlainelol did anyone see the tooltip on the picture for "war effort rankings" on worldofwarcraft.com?
22:32.17Verlaine"We requiere more vespene gas"
22:32.17MaldiviaWe require mre vespene gas ?
22:32.20Verlaine=P
22:32.23[MoonWolf]lol
22:32.26[MoonWolf][Epic]
22:32.29krkaLOL
22:32.34krkaLOL out loud!
22:32.39Verlainell
22:32.58AnduinLothardud,e that's awsome..
22:32.58MaldiviaI love the wow webadmins humour...
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22:33.19AnduinLothars/dud,e/dude/
22:34.02Maldiviatest for if for multiple for changes for works
22:34.05Maldivias/for//g
22:34.13Verlainehehe
22:34.38AnduinLotharmissed the space in u search pattern
22:34.45zeeghm
22:34.47AnduinLothars/u/your/
22:35.03Verlaines/hehe/hoho/
22:35.14id`bought 20 bolt of linen cloth
22:35.16Temhehe
22:35.20id`for 80S
22:35.21Tems/e/o/
22:35.23Verlainelol
22:35.26AnduinLothars/ /You /
22:35.27Maldiviaid`: why ?
22:35.30Temhmm
22:35.32AnduinLotharhmmm
22:35.33cladhaireHas anyone seen this behavior.. Log into the game without checking "Load Out Of Date Addons"... then log out, check it, and log back in..
22:35.39cladhaireWatchDog is resetting to the defaults specified in the code.
22:35.40Temit missed my multiple change
22:35.46id`I'm making [Red linen robe] with 19 armor and +1 int and sell it for 15S per piece
22:35.54MaldiviaTem: s/../../g <-- g in the end
22:35.58AnduinLotharRegisterForSave
22:35.59Temah
22:36.04cladhaireAnduinLother: No.
22:36.04id`buyout 30, usually sells for 28
22:36.10id`Maldivia, that's why
22:36.12id`;D
22:36.16Guillotine_cladhaire: is watchdog using RegisterForSave? thats what it sounds like
22:36.18cladhaireANduinLothar: Only location.. not the settings.. i'm not a moron =)
22:36.25AnduinLotharRegisterForDeleteMyPrefrences
22:36.26cladhaireno.. thvariables are fine.
22:36.34cladhaireits JUST the location of the bar
22:36.40AnduinLotharooooh
22:36.42Maldiviaid`: hmm, ok - Linen Cloth is totally overpriced due to the War Effort on my server
22:36.56AnduinLotharwell if th ebar doesn't exists is its loc still saved
22:36.56OsagasuLinen Cloth is overpriced everywherte right now
22:36.56Verlaineeven before it used to be
22:37.03Verlainelol
22:37.14id`Maldivia, it seems that it's 1S per piece of linen cloth on my server
22:37.14Maldiviacladhaire: the frame is never created, hence can't be saved to layout-cache at end
22:37.28AnduinLothar^^
22:37.29Maldiviaid`: it's 1g/stack on my server
22:37.33id`wow
22:37.38cladhaireMaldivia: So it would happen to any frame that is placed and not loaded.
22:37.44Maldiviayep
22:37.44cladhairethat doesn't seem right, but i guess it must be.
22:37.47Verlaine'night people
22:37.54cladhaireI'll just add code that saved the position of each bar then
22:37.56AnduinLotharour thorium prices went back down after we maxed the war effort
22:37.58cladhairein savedvariables.
22:37.59Natasemgawd dam it who broke the forums again?
22:38.40AnduinLotharhorde do linnin?
22:38.46id`wow economy sucks, its too easy
22:38.47Maldiviaalliance do
22:38.56id`i started out with 0 on my character and i'm lvl 17 and i have 5G
22:39.00Natasemcry
22:39.02id`self made
22:39.03id`;D
22:39.05NatasemThe World of Warcraft forums have been brought down for maintenance at 1:00PM PST. They should be unavailable for no longer than three hours. Our apologies for the inconvenience.
22:39.44AnduinLotharya, so all the pvp servers aren't doing as well on the war effort
22:39.56AnduinLotharmore difficult to farm
22:40.48AnduinLotharplus Org or IF always get raided whenever the other Faction summons erakenus..
22:40.54MaldiviaI hate the war effort - everything is so expensive
22:41.06AnduinLotharthink they summoned him 3 times yesterday
22:41.19Natasemlol
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22:41.49AnduinLotharonce it booted everyone on the eastern kingdoms cause horder were raiding if
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22:55.21pagefaultyum
22:55.22pagefaultquiznos
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23:02.35a-stray-cati havent had quiznos in sooo long
23:02.54Maldiviazeeg ?
23:05.04Beladonayou guys try that new soup bread bowl thing they have now?
23:05.30Maldiviaehh...
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23:08.54cladhaireI just need to ask for sanity's sake.
23:09.45cladhairesomeone wants to hook Castspell/UseActino/CastSpellByName and automatically choose the best rank of the spell based on informatnoi about the target (only enough to kill.. just enough to heal, etc)... from a CODING and INTER-OPERATION with other mods standpoint, good idea or bad idea?
23:10.27cladhaire(forgiving the hook-dancing he'll have to do to get the true targets in a number of cases.. something we've already dealt with)
23:11.00id`What children does MinimapCluster have?
23:11.07id`i only want the minimap (with border)
23:11.21id`i already have hidden some things
23:11.45id`namely
23:11.48id`MinimapZoomIn:Hide()
23:11.48id`MinimapZoomOut:Hide()
23:11.48id`GameTimeFrame:Hide()
23:11.48id`MinimapToggleButton:Hide()
23:11.48id`MinimapZoneTextButton:Hide()
23:11.49id`MinimapBorderTop:Hide()
23:11.51id`that
23:12.07id`basically i just have the minimap itself
23:12.12cladhairehold on a sec
23:12.29MaldiviaInterface/FrameXML/Minimap.xml is your friend :)
23:12.41Beladonacladhaire! it seems like forever since I have seen you
23:12.57id`but i dont want to install icky XML =(
23:13.25cladhairewdn.wowinterface.com
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23:13.36cladhaireBEladona: I've been here.. just been busy lately =(
23:13.40id`http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/gfx/idMinimap.jpg
23:13.41id`:P
23:13.55Beladonayeah me 2, so we probably just keep missing each other
23:14.08cladhaireSomeone please answer my question *cry*
23:14.34Beladonabasically they want smart casting right?
23:15.16cladhaireyes.. but they're doing it in the worst possible way ever ever ever ever ever ever
23:16.01cladhaire./script for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(tostring(k)) end is my favorite way to induce lag
23:16.01BeladonaI agree
23:16.09BeladonaI doubt it would be worth the effort involved
23:16.24Maldiviacladhaire: hehe, yeah
23:16.24Beladonanot to metnion hooking it could possibly break it for other addons couldn't it?
23:16.43cladhaireyep
23:16.46cladhairebreak it for plenty
23:16.54cladhaireyou NEVER hook and change data unless you have a good reason =(
23:17.05Beladonaand besides that - it borders on what I personally would consider botting
23:17.20Maldiviahmm, if it should be done by hooking, I would only hook CastSpellByName - check if it has a rank in the string, if not find the best spell
23:17.37cladhairethe concept is nice... have a "spellbook" from which you can drag these spells and then use them to spam
23:17.59cladhaireMaldivia: that's not what he's going for, he wants to avoid macros.. and thats why he doesn't want to make functions or anything sane
23:18.08cladhaireso we told him to make another actionbar.. and he ignored us.
23:18.17BeladonaI think he is lazy
23:18.20Maldiviawell, if it's only to test buff spells, for level checks, then I think it's ok..
23:18.44Maldiviabut I'm personally agains addons/macros etc that select targets or spells for you...
23:19.08Beladonathis isn't everquest, people don't have issues with spells vs levels like they did. It could be a minor annoyance, but I fail to see where it is worth a grand addon
23:19.21id`So with certainty, the frame that displays equipment wear-down is NOT part of the minimap?
23:19.23cladhaireThere are 34,000 symbols in my global environment
23:19.32Maldiviaid: nope
23:19.35id`ok
23:19.54cladhaireMaldivia: its for heals and damage, etc.
23:19.54id`too bad that when you move the minimap out of the screen it tries to draw where it cant and wow crashes
23:19.55id`;P
23:19.58id`like with WorldFrame
23:19.58cladhaireeveryfin
23:20.15id`have to careful with visor ;D
23:20.18id`be*
23:20.28Maldiviaid: it does? is that new to 1.9?
23:20.38id`it did in 1.7, not sure i tried in 1.8
23:20.48id`ill try now sec
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23:20.57GaldocHey folks.
23:21.32Maldiviaid: well, when I moved my Minimap, I reversed the sign, so the minimap was outside the screen - nothing happened
23:22.07Maldiviaid`: and the durability frame, is called DurabilityFrame
23:22.14cladhaireHeyas Galdoc
23:22.35id`ok
23:22.48Maldiviaid`: and it's anchored to the Minimap, through the function UIParent_ManageRightSideFrames
23:22.52id`nothing happened indeed
23:22.55GaldocDoes anyone happen to know where one can get a tga to blp file converter?
23:23.01AnduinLotharmmm, it only crashes on windows
23:23.07id`i see
23:23.17AnduinLotharon mac it blows up the frame to be the size of the screen
23:23.24MaldiviaGaldoc: why do you need to convert it to blp ?
23:23.48GaldocWell ... I thought that was the file format understood by discord art.
23:23.56AnduinLotharsame if you drag the character or pet paper doll frame off screen
23:24.12MaldiviaGaldoc: the game can read tga just fine - so can DAB
23:24.13id`i know that song from somewhere
23:24.17id`maybe gundam seed
23:24.19id`:p
23:24.22MaldiviaDART*
23:24.49Galdoc*nods* Ah, okay. :)
23:25.27Maldiviajust remember when you reference the textures, not to include the extension
23:26.04Galdoc*nods8
23:26.06GaldocCool.
23:26.13id`somehow i am unable to move my minimap
23:26.15id`<PROTECTED>
23:26.16id`:|
23:26.26Guillotinedoes anyone know the name of that website where you can get usernames/passwords for most sites so you don't have to register?
23:26.34id`bugmenot?
23:26.37id`or something?
23:26.44Guillotinethat was it!
23:26.46Guillotinety!
23:26.48id`np!
23:26.56Guillotine<#
23:26.56id`:)
23:26.58id`<#
23:26.59Guillotine<3*
23:27.02id`<3*
23:27.05Maldiviaid`: hmm, I've always just move the MinimapCluster, never got moving Minimap to work
23:27.05Guillotinelol
23:27.07id`;D
23:27.15id`Maldivia, same on the cluster
23:27.15id`:|
23:27.30id`only thing on my minimap i run is my own addon
23:27.33id`idMinimap
23:27.45id`http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/data/idMinimap-1.9-1.zip
23:27.50id`but i don't see what harm it does
23:28.12MaldiviaI have these 3 linen I run on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD:
23:28.21MaldiviaMinimapCluster:ClearAllPoints();
23:28.22MaldiviaMinimapCluster:SetPoint("TOP", UIParent, "TOP", -9, 22);
23:28.22MaldiviaMinimapCluster:SetScale(0.9);
23:28.35Maldiviaworks fine for me
23:28.40id`hm,
23:28.42id`k
23:29.05id`ill leave it there for now :D
23:30.27id`setting up some simple script to promote visor a bit ;P
23:35.06Maldiviayou have Titan Panel installed - it might want to move your minimap...
23:35.18AnduinLotharright. i have a patch for that
23:35.38AnduinLotharbut yo'll have to move it manually
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23:35.46MaldiviaAnduinLothar: do return true; in the beginning of a few functions works fine :)
23:36.44AnduinLotharwell, mine at least checks if the "don't move frames" options are enabled before returning
23:36.54Maldiviahehe
23:37.02Maldiviawell, I just want it not to :)
23:37.18AnduinLotharand why would u use a do statement..
23:38.28Maldiviabecause return has to be at the end of a block
23:38.49Maldiviaand do return end;
23:38.55Maldivianot do return true :)
23:39.36AnduinLotharah, right
23:39.54id`How does this look for a 'default'ish script to set up for visor?
23:39.55id`http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/gfx/wow/WoWScrnShot_011306_003827.jpg
23:39.58id`(bottomleft)
23:40.23AnduinLotharminimal
23:40.40id`i forgot the buttons that open the panels, arse
23:40.43id`:(
23:41.00id`AnduinLothar, but besides that, does it 'replace' the mainmenubar?
23:41.32AnduinLotharyou'r missing a few elements, but i spose titan has log o meter
23:41.48Maldivialatency...
23:41.59id`who needs that ;P
23:42.14AnduinLotharalso missing up down arrows on the main action bar
23:42.24id`there is none, it doesnt flip
23:42.59AnduinLotharso... why?
23:43.18AnduinLotharyou count do that with MF+VisOpts minus makign the bags vertical
23:43.21AnduinLotharcould*
23:43.33AnduinLotharbut w/e
23:43.36AnduinLotharnot my style
23:43.48AnduinLotharbut if it works for you, go for it
23:43.50id`why should it, you have enough skills to fill 72 buttons?
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23:44.09AnduinLotharI use 2 side bars as well
23:44.22id`if 30 isnt enough for you, you can change one character to add a line
23:44.25id`l)
23:44.26id`;)
23:44.37id`(a line fo buttons)
23:45.34AnduinLotharwell you jsut asked if it replaces the main bar
23:45.48id`ya ok
23:45.55AnduinLotharso the answer is no, if doesn't have all the features. but for a minimalist it should be ok
23:46.44id`im le tired
23:46.47AnduinLotharthat font on the player/pet frame is humerous tho
23:46.57AnduinLotharwhy even have the bars
23:47.09AnduinLotharjust make it an icon with #'s
23:47.17id`i don't, i still have to install an addon for that
23:47.23Maldiviaid`: I have 6 bars of 12 buttons... a total of 4 buttons are free
23:47.35id`the font is Myriad Web from Fontabulous
23:47.45AnduinLotharit's huge
23:48.06id`yeah
23:48.08id`nice and fat
23:48.21AnduinLotharand yes, I have 5 bars full and i frequently find myself replacing things
23:48.40id`you crazy lvl 60's :O
23:48.45AnduinLotharnow that i have ItemRack for items and trinkets tho it's nto as full
23:48.46TainThere aren't enough easily reachable keybindings for that many buttons.
23:49.02TainOr at least easily rememberable.
23:49.15AnduinLothari dont use keybindings for anythign but the first two bars
23:49.35AnduinLothartho i have a 3rd side bar bound, i just dont use um
23:49.37Tainoh
23:50.03TainI don't think I ever click on action buttons.  Pretty much everything is a key.
23:50.27AnduinLotharso main abr is #'s 2nd bar is shift-#'s left side bar is shift-control-#'s
23:50.55MaldiviaTain: 3 bars, each with two pages. A key to switch page, and then none/shift/control + 1-0
23:51.03id`Tain, you know how a bar 'appears' ont he default bar if you want to drag an item on/off and you set the option to always show off?
23:51.17OsagasuOkay, odd
23:51.25id`when you drag something on a VisorActionButton it becomes 65% visible
23:51.28id`;\
23:51.30OsagasuIt says the Trade Skill UI can't be loaded
23:52.02AnduinLotharleft side bar is mostly blessings + res + LoH + DI  but my blessings are mostly handles automaticly with eithe DivineBlessing or AQ_BuffBot
23:52.05MaldiviaOsagasu: shutdown wow, delete the blizzard folders in Addons, and start wow
23:52.07TainWhat becomes 65% visible
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23:52.20id`http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/gfx/wow/WoWScrnShot_011306_005140.jpg
23:52.30id`thats how i'd fill my bar right now ;P
23:52.33OsagasuI'm doing that right now
23:52.36Osagasudoesn't make it less wierd
23:52.46id`+ see the difference between the cisor buttons and the pet button thats empty
23:52.50id`visor*
23:53.13id`just something i wanted to point out, doesnt bug me
23:53.21AnduinLotharno wonder u need huge #'s ur scale is tiny
23:53.25TainYeah, never noticed.
23:53.42AnduinLothar<PROTECTED>
23:53.54id`.64
23:54.01id`1680x1050 resolution
23:54.15id`huge numbers? what's huge?
23:54.17AnduinLotharya, that's what res im on
23:54.21id`nice
23:54.51id`oh the font, yeah
23:54.51AnduinLothari used to use .8 scale before 1.9 now i use .9
23:54.52id`:)
23:55.39id`how do i manually set it?
23:55.43AnduinLotharthat "Boots of Travel" icon on visor on ur screen is miniscule..
23:56.06AnduinLotharUIParent:SetScale(.8)
23:56.15id`thats drain soul, i think o_O
23:56.37AnduinLotharsure? looks like the fire boots
23:57.36id`hm
23:57.41id`.9 i actually like that
23:57.43id`:O
23:57.52id`not really
23:58.00id`http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/gfx/wow/WoWScrnShot_011306_005706.jpg
23:58.03id`heres at .9
23:58.28AnduinLotharya, i'd nerf the player frame font tho
23:58.45id`i wont use the default unit frames
23:58.47AnduinLotharI think i use size 13 GameFontNormal
23:58.56id`they suck :P
23:59.03id`i want mine in the middle of my screen, under my toon
23:59.11id`and the action buttons under that
23:59.14AnduinLotharthat's where i put mine
23:59.37AnduinLotharill take a screenie
23:59.49id`im going to bed in a few then
23:59.55id`bwiffing my fweef

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