| 00:00.42 | krka | yeah I know :) |
| 00:00.46 | krka | I made one of those addons myself |
| 00:00.48 | krka | my first one actually |
| 00:01.16 | krka | of like... two total :P |
| 00:05.22 | GenNMX | I'm getting bored teaching myself WoW's XML API, so I think I'll go back to strict Lua. I was thinking of a mod which gives a combat summary during and after combat, and allows tracking of yourself and others. Possibly even syncing. |
| 00:06.31 | GenNMX | Myh plan is to greatly improve, and hopefully eliminate, the "Combat Log" window. |
| 00:20.19 | Tem | Cairenn: |
| 00:20.21 | krka | hmm... can I hook into UIParent_OnUpdate or something similar? |
| 00:20.22 | Cairenn | Tem: |
| 00:20.26 | krka | to avoid having to need XML |
| 00:20.32 | Tem | In the FAQ, you have a link to a thread that no longer exists |
| 00:20.48 | Cairenn | which section, which thread |
| 00:20.57 | Tem | Your like to "Is a ui mod ever considered a hack" |
| 00:21.09 | Tem | section 3 |
| 00:21.25 | Cairenn | changes |
| 00:21.31 | Cairenn | s/s/d/ |
| 00:21.57 | Tem | you lost your "A" |
| 00:23.47 | krka | can anyone check for a blizzard-defined OnUpdate? |
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| 00:26.48 | Tem | Theres one in WolrdFrame |
| 00:29.01 | krka | heh, this addon is really slim, 56 lines |
| 00:32.14 | Tem | please don't tell me you hooked an OnUpdate |
| 00:32.38 | krka | yup! |
| 00:32.57 | Tem | ~whaleslap krka |
| 00:32.59 | purl | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap krka over the head with it..... |
| 00:33.18 | Tem | that is /very/ bad |
| 00:33.37 | krka | i think it's badness is overrated |
| 00:33.38 | Tem | OnUpdates are bad enough, hooking makes it horrible |
| 00:34.10 | Tem | hang on a sec, let me find cladhaire's profiling of hooks and how they affect the time to call a function |
| 00:34.51 | krka | sure |
| 00:34.51 | GenNMX | krka: Sure, your action may add 50 milliseconds to the OnUpdate, but if there are 50 OnUpdate calls a second, that's an increase of 2500 milliseconds, or 2.5 seconds! |
| 00:35.28 | Tem | PROFILE: Timing for Baseline took 12.324 seconds (0.049296 average) with 50500 KiB of memory usage |
| 00:35.28 | Tem | PROFILE: Timing for StdSafe took 18.628 seconds (0.074512 average) with 50500 KiB of memory usage |
| 00:35.40 | GenNMX | OnUpdate is near the start of the dominos |
| 00:35.44 | krka | exactly what is compared there? |
| 00:35.55 | Tem | Baseline is the unhooked function |
| 00:36.01 | Tem | and StdSafe is a normal hook |
| 00:36.15 | krka | so it's faster if I define my own frame and use that OnUpdate? |
| 00:36.18 | Tem | yes |
| 00:36.29 | krka | I guess I'll do that then |
| 00:36.43 | krka | thanks for the benchmark |
| 00:37.34 | Tem | local f = CreateFrame("Frame") f:SetScript("OnUpdate",myOnUpdate) |
| 00:37.36 | Tem | god I can't wait |
| 00:37.47 | krka | heh |
| 00:37.55 | krka | what happens when f goes out of scope though? |
| 00:38.05 | krka | are frames garbage collected? |
| 00:38.25 | krka | otherwise, lazy addon coders creating frames and forgetting them... |
| 00:38.46 | Tain | No, it would appear that frames are not garbage collected. |
| 00:39.04 | Kiliek | he said they're not removable and it doesn't sound like they're gc'd so ... |
| 00:39.12 | Kiliek | scary ! |
| 00:39.24 | Tain | heh heh |
| 00:39.28 | Tain | for i=1,1000 do createframe("Boom"..i) end |
| 00:39.32 | Kiliek | yeah |
| 00:39.36 | Kiliek | i'll do that for fun once 1.10 hits |
| 00:39.41 | Kiliek | just to see what my computer does :/ |
| 00:39.59 | Tain | oh no I just thought of something |
| 00:40.09 | Tain | Now people can put pop-up ads in their addons! |
| 00:40.24 | Kiliek | haha |
| 00:40.46 | Tain | I'm going to start work on a WoW pop-up blocker addon now. |
| 00:41.11 | Kiliek | hooking create frame for an acceptable list of mods to allow pop ups !? |
| 00:42.07 | krka | and pop ups isn't possible now? |
| 00:42.25 | Tain | Quiet krka, you're ruining my funny. |
| 00:42.37 | krka | btw, 1000 frames is nothing |
| 00:42.43 | Tain | Quiet krka, you're ruining my funny. |
| 00:42.52 | krka | that's how many points AutoTravel had access to |
| 00:42.59 | krka | (and lines) |
| 00:43.09 | krka | (and yes, i generated the xml with python :P) |
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| 00:54.00 | AnduinLothar | morning |
| 00:54.13 | krka | morning? it's night |
| 00:54.30 | AnduinLothar | i woke up an hour ago, that count? |
| 00:55.00 | Cairenn | aye |
| 00:55.32 | Cairenn | sounds like "morning" to me :) |
| 00:55.37 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 00:56.01 | AnduinLothar | lan party went till 10, then i bailed for sleep |
| 00:56.05 | pagefault | the guy did not apply the cheese to the center of the burger |
| 00:57.26 | Depherios | the cheese stands alone |
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| 01:03.39 | Cairenn | lol Depherios |
| 01:05.57 | pagefault | I suppose so |
| 01:06.11 | pagefault | the cheese is now devoured |
| 01:15.04 | futrtrubl | behold the power of cheese |
| 01:15.16 | pagefault | I have a slight cheese addiction |
| 01:15.30 | futrtrubl | my addiction is not so slight |
| 01:15.31 | AnduinLothar | cheese is good |
| 01:15.45 | AnduinLothar | so is my shift that says "more cowbell" |
| 01:15.48 | AnduinLothar | shirt* |
| 01:17.15 | futrtrubl | ~cheese |
| 01:17.17 | purl | rumour has it, cheese is stuff that grows in milk |
| 01:17.49 | pagefault | I am sure the taurrens are responsible for most of the cheese in WoW |
| 01:17.52 | pagefault | err taurens |
| 01:18.19 | pagefault | yet you can't buy any in TB |
| 01:18.24 | futrtrubl | Time to make the <Tauren Milker> guild |
| 01:18.50 | pagefault | taurens are neat, I hope the alliance gets some kind of animalish type race |
| 01:19.07 | krka | it will be ogres |
| 01:19.19 | pagefault | I thought ogres were on the horde's side |
| 01:19.34 | Depherios | I'm hoping for Draeni, I like the way their legs work XD |
| 01:19.44 | futrtrubl | Murlocs, why do you think babies were given out? They grow up to be Alliance mebers (yeah, there is some logic in there) |
| 01:20.02 | Cairenn | my money is on Draenei |
| 01:20.04 | pagefault | don't feed the murloc |
| 01:20.19 | futrtrubl | after midnight |
| 01:20.29 | Cairenn | don't let them get wet, either |
| 01:20.47 | futrtrubl | we are screwed then |
| 01:21.09 | Cairenn | getting screwed isn't such a bad thing, ya know ;) |
| 01:21.26 | pagefault | it's all a matter of perspective |
| 01:21.30 | AnduinLothar | who wants to screw me? |
| 01:21.37 | futrtrubl | depends in what fashion you are screwed ;'] |
| 01:21.37 | AnduinLothar | wait.. no.. not this crowd |
| 01:22.00 | Cairenn | *wink* |
| 01:22.35 | futrtrubl | I would rather not be screwed by a pack of murloc Gremlins. |
| 01:22.44 | GenNMX | I'm still going with High Elves. |
| 01:22.47 | Cairenn | agreed |
| 01:23.09 | GenNMX | IRC makes you agree with things you'd rather not ;) |
| 01:23.20 | futrtrubl | High Elves (Blood Elves) are horde |
| 01:23.39 | GenNMX | Blood Elves != High Elves. There are over 100,000 High Elves still part of the Alliance. |
| 01:23.55 | pagefault | they eat too many of those mushrooms |
| 01:23.58 | pagefault | thats why they are high elves |
| 01:24.05 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:24.20 | futrtrubl | we must be reading diferent mythology GenNMX ;'] |
| 01:24.27 | GenNMX | Exactly pagefault, exactly. And if they overdose, they get "blood rage". |
| 01:24.34 | Depherios | high elves dislike the alliance now though |
| 01:24.41 | Depherios | well some |
| 01:24.42 | Depherios | many |
| 01:25.03 | Depherios | the only allies working with humans as far as I was aware, weren't party of the alliance |
| 01:25.11 | Depherios | err |
| 01:25.13 | futrtrubl | Pansy Elves will be the new race |
| 01:25.13 | pagefault | why can't everyone just get along |
| 01:25.18 | pagefault | that would be a great game |
| 01:25.32 | Depherios | The only high elves working with humans as far as I was aware. The humans weren't part of the alliance |
| 01:25.34 | GenNMX | World Of Friendcraft? |
| 01:25.41 | Depherios | World of Peacecraft |
| 01:25.41 | pagefault | yep |
| 01:25.47 | pagefault | you level up by being friendly with eachother |
| 01:25.52 | AnduinLothar | World of Screwcraft |
| 01:25.53 | pagefault | and you shoot hearts out of your belly |
| 01:26.01 | Depherios | CAREBEARS |
| 01:26.10 | GenNMX | But the Humans are the pinnacle of the Alliance. This could be some forgotten High Elf tribe that didn't turn into the Blood Elves. |
| 01:26.18 | GenNMX | Maybe they're the Hillbilly Elves |
| 01:26.31 | Depherios | there's a lot of high elves that aren't blood elves |
| 01:26.33 | futrtrubl | World of Statecraft, it's all about the diplomacy. Granted Orc diplomacy is a spiked club |
| 01:26.38 | Depherios | they just dislike the alliance, after the alliance screwed them |
| 01:26.56 | pagefault | I would dislike the alliance too if they tried to screw me |
| 01:27.04 | Depherios | That's troll diplomacy futrtrubl |
| 01:27.22 | GenNMX | Depherios -- I can't believe the Blood Elves will have good relations with the Undead, Orcs, or Trolls, yet they're joining the Horde |
| 01:27.26 | Depherios | orcs are free from the demons, they're like humans now, weak and nice XD |
| 01:27.38 | futrtrubl | Troll diplomacy is a footlong spliff |
| 01:27.49 | Depherios | Blood Elves need to get to Outland... Orcs need to get to Outland, the Trolls will do anything the orcs want, and the Undead don't care |
| 01:28.14 | pagefault | the undead are just waiting for someone to slip up |
| 01:28.19 | Depherios | the Undead just allied with the Horde so they didn't get swamped from two sides, while they plan to destroy everything |
| 01:28.19 | pagefault | then it's party time |
| 01:28.57 | krka | there a few high elves in hinterlands I believe |
| 01:29.24 | pagefault | there is a quest in org you can get |
| 01:29.31 | pagefault | you get revenge on a high elf that this one orc had an affair with |
| 01:29.59 | Depherios | there's a LOT of elves in the..... one of the fens... I think |
| 01:30.04 | Depherios | by that one Human town |
| 01:30.12 | Depherios | they're all neutral cloaked all over |
| 01:30.22 | krka | would be silly to have night elves, blood elves and high elves |
| 01:30.25 | Tain | The only good elf is a dead elf. |
| 01:30.30 | Depherios | agreed tain |
| 01:30.31 | Depherios | agreed |
| 01:30.51 | pagefault | nude patch! |
| 01:30.56 | krka | better than naked taurens |
| 01:31.06 | futrtrubl | ;'] nude murlocs |
| 01:31.33 | futrtrubl | pescafilia |
| 01:32.00 | pagefault | he likes the big mouths |
| 01:32.04 | pagefault | oops did I say that? |
| 01:32.08 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 01:33.25 | Depherios | ...no? |
| 01:33.48 | GenNMX | Do the nude Taurens have udders? |
| 01:33.49 | pagefault | it was the wind |
| 01:34.10 | pagefault | I don't think so |
| 01:34.21 | Depherios | no |
| 01:34.21 | pagefault | or they wouldn't be wearing a bikini |
| 01:34.43 | Depherios | yes... they'd have a.... something |
| 01:34.45 | GenNMX | I don't think Tauren women wear a bikini, it looked like granny pants to me |
| 01:34.50 | AnduinLothar | udders aren't sexy |
| 01:34.56 | AnduinLothar | enough |
| 01:34.56 | Depherios | udder pouch thing |
| 01:34.59 | pagefault | drawers? |
| 01:35.19 | GenNMX | Wait |
| 01:35.35 | pagefault | they have custom underwear for their tails |
| 01:35.36 | GenNMX | They don't need udders, just multiple nipples |
| 01:35.38 | krka | they are udderly hot! |
| 01:36.03 | krka | they take hotness to a whole udder level |
| 01:36.14 | Tain | That's bull |
| 01:36.19 | pagefault | this channel's score: 0/10 |
| 01:36.24 | GenNMX | You can say their anthromorphism allows for human-like nipples, but still they should have 3 per breast |
| 01:36.31 | Depherios | they have multiple nipples really close together? XD |
| 01:36.36 | Depherios | yes! you have it GenNMX |
| 01:36.51 | pagefault | why would they need more than what they have |
| 01:36.57 | Tain | They just get them removed at birth. |
| 01:37.00 | pagefault | how many babies does a tauren have at once? |
| 01:37.03 | GenNMX | How do you know what they have, pagefault? |
| 01:37.05 | Tain | It's like circumcision. |
| 01:37.28 | pagefault | GenNMX, I don't know, I don't want to know :) |
| 01:37.55 | krka | my characters never even knew their parents :( |
| 01:38.14 | pagefault | oh wow |
| 01:38.18 | pagefault | I have a present under the tree |
| 01:39.04 | pagefault | it would be nice if you got clothes for xmas in WoW |
| 01:39.08 | pagefault | then they would be useful |
| 01:39.12 | futrtrubl | anyone know anyone that's won a gfx card from Blizz? |
| 01:45.00 | pagefault | nope |
| 01:55.31 | geometrix | wheres Iriel to start the 1.10 Upcomming Changes thread |
| 01:56.01 | futrtrubl | in England |
| 01:56.27 | geometrix | thats no excuse! |
| 01:56.28 | geometrix | ;) |
| 01:56.30 | pagefault | the queen should play WoW |
| 01:56.44 | Depherios | England has the intarweb! ^_^ |
| 01:56.56 | futrtrubl | mmmm... dynamic frames |
| 01:57.01 | pagefault | web is good |
| 01:57.18 | futrtrubl | not that I'd use them in my mods... but still very nice |
| 01:57.20 | Depherios | web is civilization |
| 01:57.32 | pagefault | I wonder how fast |
| 01:57.38 | futrtrubl | TEH intarweb |
| 01:57.55 | pagefault | I hope it doesn't add more loading time |
| 01:59.11 | Tain | How could it? |
| 01:59.13 | Cairenn | geometrix: Iriel had already started the 1.10 thread, and a bunch of alskjdflkjadskflaskleriu7q309487134 decided to turn it into something other than the intended, so Slouken deleted it |
| 01:59.18 | Tain | They don't exist when you load. |
| 01:59.22 | futrtrubl | if it's happening OnLoad then they shouldn't be dynamic. If it's happening after savedvar load then it may cause a lag spike right after you get in the game |
| 01:59.32 | geometrix | Cairenn, damn them! |
| 01:59.44 | pagefault | thats what I meant, futrtrubl |
| 02:00.21 | futrtrubl | fortunately it won't cause you to disconect on load though |
| 02:00.23 | Tain | Only one way to find out! |
| 02:00.36 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:00.38 | futrtrubl | where's the 1.10 test server!?! |
| 02:00.39 | pagefault | that drives me nuts |
| 02:01.12 | pagefault | I guess it means 1.9 is stable pretty much now |
| 02:01.17 | pagefault | if they are working on 1.10 already |
| 02:01.46 | futrtrubl | all I want in an upcoming patch is the PLAYER_LEVEL_UP event to be moved to after the player levels up |
| 02:01.55 | pagefault | I want to try fighting the new pally |
| 02:03.33 | futrtrubl | wow, that addon control pannel thread is hostile |
| 02:03.36 | geometrix | 1.9 next week I bet... |
| 02:03.46 | pagefault | I get my shard bag#@$@#$ |
| 02:03.47 | geometrix | only reason it wasnt last or this week is the holiday |
| 02:31.36 | groll | hmms anyone know anything about php nuke? |
| 02:44.49 | pagefault | I know of it |
| 02:45.02 | pagefault | a lot of people are using phpBB2 now though |
| 02:45.12 | pagefault | so they can have forums too |
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| 02:45.32 | *** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 02:45.36 | Kaelten | hi |
| 02:45.52 | Kolth | Heyas, Kaelten! |
| 02:45.52 | pagefault | hello |
| 02:46.11 | Kaelten | anyone here fairly familar with linux? |
| 02:46.21 | pagefault | I am |
| 02:46.31 | Kaelten | ok. I know what I need to do, I juujst don't know how to do it. |
| 02:47.02 | Kaelten | what I need to do is to uninstall the current copy of BerkeleyDB4 and then recompile it so it doesn't need Posix Locking support from the kernal |
| 02:47.05 | Kaelten | then reinstall |
| 02:47.13 | pagefault | wow |
| 02:47.24 | Kaelten | any ideas? |
| 02:47.31 | pagefault | ok usually to uninstall it you can run make uninstall |
| 02:47.48 | pagefault | not all programs support that though |
| 02:47.51 | Kaelten | ok, I do have root access within bash on this vps |
| 02:48.05 | pagefault | if it doesn't have remove facilities it's hard to remove it |
| 02:48.08 | Kaelten | I think this one does. I juujst have to figure out where to run the program from. |
| 02:48.21 | Kaelten | I saw some info about that command in the documentation. |
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| 02:50.09 | Kaelten | hmm says no rule to make target uninstall |
| 02:50.33 | pagefault | hmm |
| 02:50.45 | pagefault | you might have to overwrite the old one |
| 02:51.10 | pagefault | if it's the same program you are recompiling and installing |
| 02:51.11 | pagefault | it will be fine |
| 02:51.26 | pagefault | just make sure all of it's processes are stopped |
| 02:51.58 | Kaelten | k, can you tell me how to do that? |
| 02:52.10 | pagefault | type ps aux |
| 02:52.14 | Kaelten | I'm a linux noob |
| 02:52.22 | pagefault | and kill -9 the PID number of the db |
| 02:52.23 | Cairenn | hey Kaelten :) |
| 02:52.25 | pagefault | if it's running |
| 02:52.36 | pagefault | I am not familiar with that DB so I have no idea what the process if any is |
| 02:52.46 | pagefault | I only know mysql myself |
| 02:53.03 | Kaelten | I don't see it running. |
| 02:53.09 | Kaelten | hey Cair. |
| 02:53.13 | pagefault | ok then |
| 02:53.19 | pagefault | then it should be safe to compile it |
| 02:53.32 | Griddlebone | Evening all. |
| 02:53.34 | Kaelten | big question is how am I going to make it compile without that other thing. |
| 02:53.52 | pagefault | the documentation should have an option you pass to configure |
| 02:53.54 | pagefault | that will disable it |
| 02:54.11 | Kaelten | hmm, I'll see if I can find it. |
| 02:54.24 | Kaelten | ya this is some kinda of native xml database program |
| 02:55.02 | Kaelten | www.sleepycat.com |
| 02:55.07 | Kaelten | is the group that makes it. |
| 02:55.14 | pagefault | i'll try to find some docs |
| 02:55.33 | Kaelten | ../dist/configure |
| 02:55.33 | Kaelten | make |
| 02:55.44 | pagefault | thats it? |
| 02:55.47 | Kaelten | do those two commands make sense? |
| 02:55.51 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:55.57 | Kaelten | well its the instructions on a standard build |
| 02:55.58 | pagefault | but that will configure and make with default options |
| 02:56.07 | pagefault | which probably you don't want? |
| 02:56.16 | pagefault | POSIX locking support may be enabled by default? |
| 02:56.17 | Kaelten | not sure |
| 02:56.19 | pagefault | did you compile the original one? |
| 02:56.25 | Kaelten | no it was included by redhat |
| 02:56.29 | pagefault | oh |
| 02:56.34 | Kaelten | problem is my host uses a non standard redhat kernel |
| 02:56.35 | pagefault | you are running redhat? |
| 02:56.42 | Kaelten | I think its based off of redhat. |
| 02:56.43 | pagefault | this changes things |
| 02:56.48 | Cairenn | MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 02:56.53 | Cairenn | ~timriker |
| 02:56.54 | purl | i heard timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 02:56.54 | pagefault | if it is installed from a package then we can just remove it |
| 02:56.57 | pagefault | and add a new package |
| 02:56.58 | pagefault | RPM files |
| 02:57.04 | Cairenn | MentalPower|ZZzz: TimRiker on freenode, or one of those email addresses |
| 02:57.11 | Kaelten | if I can find a package without the posix locking support |
| 02:57.18 | pagefault | rpmfind.net |
| 02:57.57 | MentalPower|ZZzz | thanks Cairenn! |
| 02:58.01 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 02:58.13 | Kaelten | ok how do I remove rpm? rpm --remove db4? |
| 02:58.15 | Kaelten | or is it harder? |
| 02:58.16 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:58.21 | pagefault | thats all |
| 02:58.41 | pagefault | or just get the source package |
| 02:58.43 | pagefault | and use rpm --rebuild |
| 02:58.46 | pagefault | it will compile from source |
| 02:58.49 | pagefault | and make a binary package |
| 02:59.09 | pagefault | that should compile it for your kernel |
| 02:59.17 | Kaelten | says --remove is an unknown option |
| 02:59.26 | pagefault | maybe --uninstall |
| 02:59.31 | pagefault | i'm a debian user :) |
| 02:59.47 | pagefault | I think you need to use --remove and db4<version> |
| 03:00.03 | Kaelten | no uninstall option |
| 03:00.27 | pagefault | or try wildcard |
| 03:00.29 | pagefault | db4* |
| 03:01.08 | End | ok, I gotta say, I'm excited about userdata. :) |
| 03:01.10 | End | er |
| 03:01.13 | End | dynamic frames |
| 03:01.26 | End | ok, I gotta say, I'm excited about dynamic frames. :) |
| 03:04.02 | Kaelten | I still can't find the option to uninstall |
| 03:04.24 | pagefault | we need to figure out the rpm package name so we can remove it |
| 03:04.25 | pagefault | hrm |
| 03:04.52 | Kaelten | db4 |
| 03:04.57 | Kaelten | thats the name |
| 03:05.05 | Tain | rpm -e pkgname |
| 03:05.15 | pagefault | ah yay someone who knows how to use rpm |
| 03:05.38 | Tain | oh and do uh -v for verbose so you can see what's goin on just in case |
| 03:06.33 | Kaelten | cool |
| 03:06.43 | Kaelten | ok now I found 67 different rpms |
| 03:06.54 | End | I always do rm -rfv so I can panic and see my system be destroyed before my eyes (assuming I'm root, otherwise just all my important data) |
| 03:07.18 | Tain | To install from oh rpmfind.net? That place is confusing. Useful, but confusing. |
| 03:07.40 | End | hmm, Draka appears to have a large queue |
| 03:07.59 | Kaelten | ok now if I grab one for the wrong core will it blow up too bad? |
| 03:08.01 | pagefault | yeah but get a source rpm |
| 03:08.08 | pagefault | so you can rebuild it |
| 03:08.25 | Tain | Not necessarily. Most of the time there's just a bunch of different versions of rpms for different versions of RedHat. |
| 03:08.40 | pagefault | the issue was though he has a different kernel and he is running redhat |
| 03:08.47 | pagefault | and he needs to recompile with some kernel option off |
| 03:09.08 | Kaelten | ok where do I get the source rpm? |
| 03:09.11 | pagefault | those binary packages might have the same problem |
| 03:09.30 | Kaelten | ones that say src in the title? |
| 03:09.40 | Tain | I know, pagefault. But there's still 40 different versions on rpmfind |
| 03:09.51 | Tain | Yes Kaelten. |
| 03:09.51 | pagefault | ah |
| 03:10.15 | pagefault | just trying to be thoughtful |
| 03:10.17 | Kaelten | ok question, is there a way to get it to transfer directly from the server or juujst have rpm install it? |
| 03:10.20 | Tain | If you think it's RedHat my best guess would be, "Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 sources for i386" |
| 03:10.36 | pagefault | I don't know |
| 03:10.40 | Kaelten | well its redhat but nto a redhat kernel |
| 03:10.40 | pagefault | I think they are usually downloaded firt |
| 03:10.42 | pagefault | err first |
| 03:11.21 | Tain | Yeah what will happen is RPM will download and install the source files. |
| 03:11.27 | Tain | It won't compile for you (I don't think.) |
| 03:11.40 | Tain | It's actually been years since I used rpm. |
| 03:11.42 | pagefault | rpm --rebuild |
| 03:11.50 | pagefault | it will compile a src package |
| 03:11.51 | pagefault | and make a binary |
| 03:11.57 | Tain | There you go! :) |
| 03:12.19 | Kaelten | ok what command do I give it to? |
| 03:12.26 | Kaelten | get the rpm from this other webstie? |
| 03:12.34 | pagefault | rpm --rebuild blah.rpm |
| 03:12.44 | Cairenn | b4youdie |
| 03:12.47 | Kaelten | just give it the full directory on the other site? |
| 03:12.49 | Cairenn | b4youdie |
| 03:12.55 | Cairenn | grrrrrrrrrrr, lol |
| 03:13.10 | pagefault | Kaelten, I think so I don't know if RPM downloads, try |
| 03:14.27 | Kaelten | ok it worked but it failed to build dependencies |
| 03:14.39 | pagefault | that means you need additional stuff to compile it |
| 03:15.00 | pagefault | you have to install all those packages that are missing |
| 03:15.12 | pagefault | you would have needed them if you compiled from a tarball as well |
| 03:15.40 | Kaelten | hmm needs java weird. |
| 03:15.41 | Griddlebone | Anyone have a moment to help me with a WoW addon problem? I've a mistake somewhere that is (likely) so incredibly simple/silly that I can't spot it. |
| 03:16.37 | Kolth | You can always let us have a go at it :) |
| 03:16.49 | Griddlebone | Thank you Kolth. ^_^ |
| 03:17.17 | Griddlebone | The error on game load that I get is: <eof> expected near 'end' |
| 03:17.35 | Griddlebone | And I'm getting it in a file that only contains the following: |
| 03:17.43 | Griddlebone | MyMenubarOnLoad() |
| 03:17.43 | Griddlebone | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.43 | Griddlebone | end |
| 03:17.53 | End | try adding a function |
| 03:17.55 | Kolth | rewrite line 1 |
| 03:18.00 | Kolth | function MyMenubarOnLoad() |
| 03:18.04 | End | like function MyMenubarOnLoad() |
| 03:18.05 | End | yea |
| 03:18.18 | Kolth | Funny that <End> is here to help :) |
| 03:18.24 | Kolth | (being the error he was getting) |
| 03:18.31 | Griddlebone | ........ I feel really stupid now. TOTALLY missed the 'function' statement. -_-;; |
| 03:18.42 | Kolth | Grid: I've done it, most of us have. |
| 03:18.54 | Kolth | Feel... Part of the club :) |
| 03:18.57 | End | it -thinks- you are saying: call MyMenubarOnLoad(), now call MainMenuBar:Hide();, end wtf? :P |
| 03:19.00 | End | hehe |
| 03:19.40 | Griddlebone | Thank you all. ^_^; |
| 03:19.42 | Kaelten | what does -devel stand for? |
| 03:19.44 | Kolth | Sure thang. |
| 03:19.48 | Kolth | That's what this channel is for! |
| 03:19.51 | End | np |
| 03:19.57 | End | Kaelton: in this case probably headers for a library |
| 03:20.09 | End | and whatnot |
| 03:20.27 | End | so you can compile stuff that uses it |
| 03:20.29 | Tain | Yeah, generally if you were developing your own programs from scratch to modify the program. |
| 03:20.37 | Tain | Or to interact with it |
| 03:22.11 | Kaelten | ah |
| 03:22.26 | Kaelten | this is a pain in the ass, lol |
| 03:22.55 | pagefault | yep |
| 03:23.45 | Kaelten | not to mention I can't paste into this horrible ssh client cpanel makes me use |
| 03:24.04 | Kaelten | how can I check what version of tcl is installed? |
| 03:25.10 | pagefault | tcl --version |
| 03:27.32 | Kaelten | why does --version never work for me |
| 03:27.47 | pagefault | maybe it's -v |
| 03:28.14 | Kaelten | nope nope and nope... |
| 03:28.22 | End | try running tclsh and typing: echo $tcl_patchLevel |
| 03:28.34 | Tain | You can also try rpm -q tcl* which should tell you everything rpm has installed. |
| 03:28.59 | Kaelten | 8.3.5 |
| 03:29.02 | Kaelten | woot thanks end |
| 03:29.06 | End | np |
| 03:29.24 | pagefault | thunderbird 1.5 is out |
| 03:29.33 | pagefault | at least I auto-updated |
| 03:29.36 | pagefault | the site isn't updated yet |
| 03:32.12 | Kaelten | arg now a dependency's dependency isn't there arg! |
| 03:32.27 | End | :-( |
| 03:32.39 | End | welcome to dependency hell? |
| 03:33.14 | Kaelten | damnit why can't they automatically grab dependency |
| 03:33.27 | Kaelten | if I Coiuld copy and paste it would be a lot easier |
| 03:33.42 | End | was it yum? |
| 03:34.52 | End | you were running fedora right? see if you have the yum command installed |
| 03:35.11 | Kaelten | nope |
| 03:35.13 | Kaelten | no yum |
| 03:35.15 | Kaelten | whats yum? |
| 03:35.20 | End | I -think- that's what fedora has been having lately...or maybe not |
| 03:35.41 | Tem|Dinner | up2date |
| 03:36.47 | Kaelten | whats up2date? |
| 03:39.44 | Tem|Dinner | up2date is one of the linux update apps |
| 03:39.56 | Tem|Dinner | I think it's the one fedora uses |
| 03:40.03 | Kaelten | how do I use it? |
| 03:40.11 | Tem|Dinner | at a terminal |
| 03:40.12 | Tem|Dinner | type |
| 03:40.14 | Tem|Dinner | up2date |
| 03:40.19 | Tem|Dinner | then walk away |
| 03:40.28 | End | I know fedora used to use it exclusively, but apparently you can somehow use apt and yum now (although I've only heard about people using yum) |
| 03:40.47 | End | (it just says you can use apt, which hmmm....) |
| 03:41.39 | Tem|Dinner | I have used yum on fedora before |
| 03:54.38 | Kaelten | I'm in hell |
| 03:57.01 | Kaelten | I'm like 5 dependency layers deep |
| 04:00.21 | pagefault | thats why I like debian |
| 04:00.24 | pagefault | it gets everything you need |
| 04:00.49 | Kaelten | I'm about to start hitting things |
| 04:00.56 | Kaelten | it wouldn't be nearly as bad if I Could just copy and paste |
| 04:02.16 | pagefault | yeah that must be tedious |
| 04:03.25 | Kaelten | ya typing out hella long file names sucks |
| 04:10.33 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Esamynn (n=jbcc@d207-216-176-153.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 04:10.46 | Esamynn | Evening all |
| 04:11.47 | Kolth | Hello! |
| 04:11.59 | Kaelten | does linux have the equivelent of a batch file? |
| 04:12.26 | pagefault | yeah a shell script |
| 04:12.33 | pagefault | just put the commands you want in a file |
| 04:12.36 | pagefault | and run sh file |
| 04:12.37 | Kolth | Shell scripts are much more powerful, eh? |
| 04:12.38 | pagefault | sh file |
| 04:12.44 | pagefault | well you can do more in them |
| 04:12.53 | pagefault | but if you want to just batch things you can do that |
| 04:12.55 | Ktron | shell scripts are way fun :) |
| 04:12.56 | Esamynn | oooohhh, I just spotted Sloukens newest present on the UI forums!!!!!! :) |
| 04:13.01 | Kolth | I also seen tons of really sweet Perl scripts. |
| 04:13.06 | Ktron | Esamynn: for 1.10? |
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| 04:13.09 | Esamynn | yes |
| 04:13.20 | Kolth | Darn good present :) |
| 04:13.35 | Kaelten | so I can write a file on my local machine and upload it and then run it by typing sh rpms |
| 04:13.45 | Ktron | Heh, I'm hoping someone makes a 'design your own ui' program that takes advantage of that, and I'm wondering if we could get a way to delete frames too |
| 04:14.23 | Esamynn | deleting frames would involve a lot more work |
| 04:14.33 | Kaelten | and also not be 100% useful. |
| 04:14.41 | Esamynn | you would need to check if anything was anchored to them, what would you do with children, etc, etc |
| 04:14.54 | Kaelten | I imagine you'd have a lto of overhead in createing and deleting frames |
| 04:14.58 | Ktron | I was thinking it'd be useful to cut away unecessary frames |
| 04:15.12 | Ktron | heh, a way to save memory |
| 04:15.20 | Esamynn | just disable said frames, the memory they take up isn't that significant |
| 04:15.25 | Ktron | rather than just hide them if you aren't going to use them again |
| 04:15.27 | Tem|Dinner | DestroyFrame(WolrdFrame) |
| 04:15.31 | Ktron | lol |
| 04:15.32 | Esamynn | that too Tem |
| 04:15.44 | Tem|Dinner | I bet that would give the rendering system fits |
| 04:16.01 | Esamynn | haha, I'm sure you could have fun with that one :) |
| 04:16.13 | Tem|Dinner | anyway, I don't think we're going to get it |
| 04:16.15 | Ktron | so, it's simple to disable us from destroying anything with children |
| 04:16.30 | Ktron | perhaps not |
| 04:17.02 | Esamynn | question, has anyone else run accross a problem with using the [] method of referencing a table in XML script tags? |
| 04:17.17 | Tem|Dinner | huh? |
| 04:17.45 | Esamynn | I was writing a short script in a <Script> tag in my xml and I discovered it was choking on the [] brackets |
| 04:18.01 | Tem|Dinner | odd' |
| 04:18.03 | Esamynn | that I was using to reference keys in a table |
| 04:18.16 | Tem|Dinner | it also doesn't like lua comments |
| 04:18.35 | Esamynn | yes it was, Firefox's parser was complaining about it too, and WoW just whined at me |
| 04:18.58 | Tem|Dinner | Oh I bet it didn't like my multi-line comment because of the "[[" in it |
| 04:19.11 | Esamynn | probably |
| 04:19.40 | Esamynn | I have a few items to test in a closed situation including a crash bug, then i'm going to post for slouken |
| 04:19.54 | Kaelten | oh god I love the sh command |
| 04:19.58 | Kaelten | I can copy paste now! |
| 04:20.06 | Kaelten | sorry I just had a personal moment <smiles> |
| 04:20.16 | Esamynn | the following call in a <OnLoad> tag crashes wow to the desktop without even an error message: this:SetPoint("BOTTOM", this:GetName().."Character10", "BOTTOM"); |
| 04:20.38 | Esamynn | and yes there is a frame named $parentCharacter10 |
| 04:21.04 | End | what is $parentCharacter10 attached to? |
| 04:21.17 | Esamynn | its a child of the frame who's onload script is running |
| 04:21.32 | End | I think this is a known bug then |
| 04:21.37 | Esamynn | oh |
| 04:21.57 | End | and I doubt you have to reproduce it in the OnLoad handler |
| 04:22.10 | End | I wish test was still up though |
| 04:22.16 | Esamynn | lets see here, through a chain, $parentCharacter10 is anchored to the TOP of its parent (the frame that is doing the call) |
| 04:22.19 | End | so I could test to see if it was fixed |
| 04:22.25 | End | er |
| 04:22.28 | Esamynn | yes, I don't understand why they didn't just leave it up |
| 04:22.28 | End | yea |
| 04:22.35 | End | I dunno |
| 04:22.39 | Esamynn | even if it was out of date |
| 04:22.49 | End | maybe they don't want to take player feedback currently? |
| 04:22.51 | Kaelten | woot something is working! |
| 04:22.52 | End | I dunno |
| 04:22.55 | End | I'm just guessing |
| 04:23.05 | Esamynn | but the mod developers.... :( |
| 04:23.19 | End | yeah, I wanted to get on test earlier to test some code |
| 04:23.22 | Kaelten | I think I'm escaping from depdenency hell |
| 04:23.35 | End | Kaelten: woot! |
| 04:23.41 | Esamynn | same, it closed the day my exams ended, so I was never able to make use of it :( |
| 04:24.18 | Esamynn | oooh, just checked test forums, heres a thread topic: Test Realms Back Online 12/21 (PLEASE READ) |
| 04:24.51 | Esamynn | I wonder if it is still up |
| 04:25.01 | End | that was for the first time they shut it down |
| 04:25.09 | End | this is the second time |
| 04:25.20 | Esamynn | oh crap, I MISSED THEM AGAIN! :( |
| 04:25.24 | Esamynn | sigh |
| 04:25.26 | End | ouch |
| 04:25.43 | Esamynn | why can't they just leave them up :( |
| 04:25.46 | End | anyways, you'll notice they posted more recently "Public Test Realms Closed" |
| 04:25.57 | Esamynn | yah, I just spotted that one |
| 04:25.59 | End | (today in fact) |
| 04:26.13 | Kaelten | they where up earlier, I was coding on them during the downtime we had earlier |
| 04:26.16 | Esamynn | yah :( |
| 04:26.27 | Esamynn | .............. %$#@^@&%$@&%$@&@*$@)$@(*&%$)(@^*%$)@^*(@)^*$#()@^()$@*%$@(&)^$@)&^$@*&^*@^*()@ |
| 04:26.41 | Esamynn | :'( |
| 04:26.58 | Esamynn | I can't believe I missed them again |
| 04:26.59 | Kolth | Spam... |
| 04:27.00 | Kolth | is bad. |
| 04:27.07 | Kolth | Charlie Brown :) |
| 04:27.18 | End | well, if it makes you feel any better, it looks like 1.9 might go live next week |
| 04:27.27 | End | or maybe that'll make you feel worse |
| 04:27.37 | End | cause that means you didn't get to test your code :P |
| 04:27.54 | Esamynn | I'm not worried about my one public addon |
| 04:28.31 | Esamynn | I wish I could have checked on the new return values from GetGuildRosterInfo though |
| 04:28.45 | Esamynn | I want to know what values status can take |
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| 04:28.58 | End | mine works with 1.9, but unfortunately I have to finish a ton of features too |
| 04:29.16 | End | or else branch it |
| 04:29.46 | Esamynn | I've got an addon i'm working on right now for my guild that depends on some 1.9 stuff, but its minor |
| 04:30.00 | End | (well, it runs "fine" with 1.9 with the currently release version, but I have a fix for a mouse scale dragging inconsistancy) |
| 04:32.08 | Kaelten | ok if it says a file conflicts with another should I tell it to force the install? |
| 04:32.35 | End | try deinstalling the other one if possible? I dunno... |
| 04:32.52 | End | :-/ |
| 04:33.13 | Kaelten | will it let you uninstall tcl |
| 04:33.36 | End | it's tcl that's conflicting? |
| 04:33.42 | Kaelten | old version with new |
| 04:33.50 | End | 8.3 with 8.4 or something? |
| 04:33.52 | Kaelten | yep |
| 04:34.05 | Kaelten | I need 8.4.5-7 and it has 8.3. somthing |
| 04:34.29 | End | eck. that bad news is, there are some decently signficant changes from 8.3 to 8.4 :-/ ..hopefully you can just deinstall 8.3 because hopefully nothing important depends on it... |
| 04:34.53 | End | I've never written any tcl, but I've used programs that worked fine with 8.3, but had troubles with 8.4 |
| 04:35.52 | End | (unfortunately, I have no idea how to make rpm tell you what depends on an rpm) |
| 04:37.39 | Esamynn | anyone here done any testing on the new status return from GetGuildRosterInfo? |
| 04:39.15 | Kaelten | oh it told me and errored out alot when I tried. |
| 04:39.41 | End | well, I dunno then |
| 04:42.05 | Esamynn | anyone mind checking some XML for me? |
| 04:42.29 | Esamynn | I'm having a problem with the game not respecting the x and y values for one of my anchors |
| 04:42.32 | Kolth | Pastbin away! |
| 04:42.46 | Kolth | Pastebin* |
| 04:42.52 | Esamynn | http://wow.pastebin.com/481168 the game is not respecting the x and y values I put in the highlighted line |
| 04:44.00 | Esamynn | I had to resort to a SetPoint call in the parents <OnLoad> script (the frame is a template btw) |
| 04:45.54 | Esamynn | sorry, for clarity, the parent of the frames I pasted is a virtual template |
| 04:47.25 | Kolth | I'm not super-sure. |
| 04:49.58 | Esamynn | End: that crash bug from earlier, is that call supposed to be valid or do you recall the fix being to generate an error? |
| 04:50.52 | Esamynn | Kolth: does that mean you have a guess? |
| 04:50.59 | Kolth | Esamynn,nope |
| 04:51.05 | Esamynn | dang |
| 04:51.30 | Kolth | I've not spent much time with XML |
| 04:51.52 | Esamynn | oh well, the onload loop might be better anyways, as there is a series of 10 frames like that which should all get the same spacing, doing it in a loop means I can change the spacing in one place |
| 04:53.00 | Tain | What exactly are you trying to set with that line, Esamynn? The AbsDimension of what? |
| 04:53.49 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Tem|Dinner (n=matt@adsl-212-53-227.lft.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:53.53 | Esamynn | it is supposed to anchor Character2 to the bottom of character 1, but if I use non-zero values for x and y, the frame is still positioned as if I had used zero for x and y |
| 04:54.56 | Esamynn | I've been getting similar problems of anchors ignoring their <AbsDimension x="0" y="0"/> in a number of places while i've been writing this Addon |
| 04:55.12 | Tain | Oh. enclosing those in <Offset> </Offset> |
| 04:55.17 | Tain | Try enclosing I mean |
| 04:55.23 | Esamynn | smack |
| 04:55.43 | Esamynn | of course |
| 04:55.47 | Esamynn | ~lart Esamynn |
| 04:55.55 | Tain | hehe |
| 04:55.56 | Esamynn | lol |
| 04:57.17 | Esamynn | hmm, I may stick with the onload loop anyways, makes it easier to adjust the spacing for them all at once |
| 04:58.12 | Tain | hehe yeah that is true |
| 04:59.22 | Esamynn | sigh, thanks for catching that, i've been swearing at that for a while |
| 04:59.50 | Tain | I only saw it because I've spent so much time swearing at xml lately myself. |
| 05:00.09 | Esamynn | heh |
| 05:00.40 | Tain | I'm never creating any kind of anything using it again. |
| 05:01.22 | Tain | I'll either use AceGUI which lets you define just the frame name and type basically in XML, and then set everything else in Lua, or just wait for the dynamic frames in 1.10 |
| 05:03.35 | Esamynn | I don't like the idea of libraries for WoW Addons myself, besides, whats wrong with XML? |
| 05:03.38 | End | "You should probably just say instead that creating circular layout dependencies will generate a Lua error instead of crashing. :)" |
| 05:03.51 | End | according to slouken...I think that describes it |
| 05:04.12 | Esamynn | its not circular, I want the frame to auto-size around its children |
| 05:04.42 | End | well, because you are attaching your frame to its children makes it circular I think |
| 05:05.27 | End | hmm |
| 05:05.28 | End | I dunno |
| 05:05.29 | Esamynn | eeeeeh, I get what you mean, but I don't think you actually said what you mean |
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| 05:08.39 | Tain | I wouldn't be coding addons today without Ace. |
| 05:09.16 | Esamynn | I perfer my AddOns be standalone |
| 05:09.18 | Tain | What's wrong with XML? I think I'd get flood disconnected if I tried listing everything I dislike about it. |
| 05:09.33 | Esamynn | well just name a few then |
| 05:10.11 | Esamynn | correction, standalone meaning no library dependencies beyond the one I can count on (ie, the build in one) |
| 05:10.15 | Tain | Visualizing a layout is a supreme pian in the ass. |
| 05:10.29 | Esamynn | same could be said for doing the layout in lua |
| 05:11.03 | Tain | Yes, the difference is the way you can see the settings. |
| 05:11.45 | Tain | Scrolling through a large XML file to find something you're looking for is more difficult because of the common tags everywhere. |
| 05:12.15 | Esamynn | I can't think of a better way of storing such layouts in a text file |
| 05:12.31 | Tain | Then you have to figure out if you're in the right section, under the right subheading, putting your tags in the right place. |
| 05:13.17 | Esamynn | you dislike the consistant structure? |
| 05:14.51 | Tain | No, I dislike the structure itself. The fact that it's consistent (for some definitions of consistent) isn't one of my issues. |
| 05:15.31 | Esamynn | ahh ok, so you don't like the way it is structured |
| 05:15.53 | Tain | Just as a quick example to me this makes more sense. (Small snippet) |
| 05:15.55 | Tain | http://ace.pastebin.com/481183 |
| 05:16.17 | Tain | It treats frames more like the rest of Lua's objects. |
| 05:17.27 | Esamynn | ahh ok |
| 05:17.51 | Tain | I know people seem to like the XML format of frames. I don't, that's all. I'll be glad when I never have to touch it again. |
| 05:18.54 | Tain | The elements and settings are all the same, just differnet formats. I guess it really just comes down to me being able to read it as a Lua object easier. |
| 05:19.48 | *** join/#wowi-lounge slouken (n=slouken@ip68-5-42-243.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 05:20.26 | Tain | Hey ya slouken, happy Tues.. err.. Wednesday to you. |
| 05:20.29 | Tain | ~today |
| 05:20.31 | purl | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 05:20.31 | Cairenn | hey Slouken |
| 05:21.01 | slouken | Tain, you sure you're not Tem in disguise? :) |
| 05:21.21 | Cairenn | Tain, still Tuesday where he his |
| 05:21.25 | Cairenn | s/his/is/ |
| 05:21.48 | Tain | I am going to be taking odds on how long it takes for a Tem, "I crashed dynamic frames.." post after 1.10 is out there. |
| 05:21.58 | slouken | lol |
| 05:22.06 | slouken | about an hour, not doubt |
| 05:22.13 | Cairenn | if that long |
| 05:23.29 | Cairenn | and that's an hour after it hitting Test server, that is |
| 05:24.24 | Esamynn | hey slouken :) |
| 05:25.10 | Esamynn | have a good holiday? |
| 05:27.49 | Kolth | Evening, Mr. Slouken. |
| 05:31.11 | Ktron | purl, slouken song! |
| 05:31.12 | purl | [slouken song] Hey hey its slouken, which might rhyme with 'who can', or it could be that slouken, rhymes with 'just jokin'! I guess that we will never no, exactly how to prounce the 'slou', or how to pronouce the 'ken'. |
| 05:32.06 | Esamynn | slouken seems to have fallen asleep or something, or did I scare him off? ;) |
| 05:35.41 | Esamynn | ~emulate slouken |
| 05:35.42 | purl | ACTION picks up a bug swatter ... *splat* ... *splat* ... Ewww, that was a big one... |
| 05:36.25 | slouken | Heheh |
| 05:36.35 | slouken | (just helping my baby go to sleep) |
| 05:36.38 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 05:37.01 | Kaelten | you know I've never had this much problems getting a program to run |
| 05:39.44 | Kaelten | can anyone tell me how to get around this error "-bash: ../dist/configure: Permission denied" |
| 05:39.59 | slouken | sh ../dist/configure |
| 05:40.24 | Kaelten | oh hey slouken |
| 05:40.45 | Kaelten | oh on another note anyone know how for me to tell BerkeleyDB4 not to use Posix locking? |
| 05:41.33 | Cairenn | hey MentalPower|ZZzz, did you ever get hold of Tim/get your question answered? |
| 05:43.35 | Esamynn | slouken: I know I'm not supposed to ask you work questions, but would you be willing to answer a quick yes/no question? (I promise not to bug you here again until next year...) ;) |
| 05:46.26 | Kolth | Esamynn: THe answer is yesno. |
| 05:46.58 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Kolth |
| 05:47.00 | purl | ACTION slaps Kolth around with a slice of rocquefort |
| 05:47.20 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:48.07 | Tain | Kaelten: just found this |
| 05:48.08 | Tain | > 1) Download the DB4 source RPM. Edit the spec. file and remove the --enable-threads piece and rebuild the RPM. |
| 05:49.12 | Kaelten | hmm. well I've got the actuall source code up there compiling atm, if this build fails to fix it I'll see if I can make that change anywhere and then try it. |
| 05:51.08 | Tain | I'm not sure where that file is, or what it's called exactly. Hopefully in the source somewhere. |
| 05:51.22 | Cairenn | Kaelten: it just hates you |
| 05:52.00 | Esamynn | Guild Officer notes hate me.... ;) |
| 05:53.07 | Esamynn | I'm in a now you see them now you don't sort of situation with the officer notes in my guild, its really quite annoying (its not just me either) |
| 05:59.22 | Kaelten | ya I can't find that fine either. |
| 06:00.08 | pagefault | me either |
| 06:00.10 | pagefault | I am looking at the source |
| 06:00.15 | pagefault | I can only find --enable-pthreads |
| 06:01.57 | pagefault | no clue |
| 06:02.02 | Kaelten | what file is that in? |
| 06:02.07 | pagefault | configure |
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| 06:07.43 | Esamynn | evening Guillotine |
| 06:07.57 | Esamynn | lol, I scared him off |
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| 06:08.51 | Esamynn | evening Guillotine |
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| 06:16.11 | Guillotine__ | replicating guillotines... |
| 06:16.40 | Esamynn | having problems Guill? |
| 06:17.23 | Esamynn | yes, I noticed you seem to be cloning yourself |
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| 06:17.56 | Esamynn | problems Guil? |
| 06:18.22 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 06:18.26 | Cairenn | *purr* |
| 06:19.35 | pagefault | bleh |
| 06:20.21 | Kaelten | on a file does -- denote a command or a comment? |
| 06:20.33 | pagefault | command |
| 06:20.51 | Kaelten | ok I read in a post that this line is the issue |
| 06:20.52 | Kaelten | --enable-posixmutexes |
| 06:21.01 | Kaelten | so if I change it to --disable-posixmutexes |
| 06:21.03 | Kaelten | it should work |
| 06:21.11 | Esamynn | nice theory |
| 06:21.24 | Esamynn | *evil laugh* |
| 06:21.49 | Kaelten | about to test it |
| 06:31.13 | AnduinLothar | whee queue |
| 06:33.21 | Cairenn | which server? |
| 06:34.54 | AnduinLothar | kil'jaeden |
| 06:35.00 | AnduinLothar | only liek 30 |
| 06:35.10 | Cairenn | bah, that's not a queue :p |
| 06:35.27 | AnduinLothar | for a tuesday at 10:30pm... |
| 06:35.47 | AnduinLothar | tho it is KJ, the oldest server, all 60's |
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| 06:42.55 | Esamynn | night all |
| 06:43.02 | Cairenn | night Esamynn |
| 07:05.22 | AnduinLothar | hmm, $15 at itunes isn't ever enough.. |
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| 07:06.23 | AnduinLothar | i'm so bad at deciding what music to actually pay $ for.. |
| 07:07.08 | pagefault | bleh I don't give money to those thieves |
| 07:07.15 | Tem | people still pay money for music? |
| 07:07.17 | AnduinLothar | gift certificate |
| 07:07.29 | Tem | aha |
| 07:07.48 | AnduinLothar | and yes, people still pay $ for music |
| 07:08.17 | Depherios | I get soundtracks for free with some DVDs and Games.... does that count? |
| 07:08.29 | AnduinLothar | I've stolen enough music in my lifetime, i like to buy it legally occationally just to apease my over developed conscience |
| 07:08.38 | Depherios | lol |
| 07:08.49 | Depherios | (as I download corpse bride) |
| 07:09.02 | Depherios | of course, I'm going to buy it when it comes out, but the buggers keep pushing it back |
| 07:09.18 | AnduinLothar | that and being a musician and artist myself, i wish people would give me $ |
| 07:10.00 | AnduinLothar | i figure i'm helping to stimulate the economy by spending $ |
| 07:10.37 | AnduinLothar | i think i'll buy some electronica |
| 07:10.56 | AnduinLothar | that way i can zone out and bask in my lack of motivation |
| 07:11.50 | AnduinLothar | something in a minor key with a female vocalist |
| 07:12.46 | AnduinLothar | wonder if i can find any electronica mixed with classical instrumentation |
| 07:14.32 | AnduinLothar | hmm, a 'chilled' norah jones remix |
| 07:14.38 | AnduinLothar | of Angels |
| 07:32.56 | pagefault | good idea |
| 07:33.00 | pagefault | I am streaming corpse bride now |
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| 07:43.57 | AnduinLothar | ya, so i'm lookign at BT stereo headphones. doesn't seem to be much in the way of options |
| 07:44.26 | AnduinLothar | best i've come up with is the BT450Rx |
| 07:45.21 | AnduinLothar | which are pretty awsome cause they'rs only like $90 and have a mic and multi-pairing so you can take a call and resume music from a diffeent source after |
| 07:46.03 | AnduinLothar | however, I'm not seeing mac softawre compatibility, which Is what i'd really like. So I can use it on vent and skype and itunes |
| 07:46.25 | pagefault | wow the animation is amazing |
| 07:46.53 | AnduinLothar | tho their BT450TX is pretty sexy too, bluetooth control of your ipod from the BT450Rx headphones |
| 07:54.06 | Guillotine__ | gn guys |
| 07:54.25 | Guillotine__ | you guys like my new leave message? hehe |
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| 07:59.54 | Ktron | James Bond is ridiculous |
| 08:01.27 | Cairenn | yeah, but he always gets the girl in the end |
| 08:01.45 | AnduinLothar | cant keep um tho |
| 08:01.53 | Ktron | I wish bond moves worked |
| 08:02.03 | Ktron | heh |
| 08:02.08 | Cairenn | naw, he does tend to get them killed off, doesn't he? |
| 08:02.34 | Ktron | Cairenn: only the ones he marries, or the bad guy ones |
| 08:03.27 | Ktron | if you're a bad guy bond chick, you've got two nights to make it count and then you are probably good as dead |
| 08:03.35 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 08:47.01 | Cairenn | night all |
| 08:49.32 | Kolth | Night, Cair! |
| 08:49.39 | kremonte | night cair =P |
| 08:49.43 | AnduinLothar | sweet dreams |
| 08:51.09 | Ktron | off to sleep for me |
| 08:52.12 | kremonte | why was cosmos' /in removed? |
| 08:52.19 | AnduinLothar | wasn't |
| 08:52.24 | AnduinLothar | it's part of Chronos |
| 08:52.30 | kremonte | oh, it's still there? |
| 08:52.32 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 08:52.38 | kremonte | ah, i heard otherwise. thanks |
| 08:54.44 | id` | morning |
| 08:59.26 | id` | listen, even |
| 08:59.45 | AnduinLothar | http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/35130.html |
| 09:00.05 | Kolth | ha |
| 09:03.27 | kremonte | comments on sites mean something? i read mac sites more than pc magazine/msn crud =/ |
| 09:04.04 | AnduinLothar | it's just a fun exersize with Style. nothing conclusive |
| 09:04.33 | kremonte | silly article tho |
| 09:05.00 | AnduinLothar | i would say mac users care more and don't flame as much, thus more intellegent discussion |
| 09:05.25 | kremonte | well, i would say as well that i doubt the majority of peoples' first computer are mac, as opposed to windows |
| 09:05.43 | kremonte | ie, more 10 year olds would use windows over mac because of more exposure to it |
| 09:05.45 | kremonte | ./shrug |
| 09:06.09 | AnduinLothar | that's not saying much considering the distrobution |
| 09:06.40 | AnduinLothar | but, yes. You mean the average age of the pc user is younger |
| 09:07.14 | AnduinLothar | which is debatable |
| 09:07.47 | AnduinLothar | my first computer was a mac, but that was before windows existed... |
| 09:07.53 | kremonte | lol |
| 09:09.10 | kremonte | regardless, taking it from forum comments and whatnot is also a debatable method =^) |
| 09:09.53 | AnduinLothar | right, well any other method would require funding and sampling, which no one will get considering the uselessness of the context |
| 09:10.24 | kremonte | lol, yup |
| 09:11.15 | kremonte | unless you get the age of each post of the user from their profile (also debatable because people can put in fake ages), and record their OS along with each post..which is a bit of overkill imho |
| 09:11.58 | kremonte | why are we talking about this again? heh. |
| 09:12.44 | AnduinLothar | cause i linked it after attempting to google for reviews of the BT450Rx and whether it works with macs |
| 09:12.56 | kremonte | google ftw |
| 09:13.09 | AnduinLothar | ftl in this case, tho it was entertaining |
| 09:13.30 | kremonte | ftw as in, google loves to spit out entertaining topics of discussion |
| 09:13.32 | kremonte | hehehe |
| 09:13.37 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 09:14.02 | AnduinLothar | chatbar's fighting me |
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| 09:17.09 | kremonte | what's that quote, the laziest of people go through great lengths to make things to make doing something easier? |
| 09:17.22 | dukeku | haha :P |
| 09:17.33 | kremonte | i went to search WoWI for chatbar, and i realized how lazy i am, so i'm making a firefox search plugin for WoWi |
| 09:17.47 | AnduinLothar | isn't there one already? |
| 09:17.51 | kremonte | i dunno |
| 09:17.57 | kremonte | i'm too lazy to search for it |
| 09:18.11 | dukeku | just make a quicksearch |
| 09:18.16 | kremonte | quicksearch? |
| 09:18.18 | kremonte | too lazy |
| 09:18.24 | dukeku | easier than a search plugin |
| 09:18.37 | kremonte | im used to using the little thing |
| 09:18.39 | kremonte | from thottbot |
| 09:19.09 | AnduinLothar | nope no wowi that i see. one for the following wow sites: |
| 09:19.10 | AnduinLothar | - Curse-Gaming.com |
| 09:19.10 | AnduinLothar | - UI.WorldofWar.net |
| 09:19.10 | AnduinLothar | - WoW-Handwerk.de |
| 09:19.10 | AnduinLothar | - Thottbot.com |
| 09:19.10 | AnduinLothar | - WoW.Allakhazam |
| 09:19.12 | AnduinLothar | - BLASC.de |
| 09:19.27 | dukeku | hmm |
| 09:19.30 | dukeku | the wowi search is wierd |
| 09:19.36 | dukeku | weird, even |
| 09:19.46 | kremonte | how so? |
| 09:19.48 | AnduinLothar | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2511 |
| 09:20.12 | AnduinLothar | and a wowwiki one: http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2867 |
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| 09:21.25 | id` | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=13184#13184 |
| 09:22.30 | kremonte | yup, boo blizzard |
| 09:23.07 | kremonte | oh, wait |
| 09:23.10 | kremonte | i didn't read your post |
| 09:23.10 | kremonte | boo you |
| 09:23.44 | dukeku | i played wow to explore, but when the devs say somethings off limits i respect that |
| 09:23.58 | kremonte | they said they remove it because people exploit it.. |
| 09:24.02 | kremonte | okay, remove it from BGs |
| 09:24.08 | dukeku | sux tho because i've seen everything but AQ now :| |
| 09:24.22 | kremonte | and have the same policy on that as mages slow fallking onto roofes and attacking from them |
| 09:24.57 | krka | damn it my server is down |
| 09:25.05 | krka | i wanted to try my addon :( |
| 09:25.08 | kremonte | it's a bloody game, as you say id`, but exploring is fun for some people =/ |
| 09:25.19 | AnduinLothar | getting to bwl is looking like an impossibility before the expansion |
| 09:25.29 | AnduinLothar | for me anyway |
| 09:25.31 | kremonte | AnduinLothar - uninstanced bwl? |
| 09:25.45 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 09:25.51 | AnduinLothar | black wing lair |
| 09:25.53 | kremonte | getting to bwl is looking like an impossibility before the expansion |
| 09:25.55 | kremonte | i know |
| 09:26.00 | kremonte | what do you mean about it =x |
| 09:26.05 | AnduinLothar | what do u mean uninstanced |
| 09:26.22 | kremonte | you can climb from searing gorge into uninstanced BWL |
| 09:26.42 | AnduinLothar | wasn't talking about wall walking at all |
| 09:26.49 | kremonte | ah, otay. misunderstood |
| 09:27.14 | dukeku | i used to be a pretty hard core raider, i don't really care anymore though |
| 09:27.21 | kremonte | dukeku - same, sort of |
| 09:27.29 | kremonte | my guilds almost up to nef..i only log on now to raid tho |
| 09:27.42 | AnduinLothar | all the established guilds on my server seem to have requirements to join which i dont fulfill |
| 09:28.03 | dukeku | like what? |
| 09:28.37 | AnduinLothar | epic count, bwl key, 20hrs/week |
| 09:28.53 | dukeku | eww |
| 09:28.53 | Kolth | They list epic mount? hah |
| 09:28.54 | kremonte | 20hrs/week...what the hell? |
| 09:28.58 | krka | no, epic count |
| 09:29.00 | kremonte | epic count, Kolth |
| 09:29.01 | dukeku | count |
| 09:29.03 | krka | like... 100000? |
| 09:29.05 | Kolth | omg |
| 09:29.07 | Kolth | Stop all correcting me! |
| 09:29.10 | dukeku | i joined my guild when UBRS was hardcore |
| 09:29.13 | kremonte | count* |
| 09:29.15 | kremonte | lol dukeku |
| 09:29.20 | kremonte | DRAK DOWN |
| 09:29.23 | kremonte | DRAKK DOWN! WOOOT |
| 09:29.26 | dukeku | we got the first kills in everything in MC on the server |
| 09:29.34 | krka | there is no hardcore in wow, but i wish there was! |
| 09:29.34 | kremonte | nice |
| 09:29.39 | dukeku | fell behind in BWL, but we have phase 2 on nef |
| 09:29.41 | dukeku | although i don't raid anymore |
| 09:29.42 | kremonte | krka - heh? |
| 09:29.45 | dukeku | because it's boring as hel |
| 09:29.46 | dukeku | hell, even |
| 09:29.49 | AnduinLothar | right, i've been playing since day one, but i've only ever downed 2 mc bosses and ony 2ce |
| 09:29.51 | krka | diablo style hardcore |
| 09:30.00 | dukeku | heh |
| 09:30.01 | dukeku | what server? |
| 09:30.17 | AnduinLothar | and only epic is mount and hide of the wild |
| 09:30.23 | dukeku | class? :p |
| 09:30.29 | AnduinLothar | pally, kil'jaeden |
| 09:30.33 | dukeku | ahhh paladins |
| 09:30.41 | dukeku | be glad you're not raiding |
| 09:31.05 | AnduinLothar | most established server. 95% are 60 or have 60 mains |
| 09:31.07 | dukeku | heh, i tried hard to get a hide of the wild until i saw a green cloak on the AH with more int/sta for 2g buyout |
| 09:31.43 | dukeku | i was dumb enough to take blizzard's suggestion on day 1 for a server |
| 09:31.56 | dukeku | so i've been on a tiny low pop (maybe medium on really peak days) server |
| 09:32.08 | AnduinLothar | 1 in 10 60's has epic pvp loot |
| 09:32.17 | dukeku | jeez :p |
| 09:32.26 | dukeku | my guild fell behind because of the honor system |
| 09:32.39 | dukeku | oh hey i might get field marshal next week who needs to raid! |
| 09:33.05 | AnduinLothar | i royally suck pvp |
| 09:33.13 | dukeku | you're a paladin, what can you expect |
| 09:33.48 | AnduinLothar | i don't. i prefer pve |
| 09:34.13 | dukeku | i can't do more than 1 or 2 ab games a week before it's just boring as all hell |
| 09:34.21 | AnduinLothar | but because of the pvp on the pvp server causual pve endgame is near impossible |
| 09:34.22 | dukeku | but man i love alts :p |
| 09:34.24 | dukeku | yeah |
| 09:34.38 | dukeku | of course there's always people who will say "go to pve" |
| 09:34.44 | dukeku | like there aren't battlegrounds on pve servers @_@ |
| 09:35.13 | AnduinLothar | i cant get another alt past 20... get bored, wish i could staart at 40 |
| 09:35.29 | dukeku | funny, i have trouble getting them past 40 |
| 09:35.32 | dukeku | the leveling gets slow |
| 09:35.57 | AnduinLothar | 5man instances |
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| 09:36.15 | AnduinLothar | i want more 5 man instances that i can do casually |
| 09:36.32 | dukeku | the problem with being on a low pop server...everyone is 60, barely any lowbies |
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| 09:51.19 | AnduinLothar | aha! the 16th button had a typo so it didn't have a text element |
| 10:50.07 | AnduinLothar | oh, no tgetn it's just getn global == table.getn |
| 11:15.47 | AnduinLothar | wow, 2nd level dropdowns is easier than i thought |
| 11:40.15 | AnduinLothar | is there an easier way to do this? gsub(var, "%s+.*", "") |
| 11:40.37 | AnduinLothar | to grab the first word from both "hi" and "hi - mom" |
| 11:41.43 | AnduinLothar | and also "h๎ - mom" |
| 11:43.37 | id` | anime radio \o/ |
| 11:44.51 | id` | hmm nice song |
| 11:44.52 | id` | :) |
| 11:46.00 | id` | AnduinLothar: can't you put the word part inside an atom () and use that atom? |
| 11:46.04 | id` | dont know how it works in lua |
| 11:46.17 | id` | so you dont have to delete everything other then what you need |
| 11:46.25 | id` | a bit lighter i think |
| 11:53.17 | AnduinLothar | yes, you can, but i don't know how to get just a word, including special characters but not including spaces |
| 11:53.44 | AnduinLothar | actually... "[^%s]*.*" might work |
| 11:54.14 | AnduinLothar | er gsub(var, "([^%s])*.*", "%1") |
| 11:54.29 | AnduinLothar | but that prolyl takes just as long |
| 11:54.36 | id` | i'd ask in #lua too |
| 11:54.39 | id` | :) |
| 11:55.41 | AnduinLothar | gsub("h??i - ", "([^%s]*).*", "%1") works |
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| 12:55.05 | Iriel | Morning. |
| 12:55.46 | id` | lo |
| 12:56.00 | AnduinLothar | morning ir |
| 12:56.31 | AnduinLothar | got any ide which of these is faster: gsub(var, "%s+.*", "") or gsub(var, "([^%s]*).*", "%1") |
| 12:57.56 | Iriel | I'd imagine the first one is. |
| 12:58.09 | AnduinLothar | that was my thought |
| 12:58.35 | Iriel | You should do %s.* tho |
| 12:58.39 | AnduinLothar | tho it's kinda unconventional since the count will be misleading |
| 12:58.54 | AnduinLothar | um no |
| 12:59.02 | AnduinLothar | that would match the last string |
| 12:59.17 | Iriel | "%s+.*" - One or more spaces followed by everything else |
| 12:59.18 | AnduinLothar | space* |
| 12:59.24 | Iriel | "%s.*" - One space, followed by everything else |
| 12:59.39 | Iriel | They will both match the same thing |
| 12:59.48 | AnduinLothar | unfortunetly, no |
| 13:00.26 | AnduinLothar | hi, 1 = gsub("hi - mom", "%s+.*", "") |
| 13:00.43 | AnduinLothar | "hi -", 1 = gsub("hi - mom", "%s.*", "") |
| 13:00.53 | AnduinLothar | mm2nd one might be 2 |
| 13:00.58 | Iriel | You're wrong |
| 13:01.17 | Iriel | Regexps match as early, and as much, as possible. |
| 13:01.52 | Iriel | > return string.gsub("hi - mom", "%s.*", "") |
| 13:01.55 | Iriel | hi 1 |
| 13:01.58 | Iriel | > return string.gsub("hi - mom", "%s+.*", "") |
| 13:02.00 | Iriel | hi 1 |
| 13:02.05 | AnduinLothar | right. i see it in lua. I'm nto seeing it in wow |
| 13:02.15 | AnduinLothar | ill try again |
| 13:02.19 | Iriel | Then you did something else different 8-) |
| 13:02.23 | AnduinLothar | possibly |
| 13:02.36 | kremonte | hm Iriel, awhile back you posted a snippet with LTK hoohaa that i didnt get a bit, to toggle through tracking |
| 13:02.40 | kremonte | happen to remember it? =x |
| 13:03.06 | AnduinLothar | there's a binding for that in TrackerToggle |
| 13:03.29 | kremonte | huh? not for use i mean, i wanted to examine it a bit tbh |
| 13:03.31 | Iriel | kremonte : Hm, I dont, no. |
| 13:03.45 | kremonte | but it has that concept in trackertoggle? |
| 13:03.50 | AnduinLothar | well, the codes on curse |
| 13:04.59 | AnduinLothar | TrackerToggle.cycleTracking() |
| 13:06.45 | AnduinLothar | uses GetTrackingTexture with a table of usable tracking types |
| 13:07.09 | kremonte | was more or less interested in you hit it once you get A |
| 13:07.14 | kremonte | hit it again, B, then C, then D, then A |
| 13:07.27 | AnduinLothar | ok iriel, you are right. i musta tried something else |
| 13:07.40 | AnduinLothar | yes krem, that's what it does |
| 13:07.47 | kremonte | alrighty |
| 13:08.53 | Iriel | Hm, was the snippet of mine you remember something like X=math.mod(X or 0, 10)+1 |
| 13:09.12 | Iriel | I do remember a discussion of the mod operator resulting from code like that |
| 13:09.38 | AnduinLothar | that works for any numericly indexed table |
| 13:09.47 | kremonte | Iriel - yes |
| 13:10.28 | AnduinLothar | problem is jsut tracking X if you change the tracking method with another method |
| 13:10.43 | Iriel | yeah |
| 13:10.54 | Iriel | The scan and advance approach is best for something like tracking |
| 13:10.57 | Iriel | but doesn't fit in a macro |
| 13:11.03 | AnduinLothar | tracker toggle doesn't bother to keep track of what's active. it just surfs your buffs for the texture |
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| 13:22.45 | AnduinLothar | new ChatBar: http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2884 |
| 13:23.49 | AnduinLothar | and with that it's coma time |
| 13:31.15 | kremonte | Try not to die. New amp'd mobile is coming out |
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| 16:35.29 | Ktron | morning |
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| 16:39.31 | Tain | ~mornings |
| 16:39.33 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 16:43.07 | MoonWolf | morning. afternoon actually. |
| 16:43.18 | Elkano | depends... ^^ |
| 16:43.59 | id` | ~ugt |
| 16:44.00 | purl | well, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. |
| 16:44.08 | id` | :> |
| 16:46.47 | MoonWolf | cant beat that. |
| 16:54.24 | Elkano | that could be discriminating to people who try to establish a night/day rithem (in contrast to a day/night rithem) ;) |
| 16:55.45 | Tain | I try, but it doesn't work the way I want. |
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| 17:12.00 | id` | Tain: life cheats :P |
| 17:13.55 | Iriel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=286547 |
| 17:14.02 | Iriel | For anyone who cares, or bookmarks such things |
| 17:14.10 | Cide | thanks Iriel |
| 17:14.54 | Iriel | Though I guess at this point it's little more than a summary of the first posts of the 2 blue threads on the first page of the forum, but i'm sure in a week's time it'll be more useful! |
| 17:15.02 | Cide | haha, yep |
| 17:15.30 | Elkano | oh, first time I don't miss Iriel, so I've got to use this chance: Big thanks for everything you've done for us so far! /hug |
| 17:15.40 | Depherios | YAY |
| 17:16.41 | Iriel | Thanks 8-) I was in another country for a couple of weeks and hard to catch. |
| 17:17.18 | Tain | We do not tolerate such petty excuses! |
| 17:17.28 | Tain | errr... I mean thank you very much for your hard work and dedication, Iriel. |
| 17:17.42 | Iriel | heh |
| 17:18.02 | Iriel | I will note I endured dialup and windows Internet Connection Sharing to check in a few times! |
| 17:18.05 | Tain | Did you have a nice holiday? |
| 17:18.10 | Tain | *gasp*! |
| 17:18.39 | Iriel | yes, except for getting a cold |
| 17:18.43 | Elkano | well, I had to endure that until a few months ago ^^ |
| 17:19.03 | Elkano | hope you're fine again (or at least getting better) |
| 17:19.49 | Iriel | recovering quickly from that, and jetlag |
| 17:21.23 | Elkano | where have you been? |
| 17:21.36 | Iriel | England (and wales, briefly) |
| 17:23.10 | Elkano | hope you enjoyed Europe :) |
| 17:23.35 | Elkano | (or at least that small unrepresentating island called England ;) ) |
| 17:24.15 | Iriel | Well, I was born and grew up there, so for me it was more of a 'see the family' thing, my fiancee on the other hand had never been, so much more of an experience there. |
| 17:32.25 | Lebannen | hmmmm... is there a way to detect the loss of a stance or shapeshift? I can pick up gaining it easily enough, but CHAT_MSG_SPELL_AURA_GONE_SELF only seems to pick up the aura loss randomly, and not half the time or more... |
| 17:32.44 | Iriel | Um, does UNIT_AURA work? |
| 17:33.21 | Iriel | It should fire reliably, though it doesn't tell you WHAT changed |
| 17:35.46 | Tain | I believe so. |
| 17:36.15 | Elkano | btw: Iriel, did slouken ever say sth about adding item links to private channels? (I need a way to transmit links from one client to unspecified others using an addon and I want to have them checked in order to prevent abuse) |
| 17:36.26 | Tain | It seems like the only way is to scan your current buffs when UNIT_AURA fires. Which is a little un-elegant. |
| 17:36.47 | Iriel | Tain: yeah, you can at least check for arg1 == "player" |
| 17:36.51 | Ktron | Lebannen: you could look at flexbar code, I know flexbar has a reliable method of detecting aura chances |
| 17:37.14 | Ktron | *changes |
| 17:37.22 | Iriel | Elkano: No, the restriction appears to be quite deliberate |
| 17:37.48 | Lebannen | mm, yes, UNIT_AURA does catch every buff change, following which I guess I can check for previous stances... ick, was hoping there was one just for auras/stances, not for all buffs :) |
| 17:37.48 | Iriel | Elkano : I did write up an amusing little protocol for doing it once, if you're interested |
| 17:38.41 | Elkano | would be nice :) (I only need to make sure that I can link a recived itemid without being disconnected) |
| 17:38.44 | Iriel | Elkano : Basically -- Sender encodes link, recipient decodes link and tests with GetItemInfo, if item not in recipient's cache, recipient's addon sends message to sender (via tell) asking for link, sender sends link to recipient via tell. |
| 17:39.00 | Iriel | Elkano : The tell parts are done behind the scenes by the addon(s) |
| 17:39.28 | Iriel | In theory "most of the time" the item is in the recipient's cache anyway |
| 17:39.50 | Elkano | hmm... but I would have to cache the tells in order to prevent disconnects if a 'rare' item is posted, don't I? |
| 17:40.07 | Iriel | If you mean to prevent throttling disconnects, I'd imagine so |
| 17:40.21 | Iriel | though that depends how many people you're posting to at once! |
| 17:40.41 | Iriel | It's probably worth putting throttling in anyway to prevent malicious denial of service. |
| 17:41.11 | Elkano | the main thing I'm working on is the following: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4418 |
| 17:41.46 | Lebannen | Ktron: looks like Flexbar uses UNIT_AURA as well, then scanning all buffs... with a note next to it saying it doesn't seem to get fired for all forms. D'oh! |
| 17:42.24 | Iriel | I wonder how old that note is |
| 17:42.36 | Iriel | Elkano : The problem with 'linksafeness' is that someone has to get disconnected if the links is bad 8-) |
| 17:42.49 | Ktron | I've never noticed a problem with them... heh, Iriel's probably right, that note could be over a year old even |
| 17:43.01 | Elkano | so I want to maintain a session list of items safe for linking and I want to have clients cache items other users have seen. The later would be possible with your way, the first wouldn't since I having the item in cache doesn't mean it's linksafe ^^' |
| 17:43.17 | Elkano | Iriel, that's the problem I'm working on ^^ |
| 17:43.29 | Iriel | Well, if you have a 'safe to send' list in-session |
| 17:43.45 | Iriel | and you use the tell protocol I described, you wont disconnect anyone |
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| 17:44.32 | Iriel | and you build up the 'safe to send' list, because item links in tells/channels are safe for re-sending |
| 17:45.01 | Iriel | Just make sure that if a user recieves a 'please send this link' erquest, that the link being requested is in that user's "safe to send" cache |
| 17:45.18 | Elkano | yes, the tell protocol will help a lot but in order to help getting a list as large as possible I'll have to ask for every item not seen this session, yet. Will result in a lot of tells, but should work. |
| 17:45.48 | Elkano | handshakes, I'm coming... ;) |
| 17:46.01 | Lebannen | Well, just ran a few tests... CHAT_MSG_SPELL_AURA_GONE_SELF fired 7/10 times, UNIT_AURA fired several times each time :) So I'll use that :) Thanks all! |
| 17:46.07 | Iriel | Yeah, you can't make a comprehensive list without a LOT of communication. |
| 17:46.59 | Elkano | wil a client be dc if he recives a large number of whispers at the same time? |
| 17:47.09 | Iriel | I dont believe so |
| 17:47.28 | Iriel | AFAIK the disconnect is based on data going from client to server, not the other way around |
| 17:47.29 | Ktron | Heh, I want to make or modify a link db that stores items more compactly... like, store the different sets of endings, and just store what type of endings a particular item can get, so in the db it'd say like 'Green Lens of ...' or such... Maybe do a tree view, and maybe make the tree view work for 'sets' of items too-- like, all the actual sets grouped together, and things like all the green leather armor or scorpid leather armor |
| 17:47.29 | Ktron | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.13 | Iriel | ktron the challenge there is comiung up with a compact representation of the viable endings, though a string of ordered endings might work out okay |
| 17:48.21 | Iriel | tables are pretty 'large', unfortunately |
| 17:48.47 | Ktron | But to store one index to a set of endings has to be smaller |
| 17:49.06 | Ktron | storing item sets would definitely take more |
| 17:49.50 | Iriel | well, strings are intened, so if you used a string lua would do that for you |
| 17:49.54 | Iriel | inteRned, even |
| 17:50.16 | Elkano | how about only storing the parts of the id and using getiteminfo to obtain the names? (as long as the cache isn't pruned this should work since afaik the prefixes are all stored in the client anyway) |
| 17:51.32 | Ktron | ...only parts of the id? |
| 17:52.25 | Ktron | Also, here's another question/thought-- is there a way to see an enchant on a weapon without enchanting it? |
| 17:53.09 | Iriel | The problem is that you can create item links that never really showup in reality |
| 17:53.30 | Ktron | Iriel: oh, I know |
| 17:53.34 | Iriel | due to that very problem (The base item ID's and 'specializations' are combined on the fly) |
| 17:54.12 | Elkano | well, the id is sth like item:a:b:c:d, where a is the base item, b is an enchantment/armour patch, c is the suffix (sorry for prefix abouve) and d is sth like a unique id |
| 17:55.18 | Ktron | Color is in there somewhere, I think the only 'unique' id is a |
| 17:55.34 | Elkano | (I wonder if we will ever reveal the magic behind 'd' ;) ) |
| 17:55.59 | Ktron | anyway, I need to go, almost forgot my appointment heh... Elk, I think there's no magic behind anything except for the item id |
| 17:56.11 | Iriel | I suspect it's an internally generated key and thus not magic at all |
| 17:56.11 | Iriel | just inherently undecypherable without access to the server's database |
| 17:56.35 | Elkano | Iriel, that's what I mean ^^ |
| 17:56.47 | Ktron | Guillotine and kremonte are the people to ask about item links... anyway, since the attributes are separate, seems like storing them separately would make sense |
| 17:57.52 | Ktron | and Iriel, I've forged links of weapons with weapon buffs on them, but trying them on heh disconnected me... I wonder if there's a way to get them to show up in the dressing room, it'd be very slick to be able to see your weapons with enchants on them beforehand |
| 17:57.58 | Ktron | anyway, got to run |
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| 18:00.46 | Tain | Any of those fake links should be non-functional in one of the upcoming patches anyway. |
| 18:01.35 | Tain | I think in 1.9, but I don't remember if that's what was said for sure. |
| 18:01.50 | Iriel | Hm, i'm not sure anything official was said, was it? |
| 18:03.07 | Tain | No, not officially. But the information was passed on, and it was passed back that it would be fixed. |
| 18:04.04 | Iriel | ah, good to know. |
| 18:04.15 | Iriel | Ok.. out for a while, back later! |
| 18:05.54 | Elkano | as long as tooltips and dressing room keep working on local cache im 100% fine with it ^^ |
| 18:06.35 | Tain | I hope so. |
| 18:06.52 | Tain | And if not blame the people who spoofed links all over the place. :) |
| 18:06.58 | Elkano | well, if not it would turn my addon to dust :( |
| 18:07.33 | Elkano | luckily I don't know anything about that spoofing ^^ |
| 18:10.07 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowguru.com/db/chars/twidge-id1362605/ |
| 18:10.56 | Tain | Oh whew glad I looked. I almost went to wowguru |
| 18:12.32 | Elkano | ^^ |
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| 18:20.07 | MoonWolf | ToastTheif, TWINK |
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| 18:34.09 | wowguru-9575 | LABAS |
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| 18:36.32 | Ktron|afk | SCORE! found my wc3tft case and cdkey, so I can install it again ;) |
| 18:37.57 | Elkano | hf :) |
| 18:38.07 | Ktron|afk | heh, twidge is just a little tweaked ;) |
| 18:38.08 | End | hmmm |
| 18:38.28 | ToastTheif | whats wrong with wowguru? |
| 18:38.34 | ToastTheif | and my twink =P |
| 18:39.15 | id` | toasty! |
| 18:39.22 | id` | havent seen you in a while, have i? |
| 18:39.27 | id` | hai! |
| 18:39.29 | id` | :) |
| 18:39.34 | ToastTheif | nope |
| 18:39.42 | id` | how are you? |
| 18:39.46 | ToastTheif | good, you? |
| 18:39.57 | id` | yea im ok, been sick all christmas but im slowly getting better |
| 18:40.08 | ToastTheif | well that's not fun |
| 18:40.23 | id` | no |
| 18:40.24 | ToastTheif | I've been busy with http://www.wowguru.com/db/chars/twidge-id1362605/ =P |
| 18:40.24 | id` | =( |
| 18:40.32 | id` | hah that _is_ fun |
| 18:40.45 | id` | but.. dont you gwet Xp from BG's ? |
| 18:40.48 | id` | get* |
| 18:41.26 | ToastTheif | only if u turn in the thingues |
| 18:41.29 | ToastTheif | thingies* |
| 18:41.33 | ForgottenLords | thats one hell of a twinked charachter |
| 18:41.44 | id` | ah cool then |
| 18:41.49 | Ktron|afk | I like the +7 weapon dmg the most ;) |
| 18:41.49 | ToastTheif | eh, he's got some work to go |
| 18:41.59 | ToastTheif | Im trying to get a Firery enchant on it |
| 18:42.05 | Ktron|afk | bb |
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| 18:49.48 | Ktron | bah, the disc must be scratched :( |
| 19:11.33 | ToastTheif | god I love this |
| 19:11.46 | ToastTheif | I can run iTunes, MSN, Aim, WoW ALL AT ONCE! |
| 19:11.55 | Kolth | That's a feat! |
| 19:13.01 | Tain | That reminds me, I need to install Exceed on my laptop. I'll do it now! |
| 19:14.04 | ToastTheif | could I change... |
| 19:14.07 | ToastTheif | string.format('%s %s',date('%H:%M'),arg[1]) |
| 19:14.08 | ToastTheif | to |
| 19:14.23 | ToastTheif | string.format('%s %s',[date('%H:%M')],arg[1]) |
| 19:14.34 | ToastTheif | and would that have []'s around it? |
| 19:15.16 | Tain | No, you'd do: |
| 19:15.18 | Tain | string.format('[%s] %s',date('%H:%M'),arg[1]) |
| 19:15.24 | Tain | If you wanted the brackets to show up around the date |
| 19:15.30 | ToastTheif | ic... |
| 19:15.36 | ToastTheif | what about the other %s? |
| 19:15.37 | Kolth | Do you have to escape brackets? |
| 19:15.42 | Kolth | \[%s\] ? |
| 19:15.46 | Tain | I was just trying to remember that, Kolth. |
| 19:15.49 | Tain | It's possible! |
| 19:15.57 | Kolth | You have to escape parenthesis. |
| 19:15.58 | Tain | Probable. |
| 19:16.13 | Kolth | And pattern syntax uses brackets for sub-classes |
| 19:16.21 | ToastTheif | I shall try string.format('[%s] %s',date('%H:%M'),arg[1]) |
| 19:16.32 | Tain | The second %s will show whatever arg[1] is. |
| 19:16.56 | Tain | Yeah I'd escape the brackets anyway. \[%s\] |
| 19:20.04 | ToastTheif | ok it worked |
| 19:20.17 | ToastTheif | bah, damn Industrial and his arrow chat box thingy |
| 19:20.43 | ToastTheif | whats the reload script? |
| 19:21.04 | ToastTheif | ./script ReloadUI();? |
| 19:21.46 | Kolth | Console |
| 19:22.00 | ToastTheif | ./script ReloadUI(); works |
| 19:22.50 | ToastTheif | FlightPath.lua:1425: attempt to call global `KeyBindingFrame_GetLocalizedName' (a nil value) |
| 19:22.50 | ToastTheif | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.06 | ToastTheif | mmm, I need to download EditPlus on this computer |
| 19:23.21 | ToastTheif | no line counts in Notepad :( |
| 19:25.45 | Kolth | You can use something simple like SciTE |
| 19:26.23 | ToastTheif | I like EditPlus |
| 19:26.43 | Kolth | I was assuming you aren't on your home computer. |
| 19:27.08 | Kolth | And SciTE can be run from SciTE.exe, anywhere, with no other files. |
| 19:27.43 | Kolth | ^^ |
| 19:32.21 | ToastTheif | no |
| 19:32.25 | ToastTheif | Im on my home computer |
| 19:32.36 | ToastTheif | it's new tho |
| 19:34.18 | ToastTheif | oh hey |
| 19:34.27 | ToastTheif | how do I change the time stamps from 24 to 12? |
| 19:34.42 | Kolth | read the date syntax? |
| 19:35.14 | ToastTheif | I guess |
| 19:35.56 | MoonWolf | Ktron, what disc ? |
| 19:36.04 | pagefault | yawn |
| 19:37.15 | id` | ToastTheif: why would you want that |
| 19:37.17 | id` | *shiver* |
| 19:37.32 | ToastTheif | because I don't like millitary time |
| 19:38.19 | id` | but if you add AM/PM you have 3 more characters |
| 19:38.23 | id` | :P |
| 19:38.30 | ToastTheif | nah |
| 19:38.45 | ToastTheif | just I know if it's night or day |
| 19:38.56 | ToastTheif | because I know* |
| 19:39.02 | id` | then i dont understand |
| 19:39.05 | id` | :p |
| 19:39.23 | ToastTheif | 16 o clock doesn't make sense to me |
| 19:39.29 | id` | it doesnt? |
| 19:39.33 | ToastTheif | I like to see 4 o clokc instead |
| 19:39.38 | ToastTheif | clock* |
| 19:39.44 | id` | well, 16:00 makes sense to me |
| 19:39.51 | ToastTheif | well it does, but it makes me think |
| 19:39.51 | id` | 16 o clock doesnt |
| 19:39.52 | id` | :p |
| 19:40.00 | id` | should it? |
| 19:40.01 | id` | :) |
| 19:40.05 | ToastTheif | 16 - 12... ya it's 4 right? |
| 19:40.25 | ToastTheif | no! I like to think very little amounts of things |
| 19:40.26 | Ktron | MoonWolf: from a bit back, wc3tft |
| 19:40.26 | id` | 16 is 16, dont care about 4 |
| 19:40.27 | id` | :p |
| 19:40.46 | ToastTheif | tft <3 |
| 19:40.56 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 19:41.05 | id` | morning Cairenn |
| 19:41.15 | ToastTheif | grrr why can't WoWWiki just be like "here, this is how you make stuff regular time" |
| 19:41.16 | Cairenn | hey |
| 19:41.35 | Ktron | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.40 | Ktron | *cair |
| 19:41.40 | Ktron | ? |
| 19:41.45 | id` | ToastTheif: cause its not wow, its a lua thing |
| 19:41.50 | Cairenn | pretty well, yourself? |
| 19:42.53 | ToastTheif | ah |
| 19:42.58 | ToastTheif | well WoWWiki has that too |
| 19:43.03 | ToastTheif | so I found it now heh |
| 19:44.31 | ToastTheif | well that didn't help |
| 19:44.31 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_date |
| 19:45.18 | ToastTheif | maybe '\[%r\] %s' ? |
| 19:45.27 | id` | dewd |
| 19:45.28 | id` | :p |
| 19:45.34 | id` | its a lua thing |
| 19:45.36 | id` | look it up |
| 19:45.38 | id` | :) |
| 19:46.02 | ToastTheif | Im trying |
| 19:46.32 | ToastTheif | I followed the link on the WoWWiki site |
| 19:46.38 | ToastTheif | but that didn't help |
| 19:46.42 | ToastTheif | so now Im googling =P |
| 19:48.22 | id` | http://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html |
| 19:48.23 | id` | sigh |
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| 19:48.58 | ToastTheif | If format starts with `!ยด, then the date is formatted in Coordinated Universal Time |
| 19:49.10 | ToastTheif | oh I will read that link |
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| 19:49.15 | ToastTheif | I was close, I was on lua.org! |
| 19:49.22 | id` | T_T |
| 19:50.24 | ToastTheif | %Ihour, using a 12-hour clock (11) [01-12] |
| 19:54.13 | ToastTheif | yay I win |
| 19:56.01 | ToastTheif | oi CG sucks |
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| 20:19.01 | Tain | Hrm. |
| 20:19.05 | Tain | I've read the whole Internet. |
| 20:19.08 | Tain | Now what do I do? |
| 20:19.40 | Tain | Hey Cairenn :) |
| 20:19.46 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:19.58 | ForgottenLords | I have a question about keybindings and edit boxes... anyone know why if I use a keybinding to show and give focus to an edit box, it puts the key binding inside the edit box? |
| 20:20.48 | Tain | What do you mean? The text of what the keybinding is? (ALT-R, etc.?) |
| 20:22.32 | ForgottenLords | yeah, if I put the binding as r |
| 20:22.37 | ForgottenLords | it puts an r in the edit box |
| 20:25.20 | ToastTheif | well |
| 20:25.29 | ToastTheif | you have to use ALT+key binding |
| 20:27.33 | pagefault | mysteriously my spam filters on gmail are better after asking when they would be improving them |
| 20:28.43 | SP|Sorren | hm |
| 20:28.47 | SP|Sorren | so time() is a function in lua? |
| 20:29.00 | SP|Sorren | would it be bad if i used a local time as my time variables for wow mods? O.o |
| 20:30.09 | ForgottenLords | so you suggest use a differant key binding? |
| 20:33.35 | Tain | Wait a keybinding for an editbox? |
| 20:33.46 | ToastTheif | you have to use ALT+key binding |
| 20:33.48 | Tain | I was thinking you meant a button. |
| 20:33.56 | ToastTheif | so if your key binding is r |
| 20:34.04 | ToastTheif | then press alt+r |
| 20:38.05 | id` | SP|Sorren: date() |
| 20:38.46 | Tain | Sure you can use local time as your variables. |
| 20:38.52 | Tain | Just don't run them two days in a row at the same time. |
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| 20:39.08 | id` | how would one use time as a variable? |
| 20:39.17 | id` | i mean, .. arr never mind.. |
| 20:39.33 | Tain | Well use current time as a key at least |
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| 21:40.53 | End | heheh, on thottbot's bliz post thingy, it lists slouken as "Client Feature Santa" |
| 22:01.51 | Cairenn | lalala |
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| 22:18.14 | Cairenn | hey Bela :) |
| 22:18.42 | Beladona | hey |
| 22:18.52 | Beladona | anyone have access to the test server? |
| 22:19.47 | Cairenn | won't come up for me |
| 22:19.59 | Cairenn | (just checked) |
| 22:20.11 | Beladona | you are patched to the latest test version though right |
| 22:20.17 | Cairenn | should be, yeah |
| 22:20.42 | Beladona | would you mind terribly running the custom interface kit, and sending me the default files from the test server? |
| 22:21.07 | Cairenn | data only, I'm presuming |
| 22:21.14 | Beladona | yeah |
| 22:21.28 | Beladona | everything in the interface folder basically |
| 22:21.38 | Beladona | WOW/WOWtest/Interface |
| 22:21.57 | Beladona | the stupid test patcher won't run under wine |
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| 22:26.17 | Beladona | better yet, Cair, you there? |
| 22:26.32 | id` | hehe |
| 22:26.33 | id` | :p |
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| 23:23.36 | futrtrubl | anyone have any feature requests for BEB? |
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| 23:24.07 | Ktron | BEB? |
| 23:24.16 | futrtrubl | ~BEB |
| 23:24.20 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, beb is BasicExperienceBar, a highly configurable WoW XP bar addon. Find it at your favorite WoW addon site. |
| 23:24.31 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 23:24.34 | Ktron | ah |
| 23:26.40 | Anduin|Coma | how is it basic if it's highly configurable? |
| 23:28.45 | futrtrubl | it once was basic, but has become highly configurable (bloat) |
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| 23:52.28 | Anduin|Headache | whee bloat ftw |