| 00:11.54 | Guillotine | does dismounting activate the global cooldown? |
| 00:11.54 | Iriel | I doubt it, it's just a buff cancel |
| 00:11.54 | Tain | Damn, I almost got through an entire addon without transplacing = for == |
| 00:15.14 | AnduinLothar | it's not global cooldown but u can't cast anythign for about 2 seconds |
| 00:18.49 | AnduinLothar | if u feel like playing with it u can grab IsMoutned and use /dismount in a macro |
| 00:18.49 | Guillotine | tain: haha. that cost me an hour of debugging one time... |
| 00:18.51 | Guillotine | so it pretty much is a global cooldown |
| 00:18.51 | Guillotine | you cant debuff + cast bear form in the same macro |
| 00:18.52 | AnduinLothar | mm, not mounting anyway |
| 00:18.52 | AnduinLothar | u can only use the spells u can normally cast on a mount, like aura change |
| 00:18.55 | AnduinLothar | new seal of command is definitely an improvement |
| 00:18.56 | AnduinLothar | lower crits, but procs more often and the judgement does instant holy damage + debuff for damage on stun |
| 00:18.57 | AnduinLothar | just did a 400 damage command judgement |
| 00:18.57 | Guillotine | hmmm. i didnt see anything in the patch notes about it, but key bindings are only saved on logour/ui reload now? |
| 00:18.57 | Iriel | It's in my 1.9 changes thread |
| 00:21.03 | Iriel | All I need is a ocuple of spare hours this weekend and I can finish the next release of StatRings |
| 00:30.50 | kergoth | ooh, statrings looks neat. havent tried that :) |
| 00:36.49 | AnduinLothar | anyone know anythign about the actionbar glow/highlight or cooldown spinner? |
| 00:38.33 | Guillotine | no |
| 00:39.57 | Legorol | ok, ehm, am i the only one or is the test interface number 10900? according to framexml.toc at least.. |
| 00:40.54 | Cair | it is |
| 00:41.44 | Legorol | hm.... suspicious new message on login |
| 00:41.52 | Legorol | i couldn't catch it all, something like "submitting non-personal data" |
| 00:42.15 | Legorol | i guess i better extract GlueXML too! |
| 00:42.28 | Cair | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=238150&s=new&tmp=1#new Post 206 |
| 00:42.28 | AnduinLothar | SW AH is directly accross fromt he entrance |
| 00:44.29 | AnduinLothar | think they added mailbox out front too |
| 00:56.59 | *** join/#wowi-lounge End (n=end@c-67-161-159-86.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 00:58.22 | Legorol | Can anyone confirm that the AddOns button still doesn't show up for them on a fresh install under 0.9 test? |
| 00:58.33 | Legorol | I am going to have to bug slouken.. |
| 00:58.52 | End | he has been bugged, although I don't remember whether he heard us |
| 00:59.13 | Cair | it's posted on US forums, but he is away most of the day so won't see it till later |
| 00:59.19 | End | there is a thread by Tem |
| 00:59.24 | Cair | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=269288&p=1&tmp=1#post269288 |
| 01:01.06 | Legorol | ah you guys beat me again.. |
| 01:01.15 | Legorol | thanks for clarifying :-) |
| 01:01.23 | Cair | :) |
| 01:01.26 | Legorol | i really should check forum first, ts ts |
| 01:01.33 | Cair | heh |
| 01:02.11 | Legorol | well looks like anything i ask here has been answered there already |
| 01:02.26 | Cair | or it gets answered here first, then posted there |
| 01:02.31 | Legorol | ok, how about this one: |
| 01:02.47 | Legorol | when you mouse over an AddOn on the new shiny addons list, if it's been enabled only for some characters, it says: |
| 01:02.55 | Legorol | "this *mod* has only been enabled for some characters" |
| 01:02.59 | Legorol | (emphasis on mod is mine) |
| 01:03.07 | Legorol | that is just bad style.. |
| 01:03.30 | Cair | why? |
| 01:04.23 | Legorol | they are called AddOns officially, not mods |
| 01:04.29 | Legorol | let's be consistent |
| 01:04.31 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 01:04.35 | AnduinLothar | picky picky |
| 01:04.35 | Mondinga | heh |
| 01:04.44 | Legorol | yes, picky, but i don't like to use the word mod |
| 01:04.44 | Cair | true enough, but to me I actually prefer mod |
| 01:04.46 | Mondinga | certainly not all are mods |
| 01:04.50 | End | I've heard a lot of names |
| 01:04.56 | Legorol | ok, it's a preference whether you like mod or addon |
| 01:04.57 | Cair | but not all are addons, either |
| 01:05.00 | AnduinLothar | go complain about something worth fixing |
| 01:05.00 | End | plugin, mod, addons, etc etc |
| 01:05.02 | Legorol | but the game interface uses the term "addon" |
| 01:05.11 | Legorol | it just wouldn't pass QA on my end if it wasn't consistent ;-) |
| 01:05.19 | Mondinga | AddOn is more of a proprietary term int his case, theyre all AddOns~ |
| 01:05.22 | AnduinLothar | QA prolly never saw it |
| 01:05.49 | Tain | TrackAlert v0.1, now open for business. |
| 01:05.51 | Legorol | everything's worth fixing, and this wasn't a complaint but a question whether someone posted it yet, so i don't double-post ;-) |
| 01:05.52 | Tain | http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10215#10215 |
| 01:06.05 | AnduinLothar | use the search feature leg :P |
| 01:06.11 | Legorol | if it was working! |
| 01:06.22 | AnduinLothar | google: site... |
| 01:06.24 | Legorol | and yes, that was a complaint |
| 01:06.35 | Cair | Tain ... :p |
| 01:06.50 | Legorol | hm, google is my friend, true |
| 01:06.53 | Tain | Yes Cair |
| 01:07.15 | Tain | It's going up on the wowi beta area as well. :) |
| 01:07.40 | Cair | I'd actually say that all AddOns are, indeed, Mods, but not all Mods are Addons |
| 01:07.44 | AnduinLothar | did u shrink the scale of the ui to like a cm wide? |
| 01:07.54 | AnduinLothar | scale of the minimap* |
| 01:08.25 | Tain | Set scale of the Minimap to 0.05 |
| 01:08.32 | AnduinLothar | yummy |
| 01:09.00 | Osagasu | I always thought of mods as things that modified current architecture |
| 01:09.06 | Osagasu | not all addons do that |
| 01:09.17 | Tain | Ah *grumble* no screenshot |
| 01:09.33 | Cair | You do realize that Sam is gonna yell at you guys for it, right? |
| 01:09.35 | kergoth | meh, statrings 0.4 goes boom on /ring :) |
| 01:09.43 | Tain | Who for at what? |
| 01:09.44 | AnduinLothar | some addons are just glorified macros |
| 01:10.02 | AnduinLothar | some modify existing sturcture |
| 01:10.03 | Cair | I know we figured out a way to do it that doesn't technically break the rules, but you just know that they aren't gonna like it |
| 01:10.17 | AnduinLothar | some make wrappers to simulate existing structure more intuitively |
| 01:10.38 | Cair | I'd say that all modify the current existing UI as provided by Blizz, but not all *add on to* it |
| 01:10.46 | Cair | hence, they are all mods, but not all addons |
| 01:10.48 | AnduinLothar | some emulate logic to expediate decision making |
| 01:11.05 | AnduinLothar | and some are deliberate hacks |
| 01:11.13 | Osagasu | things like that are done to see how far they can be pushed |
| 01:11.14 | Legorol | Cair, what about those that just add on to it, but not modify anything? |
| 01:11.25 | Legorol | i'd say some are AddOns, some are mods, and there should be a more generic term ;-) |
| 01:11.26 | Cair | yet they *are* modifying something |
| 01:11.29 | Tain | Oh of course, Cair. I know that, and I'll get rid of it without a question if anyone wants. |
| 01:11.37 | Legorol | let's say i write tic-tac-toe |
| 01:11.37 | Cair | as soon as you've added something to it, you've modified it |
| 01:11.46 | Legorol | ok, i guess in that sense they are mods to WoW |
| 01:11.55 | Legorol | not necessarily to the UI |
| 01:12.10 | Cair | the only way it isn't modified in any form is if you have done *nothing* to it |
| 01:12.16 | Legorol | personally, to me the word "mod" sounds a bit hackish |
| 01:12.21 | Cair | I agree |
| 01:12.23 | Legorol | AddOn sounds more stylish, but that's just personal preference |
| 01:12.32 | Legorol | don't like AddOn too much either |
| 01:12.51 | Tain | In fact I'd send it direct to Slouken and say, "Hey look! Neat huh? Can we keep it?" |
| 01:12.51 | Cair | I'm just having fun explaining why, to me, Mod is actually more correct of the terms they use |
| 01:12.57 | Legorol | so, about the use of "mod", do i make a new thread on US UI forum or post in 1.9 changes thread? |
| 01:13.05 | Legorol | i see your point, Cair |
| 01:13.16 | Legorol | from a logical point of view, mod makes more sense |
| 01:13.22 | Cair | ;) |
| 01:13.22 | Legorol | i like the word addon better ;-) |
| 01:13.27 | Cair | me too |
| 01:13.31 | Iriel | I'd mention it in the 1.9 thread |
| 01:13.37 | Legorol | yah, thought so |
| 01:13.42 | Iriel | it's not really worthy of 'discussion', and it's a 1.9 bug |
| 01:13.59 | Legorol | so, is the 1.9 changes thread also considered a 1.9 bug report thread? |
| 01:14.19 | Legorol | would it be more constructive to open a 1.9 bug report thread where we can collect confirmed bugs, especially minor ones? |
| 01:14.24 | Iriel | If one of the 1.9 changes is broken, then yes. |
| 01:14.29 | Iriel | Well, there usually aren't THAT many |
| 01:14.30 | Cair | Tain, you *know* I'm going to be bringing it to his attention, if for no other reason to point out to him that he needs to hang out in this channel more so that when we are busy figuring out ways around things, he can nip it in the bud ;) |
| 01:14.43 | Osagasu | O>O |
| 01:14.50 | Iriel | The test realm forum is more appropriate for general bugs |
| 01:14.57 | Osagasu | I just someone started downloading from the fileplanet subscriber servers |
| 01:15.09 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Parak (n=profi@user-12hdr8d.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:15.10 | Osagasu | *somehow |
| 01:15.17 | Cair | neat |
| 01:15.30 | Tain | I hope he looks at it right away! :) And I'll be happy to explain exactly what I did if he has any questions to easier make it not work in the future. |
| 01:16.23 | AnduinLothar | then i can tell him i'll rewrite his chat system if he lets me |
| 01:16.38 | Cair | I haven't heard from him at all since the note that he was going to be out most of the day, so I'd say he isn't back yet, or else is heading straight home :p |
| 01:16.39 | Osagasu | for the betterment of Sky, no doubt. |
| 01:16.53 | Cair | ? Legorol? |
| 01:16.59 | Legorol | props to Cair for organising/setting it up and bringing it to the attention of all relevant people |
| 01:17.12 | Cair | eh, I should have done it ages back |
| 01:17.15 | Legorol | it seems to have brought together the different communities out there |
| 01:17.24 | Osagasu | organizing? in this channel? |
| 01:17.25 | AnduinLothar | Osagasu> betterment of Sky would be betterment for the community would it not? |
| 01:17.28 | Legorol | any major groups not represented here? |
| 01:17.37 | Legorol | what about CT, is it represented? |
| 01:17.42 | Osagasu | Cide. |
| 01:17.45 | AnduinLothar | cide's been around |
| 01:17.46 | Cair | aye, Cide is usually in |
| 01:17.49 | Osagasu | He's normally in here |
| 01:17.51 | Legorol | goodie |
| 01:17.52 | Iriel | I'm still trying to mitigate the damage it causes to my work. (The channel, that is) |
| 01:18.01 | Cair | *chuckle* |
| 01:18.03 | AnduinLothar | clad's the closest we have to an ace rep tho |
| 01:18.10 | Legorol | Iriel, you must be getting no work done as it is, with the amount you post on UI forum ;-) |
| 01:18.11 | Cair | errr, no |
| 01:18.28 | Cair | Kael is frequently in here too |
| 01:18.32 | Legorol | i wouldn't really want to think of people as "reps" |
| 01:18.34 | Iriel | Heh, my activity there tends to be pretty bursty |
| 01:18.37 | AnduinLothar | only seen him once or twice |
| 01:18.38 | Legorol | it's just nice to see a big warm hub |
| 01:18.48 | Cair | yup :) |
| 01:18.54 | Cair | I'm glad folks are using it, it was needed |
| 01:19.02 | Cair | neutral territory |
| 01:19.03 | Iriel | this is more of a constant presence |
| 01:19.05 | AnduinLothar | never sticks around long enough for me to talk to him |
| 01:19.06 | Iriel | so it's, kinda, bad |
| 01:19.15 | Cair | heh, sorry sweetie |
| 01:19.27 | Legorol | i just wish my IRC client at work wasn't so bad and i could set up multiple servers/channel to autojoin |
| 01:19.30 | Cair | want me to ban you from the channel during work hours? |
| 01:19.44 | Iriel | nono, I can take care of myself. 8-) |
| 01:19.47 | AnduinLothar | or school hours.. i might actually pass my classes |
| 01:19.50 | Cair | damn |
| 01:19.58 | Cair | here I was looking forward to picking on you |
| 01:20.03 | Cair | and you take away all my fun |
| 01:20.08 | Iriel | That's easier to do when i'm HERE tho |
| 01:20.26 | Cair | ;) |
| 01:20.32 | Legorol | hm, this per-character AddOns list is neat |
| 01:20.33 | Osagasu | meh |
| 01:20.40 | Osagasu | I'm going to pass one class this semester |
| 01:20.41 | Legorol | looks like it doesn't even save a global list, only per-character ones |
| 01:20.52 | AnduinLothar | how's that gonna work with khaos leg? |
| 01:21.03 | Legorol | we have to think about that |
| 01:21.12 | AnduinLothar | alex hasn't gotten on yet so he doesn't have changes in |
| 01:21.13 | Legorol | you would have to have Khaos enabled for all characters |
| 01:21.23 | Osagasu | Who ARE you, anyways? |
| 01:21.28 | Legorol | me? ehm... |
| 01:21.32 | Legorol | dunno |
| 01:21.38 | AnduinLothar | he's part of the cosmos team if he'll admit to it |
| 01:21.46 | Legorol | never! |
| 01:21.49 | End | lol |
| 01:21.53 | AnduinLothar | but labels are bad, eh |
| 01:22.00 | Osagasu | no, its okay, I use Cosmos when it suits me, myself. :P |
| 01:22.28 | Legorol | ok, so i don't have an illustrious resume |
| 01:22.37 | Legorol | on Cosmos team yes, generally bugging others to fix bugs :-) |
| 01:22.40 | AnduinLothar | he wrote EquipCompare |
| 01:23.05 | AnduinLothar | which btw seems to have no test realm issues btw |
| 01:23.06 | Osagasu | mmmhmmm |
| 01:23.18 | Osagasu | IEF has issues. |
| 01:23.20 | AnduinLothar | tho i have an outstanding one u haven't been around to fix |
| 01:23.23 | Osagasu | it won't open! |
| 01:23.23 | Legorol | I occasionally post on the US UI forums, does that count? |
| 01:23.27 | AnduinLothar | ya, ief button doesn;t work |
| 01:23.40 | AnduinLothar | ull have to manually open the frame |
| 01:23.43 | Cair | Yeah, I was trying to help get Alex on, too, neither one of us could get through to get him copied over before they shut down for the day though =/ |
| 01:23.58 | Legorol | in EU we have it good, we get to copy lvl 60s |
| 01:24.05 | Legorol | it is my understanding this time we have epic gear |
| 01:24.18 | AnduinLothar | we just copy our own units |
| 01:24.20 | Legorol | you have to understand that i don't actually have a lvl 60 char yet :-) |
| 01:24.25 | Legorol | so it's fun |
| 01:24.31 | Cair | funny, neither do I |
| 01:24.40 | AnduinLothar | leg, there's an issue with EQ that sometimes shows an item when i mouse over a player ingame |
| 01:24.47 | Legorol | oh? |
| 01:24.53 | AnduinLothar | not sure what causes it |
| 01:25.10 | AnduinLothar | but it basicly pops up just liek a random item |
| 01:25.42 | Iriel | I'd blame Weevils |
| 01:26.02 | Cair | oh noes! |
| 01:26.06 | Cair | weevils! |
| 01:26.06 | AnduinLothar | works fine when i'm mousing over a frame or item, just ingame messes up occationally |
| 01:26.51 | Iriel | Ooh! Patch for Civ 4! |
| 01:27.01 | pagefault | 1.9 sucks |
| 01:27.03 | Codayus | Interesting; I've never seen that behaviour. Using...hmm, EquipCompare 2.9.4. |
| 01:27.03 | pagefault | :( |
| 01:27.09 | AnduinLothar | 1.9 is uber :) |
| 01:27.22 | pagefault | if you are a paladain |
| 01:27.26 | pagefault | err paladin |
| 01:27.31 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 01:27.33 | pagefault | but they nerfed warlocks again |
| 01:27.47 | End | I can't get the test patch to patch :( |
| 01:27.49 | AnduinLothar | i have 2.9.4... maybe an addon hook conflict? |
| 01:28.06 | pagefault | they better nerf someone real bad in 1.10 |
| 01:28.07 | AnduinLothar | does EQ use Sea leg? |
| 01:28.10 | pagefault | or I will be pissed |
| 01:28.32 | End | yeah, they will nerf warlocks |
| 01:28.36 | AnduinLothar | 1.10 should be priest buff i believe |
| 01:28.49 | pagefault | like they need one |
| 01:29.09 | Iriel | Oh, in case anyone here doesn't read the 1.9 change thread on the forum, do note that the UI version numbering system changed, 1.9 is 109000 |
| 01:29.15 | Iriel | I mean 10900 8-) |
| 01:29.33 | pagefault | but I have my shard bag!@#$@!# |
| 01:29.36 | pagefault | everything is forgiven |
| 01:29.37 | pagefault | </not> |
| 01:29.43 | Iriel | Though I suspect you're all capable of reading the FrameXML.toc |
| 01:29.57 | Cair | Uh oh, I know this sound |
| 01:30.14 | Cair | this is the sound of Iriel getting ready to log out and head home |
| 01:30.21 | Iriel | I'm already home 8-) |
| 01:30.30 | Iriel | I didn't quite make it to the office today |
| 01:30.31 | Cair | Oh, well, cool then, you don't have to log out then |
| 01:30.32 | Legorol | Iriel, did you get my respone to your PM? |
| 01:30.38 | pagefault | did the pally sheild get nerfed or what |
| 01:30.42 | AnduinLothar | nope |
| 01:30.44 | pagefault | bs |
| 01:30.54 | Iriel | Legorol : no |
| 01:30.55 | Tain | Ok, also put the dependancies in big bright orange on WoWI, and listed them twice, so people hopefully won't miss it. :) |
| 01:30.56 | AnduinLothar | tho there's a debuff from the epl mobs that neutrilizes it |
| 01:31.08 | pagefault | this sucksj |
| 01:31.17 | pagefault | 1.9 WORST PATCH EVAR |
| 01:31.20 | pagefault | I go cancel now |
| 01:31.22 | pagefault | hehe |
| 01:31.24 | End | neutralizes how? |
| 01:31.40 | AnduinLothar | doesn't make u invulnerable |
| 01:31.42 | Legorol | Iriel, should've gotten it now? |
| 01:31.57 | AnduinLothar | u can cast but if u have the curse on it doens't do anythign |
| 01:32.01 | pagefault | soul pouch is a pos |
| 01:32.06 | AnduinLothar | except makes u slower |
| 01:32.15 | AnduinLothar | or unable to attack melle |
| 01:32.15 | pagefault | mmm fruit |
| 01:32.19 | Legorol | does the soul bag take the place of a normal bag like the hunters ammo pouch? |
| 01:32.23 | pagefault | yes |
| 01:32.27 | Legorol | ouch |
| 01:32.27 | pagefault | there is almost no point in having it |
| 01:32.36 | Cair | hunters would scream if it didn't |
| 01:32.50 | Legorol | i wouldn't personally.. |
| 01:32.51 | pagefault | it took them 1 year to figure this out |
| 01:32.55 | pagefault | way to go blue |
| 01:32.55 | Legorol | i don't mind if someone has it good, just because i don't |
| 01:33.06 | Legorol | the more people happier the better |
| 01:33.18 | Legorol | unless someone's having it good at my expense! |
| 01:33.27 | pagefault | I think all warlocks should just summon their infernal and let them go wild in the auction house tor protest :) |
| 01:34.16 | End | which action house? |
| 01:34.27 | Cair | bleh, I really should run out to the store before the storm starts, but it's cold out there! *whines* |
| 01:34.31 | pagefault | oh well |
| 01:34.42 | pagefault | the CoS "nerf" I guess is a big deal |
| 01:34.50 | pagefault | but to be honest I never used CoS that much anyway |
| 01:34.52 | Legorol | AnduinLothar, in response to your earlier question about EQ: it doesn't use Sea, and it doesn't hook any functions |
| 01:35.04 | Legorol | the only hooking it does it does temporarily for 3 lines then unhooks |
| 01:35.06 | Tain | It's cooooold |
| 01:35.17 | Iriel | Does it unhook safely? |
| 01:35.17 | Legorol | and even that is obsolete and i should remove it if i wasn't so lazy |
| 01:35.18 | pagefault | I guess warlock funtime is over though |
| 01:35.22 | pagefault | and it's now pally funtime |
| 01:35.25 | Legorol | Iriel, should do |
| 01:35.27 | pagefault | until the next patch when they get nerfed |
| 01:35.29 | Iriel | That's one of my pet peeves at the moment |
| 01:35.31 | pagefault | and it's some other class funtime |
| 01:35.46 | Legorol | it uses standard oldfunc = currentfunc; currentfunc = bla...; somestuff; currentfunc = oldfunc |
| 01:36.03 | Iriel | Hm, no currentfunc == oldfunc check? |
| 01:36.18 | Legorol | it doesn't check, although i don't see what could change inbetween |
| 01:36.21 | Iriel | If you only do it for a tiny moment, you'er PROBABLY safe |
| 01:36.22 | Legorol | somestuff is about 3 lines of my own code |
| 01:36.32 | AnduinLothar | sounds unsafe |
| 01:36.33 | Legorol | anyways, it's just archaic toolitp money protection code |
| 01:36.38 | Legorol | i should've removed it ages ago |
| 01:36.49 | AnduinLothar | do so, it migth fix tooltip issues |
| 01:36.55 | pagefault | oh well |
| 01:37.02 | pagefault | maybe I should roll a pally now :) |
| 01:37.09 | Legorol | Iriel, looks like you don't get the responses i am sending in a PM |
| 01:37.25 | AnduinLothar | u have to enable pms |
| 01:37.26 | Legorol | i typed the response in the query window that popped up when you messaged me, using mIRC here |
| 01:37.50 | Iriel | Hm, can someone /msg me to see if my IRC is busted? |
| 01:37.59 | Codayus | Legorol: You haven't registered your nick, have you... |
| 01:38.02 | AnduinLothar | done |
| 01:38.03 | Legorol | nope |
| 01:38.08 | AnduinLothar | then u cant pm |
| 01:38.08 | Iriel | That worked |
| 01:38.14 | Legorol | ? |
| 01:38.16 | Legorol | seriously? |
| 01:38.17 | Iriel | Hm, just /msg me lego -- /msg iriel Whatever |
| 01:38.18 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.24 | Codayus | That's the issue, you can't send PMs unles your registered... |
| 01:38.33 | Legorol | i can't send queries without registering? oh well, ok |
| 01:38.48 | Tain | You should register. All the cool kids are doing it. |
| 01:38.51 | Tain | You know you want to do it. |
| 01:39.10 | Iriel | Damn, I havent checked my spam quarantine in a while, 4500 messages |
| 01:39.15 | Cair | ROFL |
| 01:39.21 | Legorol | right, let me try again, Iriel |
| 01:39.33 | Cair | Legorol: then do /msg nickserv secure on |
| 01:39.39 | Legorol | ok |
| 01:39.41 | Cair | I believe that's the right message |
| 01:39.48 | Legorol | what does that do? |
| 01:39.49 | Cair | prevents anyone from stealing your name |
| 01:40.03 | Tain | Plus if someone steals your computer it hunts them down. |
| 01:40.21 | Tain | I might be making that part up. |
| 01:40.23 | Cair | And makes sure that your plants are watered, too |
| 01:40.31 | Legorol | hm, /msg nickserv help secure claims there is no such command |
| 01:40.43 | Tain | do "set secure on" |
| 01:40.49 | Iriel | Oh for crying out load, bitchx has the most retarded auto-ignore |
| 01:41.05 | pagefault | irssi ftw |
| 01:41.05 | Tain | Yeah Iriel, the default is stupidly low. |
| 01:41.29 | Tain | You have to up the lines / seconds it'll ignore on, or turn it off. |
| 01:42.13 | Cair | hey, wb cladhaire |
| 01:42.21 | AnduinLothar | clad, u get my email? |
| 01:42.22 | cladhaire | yeah i'm kinda here |
| 01:42.26 | cladhaire | we're doing MC with a low amount of people |
| 01:42.32 | Cair | ah |
| 01:42.38 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: Yeah.. but this week was rough at work.. i only briefly looked at it. |
| 01:42.43 | AnduinLothar | no worries |
| 01:42.49 | Legorol | Iriel, did you get the PM this time? |
| 01:43.04 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: Suffice it to say you use a signifigantly different method than I.. so I'm trying to look at you rcode without my thought process in the back of my head =) |
| 01:43.16 | AnduinLothar | of course |
| 01:43.36 | AnduinLothar | i wouldn't want to be boring and unoriginal ;) |
| 01:43.43 | cladhaire | heheh =) |
| 01:43.49 | cladhaire | worse coms to worse, we give each other some fun ideas =) |
| 01:43.50 | Legorol | AnduinLothar, with EQ, do you have either Ctrl or Alt key mode enabled? |
| 01:43.52 | AnduinLothar | j/k the method's been around for ages, i just amplified it |
| 01:43.56 | AnduinLothar | no leg |
| 01:44.17 | Legorol | any tooltip mods that modify the text of GameTooltip when mouseovering players? |
| 01:44.23 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 01:44.37 | AnduinLothar | khaos tooltips and mobinfo2 |
| 01:44.47 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=626 if you'd like to take a look at my prelim method |
| 01:44.50 | AnduinLothar | and the lib for auctioneer |
| 01:44.59 | Legorol | when the bug occurs next time, could you please make a note of the exact text in GameTooltip? |
| 01:45.09 | Legorol | the way EQ works it scans GameTooltip to see if it's an item |
| 01:45.15 | Legorol | it could be beleiving it is when it shouldn't |
| 01:45.15 | AnduinLothar | k, it's pretty random afaik |
| 01:45.28 | Legorol | right |
| 01:45.31 | AnduinLothar | what exactly does it check? |
| 01:45.39 | Legorol | TextLeft2 to TextLeft5 |
| 01:45.46 | AnduinLothar | for what? |
| 01:45.48 | Legorol | and tries to see if any one of them is a known item slot |
| 01:46.03 | Legorol | e.g. Shoulder, Hands, Wrist etc. |
| 01:46.03 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 01:46.06 | AnduinLothar | hmm |
| 01:46.09 | AnduinLothar | regex? |
| 01:46.12 | Legorol | nope |
| 01:46.20 | AnduinLothar | global strings? |
| 01:46.25 | Legorol | nope |
| 01:46.29 | Iriel | Could that accidently pick up someone's guild name? |
| 01:46.32 | Legorol | t = TextLeftX |
| 01:46.38 | AnduinLothar | might iriel |
| 01:46.39 | Legorol | if EQTable[t] then bla |
| 01:46.46 | Iriel | So a guild called 'Hand of God' might set it off? |
| 01:46.47 | Legorol | it has to be an exact match |
| 01:46.49 | AnduinLothar | where's the qtable? |
| 01:46.50 | Iriel | Oh |
| 01:46.51 | Legorol | yes it could |
| 01:46.57 | Legorol | hm.. |
| 01:46.59 | Legorol | no it coulnd't |
| 01:46.59 | AnduinLothar | that could be it then |
| 01:47.02 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 01:47.13 | Legorol | it has to be "Hands", "Hands of God" won't trigger it |
| 01:47.18 | Legorol | it uses the full text as an index into the table |
| 01:47.39 | AnduinLothar | if u used sea u could make sure it was called before the guild was added |
| 01:47.41 | Legorol | the table in question is global, called EquipCompare_ItemTypes |
| 01:48.13 | Legorol | hm actually i lied, i do do some hooking |
| 01:48.30 | Legorol | i forgot i added a minor bugfix a while back that involved a conflict with FlightPaths or some such |
| 01:48.34 | AnduinLothar | ok well i got work so i gtg |
| 01:48.56 | AnduinLothar | prolly wont be on much next few days, going home |
| 01:49.03 | Cair | have fun Karl :) |
| 01:49.09 | Iriel | Take care and enjoy. |
| 01:49.10 | Cair | Happy Thanksgiving |
| 01:50.07 | Iriel | I'll be on and off also over the next few days, especially tomorrow since I have to cook. |
| 01:50.26 | Cair | *nod* |
| 01:51.48 | Guillotine | g2g as well guys. ttyl |
| 01:51.56 | Cair | later Guillotine :) |
| 01:51.56 | Guillotine | and happy thanksgiving for those of you in the U.S. :) |
| 01:55.27 | Cair | afk a few, back shortly |
| 01:58.17 | Legorol | Interesting new Global functions: |
| 01:58.18 | Legorol | > GetLFGResults> GetLFGTypeEntries> GetLFGTypes |
| 01:58.23 | Legorol | > GetNumLFGResults |
| 01:58.27 | Legorol | > LFGQuery |
| 01:58.28 | Iriel | yeah |
| 01:58.44 | Legorol | Iriel, have you posted your usual changenotes yet? |
| 01:58.47 | Iriel | I haven't had a chance to try them out yet. |
| 01:58.57 | Legorol | just finished scanning globals.. |
| 01:59.08 | Iriel | I haven't done the "Actual" summary yet, but I did do all my scans this morning |
| 01:59.33 | Iriel | So I have most of the data i need, though I still have to update my parser to count return values on functions |
| 01:59.38 | Tain | New Lost! |
| 01:59.41 | Iriel | since it misses those |
| 01:59.56 | Iriel | (GetRaidRosterInfo and the friend list equivalent have a new last arg) |
| 02:00.15 | Legorol | any way to check for that except for looking at Blizz Lua code? i suppose not |
| 02:01.00 | Iriel | Not that I know of, though maybe it's discernable by scanning the executable.. I dont get beyond scanning for strings there, not really all that familar with x86 code |
| 02:02.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Gello (n=chatzill@pool-70-16-71-176.port.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:02.31 | Gello | heya |
| 02:03.09 | Iriel | Hey there |
| 02:03.10 | Gello | anyone here play a druid? no druid guildmates online and have a question about forms and gear? specifically any timing considerations for swapping gear when you change forms |
| 02:03.27 | Iriel | Hm, I dont play one high enough to have to care |
| 02:03.41 | End | I do |
| 02:03.58 | Gello | i heard when you go bear form you're in combat mode for a while, like a warrior's bloodlust. is that true and if so how long? |
| 02:04.08 | End | only if you have the talent |
| 02:04.16 | End | I -think- only if you have the talent |
| 02:04.35 | End | I have the talent...it gives rage or energy on shift |
| 02:04.42 | Gello | cool looking it up |
| 02:04.45 | End | and I think it is 10 or 20 seconds |
| 02:04.51 | End | before I leave combat |
| 02:05.01 | Gello | ah cool thanks! and that's just as you change into any form? |
| 02:05.05 | End | the only reason it puts you in combat is so you don't lose rage |
| 02:05.15 | End | I think only bear |
| 02:05.28 | End | since bear has rage, and rage decays out of combat |
| 02:05.38 | Gello | yeah |
| 02:06.45 | End | (It's the Furor talent in case you wondered.) |
| 02:08.24 | Gello | oh in restoration tree thanks |
| 02:08.33 | End | yup |
| 02:08.47 | End | and I just checked, it's only bear that gets put in combat |
| 02:08.59 | Gello | cool that makes it easy |
| 02:09.21 | Gello | are there any other combat-mode or timing considerations for druids swapping gear? |
| 02:09.35 | End | I can't think of any |
| 02:13.21 | Cair | Gello! |
| 02:13.43 | Iriel | Anyone know where 1.9 stores the addon on/off settings? |
| 02:13.54 | Gello | heya cair |
| 02:15.25 | Gello | there's a new AddOns.txt in each character folder that lists enabled addons. i don't see one for "all" but it could be when "all" is chosen it just writes the same file for all characters |
| 02:16.10 | Iriel | Aha, there it is.. it doesn't create it by default |
| 02:16.14 | Iriel | Thanks |
| 02:18.39 | Iriel | So the character list you get on the addon panel is just the realm you're on |
| 02:18.53 | Iriel | so if you have the same name on several realms they can have different addon setups |
| 02:19.06 | Gello | yeah it's a neat setup |
| 02:19.53 | Iriel | I'm happy they moved the chat cache to be realm+charName |
| 02:20.52 | Iriel | Well, time to head off to get dinner.. See you all later (Happy thanksgiving for tomorrow in case I dont make it back on tonight) |
| 02:21.10 | Cair | Night Iriel, Happy Thanksgiving and have a good few days :) |
| 02:21.38 | cladhaire | Evening Iriel, Happy Thanksgiving! |
| 02:24.42 | Stylpe | Is there an event similar to OnUpdate? |
| 02:25.21 | Gello | in what way? |
| 02:25.46 | Gello | that gets run all the time? or that stops when frame is hidden? hmm not really |
| 02:26.56 | Stylpe | Just that runs every frame |
| 02:27.10 | Gello | oh event. i don't think there is |
| 02:27.17 | Stylpe | It's for testing a script in LuaSlinger |
| 02:27.53 | Gello | you could hook an existing OnUpdate, like WorldFrame_OnUpdate |
| 02:28.02 | *** join/#wowi-lounge net (n=net@m174.net81-65-76.noos.fr) |
| 02:28.48 | Cair | net as in net of curse gaming? |
| 02:28.52 | net | yep :) |
| 02:28.57 | Cair | rarr! welcome |
| 02:29.02 | net | Hallu |
| 02:29.10 | net | Was reading your forums and saw this channel :) |
| 02:29.22 | Cair | you're more than welcome :) |
| 02:31.59 | ToastTheif | http://www.freewebs.com/toastasd/wordstudy.htm |
| 02:33.50 | ToastTheif | I was bored |
| 02:37.05 | Cair | should put that time and energy to your class work |
| 02:37.16 | Cair | :p |
| 02:37.22 | ToastTheif | screw class work |
| 02:37.47 | ToastTheif | and that only look 2.5-3ish hours to do |
| 02:38.07 | ToastTheif | the long part was finding which words placed where =P |
| 02:46.36 | ToastTheif | bbl |
| 02:48.04 | Gello | anyone on test now? if so can you do this: /script message(MouseIsOver(GetMouseFocus())) -- it should say 1 |
| 02:48.05 | net | Just thinking about the old school time make me sick :) |
| 02:48.36 | net | Gello-> tested and worked |
| 02:49.02 | net | it just crashed my bsplayer tho, not just if their is something linked to this :) |
| 02:49.04 | Gello | cool thanks. i get nothing it's very odd |
| 02:49.38 | Legorol | Gello: that doesn't always work |
| 02:49.49 | Legorol | GetMouseFocus() can return nil on very few occasions |
| 02:50.00 | Legorol | i had problems with that in the past and never tracked down why |
| 02:50.05 | Gello | hmm |
| 02:50.43 | Gello | well MouseIsOver(nil) gives an error |
| 02:51.13 | Legorol | ok i don't remember exactly what the problem was or how it was reproduced |
| 02:51.49 | Gello | i'm using direct frame names, also. MouseIsOver(WorldFrame) |
| 02:52.04 | Gello | oh that one returns 1. PlayerFrame and others return nil for me hmm |
| 02:52.33 | net | i did around 20 times, no error |
| 02:52.36 | net | +ity |
| 02:52.52 | Legorol | Gello: here too |
| 02:52.57 | Legorol | i tried with PlayerFrame and getting nil |
| 02:53.12 | Gello | oh i believe you. trying to track down why I'm getting that |
| 02:53.38 | Legorol | MouseIsOver is a Lua defined thing in UIParent.lua |
| 02:53.45 | Legorol | it could be an issue with scaling calculation |
| 02:53.55 | Gello | you both use UIScale? |
| 02:54.37 | Gello | when i turn on UIScale it starts to work all of a sudden (message(MouseIsOver(GetMouseFocus())) that is |
| 02:54.53 | net | i installed the testclient and modified nothing |
| 02:54.59 | net | so just default setup |
| 02:55.48 | Legorol | Gello, i think i know what the problem is, it looks like a Blizz bug |
| 02:55.55 | Legorol | MouseIsOver is using |
| 02:55.55 | Legorol | x = x / frame:GetScale(); |
| 02:55.55 | Legorol | y = y / frame:GetScale(); |
| 02:56.09 | Legorol | because of the changes to the frame scaling code, GetScale() now returns relative scale or somesuch |
| 02:56.12 | Legorol | its behaviour has changed |
| 02:56.21 | Legorol | and MouseIsOver doesn't seem to have been recoded to take that into account |
| 02:57.17 | Gello | i think you may be on to something. seeing if i can isolate when it works and when it doesn't |
| 02:57.25 | Legorol | MouseIsOver should be using GetEffectiveScale |
| 02:57.33 | Legorol | which i beleive is not available in the current test version yet |
| 02:57.43 | Legorol | i can predict when it should work/shouldn't |
| 02:57.49 | Legorol | it should work when you have UIScale on and set to 1, |
| 02:57.58 | Legorol | or if your resolution is one of those that sets the UI scale to 1 |
| 02:58.03 | Legorol | (i think 800x600 is one of those) |
| 02:58.13 | Legorol | at other resolutions, it will be borked, e.g. at 1280x1024 |
| 02:58.22 | Legorol | let me know if you observe otherwise |
| 02:59.17 | Gello | yeah 1152x864 is my standard resolution. just killed all addons and MouseIsOver works on worldframe and action bar but not minimap or playerframe |
| 03:01.14 | Legorol | it works over worldframe because it has a scale of 1 |
| 03:01.25 | Legorol | even over playerframe it will work if you position the mouse just right |
| 03:01.29 | Legorol | but you have to hit the spot |
| 03:01.36 | Legorol | the calculation is a bit off because of the scaling |
| 03:03.23 | Gello | ah yep |
| 03:03.32 | Legorol | e.g. if you position near the top left of playerframe, it works |
| 03:03.34 | Legorol | but not near bottom right |
| 03:03.49 | Gello | i made a macro to print MouseIsOver(PlayerFrame) and i get nil on playerframe but 1 in very topleft |
| 03:05.39 | Gello | in windowed non-maximized it seems to work reliably (1 always on all parts of PlayerFrame) |
| 03:06.40 | Gello | oh just for lower resolutions 800x600 and 1024x768 |
| 03:08.24 | Legorol | ok, so it is as i thought: |
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| 03:08.40 | Legorol | GetBottom and GetTop for PlayerFrame correctly returns 750/850 respectively, |
| 03:08.42 | Legorol | independent of scale |
| 03:09.07 | Legorol | however, CursorPosition().y/GetScale() may not fall into this, because GetScale() always returns 1 |
| 03:09.36 | Legorol | i meant PlayerFrame:GetScale() |
| 03:09.58 | Gello | scales always confuse me heh. i usually end up just multiplying or dividing by UIParent:GetScale until it works |
| 03:11.26 | Legorol | Ok here is how scales work: imagine a ruler attached to your screen |
| 03:11.43 | Legorol | this ruler has tickmarks indicating say 100, 200, 300 pixels |
| 03:11.53 | Legorol | when you increase the scale of an object, imagine streching the ruler out |
| 03:12.03 | Legorol | and when you decrease the scale of something, you compress the ruler |
| 03:12.28 | Legorol | methods such as GetLeft, GetRight, GetTop etc. return values relative to this ruler |
| 03:12.43 | Legorol | as a result, they are usually scale independent |
| 03:13.03 | Legorol | e.g. if you have a look at PlayerFrame:GetRight(), it's always the same number (212) independent of the UI scale you set in options |
| 03:13.34 | Legorol | on the other hand, GetCursorPosition() returns a pair of values that are absolute |
| 03:13.47 | Legorol | and are dependent on where the mouse is relative to your screen |
| 03:13.57 | Gello | so you'd divide by the UIParent scale? |
| 03:14.00 | Legorol | yes |
| 03:14.17 | Legorol | which is exactly what MosueIsOver is doing |
| 03:14.20 | Gello | hehe that was a guess. i would've tried either multiply or divide. but i understand the concept a little better thanks |
| 03:14.27 | Legorol | the only reason why it's getting it wrong is that the behaviour of :GetScale() has changed in 1.9 |
| 03:14.38 | Legorol | the reason for dividing is this: |
| 03:14.38 | Esamynn | I was under the impression that GetRight, GetTop, etc. returned absolute values relative to the screen as well |
| 03:14.46 | Legorol | easier to understand if you imagine increasing the scale to 2 |
| 03:14.52 | Legorol | that streches the ruler out |
| 03:15.04 | Gello | oh yeah so it's half the screen |
| 03:15.07 | Gello | er half the ruler |
| 03:15.08 | Legorol | so if the mouse is at position 100 according to GetCursorPos, |
| 03:15.17 | Legorol | it would be at 50 according to the ruler |
| 03:15.23 | Legorol | so you have to divide by the scale |
| 03:15.32 | Legorol | that's how i always remember it, by thinking about a scale of 2 |
| 03:15.39 | Legorol | and yes, i still confuse it sometimes :D |
| 03:16.00 | Legorol | anyways i will post for slouken |
| 03:16.41 | Gello | ah cool. i'll let you post since you can explain it better |
| 03:16.58 | Gello | he appears to be on forums now, he's making a flurry of posts on the 1.9 thread |
| 03:17.57 | Legorol | well i haven't explained it too well, if he wants clarification i will make it |
| 03:18.01 | Legorol | too sleepy to explain stuff |
| 03:18.08 | Legorol | at least in a coherent forum post ;-) |
| 03:19.41 | Gello | PlayerPortrait:GetTexture() returns "Portrait1". wondered what that would be |
| 03:25.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kaelten (n=Kaelten@pcp0010773238pcs.mobilh01.al.comcast.net) |
| 03:26.14 | *** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 03:26.40 | Kaelten | hallo |
| 03:26.52 | Gello | heya |
| 03:27.03 | Cair | hey Kael :) |
| 03:27.25 | Esamynn | tap, tap, is this thing on <-- irc noob |
| 03:27.33 | Gello | ah i see your post legorol thanks :) |
| 03:27.53 | Gello | heya. i'm off to get stuff done before visiting family tommorow. see you guys |
| 03:27.59 | Cair | hi Esamynn |
| 03:28.04 | Cair | night Gello |
| 03:28.29 | Esamynn | hiya |
| 03:29.36 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57) |
| 03:29.52 | Guillotine | tain: you implemented my idea! yay! |
| 03:29.59 | Guillotine | just saw trackalert |
| 03:30.13 | Guillotine | so far i see 3 addons that were thought of during discussions here |
| 03:30.23 | Kaelten | thats cool |
| 03:30.42 | Cair | funny how that works, hey? |
| 03:30.50 | Guillotine | yup :) |
| 03:30.57 | Cair | you just missed Gello |
| 03:31.03 | Guillotine | whos that? |
| 03:31.08 | Cair | *bonk* |
| 03:31.18 | Esamynn | lol |
| 03:31.26 | Guillotine | *blushes* |
| 03:31.35 | Guillotine | so whos gello? |
| 03:31.37 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=2953 |
| 03:32.20 | Cair | That help? |
| 03:32.21 | Esamynn | owned :P |
| 03:32.28 | Legorol | what is TrackerAlert? |
| 03:32.33 | Guillotine | kind of. i still don't know who that is |
| 03:32.43 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4361 |
| 03:32.49 | Cair | Legorol |
| 03:32.57 | Legorol | thanks Cair |
| 03:33.00 | Cair | welcome |
| 03:33.06 | Legorol | Guillotine, let's start with you. Who are you? ;-) |
| 03:33.13 | Guillotine | an annoying guy |
| 03:33.24 | Guillotine | who likes calling cair a stealth bumper |
| 03:33.29 | Esamynn | that much is obvious ;) |
| 03:33.41 | Cair | Guillotine: he's a long time member of the *interface.com sites, and the author of some well known mods for both wow and eq |
| 03:33.55 | Guillotine | ahhhh. ok |
| 03:34.04 | Guillotine | i still don't know any of his mods. though i have heard of recap |
| 03:34.12 | Mondinga | whatd gello do for eq? |
| 03:34.15 | Cair | surprised |
| 03:34.26 | Mondinga | too long ago to remember |
| 03:34.49 | net | Hello mr Guillotine |
| 03:34.57 | Cair | http://www.eqinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=1773 |
| 03:35.00 | Cair | Mondinga |
| 03:35.08 | Guillotine | hello net. do i know you? |
| 03:35.09 | Legorol | ehm.. where can I find this Visor? doesn't show up on WoWI's search |
| 03:35.21 | Guillotine | it was a bad move by taim. its only up at wowace im pretty sure |
| 03:35.22 | Cair | www.wowace.com |
| 03:35.34 | Guillotine | he should have said that in his post... |
| 03:35.46 | Guillotine | since pretty much only authors know of visor right now |
| 03:37.04 | net | I only know you from our forums ( curse ) , since you have a french name i didn t miss it =) |
| 03:37.16 | Guillotine | ohhh. your net from curse? awesome! |
| 03:37.21 | Kaelten | hi net |
| 03:37.30 | Legorol | ok i must admit this is a blatant failure of my net skills, but having gone to wowace, and found the thread for Visor, all i see is some post about what the latest version will break and a link to the download |
| 03:37.34 | Legorol | not much explanation on what it is :( |
| 03:37.43 | Guillotine | its pretty much a development library |
| 03:37.47 | Guillotine | makes some functions easier |
| 03:37.58 | Kaelten | its a complicated way to customize your interface |
| 03:38.05 | Guillotine | ~visor |
| 03:38.06 | purl | hmm... visor is palm done right, http://www.handspring.com or cheaper and faster, and fully compatible, or supported by linux 2.3.40+ (STABLIZED!) visist http://usbvisor.sourceforge.net |
| 03:38.13 | Guillotine | dang. they changed it back. lol |
| 03:38.36 | Kaelten | with a little skill you can do a lot of things similar to flexbar or move anything. Its just more focused at the coding inclined. |
| 03:38.42 | Guillotine | right |
| 03:39.40 | Guillotine | so cair, has there been any final decision on wether spoofing item links is ok? i kind of want to release my addon, but not if its considered an exploit |
| 03:39.53 | Guillotine | then i just have to keep using it myself ;) |
| 03:40.24 | Cair | This was the response I got, verbatim: |
| 03:40.25 | Cair | Yeah, I figured making sure the name matched exactly wasn't worth the processing power on the server validation. The color still needs to be right, and the name still needs to start with the actual item name, and it needs to be an item that's been seen since server up, so that's fine. I can completely validate the name if it becomes necessary... :) |
| 03:40.37 | Cair | So, I'd say ... no, don't go there |
| 03:40.54 | Guillotine | ok |
| 03:41.14 | Cair | because if you do, they will just force the complete validation requirement |
| 03:41.15 | Guillotine | so basically, dont release it and make it necessary for slouken to change stuff |
| 03:41.26 | Cair | yup, exactly |
| 03:41.56 | Guillotine | hey, i could put up a ransom. ppl on my server have to give me gold or ill release the addon, causing them to require validation which will cause more server lag. muhahaha! |
| 03:42.06 | Esamynn | haha |
| 03:42.08 | Cair | >< |
| 03:42.29 | Guillotine | ';..;' |
| 03:42.41 | Guillotine | legorol: i forgot to mention. im evil too |
| 03:42.50 | Cair | Only ransoming allowed around here is mine on the ocassions when I kidnap Slouken |
| 03:42.56 | Esamynn | feelling a little poor there are we Guill? |
| 03:43.20 | Esamynn | noooo, don't steal our Slouken!!! ;) |
| 03:44.06 | Guillotine | i thought of making an addon thats pretty much a WoW version of purl. not sure if it would really be useful though |
| 03:44.25 | Guillotine | theres also the problem that it will let other people control what you say in chat which could be bad if something goes against the TOS |
| 03:44.42 | Guillotine | even though it would precede everything with ~~ to let them know its the bot talking |
| 03:45.27 | Cair | ummm, I could see that making the devs oh so happy ... |
| 03:45.34 | Esamynn | and purl is what exactly? |
| 03:45.42 | Cair | purl, purl? |
| 03:45.43 | purl | methinks purl is the same blootbot as apt, ibot, and jbot, or at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:45.50 | Cair | that's purl |
| 03:45.54 | Guillotine | purl, emulate me |
| 03:45.55 | purl | woohoo! spoofing links is fun! |
| 03:45.55 | Cair | ~botsnack |
| 03:45.55 | purl | thanks, Cair |
| 03:46.20 | Guillotine | purl, tell Esamynn about help |
| 03:47.03 | Guillotine | from what i can see, it wouldn't really be too hard to make. just a little text parsing |
| 03:47.04 | Cair | purl is our bot |
| 03:47.11 | Esamynn | ahh ok |
| 03:47.20 | Esamynn | <-- irc noob, as I said before ;) |
| 03:47.24 | Cair | no worries |
| 03:47.36 | Guillotine | ~noob |
| 03:47.49 | Cair | ~newb |
| 03:47.50 | purl | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 03:48.01 | Guillotine | purl, noob is just what someone is before their a pro |
| 03:48.04 | purl | ...but noob is already something else... |
| 03:48.04 | Esamynn | haha |
| 03:48.11 | Guillotine | ~noob |
| 03:48.20 | Cair | purl just hates you Guillotine |
| 03:48.26 | Guillotine | purl, no, noob is just what someone is before their a pro |
| 03:48.27 | purl | okay, Guillotine |
| 03:48.32 | Guillotine | ~noob |
| 03:48.33 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, noob is just what someone is before their a pro |
| 03:48.43 | Guillotine | purl, thank you |
| 03:48.43 | purl | pas de quoi, Guillotine |
| 03:48.48 | Guillotine | wtf. lol |
| 03:48.51 | Cair | ROFL |
| 03:48.58 | Esamynn | so much for not spamming the bot :P |
| 03:49.12 | Cair | btw, that should be "before they're", not "their" |
| 03:49.12 | Guillotine | ~factinfo thank you |
| 03:49.12 | purl | Guillotine: there's no such factoid as thank you |
| 03:49.13 | Guillotine | were not spamming it |
| 03:49.32 | Guillotine | my english isnt too good |
| 03:49.34 | Guillotine | sry |
| 03:49.35 | Cair | trust me Esamynn, this isn't spamming from these guys |
| 03:49.47 | Cair | if they really start in on it, you'll know ... |
| 03:49.52 | Guillotine | hehe |
| 03:49.54 | Guillotine | ya |
| 03:49.59 | Esamynn | oh I'm sure, I just couldn't come up with a milder word on the spot :P |
| 03:50.00 | Guillotine | we start asking purl for stocks and weather and stuff... |
| 03:50.11 | Cair | except, they know better, because when they do, I yell at them |
| 03:50.55 | *** topic/#WoWI-lounge by Cair -> WoWI-Lounge. Kick back, relax, hang out. More signal, less noise. Don't spam the damn bot. Get along or get out. |
| 03:51.18 | Esamynn | so, about that new WoW patch huh? ;) |
| 03:51.35 | Guillotine | nerf pallys |
| 03:51.38 | Esamynn | haha |
| 03:51.47 | Guillotine | in fact, nerf everyone but druids |
| 03:51.53 | Esamynn | amen |
| 03:53.02 | Esamynn | I got excited once I hit the bottom of the patch notes and saw the mount sounds are in :) |
| 03:53.24 | Guillotine | really? what mount sounds? |
| 03:53.51 | Tain | You mean like Debbie Does Dallas mount sounds? |
| 03:53.54 | Esamynn | from the patch Notes: All mount sounds, when standing still and pressing spacebar are now all in place. |
| 03:54.41 | Esamynn | this patch is like Christmas come early, there is sooo much in it |
| 03:56.29 | Osagasu | just wait until December/Early Janurary's Patch |
| 03:56.42 | Osagasu | PRIEST IMPROVEMENTS! |
| 03:56.50 | Esamynn | haha |
| 03:56.54 | pagefault | whats a PP |
| 03:56.58 | Esamynn | F Priests :P |
| 03:57.10 | Esamynn | j/k |
| 03:57.11 | Tain | Well pagefault, boys have a pp and girls don't. |
| 03:57.17 | pagefault | rofl |
| 03:59.12 | pagefault | apparently we are losing in AB to PP's |
| 03:59.31 | Esamynn | When I first saw the patch notes on the web I thought they were fake for sure, I never saw the Tranquil Air totem coming |
| 04:00.53 | Esamynn | anyone else see the class spell books yet? |
| 04:00.53 | pagefault | ah PP is a guild |
| 04:00.53 | pagefault | I hate them |
| 04:00.53 | pagefault | stupid all epic gear |
| 04:01.52 | Esamynn | http://wowredemption.com/datas/users/112-holy%20light.jpg and http://wowredemption.com/datas/users/112-battleshout.jpg I want to know what the Druid one is |
| 04:06.40 | Esamynn | *drops pin* |
| 04:06.51 | Esamynn | maybe I should go back to my HW :P |
| 04:07.40 | Cair | I'm not sure which is the druid one, Esamynn |
| 04:08.12 | Esamynn | from the pattern I'd guess a Healing Touch Rank 11, but maybe they will surprise me |
| 04:08.56 | Cair | *nod* |
| 04:11.15 | Esamynn | ahh well, could be worse, at least the Cenarion changes make it a decent Balance set now, but enough of me griping, what classes are your favorites? (no one be shy) |
| 04:11.52 | Cair | <== always a hunter/ranger in any of the games, with bard being preferred secondary |
| 04:13.22 | Osagasu | my favorite classes... heh, I don't really have one. I like my priest the most, but that's more the character, not the class. |
| 04:14.03 | Esamynn | I've been a Druid since my first day of WoW, I have one highly neglected alt |
| 04:15.01 | Osagasu | I've played 30 to every class, past 30 in 2, and past 40 in 1 |
| 04:15.24 | cladhaire | 60 priest, 60 rogue, 30 mage, 40 druid |
| 04:15.30 | cladhaire | and various level 10 alts :P |
| 04:15.47 | Parak | what the... that's a new crash error... Not enough storage is available to process this command. |
| 04:15.48 | Osagasu | I still can't believe they aren't giving vet rewards |
| 04:16.30 | Parak | File:C:\build\buildWoW\WoW\Source\Game\GameClient\WardenClient.cpp <---rofl |
| 04:16.50 | Osagasu | o.O |
| 04:17.59 | Esamynn | hehe |
| 04:18.31 | Esamynn | I was on Test for a little bit earlier and ran into some crash bug, didn't have time to track it down though |
| 04:19.12 | Osagasu | so Cair what's your next MMO gonna---aww talk about great timing |
| 04:19.27 | Cair|reading | what's my next MMO what? |
| 04:19.41 | Osagasu | gomma be |
| 04:19.45 | Osagasu | *gonna be |
| 04:19.45 | Cair|reading | *shrug* |
| 04:19.52 | Mondinga | only been a year~ |
| 04:20.00 | Esamynn | WoW is all! |
| 04:20.02 | Mondinga | mmo hopping is sadistic |
| 04:20.03 | Cair|reading | will be looking into V:SoH, obviously |
| 04:20.27 | Cair|reading | since we've got a UI site for it, as well |
| 04:20.49 | Cair|reading | but I don't know, really |
| 04:21.20 | Cair|reading | still waiting on the DDO beta, too |
| 04:22.16 | Osagasu | then she can be a Bard. |
| 04:22.18 | Osagasu | ;) |
| 04:22.51 | Cair|reading | It's always a toss up for me Ranger vs Bard |
| 04:22.54 | Osagasu | though no monks or Druids in Stormreach... |
| 04:23.02 | Osagasu | Cair, in DnD you can multiclass |
| 04:23.07 | Cair|reading | I know |
| 04:23.09 | Osagasu | you can be BOTH! =D |
| 04:23.09 | Cair|reading | :p |
| 04:23.13 | Cair|reading | I know :p |
| 04:23.37 | Cair|reading | Although I prefer the classic bard |
| 04:23.53 | Cair|reading | 15 lvl druid, 15 lvl rogue *then* start working up bard |
| 04:23.59 | Osagasu | my favorite no PrC build - Cleric (Travel/Trickery) + Bard + Ranger |
| 04:24.10 | Osagasu | no druids in DDO |
| 04:24.17 | Osagasu | ;_________: |
| 04:24.20 | Cair|reading | *nod* |
| 04:24.28 | Cair|reading | anyway, back to my book ;) |
| 04:24.29 | Osagasu | sucks |
| 04:24.56 | Cair|reading | yup |
| 04:27.10 | Esamynn | I'll catch you guys later, I need to get something useful achomplished |
| 04:27.36 | Cair|reading | ~unproductivity |
| 04:27.38 | purl | yay! |
| 04:27.43 | Cair|reading | later Esamynn |
| 04:28.49 | Cair|reading | okay, now, where do I know Esamynn's name from? |
| 04:29.36 | Osagasu | I dunno |
| 04:30.32 | Osagasu | finally bloody got around to registering for the beta |
| 04:30.53 | Cair|reading | which beta? |
| 04:31.00 | Osagasu | DDO |
| 04:31.03 | Cair|reading | ah |
| 04:55.41 | Stylpe | Does anyone know the best way to ensure the player has Attack active? |
| 05:09.21 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ToastTheif (i=ToastThe@24-177-151-62.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 05:18.36 | Kaelten | \t is the tab character right? |
| 05:19.36 | Osagasu | I dunno |
| 05:21.39 | Kaelten | hmm |
| 05:26.07 | Cair|reading | mmmh |
| 05:26.17 | Osagasu | uh oh. |
| 05:26.28 | *** join/#wowi-lounge zeeg (n=wguru@63.147.183.137) |
| 05:26.32 | zeeg | O.o |
| 05:26.34 | Osagasu | ^_^ |
| 05:26.34 | Cair|reading | yo zeeg |
| 05:26.41 | Osagasu | Guess who I dragged in? |
| 05:26.44 | zeeg | whats the bot do |
| 05:26.46 | zeeg | want my bot? |
| 05:26.51 | zeeg | ya cair told me about the chan |
| 05:26.53 | Osagasu | who said we have a bot? |
| 05:26.53 | zeeg | im just lazy |
| 05:27.03 | Osagasu | ~stab zeeg |
| 05:27.05 | purl | ACTION runs at zeeg with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 05:27.06 | zeeg | Cair|reading, i have an irc bot that looks up items/ranks/etc. |
| 05:27.37 | Osagasu | he does, its really nifty. |
| 05:28.04 | zeeg | does US realm status too |
| 05:28.11 | zeeg | (doesnt work on EU til they implement the XML feed, as im lazy) |
| 05:28.12 | Cair|reading | not really, unless a lot of the channel members ask for it |
| 05:28.15 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Legorol|alt (i=legorol@cpc3-cmbg6-6-0-cust238.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 05:28.15 | zeeg | k |
| 05:28.21 | Cair|reading | wb Legorol |
| 05:29.42 | Osagasu | we have people from all corners of the comminuty now. |
| 05:30.13 | Cair|reading | I told zeeg about the channel ages back, we weren't good enough for him |
| 05:30.22 | zeeg | lol |
| 05:30.26 | zeeg | i just didnt wanna add it to autojoin |
| 05:30.30 | zeeg | im in toooo many chans the way it is |
| 05:30.45 | Tain | It's hard living the life of a movie star! |
| 05:30.53 | zeeg | It is |
| 05:30.57 | zeeg | i would assume |
| 05:31.03 | Osagasu | you should see my channel list |
| 05:31.13 | Osagasu | I have two servers I've joined just for one channel |
| 05:31.21 | Tain | Now now, it's not the size of the channel list that matters. |
| 05:31.27 | Osagasu | sure it is. |
| 05:31.38 | Osagasu | its like a pissing contest for geeks. |
| 05:31.51 | Cair|reading | I'm only in 3 |
| 05:31.59 | Tain | Well, you piss over there and I'll stay here where we use bathrooms. |
| 05:32.08 | zeeg | well cosmos thinks they need their own irc network |
| 05:32.14 | zeeg | but norganna has his chan there too so im in two now |
| 05:32.17 | zeeg | im on 8 now |
| 05:32.19 | zeeg | cept im banned from one |
| 05:32.27 | zeeg | due to their "clone" thing kicking in when my pc locke dup and i reconnected |
| 05:32.51 | Cair|reading | That's okay, I've never particularly worried about dick measuring contests, since I don't actually have one |
| 05:33.34 | zeeg | lotsa more pics from 1.9 up btw |
| 05:33.45 | *** join/#wowi-lounge slouken (n=slouken@ip68-5-42-243.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 05:33.50 | zeeg | seriously? |
| 05:33.51 | zeeg | lol |
| 05:33.59 | zeeg | ill join just to harass slouken |
| 05:34.03 | Cair|reading | yo Slouken :) |
| 05:34.06 | zeeg | slouken, you should get me unbanned from the forums |
| 05:34.11 | slouken | ? |
| 05:34.13 | Guillotine | lol |
| 05:34.13 | zeeg | :( |
| 05:34.14 | Cair|reading | you harass Slouken, you get kicked and banned |
| 05:34.17 | Tain | Hey Slouk |
| 05:34.21 | slouken | hey Tain |
| 05:34.28 | Guillotine | sloukens my hero :D |
| 05:34.30 | slouken | zeeg, I have no forum power. |
| 05:34.33 | zeeg | patchers getting close to completion cair |
| 05:34.36 | Cair|reading | seriously, stfu and leave him alone, it's a known fact in this channel |
| 05:34.37 | slouken | I can't even change my avatar. :) |
| 05:34.41 | zeeg | slouken, give me the home address of whoever's in charge :D |
| 05:34.45 | Guillotine | lol |
| 05:34.47 | zeeg | ill go knock on their door |
| 05:35.10 | slouken | Hi Guillotine. :) |
| 05:35.15 | slouken | <business mode on> |
| 05:35.26 | End | but Tem can change your avatar! ;P |
| 05:35.30 | zeeg | The last blizz-staff I saw online |
| 05:35.33 | zeeg | Tried saying wowguru distributed trojans |
| 05:35.36 | zeeg | that didnt turn out to be a fun day for him |
| 05:35.38 | zeeg | :| |
| 05:35.47 | Cair | zeeg |
| 05:35.54 | slouken | Hey, anyone taken a look at how 1.9 does with addons? |
| 05:36.10 | Guillotine | nope. im afraid |
| 05:36.11 | Tain | Lots have been on and off all day, addons seem to have been doing pretty well |
| 05:36.14 | End | I still haven't gotten the patch to apply...keeps complaining about goldshire for me :X |
| 05:36.15 | zeeg | Ooo i'm curious, the secure/unsecure crap, I've read about the ability to ban addons and what not |
| 05:36.20 | zeeg | but couldn't you just change the addons name to bypass it? |
| 05:36.23 | Guillotine | thats not in 1.9 is it? |
| 05:36.36 | Tain | I haven't gone in yet, but I've heard a lot of reports of no errors logging in |
| 05:37.01 | Guillotine | me as well |
| 05:37.05 | Cair | Yeah, the little bit that's been discovered so far has already been reported on the forum for you |
| 05:37.30 | slouken|UIhat | Great, with the exception of scrollbars and GetScale(), most things should work. |
| 05:37.36 | Guillotine | only thing that I've heard with errors has to do with known things (namely the changing of the 8th param of GetItemInfo) |
| 05:37.47 | zeeg | hey slouken|UIhat |
| 05:37.50 | zeeg | can you fix getLocale() ? |
| 05:37.53 | zeeg | it doesnt work for enGB |
| 05:38.09 | zeeg | it made us add extra code just to validate the EU client :( |
| 05:38.14 | Tain | Was that an illegal macro? |
| 05:38.25 | End | slouken = thistle tea? |
| 05:38.29 | Guillotine | slouken must be a combat rogue... no other rogues could do backstab backstab and evisc without waiting |
| 05:38.38 | End | or that |
| 05:38.47 | End | I don't know rogue skills -all- that well |
| 05:38.57 | Cair | buncha nuts, the lot of ya! |
| 05:39.04 | Tain | Sometimes you feel like a nut. |
| 05:39.07 | Osagasu | thank you Cair. |
| 05:39.09 | Guillotine | and proud of it too :D |
| 05:39.29 | slouken|UIhat | zeeg, it returns the in-game locale. enGB is the same as enUS, with slight UI differences. The actual locale is the same. |
| 05:39.40 | zeeg | meh :( |
| 05:39.42 | slouken|UIhat | I think there's something set that allows you to differentiate between the two, but I'm not sure. |
| 05:39.50 | zeeg | you can check login server |
| 05:39.52 | zeeg | which is what we did |
| 05:40.08 | Guillotine | so slouken, i had an idea. I'm going to hold by server at ransom. Unless I get a certain amount of gold, i'm going to release my addon that lets ppl spoof item links. then, youll have to put in the full checking which will increase server lag. muhahaha! |
| 05:40.09 | slouken|UIhat | Request it on the 1.9 thread, and I'll look into it. |
| 05:40.13 | Guillotine | my* |
| 05:40.13 | zeeg | im banned.. |
| 05:40.14 | zeeg | lol |
| 05:40.19 | zeeg | someone request it for me |
| 05:40.23 | zeeg | im not buying another account |
| 05:40.28 | Guillotine | lol zeeg. what did you do? |
| 05:40.36 | zeeg | supposable, i linked unreleased content |
| 05:40.42 | Guillotine | tsk tsk |
| 05:40.48 | zeeg | (technically, it wasnt unreleased, a gm had it on test so it had been "seen") |
| 05:40.51 | slouken|UIhat | Guillotine, go ahead. We'll put in the checking and when people complain about server lag, I'll give them your account name. ;-) |
| 05:41.05 | Osagasu | you won't need to. |
| 05:41.09 | Osagasu | just give me his address. |
| 05:41.12 | slouken|UIhat | zeeg, that was dumb. :) |
| 05:41.13 | Guillotine | :0 |
| 05:41.17 | zeeg | it wasnt unreleased!!! :P |
| 05:41.21 | Guillotine | slouken could kill me himself. im sure i live within 5 minutes |
| 05:41.26 | Cair | *supposedly* |
| 05:41.32 | Osagasu | what, the dragon? |
| 05:41.45 | Cair | give me a break zeeg, you post unreleased shit all the time, we all know it :p |
| 05:41.46 | slouken|UIhat | gm's aren't supposed to show content, but if they do, on a test server, keep it to yourself. :) |
| 05:41.51 | Guillotine | i posted unreleased content on WoWI. i revealed to everyone (along with screenshots) that the new alliance race was the O RLY bird! |
| 05:41.52 | zeeg | Cair, only like twice though |
| 05:41.56 | zeeg | and i got banned like 8 times |
| 05:42.14 | slouken|UIhat | Guillotine, you're slightly off... |
| 05:42.17 | zeeg | slouken|UIhat, foror's fabled steed :P |
| 05:42.21 | slouken|UIhat | It's really the YA RLY bird. ;-) |
| 05:42.26 | Guillotine | ahhh |
| 05:42.29 | End-crazyhat | ahhhhh |
| 05:42.33 | End-crazyhat | it all makes sense now |
| 05:42.34 | Tain | So Slouken, what do you think of my Tracking Auto Alert AddOn. :) |
| 05:42.45 | Cair | I haven't shown it to him yet Tain |
| 05:42.51 | Tain | :X |
| 05:42.51 | Guillotine | lol. we thought of it in a discussion here. its a neat idea, isnt it? |
| 05:42.57 | slouken|UIhat | Okay, with any other 1.9 issues, hit the forums. |
| 05:43.20 | Cair | now, leave him be guys, at least on "official" stuff |
| 05:43.21 | End | dammit |
| 05:43.28 | End | I know I shouldn't have taken off my hat |
| 05:43.31 | Tain | Hah! Too late. |
| 05:43.33 | zeeg | i was already naked |
| 05:43.34 | zeeg | no problems there |
| 05:43.37 | End | or my pants |
| 05:43.44 | zeeg | i like my bear suit |
| 05:43.51 | Guillotine | haha! tricked you cair! im not wearing any pants! |
| 05:44.00 | Osagasu | He's wearing a skirt. |
| 05:44.01 | slouken | Ohhh things I didn't need to imagine... |
| 05:44.13 | Osagasu | you came in here, Slouken |
| 05:44.16 | Osagasu | oh, btw... |
| 05:44.17 | zeeg | anyways cair |
| 05:44.23 | Osagasu | ~slouken |
| 05:44.24 | purl | i guess slouken is an amazing WoW dev, or a close friend of God. |
| 05:44.24 | Tain | I'm wearing Furblog pajamas |
| 05:44.24 | net | is this a cyber sex channel ? =) |
| 05:44.35 | Osagasu | XD |
| 05:44.38 | Guillotine | lol. <3 purl |
| 05:44.38 | Osagasu | noone changed it? |
| 05:44.40 | Cair | it is by times, net ;) |
| 05:44.42 | zeeg | hrm |
| 05:45.49 | Tain | Turkey |
| 05:45.58 | Guillotine | Happy Thanksgiving! |
| 05:46.14 | Tain | ~today |
| 05:46.16 | purl | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent) |
| 05:46.16 | Cair | Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving to the Americans in channel :p |
| 05:46.27 | Guillotine | blizz should have done a thanksgiving event. They put turkey critters everywhere that you can kill and they drop food. |
| 05:46.42 | Tain | I always celebrate the beginning of our enslavement of the rest of the free world. |
| 05:46.51 | Guillotine | or a contest to see who can kill the most turkeys in an hour or something |
| 05:46.53 | Osagasu | Blizz should have VET REWARDS! |
| 05:46.54 | Kaelten | is it DoScript() that executes some lua? |
| 05:46.56 | Osagasu | ;_________; |
| 05:47.05 | slouken | Anyone seen Iriel? |
| 05:47.20 | Tain | Iriel has been around all night. I think. |
| 05:47.22 | Cair | He was on earlier |
| 05:47.24 | Osagasu | ~seen iriel |
| 05:47.28 | purl | iriel <n=daniel@adsl-66-123-190-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 3h 26m 36s ago, saying: 'Well, time to head off to get dinner.. See you all later (Happy thanksgiving for tomorrow in case I dont make it back on tonight)'. |
| 05:47.28 | End | a few hours ago |
| 05:47.39 | Guillotine | yay purl! |
| 05:47.43 | cladhaire | ~seen cladhaire |
| 05:47.44 | purl | cladhaire is currently on #wowi-lounge (6d 5h 37m 19s) ##ace (6d 5h 37m 19s). Has said a total of 397 messages. Is idling for 1s |
| 05:47.44 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.52 | Kaelten | lol, thats convienent. |
| 05:48.02 | Guillotine | sicko |
| 05:48.09 | End | see, I learn to live without purl! |
| 05:48.18 | slouken | I was hoping to see his official "what changed" list. :) |
| 05:48.28 | net | Slouken one question, i may have to re write it since it won t be very english :o , how is the progress with the addons check that blizzard is going to valid if they are good or bad ? :x |
| 05:48.30 | slouken | It's always entertaining. |
| 05:48.33 | Tain | ~seen My youthful enthusiasm |
| 05:48.35 | purl | i haven't seen 'my youthful enthusiasm', Tain |
| 05:48.50 | Guillotine | they havn't released that info net |
| 05:48.54 | Guillotine | and i don't think slouken can even here |
| 05:49.14 | net | okai |
| 05:49.23 | Guillotine | but i hear it has something to do with the O RLY bird... |
| 05:49.27 | Tain | It's ok net, through secret means I found out that you can get past any such checking with encryption. They are vulnerable to ROT13. |
| 05:49.31 | Cair | aye, no asking the dev to give away seekrets! |
| 05:49.44 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/newsfeed.php |
| 05:49.45 | zeeg | simple enough? |
| 05:49.55 | slouken | dammit, they found out our algorithm! |
| 05:50.05 | zeeg | thats what shows in the app btw Cair |
| 05:50.07 | slouken | rot13 looked so good too... so efficient! |
| 05:50.08 | Cair | ~whaleslap zeeg |
| 05:50.10 | purl | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap zeeg over the head with it..... |
| 05:50.13 | zeeg | so resize it to like 600px; |
| 05:50.40 | Tain | slouken: You could just ROT13 it twice, make it twice as secure. |
| 05:50.58 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.09 | End | ROT13 it 4 times for maximum security! |
| 05:51.11 | Legorol|alt | helo |
| 05:51.14 | Osagasu | ~literal whaleslap |
| 05:51.15 | purl | "whaleslap" is "your mom" |
| 05:51.16 | slouken | lol |
| 05:51.21 | Legorol|alt | slouken, is that *the* slouken? |
| 05:51.24 | Osagasu | yes |
| 05:51.25 | Cair | hey Legorol|alt :) |
| 05:51.27 | Legorol|alt | wow! |
| 05:51.28 | End | no, it's the other one |
| 05:51.31 | Legorol|alt | it's my pleasure! |
| 05:51.32 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57) |
| 05:51.34 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Legorol (i=legorol@cpc3-cmbg6-6-0-cust238.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 05:51.35 | End | we had slouken cloned |
| 05:51.36 | Cair | NO bugging the dev! |
| 05:51.42 | Legorol | won't do, promise |
| 05:51.46 | Tain | No cloning the dev, either. |
| 05:51.58 | End | but we already cloned the dev! |
| 05:52.03 | Tain | He's multiplying! |
| 05:52.05 | End | lol |
| 05:52.16 | Tain | Asexual multiplication seen in the wild! |
| 05:52.18 | slouken|slouken | No cloning the devs! |
| 05:52.19 | Tain | Crimey! |
| 05:52.20 | Legorol | slouken, the cloning rule applies to you too, doesn't it? ;-) you are not supposed to self-replicate! |
| 05:52.29 | End | oh noes, there are so many of them! |
| 05:52.34 | slouken|slouken | Oh right... |
| 05:52.35 | Legorol | more slouken, more bugfixes |
| 05:52.36 | Cair | naw, he can self replicate |
| 05:52.45 | Cair | means I can steal one all for myself ;) |
| 05:52.50 | Legorol | that's handy |
| 05:52.53 | Guillotine | look at all the pirates! |
| 05:52.57 | Tain | Your loyal sloukenites are ready to serve! |
| 05:53.13 | Legorol | now this is a big dilemma i have.. |
| 05:53.19 | End | sloukenitis would be a funny name for a disease |
| 05:53.22 | Legorol | hang around and chat with slouken, or play WSG that just came up |
| 05:53.22 | Guillotine | lol end |
| 05:53.29 | Guillotine | both! |
| 05:53.38 | net | play wsg |
| 05:53.41 | End | I'm not sure what exactly it would entail though |
| 05:53.51 | Legorol | all hail the test servers! |
| 05:54.04 | net | how can you call this a test server |
| 05:54.05 | Cair | ~hail Test Server |
| 05:54.06 | purl | ACTION bows down to Test Server and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 05:54.06 | Guillotine | earlier today i alt-tabbed out of WSG to read a thread on discordmods.com while holding the flag. my group wasn't too happy |
| 05:54.19 | Osagasu | lmao |
| 05:54.21 | cladhaire | lol cair |
| 05:54.27 | net | Ahn'Qiraj is closed |
| 05:54.32 | net | in our euro test server |
| 05:54.37 | net | gg blizzard |
| 05:54.45 | Guillotine | i heard the euro test servers got free level 60s though |
| 05:54.49 | Osagasu | it's not open at server up |
| 05:54.52 | Guillotine | or was that the chinese ones? |
| 05:54.53 | Tain | They have to wash and buff the floors. |
| 05:54.55 | Osagasu | Its only accelerated open! |
| 05:54.57 | Tain | It's not ready yet. |
| 05:54.58 | net | with gimped gear |
| 05:55.03 | Guillotine | still |
| 05:55.07 | net | still gimped |
| 05:55.19 | Legorol | btw lots of nice changes for UI in patch 1.9, thanks slouken! |
| 05:55.25 | Cair | bitch bitch bitch, geez guys :p |
| 05:55.27 | Tain | Wait, are you complaining about things not ready yet in a test environment? |
| 05:55.28 | Osagasu | Slouken, we need free level 60s! |
| 05:55.31 | Legorol | (yes i am dead and waiting for res) |
| 05:55.31 | Osagasu | :P |
| 05:55.40 | Legorol | Osagasu: we get that in EU on test :p |
| 05:55.49 | Osagasu | and gimped gear though |
| 05:55.52 | cladhaire | slouken: All of my mods appear to be working.. I just need to back the ##SavedVariablesPerCharacter out, and go back to a ##SavedVariables for WatchDog. |
| 05:55.52 | net | euro is considered as trash =) |
| 05:55.56 | Osagasu | I want the Blizzcon 60s! |
| 05:56.03 | Legorol | net: i much prefer to have AQ closed than open |
| 05:56.08 | Legorol | at least this way we have fun opening it |
| 05:56.12 | Legorol | the US missed out on it ;-) |
| 05:56.24 | net | the point is, none is going ot open it |
| 05:56.25 | Osagasu | legorol, it was closed at server up |
| 05:56.32 | net | to* |
| 05:56.32 | Osagasu | we just opened it REAL quickly |
| 05:56.33 | Legorol | net: why not? |
| 05:56.38 | End | they "accelerated" the opening process |
| 05:56.43 | Legorol | there are people going around trying to open it |
| 05:56.48 | net | It take 2-3 weeks to open it on a hight pop server |
| 05:56.56 | Osagasu | ~kill net |
| 05:56.57 | purl | ACTION shoots a inverse electron gun at net |
| 05:56.57 | Legorol | the process is accelerated |
| 05:57.02 | Legorol | at least on test |
| 05:57.23 | Tain | I changed all of my mods to RegisterForSave() is that ok? |
| 05:57.26 | net | If you read the post in the test forums, it should be open :) |
| 05:57.32 | cladhaire | *gasp* |
| 05:57.41 | Guillotine | lol tain |
| 05:57.47 | Guillotine | you have to ask that when Iriel is here |
| 05:57.49 | Kaelten | afk guys. |
| 05:57.53 | Kaelten | see you later. |
| 05:57.56 | Cair | later Kael :) |
| 05:57.59 | Tain | See ya Kael |
| 05:58.33 | net | anyway i m a bit pissed today, the blizzard guy who make the itemisation is full of crap and should be fired |
| 05:58.43 | net | :~~ |
| 05:58.46 | Guillotine | :( why do you say that? |
| 05:58.54 | Tain | Because the first day of the test server isn't... up to your standards? |
| 05:59.15 | net | I m full tier 2 priest, i have been raiding nearly everynight since 9 month |
| 05:59.18 | Guillotine | i actually like most of the new item designs. i jsut don't like how the druid helmet makes you look like a moose |
| 05:59.23 | net | and still my gear is useless |
| 05:59.44 | Tain | There is a train of thought, and I know this is a crazy idea but hear me out, that a test server is for testing these things to see what works and what doesn't. |
| 05:59.57 | net | i m not complaining about test come on =) |
| 05:59.59 | Guillotine | tain: no, hes talking about itemization in general |
| 06:00.06 | Tain | Oh well piss off then. |
| 06:00.16 | cladhaire | Haha |
| 06:00.21 | net | heh |
| 06:00.52 | net | Decursive is broken ? |
| 06:00.53 | Tain | If you're not a meleer you're not getting as much use out of any gear. |
| 06:02.27 | Guillotine | hey slouken, just wondering, have you ever REALLY had anyone try to stalk you from the WoW boards? |
| 06:02.39 | Guillotine | i know cair had some problems after blizzcon... |
| 06:02.52 | Tain | Cair had some problems trying to stalk slouken? |
| 06:02.58 | Guillotine | lol |
| 06:03.15 | Cair | what? huh? |
| 06:03.21 | End | well, slouken is unstalkable |
| 06:03.22 | Guillotine | i just mean the wierd messages |
| 06:03.26 | End | so no duh she had problems |
| 06:03.30 | cladhaire | purl, stalking? |
| 06:03.39 | Cair | ~sex |
| 06:03.41 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 06:03.43 | End | ~waffles |
| 06:03.45 | purl | make waffles && make syrup && fork(waffles) |
| 06:04.11 | End | wait a sec |
| 06:04.17 | End | there is an sf project called sex? |
| 06:04.27 | Guillotine | lol. guess so |
| 06:04.53 | Guillotine | is slouken gone? i cant see into his window. too much of a glare |
| 06:04.58 | Guillotine | lol |
| 06:05.14 | cladhaire | its tinted :P |
| 06:05.25 | Guillotine | we need to make a UI modding guild called <Legion of Slouken> |
| 06:05.25 | Tain | ~8ball Is slouken gone? |
| 06:05.26 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 06:05.33 | Tain | purl is wise |
| 06:05.35 | cladhaire | *gasp* |
| 06:05.54 | cladhaire | Guillotine: Mondinga and I wanted to do that.. but it didn't seem to have any support. |
| 06:06.05 | Guillotine | ill support it! |
| 06:06.06 | slouken | (catching up) Legorol, you're welcome! ... cladhaire, glad to hear it ... Guilllotine, no, I'm not as cute as Cair ... |
| 06:06.07 | cladhaire | Guillotine: At least then the /played time on my new druid wouldn't be inflated |
| 06:06.39 | Legorol | slouken, if it's not a secret: are you off duty now and home, playing WoW like the rest of us? |
| 06:06.45 | slouken | yep. :) |
| 06:06.54 | Legorol | what's your favourite class |
| 06:06.55 | slouken | actually too tired to play wow, but I can't go to bed yet |
| 06:07.06 | Guillotine | pirate |
| 06:07.08 | Legorol | i know the feeling.. happens way too often |
| 06:07.12 | slouken | :) |
| 06:07.14 | Tain | Oooh you should try out my new addon then, slouken. ;) |
| 06:07.17 | Legorol | but test servers are open, yay! |
| 06:07.19 | slouken | I actually really enjoy every class I've played. |
| 06:07.21 | Legorol | had to check all the new stuff |
| 06:07.37 | cladhaire | I got stuck helping my old guild through Molten Core tonight, when I really just wanted to level my drood some more. |
| 06:07.45 | End | drooood |
| 06:07.46 | cladhaire | Lost a good 5 hours of coding/leveling. |
| 06:07.51 | Legorol | i think the only one i didn't enjoy was warrior, until i got to about lvl 30-40 where some of the nicer abilities appeared |
| 06:07.59 | Guillotine | i just don't like paladins |
| 06:08.01 | Legorol | haven't played a rogue yet |
| 06:08.06 | Legorol | or not very long at least |
| 06:08.10 | Guillotine | on the plus side though, its really easy to play pallys and alt-tab midbattle to talk on irc |
| 06:08.17 | Guillotine | rogues are sooo fun |
| 06:08.17 | rallion | I like everything but locks |
| 06:08.19 | End | haha |
| 06:08.26 | Legorol | Guillotine, if some of my pali friends heard that, they'd be outraged |
| 06:08.29 | cladhaire | I love my rogue.. and my priest.. and my druid is the perfect comprimise |
| 06:08.35 | Guillotine | its so true though. at least at lower levels |
| 06:08.37 | slouken | I started playing a Warrior and kept trying to stealth, and then I tried playing a Druid and kept trying to charge (lol) |
| 06:08.42 | Legorol | i have a friend playing pali main who complains that it's a misconception that palis are click and forget |
| 06:08.48 | rallion | lol I've left to get snacks while fighting with pallies |
| 06:08.52 | Guillotine | they are below level 15 |
| 06:08.55 | Guillotine | im not sure about after that though |
| 06:08.56 | End | slouken: you can get feral charge at least :X |
| 06:09.01 | Tain | It's not even a matter of click and forget. |
| 06:09.03 | End | although |
| 06:09.05 | rallion | up to about 40, actually |
| 06:09.09 | End | it's more like intercept |
| 06:09.16 | cladhaire | So i'm buyin the $379.00 laptop from best buy on friday morning, I wonder how insanely slow WoW will be =( |
| 06:09.24 | End | and you gotta spec for it |
| 06:09.25 | Tain | It's just a matter of never being at risk from anything you can fight as a Paladin. |
| 06:09.27 | End | but still! |
| 06:09.38 | Guillotine | <3 being feral |
| 06:09.43 | Legorol | ehm.. semi-business question to slouken (slap me if this is out of bounds): do anything that people post on the EU UI forums ever get filtered through to you? |
| 06:09.44 | End | feral is awesome now |
| 06:09.45 | cladhaire | ./agree |
| 06:10.13 | slouken | Legorol, not unless reposted on the US forums. I don't even catch all the US forum posts... I have to work too. :) |
| 06:10.24 | Legorol | i understand, thanks |
| 06:10.26 | rallion | my 60 pally couldn't solo SM monestery for a while...he probably can now, but before he couldn't handle two Scarlet Abbots at the same time, they outhealed his DPS |
| 06:10.30 | Legorol | so you don't mind if we cross-post it? |
| 06:10.36 | slouken | Not at all |
| 06:10.43 | Tain | Stun stun stun |
| 06:10.49 | Legorol | i was hoping the EU CMs forward the issues raised on the EU UI forums, but probably not :( |
| 06:10.50 | slouken | Especially if you cross-post replies. |
| 06:10.55 | Legorol | anyway thanks for answering |
| 06:10.57 | slouken | np |
| 06:11.22 | End | I've had instances with my druid where there were battles I just couldn't win. I couldn't lose either. |
| 06:11.25 | Tain | I don't know you were into that cross-posting, that's kind of kinky |
| 06:11.26 | Legorol | how does that saying go? if you are slapped, stroke back or something |
| 06:11.32 | Guillotine | lol. i know what thats like end |
| 06:11.33 | End | that was when I was resto though |
| 06:11.44 | Guillotine | i hate duels against pallies |
| 06:11.49 | End | that's part of why I stopped being resto...healing wasn't my problem |
| 06:11.53 | Guillotine | yup |
| 06:11.57 | Guillotine | feral is so much more fun |
| 06:11.58 | Legorol | darn, too much chatting, i have AFKd out of WSG :( |
| 06:12.00 | Guillotine | especially in pvp |
| 06:12.18 | End | I had a 30 minute duel against another druid back in my resto days too |
| 06:12.19 | Guillotine | so does reload ui still stop you from going auto-afk? |
| 06:12.21 | End | that was annoying |
| 06:13.10 | End | heart of the wild though, is freakin awesome...best feral talent imo |
| 06:13.18 | cladhaire | Its amazing |
| 06:13.21 | cladhaire | I can't wait to get to it |
| 06:13.32 | Guillotine | slouken, do you ever just want to post on the forums for ppl to just "RTFM"? |
| 06:13.45 | slouken | nope, I let you guys do it. :) |
| 06:13.47 | Guillotine | b/c i'm trying hard to restrain myself right now... |
| 06:13.49 | cladhaire | haha i was just gonna say that =) |
| 06:14.31 | Tain | I can't deal with the forums most of the time. |
| 06:14.49 | cladhaire | Tain: I try to be helpful in the morning.. but sometimes Its so damn difficult. |
| 06:15.01 | Tain | My natural tendancies to show people how absurd their questions are. |
| 06:15.07 | cladhaire | Some days I just lose faith =) |
| 06:15.20 | Guillotine | well, i g2g guys. happy thanksgiving :) |
| 06:15.22 | Tain | As a wise man once said, "There are no stupid questions. There are only stupid people who ask questions." |
| 06:15.23 | slouken | never lose faith, just take breaks. :) |
| 06:15.23 | Legorol | slouken, since you are around, I can ask all the crucial questions i ever needed to know: your favourite blend of tea? |
| 06:15.29 | slouken | thistle |
| 06:15.35 | Guillotine | lol. i was about to say that |
| 06:15.36 | Legorol | seriously? |
| 06:15.37 | Legorol | yuck |
| 06:15.40 | slouken | lol |
| 06:15.45 | cladhaire | Love it. |
| 06:15.47 | Legorol | i tried it before, it hurts |
| 06:15.53 | Guillotine | theres such thing? |
| 06:15.58 | Legorol | you didn't know? |
| 06:16.04 | Cair | night Guillotine :) |
| 06:16.12 | net | ahh this thread made my week |
| 06:16.13 | net | Casual players deserve Nexus Crystals |
| 06:16.17 | Tain | Tea. Ear Grey. Hot. |
| 06:16.18 | net | With the leaked patch notes suggesting that disenchanted epics will yield Nexus Crystals for powerful enchants, Blizzard is giving all casual players ANOTHER slap in the face. |
| 06:16.19 | net | I'm a casual player and proud of it. I work 74 hours a week, I have a wife and 14 children, I have 3 mistresses and on most weeknights I volunteer at the local orphanage for the children of crack-addicted war widows. I spend most of my weekends coaching a hockey team filled with a rag-tag bunch of kids with almost all possible sterotypes of children accounted for. |
| 06:16.22 | net | How am I supposed to get these Nexus Crystals if I cannot spend 18 hours a day in MC like all hardcore guilds do? I spend my $13.50 a month just like everyone else (I have a 10% discount since I served in WW2, the Korean, Vietnam and both Gulf Wars) and therefore am entitled to the same enchants as everyone else. |
| 06:16.30 | cladhaire | hello paste-friend |
| 06:16.32 | Guillotine | wtf |
| 06:16.35 | cladhaire | Next time just give us the link =) |
| 06:16.37 | Tain | Ah, a bit too much spam. |
| 06:16.56 | Guillotine | i love the part about the 14 children and 3 mistresses... |
| 06:17.17 | Tain | It's important. |
| 06:17.25 | cladhaire | *cheer*.. When did they add the "Disable Error Speech" button? I feel like I compoletely missed that. |
| 06:17.25 | Tain | You should never cheat on your mistress. |
| 06:17.28 | Legorol | there is an element of truth in it though.. |
| 06:17.29 | Tain | Except with your wife. |
| 06:17.55 | Legorol | do you think that people who are willing to dedicate 20 hours on a particular goal, but can only spend 1 hour a day working towards it, shouldn't be rewarded? |
| 06:18.10 | Legorol | what's everyone's opinion? |
| 06:18.14 | Guillotine | maybe |
| 06:18.26 | End | my professional opinion is...waffles |
| 06:18.28 | Legorol | i beleive there should be some way for people who are currently classed "casual" simply because of the amount of time they play |
| 06:18.29 | cladhaire | The new interface options UI is sexy |
| 06:18.35 | End | good thing I'm not a professional |
| 06:18.38 | Tain | If you can't meet the requirements for a specific goal then you can't have it. |
| 06:18.49 | Guillotine | nerf shamans |
| 06:18.54 | Guillotine | :) |
| 06:18.58 | Legorol | so it seems that some of the goals are that you are able to spend X hours nonstop playing WoW |
| 06:19.04 | Guillotine | yes |
| 06:19.05 | Legorol | why is that this can't be broken up into bits? |
| 06:19.15 | Legorol | heck i would even be willing to spend 2X hours broken to pieces |
| 06:19.17 | Guillotine | i think it should be able to be broken into bits |
| 06:19.23 | Guillotine | and it pretty much is |
| 06:19.30 | End | no, that's a prereq to some goals. |
| 06:19.38 | Tain | There are smaller goals. If you want the bigger ones you have to invest that time with 39 other people. |
| 06:19.42 | Legorol | i guess what i am trying to say is, currently players are classed as hardcore or casual, based on time they play |
| 06:19.47 | Guillotine | right |
| 06:19.48 | Legorol | but i would put players in 3 classes |
| 06:20.00 | Legorol | 1 hardcore that can and do play a lot, in a single sitting too, and takes game seriously |
| 06:20.16 | Legorol | 2 casual who doesn't care, or just wants fun, or doesn't want to work hard on it etc. |
| 06:20.27 | Guillotine | and 3 thats 12 year old kids that try to tank on a priest |
| 06:20.39 | Guillotine | i actually had a priest try to tank today :/ |
| 06:20.51 | Guillotine | he had "all stamina gear. im built to tank" |
| 06:20.52 | Legorol | 3 wannabe hardcore who does want to take it seriously, cranks the numbers, willing to put in lot of time over time for a single goal, but doesn't have the ability to spend consecutively a large amount of time |
| 06:21.05 | Legorol | Guillotine, that's category 12 ;-) |
| 06:21.35 | Tain | That's more or less what the battlegrounds are for, Legorol . The cat 3 peopl. |
| 06:21.44 | Legorol | not true i'm afraid |
| 06:21.49 | Legorol | with the huge queues on the BGs |
| 06:22.00 | Legorol | BGs are definitely not friendly to those who have a short time to log in for |
| 06:22.08 | Guillotine | they are at level 10-19 :D |
| 06:22.11 | Legorol | because the queueing time is totally unreliable |
| 06:22.12 | Guillotine | which is why i have so many alts |
| 06:22.13 | End | on my realm I can get into a game in about 10 minutes |
| 06:22.18 | End | of AB |
| 06:22.21 | Guillotine | seriously? |
| 06:22.25 | End | yeah |
| 06:22.28 | Tain | If you don't have time to spent then you can't expedct to get to certain things. |
| 06:22.31 | Guillotine | its around an hour and a half on my realm |
| 06:22.32 | End | and that's like worst case |
| 06:22.32 | Legorol | ok, if they said: you have to wait 3 hours exactly then you can play it, i would be fine |
| 06:22.36 | Tain | It's not a punishment, it's a game mechanic. |
| 06:22.38 | End | I'm horde though |
| 06:22.45 | Legorol | the problem is that it could be 5 miinutes, could be 3 hours |
| 06:22.45 | Guillotine | o |
| 06:22.45 | End | less of us |
| 06:23.13 | Legorol | anyways, that's just my opinion, don't know what you all think |
| 06:23.17 | Tain | Well with 1.9 supposedly you'll get to join mltiple queus and get in whichever is first. |
| 06:23.25 | End | that's a good thing |
| 06:23.29 | Guillotine | so... everyone have fun engorging on deheaded fouls tommorrow :D |
| 06:23.29 | Legorol | i beleive that even the "big" instances should be doable somehow broken into bits |
| 06:23.32 | End | well |
| 06:23.33 | End | mostly |
| 06:23.45 | Tain | I don't believe the biggest instances should be doable broken down. |
| 06:23.46 | Legorol | Tain: all that means is you can be queued to all 3 BGs simultaneously |
| 06:23.53 | Tain | There's a reason to have a 40 man raid. |
| 06:23.55 | End | you'll get people leaving AB or whatever to play AV when it finally opens. |
| 06:23.58 | Legorol | bye Guillotine |
| 06:23.58 | End | which might suck |
| 06:24.02 | Legorol | Tain, let me propose a scenario: |
| 06:24.09 | End | cya Guillotine |
| 06:24.14 | Legorol | 40 people in a similar situation agree that they will spend 1 hour each day on a particular instance |
| 06:24.17 | Cair | night Guillotine :) |
| 06:24.22 | Legorol | when they finish for the day, they log out of the instance |
| 06:24.27 | Legorol | they log back in at the same place next day |
| 06:24.40 | Legorol | would this be detrimental to game balance or effect hardcore guilds in any way? i don't really think so |
| 06:24.50 | Legorol | if those 40 people are willing to organise the timing, |
| 06:24.59 | Legorol | and are willing to be "stuck" in the instance for say 2 weeks, |
| 06:25.02 | Legorol | why not let them do it? |
| 06:25.17 | Tain | Fine with me. |
| 06:25.45 | cladhaire | slouken: The UnitDebuff/Buff changes are amazing.. I can't thank you enough =) |
| 06:25.52 | Legorol | what are those changes? |
| 06:25.59 | cladhaire | debuff = UnitBuff(unit, i, SHOW_CASTABLE_BUFFS); |
| 06:26.17 | Tain | slouken: the flowers and chocolates you sent were beautiful, I can't think you enough. |
| 06:26.19 | cladhaire | third argument can be SHOW_CASTABLE_BUFFS, SHOW_DISPELLABLE_BUFFS |
| 06:26.46 | cladhaire | Tain: you are a genuine PITA.. I <3 it tho.. don't stop |
| 06:27.09 | cladhaire | that's actually SHOW_DISPELLABLE_DEBUFFS, but you get the idea |
| 06:27.18 | cladhaire | Gets rid of all the custom parsing thats been going on. |
| 06:27.42 | Tain | I am a Person Into TnA |
| 06:27.43 | ToastTheif | -k +l |
| 06:27.43 | Legorol | but don't you still need to iterate them to see if a particular one is on or not? |
| 06:28.12 | Legorol | i can see hwo this is a bit better than before, but you still have to iterate, just not over the whole set, but only half of the buffs |
| 06:28.15 | cladhaire | Legorol: no.. it returns the first index that matches the category |
| 06:28.18 | Legorol | correct me if i am wrong |
| 06:28.36 | Legorol | so what is the 2nd argument? |
| 06:28.38 | Legorol | the "i"? |
| 06:28.45 | cladhaire | err.. you're correct |
| 06:28.48 | cladhaire | You iterate the entire list |
| 06:28.53 | cladhaire | up to MAX_PARTY_DEBUFFS |
| 06:29.10 | Legorol | so will you get nil returned for some "i"? |
| 06:29.16 | Legorol | or how does it work? |
| 06:29.18 | cladhaire | but you can avoid filtering now, and just include options to filter buffs out to only those you can cast, or to only show those debuffs you can dispel |
| 06:29.35 | Legorol | ehm... ok i still don't quite get it |
| 06:29.38 | Legorol | let's say you do this: |
| 06:29.40 | Legorol | debuff = UnitBuff(unit, i, SHOW_CASTABLE_BUFFS); |
| 06:29.51 | Legorol | will the values of "i" you need to iterate over be consecutive? |
| 06:29.55 | Legorol | e.g. i = 1 to 10? |
| 06:30.03 | slouken | cladhaire, I can't take credit for those, but thanks. :) |
| 06:30.05 | Legorol | or will you have to iterate i = 1 to MAX_PARTY_DEBUFFS anyway? |
| 06:30.05 | ToastTheif | Hey Slouken, did you know when you type /nice or /anythingthatstartswithan"n" it crashes the game? |
| 06:30.17 | cladhaire | You'll need to go to MAX_PARTY_DEBUFFS anyway |
| 06:30.17 | Legorol | lol |
| 06:30.22 | cladhaire | It basically helps unitframes and raidframes |
| 06:30.31 | ToastTheif | I would've posted that on the bug forum, but I don't have an account atm |
| 06:30.33 | slouken | ... /nuts |
| 06:30.45 | End | .. oh /noes? |
| 06:30.50 | cladhaire | just check out RaidPulloutButton_UpdateBuffs in Blizzard_RaidUI.lua |
| 06:30.57 | Legorol | ok |
| 06:31.15 | Legorol | i gotta try this crash :D |
| 06:31.19 | ToastTheif | hmm |
| 06:31.25 | Legorol | didn't crash :( |
| 06:32.14 | ToastTheif | last time I played... which was 3 months ago it did, and I remember seeing a post about how /nice still does it |
| 06:32.24 | ToastTheif | that's what reminded me =P |
| 06:33.02 | cladhaire | Anyone on Test PVE that can group with me for a minute |
| 06:33.03 | cladhaire | ? |
| 06:33.10 | cladhaire | Alliance |
| 06:33.22 | ToastTheif | never fear, I get my new computer soon |
| 06:33.27 | ToastTheif | it shipped today! |
| 06:33.49 | cladhaire | what did you get? |
| 06:34.21 | ToastTheif | mmm |
| 06:34.21 | ToastTheif | a case, with some stuff inside ;) |
| 06:34.28 | cladhaire | sexy |
| 06:34.40 | End | lame, you should have gotten a case, and then some other stuff |
| 06:34.40 | Osagasu | I wonder... |
| 06:34.45 | Osagasu | ~seen slouken |
| 06:34.48 | purl | slouken is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 1m 3s). Has said a total of 30 messages. Is idling for 4m 15s |
| 06:34.50 | Osagasu | ^_^ |
| 06:34.51 | End | so that you put the stuff in yourself |
| 06:35.01 | ToastTheif | gig of ram, amd someting or another ####+ processor |
| 06:35.16 | ToastTheif | one of them 6600gt cards |
| 06:35.17 | cladhaire | You're so damn informative tonight =) |
| 06:35.33 | Osagasu | those 6600 gt cards are nice |
| 06:35.38 | Osagasu | lemme tell ya, I jsut got one |
| 06:35.46 | ToastTheif | a new perfect flat monitor |
| 06:35.47 | End | I got one over the summer |
| 06:35.53 | End | I got one of those too |
| 06:35.54 | ToastTheif | and umm... |
| 06:36.07 | ToastTheif | I'd have to look to remember the rest =P |
| 06:36.10 | Osagasu | I got my 4400 when Geforce 4 was new |
| 06:36.17 | ToastTheif | I ordered it on the freakin 3rd |
| 06:36.26 | End | oh dear |
| 06:36.27 | ToastTheif | 20 days later it ships |
| 06:36.35 | End | from what, dell or something? |
| 06:36.39 | ToastTheif | nah |
| 06:36.42 | ToastTheif | iBuyPower |
| 06:36.47 | Osagasu | never heard of em |
| 06:36.59 | ToastTheif | apparently one of the parts was on back-order |
| 06:37.02 | End | dell can be absurdly slow sometimes. not that I care, cuz I've never bought from them |
| 06:37.13 | ToastTheif | my first PC was from dell |
| 06:37.19 | Osagasu | never have, never will buy from gell or gateway |
| 06:37.26 | Osagasu | I went dumpster diving for my monitor |
| 06:37.30 | Osagasu | ^_^ |
| 06:37.36 | Tain | I love Dell's refurbs. |
| 06:37.39 | ToastTheif | that's why I won't get another from dell |
| 06:37.42 | Tain | Some fantastic deals. |
| 06:37.57 | End | a friend of mine ordered a computer from dell...3 and a half months later, it still hadn't shipped |
| 06:38.09 | Osagasu | hehe |
| 06:38.10 | Osagasu | owned |
| 06:38.18 | Tain | Yeah mine too, then it showed up, and they still send a nother one. |
| 06:38.19 | End | he canceled his order |
| 06:38.24 | Tain | So he got 2 |
| 06:38.27 | End | and got one from somewhere else |
| 06:38.33 | Osagasu | sue em! |
| 06:38.59 | End | all my stuff I've been getting from newegg |
| 06:39.06 | End | hell, even my WoW gamecards come from there |
| 06:39.37 | Osagasu | I get my parts from both newegg and tigerdirect |
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| 06:39.45 | ToastTheif2 | umm |
| 06:39.47 | Osagasu | [1:37am] <ToastTheif> that's why I won't get another from dell |
| 06:39.47 | Osagasu | [1:37am] <Tain> Some fantastic deals. |
| 06:39.48 | Osagasu | [1:37am] <End> a friend of mine ordered a computer from dell...3 and a half months later, it still hadn't shipped |
| 06:39.48 | Osagasu | [1:38am] <Osagasu> hehe |
| 06:39.48 | Osagasu | [1:38am] <Osagasu> owned |
| 06:39.49 | Osagasu | [1:38am] <Tain> Yeah mine too, then it showed up, and they still send a nother one. |
| 06:39.51 | Osagasu | [1:38am] <End> he canceled his order |
| 06:39.53 | Osagasu | [1:38am] <Tain> So he got 2 |
| 06:39.55 | Osagasu | [1:38am] <End> and got one from somewhere else |
| 06:39.57 | Osagasu | [1:38am] <Osagasu> sue em! |
| 06:39.59 | Osagasu | [1:38am] <End> all my stuff I've been getting from newegg |
| 06:40.01 | Osagasu | [1:39am] <End> hell, even my WoW gamecards come from there |
| 06:40.02 | ToastTheif2 | xchat isn't liking me atm |
| 06:40.03 | Osagasu | [1:39am] <Osagasu> I get my parts from both newegg and tigerdirect |
| 06:40.03 | Cair | Osagasu hello? |
| 06:40.13 | Legorol | I am still confused about the new UnitBuff/Debuff thing |
| 06:40.18 | Osagasu | sorry, it's supposed to go into PM |
| 06:40.19 | Legorol | i just bandaged myself, then tried: |
| 06:40.27 | Legorol | ./script message(UnitDebuff("player",1,SHOW_DISPELLABLE_DEBUFFS)) |
| 06:40.36 | Tain | I pay underage kids in korea to put together PCs for me and send them over for $14.95 |
| 06:40.38 | Legorol | nad it showed the recently bandaged thing |
| 06:40.47 | Legorol | i didn't think that was dispellable? |
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| 06:40.51 | cladhaire | I know it works.. i just have to figure out how =) |
| 06:40.57 | ToastTheif2 | so how am I connected twice? |
| 06:41.03 | ToastTheif2 | so confused |
| 06:41.16 | Tain | You have more than one side don't you. |
| 06:41.24 | Osagasu | bbs, showering |
| 06:41.24 | End | he got cloned! |
| 06:41.27 | End | like slouken! |
| 06:41.38 | ToastTheif2 | anyway, Im going to sleep |
| 06:41.51 | End | except ToastTheif's clone split off into a seperate entity |
| 06:41.55 | ToastTheif2 | tomorrow is thanksgiving, and then next week my computer should be here |
| 06:41.57 | ToastTheif2 | weeeeee |
| 06:42.02 | End | wiigii! |
| 06:42.19 | Cair | night ToastTheif |
| 06:42.23 | ToastTheif2 | oh and on sat, texas A&M is going to upset Texas |
| 06:42.24 | ToastTheif2 | w00t |
| 06:42.34 | Tain | ~tomorrow |
| 06:42.36 | purl | Tomorrow will probably suck too. |
| 06:42.44 | End | ~unproductivity |
| 06:42.46 | purl | yay! |
| 06:43.40 | End | haha. I was like where did my putty window go? except...-this- is my putty window |
| 06:43.59 | cladhaire | Legorol: use 0 and 1.. instead of the constants. |
| 06:44.03 | Tain | I tout I taw a putty tat |
| 06:44.06 | cladhaire | Log: those are just the values of the new options in the UI menu |
| 06:44.11 | End | not that kinda putty |
| 06:44.14 | ToastTheif2 | Estimated delivery |
| 06:44.14 | ToastTheif2 | Nov 29, 2005 4:30 PM |
| 06:44.21 | End | more like the PuTTY sort of putty |
| 06:44.33 | ToastTheif2 | tuesday?! |
| 06:44.35 | cladhaire | I have AI and PW:F on me.. UnitBuff("player",1,1) returns nil |
| 06:44.36 | ToastTheif2 | what the hell |
| 06:44.46 | ToastTheif2 | I don't want to get my computer on server maitence day |
| 06:45.01 | ToastTheif2 | I want to plaaaaaaaaaay |
| 06:45.09 | ToastTheif2 | oh well |
| 06:45.10 | ToastTheif2 | gnight |
| 06:45.11 | End | won't you have to install WoW? |
| 06:45.59 | End | (I mean jeez, wow will probably take a day. and yes, I know he D/C'd..I just like hearing myself talk. don't you? so, did you hear about them raisens? they were grapes once...) |
| 06:46.24 | Tain | I like silly putty. |
| 06:49.42 | Cair | weirdos |
| 06:50.19 | End | so, I think Cairenn might think I'm weird |
| 06:52.22 | cladhaire | Well I do. |
| 06:52.30 | cladhaire | so its a safe bet that she does :P |
| 06:52.36 | cladhaire | =) |
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| 06:55.36 | Tain | Glad I'm normal. |
| 06:55.44 | cladhaire | i never said that |
| 06:55.57 | Cair | yer *all* weirdos :p |
| 06:57.23 | Tain | Can't I just be known as, "eccentric?" |
| 06:58.13 | End | well, I'm not known as s'mores, so no |
| 06:58.45 | Depherios | Who wants to be normal? |
| 06:59.35 | Cair | normal is boring |
| 07:00.15 | kremonte | evening all |
| 07:00.26 | Cair | wb kremonte |
| 07:00.34 | Depherios | 'lo |
| 07:00.35 | End | EVENING MORTAL |
| 07:00.36 | End | I mean |
| 07:00.39 | End | yo |
| 07:00.49 | Depherios | Ugh, I need to get mIRC again... Trillian just doesn't cut it |
| 07:00.51 | kremonte | having those immortal moments End? |
| 07:00.57 | End | perhaps. |
| 07:03.23 | Tain | I want turkey. |
| 07:04.10 | Cair | mmmmmmmmmm |
| 07:04.11 | Cair | turkey |
| 07:06.09 | Osa|Clean|Shaven | hmm |
| 07:06.30 | Cair | Depherios: check out Gaim |
| 07:06.58 | Depherios | I love Trillian, and I love mIRC, I just love mIRC more than Trillian when it comes to a chat |
| 07:07.25 | Depherios | I've used everything I think... even had Odigo way back when... I miss when it was just ICQ |
| 07:07.27 | Osa|Clean|Shaven | this has got to be the best shave I've ever given myself |
| 07:08.31 | Tain | Did you use a straight edge razor? |
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| 07:10.24 | Depherios | Much better |
| 07:10.46 | Depherios | now I just have 1 billion preferences I have to change to get it running the way I like..... >_< |
| 07:14.24 | Tain | Thta's a lot of preferences. |
| 07:15.18 | Depherios | eh... a few aliases, changing the nicklist so idle people get lighter nicks, chat/editbox settings locations of things, removing the toolbar, sounds visual display stuff... uh... |
| 07:15.46 | Depherios | There's a reason I customize my UI in WoW, I know how I like things, and I'd rather them be that way XD |
| 07:16.25 | Tain | I know how I like things, and if it isn't too complicated I go after them. |
| 07:16.37 | Tain | But really if it's too much work then I probably didn't want it in the first place. |
| 07:16.43 | Depherios | lol |
| 07:16.48 | Depherios | Sometimes I'm that way |
| 07:16.59 | Depherios | for awhile I ran litestep... then I realized how crazy I was and stopped |
| 07:17.21 | Tain | haha yeah I think a lot of poeple have a fling with Litestep |
| 07:17.31 | Tain | it seems like it'll be a great fun thing. |
| 07:17.46 | Depherios | Well, my windows interface has always been very minimalistic, so I didn't have much of a need XD |
| 07:18.12 | Tain | But really after a great experience you wake up the next morning and look over and say, "What have I done?" |
| 07:18.12 | Depherios | I set up hotkeys using WinKey or Autohotkey and then I just... uh... don't use much of the default interface, lol |
| 07:18.19 | Depherios | I LOVE Windowblinds though |
| 07:18.57 | Tain | I did try Windowblinds, but I just didn't do anything with it. So off it went. |
| 07:19.03 | Depherios | Yeah, all that work just to realize it wasn't worth it. and no, not EVERYBODY has a fling with litestep, just cool people |
| 07:19.03 | Tain | Same with Konfabulator |
| 07:19.18 | Depherios | I love windowblinds, lol... I actually went and bought it |
| 07:20.24 | Depherios | at first I made my own skins, but then I realized that's kinda like cooking YOURSELF a big meal, it's satisfying, but not nearso as when somebody else does all the work |
| 07:20.57 | Depherios | I still do winamp skins sometimes though, the 2.0 skins are just too easy not to use |
| 07:24.51 | Tain | It's like trying to find a female with good looks who cooks and cleans. |
| 07:24.59 | Cair | >< |
| 07:25.12 | Cair | ~slap Paul |
| 07:25.14 | purl | ACTION slaps Paul, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 07:25.19 | Tain | Hi Cair! Wanted to see i you were still paying attention. :) |
| 07:25.26 | Cair | Uh hun |
| 07:27.14 | Tain | One of these days I'll clean up around here. |
| 07:27.37 | Tain | And then maybe I'll have a girl over. |
| 07:29.22 | Cair | mog! |
| 07:29.28 | Cair | oh noes! |
| 07:29.29 | End | moog? |
| 07:29.34 | Cair | not a ... girl?!?! |
| 07:30.06 | Tain | She may never make it out again. |
| 07:30.14 | Cair | haha |
| 07:30.23 | Depherios | I lost my GF in my room once... she wasn't even hiding.. she just went to sleep |
| 07:32.03 | Depherios | at the time, the crap on my floor was knee deep |
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| 07:42.35 | *** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 07:42.51 | Kaelten | back |
| 07:42.57 | Cair | wb Kael :) |
| 07:43.17 | zeeg | anyone know php/gd? |
| 07:43.26 | kremonte | i know a bit of gd |
| 07:43.27 | Kaelten | I know php but not gd |
| 07:43.29 | kremonte | but php indeed |
| 07:43.54 | zeeg | hrmm |
| 07:44.02 | zeeg | i need advice |
| 07:44.03 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/map.php?typeID=1&recordID=2164&zoneID=148&sizeID=3 |
| 07:44.03 | zeeg | basically |
| 07:44.30 | zeeg | when boxes "connect" (thats just do rectangles drawn per box) i wanna kill the borders, which I'm assuming i cant just draw on top of a transparent image, so im going to need to figure out how know when there's a connecting box |
| 07:53.28 | Cair | okay folks, time for me to go sleep |
| 07:53.46 | Cair | zeeg, don't spam my channel too much, you've got your own :p |
| 07:53.54 | zeeg | i spam everyones channel |
| 07:54.03 | Cair|sleep | well, please don't do it here :p |
| 07:54.55 | kremonte | sleeping again, cair? :o |
| 07:55.27 | Cair|sleep | hoping to, yup :p |
| 07:55.44 | Cair|sleep | was up until 7 this morning then back up around 1, so sleep would be nice |
| 07:55.51 | kremonte | well, good luck! :P |
| 07:55.56 | Cair|sleep | heh, thanks |
| 07:59.58 | Osa|Clean|Shaven | nini |
| 08:00.05 | Osagasu | I'm away too |
| 08:00.39 | Cair|sleep | slouken: email |
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| 08:09.48 | Depherios | Hello |
| 08:09.51 | Depherios | Couldn't sleep Cair? |
| 08:10.28 | Depherios | oh wait, it's been 3 minutes... go sense of time |
| 08:12.22 | zeeg | btw |
| 08:12.30 | zeeg | for anyone who has a DBC -> CSV parser.. that doesnt handle floats/etc. |
| 08:12.32 | zeeg | here's ours: www.wowguru.com/admin/NewDBC1.exe |
| 08:12.38 | zeeg | Exact same thing.. just works correctly |
| 08:30.15 | Kaelten | night guys |
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| 09:18.18 | Stylpe | iI have to repeat my question from earlier tonight, since I lost my net connection right after I asked it |
| 09:18.52 | Stylpe | Does anyone know a reliable way to make sure the player is hitting the target? |
| 09:19.04 | Stylpe | i.e. Attack is on |
| 09:19.26 | Depherios | discord macro functions |
| 09:19.55 | Depherios | ImAttacking() |
| 09:19.55 | Depherios | Parameters: none |
| 09:19.55 | Depherios | Returns: true or nil |
| 09:19.55 | Depherios | Desc: Returns true only if you have auto-attack turned on. This function is accurate |
| 09:19.55 | Depherios | whether a mod has disabled PlayerFrame or not. |
| 09:19.55 | Depherios | Alias: DMF_IA |
| 09:20.33 | Depherios | might be a better way, but that's an easy way... and there's a bunch of other good macro functions in there as well |
| 09:20.43 | Depherios | http://www.discordmods.com/DiscordMacroFunctions/ |
| 09:21.35 | Stylpe | Sweet, thanks =) |
| 09:21.47 | Stylpe | My Gamepad mod will now be complete! |
| 09:26.02 | Stylpe | Heh, pretty smart implementation |
| 09:26.28 | Stylpe | Forgive me for ripping it out =P |
| 09:26.31 | Depherios | yeah at first I was just nabbing the code out of the addon |
| 09:26.42 | Depherios | but then I started using enough of the functions that I don't bother anymore XD |
| 09:27.03 | Depherios | it's not mine, I just use it... |
| 09:27.24 | Stylpe | oh, okay =P |
| 09:27.51 | Stylpe | Getting hard to remember who everyone is. I just had to go by assumption |
| 09:28.03 | Stylpe | And your name sounded familiar |
| 09:28.19 | Stylpe | Then again, I haven't slept for 20 hours... |
| 09:28.30 | Depherios | lol, I'm mostly a graphics guy... Complex scripting i too much work for me usually, I do little things |
| 09:28.34 | Stylpe | and don't plan to do that for another 10 |
| 09:28.46 | Depherios | lol, I understand |
| 09:29.28 | Depherios | CheckForStatus, CorrectBuff, GetActionID XD uh... GetCurrentShapeshiftForm, HealthLost, IsPetAttacking, IsValidTarget, ManaLost, RunMacro, SmartChat, and TargetLowestHealthPlayer O_o -- wow, I'm using a LOT of those |
| 09:31.33 | Depherios | well... I "used" TLHPlayer's code actually it's the only one I needed to modify |
| 09:31.58 | Industrial | s'been a while since i last css'ed |
| 09:31.58 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:32.00 | Depherios | lol, what's the problem? CSS I can do XD |
| 09:32.07 | Industrial | heh, let me pastebin |
| 09:32.11 | Depherios | ... could O_o crap, I might be in the same position |
| 09:32.40 | Depherios | lol |
| 09:33.07 | Industrial | http://pastebin.com/436926 |
| 09:33.11 | Industrial | doesnt even work >_< |
| 09:33.18 | Industrial | i feel so noob |
| 09:33.40 | Industrial | and i should stop using tabs |
| 09:33.41 | Industrial | :\ |
| 09:33.51 | Depherios | YUSS |
| 09:33.55 | Depherios | STRICT XHMTL |
| 09:34.01 | Depherios | KUDOS POINTS |
| 09:34.09 | Depherios | whoop caps, got excited |
| 09:35.11 | Industrial | well ofcource |
| 09:35.25 | Depherios | sorry, I'm too used to helping nooblets do web design |
| 09:35.27 | Industrial | im a man of no crap and standards \o/ |
| 09:35.43 | Industrial | heh, im a webdev |
| 09:35.43 | Depherios | Even on other pages and forums and things I use <img src="" /> |
| 09:35.52 | Industrial | graphics is my weakest point :\ |
| 09:36.07 | Depherios | heh, I was a graphic design junkie for a few years |
| 09:36.51 | Depherios | crap, too many webpages open |
| 09:37.39 | Industrial | hmm i should prolly not call them row1-4 but header menu content footer or something |
| 09:37.57 | Stylpe | *snicker* This is sooooo cool, silly and funny all at the same time |
| 09:38.00 | Depherios | get it working first, worry about naming conventions later... I just comment stuff |
| 09:38.07 | Stylpe | I'm playing WoW with a game pad |
| 09:38.15 | Industrial | but.. |
| 09:38.19 | Industrial | how do you clock/aim |
| 09:38.21 | Industrial | use tab? |
| 09:38.29 | Stylpe | Here's the setup |
| 09:38.29 | Industrial | click* |
| 09:38.46 | Stylpe | I have a gamepad almost identical to a PS2 gamepad |
| 09:38.48 | Industrial | tell me, im all about setups :] i love itnerfaces :] but thats prolly why we are all here |
| 09:39.02 | Depherios | I use tab for targetting anyway...... well... he TargetNearestEnemy() function anyway |
| 09:39.06 | Stylpe | I have my Dpad arrows set to movement back and forward, and turning |
| 09:39.21 | Depherios | I'd hate to lose mouselook |
| 09:39.22 | Stylpe | I have the lower pair of shoulder buttons set to strafing |
| 09:39.38 | Depherios | BAH CSS okay back to checking this XD |
| 09:39.40 | Stylpe | I have my upper left shoulde button set to TargetNearestEnemy() |
| 09:39.43 | Industrial | Stylpe: that actually works with a gamepad ;) |
| 09:39.47 | Industrial | Depherios: lmao |
| 09:40.02 | Stylpe | I have my upper right shoulder button set to shift+right click (loot all) |
| 09:40.15 | Stylpe | And here's the cool part: |
| 09:41.20 | Stylpe | I made a mod that uses an ability/spell based on the situation, and I have set up four such 'logics', one for single target, one for two targets, one for more than two targets, and one for gaining aggro |
| 09:41.31 | Depherios | style tags! |
| 09:41.34 | Depherios | no... |
| 09:41.39 | Depherios | wait... |
| 09:42.24 | Stylpe | So far I've only tested it on soloing mobs on a cauldron in WPL, and it's suh-weet! |
| 09:44.38 | Depherios | ... the style works fine with style tags |
| 09:44.41 | Depherios | ..... so... |
| 09:46.01 | Depherios | must be with the <link> tag(s) |
| 09:46.05 | Stylpe | Fuck, I died =/ |
| 09:46.50 | Depherios | or how the CSS is put into the.css files |
| 09:46.56 | Depherios | and I don't even remember how that works |
| 09:47.11 | Stylpe | Hmm, I have to setup a 'Survive' logic |
| 09:47.13 | Depherios | God. I forgot how to do everything lol |
| 09:47.19 | Depherios | lol |
| 09:47.26 | Depherios | What class? |
| 09:47.32 | Stylpe | Warrior |
| 09:47.58 | Stylpe | i.e. not alot of options =( |
| 09:48.23 | Depherios | ahh, of course... why do the four classes I know the least about, have to be the four most common... |
| 09:49.03 | Depherios | If I ever make a warrior, I'll have to do something like that, my current Interface is terrible for non spellcasters |
| 09:49.34 | Depherios | the same keys I use for movement, are he same keys I use for my action buttons |
| 09:49.49 | Depherios | ... my T key is wearing out I think |
| 09:50.26 | *** join/#wowi-lounge duke|ib (i=dukeku@c-67-160-162-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 09:51.21 | Depherios | btw, I've never seen pastebin before (I haven't been social online in about 3 years) -- so wow... |
| 09:52.00 | duke|ib | nifty, innit? |
| 09:52.07 | Depherios | oh god yes |
| 09:52.22 | Depherios | lol, I used to run a cgi script off my own server that did basically the same thing |
| 09:52.26 | Depherios | but yeah |
| 09:52.35 | Industrial | heh |
| 09:52.38 | Depherios | that was dial up... and... man I wish that was around back then |
| 09:52.53 | Industrial | pastebin.com has the most languages to color |
| 09:53.02 | Industrial | theres also rafb.net/paste wich is pretty good |
| 09:53.04 | Industrial | :) |
| 09:53.18 | Industrial | but at pastebin.com you can have your own pastebin |
| 09:53.22 | Depherios | I used to hang out in web design chats, back before the stupefaction of the internet |
| 09:53.25 | Industrial | wow.pastebin.com, ace.pastebin.com |
| 09:53.30 | duke|ib | ahhh! |
| 09:53.35 | Industrial | lol? |
| 09:53.44 | Industrial | Depherios: the css is working now |
| 09:53.47 | Industrial | ;) |
| 09:53.49 | Depherios | XD |
| 09:54.18 | Industrial | it's current state: http://pastebin.com/436939 |
| 09:54.30 | Industrial | i legally have nothing to do today at work |
| 09:54.37 | Industrial | so i thought, why not make a website for my wow mods |
| 09:54.38 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 09:54.46 | Depherios | lol |
| 09:54.51 | Industrial | not that they are anything special.. |
| 09:55.01 | Depherios | yeah, I completely understand that sentiment |
| 09:55.31 | Depherios | Crap, I don't even have any seperate Addons for mine, mine are just series of data in Flexbar, I really should seperate them out, lol |
| 09:55.46 | Depherios | they'd all work fine on their own, I was just lazy |
| 09:55.52 | Industrial | lol |
| 09:56.02 | Industrial | Depherios: maybe you can explain this to me |
| 09:56.18 | Depherios | shoot |
| 09:56.20 | Industrial | why is the padding and border calculated in with the size of the box element |
| 09:56.22 | Industrial | I HATE THAT |
| 09:56.25 | Industrial | >:@ |
| 09:56.46 | Depherios | lol... I have no idea... I think even the W3C has it set up that way |
| 09:56.50 | Industrial | i always have to make the width smaller then i want to |
| 09:56.56 | Depherios | yup |
| 09:56.58 | Industrial | because i substract the apdding and border |
| 09:57.04 | Industrial | thats rediculous |
| 09:57.08 | Depherios | what's worst is when you do DHTML |
| 09:57.19 | Industrial | mm thats IE |
| 09:57.20 | Industrial | :p |
| 09:57.21 | Depherios | and if you want to show/hide borders, you have to change the size of the box to do it |
| 09:57.24 | Depherios | yeah :P |
| 09:57.36 | Industrial | i have IE inside FF |
| 09:57.36 | Industrial | :> |
| 09:57.38 | Depherios | I did most of my stuff before anybody was using firefox (used firefox though!) |
| 09:57.49 | Depherios | mozilla before that |
| 09:57.55 | Depherios | tabbed browsing = :F |
| 09:58.08 | Depherios | but you can make things really pretty in IE, lol |
| 09:58.16 | Depherios | alpha = my friend |
| 09:59.01 | Industrial | alpha doenst work in ff? |
| 09:59.04 | Depherios | most silly normal people thought my webpage used flash |
| 09:59.09 | Industrial | heh |
| 09:59.16 | Depherios | Don't know, it didn't back then |
| 09:59.19 | Depherios | but that was ages ago |
| 09:59.28 | Depherios | I STILL don't know the Mozilla DOM so |
| 10:00.06 | Depherios | I remember I was taliking to this girl who did web design for a LIVING, and I told her that I could handle more than the basics, but I didn't know the Mozilla DOM... and she had no clue what I was talking about... |
| 10:00.52 | Industrial | ;\ |
| 10:01.03 | Industrial | its just that people are scared by code |
| 10:01.09 | Depherios | lol yeah |
| 10:01.16 | Industrial | they dont know cleanliness on the PC |
| 10:01.25 | Industrial | using this XP pro install for 2 years on this laptop |
| 10:01.29 | Industrial | its till clean |
| 10:01.33 | Industrial | still* |
| 10:01.46 | Depherios | I suck at coding, it takes me 5 tries to do what people who know as much as me, do in 1 lol |
| 10:01.49 | Industrial | never had a virus, never had adware, spyware, whatever |
| 10:01.58 | Depherios | but I can do hex color code in my head! |
| 10:02.05 | Industrial | lol |
| 10:02.06 | Industrial | :P |
| 10:02.08 | Depherios | RGB color code... right here *points to head* |
| 10:02.20 | Industrial | i can do it somewhat |
| 10:02.27 | Industrial | but.. only colors i use.. |
| 10:02.29 | Industrial | :P |
| 10:02.35 | Depherios | I was a teacher's assistant for a web design class for 2 years, the students weren't allowed to use ANY references online |
| 10:02.41 | Industrial | i love anything + grey \o/ |
| 10:02.54 | Depherios | nothing but a text editor and a browser to try it in |
| 10:02.55 | Industrial | blue-grey, reg-grey, green-grey, go go color schemes |
| 10:03.00 | Depherios | so they had no color references XD |
| 10:03.01 | Industrial | red* |
| 10:03.22 | Industrial | what school did u do? |
| 10:03.29 | Industrial | im now doing IT-Mediaproduction |
| 10:03.30 | Depherios | so I'd have them point to a color, and I'd give them the code for it... I used to almost always get it first try, but now I get it within 3 |
| 10:03.45 | Depherios | ...lol, this was High School |
| 10:03.53 | Industrial | heh |
| 10:04.14 | Depherios | I never went in for any advanced schooling, I got a desk job right out of school, HATED sitting down all day... |
| 10:04.22 | Depherios | and all my plans for life went down the crapper |
| 10:04.40 | Depherios | my HOBBIES have me on my butt all day, I can't do it at work/school as well |
| 10:05.14 | Depherios | which sucks |
| 10:05.30 | Industrial | hm, i live in the netherlands.. kinda complicated school system |
| 10:05.37 | Industrial | could go look for a graph |
| 10:05.38 | Industrial | sec |
| 10:05.50 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:06.06 | Depherios | I had the misfortune of being trapped in the American public school system |
| 10:06.14 | Industrial | http://www.iias.nl/oideion/journal/issue01/bisschop/multimed/diagram.gif |
| 10:06.38 | Depherios | Nice |
| 10:06.52 | Industrial | right so after the first 8 years you get to go to one of the 4 |
| 10:06.57 | Depherios | really nice |
| 10:07.05 | Industrial | i could have easily done VWO |
| 10:07.07 | Industrial | but i was lazy |
| 10:07.11 | Industrial | so i did VMBO |
| 10:07.18 | Industrial | now im at MBO |
| 10:07.20 | Industrial | year 3/4 |
| 10:07.27 | Industrial | internship all year >_> |
| 10:07.39 | Industrial | if i finish this im going to do HBO |
| 10:07.47 | Industrial | eventually university maybe.. |
| 10:07.54 | Industrial | but its taking me so long.. |
| 10:08.08 | Industrial | i could have gone to university next year, but insted i now need at least 6 years |
| 10:08.53 | Depherios | lol, I graduated at 19 |
| 10:09.03 | Depherios | my last two years of High School consisted of showing up |
| 10:09.15 | Depherios | hence all the teacher's assistant positions |
| 10:09.30 | Industrial | yeah my last 2 years here was exactly that.. they tought me what a variable is !!! og noes!!!111eleventy-one |
| 10:09.33 | Depherios | worked in the library, did video production (as a teacher's assitant) took science classes... |
| 10:09.46 | Depherios | was a nerd |
| 10:09.48 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:09.55 | Industrial | heh, thats good :P |
| 10:10.08 | Industrial | nerd ~= geek |
| 10:10.17 | Depherios | now if only I didn't suck at math |
| 10:10.17 | Industrial | nerd gets you somewhere |
| 10:10.22 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:10.23 | Industrial | word, heh |
| 10:10.40 | Depherios | problem is, I don't want to do NERD for a living, lol |
| 10:10.44 | Industrial | so im stuck a year making ASP *twitch* Jscript websites |
| 10:10.58 | Depherios | right now, I'm working at a video game store, lol |
| 10:11.03 | Industrial | lol |
| 10:11.13 | Industrial | if it pays the bill |
| 10:11.15 | Industrial | .. |
| 10:11.16 | Depherios | can't wait for employee appreciation! |
| 10:11.41 | Depherios | going to buy a bunch of WoW gamecards on uber discount, lol |
| 10:12.24 | Industrial | hehe |
| 10:12.34 | Industrial | man, cant u slip those things into your pocket anyway? |
| 10:12.38 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:12.49 | Industrial | "oops" |
| 10:12.53 | Depherios | yeah, they want us to do "checks" as we close |
| 10:12.55 | Industrial | "ther goes a year of wow" |
| 10:13.00 | Industrial | oh ic |
| 10:13.01 | Depherios | to see if our co-workers are stealing... |
| 10:13.05 | Depherios | ... we laugh |
| 10:13.06 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:13.08 | Industrial | hah |
| 10:13.08 | Industrial | :D |
| 10:13.11 | Depherios | really... have you seen the size of a DS game? |
| 10:13.20 | Depherios | they're smaller than a quarter |
| 10:13.25 | kremonte | o.o |
| 10:13.26 | kremonte | thats small |
| 10:13.41 | Industrial | "what have you got today" "i have game X" "oh cool i have game Y today" .. "well see you tomorrow" |
| 10:13.57 | Depherios | lol, we can check any game out for 4 days heh |
| 10:14.06 | Industrial | o thats nice |
| 10:15.48 | Depherios | http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2004/10/07/h-103_32001_h-103_32001_dsgbazz.jpg.jpg <-- size comparison |
| 10:15.55 | Depherios | just to the regular GBA games if you know those |
| 10:16.08 | Depherios | I'm about to just take out a quarter and take a pic myself |
| 10:16.13 | Industrial | WOW thats smapp |
| 10:16.15 | Industrial | small |
| 10:16.16 | Depherios | I can never find a good pic |
| 10:16.19 | Depherios | they're FLAT too XD |
| 10:16.53 | Stylpe | Good lord, how do you not lose them? |
| 10:16.58 | Depherios | So ever snce those came out, nobody even TRIES to do checks anymore |
| 10:17.10 | Depherios | you could steal every DS game we have used and nobody could tell |
| 10:17.34 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:17.38 | Depherios | very carefully |
| 10:17.46 | Depherios | they come in a case, thank god, unlike the GBA games |
| 10:17.55 | Depherios | and MOST people are intelligent enough to keep the case |
| 10:18.08 | Depherios | the few we have without a case... well we've gotten 3 traded in... we lost one |
| 10:18.10 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:18.20 | Depherios | I lost one at home for a few days |
| 10:18.27 | Depherios | I lost my Gameboy Micro for almost a week |
| 10:18.31 | Depherios | that had me scared |
| 10:18.48 | Industrial | lol |
| 10:19.03 | Depherios | if you haven't seen those things, they're REALLY small |
| 10:19.10 | Depherios | now I have a big lanyard on it, so I don't lose it XD |
| 10:19.49 | Industrial | Depherios: uploaindg a screenshot, if you dont have this ff addon im going to slapz0r you :D |
| 10:19.51 | Industrial | sec |
| 10:20.09 | Depherios | ...ff? |
| 10:20.35 | Industrial | firefox |
| 10:20.58 | Depherios | ahh.. FF has EXTENSIONS XD |
| 10:21.04 | Industrial | http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/954/untitled7xz.png |
| 10:21.05 | Industrial | doh |
| 10:21.12 | Industrial | im so confusing addon extension module etc |
| 10:21.27 | Depherios | adblock and tabbrowser extensions are all I'm using right now... I haven't been doing web design, lol |
| 10:21.30 | Industrial | yes thats my visual style |
| 10:21.32 | Industrial | no its not mac |
| 10:21.35 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:21.43 | Depherios | remember, I use windowblinds? XD |
| 10:21.46 | Industrial | no/? :X |
| 10:21.51 | Depherios | I had my own custom windowblinds skin for YEARS with no buttons at the top of windows |
| 10:21.59 | Industrial | i use visual styles ;) i dont like stardock products |
| 10:22.03 | Depherios | and I had no taskbar either, I should point out |
| 10:22.19 | Depherios | heh, I've been using windowblinds since well.... a long time |
| 10:22.42 | Industrial | http://wmii.de/ |
| 10:22.44 | Industrial | wmii ftw |
| 10:22.46 | Industrial | :> |
| 10:22.52 | Industrial | thats what i use on *nix |
| 10:23.18 | Industrial | basicall it manages windows for you |
| 10:23.29 | Depherios | yah |
| 10:23.33 | Industrial | wich is a cool idea |
| 10:23.38 | Industrial | and does a good job at it |
| 10:23.58 | Industrial | v |
| 10:23.59 | Industrial | http://www.cc.gatech.edu/classes/cs6751_97_winter/Topics/dialog-wimp/ |
| 10:24.02 | Industrial | :p |
| 10:24.07 | Depherios | I remember wimp |
| 10:24.10 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:24.27 | Industrial | wimp: Windows, Icons, Menus and Pointing device. |
| 10:24.36 | Depherios | there was an old interface for.......... god what was it |
| 10:24.39 | Industrial | wimp is outdated |
| 10:24.44 | Depherios | not litestep |
| 10:24.53 | Industrial | wimp is so 1992 |
| 10:24.54 | Industrial | :\ |
| 10:24.58 | Depherios | ... I use my own keyboard shortcuts to do a lot... www.autohotkey.com is my FRIEND |
| 10:25.06 | Depherios | I'm even deader than WIMP XD |
| 10:25.13 | Industrial | lol |
| 10:25.17 | Depherios | I use WIN+R more than I browse my folder tree |
| 10:25.29 | Industrial | WIN+R ? |
| 10:25.37 | Depherios | windows key + R = Run window |
| 10:25.37 | Stylpe | run |
| 10:26.04 | Depherios | I'm not a pointing device guy |
| 10:26.07 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:26.15 | Stylpe | I'm going out |
| 10:26.21 | Stylpe | Have to try to stay awake =P |
| 10:26.23 | Stylpe | later |
| 10:26.25 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:26.25 | Depherios | later |
| 10:27.00 | Depherios | so yeah... I don't even have desktop icons |
| 10:27.07 | Depherios | and I use direct hotkeys to most of my programs using autohotkey |
| 10:27.41 | Depherios | win+X = FF; win+1 = quick folder (with actual icons, but I still type in the start of the icon I want and hit enter rather than clicking on them) |
| 10:28.34 | Depherios | the keyboard is mightier than the mouse? |
| 10:29.53 | Depherios | ... so it's probably not a surprise if I say that's mostly what I change about WoW, make things less click, more press heh |
| 10:31.59 | Depherios | ...yeah, I get a lot of this functionality already lol |
| 10:32.25 | Industrial | hehe, my current layout |
| 10:32.30 | Industrial | for wow: |
| 10:32.43 | Depherios | mine has no screen as of yet... well... then again, there's not much to see lol |
| 10:32.49 | Industrial | wasd: move |
| 10:33.07 | Industrial | q: attach, S-q: pet attack |
| 10:33.07 | Depherios | see mine is hard to explain www.ergodex.com |
| 10:33.13 | Depherios | err http://www.ergodex.com |
| 10:33.54 | Industrial | z: walk, x:sit (need to make this sleep, sit sucks) |
| 10:34.03 | Industrial | c: assist |
| 10:34.08 | Industrial | e: bag |
| 10:34.18 | Industrial | r, personal window/skills etc |
| 10:34.20 | Depherios | http://home.comcast.net/~deph/ergodexwow.jpg <-- my controls |
| 10:34.40 | Industrial | S-r, guild/friends |
| 10:34.47 | Industrial | f, skills |
| 10:34.51 | Industrial | S-f, talents |
| 10:34.57 | Industrial | v, quests |
| 10:35.02 | Depherios | lol, yeah, that's like me everything RIGHT THERE |
| 10:35.05 | Industrial | g, map |
| 10:35.11 | Industrial | S-g minimap toggle |
| 10:35.19 | Industrial | C-g Yatlas toggle |
| 10:35.25 | Industrial | thats it |
| 10:35.26 | Industrial | ;) |
| 10:35.40 | Industrial | EVERYTHING in qwerasdfzxcv |
| 10:35.42 | Depherios | the four arrows are move... when a thumb key (across the bottom) is pressed those 12 main buttons (two clumps of 6) become action keys XD |
| 10:35.57 | Depherios | http://home.comcast.net/~deph/wowbuttons.gif <-- they show up in that... or did until a few days ago |
| 10:36.18 | Industrial | hmm howmuch is that keyboard? |
| 10:36.26 | zeeg | O.o |
| 10:36.39 | Depherios | the buttons around the arrows are all basically what you listed... the pinkie key (it sticks out) is ALT, and changes the function of many of the buttons, and shift is how over there as well |
| 10:36.43 | Depherios | (that's an old picture) |
| 10:36.46 | Industrial | i want to move to tfgh for moving though |
| 10:36.50 | Depherios | ergodex is my friend..... it's expensive... |
| 10:37.00 | Industrial | :\ |
| 10:37.17 | Industrial | what i want on my keyboard is |
| 10:37.23 | Industrial | space to be a normal key |
| 10:37.24 | Depherios | I saw it, saved up, and bought it as soon as possible... it's 150 bucks |
| 10:37.33 | Depherios | get www.autohotkey.com |
| 10:37.34 | Industrial | alt, meta, shitf, control to be at the thump position |
| 10:37.42 | Industrial | thumb* |
| 10:37.52 | Depherios | you can bind space then a keypress to be different than just space |
| 10:38.00 | Industrial | nice |
| 10:38.09 | Depherios | I couldn't do gaming without autohotkey http://www.autohotkey.com |
| 10:38.18 | Depherios | I Have pedals under my desk for move foreward and backward as well |
| 10:38.40 | Depherios | and the thumb keys on my mouse, are strafe left and right, and jump and the scroll up and down BUTTONS are backward |
| 10:38.53 | Depherios | I alternate between methods of control depending on the situation, lol |
| 10:39.05 | Industrial | i press mouse2 for strafing |
| 10:39.10 | Depherios | but yeah, my WASD goes away when I press a thumb key... so it's a BAD layout for non spellcasters |
| 10:39.11 | Industrial | and looking |
| 10:40.12 | Depherios | my WASD changes so when I hold down the alt key (that little pinkie button) left and right are turn, and up is autorun |
| 10:40.29 | Depherios | but I only use them to go up spiral rams |
| 10:40.30 | Depherios | ramps |
| 10:40.32 | Industrial | flexbar = evil btw |
| 10:40.32 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:40.46 | Depherios | flexbar is the only way I can get those shift states to remap without a TON of work |
| 10:40.53 | Industrial | yeah i know |
| 10:40.54 | Industrial | :( |
| 10:41.01 | Industrial | well |
| 10:41.07 | Industrial | i use LuaSlinger and Visor for my buttons |
| 10:41.17 | Industrial | its not that bad |
| 10:41.19 | Depherios | ... HmmMMMmm? |
| 10:41.24 | Industrial | *digs up little script* |
| 10:41.52 | Depherios | like I said, I've done my own digging around, but haven't really ENTERED the community until uh... |
| 10:42.09 | Depherios | [02:42] -NickServ- Registered: 3 hours 45 minutes 53 seconds ago |
| 10:42.37 | Industrial | heh |
| 10:42.38 | Industrial | :) |
| 10:42.41 | Industrial | http://pastebin.com/436961 |
| 10:42.48 | Industrial | do you know about ace? |
| 10:42.53 | Depherios | I surfed around reading and replying on a few forums, and commented to a few addons on curse... |
| 10:43.01 | Depherios | yeah... I HAVE ace, although it's disabled ATM |
| 10:43.05 | Industrial | k |
| 10:43.13 | Depherios | don't know much about it though |
| 10:43.21 | Industrial | im an ace nethousiast, 70% of my addons (not much) are ace |
| 10:43.33 | Industrial | i have 512MB ram so i have to be minimalistic |
| 10:43.55 | Depherios | yeah... I have 1 gig right now, I just got a nother 512 stick, but it was defective so I sent it back waiting for it to get back to me |
| 10:44.08 | Depherios | is Visor a default function I don't know about? |
| 10:44.30 | Industrial | no, visor is an addon wich lets you change anything on a frame |
| 10:44.33 | Industrial | size, width height |
| 10:44.35 | Industrial | alpha |
| 10:44.37 | Industrial | position |
| 10:44.39 | Depherios | ahh... fantastic |
| 10:44.42 | Industrial | relative position |
| 10:44.44 | Depherios | FAN tastic |
| 10:44.48 | Industrial | it also (my own addition/idea) |
| 10:44.53 | Industrial | gives you 80 buttons |
| 10:44.55 | Industrial | ;) |
| 10:44.59 | Depherios | heh |
| 10:45.00 | Industrial | VisorActionButton |
| 10:45.15 | Industrial | Visor:Do('f=MainMenuBarBackpackButton h=FALSE p=UIParent pr=UIParent p1=BOTTOMRIGHT p2=BOTTOMRIGHT x=0 y=0') |
| 10:45.18 | Depherios | I'll stick with flexbar for now, more because all my scripting is in it than anything else |
| 10:45.29 | Depherios | I'm using the HIGHLY resource sucking Discord Frame Modifier right now actually |
| 10:45.55 | Industrial | take the backpack button, show it, parent it to the UIParent, and make it cling its bottomright point to the bottomright of the uiparent with offset 0, 0 |
| 10:46.06 | Depherios | heh |
| 10:46.12 | Depherios | all my stuff is docked around the worldframe |
| 10:46.24 | Industrial | that means if you hide the MainMenuBar, the buton wint hide, because the parent is changed to UIParent |
| 10:46.26 | Depherios | because I keep changing my mind about how much extra space I need at the bottom |
| 10:46.34 | Industrial | (wich is the 2d layer wow paints the UI on) |
| 10:46.39 | Depherios | I know XD |
| 10:46.43 | Industrial | k heh |
| 10:46.46 | Depherios | I know all the default stuff, lol |
| 10:46.49 | Depherios | well not ALL |
| 10:46.50 | Depherios | but the basics |
| 10:46.53 | Industrial | and that script |
| 10:46.56 | Industrial | with the matrix |
| 10:46.59 | Industrial | i made that myself |
| 10:47.14 | Industrial | what it does is in that pastebin example give me a matrix of 3 bars on top of eachother |
| 10:47.18 | Depherios | but yeah... I have the PARENT set to UI parent, but I have everything "clinging" to the underside of the world frame |
| 10:47.21 | Industrial | 10 buttons wide |
| 10:47.56 | Industrial | bet i can rezise the world frame with visor too |
| 10:48.01 | Depherios | you can |
| 10:48.08 | Depherios | you can resize it using default functions |
| 10:48.09 | Industrial | removing yet another addon ViewPort |
| 10:48.13 | Industrial | ;) |
| 10:48.34 | Depherios | I like viewport for ONE reason..... |
| 10:48.38 | Depherios | I change it CONSTANTLY |
| 10:48.43 | Depherios | and it doesn't save settings per character |
| 10:48.45 | Industrial | Depherios: the addon luaSlinger can execute LUA ingame on the press of the button or on an event you set on it |
| 10:48.50 | Industrial | you get 40 possible scripts |
| 10:48.56 | Industrial | i have my visor setup in it |
| 10:48.59 | Depherios | ...... dude.... I need to get that |
| 10:49.05 | Industrial | ;) |
| 10:49.18 | Depherios | XD |
| 10:49.32 | Depherios | right now though, all I have showing when nothing is pressed is chatframes the minimap |
| 10:49.34 | Industrial | i decided im going to make my site for the addons as bare as i can make it |
| 10:49.34 | Depherios | and my health bars |
| 10:49.38 | Depherios | oh... and titan panel |
| 10:49.46 | Depherios | sweet sweet titan panel |
| 10:49.46 | Industrial | if someone complains ill just tell them they havent configged their browser correctly |
| 10:49.51 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:49.51 | Industrial | i dont like titan panel |
| 10:50.04 | Depherios | I modify almost everything on titan panel |
| 10:50.07 | Depherios | I hate how colorful it is |
| 10:50.29 | Depherios | it has a black background (no worldframe under it) all the headings are yellow all the text is white, it's all made more minimalistic XD |
| 10:50.36 | Industrial | basically all thats in my screen is 10 buttons or so, my minimap and the bags buttons wich i dont need anyway (but they are small, 50%) |
| 10:50.51 | Industrial | im aminimalistic freak |
| 10:50.52 | Industrial | D |
| 10:50.53 | Industrial | :d |
| 10:50.58 | Depherios | lol, the only time I need my bag buttons are when I get a new bag |
| 10:51.01 | Industrial | -ic |
| 10:51.04 | Depherios | and need to swap |
| 10:51.06 | Industrial | Depherios: yeah |
| 10:51.11 | Depherios | I'm a minimalistic freak too |
| 10:51.14 | Industrial | good |
| 10:51.15 | Industrial | :d |
| 10:51.18 | Industrial | stick around then |
| 10:51.18 | Depherios | heh |
| 10:51.21 | Industrial | and, ##ace |
| 10:51.22 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 10:51.36 | Depherios | I had it set up so it was like an RTS interface |
| 10:51.42 | Depherios | where EVERYTHING was across the bottom |
| 10:51.46 | Industrial | :) |
| 10:51.54 | Depherios | left botom was 12 buttons, right bottom was minimap |
| 10:52.00 | Industrial | i have a littel project |
| 10:52.02 | Industrial | idAddons |
| 10:52.02 | Depherios | health bars, in the middle, along with other info |
| 10:52.06 | Industrial | little* |
| 10:52.19 | Industrial | im going to rip alot of good code and stuff it into one part |
| 10:52.32 | Industrial | i already stripped chatscroll from 14KB to 2kb |
| 10:52.36 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:52.46 | Depherios | make sure you put that on that page, lol |
| 10:52.52 | Depherios | I actually run Khaos though >_< |
| 10:52.52 | Industrial | timestamp, scrolling, arrow movement throught the chat without alt |
| 10:53.02 | Depherios | NOO I LOVE MY ALT |
| 10:53.04 | Industrial | thats it, no config |
| 10:53.05 | Industrial | :P |
| 10:53.06 | Depherios | XD |
| 10:53.13 | Industrial | gunna replace alot of things |
| 10:53.14 | Industrial | in time... |
| 10:53.43 | Industrial | for example i have this idea |
| 10:53.48 | Industrial | i use OneBag for my bags |
| 10:53.55 | Industrial | what if you wouldnt need a key for your bag |
| 10:54.06 | Industrial | and it resided along the side of your screen |
| 10:54.11 | Industrial | with a little mouseover or click tab |
| 10:54.14 | Industrial | and it pops out |
| 10:54.17 | Industrial | ;) |
| 10:54.22 | Depherios | XD |
| 10:54.27 | Depherios | I had a bunch of stuff set up that way |
| 10:54.36 | Depherios | but I kept making it show on accident and got pissed and stopped |
| 10:54.41 | Industrial | hehe |
| 10:54.44 | Industrial | it takes time |
| 10:54.44 | Industrial | .. |
| 10:54.48 | Depherios | You know what discord unit frames is true? |
| 10:54.54 | Depherios | err yeah? |
| 10:54.55 | Industrial | ? |
| 10:55.24 | Industrial | also going to maky my own unit frames some time |
| 10:55.24 | Depherios | it makes WoW load about 20 times slower, but it's worth it |
| 10:55.28 | Depherios | http://www.discordmods.com/DiscordUnitFrames/ |
| 10:55.32 | Industrial | isnt tbh |
| 10:55.32 | Industrial | :P |
| 10:55.50 | Depherios | once I finally decide on a look, I'll probably make my own |
| 10:55.55 | Industrial | Industrial | 12 HUM WLK F1 {hpbar} {manabar} |
| 10:55.58 | Depherios | but I keep changing my mind |
| 10:56.01 | Industrial | :) |
| 10:56.16 | Depherios | so DUF is great... change my mind, I can change my whole look in 10 minutes |
| 10:56.25 | Depherios | but my current setup is only HALF nice |
| 10:56.33 | Depherios | I have every buff set to show on a keypress, lol |
| 10:56.35 | Industrial | i hate how wow does the scaling thing |
| 10:56.43 | Industrial | in dif, when you bump some frame up/down |
| 10:56.54 | Industrial | its border becomes 2px 1ppx 2px 1px 2px etc |
| 10:56.56 | Industrial | anoying |
| 10:57.05 | Industrial | duf* |
| 10:57.13 | Depherios | lol yeah |
| 10:57.21 | Industrial | sorry for the typos, i want to tye faster then i can |
| 10:57.34 | Depherios | I have my own art on them... whenever I end up with a style I like for awhile |
| 10:57.37 | Depherios | yeah, I'm the same way, lol |
| 11:00.30 | Depherios | my interface is so screwy right now |
| 11:01.09 | Depherios | I need to find a better way to do "oh shit" buttons |
| 11:02.03 | Industrial | set them to the frame "cursor" |
| 11:02.08 | Industrial | ;) |
| 11:02.09 | Depherios | yeah |
| 11:02.17 | Depherios | but the thing is, they have to show constantly |
| 11:02.18 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:02.22 | Industrial | lol |
| 11:02.24 | Depherios | habit from the belt on diablo |
| 11:02.31 | Depherios | when I FREAK I start looking for buttons |
| 11:02.33 | Depherios | to click XD |
| 11:02.38 | Depherios | even though I never click anything |
| 11:02.39 | Industrial | lol |
| 11:02.42 | Depherios | when I freak out, I want to click |
| 11:02.52 | Industrial | AHH |
| 11:02.54 | Industrial | POT POT POT |
| 11:02.56 | Industrial | lol |
| 11:02.56 | Industrial | :p |
| 11:03.25 | Depherios | so I have six+ buttons showing with trinket, pots, bandages and other attrition 3 of which have hotkeys |
| 11:06.28 | Industrial | http://www.syncmag.com/article2/0,1895,1887761,00.asp |
| 11:06.35 | Industrial | ---^ !!!111eleventy-one |
| 11:07.01 | kremonte | wow Industrial. wow =/ |
| 11:07.23 | Depherios | ROFL |
| 11:08.14 | *** join/#wowi-lounge AnduinLothar (n=KarlKFI@ip70-181-69-252.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 11:08.26 | Depherios | stupid ohshit buttons... WHERE DO I PUT YOU |
| 11:09.04 | kremonte | middle of your screen works :p |
| 11:09.09 | Depherios | I finally realized that since my buttons don't show up until I press a shift key... they don't need to be at the bottom of the screen... it only took 3 months |
| 11:09.17 | kremonte | rofl |
| 11:09.23 | Depherios | 3 days ago |
| 11:09.47 | Depherios | they WERE popping up on top of my minimap, which is..... better than them having their OWN space (they did pop up on top of my buffs) |
| 11:09.49 | Depherios | but yeah |
| 11:09.56 | Depherios | so now they pop up in the middle |
| 11:10.00 | Depherios | the thing is I like my screen CLEAR |
| 11:10.09 | Depherios | hence why EVERYTHING is at the bottom |
| 11:10.16 | Depherios | my game looked like an RTS for months XD |
| 11:10.49 | Depherios | although for awhile, I put the D2 health and mana bars into WoW... that was fun for about a week and a half |
| 11:12.19 | Depherios | http://home.comcast.net/~deph/d2screen.jpg <-- woo! |
| 11:12.40 | kremonte | i LOVE my screen clear but |
| 11:12.45 | kremonte | i need so many buttons |
| 11:12.50 | Depherios | that's why I love the shift keys |
| 11:13.03 | kremonte | i'm the kinda guy that when i clean something, i make it completely blank |
| 11:13.09 | kremonte | but then it's a shithole within 5mins |
| 11:13.11 | Depherios | the same 12 keys, and the same on screen 12 buttons do all my commands... I have five bars, but they're just one 3x4 section of buttons |
| 11:13.14 | Depherios | ditto XD |
| 11:13.28 | Depherios | I just cleaned off my desk, it's already covered in crap |
| 11:13.29 | kremonte | like, ill make my screen have 10 buttons total visible |
| 11:13.34 | kremonte | same haha |
| 11:13.40 | kremonte | the next day i;ll have 55 buttons |
| 11:13.42 | Depherios | Yeah |
| 11:13.53 | AnduinLothar | only ur desk? |
| 11:13.54 | Depherios | I just made my buff frames hide until I press a key and hold it down |
| 11:14.00 | AnduinLothar | my who apt is covered in crap.. |
| 11:14.01 | Depherios | yeah, the rest of my room is knee deep with crap |
| 11:14.06 | Depherios | I didn't clean that |
| 11:14.16 | Depherios | I got a new monitor though |
| 11:14.24 | AnduinLothar | which one? |
| 11:14.55 | Depherios | nice 17 inch Sony flatpanel HS75P |
| 11:15.04 | AnduinLothar | koolness |
| 11:15.19 | kremonte | Depherios, i think thats the same exact monitor as the main one i use |
| 11:15.19 | Depherios | it's so bright, I actually have to flinch at the sun in game, lol |
| 11:15.25 | AnduinLothar | i got myself a new one too but i'll let u enjoy urs |
| 11:15.26 | kremonte | yay for crappy CRT on the side for irc |
| 11:15.33 | Depherios | DITTO |
| 11:15.36 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:15.37 | Depherios | well no |
| 11:15.52 | Depherios | I have my old CRT plugged into my laptop IT has two monitors |
| 11:15.56 | Depherios | WoW has dedicated computer |
| 11:15.56 | AnduinLothar | ya, got my 19" crt running irc at 800x600 |
| 11:16.10 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:16.20 | kremonte | lol |
| 11:16.21 | Depherios | I'm so happy to hear I'm not the only person with more than one monitor on his desk |
| 11:16.25 | kremonte | both of mine are in 1280x1024 |
| 11:16.28 | Depherios | ROFL |
| 11:16.34 | Depherios | this is fantastic, I love this place |
| 11:16.35 | AnduinLothar | i got 3 atm |
| 11:16.37 | kremonte | lol it was great last xmas when i got my monitor |
| 11:16.50 | Depherios | the laptop the monitor plugged into that, my monitor and TV |
| 11:16.51 | kremonte | i brought it to my room and in 5mins had it set up with dual monitors |
| 11:16.55 | kremonte | and my family was so confused |
| 11:17.01 | Depherios | I had 3 at once |
| 11:17.03 | kremonte | i cant stand using TV out |
| 11:17.03 | Depherios | on one computer |
| 11:17.08 | Depherios | playing Quake 3 |
| 11:17.12 | AnduinLothar | 5min? i just plugged mine in.. |
| 11:17.23 | kremonte | had to install drivers =/ |
| 11:17.28 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 11:17.29 | Depherios | I'm SOOOO happy to hear other people do this crap |
| 11:17.33 | Depherios | and sad |
| 11:17.35 | Depherios | as yeah |
| 11:17.39 | Depherios | but lol |
| 11:18.06 | kremonte | ugh i really wanna do my UI |
| 11:18.10 | kremonte | but i can never get it right :( |
| 11:18.16 | Depherios | ditto |
| 11:18.24 | kremonte | all i have are perl unitframes and sct |
| 11:18.24 | Depherios | I spend more time on my UI than I do playing |
| 11:18.27 | Depherios | makes my GF so mad |
| 11:18.28 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:18.31 | kremonte | lol |
| 11:18.34 | Depherios | I have SO MANY ADDONS right now |
| 11:18.39 | Depherios | always turning them on and off |
| 11:18.40 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:18.41 | kremonte | i'm getting endgameitus already |
| 11:18.44 | AnduinLothar | 110 atm here |
| 11:18.52 | kremonte | in ffxi i would run up and down jeuno |
| 11:18.57 | kremonte | now i run circles around IF |
| 11:19.00 | Depherios | my highest level is only *looks* 33 |
| 11:19.01 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:19.18 | Depherios | I've been level 33 for... |
| 11:19.31 | kremonte | i dont get why i still play MMOs |
| 11:19.34 | Depherios | 1 day 1 hour... that's not bad... but I've played this character 15 days |
| 11:19.45 | Depherios | one of my characters was level 14 for over a week |
| 11:20.08 | AnduinLothar | my main has 51 days 19 hours on him |
| 11:20.28 | AnduinLothar | my test char has 20 and she's lvl 10 |
| 11:20.31 | kremonte | i farm to get money to buy gear to run mc to farm mc to get gear to run bwl to farm bwl to get gear to show off to people outside ironforge so i can lose duels and go back to mc to get gear to run bwl to get gear to show off to people in IF |
| 11:20.52 | AnduinLothar | i code addons |
| 11:20.57 | AnduinLothar | and play wow on the side |
| 11:21.12 | kremonte | i'm learning to code addons. and cry because i can never make my ui look pretty /cry |
| 11:21.24 | Industrial | i spend 80% on my ui |
| 11:21.26 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:21.30 | Industrial | i have 5 lvl 15 chars |
| 11:21.33 | Industrial | gg |
| 11:21.33 | Industrial | ;x |
| 11:21.34 | Depherios | I'm learning code |
| 11:21.36 | Depherios | I LOVE LUA |
| 11:21.42 | kremonte | i've made one mod that isn't really a "mod |
| 11:21.44 | kremonte | :( |
| 11:21.46 | Depherios | I tried Javascript, I tried basic scripting languages of all sorts |
| 11:21.52 | Depherios | even did mirc scripting |
| 11:21.56 | Depherios | they all baffled me at some point |
| 11:22.02 | Depherios | ... but LUA makes more sense to me |
| 11:22.47 | kremonte | meh. i learned php, now lua is just a matter of making sense of tables as to arrays |
| 11:22.49 | Depherios | so, I'm seeing more progres, lol |
| 11:23.06 | kremonte | c++ is out of my league |
| 11:23.09 | Depherios | I haven't gotten that far, I learned PHP... then forgot it two weeks later... wanted to cry |
| 11:23.11 | Depherios | ditto |
| 11:23.40 | kremonte | byte 64 is blablabla i don't care i just want things to look pretty >< |
| 11:23.48 | Depherios | the biggest things I've ever done code-wise are make people think webpages were flash, when they weren't |
| 11:23.55 | Depherios | I don't want things to be pretty |
| 11:24.02 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/files/beginning-of-a-ubrs-id931/ |
| 11:24.03 | Depherios | I want them to be minimalistic, and exactly how I want them |
| 11:24.19 | Depherios | ... I'm running something of yours AL... |
| 11:24.38 | AnduinLothar | oh? |
| 11:24.40 | Depherios | *goes to his favorites list on curse to figure out which* |
| 11:24.48 | Depherios | oh wait... no name shown there... |
| 11:25.22 | AnduinLothar | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?authorid=552 http://www.wowwiki.com/User:KarlKFI |
| 11:26.06 | Depherios | ahh! I'm running a few XD |
| 11:26.16 | kremonte | are people always so discouraging :( |
| 11:26.22 | Depherios | ?? |
| 11:26.25 | kremonte | "hmm i want a new mount. maybe a winterspring tiger" |
| 11:26.45 | kremonte | "its worthless!" "baron mount?" "too much work!" "exalted with av?" "its worthless!" |
| 11:26.52 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:27.07 | Depherios | I tend to go for different goals than other people XD |
| 11:27.16 | AnduinLothar | On my desk: http://www.lowendmac.com/imacs/450.shtml + http://www.viewsonic.com/support/desktopdisplays/crtmonitors/aseries/a90fplus/ + http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/7200903/wo/Fy6VOoRNGkvH2TsTeWdPYEdZ55A/0.SLID?mco=91A92F05&nclm=AppleDisplays (20") |
| 11:27.20 | kremonte | meh, i have nothing to go for |
| 11:27.28 | kremonte | felheart?yay i have something 50% of all level 60 warlocks have |
| 11:27.47 | Depherios | lol yeah |
| 11:28.21 | Depherios | I'm so bad though, in games like WoW I usually have a second set of gear for looks... I even did it in D2, lol |
| 11:28.32 | kremonte | i do too, i have a pirate suit |
| 11:28.40 | kremonte | cause i got first mate hat in STV |
| 11:28.43 | Depherios | XD |
| 11:28.55 | kremonte | + black swashbuckler's shirt + tuxedo pants |
| 11:29.01 | kremonte | + any red sash |
| 11:29.12 | Depherios | I used to be a mac guy Anduin, then they made the iMac and the second gen G3s sucked, and I wanted to play Diablo and Starcraft and they still weren't out on Mac... and yeah... |
| 11:29.37 | kremonte | why am i still a windows guy |
| 11:29.38 | kremonte | :* |
| 11:29.44 | Depherios | now I don't even have a powermac..... I want to play Marathon D: |
| 11:29.58 | AnduinLothar | the imac was free when i my parents upgraded. i use it for server and irc |
| 11:30.31 | Depherios | oh, btw, BetterItemCount, ChatScroll, FriendsFacts, MinimapZoom, MobileFrames |
| 11:30.52 | Depherios | Sea, earth, IEF... lol |
| 11:30.56 | AnduinLothar | glad to hear it |
| 11:31.00 | Depherios | ... I think everybody has IEF |
| 11:31.09 | Depherios | everybody SHOULD have IEF... blizz should just put it in WoW |
| 11:31.13 | AnduinLothar | all the smart people anyway |
| 11:31.36 | AnduinLothar | test server breaks it, i need to fix that.. |
| 11:31.40 | Depherios | I want to try ArcanePartyBars... but my interface is bogging me down as it is... |
| 11:32.23 | Stylpe | mesa back |
| 11:32.28 | Depherios | wb |
| 11:32.49 | kremonte | wb |
| 11:32.58 | kremonte | hmm i think i know what i'll do |
| 11:33.00 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Trilian (n=Miranda@dyndsl-085-016-004-078.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 11:33.02 | AnduinLothar | jar jar, is that u? |
| 11:33.11 | kremonte | i'll level a rogue to 60 using only worn daggers |
| 11:33.23 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:33.28 | kremonte | and no equips |
| 11:33.30 | Depherios | WoW too easy for you? |
| 11:33.33 | kremonte | just the level 1 stuff |
| 11:33.34 | kremonte | yep |
| 11:33.43 | kremonte | i dont see how an MMO can be "hard" tbh =/ |
| 11:33.50 | AnduinLothar | i got a warlock to 30 naked, just using a dagger |
| 11:33.54 | Depherios | yeah... my friends all want to make it even easier |
| 11:34.02 | Depherios | I tend to do quests I can barely GET |
| 11:34.09 | Depherios | they're doing green quests |
| 11:34.09 | kremonte | you know what would be awesome |
| 11:34.12 | kremonte | duels using only rank 1 spells |
| 11:34.19 | Depherios | I wish you could choose to get quests at an earlier level |
| 11:34.22 | AnduinLothar | pally wins |
| 11:34.24 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:34.45 | Depherios | what about talents? XD |
| 11:34.50 | AnduinLothar | oh btw, there's finally a reason to use higher rank command seal now |
| 11:34.57 | kremonte | talents meh |
| 11:34.59 | Depherios | respec to 0 to do it? |
| 11:35.00 | kremonte | still rank 1 spells |
| 11:35.04 | AnduinLothar | lvl 5 can judge crit for 1k |
| 11:35.16 | kremonte | wow |
| 11:35.20 | AnduinLothar | plus debuff for damage on stun |
| 11:36.03 | AnduinLothar | + more if u have spell damage items |
| 11:36.12 | Depherios | rank 1 spells would be nice in a way, lol... it'd take forever to die, but you'd regen mana faster than you'd really use it XD |
| 11:36.23 | AnduinLothar | + more if u have holy + aura + more with holy tallent |
| 11:36.43 | Depherios | well... I would, and I'm at level 33 (priest though, with way too much spirit gear :P) |
| 11:37.03 | AnduinLothar | i bet fully specced and itemed for command i could get it to crit 2k |
| 11:37.16 | Depherios | they really need to make the estimated wait time base it on something other than how long it took the last game to start |
| 11:37.33 | Depherios | been in queue now for 3 hours 13 minutes... estimated wait time... less than one minute |
| 11:38.15 | Depherios | any of you guys know if there's a Kalented update? |
| 11:38.38 | AnduinLothar | u know where to find it |
| 11:39.20 | Depherios | well it hasn't popped up on my updated favs on Curse... |
| 11:39.31 | kremonte | bahahaha |
| 11:39.34 | Depherios | and I dont' remember what the last version I had was |
| 11:39.36 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:39.41 | kremonte | i got to an unmade part of the world again |
| 11:39.54 | Depherios | I haven't cared recently, because I haven't been leveling lol |
| 11:50.20 | Depherios | Anybody know of an addon that'll display the player's class in raid chat? -- I just suddenly remembered seeing it in some WoW video a friend showed me, and hunting for it, and now here's people who might know |
| 11:50.45 | Stylpe | Sorry, no |
| 11:51.02 | AnduinLothar | mmm, was thinking of setting up WhoTip for memory and raid/Party info |
| 11:51.08 | AnduinLothar | but not quite the same |
| 11:51.10 | Depherios | Yeah it was weird XD I looked all over for it.. .and I don't know how to hook the chat stuff yet... need to |
| 11:51.35 | AnduinLothar | it would be an ChatFrame_OnEvent hook |
| 11:51.50 | Depherios | lol, it takes me awhile still at this point, to do ANYTHING |
| 11:52.02 | Depherios | I wouldn't usually want it on, but in BGs and in random PvP raids... I have a terrible memory |
| 11:52.12 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 11:52.25 | Depherios | wait a minute... cleanchat can color nicks by class I think... |
| 11:52.27 | AnduinLothar | i just have all thei rct frames visible |
| 11:52.42 | Depherios | WOO |
| 11:52.51 | Depherios | yeah, ditto, but cross checking takes time |
| 11:53.01 | Depherios | I run clean chat anyway, I'd forgotten about it |
| 11:53.29 | Depherios | (the colored nicks help me out immensely, I'll have highlights set up in mIRC in a few days for here, lol) |
| 11:53.42 | Depherios | I've already gotten who was saying what mixed up a few times |
| 11:53.55 | AnduinLothar | telltrack |
| 11:54.05 | Depherios | for raid chat? |
| 11:54.12 | AnduinLothar | nah, just whispers |
| 11:54.29 | AnduinLothar | i go by namelength in chat mostly |
| 11:54.36 | Depherios | yeah, whispers I don't have problems with since I have to reply, and cycling with tabs reminds me what's going on |
| 11:54.37 | Depherios | ditto |
| 11:54.48 | Depherios | I had a problem for awhile though |
| 11:55.11 | Depherios | because my Priest is named Dvorak, and some guy was named Dorvak |
| 11:55.33 | Industrial | Depherios: http://pastebin.com/437002 |
| 11:55.39 | Depherios | and even cleanchat colors them the same, since... I forget the word because it's 4am... but yeah, alphanumerics to get the colors |
| 11:55.51 | Industrial | done ;) |
| 11:55.55 | AnduinLothar | hash |
| 11:56.04 | Depherios | yes! that! |
| 11:56.21 | Industrial | that will be my whole site |
| 11:56.25 | Depherios | lynx lol |
| 11:56.26 | AnduinLothar | hashes suck unless ur hashing into some other structure |
| 11:56.32 | Industrial | lynx, links and elinks |
| 11:56.33 | Industrial | :) |
| 11:56.52 | Depherios | I make my webpages scale down just fine, even to using link tags |
| 11:56.53 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: care to copy that XHTML put it in a .html document and viewing it with some mac browsers? |
| 11:57.00 | Industrial | oso i can enlist them as working? |
| 11:57.54 | Industrial | had to remove the XML line |
| 11:57.57 | Industrial | cause IE sucks |
| 11:57.59 | Industrial | :P |
| 11:58.08 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:58.52 | Industrial | hm, need to fix some stuff |
| 11:58.55 | Industrial | not valid |
| 11:58.56 | AnduinLothar | what do u want me to check on it? |
| 11:58.56 | Industrial | :> |
| 11:59.07 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: is it accesible, readable? |
| 11:59.18 | AnduinLothar | it's a web page.. |
| 11:59.25 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: thus my concern |
| 11:59.34 | AnduinLothar | top two links dont work |
| 11:59.42 | Industrial | yes, its just one document |
| 11:59.53 | Industrial | but does it look right? |
| 11:59.57 | AnduinLothar | then yes, it looks like it works |
| 12:00.01 | Industrial | ok, cool |
| 12:00.05 | Industrial | what browser(s)? |
| 12:00.19 | AnduinLothar | it' sjust text in a centered box |
| 12:00.26 | Industrial | yep |
| 12:00.37 | AnduinLothar | could do that with tables if u were old school |
| 12:00.39 | Industrial | with a CC license *dance* |
| 12:00.48 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: *twitch* |
| 12:00.49 | AnduinLothar | camino |
| 12:00.55 | Industrial | k |
| 12:01.44 | Depherios | eww |
| 12:01.44 | Depherios | tables |
| 12:01.44 | Depherios | ewwww |
| 12:01.44 | Depherios | ewwwwww |
| 12:01.44 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:01.45 | AnduinLothar | i haven't done any web page stuff since css was just becoming usable |
| 12:01.45 | Depherios | tables and frames = last refuge of the incompetant |
| 12:01.45 | AnduinLothar | my expertise was mostly python and javascript |
| 12:02.03 | AnduinLothar | and my web site is huge and takes forever to load, thus |
| 12:02.11 | Depherios | god... in like... the 60,000 files... |
| 12:02.15 | Depherios | I can't find my old webpage |
| 12:02.16 | Depherios | ..... |
| 12:02.19 | Depherios | this is so sad |
| 12:02.26 | Industrial | oops forgot an encoding |
| 12:02.54 | Depherios | well... my old FRONT page... I lost most of the rest |
| 12:03.26 | AnduinLothar | last thing i designed, 3 yrs ago |
| 12:03.29 | AnduinLothar | http://karlsblog.no-ip.com |
| 12:04.11 | Depherios | I need to get a no-ip account again |
| 12:04.32 | AnduinLothar | they dont do .com anymore unless u pay, i got in before that happened and grabbed a few |
| 12:07.23 | Depherios | I know lol... my account should still be there |
| 12:08.56 | Depherios | WOO I found my 404 |
| 12:08.57 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:15.24 | Depherios | okay wtf XD why does ipconfig open and then close itself automatically? |
| 12:15.31 | Depherios | it's hard for me to see this crap when the window won't stay open |
| 12:15.56 | Depherios | is windows trying to play some sort of joke on me? lol... skip it |
| 12:16.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cide (n=Cide@81-226-233-223-no60.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 12:16.44 | Depherios | there we go |
| 12:16.57 | AnduinLothar | just run it in the prompt, not form 'run' |
| 12:17.02 | AnduinLothar | wb cide |
| 12:17.07 | Cide | hey |
| 12:17.15 | Depherios | never used to close from Run.... must've done something, or had something or.... something |
| 12:17.39 | AnduinLothar | test server's up if u missed th enews |
| 12:20.17 | Depherios | how... was I doing that... Oh well *shrugs* maybe I was using command first, but I just did it the other day... |
| 12:20.25 | Depherios | I wish I didn't have the memory of a goldfish |
| 12:20.34 | Depherios | it makes all this crap so much harder |
| 12:20.50 | AnduinLothar | why are u even going into the config? |
| 12:20.58 | Depherios | when I reorganized my desk |
| 12:21.08 | Depherios | I unplugged everything from my router and plugged it all in |
| 12:21.25 | Depherios | too lazy to change all that, so I'm just changing the filters in the router now XD |
| 12:22.03 | AnduinLothar | gg |
| 12:23.40 | Depherios | OMG opened IE on new monitor... about:blank... killing retinas |
| 12:23.59 | AnduinLothar | turn down the brightness at night silly |
| 12:24.11 | AnduinLothar | or tunr on some lights |
| 12:26.33 | Depherios | my webpage won't even work in the new IE anymore |
| 12:26.39 | Depherios | it's broken to everything T-T |
| 12:26.51 | AnduinLothar | ie suxors |
| 12:26.56 | Depherios | yeah I know |
| 12:26.59 | Depherios | even back then I didn't use it |
| 12:27.00 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:27.08 | Depherios | but I made my pages for it, since that's all ANYBODY used back then |
| 12:27.32 | Depherios | even I had to use it a lot, since like... 1 in 4 pages wouldn't display right in Mozilla |
| 12:28.12 | Depherios | oh nevermind, this is an old WORKING version... apparently not my upload folder |
| 12:28.14 | Depherios | here it is |
| 12:28.15 | Depherios | E:\Graphics\Web\RGB\try2\index.shtml |
| 12:28.18 | Depherios | whoop |
| 12:28.21 | Depherios | THAT ISN'T OFF THE SERVER |
| 12:29.35 | Depherios | http://67.189.88.161/Web/RGB/try2/ |
| 12:29.51 | Depherios | nope, broken in IE as well actually |
| 12:29.59 | Depherios | it won't run the stuff off the 'net, only locally... |
| 12:30.29 | Depherios | oh nevermind |
| 12:30.38 | Depherios | http://67.189.88.161/Web/RGB/try2/index.shtml |
| 12:30.42 | Depherios | yes, I have MORE THAN ONE INDEX in there |
| 12:31.07 | Depherios | I think... I just got sick of it, and tossed a whole bunch of my work in progress stuff... into one folder |
| 12:31.57 | Depherios | that is so broken in FF |
| 12:31.58 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:32.46 | Depherios | crap... I should have been in bed 3 hours ago... that's what happens when you say One more BG before bed... in queue 4 hours 8 minutes |
| 12:34.29 | Depherios | ouch, no wonder I'm lagging poor laptop 37 tabs open in Firefox |
| 12:37.20 | Depherios | btw, that page is from before I went all strict XHTML nuts, and still used tables for some positioning, lol (although not on that page) |
| 12:37.41 | AnduinLothar | mmhmm |
| 12:38.02 | Depherios | isn't it sad? -- that's too much time on your hands right there |
| 12:38.24 | Depherios | nothing dynamically moves on that though, but it's all I can find that's in any state near finished, lol |
| 12:39.22 | Depherios | except for REALLY old things |
| 12:39.47 | Depherios | oh... and my 404 |
| 12:40.22 | Depherios | http://67.189.88.161/Web/errors/404.html <-- this, was the last thing I ever did web design-wise lol |
| 12:40.33 | Depherios | again, totally broken in firefox |
| 12:40.36 | Depherios | buah |
| 12:43.52 | Depherios | I've never finished a project in my life... I hate it when this fact suddenly dawns on me |
| 12:44.12 | Depherios | Hey Anduin, what's it like to finish something? |
| 12:45.07 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 12:45.21 | Depherios | I wish I was kidding |
| 12:45.43 | Depherios | well... I finished a couple starcraft use maps settings maps, but I never finished any of my good ones, lol |
| 12:45.45 | AnduinLothar | feels good. I finish most of my stuff, i just get distracted and start 3 or 4 other things before I go back and finish the 1st |
| 12:45.51 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:45.54 | Depherios | I never finish anything |
| 12:46.11 | AnduinLothar | usually either takes me 2 days of a month to make an addon |
| 12:46.14 | AnduinLothar | or* |
| 12:46.34 | Depherios | I finished cleaning my room |
| 12:46.35 | Depherios | .... once |
| 12:46.37 | Depherios | it was perfect |
| 12:46.56 | Depherios | for like 4 hours... until I realized I didn't remember where I put something when I cleaned and had to tear it up to find it lol |
| 12:46.59 | AnduinLothar | nothing i finish is perfect |
| 12:47.16 | Depherios | I don't even unperfectly finish anything XD |
| 12:47.29 | Depherios | my MP3s are half organized |
| 12:47.34 | AnduinLothar | after i publish i always see somehting i forget and have to fix it in the 1st 10 min |
| 12:47.47 | Depherios | every video game I play, it seems like I stop right before the last boss |
| 12:47.50 | Depherios | especially with RPGs |
| 12:48.06 | AnduinLothar | i've never beated mc or been to bwl |
| 12:48.14 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:48.38 | AnduinLothar | but i rape through 5mans liek a pro |
| 12:48.44 | Depherios | I've had wow for like... 7 months, and my highest level character is 33, and yet it's my primary source of entertainment |
| 12:49.00 | Depherios | and I don't do much else XD |
| 12:49.20 | Depherios | I started off on PvE though... as soon as I made a char to PvP I made it to 33 lol |
| 12:49.27 | Depherios | -to +on |
| 12:49.42 | Depherios | I was on PvE though, beause I kept STOPPING to work on my interface lol |
| 12:50.00 | Depherios | not such a good thing on PvP |
| 12:51.15 | zeeg | what do you guys think: http://www.davidcramer.net/gallery.php?do=image&id=8 |
| 12:51.53 | Industrial | cut off the overlappings |
| 12:51.59 | Depherios | nice subtle use of gradients need to fix the margins though |
| 12:52.02 | zeeg | hrm |
| 12:52.04 | AnduinLothar | all i see is a border and banner |
| 12:52.08 | Depherios | I like the top unerhang |
| 12:52.13 | Depherios | I'm assuming we're previewing a layout XD |
| 12:52.18 | Depherios | is that all one image? |
| 12:52.20 | zeeg | well the idea for the "overlapping" is the page is centered, fixed width at like 1000px; |
| 12:52.26 | zeeg | and the overlapping is 100% |
| 12:52.28 | zeeg | ya thats just an image |
| 12:52.31 | AnduinLothar | i hate fixed width |
| 12:52.37 | Depherios | yeah |
| 12:52.45 | Depherios | use positioning so it's not fixed width |
| 12:52.48 | Depherios | wouldn't be hard |
| 12:52.53 | zeeg | it looks too.. boring w/o the overlappings |
| 12:53.03 | Industrial | can anyone helo me with a non tripod like host for 10 html files max? |
| 12:53.03 | zeeg | i *want* it fixed width, trust me |
| 12:53.04 | AnduinLothar | wrong, it makes programming 10x harder to have dynamic sizing |
| 12:53.05 | Industrial | help* |
| 12:53.11 | zeeg | yes, it does :) |
| 12:53.13 | Industrial | probably some zip/rar files and some images too |
| 12:53.16 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:53.20 | AnduinLothar | which is why it's better |
| 12:53.23 | zeeg | but the overalpping gives it a "unique" design |
| 12:53.27 | Depherios | php was all the more complex my scripting got |
| 12:53.30 | zeeg | AnduinLothar, but in some cases, not needed, and this case it wouldnt be :p |
| 12:53.37 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
| 12:54.01 | Industrial | anyone? :< |
| 12:54.07 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 12:54.18 | Industrial | read up, i typed stuff |
| 12:54.24 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:54.38 | Depherios | my domain = gone ... I'm using my comcast webspace right now, lol |
| 12:55.02 | Industrial | the whole content will be less then 1MB |
| 12:55.06 | Industrial | anyone? :< |
| 12:55.13 | Industrial | well.. 1mb... make that 10 |
| 12:55.32 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:55.34 | Industrial | room for expansion |
| 12:55.35 | Industrial | :d |
| 12:57.15 | Industrial | no-one? :< |
| 12:57.20 | Industrial | ill make a post then |
| 12:57.39 | Depherios | just run a webserver and no-ip it lol |
| 12:57.45 | Depherios | for that little content |
| 12:57.48 | AnduinLothar | amen |
| 12:58.13 | Depherios | get what you're paying for when it comes to broadband |
| 12:59.01 | Depherios | first thing I did when I got broadband was start running a little server box... problem is... all my DATA is still on THE computer, so that didn't work out so well |
| 12:59.34 | Depherios | only thing it's any good for recently, is if I need to do something using teamspeak |
| 12:59.42 | Depherios | ... and I can just use the laptop for that *sigh* |
| 12:59.56 | Depherios | I need to just put linux onto it to play with |
| 13:00.49 | AnduinLothar | whats wrong with data on the comp? |
| 13:01.12 | Depherios | well... the biggest thing I use the server for is linking to just... the STUFF on my computer |
| 13:01.16 | Depherios | lol |
| 13:01.21 | AnduinLothar | so.. |
| 13:01.31 | Depherios | my graphics folder is so large if I run a generalized find on it I crash explorer |
| 13:02.14 | Depherios | I can pull all that over the network, but THE computer actually gets turned off suspended because it makes a ton of noise... without that, the server has well... uh... an empty folder |
| 13:02.26 | Depherios | I might as well just host it on THE computer |
| 13:03.39 | Depherios | I need to organize all this stuff I have... I have nearly 10 years of files just laying around |
| 13:15.37 | AnduinLothar | omg the updated atlas minimouse frame pisses me off |
| 13:15.59 | AnduinLothar | he has an embedded frame handle the clicks and a parent frame always visible.. |
| 13:16.11 | AnduinLothar | makes me want to stab him |
| 13:18.22 | Depherios | .....WTF |
| 13:18.32 | Depherios | CTA does that too doesn't it? |
| 13:18.33 | AnduinLothar | i'm gonna fuxor it with a SetAllPoints |
| 13:18.42 | AnduinLothar | it's dumbest thing ever |
| 13:18.55 | AnduinLothar | if u want an event frame jsut make an invisible one with size 0 |
| 13:19.13 | Depherios | I hide all that crap anyway, slash commands are my friend |
| 13:19.23 | AnduinLothar | cide, u around? |
| 13:19.27 | Depherios | but yeah... that's just annoying |
| 13:19.51 | Cide | yep |
| 13:20.02 | Industrial | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10238#10238 |
| 13:20.12 | AnduinLothar | ya, I got an invisible CT_RASetsFrame obscuring the right side of my minimap invibibly |
| 13:20.21 | AnduinLothar | invisibly |
| 13:20.32 | Depherios | yeah, THAT'S what it was |
| 13:20.45 | AnduinLothar | it's busting my balls |
| 13:20.47 | Depherios | that went away fast |
| 13:21.19 | Cide | um |
| 13:21.22 | Cide | that's the minimap button |
| 13:21.32 | AnduinLothar | ya, no. the minimap button is moved |
| 13:21.34 | Depherios | yeah |
| 13:21.39 | Depherios | lol, or in my case GONE COMPLETELY |
| 13:21.44 | Industrial | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=653 |
| 13:21.52 | Industrial | please submit anything yo might no |
| 13:22.00 | AnduinLothar | button says CT_RASets_Button |
| 13:22.08 | Industrial | but no MyAddonsUIFrameWithContentDodgyButtonText |
| 13:22.09 | Industrial | please |
| 13:22.10 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:22.10 | AnduinLothar | they are not attached |
| 13:22.17 | Cide | okay |
| 13:22.31 | zeeg | O.o |
| 13:22.34 | zeeg | wtb Cide |
| 13:22.38 | AnduinLothar | and personally i prefer a single minimap button frame if ur gonna use one |
| 13:23.02 | AnduinLothar | makes life simpler to move it myself |
| 13:23.04 | Depherios | yussyussyuss |
| 13:23.13 | zeeg | hey, you'd be goood for comments, give me your 2 cents on our new UI section layout/whatnot: http://www.wowguru.com/ui-new/files/atlas-id42/ |
| 13:23.13 | Depherios | or hide them |
| 13:23.57 | AnduinLothar | good, u fixed the layout issue |
| 13:24.08 | Cide | think I fixed it AnduinLothar |
| 13:24.30 | AnduinLothar | at home or ina release i dont have? |
| 13:24.38 | Cide | the latter |
| 13:24.43 | AnduinLothar | k |
| 13:25.33 | AnduinLothar | well, while ur at it it'd be nice to have you set a MobileMinimapButtons 1 line insert. |
| 13:25.43 | Cide | what for? |
| 13:25.56 | AnduinLothar | so i can drag it w/o a control panel |
| 13:26.14 | Cide | there is already a slider :P |
| 13:26.43 | Depherios | what if you're like me, and you've moved your minimap inside the minimapcluster? |
| 13:26.46 | AnduinLothar | u obviously haven't tried it |
| 13:26.54 | Cide | no, I haven't |
| 13:27.06 | Industrial | zeeg: yatlas ftw |
| 13:27.12 | AnduinLothar | if (MobileMinimapButtons_MakeMobile) then MobileMinimapButtons_MakeMobile("CT_RASetsFrame","CT Raid Assist Button"); end |
| 13:27.13 | Industrial | although its not really comparable yet |
| 13:27.14 | Cide | Depherios: ctra is hooked to the minimap and not the cluster |
| 13:27.30 | Depherios | WOO |
| 13:27.32 | Depherios | good XD |
| 13:27.36 | Cide | zeeg: looks good, I like the tab layout |
| 13:27.44 | AnduinLothar | onload if u want an opt dep, else onvarsloaded |
| 13:27.47 | Cide | only thing was that it loaded slow, but that might just as well be my slowass host |
| 13:28.01 | zeeg | ya we're getting hammered atm |
| 13:28.08 | Depherios | I hid that button though... I just use the tab |
| 13:28.10 | zeeg | we're like the only site that covers patch stuff right off the bat |
| 13:28.24 | AnduinLothar | if u wanna try cide: http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2340 |
| 13:29.18 | AnduinLothar | if u don't add it i'll jsut add it in, but i'd rather keep code in the addon it belongs too just outa principle |
| 13:30.26 | AnduinLothar | plus as you know i like standards. shift-drag and ahift-right-click for reset menu is pretty damn easy to find/remember |
| 13:31.24 | AnduinLothar | and ya. yatlas is nifty |
| 13:31.28 | Cide | libraries you mean |
| 13:31.40 | Depherios | am I the only person out there who does nothing but hide minimap buttons? XD |
| 13:31.55 | Cide | I only have 2 |
| 13:32.06 | Depherios | the few I can't "hide" I make my own titan panel stuff for, lol |
| 13:32.14 | AnduinLothar | w/e it's just one line. it's ur call |
| 13:33.19 | AnduinLothar | if u want you could incorporate the code urself, plety of other people have stolen it since i put it in MF in like april |
| 13:33.39 | Depherios | I should really seperate that out and make it it's own addon... tracking icon in titan panel right side... |
| 13:33.46 | AnduinLothar | so i just exported it to a mini addon to save them the time and MF conflicts |
| 13:36.06 | AnduinLothar | i can understand not wanting deps. i just dont get not having optionally enhanced features :/ |
| 13:36.38 | AnduinLothar | but i dont wanna get on your case, so i'll jsut shutup |
| 13:36.42 | Depherios | XD |
| 13:36.53 | Depherios | Just do what I do, shut up, and modify it yourself, lol |
| 13:37.05 | AnduinLothar | done |
| 13:37.17 | Depherios | I've harrassed so many titan panel devs to PLEASE put in the "Show colored text" option |
| 13:37.19 | Depherios | ... nobody listens |
| 13:37.33 | Depherios | I have to go in and add it, or more likely, just strip the color codes out/modify them |
| 13:37.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge zeeg (n=wguru@63.147.183.137) |
| 13:37.48 | Depherios | and thankfully adding the "Show icon" option is like... 3 lines |
| 13:38.08 | Depherios | but yeah... |
| 13:38.43 | zeeg | TURKEY DAY |
| 13:38.58 | Depherios | ugh, quit reminding me, if today is turkey day, tomorrow is black fiday |
| 13:39.11 | zeeg | black friday is one of those religious days, ya? |
| 13:39.38 | AnduinLothar | i have a feelign cide thinks i only talk to him to harass him into using my libs :/ |
| 13:39.50 | zeeg | i only talk to him to harass him into hosting on wowguru |
| 13:39.51 | zeeg | err i mean |
| 13:40.31 | Depherios | biggest shopping day of the year, most suicides in one day... and I work tomorrow... retail, at a video games store, where only 3 employees aren't holiday hires and know how to use the registers (including myself) and the 360 just came out, and nobody can get one... |
| 13:40.49 | zeeg | i wish i got paid today or something so i could go shopping tomorrow |
| 13:40.57 | AnduinLothar | heh, the frame is called: TheYatlasButton |
| 13:41.11 | zeeg | ive never gotten to go shopping "the day after" |
| 13:41.14 | Depherios | if I didn't work I wouldn't leave the house on black friday |
| 13:41.18 | zeeg | hey AnduinLothar |
| 13:41.27 | zeeg | is it possible to detect attacks made on players within raid/party |
| 13:41.30 | zeeg | say a boss does X to X player |
| 13:41.32 | zeeg | can i get that info |
| 13:41.43 | AnduinLothar | combat log maybe |
| 13:41.45 | Depherios | don't you have to parse that crap out of the combat log? |
| 13:42.17 | zeeg | k |
| 13:43.28 | AnduinLothar | CT_RASetsFrame:SetAllPoints(CT_RASets_Button); ftw |
| 13:43.55 | Depherios | lol |
| 13:44.04 | Depherios | I just got rid of them both |
| 13:44.26 | Depherios | I got rid of them ALLLLLL |
| 13:44.54 | AnduinLothar | some people liek /commads, some liek gui |
| 13:45.17 | Depherios | I know XD |
| 13:46.06 | Depherios | if I was going to keep them though, I'd just find the Function() for them all, and make my own titan pulldown or popup menu in flexbar or something, but I'm weird |
| 13:46.23 | Depherios | was it buttonhole that tries to put them all in one menu |
| 13:46.24 | Depherios | ? |
| 13:46.26 | AnduinLothar | where do u put all the pulldowns? |
| 13:46.46 | Depherios | my titan panel doesn't have much drop an icon on the right side is what I'd do |
| 13:46.56 | Depherios | right click it for the little pulldown... |
| 13:47.02 | AnduinLothar | ya, for somethings u dont mind 2 clicks, need my 1 click for wardrobe |
| 13:47.07 | Depherios | lol |
| 13:47.15 | AnduinLothar | and CTA |
| 13:47.19 | AnduinLothar | and IEF |
| 13:47.25 | Depherios | then put an icon on the right side of titan XD |
| 13:47.27 | Depherios | lol |
| 13:47.49 | Depherios | yeah... IEF still shows, but it actually shows up on the far left side over my deposit box button ON titan panel, lol |
| 13:47.51 | AnduinLothar | Earth Feature frame needs 1 too since else it's 3 clicks to what it's page holds |
| 13:47.57 | Depherios | lol |
| 13:48.06 | Depherios | I have NEVER used the earth button |
| 13:48.12 | Depherios | lol |
| 13:48.19 | AnduinLothar | ya, i usually just bind those |
| 13:48.30 | AnduinLothar | MF anchors |
| 13:48.34 | Depherios | ... /bkb what else is in there? |
| 13:48.44 | Depherios | I don't need those, all those frames are gone |
| 13:48.45 | Depherios | lol |
| 13:49.12 | AnduinLothar | crap.. yatlas uses the same evil button format |
| 13:49.14 | Depherios | I use mobile frames mostly so I can have my character window open at the auction house |
| 13:49.36 | AnduinLothar | YatlasButtonFrame:SetAllPoints(TheYatlasButton); |
| 13:49.49 | Depherios | OH GOD |
| 13:50.06 | Depherios | WHY? |
| 13:50.08 | AnduinLothar | looks like they all copied ur format cide |
| 13:50.31 | Depherios | I don't want to sound rude, but really XD |
| 13:50.33 | AnduinLothar | well, yatlas prolly copied atlas |
| 13:50.41 | AnduinLothar | and atlas copied ct |
| 13:50.46 | Depherios | lol |
| 13:51.24 | AnduinLothar | i'd make a gui for adding button on MMF but all these frames have exceptions :/ |
| 13:51.47 | Depherios | I don't use yatlas, I just have WoW Cartographe on the laptop |
| 13:51.55 | AnduinLothar | how's that? |
| 13:52.26 | Depherios | ? |
| 13:53.31 | zeeg | grr |
| 13:53.33 | zeeg | i cant find the wow font |
| 13:53.34 | zeeg | anyone got it |
| 13:53.40 | Depherios | uh... |
| 13:54.13 | Depherios | I hate that font XD |
| 13:54.22 | Depherios | but there you go |
| 13:55.07 | zeeg | failed :( |
| 13:55.12 | Depherios | moving it now |
| 13:55.27 | Depherios | http://67.189.88.161/FRIZQT__.TTF |
| 13:55.33 | zeeg | ty |
| 13:56.05 | zeeg | is that really the wow font? |
| 13:56.19 | Depherios | right out of the fonts folder |
| 13:56.20 | AnduinLothar | there we go, added 8 new buttons |
| 13:56.35 | Depherios | of my install, from the old custom ui unpackager |
| 13:56.41 | zeeg | oh i meant the wow logo :D |
| 13:56.45 | Depherios | OH |
| 13:57.11 | zeeg | this will work though i guess |
| 13:57.14 | zeeg | better than nothin |
| 13:57.16 | Depherios | lol |
| 13:57.23 | Depherios | I think I have the STARCRAFT one |
| 13:57.29 | zeeg | hrm |
| 13:57.40 | Depherios | somewhere |
| 13:57.47 | zeeg | nah its cool |
| 13:58.00 | Depherios | foklard is what you're looking for? or the actual WoW font? |
| 13:58.03 | Depherios | folkard rather |
| 13:58.15 | zeeg | depends |
| 13:58.22 | zeeg | does Folkard look similar to "Warcraft 3" title font? |
| 13:58.22 | zeeg | :p |
| 13:58.28 | zeeg | i want the closest i can get :) |
| 13:58.37 | Depherios | seems like everybody who has anything to do with WoW loves Folkard, but no, it's not the WARCRAFT font |
| 13:59.05 | zeeg | or that one they use on all their images |
| 13:59.09 | zeeg | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/news/images/05-11/year1/human.jpg |
| 13:59.32 | Depherios | that's folkard |
| 14:00.01 | Depherios | http://www.dafont.com/en/search.php?nb_ppp=50&text=WARCRAFT&q=folkard |
| 14:00.04 | Depherios | lol |
| 14:00.25 | zeeg | alright |
| 14:00.26 | zeeg | thall work |
| 14:00.26 | Depherios | not free though, I'm sure you can find it somewhere |
| 14:00.52 | zeeg | that page let me download it.. |
| 14:01.11 | Depherios | think it's a demo... not sure though you'll find out if it's missig the E or something XD |
| 14:02.01 | zeeg | LOL |
| 14:02.10 | zeeg | well it gave me all the letters i needed |
| 14:02.11 | zeeg | so no worries |
| 14:02.15 | Depherios | XD |
| 14:02.31 | AnduinLothar | new MFF: http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2340 |
| 14:04.41 | zeeg | alright time to cut up my design |
| 14:08.38 | AnduinLothar | sleep |
| 14:08.49 | Depherios | is for the weak! |
| 14:09.12 | zeeg | AGREED |
| 14:09.51 | Depherios | buah... so they NERF the troll racials? -- that better add a lot of spell damage |
| 14:10.14 | Depherios | ... oh so they make it so they get a bow bonus |
| 14:11.43 | Depherios | oookay |
| 14:12.48 | Depherios | ... I've been listening to Unreal, Unreal Tournament, UT2k3/4's soundtracks for a week now O_o |
| 14:13.20 | Depherios | so hey, downloading the test realm patch, you have to drop that on a seperate install? |
| 14:13.59 | zeeg | grr |
| 14:14.02 | zeeg | how do i save an image in photoshop |
| 14:14.09 | zeeg | and make it so the gradient doesnt go all.. fugly on me |
| 14:14.40 | Depherios | what are you saving it as? gif? jpg? tga? |
| 14:15.59 | zeeg | gif and jpeg |
| 14:16.03 | zeeg | both suck |
| 14:16.30 | Depherios | gif you're usually screwed, if your gradient is bigger than 256 pixels long, or has things on top, you need to layer them on the page gradient seperate from the actual image |
| 14:16.50 | Depherios | do what I do |
| 14:16.57 | Depherios | cut it up into lots of seperate images XD |
| 14:17.04 | Depherios | use slices in imageready |
| 14:17.16 | Cide | I like png |
| 14:17.27 | Depherios | yes png is nice, but doesn't display at all in older browsers |
| 14:17.30 | Cide | but I guess separate gif images works |
| 14:17.34 | Cide | who cares, it's 2005 :P |
| 14:17.36 | Depherios | XD |
| 14:17.42 | Depherios | so? scalability is good |
| 14:17.52 | Depherios | what about people on notebook PCs or trying to browse on their PSP? |
| 14:18.02 | Cide | sorry for trying to joke, apparently I failed :P |
| 14:18.06 | Depherios | XD |
| 14:18.08 | Depherios | I laughed |
| 14:18.09 | Depherios | hence the XD |
| 14:18.28 | zeeg | Depherios, i know hwo to slice |
| 14:18.30 | zeeg | hrmm |
| 14:18.36 | zeeg | maybe png will work |
| 14:18.42 | zeeg | wow |
| 14:18.45 | zeeg | im tired |
| 14:18.48 | Depherios | sorry... I'm too used to talking to people who don't know what they're doing |
| 14:18.48 | zeeg | i cant even get my bg to display |
| 14:18.48 | zeeg | >< |
| 14:18.55 | zeeg | Depherios, ya i sadly get paid to do this shit |
| 14:18.56 | zeeg | :| |
| 14:19.02 | zeeg | although mmotheatre = my own thing |
| 14:21.14 | zeeg | hrmm png dont work either |
| 14:21.15 | zeeg | its still ugly |
| 14:21.39 | Depherios | O_o |
| 14:21.44 | Depherios | you using save for web? |
| 14:21.56 | Depherios | not saving it as a higher color depth than your own monitor? |
| 14:22.11 | Depherios | sorry if I'm saying obvoius things, like I said |
| 14:22.12 | Depherios | ... lol |
| 14:22.19 | zeeg | oh |
| 14:22.21 | zeeg | save for web |
| 14:22.22 | zeeg | why? |
| 14:22.30 | Depherios | not using save for web = dumb |
| 14:22.34 | Depherios | that's why |
| 14:22.49 | zeeg | i dont wanna slice it |
| 14:22.59 | Depherios | gradients are just plain hard, I gave up on them years ago layer it if you don't want to slice it |
| 14:23.10 | Depherios | make the gradient a seperate image, and just drop the logo on top |
| 14:23.19 | zeeg | i cropped it out |
| 14:23.20 | zeeg | saved it |
| 14:23.22 | zeeg | and it become ugly |
| 14:23.23 | zeeg | lol |
| 14:23.25 | Depherios | lol |
| 14:23.34 | Depherios | you have to keep the edge gradient a little bit |
| 14:23.37 | Depherios | when you crop it |
| 14:23.37 | zeeg | ill try slicing |
| 14:23.55 | Depherios | just select the COMPLETE 100%transparent part of the overlay |
| 14:24.00 | Depherios | and then delete all that out of the background |
| 14:24.09 | Depherios | and save that as a transparent gif and drop that on top |
| 14:24.28 | Depherios | then the ugly gradient edge around the image won't stand out, but you won't get an ugly edge on it... |
| 14:25.10 | zeeg | hrmm |
| 14:25.14 | zeeg | maybe it just needs to be a bigger image |
| 14:25.25 | zeeg | cuz the logo gif i mad elooks fine |
| 14:25.46 | Depherios | ... gradients suck down memory, since each line has to be a seperate color |
| 14:25.51 | Depherios | your images will be HUGE |
| 14:25.55 | Depherios | lol |
| 14:25.59 | Depherios | or ugly |
| 14:25.59 | Depherios | or both |
| 14:26.22 | Depherios | I gave up on gradients unless I was using flash, or a 1x256 tiled bg |
| 14:26.34 | Depherios | 1x256 tiled bg GIF |
| 14:26.48 | zeeg | hrmm |
| 14:26.49 | zeeg | now i just broke it |
| 14:35.41 | Depherios | They're dropping like flies! |
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| 14:45.30 | Cide | hmm |
| 14:45.46 | Cide | is it just me or is MouseIsOver() broken on test? |
| 14:47.22 | Cide | MouseIsOver(GetMouseFocus()) seems to always return nil |
| 14:47.36 | Cide | or not... weird |
| 14:48.34 | Cide | it returns 1 for MouseIsOver(WorldFrame) all the time, but seems to never return true for anything else |
| 14:58.44 | Depherios | just installing test server junk now |
| 14:58.49 | Depherios | so... can't help you out just yet XD |
| 15:00.12 | zeeg | http://davidcramer.net/projects/mmotheatre/ |
| 15:00.12 | zeeg | idk |
| 15:02.03 | Depherios | broken... the MMO Theatre Act 1 thing, is up what looks like two pixels too many to me |
| 15:02.35 | zeeg | refresh |
| 15:02.44 | zeeg | what browser |
| 15:02.55 | Depherios | firefox |
| 15:03.01 | zeeg | 1.5? |
| 15:03.21 | Depherios | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7 |
| 15:03.28 | zeeg | hrm |
| 15:03.34 | zeeg | OH |
| 15:03.42 | zeeg | i see it now |
| 15:04.22 | zeeg | there |
| 15:05.58 | Depherios | oh god my WoW is so much smoother on the test realm with the no UI and all |
| 15:06.19 | Depherios | fixed btw zeeg |
| 15:06.59 | zeeg | idk what to do w/ the design |
| 15:07.02 | zeeg | ill find a designer to play w/ it |
| 15:07.10 | zeeg | i SOO want to sleep right now |
| 15:07.12 | zeeg | but i have to wake up in 2 hours |
| 15:07.17 | Depherios | lol |
| 15:07.19 | Depherios | ditto |
| 15:07.27 | Depherios | ... no... I have to wake up in 2 and a half to 3 hours |
| 15:07.52 | zeeg | hrm |
| 15:07.54 | zeeg | maybe ill zzz for 2 hours |
| 15:09.03 | Depherios | crap |
| 15:09.13 | Depherios | what's a print function IN wow |
| 15:09.24 | Depherios | for testing I always use Sea.IO.print |
| 15:09.33 | Depherios | and... yeah... no addons moved over yet |
| 15:09.39 | Cide | /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage(msg) |
| 15:10.49 | zeeg | zzz for 2 hours I go |
| 15:17.03 | Depherios | g'night |
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| 15:22.56 | Depherios | Cide: MouseIsOver is working fine for me, on worldframe and mainmenubar anyway |
| 15:23.12 | rallion | sssnnoowwwwww |
| 15:23.48 | Industrial | snow? |
| 15:23.50 | Industrial | i want snow! |
| 15:23.51 | Industrial | >:( |
| 15:25.36 | Tain | Yeah it's snowing here. |
| 15:26.06 | Depherios | it never snows here, if it does, 2 hours later it freezes on top of it.. stupid freezing rain |
| 15:26.56 | Cide | Depherios: try FriendsFrame |
| 15:27.16 | Cide | -scr |
| 15:27.18 | Cide | err |
| 15:27.22 | Depherios | I DON'T KNOW HOW XD ...... s is social? no... O! O |
| 15:27.24 | Depherios | there we go |
| 15:27.31 | Cide | hm |
| 15:27.44 | Cide | works after FriendsFrame:EnableMouse(1) |
| 15:28.01 | Depherios | works fine for me period |
| 15:28.07 | Cide | hm |
| 15:28.34 | Depherios | just using /script OMFG = MouseIsOver(FriendsFrame); ChatFrame1:AddMessage(OMFG) |
| 15:29.43 | Cide | doesn't for me |
| 15:30.09 | Cide | try /script OMFG = MouseIsOver(GetMouseFocus()); ChatFrame1:AddMessage(OMFG) |
| 15:30.12 | Cide | does it always work? |
| 15:30.42 | Depherios | yup |
| 15:30.49 | Depherios | nil return not over the frame, 1 over the frame |
| 15:30.57 | Cide | that should always return 1 |
| 15:31.25 | Cide | returns nil for me like all the time |
| 15:32.12 | Depherios | nil return for me on PlayerFrame, MinimapCluster, and Minimap O_o |
| 15:32.48 | Depherios | and the target frame |
| 15:33.13 | Depherios | ChatFrame1 works |
| 15:33.37 | Depherios | GameTimeFrame does not though |
| 15:33.39 | Depherios | ...... |
| 15:34.05 | Cide | chatframe1 works for me as well |
| 15:46.30 | Depherios | oh yay, just respecced, and didn't get my talent points lol |
| 15:46.32 | Depherios | whoops |
| 15:46.59 | Depherios | I'm sad |
| 15:47.02 | Depherios | new troll racials are awesome |
| 15:47.06 | Depherios | .... unless you want to heal with zerk |
| 15:47.12 | Depherios | you used to be able to, get that haste bonus on heals |
| 15:47.16 | Depherios | ... now it' a damage bonus |
| 15:47.55 | Depherios | oh well... it'll do me good until endgame |
| 15:48.27 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/index.html |
| 15:48.34 | Industrial | now serving my first addon release |
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| 15:52.41 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/index.html |
| 15:52.41 | Industrial | now serving my first addon release |
| 15:52.41 | *** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 15:52.41 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:52.51 | Industrial | @ Kaelten & MoonWolf |
| 15:52.52 | Industrial | :D |
| 15:53.08 | MoonWolf | cool |
| 15:53.13 | Kaelten | why not upload it to wowI? |
| 15:54.58 | Industrial | heh, i will |
| 15:54.59 | Industrial | ;) |
| 15:55.26 | Kaelten | cool |
| 15:55.39 | Kaelten | this ICCAN Verisign settlement blows |
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| 16:07.43 | Osagasu | good morning good morning my mildly annoying compatriots. |
| 16:08.11 | Kaelten | hello osagasu |
| 16:08.45 | Osagasu | How's KCI coming along? I wanna play with the advanced search function! ;___; |
| 16:10.04 | Kaelten | hehe, its coming, I've gotten distracted trying to make a development tool for AceGUI, but its turning out harder that I thought. |
| 16:10.17 | Kaelten | I found and fixed the orange item link bug |
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| 16:11.24 | Kaelten | although if I can ever get the dev tool for AceGUI working it'd rock. |
| 16:11.39 | Industrial | what will it do? |
| 16:11.56 | Kaelten | allow in the game on the fly designing of xml frames |
| 16:12.29 | Osagasu | I didn't think that was possible |
| 16:12.32 | Kaelten | and at the end you just copy/paste some code to your .lua file. |
| 16:12.39 | Osagasu | then again, Stat Rings are too |
| 16:12.47 | Osagasu | and so is spoofing item links |
| 16:13.14 | Osagasu | and turning yourself around 360 degrees qickly with only the push of a button |
| 16:13.18 | Kaelten | hehe, its turning out to be a little more complicated than I thought. |
| 16:13.29 | Kaelten | Ever looked at my xml files in KCI? |
| 16:13.35 | Industrial | Kaelten: i love you |
| 16:13.40 | Osagasu | I tried, damn near burned my eyes out |
| 16:13.53 | Kaelten | doesn't make sense does it? |
| 16:13.54 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 16:14.35 | Kaelten | its because AceGUI uses a lua config block to setup everything. |
| 16:14.41 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/mace-of-unending-life-id21407/ |
| 16:14.44 | Kaelten | which to people like me is perferable. |
| 16:14.49 | Industrial | ToastTheif: pm |
| 16:14.52 | ToastTheif | omg |
| 16:14.55 | ToastTheif | do u see that mace? |
| 16:14.58 | ToastTheif | new in 1.9 |
| 16:15.00 | ToastTheif | ome |
| 16:15.04 | ToastTheif | auhsasfh |
| 16:15.08 | Industrial | omfg? |
| 16:15.16 | ToastTheif | yes |
| 16:15.19 | Industrial | no way |
| 16:15.24 | Osagasu | I'll roll a druid for that mace |
| 16:15.25 | Industrial | thats just sad man |
| 16:15.34 | Industrial | druids > * now |
| 16:15.36 | Industrial | with that mace |
| 16:15.37 | Industrial | ;\ |
| 16:15.44 | Osagasu | heh, but its only 1-h |
| 16:15.45 | Kaelten | damn wowguru is running slow |
| 16:16.23 | Kaelten | thats just a freaky mace |
| 16:16.51 | Kaelten | oh shit now I know whats causing that bug |
| 16:16.57 | Kaelten | duh |
| 16:17.06 | Kaelten | have I ever mentioned that I hate Stack Overflows. |
| 16:17.10 | ToastTheif | Osagasu, the one handedness makes it EVEN CRAZIER |
| 16:17.41 | Industrial | Kaelten: ;\ |
| 16:18.01 | Industrial | ToastTheif: this will single handedly make druids > * |
| 16:18.04 | Industrial | :E |
| 16:18.24 | Industrial | they already have the most armour... (right?) |
| 16:18.40 | ToastTheif | well |
| 16:18.44 | ToastTheif | they *can* |
| 16:18.55 | ToastTheif | depends on how you are specc'd |
| 16:20.09 | Osagasu | yep |
| 16:20.32 | Osagasu | did anyone try that 180 turn macro Masennus posted on the forums? |
| 16:21.14 | Kaelten | nope, did you? |
| 16:21.23 | Osagasu | I can't get it to work |
| 16:23.33 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/sandstorm-cloak-id21456/ |
| 16:23.40 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/pendant-of-the-shifting-sands-id21506/ |
| 16:23.44 | ToastTheif | my druid shall own all |
| 16:23.53 | Osagasu | oh, I got it |
| 16:23.59 | Osagasu | forgot to do /script SaveView(1); |
| 16:24.10 | Osagasu | it works and is damn cool |
| 16:24.14 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/book-of-rejuvenation-xi-id21296/ too :) |
| 16:24.34 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/scaled-bracers-of-the-gorger-id21491/ |
| 16:24.38 | ToastTheif | pwnage bracers |
| 16:24.57 | Tain | Oh no, the inventer of Stove Top Stuffing died last week. :( |
| 16:25.10 | ToastTheif | =/ |
| 16:25.14 | ToastTheif | o.O |
| 16:26.12 | Tain | There's no way my bread is going ot be ready in time. What to do what to do. |
| 16:26.14 | Industrial | http://www.poddle.net/~spud/WoWScrnShot_112405_031428.jpg |
| 16:26.57 | ToastTheif | oooh, I heard they had new mounts |
| 16:27.01 | ToastTheif | never saw a SS of one tho |
| 16:27.10 | Tain | Nifty. |
| 16:27.29 | ToastTheif | how does a lvl one have it? |
| 16:27.40 | ToastTheif | well |
| 16:27.40 | Tain | Doesn't. |
| 16:27.44 | ToastTheif | have the link anyway |
| 16:28.02 | Tain | I'm guessing from the macro. |
| 16:28.28 | ToastTheif | oh u can do that? |
| 16:28.32 | Tain | Pure guess on my part, but that may be the item ID of that item and a macro is popping up the ToolTip from it. |
| 16:28.42 | ToastTheif | that's cool |
| 16:28.49 | Tain | I don't think on the curent server, but if I'm right it's that way in test. |
| 16:28.53 | ToastTheif | how do you get the ID? |
| 16:28.57 | Tain | But I am completely guessing just based on what's in the picture. |
| 16:29.06 | Tain | Probably just putting numbers in to see what comes up. |
| 16:29.15 | ToastTheif | well isn't there like |
| 16:29.24 | ToastTheif | a getItemID() |
| 16:29.41 | Cide | GetItemInfo(21176) returns nil on test |
| 16:30.06 | Kaelten | cide: Then its not in the servers cache |
| 16:30.10 | Tain | Well could just be a Photoshop job for all I know. :) |
| 16:30.24 | ToastTheif | cide |
| 16:30.28 | Cide | oh |
| 16:30.31 | Cide | true |
| 16:30.40 | ToastTheif | try /script itemid=21176 |
| 16:31.00 | Cide | that just sets a var |
| 16:31.03 | Kaelten | what is item 21176 anyway ? |
| 16:31.05 | Tain | Well just see if you can recreate what's in the picture. |
| 16:31.18 | Tain | Just guessing based on this picture, Kaelten. |
| 16:31.18 | Tain | http://www.poddle.net/~spud/WoWScrnShot_112405_031428.jpg |
| 16:31.35 | Tain | Pure conjecture. |
| 16:31.43 | Tain | Which I say trump facts every time. |
| 16:32.01 | Kaelten | heh |
| 16:32.06 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/files/manslayer-of-the-qirajijpg-id985/ |
| 16:32.10 | ToastTheif | *drool* |
| 16:32.11 | Cide | seems fake really |
| 16:32.19 | ToastTheif | somone try /script itemid=21176 =P |
| 16:32.22 | Kaelten | thats a neat looking item but i'll believe it when I see it |
| 16:32.23 | Cide | nothing happens |
| 16:32.25 | MoonWolf | why is a warlock wearing that. |
| 16:32.26 | Cide | it just sets a global variable |
| 16:32.32 | Cide | we had like 20 mounts drop in AQ last night |
| 16:32.40 | Cide | Green/Yellow Qiraji Resonating Crystal |
| 16:32.49 | Kaelten | what do those do? |
| 16:32.52 | Cide | not sure why the black one would be legendary, they were all blue |
| 16:32.57 | Cide | summons a mount usable inside AQ |
| 16:33.05 | MoonWolf | are the mounts 200 or 160 ? |
| 16:33.20 | Cide | they were bugged, couldn't use any of them |
| 16:33.25 | Tain | Only usable inside AQ? Why? |
| 16:33.26 | Kaelten | lol |
| 16:33.29 | Cide | but I guess 200, they were req level 60 |
| 16:33.36 | Cide | because you get a free epic mount otherwise? |
| 16:33.40 | Cide | we had 20 of them drop within an hour |
| 16:33.45 | Cide | got 4 of them after 2 pulls |
| 16:33.57 | Tain | Then I'd think the problem is itemization drop rates. |
| 16:34.07 | Cide | no |
| 16:34.09 | Tain | I just really don't like the idea of going down that slope of area specific items. |
| 16:34.24 | Cide | you can't use your own epic in there I believe |
| 16:34.34 | Cide | but AQ is HUGE so you will need a mount |
| 16:34.42 | ToastTheif | there are flying mounts in outlands only Tain =P |
| 16:34.47 | Cide | Use: Emits a high frequency sound, forcing a silithid tank to burrow out from its home beneath the Temple of Ahn'Qiraj.Any hostile action towards the rider forces the tank underground. |
| 16:34.57 | Cide | unique, binds when picked up, req level 60 |
| 16:35.06 | Tain | That's a different thing, Toast. I can see flying mounts being availble only outside. |
| 16:35.20 | Tain | WEll, I could see it if it weren't for the fact that all Taxi mounts go inside cities. |
| 16:35.50 | Cide | what do you mean? |
| 16:35.51 | Osagasu | can't get in the server atm |
| 16:36.13 | Tain | Flying mounts only allowed outside in the wilderness, I could see. |
| 16:36.21 | Cide | maybe |
| 16:36.25 | Tain | Except flying mounts fly into cities for taxis, so it doesn't make sense anyway. |
| 16:36.38 | ToastTheif | http://photobucket.com/albums/c399/asylandra/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_112405_085844.jpg now that looks fake |
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| 16:37.20 | Tain | Well, I'm just saying I don't like the idea of creating artificial limitations to force people to have to get new loot that only works in specific places. |
| 16:37.25 | kremonte | 'lo |
| 16:37.49 | Cide | well, be glad you can use any mount at all :P |
| 16:37.59 | Cide | I mean, your entire raid will be equipped with one before you get past the first boss |
| 16:38.05 | Tain | That isn't the point. |
| 16:38.19 | Cide | I didn't say that |
| 16:38.49 | Cide | I bet they did it like that because of the "Any hostile action towards the rider forces the tank underground" |
| 16:38.50 | Tain | Next up, "Special Sack of Mounts" to hold all of the different mounts you'll need. |
| 16:39.04 | Cide | they needed it because otherwise you could train through to new places |
| 16:39.08 | Tain | Oh damn which one do I need to ride in Arathi. Nope, not that one. Click.. nope.. click.. no.. |
| 16:39.22 | Cide | and they couldn't add the same thing to the normal mounts |
| 16:39.56 | Tain | It isn't a big deal for AQ, it's a big deal for setting precident for doing the same thing in the future. |
| 16:40.09 | Cide | it's a technical limitation |
| 16:40.34 | Tain | That may be true, but if so then it's a cheap hack to get around a technical limitation. |
| 16:40.48 | Kaelten | no its also a gameplay limitation |
| 16:40.56 | Tain | Which is disguised from the players by showing them shiny objects. |
| 16:40.56 | Cide | not really |
| 16:41.03 | Tain | 'ooooh battle tank' |
| 16:41.04 | Kaelten | Tain you would you be happy if your mount suddenly ran off every time you got attacked? |
| 16:41.19 | Cide | they could hardcode in if ( area == AQ ) then dismount() end in the getting hit code, but I'm sure they didn't want to |
| 16:41.41 | Kaelten | ya Cide they probably could. |
| 16:41.44 | Tain | No, but they could code in a table of areas. |
| 16:42.03 | Tain | To actually plan for the future. |
| 16:42.13 | Kaelten | Tain: whats wrong with giving players new toys, since thats what most of the players want? |
| 16:42.46 | Tain | New toys are great. New toys to replace old toys to disguise your issues is not. |
| 16:43.48 | Tain | It's like introducing a new area saying, "Oh by the way... swords don't work here. But! If you find our new glass swords you can use them instead!" |
| 16:44.06 | Kaelten | What issue are they hiding ? |
| 16:44.09 | Tain | Sure, no problem! |
| 16:44.17 | Cide | except, you're overexaggerating then |
| 16:44.18 | Tain | Until they start doing that over and over and over again. |
| 16:44.30 | Tain | Like I said, it's an issue of starting down a slippery slope. |
| 16:44.35 | Osagasu | well, the quiraji mounts aren't really fake limitations |
| 16:44.44 | Osagasu | bbl, thanksgiving dinner... at noon. >.< |
| 16:44.47 | kremonte | w'ore ya tokin' about? |
| 16:44.53 | kremonte | AQ mounts? wh're those? |
| 16:45.09 | Tain | Shiny baubles to give players since you can use your norma mount there. |
| 16:45.27 | Kaelten | but there is a valid reason for not wanting to have normal mount use in there |
| 16:46.16 | Tain | You know it could very well be that this is the only time they do something like this and my fears are completely unfounded. |
| 16:46.26 | Kaelten | 1) its too big not to have a mount, 2) They don't want you to be able to just run through the earlier encounters to get to the newer stuff. |
| 16:46.49 | Kaelten | so what choices they have are 1) screw with current mounts 2) have alternitives |
| 16:46.59 | Tain | I like 1. |
| 16:47.12 | Tain | It keeps things consistent instead of adding hacks after the fact. |
| 16:47.24 | ToastTheif | I like Pi |
| 16:47.25 | Tain | This isn't about mounts in AQ. |
| 16:47.27 | kremonte | what're you guys talking about? lol |
| 16:47.30 | Kaelten | are you sure that its consistant that in this one zone your mount suddenly acts different? |
| 16:47.31 | Industrial | if the upgrade the mount speed hackers can speedhack faster unnoticed |
| 16:47.32 | Tain | It's about every single time they have to do this again. |
| 16:47.34 | Industrial | they* |
| 16:47.39 | Industrial | but lets not worry about tha |
| 16:47.40 | Industrial | t |
| 16:47.41 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:47.41 | Cide | test server restarting in 15 |
| 16:47.46 | Cide | wonder what they're changing |
| 16:47.56 | Tain | Yes Kaelten, things are scarier in that zone. :P |
| 16:48.28 | kremonte | Cide- wrath i hope! :P |
| 16:48.33 | Kaelten | lol, your average horse is so stupid that a loud sound should scare it off. |
| 16:49.14 | Kaelten | so that logic doesn't stand up. :) |
| 16:49.29 | Kaelten | and why would a mechnostrider worry about anything? |
| 16:50.42 | Kaelten | so to keep things consistent they had to either a) not allow mounts or b) give you special ones |
| 16:51.03 | Cide | believe me |
| 16:51.12 | Cide | you don't want to run through AQ |
| 16:51.21 | Kaelten | ok so open b sounds more than reasonable. |
| 16:51.24 | kremonte | what's wrong with AQ?! im so confused! |
| 16:51.31 | Kaelten | nothing |
| 16:52.17 | ToastTheif | wrath? |
| 16:52.30 | ToastTheif | the druid spell? |
| 16:52.35 | kremonte | wrath, the set |
| 16:52.39 | ToastTheif | oh |
| 16:52.41 | kremonte | HELLO. I AM TRON WARRIOR |
| 16:52.44 | ToastTheif | ok idc then |
| 16:52.46 | kremonte | and tron mages |
| 16:52.50 | Stylpe | Augh! Wrath! I don't wanna look like a rhino! |
| 16:52.57 | kremonte | seriously, i thing the artists were watching terminator and tron the wh ole time |
| 16:53.14 | ToastTheif | H E L L O H E H H E H |
| 16:53.26 | kremonte | G E T M O R E H A T E |
| 16:53.34 | kremonte | T H E H E A L E R S A R E A G G R O I N G |
| 16:53.46 | Kaelten | to quote the devs at blizzcon, "Sometimes it looks coolor on concept art than on 3d models" |
| 16:53.50 | Kaelten | er cooler |
| 16:54.01 | kremonte | the concept art looked like tron too =| |
| 16:55.53 | ToastTheif | As of 11:27 PM EST, my computer has arrived at the FedEx location in LOS ANGELES, CA. Score! |
| 16:56.10 | Kaelten | lol |
| 16:56.20 | kremonte | are you in EST? lol |
| 16:56.21 | kremonte | or CA? |
| 16:56.28 | rallion | It sucks seeing that when you live in NY :P |
| 16:56.47 | kremonte | everything i buy starts in NJ |
| 16:56.59 | kremonte | then goes to PA, then NY, then NJ, then NY for the last time |
| 16:57.17 | ToastTheif | Im in mich, yes |
| 16:57.24 | ToastTheif | so mich is EST |
| 16:58.20 | Kaelten | thats it lets put AceGUIDev on hold and owrk on something I can make progress on |
| 16:58.29 | kremonte | AceGUIDev? |
| 16:58.33 | ToastTheif | FedEx should put GPS devices on their packages so I can get real time tracking dammit |
| 16:58.49 | Kaelten | Yep in game dev tool for AceGUI |
| 16:58.58 | kremonte | agegui? :x |
| 16:59.06 | ToastTheif | lol |
| 16:59.08 | Kaelten | its just giving me a headache because when Turan designed AceGUI the stuff I want to do was never intended. |
| 16:59.32 | ToastTheif | Ll U |
| 17:00.10 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 17:00.16 | ToastTheif | <^> |
| 17:00.40 | kremonte | wow slam is really good |
| 17:00.51 | kremonte | much faster than my weapon speed |
| 17:01.05 | ToastTheif | HmMmMmMm |
| 17:01.18 | ToastTheif | I think I'll have to get my hunter to lvl 60 when my computer gets here |
| 17:01.29 | ToastTheif | then get my druid to 60 |
| 17:01.31 | ToastTheif | then have some fun |
| 17:01.40 | ToastTheif | that's 7 levels |
| 17:01.44 | ToastTheif | shouldn't be too hard |
| 17:02.14 | ToastTheif | Hunter = 6 // Druid = 1 |
| 17:02.51 | kremonte | fun? what? |
| 17:03.57 | ToastTheif | lvl 19 twinked rogue in the BGs |
| 17:04.00 | ToastTheif | that's fun =P |
| 17:05.05 | Industrial | lol |
| 17:05.07 | Industrial | pathetic |
| 17:05.08 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:06.09 | kremonte | it is fun |
| 17:06.16 | kremonte | we have guild 19 wsg |
| 17:06.25 | kremonte | so twinked out |
| 17:06.31 | kremonte | ran ragefire chasm for one guy lol |
| 17:08.29 | kremonte | yay i love the horde, 2 60's could have a: killed me (lv31), or b: saved a 20 priest from 2 level 30 mobs as he got killed |
| 17:08.35 | kremonte | gogo decisions |
| 17:13.14 | Industrial | i so want to be different! |
| 17:13.34 | Industrial | ME SO USEH HYDR0RZ LALALAL!!!!11eleventy-one |
| 17:13.37 | Industrial | :| |
| 17:14.21 | kremonte | bahahaha rofl moment |
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| 17:14.45 | kremonte | a 60 mage ganks me while i'm grinding. a few minutes later, i get a whisper from a level 1 alt saying "sorry, i meant to kill someone else" |
| 17:14.46 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 17:14.50 | kremonte | roar |
| 17:14.54 | shouryuu | haha lol |
| 17:15.15 | shouryuu | w00t |
| 17:15.20 | shouryuu | my exams are over |
| 17:15.20 | shouryuu | fow now |
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| 17:38.38 | ToastTheif | nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 17:51.39 | Industrial | pizza 4 me |
| 17:56.20 | rallion | hydraIRC actually looks pretty nice lol |
| 18:01.01 | Industrial | look too corporate m$ blah for m |
| 18:01.02 | Industrial | me |
| 18:01.08 | Industrial | looks |
| 18:03.51 | rallion | mIRC has a crappy interface, really |
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| 18:15.00 | shouryuu | ~dance |
| 18:15.02 | purl | ACTION becomes steve ballmer |
| 18:17.04 | kremonte | ~emulate kremonte |
| 18:17.05 | purl | hmm... emulate kremonte is "<reply> i'm so confused..." |
| 18:17.09 | kremonte | o_O |
| 18:19.07 | Stylpe | ~literal emulate kremonte |
| 18:19.09 | purl | "emulate kremonte" is ""<reply> i'm so confused..."" |
| 18:19.24 | Stylpe | ~no, emulate kremonte is <reply> i'm so confused... |
| 18:19.34 | Stylpe | purl, no, emulate kremonte is <reply> i'm so confused... |
| 18:19.35 | purl | okay, Stylpe |
| 18:19.42 | Stylpe | ~emulate kremonte |
| 18:19.43 | purl | i'm so confused... |
| 18:19.54 | Stylpe | ~emulate me |
| 18:19.56 | purl | Augh! I need candy! |
| 18:20.06 | Stylpe | ^_^ |
| 18:22.59 | MoonWolf | ~emulate me |
| 18:23.00 | purl | I hate you, I Hate you, I HATE you, Call me |
| 18:25.59 | Rallion | okay...i'm an idiot...where do you learn Horse Riding? |
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| 18:32.25 | Iriel | Morning Cair |
| 18:32.30 | Cair | hey :) |
| 18:34.06 | Industrial | sigh, this morning... on the subway |
| 18:34.39 | MoonWolf | go on |
| 18:34.58 | Industrial | this _angel_ steps into the (dont know the word, compartiment?) |
| 18:35.18 | Industrial | i was like... *drool drool* |
| 18:35.55 | Industrial | don't you like that game you play where someone looks at you, then you quickly torn your head towards them and they quickly look somewhere else? repeast repeat repeat |
| 18:36.07 | Industrial | so we were playing that game right? |
| 18:36.26 | Industrial | and she stands up and exits |
| 18:36.40 | Industrial | and im like... well i gotta go to work... |
| 18:36.44 | Industrial | so i stay |
| 18:36.57 | Industrial | and she waves, and i wave, and we smile... |
| 18:37.11 | Industrial | next stop i exit the sub and conclude last stop was my stop |
| 18:37.18 | Industrial | :'( |
| 18:37.26 | Industrial | BWAAAAHhhhhhhh :'( |
| 18:37.52 | Iriel | Awww |
| 18:38.03 | Iriel | The moral of this story is, never forget that a pretty girl makes you stupid 8-) |
| 18:38.14 | Industrial | but she smiled at me |
| 18:38.19 | Industrial | and waved at me while exiting |
| 18:38.22 | Industrial | and i waved back |
| 18:38.26 | Industrial | MAN |
| 18:38.29 | Industrial | so not fair |
| 18:39.09 | Industrial | im girl-less for like 1.5 years and this happens to me |
| 18:39.10 | Industrial | sigh |
| 18:39.15 | Industrial | well, back to work |
| 18:44.10 | Cair | Rallion: The logging camp down towards RedRidge |
| 19:03.03 | Cair | Quiet. Everyone must be getting ready to stuff themselves on turkey. |
| 19:03.29 | net | or not |
| 19:03.54 | Cair | Well, referring to the American members of the channel. ;) |
| 19:03.57 | Cide | I'm just too lazy to write stuff |
| 19:06.38 | Iriel | I'll be getting ours ready to be cooked in about 30 minutes |
| 19:07.52 | Cair | *drool* |
| 19:09.21 | Iriel | Then I kill time for about 1 1/2 hours before starting on the rest (Mashed potato, corn, green beans, bread rolls, etc) |
| 19:09.23 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 19:09.38 | Iriel | Hungry yet? |
| 19:09.46 | Cair | *whimper* |
| 19:10.15 | Osagasu | I already have |
| 19:11.29 | Cair | Ah well, I knew I was going to be getting this payback after last month |
| 19:11.43 | Cair | when I tormented everyone with my thanksgiving feast |
| 19:12.16 | Osagasu | Someone asking about what a GM in WoW can do on the forums... |
| 19:12.26 | Cair | Yeah, thought that was funny |
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| 19:13.09 | shouryuu | ugh |
| 19:13.20 | zeeg | why aren't you all eating turkey! |
| 19:13.26 | Osagasu | I've already eaten |
| 19:13.35 | zeeg | excuses excuses! |
| 19:13.44 | Osagasu | Tell that to my gut. |
| 19:15.19 | net | any url where i could read about this turkey thing ? |
| 19:15.32 | Cair | it's Thanksgiving in the US, net |
| 19:15.54 | Rallion | I ate me some fine turkey corpse. |
| 19:15.56 | Cair | and turkey is the *typical* main dish |
| 19:15.58 | net | I don't know either about it~ |
| 19:16.11 | net | google will be my friend |
| 19:16.23 | Rallion | It goes back to when we Americans hadn't yet started screwing the natives over. |
| 19:16.28 | zeeg | net, go eat turkey! |
| 19:16.41 | Osagasu | I wanna be a GM. ;_____; |
| 19:16.49 | zeeg | turkey day is the day when all the fat americans get fatter :P |
| 19:16.58 | Osagasu | ~kill zeeg |
| 19:16.59 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited electron gun at zeeg |
| 19:17.00 | Rallion | and thanks, Cair...now I just need 12 more gold, no problem |
| 19:17.13 | Cair | Historically, it is when they celebrate the successful harvest etc and so on, giving thanks for their bounty over the year, preparing for the winter to come, etc |
| 19:17.21 | zeeg | ? |
| 19:17.25 | net | okai |
| 19:17.41 | Osagasu | now its just used as a chance for family to get together and watch American Football. |
| 19:17.47 | Rallion | hehe |
| 19:17.51 | Cair | And gorge on turkey |
| 19:17.55 | Osagasu | and ham. |
| 19:18.04 | Osagasu | and twice baked potatos... |
| 19:18.09 | Cair | Aye, ham being the second most common after turkey |
| 19:18.10 | Osagasu | and green beans... |
| 19:18.17 | Rallion | My friends are all pretty into the whole giving thanks part this year. Which is good. I guess. I like turkey. |
| 19:18.22 | Osagasu | and macaroni and cheese... |
| 19:18.27 | Osagasu | and Pumpkin Pie... |
| 19:18.33 | Osagasu | and... well, you get the idea |
| 19:18.37 | Cair | Mac & cheese for Thanksgiving? |
| 19:18.43 | Cair | different |
| 19:18.47 | Rallion | mac&cheese is good ALL the time. |
| 19:18.52 | zeeg | lol |
| 19:18.59 | Osagasu | That's just cause you're Canuck, Cair. |
| 19:19.06 | zeeg | we have a traditional thanksgiving meal |
| 19:19.23 | zeeg | turkey stuffing potatoes corn biscuits, then some fancy fruit desert |
| 19:19.26 | Cair | Well, I enjoyed my thanksgiving dinner last month |
| 19:20.17 | zeeg | you're a canadain!? |
| 19:20.36 | Rallion | my gf has a pound or so of leftover baked ziti from a birthday party last night, so...uh, yeah, I didn't actually eat that much, because that was some seriously good ziti |
| 19:20.50 | Rallion | and I will consume it. |
| 19:21.15 | zeeg | whats.. ziti |
| 19:21.18 | Rallion | pasta |
| 19:21.22 | zeeg | oh |
| 19:21.31 | zeeg | im running off like an hour of sleep |
| 19:21.33 | Rallion | lol |
| 19:21.50 | Rallion | we've all been there. |
| 19:22.13 | Cair | Turkey, bread stuffing, maple ginger glazed baby carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes (yams), rolls, green beans, corn, gravy, lemon meringue pie, pumpkin pie, apple pie, fresh banana bread, pickles, cranberry sauce with a double shot of grand marnier ... |
| 19:22.26 | zeeg | Rallion, this is turning into my normal day though |
| 19:22.27 | Rallion | I want me some lemon meringue. |
| 19:22.36 | zeeg | ive puti n like 12-15 hours of work a day for like the past 2 weeks :| |
| 19:22.43 | Rallion | oh that's rough |
| 19:22.56 | zeeg | hrmm |
| 19:22.57 | Rallion | I also wouldn't mind banana bread...mmm |
| 19:22.58 | Cair | and yes zeeg, I'm Canadian |
| 19:23.00 | zeeg | what should a "zone map" show? |
| 19:23.04 | zeeg | banana bread is yuummy |
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| 19:23.17 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/maps/arathi-basin-id3358/ |
| 19:23.19 | zeeg | specifically, this map |
| 19:23.21 | Rallion | we have some pumpkin pie here, but I'm really not a fan |
| 19:23.31 | zeeg | i like pumpkin pie |
| 19:24.35 | Rallion | I want everybody to know that if it wasn't Thanksgiving week, I'd likely have a new version of SVEdit out by next Wednesday or so. But it is. So, oh well. |
| 19:25.41 | Cair | excuses excuses |
| 19:26.01 | Rallion | Oh, if you knew me, you won't be surprised by an endless chain of excuses |
| 19:26.07 | Cair | ;) |
| 19:26.17 | zeeg | SVEdit? |
| 19:26.36 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4047 |
| 19:26.42 | Cair | Dev tool |
| 19:26.50 | zeeg | oh |
| 19:26.57 | Rallion | but within a few weeks or so I should hopefully have something that has a couple less bugs, a search feature, and works nicely with the many SV files that now exist instead of just loading one at a time |
| 19:26.57 | zeeg | interesting |
| 19:27.07 | zeeg | i like SCiTe |
| 19:27.11 | zeeg | SCiTE |
| 19:27.13 | zeeg | however youd o it |
| 19:27.14 | zeeg | lol |
| 19:31.13 | Osagasu | love how there's more marks at the Alliance graveyard than the Logging Camp. |
| 19:32.17 | Iriel | Ok.. off to do some kitchen stuff.. idle until later. |
| 19:32.26 | Cair | later Iriel :) |
| 19:40.07 | Cair | wb End |
| 19:40.15 | End | ty |
| 19:48.32 | kremonte | ugh thanksgiving woes |
| 19:48.42 | kremonte | the house smells SO GOOD but i can't eat for 2 hours |
| 19:48.45 | Cair | ate too much, did you? |
| 19:48.47 | Cair | ahhhhhh |
| 19:48.48 | Cair | heh |
| 19:49.01 | kremonte | turkey is one of my favorite foods =X |
| 19:49.31 | Cide | hmm, anyone has a rgb to hex function around? I deleted mine |
| 19:50.04 | kremonte | photoshop FTW |
| 19:50.11 | kremonte | i convert the rgb to 255 |
| 19:50.17 | kremonte | then let photoshop make it to hex =D |
| 19:50.32 | Cide | ... :P |
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| 19:50.38 | Cide | I mean in lua |
| 19:50.41 | Guillotine | hi hi :) |
| 19:50.49 | Cair | hey Guillotine :) |
| 19:51.01 | Cide | I think it was like letterTable[floor(val/16)] .. letterTable[mod(val, 16)] |
| 19:51.04 | Cide | but I'm not sure |
| 19:54.24 | zeeg | ugh sites so slow |
| 19:57.45 | kremonte | hihi Guillotine |
| 19:59.01 | AnduinLothar | there's one in sea ;) |
| 20:00.33 | Cide | doesn't help me :) |
| 20:01.39 | zeeg | AnduinLothar |
| 20:01.42 | zeeg | did you see this two headed beast? |
| 20:02.48 | AnduinLothar | format("%x",math.floor(255*color.opacity)); |
| 20:03.30 | *** join/#wowi-lounge AnduinLothar (n=KarlKFI@ip70-181-69-252.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 20:03.41 | AnduinLothar | change color.opacity to just a single color |
| 20:05.04 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Industrial (n=tom@hellsblade.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:06.53 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Industrial (n=tom@hellsblade.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:07.00 | *** join/#wowi-lounge KarlKFI (n=KarlKFI@ip70-181-69-252.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 20:09.28 | KarlKFI | function rgbToHex(c) return format("%x",math.floor(255*c)); end; rgbToHex(color.a)..rgbToHex(color.r)..rgbToHex(color.g)..rgbToHex(color.b) |
| 20:09.50 | Industrial | evil semicolons! |
| 20:09.51 | Industrial | :D |
| 20:11.49 | AnduinLothar | anyway, now i'm gone |
| 20:25.57 | Iriel | You actually need "%.2x" |
| 20:26.09 | Iriel | "%x" will screw you up if your color is < 16 |
| 20:28.00 | Iriel | return string.format("%.2x%.2x%.2x%.2x", 255*color.a, 255*color.r, 255*color.g, 255*color.b); |
| 20:28.54 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Trilian (n=Miranda@dyndsl-085-016-020-057.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 20:29.52 | Cide | thanks Iriel |
| 20:30.00 | Cide | I did it the long way but I changed |
| 20:31.06 | Iriel | if you want to be really paranoid you should do |
| 20:31.37 | Iriel | local function clipRGBA(x) return math.min(255, math.max(0, 255*x)) end |
| 20:32.07 | Iriel | then use string.format("%.2x%.2x%.2x%.2x", clipRGBA(color.a), clipRGBA(color.r), clipRGBA(color.g), clipRGBA(color.b)) |
| 20:32.08 | Cide | nah, I know the value range |
| 20:32.34 | Industrial | <spam>http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/</spam> |
| 20:32.39 | Industrial | <cheer /> |
| 20:36.07 | Cair | ~trout Industrial |
| 20:36.18 | Cair | bummer! |
| 20:36.58 | Cair | purl, trout is <action> slaps %name upside the head with a trout! |
| 20:36.59 | purl | ...but trout is already something else... |
| 20:37.12 | Cair | purl, trout? |
| 20:37.13 | purl | ACTION fills cair's pants with day-old trout |
| 20:37.19 | Cair | ewwwwww |
| 20:37.33 | Cair | purl, no trout is <action> slaps %name upside the head with a trout! |
| 20:37.35 | purl | Cair: okay |
| 20:37.42 | Cair | ~trout Industrial |
| 20:37.55 | Cair | grrrrrrr |
| 20:38.05 | Guillotine | purl doesnt like you today... yesterday it was me |
| 20:38.10 | Cair | so it seems |
| 20:39.12 | Osagasu | purl, no trout is <action> slaps %randnick around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:39.14 | purl | okay, Osagasu |
| 20:39.18 | Osagasu | ~trout |
| 20:39.20 | purl | ACTION slaps %randnick around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:39.24 | Osagasu | damn. |
| 20:39.24 | kergoth | first, it isnt %, its $ |
| 20:39.32 | Cair | duh, thanks kergoth |
| 20:39.32 | kergoth | second, commands a slightly different than normal factoids |
| 20:39.32 | kergoth | here |
| 20:39.48 | kergoth | purl: trout $nick is <action> slaps $nick around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:39.50 | purl | kergoth: okay |
| 20:39.51 | kergoth | now.. |
| 20:39.56 | kergoth | purl: literal trout (.*?) |
| 20:39.58 | purl | ACTION slaps kergoth around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:39.59 | kergoth | erm |
| 20:40.02 | kergoth | purl: literal CMD: trout (.*?) |
| 20:40.04 | purl | "cmd: trout (.*?)" is "($nick): <action> slaps $nick around a bit with a large trout!" |
| 20:40.10 | kergoth | see, thats the name of the factoid now |
| 20:40.12 | kergoth | a command |
| 20:40.15 | kergoth | with a regex |
| 20:40.20 | kergoth | "trout" wasnt affected |
| 20:40.21 | kergoth | ~trout |
| 20:40.25 | purl | ACTION slaps %randnick around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:40.29 | Osagasu | purl, no trout is <action> slaps $randnick around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:40.31 | purl | okay, Osagasu |
| 20:40.31 | kergoth | ~trout purl |
| 20:40.32 | purl | ACTION slaps kergoth around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:40.38 | Osagasu | ~trout |
| 20:40.39 | purl | ACTION slaps dukeku around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:40.44 | Osagasu | yay! |
| 20:40.45 | kergoth | ~trout Osagasu |
| 20:40.47 | purl | ACTION slaps kergoth around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:40.51 | kergoth | doh |
| 20:40.51 | Osagasu | ~trout me |
| 20:40.53 | purl | ACTION slaps osagasu around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:40.54 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.05 | Osagasu | j00 got PWNT! |
| 20:41.06 | kergoth | purl: trout $foo is <action> slaps $foo around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:41.07 | purl | ACTION slaps kergoth around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:41.19 | kergoth | purl: no, CMD: trout (.*?) is <action> slaps $1 around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:41.20 | purl | okay, kergoth |
| 20:41.23 | Osagasu | OWNED! |
| 20:41.23 | kergoth | ~trout Osagasu |
| 20:41.24 | purl | ACTION slaps $1 around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:41.27 | kergoth | bah |
| 20:41.33 | kergoth | cant remember how to access the capture |
| 20:41.37 | kergoth | purl: no, CMD: trout (.*?) is <action> slaps \1 around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:41.38 | purl | kergoth: okay |
| 20:41.40 | kergoth | ~trout Osagasu |
| 20:41.42 | purl | ACTION slaps 1 around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:41.45 | kergoth | i'll have to pester tim |
| 20:41.48 | Guillotine | its $nick |
| 20:41.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:41.51 | kergoth | no |
| 20:41.56 | kergoth | $nick ist he person typing the command |
| 20:41.59 | kergoth | not the person i'm asking it to trout |
| 20:42.05 | Guillotine | i know ;) |
| 20:42.13 | Guillotine | lol |
| 20:42.18 | kergoth | ~literal CMD: whaleslap (.*?) |
| 20:42.19 | purl | "cmd: whaleslap (.*?)" is "($tensai): I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap $tensai over the head with it....." |
| 20:42.24 | Osagasu | purl, literal CMD: kill |
| 20:42.32 | kergoth | tensai? wtf |
| 20:42.37 | Osagasu | purl, literal CMD: kill (.*?) |
| 20:42.38 | purl | "cmd: kill (.*?)" is "($1): <action> shoots a (hyper-charged|charged|super-inverse|inverse|excited|magneto-ionized|ionized| |) (flux|anti-|pseudo| |)(neutron|meson|neutrino|quark|proton|electron|tachyon|graviton|photon|positrino) gun at $1" |
| 20:42.49 | Osagasu | its $1... |
| 20:42.53 | kergoth | no, it isnt |
| 20:42.55 | kergoth | i just tried that |
| 20:42.59 | kergoth | and whaleslap works too, with $tensai |
| 20:43.01 | Osagasu | it says $1 right there! |
| 20:43.09 | kergoth | yes, and it says otherwise a few lines above it. |
| 20:43.11 | Guillotine | yes it is. if you do ($1): first |
| 20:43.13 | kergoth | no |
| 20:43.48 | Cair | doesn't matter guys, I was just goofing around |
| 20:43.52 | Guillotine | purl: no, CMD: trout (.*?) is ($1): <action> slaps($1) around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:43.54 | purl | Guillotine: okay |
| 20:44.02 | Guillotine | ~trout Kergoth |
| 20:44.04 | purl | ACTION slaps(Kergoth) around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:44.09 | Guillotine | close |
| 20:44.11 | kergoth | right, thats what i was thinking |
| 20:44.13 | kergoth | it isnt $1 |
| 20:44.14 | Osagasu | •purl• no, CMD: trout (.*?) is ($1): <action> slaps ($1 around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:44.17 | kergoth | its whatever you prefix the command with |
| 20:44.20 | Osagasu | purl, no, CMD: trout (.*?) is ($1): <action> slaps $1 around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:44.21 | purl | okay, Osagasu |
| 20:44.27 | Osagasu | ~slap kergoth |
| 20:44.28 | purl | ACTION slaps kergoth, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:44.31 | Cide | hmm, trying to replace the player name in chat.. using this: string.gsub(msg, "|Hplayer:.-|h%[([%w]+)%]", "|c00" .. CT_RGBToHex(0.3, 0.3, 1) .. "%1|r") |
| 20:44.35 | Osagasu | ~trout kergoth |
| 20:44.36 | purl | ACTION slaps kergoth around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:44.40 | kergoth | purl: no, CMD: trout (.*?) is ($foo): <action> slaps $foo around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:44.42 | purl | kergoth: okay |
| 20:44.45 | kergoth | ~trout Osagasu |
| 20:44.47 | purl | ACTION slaps Osagasu around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:44.50 | Cide | for some reason, it removes the [] around the name.. any idea why? |
| 20:44.51 | Guillotine | lol |
| 20:44.53 | Osagasu | ~trout cair |
| 20:44.54 | purl | ACTION slaps cair around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:44.54 | kergoth | sorry, cair, no more spam |
| 20:45.10 | Cair | no problem, thanks for fixing it for me guys |
| 20:45.22 | Guillotine | so guys, i have a real question. If im watching the chat log for a failed cast (due to facing the wrong way) how would i tell what spell it is that failed? |
| 20:45.29 | Osagasu | Its a wonderful thing., geeks and their toys |
| 20:45.53 | Cide | any ideas as to why that happens? |
| 20:46.21 | Cide | oh, nvm |
| 20:46.21 | Cide | I suck |
| 20:48.03 | Guillotine | sry. too tempting |
| 20:48.32 | Cair | You figured it out Cide? |
| 20:50.17 | Cide | yeah |
| 20:50.20 | Cair | cool |
| 20:50.31 | Cide | :) |
| 20:50.49 | Guillotine | are their any params in SPELLCAST_FAILED event? like why it failed? |
| 20:50.59 | Guillotine | or what spell failed? |
| 20:51.25 | Cide | not sure, don't think so though |
| 20:51.53 | Guillotine | nope |
| 20:52.06 | Guillotine | so how can I catch a spell that failed due to facing the wrong direction? |
| 20:54.24 | Cair | don't face the wrong way :p |
| 20:54.46 | Guillotine | ok. heres what i want to do: When you cast a spell and it fails with the message "Target needs to be in front of you" it ques that spell. Then, you can press the bound key to do a 180 and cast that spell |
| 20:55.14 | Guillotine | all i need help doing is catching the "Target needs to be in front of you" and telling WHICH spell failed |
| 20:55.38 | Guillotine | but the only way I can figure out to do that is to take over the CastSpell function which doesn't sound too good |
| 20:57.56 | Guillotine | anyone have any ideas? |
| 21:03.59 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Flameseeker (n=chatzill@ottawa-hs-206-191-33-187.d-ip.magma.ca) |
| 21:05.28 | Cair | hi Flameseeker |
| 21:05.33 | Flameseeker | howdy |
| 21:06.06 | Industrial | Flameseeker: you should meet this ragnaros dude |
| 21:06.12 | Flameseeker | just saw this on the forums, thought I'd dropin ;) |
| 21:06.25 | Cair | You're more than welcome to hang out :) |
| 21:06.56 | Cair | It's pretty quiet today, with it being Thanksgiving in the US and all |
| 21:07.19 | Flameseeker | ya, I'm canadian so had my turkey last month |
| 21:07.25 | Cair | same here |
| 21:07.53 | Cair | where are you? |
| 21:08.09 | Osagasu | poor canucks... |
| 21:08.52 | Flameseeker | ottawa, and its snowing out today :( darn winter... |
| 21:09.01 | Cair | ROFL |
| 21:09.05 | Cair | Serious? |
| 21:09.27 | Cair | about your location that is, not the weather |
| 21:09.54 | Flameseeker | of course ;) |
| 21:10.05 | Cair | I'm out in Kanata |
| 21:10.31 | Guillotine | I'm in Cali. its hot outside |
| 21:10.35 | Guillotine | :P |
| 21:10.42 | Cair | ~trout Guillotine |
| 21:10.43 | purl | ACTION slaps Guillotine around a bit with a large trout! |
| 21:10.51 | Flameseeker | oh nice, I'm just down from Carleton ;) |
| 21:10.52 | Guillotine | ~thank Cair |
| 21:10.52 | purl | sure thing, Guillotine |
| 21:11.41 | Cair | It's been interesting since I started the channel up, discovering there are a fair few that are close, which is unusual |
| 21:11.48 | Cair | Satrina is here in Ottawa too |
| 21:12.02 | Guillotine | I went to ottowa once... |
| 21:12.13 | Guillotine | when I was 9 |
| 21:12.20 | Cair | and cladhaire is just across the border in Syracus |
| 21:12.38 | Flameseeker | ah neat lol, maybe its a blizzard conspiracy where only a select few see the post :) |
| 21:12.47 | Cair | heh |
| 21:12.56 | Guillotine | na. theres lots of people here |
| 21:13.41 | Guillotine | but im the best of them |
| 21:14.51 | Guillotine | my doctor says I'm half crazy |
| 21:14.55 | Guillotine | i like to think I'm half sane |
| 21:15.16 | Cair | I think it'd be safe to say you are a half-wit :p |
| 21:15.31 | Guillotine | better than a no-wit... |
| 21:15.45 | Cair | oh yeah ... we abuse each other a lot around here, so if you can't take it, don't dish it out |
| 21:16.14 | Cair | just a friendly forewarning |
| 21:16.47 | Flameseeker | np, keeps chat more interesting anywya |
| 21:16.49 | Guillotine | I'll give you a cookie if you type ~trout Cair |
| 21:17.16 | Cair | ~whale Guillotine |
| 21:17.23 | Guillotine | ~whaleslap Cair |
| 21:17.24 | purl | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap Cair over the head with it..... |
| 21:17.34 | Cair | gd it purl hates me today! |
| 21:25.07 | Guillotine | what does ^%s mean? |
| 21:25.17 | Guillotine | i see it in tons of addons |
| 21:25.29 | Guillotine | like local s,e,etype,event = string.find(msg, "^%s*[+]([^%s]+)%s+(.*)$"); |
| 21:25.48 | Iriel | ^ - beginning of string |
| 21:25.53 | Iriel | %s - whitespace |
| 21:26.15 | Iriel | So ^%s* is at the start of the string, with any amount of whitespace |
| 21:26.27 | Guillotine | ahhh |
| 21:26.32 | Guillotine | ty iriel :) |
| 21:28.18 | Guillotine | iriel, maybe you can help me with this as it is kind of like one of your addons (aftercast): all i need help doing is catching the "Target needs to be in front of you" and telling WHICH spell failed |
| 21:28.58 | Guillotine | i couldnt find any events that returned that as an arg |
| 21:29.41 | Iriel | They dont |
| 21:29.44 | Iriel | You need this... |
| 21:30.03 | Iriel | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Detecting_Instant_Cast_Spells |
| 21:32.20 | Guillotine | ty :D |
| 21:37.06 | Guillotine | hmm... thats not exactly what I need. That still does not return the reason the spell failed. I ONLY want to take action if the spell failed due to facing the wrong direction |
| 21:37.14 | Osagasu | ~sheep |
| 21:37.15 | purl | methinks sheep is at #tuxboxproject |
| 21:37.21 | Osagasu | o.o |
| 21:39.05 | Iriel | Hm, I have to say Aftercast doesn't really care that much about the reason for failure |
| 21:39.28 | Iriel | I take it SPELLCAST_FAILED didn't help? |
| 21:39.35 | Guillotine | so you don't know how to do it? :( |
| 21:39.39 | Guillotine | nope |
| 21:39.47 | Guillotine | SPELLCAST_FAILED returns no args |
| 21:39.50 | Iriel | i know 90% of the pieces you'd need |
| 21:39.59 | Iriel | We just have to find the last one |
| 21:40.36 | Iriel | My guess is it's one of SYSMSG or UI_ERROR_MESSAGE |
| 21:40.38 | Guillotine | my idea was basically to hook all the spellcast functions and add the spell cast to a variable. When i recieve that error message, itll just look at the last spell cast and assume that is the one |
| 21:40.57 | Iriel | probably the latter |
| 21:41.14 | Iriel | the message is arg1 |
| 21:41.55 | Guillotine | ya, but then we don't know what spell it is that caused that error message |
| 21:42.40 | Iriel | It was the last one cast |
| 21:42.47 | Guillotine | right. but how do we find that? |
| 21:43.01 | Guillotine | besides hooking every spellcast function? |
| 21:43.06 | Iriel | You're going to have to keep track of (1) The spell cast fuctions (See the HOWTO), spell status (like AfterCast) and then that message |
| 21:43.14 | Iriel | you have to hook them |
| 21:43.18 | Iriel | ugly I know |
| 21:43.38 | zeeg | wewt |
| 21:43.38 | zeeg | Cair |
| 21:43.40 | Guillotine | ug. ok |
| 21:43.45 | zeeg | steady at 139 load :D |
| 21:43.45 | zeeg | top - 13:43:32 up 43 days, 5:43, 9 users, load average: 137.90, 139.26, 127.71 |
| 21:43.45 | zeeg | Tasks: 420 total, 1 running, 419 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie |
| 21:43.46 | zeeg | lol |
| 21:44.00 | Cair | okay ... |
| 21:44.05 | Guillotine | huh? |
| 21:44.05 | Iriel | what are you doing to that poor machine? |
| 21:44.11 | Iriel | Disk/NFS failure? |
| 21:44.13 | zeeg | Iriel, thats wowguru's main box :| |
| 21:44.41 | zeeg | 2nd server's online, we were originaly just going to put files on it (patches/movies) but we may completely movie ui/movie sections to it to reduce httpd stress on the main machine |
| 21:45.17 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Irish (n=irishbru@ip68-110-153-94.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 21:45.27 | Cair | hi Irish |
| 21:46.50 | Iriel | Looks like it's got plenty of work to do. |
| 21:47.09 | Iriel | What's the CPU utilization like? |
| 21:47.16 | Iriel | is it mostly CPU or I/O bound? |
| 21:47.33 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Irish (n=irishbru@ip68-110-153-94.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 21:49.30 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Irishbruin (n=Irishbru@ip68-110-153-94.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 21:49.58 | Cair | hi again, Irishbruin |
| 21:50.57 | Irishbruin | Hiya Cair..Hope you dont mind me hanging :P |
| 21:50.58 | zeeg | ya mostly cpu |
| 21:51.06 | Cair | nope, not at all :) |
| 21:51.29 | zeeg | http://pastebin.com/437503 |
| 21:51.29 | zeeg | :| |
| 21:56.43 | Cair | So remind me, since I can't remember ... which games are on today? |
| 21:56.55 | Cair | Super Bowl & Rose Bowl? or?? |
| 21:57.13 | Cair | <== not a big football fan |
| 21:58.55 | Irishbruin | Just Thanksgiving Classics NFL games Atlanta vs Detroit and Dallas vs Denver |
| 21:59.09 | Cair | oh, okay |
| 22:00.18 | zeeg | isnt Super Bowl like.. next year? :| |
| 22:02.45 | Irishbruin | Superbowl XL Februaru 5 2006 (72 days 6 hrs 57 min ) but I'm not counting :P |
| 22:03.01 | zeeg | i should go to the superbowl |
| 22:03.07 | zeeg | that'd be fun |
| 22:03.12 | zeeg | tickets wouldnt be sold out yet would they? :P |
| 22:03.16 | zeeg | if you can order em yet.. |
| 22:04.02 | Irishbruin | hard to say Ill bet you could find them somewhere they may cost a penny or two |
| 22:04.52 | zeeg | HOLY SHIT |
| 22:05.05 | zeeg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.09 | zeeg | i dont like football enough to do that |
| 22:05.10 | zeeg | lol |
| 22:05.44 | Irishbruin | haha..yea not when you can watch the same game on TV or a local bar |
| 22:06.12 | Cair | You serious?!?! 2k for a ticket to a football game? |
| 22:06.50 | Cair | hahahahhahahahahaha, I knew americans were all nuts, but that just confirms it beyond any shadow of a doubt |
| 22:09.41 | zeeg | canadians are more nuts! |
| 22:09.44 | zeeg | they live in igloos! |
| 22:10.11 | zeeg | IGLOOS I SAY |
| 22:10.13 | zeeg | my boss lives in canada |
| 22:10.18 | zeeg | in an igloo i bert |
| 22:10.19 | zeeg | *bet |
| 22:10.31 | Guillotine | lol |
| 22:10.33 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 22:10.52 | zeeg | Guillotine, you live in an igloo too? |
| 22:10.55 | zeeg | or are you american? |
| 22:10.56 | zeeg | see |
| 22:11.01 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Eraphine|Disco (n=Eraphine@brenna.human.cornell.edu) |
| 22:11.03 | Irishbruin | Nuts "A"...If you say so "A"...Like lets play more hockey "A"....and "A" Drink more Beer "A"...LOL jk jk jk |
| 22:11.31 | zeeg | Canadians live in igloos, Africans live in Tree houses, South Americans live in.. teepee's.. uhh europe people live in boats, china people live in cardboard boxes, and then there's u |
| 22:11.31 | zeeg | :P |
| 22:11.51 | zeeg | *us |
| 22:11.59 | zeeg | oh and scottish people, they have the castles |
| 22:12.30 | Cair | zeeg: yeah, and I'm connected to the intraweb using the electricity I'm generating from my fire that is using whale blubber as fuel while I sew my clothes out of seal skin |
| 22:12.49 | zeeg | does africa have electiricity? |
| 22:12.59 | zeeg | (serious question) |
| 22:13.02 | Guillotine | yes |
| 22:13.06 | zeeg | dont they all live in the rian forest or something tho |
| 22:13.06 | Cair | duh |
| 22:13.06 | zeeg | :p |
| 22:13.07 | Cair | yes |
| 22:13.17 | zeeg | ive never seen any african people on the internet.. that are in africa |
| 22:13.25 | Guillotine | zeeg: generalizing, one country at a time |
| 22:13.31 | Guillotine | that should be your sig :D |
| 22:13.31 | zeeg | I want to move to Europe |
| 22:13.35 | zeeg | US is full of fat people |
| 22:13.41 | Guillotine | ./agree |
| 22:13.47 | Guillotine | except me |
| 22:13.50 | zeeg | although my lady friend is like a twig |
| 22:13.54 | zeeg | i play ddr, im skinny |
| 22:14.01 | zeeg | Cair, its a proven fact.. |
| 22:14.09 | zeeg | i saw it on tv, and tv doesnt lie |
| 22:14.16 | Cair | uh huh |
| 22:14.52 | Guillotine | well i read it on the intraweb |
| 22:16.10 | zeeg | see its true |
| 22:16.12 | zeeg | and uhh |
| 22:16.22 | zeeg | Igloos come from snow, and Canada has snow, so you MUST live in an igloo |
| 22:16.45 | Cair | I do hope you are joking around and aren't *actually* as stupid as you sometimes act in the channels :p |
| 22:16.52 | zeeg | I'm a genius |
| 22:16.56 | zeeg | IRC is an escape |
| 22:17.12 | zeeg | its a break from the "serious" work stuff I have to do + drama in life |
| 22:18.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ReignStorm (n=Reign@CPE-70-92-246-76.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 22:19.10 | Cair | hi Vizir |
| 22:19.22 | Vizir | hey |
| 22:19.35 | Vizir | just came across this in the interface forums :) |
| 22:20.01 | Cair | you're more than welcome to hang out. it's quiet today though, US thanksgiving and all |
| 22:20.08 | Vizir | yep. and ty |
| 22:21.34 | zeeg | TURKEY DAY |
| 22:21.44 | zeeg | i wish i wasnt banned from the forums |
| 22:21.59 | Guillotine | i don't |
| 22:22.09 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Nulkris (n=Nulkris@CPE-144-137-62-111.vic.bigpond.net.au) |
| 22:22.09 | Cair | stop breaking the rules and you wouldn't be banned all the time |
| 22:22.13 | Guillotine | the forums are bad enough without you zeeg |
| 22:22.32 | zeeg | im perma banned cair |
| 22:22.34 | zeeg | i didnt break a rule |
| 22:22.35 | Cair | I'm sorry zeeg, but I can't find it in myself to feel sorry for you when you bring it on yourself all the time |
| 22:22.42 | zeeg | i broke a rule like twice |
| 22:22.45 | zeeg | the rest were bs bans |
| 22:22.46 | zeeg | :| |
| 22:22.54 | Vizir | what rule was it? |
| 22:22.54 | Cair | uh hih |
| 22:22.54 | zeeg | the rest being like 6 more bans |
| 22:22.56 | Cair | huh* |
| 22:23.03 | zeeg | unreleased content posting |
| 22:23.08 | Vizir | ouch |
| 22:23.10 | zeeg | 4th of july was the last time i did that, that one relaly pissed em off though |
| 22:23.11 | zeeg | :P |
| 22:23.30 | Vizir | what did you post? |
| 22:23.57 | zeeg | BWL map/items.. when BWL wasnt available on test |
| 22:23.57 | Cair | and as I said, I can't feel sorry for you, much as you whine and bemoan, since you bring (brought) it on yourself |
| 22:24.01 | Vizir | dire maul or something which is out already? |
| 22:24.04 | Vizir | o |
| 22:24.05 | zeeg | honestly if i wanted to post i could |
| 22:24.06 | Vizir | hehe |
| 22:24.08 | zeeg | i have more than one account |
| 22:24.10 | zeeg | :| |
| 22:24.22 | zeeg | Vizir, after that though anything i linked to was "released" technically |
| 22:24.24 | Osagasu | VIVE LE ZEEG! |
| 22:24.27 | zeeg | as GMs had them in game |
| 22:24.27 | Osagasu | ;) |
| 22:24.29 | zeeg | and people saw them |
| 22:24.34 | zeeg | so they cant blame anyone but themselves |
| 22:24.42 | zeeg | here's the thing that got me perma banned |
| 22:25.28 | zeeg | Cair, i had ahn'qiraj maps up 2 weeks ago if its any conselation |
| 22:25.32 | zeeg | :D |
| 22:26.10 | Guillotine | omg! they unveiled the new Alliance race! go to the expansion page and go to townhall. you'll notice that there are now 2 races listed there. You'll never guess who won out! |
| 22:26.40 | zeeg | you best not be lieing |
| 22:26.40 | zeeg | :p |
| 22:26.46 | zeeg | jerk! |
| 22:26.53 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/forors-fabled-steed-id20221/ |
| 22:26.55 | Guillotine | did you see it? |
| 22:26.59 | zeeg | its not there.. |
| 22:27.22 | Guillotine | new racial abilities: Inquire, Query, Ask |
| 22:27.26 | Cair | well, I think you need to make up your mind ... you always go on about how you don't care what Blizz says or does, because you "beat them", yadda yadda ... then you turn around and cry when they ban you from the forums and send you letters telling you to take unreleased content back off your sites ... if you want to play with their blessing then you need to play by their rules, the same as we do ... if you don't |
| 22:27.54 | zeeg | Cair, I have been playing by their rules |
| 22:28.02 | zeeg | since july 4th i played by their rules |
| 22:28.06 | zeeg | cept the ahn'qiraj maps |
| 22:28.15 | Cair | ... |
| 22:28.20 | zeeg | but that was after they perma banned me and they had already released a map sketch at blizzcon |
| 22:28.21 | Guillotine | rofl. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=5943970&p=1&tmp=1#post5943970 |
| 22:28.52 | zeeg | who the fuck is Farzan? |
| 22:30.01 | Osagasu | no idea. |
| 22:34.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=Matt@adsl-1-74-197.lft.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:35.12 | Tem | What happens if you have an anonymous frame with child elements defined with name="$parentName"? |
| 22:35.34 | Cair | hey Tem :) |
| 22:35.50 | Tem | hey cair |
| 22:35.56 | Cair | :) |
| 22:35.57 | Tem | how is everyone today? |
| 22:37.58 | Tem | http://wow.pastebin.com/437546 |
| 22:39.03 | Cair | doing pretty well here, Tem, yourself? |
| 22:39.58 | Tem | very full |
| 22:40.03 | Cair | heh |
| 22:40.12 | Tem | but it's a good full :) |
| 22:40.17 | Cair | cool |
| 22:59.44 | *** join/#wowi-lounge PsychicMasta (i=PsychicM@72.140.162.29) |
| 23:00.15 | PsychicMasta | Hey can anyone help me out with some macro scripts? I'm having a bit of trouble... |
| 23:00.47 | Cair | you can try asking your question, but most folks aren't actually here, they are just kinda idling in the channel |
| 23:00.54 | Cair | most are off eating turkey dinner, etc |
| 23:01.17 | Cair | go ahead and ask though |
| 23:01.17 | PsychicMasta | Would you be able to help me? |
| 23:01.27 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Deph (n=Depherio@67.189.88.161) |
| 23:01.27 | Cair | nope this chickie, sorry |
| 23:01.41 | PsychicMasta | Alright well... |
| 23:01.42 | Cair | try asking though, someone will probably help you sooner or later |
| 23:01.46 | Osagasu | I'm no coder, sorry |
| 23:01.50 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Deph (n=Depherio@67.189.88.161) |
| 23:02.19 | PsychicMasta | I've been trying to create a macro to switch from any shapeshifting form back to human form, and I've been having some trouble accessing an array value... |
| 23:02.25 | PsychicMasta | The script is: /script i=GetShapeshiftFormInfo; l={Bear,Aquatic,Cat}; CastSpellByName("l[i] Form") |
| 23:02.40 | PsychicMasta | Is today Thanksgiving in the US, by the way? |
| 23:02.46 | Cair | aye it is |
| 23:03.26 | Cair | hence the warning that most are idle |
| 23:03.50 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Depherios (n=deph@67.189.88.161) |
| 23:29.00 | Depherios | Lol! on Gamespot, the Warcraft II demo posted ion Aug 1, 1997 is one of their most popular current demos |
| 23:30.59 | pagefault | wee |
| 23:33.48 | Osagasu | whatever works |
| 23:33.57 | pagefault | time to test out the test realm |
| 23:34.07 | Depherios | just logging onto the test realm now |
| 23:34.08 | pagefault | I thought of a good build I want to try :) |
| 23:34.33 | Depherios | XD -- I actually want to TEST a few things |
| 23:34.46 | pagefault | hehe |
| 23:34.50 | pagefault | I use it to test builds free of charge |
| 23:34.59 | Depherios | I.E mainly I want to find out how much is going to break, and see about bugging these people XD |
| 23:35.00 | pagefault | since they mess with the talents |
| 23:35.02 | Legorol | EU test realm queue is not as bad as yesterday.. only 40 minutes instead of 60 :D |
| 23:35.13 | Depherios | yeah I will when I'm actually sixty |
| 23:35.31 | Depherios | as it is, my highest level is 33 |
| 23:35.33 | Depherios | lol |
| 23:35.44 | Depherios | I'll still probably respec for kicks though |
| 23:35.45 | Legorol | so? on the EU PvE test server we get level 1s :-) |
| 23:35.50 | Depherios | can't beat free |
| 23:35.56 | Legorol | it's really good, the masses avoid that server.. |
| 23:36.01 | pagefault | warlocks got a buff I didn't see |
| 23:36.01 | Legorol | no queue or anything, i can log in there to test addons |
| 23:36.05 | pagefault | searing pain got dmg increased |
| 23:36.06 | Depherios | yeah, the PvE server is being avoided XD |
| 23:36.24 | Depherios | oh yay......... WoW crashed, that's gotta be a good sign |
| 23:36.34 | Legorol | it's a really neat idea, i think they won't admit it but they did the EU PvE server for AddOn coders ;-) normal players avoid it like a plague |
| 23:36.56 | pagefault | hehe |
| 23:36.58 | pagefault | using the US one here |
| 23:38.43 | Depherios | just made a level one to drop onto the PvE for testing, since the PvP crashed, lol |
| 23:38.55 | Depherios | ... hope my addons aren't making wow THAT bad XD |
| 23:39.05 | Legorol | Depherios, you in EU too? |
| 23:39.14 | Depherios | naw |
| 23:39.18 | pagefault | haha nice |
| 23:39.22 | pagefault | dreadstead is only 100 mana |
| 23:39.27 | Depherios | just sleep like I am, lol |
| 23:39.32 | Depherios | yup |
| 23:39.36 | Depherios | lol |
| 23:39.50 | Depherios | now that I dropped my addons into the Test Realm, the game won't even load |
| 23:40.06 | End | my ui for the most part works |
| 23:40.41 | End | I need the test realm to update though so I can fix some GetScale calls though :P |
| 23:41.01 | Depherios | OH GOD NO WONDER |
| 23:41.07 | End | (well, I suppose that's really client, but same idea) |
| 23:41.11 | Depherios | I forgot to carry over my addons list, it ran ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of them |
| 23:41.18 | End | heh |
| 23:41.25 | End | you have a lot or something? |
| 23:41.47 | Cair | lol |
| 23:42.48 | Cair | hey PsychicMasta ... try asking now, since some folks are here atm |
| 23:44.20 | Depherios | okay, yeah, WoW runs fine if I kill everything, lol |
| 23:44.43 | Depherios | not everything, but... make it so I'm not RUNNING... EVERYTHING |
| 23:50.13 | Depherios | Whoop BetterKeyBindings is definitely broken |
