| 00:00.16 | AnduinLothar | i come up with so many ideas.. so little time |
| 00:00.49 | AnduinLothar | cant wait till i'm a boss... and can delegate but code if i want |
| 00:01.15 | AnduinLothar | too bad that means more politics.. |
| 00:01.28 | AnduinLothar | bleh, code... |
| 00:02.28 | AnduinLothar | so hot in here. i have a 25" fan pointed at my computers.. |
| 00:05.03 | AnduinLothar | ug... with all these debugs in the hooks i'm wishing i could use Sea.io.dprint lol |
| 00:05.28 | AnduinLothar | another large chunk of code.. |
| 00:05.54 | AnduinLothar | normal prints are dandy to use DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage for... |
| 00:06.14 | AnduinLothar | but when you have an unknown quantity of unknown type variables... |
| 00:06.34 | AnduinLothar | only called when X var is defined.. |
| 00:07.44 | AnduinLothar | Sea.io.dprint("SEA_HOOKS_DEBUG", "|cFFFF0000SeaHooks Error: detected ", numHideHooks, " 'hide' hooks for '", name, "', one of which has hidden another.") would be a lot easier/cleaner than 8 lines of if statements |
| 00:08.40 | AnduinLothar | hmmm i could require a diff lib for debug... |
| 00:09.06 | AnduinLothar | so that people could distibute w/o debug |
| 00:09.44 | AnduinLothar | that would make things cleaner.. |
| 00:10.42 | AnduinLothar | and cut the function size in half.. |
| 00:11.00 | AnduinLothar | sounds efficient to me... peopel will prolly complain tho |
| 00:12.09 | futrtrubl | quite a monologue there ;'] |
| 00:12.35 | AnduinLothar | i do that a lot |
| 00:12.45 | AnduinLothar | happens when u spend too much time by urself |
| 00:14.28 | AnduinLothar | shuts* |
| 00:14.32 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 00:14.33 | Cair | LOL |
| 00:14.56 | AnduinLothar | i can see her falling out of her chair.. |
| 00:14.58 | Cair | *that* was amusing, Karl :p |
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| 00:31.53 | Kiliek | (i suppose that can be generaqlized cancel a buff after casting it) |
| 00:31.56 | Kiliek | err |
| 00:32.11 | Kiliek | is it possible to cancel a buff right after you cast it |
| 00:32.25 | Kiliek | (specifically trying stoneform) |
| 00:32.57 | Codayus | Hmm, that depends on whether cancelling a buff takes a hardware event, I'd guess. |
| 00:33.07 | Kiliek | Yeah that's what I was thinking too. |
| 00:33.29 | Codayus | If it does, you could do something AutoBuff-ish...hook the movement keys. |
| 00:33.39 | Codayus | Sort of an AutoUnBuff mod, I guess. :-) |
| 00:34.58 | Kiliek | ok ! |
| 00:35.02 | Kiliek | i'll cheeck that out |
| 00:35.07 | Kiliek | that's a good lead at least <3 |
| 00:35.58 | Codayus | Well, first step would probably be to test if removing buffs actually *does* take a hardware event, if you haven't tested... |
| 00:36.22 | Codayus | In fact, I'll just test that... |
| 00:41.43 | Codayus | Doesn't look like it does, actually. |
| 00:45.06 | AnduinLothar | canceling does not |
| 00:45.40 | AnduinLothar | casting does |
| 00:46.02 | AnduinLothar | CancelPlayerBuff(id) |
| 00:46.24 | AnduinLothar | CancilUnitBuff("player", id) |
| 00:46.27 | AnduinLothar | same thing |
| 00:46.34 | AnduinLothar | with an 'e' anywya |
| 01:02.42 | Cair | How many "Lord of the Rings" fans here? |
| 01:03.03 | AnduinLothar | i |
| 01:03.40 | Cair | If you ever get the chance, pick up "Bord of the Rings" by the Harvard Lampoon ... I'm killing myself laughing here |
| 01:03.43 | Cair | what a roit |
| 01:03.46 | Cair | riot* |
| 01:03.53 | AnduinLothar | film? |
| 01:04.05 | Cair | book |
| 01:04.05 | Cair | it's hilarious |
| 01:04.05 | AnduinLothar | book? |
| 01:04.16 | Cair | book |
| 01:04.40 | AnduinLothar | http://www.stotfoldscouts.org.uk/mountlongdon/activity/videos/lord/lord.htm |
| 01:05.24 | AnduinLothar | http://www.stotfoldscouts.org.uk/mountlongdon/activity/videos/lord/cdrom/video.htm |
| 01:05.45 | AnduinLothar | haven't watched, have no idea if funny |
| 01:05.57 | Cair | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0451452615/104-5313118-9881525?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance |
| 01:06.31 | AnduinLothar | oh oops... who was asking about hyperlinks a while back.. |
| 01:06.31 | kergoth | guh |
| 01:06.40 | kergoth | dc'd and cant reconnect when we're about to kill wyrm in brs |
| 01:06.42 | kergoth | :( |
| 01:06.42 | Kiliek | thanks by the way |
| 01:06.43 | Kiliek | was afk |
| 01:06.46 | Kiliek | appreciate that |
| 01:06.47 | AnduinLothar | Sea.util.makeHyperlink |
| 01:06.50 | Kiliek | yeah i got disconnected too |
| 01:06.54 | Kiliek | proudmoore |
| 01:07.58 | kergoth | suramar here |
| 01:07.59 | kergoth | sigh |
| 01:10.06 | Kiliek | and again |
| 01:10.18 | kergoth | www.worldofwarcraft.com is down too, seemingly |
| 01:10.28 | kergoth | ~bad blizzard |
| 01:10.30 | purl | Bad blizzard, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 01:10.59 | Kiliek | hehe |
| 01:11.02 | Kiliek | may not be their fault |
| 01:11.06 | Kiliek | could be a data center level issue |
| 01:11.19 | kergoth | i know, i just like blaming blizzard |
| 01:11.31 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:11.41 | Kiliek | ahhaa |
| 01:12.30 | Kiliek | traceroute to my server seems to die on a savvis link |
| 01:12.47 | Kiliek | dunno if that's a blocked reply though or an actual network issues =x |
| 01:14.22 | kergoth | traceroute to the us logon server from here times out around attens.net |
| 01:14.24 | kergoth | meh |
| 01:14.36 | Kiliek | :/ |
| 01:14.53 | kergoth | guess i could .. *gasp* .. be productive or something |
| 01:14.57 | kergoth | but i'd at least like to finish this run :P |
| 01:17.42 | Kiliek | haha |
| 01:17.45 | Kiliek | we're in the middle of bwl |
| 01:17.47 | Kiliek | kinda lame |
| 01:19.47 | AnduinLothar | there isn't a + to undead weapon damage is there? |
| 01:19.49 | AnduinLothar | enchant* |
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| 01:22.05 | ToastTheif | how do I make xchat auto join servers/channels upon start up? |
| 01:24.12 | *** part/#wowi-lounge ToastTheif (i=ToastThe@24-177-151-62.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
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| 01:24.26 | AnduinLothar | add them to the serverlist |
| 01:24.38 | AnduinLothar | and click the toggle button for autojoin |
| 01:24.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ToastTheif (i=ToastThe@24-177-151-62.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
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| 01:25.28 | kergoth | Kiliek: mine's back up :) |
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| 01:25.47 | ToastTheif | mmm |
| 01:25.49 | ToastTheif | I win |
| 01:48.09 | kergoth | 3382ms lag |
| 01:48.16 | kergoth | i didnt see anything until the entire group was dead |
| 02:04.14 | Veight` | its many servers! :( |
| 02:06.43 | Cair | lalala, bored |
| 02:08.17 | AnduinLothar | mmhmm |
| 02:08.19 | AnduinLothar | tired |
| 02:21.31 | Nomad_Wanderer | I have a question about table.sort(), does it return anything? do I have to do: |
| 02:21.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | sortedTable=table.sort(unsortedtable); |
| 02:21.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | or just table.sort(table); |
| 02:22.18 | cladhaire | Just table.sort(table) |
| 02:22.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | Looking at the lua docs, I think its the second./ |
| 02:22.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | yep.. thanks! |
| 02:22.42 | cladhaire | sorry it took so long.. my laptop was closed =) |
| 02:23.35 | AnduinLothar | sorts in place by value |
| 02:24.01 | Parak | ·_. |
| 02:29.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | question about local vars, they only survive for the functions life right? once the function is done, the local dies? |
| 02:29.56 | cladhaire | correct.. then it gets GC'd in the next cycle |
| 02:30.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | cool. |
| 02:30.48 | Nomad_Wanderer | Another question.. Do I have to worry about multiple threads (not the right word).. I have a program that responds to whispers after doing some calculations.. if two people whisper me at the same time... |
| 02:31.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is there a chance they interdere with each other? |
| 02:31.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | interfere |
| 02:31.34 | cladhaire | No its linear |
| 02:31.47 | Nomad_Wanderer | Okay.. thanks |
| 02:31.54 | cladhaire | You can't predict what order events come in tho.. we just get them as they're delivered. |
| 02:32.40 | Nomad_Wanderer | k.. thanks again! |
| 02:32.43 | cladhaire | but thats rather tangential =) |
| 02:33.51 | Stylpe | You said you are bored? |
| 02:33.51 | Nomad_Wanderer | purl, tangential? |
| 02:34.05 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yep, me neither. |
| 02:34.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | :) |
| 02:34.17 | Stylpe | http://home.no.net/stylpe/one_mongrelified.swf |
| 02:34.29 | Stylpe | oops, nvm |
| 02:34.44 | Stylpe | ah |
| 02:35.15 | Stylpe | http://home.no.net/stylpe/one_monglerfied.swf |
| 02:35.22 | Stylpe | just a typo =P |
| 02:35.42 | Stylpe | Hint: If he gets stuck, you can pull him around with the mouse |
| 02:35.43 | cladhaire | purl, tangential is "Adj. tan-gen-tal 1. Of, relating to, or moving along or in the direction of a tangent, 2. Merely touching or slightly connected, 3. Only superficially relevant, divergent: a tangential remark" |
| 02:35.45 | purl | okay, cladhaire |
| 02:36.02 | Stylpe | And you might want to make your browser window smaller |
| 02:36.46 | cladhaire | omg is that your head? |
| 02:36.48 | cladhaire | cause i love falling girl |
| 02:36.52 | cladhaire | but this is disturbing |
| 02:36.54 | Cair | ooookay, that's rather terrifying |
| 02:37.14 | cladhaire | u can throw her.. thats the best part |
| 02:38.54 | Cair | what's even more terrifying is the fact that I'm so completely bored out of my tree, I'm actually playing with it |
| 02:39.09 | cladhaire | haha i've wasted so much time on it. |
| 02:39.32 | Cair | what's the falling girl one? |
| 02:39.49 | Stylpe | I suspected there were other versions of this, could you point me to it? |
| 02:39.53 | Stylpe | Oh, and I have another one |
| 02:40.13 | Stylpe | http://home.no.net/stylpe/nanaca-crash_v106.swf |
| 02:40.26 | Cair | I've got stuff I should be doing, but I just don't feel like it :p |
| 02:47.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmm.. table.sort(unsortedTable) sorts the values right? It works on tables that have named keys right? |
| 02:47.40 | cladhaire | Nomad_Wanderer: nope |
| 02:47.46 | cladhaire | Nomad_Wanderer: It actually doesn't. |
| 02:48.01 | cladhaire | Nomad_Wanderer: gimme a sec and i'll get you a link |
| 02:48.05 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks. |
| 02:48.28 | AnduinLothar | jsut on indexed tables |
| 02:48.37 | AnduinLothar | and sorts values in place |
| 02:48.44 | AnduinLothar | default alphabeticly |
| 02:49.37 | cladhaire | ack.. gimme a sec and i'll toss some code together |
| 02:49.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | Dont worry about making code.. |
| 02:50.05 | Nomad_Wanderer | I have a table of Names, and DKP values.. I want to present the list of names in point order.. |
| 02:50.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | I thought I could use table.sort for that.. sounds like I cant |
| 02:50.21 | Nomad_Wanderer | Whats another way to do that? |
| 02:50.52 | Stylpe | 2529.52m |
| 02:51.13 | cladhaire | Ooh perfect |
| 02:51.17 | cladhaire | my example is using DKp :P |
| 02:51.25 | futrtrubl | whose head is that? |
| 02:51.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | purl, beneficial coincidence? |
| 02:51.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | :) |
| 02:51.48 | futrtrubl | on the falling chick's body, I mean |
| 02:52.57 | kergoth | i'd construct an indexed table of the names, then use table.sort with a custom sort function to sort by teh dkp values from the other table |
| 02:52.58 | kergoth | or similar |
| 02:53.37 | Nomad_Wanderer | How would you keep the two tables connected?... oh wait... |
| 02:53.50 | Nomad_Wanderer | Both tables would have the index as the key. |
| 02:53.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | got ya. |
| 02:54.22 | kergoth | by name. in one table its the key, in the other its the value |
| 02:54.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yep. |
| 02:54.36 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 02:55.10 | Nomad_Wanderer | If I do that, where 1 table is table[1]=45, style, can I use table.sort then, to sort by the values? |
| 02:55.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | where 45 is DKP |
| 02:55.30 | kergoth | you dont want the new table to sort the dkps |
| 02:55.36 | kergoth | you wnt it to sort the names, by the dkp in the other table |
| 02:55.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | and then in the other table names[1]=George |
| 02:55.45 | kergoth | table.sort can accept an alternate sort function |
| 02:55.47 | kergoth | rather than the default |
| 02:56.18 | kergoth | so table one is table["George"] = 45 .. table 2 is table[1] = "George", then you do a table.sort on table 2 with a custom function |
| 02:56.22 | kergoth | thats how i'd do it, anyway |
| 02:56.43 | Nomad_Wanderer | Which table would be sorted? |
| 02:57.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | oh.. wait I want to numerically sort, not alphabetical. |
| 02:57.05 | kergoth | yes, i know. |
| 02:57.09 | kergoth | you're missing the point |
| 02:57.16 | kergoth | here, let me just give you the code |
| 02:57.17 | Nomad_Wanderer | I am! I'm pretty new at this. |
| 02:58.11 | kergoth | table.sort(table2, function(a,b) return table1[a] < table1[b] end) |
| 02:58.20 | kergoth | table1 = {["George"] = 45} |
| 02:58.30 | Nomad_Wanderer | !?!?1 |
| 02:58.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | wow. |
| 02:58.33 | kergoth | table2 = {[1] = "George"} |
| 02:58.38 | kergoth | there, thats what you want |
| 02:58.59 | kergoth | table2 will then be the names, in order of the dkp values |
| 02:59.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hold on, I'm only on my 5th time reading that line.. I need about 10 :) |
| 02:59.50 | Stylpe | 3784.86m |
| 02:59.53 | cladhaire | damn pastebin is broked. |
| 03:00.01 | cladhaire | i had a nice example |
| 03:00.08 | AnduinLothar | ok guys. A use for IsMounted: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4334 |
| 03:00.24 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.44 | AnduinLothar | without requiring hardware trigger |
| 03:00.45 | cladhaire | http://watchdog.brokendreams.net/Table_Sort |
| 03:00.52 | AnduinLothar | thus allowing cast after |
| 03:01.14 | Cair | clad, you are always welcome to post a message at WoWI and drop code examples in there |
| 03:01.40 | Cair | I know, not as convenient as pastebin, but an option when needed |
| 03:01.52 | Nomad_Wanderer | heh :) Thats exactly that Ker just said, except he embedded the function :) |
| 03:02.11 | cladhaire | yeah yeah yeah |
| 03:02.19 | cladhaire | i just comment and don't embed =) |
| 03:02.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | I appreciate the effort tho. |
| 03:02.28 | cladhaire | i embed in my own code.. just not for shared code |
| 03:02.30 | cladhaire | yeah yeah |
| 03:02.30 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks again. |
| 03:02.32 | cladhaire | =) |
| 03:02.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:02.41 | kergoth | ow |
| 03:02.45 | cladhaire | LUA likes me better! |
| 03:03.31 | Nomad_Wanderer | Wait aminute.. did anduin just say that mod allows you to Dismount cast mount? |
| 03:03.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | That would take drive by buffing to a new level |
| 03:04.53 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: I'm assuming you just CancelBuff(), which doesn't active the global cooldown |
| 03:05.04 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 03:05.22 | cladhaire | So its not dismount/cast/mount.. its just Dismount/cast |
| 03:05.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | But if you wanted to remount... |
| 03:06.04 | cladhaire | remounting would require a keypress |
| 03:06.06 | cladhaire | since 1.6 |
| 03:06.18 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is there a way to hook that cancelbuff into spellcast event? |
| 03:06.38 | cladhaire | Nomad_Wanderer: You can accomplish most anything.. what would you try to do? |
| 03:06.59 | cladhaire | Dismounting, buffing and then remounting would require two presses (imo) |
| 03:07.10 | AnduinLothar | hold asec. not sure it'll do it all |
| 03:07.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | That would be neat thats all. I'm a priest (on lothar too BTW :) ), and I run out of innerfire all the tme |
| 03:07.17 | AnduinLothar | might have to init a hold |
| 03:07.32 | Nomad_Wanderer | That would allow me to cast innerfire again, and not get the stupid "your mounted" message. |
| 03:10.03 | Nomad_Wanderer | Though.. |
| 03:10.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | That might be abused. |
| 03:10.25 | kergoth | i could use rici's simple lua preprocessor to have /my/ version of my addon have a bunch of debug and asserts |
| 03:10.28 | Nomad_Wanderer | In WSG, or another BG, I would get a half second jump on people.. |
| 03:10.30 | kergoth | but for releases, itd all be removed |
| 03:10.33 | kergoth | thatd be slick |
| 03:10.36 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:10.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | I could run in mounted and fear faster than someone without that addon |
| 03:10.55 | cladhaire | true |
| 03:11.04 | AnduinLothar | if i can get it to work |
| 03:11.14 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 03:11.18 | Nomad_Wanderer | Though Priests need the help imo :) |
| 03:11.23 | AnduinLothar | it dismounts fine |
| 03:11.29 | AnduinLothar | just testign recasting |
| 03:11.42 | AnduinLothar | i think it takes time to dismount |
| 03:12.08 | Nomad_Wanderer | Still if its auto, its faster than someone finding the mount key, and then finding the spell key. |
| 03:12.38 | kergoth | i like that little wandcancel addon, that disables the autowand when you hit another spell key |
| 03:12.44 | kergoth | not that i use the wand often, but even so |
| 03:12.58 | AnduinLothar | CastOptiosn does that too i think |
| 03:13.10 | AnduinLothar | oh no |
| 03:13.28 | AnduinLothar | it has something to stop automaticly when u try to cast a spell |
| 03:13.39 | AnduinLothar | rather than erroring |
| 03:13.54 | AnduinLothar | right, lol... that |
| 03:14.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:14.13 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. the only time I use a wand it seems is when the pally thing is on the mob |
| 03:14.51 | Nomad_Wanderer | the one that regens mana ;) |
| 03:15.11 | AnduinLothar | wisdom |
| 03:15.20 | cladhaire | judgement of wisdom is gaining range.. which rocks. |
| 03:15.45 | cladhaire | alright folks.. well i think i'm going to head to bed. |
| 03:15.46 | AnduinLothar | ya, that would make it actually useful for anyone other than the pally |
| 03:16.01 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: no.. casting judgement is now ranged |
| 03:16.05 | cladhaire | its not melee range |
| 03:16.13 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 03:16.13 | Nomad_Wanderer | Good night cladhaire thanks for the help! |
| 03:16.16 | cladhaire | so they can judge from farther away |
| 03:16.18 | AnduinLothar | oh right |
| 03:16.20 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 03:16.24 | cladhaire | yeah.. the 1.9 tidbits =) |
| 03:16.59 | AnduinLothar | where's that /lag macro.. |
| 03:19.02 | AnduinLothar | lol bye |
| 03:19.07 | clad|sleep | someone find me a perl/php web interface for the web that works.. |
| 03:19.09 | Cair | night Clad :) |
| 03:19.10 | clad|sleep | for irc |
| 03:19.17 | clad|sleep | so i can participate all day long |
| 03:19.25 | Nomad_Wanderer | purl, slack? |
| 03:19.30 | purl | [slack] the man. damn cool |
| 03:19.30 | AnduinLothar | cosmosui.org |
| 03:19.40 | Nomad_Wanderer | purl, slacking? |
| 03:20.00 | Cair | ~unproductivity |
| 03:20.02 | purl | yay! |
| 03:20.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | hehehe |
| 03:20.24 | AnduinLothar | clad|sleep: http://www.cosmosui.org/index.php?p=irc |
| 03:20.56 | clad|sleep | AnduinLothar: Proxy web connection.. need the server to handle all comms |
| 03:20.59 | AnduinLothar | just have to make sure it's alright with ur virus scan |
| 03:21.09 | AnduinLothar | ah, right |
| 03:21.13 | AnduinLothar | not java |
| 03:21.21 | clad|sleep | AnduinLothar: All traffic at work is routed through a slurp proxy in St. Louis |
| 03:21.37 | Nomad_Wanderer | Me too.. I can't play catan at work :( |
| 03:21.49 | AnduinLothar | heh, for good reason |
| 03:22.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | tho probably same reason clad can't get to IRC :) |
| 03:22.15 | AnduinLothar | love the lightsaber cit effect/sound |
| 03:22.23 | AnduinLothar | crit* |
| 03:22.50 | Cair | interesting ... 102 gigs traffic at WoWI alone last week, not counting CTMod, WDN, WoWUIDes, EQI, EQ2I, EQ2Maps, GoBeserker, or any of our personal pages .. and there was no patch or anything |
| 03:23.10 | Cair | or VGI |
| 03:23.11 | clad|sleep | wow. |
| 03:23.21 | kergoth | damn |
| 03:23.29 | Stylpe | 7249.47m |
| 03:23.29 | Cair | not bad |
| 03:23.29 | Stylpe | I'm done now =) |
| 03:23.30 | Cair | slow week |
| 03:28.29 | Codayus | ...ouch, impressive. |
| 03:34.02 | AnduinLothar | mmmm if u have DefendYourself and you hold down a rotate button whiel reloading u can rotate the whole time and successfully fend of week attackers.. |
| 03:34.21 | AnduinLothar | mmm, nm. DefendYourself doesn't work if ui isn't loaded |
| 03:39.29 | AnduinLothar | oh wow... my reload time is tremendously long with a see error and it trying to auto correct w/o crashing |
| 03:39.44 | AnduinLothar | like on the order of 3 mintues |
| 03:40.12 | AnduinLothar | enough to disc me |
| 03:42.02 | AnduinLothar | i love how the pally in the loading screen has an epic offhanded book in his hand.. |
| 03:43.33 | AnduinLothar | heh... i made a /lag macro |
| 03:44.44 | Cair | lol |
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| 03:44.54 | AnduinLothar | it works! |
| 03:45.11 | AnduinLothar | lost control of my game tho.. |
| 03:45.28 | Cair | making an /unlag macro would probably be a better seller ... ;) |
| 03:45.56 | AnduinLothar | nah, one i get it right, this will be able to lag in a macro for a sellected time period |
| 03:46.24 | AnduinLothar | hopefully sacrificing ui control for a sec to be able to cast after a dismount or walk through mobs |
| 03:47.07 | Cair | now you wouldn't be telling me that you are figuring out a way to get around Blizzard's "one action for one key press" would you? *sticks her fingers in her ears ... lalala, can't hear you" .. ;) |
| 03:47.20 | AnduinLothar | nope, cant do that |
| 03:47.48 | AnduinLothar | but a dismount isn't a cast, it artificially inflates the time waiting fro an event |
| 03:48.21 | AnduinLothar | if i run a loop that waits for the macro.. |
| 03:48.24 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 03:48.25 | AnduinLothar | event |
| 03:48.40 | AnduinLothar | but atm i broke wow :P |
| 03:48.45 | AnduinLothar | so maybe it wont work |
| 03:48.52 | Cair | heh |
| 03:49.11 | AnduinLothar | means i get to load my reload timer tho and see how long my reloads actually are |
| 03:49.44 | AnduinLothar | lol, server still thinks im on.. |
| 03:49.50 | AnduinLothar | after 3 min of lag |
| 03:49.53 | AnduinLothar | ;) |
| 03:50.27 | Cair | heh |
| 03:50.42 | AnduinLothar | interesting |
| 03:52.51 | AnduinLothar | sweet, my lag function works |
| 03:52.55 | kergoth | Cair: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=6 |
| 03:53.06 | kergoth | god i love QC |
| 03:53.10 | AnduinLothar | i thought it was in miliseconds so i was multiplying by 1000 |
| 03:53.21 | AnduinLothar | but it was in seconds, lol |
| 03:54.15 | Cair | ROFL |
| 03:54.15 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 03:54.51 | AnduinLothar | LOL, my char i lagged for 1000 seconds on is still unavailible.. |
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| 03:58.06 | AnduinLothar | :) teleport macro |
| 03:58.26 | Greywind | lol dont spam the damn bot, nice one :P |
| 03:59.02 | kergoth | hee, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=21 |
| 03:59.10 | kergoth | i havent read these in too long |
| 03:59.30 | Cair | lol |
| 03:59.36 | Greywind | lol |
| 04:00.58 | Greywind | oh, i found out im addicted to the internet and multiplayer gaming...I lost internet connectivity because of some cable "upgrades" in my area for 2 days, I went through withdrawal :P |
| 04:02.12 | Greywind | *hugs cable modem* |
| 04:06.11 | Greywind | good lord could they have made the world of warcraft installer any slower? I have ripped it to my hardrive and its still been 20 minutes and counting and not even half done 0.0 |
| 04:07.01 | AnduinLothar | gg compression and 1 gig files |
| 04:10.02 | AnduinLothar | why not just duplicate the install and then dont use the 2nd one, or compress it with zip or somehting |
| 04:10.36 | AnduinLothar | mm zip compression would take just as long i think |
| 04:10.44 | Greywind | I was too happy when i got my new hardrives and forgot to back it up like i usually do >.< |
| 04:11.25 | Greywind | at least i backed up my addons and my wtf folder |
| 04:15.08 | kergoth | http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=64 |
| 04:23.41 | kergoth | lol, i love those |
| 04:23.57 | Cair | hahahahhahahahhahaha |
| 04:28.19 | futrtrubl | heh |
| 04:28.29 | AnduinLothar | looks liek GetTime is your Gaming time in seconds or something |
| 04:34.09 | kergoth | http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=122 |
| 04:34.32 | kergoth | muahah |
| 04:34.33 | kergoth | <hardwire> http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=49 |
| 04:34.33 | kergoth | * hardwire is choking now and making funny wheezing noises. |
| 04:35.16 | pfault | hehe |
| 04:36.44 | kergoth | hmm, http://www.digital-scurf.org/software/aranha looks neat |
| 04:38.03 | Greywind | yum cheetos and red bull, food for the gods |
| 04:38.13 | Greywind | well geek gods anyway |
| 04:38.34 | kergoth | indeed |
| 04:44.25 | AnduinLothar | sleep time. just fell alseep while grinding.. |
| 04:44.39 | Cair | night AnduinLothar |
| 04:44.43 | Greywind | hehe i do that a lot :P |
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| 04:47.10 | Anduin|IsMounted | ;) |
| 04:53.13 | Greywind | lol |
| 04:53.31 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
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| 05:20.20 | Cair | hahahha |
| 05:20.21 | Cair | http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=176 |
| 05:30.56 | Greywind | *note to self, get cane with mirror on bottom* |
| 05:32.05 | Cair | lol |
| 05:33.03 | Greywind | you know, if they actually made that game i would probably play it :P |
| 05:37.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | heh.. that was good.. I like full frontal nerdity too. |
| 05:38.36 | Nomad_Wanderer | later everyone thanks for the help! |
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| 05:54.00 | kergoth | whee |
| 05:54.00 | Cair | netsplit! |
| 05:59.22 | pfault | hey kergoth |
| 05:59.36 | pfault | how do I reposition my stuff in the new UI frames in your pack |
| 06:02.58 | kergoth | iirc you can do a /aceperl unlock or /aceperl lock to be able to drag them around |
| 06:03.03 | kergoth | or you can use visor |
| 06:03.38 | pfault | how does that work hehe |
| 06:03.53 | kergoth | visor lets you do just about anything to frames |
| 06:04.02 | kergoth | resize, scale, hide, mess with events, set alpha, textures, etc |
| 06:04.18 | kergoth | see http://www.digital-scurf.org/software/aranha |
| 06:04.19 | kergoth | er |
| 06:04.21 | kergoth | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/wiki/Visor |
| 06:07.54 | Anduin|IsMounted | that's a lot of power. it it user friendly, intuitive and easy to use? |
| 06:12.32 | kergoth | oh hell no :) its purely commandline driven. the commands make sense, but only once you know how it works. as far as i know, no one has written a ui for it |
| 06:12.44 | Anduin|IsMounted | bleh |
| 06:12.56 | Anduin|IsMounted | i'll stick to MobileFrames then |
| 06:13.08 | kergoth | check out https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/wiki/VisorTipsAndTricks |
| 06:13.20 | kergoth | has syntax examples |
| 06:13.43 | Osagasu | Anduin, that new version of Archaeologist is supposed to take the HP off the bar when a person goes offline, right? |
| 06:14.27 | Anduin|IsMounted | right, feature, not bug |
| 06:14.35 | Osagasu | nonono |
| 06:14.38 | Osagasu | its NOT taking it off |
| 06:14.40 | Anduin|IsMounted | doesn't work? |
| 06:14.48 | Anduin|IsMounted | when dead or ghost? |
| 06:15.17 | Osagasu | dunno about dead or ghost |
| 06:15.30 | Anduin|IsMounted | it should say |
| 06:15.35 | Osagasu | but one of my party members is offline witht he little text and the lightning bolt |
| 06:15.40 | Anduin|IsMounted | and i assume that's party frame |
| 06:15.42 | Osagasu | and he still has his HP/mana text |
| 06:15.45 | Osagasu | yea |
| 06:16.02 | Anduin|IsMounted | ok, well offline is diff, i didn't get a good chance to test enough |
| 06:16.36 | Anduin|IsMounted | if u wanna help me test i could fix it.. |
| 06:18.02 | Anduin|IsMounted | oo, this is an evil macro |
| 06:18.47 | Osagasu | of course I'll help, just tell me what I gotta do |
| 06:18.59 | Anduin|IsMounted | made a lag macro that will allow me to not only stop mobs from following me (still get hit tho) and also delay casting. so i can cast a spell where i was x seconds ago |
| 06:19.13 | Anduin|IsMounted | evil.. |
| 06:20.18 | Anduin|IsMounted | run past... /lag 3 Consecration(Rank 4) ... 3 seconds later i'm 10 feet away but concecration is being cast where i started |
| 06:20.58 | Anduin|IsMounted | lose control of the ui for 3 seconds tho |
| 06:21.30 | Anduin|IsMounted | mmm, ok. need u to come on my server basicly and party me, then force quit |
| 06:22.47 | Anduin|IsMounted | Kil'jaeden, alliance |
| 06:23.10 | Osagasu | kk |
| 06:26.18 | Osagasu | Anduin, I can't find it in the realm list |
| 06:26.28 | Anduin|IsMounted | pvp |
| 06:26.41 | Anduin|IsMounted | US |
| 06:27.29 | Osagasu | goes from Khaz'goroth to Kilrogg |
| 06:27.38 | Anduin|IsMounted | sort by name |
| 06:27.45 | Osagasu | I am |
| 06:28.34 | Anduin|IsMounted | :/ |
| 06:29.20 | Osagasu | "\ |
| 06:29.22 | Osagasu | :\ |
| 06:29.25 | Osagasu | night Cair |
| 06:30.25 | Osagasu | Well, if I can't get in the least I can do is describe it... |
| 06:30.45 | Anduin|IsMounted | stormscale there? |
| 06:31.20 | Osagasu | ya |
| 06:31.26 | Anduin|IsMounted | make a human |
| 06:31.35 | Anduin|IsMounted | ill meet u there, name Toelicker |
| 06:35.37 | Anduin|IsMounted | wow froze brb |
| 06:39.24 | Anduin|IsMounted | name? |
| 06:40.22 | Osagasu | what am I always? |
| 06:44.33 | Osagasu | okay, I'm out |
| 06:44.35 | Anduin|IsMounted | it went away |
| 06:44.43 | Osagasu | it was the second party member |
| 06:44.49 | Anduin|IsMounted | log in again |
| 06:44.59 | Anduin|IsMounted | try in range |
| 06:54.34 | Osagasu | right near that rogue too |
| 06:54.37 | Osagasu | hehehe |
| 06:54.47 | Anduin|IsMounted | worked as intended |
| 06:55.11 | Osagasu | well I dunno then |
| 06:55.23 | Osagasu | I just know what I saw and I saw the text was still there |
| 06:55.37 | Anduin|IsMounted | the offline text or the hp text? |
| 06:55.43 | Osagasu | HP text |
| 06:55.48 | Anduin|IsMounted | :/ |
| 06:56.02 | Anduin|IsMounted | take a ss next time u see it |
| 06:56.28 | Osagasu | k |
| 06:57.34 | Osagasu | on another note, Sky has a bug in it in the latest alpha... lemme see if I can get it to show me the error |
| 06:57.42 | Osagasu | IEF really should save these things |
| 06:57.58 | Anduin|IsMounted | sounds like a good option |
| 06:58.10 | kergoth | iirc bugsack does save them |
| 06:58.15 | kergoth | (alternative to ief) |
| 06:58.26 | Anduin|IsMounted | ief used to to submit |
| 06:58.38 | Anduin|IsMounted | but then they disabled urls |
| 07:10.11 | Osagasu | well, its time I went nini |
| 07:10.21 | Osagasu | so, uhm... night |
| 07:10.51 | Anduin|IsMounted | night |
| 07:13.42 | pfault | yes |
| 07:13.46 | pfault | I got recipe for robe of the void |
| 07:13.47 | pfault | :) |
| 07:13.57 | Anduin|IsMounted | grats |
| 07:23.41 | kergoth | nice |
| 07:24.53 | kergoth | pfault: did you get your addons all configured happily? I can send you my Visor.lua from my savedvariables if you'd like, it includes aceperl and xraid frame positioning |
| 07:36.59 | pfault | yeah pretty much |
| 07:37.06 | pfault | I hate having to move all my frames though |
| 07:37.15 | pfault | they should automatically know where to go |
| 07:43.11 | Anduin|IsMounted | lol |
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| 07:58.42 | pagefault | well |
| 07:58.53 | pagefault | my action bar is stuck a weird spot |
| 07:58.57 | pagefault | the progress bar for actions |
| 07:59.36 | Anduin|IsMounted | castign bar? |
| 07:59.57 | pagefault | yeah |
| 08:02.34 | kergoth | pagefault: /vz set f=eCastingBar pr=UIParent p1=CENTER p2=CENTER x=0 y=0 |
| 08:03.11 | Anduin|IsMounted | that's almost as complicated as just calling the function O.o |
| 08:03.35 | kergoth | pagefault: /vz set f=eCastingBarMirror pr=eCastingBar p1=BOTTOMLEFT p2=TOPLEFT x=0 y=0 |
| 08:03.38 | kergoth | indeed |
| 08:04.01 | kergoth | gives a great deal of raw power. doesnt mean you have to use it.. |
| 08:04.18 | Anduin|IsMounted | right-click -> Menu -> "Reset Casting Bar" ftw |
| 08:05.05 | kergoth | yeah, since what i need is more ui ram taken up by xml frames |
| 08:05.10 | kergoth | no thanks |
| 08:05.15 | pagefault | now it's stuck in the middle of the screen |
| 08:05.23 | kergoth | "stuck"? |
| 08:05.26 | pagefault | well |
| 08:05.28 | pagefault | it's center in the screen |
| 08:05.38 | kergoth | which is where it should be |
| 08:05.41 | Anduin|IsMounted | actually it's a one line inherit of the orig menu frame |
| 08:05.49 | Anduin|IsMounted | same menu used for everyhting |
| 08:05.53 | pagefault | I liked it where it was in the original UI |
| 08:06.03 | kergoth | then put it there. |
| 08:06.05 | Anduin|IsMounted | heh |
| 08:06.16 | pagefault | with that crazy script stuff? |
| 08:06.44 | kergoth | yes, since x/y coordinates are 'crazy' |
| 08:06.49 | kergoth | otherwise just tell me what you want and i'll do it |
| 08:06.53 | Anduin|IsMounted | u could always change to use the competition if u don't like using Visor |
| 08:07.11 | Anduin|IsMounted | or ker could just tell u how to do it with visor |
| 08:07.18 | kergoth | indeed, either way |
| 08:07.23 | kergoth | should use what suits you |
| 08:07.31 | kergoth | visor meets my needs |
| 08:07.39 | pagefault | OK |
| 08:07.39 | pagefault | o |
| 08:07.40 | pagefault | ok |
| 08:07.43 | pagefault | ok |
| 08:07.43 | pagefault | err |
| 08:07.46 | pagefault | yeah I fixed it |
| 08:08.03 | kergoth | how? |
| 08:08.09 | pagefault | changed the y |
| 08:08.15 | Anduin|IsMounted | some crazy stuff ;) |
| 08:08.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:08.36 | Anduin|IsMounted | ker, btw this is the xml for the menu: |
| 08:08.37 | Anduin|IsMounted | <GameTooltip name="MobileFramesTooltip" frameStrata="TOOLTIP" hidden="true" inherits="GameTooltipTemplate" parent="UIParent" /> |
| 08:08.56 | kergoth | yes.. and? |
| 08:09.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:09.30 | kergoth | i dont need a ui, i'm not coding one. if he wants one, he's free to. otherwise he can use eCastingBar's built in positioning stuff |
| 08:09.35 | kergoth | it has all of that, i just dont use it |
| 08:09.43 | Anduin|IsMounted | mmmk |
| 08:09.44 | kergoth | pagefault: iirc, /eCastingBar config |
| 08:10.09 | kergoth | and if you're gonna do it that way, make sure you /vz del eCastingBar |
| 08:10.15 | Anduin|IsMounted | i was just saying it's not the huge memory sink u make it out to be |
| 08:10.16 | kergoth | so it doesnt take control of the frame's positioning |
| 08:11.00 | kergoth | true enough, but little things add up |
| 08:11.39 | Anduin|IsMounted | they do, but i value intuitive usage a lot more than some small bit of memory |
| 08:12.06 | kergoth | i dont :) differing philosophies. i like commandline interfaces. in linux, i often dont even go into X. |
| 08:12.09 | Anduin|IsMounted | not saying it's for everyone |
| 08:12.50 | Anduin|IsMounted | there's a reason why memcoder and mplayer are the best at what they do |
| 08:13.59 | kergoth | have you ever seen the attempts at an mplayer gui? |
| 08:14.00 | kergoth | blech |
| 08:14.03 | kergoth | they're /all/ horrid |
| 08:14.06 | Anduin|IsMounted | i have one |
| 08:14.08 | kergoth | and xine isnt much better |
| 08:14.16 | kergoth | totem is nice though, if you're using gnome |
| 08:14.18 | Anduin|IsMounted | it's not horrably, but it's not fabulous |
| 08:14.44 | Anduin|IsMounted | one i have uses coaco for OS X |
| 08:14.53 | Anduin|IsMounted | cocoa* |
| 08:14.57 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 08:20.13 | futrtrubl | anyone uploaded addons to curse? I've "submitted" something to them, but I'm not sure what I should wait for or what exactly I submitted, the idea behind my mod or an idea for a mod. It's an unintuitive place |
| 08:21.00 | Anduin|IsMounted | u submitted ur main page. once confirmed u add pix and files |
| 08:21.30 | futrtrubl | and how do they notify me of acceptance? email or PM? |
| 08:21.59 | Anduin|IsMounted | pm |
| 08:22.02 | futrtrubl | k |
| 08:22.07 | Anduin|IsMounted | u can set to email i think |
| 08:30.53 | Anduin|IsMounted | kergoth: http://karlkfi.no-ip.com/ffmpegX_Pix/ |
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| 09:06.25 | Anduin|IsMounted | seems my ace is now throwing up randomly.. w/o any ace addons loaded |
| 09:06.43 | Anduin|IsMounted | just the line 144 nil index |
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| 13:42.18 | Anduin|IsMounted | it's liek 6am and my sever's down from overloaded/wont appear in realm list to just 'Full' like it always is.... crazy |
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| 13:47.34 | Anduin|IsMounted | morning |
| 13:50.33 | Cide | morning |
| 13:56.31 | Anduin|IsMounted | broke my silly project and spent all night making it even function.. |
| 14:09.31 | Anduin|IsMounted | wow. someone sent me a chinese localozation of TellTrack |
| 14:10.02 | Cide | hehe yeah |
| 14:10.08 | Cide | I've gotten a couple of those |
| 14:18.29 | Anduin|IsMounted | there a 1.9 test server up yet? |
| 14:18.38 | Cair|sleep | not that I've seen |
| 14:19.39 | Anduin|IsMounted | morning cair |
| 14:19.48 | Cair|sleep | hi hi |
| 14:19.55 | Anduin|IsMounted | posting in ut sleep? |
| 14:20.19 | Cair|sleep | just here for a few, 4 hrs sleep isn't enough, going to crawl back in shortly to snag a couple more |
| 14:21.14 | Anduin|IsMounted | i should go grab 2 or 3 before class |
| 14:21.29 | Anduin|IsMounted | just wanted to get SeaHooks pretty enough to send out for reviewing |
| 14:22.02 | Cair|sleep | This is pretty much what I do every day, these days ... go to bed somewhere around 3am my time, get back up at 7 to see kiddo out the door to school, check the sites, approve any mods sitting around, answer any questions that can't wait, then crawl back in until somewhere between noon and 2pm |
| 14:22.46 | Anduin|IsMounted | haven't slept yet... i should have. im gonna regret it on my closing shift tonight |
| 14:22.55 | Cair|sleep | it's kinda odd, but it seems to work well enough |
| 14:23.50 | Anduin|IsMounted | i kinda lost mosta my friends when i left my home town to come back down here after summer. 1h by car is an eternity when u have no car |
| 14:24.00 | Cair|sleep | yeah =/ |
| 14:24.11 | Anduin|IsMounted | and my ex is up there too |
| 14:24.29 | Anduin|IsMounted | still haven't seen her since she broke up with me.. |
| 14:24.43 | Anduin|IsMounted | not much social life here. |
| 14:24.58 | Anduin|IsMounted | rl social anyway |
| 14:25.10 | Cair|sleep | sochuhwha? |
| 14:25.24 | Cair|sleep | what's this "social life" thing of which you speak? |
| 14:26.07 | Cair|sleep | you been doing that wacky tobaccy again? |
| 14:27.01 | Anduin|IsMounted | gsub(MyLife, "(Social Life)", "No %1") |
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| 14:35.50 | Anduin|IsMounted | yay for random crazy scoping tests |
| 14:36.00 | Anduin|IsMounted | i really have no idea if this will work or not |
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| 15:07.20 | Stylpe | Can anyone point me to a good memory cleaning app? |
| 15:07.31 | Stylpe | Actually, I'll ask that in #lua |
| 15:19.54 | Cair|sleep | Okay, back to sleep for a few more hours. Back later. |
| 15:22.07 | Anduin|IsMounted | cyas... in that time i think it's time for me to finally download auctioneer |
| 15:24.39 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Nomad_Wanderer (n=NomadWan@cpe-66-67-110-36.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 15:24.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | Howdy |
| 15:24.51 | Anduin|IsMounted | moo |
| 15:24.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | :) |
| 15:25.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | does toNumber(String) automatically trim leading trailing spaces? |
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| 15:26.06 | Osagasu | hows them seckes? |
| 15:26.08 | Anduin|IsMounted | yes |
| 15:26.09 | Osagasu | >.> |
| 15:26.16 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks. |
| 15:26.22 | Osagasu | nice response. |
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| 15:35.07 | Anduin|IsMounted | i need to close my broswer completely everyso often |
| 15:35.16 | Anduin|IsMounted | it pages up mymemory to full |
| 15:39.22 | Anduin|IsMounted | wow... OS X is using nearly 5 gigs of virtual memory.. |
| 15:39.37 | Anduin|IsMounted | and says it has 400 mb real memory free |
| 15:39.47 | Anduin|IsMounted | out of 1.5 gb |
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| 15:40.03 | shouryuu | rawrrrwar |
| 15:40.11 | Anduin|IsMounted | ok.. i'm just gonna be glad i havne't figured out what it's doing then and get on with ym life |
| 15:40.32 | shouryuu | ? |
| 15:40.50 | Anduin|IsMounted | my os is using 5gigs of VM and a gig of ram |
| 15:40.57 | shouryuu | ouch |
| 15:41.16 | shouryuu | that's kinda too much |
| 15:41.31 | Anduin|IsMounted | which isn't really a problem with 1.5 gb ram and liek 35gb free on my boot drive |
| 15:41.43 | Anduin|IsMounted | but is was surprising |
| 15:41.49 | Anduin|IsMounted | cause iw as getting slow down |
| 15:41.58 | Anduin|IsMounted | prolly nothing a logout/in wouldn't wix |
| 15:42.13 | Nomad_Wanderer | That is a lof of VM tho. |
| 15:42.46 | Anduin|IsMounted | right, OS X has very advanced memery management tho so i'm not gonna bother guessign what it's doing |
| 15:43.12 | Anduin|IsMounted | but it's been running non stop this week end and i haven't logged out in a month or so |
| 15:43.26 | Anduin|IsMounted | so i'm gonna just do that |
| 15:43.32 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. but either have I on my windows XP box. |
| 15:43.33 | shouryuu | lol |
| 15:44.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | Tiger is better than XP... Something aint kosher with your system methinkgs |
| 15:44.06 | Anduin|IsMounted | if winxp was using that much i'd hit it with a fire extinguister |
| 15:44.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | Exactly. |
| 15:44.12 | shouryuu | lol |
| 15:44.39 | Anduin|IsMounted | im on pather still tho, haven't had $ to upgrade yet |
| 15:44.44 | Anduin|IsMounted | maybe for xmas |
| 15:45.27 | Anduin|IsMounted | i take that back... 8 bg |
| 15:45.30 | Anduin|IsMounted | gb |
| 15:46.01 | Anduin|IsMounted | i think it's just the cpu |
| 15:46.18 | Anduin|IsMounted | it's hot and been runnign 100% non stop for a long time |
| 15:49.24 | Anduin|IsMounted | ok... there's something wrong when my computer will fully boot up faster than wow takes to reloadui |
| 15:49.40 | Parak | U.S.S O.S. has sprung a memory leak! Man the debug boats! |
| 15:50.24 | Anduin|IsMounted | ah ok.. i get it. it just parcels out the vm so that you cant overwrite it |
| 15:50.43 | Anduin|IsMounted | grabs 5.5 gb vm on boot up |
| 15:52.09 | Anduin|IsMounted | much more responsiv enow |
| 15:52.28 | shouryuu | wowow, this pally has an The Hand of ragnaros, an 80dps, 220-320 dmg mace |
| 15:53.04 | Anduin|IsMounted | ya, an alliance guild on my server just picked one of those uup yesterday |
| 15:53.36 | Anduin|IsMounted | ok, time to test run auctioneer and see if it lives up to the hype |
| 15:53.53 | Anduin|IsMounted | maybe i can make some $ while coding |
| 15:53.58 | Parak | Our server has about 5 now... Granted, some of those were obtained more easily back when you could do MC daily. *cough* |
| 15:54.15 | Anduin|IsMounted | when coudl u do it daily? |
| 15:54.20 | shouryuu | a while ago |
| 15:54.57 | Anduin|IsMounted | yes. now i'm getting my normal 20 fps in wow, much better than the 7 i was getting before logging out |
| 15:55.06 | Anduin|IsMounted | ooo hit 30 |
| 15:55.10 | Anduin|IsMounted | wow |
| 15:55.18 | Anduin|IsMounted | shoulda done this a while ago |
| 15:55.52 | Anduin|IsMounted | odd... i installed 4 addons, logged out of the OS and back in and now i've tripled my fps |
| 15:56.33 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ToastTheif (i=ToastThe@rvr35nbar199.nmu.edu) |
| 15:57.04 | ToastTheif | ~nickometer Geramfanam |
| 15:57.16 | Malt_Lothar | Which addons? |
| 15:57.34 | ToastTheif | purl_, capitilize my name please |
| 15:58.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~nickometer Nomad_Wanderer |
| 15:58.01 | Anduin|IsMounted | aautioneer, itemized deductions,AQ_ARC, and soemthing i forgot.. |
| 15:58.02 | ToastTheif | purl_, commands? |
| 15:58.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | Sounds right :) |
| 15:58.10 | ToastTheif | ~commands |
| 15:58.21 | Anduin|IsMounted | ~nickometer AnduinLothar |
| 15:58.32 | Nomad_Wanderer | What is AQ_ARC? |
| 15:58.50 | Anduin|IsMounted | action queue auto ractive class |
| 15:58.52 | ToastTheif | ~shoot Anduin |
| 15:58.54 | purl | ACTION shoots Anduin in the eye with a phase pistol! |
| 15:59.02 | Nomad_Wanderer | Uh oh.. Phase pistol infection.. |
| 15:59.55 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is AQ-ARC not on Curse? |
| 16:00.04 | Anduin|IsMounted | nah it's on sarf's svn |
| 16:00.10 | ToastTheif | ~ToastTheif |
| 16:00.12 | purl | Toasttheif ninjas toast then logs off |
| 16:00.17 | ToastTheif | =( |
| 16:00.29 | ToastTheif | purl_, ToastTheif is also a nice guy |
| 16:00.48 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmm.. what would purl say about me? |
| 16:00.55 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~Nomad_Wanderer |
| 16:00.56 | shouryuu | ~shouryuu |
| 16:00.57 | purl | you are, like, an annoying forum troll |
| 16:01.00 | shouryuu | lol |
| 16:01.03 | shouryuu | that's me! |
| 16:01.03 | Nomad_Wanderer | heh |
| 16:01.29 | Parak | ~me |
| 16:01.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | purl_, Nomad_Wanderer is a lua Noob, but trying! |
| 16:01.58 | ToastTheif | purl, ToastTheif is also a cool guy |
| 16:01.59 | purl | okay, ToastTheif |
| 16:02.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | purl, Nomad_Wanderer is a lua Noob, but trying! |
| 16:02.13 | purl | okay, Nomad_Wanderer |
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| 16:03.34 | shouryuu | what reason COULD prevent my variables from saving? |
| 16:03.45 | *** join/#wowi-lounge MoonWolf (i=MoonWolf@ip51ccaa81.speed.planet.nl) |
| 16:03.48 | Anduin|IsMounted | gnomes |
| 16:04.00 | MoonWolf | the other white meat |
| 16:04.46 | shouryuu | gnomes ftl... |
| 16:04.57 | shouryuu | this really is killing m |
| 16:04.59 | shouryuu | *me |
| 16:05.16 | shouryuu | My add on is fully functional except for the bloody varaibles who won't save |
| 16:05.35 | Anduin|IsMounted | did u log out after u changed the toc? |
| 16:05.49 | shouryuu | about 1000 times |
| 16:07.35 | Anduin|IsMounted | that is one phatty pally hammer |
| 16:07.54 | Anduin|IsMounted | looks liek the ones the paladins used in Warcraft 2 from their horses |
| 16:08.00 | Anduin|IsMounted | th ejudgment one |
| 16:11.22 | shouryuu | ahhh my god |
| 16:11.32 | shouryuu | this priest has a trinket that does +16mana/5sec |
| 16:11.40 | Anduin|IsMounted | cast? |
| 16:11.52 | Cide | Shard of the Scale |
| 16:11.55 | Cide | drops from Onyxia |
| 16:11.56 | Anduin|IsMounted | nice |
| 16:12.01 | Cide | not cast, no |
| 16:12.16 | Cide | shouryuu: look up Rejuvenating Gem |
| 16:13.01 | shouryuu | she has a total of +60mana/5 sec |
| 16:13.07 | shouryuu | ill check that out |
| 16:13.44 | Parak | the gem is nice, but I wouldn't use it over a mindtap or the beasts deck trinket |
| 16:14.13 | Cide | the gem is like |
| 16:14.18 | shouryuu | wow |
| 16:14.19 | Cide | the best priest trinket in the game |
| 16:14.22 | shouryuu | yeah |
| 16:14.23 | Cide | in my opinion of course |
| 16:14.42 | shouryuu | I sure as hell share it |
| 16:15.40 | Parak | typically those who go for mana regen gear (like me) don't care for +healing as the benefit to flash heal is miniscule |
| 16:16.03 | Cide | +healing gives flash heal a bigger increase than it gives gheal in terms of hp/s |
| 16:16.04 | Parak | it's definitely the uber trinket of choice for +healing build priests that spam renews |
| 16:16.50 | Cide | I never run oom on any fight pretty much |
| 16:16.57 | Cide | so why have even more mana regen? :) |
| 16:17.21 | shouryuu | and even, mind tap is 11/5sec that one is 9/5sec with +66healing |
| 16:17.43 | shouryuu | +66healing is a lot of healing, I'd bet it compensates for the 2 mana you don't regen every 5 sec |
| 16:17.44 | Anduin|IsMounted | still need my tintap for my pally |
| 16:17.52 | shouryuu | tintap |
| 16:17.54 | Osagasu | y'know, the more I think about Blizzard adding for-pay server transfers in the coming months, the more I begin to think it shouldn't happen |
| 16:18.01 | Anduin|IsMounted | mindtap |
| 16:18.04 | Parak | well, again, it's not straight +66 :p |
| 16:18.09 | Parak | it depends on the spell |
| 16:18.16 | Cide | doesn't really matter |
| 16:18.29 | Cide | over the 4 seconds you cast one gheal, you get 100% |
| 16:18.34 | Anduin|IsMounted | i have +240 heal i think with healing gear on |
| 16:19.03 | Anduin|IsMounted | two mail pieces, rest plate |
| 16:19.08 | Parak | also I wonder if this trinket would be better than the zandalarian badge or the priest quest trinket |
| 16:20.25 | Cide | you get 114% from casting flash heal for 4 sec, so you get more over time, just not as much on every spell |
| 16:20.45 | Cide | or did I do that math correctly |
| 16:22.20 | Cide | not sure actually, I'm too tired.. anyway, you get 126% over 4.5 sec, which ends up with a little more than 100% over 4 sec |
| 16:22.45 | shouryuu | meh don't talk of being tired |
| 16:22.47 | Cide | ah, ya, 114% is right |
| 16:23.09 | shouryuu | I just came out of 4hours of philosophy written a paper on "The God of Philosphers" 0_o |
| 16:23.12 | Cide | I was raiding last night shouryuu, and I live in sweden (raiding with an american guild) :P |
| 16:23.14 | shouryuu | *wrinnting |
| 16:23.19 | shouryuu | hehe I hear ya |
| 16:23.25 | shouryuu | 3am -7am |
| 16:23.27 | shouryuu | I'm in paris |
| 16:23.31 | shouryuu | I feel the pain |
| 16:23.39 | Cide | hehe yep |
| 16:23.56 | Cide | I really should move to the US, so much easier hehe |
| 16:24.00 | shouryuu | lol |
| 16:24.54 | Parak | in either case, I'd rather spend my hard earned points on definite upgrades, like the pendant, the gatherer, the geta, the shroud, etc :p |
| 16:25.30 | shouryuu | yeah I agree |
| 16:26.02 | Cide | you're inside 5 second rule 50% of the time |
| 16:26.38 | Cide | you only get full benefit from mana/5sec when inside it (well not really, but it makes the best use there) |
| 16:27.15 | Cide | I'm not going to start another discussion about gear as that happens every day in another channel I'm in hehe, but I really think you shouldn't focus on only one attribute |
| 16:27.39 | Cide | I try to get +healing and +spirit (3 piece transcendence bonus is sweet), int and mana/5 if I can |
| 16:27.58 | Parak | who said I focus on +mana regen? :p |
| 16:28.01 | Cide | I'm not saying that I'm right and you're wrong of course, that's just how I value it |
| 16:28.05 | Cide | you did |
| 16:28.29 | Cide | "typically those who go for mana regen gear (like me)" |
| 16:28.58 | Parak | you got me there :p |
| 16:29.50 | Cide | ;) |
| 16:29.50 | shouryuu | hehe |
| 16:29.51 | Parak | though I don't do that in practice anymore, as I have done the math and such on a per item basis |
| 16:30.03 | shouryuu | you both priests? |
| 16:30.38 | Cide | I am, ya |
| 16:30.45 | Parak | for instance, I'm using will of arlokk instead of anything else, as I get about a 1:2 spirit:mana regen ratio on raids |
| 16:30.57 | Parak | (monitored using spiritversusintellect addon) |
| 16:31.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | Cide is wrong.. Mana 5/sec runs all the time.. even inside the 5 sec rule. |
| 16:31.34 | Cide | read the parenthesis |
| 16:31.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | heh.. contradicted yourself almost :) |
| 16:31.56 | shouryuu | im not sure nomad |
| 16:32.05 | Cide | no, you just misinterpreted it |
| 16:32.12 | Cide | you're inside 5 second rule 50% of the time -- you only get full benefit from mana/5sec when inside it (well not really, but it makes the best use there) |
| 16:32.47 | Cide | you get the same benefit from it both inside and outside of the 5 sec rule, but it makes the best use while inside it because outside, it will be overshadowed by your spirit regen |
| 16:32.58 | Parak | So aye, +mana regen is definitely not the be all end all type of gear. Case in point, prophecy legs are actually better than manastorm |
| 16:33.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | Personally, I'd like to max my mana regen inside the 5 sec rule. In combat, I'm going to be casting at least once every 5 secs. |
| 16:33.53 | Cide | not really |
| 16:34.04 | Cide | you're inside it 50% of the time by average |
| 16:34.50 | Cide | that was the general opinion two months ago as far as I know |
| 16:35.09 | ToastTheif | ~ToastTheif |
| 16:35.11 | purl | Toasttheif ninjas toast then logs off, or a cool guy |
| 16:35.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | Use MUSE to prove your assumption. |
| 16:35.55 | Cide | I did |
| 16:36.00 | Anduin|IsMounted | wow, i just bought 4xPristine Black Diamonds for 24g |
| 16:36.02 | Cide | but it spammed my combat log so I disabled it |
| 16:36.18 | Parak | SvI monitors that too for me, and it's typically higher, or at least for me. It really depends on the fight, your role in the fight, and how one casts |
| 16:36.41 | Nomad_Wanderer | cool... I agree its different for everyone, just use data to modify your behavior.. |
| 16:36.50 | Nomad_Wanderer | not "everyone says" :) |
| 16:37.07 | Cide | I said general opinion, I asked around |
| 16:37.20 | Cide | and i read 50% on the forums several times, and I checked my own data as well :) |
| 16:37.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | The last part is the important bit :) |
| 16:39.24 | Anduin|IsMounted | i'm really gonna have to merge together buffbot, whispercast and divineblessing. they would be uber combined to work together |
| 16:40.23 | Cide | Nomad_Wanderer: yeah, I was just backing up my "general opinion" statement.. but I guess "general opinion" might be the wrong word to use as well, my apologies |
| 16:40.29 | Cide | Anduin|IsMounted: that would be pretty sweet |
| 16:40.49 | Anduin|IsMounted | being able to use DB's drag and drop to define settings for BuffBot rather than slash commands and beign able to see a queue in the whisper cast window of what it'll cast next. Then having it allow people to whisper in to set their buff choice |
| 16:41.29 | Anduin|IsMounted | then run it with AQ_BuffBot and the WC cast button/binding |
| 16:43.51 | Anduin|IsMounted | i like my reload timer :) |
| 16:45.10 | Nomad_Wanderer | Apologies for what :)? |
| 16:46.30 | shouryuu | I think this add-on wants me to die |
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| 16:46.51 | shouryuu | well I mean, kill myself for the least |
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| 16:51.04 | *** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:51.14 | Cide | Nomad_Wanderer: for stating that it was general opinion |
| 16:51.37 | Kaelten | hows it going |
| 16:51.47 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 16:51.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | hehehe.. Sure. |
| 16:52.44 | Anduin|IsMounted | sup keal |
| 16:52.50 | Anduin|IsMounted | kael* |
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| 16:57.10 | shouryuu | omg there's another decursive thread... |
| 16:57.15 | shouryuu | it's the end of the world |
| 16:57.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | Sick em Shouryuu! |
| 16:59.29 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Amicester (n=Atrius@nat-132.digitalriver.com) |
| 16:59.31 | shouryuu | hehe |
| 16:59.38 | shouryuu | I;ve just abandoned the forums |
| 16:59.49 | shouryuu | don't post there anymore :( |
| 17:09.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | 1 action per click only means in game actions right? |
| 17:09.09 | Amicester | http://www.despair.com/potential.html |
| 17:09.28 | Amicester | It only means actions that required a hardware request. |
| 17:09.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | I.e. if I wanted to make a macro that after AB kicks non guildies from the raid |
| 17:09.32 | Amicester | require |
| 17:09.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is that 1 click per kick? |
| 17:09.46 | Cide | no |
| 17:09.47 | Amicester | Yeah you should be able to automate that. |
| 17:10.01 | Cide | yep, you can do that in a macro |
| 17:10.02 | Nomad_Wanderer | Cool. Not every difficult either |
| 17:10.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | every=veruy |
| 17:10.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | veruy=very |
| 17:10.33 | Amicester | http://www.despair.com/achievement.html |
| 17:13.26 | Tain | Always remember, " Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur." |
| 17:16.21 | shouryuu | meeaning> |
| 17:17.20 | Tain | - Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound. |
| 17:17.58 | shouryuu | lol |
| 17:18.12 | Anduin|IsMounted | i'm taking latin |
| 17:18.13 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.17 | Anduin|IsMounted | i still dunno what he said |
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| 17:19.19 | Verlaine | rawr |
| 17:19.25 | Anduin|IsMounted | kek |
| 17:23.32 | Tain | The world is my oyster. |
| 17:23.37 | Tain | Too bad I don't like oysters. |
| 17:23.52 | futrtrubl | mmm, oysters |
| 17:23.59 | futrtrubl | I'll have yours then |
| 17:24.04 | Anduin|IsMounted | i'm not a huge fan |
| 17:24.07 | Anduin|IsMounted | i like clams |
| 17:24.13 | Anduin|IsMounted | crab is delectable |
| 17:24.25 | Anduin|IsMounted | lobster is tasty but too expensive |
| 17:24.52 | Verlaine | steak |
| 17:24.57 | Verlaine | that's all I have to say |
| 17:25.00 | Anduin|IsMounted | steak is just right in the disposible income zone before i have to start paying for housing |
| 17:25.19 | Verlaine | :P |
| 17:25.21 | futrtrubl | with my special blue cheese butter..... heaven |
| 17:25.22 | Verlaine | I just love steak |
| 17:25.34 | Anduin|IsMounted | we cook out own steaks here |
| 17:25.51 | Anduin|IsMounted | I have a place in my heart for saugases too tho |
| 17:25.59 | Anduin|IsMounted | kielbassa esp |
| 17:26.06 | Anduin|IsMounted | and hot links |
| 17:26.11 | Anduin|IsMounted | cheep and fast |
| 17:26.17 | futrtrubl | way do you insist on making me hungry? |
| 17:26.18 | Tain | Yeah, I do like a nice spicy or hot sausage. |
| 17:26.37 | Anduin|IsMounted | but steak or pasta with sausage when i have time |
| 17:26.39 | Tain | Kielbasa is so fast and easy to cook, and tastes so good. |
| 17:26.47 | futrtrubl | one of the things I miss from England, Chipolatas |
| 17:26.48 | Anduin|IsMounted | i know |
| 17:26.54 | Anduin|IsMounted | mm? |
| 17:27.22 | Tain | Of course I have a gas grill right outside my front door and use it year-round. Even in the snow. |
| 17:27.37 | Anduin|IsMounted | ya, i'm sad, we have no grill |
| 17:27.43 | Anduin|IsMounted | we do um in the skillet |
| 17:27.59 | Tain | While it's certainly no charcoal grill, it is great to have handy. |
| 17:28.14 | Anduin|IsMounted | charcol grills need lots of air |
| 17:28.24 | Tain | Yeah, I do also either cook them up stovetop, or broil in the oven. |
| 17:28.28 | Tain | Yeah, and lots of time to heat up. |
| 17:28.39 | Anduin|IsMounted | yup |
| 17:28.41 | Tain | It's just one of those things I'll only do if it's going to be an all-day affair. |
| 17:29.00 | Anduin|IsMounted | mmm, i love shieskibabs tooo |
| 17:29.10 | Anduin|IsMounted | esp with warm pineapple |
| 17:30.01 | Tain | My uncle took a 50 gallon steel drum and had it sliced in half length-wise and made a grill out of it. When he throws a BBQ he can cook everything at once. |
| 17:30.08 | Tain | It's just an amazing thing. |
| 17:30.13 | Anduin|IsMounted | :) seen those |
| 17:30.41 | Anduin|IsMounted | more charcole to cook alla t once tho |
| 17:32.26 | Anduin|IsMounted | heh.. my commented and self debugging hook function is 100 lines long |
| 17:32.45 | Cide | not sure what the longest function I've written is |
| 17:32.47 | Verlaine | ok this is killing me |
| 17:32.56 | Anduin|IsMounted | oh, it's def not the longest |
| 17:33.02 | Verlaine | could someone take a look at my add on and explain why my varaibles aren't saving? |
| 17:33.06 | Anduin|IsMounted | was just thinking of my poor OnUpdate hooks |
| 17:33.07 | Cide | I'm just saying |
| 17:33.44 | Cide | Verlaine == shouryuu? |
| 17:33.56 | Anduin|IsMounted | prolly my longest is either the config function in arch or ChatFrame_OnEvent in Sky |
| 17:34.05 | Verlaine | yar |
| 17:34.11 | Verlaine | i need to kick myself again |
| 17:34.29 | Verlaine | but I always forget how |
| 17:34.39 | Cide | CTRA's parse message function is 513 lines |
| 17:34.46 | Cide | not sure if that's the longest one |
| 17:34.59 | Cide | /ns ghost <nick> <password> |
| 17:35.18 | Verlaine | w00t |
| 17:35.25 | Verlaine | brb |
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| 17:35.37 | Tain | If anyone's looking for a job, Burger King in New Orleans is offering a $6000 bonus due to lack of workers. |
| 17:36.03 | shouryuu | lol |
| 17:38.28 | Anduin|IsMounted | ya, the table alone that feeds the arch config registration is 100 lines, and each one is a sub table with 4 or 5 entries |
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| 17:39.31 | Anduin|IsMounted | and the mcom registration func itself in arch is 650 line |
| 17:40.18 | Anduin|IsMounted | and has like 5 50 line for loops in it |
| 17:40.53 | Anduin|Class | cyaz |
| 17:41.11 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 17:44.47 | Kaelten | damn thats one hell of a bonus |
| 17:44.54 | Kaelten | hehe, I could buy the laptop I want, hehe |
| 17:55.06 | futrtrubl | rawr yourself ;'] |
| 17:58.01 | Kaelten | I'm just glad memory prices are down, the one I was looking at a few months ago was like 450 now its down to 250 |
| 17:59.05 | Tain | I'm so broke I can't even afford to pay attention. |
| 17:59.35 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 17:59.39 | Kaelten | I know what you mean |
| 17:59.39 | shouryuu | hey furt, I've translated most of your add-on I just need to find out how to translated Rested, fully rested, unrested, and pet. |
| 17:59.58 | Kaelten | la bete |
| 18:00.04 | Tain | To what language? |
| 18:01.47 | Tain | I'm so sad, my Tracking Auto Alert addon works from a technical standpoint, but I don't think it'll realistically be usable by most. |
| 18:02.55 | shouryuu | tain- to hindu |
| 18:05.01 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Eraphine|Lab (n=Eraphine@brenna.human.cornell.edu) |
| 18:06.02 | Tain | Hindu! |
| 18:06.19 | Tain | There's Hindu localization in WoW? |
| 18:08.25 | shouryuu | :p |
| 18:08.28 | shouryuu | no it's in french |
| 18:09.02 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Natasem (n=Natasem@h-64-105-32-25.snvacaid.covad.net) |
| 18:09.49 | End-working | I wanted to do pretendingtowork, but that didn' |
| 18:09.50 | End-working | t fit |
| 18:10.04 | End-working | and dammit, I need to not hit enter on accident |
| 18:10.46 | Eraphine|Lab | Can someone point me to a link where I can decipher what patthern, for name in string.gfind(msg, "%(%a+)%") do |
| 18:10.47 | Tain | French! |
| 18:10.55 | Eraphine|Lab | is looking for? |
| 18:10.55 | Tain | There's French localization in WoW?! |
| 18:10.57 | shouryuu | could someone look at my add on and jsut explain why my varaibles won't save? |
| 18:11.00 | shouryuu | yup |
| 18:11.06 | Tain | Lua 5.0 Handbook, on lua.org |
| 18:11.10 | shouryuu | yup |
| 18:11.12 | Eraphine|Lab | thanks |
| 18:11.20 | Tain | It explains all the pattern matching. |
| 18:11.37 | Tain | Under the mmmm String Manipulateion setting I think |
| 18:12.10 | Eraphine|Lab | sorry is the handbook different from the reference manual? |
| 18:12.11 | shouryuu | and yes tain there is a french localization in WoW |
| 18:12.25 | shouryuu | I didn't translate the localisation, only the add on text though... |
| 18:12.46 | Eraphine|Lab | nm I found it - thanks tain |
| 18:13.19 | shouryuu | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#5.3 |
| 18:16.23 | shouryuu | so no volunteers? |
| 18:16.25 | Tain | Reference manual is the same thing, I was probably mixing the naems anyway. |
| 18:16.46 | Tain | ~x en fr rested |
| 18:17.00 | Tain | ! |
| 18:17.04 | End-working | !! |
| 18:19.14 | Eraphine|Lab | I don't understand what "%(%a+)%" corresponds to after reading that. |
| 18:19.28 | Eraphine|Lab | I understand that %a is a word |
| 18:19.36 | Eraphine|Lab | sorry a letter |
| 18:20.04 | Eraphine|Lab | actually.. it's not even coming out right as I type it. |
| 18:20.20 | Eraphine|Lab | %(%a+)% |
| 18:20.35 | Eraphine|Lab | for some reason it is dropping a % off the beginning and end of the what I type. |
| 18:20.54 | MoonWolf | what are u using as an editor ? |
| 18:21.05 | Eraphine|Lab | I'm typing it directly into the xchat edit box |
| 18:21.31 | Eraphine|Lab | and when I press enter, and the message appears in the channel, it's missing % from the beginning and end of the string I just typed |
| 18:21.52 | MoonWolf | hmm let me try |
| 18:22.01 | MoonWolf | %(%a+)% |
| 18:22.06 | Eraphine|Lab | hehe |
| 18:22.36 | MoonWolf | working fine over here i think. |
| 18:22.46 | Eraphine|Lab | try typing % |
| 18:22.52 | Eraphine|Lab | type two % in a row and press enter |
| 18:22.56 | MoonWolf | %% |
| 18:22.59 | Eraphine|Lab | wierd.. |
| 18:23.01 | MoonWolf | % |
| 18:23.04 | MoonWolf | works good. |
| 18:23.15 | Eraphine|Lab | I guess my editbox is donig something screwy |
| 18:23.34 | Eraphine|Lab | anyway - I don't understand what %%(%a+)%% means. |
| 18:23.52 | kergoth | %% is a real %, escaped, iirc |
| 18:24.14 | Eraphine|Lab | oh |
| 18:27.21 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Eraphine|Disco (n=Eraphine@brenna.human.cornell.edu) |
| 18:28.10 | Eraphine|Lab | sorry about that. |
| 18:29.07 | Tain | Yeah so it's look for a text pattern beginning and ending with a percent sign. |
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| 18:38.04 | Cair | Anduin|Class: you there? |
| 18:38.07 | Tain | Morning Cair! |
| 18:38.12 | Cair | hey Tain |
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| 19:07.34 | Natasem | http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/print.php?story_id_key=8230 |
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| 19:09.08 | shouryuu | RAWR |
| 19:09.13 | shouryuu | woops caps |
| 19:09.15 | Cair | *purr* |
| 19:10.06 | shouryuu | So how's life been lately? |
| 19:10.35 | Cair | damn sight better since I got rid of the blasted migraine |
| 19:11.56 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Stylpe (n=Stylpe@15.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:12.02 | shouryuu | lol |
| 19:12.13 | shouryuu | my life juuust started sucking a bit more |
| 19:13.08 | shouryuu | a *bit* more |
| 19:13.18 | shouryuu | but meh |
| 19:13.26 | Cair | what happened? |
| 19:13.28 | shouryuu | life goes on |
| 19:13.46 | shouryuu | loooooonnnnggggggg story |
| 19:13.53 | shouryuu | (emphasise on long here) |
| 19:13.55 | shouryuu | but it sucked |
| 19:14.26 | Cair | sorry to hear it |
| 19:15.05 | shouryuu | :P |
| 19:16.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Stylpe (n=Stylpe@15.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:17.02 | End | I'll just stop pretending |
| 19:17.15 | Cair | lol |
| 19:17.22 | shouryuu | haha |
| 19:21.27 | Anduin|Class | i'm here now |
| 19:21.37 | shouryuu | man I saw a warrior with a +1 crit chance on spells and +11mana/5sec sword |
| 19:21.40 | shouryuu | made me cry |
| 19:21.43 | Eraphine|Lab | boy i'm retarded |
| 19:21.44 | shouryuu | my eyebalss out |
| 19:21.50 | Cair | already dealt with what I was going to ask you, so no worries |
| 19:21.53 | Eraphine|Lab | arg2 of event chat_msg_whisper is the name of the whisperer |
| 19:21.54 | Anduin|Class | for a while anyway |
| 19:21.59 | Eraphine|Lab | who needs to even parse! |
| 19:22.01 | Anduin|Class | oh? |
| 19:22.17 | Anduin|Class | musta been important |
| 19:22.26 | Cair | *shrug* |
| 19:22.44 | Cair | wasn't either important or unimportant, just something I was curious about |
| 19:22.51 | AnduinLothar | mmhmm |
| 19:23.06 | AnduinLothar | anyone got an email on iriel? |
| 19:23.31 | shouryuu | vigilantesoething@something.something |
| 19:23.40 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 19:23.44 | End | lol |
| 19:23.45 | shouryuu | always happy to help |
| 19:24.31 | Eraphine|Lab | iriel@vigilance-committee.org |
| 19:24.40 | shouryuu | not THAT far away |
| 19:24.53 | shouryuu | there was the vigil which was correct |
| 19:24.55 | AnduinLothar | blah, i dont like this format... is there an official lua-doc format or should i just use the 'alex-standard' format |
| 19:25.15 | shouryuu | format of what? |
| 19:25.30 | AnduinLothar | hode header comments for output of documentation |
| 19:25.36 | AnduinLothar | code* |
| 19:25.45 | AnduinLothar | thx eraph |
| 19:26.00 | kergoth | there is a luadoc project. |
| 19:26.08 | AnduinLothar | it any good? |
| 19:26.22 | AnduinLothar | out of alpha? |
| 19:26.27 | kergoth | not bad. the markup format is quite good, and can always enhance it to produce pertier html |
| 19:26.38 | kergoth | so i always markup my code |
| 19:26.42 | AnduinLothar | sweet, got a link? |
| 19:26.51 | kergoth | yeah, give me a second to find it.. |
| 19:26.56 | shouryuu | for us chinese lovers |
| 19:26.57 | shouryuu | http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:s0T46Ugyqg8J:hax.users.whitehat.dk/nihao.html%3Fi%3D9253+%22hax.users.whitehat.dk/nihao.html%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a |
| 19:27.12 | kergoth | okay, here's the main one -> http://luaforge.net/projects/luadoc/ |
| 19:27.21 | AnduinLothar | i play with chinese people now with my west coast really late/early hours |
| 19:27.21 | kergoth | theres no release, but you can check out its code from cvs |
| 19:27.36 | kergoth | or you can use the teeny one included with teh code for hte lua standard libraries effort |
| 19:28.05 | kergoth | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/stdlib/utils/ ... ldoc in there |
| 19:28.21 | shouryuu | well learn chinese now Anduin! |
| 19:29.34 | AnduinLothar | i'll just feed it through bablefish |
| 19:29.57 | AnduinLothar | i actually get chinese email spam |
| 19:30.03 | AnduinLothar | is that usual? |
| 19:31.06 | shouryuu | lol |
| 19:31.07 | shouryuu | nope |
| 19:31.07 | Cair | out for a couple hours guys, have fun |
| 19:31.15 | shouryuu | see yar |
| 19:31.20 | kergoth | i have a seperate rule in my email filtering that stuffs chinese or other asian character mail into a seperate spam box by default :P |
| 19:31.21 | AnduinLothar | ... i keep trying to shift-mousewheel-scroll to top/bottom in my various computer apps |
| 19:31.49 | shouryuu | i always alt-left keyboard... |
| 19:31.59 | kergoth | i keep using alt to try to select things in vim |
| 19:32.03 | kergoth | its annoying indeed |
| 19:32.08 | AnduinLothar | damn... so much time spent with the wow chatscroll where i can just change anything i want.. |
| 19:32.17 | shouryuu | lol |
| 19:32.29 | AnduinLothar | hell, i bet i could make it scroll horazontally |
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| 19:33.10 | shouryuu | I've discovered something interesting |
| 19:33.24 | AnduinLothar | would have to make my own scroll bar with rotated images... and then figure out how to oclude frames.. |
| 19:33.29 | kergoth | i keep forgetting to enable the thing wher eyou dont need to hold alt in chatscroll |
| 19:33.47 | shouryuu | if an error message is more than 3 lines long when you print it in your chat frame, it goes ...something/hyayafa/error/haha/usuck.... |
| 19:33.50 | AnduinLothar | doesn't that make it hard to move? |
| 19:34.52 | AnduinLothar | bah SVN >> CVS |
| 19:35.01 | AnduinLothar | now i have to install another client... |
| 19:35.01 | kergoth | indeed, svn is wonderful |
| 19:35.18 | kergoth | i converted the upstream lua standard libraries code from cvs to svn for my own use, including history :D |
| 19:35.34 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 19:35.52 | AnduinLothar | so u have the luadoc on private svn? |
| 19:36.39 | kergoth | that stdlib one, yeah. the upstream luadoc, not yet, but i can |
| 19:36.42 | kergoth | check out svk sometime |
| 19:36.52 | kergoth | it lets you take an upstream svn or cvs repo and bring it into a local mirror, including all history |
| 19:37.01 | kergoth | so you can check things into and out of it without a net connection.. you can go offline |
| 19:37.07 | kergoth | peer to peer development with svn/cvs |
| 19:37.10 | kergoth | :D |
| 19:37.47 | AnduinLothar | right, heard u evangelizing it earlier |
| 19:38.13 | AnduinLothar | but then i dont have a laptop so im always online |
| 19:43.58 | kergoth | yeah, me neither :( |
| 19:46.45 | shouryuu | http://thc.org/root/phun/unmaintain.html |
| 19:46.54 | *** join/#wowi-lounge kremonte (n=polx@ool-18bba44d.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:47.21 | kremonte | is everyone afk? =O |
| 19:48.07 | AnduinLothar | ya, i'm actually filling out an email interview for a phd student that emailed me.. |
| 19:49.08 | End | of course I'm afk |
| 19:49.08 | kremonte | you're famous! ^_^ |
| 19:49.08 | End | I wouldn't be a good ircer if I was actually here. |
| 19:49.11 | kremonte | no no, to be a good irc'er you don't go afk, you "idle" |
| 19:49.18 | AnduinLothar | ya, i was kinda surprised |
| 19:49.18 | End | true true |
| 19:50.02 | AnduinLothar | she's doing her phd on education technology and is doing her thesis on MMO's |
| 19:54.28 | pagefault | hey kergoth |
| 19:55.49 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Iriel (n=daniel@adsl-66-123-190-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 19:55.55 | kremonte | hihi iriel |
| 19:56.05 | Iriel | Morning/Afternoon |
| 19:56.30 | kremonte | it's only morning in like 2 timezones :o |
| 19:56.36 | AnduinLothar | hey, its just the man i wanted to see |
| 19:57.14 | AnduinLothar | i couldn't get ur method to work persay, and i made a ton of other changes so how bout i show u what i got iriel? |
| 19:57.52 | pagefault | internation greeting time states it's always morning when you first see a person |
| 19:57.56 | pagefault | err international |
| 19:58.02 | pagefault | or universal greeting time |
| 19:58.16 | kremonte | what about "g'day" |
| 19:58.17 | AnduinLothar | i just say morning in person, all the time |
| 19:58.17 | kremonte | :P |
| 19:58.48 | AnduinLothar | online i use whatever greating tickles my fancy, usually non greatings |
| 19:58.51 | kremonte | well, time-ly speaking, i usually say good afternoon after 2pm EST to people i know, and good afternoon in general after 5 EST |
| 19:59.07 | kremonte | because then the only time zone before noon is hawaii's? i think |
| 19:59.16 | Iriel | Well, this was the borderline, 11:56am pacific |
| 19:59.28 | Iriel | So I figured i'd hedge my bets against people with poorly set clocks |
| 19:59.32 | kremonte | yeah, what time zone is alaska in anyway? |
| 19:59.32 | Iriel | or living east of me |
| 19:59.33 | AnduinLothar | i saw good morning to my manager when i go in for night shifts at 7pm |
| 19:59.44 | AnduinLothar | say* |
| 19:59.48 | kremonte | o_O |
| 19:59.56 | kremonte | noone does that around here |
| 20:00.30 | Iriel | AnduinLothar: Sure, I take it the version I uploaded had some 'issues' ? |
| 20:01.33 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 20:02.08 | AnduinLothar | how do u want it? |
| 20:04.29 | Iriel | Something I can download is easiest |
| 20:08.08 | AnduinLothar | http://karlkfi.no-ip.com/games/wow/SeaHooks_0.3a.zip |
| 20:11.16 | Iriel | Got it, i'll take a look in a bit.. |
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| 20:18.09 | End | "You found it! ... Wait... There's nothing here.." |
| 20:18.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | So Lua doesn't have strong types.. The way to tell the difference between a float and an Int is string.find(".") right? |
| 20:19.14 | Iriel | There is no int type |
| 20:19.18 | Iriel | everything is a floating point number |
| 20:19.41 | Nomad_Wanderer | hmm... How do I make sure that someone is using whole numbers? |
| 20:19.52 | Iriel | math.floor(number) == number |
| 20:19.53 | Iriel | ? |
| 20:19.54 | AnduinLothar | round/floor |
| 20:20.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'll look into the math library thanks |
| 20:22.35 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmm.. the docs say "Same as the C library", and the pil doesn't really cover it.. Taking Iriel's statement a little further if (math.floor(number) == number) then numberIsWhole=true; else numberIsWhole=false; end ? |
| 20:23.37 | Iriel | yes |
| 20:23.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | thanks. |
| 20:23.54 | Iriel | function isInteger(number) return number and math.floor(number)==number end |
| 20:24.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm not that elegant yet :) |
| 20:24.40 | AnduinLothar | function is exsessive unless ur callign a lot |
| 20:24.56 | Iriel | I dunno, it aids readability |
| 20:25.03 | Iriel | I would make it a local function though |
| 20:25.06 | Nomad_Wanderer | More functions! Less Filling! |
| 20:25.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | More Functions! |
| 20:25.24 | Nomad_Wanderer | Less filling? :) |
| 20:26.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | purl, unfunny? |
| 20:27.27 | End | pie has more filling? |
| 20:31.48 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can someone answer a highlevel cosmos question? |
| 20:32.15 | kremonte | ask the question first :p |
| 20:32.34 | Nomad_Wanderer | :) It's about earth.. Is there a cosmos library that helps making Tree lists? Is that earth? |
| 20:34.06 | Nomad_Wanderer | I just found the questlog tutorial in the wiki... |
| 20:34.08 | Nomad_Wanderer | never mind |
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| 20:34.58 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 20:35.04 | AnduinLothar | Earth has Trees |
| 20:35.22 | AnduinLothar | that's what PartyQuests and Khaos and ChannelManager and Fire use |
| 20:35.43 | Tain | And down in this corner let's paint a happy little tree. |
| 20:36.02 | Nomad_Wanderer | I haven't seen fire before.. Where can I learn about that? |
| 20:36.32 | AnduinLothar | it should be in the developer package availible on the site or by exe |
| 20:36.49 | AnduinLothar | remember to enable it, cause it's disabled by default |
| 20:36.56 | AnduinLothar | and is really only half complete |
| 20:37.03 | kremonte | what's fire do? |
| 20:37.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | ^^^ |
| 20:37.32 | AnduinLothar | basicly it's graphical variable representation in trees |
| 20:38.11 | AnduinLothar | http://karlkfi.no-ip.com/games/wow/screenshots/FireWindowTableEval.jpg |
| 20:38.45 | AnduinLothar | the system manager tab does nothing atm |
| 20:38.53 | AnduinLothar | it's just a debugging tool |
| 20:39.03 | AnduinLothar | but i use it all the time |
| 20:40.21 | kremonte | ~flexbar |
| 20:40.22 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, flexbar is a button creation/manipulation addon. You can find its forums at http://www.flexbarforums.com/ |
| 20:40.29 | kremonte | there we go |
| 20:40.32 | kremonte | i don't have to google now |
| 20:50.24 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~cosmos |
| 20:50.25 | purl | [cosmos] The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be. -Carl Sagan |
| 20:52.19 | shouryuu | what would time do? |
| 20:53.02 | shouryuu | ~time |
| 20:53.03 | purl | 2005.11.21 20:53:03 GMT |
| 20:53.06 | shouryuu | great |
| 20:53.06 | kremonte | are there any mods where you can get shapeshift form name? |
| 20:53.08 | shouryuu | definition |
| 20:53.19 | shouryuu | no idea |
| 20:53.32 | kremonte | bah time t'make one |
| 20:53.46 | shouryuu | :P |
| 20:53.51 | shouryuu | ~infinity |
| 20:53.53 | purl | well, infinity is ibot: message for ibot: infinity |
| 20:54.07 | shouryuu | ugh? |
| 20:54.23 | shouryuu | I might have gotten that one but meh |
| 20:54.29 | kremonte | if you do something like, local a,b,c = abc(); are all a, b, and c local? |
| 20:54.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | I think so yes. |
| 20:54.58 | Nomad_Wanderer | then again tho.. |
| 20:55.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~Nomad_Wanderer |
| 20:55.03 | purl | well, nomad_wanderer is a lua Noob, but trying! |
| 20:55.53 | shouryuu | muahha |
| 20:55.55 | shouryuu | ~me |
| 20:55.56 | purl | you are, like, an annoying forum troll |
| 20:56.03 | shouryuu | purl is so cool |
| 20:56.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~botsnack |
| 20:56.12 | purl | Nomad_Wanderer: :) |
| 20:56.28 | kremonte | ~emulate shouryuu |
| 20:56.29 | purl | why am i a troll priest?" |
| 20:56.35 | kremonte | ~botsnack |
| 20:56.35 | purl | aw, gee, kremonte |
| 20:56.48 | kremonte | ~feed purl |
| 20:56.49 | purl | offers purl some |
| 20:56.56 | kremonte | boo |
| 20:57.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | Do you have to have an emulate entry to be emulated? |
| 20:57.20 | kremonte | ~literal emulate kremonte |
| 20:57.30 | kremonte | ~emulate me |
| 20:57.35 | kremonte | guess not ;p |
| 20:57.41 | Nomad_Wanderer | ~emulate Nomad_Wanderer |
| 20:58.00 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yep.. :) |
| 20:58.15 | kremonte | i don't have enough of a personality to be emulated |
| 20:58.17 | shouryuu | well im off |
| 20:58.18 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 20:58.27 | kremonte | i think the best i could do is |
| 20:58.43 | kremonte | ~emulate kremonte is "<reply> i'm so confused..." |
| 20:58.44 | purl | okay, kremonte |
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| 21:01.46 | kremonte | lua for loops are for i=#,conditions for break[,interval] right? |
| 21:03.29 | Iriel | err.. no |
| 21:03.41 | Iriel | for i=start,end[,step] do stuff end |
| 21:03.51 | kremonte | so end can't be another condition? >< |
| 21:04.12 | kremonte | i want to do for i=1,isActive do foo() end |
| 21:04.27 | Iriel | use a while loop |
| 21:04.53 | kremonte | so while not isActive do foo() end? |
| 21:05.03 | Iriel | something like that, yes |
| 21:05.05 | kremonte | kk |
| 21:05.15 | Iriel | or you could write an iterator function, but that is probably overkill for your needs |
| 21:05.19 | Iriel | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#2.4.5 |
| 21:05.24 | Iriel | All the gory details about 'for' |
| 21:05.32 | kremonte | i just want to go through it 3 times, but i wanna do it the lazy way |
| 21:05.41 | Iriel | well, you could do |
| 21:05.43 | kremonte | don't like copy/pastes in my code >< |
| 21:05.53 | Iriel | for i=1,3 do if (isActive) then break; end stuff end |
| 21:06.00 | kremonte | ah |
| 21:06.11 | kremonte | thanks |
| 21:06.25 | AnduinLothar | or just make it a while |
| 21:06.36 | kremonte | stop making fun of me |
| 21:06.42 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 21:06.45 | AnduinLothar | i wasn't |
| 21:06.53 | kremonte | i know, i just say that often |
| 21:06.56 | AnduinLothar | a while loop |
| 21:07.01 | kremonte | this is probably already done anyway |
| 21:07.16 | kremonte | i'm just iterating through getshapeshiftform() to see what stance i'm in |
| 21:07.24 | End | when I convert a for loop to a while loop I always forget to make it increment :X |
| 21:07.27 | Iriel | make afunction with the loop |
| 21:07.49 | AnduinLothar | local i=1; while ((i <=3) and (not isActive)) do blah i=i+1; end |
| 21:08.13 | kremonte | lol, i am definitely overcomplicating this X) |
| 21:08.16 | Iriel | function getCurrentForm() for i=1,GetNumShapeshiftForms() do local _,_,isActive = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(i); if isActive return i end end end |
| 21:08.21 | Iriel | returns the form number, or nil |
| 21:08.34 | kremonte | oh! i didn't know GetNumShapeshiftForms() existed |
| 21:08.46 | kremonte | _ = fake value? |
| 21:08.52 | Iriel | just a dummy local |
| 21:08.55 | kremonte | nice |
| 21:09.01 | Iriel | idiomatic convention, rather than a language feature |
| 21:09.11 | kremonte | i might actually know a reasonable amount of lua by the time WoW 3 comes out |
| 21:09.12 | Iriel | (I believe the mysterious lua 5.1 provides a better way to do ti) |
| 21:09.13 | AnduinLothar | still saves it, u just dont use it |
| 21:09.35 | End | it makes it clear which you are using though |
| 21:09.36 | AnduinLothar | ya 5.1 has a way to grab a return value of your choice |
| 21:10.18 | kremonte | like isActive = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(i)[3]? |
| 21:12.01 | kremonte | hrm, would if(form == 1) be true always? |
| 21:12.13 | AnduinLothar | did wow come out a year ago tonight, guys? |
| 21:12.18 | kremonte | (best way to make sure i'm getting the number one, not true/false)? |
| 21:12.18 | AnduinLothar | or do i have th edate wrong |
| 21:12.19 | Tain | Slouken says no Lua 5.1 plans. :( |
| 21:16.41 | AnduinLothar | k, so tomorrow night |
| 21:16.45 | AnduinLothar | 1 Year of Live WoW |
| 21:17.11 | pagefault | I started a priest |
| 21:17.11 | pagefault | yay |
| 21:18.18 | kergoth | Tain: aw :( |
| 21:18.28 | kremonte | ;( |
| 21:21.13 | kremonte | what order are the druid shapeshift buttons in? |
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| 21:28.11 | Astryl | Bear->SeaLion->Cat->Travel |
| 21:31.30 | kremonte | thanks Astryl, their names are Bear Form, Aquatic Form, Cat Form, and Travel Form - right? |
| 21:35.59 | futrtrubl | what are the normal clicks a button is registered for? I believe it's LeftButton but I'm not sure if it's Up or Down. |
| 21:55.54 | AnduinLothar | had any chance to look at it iriel? |
| 21:59.23 | Iriel | Not yet.. monday, and all that 8-) Though I just got a fresh cold coke so maybe now 8-) |
| 21:59.52 | AnduinLothar | mmm. i've imbibed WAY too much mt dew this weekend... |
| 21:59.58 | AnduinLothar | need something solid |
| 22:00.08 | Iriel | I take it it's SeaHooksObj I want to be looking at? |
| 22:00.25 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 22:00.30 | AnduinLothar | not really |
| 22:00.44 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 22:00.50 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
| 22:01.06 | AnduinLothar | run an open diff on um and see what i changed |
| 22:01.16 | AnduinLothar | niether is directly urse |
| 22:01.50 | AnduinLothar | it seemed that after i would make local duplicates i would always have to back them up after i modified them |
| 22:02.04 | AnduinLothar | which is what i did in the SeaHooks.lua |
| 22:02.32 | AnduinLothar | SeaHooksObj is just a duplicate of an older revision that was closer to yours but not working |
| 22:03.00 | Iriel | The local object stuff looks good. |
| 22:03.01 | Iriel | I |
| 22:03.19 | AnduinLothar | I have found that passing local vars to lamdba functions generally defines them at the time the function is defined |
| 22:03.21 | Iriel | I'm still not sure why unhook creates a hook object if there isn't a hook there yet, instead of just returning |
| 22:03.35 | Iriel | yes, they're bound at function creation time |
| 22:03.55 | Iriel | which can either be a cool trick, or a devilishly tricky thing to debug, depending on whether you meant to do it 8-) |
| 22:04.39 | AnduinLothar | various reasons, the main one is which you always want the orig grabbed as soon as possible but if u dont want to actually have it hooked to onvars loaded u might want to unhook onload so that the orig is as close to the real orig as possible |
| 22:05.03 | Iriel | sounds like a hack to me 8-) |
| 22:05.09 | AnduinLothar | it is |
| 22:05.10 | Iriel | Maybe add a 'prepForHook' function |
| 22:05.30 | AnduinLothar | possibly |
| 22:05.49 | AnduinLothar | it'be be identical minus the end code portion |
| 22:06.08 | Iriel | The one thing I dont see here which I did in my code (I half see it, tho) is to pass the object rather than the name in the hook function |
| 22:06.30 | AnduinLothar | ya, i couldn't get that to work relyably |
| 22:06.46 | Iriel | though I made my version work both ways |
| 22:07.03 | AnduinLothar | it would always define the table and then it wouldn't be updated after the first hook as far as i could tell |
| 22:07.29 | AnduinLothar | i spent all last nigh debugging it |
| 22:07.53 | Iriel | That sounds like a problem where the hook info table was being 'lost' |
| 22:08.20 | Iriel | Yes |
| 22:08.43 | Iriel | You forgot to assign Sea.util.Hooks[compoundOrig] = hookObj in the hook init function |
| 22:09.20 | AnduinLothar | mmm, it's before the return |
| 22:09.29 | AnduinLothar | of the successful hook |
| 22:10.16 | Iriel | Hm, let me look again |
| 22:11.04 | Iriel | Oh, so it is.. odd place for it tho |
| 22:11.52 | AnduinLothar | needs to be after the ones just before it and before the return and doesn't need to call at all if no hook is defined |
| 22:12.43 | Iriel | The problem is, once you've called hookInit, you've installed the hook |
| 22:12.49 | Iriel | so you should be remembering the object RIGHT THERE |
| 22:12.55 | Iriel | regardless of whether you DO anything with it |
| 22:13.12 | AnduinLothar | mmm, good point |
| 22:13.35 | AnduinLothar | ok well that's the way it works :P |
| 22:13.48 | AnduinLothar | there's one outside the loop |
| 22:13.55 | Iriel | well, there's a reasonable chance it NOT doing it that way is part of why passing the object doesn't work. |
| 22:14.04 | Iriel | or doesn't always work anyway |
| 22:14.11 | AnduinLothar | ? |
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| 22:14.42 | AnduinLothar | u lookign at hook or unhhok atm? |
| 22:14.51 | Iriel | I've been hopping between both |
| 22:15.28 | AnduinLothar | well i can easily define it in the init |
| 22:15.40 | AnduinLothar | and redefine at the end of a workign function |
| 22:15.47 | Iriel | but unhook is the one that can return BEFORE that assignment |
| 22:15.57 | Iriel | Well, why would you redefine? |
| 22:16.21 | Iriel | You never redefine, the whole reason that the object-not-name binding would work is that you always keep the same table |
| 22:16.27 | Iriel | You simply change its contents to change the hook |
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| 22:16.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | Wow.. Where did this parental control stuff come from? |
| 22:16.48 | AnduinLothar | idelly |
| 22:16.57 | AnduinLothar | ideally |
| 22:17.19 | AnduinLothar | not convinced that works irriel |
| 22:18.43 | Nomad_Wanderer | Better set this up for my account before my wife comes home and sets it up for me ;) |
| 22:20.27 | Iriel | Heh, spousal control? |
| 22:20.47 | Astryl | Hey Iriel, I don't get your last comment on the thread about the 'Banned' addons... What do you mean? |
| 22:22.20 | Nomad_Wanderer | On the new splash page, there is an entry in the news about new Wow Parental Controls |
| 22:23.34 | Iriel | Astryl: The reason that Lozareth couldn't find the addon code was that all of the 'recent' GlueXML code is in patch.mpq |
| 22:23.47 | Astryl | Right, its your 2nd line that I don't get. |
| 22:24.00 | Astryl | How do addons being banned relate to accounts being banned>? |
| 22:24.04 | Iriel | Astryl: Or, if you meant the other bit, an earlier comment led me to suspect that the player in question had been banned from the game, so perhaps the 'banned' return code was coming from that |
| 22:24.40 | Iriel | Astryl: I'm not disputing that in the end things like decursive would come out that way, just hypothesising as to why someone saw it NOW. |
| 22:25.31 | Astryl | So you're saying that this code to mark some addons as banned is always there, it's just inactive unless the account you're logging in on is banned? |
| 22:25.54 | Iriel | The code to report a 'banned' addon if the client returns that code is there already. |
| 22:26.46 | Iriel | I'm just wondering if perhaps the reason it chose to return that code could have been due to a banned account, rather than some strange accidental enabling of something addon specific |
| 22:27.08 | Nomad_Wanderer | What lua editors are you all using? I'm using scite. It has good ending parenthesis, and reserved word highlighting, but doesn't help me with Ends. I have an extra end, and I don't know where :( Is there an editor that has more features? |
| 22:27.09 | Astryl | Is GetAddonInfo defined in Lua, or in the C? |
| 22:27.15 | Iriel | emacs + lua-mode |
| 22:27.19 | Iriel | It's defined in the C |
| 22:27.22 | Iriel | well C++ |
| 22:27.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | emacs.... How about something less ascii :) |
| 22:28.17 | Nomad_Wanderer | (everyone knows VI is better anyway... :P) |
| 22:28.21 | Nomad_Wanderer | :) |
| 22:28.31 | Iriel | emacs supports unicode, so it's hardly ASCII anymore |
| 22:28.42 | Iriel | I get full syntax coloring as well |
| 22:28.58 | Nomad_Wanderer | Are using an Xemacs? or a regular? |
| 22:29.14 | Iriel | 'regular' gnu emacs |
| 22:29.19 | Iriel | I never could get the hang of xemacs |
| 22:29.25 | cladhaire | I can't stand xemacs =( |
| 22:29.26 | Iriel | the interface bugs me |
| 22:30.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | Ugh.. Whats a better way to find a missing or extra end? |
| 22:31.01 | cladhaire | compile the code and see where the loose function starts =) |
| 22:31.19 | cladhaire | err.. interpret.. compiling isn't really necessary |
| 22:32.16 | Iriel | Download and install a standalone lua environment and run the file in there |
| 22:32.28 | cladhaire | yeah, what he said |
| 22:32.30 | cladhaire | = |
| 22:33.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | Does Error: Interface\AddOns\GenAH\GenAH.lua:293: <eof> expected near `end' typically mean an extra one? or too many? |
| 22:33.36 | Nomad_Wanderer | Where can I get a standalone lua environment? |
| 22:33.39 | Iriel | extra |
| 22:34.00 | Iriel | that message means 'I got an end when I expected to see the end of the file' |
| 22:34.11 | kergoth | Nomad_Wanderer: lua.org has links to the lua binaries project |
| 22:34.14 | Iriel | more or less, anyway |
| 22:34.36 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks. |
| 22:38.49 | AnduinLothar | mmm, fell asleep there, that's no good |
| 22:39.52 | Tsurani | what letters are imprented on your forehead ? |
| 22:40.37 | AnduinLothar | actually i have my comforter with e adn it's liek 85 degrees in here |
| 22:43.49 | AnduinLothar | ok, well i'm gonna go. i'll ttyl. if u find anyhting else u think could be done difforently better i me up |
| 22:52.18 | Iriel | Take care |
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| 23:01.00 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2463 |
| 23:01.29 | Cair | Some of you may be interested in that ... |
| 23:03.29 | Iriel | They should be hiring testers and developers first |
| 23:03.35 | Iriel | *mutter mutter mutter* |
| 23:03.56 | Iriel | bah, meeting time, bbiab |
| 23:04.13 | Cair | later Iriel |
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| 23:51.22 | Rown1 | ... Cair actually allowed a bot? |
| 23:59.15 | Cair | yup |
