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| 18:14.29 | equiraptor | I'm exceted about melee hunters coming back (based on http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/13199-wow-legion-interview-with-tom-chilton-ion-hazzikostas/). |
| 18:14.56 | equiraptor | I thought the melee-focused survival players were mostly a little silly, but that it waas still a nice variation on the class. |
| 18:15.14 | equiraptor | I have no want to play one, but it's a neat thing to put in / make available. |
| 18:25.53 | Amarande | demon hunters are using leather too ... |
| 18:26.06 | Amarande | you know, the issue with that isn't competition for loot so much these days because of personal loot |
| 18:26.19 | Amarande | the issue with that is they're getting way too lopsided with the armour types |
| 18:26.33 | Amarande | esp, we're getting forty billion classes that use leather and plate, and still only the two that use mail |
| 18:26.54 | equiraptor | Yeah. |
| 18:27.25 | equiraptor | Leather seems to make sense for the demon hunter, but still. |
| 18:28.29 | Amarande | Marksmanship Hunters will fight at range with no pet. |
| 18:28.39 | Amarande | Welp, I guess it's time to finally say goodbye to marksmanship |
| 18:28.49 | Amarande | which seems to have been unpopular for aeons, but this seems to be the death knell :P |
| 18:28.56 | equiraptor | Oh, I'm pleased by that change. |
| 18:29.12 | Amarande | why? people mostly didn't want to be marks to begin with, now they have even more reason to avoid it |
| 18:29.25 | equiraptor | Like my excitement about the melee hunter, it comes from vanilla. |
| 18:29.33 | Amarande | it's basically the same issue as being a bard in FFXIV or a hunter in LOTRO |
| 18:29.37 | equiraptor | Raiding, it was "no pet. Don't evenbring it out. NO" |
| 18:29.44 | equiraptor | So hunter without a pet is part of my identity for the class. |
| 18:29.44 | Amarande | especially a hunter in LOTRO |
| 18:29.47 | Amarande | where you're expected to fight at range |
| 18:29.59 | Amarande | but without a pet you don't have anything to KEEP mobs at range |
| 18:30.04 | equiraptor | Around AQ40, we started to be able to bring the pet out again, but were still really expected to be MM and get rid of the pet if there was any doubt. |
| 18:30.09 | equiraptor | Yes. MM would be for grouped hunters. |
| 18:30.25 | Amarande | and everyone knows petless ranged in a solo real-time RPG these days is basically hopeless |
| 18:30.41 | equiraptor | Well, here I am, a vanilla hunter, happily kiting things around. |
| 18:30.55 | Amarande | like you look at the likes of elder scrolls |
| 18:31.15 | Amarande | no matter how many games they make archery available to the player in, it's never going to not be shit |
| 18:31.47 | Amarande | mind you, it can be less shit than in oblivion |
| 18:32.01 | Amarande | where practically everyone but a typical conan type melee fighter was more or less SOL to some or other degree :P |
| 18:32.03 | Amarande | but still |
| 18:32.08 | equiraptor | I think kiting is a lost hunter skill. |
| 18:32.12 | equiraptor | I think it can be really powerful. |
| 18:32.27 | equiraptor | Or at least, it was for me back in the day. |
| 18:32.40 | Amarande | I think part of the issue is that kiting isn't very good in WoW |
| 18:33.06 | Amarande | it's hard to kite well when mobs have super steroids speed while aggroed and most of the ways to slow them down have short durations and longish cooldowns :P |
| 18:33.26 | Amarande | it works better in some of the other MMOs like FFXIV or LOTRO or SW:TOR where aggroed mobs move at a reasonable pace |
| 18:34.01 | equiraptor | I dunon. I still find myself kiting things fine, when I bother to. IT's rare, because my pet will take so much of a beating. |
| 18:34.09 | Amarande | plus in WoW you're usually stuck having to kite more slowly than otherwise, because you can't run full tilt as you're forced to keep your face to the mob so you don't get dazed, which ends your kiting aspirations :P |
| 18:34.19 | equiraptor | What bothers me is when I do kite something, and I'm doing fine, people assume I must be in distress. Because apparentyl I'm the only hunter who does that anymore. |
| 18:34.54 | equiraptor | That's where the skill comes in. How do you keep your run speed up and shoot it? |
| 18:35.04 | equiraptor | There are a few techniques, and it's absolutely possible. Once you learn it, it's not hard. |
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| 21:17.08 | Kaden | [Help] Hey when I sell more Fel Iron minerals at the auction house, should I sell them in ores or nuggets> |
| 21:18.11 | kullervo | hahaha selling raw materials |
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| 22:54.29 | d0c5i5 | is there a way to import decks into hearhhead/hearthpwn? i'm using hearthstone deck tracker and it does it automatically for hearthstats, but I don't really do much on that site |
| 22:55.14 | d0c5i5 | like, can i paste the card names in somewhere and have them all added to a deck? |
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