IRC log for #wowhead on 20150804

00:41.35n8oSingle player wow is probably up my alley atm since my whole guild quit a year after I left anyway
00:42.44Amaranden8o: I find MMO mechanics + single player can get boring after a while though
00:43.10n8oThat could be
00:43.14Amarandeit's one of the big reasons I didn't finish Final Fantasy XII, it felt like all the grind of a Korean free-to-play with none of the social contact that an actual MMO would have to break up the monotony
00:43.22n8oI've been playing hearthstone mostly for the last year
00:43.46n8oBest part of wow when I left was my guild mates
00:44.01Amarandeoh yeah, that's another reason I don't play wow much
00:44.14Amarandemy buddies aren't on often enough, I barely ever saw more than one or two of them on my bnet
00:44.34Amarandeplus I mainly play horde (almost always except for a stint as alliance during late cata/early mop, basically)
00:44.41Amarandeand it seems like most of my buds play alliance now :(
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02:27.14kazzza lot of people roll human just because of the racial
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14:35.53n8owhen did warlords come out? they're already revealing another expansion?
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14:40.04JunkHeadyup
14:41.41JunkHeadand wod has been out about 9-10 months i think
14:45.05Amarandeand now a new expansion is forthcoming so that we may forget about this story and never speak of it again (until we level our next alt) :)
14:45.27Amarandehopefully not about frickin Orcs, too
14:45.36AmarandeI think WoW may have more orcs than LOTRO at this point ... LOL
14:46.08Amarandeand in LOTRO you usually didn't go five minutes without slaughtering some more filthy, dirty, dastardly orcs
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17:02.25n8owarlords story is pretty weak?
17:02.44n8ohow is the raiding? is grommash end boss?
17:02.48JunkHeadyup
17:02.51JunkHeadraiding is fine.
17:02.54JunkHeadand no. he isn't.
17:03.50n8oArchimonde? didn't i already defeat him? lol
17:03.58JunkHeadyep you did.
17:05.04n8ono one dies in this freaking game :P
17:06.10JunkHeadI died yesterday when i lagged a bit and mistimed a heroic leap.
17:06.23JunkHeadrip me
17:06.31n8oi quit before I got to kill the lich king. sucks :(
17:06.43JunkHeadi killed him last week.
17:06.49n8oya?
17:06.50JunkHeadi will kill him again this week.
17:06.55JunkHeadhe never stays dead.:(
17:08.16n8oi'd love to do that raid soemtime. is it hard at 100?
17:08.21JunkHeadnope
17:46.22Amarandeyeah,  are we ever going to actually get to defeat Garrosh for good? :P
17:46.55Amaranden8o, at 100 you can solo him
17:47.22n8oAmarande: geez!
17:47.33Amarandeapparently they even nerfed a fair number of old raid mechanics for solo players so that the raids are possible
17:47.54Amarandeotherwise, you probably wouldn't be able to, mainly because eventually a valk would grab you and there'd be no one to help, heh
17:48.02Amarandethat and you'd never have gotten past sindragosa anyway because you'd be doomed to die in an ice block LOL
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18:49.18n8oAmarande: that's actually really cool.
18:49.40n8oi'm leveling my DK in hopes that it's good for soloing
18:54.38Amaranden8o: now it's just a little easier to suffer the real frustration factor
18:54.50n8ofrustration factor?
18:54.54Amarandewhich is running a lockout-based instance for days/weeks on end and not getting the mount you wanted :)
18:55.01n8oOH haha
18:55.18n8ohappened with zul'gurub back in the day
18:55.25n8oraided it SO many times, never got a bear :(
18:56.21n8ooh zul aman?
18:56.49Amarandezul'aman had the bear
18:56.56Amarandeand doesn't have that bear anymore, either
18:57.23n8oi heard that. sucks
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20:15.03JunkHeadwow lost another 1.5 mil players it seems
20:20.16stormscapeded gaem
20:31.58g0urraJunkHead: and that's with people that resubscribed for 6.2
20:35.02stormscapeand just think; it includes wow tokens too
20:35.04stormscapeded gaem
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21:32.57g0urrablizzard doesn't care about subscriber count anyway as long as they get money
21:33.16g0urrawhich they get lots of thanks to schmucks that buy wow tokens
22:02.24Amarandehmm, wonder what the future of MMOs is likely to end up being at this rate then
22:02.43Amarandealthough FFXIV is doing quite well, and SW:TOR seems like it's made a comeback with the Shadow of Revan expansion
22:03.02Amarandewhich was actually pretty good, unlike Rise of the Hutt Cartel that was mind-numbingly dull
22:03.25AmarandeRishi and Yavin 4 felt like they were too short actually ... whereas Makeb (Hutt Cartel's addon planet) was like "effing gods when will I be done with this planet"
22:10.12Mr_Rabiesif wow dies before something can truly outdo it, the genre risks falling apart entirely
22:27.49stormscapeEQ1 and Ultima Online are still releasing content. Consider that.
22:27.58stormscapeThere's MMOs from pre-Ultima that are still online
22:28.02stormscapethe genre isn't at risk
22:28.41stormscapeIt's like the Great Atari Crash. WoW is just going to fucking collapse because it was bloated and full of shit content
22:28.49stormscapeand then the actually good stuff will remain
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