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| 04:49.31 | SammyConnor | Howdy. I don't suppose anyone could help a hunter in need? |
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| 05:28.54 | Stormkitty | Tectus is literally Bad Camera Angles: The Boss. |
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| 06:14.21 | Cerine | The camera can screw you on Tectus but just pretend that properly positioning your camera is a boss mechanic. ;P |
| 06:14.32 | Cerine | Since you know where the camera fuckery will spawn |
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| 06:43.14 | Cerine | I asked last night but anyone raid tonight using Personal Loot? If so, how many items did you get per boss and how many were in your raid? |
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| 09:15.25 | Mr_Rabies | we did, cerine |
| 09:15.46 | Mr_Rabies | in a 23 man we got maybe 6-7 items per boss? lemme see if i can verify |
| 09:16.40 | Cerine | Thanks, more data on this topic is much appreciated |
| 09:19.07 | Mr_Rabies | looks like maybe 8 per boss including bonus rolls so not the most scientific |
| 09:27.02 | tenterflex | Cerine it's a known fact that personal loot drops less items than group loot |
| 09:27.09 | tenterflex | at least, that's how it was in SoO |
| 09:27.55 | Cerine | Mr_Rabies: And that was with personal loot? |
| 09:28.57 | Cerine | tenterflex: I'd rather not make assumptions. |
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| 09:50.06 | Mr_Rabies | yup, cerine |
| 09:50.27 | Mr_Rabies | on normal, not heroic, but still |
| 09:50.31 | Cerine | Interesting. That's a pretty huge variation between our experiences. |
| 09:50.54 | Mr_Rabies | that's including bonus rolls so it may be only 5 or so per boss |
| 09:51.28 | Mr_Rabies | my guess is starting out personal loot is better but when any funneling whatsoever happens NBG/ML whatever is better |
| 09:51.32 | Cerine | We did 30 man normal on Tuesday with Bladefist as personal loot and only got 2 so the raid kinda unwilling to experiment more for obvious reasons. =P |
| 09:51.37 | Cerine | Yeah |
| 09:51.50 | Mr_Rabies | was that normal or heroic? |
| 09:51.55 | Cerine | Normal. |
| 09:52.14 | Mr_Rabies | well, you could try to continue in a pug after your normal raid concludes |
| 09:52.54 | Mr_Rabies | see how that looks in comparison |
| 09:55.36 | Cerine | Yeah. I am interested experimenting further. I like personal loot as an option because more options is usually a good thing so I very much hope that Blizzard makes it similar in yield to traditional loot. For the reasons you pointed out earlier I doubt my guild will be using personal loot much but I'm sure there are plenty of guilds out there that it would be great for. |
| 09:56.00 | Cerine | and pugs and so on |
| 09:59.39 | tenterflex | Cerine it's not an assumption, moron |
| 10:00.08 | Mr_Rabies | tenterflex you're really the worst ever |
| 10:00.11 | Mr_Rabies | you just |
| 10:00.13 | tenterflex | because I'm right? |
| 10:00.19 | tenterflex | and people are too fucking thick to accept the truth? |
| 10:00.19 | Mr_Rabies | immediately burn any bridges when anyone questions anything you say |
| 10:00.25 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 10:00.27 | tenterflex | not my fault that people are too thick to accept the facts |
| 10:00.28 | Mr_Rabies | immediately |
| 10:00.41 | tenterflex | > implying I give a shit about "bridges" in an internet chat room |
| 10:00.43 | Cerine | You haven't presented any facts to me. |
| 10:00.52 | tenterflex | [20:27] <tenterflex> Cerine it's a known fact that personal loot drops less items than group loot |
| 10:00.52 | tenterflex | [20:27] <tenterflex> at least, that's how it was in SoO |
| 10:00.56 | tenterflex | DINGDINGDING WE HAVE A WINNER |
| 10:01.25 | Mr_Rabies | like you nerdraged out and showed your ass to #wowuidev over the smallest thing |
| 10:01.28 | Cerine | You see, the way that adults work is that we back up our words with evidence. |
| 10:01.34 | tenterflex | ... |
| 10:01.36 | Mr_Rabies | get that rage checked out, it's not really healthy |
| 10:01.37 | tenterflex | I just said it's a known fact |
| 10:01.40 | tenterflex | there is evidence out there |
| 10:01.41 | Cerine | Otherwise you're just some kid raging at a chat room. |
| 10:01.47 | tenterflex | if you're too fucking mentally handicapped to go find the evidence yourself |
| 10:01.50 | tenterflex | I'm not going to do it for you |
| 10:01.59 | tenterflex | you just keep whining in a chat room about how personal loot doesn't give you your gear |
| 10:02.02 | tenterflex | see where it gets you |
| 10:02.24 | Cerine | Okay. You do that then. |
| 10:02.33 | tenterflex | facepalm |
| 10:02.41 | Mr_Rabies | probably further than going into a frothing rage anytime anyone dare question the knowledge of king tenterflex |
| 10:02.44 | tenterflex | some people are beyond help |
| 10:03.06 | tenterflex | it's just simple |
| 10:03.09 | tenterflex | I am giving people information |
| 10:03.15 | Mr_Rabies | you're really not |
| 10:03.17 | tenterflex | and they are like BUT WHY? WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE? HUE HUE |
| 10:03.34 | tenterflex | if you can't accept the truth when somebody gives it to you, fuck off. nobody wants to help you. |
| 10:04.17 | Cerine | Hey man, Jesus is the Lord. Someone told me so. Why bother to question them? :) |
| 10:04.27 | Mr_Rabies | there's not a lot of solid numbers involving personal loot since it's all server-side and blizzard isn't sharing much about it, also kind of a small sample size in general |
| 10:04.28 | tenterflex | that's not the truth though |
| 10:04.38 | tenterflex | like are you actually so dumb you can't understand the difference between fact and fiction |
| 10:05.13 | Mr_Rabies | the scientific approach you're taking makes a lot more sense than blindly accepting what some people declared as truths |
| 10:05.53 | tenterflex | I can't help it if I get extreeemely frustrated at how fucking thick and ignorant people are. Excuse me if I'm vocal about it. |
| 10:05.57 | Cerine | Sorry, I ran out of internet rage a while ago so now I mostly just lead people on to watch them nearly have an aneurysm for my amusement. |
| 10:06.08 | tenterflex | [21:05] <tenterflex> I can't help it if I get extreeemely frustrated at how fucking thick and ignorant people are. Excuse me if I'm vocal about it. |
| 10:07.00 | Mr_Rabies | i feel like i just watched one of those recap episodes that happens like, three episodes into a show |
| 10:07.17 | Mr_Rabies | like yeah, i just saw that happen, why recap it so fast, guys, what the hell |
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| 10:48.05 | Stormkitty | I wonder how mad the LFR crowd is going to be when they find out they need to do real raids to get more than the 680 epic from Khadgar |
| 10:52.14 | tenterflex | most probably fine |
| 10:52.38 | tenterflex | a guy on my friends list had full SoO tier gear in LFR, gemmed/chanted/reforged etc, never bothered to do flex, normal or heroic |
| 10:52.40 | tenterflex | and he was 100% happy |
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| 11:21.25 | equiraptor | Well, managed to get it to download the patch. I don't know why the game couldn't have downloaded it 14 hours ago, when it first gave me that error, though. |
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| 19:32.26 | Neritan | is Champion a new default guild rank for officers? almost all guild has it now |
| 19:35.06 | Amarande | good question, and how would you know, anyway? |
| 19:35.19 | Amarande | armory doesn't display guild ranks by name, it just displays "leader" "rank 1" "rank 2" etc. |
| 19:35.26 | Amarande | you have to actually be in the guild to see the rank |
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| 19:45.09 | Neritan | oh, i thought it was the title below the name |
| 19:45.21 | Neritan | havent played in a while |
| 19:45.58 | Neritan | Champion of <guildname> |
| 19:50.25 | kullervo | yeah it's just the guild rep |
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| 20:27.44 | Amarande | some MMOs actually do grant an Officer title to characters who are guild officers to be able to display as a formal character title |
| 20:27.58 | Amarande | but not WoW AFAIK, pretty much only in games like LOTRO where the guild rank system is fixed |
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