IRC log for #wowhead on 20140823

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20:26.50Aik_Hello?
20:27.27Aik_is anyone here?
20:27.40equiraptor:eek:
20:29.59Aik_I had some wow questions to ask?
20:30.28equiraptorWell, you can ask. I dunno how effective I'll be at answering them, but others might be around who could and just not saying anything yet.
20:30.32Mr_Rabieschannel's pretty quiet right now but it never hurts to ask
20:30.37Mr_Rabies~asktoask
20:30.37infobotJust ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help, if they can.
20:33.27equiraptorcoughs
20:33.32equiraptorThat was only a little bit overwhelming!
20:39.21Aik_I been out of wow for awhile i've been curious what faction do i pick and if it possible to class change?
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20:43.41Zarthus"right now"
20:43.52Zarthusit's quiet all day except from that idiotic scammer.
20:44.04Aik_Scammer?
20:44.06ZarthusAik_: It's possible, but it's going to cost you.
20:44.17ZarthusAik_: Some guy wanting us to click his link so he can get our passwords.
20:44.19Aik_Ok so i can turn my hunter to a priest?
20:44.25ZarthusI don't think that's possible
20:44.34Zarthusyou can boost a priest to level 90 using 60 dollar though.
20:45.03Aik_No no no
20:45.12Aik_I'm not starting at 0 achievements again
20:45.17ZarthusAchievements are shared
20:47.21Aik_So my Priest will have the High warlord title?
20:47.42fewyni don't think so
20:47.46Aik_and exhalted with Zanaltari and Argent Dawn?
20:47.48ZarthusI don't really know what that title is.
20:47.50fewynno
20:47.54Zarthusit won't have your reps
20:48.19Aik_It's a vanilla title
20:49.03fewynits a personal achieve title
20:49.09fewynso i don't think so
20:49.28fewynlike my priest has master sarg and i don't get it on other chars
20:49.41Eraclitoaren't "vanilla pvp" titles available via rated battlegrounds, nowadays?
20:49.50fewyni don't think they are
20:50.27equiraptorThe services available are at: https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/game/wow?categories=game-services I believe that requires a login, but not an active WoW subscription.
20:50.28fewynhttp://www.wowhead.com/title=222
20:50.31fewynseems i'm wrong!
20:50.33fewynthey did
20:50.37fewyni don't pvp
20:50.39equiraptorSo if you have a  battle.net account, you can see 'em.
20:50.42fewynso i had no idea
20:51.33Eraclitoi don't pvp too, sadly
20:51.55Eraclitoi did until wotlk's end, then some friends stopped playing
20:51.58fewyni swear it never snows in storm peaks
20:57.11Eraclitoi had troubles getting the tanaris sandstorm pet
20:57.18Eraclitobut i got kinda lucky with storm peaks
20:58.52Eraclitooh, about wod beta— i don't understand if i'm the only one having issues with male forsaken models
20:58.53JunkHeadhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152562128642418
20:58.57Eraclitoi see them badly textured
21:39.54Ward<@fewyn> i swear it never snows in storm peaks
21:40.00Wardit never snows in many zones with snow
21:40.10fewyni need it for my las tpet :/
21:40.20fewynneed an arctic fox kit
21:40.27fewynonly spawns when it snows in storm peaks
21:40.27Wardah
21:40.38WardI think I got one elsewhere
21:41.00Wardah no, I got mine in storm peaks indeed
21:41.09fewynonly place it spawns =p
21:41.46WardI didn't know I had collected in northrend yet, must have been a fluke
21:42.04WardI've been working my way down, I finished my pandaria and cata zones collecting
21:42.34fewynonly pet i'm missing from zookeeper
21:42.56fewyneven the minfernal and baby ape seem to have been easier
21:43.12fewynOMG
21:43.14fewynIT'S SNOOOOWING
21:43.23WardGOOOOOOO
21:43.27fewynyessssssss
21:43.32fewynit's grey
21:43.35fewynBUT WHO GIVES A DUCK
21:43.49fewynGO GO TERRIBLE TURNIP
21:44.35Wardlol
21:44.45Wardyou take the grey, then you keep looking for a rare
21:47.06fewyn[16:45:29] [Fewyn] has earned the achievement [Northrend Safari]!
21:47.06fewyn[16:45:29] [90:Fewyn] has earned the achievement [Northrend Safari]!
21:47.07fewyn[16:45:29] [Fewyn] has earned the achievement [World Safari]!
21:47.07fewyn[16:45:29] [90:Fewyn] has earned the achievement [World Safari]!
21:47.17fewynno Ward i just wait until i get a battle stone =p
21:47.23fewyni could care less atm about rarity
21:48.29fewynhttp://www.wowhead.com/list=1350511/us-velen-fewyn#2-battle-pets
21:50.14equiraptor*cough* http://youtu.be/8Gv0H-vPoDc?t=1m7s
21:56.09Wardimpressive
21:58.15Wardhow does the profiler know what pets I have?
21:58.34Wardcollections are retrievable through armory?
22:00.02Wardit seems they are
22:01.00Eraclitofewyn, http://www.wowhead.com/list=127661/eu-pozzo-delleternit%C3%A0-eraclito#2-battle-pets
22:06.40Aik_Should i just focus on my hunter or make a new character for Warlords?
22:06.55Eraclitowell, you should do what is more fun for you
22:07.10Eraclitothere's not such thing as "better class" or "funnier class" to play
22:07.17Eraclitois all up to you
22:07.21Aik_i dunno what fun for me
22:07.37Eraclitoyou could try to level some alts and then decide
22:08.01Eraclitoi leveled 11 classes to 90, but i always go back to my main
22:08.18Aik_i level 11 alts to 90 then deleted them.
22:08.18Eraclitoeven if i play a lot my paladin, rogue and warlock— my main is a mage
22:08.26Eraclitowhy deleted?
22:08.39Eraclitoanyway you could get all of them restored by calling blizzard
22:08.44Aik_bescause i hated the random server i was on
22:10.08Aik_so deleted it
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23:04.57Kane_HartJunkHead so what I was saying the other day x2
23:04.58Kane_Hart:P
23:10.51JunkHeadwhatcha mean?
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23:29.10kurtramoneIt's just me with connection problem in Wow client/Battle.net website?
23:30.05equiraptorYou could try poking at this: http://us-looking-glass.battle.net/
23:30.19equiraptorIf latency comes late in the MTR, probably them. Early, probably you.
23:30.40equiraptorIn the middle, probably those annoying intermediary links.
23:31.12equiraptorOh, sorry, it's the reverse of what I expected. So early is likely to be them, and late you.
23:32.13kurtramone4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5002ms
23:32.21kurtramonethats then i guess?
23:33.13equiraptorNot necessarily. Some things just don't respond to ICMP.
23:33.22equiraptorWhat's the latency on the way look like?
23:35.21kurtramoneNo idea
23:35.31kurtramonethere's like 15 of then
23:35.34kurtramoneis it?
23:37.10equiraptorI don't know what you're asking.
23:37.47kurtramoneI think this tool is too advanced for me
23:37.48equiraptorCopy the results to clipboard and past into a wide text window, if the lines are wrapping.
23:37.54equiraptorThen look at the avg (average) times.
23:38.09equiraptorAre they in the 10s / sub 100? Or are they 250+ ?
23:38.36equiraptorIs there loss % that's not 100%, but more than, say 5% that goes all the way to the end?
23:38.47kurtramone187
23:39.15equiraptorThat's a bit high. What's the best, worst, nad standard deviation (stdv) at the final hop?
23:39.21equiraptorOr the final hop that reports.
23:39.52kurtramonethe last one don't say much
23:39.53kurtramone<PROTECTED>
23:40.13equiraptorWell, 15 if it reports. That's not really reporting. :)
23:40.31kurtramonethe second last is this  15. 179.184.121.197.static.adsl.gvt.net.br                 20.0%    10  187.7 187.8 187.5 188.4   0.3
23:42.16equiraptorThat's a bit long, but consistent. The woW client seems to adjust for that type of latency fairly well.
23:42.25equiraptorDeos that 20% run through a lot of hops, or does it vary?
23:44.06kurtramoneDo you know that most of that thing I have no clue on what they do/what is good or bad?
23:44.27equiraptorIt's a bit... in depth and weird.
23:44.40equiraptorI work in server support, and this is one of the tools we use when a customer complains that a server is laggy.
23:44.40Zarthusif it says 100% packet loss something is probably wrong (running pings)
23:45.02equiraptorNot necessarily, Zarthus. Many systems turn off ping response.
23:45.13Zarthusisn't this battle.net pinging you?
23:45.14equiraptorIF that's from the WoW looking glass, it's likely his home router/machine just doesn't respond to ping.
23:45.30equiraptorIf his home connection had 100% loss, he couldn't get to the looking glass.
23:46.07Zarthushmm. I'm actually getting 100% loss as well
23:46.19equiraptorHowever, with 20% loss, simple things can kinda work, but not completely. Complex things will flail.
23:46.33equiraptorI have 0% loss at the last hop, but we've intentionally enabled things that are normally disabled.
23:46.39kurtramone100% loss is like "not internnet at all"
23:46.56equiraptorRight. If it's actually 100% loss and not "Someone turned that off on your connection".
23:47.26kurtramoneOk 100% is very bad then
23:47.47equiraptorTrue 100% is. False 100% isn't.
23:47.57equiraptorI've got 100% loss on hops 9 and 10. 0% loss on hop 11.
23:48.07equiraptorThat is not a sign of any problems.
23:48.31kurtramone3, 4, 5 is 0%
23:50.55equiraptorOk, yokohama commercial. You weer bad enough to make me find the remote.

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