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| 16:13.01 | Amarande | hrm, things I've learned from SW:TOR |
| 16:13.05 | Amarande | there is a fine set of Michael Jackson lyrics that apply to me and PvP |
| 16:13.23 | g0urra | let me guess, is it from the song "I'm Bad"? |
| 16:15.24 | Amarande | g0urra: heh, you got it |
| 16:15.39 | b4k4^^ | :3 |
| 16:16.10 | Amarande | probably why I tend to get pissed off when mmo companies make pvp fixes/balances that negatively impact pve :P |
| 16:16.29 | g0urra | a friend at work says he loves SW:TOR.. probably because he uses the cartel market for pay2win |
| 16:16.44 | Amarande | g0urra: actually, you really can't use the cartel market for pay to win |
| 16:16.59 | Amarande | except maybe in classic space battles, and those are solo matters anyway :P |
| 16:17.14 | b4k4^^ | han solo |
| 16:17.22 | JunkHead | hand solo |
| 16:17.30 | b4k4^^ | *fap* |
| 16:17.32 | Amarande | you can pay for a leg up when leveling, basically, you can pay to get some subscriber benefits as a non-sub, but you can't really "pay to win" |
| 16:17.57 | JunkHead | I'm enjoying wow again for right now. |
| 16:18.05 | Amarande | probably the most powerful items you can get from the CM are lightsaber crystals, and even those are just the same as the top lightsaber crystals you can get normally |
| 16:18.06 | JunkHead | having fun leveling a new character by myself. |
| 16:18.36 | Amarande | (and standard non-cartel +41 stat crystals usually go as low as 50k, so it's not like it's hard to get the stat benefit) |
| 16:19.11 | Amarande | the only real advantages to cartel crystals are you can get infinite copies via the collections and you can start using a +41 crystal at 10, but that benefit levels out at 50 |
| 16:19.28 | b4k4^^ | can you piss people off by calling them gems? :3 |
| 16:19.42 | Amarande | b4k4^^: you might, given that Gemstones are a different item type :P |
| 16:19.49 | Amarande | (gemstones are a type of mats for artificers, specifically) |
| 16:19.51 | b4k4^^ | oh, damn |
| 16:24.17 | Amarande | Gemstones are blue-tier mats used to make blue-tier lightsaber hilts and Enhancements |
| 16:25.48 | Amarande | or rather, they're *called* "lightsaber hilts" but they're really used in all the force-user melee weapons, including vibroswords and electrostaves |
| 16:26.58 | Amarande | Enhancements are a specific sort of item mod (you've got five types of item mods in SW:TOR: the Colour Crystal, the slot-specific kind ("Armoring" "Hilt" or "Barrel"), the "Mod", the "Enhancement", and the "Augment") |
| 16:29.11 | b4k4^^ | I guess it makes sense once you play it |
| 16:29.43 | Amarande | Yeah. I still remember when I first played I thought "Mods" were universal mods for items (they're not quite, they go in basically anything moddable, but only in a "mod" slot) |
| 16:29.44 | b4k4^^ | (yeah, like I knew anything about WoW either 4 years ago) |
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| 16:55.53 | Amarande | dammit, Qyzen ... I need Eralam crystals, not Nextor |
| 16:56.01 | Amarande | the one problem with gathering missions in SW:TOR, heh |
| 16:58.08 | g0urra | one of the reasons I don't like SWTOR gathering missions |
| 16:58.13 | g0urra | too random |
| 16:58.58 | Amarande | and how the leveling epics are usually mostly inaccessible because it takes far too long to luck into epic mats |
| 16:59.30 | Amarande | blues, yeah. in fact, it's almost standard to level via blues in SW:TOR these days, unlike WoW where green is more of a norm (except for heirloom users) |
| 16:59.51 | Amarande | but epics, it's easy to learn to craft them, a pain in the ass to get the mats you actually need to craft them while they're still useful (unless you're making stuff to twink an alt with) |
| 17:01.12 | Amarande | except of course top end epics, which it's fairly easy to get mats for but a pain in the ass to learn to craft them |
| 17:06.13 | Amarande | I'm starting to run out of stuff to do in SW:TOR though. :S |
| 17:06.36 | Amarande | unless I want to be a dedicated raider, anyway, and as usual ... dammit, why is it that no matter what MMO I play, I tend to end up in guilds with, usually, three attributes |
| 17:07.00 | Amarande | a) are wonderfully friendly, b) (usually) have loads and loads of members, but c) can basically never get a raid group together to save their lives :| |
| 17:08.47 | Amarande | and on top of that, my SW:TOR guild is actually an arm of one of the larger SW fan clubs in general, and yet we STILL don't normally have enough people on at the same time to do ops :S |
| 17:13.28 | b4k4^^ | :P |
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| 20:24.14 | Henkzor | hi |
| 20:27.49 | g0urra | hey |
| 21:36.26 | Eraclito | https://twitter.com/Rygarius/status/459806573549060096 Rygarius should start editing stuff on some kind of notepad |
| 22:10.03 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/459815542816522240 |
| 22:10.05 | fewyn | new RAF mount |
| 22:14.21 | Eraclito | that's pretty cool |
| 22:14.47 | Eraclito | i recruited four friends |
| 22:14.55 | Eraclito | first was before mount rewards |
| 22:15.16 | Eraclito | second was a noob and didn't clic on the right link and wasn't linked to me, customer service didn't help |
| 22:15.44 | Eraclito | third was the rocket and fourth the flying panther... i'd prefer the new pets |
| 22:18.45 | Amarande | They should just put the raf mounts up on the store :P |
| 22:19.04 | Amarande | maybe at ... hmm ... 50, 60 bucks a pop as "supa premium spesha mountz" |
| 22:19.26 | Amarande | let's face it, these days, how many RAF mounts actually come from recruiting an actual other person :S |
| 22:19.33 | Amarande | especially since it has to be a NEW WoW player AFAIK, right? |
| 22:19.41 | Amarande | and not just getting someone to come back and reactivate? |
| 22:20.57 | Eraclito | it's painful to get new people to start |
| 22:21.06 | Eraclito | most people curious about wow already tried it, i think |
| 22:21.34 | Amarande | yeah, about the only real way to recruit a truly new member is probably if you're recruiting someone from another region |
| 22:21.50 | Amarande | since you have to buy WoW again to switch regions, that *probably* counts |
| 22:22.37 | Amarande | but yeah, for the most part it seems to amount to people just purchasing another copy of WoW to get the shiny mount |
| 22:23.11 | Amarande | so they might as well just consider the cost of WoW (probably on sale) plus the cost of a month's sub plus the $25 mounts normally sell for on the store and charge that |
| 22:23.50 | Amarande | especially now that the RAF mounts are about to become all but inaccessible the solo way :| |
| 22:23.58 | Amarande | at least if I understand the TOU changes right |
| 22:26.22 | Amarande | there was something about a maximum number of allowed accounts per person, so it'd seem that eventually you'd no longer be able to self-do RAF |
| 22:49.25 | JunkHead | man. finally hit 7k gold. |
| 22:49.38 | JunkHead | but then had to train herbalism and buy cold weather flying.:( |
| 22:50.00 | Amarande | JunkHead: and meanwhile people look at 7k gold as "po'" these days :( |
| 22:50.13 | Amarande | and expect us to fork over 10k+ for a single crafted item sometimes |
| 22:50.15 | JunkHead | I'm lvl 68 |
| 22:50.25 | Amarande | but what's his name insists there's no inflation in WoW soo ... heh |
| 22:50.47 | Amarande | there *is* inflation though. it's just not continuous, it's more like a ziggurat |
| 22:51.09 | Amarande | each new expansion you get a spurt of increase in AH prices, then it plateaus off till the next xpack when it spikes again |
| 22:51.29 | Amarande | still comes to the same, lower level stuff gets outsized prices in the end |
| 22:51.51 | JunkHead | I hate that in 2 levels I gotta spend 5k on 280 flying.:( |
| 22:52.13 | Eraclito | get stormwind/orgrimmar rep |
| 22:52.18 | Eraclito | you get discount |
| 22:52.19 | Amarande | let's put it this way ... if there wasn't inflation, then how is a few hundred gold now a matter of course, while back in vanilla the price of an epic mount was considered painful? :) |
| 22:52.32 | JunkHead | ooooh good idea. i think im exalted with sw |
| 22:52.41 | Eraclito | train it in stormwind |
| 22:52.47 | Eraclito | if you train it in dalaran, no discount |
| 22:52.51 | JunkHead | yeah good call |
| 22:52.52 | Amarande | yeah, that's one thing I really wish they'd do with the training |
| 22:53.06 | Amarande | make the riding trainers in the other capitals full-spectrum |
| 22:53.20 | Amarande | as it is, it rewards people for focusing specifically on Human or Orc missions and ignoring the other races |
| 22:53.22 | Eraclito | i have... 11 280 on alliance, 3 on horde, paid for 2 more alliance (both my ex girlfriend character and a friend's one) |
| 22:53.43 | Eraclito | also have four 310, but didn't pay them, i got four violet proto-drakes |
| 22:53.50 | Amarande | (and why is the dalaran riding trainer NOT kirin tor aligned :p) |
| 22:53.53 | Eraclito | i always try to pay less |
| 22:54.15 | Eraclito | well, more than human quests, i use stormwind tabard |
| 22:54.19 | Amarande | btw. if you register multiple wow accounts |
| 22:54.33 | Amarande | do achives/mounts/minipets attach to your whole bnet account or to one account only? |
| 22:54.44 | JunkHead | whole bnet account |
| 22:54.57 | Amarande | ah, so if I bought euro WoW I'd still have my US mounts and minipets, then? |
| 22:55.05 | JunkHead | no. |
| 22:55.10 | JunkHead | i dont think so |
| 22:55.16 | JunkHead | i think its region locked? |
| 22:55.20 | JunkHead | but i might be wrong |
| 22:55.25 | Eraclito | i don't really know |
| 22:55.35 | Eraclito | battle.net account is still the same |
| 22:55.37 | Amarande | yeah, it's hard to tell, especially since there are minipets that are only obtainable in one or another region |
| 22:55.52 | Amarande | you pretty much would *have to* have more than one region WoW account in order to complete your pokedex |
| 22:56.07 | Amarande | of course, you still cannot complete your pokedex, because there's all those old con and invitational pets :P |
| 22:56.25 | Amarande | heh I wonder how many people play both WoW and Pokemon and get really galled by that one |
| 22:56.30 | Amarande | HAHA YOU CANNOT COMPLETE YOUR POKEDEX |
| 22:56.30 | Eraclito | i found a cataclysm collector for less than 30 euro including shipping |
| 22:56.40 | Eraclito | i got it, for both the pet and the mouse pad |
| 22:56.47 | Amarande | mind you, I think I know only one person who's got a complete pokedex even *IN* pokemon heh |
| 22:57.01 | Eraclito | i got a complete pokedex in pokemon blue |
| 22:57.04 | Eraclito | and silver |
| 22:57.08 | Eraclito | without cheats |
| 22:57.16 | Eraclito | (then cheats came) |
| 22:57.24 | Amarande | Eraclito: well by 'complete' we're generally talking including the exclusive ones from various events and whatnot |
| 22:57.45 | Eraclito | well lately you have tons of events-only pokemon |
| 22:57.56 | Eraclito | back in time, having a tauros was prestige |
| 22:57.56 | Amarande | yeah, it's getting kind of ridiculous |
| 22:58.13 | Amarande | at least the latest pokemon games are for 3DS now so people can actually get them without letting people steal their internet |
| 22:58.13 | Eraclito | i remember in middle school, fourteen years ago, people always asked for my tauros |
| 22:58.27 | Amarande | the Black/White era was probably the worst one |
| 22:58.42 | Amarande | "oh, hey, guess what these pokemon go out over Nintendo WFC!" |
| 22:58.48 | Eraclito | why the worst one? mind, i "stopped" in gen4 with soulsilver, so i don't know |
| 22:58.55 | Amarande | Eraclito: because Nintendo WFC was a crock |
| 22:59.12 | Amarande | it's gonna suck having so much content in DQ9 be inaccessible |
| 22:59.32 | Amarande | or a lot of cards in Yugioh 2010 |
| 22:59.33 | Amarande | but yeah, I'm starting to see the idea of Nintendo WFC going out the door next month being a "good riddance, crappy system" thing |
| 23:00.02 | Amarande | the basic problem was that all the DS units before the DSi only supported WEP wifi security, which is basically no security at all |
| 23:00.13 | Eraclito | i faced this issue the last week |
| 23:00.22 | Amarande | so you couldn't use it on your nice home wifi with WPA2 and all unless you kept mucking with security whenever you wanted to use the DS on it |
| 23:00.30 | Eraclito | set the new router wpa... oh wait, the ds |
| 23:00.30 | Amarande | and, to make it a double whammy? |
| 23:00.47 | Amarande | you know all those public wifi and all that? you can't even use half of THOSE to get around having to lower security at home |
| 23:00.57 | Eraclito | but aren't they, like, shutting down ds services? |
| 23:01.10 | Amarande | because most of those require you go on a web browser to accept terms ... oh right, there's no browser on the DS to accept terms with! so sad :( |
| 23:01.27 | Amarande | and the triple whammy? they made the wifi security support be done at the game level |
| 23:01.41 | Amarande | unlike say the Sony handhelds where the wifi security is done in the console firmware |
| 23:02.03 | Amarande | so even if you *DID* have a DSi or a 3DS? Oh, sorry, still gotta use WEP for them old games! |
| 23:02.24 | Amarande | yeah, they're shutting down the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection next month |
| 23:02.56 | Amarande | so no more online DS stuff unless it supports direct DS to DS and you're in the same room with your buddy, and no more online Wii stuff that goes through it (so things like Netflix etc. are still OK) |
| 23:03.09 | Eraclito | i liked online on wii |
| 23:03.18 | Eraclito | also, last pokemon game on non-mobile console is for wii |
| 23:03.37 | Eraclito | i don't really like where nintendo is going |
| 23:03.50 | Eraclito | and i'm not even sure i like pokemon x/y |
| 23:04.00 | Eraclito | i mean, i don't have them or a 3ds, but i've seen the games |
| 23:04.04 | Amarande | I don't really have all that many DS games so it's not going to affect me much, some stuff in DQ9 but meh (not to mention the brady guide for DQ9 I got used for 5 bucks doesn't really go into detail on the DLC quests anyway, so it basically assumes you don't have the DLC) |
| 23:04.23 | Amarande | some cards in Yugioh 2010 but I've barely even played that, apparently I suck at Yugioh, the computer is super cheap or both LOL |
| 23:04.45 | Eraclito | yugioh games are always crappy |
| 23:04.49 | Amarande | and FF3 apparently you lose a lot less than I thought you did |
| 23:05.34 | Amarande | there's only one monster you can't fight without wifi/mognet, one dungeon (which exists for that monster) you can't visit, and the high end gear is really only important if you plan to fight Iron Giant (said monster) |
| 23:05.45 | Amarande | main story is supposed to be quite easy even if you level only as far as 60 |
| 23:06.12 | Amarande | (and if you want to fight iron giant, on top of that you have to level in an obtuse manner in order to keep having them black belt jobs on every time you level at the high end so you can get that max HP ... ick) |
| 23:07.15 | Amarande | not sure about TWEWY, I'm not so sure how much I really even want to play that even though I've got it ... it looks like a good way to murder your touch screen |
| 23:07.40 | Amarande | don't know if SMT Devil Survivor even *has* any online based content |
| 23:07.48 | Amarande | and SMT Strange Journey actually was designed to be future-proof :) |
| 23:09.35 | Amarande | there's a way to trade demon data with people online, but it doesn't actually use wifi, or any direct DS connection at that heh |
| 23:09.57 | Eraclito | how does it work? |
| 23:11.54 | Amarande | password system |
| 23:12.08 | Amarande | for any demon you have in the compendium you can show a password you can tell others |
| 23:12.47 | Amarande | and the passwords can be entered to add the demon to one of three temporary slots in your compendium (you then have to be the right level and pay sufficient cash to actually get it into your party) |
| 23:13.06 | Amarande | (and, of course, there are also a few special passwords) |
| 23:13.55 | Amarande | a few demons actually can *only* be got from the passwords (and, AFAIK, don't count for 100% completion) |
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