IRC log for #wowhead on 20131207

00:17.25Eraclitokullervo, maybe you can help me
00:17.41Eraclitohere http://www.noxxic.com/wow/pve/paladin/protection/gems-enchants-professions i was looking for gems info
00:18.04Eraclitothey first suggest "quick" as a yellow gem
00:18.21Eraclitothen, as a jewelcrafting perk, they suggest "fractured" or "solid"
00:18.35Eraclitoshouldn't it be "quick" the jc-only gem too?
00:27.04kullervoEraclito: noxxic sucks don't use it
00:27.10kullervoever
00:27.31kullervoinsert custom stat values to mrrobot and go with that
00:28.03kullervohttp://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2013-12-07_02-27-48.png
00:28.07kullervoI go with those
00:31.36Eraclitothanks a lot
00:31.49AmarandeI wish Noxxic would add LOTRO to its games
00:32.06AmarandeI used to rely on it for WoW, it's still a good reference for speccing for SW:TOR
00:34.46Eraclitoi mostly run lfr to get raid pets
00:35.06Amarandespeaking of that
00:35.07Eraclitoand by "mostly" i don't mean "i also raid something else" but "i also don't raid" :P
00:35.21Amarandewhy are minipets typically available in LFR, but, AFAIK, mounts normally require you do at least Normal, if not Heroic?
00:35.29Amarandeyou'd think the reverse ought to be the case now
00:35.53Eraclitoseems mounts are still the prestige stuff to blizz
00:35.58Amarandegiven that, well
00:36.07Amarandemounts have no practical use, they're purely cosmetic
00:36.08Eraclitooh and usually at least one pet is non-lfr
00:36.24Amarandeotoh, minipets represent an actual improvement, if a small one, due to wowkemon
00:36.25Eraclitoin ToT primordius had two pets, one for lfr and normal and one for heroic
00:36.39Eraclitoin SoO the sha has one for lfr and flex and the other one for flex/norm/hero
00:39.04AmarandeYeah, I guess at this point they probably have to make mounts higher end than minipets, especially when you consider the Store :|
00:39.44AmarandeAfter all, each nice looking mount they offer in game is another smidge less incentive to the player to consider buying My Little Sparkle Pony and Friends
00:40.06Amarande... especially since the ones that are in game tend to look better, to boot
00:40.13Amarandeespecially when you compare to the damned sparkle pony ROFL
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00:40.39Duffshi
00:40.53DuffsIm looking to volunteer
00:41.15AmarandeI'm still not sure how they thought people would pay 25 bucks for that thing :P
00:41.25Amarandeand yet, mind bogglingly, it was POPULAR
00:41.42AmarandeI pondered it for a short while, until I realised it would have no uniqueness value whatever because half of Orgrimmar seemed to be on one :S
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00:43.40Dufferinis anyone here?
00:45.09Dufferin?
00:46.48kullervono one is
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00:51.26Eraclitoi love the smell of bsod in the morning
00:53.01AmarandeEraclito: overclocking? :)
00:53.09Eraclitoi wish :P
00:53.17Eraclito4 years old cpu
00:53.34Eraclitoif it was a baby, it would soon go to school
00:54.30AmarandeRAM dying?
00:54.51Amarandeand ouch four years old, that probably means you need DDR2, if not DDR :)
00:55.05b4k4^^DDR2 is more likely
00:55.09Amarandeand even DDR3 is effing expensive atm as it is :P
00:55.10Eraclitoyeah, DDR2
00:55.13b4k4^^also, nVidia gfx board?
00:55.32Eraclitogtx 560 ti
00:55.49b4k4^^my PC is now more stable when I turned off hardware acceleration for Firefox
00:55.50AmarandeCPUs barely ever go bad unless you abuse them, it's most likely either your RAM going bad or your hard drive developing bad sectors under system files
00:55.55Eraclitobut mboard is old as cpu
00:56.07b4k4^^but current nVidia drivers are buggy at least for 700-series
00:56.27AmarandeI'm still not sure why Firefox has issues with hardware acceleration
00:56.30b4k4^^also my system drive is failing, which doesn't help things
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00:56.39Eraclitocurrent... like from a month or two? because lately i had some issues
00:56.46b4k4^^yeah
00:56.53AmarandeChrome and IE don't require any special tweaks, but if you don't disable hardware acceleration in FF you get lovely stuff like little black square artifacts on facebook all the time
00:56.59b4k4^^I'd say since maybe three months ago
00:57.17b4k4^^I don't get srtifacts, I get crashes and BSODs
00:57.22b4k4^^*artifacts
00:57.28Amarandealthough the main reason I quit using Firefox was because Google Play Books stopped working properly with it a few versions ago :|
00:57.28Eraclitoi have artifacts too
00:57.34Eraclitocursor getting mad
00:57.49Amarandelike, I'd get to the Play site, I'd go to Books, so far so good, I'd click My Library
00:58.33Amarandeand then the pane where the library appears would just be grey with that swirling circle "busy" icon until I gave up
00:58.38Eraclitoi wish i'll be able to afford a new system in the next year
00:59.21Eraclitoi want to start running wow on ultra
00:59.25Amarandemy system is just about reaching perfection for the time being
00:59.35Amarandewhich kinda saddens me, because I like to do upgrades and now I can't really justify any more upgrades :S
00:59.46Eraclitoi don't have money for anything near perfection
00:59.54AmarandeHD7850 is really all you need for gaming nowadays
00:59.58b4k4^^I can justify switching to Intel, kinda
01:00.04b4k4^^except I don't really need to
01:00.09AmarandeI've got an SSD and a hard drive alongside it
01:00.33AmarandeI have an FX-6300 with a large overclock, which is about as far as I can go CPU-wise on this motherboard
01:00.34b4k4^^I have an ancient-ish system drive but WoW is on an SSD :P
01:00.45AmarandeI've got 8GB of DDR3-1866
01:00.50AmarandeI've got a Blu-ray reader
01:01.00Amarandeand a card reader
01:01.22Amarandethere really just does not seem much worthy of upgrading till it comes time to build another rig altogether :S
01:01.43b4k4^^I could buy a Blu-ray drive, but...
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01:02.13b4k4^^I mostly use optical drives for rpiing CDs :P
01:02.18b4k4^^*ripping
01:02.35Amarandespeaking of blu-ray I need to pay for WinDVD Pro 11 one of these weeks
01:04.49Eraclito...let's hope the bsod didn't fry wow settings
01:05.01Eraclitoit crashed my firefox tabs, so...
01:06.05AmarandeEraclito, you're usually left with whatever your UI had when you last logged off or did /reloadui
01:06.15Amarandeunless it BSOD'd while you were logging off or doing reloadui
01:06.19Amarandethen it's probably toast
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01:07.03Eraclitoi don't know if it already loaded
01:07.19Eraclitobecause i was switching characters
01:07.27Eraclito...seems i got lucky this time
01:07.35Eraclitoeverything's okay
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02:07.52kullervo04:05:36> Ji-Kun Talon Rake hit You 333770 Physical. (720231 Absorbed)
02:08.28kullervomonk OP
02:09.20b4k4^^nerf everything
02:09.37b4k4^^owait, that's what they're doing, kinda :P
02:09.37kullervoI think I could've survived until like the 16th stack or so
02:10.03kullervosince that didn't even have Guard in it, just stagger and I think dampen harm
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12:16.15Dennis2http://i.imgur.com/v5xsUFf.jpg :D
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14:41.44TororossoHello
14:43.25Tororossoanyway ... i am looking for some players for a 5 man instance leveling group/guild from 15lvl-90lvl --- if intrested let me know ... thanks
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22:30.19NullEntity:( WoW Wiki's IRC page is extremely out of date. This is the first channel I could find that actually exists.
22:32.25AmarandeNullEntity: wowwiki itself is kind of deprecated
22:32.34Amarandethe usual wiki reference people use now is wowpedia
22:32.56Amarandethough Wikia keeps aggressively SEOing so wowpedia almost never seems to dominate the search results over wowwiki :(
22:33.17NullEntityI think Wikia just being wikia causes high SEO results
22:33.58NullEntityhuh, the IRC is 90% the same as WoWWiki's
22:34.03NullEntityIRC page
22:35.57NullEntityI need to figure out how to force myself to grind to 90. I keep playing on and off and by the time I renew my sub, my friends are all on a different server. Highest I got was 69.
22:37.16b4k4^^roll a monk, at least it will be faster that way
22:37.55b4k4^^+50% XP once a day and after every ten levels, can get several buffs a day
22:39.03NullEntityI got a friend to play with me. My main's a level 40 druid, but I created a monk to play with RAF with my friend.
22:39.15NullEntityHe's waiting to get the battle chest though so I'm trying to avoid playing =/
22:39.18NullEntityplaying him
22:39.42AmarandeNullEntity: well, wowpedia did begin as a carbon copy of wowwiki at the time
22:39.48NullEntityah, okay
22:40.24Amarandebasically it's the same original maintainers, they wanted to get the hell off of wikia because wikia was starting to suck
22:40.45Amarandeand still sucks, mind you, with all the advertising they do, I'd estimate considerably less than half of the content on a typical wikia page is actually the page :P
22:40.54Amarandeit's the same with the final fantasy wiki
22:41.32AmarandeI've never used RAF, and if I ever do, I'll probably just do it for the mount and try to carefully avoid the XP bonuses :P
22:41.32NullEntityto be fair, after running my own site, I don't block ads on smaller sites anymore
22:41.57NullEntityI can barely afford the $20/mo for my site and I make about $1 a month in ad revenue.
22:42.13AmarandeI'm actually letting my domain die out soon so I can save $10.95 a month in hosting fees
22:42.23Amarandereally only two things I have left to do at this point :S
22:42.43Amarandewell three, counting actually cancelling the hosting (the domain itself's going to expire in about a month, so I'll just fail to renew it)
22:42.52NullEntityI have my shared hosting locked in at like $4/mo renewing like every two years
22:42.58NullEntityit's great
22:43.13Amarandeone, make sure all the forum accounts I care about have been migrated to using my gmail
22:43.36Amarandetwo, see if I can do something about the sig rotator scripts I have there for my fiancee and I, which are about the last things actively being used on the hosting atm at all
22:43.42NullEntityAmarande, nothing beats having my email as firstname@firstnamelastname.com
22:44.02NullEntityeveryone's like "oooh, you have your own website?"
22:44.23Amarandeeh, I wanted to get rid of dreamhost hosting anyway
22:44.43Amarandeprimarily because their email got too annoying to configure due to, well, probably due to decisions that keep costs low, but still :|
22:44.58Amarandebasically it seems to have fallen foul of the evolution of SSL/TLS
22:45.05NullEntitymy important community site though I run off of a Linode VPS
22:45.22Amarandesee, back in the day, the absolute primary purpose of SSL appears to have been the encrypted transport
22:45.39Amarandewhereas site authentication seems to originally have been "a nice thing to have"
22:45.45NullEntityI need to set up emails still on my vps. I put on Debian and never got my emails back.
22:46.00Amarandenowadays, the way browsers behave? the site identity authentication feature seems to have actually become PRIMARY, while encrypted transport may even be thought of as less important :P
22:46.24Amarandethe problem with dreamhost is that they don't give in to the verisign cartel and pony up for a cert for every customer domain
22:46.45Amarandeso whenever you try to https your email, you have to work your way through the "I can't verify this site's identity properly!" warning BS
22:47.14Amarande(especially fun when accessing the spam folder, which requires an especially arcane procedure because the fact that squirrelmail uses iframes tends to trip the non-overridable form of identity mismatch ...)
22:47.41Amarandeand damned if I'm going to access my email without encrypted transport
22:47.52NullEntityyeah, mine's the same. My hosting's through Bluehost. My email looks at firstnamelastname.com but the server identifies as box###.bluehost.com
22:48.01Amarandethese days, your email account is at least as important as your Social, if not MORE so
22:48.33NullEntityit's actually really surprising how many sites don't use HTTPS logins
22:48.46Amarande(probably about equal in terms of ID security, the ONLY mitigating factor is that you can at least change your email account readily ...)
22:49.26Amarandewell, for some it's probably forgivable. like your average web forum or wiki probably doesn't need it
22:49.42NullEntitybut a ton of people use the same password for their emails
22:49.45Amarandewell
22:49.55Amarandethat's one's own damn fault for not following good password policy :S
22:50.25AmarandeI have about as little sympathy for someone who goes around with their social security card taped to their forehead :)
22:50.50NullEntitythat'd be fun
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22:57.28NullEntitywhat's ipv6 adoption like currently? don't most ISPs support them nowadays?
22:59.00kullervoEraclito: http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2013-12-08_00-58-53.jpg
22:59.16kullervocould really use a cape, damn legendaries can't be mogged
23:00.00Eraclitoi usually hide capes
23:00.11Eraclitothey rarely fit
23:00.14kullervoyeah but capes really do bind some sets together
23:00.19Eraclitoyeah
23:00.20kullervoyou just have to try
23:00.22Eraclitowhen they fit, they're pretty cool
23:00.49Eraclitoi remember i found a good cape for the rogue tier2, i think i still have it in bags
23:01.11Eraclitoi think i'll give it a try when we'll get the new cape animations
23:03.07kullervoI just want to mog them
23:06.50Eraclitotransmog was maybe the best Cataclysm feature
23:06.59Eraclitoand i still remember people complain about it
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23:48.52Matt123Hello everyone
23:49.01Matt123any1 wants to do Firelands for transmog ? EU alliance

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