| 00:06.27 | kullervo | yay Baleroc down solo |
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| 00:34.19 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2013-11-29_02-33-49.png |
| 00:34.21 | kullervo | lolwut |
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| 02:55.47 | meira1 | hi |
| 02:56.02 | meira1 | never used this before |
| 02:56.06 | meira1 | anyone here? |
| 02:58.18 | kullervo | meira1: many people, actually |
| 02:59.39 | kullervo | think of IRC as the water machine with a message board at an office building |
| 02:59.58 | kullervo | you might meet someone who's actually present, or end up leaving messages and reading them days apart |
| 03:00.48 | kullervo | some people appear to be standing there but it's just a machine |
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| 03:15.01 | meira1 | so hardly anyone uses this |
| 03:15.05 | meira1 | boring |
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| 03:25.22 | kd3 | it's also thanksgiving night. most people are probably not looking at their computer |
| 03:27.15 | Mr_Rabies | you're a computer, kd3 |
| 03:29.41 | kullervo | meira1: rather, a large number of people use "this" but they have always-on solutions |
| 03:29.58 | kullervo | Mr_Rabies: sshhh that's rude |
| 03:30.15 | kullervo | kd3: but bear in mind the rest of the world doesn't recognize thanksgiving |
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| 04:18.47 | Domh | To be fair though, it's not nearly as active as it was 2-3 years ago |
| 04:22.29 | JunkHead | That's true. |
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| 09:44.07 | b4k4^^ | nyan |
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| 12:03.45 | JunkHead | Morning all. |
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| 16:05.34 | ReV | hello |
| 16:15.20 | kullervo | I was just about to buy lunch when some junkie entered the store and I had to go look after him |
| 16:15.36 | kullervo | fuck everything, and especially that guy |
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| 16:21.14 | ReV | this channel pretty active? |
| 16:21.39 | kullervo | used to be |
| 16:21.54 | kullervo | now people think it isn't and say nothing because of that |
| 16:22.01 | ReV | im new, are there any more active channels? |
| 16:26.21 | Amarande | kullervo: heh you know what's fun, the vanilla extract alcoholics |
| 16:26.59 | Amarande | way back when, in my early years at the store I work at, there was this one guy who would come in late at night or on sundays and take bottles of vanilla extract into the bathroom and drink 'em as liquor |
| 16:27.10 | Amarande | I never saw the guy, I'm not sure if anyone else did either, all they ever found were the bottles |
| 16:27.42 | Amarande | you know in that regard I'm surprised we didn't have a sales spike of vanilla extract on Sundays, say |
| 16:33.04 | JunkHead | It would be nice if this channel got active again. |
| 16:40.02 | Amarande | JunkHead, maybe when WoD is imminent? |
| 16:40.20 | Amarande | ATM, we're probably just entering the full-on EoEE phase :| |
| 16:41.02 | Amarande | sadly, this seems to be a particularly common phenomenon with WoW :( |
| 16:41.33 | Amarande | I don't really see it be the case with LOTRO or SW:TOR, but with WoW the cycle is particularly noticeable |
| 16:42.34 | Amarande | Expansion comes out, people come flooding in/back, lots of activity for a few months, then the final raid of the expansion comes out |
| 16:42.47 | Amarande | and then you have something like a year of end of expansion ennui until the next one hits, etc. |
| 17:05.59 | kullervo | channels stay active when people talk about things not related to the name |
| 17:06.01 | narwhalbot | [Wowhead News] Blizzard Black Friday Sales - http://www.wowhead.com/news=224734/blizzard-black-friday-sales |
| 17:06.18 | kullervo | like the mage channel in quakenet |
| 17:07.15 | JunkHead | MoP is actually cheaper on amazon (US at least) |
| 17:07.49 | Amarande | that's been the case with a lot of digital vs. retail purchase options |
| 17:07.49 | JunkHead | but i guess if you need instant access blizz store is better option |
| 17:07.51 | kullervo | I got it for like 10 euros a month after release |
| 17:08.08 | Amarande | like Diablo 2, you can get the battle chest from gamestop for 30 bucks that includes D2 and LoD |
| 17:08.08 | JunkHead | I bought a few |
| 17:08.14 | Amarande | it's still 60 total with the expansion from battle.net :) |
| 17:08.17 | JunkHead | I got 3 battlechests and 3 x MoP |
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| 20:14.24 | Dennls5 | wooo 1/14H |
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| 21:23.26 | kullervo | Dennls5: immersius? |
| 21:50.33 | fewyn | so RAFing dungeons, about ~5 levels each dungeon so far this is so sexy |
| 22:10.53 | kullervo | which weapon enchant do I want for my priest alt? |
| 22:11.04 | kullervo | basically, windsong or elemental force |
| 22:11.07 | kullervo | deciding factor is proc chance |
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| 22:46.11 | Dennls5 | yup kullervo immerseus |
| 22:47.15 | kullervo | Dennls: rest 3 should be easy then |
| 22:47.46 | Dennls | wiped 2 times on protectors then my internet went down :( |
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| 23:01.03 | JunkHead | Hmm, I think we might have to start 2 healing normal tonight. |
| 23:01.09 | JunkHead | We 3 healed last week. |
| 23:01.37 | Dennls | what bosses are you doing? |
| 23:02.10 | Domh | 2 healing becomes viable fast enough |
| 23:02.16 | Dennls | idd for most bosses it is |
| 23:02.30 | Domh | We had to 2 heal paragons and garrosh because of DPS requirements when were first did it |
| 23:02.38 | JunkHead | Well last week was our first week trying normal. |
| 23:02.42 | Dennls | yup we did aswell domh |
| 23:02.49 | Dennls | òur healers didnt struggle with paragons tho |
| 23:03.04 | JunkHead | brb |
| 23:03.26 | Domh | Paragons wasn't too bad. Garrosh was a bit spotty till I went from disc to holy |
| 23:03.35 | Dennls | we had 2 disc priests on our kill |
| 23:03.45 | Domh | Nice |
| 23:04.04 | Domh | Our first kill was holy priest, resto shaman. |
| 23:04.43 | Domh | We're currently rotating the healer team through to get the kill for everyone |
| 23:06.24 | JunkHead | ok sorr |
| 23:06.30 | JunkHead | last week was our first week |
| 23:06.34 | JunkHead | we got to spoils |
| 23:06.51 | Domh | Spoils can go diaf |
| 23:06.57 | JunkHead | We had at least 1-2 puggers both nights. |
| 23:07.01 | Domh | That's what my other guild is on |
| 23:07.03 | JunkHead | This week, we should have 10. |
| 23:07.10 | Domh | We didn't get it last week. I'm going to blame fewyn. |
| 23:07.11 | JunkHead | But we might be out our disc priest |
| 23:07.18 | Domh | Just to see if he's paying attention :p |
| 23:07.22 | JunkHead | Our other 2 healers are a monk and shaman |
| 23:07.40 | fewyn | i'm paying attention |
| 23:07.40 | fewyn | not |
| 23:07.43 | Domh | Monks are very good at topping people off it seems, but I don't raid with one in the group regularly |
| 23:07.50 | JunkHead | I remember tlaking to kullervo a while back and he said his guild 2 healed everything but Immesius and.... Jugernaut? |
| 23:07.54 | JunkHead | I don't remember. |
| 23:08.06 | Domh | fewyn, do you know if we're extending this weekend? I forgot to check. |
| 23:08.13 | JunkHead | We have a spriest who can heal if we need her to, but I'd like to see how well we do with 2 healers. |
| 23:08.24 | fewyn | fuck if i know |
| 23:08.35 | Domh | Juggernaut is doable, but hard to 2 heal if people get knocked far apart |
| 23:08.37 | fewyn | no one tells me things |
| 23:08.41 | kullervo | JunkHead: no we 2-heal immersius too |
| 23:08.48 | Domh | immersus is okay if you have off heals |
| 23:08.49 | kullervo | faster |
| 23:09.03 | JunkHead | I think you mentioned something like..imeersius would be ok to 3 heal due to the lobs? |
| 23:09.12 | JunkHead | or maybe i misread you. |
| 23:09.15 | Domh | like shaman and shadow priests. |
| 23:09.22 | JunkHead | Im just trying to piece a strat for our comp |
| 23:09.29 | kullervo | immersius can be 3-healed if you must |
| 23:09.43 | Domh | Yeah, extra heals means you can get more healing adds down. More of the ads are healing adds at the end so that would probably balance out. |
| 23:11.09 | JunkHead | http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=eu2ti7r0oy000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 23:11.13 | JunkHead | this is what we have tonight. |
| 23:11.20 | kullervo | Domh: then again we have a monk |
| 23:11.24 | JunkHead | the extra slot is a guy who can play anythign really. |
| 23:11.34 | kullervo | healing orbs mean they can instantly heal the adds one at a time and gain progressively more and more healing |
| 23:11.38 | JunkHead | he has a rogue, ret pally, mage, or lock he can bring in |
| 23:12.56 | kullervo | which reminds me, I've got to mail the fucker some green orbs on tuesday |
| 23:13.23 | Domh | Kullervo, I wish I was a monk. I was going to be a mistweaver this expac. But the gf convinced me to level with her and now I have a brewmaster instead of a mistweaver - and no idea how to heal on it. |
| 23:13.37 | Domh | *I wish I was a mistweaver monk |
| 23:13.39 | kullervo | Domh: l2p issue |
| 23:13.49 | kullervo | I switched by tanking lfr and gathering healing gear |
| 23:13.53 | Domh | Mostly, lack of time issue. |
| 23:13.55 | kullervo | then hard switching to healer until I knew how to play it |
| 23:13.58 | Domh | Since I raid on my priest and shaman |
| 23:14.04 | Domh | The monk gets neglected |
| 23:15.15 | Domh | Besides, I kinda like brewmaster. And healing sucks balls for open world stuff like soloing warbringers, and even the regular rares take too long. . . |
| 23:15.58 | kullervo | no shit |
| 23:16.01 | kullervo | but it's faster than as a brewmaster |
| 23:16.05 | kullervo | since MW has more dps |
| 23:16.35 | kullervo | if you want dps, play WW |
| 23:16.50 | JunkHead | how much vp do you get per boss in normal soo? |
| 23:16.52 | Domh | Yeah, but tanking them is easier. I can go get a snack. :P I have ww offspec for the rare hunting though |
| 23:16.52 | JunkHead | 40? |
| 23:16.57 | b4k4^^ | 40 |
| 23:16.59 | JunkHead | and 60 if you have a capped character? |
| 23:17.03 | JunkHead | ok thought so. thanks |
| 23:17.08 | Domh | Haven't actually killed warbringers in a while - couldn't with WW when I tried - not skilled enough with it maybe. |
| 23:17.33 | Domh | I'm also up over 40 ilvl since then thoug >_> |
| 23:18.48 | JunkHead | Also, while I'm thinking about it... The blind blademaster guys before and after dark shaman.... |
| 23:18.56 | JunkHead | Someone in lfr said you can just ignore them |
| 23:18.59 | JunkHead | is that true? |
| 23:19.16 | Domh | Yes, mount up and run by |
| 23:19.25 | Domh | Cause cause issues dropping combat later though |
| 23:19.30 | Domh | *can cause |
| 23:19.34 | JunkHead | they wont attack? |
| 23:19.36 | JunkHead | hmm,... |
| 23:19.56 | JunkHead | Well the guy said to ignore them, but naturally someone attacked immediately so I never got to see what happened |
| 23:20.01 | JunkHead | Theyre annoying though |
| 23:20.02 | Domh | They will, but they're blind :p |
| 23:20.05 | Domh | So they won't follow |
| 23:20.42 | JunkHead | being kept in combat shouldn't be too bad though in that area, if someone dies they can run right in. |
| 23:20.58 | JunkHead | and if resetting general still works, that might clear it. |
| 23:21.12 | Amarande | heh, I'm meanwhile getting ready to start a minstrel in LOTRO |
| 23:21.13 | Domh | yeah. . . we've had issues with persistent combat up until Nazgrim though. It gets annoying - first wipe will fix it though :p |
| 23:21.15 | JunkHead | someone in lfr told me that didnt work anymore also. but again. no proof |
| 23:21.26 | kullervo | Domh: I killed LK25H as WW exactly twice |
| 23:21.34 | kullervo | once to see if it's possible and 2nd time to fraps the kill |
| 23:21.43 | kullervo | guess why I won't do it agian |
| 23:22.37 | Domh | Boredom? |
| 23:22.53 | Domh | Easier as mistweaver? |
| 23:23.14 | Domh | Ninjas broke your thumbs? |
| 23:23.16 | kullervo | harder as a MW actually, 100k lower dps |
| 23:23.27 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/gallery/photos/Screenshots/World%20of%20Warcraft/WoWScrnShot_112913_002635.jpg |
| 23:23.48 | Domh | Oh, because you don't need to :p |
| 23:24.37 | fewyn | your face is easier as mistweaver |
| 23:25.05 | JunkHead | ooooooooh! |
| 23:27.07 | Amarande | kullervo: is that really that much of a factor with LK? |
| 23:27.15 | Amarande | the only thing I can think dps being a factor there with would be the enrage timer |
| 23:27.18 | kullervo | Amarande: 50% increased dps |
| 23:27.23 | Amarande | which is super long for LK |
| 23:27.26 | kullervo | yes, yes it is |
| 23:27.37 | kullervo | you don't get to use the highest dps rotation as MW due to adds |
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| 23:28.24 | Amarande | hm, wouldn't you not get to use the highest dps rotation as anything due to add management |
| 23:28.39 | Amarande | mostly, having to pawn off the necrotic plague onto the big adds so you don't get omgwtfgibbed for a million |
| 23:28.40 | kullervo | Amarande: WW doesn't suffer as much |
| 23:28.49 | Amarande | which means you better not kill them too quickly |
| 23:29.04 | Amarande | (hah, we actually did have one of our tanks I think it was take a million from necrotic, back during LK) |
| 23:29.23 | Amarande | no kill like overkill, right? :D |
| 23:29.39 | kullervo | Amarande: no you don't get the disease at all when soloing |
| 23:31.24 | Amarande | huh, interesting |
| 23:31.32 | Amarande | guessing it tags to the second threat list target or some such? |
| 23:31.43 | Amarande | (IIRC, usually stuff that tags the tank always hits you when soloing, OTOH) |
| 23:32.03 | kullervo | it never targets the tank |
| 23:32.07 | kullervo | except when jumping |
| 23:32.13 | Amarande | ah, that would be why |
| 23:32.19 | Amarande | I wonder if hunters and warlocks have problems with it then |
| 23:32.37 | kullervo | no, pets don't trigger it otherwise I would've done the "I've been waiting a long time" achievement solo |
| 23:32.43 | kullervo | however, pets do trigger val'kyrs |
| 23:32.58 | kullervo | so you can't use them in p2 |
| 23:33.22 | Amarande | Yeah, val'kyrs may be pretty, but I find that dates with them always involve a rather painful letdown :) |
| 23:34.07 | kullervo | I should come up with some music for my video |
| 23:35.02 | b4k4^^ | :D |
| 23:35.40 | kullervo | the ending of course has mr. Eduard Khil |
| 23:35.44 | kullervo | since lol mount |
| 23:35.50 | b4k4^^ | you can write poems after you're let go tho |
| 23:36.03 | kullervo | shame I hit stop record before actually using it |
| 23:42.02 | Domh | So. . I've learned that the pandaren fishing charm I've been saving is not consumable. :/ |
| 23:42.08 | Domh | This is why it pays to look things up |
| 23:43.29 | kullervo | haha |
| 23:43.30 | kullervo | fool :D |
| 23:44.08 | Domh | Hey now, back when I first read about it, it was speculated to be consumable and repeatable. I only ever learned it wasn't repeatable :p |
| 23:44.17 | Domh | I haven't really fished much this expac anyway |
| 23:47.15 | Amarande | heh, I haven't bothered using fishing boosters in quite a while |
| 23:47.37 | Amarande | fishing levels a lot faster now anyway, and I do most of my fishing from pools unless I need something specific that's from open water |
| 23:47.44 | Domh | Boosters? I mean the charm that has a chance to grant extra fish |
| 23:47.48 | b4k4^^ | having effective fishing skill of ~900 would be silly |
| 23:48.10 | Amarande | and pools are never-fail now, which I <3 |
| 23:48.21 | Amarande | of course it also means I have a flying tiger gourami that I can't use for like, ages LOL |
| 23:48.33 | b4k4^^ | ^ |
| 23:49.00 | Amarande | snagged it from a nearby pool when I was on my level 30 zen pilgrimage |
| 23:49.02 | b4k4^^ | "oh, I need fish for cooking, so nice to get a bunch of quest fish" |
| 23:49.07 | b4k4^^ | :D |
| 23:49.22 | b4k4^^ | those need to be BoA :P |
| 23:49.43 | b4k4^^ | but with a real short expiry timer |
| 23:49.49 | Domh | Also 900 would be pointless as 825 is the max no catch in Pandaria :p |
| 23:50.07 | b4k4^^ | well yes |
| 23:50.47 | Domh | but seriously, the extra fish charm. Really wish I'd know I could reuse it |
| 23:50.58 | b4k4^^ | haven't really bothered after I got the fishing competition rewards before MoP |
| 23:51.16 | b4k4^^ | only need the rare fish to get the title |
| 23:51.29 | b4k4^^ | (fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu) |
| 23:51.31 | Domh | I need pinchy and the coins |
| 23:51.52 | Amarande | I can't get the fishing title anyway, unless they fixed something since 5.0 |
| 23:51.55 | Domh | got the rare fish doing the STV contest. Crushfish or something |
| 23:51.56 | b4k4^^ | pinchy is relatively easy as far as I know |
| 23:52.04 | Domh | Amarande, why not? |
| 23:52.21 | b4k4^^ | dunno if I should try to get it on a DW capable toon |
| 23:52.30 | b4k4^^ | because hey, dualwielding fish! |
| 23:52.42 | Domh | yeah, but you can't transmog them |
| 23:53.02 | b4k4^^ | Domh: I think a junk node was removed when MoP hit |
| 23:53.18 | b4k4^^ | *a junk node type |
| 23:53.19 | Amarande | Domh: because they removed bloodsail wreckage nodes |
| 23:53.26 | Amarande | but unless they fixed it since 5.0, they didn't remove it from the achievement |
| 23:53.32 | Amarande | so if you didn't already HAVE that for the achievement, you can't get it |
| 23:53.32 | Domh | they added those back |
| 23:53.43 | Amarande | ah |
| 23:53.53 | Amarande | yeah apparently it was some sort of f-up related to the fishing contest |
| 23:54.18 | b4k4^^ | yay fishing contest f-ups |
| 23:54.41 | Domh | That reminds me - I need to do that contest on my monk this week |
| 23:54.55 | b4k4^^ | I already have everything I want from those |
| 23:55.15 | b4k4^^ | oomkin has the ring |
| 23:55.15 | Domh | Before Velen and Eonar merge and I have more competition. (I'm told the contest is actually signle realm only, though the zone is crossrealm and the nodes are.) |
| 23:55.37 | Domh | I have everything I could use on the priest. I want the rod and boots on the monk |
| 23:55.50 | Domh | I have the rod on 3 characters now I think. Maybe 4. |
| 23:55.59 | b4k4^^ | (should level that odd little shapeshifter, have full set of looms and a +300% XP pot =P) |
| 23:56.08 | Amarande | eh, the only thing I really see as valuable anymore is the ring, perhaps |
| 23:56.30 | Domh | That reminds me, I need to see if the exp pot stacks with the RAF bonus. I've been told it does and that it's mulitplicative |
| 23:56.32 | Amarande | (especially since the other heirloom rings that are statted out on wowhead apparently never made it in, though you never know if they'll slip in eventually) |
| 23:56.33 | b4k4^^ | I don't want the rod, already have better one on my old main |
| 23:56.51 | Amarande | the rod is only a little better than the more easily accessible bonus skill rods |
| 23:57.02 | Domh | I just like collecting the fishing gear. The pally has an actual fishing outfit, from back when it had the bagspace to fish :p |
| 23:57.08 | Domh | silly transmog. Ate all my space. |
| 23:57.17 | b4k4^^ | got a +40 skill rod from some bag I think |
| 23:57.45 | Domh | +30 from the bags |
| 23:58.04 | kd3 | er, the only +40 is from the fishing tournament |
| 23:58.08 | b4k4^^ | kk |
| 23:58.13 | b4k4^^ | misremembered then |
| 23:58.17 | kd3 | +30s from bags/other places |
| 23:58.18 | Amarande | IMO, the contest mattered more back in the BC days, when not only did fishing level slowly, but you actually needed to scrounge up all the gear boosts to reliably fish the best fish |
| 23:58.56 | Amarande | yeah if you do your fishing dailies regularly you'll get a +30 pretty soon |
| 23:58.57 | b4k4^^ | world of fishcraft |
| 23:58.59 | Domh | The boots are nice for when hearth is on CD. But yes, it did matter then |
| 23:59.07 | Domh | I might do it to get the fish trinket for laughs. |
| 23:59.11 | b4k4^^ | have the boots on my mage... |
| 23:59.16 | b4k4^^ | yay teleports |
| 23:59.18 | Domh | Also I should work on my Pagle rep |
| 23:59.22 | b4k4^^ | ^ |
| 23:59.37 | b4k4^^ | (also, yay Theramore portals) |
| 23:59.44 | Amarande | hah, yay theramore portals |
| 23:59.47 | Amarande | you know what's a fun one |
| 23:59.50 | Amarande | do the theramore's fall scenario |
| 23:59.51 | b4k4^^ | (they don't kill you anymore tho) |
| 23:59.54 | Amarande | then teleport to theramore ... |
| 23:59.57 | Domh | b4k4^^, do you have the old Dalaran portal? That's more fin |
| 23:59.59 | Domh | fun even. |
