| 00:19.10 | fewyn | Anyone interested in buying a goodie bag from BlizzCon? It includes the virtual item code and a set of figurines. |
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| 01:21.43 | Amarande | holy. I just got a 132. |
| 01:28.38 | Sephiroth | <@fewyn> Anyone interested in buying a goodie bag from BlizzCon? It includes the virtual item code and a set of figurines. <- If only I had money, I would've purchased virtual ticket. :( |
| 01:30.18 | Eraclito | i bought the virtual ticket, but thanks anyway— if i knew you would sell one, maybe i would have bought the goodie bag instead |
| 01:30.48 | fewyn | i only got back home from blizzcon the other day and it was for my second ticket that ended up not getting used by anyone |
| 01:30.50 | Eraclito | (so... http://i.imgur.com/OhQTrct.png <- do you guys think it's a retexture or a work-in-progress for the new model?) |
| 01:31.01 | fewyn | even know it was supposed to |
| 01:31.10 | Amarande | I'm glad I didn't buy the virtual ticket, since now I'll be plunking down about $150-200 for a new SSD probably tomorrow instead of in a few weeks like I had originally considered. |
| 01:31.31 | Amarande | well, new hard drive (I don't have an SSD at the moment yet), but I might as well make the upgrade to SSD as I do |
| 01:32.05 | Amarande | hard disk has been oddly loud for the last couple days at least, tonight I got a super slow loading time and then got a 132 shortly afterwards |
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| 02:29.25 | kullervo | hahaa, always nice to see your main AH competitors somewhere else than the auctioneer |
| 02:29.50 | kullervo | this one guy who I see undercutting me at godless hours was wiping at Hexxos for ages |
| 02:29.55 | Amarande | well, anyone who competed with me will probably be seeing me in an entirely different game shortly |
| 02:30.13 | Amarande | time to wipe this hard drive in prep for disposal, and I don't feel like redoing my UI again so it's off to LOTRO or SW:TOR where you don't get that luxury :) |
| 02:30.27 | Amarande | actually hm I should try to grab my mail before I unsub, too |
| 02:30.32 | Amarande | so I don't have a bunch of stuff rot |
| 02:30.56 | Amarande | oh, sure |
| 02:31.00 | Amarande | NOW Illidan would be queued |
| 02:31.00 | Amarande | :( |
| 02:32.02 | Amarande | aright, where is my most recent linux live cd |
| 02:32.32 | Amarande | here we are |
| 03:13.20 | kullervo | imgur now has youtube support in its lightbox script |
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| 14:06.51 | Legaly | Hello, when winners of the blizzcon contest are going to be announced? |
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| 16:58.02 | kullervo | Soon (tm) |
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| 18:06.01 | narwhalbot | [Wowhead News] Post-BlizzCon Online Store Sale 11/15-17, No Virtual Ticket Required - http://www.wowhead.com/news=223876/post-blizzcon-online-store-sale-11-15-17-no-virtual-ticket-required |
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| 20:11.10 | kullervo | wtf the wowhead news link tried to run something |
| 20:11.39 | kullervo | some advertisement asked for permissions |
| 20:11.50 | fewyn | kullervo please report it |
| 20:11.52 | fewyn | to feedback |
| 20:12.12 | fewyn | we're trying to rid ourselves of those type of ads |
| 20:12.16 | fewyn | but we need help reporting them |
| 20:12.16 | kullervo | I will once I'm on a desktop |
| 20:12.21 | fewyn | thanks |
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| 21:04.51 | Jammer | fewyn: is it not possible to prescreen ads? |
| 21:05.02 | fewyn | no |
| 21:24.46 | kullervo | fewyn: unfortunately I can't reproduce the issue so reporting this would be fairly pointless |
| 21:24.57 | fewyn | so what was it doing exactly kullervo |
| 21:25.06 | fewyn | you were on your phone and it tried to download something? |
| 21:25.19 | kullervo | "do you want to run this thing" |
| 21:25.51 | kullervo | it only ever asks that for drive-by downloads, seen such on other sites so I reflexively hit cancel |
| 21:28.41 | kullervo | what... An AD for Microsoft stock :D |
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| 21:29.58 | kullervo | and Google |
| 21:32.44 | fewyn | thanks kullervo |
| 21:32.47 | fewyn | it's a known issue |
| 21:32.52 | fewyn | and we're trying to take care of it |
| 21:33.55 | kullervo | alright |
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| 22:13.04 | Dennls | [23:13:03]<Deadly Boss Mods> Combat against Flexible - Kor'kron Dark Shaman (1%) ended after 4 minutes and 24 seconds. You have 1 total wipes on this difficulty. |
| 22:13.04 | Dennls | wtf |
| 22:13.06 | Dennls | he just despwaned |
| 22:13.08 | Dennls | out of nowhere |
| 22:13.38 | Dennls | they even |
| 22:13.53 | Amarande | heh, isn't it also nice that when it does a bug-out reset, DBM credits you with wiping? :) |
| 22:14.05 | Dennls | yeah |
| 22:19.59 | Dennls | [23:19:54]<Deadly Boss Mods> Flexible - Kor'kron Dark Shaman down after 4 minutes and 13 seconds! Your last kill took 3 minutes and 30 seconds and your fastest kill took 3 minutes and 30 seconds. You have 6 total victories. |
| 22:20.00 | Dennls | 'woohoo |
| 22:25.32 | kullervo | Dennls: if one of the slimes evadeglitches the whole encounter may reset |
| 22:26.03 | kullervo | SoO is glitchy as hell in general |
| 22:26.08 | Amarande | ahhh, silly things like "evade" |
| 22:26.17 | Amarande | I've always felt that feature a little ... artificial LOL |
| 22:26.24 | Amarande | they have it in LOTRO too, and sometimes it causes pain in the arse issues there too |
| 22:26.29 | kullervo | a mage in my guild often falls under the map by blinking |
| 22:26.42 | Amarande | (I'm guessing it probably exists in SWTOR as well, but given how few combatants in SWTOR lack ranged attacks at all, it's pretty hard to trigger) |
| 22:26.51 | kullervo | I once fell through the map on my paladin at Galakras but luckily got back by jumping in the right direction |
| 22:27.01 | Eraclito | the last time i fell under the map i was in borean tundra |
| 22:27.08 | Eraclito | while blinking, i mean |
| 22:27.13 | Amarande | but I mean really ... in D2 or D3, if you get mobs as "fish in a barrel" so to speak, you can feel free to make like a Dalek and EXTERMINATE |
| 22:27.20 | Amarande | do that in a regular MMO, though, and "oh sorry evade and reset" :p |
| 22:27.43 | Amarande | heh |
| 22:27.50 | Amarande | the last time I fell under a map in any RPG was in Morrowind |
| 22:27.54 | kullervo | another guildie got knocked from heroic iron juggernaut to the Thok hallway |
| 22:28.02 | Amarande | somehow I managed to clip through a ramp in I think the Balmora mages guild or some such |
| 22:28.11 | Amarande | thankfully I hit something solid before I'd fallen far enough to die |
| 22:28.39 | Amarande | though there was that strange freak glitch in Icecrown zone once (I've learned since then, NEVER hearth off the faction zeppelins) |
| 22:29.20 | Amarande | and I remember one spot in a Sith Inquisitor instance in SWTOR where you can go inside a computer/heater/some such bank that's on a side wall of a corridor because one end isn't solid |
| 22:29.38 | Amarande | not that it really helps you, since it doesn't lead anywhere but the small, contains-nothing space under said bank |
| 22:30.51 | kullervo | Amarande: what, does something fun happen if you do that? |
| 22:31.12 | Amarande | kullervo: which, hearth off the faction zeppelins? |
| 22:31.16 | kullervo | yes |
| 22:31.21 | Amarande | well, in my case |
| 22:31.37 | Amarande | it caused me to be teleported to the far northwest corner of icecrown zone, over the water, instead of to my hearth location |
| 22:31.47 | Amarande | then I fell really slowly compared to usual, took me maybe 30 seconds to hit the water |
| 22:31.50 | kullervo | whoa, I have to try that |
| 22:32.01 | Amarande | and then like a second after I hit the water, I insta-died, even though I still had almost half the fatigue timer left |
| 22:32.10 | Amarande | and then I popped up at XR graveyard instead of anywhere in northrend at all |
| 22:32.52 | Amarande | it was during wrath, don't know if it's been fixed since |
| 22:35.01 | Eraclito | i remember in wotlk i tried to fly afk to utgarde |
| 22:35.03 | Eraclito | then i forgot |
| 22:35.18 | Eraclito | i died well, somewhere after the fatigue |
| 22:35.25 | Eraclito | i released... westfall graveyard |
| 22:37.06 | Amarande | Eraclito: well that last bit is your fault for playing alliance |
| 22:37.06 | Amarande | LOK'TAR OGAR, buddy |
| 22:37.28 | Amarande | these days I've only been logging onto my alliance mage at all so I can do quick MGT and Kara runs in hopes of the mount |
| 22:37.47 | kullervo | Eraclito: I once tried flying to eastern kingdoms from northrend, didn't even see them despite being near the shore line according to map |
| 22:37.52 | kullervo | then I died due to fatique |
| 22:38.10 | kullervo | my ghost appeared at Crossroads, Barrens. |
| 22:38.18 | kullervo | and the corpse... Hillsbrad Foothills. |
| 22:43.34 | Amarande | kullervo: heh, it's apparently actually possible to reach the "edge" of Kalimdor |
| 22:43.44 | Amarande | and even witness just exactly how it's bounded off |
| 22:44.00 | Amarande | or was anyway ... there's a youtube video of someone doing it, I don't know if it's been nerfed since or not |
| 22:44.31 | Amarande | (wasn't really an exploit, they just did it the brute force way of using a class with robust self protection and healing capabilities to survive fatigue damage) |
| 22:44.58 | kullervo | Amarande: it definitely wasn't in WOTLK |
| 22:45.09 | kullervo | at least not without top ICC gear |
| 22:45.25 | kullervo | hmm.. or maybe it was in Cata when I tried |
| 22:45.43 | kullervo | because I had aura mastery for double mount speed bonus |
| 22:45.48 | Amarande | apparently if you go far enough there's a little strip of land that demarcates "this is the edge, that's it, that's all folks, really, go away now, burma shave" |
| 22:45.48 | Amarande | and then an inviso wall |
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| 22:46.18 | Amarande | yeah, it probably stopped being possible due to changes in healing mechanics, then |
| 22:46.24 | Amarande | because it really wasn't "specific exploit lets you go that far" just "on certain classes you can combine bubbles/self heals/etc. to survive fatigue long enough to reach the edge" |
| 22:46.51 | kullervo | yeah I was an okay holy paladin in Cata |
| 22:46.57 | kullervo | just not enough heals |
| 22:46.59 | Amarande | ah |
| 22:47.03 | Amarande | it was either Shaman or Paladin, but I'm not sure which now |
| 22:47.16 | kullervo | definitely a paladin |
| 22:47.21 | kullervo | highest mount speed of all classes |
| 22:47.41 | Amarande | I was thinking maybe Shaman because they could self rez once without having to release |
| 22:47.57 | Amarande | (since ghosts are subject to fatigue, that would be the only way to force extra distance) |
| 22:48.20 | Amarande | I'm not sure if the fatigue bar resets or not when you do that, though |
| 22:48.30 | kullervo | doesn't work, you spawn at your corpse |
| 22:48.45 | kullervo | and you can't ankh after releasing |
| 22:49.22 | Amarande | hm. there isn't the usual 6 minute release timer after dying that way? |
| 22:49.39 | Amarande | I think there might have used to be but I'm not sure, since I've never actually died OF fatigue that I can think of |
| 22:49.46 | kullervo | there is but what does that matter |
| 22:49.49 | Amarande | I've drowned a few times, and that one glitch in ICC I died while IN fatigue water but not OF it |
| 22:50.00 | Amarande | I mean, if you ankh instead of releasing, you pop right back up again where you died right? |
| 22:50.10 | kullervo | yeah |
| 22:50.34 | Amarande | what I'm not quite sure on is whether you'd immediately take damage from and die of fatigue again, or if you'd have 60 more seconds |
| 22:50.48 | kullervo | the timer would reset |
| 22:50.53 | Amarande | *ahhhhhhh* |
| 22:50.59 | Amarande | that may actually be the trick then |
| 22:51.03 | kullervo | but you'd still have to run at waterwalk mounted speed |
| 22:51.16 | kullervo | instead of flying at like 500% |
| 22:51.20 | Amarande | like I said, I can't remember now if he used a pally or a shaman |
| 22:52.37 | Amarande | a full extra minute of no fatigue damage thanks to ankh, that may be how it actually works |
| 22:52.43 | Amarande | remember, you can't fly during the fatigue phase ANYWAY |
| 22:52.51 | Amarande | because you need to be casting self heals too often |
| 22:53.02 | kullervo | you can fly until you start taking damage |
| 22:53.17 | kullervo | and then you can slowfall and cast instants |
| 22:53.19 | Amarande | but yeah, that might still work then, if you can get an extra minute without damage |
| 22:53.41 | Amarande | though I wouldn't be surprised if they've nerfed it |
| 22:53.44 | Amarande | they think of a lot of things, after all |
| 22:53.46 | kullervo | it's a shame the guild summon was removed |
| 22:53.59 | kullervo | I used to summon my guildies to stupid places like that all the time |
| 22:54.02 | Amarande | like I was kind of hoping that during that one quest in Hillsbrad you might be able to buy the Alliance specific AV PvP gear as Horde |
| 22:54.05 | kullervo | "Oh fuck not again... Where are we?" |
| 22:54.21 | Amarande | but they thought of that ... you can talk to the Alliance AV quartermaster and even sell stuff to him and repair your stuff, but you can't buy anything from him |
| 22:54.25 | kullervo | "UNDER WATER! BELOW THE MAP IN ORGRIMMAR, THIS IS MILES DEEP I HOPE YOU HAVE HS READY HAHAHA" |
| 22:55.34 | Amarande | also pity it requires a specific NPC to be tagging along with you who I betcha doesn't go outside a certain radius |
| 22:55.34 | Amarande | otherwise it would be dynamite for fishing achievements |
| 22:56.19 | Ward | anyone know what´s going on with OQueue |
| 22:56.35 | Ward | threads about it seem to be deleted before anyone can post in em |
| 22:56.42 | Ward | it´s completely vanished from curse |
| 22:56.54 | kullervo | Ward: removed from curse because it has a paypal link in the addon |
| 22:57.07 | kullervo | which is against blizzard ToS |
| 22:57.11 | Ward | is that against the wow tos? |
| 22:57.14 | Ward | or just curse´s? |
| 22:57.16 | Ward | ok |
| 22:57.32 | kullervo | you can still get new versions from the author's site |
| 22:57.33 | Ward | I still see everyone using it |
| 22:57.39 | fewyn | it's against wow's you can't ask for donations/money |
| 22:57.46 | fewyn | in the addon |
| 22:57.56 | fewyn | you can ask for them on the download page |
| 22:58.09 | kullervo | which many addons on curse do |
| 22:58.09 | Ward | is there an oqueue alternative? |
| 22:58.20 | kullervo | openraid but I don't think they have a mesh network addon |
| 22:58.25 | Ward | the whole addon is pretty horribly coded and bloated |
| 22:58.41 | Ward | I just wanna find crossrealm pugs for my world bosses :p |
| 22:58.43 | fewyn | i prefer openraid as the addon is buggy and annoying |
| 22:59.27 | Amarande | eh, is it that hard to fill in a group for world bosses now? |
| 22:59.33 | fewyn | sometimes |
| 22:59.37 | Amarande | and do you even need anywhere near 40 people with tier inflation as it is in MoP? |
| 22:59.37 | Ward | depends |
| 22:59.43 | Ward | on alliance side on my realm it´s easy |
| 22:59.50 | Ward | but horde side you need to find a group offrealm |
| 23:00.00 | Amarande | remember, guys like sha were designed for like ... nearly 100 ilvls below what raiders have now LOL |
| 23:00.04 | Ward | there´s current 3 horde on timeless isle on my realm |
| 23:00.08 | Ward | three |
| 23:00.10 | Ward | including me |
| 23:00.15 | Amarande | that's like ... A PREVIOUS EXPANSION WORLD BOSS rofl |
| 23:00.17 | kullervo | I also do flex with oQ because I rather roll the dice with oQ pugs than deal with about 95% of my realm's population |
| 23:00.28 | Ward | talking about Ordos Amarande |
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| 23:00.41 | kullervo | Ordos requires like 10 if you have kickass healers |
| 23:00.50 | Ward | I can´t even find 2 on my realm, hence OQ |
| 23:00.51 | Amarande | ah ... yeah, I'm not sure I'd ever need an addon on my usual servers to find groups for those |
| 23:00.53 | Amarande | Illidan Horde is usually packed to the gills |
| 23:01.06 | Amarande | (server usually queued during peak times on peak days, AND it's over 90% horde) |
| 23:01.10 | Ward | Outland EU is the most overpop and unbalance realm out there |
| 23:01.12 | Ward | 90% alliance |
| 23:01.16 | Amarande | and Ysera seems to have a pretty steady Alliance population |
| 23:01.27 | Amarande | Ward: yeah, sounds like that's the EU mirror to Illidan-US Horde, then |
| 23:01.38 | Ward | horde gets 1 ordos kill per week, that´s on wednesday night when 6 horde raids band together, fight their way too him |
| 23:01.48 | Ward | and tag and kill before getting wiped by the armies of the alliance |
| 23:01.56 | Amarande | Illidan is top pop on US and is about 92% horde |
| 23:02.09 | Ward | 5k queues too |
| 23:02.16 | Ward | 2 or 3 hours sometimes |
| 23:02.28 | Amarande | heh how does the realm forum put it ... if you find an alliance guy on illidan US, quick get out your master ball before it escapes |
| 23:02.30 | Ward | it´s still better than playing on the dead realms |
| 23:03.07 | Amarande | yeah, Illidan-US never has queues that long |
| 23:03.17 | Ward | crossrealm zoning has made outland slightly more tolerable, but there´s no horde side community |
| 23:03.18 | Amarande | usually in the 100 range when there are queues at all, sometimes 300-500 on bad nights |
| 23:03.45 | Amarande | unfortunately I won't be returning to WoW for a while anyway |
| 23:03.55 | Amarande | thanks to this little deal with this hard disk :p |
| 23:03.59 | Ward | those wednesday night battles are epic though, 60 people on a vent, coordinating multiple raids |
| 23:04.06 | Ward | flighting slowly up the ramps on timeless isle |
| 23:04.30 | Ward | get warlocks near ordos, secure a perimeter |
| 23:04.32 | Amarande | I suppose I could have tried to recover my MMO installations from the hard disk after setting up the SSD |
| 23:04.33 | Ward | summon 200 people |
| 23:04.40 | Amarande | but given that WoW apparently suffered corruption, that wouldn't have helped |
| 23:04.46 | Ward | just reinstall |
| 23:04.49 | Ward | it´s barely 20GB |
| 23:04.59 | Ward | I did it earlier on my laptop |
| 23:05.01 | Ward | 2 hours |
| 23:05.05 | Amarande | that's how I knew I needed to get a new drive right then and there, first the hard drive got overly loud, then I started getting 132's last night |
| 23:05.44 | Amarande | and usually if I get a 132 that means "dude, your hardware's fucked" |
| 23:05.44 | Amarande | last time I had a 132 it was bad RAM many years ago, for instance |
| 23:05.53 | Ward | oqueue moved ¨official¨ sites |
| 23:05.58 | Ward | the new one looks extremely dodgy |
| 23:06.00 | Ward | http://98.158.176.22/oqueue/index.html |
| 23:06.00 | Amarande | shouldn't be bad ram this time though. it was memtested previously and it's not overclocked, it's running at spec |
| 23:06.38 | Torhal | Ward: They just haven't gotten DNS set up is what it looks like. Amateurish, but not necessarily shady. |
| 23:06.53 | Ward | not just the IP is shady, the whole site |
| 23:07.04 | Torhal | Looks like the same site as before... |
| 23:09.01 | Ward | are addon settings stored in the individual addon folders? |
| 23:09.16 | Ward | or is that in saved variables? |
| 23:09.46 | Amarande | saved variables, usually |
| 23:10.11 | Torhal | Always. |
| 23:10.15 | Ward | ok |
| 23:10.19 | Ward | copying those too then |
| 23:10.55 | Amarande | Ward: if you want to copy your UI from a machine to another, just copy over the interface and WTF folders |
| 23:11.37 | Ward | ok |
| 23:12.06 | Ward | I also installed heartstone on my windows 8 tablet |
| 23:12.22 | Ward | amazing how well it runs on a mobile device |
| 23:12.33 | Amarande | what I REALLY wish existed though (maybe it does?) |
| 23:12.45 | Amarande | is a utility to reliably copy over all of one character's addon settings to another character |
| 23:12.53 | Amarande | profiles help, but you still have to go addon by addon, character by character |
| 23:13.05 | JunkHead- | I gotta figure out which one of my addons is broken. |
| 23:13.10 | Amarande | and some addons don't have profile support *and* don't save global so you have to set them manually on everyone (questguru comes to mind :() |
| 23:13.29 | JunkHead- | I keep getting errors that an addon failed due to blizzard default ui or something |
| 23:13.37 | JunkHead- | happenes everytime i open and close my map |
| 23:13.42 | Amarande | JunkHead-: you don't have bugsack installed? |
| 23:13.47 | JunkHead- | nope. |
| 23:14.06 | Amarande | that'll tell you what addon the UI THINKS is at fault, anyway |
| 23:14.13 | JunkHead- | ill try that |
| 23:14.13 | Amarande | you've probably been bitten by the parental controls bug :| |
| 23:14.22 | Ward | JunkHead-, I had that |
| 23:14.26 | Ward | with multiple addons |
| 23:14.29 | Ward | it´s fucking annoying |
| 23:14.31 | JunkHead- | yeah |
| 23:14.32 | Ward | recount, auctionator |
| 23:14.37 | JunkHead- | sometimes it says chatter failed |
| 23:14.41 | JunkHead- | sometimes auctionator |
| 23:14.42 | Amarande | Ward: yeah almost any addon can have it happen |
| 23:14.48 | Amarande | or cause another addon to have it happen |
| 23:15.07 | Amarande | like lots of times it'll be Shadowed Unit Frames claiming to be at fault, when really it was just tainted by some other addon (which I usually fail utterly at tracking down) |
| 23:16.10 | Amarande | but yeah, that parental controls bug is a real pain in the arse, and hit pretty much broad spectrum |
| 23:16.33 | Amarande | apparently they took a function that didn't used to be protected, still *isn't protected IN AND OF ITSELF*, and slapped a protected function right in the middle of it |
| 23:16.52 | Amarande | so every time an addon uses it, you get stuck with the stupid "addon can't do that" popup |
| 23:17.07 | Amarande | (and usually nothing else BUT the popup, like I don't think I've ever seen it actually cause anything to fail to work) |
| 23:17.54 | Amarande | Basically, technically, it's a case of A() (common function used by all kinds of addons, not protected) and B() (protected function basically never used prior) existing |
| 23:18.01 | Amarande | and then blizzard decided it'd be a fine idea to have A() call B() :) |
| 23:21.10 | *** part/#wowhead Mori-neko (~Mori-neko@solarlottery.net) |
| 23:24.28 | Torhal | Actually, an AddOn doesn't even have to use it; merely doing something to a frame that uses it will cause the issue. |
| 23:24.35 | Torhal | ...and there are 30 frames which use it. |
| 23:24.38 | Torhal | So...yay? |
| 23:30.43 | Amarande | Torhal: yeah that's probably how bugsack ends up blaming the wrong addon every now and then |
| 23:30.52 | Amarande | like fishing buddy. fishing buddy doesn't even HAVE a frame normally, does it? |
| 23:31.33 | Amarande | but yeah, the only time I've ever seen it do anything worse than the warning popup is every now and then questguru stops letting me click quest items from the log & then I have to reloadui to fix that |
