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| 01:17.14 | kullervo | that was a good Scarlet Monastery run... http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2013-11-04_03-16-55.png |
| 01:17.53 | Lugburz | wow you suck dude |
| 01:17.56 | Lugburz | I am so sorry |
| 01:18.13 | Lugburz | p good |
| 01:19.29 | Amarande | man, I just headdesked there |
| 01:19.36 | Amarande | I was about to ask how that shadow priest did 504k :) |
| 01:19.51 | Lugburz | lol |
| 01:19.54 | Lugburz | too much wow bro |
| 01:19.57 | Lugburz | lay off of it |
| 01:20.40 | Lugburz | just watched my friend make some person in his guild rage gquit |
| 01:20.43 | Lugburz | so good |
| 01:28.55 | kullervo | Lugburz: Lugburz but I was the taank :( |
| 01:29.05 | Lugburz | LOL |
| 01:29.07 | kullervo | (forgot righteous fury and didn't notice until 2nd boss because people's dps was so low |
| 01:29.09 | Lugburz | that is disappointing |
| 01:29.12 | Lugburz | I am so sorry |
| 01:29.18 | Lugburz | please play wow with better people :p |
| 01:29.50 | Amarande | Lugburz: gear scaling will do that |
| 01:30.09 | Amarande | and, actually, I *think* I remember reading that LFD is actually designed to match uber-geared folks with poorer-geared ones |
| 01:30.16 | Lugburz | really? |
| 01:30.21 | Lugburz | that is kind of strange to be honest |
| 01:30.22 | Lugburz | but ok |
| 01:31.17 | Amarande | at least that's what seems to be prevailing thought |
| 01:31.31 | Amarande | that it tries to balance group strength, instead of putting all the super geared folks together and throwing the fresher 90's to the wolves |
| 01:31.54 | Amarande | it's hard to tell what goes on on the queue backend anyway :S |
| 01:35.15 | kullervo | Lugburz: must earn VP somehow and this is, sadly, fastest |
| 01:35.17 | kullervo | even with pugs |
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| 19:40.05 | Dennls | wat |
| 19:40.10 | Dennls | why does garrosh go taunt immune at times in p2 |
| 19:48.38 | Sephiroth | Dennls: because you touch yourself at night. |
| 19:48.39 | Sephiroth | runs. |
| 19:48.45 | Dennls | :( |
| 19:50.47 | Amarande | Dennls: because pretty much since LFR came out, normal + have been generally pretty sadistic |
| 19:50.57 | Amarande | :) |
| 19:51.05 | Dennls | our paladin just died because he got instagibbed at 6 stacks |
| 19:52.33 | Jammer | Dennls: bosses go taunt immune if you taunt them too often |
| 19:52.48 | Dennls | really? 0.0 |
| 19:53.04 | Jammer | yep, they don't want you to avoid melee hitting by just spamming taunt between 2 tanks or something |
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| 19:54.00 | Dennls | ah that explains |
| 19:54.23 | Jammer | in garrosh you can for example leave on the tank if swirling thing coming |
| 19:54.26 | Jammer | it'll reset stacks anyway |
| 20:17.09 | Dennls | we seem to be wiping on phase 2 constantly lol |
| 20:17.22 | Dennls | out of our 41 pulls 20 of them ended in phase 2 |
| 20:19.17 | Amarande | hm, does Garrosh have a "people screw it up all the time" mechanic like how Lich King had people failing at defile? |
| 20:21.05 | Dennls | getting hit by the iron star |
| 20:21.09 | Dennls | standing in the descerate |
| 20:21.16 | Dennls | descecrate* |
| 20:21.20 | Dennls | not interrupting MC's |
| 20:21.24 | Dennls | everything |
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| 20:27.15 | Amarande | wonder if there's any of those you can get screwed over by even as a non-fail :) |
| 20:27.20 | Amarande | like that one time I got screwed over by defile :P |
| 20:28.49 | Dennls | we've had people make the most stupid mistakes |
| 20:29.04 | Dennls | like |
| 20:29.11 | Dennls | we decided to keep the weapons on the edges |
| 20:29.24 | Dennls | so this warlock starts yelling for people to hug the wall |
| 20:29.36 | Dennls | and some idiot decides it would be a good idea to stand in the fire alongside it |
| 20:32.47 | Amarande | heh |
| 20:32.51 | Amarande | hopefully he can see the fire, though |
| 20:33.09 | Amarande | does WoW still have issues where highish graphics settings are mandatory to raid otherwise you don't see things like fire? |
| 20:33.14 | Amarande | I remember hearing it used to |
| 20:35.20 | Jammer | I play on fair settings and it's fine at least |
| 20:35.33 | Jammer | I do remember low not showing something |
| 20:35.57 | Jammer | and projected textures needed to be enabled |
| 20:36.03 | Jammer | that also caused some stuff not show up |
| 20:40.31 | Dennls | èverything works on Ultra |
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| 20:43.17 | Dennls | Combat against 10 Player - Garrosh Hellscream (55%) ended after 7 minutes and 45 seconds. You have 44 total wipes on this difficulty. |
| 20:43.18 | Dennls | aaaaaa |
| 20:44.00 | Amarande | ... ow exploding deer |
| 20:46.51 | Dennls | aaaand 45 |
| 20:48.50 | kinseysix | ow |
| 20:48.57 | kinseysix | how much do 45 wipes cost in repairs |
| 20:49.07 | Dennls | `dont know dont care guild repairs \o/ |
| 20:49.17 | Dennls | probably a lot |
| 20:50.44 | kinseysix | have you been doing 2/2/6 or 2/3/5 or both? |
| 20:50.49 | Dennls | we tried both |
| 20:50.54 | Dennls | but most progress was made on 2/2/6 |
| 20:51.11 | Dennls | 2/3/5 tanks got smacked in p1 |
| 20:51.18 | Dennls | 2/2/6 group gets smacked in p2 spinny corruption |
| 20:51.26 | kinseysix | right |
| 20:55.00 | Dennls | I dont think we've made any progress since we reached phase 2 |
| 20:59.28 | kullervo | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3079038611 |
| 20:59.31 | kullervo | I am okay with this |
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| 21:11.24 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3079065364 i hate you kullervo :( |
| 21:11.31 | Mr_Rabies | this is actually a really good result compared to normal |
| 21:12.19 | kullervo | what are you using? |
| 21:12.25 | kd3 | screw. you. http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3079069543 |
| 21:13.31 | kd3 | wow, rabies. you still show up as bellsouth? |
| 21:13.38 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 21:14.13 | Mr_Rabies | i'm paying $48/mo for 6 Mbit/ 512 kbit DSL through ATT, kullervo |
| 21:14.16 | Dennls | does garrosh heal when he goes into transition? |
| 21:14.59 | kd3 | I'm paying about the same for 1.5/128 |
| 21:15.28 | kullervo | Mr_Rabies: I'm paying 40€ a month for a 250/50 Mbps Fiber |
| 21:15.50 | kullervo | Dennls: he heals when switching form |
| 21:16.19 | Mr_Rabies | i hate you, kullervo :( |
| 21:16.22 | kullervo | like for instance in p1, if you use lust and his health goes to 0 you've wasted quite a bit of dps |
| 21:16.32 | Amarande | hm, do you still need two of a weapon in order to mog both your weapons to it when DWing? |
| 21:16.43 | kullervo | Amarande: uhhh no? |
| 21:16.56 | kullervo | was that ever a requirement |
| 21:17.06 | Amarande | not 100% sure, but I thought you did when mog was new |
| 21:18.16 | kullervo | Mr_Rabies: https://www.dropbox.com/s/o46rn2vca45otp1/speedtest_mobile.txt |
| 21:18.55 | kullervo | if I were in Joensuu I'd get about 14/4 speeds, but it's a bit more crowded in Helsinki |
| 21:19.14 | Mr_Rabies | i don't even get a cell signal out here |
| 21:19.19 | kullervo | hmh that's not loading |
| 21:19.28 | kullervo | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/639462097 |
| 21:19.37 | Mr_Rabies | i have to leech off my shitternet and use a femtocell to get my cell service to work |
| 21:29.05 | Amarande | also dangit I should have picked up an orgrimmar tabard while I was in kalimdor :| |
| 21:29.20 | Amarande | undercity tabard is nice, but since all the flight training costs are based on org ... :( |
| 21:29.43 | Amarande | oh speaking of which did they ever fix that glitch with BC dungeons and city tabard rep, or was that considered WAI? |
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| 21:31.19 | Amarande | specifically, we all know how the pre-70 BC dungeons would stop giving rep with the BC factions after a certain point |
| 21:31.26 | Mr_Rabies | i think they just pretty much said "we don't really want to bother redoing how the bc dungeon rep works" |
| 21:31.39 | Amarande | however, I seem to also remember that when the city tabards were introduced, *they* were being affected too |
| 21:31.49 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i don't think city tabards work in bc dungeons |
| 21:31.54 | Amarande | they do, *but* |
| 21:32.09 | Amarande | when you hit the city rep level that matches the BC rep level where you'd stop getting rep |
| 21:32.16 | Amarande | e.g., say, honoured if the BC dungeon stopped at honoured |
| 21:32.28 | Amarande | the city tabard would fail and start just giving you generic alliance/horde rep |
| 21:32.36 | Amarande | as if you'd maxed it out |
| 21:43.01 | narwhalbot | [Wowhead News] New Site Features: Spell Changelog, Hearthhead Front Page and Streams - http://www.wowhead.com/news=223143/new-site-features-spell-changelog-hearthhead-front-page-and-streams |
| 21:43.18 | Dennls | Combat against 10 Player - Garrosh Hellscream (25%) ended after 9 minutes and 28 seconds. You have 49 total wipes on this difficulty. |
| 21:43.20 | Dennls | :| |
| 21:43.41 | kinseysix | is that the furthest you've gotten? |
| 21:44.35 | kullervo | Dennls: aren't you the guy who was complaining about the current content being too easy? |
| 21:44.45 | Dennls | most of the bosses leading up to him, yes |
| 21:45.02 | Dennls | compared to how much time we spent on every boss on ToT |
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| 21:49.38 | Amarande | kullervo: well, a combination of too-easy and brick-walls isn't all that balanced |
| 21:49.42 | Amarande | reminds me of the first Icewind Dale |
| 21:49.48 | Amarande | It was a fun game, mind you, no doubt about that |
| 21:50.06 | Amarande | *but* in terms of challenge ... most of it was really super-easy except for a tiny handful of encounters, most of them not till close to the end of the game |
| 21:50.27 | Amarande | and *those* encounters, well many of them could be quite OMGHARD |
| 21:55.53 | Jammer | quite fine for the last boss to be a lot challenging than rest of the content |
| 21:56.04 | Jammer | especially when it's end of the expansion boss |
| 21:56.22 | kullervo | but the thing is, Garrosh isn't even hard |
| 21:56.36 | kullervo | the mechanics are very much things people have seen before |
| 21:56.46 | kullervo | some even in the same raid |
| 21:56.50 | Jammer | has there been mc like that? |
| 21:57.01 | kullervo | yeah, Cho'Gall comes to mind |
| 21:57.10 | kullervo | and the best way to counter that is exactly the same - stack in melee |
| 21:57.37 | Jammer | oh... does blood elf silence work on mc targets again? |
| 21:57.43 | Jammer | fucking op horde -_- |
| 21:57.59 | kullervo | the aoe interrupt doesn't work on offtargets a lot of the time |
| 21:58.15 | kullervo | but the reason you'd stack in melee is that EVERYONE can cleave so it's instantly cleared |
| 21:58.27 | kullervo | especially the tanks, GG when they hit for half your health with one global |
| 21:58.49 | Dennls | kinseysix: yes that's the furthest |
| 21:59.02 | kullervo | Dennls: btw, 30%... of which phase? |
| 21:59.14 | Dennls | phase 2 |
| 21:59.22 | kullervo | that's pretty bad |
| 21:59.30 | Dennls | it's our 3rd night |
| 22:00.00 | Dennls | that attempt would have gone further if the RL didnt make a silly mistake |
| 22:00.06 | kullervo | p2 isn't even considerably harder than p1... I'd even call it easier since there are no engineers |
| 22:00.09 | Dennls | the adds were about to spawn from his spinny corruption |
| 22:00.18 | Dennls | and he starts yelling for people to get the fuck away from eachother |
| 22:00.24 | Dennls | wich resulted in everyone running out of healing range |
| 22:00.25 | kullervo | Dennls: our raid leader once called the safe spot DIRECTLY under a breath at Heroic Malkorok |
| 22:00.29 | kullervo | yeah, that caused a wipe |
| 22:00.34 | Dennls | lol |
| 22:00.40 | Dennls | luckily we use the malkorok helper addon =P |
| 22:00.49 | kullervo | the fuck is that? |
| 22:00.59 | Dennls | a pizzaslice addon |
| 22:01.03 | Dennls | that shows you where the safezones are |
| 22:01.09 | kullervo | like Sha of Fear helper? |
| 22:01.11 | Dennls | yeah |
| 22:01.13 | Dennls | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/malkorok-helper |
| 22:01.21 | kullervo | ssh don't ruin my fun |
| 22:01.32 | kullervo | I'm waiting for the addon list to get downloaded by my curse client |
| 22:01.47 | kullervo | must be the most inefficient way ever, sending the WHOLE database at once like that |
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| 22:08.24 | Amarande | aw, rats, the dev team thought of that one :( |
| 22:08.37 | Amarande | for a moment I was hopeful that if you got that one quest in Hillsbrad you could buy the Alliance AV items |
| 22:08.54 | Amarande | but no, they don't show up on the vendor even though you can talk to him and even sell/repair items with him heh |
| 22:08.58 | kinseysix | which quest is that? |
| 22:09.12 | Amarande | "Deception and Trickery" |
| 22:09.17 | Amarande | the one where you have the ghost that looks like Melisara with you |
| 22:09.30 | Amarande | and she's got you disguised as a human |
| 22:10.44 | Amarande | an interesting design, I guess it's so you can do this bit in one piece heh |
| 22:11.01 | Amarande | (since you DO have to pass right by the Alliance AV NPCs, and a 58 elite will make short work of you :P) |
| 22:17.37 | b4k4^^ | Garrosh is down, after 100 wipes (or was it 99?), can start on heroic progression now |
| 22:18.01 | b4k4^^ | tbh everything upto Garrosh has been on farm for a while |
| 22:18.21 | b4k4^^ | I wish I had been in this night's team :P |
| 22:19.39 | Amarande | guild bank broke now? :) |
| 22:22.39 | b4k4^^ | I doubt it |
| 22:22.47 | b4k4^^ | last I checked we had like 150k |
| 22:23.18 | b4k4^^ | could make a crapload by selling spirits probably |
| 22:23.53 | b4k4^^ | half the normal gear has been DE'd for a while |
| 22:24.11 | Amarande | speaking of selling ... they should make some way for people to sell justice, perhaps also valor |
| 22:24.11 | b4k4^^ | I'm not even in core and have 560 ilvl |
| 22:24.34 | Amarande | it would probably cut queue times for heroics some more, since I'm sure there's plenty of people who would buy |
| 22:24.39 | Amarande | if nothing else to be able to buy looms |
| 22:24.51 | kullervo | Amarande: you can sell JP just fine |
| 22:24.52 | b4k4^^ | I still need a few mail looms but after that I can't use jp |
| 22:25.03 | kullervo | I sell dust or buy lvl 70 honor weapons |
| 22:25.07 | Amarande | b4k4: old school gems |
| 22:25.08 | b4k4^^ | except maybe buy shards |
| 22:25.17 | Amarande | buy the ... king's amber I think it is? from the wrath vendor |
| 22:25.20 | Amarande | engineers use those for jeeves |
| 22:25.24 | b4k4^^ | I *have* old school gems |
| 22:25.35 | b4k4^^ | slowly collecting all cuts on my priest too |
| 22:26.04 | b4k4^^ | and I have an xmute alchy |
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| 22:26.42 | b4k4^^ | what I really could use would be a load of titanium I could prospectand use the dust to buy cuts |
| 22:26.55 | b4k4^^ | so efficient |
| 22:27.26 | b4k4^^ | hate the truegold xmute |
| 22:27.43 | b4k4^^ | shares cd with living steel and requires volatiles |
| 22:27.45 | Amarande | hm, did they take away the purpose of alterac mountains altogether? |
| 22:28.07 | b4k4^^ | we'll se when WV rolls around? |
| 22:28.10 | Mr_Rabies | they're used by horde quests, i imagine |
| 22:28.12 | b4k4^^ | ref Greench |
| 22:28.15 | Amarande | there's apparently a horde fp in Strahnbrad, but I just finished the "blow up the alliance on the fingers" quest and there seems to be no more for Hillsbrad now except the group boss quests |
| 22:28.26 | Amarande | nothing to even send you up there |
| 22:28.28 | b4k4^^ | oo |
| 22:28.33 | b4k4^^ | that was a fun quest |
| 22:28.34 | Amarande | and I've already got the zone achievement which suggests this may be it :S |
| 22:28.39 | Mr_Rabies | weird |
| 22:28.57 | b4k4^^ | (even as an ally player) |
| 22:29.14 | Amarande | so I'm wondering now if you even go to Strahnbrad at all in quest progression |
| 22:29.24 | Amarande | there also doesn't seem to be any yellow ! that way either even though I have loremaster addon installed |
| 22:29.26 | b4k4^^ | then again Alliance has that edridge-wrecking chain... |
| 22:29.31 | b4k4^^ | *Redridge |
| 22:29.43 | Amarande | b4k4: you mean the one that's buggy as all hell :( |
| 22:29.51 | b4k4^^ | it is? |
| 22:29.52 | Amarande | I had to wait till like, 25 to get that chain finished |
| 22:30.07 | b4k4^^ | I've done it around 20-ish typically |
| 22:30.13 | b4k4^^ | maybe they broke it |
| 22:30.28 | Amarande | yeah, the distraction item seems to be glitchy since MoP, apparently due to an exploit fix for druids abusing explosive mushrooms in arena |
| 22:30.36 | Amarande | now you get "no path available" half the time |
| 22:30.37 | b4k4^^ | haven't done it this side of MoP |
| 22:30.44 | Amarande | so you pretty much have to be able to take on at least one or two of the elites |
| 22:31.02 | Amarande | and those things hit like effing trucks, like seriously, Mor'Ladim in Duskwood is wimpier |
| 22:31.04 | b4k4^^ | *cough* |
| 22:31.29 | b4k4^^ | (I've had levelcapped toons for a while, so...) |
| 22:31.37 | b4k4^^ | (yay looms and crafts) |
| 22:32.38 | Amarande | heh, atm this is the first time I've done the low level horde quests since cata came out |
| 22:32.53 | Amarande | and I STILL haven't even tried a goblin yet |
| 22:33.10 | b4k4^^ | I did, an enh shammy |
| 22:33.46 | b4k4^^ | I want a starter stash of gold and bags, and allsince I mostly play ally... |
| 22:35.19 | kullervo | b4k4^^: I've actually NEVER had to start a new toon without getting bags and some starter stuff |
| 22:36.10 | b4k4^^ | lucky you |
| 22:36.36 | b4k4^^ | it's a lot easier after the first levelcapped one |
| 22:45.42 | kullervo | wooot |
| 22:45.53 | kullervo | Hexxos down on the first attempt as mistweaver monk :D |
| 22:46.02 | kullervo | Didn't play Super Hexagon for nothing on the way home |
| 22:46.32 | Jammer | you just felt like doing it as mistweaver? O_o |
| 22:46.38 | b4k4^^ | :D |
| 22:46.49 | kullervo | yeah, didn't have a dps spec and couldn't be arsed to go to the class trainer |
| 22:47.19 | kullervo | 75% jade lightning 10% chi wave 5% Yu'lon |
| 22:47.47 | Amarande | I read that as "I want a starter stash of gold and bugs" |
| 22:47.48 | kullervo | 5% jab/autoattack/blackoutkick/tiger palm |
| 22:47.53 | Amarande | bugs are easy to come by though, this is an MMO after all :) |
| 22:48.08 | b4k4^^ | :D |
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| 22:48.30 | b4k4^^ | 5% facepalm |
| 22:48.46 | b4k4^^ | Fatality! |
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| 22:56.08 | kullervo | T440 Dual Mode Robot down as healer |
| 22:56.15 | kullervo | that dps check was almost tight |
| 22:59.09 | kullervo | haha ouch almost globaled myself vs the big fire elemental |
| 22:59.26 | kullervo | reflected 100% of my touch of death damage to me, luckily I had fortifying brew active |
| 23:01.11 | Amarande | ouch, that's gotta be a particularly epic way to fail |
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| 23:05.03 | Amarande | that reminds me of Final Fantasy bosses that would be weak to the same element they cast |
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| 23:05.14 | Amarande | how does that one go? people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones? heh |
| 23:06.16 | b4k4^^ | (Revive against Undead <3) |
| 23:07.00 | b4k4^^ | ("hmm, I wonder if this works") |
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