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| 19:28.14 | kullervo | damn, Djones isn't online anywhere I wanted to discuss theorycraft with him |
| 19:44.11 | Lugburz | sorry bro |
| 19:44.15 | Lugburz | you'd think he would be awake |
| 19:44.21 | Lugburz | dude like doesnt sleep at all |
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| 21:58.43 | LordDralnu | Hey all |
| 21:59.56 | LordDralnu | Such a lively bunch. |
| 22:00.38 | b4k4^^ | brains? |
| 22:01.01 | LordDralnu | Zombie? |
| 22:03.23 | LordDralnu | If Zombies like Brains and they eat them... yet the only way to kill a zombie is by destroying it's brain. How in gods name do they spread the "infection" if they eat the brain whuich is needed for the animation of the dead corpse to get up and move around? |
| 22:04.01 | LordDralnu | *Which *re-animation rather' |
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| 22:05.48 | b4k4^^ | I'm not sure the brain is needed really |
| 22:05.53 | LordDralnu | Welcone |
| 22:06.00 | b4k4^^ | at least not all of it |
| 22:06.48 | b4k4^^ | you could eat the higher functions and the victim would still be able to walk^Wshamble and eat |
| 22:08.01 | LordDralnu | That is true, yet if you think about it the zombies actually aren't all that smart since they have no "higher" functions available to them. Wouldn't they just eat all of the brain? |
| 22:08.25 | LordDralnu | Zombies are always a good ice breaker ^_^ lmao |
| 22:12.37 | LordDralnu | My wife is going to be playing WOW soon... Amazing since she has alwaysed called me a dork and embaresed to know her husband playes video games.She wants to start a demo warlock... I do not kn ow locks so I was wondering if it would actually be a good idea for her to start one. Would it be too complex for a new player? |
| 22:14.47 | Amarande | Probably not all that hard. It's basically the dark magicky version of hunter, and hunter is also a pretty easy class |
| 22:15.08 | Amarande | At least when you're leveling ... she'll want to read up on what to do at 90, of course, especially since the classes that are easier to play tend to be played by a lot of not so good players so you have to prove yourself more |
| 22:17.09 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_102713_011702.jpg |
| 22:17.11 | kullervo | we broke the raid |
| 22:17.13 | b4k4^^ | destro is much easier tbh |
| 22:17.22 | kullervo | notice anything odd |
| 22:18.03 | b4k4^^ | errrm |
| 22:18.10 | b4k4^^ | negative enemies :D |
| 22:18.43 | Eraclito | did anyone here recently grind for hyacinth macaw? |
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| 22:19.29 | LordDralnu | I was trying to explain to her playing toons that i know would be better on both of our stress levels but didn't want to push it since it could easily psh her away from playing it. That do not want. As for her playing at 90 and up I will be the one doing the research etc so she shuld be allright I am just worried about her playing the toon. I figure with some help from others and finding the right guild she should be ok. |
| 22:29.52 | kullervo | b4k4^^: yeah it seems it takes like 5 minutes for every wave to spawn |
| 22:31.36 | b4k4^^ | :P |
| 22:32.19 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_102713_013159.jpg |
| 22:32.43 | b4k4^^ | LordDralnu: I did level my lock as demo to 90, but... |
| 22:33.03 | b4k4^^ | well, there's the demo specific pet going for it at least |
| 22:33.55 | b4k4^^ | kullervo: wtf did you do? :D |
| 22:34.22 | kullervo | no idea |
| 22:35.33 | kullervo | killed mobs as they spawned |
| 22:35.39 | kullervo | and I think we killed some we weren't supposed to |
| 22:36.06 | Amarande | b4k4: yeah that's one thing about demo that's kind of watered down since mop |
| 22:36.26 | Amarande | especially once you hit 75, since then you can just take supremacy and have somewhat better than base demons without having to be demo |
| 22:37.05 | b4k4^^ | mmh |
| 22:39.02 | Amarande | blizz seems to be getting better with balance in some cases and horrible in others, though |
| 22:39.13 | Amarande | like, say, monks ... with windwalker they always say that dual wield is better |
| 22:39.22 | Amarande | which apparently it is, but the difference is too small to matter because higher ilvl is always better |
| 22:39.42 | Amarande | (and really, who's lucky enough with weapon drops as to be able to get two or three suitable ones before the next tier, LOL) |
| 22:40.11 | Amarande | wouldn't be surprised if 2H is actually used a large percentage of the time because of that |
| 22:40.27 | Amarande | start tier, get a 2H. that's a higher ilvl, so even if you did manage to dual wield last tier, it's an upgrade |
| 22:40.56 | Amarande | by the time you manage to find the two one-handers you need to replace them and win the rolls, oh hey next tier's out :) |
| 22:41.21 | Amarande | OTOH, you have nightmares like Arms vs. Fury Warriors |
| 22:43.26 | Amarande | I suppose it's possible that they meant for arms to suck this expansion but I can't think of any rational reason why so I'm guessing they just didn't think out the math so well :) |
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| 22:46.43 | Amarande | well, there's maybe one reason why but I'm actually not sure Blizz has ever resorted to gimping a spec for that one, much to the irritation of many another player LOL |
| 22:49.32 | Amarande | namely "there are too many specs competing for _____, let's make one of them not be as good as other choices for its class to provide relief" |
| 22:49.42 | b4k4^^ | :P |
| 22:50.18 | b4k4^^ | (spriests are fun, all cloth is usable) |
| 22:50.35 | Dennis2 | im considering changing from crit build to effective health on my BM since we are starting heroic progression soon but I feel like mrrobot's recommendations arent the best |
| 22:50.37 | b4k4^^ | (but they aren't a top dps spec afaik) |
| 22:50.53 | Dennis2 | sacrificing 11.15% crit for 3% mastery and 7165 stamina? |
| 22:51.00 | Dennis2 | wouldnt it be better to get more mastery than to stack a ton of stamina |
| 22:51.08 | Dennis2 | all the gems and enchants are stamina-based aswell |
| 22:51.28 | b4k4^^ | some cases are like that |
| 22:51.56 | b4k4^^ | Mr. Robot also apparently tells healers to stack spirit even if they have no mana issues |
| 22:52.09 | Dennis2 | yeah I wonder really |
| 22:52.21 | Amarande | but yeah arms at least seems to mostly be a victim of scaling since the differences were not so marked at the beginning of mists |
| 22:52.23 | Dennis2 | shame I dont know any good brewmasters :( |
| 22:52.44 | Amarande | although I always thought it was said that blizz pretty much plans out the whole tier balance of an expansion in advance |
| 22:53.15 | kullervo | b4k4^^: mr robot uses some really stupid stat defaults |
| 22:54.31 | Dennis2 | im reluctant to start stacking stamina |
| 22:54.47 | Dennis2 | since that doesnt really feel like it makes much sense lol |
| 22:58.04 | kullervo | it makes sense if you need more healing buffer |
| 22:58.07 | kullervo | which usually doesn't happen |
| 22:59.39 | Dennis2 | I figured I could use the mastery but appearently sacrificing 12% crit means only 3% more mastery |
| 23:00.48 | kullervo | monk? |
| 23:01.18 | Dennis2 | yup |
| 23:01.23 | Dennis2 | brewmaster |
| 23:01.27 | kullervo | yeah don't stack stamina, ever |
| 23:01.39 | kullervo | you could go with a full mastery build once you get the 4-set |
| 23:02.01 | Dennis2 | 3/5 atm |
| 23:02.20 | kullervo | don't get 5/5, usually one piece sucks compared to an offset item |
| 23:03.20 | Dennis2 | yeah I know |
| 23:03.23 | Dennis2 | I have warforged shoulders already |
| 23:03.35 | kullervo | not like that |
| 23:03.40 | Dennis2 | but we usually 1-tank Thok and so I hardly get any chance to fight him on my tank :p |
| 23:03.44 | kullervo | but like for paladins, the pants have vastly inferior stats on them |
| 23:03.55 | kullervo | I recall they have avoidance whereas the offset alternative has haste |
| 23:04.12 | kullervo | wtf 1-tank thok |
| 23:04.19 | kullervo | do you run flex or someshit |
| 23:04.38 | Dennis2 | normal |
| 23:04.47 | Dennis2 | why not 1-tank? |
| 23:04.58 | kullervo | because you get so many stacks you can't have long roar phases |
| 23:05.01 | Dennis2 | we have a paladin that has no problem solotanking it |
| 23:05.26 | kullervo | I'm a paladin too and wouldn't solo tank it because I know I'd get gibbed in the frost phase |
| 23:05.31 | Dennis2 | doesnt happen for us |
| 23:05.48 | kullervo | apparently your roar phases don't last long enough for the tank to reach 8 stacks, then |
| 23:06.22 | Dennis2 | nope but that isnt an issue really |
| 23:07.08 | kullervo | different strategies |
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| 23:07.20 | kullervo | also, do you have to sit the boss because your guild opts to solo tank? |
| 23:07.24 | kullervo | because that's just stupid |
| 23:07.29 | Dennis2 | I dont have to |
| 23:07.33 | Dennis2 | on our progression I offered to sit out |
| 23:07.38 | Dennis2 | to see if that would work |
| 23:07.46 | Dennis2 | one of our friends in another guild had got him solotanked |
| 23:07.58 | Dennis2 | so we did 1/4/5 for a few pulls and got him on 7% |
| 23:08.05 | Dennis2 | then the next night we decided to go with 1/3/6 |
| 23:08.36 | kullervo | oh also we 2-heal everything except a couple heroics |
| 23:08.40 | Dennis2 | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-kmyx52gum7uz80qq/dashboard/?s=114&e=563 |
| 23:08.46 | Dennis2 | on our kill I went on my hunter |
| 23:08.58 | kullervo | so that might be why you need that extra dps and our tanks don't do such stupid things |
| 23:11.15 | Amarande | kullervo: tanks have to sit out solo tank fights? that's what your dps offspec is for :) |
| 23:11.55 | Dennis2 | I have a healing offspec but also a decently geared hunter =p |
| 23:12.09 | Dennis2 | and hunters are nice on thok |
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| 23:13.40 | LordDralnu | Thanks for the advice guys. My computer froze. |
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| 23:59.12 | Dennis2 | well this is an LFR first |
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| 23:59.43 | Dennis2 | on megeara |
| 23:59.49 | Dennis2 | the DPS are killing both heads |
| 23:59.52 | Dennis2 | simultaneously |
