IRC log for #wowhead on 20131025

00:13.04b4k4^^I was going to look something up but saw the RAF kittehs and went "ooshiny"
00:13.36Eraclitothe jade & zipao tigers you mean?
00:13.40b4k4^^yeah
00:13.51fewynthey were formerly asia pets
00:13.58fewynfrom certain events/promos
00:13.58b4k4^^so what if they're probably reskinned sapphire cubs
00:14.04fewynthey aren't
00:14.09b4k4^^because KITTEHS!
00:14.11fewynthe pigs and cats have been in the game for years
00:14.14fewynlike since
00:14.19fewyntbc/vanilla years
00:14.30b4k4^^o.O
00:14.35fewynthey were china only
00:14.43fewynpart of promos out there
00:15.06fewynhttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=45174#comments
00:15.15kullervohttp://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_102513_030757.jpg
00:15.15fewynhttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=45175#comments
00:15.19kullervosup with my TPS
00:15.28kullervoyeah I'm the tank BUT I'm also in haeler spec
00:15.32fewynhttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=66520#comments
00:17.31Eraclitoi don't think i have more friends to invite to WoW
00:18.20Eraclitoi did it five times. the first, it was before the zhevra was implemented. the second, the dude missclicked the link in the mail and registered himself without linking his account to mine. i contacted blizzard but "we can't help you"
00:18.37Eraclitothe third, the guy just played the trial
00:18.53Eraclitothe fourth i got the rocket and the fifth i got the ... weird flying panther transformation
00:23.46kullervoEraclito: I've found rewards from those systems I didn't know I ever did anything for
00:24.02kullervostill got one lvl 80 ding available
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00:42.40fewyni'll invite myself Eraclito =p
00:47.04Eraclitoit'll be expensive :P
00:47.40Eraclitothe local gamestop sells base WoW for 5 euros, but the two months are still full priced
00:48.10Amarandeyeah, region only minipets
00:48.14AmarandeYOU CANNOT COMPLETE YOUR POKEDEX
00:48.19Amarandeheh
00:49.01Amarandeat some point I actually need to continue with pokemon, I got to the first gym in black and then took a break and keep forgetting to go back
00:50.03fewynwatching noxy draw my blizzcon badge is fun http://www.twitch.tv/noxychu
00:51.42Eraclitomusic is good too
00:51.56Eraclito(which song is playing?)
00:52.31fewynno idea
00:57.34Eraclitothe current one seems it's a Dragonforce one, i guess the previous one too
01:06.40kullervowtf you get like 1k gold from collecting the pandaria pumpkins
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01:14.54Eraclitoi really should do that on all my characters
01:15.08Eraclitoalso the old expansions ones
01:35.37AmarandeI didn't even realise it was hallow's end when I logged on wow the other day
01:35.42Amarandeuntil next thing I heard HH's spiel
01:39.33kullervoEraclito: I really CBA, I loot that much in a day without doing anything specific
01:39.44kullervoflying around sucks if you don't do it 1) with guildies 2) with booze
01:56.31Amarandeyeah, now I'm realising what I'm missing from the last time I played WoW
01:56.34AmarandeI'm out of liquor
01:56.34Amarande:|
01:56.58AmarandeI should remedy that situation :|
01:57.11Amarandetomorrow or saturday perhaps, since they don't sell liquor in this state after 9pm
02:00.53kullervoI decided soon after my birthday that I wouldn't drink for the rest of this year
02:01.26kullervothis may have something to do with the copious amounts I was convinced to have to celebrate the event
02:09.48Amarandemostly I haven't been drinking much in a while because it wasn't in the budget
02:10.11Amarandeactually I still will probably have to amex it if I buy anything good, since I need most of my next four paychecks to pay off the amex from *this* billing period, thanks to vacation heh
02:10.37kullervoyeah that too. Just spent like $2k on hardware
02:12.53kullervoeh my GPU fan is making an annoying whiny noise when I'm running 3dmark
02:13.02kullervowell I'm HOPING for it to be the fan, anyway.
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02:13.58Amarande... speaking of credit cards, also let's pay my mastercard bill before I end up with another late payment for the same reason as the one and only time I ever paid it late a couple years ago :P
02:14.42Amarandeman, that has got to be the single lamest reason to pay a credit card bill late, that time :P
02:14.59AmarandeI even had plenty of money on hand at the time too
02:15.00Amarandeguess what I did
02:15.04kullervoforgot
02:15.08Amarandeyup heh
02:15.18Amarandetwo days after the due date I'm like "oh shit did I pay that bill this month" :|
02:15.36Amarandefunny thing is that meanwhile I tend to think about the amex bill pretty religiously
02:15.50Amarandemaybe it's because I actually *use* my amex frequently and barely ever charge anything on the mc
02:17.56Amarandekullervo: you probably have a crappy GPU fan
02:18.03Amarandemaybe the equivalent of amd bulldozer cpu fans :)
02:18.26Amarandehah there's apparently jokes that bulldozer was called that because typically the stock fan will sound like one
02:19.50kullervoAmarande: no it's actually a fairly high quality one
02:20.25kullervoDCU2
02:23.13AmarandeASUS 7850?
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02:24.10AmarandeI wish I had 2k to drop on hardware, I keep looking at newegg at upgrades
02:24.28Amarandethough I'm not sure I would even manage to spend that much unless maybe I did something really crazy like get a titan or something
02:24.37kullervono, GTX 780 OC edition
02:24.47Amarandemostly I'm looking at a haswell, mobo for it, and ssd
02:31.03kullervoAmarande: http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/txt/Azrael.htm
02:31.25kullervoidk where it got that "media center edition" though, this is W7Pro x64
02:31.37Amarandeoh no wonder you dropped 2k
02:31.41kullervoprobably because I have an old version, some o this stuff
02:31.43Amarandedid you buy four 780's?
02:31.46kullervohaha no
02:32.10kullervoalso remember dollar is really low value right now
02:32.37AmarandeI think it might call it media center edition on any machine that has Media Center installed
02:32.42Amarandeand if I remember right win7 came with it standard
02:33.44AmarandeI probably won't be getting a K haswell myself, though
02:33.56AmarandeI never OC, and if I don't OC I can save a bunch of money on the mobo by getting H87
02:34.02Amarandebecause Z87 is really only worth it if you *do* OC
02:34.33kullervoyou should consider the server haswells
02:34.54kullervocan't remember the model name but this one elite geek recommended those if I wasn't planning to OC or anything
02:35.14kullervothey have better cooling because the cover is soldered on instead of having a stupidly bad thermal paste
02:35.39Amarandeapparently z87's only advantages over h87 are basically oc and the ability to use three video cards
02:35.50Amarandebecause, yanno, people totally want to use tri-sli with 20 pcie lanes :p
02:36.34Amarande"hey, a Porsche runs fast, let's have three Porsches on a two-lane country road!"
02:36.46kullervodoes H have the same parts though?
02:37.06kullervolike intel LAN adapter and so on
02:37.36kullervoyou probably don't care about the power components but they have huge differences as well
02:37.59kullervooh also, I just ordered a 250/50Mbps connection
02:38.08kullervothis better be good
02:39.06Amarandeif I remember the article I read, H *supports* the same parts
02:39.09kullervoguess how much it costs
02:39.26Amarandea lot of mobo manufacturers apparently cut back on things like USB and SATA ports on the H boards to try to push more people to buy the Z, though
02:39.48Amarandebut in terms of the base tech the Z doesn't really have much of anything beyond OC and tri-SLI
02:40.20Amarandekullervo: one forsaken child's soul, delivered to ISP headquarters in a faraday cage to prevent any energy escape?
02:40.34kullervo40e/month
02:40.37Amarandewow
02:40.44kullervosome years ago you could get like.. 10/1 line with that
02:40.46AmarandeI wish we had stuff like that in the US (outside of fios cities anyway)
02:41.00Amarandethink the most we can usually get in the states is 100/something
02:41.10Amarandewell unless you pay for an enterprise link anyway
02:41.25Amarandebut that really pretty much DOES charge in forsaken child's souls, or maybe stolen kidneys
02:42.07kullervowtf 3dmark costs like 25€?
02:42.09Amarandebut then that's basically one of the rules of the world, with enough gold you can do more or less anything
02:42.16Amarandeheh I just had a reaction like that myself
02:42.22Amarande"wtf AIDA64 costs 40 bucks?"
02:47.25kullervoif I had a more powerful PSU or if I were more adventurous and willing to install 2 PSUs at once, I'd try to add the old 460 in the mix JUST as a physX accelerator
02:48.20kullervohttp://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1474457?
02:48.22kullervowell, fuck
02:48.33kullervoa Titan would get 300 more points
02:48.41kullervoapparently mine isn't a High End Gaming PC because of that
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03:16.56Amarandeheh, I wonder if I'm even a medium end gaming PC with this spec
03:17.03AmarandeI'm still on a Phenom II X6, and this card is an HD 7850 2GB
03:17.21kullervoyou know why I got the 780 instead of something cheaper?
03:17.35Amarandeso you won't have to upgrade again for another couple years?
03:17.37kullervogoing to buy a 4k IPS panel
03:17.42Amarandeah
03:17.52Amarandeyou might need even more than that
03:18.09Amarandesome in ##hardware almost suggest that you practically need SLI Titans to do 4k
03:18.23kullervono wait
03:18.24kullervono
03:18.28AmarandeI'm also wondering if once 4k becomes standard, also gone will be the days of single-card gaming, dual wield will pretty much become the standard
03:18.36kullervo2560xsomething
03:18.52kullervoanyway ridiculous
03:19.01Amarandeand probably also dual wielding cards that will make your power meter spin like vegas slots :p
03:19.09kullervo:D
03:19.31Amarandeheh next thing you know american gamers will keep getting cops visiting them thanks to the video requirements :P
03:19.42Amarandesince they'll look at the power usage pattern and think they're running grow lights or something LOL
03:20.36kullervosome years ago, like. uh. 10 years ago, a tech columnist made a joke about one of the reasons people could use for the new nuclear power plant was the increasing power requirement of gaming graphics cards
03:24.04Amarandekullervo: actually I've sometimes wondered if gaming is partly responsible for the present energy situation :(
03:24.09Amarandeand really home PCs in general
03:24.14Amarandewhether they've become a distinctly two-edged sword because of it
03:24.33kullervonot really
03:24.40Amaranderemember, back in the 70s, even early 80s, what did you have in your room that used electricity
03:24.50kullervoit's irrelevant compared to heavy industry
03:24.51Amarandea light, maybe a clock radio, maybe an A/C unit if it got hot a lot
03:25.06Amarandenow people have computers and TVs and everything guzzling power, certainly
03:25.38Amarandeyeah, it actually partially balances out for many a bedroom too
03:26.02Amarandea lot of lower end computer specs actually have a power draw in the 150W range it seems
03:26.21Amarandeand now a lot of that extra power usage gets made up for by the transition to CFL light bulbs
03:26.33Amarandesince that light has gone from 60-100W to 13-34W
03:29.11kullervohttp://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1474620?
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03:33.49kullervoHAHAHA I GOT AN ACHIEVEMENT FOR THAT
03:36.39Amarandeoh heh I just realised it's available on steam
03:37.16kullervonot a steam one though, which is a shame
03:37.30kullervohttp://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2013-10-25_06-37-19.png
03:43.35Amarandehm I think steam screwed up the hours played stats recently
03:43.50Amarandemy KOTOR and KOTOR 2 hours played have spiked for some reason even though the last played date didn't change
04:08.29kullervowell that's nice
04:08.35kullervothe druid flight form has a speak emote
04:25.50Amarandehm let's see what 3dmark does on my machine
04:25.55Amarandeoh, c'mon, ANOTHER vc redist install?
04:26.07Amarandedammit, why can't there be unified one-time-install libraries for that shit like on linux :(
04:26.34fewynbecause each version is slightly different
04:26.56Amarandeah, I'm guessing .dll must be a lot more exacting than .so when it comes to versions, too
04:27.22Amarandewith .so stuff tends to only break if there's a really major change
04:46.35Amarandeouch that kicked a bit of wind out of my sails
04:46.37Amarandehttp://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1474901?
04:46.47Amarandeapparently my desktop is only slightly better than a gaming laptop :|
04:47.45kullervo:D
04:48.37Amarandethe way the fire strike one was going I was almost thinking it was going to say "YOU HAVE A TABLET"
04:48.38Amarandeheh
04:49.04kullervoI'll try it on my laptop too
04:49.08kullervogot to install first
04:51.02Amarandethe one trouble with 3dmark is ... there's no real way for it to tell you if you're CPU or GPU bound :|
04:51.15kullervobut... there is?
04:51.22kullervoit does cpu tests separately
04:51.35kullervoat least used to, I didn't pay attention this time
04:53.35Amarandelike when I get haswell, am I still going to see things be almost as crappy, I guess I'm wondering heh
05:39.20kullervoAmarande: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1475015?
05:39.50kullervonot sure if this underclocked itself because of heating
05:40.01Amarandeyow.
05:40.22Amarandespeaking of cpus, I'm still wondering now what the AMD A6 and A8 APUs are good for, at all
05:40.56Amarandelike ... if you're building a desktop and planning on using an APU, there is no real excuse not to get the A10, it's cheap enough
05:41.19Amarandeif you're building something like a NAS box or a cheap websurfer terminal, an A4 is good enough
05:41.26Amarandethere seems no point to the others :|
06:09.46Mr_Rabiesprobably some specific HTPC uses
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17:57.01narwhalbot[Wowhead News] BlizzCon 2013 Goody Bag Revealed - http://www.wowhead.com/news=222544/blizzcon-2013-goody-bag-revealed
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