| 00:01.08 | Amarande | I think we used to call your server fail'ganis, in fact |
| 00:01.08 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:01.35 | Amarande | for some reason a lot of folks from there are particularly bad at LFD runs |
| 00:02.00 | Amarande | it was an especially palpable impression with the icc 5-mans |
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| 01:38.01 | narwhalbot | [Wowhead News] Patch 5.4 Hotfixes for October 23rd - http://www.wowhead.com/news=222392/patch-5-4-hotfixes-for-october-23rd |
| 01:48.46 | kullervo | THESE ILLITERATE MORONS |
| 01:48.52 | kullervo | "go to the water wing I'm soloing library" |
| 01:48.54 | kullervo | they pull the first mob |
| 01:48.57 | kullervo | and run to the library |
| 01:49.15 | kullervo | http://smhttp.14409.nexcesscdn.net/806D5E/wordpress-L/images/post-jackiechan.jpg |
| 01:59.24 | Eraclito | and i leveled my 11th character to 90 |
| 01:59.53 | Eraclito | half of them with pet battles from 85-86-87 to the cap |
| 02:00.45 | Amarande | you leveled all the way through panda levels via pet battles? |
| 02:00.51 | Amarande | wow. |
| 02:01.54 | Eraclito | pandaria is pretty cool, but after the fifth time it gets somewhat boring |
| 02:02.19 | Eraclito | anyway it's not that long, a pet battle in dragonblight is slightly less than 1% exp |
| 02:03.06 | Eraclito | about thirty pet battles over there level a pet from 1 to 25 |
| 02:03.38 | Amarande | hmmmmm better to level as windwalker and switch to brewmaster at highish level, or level as brewmaster the entire way ... |
| 02:04.48 | Amarande | or maybe create a windwalker and a prot warrior |
| 02:05.01 | Amarande | since if I do anything but tank on a warrior I'll be tempted to spec arms since I seem to like 2H builds |
| 02:05.04 | Amarande | and apparently arms is sucktastic atm |
| 02:07.27 | fewyn | http://isitblizzconyet.com/ |
| 02:08.13 | fewyn | (i made it all prettier) |
| 02:12.41 | Eraclito | ooh~ |
| 02:19.04 | Amarande | actually is arms really that bad or does it just fail at scaling once you get to raid level gear |
| 02:21.13 | Amarande | meanwhile this reddit thread is amusing me |
| 02:22.12 | Amarande | "never seen a female dwarf rogue" "never seen a female undead monk" :) |
| 02:22.22 | Amarande | I ... actually have one of each of those on different servers LOL |
| 02:23.22 | Eraclito | i hope dwarf females to be prettier after new models |
| 02:23.34 | fewyn | i have a dwarf female shaman |
| 02:23.39 | Eraclito | i don't mean totally differents, just... their faces are weird |
| 02:24.00 | Eraclito | they remind me of my aunt |
| 02:24.31 | Amarande | I'm never quite sure why so many people think dwarf women in wow are uglyish :S |
| 02:24.50 | kullervo | surprisingly, they actually aren't |
| 02:25.20 | Amarande | yeah I actually have two female dwarves on Ysera |
| 02:25.23 | Amarande | a warlock and a rogue |
| 02:25.27 | Amarande | btw |
| 02:25.34 | Amarande | what's the difference between 'full' and 'locked' server status in the list? |
| 02:26.28 | Eraclito | locked should be like "gtfo you can't create a character" |
| 02:27.00 | Eraclito | while full is "gtfo but if you're persistent just be prepared for queues" |
| 02:30.17 | Amarande | hm |
| 02:30.32 | Amarande | Illidan let me create a character even though it said locked, although I had to sit in a queue for a minute or so |
| 02:30.51 | Amarande | the only thing I've ever really seen hard locks apply to is transfers, where too-high pop servers won't accept transfer characters at all |
| 02:31.12 | Eraclito | oh, right |
| 02:31.23 | Amarande | (because, you know, I would totally, say, transfer a draenei to illidan, that would be madness :P) |
| 02:31.35 | Eraclito | i don't know why i was so sure about creating characters too |
| 02:32.33 | Amarande | ahh |
| 02:32.37 | Amarande | apparently locked means it's queued |
| 02:32.45 | Amarande | but then I'm not sure why "full" is a used label |
| 02:32.47 | Eraclito | ( http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xYicALoc5Gc/UmhAuwZQAOI/AAAAAAABks4/uySC8sTtHdo/s1600/2.jpg do want, so much) |
| 02:32.56 | Amarande | if a server's marked as full I seem to be able to get in right away but if it's locked I get queued |
| 02:33.03 | Amarande | but then if it's not queued, how is it full :P |
| 02:33.54 | Amarande | rofl, it just tried to default me to making a gnome |
| 02:33.56 | Amarande | on illidan |
| 02:34.00 | Amarande | like seriously WoW :) |
| 02:34.26 | Amarande | there are probably more people who think Stalin was a good person than who play Alliance on Illidan :P |
| 02:35.03 | Eraclito | i wouldn't understimate people's stupidity on both arguments |
| 02:35.52 | Eraclito | you know in Italy there's a law requiring the Crucifix to stay on the walls of public rooms? like, dunno, classrooms |
| 02:44.51 | kullervo | I'm convinced that skyshards no longer drop |
| 02:45.00 | kullervo | I killed hundreds of shao-tien mogu and got none |
| 02:45.17 | kullervo | although, it's about one per 300 kills so uh. I might not see that mount ever. |
| 02:46.33 | Amarande | kullervo: roll on Turalyon-US, there's usually someone trying to sell an alani kill |
| 02:47.12 | Amarande | horde side |
| 02:50.27 | kullervo | not going to support botters |
| 02:53.33 | Eraclito | i feel so stupid, i didn't do golden lotus dailies because i felt really bored |
| 02:53.42 | Eraclito | and i found two skyshards pretty early in the expansion |
| 02:53.49 | Eraclito | so ... i'm stuck at two |
| 02:55.38 | kullervo | "Looking for 3 dps and a dps for some 5-man farming" |
| 02:58.44 | Lugburz | lol |
| 02:59.27 | kullervo | here's something I'm a bit ashamed of: My healer monk does better dps on trash than my retripala |
| 02:59.50 | kullervo | if I had the 4t16 on my paladin, it'd be a whole different story though |
| 03:00.24 | kullervo | imagine endless divine storms |
| 03:13.38 | Amarande | kullervo: hm, didn't seem botterish ... more like people who have spare shards offering to take you out there and use their shards to wake Alani so you can kill her and get the mount, in exchange for a tidy sum |
| 03:14.47 | Amarande | Eraclito: eh, it just means you didn't have to deal with Zhao-Jin the Soul Crusher :) |
| 03:15.17 | Eraclito | oh well i did reach exalted and complete the chain |
| 03:15.24 | Eraclito | he was pretty easy as a mage |
| 03:15.39 | kullervo | Amarande: you don't actually get "spare shards" |
| 03:15.41 | Eraclito | you know, blink through the bad stuff |
| 03:16.01 | kullervo | they're so rare you're lucky to see one |
| 03:16.01 | Amarande | kullervo: hm. you don't keep getting shards after you've got your ten and get the mount? |
| 03:16.22 | Amarande | although I suppose if they got the mount early on they have no other use for any skyshards they've looted since then |
| 03:16.24 | Amarande | it *has* been a year |
| 03:16.40 | kullervo | also sup with not having to deal with Zhao-Jin? I pulled him along with about 6 other mobs and aoed them all down ._. |
| 03:17.00 | Amarande | kullervo: I mean the version you face when you hit exalted and have to do the final quest chain for the ring |
| 03:17.16 | kullervo | oh |
| 03:17.20 | Amarande | with the %^#$@#*(&&*@# lightning bolts of doom |
| 03:17.36 | Amarande | where if you don't know you can use the spear while mounted you're in for a world of effing pain |
| 03:17.56 | kullervo | the only difficult solo content in this expansion is brawler's guild and proving grounds |
| 03:18.05 | kullervo | those quests have nothing |
| 03:18.06 | Amarande | and why would you expect to be able to use the spear while mounted at all if you hadn't read through spoilers that you could? it's not like you can do that anywhere else :) |
| 03:18.16 | kullervo | especially proving grounds where you have to rely on some extremely degenerate tactics |
| 03:18.26 | Amarande | it's like MegaTen secret bosses, only a little more evil |
| 03:18.36 | kullervo | Amarande: you're exaggerating the difficulty |
| 03:18.48 | kullervo | we had this discussion earlier and I still think you have l2p issues |
| 03:18.49 | Eraclito | i didn't try the proving grounds yet |
| 03:20.00 | Amarande | hm. I'm not actually sure there's anywhere else in the whole game where you need the specific player skills Zhao-Jin called for |
| 03:20.09 | Amarande | as in, the perfectly timed jumps over lightning bolts etc. |
| 03:20.18 | Amarande | maybe that bit with vanessa vancleef in heroic deadmines, but who goes there anymore |
| 03:21.05 | kullervo | who plays only WoW |
| 03:21.16 | Amarande | and I do mean perfectly timed because if you aren't exactly on the ball, you may have avoided *that* lightning bolt but you'll be caught flatfooted for the next |
| 03:21.23 | kullervo | try to dodge aliens which bite your head off if they get in melee range and move at 10m/s |
| 03:21.42 | Amarande | ... Flood from Halo, am I right? |
| 03:21.48 | kullervo | no, dretches from Tremulous |
| 03:22.03 | kullervo | the flood are tame |
| 03:24.16 | Amarande | Dretches from Tremulous. I want to say Skyrim but even though dretch *sounds* Daedric I definitely remember that being a demon type from D&D |
| 03:25.42 | Amarande | speaking of which I should start skyrim soon, I finally got it the other day for ps3 |
| 03:25.52 | kullervo | I could try that too |
| 03:26.03 | kullervo | goign to pick up my gtx 780 from mail todayy |
| 03:30.35 | Amarande | I wonder how early game finances compare to Morrowind and Oblivion |
| 03:30.55 | Amarande | in Morrowind I found it relatively easy to get on my feet gold-wise, while in Oblivion it was a horrendously tediously painful process |
| 03:31.39 | Amarande | also whether they've eased up from oblivion in the "don't level too much early on or it gets super hard" department |
| 03:36.12 | kullervo | hey Amarande, did you see my iron juggernaut video yet? |
| 03:40.55 | Amarande | hm don't think I did |
| 03:41.17 | kullervo | http://smhttp.14409.nexcesscdn.net/806D5E/wordpress-L/images/post-jackiechan.jpg |
| 03:42.24 | Amarande | heh |
| 03:42.32 | kullervo | eh nice, copypaste doesn't work between my machines right now |
| 03:42.41 | kullervo | I actually thought I'd pasted the youtube link |
| 03:43.13 | kullervo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5p7ZFIZ5HY |
| 03:43.13 | narwhalbot | YouTube Iron Juggernaut 10H Tank PoV - Fear the Rabbit |
| 03:53.55 | Amarande | nice |
| 03:54.04 | Amarande | and yay a youtube video I can actually watch with the html5 mode too |
| 03:54.24 | kullervo | must be because it's new and made to youtube specs |
| 03:54.38 | Amarande | kullervo: it's more because it isn't monetised |
| 03:54.57 | kullervo | ... ooh right, they can't play advertisements on the html5 player can they? |
| 03:55.02 | Amarande | the big problem with the html5 mode is that while videos that aren't converted seem to be rarish nowadays, the ads are all flash still |
| 03:55.19 | Amarande | and if it's meant to be monetised, it'll just say no way jose and show that TV-static background when you try to play it |
| 03:55.22 | kullervo | and yeah I see no point in "monetizing" my videos |
| 03:55.33 | kullervo | even if I had 100k viewers |
| 03:55.41 | Amarande | but damned if I'm going to reinstall flash unless I can't avoid it |
| 03:55.56 | Amarande | there are sites I belong to that would crawl like a maggot when I had flash installed and they run clear as day now |
| 03:56.15 | kullervo | noscript is great |
| 03:58.17 | Amarande | 'course, now the trend seems to be to build flash into browsers, firefox seems to be the only one of the big three that hasn't done that yet *headdesk* |
| 03:59.27 | Amarande | IE10 and 11 have built in flash, so does chrome ... silly idea :S |
| 04:06.29 | Amarande | I'm not sure why the advertisers don't just go to html5 videos too |
| 04:06.37 | Amarande | or is there some specific advantage to flash for that? |
| 04:07.09 | kullervo | you can tell whether people have watched the advertisement if it's flash |
| 04:07.18 | kullervo | I don't see ads in any case |
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| 10:04.08 | b4k4^^ | fwiw, you *do* get shards after the first ten, and our core durid healer got three within half an hour last week |
| 10:04.43 | b4k4^^ | random is random |
| 10:59.20 | Ward | is oQueue a legit addon? |
| 10:59.39 | Ward | curse had put it under moderation but I can´t find any official posts about it |
| 11:05.37 | b4k4^^ | I know it works |
| 11:06.17 | b4k4^^ | dunno if it only does what it claims to do but then I have that issue with all adds |
| 11:06.29 | b4k4^^ | *addons :P |
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| 11:30.45 | Ward | when a project goes under moderation could mean it has spyware |
| 11:30.53 | Ward | or it´s violating tos |
| 11:33.22 | Domh | They're probably looking at some of the things like "contacts" they add into it |
| 11:33.28 | Domh | *contracts |
| 11:33.47 | Domh | The devs added a pretty useless feature in that one - I usually turn it off immediately |
| 11:34.01 | Ward | I just use it to find pugs for world bosses quickly |
| 11:34.09 | Ward | weekly ordos |
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| 15:30.01 | Dipset | Hey I used to play wow and still have my lvl90 dk i think..but i havent played since MOP first came out...is there anyone that wants to do RAF or something and i can get my old account back cuz im interested in WoW again. im looking for an easy way to level some atls too now that im am back thats why i waNT TO DO RAF |
| 15:32.04 | narwhalbot | [Wowhead News] Patch 5.4.1 PTR: Recruit-A-Friend Pets and In-Game UI - http://www.wowhead.com/news=222465/patch-5-4-1-ptr-recruit-a-friend-pets-and-in-game-ui |
| 15:34.48 | Dipset | Ok well I need smeone who is stil playing the game to email me an invite...and who will actually level with me and teach me their jedi ways on WoW lol |
| 15:40.02 | Dipset | no one? |
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| 15:51.08 | MannyLudolf | is away (zZz) |
| 15:57.15 | Dipset | ey I used to play wow and still have my lvl90 dk i think..but i havent played since MOP first came out...is there anyone that wants to do RAF or something and i can get my old account back cuz im interested in WoW again. im looking for an easy way to level some atls too now that im am back thats why i waNT TO DO RAFOk well I need smeone who is stil playing the game to email me an invite...and who will actually level with me and teach me |
| 15:57.34 | Jammer | wasn't RAF disabled? |
| 15:57.56 | Dipset | I have no clue.. i havent played since MOP first came out |
| 15:58.31 | Jammer | It’s been a while since we’ve updated the Recruit-A-Friend program, but the time has come once again to close the doors for a bit and do a little remodeling. On Tuesday, October 15, we’ll be temporarily shutting down new Recruit-a-Friend sign-ups. Don’t worry though—the program will be back (and better than ever) before you know it. |
| 15:59.08 | Dipset | if there is any option like that I would like to know if someone would invite me and level some toons w me and teach me how to really play the damn game lol |
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| 20:59.18 | kullervo | you know what's the BIGGEST tank improvement blizzard has made recently? |
| 20:59.34 | kullervo | a huge buff that's often overlooked |
| 20:59.39 | kullervo | or not noticed at all |
| 21:00.24 | kullervo | all areas have some room behind usual tanking locations so your camera never zooms incredibly close so that you don't get to see anything |
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| 21:14.10 | Amarande | kullervo: that's just sane zone design, not really a "buff" |
| 21:14.31 | Amarande | they've just learned lately to recognise one of the big flaws with 3D graphical engines |
| 21:14.47 | Amarande | actually that's kind of a headdesk even because it's the ... fourth expansion now and they're only just realising this? :S |
| 21:15.21 | Amarande | practically every 3D game I've played has had areas where camera orientation and management is often as difficult as the actual task, though |
| 21:15.58 | Amarande | though WoW generally suffers less from this than most games, when you think of it |
| 21:16.07 | Amarande | (tab targeting being the main reason) |
| 21:16.52 | Amarande | many other games there's no tab targeting, so what becomes the *real* problem is the meta task of orienting you and the camera so not only are you in range of what you need to deal with, but so it's also onscreen sufficiently to achieve a mouse click on it :p |
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| 21:17.23 | Amarande | at least in wow you don't actually need the target to be on camera to fight it, *you* just need to be facing and in LoS of it |
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| 21:52.36 | kullervo | haha holy shit |
| 21:52.45 | kullervo | I just opened my ASUS GTX780 box |
| 21:52.56 | kullervo | it's like twice the size of GTX460 |
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| 22:20.19 | b4k4^^ | I can believe that |
| 22:20.30 | b4k4^^ | I upgraded from a GTS450 to a GTX770 |
| 22:21.12 | b4k4^^ | "holy hell does this even fit in the case?" |
| 22:21.33 | b4k4^^ | (it did, but... there were some thermal issues :D) |
| 22:23.25 | b4k4^^ | (then I got a case with sane airflow) |
| 22:24.31 | b4k4^^ | (I lubs my Coolermaster HAF XB, up to a point) |
| 22:26.01 | b4k4^^ | (I haz too much legacy stuff, namely PATA drives -_-) |
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| 22:50.50 | LFinvitestolowpo | anybody on a super low pop realm they can invite me to for KW rares? |
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| 23:08.07 | kullervo | b4k4^^: yeah I knew it would, ATX-XL case :D |
| 23:10.07 | b4k4^^ | heh |
| 23:10.30 | b4k4^^ | I had a for-free Antec Sonata II earlier |
| 23:10.39 | b4k4^^ | it was enough before the upgrade |
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| 23:11.06 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2013-10-25_02-11-03.png |
| 23:11.10 | kullervo | wow at Ultra, 32x CSAA |
| 23:11.44 | b4k4^^ | nice cooling :P |
| 23:12.04 | kullervo | it's completely silent too |
| 23:12.58 | kullervo | well, not right now though |
| 23:13.08 | kullervo | case cooling set up for the gtx 460 |
| 23:13.08 | b4k4^^ | because playing? |
| 23:13.12 | b4k4^^ | :D |
| 23:14.43 | b4k4^^ | did some adjusting (connected the CPU fan and an exhaust fan next to it with a splitter, turned front fans down, ditched AVG) and mine runs cooler and quieter than it used to |
| 23:14.59 | b4k4^^ | also helps that I hate high AA, looks blurry to me |
| 23:17.13 | b4k4^^ | no water cooling yet and probably won't happen with the current CPU |
| 23:17.53 | b4k4^^ | a huge aircooler was easier back then |
| 23:21.14 | kullervo | my setup has the back fan pointing at the CPU cooler which points upwards |
| 23:21.34 | kullervo | the top has two 230mm fans |
| 23:21.39 | b4k4^^ | oof |
| 23:21.56 | b4k4^^ | I can't *fit* 230 mm fans :D |
| 23:22.28 | b4k4^^ | could fit one 200 mm |
| 23:22.40 | b4k4^^ | if my CPU cooler wasn't so tall |
| 23:25.07 | kullervo | b4k4^^: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cwmbymbcj7v4whb/20131012_014753.jpg |
| 23:25.11 | kullervo | old GPU ofc |
| 23:25.21 | kullervo | the new one comes above the bottom fan and thus gets suberb airflow |
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| 23:27.30 | b4k4^^ | yeah, that explains a bit |
| 23:29.23 | b4k4^^ | huge aircoolers crowding DIMM slots </3 |
| 23:29.54 | kullervo | I just couldn't install the 4th DIMM without removing that cooler |
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| 23:30.01 | kullervo | but right now I have 16GB |
| 23:30.22 | kullervo | so it's not something I'd do tomorrow anyway |
| 23:30.34 | b4k4^^ | mine *just* fits if the fan is on the opposite side from DIMM slots |
| 23:30.54 | b4k4^^ | less than 1 mm extra room |
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| 23:31.50 | b4k4^^ | I've been thinking about pulling the CPU cooling air from back and exhaust it through front, but meh, it'd take, like, effort |
| 23:32.15 | b4k4^^ | and it works well enough |
| 23:33.03 | kullervo | the only thing that gets remotely hot in my case are the SSDs/HDD |
| 23:33.11 | kullervo | and they're like... 47C at WORST. |
| 23:33.32 | b4k4^^ | that's a bit toasty |
| 23:33.48 | b4k4^^ | I like 35-ish |
| 23:38.40 | kullervo | yeah mine would be 20-ish if I moved the HDD rack back down to the bottom of the case |
| 23:39.02 | kullervo | but too much trouble, I'd have to remove the dampening material there and figure out whether that would negatively impact the GPU temp |
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