| 00:00.10 | Amarande | well, whoever was responsible for boss positioning, anyway, ultimately killed me I think |
| 00:00.36 | Amarande | but basically, there had been room, then the boss moved towards the side I was on so the space got too small |
| 00:00.39 | JunkHead- | i have 1 lfr raid left i can do this week. but i dont think im doing it |
| 00:00.46 | JunkHead- | msv part 1.:\ |
| 00:01.03 | kullervo | I only did lfr on my paladin for the legendary tokens |
| 00:01.21 | Amarande | the "does blizzard like you" tokens you mean |
| 00:01.29 | Amarande | I only ever managed 7 of the powers and 1 of the wisdoms |
| 00:01.36 | JunkHead- | i had hoped to finish that black prince quest before the patch comes out. the one where you gotta get 6000 vp. |
| 00:01.51 | JunkHead- | im at about 4200 i think |
| 00:01.56 | Amarande | I imagine next time I subscribe to WoW there'll probably be people in full thunder king still doing msv and hof trying to get the damn tokens |
| 00:02.27 | Amarande | heh, kinda like Diablo II where you'd have almost all the gear you wanted, and would spend months trying to get the other piece to drop |
| 00:02.48 | Amarande | it wasn't always something super rare either. once I needed a Sol rune to finish a new insight pole for a merc and literally found an SOJ before I found a Sol |
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| 00:03.22 | Amarande | (& since there's such an infestation of duped and botted items in D2, I tended to be very wary of any kind of trading at all) |
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| 00:08.02 | Amarande | good grief, zipping up the wow folder for later takes a long time |
| 00:08.21 | Amarande | like, two hours |
| 00:09.07 | fewyn | why would you zip up the wow folder? |
| 00:09.17 | fewyn | you're not going to get any compression out of it really |
| 00:09.23 | fewyn | it's mostly already compressed |
| 00:09.40 | fewyn | should just tar it up and call it a day |
| 00:09.44 | Amarande | yeah, it does look like I'm only going to save about 8-10% of disk space |
| 00:10.01 | Amarande | mind you, since I usually use SD cards for backups now, even a gig or two can make a difference |
| 00:10.56 | Amarande | stopped using an external hard drive when the cat informed me as to a serious drawback of such media :P |
| 00:11.06 | Amarande | if you get what I mean heh |
| 00:11.09 | JunkHead- | dammit i forgot lesser charms will buy the new thing for bonus rolls |
| 00:11.17 | JunkHead- | ugh i gotta do dailies.:( |
| 00:11.49 | Amarande | "Meow!" *CRASH* "crap, files are corrupted, guess this thing's shot" |
| 00:12.36 | Amarande | I've heard SD cards have trouble with longevity as a backup medium. OTOH, they're also a good bit less destructible than most other stuff |
| 00:13.16 | Amarande | Tapes can snarl or have a run-in with magnets, discs can get scratched, hard drives can be knocked over (especially given how many of them require two cords due to needing an external AC unit in addition to USB :|) |
| 00:13.45 | Amarande | I suppose tape is probably the most reliable of those, but tape is also still insanely expensive |
| 00:14.15 | Amarande | a good tape drive will run you more than the cost of the rest of your rig :| |
| 00:14.26 | Amarande | and sadly that is probably true even if you went for a 680 GTX or such heh |
| 00:15.05 | Amarande | pretty sure for the rest of your rig to cost more than a typical tape backup drive, you need to have either an LGA 2011 processor or a GTX 590/690 or both, heh |
| 00:17.35 | Amarande | and in any case, almost everything I back up these days is more out of convenience than real loss prevention :S |
| 00:19.16 | Amarande | hm. when upgrading from the starter edition of D3 to the full game do you actually have to download anything or is it like WoW where you just pay to have an access flag flipped on the server? |
| 00:20.46 | fewyn | i think it's like wow |
| 00:25.48 | Amarande | ah |
| 00:26.05 | Amarande | heh. apparently the hardware folks who suggest SD is bad for backups are being a tad paranoid |
| 00:26.12 | Amarande | the lifetime of data on an SD is still measured in years :) |
| 00:38.01 | fewyn | butbutbut i want to use this hard drive for the next 500 years! |
| 00:38.08 | fewyn | and constantly write to it |
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| 00:44.41 | Amarande | fewyn: by then a solar flare will probably have wiped out everyone's computer anyway |
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| 01:36.33 | Amarande | Hm. Yet another reason to know I needed a break from WoW. I was reading an article on US government cuts and almost read the aircraft carrier's name as the USS Turalyon *facepalm* |
| 01:41.57 | fewyn | lol |
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| 02:16.12 | kullervo | I just LoS pulled my group's ranged players where I wanted |
| 02:16.33 | kullervo | kited the last boss in scarlet cathedral around a pillar until they all were there in melee range |
| 02:27.02 | Amarande | Ahh, Scarlet Monastery. |
| 02:27.17 | Amarande | HOW TO TELL THE HALVES OF SM APART: Scarlet Monastery is the fun part, and Scarlet Halls is the "fun" part. |
| 02:28.22 | Amarande | And by "fun", we mean pretty much the definition as professed by our dear friend in the education profession, Prof. Putricide. :) |
| 02:34.19 | Amarande | hm, D3 patch notes: "The resurrection timer will no longer increase if a player is killed multiple times in a row." |
| 02:34.27 | Amarande | Why couldn't we have got that in WoW too? :( |
| 02:52.02 | kullervo | because in wow you could zerg stuff |
| 02:55.11 | Amarande | You could do that in D2 too, depending on the stuff and its location and whether you were studious about having a TP up whenever you thought you might have a problem. I suppose I'll find out this is not the case in D3, then. :) |
| 02:55.44 | kullervo | Amarande: scarlet halls normal is the Fun part because you can do it all in 2 total actual pulls |
| 02:55.56 | kullervo | the first dog and his dogs don't count really |
| 02:56.11 | Amarande | heh, I suppose I'm thinking about two things in particular about Scarlet Halls |
| 02:56.36 | kullervo | explain |
| 02:56.49 | Amarande | one is that if I need to farm silk, I go to SM always, never SH, because SH even if you're 90 and soloing it with ease you still have to stop to accede to some of the gimmickry |
| 02:57.07 | kullervo | oh |
| 02:57.12 | kullervo | by "normal" I meant "heroic" |
| 02:57.15 | Amarande | particularly you have to stop and do the use the archery target as a shield bit, because the guys there are just out of reach of 40 yard abilities and will knock you back |
| 02:57.36 | kullervo | because for me "heroic" at this point means "challenge" |
| 02:57.41 | Amarande | (might be able to just zerg through them if you had a landshark, I guess, heh) |
| 02:58.04 | kullervo | got to get in melee range, triggered event |
| 02:58.14 | Amarande | also, blades of light. ridiculous little ability. and even though I've figured out the pattern, the fact that you can't bubble out of it is just pants |
| 02:58.58 | kullervo | "pattern" being "hug the wall next to the stairs on ground level" |
| 02:59.00 | Amarande | despite the fact that you've been able to use iceblock while stunned for Light only knows how long, you still get "you can't do that right now" if you get picked up by Blades |
| 02:59.24 | Amarande | heh, exactly. it doesn't seem to be entirely consistent. then again, inconsistent ninja-reflex pattern stuff seems to be the way of the world in MoP. :| |
| 02:59.45 | kullervo | actually, it is consistent. |
| 02:59.51 | kullervo | and you just suck. |
| 03:00.01 | kullervo | the golden lotus quest you QQd about earlier was ridiculously easy. |
| 03:00.07 | Amarande | Yeah. I think someone took the whole martial arts aspect of things a little too consistently far. :) |
| 03:00.36 | Amarande | kullervo: before you came to WoW, did you tend to be more of an action gamer (like Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, etc.) or more of a traditional RPG gamer? |
| 03:01.02 | Amarande | I'm guessing people of the former stripe tend to relish MoP and people of the latter tend to get irritated much more easily. No points for telling which I was. :) |
| 03:01.23 | kullervo | I had some MMO experience from one korean game with very simple mechanics |
| 03:01.46 | kullervo | but I'd played all sorts of arcade games and older shooting games |
| 03:02.01 | kullervo | Soldat many a year ago and Tremulous even these days |
| 03:02.21 | kullervo | also RTS games |
| 03:04.41 | Amarande | ahh. I had almost entirely come from RPGs |
| 03:05.09 | Amarande | I started with the Ultima and Gold Box AD&D series, then mainly the Baldur's Gate engine games and D2, then GW1 and then WoW |
| 03:05.30 | kullervo | actually ditch the earlier bit about simple mechanics, you could do some really cool stuff |
| 03:06.22 | kullervo | Amarande: ever heard of Gunz online? It had this thing called Korean style where by abusing the game engine with very very very fast actions you could basically fly while deflecting pullets and slicing everyone |
| 03:06.28 | kullervo | and also shooting |
| 03:06.29 | Amarande | I had played the DOOM engine games, but for the most part I tended to rely on god mode a lot when actually playing and was more of a level designer |
| 03:06.49 | Amarande | Nope. |
| 03:07.15 | Amarande | The only Asian MMO I really knew much about was Shin Megami Tensei online. Which I tried for a very short time and wish I could try again, but now that I have a 64-bit computer with 16GB I don't think that's happening :( |
| 03:07.54 | kullervo | I don't see how that would be an issue |
| 03:08.01 | Amarande | Some kind of anti-cheat code, apparently |
| 03:08.11 | Amarande | It doesn't like 64-bit OS, and it's not like I can use a 32-bit OS reasonably with 16GB RAM |
| 03:08.25 | kullervo | use a virtual one, then |
| 03:09.23 | Amarande | But yeah, while D2 and GW1 had things where a good reflex was your buddy (especially since I played a mesmer quite extensively late on in GW1), it wasn't anywhere near as complex as WoW's dances, which seem to get more complex and more unforgiving each expansion |
| 03:09.58 | Amarande | I mean, yeah, it's one thing to take damage if you get hit by the boss's thingamabob. But near-guaranteed instant death from just one slip up in a long boss fight? That's more action-games territory. |
| 03:10.07 | kullervo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb1m0OvXK8U |
| 03:10.59 | kullervo | those aliens will oneshot you with a headshot if you don't have a helmet |
| 03:11.04 | kullervo | the very large ones do it regardless |
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| 08:07.15 | raspy | not much i can use for lfr on my mage now its kinda sad |
| 08:08.02 | Morril | Lugburz! |
| 08:08.11 | Morril | <3 |
| 08:09.39 | Lugburz | <3 |
| 08:09.42 | Lugburz | heh sups bro |
| 08:09.50 | Lugburz | dudee you realize we are friends on fb as well right? |
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| 13:18.31 | raspy | hehe not really i never have time to do the real ones |
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| 16:44.38 | superare09 | .{ DRjK.bta rcm |
| 16:45.07 | MonkeyDildo_ | Iz anyone here like? |
| 16:45.47 | MonkeyDildo_ | !fapget |
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| 20:18.15 | Morril | But I'm never really on IRC any more. |
| 20:21.51 | raspy | weeee |
| 20:32.59 | Morril | ~whalenuke raspy |
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