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| 00:23.15 | Amarande | ah, yay. finally learned the scoop on rogue weapons. |
| 00:23.27 | Amarande | looks like it MOSTLY doesn't really matter what type they are on subtlety till high levels |
| 00:23.31 | Amarande | and not really at all till 40 |
| 00:23.42 | Amarande | at 40+ MH needs to be a dagger for Backstab |
| 00:23.53 | Amarande | though I'm still a little foggy on just how useful backstab can be expected to be when solo :S |
| 00:24.11 | Amarande | mainly on a "how often can I really expect to be behind a target during the fight unless I'm in a group?" thought |
| 00:24.14 | Ward | well you tend to open from behind with a stun |
| 00:24.23 | Domh | I thought they fixed it so you didn't have to be behind them anymore? |
| 00:24.23 | Ward | giving you the oppurtunity for a few backstabs |
| 00:24.25 | Amarande | don't you usually open with Ambush when you're solo? |
| 00:24.28 | Ward | no |
| 00:24.33 | Domh | bah. nm then |
| 00:24.36 | Ward | you want quick combo points |
| 00:24.37 | Ward | cheap shot |
| 00:24.53 | Amarande | backstab still requires daggers and still has a positional requirement |
| 00:25.34 | Domh | wouldn't know. My rogue is assasination still, with combat os |
| 00:25.54 | Domh | and as previously mentioned, I'm not great with it |
| 00:26.13 | Amarande | ah, cheap shot |
| 00:26.19 | Amarande | haven't reached that level yet heh |
| 00:27.00 | Amarande | the instinctive thought of course was "when you're solo, the mob's always going to be facing you, therefore, backstab's not of much use unless you open with it, but if you're going to open with a damager, Ambush is always better" |
| 00:27.29 | Amarande | mind you, I still rather wish positional requirements would go away in certain cases at least |
| 00:27.36 | Amarande | especially things like ... say, air elementals heh |
| 00:27.39 | Ward | the fun this about cheap shot is you can use it while walking up to a mob from the front |
| 00:27.56 | Amarande | like, seriously, some mobs you can't visually tell at all whether you're behind or in front of them |
| 00:27.58 | Ward | then step through him and get behind for a backstab for the next gcd |
| 00:30.12 | Amarande | btw, at what level do I stop hearing "Not enough energy!" on a very frequent basis? |
| 00:30.23 | Domh | When you turn your sound off I think |
| 00:30.30 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:30.35 | Amarande | there's never enough energy, I'm guessing? |
| 00:31.01 | Domh | I dunno. It goes up with your haste afaik |
| 00:31.07 | Domh | so once you get raid geared? |
| 00:31.29 | Domh | the regen that is, not the overall eneregy |
| 00:35.00 | Lugburz | KURWA |
| 00:35.24 | Domh | assumes that has some meaning? |
| 00:35.37 | Lugburz | sorry heard sojme polish |
| 00:35.50 | Lugburz | kurwa is like whore/bitch/fuck plus tons of other meanings in polish |
| 00:36.03 | Amarande | ahh, the fun of foreign swear words |
| 00:36.05 | Domh | An efficient curse |
| 00:36.13 | Lugburz | dude kurwa is amazing |
| 00:36.24 | Lugburz | apparently it means everything you need it to lol |
| 00:36.29 | Amarande | some horde guy from a guild named "Anam Cara" beat me to ... I think it was either a quest mob or an ore node once |
| 00:36.45 | Amarande | and it took quite a lot of will to not spit "Anam Carajo" at him :P |
| 00:36.49 | Lugburz | heh |
| 00:37.29 | Lugburz | but I became surprisingly well aquainted with kurwa and polish in general from *gasp* a private server |
| 00:37.36 | Lugburz | dodges banhammers |
| 00:38.33 | Domh | no no, they don't hammer for that. Surgial strike with a sniper rifle |
| 00:38.45 | Lugburz | or the dreaded whalenuke |
| 00:39.06 | Lugburz | shakes fist at infobot |
| 00:39.11 | Domh | I think they save taht one for guilds and taurens these days |
| 00:39.14 | Lugburz | ~me |
| 00:39.15 | infobot | methinks lugburz is a bike-fapper who will eat your sould to replace his lost one. He also likes Taco del Mar and bike-fapping.. Land of the Emote, or a fap-biker, or a bike fag, or dogel's secret crush Starfox in disguise. |
| 00:39.28 | Domh | ~me |
| 00:39.28 | infobot | rumour has it, domh is a tired evil Canadian. |
| 00:39.28 | Lugburz | how interesting the entry for me is |
| 00:39.33 | Lugburz | heh |
| 00:39.43 | Domh | ~whalenuke |
| 00:39.48 | Domh | hm |
| 00:39.48 | Lugburz | to be fair actually, the server was a TBC one, was interesting |
| 00:39.52 | Domh | I forget how to use infobot |
| 00:39.54 | Lugburz | ~nuke domh |
| 00:39.54 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at domh ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 00:39.58 | Domh | ~weather CYYT |
| 00:40.04 | Lugburz | was whalenuke removed? |
| 00:40.17 | Lugburz | shut |
| 00:40.20 | Lugburz | thats cold bri |
| 00:40.22 | Lugburz | bro' |
| 00:40.40 | Domh | infobot, whalenuke Lugburz |
| 00:40.40 | infobot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Lugburz with his mind powers. |
| 00:40.52 | Lugburz | ah yeah there it is :3 |
| 00:41.17 | Lugburz | ~weather USWA0395 |
| 00:41.28 | Lugburz | oh wrong weather code type |
| 00:41.30 | Domh | infobot uses airport coes for weather |
| 00:41.32 | Domh | yeah |
| 00:41.34 | Lugburz | yeah |
| 00:41.49 | Domh | What was the other bot they used for that? |
| 00:42.08 | Domh | `weather cyyt |
| 00:42.17 | Domh | !weather |
| 00:42.21 | Lugburz | ~weather KBFI |
| 00:42.24 | Domh | hmmm |
| 00:42.31 | Lugburz | yeah the exclamation point should be the one |
| 00:42.41 | Domh | oh. The other bot was wheaties. right |
| 00:42.51 | Lugburz | yeah |
| 00:43.05 | Lugburz | ~weather KBFI |
| 00:43.14 | Lugburz | weird |
| 00:43.18 | Lugburz | ~weather KSEA |
| 00:43.35 | Lugburz | zsnores |
| 00:46.32 | Domh | injects the sleeping Lugburz with sedatives, and ships him off to Russia. |
| 00:46.40 | Lugburz | :3 |
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| 00:48.04 | Lugburz | I wish though that weather worked with infobot T_T |
| 00:48.14 | Lugburz | infobot, destroy domh |
| 00:48.14 | infobot | no |
| 00:48.19 | Lugburz | T_T |
| 00:48.27 | Domh | ~botsnack |
| 00:48.27 | infobot | aw, gee, Domh |
| 00:48.40 | Lugburz | haha I love how in depth infobot is now |
| 00:51.18 | Domh | ~karma for Lugburz |
| 00:51.18 | infobot | for lugburz has neutral karma |
| 00:51.29 | Lugburz | really, hmm |
| 00:51.38 | Lugburz | I thought I had like plus one or minus one |
| 00:51.45 | Lugburz | ~karma for domh |
| 00:51.45 | infobot | for domh has neutral karma |
| 00:52.08 | Domh | who do I remember had actual karma |
| 00:52.13 | Domh | ~karma Miyari |
| 00:52.13 | infobot | miyari has karma of 4 |
| 00:52.27 | Domh | ~karma Noxy |
| 00:52.27 | infobot | noxy has karma of 1 |
| 00:52.28 | Ward | ~karma for Lugburz |
| 00:52.28 | infobot | for lugburz has neutral karma |
| 00:52.32 | Lugburz | her and a couple of others I think |
| 00:52.38 | Ward | silly bot |
| 00:53.42 | Domh | Silly? |
| 00:53.53 | Domh | ~ward-- |
| 00:53.55 | Lugburz | I love infobot >_> |
| 00:54.13 | Domh | ~karma ward |
| 00:54.13 | infobot | ward has karma of -1 |
| 00:54.16 | Domh | There we go |
| 00:54.21 | Lugburz | lolol |
| 00:54.23 | Domh | I'm remembering how to use the thing now |
| 00:55.33 | Lugburz | yeah its been quite some time |
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| 01:18.02 | Lugburz | meows` |
| 01:19.38 | Amarande | ~karma amarande |
| 01:19.38 | infobot | amarande has karma of 1 |
| 01:20.28 | Lugburz | how |
| 01:20.31 | Lugburz | you are worthless :p |
| 01:20.35 | Lugburz | T_T |
| 01:20.36 | Lugburz | jelly |
| 01:21.27 | JunkHead | ~karma JunkHead |
| 01:21.27 | infobot | junkhead has neutral karma |
| 01:21.41 | Amarande | wow, Duskwood is WAY more fun on a rogue |
| 01:21.51 | Amarande | especially at places like the Rotting Orchard |
| 01:22.27 | Lugburz | never quested in duskwood |
| 01:22.31 | Lugburz | OHWAIT THAT IS INCORRECT |
| 01:22.41 | Lugburz | there are a couple of random undead quests for horde in duskwood |
| 01:23.09 | Amarande | heh, well |
| 01:23.20 | Amarande | at this one place in particular, there's a bunch of worgen. well, actually there are a lot of worgen in duskwood |
| 01:23.30 | Lugburz | yeah |
| 01:23.30 | Amarande | but this one particular part has warlocky-type worgen, who aren't that bad |
| 01:23.35 | Lugburz | remember the people change at night ;) |
| 01:23.38 | Amarande | and stealthed rogue-type worgen |
| 01:23.55 | Amarande | which come out of nowhere (unless you're a stealth class yourself, then you get to avoid them \o/) and hit like a fucking Mack truck |
| 01:24.32 | Amarande | the last time I quested this zone was on a demo lock and those ones were the very definition of hurt :| |
| 01:24.49 | Amarande | especially since they'd usually have the luck not to see you till after your demon was already occupied with a warlock worgen |
| 01:24.52 | Lugburz | lol that syucjks |
| 01:24.59 | Lugburz | I hate the stealth mobs |
| 01:25.35 | Amarande | and voidwalkers these days seem to be a lot squishier than they once were, so trying to tank multiple mobs often doesn't turn out well anymore :( |
| 01:26.26 | Lugburz | wouldnt know |
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| 01:27.30 | Amarande | VWs used to be incredibly sturdy |
| 01:28.00 | Amarande | hell sometimes back in the day they used to be able to hold off mobs 10+ levels above you long enough that by the time they died the mob was too far from you and would reset instead of coming for you |
| 01:28.52 | Lugburz | no wayt |
| 01:28.56 | Lugburz | thats pretty convienant |
| 01:28.58 | Amarande | quite important, really. especially back in the day when a blood elf warlock was expected to make it through Hillsbrad and Arathi Highlands in one piece at *level 20* to reach Wetlands to do their Succubus quest |
| 01:29.15 | Amarande | remember Arathi was level 30-40 mobs back then |
| 01:29.18 | Lugburz | rofl fuck that shit |
| 01:29.21 | Lugburz | YES I REMEMBER |
| 01:29.27 | Amarande | and you didn't have a mount till 40 either :P |
| 01:29.31 | Lugburz | I stopped right as cata came out :| |
| 01:29.39 | Lugburz | wow and there used to be old azeroth |
| 01:29.42 | Amarande | yeah, it was a good thing the voidwalker was built like a rock back then |
| 01:29.43 | Lugburz | I dont know azeroth post cata |
| 01:30.32 | Amarande | now, they get pretty badly scuffed against single mobs near level sometimes, and two or three mobs near level can pretty easily take one down during the time it takes to kill the first one :| |
| 01:30.51 | Lugburz | thats dumb |
| 01:30.54 | Amarande | mind you, I don't have BoA on my warlock, either |
| 01:30.57 | Lugburz | voidwalkers are dumb anyways imo |
| 01:31.24 | Amarande | sometimes I get the impression that Blizzard figures that enough players these days have BoA that the mobs are made a little more difficult accordingly |
| 01:31.48 | Amarande | but then I hit 40 and tried out my felguard, and even the felguard seems kind of squishy lately |
| 01:32.46 | Lugburz | ew |
| 01:32.52 | Lugburz | demonology I know though has gotten worse |
| 01:32.56 | Lugburz | it used to be p good |
| 01:32.57 | Lugburz | but eh |
| 01:33.19 | Amarande | it doesn't feel like the damage output sucks |
| 01:33.31 | Amarande | but the survivability seems a tad low compared to some other classes |
| 01:33.39 | Amarande | then again, that's been a big shuffle in general |
| 01:33.44 | Amarande | rogues are a lot more survivable now, meanwhile |
| 01:33.51 | Amarande | and pallies seem to have lost a LOT of theirs |
| 01:33.57 | Jammer | demonology is really weird now with the energy... liked it much better in cata |
| 01:34.04 | Lugburz | thats so dumb |
| 01:34.12 | Lugburz | wait what |
| 01:34.18 | Lugburz | energy in demonology? |
| 01:34.19 | Arideni | pally used to be so fun lol |
| 01:34.34 | Amarande | used to be pallies seemed nigh on invincible as long as you were paying attention ... now, well ... let's put it this way, when I was on my warlock fighting aforementioned worgen, I remember seeing even a pally seeming to struggle with how hard the rogue-type worgen hit |
| 01:34.45 | Amarande | Lugburz: there's a Demonic Energy resource bar |
| 01:34.45 | Arideni | now shield has been nerfed to no end, etc. my friend and I had twin pallies and we would do everything together...we were unstoppable |
| 01:34.46 | Lugburz | pally was shit to a certain point in TBC |
| 01:34.53 | Lugburz | Amarande, oh lame that is stupid |
| 01:35.07 | Amarande | Demonic Energy is gained whenever you use damaging spells, and is used to power the metamorphosis form |
| 01:35.09 | Jammer | Lugburz: guess it's more like rage you use to do shit in demon form |
| 01:35.12 | Lugburz | Arideni, to remind you how pallys were bad early days, getting your epic mount dude |
| 01:35.19 | Lugburz | stupid |
| 01:35.23 | Arideni | not even just shield, but we would compliment each other and pvp or pve it didn't matter |
| 01:35.38 | Amarande | which has more powerful spells and a DPS boost simply for being in it, but gradually depletes your bar just by being in the form, and spells while in demonic form cost Demonic Energy to cast |
| 01:35.41 | Arideni | we did the epic mount quests together, too lol it was a chore but still fun |
| 01:35.53 | Amarande | when you run out of DE, demon form ends |
| 01:36.03 | Lugburz | that is dumb |
| 01:36.12 | Lugburz | heh yeah a huge chore |
| 01:36.12 | Arideni | It really does seem like warrior, pally, rogue that I've tried have very similar abilities now...and pally esp has been dumbed down |
| 01:36.44 | Amarande | also, dwarf female warlocks get very cute little horns when the DE bar is half full or more. :) |
| 01:36.44 | Arideni | each has silence or interrupts, breaks for snares etc and even a pally can have blind now...crazy. |
| 01:36.48 | Amarande | seriously, they're just adorable. :) |
| 01:37.37 | Amarande | also there's a baseline level of DE (one-fifth of the full bar) that it tends towards while you're not using the demon form |
| 01:38.03 | Amarande | as in, if it's above that, you'll slowly leak DE, if it's below (e.g. you depleted your full bar), it will gradually start to fill on its own towards the baseline even if you don't cast any spells |
| 01:38.43 | Amarande | Arideni: that's partly a good and partly a bad thing |
| 01:38.51 | Amarande | the bad side being that it makes the classes less unique |
| 01:39.07 | Amarande | the good side being that it makes it a lot easier to build a group without being mega fussy about what SPECIFIC classes you take |
| 01:39.41 | Amarande | in the olden days, you often needed a very specific class for a given role (e.g., in BC, which is where I remember it the most, some encounters practically screamed for a pally tank, while in some others you were just screwed unless your tank was a warrior) |
| 01:39.45 | Arideni | yeah I enjoyed the challenge of the different classes and having to master how they play |
| 01:40.13 | Amarande | like Heroic Shattered Halls, the AoE pulls were such that you basically had to have a pally unless you wanted things to be hair-pulling instead of just hard |
| 01:40.38 | Amarande | otoh, say, Reliquary in Black Temple, you had to have a warrior tank because one phase relied specifically on the tank having the spell reflection ability |
| 01:41.09 | Arideni | I accidentally started tanking Halls of Stone the other night in zerker stance and I was still able to tank reasonably well...coulda done it if the group focused DPS and didn't try to bumrush everything cuz it seemed mega easy... It was a chore, but coulda been done if I tried hard the whole time. I switched to defensive and it was night and day ofc |
| 01:41.32 | Amarande | or say Kaz'Rogal where having melee of any sort that had mana bars was nail-biting |
| 01:42.21 | Arideni | Right, but that's due to the way they made the encounters. They could still do that, but tailor them to non-tank or healer classes to make other roles viable as opposed to requiring a specific ability limiting class tank selection |
| 01:42.44 | Amarande | Or as an even more hideous case of class specificity, LOTRO |
| 01:43.23 | Amarande | LOTRO dungeons, even six-mans, very often have encounters that pretty much are the very definition of brutality or are even impossible unless your group includes members of very specific classes |
| 01:44.46 | Amarande | Which leads to some issues, particularly once the Rune-Keeper class came out in Mines of Moria ... a lot of dungeons were very strongly tuned around the healer being a Minstrel instead, with the result that while RKs were supposed to be both healer and DPS capable, for a lot of fights they had to either be merely secondary healer (yes, LOTRO fights in 6-man can be hard enough to make one worthwhile) or just DPS |
| 01:45.36 | Amarande | compare, say, a lot of the hybrid caster classes in vanilla WoW. they supposedly had tank or DPS capabilities, but the encounters and abilities ended up being tuned such that the vast majority of the time they were shoved pretty forcibly into the healer role |
| 01:46.12 | Amarande | you didn't really see tankadins or bear druids much till BC from what I'm told, in vanilla, you sucked it up and went Holy and Resto |
| 01:46.59 | Amarande | (and viable Retribution paladins didn't really see the light of day till Wrath, apparently) |
| 01:48.22 | Amarande | so, yeah ... class homogenisation sucks when it removes some of the flavour of playing a class, but it's nice when it comes to letting classes actually use all their specs, and when it comes to forming groups |
| 01:48.52 | Amarande | (and remember the days in BC when even the DPS had to be micromanaged in class terms, because heroics often depended on at least one DPS being a specific class to have the right stuff for CC?) |
| 01:49.18 | Arideni | Resto was the only way in vanilla. My first toon and 60 was a druid. |
| 01:49.38 | Amarande | it's part of why Cata was a rough ride in the early going, too |
| 01:50.30 | Arideni | Yup, usually wanted a mage for CC and people didn't trust rogues or even Hunters because, well, most players were solo so often they never developed those kinds of habits for group roles |
| 01:50.32 | Amarande | at launch, heroics were hard enough that CC was important again, but thanks to the dungeon finder allowing your DPS to be any random classes (and people's CCing skills atrophying due to Wrath really not having needed it much, and some classes like DKs just not really having much in the way of viable CC skills at all), you often didn't have it, making some things much harder |
| 01:50.47 | Amarande | MUCH harder sometimes (especially places like HoO with those OMG facemelting shadowlancers) |
| 01:51.50 | Amarande | Arideni: from what I'd seen, rogues were actually usually welcome, while the classes that got short shrift were DPS DKs and warriors |
| 01:51.54 | Arideni | Rogue was my second, and sap became a big thing. I never got put to use so much until TBC in a real tight guild where my main focus was Heroics. After so much sight-seeing as rogue I was easily able to lead groups as a warrior and tank through it all. I think a melee DPS is great for working with tanks because they get to see everything up close and personal. |
| 01:52.14 | Arideni | I was thinking more before DK were thought of hehe |
| 01:52.27 | Amarande | early in cata, there were forum posts indicating that it was quite frequent for DPS plate (excepting paladins) to actually get vote kicked on a very regular basis |
| 01:52.38 | Arideni | Ouch |
| 01:52.44 | Amarande | for the sole reason of freeing up a party slot so that the group could hope for a class with better CC to be the replacement |
| 01:53.08 | Amarande | even happened to me in Deadmines heroic once :| |
| 01:53.26 | Arideni | See I haven't even done Cataclysm yet. |
| 01:53.57 | Amarande | It got better later on, but mostly because the downward percolation of raid grade epics into JP and VP made everyone start outgearing everything |
| 01:54.35 | Lugburz | Amarande, thats cause deadmines heroic is absolute serious buisness |
| 01:54.37 | Amarande | so CC was mostly only needed in certain spots (like those OMG facemelting shadowlancers) |
| 01:55.01 | Amarande | Lug: ugh tell me about it, even later on when I got to go there in a guild group, the instance was not a particular favourite of mine :P |
| 01:55.03 | Jammer | geez you're making me feel all nostalgic about doing those heroics back in start of cata |
| 01:55.18 | Jammer | was so thrilling after facerolling wrath |
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| 01:55.47 | Jammer | really hoped they would have gone with about same difficulty for mop |
| 01:55.52 | Mineo | http://www.wowhead.com/item=86997#same-model-as that must be a bug? |
| 01:56.22 | Amarande | Jammer: I'm guessing the reason they didn't is because of things like the aforementioned Cata launch heroics issue |
| 01:56.36 | Jammer | ye |
| 01:56.42 | Djones_ | MoP is harder than cata. |
| 01:56.43 | Amarande | since we have LFD and Blizzard expects that we will use it frequently, it's not really fair to design dungeons such that a specific class balance is needed |
| 01:56.45 | Jammer | I guess for your average player it was just too hard |
| 01:56.48 | Mineo | Can 509 hc armor gear drop from HoF? :S http://www.wowhead.com/item=86997#same-model-as |
| 01:56.55 | Mineo | fewyn |
| 01:56.58 | Amarande | especially when people were being votekicked just so the group could alter the class composition |
| 01:57.49 | Jammer | Mineo: trash drops don't tend to have heroic version |
| 01:58.07 | Jammer | firelands was probably like the only exception and even there you needed the item from a heroic boss to upgrade |
| 01:58.15 | Mineo | no so why are there items on wowhead & atlasloot? :P |
| 01:58.15 | Amarande | the fact that the dungeons were tuned such that class composition was that important, basically is an indication that such designs don't work in an LFD based WoW |
| 01:58.25 | Arideni | LFD? Looking for Dungeon? |
| 01:58.27 | Amarande | and really, some cata dungeons were that bad |
| 01:58.34 | Amarande | heroic Stonecore was a good example |
| 01:58.35 | Jammer | Mineo: they seem to generate heroic version of everything |
| 01:58.53 | Mineo | Ah okey. |
| 01:59.01 | Amarande | We had a GUILD group at one point. We'd had a pretty easy (well as easy as heroic VC can be) heroic deadmines run, and we'd wiped the floor with heroic Vortex Pinnacle |
| 01:59.03 | Jammer | Mineo: you can find similar items from previous expansions too that wasn't ever available |
| 01:59.24 | Amarande | and we couldn't get past Corborus in heroic Stonecore - because we had a DPS combination that almost entirely lacked AoE firepower |
| 01:59.42 | Amarande | so the shale spider thing was impossible |
| 01:59.42 | Djones_ | Amarande, no |
| 01:59.48 | Djones_ | You just didn't know how to do it right. |
| 02:00.11 | Jammer | I'd be more worried about the crystals than spiders :D |
| 02:01.52 | Jammer | don't really remember spiders causing any wipes... usually the crystals or someone standing under the boss in the spider phase |
| 02:19.55 | Amarande | hm. |
| 02:20.08 | Amarande | Are Twilight Grove and Seradane actually even used for anything anymore? |
| 02:20.16 | Amarande | or are they just places that will be left empty for good now? |
| 02:20.28 | Amarande | well ... actually I think there's a few battlable pets in Seradane, but that's all heh |
| 02:26.16 | Amarande | heh. though actually Twilight Grove still gives one a creepyish feeling no matter what, just looking at the map even :) |
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| 10:05.06 | adampjr | hello all |
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| 15:57.02 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] Exploration Guide: The Relic Hunter - http://www.wowhead.com/news=209071/exploration-guide-the-relic-hunter |
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| 16:39.47 | Angerinfused | anyone else having issues with connecting to anything battle.net related? |
| 16:54.24 | JunkHead | haven't tried. i was able to log onto wow fine about an hour ago. but thats all ive tried today |
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| 17:04.47 | Angerinfused | think it was ISP fault. error 2. working now however |
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| 17:31.10 | Ward | I need motes of harmony |
| 17:31.23 | Ward | how long would it take to get tiller to revered, just to farm them? |
| 17:31.34 | Ward | on an alt with barely friendly rep |
| 17:35.06 | Jammer | about 1-2 weeks I suppose with double rep |
| 17:38.16 | Ward | hmm |
| 17:38.27 | Ward | faster to farm heroics/scenarios then |
| 17:39.10 | Ward | heh |
| 17:39.14 | Ward | did 1 day of dailies just now |
| 17:39.17 | Ward | and got to honored |
| 17:39.38 | Ward | so I guesstimate revered is less than 5 days now |
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| 17:42.43 | Jammer | from less than friendly? |
| 17:43.21 | Jammer | how much are you getting per quest |
| 17:43.24 | Jammer | isn't it like 550 |
| 17:44.53 | Ward | I was at friendly |
| 17:44.54 | Ward | barely |
| 17:45.14 | Ward | I got 7k rep total so far, just from doing the quests and dailies available at Halfhill |
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| 17:59.53 | Jammer | probably 3-4 days from honored to revered |
| 18:23.20 | JunkHead | quick querstion. |
| 18:23.28 | JunkHead | any good monk related addons? |
| 18:23.35 | JunkHead | i feel like finally working on mine. |
| 18:23.48 | JunkHead | anything i can use to help learn rotations or anythign as i level up? |
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| 19:33.12 | fewyn | weee i got bonus loot roll |
| 19:33.34 | fewyn | got the chest from elegon on normal mode |
| 19:33.41 | fewyn | iw as hoping for the trinket though |
| 19:33.48 | fewyn | this is only like a very minor upgrade |
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| 19:38.58 | pelf | i did HoF LFR earlier and got 5 bags of gold and one item ... is that a common loot:boss ratio? |
| 19:39.55 | JunkHead | all gold is very common |
| 19:40.00 | JunkHead | be shocked you got an item. |
| 19:40.49 | pelf | i shall recalibrate accordingly |
| 19:45.00 | Ward | on my mage I get like 5 or 6 items a week |
| 19:45.02 | Ward | shard it all |
| 19:45.11 | Ward | on my druid, that actually needs gear, I just get bags of gold |
| 19:47.15 | g0urra | fewyn: on my warrior I got the 2h from boss and 1h from coin |
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| 20:00.11 | fewyn | i'm trying to put an uncut orange gem into a socket... i think i need some caffiene |
| 20:09.07 | g0urra | or sleep |
| 20:15.13 | Lugburz | ^^ |
| 20:15.21 | Lugburz | but fewyns not weak though |
| 20:15.26 | Lugburz | so he is not going to sleep |
| 20:31.53 | fewyn | i need to get a new bed, i haven't been sleeping well as of late |
| 20:33.09 | Lugburz | that sucks |
| 20:33.13 | Lugburz | sleep is super important |
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