IRC log for #wowhead on 20130115

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00:05.07Amarandeheh Ward, the federal government takes it up to eleven
00:05.25AmarandeThe Guardian is reporting they're even getting ready to file suit against the states that have passed legal-weed laws
00:10.12JunkHeadI'm so tired I don't even feel like WoW.:\
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00:21.24Amarandehmmmmmm
00:21.32AmarandeI'm being told to go meet someone in a zone I've already cleared
00:21.38AmarandeI've also gained a rep increase with a faction I haven't met yet
00:21.41AmarandeI'm guessing this means more dailies
00:21.43Amarandeheh
00:23.24JunkHeadwhat lvl is u?
00:23.50Amarande90
00:25.01Amarandewith luck, I'll exalt with something soon so I can do a few less dailies, heh
00:26.03JunkHeadyeah. it's nice. until you roll an alt.
00:26.37Amarandeyeah, it's going to be nice to get those commendations that unlock double rep on alts
00:27.23JunkHeadThey help. but they don't make you wanna do the dailies again.
00:30.02Amarandeyeah, especially since now there's those lovely cloud serpent ones
00:30.18Amarandeif you want to rep up as fast as possible ... hi there! you get to grind fishing and cooking and first aid on EVERYONE
00:31.14JunkHeadnah
00:31.20JunkHeadonly fishing is required for those.
00:31.29JunkHeadyou can cook the fish cakes on another character.
00:31.42JunkHeadwell, first aid is too i guess.
00:31.59Amarandeand archaeology
00:32.18Amarandeand have you ever noticed that mogu sites seem to pop fairly rarely, while the daily asking for mogu pieces happens all the time? :)
00:33.34JunkHeadif you try to do EVERY daily.... you'll burn out.
00:33.36JunkHeadDont try it.
00:35.14Amarandeheh, if you try to do every daily, you'll probably never even make it far enough in Pandaria to unlock all the dailies on every character who gets there anyway
00:35.25Amarandebecause you'll be so busy with dailies that you never have time to work on the next zone LOL
00:38.33blademeldbutts
00:38.43blademelddailies suck
00:38.49blademeldbutt rep
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01:47.02Stormscapeu wa shox
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02:11.22TecnoBrat"THEY BANNNED ME FOR NO REASON UNBAN ME OR I WILL SU!" <= Amazing.
02:12.19StormscapeApparently Russian soldiers don't use socks.
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02:19.59TecnoBratHes going to su me .. so "su - mumbleboxes"?
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02:47.00ArideniHrm...
02:48.09ArideniIf I paid the $25 fee to transfer my warrior to a new server to be the tank for some friends, and the new server was unplayable due to lag, would they allow me to transfer back (refund or not?)?
02:49.30ArideniMy old guild wants me to return as their offtank, but they have switched to Horde on Malganis while I'm still Alliance on Illidan. Illidan is on the Chicago datacenter and Malganis is in NY...I'm about the same from either one I guess and it seems like both servers are about the same.
02:49.38ArideniI'm scared though...
02:50.00fewynboth realms have terrible lag in the main cities and hubs
02:50.15fewynhorde on malganis is esp going to be bad
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02:50.30ArideniWhy do you say that?
02:50.56fewynmalganis is one of the super high pop horde realms
02:51.01fewynsame as illidan horde
02:51.05ArideniAh.
02:51.21ArideniI can handle Illidan, just wanna make sure I'm not going from bad to worse.
02:51.26fewyni don't know if yo ever spent time on illidan horde
02:51.29Stormscape>Illidan Alliance
02:51.30Stormscapeu wot
02:51.30fewynbut it's horrible
02:51.31fewynin org
02:51.45fewynyeah i don't know how you managed to play as alliance on illidan
02:51.46fewyntbqh
02:52.20Aridenilol :) yep since toon 1 day 1
02:52.42StormscapeHow
02:52.47Aridenibut no one I know even plays there anymore...and the Alliance are jerks there anyway
02:52.47StormscapeNo really, how
02:53.03Aridenihahahha for like 2 min between crashes the whole month of January
02:53.17Arideniwhen what 1.3 came out
02:53.19AmarandeYeah, Mal'Ganis rates to be worse, probably
02:53.20fewynno i meant how do you get anything done as alliance on illidan
02:53.36StormscapeThere's like
02:53.39fewyneveryone i know on illidan kills alliance on site
02:53.39Stormscape3 Alliance on Illidan
02:53.45AmarandeNot only is Mal'Ganis one of the ultra high pop realms, but as I recall looking at server pop surveys, on top of this it has THE most unbalanced Horde ratio in the game
02:53.47fewyni guess one of them is Arideni
02:54.09AmarandeHell, SW on Mal'Ganis is probably less laggy than SW on a medium pop realm ROFL
02:54.18fewyni used to be on illidan as horde
02:54.22StormscapeIllidan is actually down to a 1:0 population ratio
02:54.29StormscapeThere's 100 total Alliance left
02:54.43ArideniOh, wow!
02:54.46AmarandeThere's nearly twice as much Alliance on Illidan as on Mal'Ganis
02:55.07ArideniThat doesn't sound fun tbh :/
02:55.10Amarandeaccording to realmpop: Mal'Ganis - 6918 Alliance - 108,706 Horde (0.064)
02:55.18fewynlol
02:55.22AmarandeIllidan - 12,415 Alliance - 153,047 Horde (0.081)
02:55.26Stormscapedid you narrow it down to just 85+?
02:55.32Stormscapecause tbf 1-84 doesn't count
02:55.41Amarandethat's the full-monty ratio, I believe
02:55.43Stormscapethose are usually alt
02:56.42Amarandehm, changing the levels slider doesn't seem to affect the numbers lists
02:56.49ArideniYou weren't from uh Mortis Consortium were you haha
02:57.20AmarandeIt's interesting that the A:H ratio never gets that large in favour of Alliance, too
02:57.40Amarandeespecially since there's generally slightly more Alliance when you take WoW as a whole
02:57.40Stormscapeokay Illidan is 64,455 Horde to 2495 Alliance for 85+
02:57.51Stormscape136 of those Alliance are 90.
02:57.53Stormscape136 total.
02:57.56StormscapeConsider that.
02:58.02StormscapeArideni, you are literally 1% of your faction.
02:58.04ArideniAnd Malganis?
02:58.30AmarandeThe most skewed Alliance servers are Stormrage (PvE, 8.726 Alliance per 1 Horde) and Kel'Thuzad (PvP, 6.015 Alliance per 1 Horde)
02:58.32Stormscape236 90 Alliance on MalGanis
02:58.35Stormscapeliterally double!
02:58.49AmarandeMeanwhile, Mal'Ganis and Illidan have a greater than 10:1 Horde to Alliance ratio
02:58.56Stormscapeand only 14,904 90 Horde
02:59.20Amarandeyet, like I just noted, taking WoW as a whole, there's usually a slight majority of Alliance characters
03:00.05StormscapeIf you look at PvE realms only, Alliance are a clear majority
03:00.06Stormscape60/40
03:00.24Stormscapeand if you furthur narrow it down to non-RP realms only, 63/37
03:00.41Amarandeinterestingly, there's a largish "unknown" wedge
03:00.52Amarandelemme guess ... Pandaren who have reached level 10 but not yet completed Wandering Isle?
03:00.59Stormscapejust filter that out by increasing level range min from 1 to 10
03:01.31Stormscapeactually, just increase it to 1
03:01.43Amarandeexcept there's a fairly large unknown wedge for race too that pretty much entirely matches all the other unknown wedges
03:01.44Stormscapethere's some sort of bug with their collection datas
03:02.09Amarandeyeah, there's gotta be
03:02.16Amarandekeeping in mind that WoW has an eight-digit subscriber base
03:02.22Amarandeyet only 1.5 million characters are level 90?
03:03.12Amarandepretty sure 1) MoP sales weren't that bad :) 2) eight-digit subscriber base means probably what, something nigh on 100 million characters? only a slight bit over 1% of them hit max level?
03:03.24Amarandeif that was the case, I'd be doing a lot better of a job selling lower level mats on the AH :p
03:04.08AmarandeBTW, what are the population threshold levels for servers to be considered "low", "medium", and "high"?
03:05.38Amarandealso, are the website and Android app accurate in terms of realm pop levels?
03:06.05Amarande(I know the Android app has its inaccuracies ... I missed a guild meeting last weekend because I checked the app to doublecheck when it was and it gave the wrong date/time :|)
03:06.47kullervo"high" - you might see over 10 people at once in Orgrimmar
03:06.58kullervo"low" - you won't see anyone ever
03:09.52AmarandeI'm just wondering if it's really true that Ysera has become a high pop server like the app and WoW site claim
03:10.20Amarandeunfortunately, the status is not visible in game anymore because it's currently the PvE "new players" magnet server, and that status conceals the population level in the in-game list :|
03:11.14Amarandewhich is actually quite interesting, because the usual norm seems to be for Blizzard to make the magnet servers be low or low/medium
03:11.29Amarandemaybe they've finally figured out what the forum folks were ribbing them about over that :)
03:13.58Amarandearound the time MoP came out (which was the last time I really read the Blizzard forums much, as I was trying to figure out wtf was wrong with Battle for Gilneas) I remember there were a bunch of posters pretty much indicating Blizzard, intentionally or not, preyed on new players by choosing the new players servers as they had
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03:18.32Amarande(Basically, the observation was that by and large, the servers chosen as such tended to be rather prospect-poor for max level characters, with the result that an actual new player choosing the server would level up, hit the max, discover the lack of prospects, need a new server, and either have to abandon the results of a month or two of subscription to reroll, or fork over the 25 bucks to transfer)
04:08.39Arideniinteresting
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17:46.02Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] 5.2 PTR: Spirit Beasts, Item Upgrades, Revised Set Bonuses - http://www.wowhead.com/news=209980/5-2-ptr-spirit-beasts-item-upgrades-revised-set-bonuses
17:51.02Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] 5.2 PTR: Spirit Beasts, Item Upgrade Hiatus, Revised T15 Set Bonuses - http://www.wowhead.com/news=209980/5-2-ptr-spirit-beasts-item-upgrade-hiatus-revised-t15-set-bonuses
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18:57.47fewynhrm servers aren't up yet
18:59.09JunkHeadyou should sue.
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19:01.09fewyni'm gonna su
19:01.54fewynREDDIT STOP BEING UNDER HEAVY LOAD
19:03.06hylje_4chan thumbnails are frosty as well
19:03.13hylje_is it a conspiracy to force nerds to not procrastinate
19:05.10JunkHeadI hate that Chardev is down.:\
19:08.41JunkHeadservers up.
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22:50.52b4k4^^:D
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