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02:57.56 | Salash | hello everyone |
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03:42.55 | blademeld | TecnoBrat Domh balls |
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03:44.20 | Domh | wat |
03:45.14 | blademeld | balls |
03:45.16 | blademeld | balls |
03:45.21 | blademeld | hey fewyn |
03:47.19 | fewyn | blademeld |
03:47.20 | fewyn | hey |
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05:50.27 | Facebookuser | Hi People |
05:50.34 | Facebookuser | http://apps.facebook.com/gameclubflashgames/http://apps.facebook.com/gameclubflashgames/ |
05:50.35 | Facebookuser | http://apps.facebook.com/gameclubflashgames/ |
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05:50.52 | Mr_Rabies | fewyn TecnoBrat |
05:51.05 | Mr_Rabies | ^ |
05:52.18 | Mr_Rabies | ban that dude, he'll be back i'm sure |
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12:32.47 | JunkHead | my shaman got shoulders from lfr last night.:D |
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14:31.33 | fewyn | so a bunch of my friends decided to come back to wow recently and rolled/transfered to horde aerie peak, this place is a ghost toooown |
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14:43.24 | WardHL | a lot of realms are |
14:43.45 | WardHL | and with all this crossrealm business, blizz won´t merge many realms anymore |
14:44.03 | WardHL | if you´re rerolling, just pick the busiest server in your region |
14:45.29 | fewyn | i think they want to play on aerie peak to mess with a friend who raids alliance side |
14:45.38 | fewyn | i don't mind if it's a ghost town |
14:45.47 | fewyn | i can play the auction house game and RULE THE SERVER |
14:46.36 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/aerie-peak/Fewyn/advanced |
14:46.46 | fewyn | leveling prot |
14:46.49 | fewyn | because |
14:46.49 | fewyn | WHY NOT |
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15:07.13 | JunkHead | I wish a bunch of my friends would come back to wow. |
15:07.22 | JunkHead | :( |
15:07.46 | rovven | from nerro? |
15:07.54 | rovven | you owned |
15:07.56 | rovven | :))))))) |
15:13.15 | rovven | face bored peeeep) |
15:13.18 | rovven | bb |
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15:15.01 | JunkHead | What an odd person. |
15:17.56 | WardHL | either I´m really bad at feral dps |
15:17.59 | WardHL | or feral dps sucks |
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15:30.48 | JunkPhone | so i had to move from my desk. |
15:32.46 | Ward | I have played many specs on many classes over the years |
15:32.57 | Ward | but never have I encountered something as challenging as feral dps |
15:33.39 | Ward | between the ambiguous stat priorities, the odd gearing, the finger breaking rotations, not to mention managing bleeds and rolling buffs and debuffs constantly during every fight |
15:33.52 | hylje | are you playing tbc |
15:33.58 | Ward | no |
15:34.08 | Ward | do you play a feral druid? |
15:34.09 | hylje | cata ferals were straightforward as fuck, did they go back there? |
15:34.18 | Ward | oh cata was easy |
15:34.20 | Ward | rogue simple mode |
15:34.24 | Ward | they totally made it weird |
15:34.30 | Ward | in MoP |
15:34.33 | hylje | welp |
15:34.56 | Ward | for instance, hit caps and expertise caps, are pretty much irrelevant |
15:35.01 | Ward | since misses refund energy |
15:35.10 | Ward | to such an extend it´s actually good for dps to miss |
15:35.12 | Ward | ocassionally |
15:35.17 | Ward | but how often you might ask |
15:35.21 | Ward | here the maths get tricky |
15:35.43 | Ward | cause there seems to be no internal mechanism that limits energy the energy regained |
15:36.11 | Ward | so the limiting factor becomes how fast you can dump energy into abilities |
15:36.28 | Ward | without ofcourse missing so much that you overflow on energy, cause that´d be a waste |
15:36.29 | JunkHead | I have a bear druid. It's only lvl 86. Tanking seems easy. |
15:36.36 | Ward | yeah bears are straightforward |
15:36.46 | hylje | i haven't played mop :( |
15:36.52 | JunkHead | I never liked cat druid though |
15:37.00 | fewyn | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100112175433/wowwiki/images/7/71/Catdps.jpg |
15:37.02 | Ward | I level my druid feral/resto |
15:37.02 | JunkHead | I played a tiny bit of boomkin in wotlk |
15:37.05 | JunkHead | it was fun. |
15:37.08 | Ward | cat for questing |
15:37.11 | Ward | that was excellent |
15:37.16 | Ward | ofcourse nobody cares about dps then |
15:37.22 | JunkHead | But I'll be honest, I'm lazy. I like things simple as shit. |
15:37.29 | hylje | i liked in cata that you could bear and cat adequately with the same talents and gear |
15:37.40 | Ward | JOHN FUCKING MADDEN |
15:37.41 | JunkHead | I liked moonkin before the eclipse meter. |
15:37.45 | Ward | and that image is pre-MOP |
15:37.54 | Ward | I tried moonkin for a while |
15:38.00 | JunkHead | the eclipse meter didn't change much... |
15:38.06 | JunkHead | But blah |
15:38.07 | Ward | didn´t enjoy it |
15:38.26 | fewyn | i think the only class i haven't seriously played over the years is shaman |
15:38.27 | Ward | yeah in Cata my druid was basically triple roled/geared |
15:38.38 | JunkHead | ele shaman is fun. always has been. |
15:38.39 | Ward | I had my main resto spec, but when needed, I could tank or dps with my offspec |
15:38.39 | fewyn | not including monk since it's new |
15:38.53 | Ward | elemental is the most fun you can have as ranged dps |
15:38.58 | JunkHead | yeah |
15:39.00 | hylje | just stacking crit and mastery made you both a great dps and a good tank |
15:39.07 | Ward | also resto shaman is excellent |
15:39.20 | Ward | if I could class change my main, I´d class change to shaman |
15:39.21 | JunkHead | i like how, with ele, if you have a lot of haste, it just LOOKS awesome |
15:39.26 | Ward | have 2 excellent specs, 1 gearset |
15:39.31 | JunkHead | even if your dps sucks, OMGW HOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH |
15:39.35 | Ward | yeah |
15:39.42 | Ward | fuck your recount, I´m playing with lightning here |
15:39.46 | JunkHead | so fun watching 5-6 spells shoot out in 1-2 seconds |
15:39.49 | JunkHead | yeah |
15:40.01 | JunkHead | it makes you feel like youre doing good. |
15:40.02 | Ward | feral looks boring as fuck |
15:40.08 | Ward | kitty cat paws you |
15:40.12 | JunkHead | my hunter right now... i like hunters and all. |
15:40.15 | JunkHead | but damn. |
15:40.19 | hylje | pawsssss |
15:40.21 | Ward | there´s no animations per ability |
15:40.23 | JunkHead | just too many buttons on my bars |
15:40.44 | hylje | i also liked that forum thread "show off your feral gear" |
15:40.48 | Ward | yeah as a hunter you gotta triage abilities |
15:41.13 | JunkHead | I actually just releazed yesterday, I was missing 2 skills from my bars |
15:41.24 | JunkHead | stampede, and... the one that resets cooldowns |
15:42.41 | JunkHead | I could get rid of a few buttons though. |
15:42.59 | Ward | http://www.noxxic.com/wow/pve/druid/feral/dps-rotation-and-cooldowns |
15:43.07 | Ward | healing touch |
15:43.09 | Ward | that makes sense |
15:43.23 | Ward | I´m speccing out of dream of cenarius |
15:43.27 | Ward | cause that shit is just too silly |
15:43.32 | JunkHead | isnt frost mage still pretty easy |
15:43.37 | hylje | hahaha |
15:43.44 | JunkHead | mainly frostbolt spam but hit procs as they pop up? |
15:43.50 | Ward | yeah frost is easy |
15:43.52 | Ward | and decent dps |
15:43.55 | Ward | frost is the new arcane |
15:43.56 | Ward | pewpewpew |
15:44.03 | hylje | is arcane no more 11111111 |
15:44.05 | JunkHead | i always played frost and arcane |
15:44.11 | JunkHead | i've never played fire.:\ |
15:44.13 | Ward | arcane now has trickier mana management |
15:44.19 | JunkHead | Locks confuse me. |
15:44.21 | JunkHead | I hate locks. |
15:44.24 | Ward | I play fire now, it´s the most fun, but least dps in theory |
15:44.28 | JunkHead | My lock is now my bank alt |
15:44.38 | JunkHead | Because It will be my last 90 |
15:44.41 | Ward | fire has mobility dps, which usually means you crush it on recount |
15:45.44 | JunkHead | I also had fun with ret pally. |
15:46.09 | JunkHead | She was 85, so i geared here with a lot of MoP greens, BoA, and whatever I could find to make her leveling easy as crap. |
15:46.18 | JunkHead | Stacked ehr with haste, and just burned through everything. |
15:46.22 | JunkHead | was super fun. |
15:46.25 | JunkHead | she's 87 now. |
15:46.36 | Ward | I have my shaman at 87 |
15:46.40 | Ward | gonna be my 3rd 90 |
15:46.53 | JunkHead | paladin will be my 4th once i work on her some more. |
15:46.56 | Ward | got a bit bored of questing, so I just do dungeons now |
15:47.19 | JunkHead | I'm burned out at everythign on my warrior. |
15:47.30 | JunkHead | and my shaman just started LFR ilvl stuff |
15:47.38 | JunkHead | hunter.... still pushing to get to lfr level. |
15:47.50 | Ward | my mage, that I don´t raid on, just do LFRs |
15:47.56 | Ward | has 490 ilevel now |
15:48.01 | Ward | meanwhile on my druid, nothing will drop |
15:48.04 | JunkHead | well, LFR is my raiding for now. |
15:48.06 | JunkHead | No guild. |
15:48.21 | Ward | I cleared msv and hof normal last night with my guild |
15:48.29 | Ward | and we did terrace on wednesday |
15:48.33 | Ward | not a single upgrade |
15:48.37 | JunkHead | My warrior could easily go to normal modes. |
15:48.46 | JunkHead | but i dont even try. |
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15:49.14 | JunkHead | I'd like to get my hunter up to lfr, but her ilvl is 455. |
15:49.20 | JunkHead | i ran 15 heroics yesterday. |
15:49.23 | JunkHead | I got a new chest. |
15:49.29 | JunkHead | But that's it.:\ |
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18:02.02 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] 5.2 PTR: Isle of Giants Video, Transmog Restrictions Changed - http://www.wowhead.com/news=209657/5-2-ptr-isle-of-giants-video-transmog-restrictions-changed |
18:04.27 | fewyn | http://store.steampowered.com/ nothing interesting enough to want to buy today |
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18:23.47 | JunkHead | yay back at my desk! |
18:23.53 | JunkHead | with a new radio console! |
18:32.15 | fewyn | being able to transmog weapon types will be awesome |
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20:01.14 | Ward | arcane is confusing me |
20:01.22 | Ward | guides are telling me to not gem any int |
20:01.25 | Djones_ | Hehe |
20:01.26 | Djones_ | Yes |
20:01.31 | Djones_ | Well, kinda. |
20:01.32 | Ward | but elitist jerks has no mage thread |
20:01.41 | Ward | arcane thread I mean |
20:02.00 | Ward | further on in the guide the stat prios put int first |
20:02.17 | Djones_ | Mastery so good |
20:02.23 | Djones_ | It's the same for warlocks |
20:02.28 | Ward | it´s just weird |
20:02.33 | Djones_ | the thing with casters at the moment seems to be when you get about 480+ |
20:02.41 | Djones_ | the raw mastery is better than actual int |
20:02.42 | Ward | also apparently the best dps is with the rune |
20:02.47 | Djones_ | Yup |
20:02.50 | Djones_ | As long as you can stand still |
20:02.53 | Ward | yeah my mage hit 490 gear today |
20:03.06 | Ward | been using fire since I started raiding |
20:03.10 | Djones_ | ew fire :p |
20:03.11 | Ward | but lately it can´t keep up anymore |
20:03.18 | Djones_ | Invokers is great for garalon |
20:03.23 | Ward | it was imba when everyone was at 470 gear |
20:03.35 | Djones_ | Hilariously it didn't even match frost then |
20:03.45 | Ward | frost is the #2 atm |
20:03.45 | Djones_ | It's just that nobody knew/knows how to play frost properly when this tier hit |
20:03.54 | Djones_ | Yeah, arcane got buffed to hell and back in 5.1 |
20:04.09 | Ward | yeah I know, but I stuck to fire since I was mostly raiding on my druid anyway |
20:04.44 | Ward | you know my druid is resto, and I have never had to respec my resto tree |
20:04.45 | Ward | ever |
20:05.17 | Ward | any time they changed the talents so much that it was actually needed, like with a pre-expansion patch |
20:05.20 | Ward | they´d reset it for free |
20:05.28 | Djones_ | Heh |
20:05.48 | Djones_ | I have something ridiuculous like 300 respecs on the priest |
20:05.56 | Ward | oh my mage I respec almost monthly |
20:06.09 | Ward | I played this mage vanilla, so before dual spec I´d change twice a week |
20:06.12 | Ward | to do pve and pvp |
20:06.28 | Ward | ok so here it goes |
20:06.29 | Djones_ | You are nether tempesting, right? |
20:06.31 | Ward | cutting mastery gems |
20:06.44 | Ward | not sure yet |
20:06.48 | Ward | either that or living bomb |
20:06.53 | Djones_ | Nether tempest |
20:06.53 | Djones_ | like |
20:06.56 | Djones_ | for everything |
20:06.59 | Ward | noxxic says living bomb, rawr data says living bomb |
20:06.59 | Djones_ | except stone guards |
20:07.05 | Djones_ | Nether tempest pisses all OVER EVERYTHING |
20:07.26 | Djones_ | (also look at log parses, you won't see anyone in the top 200 without it) |
20:07.47 | Ward | ok |
20:07.54 | Ward | so what does that do to the rotation |
20:08.14 | Djones_ | In what ways? |
20:08.28 | Ward | I mean for aoe |
20:08.32 | Ward | I had fireblast glyphed |
20:08.34 | Ward | to spread bomb |
20:08.35 | Djones_ | Oh, aoe is much more complicated |
20:08.46 | Djones_ | living bomb for 3-4 targets, frost bomb for 5+ |
20:08.50 | Ward | ok |
20:09.08 | Ward | time to read that glyph again, never used it with tempest |
20:09.52 | Ward | ok so I got my arcane spec for single target fights now |
20:10.09 | Ward | guardians is the only fight where my old fire spec still topped the meter |
20:10.17 | Djones_ | Yah |
20:10.27 | Ward | guess I can respec for it |
20:10.38 | Ward | just gonna be crappy playing fire without all my crit gear |
20:11.02 | Ward | they should make a new tab in gear, called setup, where you can put gems/enchants/reforges per spec :p |
20:11.07 | Ward | and swop em out with talents |
20:11.39 | Ward | I´ve never used green gems before |
20:11.41 | Ward | feels weird |
20:13.25 | Djones_ | Hehe |
20:14.46 | Ward | ok now to reforge |
20:15.02 | Ward | hit to 15, then haste to breakpoint, then mastery |
20:16.27 | Djones_ | ALL THE MASTERY. |
20:16.46 | Ward | no haste? |
20:17.10 | Ward | you know this is still easier than a feral druid |
20:17.14 | Ward | with the damn miss bonus |
20:17.54 | Djones_ | You need around 3k haste or so |
20:17.57 | Djones_ | but if you don't have 3k haste |
20:18.02 | Djones_ | even with reforging it all off, at 490 |
20:18.07 | Ward | heh |
20:18.09 | Djones_ | you have been rolling need on the wrong gear, and should feel bad |
20:18.13 | Ward | I just reforged to 4200 haste |
20:18.16 | Ward | guess that´s overkill |
20:18.19 | Djones_ | Yes |
20:18.20 | Djones_ | Yes it is. |
20:18.30 | Djones_ | 3056, apparently. |
20:18.33 | Ward | oh |
20:18.35 | Ward | well |
20:18.37 | Ward | that changes things |
20:18.41 | Ward | good thing I have reforge lite |
20:22.01 | Ward | hmm |
20:22.04 | Ward | 3300 |
20:22.06 | Ward | still to high |
20:22.10 | Djones_ | Yap |
20:22.18 | Djones_ | Tbh |
20:22.24 | Djones_ | I know some people who just go full mastery all the time |
20:22.34 | Ward | 3081 |
20:22.36 | Djones_ | also rawr is HORRIBLE now |
20:22.40 | Djones_ | Simcraft |
20:22.43 | Djones_ | 3081 works |
20:22.46 | Ward | gonna stick with 3081 |
20:23.00 | Ward | 40% mastery |
20:23.04 | Ward | hit capped |
20:23.05 | Djones_ | Not bad. |
20:23.11 | Ward | yeah should do just fine |
20:23.13 | Djones_ | Go do 150k on elegon |
20:23.27 | Ward | gonna LFR for practice |
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20:23.31 | Ward | my AB spam skills are rusty |
20:25.36 | Djones_ | The reason why rune is hella good btw |
20:25.41 | Djones_ | Is because you stack the crap outa mastery |
20:25.47 | Djones_ | And rune keeps you at about 100% about 100% of the time. |
20:25.57 | Ward | so I should never use barrage? |
20:26.04 | Djones_ | That I don't know |
20:26.15 | Djones_ | Or rather |
20:26.16 | Ward | forums and guides say scorch |
20:26.47 | Djones_ | What. |
20:27.06 | Djones_ | Of course you use Barrage, but mostly because ab spam doesn't exactly sustain infinite mana, but missiles is awesome |
20:27.19 | Djones_ | You use barrage to manage mana, not necessarily dps on the move. |
20:27.55 | Ward | http://www.noxxic.com/wow/pve/mage/arcane/dps-rotation-and-cooldowns |
20:28.06 | Ward | it also assumed you use living bomb for single target though |
20:28.17 | Djones_ | noxxic |
20:28.18 | Djones_ | is like |
20:28.22 | Djones_ | so bad |
20:28.26 | Djones_ | I don't even. |
20:28.57 | Ward | yeah so far I´ve done everything noxxic didn´t do |
20:29.04 | Ward | except put mastery on my gloves |
20:29.07 | Ward | noxxic was right about that |
20:29.32 | Ward | hmm |
20:29.36 | Ward | grace of air totem in this LFR |
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20:29.55 | Djones_ | Noxxic has the priest rotation so very wrong. |
20:30.14 | Djones_ | Or rather, all it does is list priority system |
20:30.24 | Djones_ | with absolutely no information about how to make that work |
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21:24.01 | fewyn | i remember pulling baron geddon into garr's room in molten core in vanilla... anyone remember WHY we did that? |
21:26.18 | Djones_ | the knock up? |
21:26.38 | fewyn | hrm |
21:26.40 | fewyn | maybe |
21:27.12 | fewyn | oh my god |
21:27.16 | fewyn | left half of bindings |
21:27.33 | fewyn | now i actually have to run molten core |
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