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21:54.01Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Battle.net World Championship this Weekend - http://www.wowhead.com/news=208340/battle-net-world-championship-this-weekend
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22:02.34janehow do you figure out if it's worthwhile to start reaching for the next haste cap..
22:02.42SprowSp 1.8 cr atm lfg x-realm rbg
22:03.29Amarandejane: does haste even work that way?
22:03.32Amarandelike "next cap" I mean
22:03.46Amarandethat makes it sound like it's got discrete breakpoints, like IAS and FCR in the Diablo 2 days
22:03.47janefor some classes/specs yes
22:03.52janeresto shaman, mainly
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22:04.08Amarandeor is it more the "cap with/without heroism" factor?
22:04.17janeim at 12.5% plus a little extra right now, 25% is reachable only with reforges for me and it adds another tick of riptide
22:04.27janeand im not sure losing that mastery is going to be worth it
22:04.42janeyou dont count lust for haste caps
22:04.49AmarandeI originally thought of going resto on my shaman and decided to go ellie instead
22:05.05janeright now im goblin with ancestral swiftness (adds more haste) and in 25s we always have the 5% haste buff
22:05.12AmarandeI'm guessing you do consider the cap with/without there being the spell haste buff present in the raid, though
22:05.24Amarandeunless of course you are a boomkin/ellie/shadowie yourself
22:06.48janewe have half a dozen of those
22:07.14janebut im mostly wondering if an extra tick of riptide matters
22:07.25janeim surprised i can reach that with only a handful of gems and reforges
22:09.10janecurious, reforging that way adds more spirit too
22:09.25janejust dumping a fuckton of mastery, which provesto be useful on tanks during progression though ><
22:09.45janeoh im also losing 600 intellect that way. urgh
22:10.26JunkHeadhey fewyn, what's considered the best rogue spec now?
22:10.47janei think its combat and assassination
22:11.09JunkHeadI've always been combta because it was pretty easy.
22:11.21JunkHeadcombat*
22:13.50fewynsub is supposedly best dps
22:13.54fewyntheoretically
22:13.57fewyni suck at sub
22:14.00fewynand i hate combat
22:15.11janesub? o.O
22:15.14JunkHeadalso another question for anyone here....
22:15.20JunkHeadmy friend wants to level her lock.
22:15.24JunkHeadfrom 85 to 90
22:15.30JunkHeadwhat class would complement that?
22:15.42janea good dps that isnt a clothie
22:15.52JunkHeadhmm...
22:16.08JunkHeadwhat about a boomkin?
22:17.05janesounds good to me
22:21.12janei was mostly thinking you could faux tank as a lock and stuff dies faster with two dps :P
22:23.00fewyni played with a voidlord from 85-90 on my warlock
22:26.17Amarandebtw, how frequent is the spell haste buff in LFR's?
22:26.56janeyou'rep retty much guaranteed to get every raid buff in lfr
22:27.05Amarande(keep in mind that all three specs that can bring it are all DPS specs on a class that can heal or even both heal and tank, which is why I wonder, since you'd think druids, shamans, and priests would be inclined to queue as whichever role gives fastest queues, which is likely *not* DPS)
22:27.34fewynas long as you're not all druids or monks or paladins you should bring all the buffs to the yard
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22:28.30janeactually the last two weeks ive been queueing as heals/dps and getting in as dps
22:28.34janeand healing is typically the fast queue
22:29.26janeand you dont always want to do one of those roles, or get gear for it, sooo
22:29.41janeor you queue with friends/guildies that will get you faster queues
22:30.02janeend of story with 25 people you usually get most if not all raid buffs, and it doesnt even matter anyway cause its lfr
22:35.27JunkHeadI was actually considering healing on my shaman.
22:35.55JunkHeadi've been ele since mop started. haven't even switched spec.
22:36.05JunkHeadalthough my second spec is resto from cata
22:36.27JunkHeadhealing in mop looks pretty intense though.
22:36.32janeit hasn't changed much
22:36.33JunkHeadlots of aoe damage it seems.
22:36.39JunkHeadi be skurred
22:36.43janemeh, so was DS
22:36.53janeand firelands for that matter
22:36.55JunkHeadi didn't heal any raids in cata
22:37.23JunkHeadalso, i meant more or less 5 mans.
22:37.36JunkHeadraids would be.... a little farther down the road.
22:38.25janeoh
22:38.31janehealing rain and chain heal spam :D
22:39.08janeor do what i do drop healing stream and afk
22:40.14JunkHeadany certain bosses off the top of your head particularly tough?
22:41.19janethe whirlwind guy in scarlet halls, if your tank/dps cant avoid it
22:41.31janealthough tbh even today i acnt really heal through that most of the time
22:42.20janei dont think anything is particularly hard. worst case you just have to do some things like dispel timely (last boss in jade serpent)
22:42.27janeand if your tank sucks or you pull too much trash, that hurts
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22:43.17Amarandeah, scarlet halls, the half of SM I never visit anymore
22:43.26Amarande'course, I'm not yet 90 so I'm not stuck with it on randoms yet
22:43.41Amarandethe only reason I go to scarlet is when I need lots of silk cloth, mainly.
22:43.51janereally healing is easy, and shaman aoe is strong
22:44.03Amarandeand in that case, SM goes quickly and easily, while SH slows down horribly because even at 85 doing it on normal? you still have to do all the gimmicks
22:44.22Amarandelike having to grab an archery target as a shield, because otherwise you just keep getting thrown back, and too far to kill the mobs from a distance
22:44.37Amarandeand having to wait for the dogs to eat the dog guy after his HP hits 0
22:44.39JunkHeadif you ask me, the new scarlet instances are awesome.
22:44.50Amarandeyeah, SM is just a lot more efficient to farm repeatedly than SH
22:45.26janeyou dont have scarlet halls until 90
22:45.43JunkHeadBoth are fun to run now. except for that hallway with the cannons is annoying.
22:45.48JunkHeadnot hard at all... justa nnoying.
22:48.16janescarlet monastery sucks to heal
22:48.46janeoh there you go. if you have dumb dps or tank, scarlet monastery trash.
22:49.27janethe courtyard area with those mobs, i once had a group that had low dps across the board that "accidentally" pulled this or that
22:49.35janei had like a 15 minute trash encounter according to skada
22:49.38janewhere i outhealed all the dps
22:49.47janewell, out hps'd the dps being put out
22:50.04janeif i ever get that as call to arms i just drop group, not worth it
22:50.14janehealing cooldowns on trash is just wrong
22:51.57Sprow1.8k cr shadwo priest lf RBG x-realm
22:57.22JunkHeadI'll say my least favorite 5 man...
22:57.27JunkHeadStormstout Brewery.
22:57.33JunkHeaduuuuuuuuuuuuugh
22:58.22JunkHeadBut I finally got the tanking ring for my warrior from there.
22:58.30JunkHeadSo I don't need to go there anymore.
22:58.40JunkHeadWhich mean I will still get it as my random every single time.
22:59.05AmarandeWelcome to The Oculus (Heroic). Your instance lock will expire in 13 hours 32 minutes 10 seconds ...
22:59.10janegood luck
22:59.36Amarandeheh, I actually LIKED oculus, though
22:59.41Amarandedon't know what people were smoking to hate it
23:00.09janenobody listens to what to do and where to go
23:01.08AmarandeI suppose there's the lovely drake choice combos you can end up with when people are trying to get their achieves, too
23:01.20Amarande"what do you mean we have five emerald drakes"
23:02.15janeits doable with any combination, you just have to know what to do
23:04.20Amarandealso, 5.1 is going to be awesome
23:04.37Amarandeyay, no more having to look around in guild for someone who isn't busy just to drag them into a group so you can enter kara
23:04.42Amarandeone can now just walk into kara
23:04.53Amarandeand molten core, for that matter
23:05.09Amarandeall the lovely places where you need to go to get stuff to finish out a completist engineer's recipe list
23:05.28Amarandenot that it needs to come out totally quickly now, since my gaming pc is dead. :(
23:05.46ElysaI still need to ride a ruby drake to finish the experienced rider achievement
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