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14:35.12TaerinaHow can I make Wowhead notice that my character has changed realm? I want to resync it, but it can't since it tries to resync to the old realm.
14:41.48fewynyou have to goto the profile page of the new character
14:41.59fewynand remove the old one from your profile
14:43.17TaerinaI have removed it from my profile, but when I search for it it's still the old one that comes up.
14:46.37TaerinaOoh, got it to work now. :)
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17:09.54Eraclitoboooring, what the heck
17:10.11Eraclitoi joined pet battles, i met the same guy like 5 times in a row
17:10.44fewynlol
17:10.47Eraclitocockroach, magical crawdad, onyxian thingie
17:10.57EraclitoAPOCALYPSE (or what it's name in english)
17:11.02Eraclitothen crawdad, spam self heal
17:11.10fewyni hate apocalypse
17:11.27Eraclitoit's a boring locking mechanic
17:11.39Eraclitowaiting 15 turns while you use overpowered self heals
17:11.49Eraclitoand i even won once
17:12.40Eraclitowell, i'm somewhat an idiot. i'm trying an almost-all-magic-attacks team
17:12.51Eraclitoa single machine can defeat me, but well, it's funny
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17:14.13Eraclitoi'm also starting to wonder if "your enemy" is a randomly generated npc
17:14.22Eraclitoi got the same team with three different guys
17:14.54Amarandeheh, I love the lampshade in the Apocalypse skill mechanic, though
17:14.59Amarande"cockroaches always survive" :)
17:14.59Eraclitoa male pandaren with starting gear, a forsaken priest using the pvp-recolored t5, a shaman in t6 (don't remember race, maybe draenei)
17:15.21fewyni don't think it is a random npc
17:15.24fewynthey are real people
17:15.27fewynbut blizzard blocks names
17:15.31Eraclitoyes i mean the graphic
17:15.35fewynso they might generate a random graphic tho
17:15.55Eraclitosame team, same tactics, different graphics BUT always nice outfits
17:16.09Eraclitomost people i meet around are still in clownsuits
17:18.15Eraclitooh about clownsuits, i remember a post i wrote some months ago...
17:18.35Amarandeor has roach/crawdad/onyxian become just so FOTM that nobody uses anything else?
17:19.08Eraclitoit's really so much used as combo?
17:19.15Eraclitoi mean, crawdad seems really op
17:19.25Amarandelike those irritating Yata lock decks in Yu-Gi-Oh before they banned the cards you needed to use
17:19.25Eraclito(oh, found! http://forum.wowroleplaygear.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=396 )
17:19.32Eraclitooh god, yata lock
17:19.50Amarandewhich also makes you wonder how they're going to handle balancing, with things having abilities like that
17:19.51Eraclitoyata + sangan/witch + CED
17:20.15AmarandeI'm suspecting either a massive change to pet abilities, or simply a lot of pets very suddenly saying "this pet cannot battle" at least temporarily?
17:20.48Eraclitoi don't think they'll care a lot about pet battles
17:20.58AmarandeI'd suspect "this pet cannot battle" to become common if they do
17:21.05Amarandesince it seems like invariably games like that end up having a ban list :P
17:21.30Amarandeor "your team contains pets that cannot be used in PvP pet battles, please rearrange your pet(s)"
17:21.46Eraclitowould be easier to change some spells
17:21.59Eraclitolike, crawdad's 50% heal is a bit op
17:22.42Eraclitoanyway i'm curious about if and when tournaments will appear
17:22.59Eraclitoi'm sure some site will host some battletag tournament with pet prizes or something
17:23.22Eraclitoand most of the teams will be fotm
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17:48.23Amarandeheh, makes one wonder about the sanity and success of multiplayer game design recently
17:48.55Amarandeback in the day, games were created with basic playing cards and pieces that became balanced well enough that they don't need to be changed more often than every few decades or so, if at all
17:49.29Amarandenow we have games that despite the greater number of rules to provide balance, are less balanced than ever and have to be tweaked multiple times a year, typically though just leaving us with a different imbalance and FOTM
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18:22.02Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] 5.1 Pet Battle Improvements: Battle-Stones, UI Features - http://www.wowhead.com/news=208065/5-1-pet-battle-improvements-battle-stones-ui-features
18:23.29Eraclitoi don't get why "polished battle stones" should exist
18:23.40Eraclitoi mean, everyone will use rare pets anyway
18:23.53Eraclitoand you can use the flawless ones without the need to use a polished first
18:30.47fewynthey are random drops
18:30.51fewynfrom b pet dailies
18:31.21Eraclitoyeah, but i still don't see their purpose
18:31.39Eraclitowell, maybe it's because i ignore grey and white pets
18:32.04fewynsome of the rarer pets are annoying to get rares of
18:32.07fewynlike sporeling scout
18:32.20Eraclitooh, got it, and the infernal, the plagued whelp...
18:32.30Eraclitothe storm peaks fox
18:32.50Eraclitowell i think it took some hours of farming overall
18:32.53fewyni gave up and settled for a white one
18:34.08Eraclitoi don't understand why some pets you learn from a bop item are cageable, while you can't do it with wild pets
18:37.14AmarandeEraclito: mostly what I don't get about that is why the items are still BoP
18:37.43Amarandeor for that matter, why quests that give you a minipet even still give you an *item*, when the item is BoP
18:37.43Eraclitotrue
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18:37.50Amarandeinstead of just depositing it directly to your pet journal
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19:11.18WardAmarande, so you notice it
19:12.15AmarandeI tend to make a point to specifically target those pets that I don't already have a rare of, when I'm wandering through a zone
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19:18.12QuarkInteresting bugs (or "doesn't make sense" things) on trial --or free, as I call them-- accounts: account can receive mail, even if you can't check it; account show pet battle system abilities, yet you can't participate; through dailies you can pass beyond some profession maximum skill levels; through random groups you are never placed on Stockades or BFD, you need to manually pick, hence never getting the "bag" perk. Anyone knows another?
19:19.28QuarkAnother oddity is, if you have the free account under a Battle.NET account that used to have a pay account, you get to use a lot of mounts, and have a lot of pets.
19:19.47QuarkAs they are shared with the trial account.
19:19.50Amarande* Stockades/BFD are probably considered past-trial dungeons since the mobs are really in the mid-20s. I don't think you get that as a random at 20 anyway
19:20.03QuarkBut you can manually pick.
19:20.07QuarkIt doesn't make sense.
19:20.11AmarandeYeah, because you can manually pick those dungeons at 20
19:20.19QuarkI see.
19:20.25AmarandeThat's how it works, most dungeons can be manually chosen a couple levels before they become eligible to be randomly picked
19:21.15AmarandeI think the *usual* rule (there are a few exceptions, mostly at the transitions to BC and Wrath levels), is that it's able to be a random while it's "yellow" in the specific list
19:21.25QuarkGetting honor and Faire points is also a bitch :-)
19:25.18Amarandepretty sure the mounts and pets thing is WAI too, since they're supposed to spread throughout b.net accounts, not just WoW accounts
19:25.30Amarandenote that it's "binds to B.net account" as a rule, never just "binds to account" AFAIK anymore
19:25.43Amarandeif they didn't mean for you to have mounts on a trial max would be 19 not 20
19:26.12Amarandedailies override profession limits? that's odd. you should be able to get to 225, but no higher
19:26.33QuarkNo 225.
19:26.38QuarkMax is 150.
19:26.49QuarkBut on fishing and cooking you can go over.
19:26.51Amarandehm. level 20 allows 225, no?
19:27.02AmarandeI think fishing and cooking have different level requirements for their tiers, too
19:27.02Wardthe caps differ for secondary profs
19:27.06QuarkNot on free accounts.
19:27.08Wardfirst aid, cooking and fishing
19:27.16Amarandealso, sure you don't have a racial perk that gives a bonus to the profession? those raise the cap in addition to the actual level
19:29.58Amarandepet battle abilities, that's perfectly logical to see
19:30.26Amarandethe pet journal showed all the pet battle abilities on pets you had even during 5.0 before MoP came out, even though you weren't able to pet battle until MoP went live
19:30.40Amarande(and I presume it shows it on accounts that don't have MoP bought yet even though it's required for the battles)
19:30.50hyljep7
19:31.01Amarandefinally, as for "receive mail, even if you can't check it"
19:31.08Amarandethat's logical
19:31.25Amarandeconsider, say, the case where your subscription lapses for a couple days (say you're a time card user and had to wait till payday for your next time card)
19:31.58Amarandeyou had auctions up then. if not being able to check mail also made you unable to receive mail, players in that situation would just have to have their gold/unsold item vanish into the ether :)
19:32.05Amarandewould tick off quite a lot of time card users I'm sure
19:33.15Amarandealso probably provoke a lot of unnecessary bug reports from players trying to send mail
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19:58.00Amarandewow, maybe at some future time I should invest in a USB3.0 hard drive
19:58.16Amarandemy present external takes like ... 10-20 minutes or so to back up WoW
19:59.27stufUSB3 or FW800
20:09.52Wardwhy not eSATA
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20:26.01WardI´m raiding on my druid
20:26.03Wardfor the first time
20:26.06WardI have huge mana issues
20:26.10Wardoom halfway through a fight
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20:26.15Wardcan´t conserve for shit
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20:41.06raspyjust did 1600 - /msg jetst0rm xdcc send 63
20:41.06raspy[12:36:45] You create: [Perfectly Cooked Instant Noodles].
20:41.11raspygdi
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21:06.15LibertineLushwhen PTR offers premades, do they start at level 1 or whatever the level cap is atm?
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21:21.10bleeterLibertineLush: it's usually whatever's appropriate for what needs testing.
21:24.19LibertineLushbleeter: so it can be anywhere from 1-90?  is there tendency more towards the higher or lower end?
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21:25.58bleeterLibertineLush: every one I've been on (not many, none recently) when there's been premades have had MAXLEVEL toons. Gear, though, on those toons wasn't all encessarily latest released
21:26.33LibertineLushbleeter: i see.  thanks
21:26.35bleeterhowever, having said that... if they offer premades for 5.1, then I'd be guessing they'll have pretty decent gear on it so people can test the new content
21:26.55bleeter*as many people as possible can test...
21:27.19LibertineLushi'll be on the lookout for it.  would be a nice way to try out new classes without all the work
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21:34.47bleetersorta
21:35.17bleeterbut like with the level granting stuff, can mean that as one's not levelled and learned spells as one goes, can quite easily have no idea what's going on ><
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22:00.57stufapparently there's a bug, i've managed to replicate it twice now, which causes the character to swim through the air with walk speed when taking a taxi
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23:30.44tapiaHi. I'm trying to buy some gliphs at AH with my level 25 warrior, but it seems I can only buy some of them, despite they are level 25 items
23:30.51tapiacan someone tell me why?
23:33.20tapia(please :-) )
23:57.15fewynhttps://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/vote

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