IRC log for #wowhead on 20121007

00:04.24Amarandeand yay, for the first time since cata, it's time to go quest Badlands properly!
00:12.12Paarnabord the rocket?
00:12.19Paarnor walking?
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00:18.25Amarandeaboard the rocket, yeah
00:18.36AmarandeFirst time I tried to do it, it was in 4.0.3 before Cata and it didn't work
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00:36.36raspyhmmm
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01:56.11StormscapeSomehow A52 has a queue tonight even though it didn't have one last night
01:56.14Stormscapeda fuq is this shit
01:56.38Amarandeit's called saturday
01:56.54Stormscape>implying nerds suddenly have lives
02:01.43Amarandebwuh. am I getting the correct impression that in MoP, you're poor until you have a whopping six-digit gold balance?
02:07.46Paarneh
02:07.54Paarnafter I got flying...not sure what you do with gold
02:10.11Amaranderecipes, mainly
02:10.33Amarandeand sending four bags and a 400g starting stipend to each new alt I create, generally (although I skimped and sent my priest only 100g)
02:10.57AmarandeI wonder if we're going to actually see the onyx panther JC mount on the AH at all this expansion
02:11.09Amarandeor if it will have to wait till a later patch or next expansion for a certain reason :p
02:11.37Paarnmotes?
02:11.52AmarandePaarn: more the fact that with all the stuff that goes into one of those mounts
02:12.06Amarandea lot of JCs will decide that even 999999g and change isn't really enough of a price
02:12.52Amarandekeep in mind that the Engineering mounts go for 200k and they take a lot less in the way of mats than the onyx panther does
02:13.34Amarandethe primary thing is all those orbs of mystery
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02:17.45Amarandewow, only 220k median US alliance price for the onyx panther
02:17.51AmarandeI would have expected way higher
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02:45.13raspyhmmm
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03:37.42StormscapeWhenever I see somebody using Glyph of Shadow, I assume they don't actually like their priest.
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03:45.00Eraclitowhy no one of my friends is online when i come back home at 5:30 am of saturday? :<
03:45.41fewynenglish do you speak it
03:47.49Eraclito...well it's 5:45 am... :P mah english ain't so good when i've been awake for more than seventeen hours
03:48.28Eraclito"that's not a good excuse!"
03:48.30Eraclitohttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/20536009/images/1346380940889.jpg
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03:52.45JunkHeadwhy the fuck do I dc every 10 minutes?
03:52.53JunkHeadfrom vent and wow at the same time
03:53.00solidwinganyone on a pve server thats questing? wanna quest with me..58 monk
03:53.43Eraclitosorry, nearest character is 85 :P
03:54.07solidwingyou can just invite me to party on a level 1 i dont care
03:54.12solidwingas long as i get put on a pve server
03:54.27Eraclitoeu or us?
03:55.12solidwingus
03:55.34Eraclitooh sorry, i'm eu (5:55am here)
03:56.40Eraclitoi should have asked it before... actually not many eu people quest at this time of the nig-morning, i gues
03:56.43Eraclito*guess
03:57.10Eraclito(also my english is getting clunkier and clunkier)
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09:14.21neutronimityHow is it possible that a rogue could become immune to my execution sentence? By vanish? wtf.
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11:50.42Wardgot my mage ready for LFR today
11:50.47Wardeven got him hitcapped
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16:08.09fewyndoes auctioneer have a whitelist function?
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16:15.32Paarn<PROTECTED>
16:16.29fewynrandom is random
16:16.48fewynyou could flip a coin 5 times and get heads 4 times out of the 5
16:16.53PaarnI am aware
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16:39.36Amarandeawww at the poor dwarf monk who keeps missing these mobs because the little pit they're on opposite sides of is small enough that I can cast at mobs across the pit
16:39.44Amarande"don'tcha wish your toon was ranged like mine?" :D
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16:41.27kullervoPaarn: mind you, people queuing for specific dungeons will be picked with you
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16:46.02Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Pet Battles: Wild Battle Pets by Zone - http://www.wowhead.com/news=207105/pet-battles-wild-battle-pets-by-zone
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17:00.06fewyn250 casts so far for flying tiger gourami sigh
17:00.48Amarandeanother rolling realm restart. they're nearly daily lately.
17:00.51Amarandeis this a side effect of crz?
17:01.10fewynno
17:01.12Wardit´s a side effect of implementing dozens of new features without testing them enough
17:01.14fewynit's a side effect of hotfixes
17:02.01Amarandeheh. which is sort of strange
17:02.10Amarandethey had the largest beta ever, thanks to the annual pass perks
17:02.37fewynbut did people actually test
17:02.40Amarandeyet, it seems like we've needed more first-month hotfixes needing realm reboots than all the expansions put together (except maybe when vanilla first came out, or maybe BC, I wasn't around for those)
17:02.46fewynnah
17:02.51fewyncata was just as bad
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17:03.55Amarandewell, cata's more understandable, they pretty much redid the entire world
17:04.07Amarandeand the cata beta wasn't all open like mop, to boot
17:04.21Amarandethough, yeah, did people actually test
17:04.30Amarandeor did most annual pass holders just take advantage of the access to D3
17:04.42fewynthat and mess with char creation for pandas
17:05.10JunkHeadok. done with herbalism, alchemy and inscribtion.
17:05.46Amarandeyeah, it's even said by some that the annual pass is why we have so many bugs
17:06.21Amarandethat the future of WoW pretty much ultimately depended on MoP being out before the first crop of year-long contracts ended, bugs or no bugs
17:06.58Amarandealthough really. if it hadn't been out before the annual passes ended, what MMO would people be flocking to anyway? time has shown that WoW has yet to obtain any real true competitor.
17:07.23AmarandeTOR petered out long before it became a question of WoW Annual Passes expiring and people defecting.
17:07.48AmarandeHence why it's being fitted into, as one games article put it, a "microtransacted iron lung"
17:08.15AmarandeHence why I start to wonder if DA3 will be BioWare's last major release of any note, thinking of that and the history of companies that EA has acquired over the years
17:08.49Amarande(and, with luck, DA3 won't be shoved out the door half-finished like Ultima IX.)
17:09.29AmarandeUnfortunately, the evolution of Dragon Age/BioWare and Ultima/Origin feels eerily similar. :(
17:09.29JunkHeadAre WoW conspiracy theories all you ever think about?
17:10.25AmarandeJunk: well, apparently it's been said a major reason we got MoP in early autumn rather than around the holidays like expansions usually hit, was because they wanted to make absolutely sure it was out before the Annual Passes started expiring and people started jumping ship because there was STILL nothing to do but Dragon Soul
17:10.45JunkHeaduh huh
17:10.46JunkHeadyeah
17:11.06Amarandeand given that the number of realm restarts since it's been out suggests that it could have used a bit more testing? :|
17:11.24JunkHeadI just don't really think about that.
17:11.26Amarande(sure, there's cata, but we can give cata more of a pass, since it was an entire world retool)
17:11.38JunkHeadWhy sit around and think about it?
17:11.44JunkHeadOH SHIT!
17:11.52AmarandeAnyway, though
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17:12.02JunkHeadMAYBE THE RESTARTS ARE DUE TO BLIZZARD IMPLEMENTING REAL MONEY AH INTO WOW
17:12.03AmarandeWhat occurred to me is that Blizzard is paranoid of losing WoW subscriptions
17:12.09JunkHeadOMFG!
17:12.43AmarandeExcept, given the MMO market as it is and the fact that TOR (the latest game touted as "hey, WoW, your number is up!" when it was coming out) didn't really succeed ... what would they lose WoW subscriptions TO?
17:13.04JunkHeadWoW will kill itself.
17:13.13JunkHeadWoW is it's own WoW Killer.
17:13.30AmarandeEspecially also considering that the non-online RPG market seems to have been on the wane since MMOs started getting popular.
17:13.53AmarandeBasically, then, business logic suggests: if you're planning a release based around that you're worried about losing customers ...
17:14.05AmarandeDoesn't losing customers usually have to mean there's some serious competition to lose them *to*?
17:14.13fewyntypically
17:14.17fewynbut not really in this case
17:14.21fewynmost of the people i know who quit
17:14.24fewyndon't play mmos anymore
17:14.32Amarandebut what do they play, then?
17:14.41fewynthey play video games
17:14.42JunkHeadI bet some don't even play games.
17:14.43fewynjust not mmos
17:14.48JunkHeadSome play CoD
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17:15.11Amarandehm, RPG to shooter ... not really something I would see as a common switch
17:15.21JunkHeadUh huh.
17:15.23fewynthey probably played cod while playing wow
17:15.24Amarandenor RPG to fast action twitch games in general
17:15.28AmarandeI mean, let's put it this way
17:15.28fewyni play bf3
17:15.30fewynand tf2
17:15.34JunkHeadI play BF3 also.
17:15.37Paarnpeople just like to scream at WoW
17:15.50Paarnand the number of bugs is realtively low
17:15.50AmarandeI tried Devil May Cry 3, for instance, when I found it cheap at the local gaming store
17:16.01Paarnand server restarts compared to hours long maintence and/or downtime
17:16.03AmarandeI didn't get very far in it. There is a reason for this, and that's that I suck at fast action twitch games
17:16.16fewyni prefer restarts to 8 hour maint
17:16.24JunkHeadPaarn - I love the constant restarts aas opposed to long maintenance.
17:16.26AmarandePaarn: before MoP, we didn't really get server restarts on a nearly-daily basis like we've been lately
17:16.37fewynwell
17:16.40fewynnew features
17:16.41fewynhotfixes
17:16.47JunkHeadI bet NASA is involved.
17:16.56JunkHeadALIENS
17:16.59fewynoptimizations
17:17.01Paarnyou're comparing pre-xpac to post xpac?
17:17.04Paarndoesn't make sense
17:17.15AmarandePaarn: also, comparing this xpac to the previous ones I've been around for the beginning of
17:17.20PaarnHellfire crashed constantly
17:17.30PaarnCata had restarts
17:17.30AmarandeI don't remember them restarting the servers constantly early in LK. Maybe in Cata but not nearly as often as they've been doing it in MoP
17:17.50WardI remember a ton of rolling restarts when ICC was patched in
17:17.58Paarnindeed
17:18.06AmarandeWard: probably more to do with LFD than ICC, I imagine
17:18.06PaarnI think it's perception versus reality
17:18.13fewynjust remember this is new content
17:18.18fewynon TONS of servers
17:18.22fewynin a live enviroement
17:18.29fewynnot the same as the testing neviroment
17:19.14JunkHeadSo, what you're saying, is because Blizz is having to do so many restarts, it's because MoP isn't as good as Cata, and Blizz is probably brain washing us players, and OH SHIT they have our credit card numbers, so they know where we live and are probably implanting data into our bodies through our ears using headphones. OMG THATS RIGHT THERE IS A WOW HEADSET! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
17:19.44JunkHeadOk so, Blizz will control us players by controlling our brains using wow branded headsets. so we keep pumping money into their schemes.
17:19.46AmarandeWell, I mean, *perhaps*, that they should have given it a couple extra months testing and released it around the holidays, like they did with cata and LK
17:20.02Wardblizz doesn´t have my creditcard number
17:20.08WardI pay with prepaid cards or ideal
17:20.16JunkHeadBut... why release it closer to the holidays? the world is gonna end in december.
17:20.27JunkHeadWard - THEY STILL HAVE IT!!!
17:20.31Wardnah
17:20.34JunkHeadYUP
17:20.36Wardnope
17:20.39JunkHeadYUP
17:20.41Wardimpossible
17:20.45JunkHeadOK well...
17:20.47WardI have no creditcard
17:21.06JunkHeadEnjoy your nightly guard duties while you're a member of the Rebellion.
17:21.18WardI have a prepaid mastercard
17:21.30JunkHeadOh, well then you're screwed then.
17:21.30Warddon´t need a creditcard if you live in europe
17:21.41JunkHeadBlizz invented mastercard,
17:21.52JunkHeadSorry.
17:22.09Wardbut I invented money
17:22.10Ward.
17:22.19JunkHeadyeah but are you....
17:22.24JunkHeadA LIZARD PERSON!?
17:22.56AmarandeHowever, as I understand it, they started offering the annual pass about this same time last year. So, if MoP hadn't been out, people would find their contract obligation was over, and wonder why they should keep paying and playing when it's still the same content that was out when they locked into the year, right?
17:23.07AmarandeExcept ... what would they switch to playing if they dropped WoW?
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17:23.53AmarandeTOR didn't retain subscriptions well, which gives a corresponding suggestion about how well it keeps long term players in general. LOTRO, maybe, if you can stomach the increasing trend towards a pay to win model, but ...
17:24.18JunkHeadActually, now that I think about, I FINALLY got a beta invite to Planetside 2 yesterday.
17:24.25JunkHeadI might download that while at work tomorrow.
17:24.27AmarandeI can't imagine the populace who plays traditional video games or MMOs switching en masse to, say, Facebook games.
17:24.28fewyni have a ps2 beta invite
17:24.30fewynhaven't touched it
17:24.46JunkHeadMy friend loved it. But they did a patch that he hated so he quit.
17:25.00AmarandeWords With Friends is fun, mind you, but the idea of going from traditional gaming to a game where you take one or two turns a day on average probably doesn't sit well with most gamers.
17:36.55fewynlet's play the connecting game
17:38.19AlreadyAmarande some of them could be playing Eve
17:39.02AlreadyMaybe like 0.05% or so. ;)
17:40.33Paarnit would be nice if there was a compelling option to balance WoW
17:41.49fewynarenas were a horrible idea from a balancing standpoint
17:42.08Alreadyhaving to play fair would be nice "option" too. But that's not going to happen. ;)
17:42.25Amarandehow would you judge "fair", anyway, in a game like WoW
17:43.02Amarandeyou mean things like mobs not being able to 100% avoid your ranged attack just because, oh boohoobie, they can't reach you to have a chance to fight back?
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17:43.37Amarandemind you, I've tended to think the evade feature is rather illogical, having come from earlier RPGs and even some shooters where taking advantage of things like that is part and parcel of good strategy
17:43.49AmarandeOTOH, without it, we'd have even more of a tank shortage than we already do, for starters LOL
17:44.18Paarnit would make designing terrain much more difficult as well
17:44.50Amarande(primarily because of the combination of that a, all tanks are melee, and b, who would roll melee in such a case when they can do infinitely better for themselves by rolling ranged and taking advantage of the terrain like so?)
17:45.57Paarnthe game design would change as well, you'd likely see more mobs with the ability to fly/jump and have abilities like deathgrip
17:48.27AlreadyAmarande I was more thinking about the pvp site. Like not killing me while being out of the game for half a minute and not killing players which just freshly came back from the graveyard.
17:49.26Amarandeyeah, the graveyard respawn is a tad long, indeed
17:49.35AlreadyI'd really like to transfer to a pve server for that but i just can't afford it/don't want to
17:50.12Amarande(and sometimes I get this paranoid feeling when I do the occasional BG and die, that the Horde players keep track - maybe through addons - of the graveyard timers and try to time our deaths just so, in order that we're hors de combat the maximum amount of time each time)
17:51.12JunkHeadOh damn guys! I just got an invitation to the Mists of Pandaria Beta Test!
17:51.30Amarandeespecially in, say, WSG where given the objectives and the smaller group size, it's much more valuable to keep players out of battle as much as possible rather than to rack up maximum kills
17:52.03Paarnsounds legit, junkhead, you should download the exe file attached
17:52.19JunkHeadI did!
17:52.28JunkHeadI was relieved that it was only 640kb
17:52.31AmarandeJunkHead: don't forget the attached beta test terms, found in the appropriately named file LIFE_STAGES.TXT
17:54.19fewynstill can't connect
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17:55.11JunkHeadsame.
17:55.20Paarnditto
17:55.24JunkHeadalthough the server status page shows my realm as up
17:55.42Paarnseems like a login server issue
17:55.46Paarnnot the realm itself
17:56.24JunkHeadyeah
17:59.44Paarnhttp://wow.joystiq.com/2012/10/07/reports-entire-cities-dead-on-certain-realms/#continued <- interesting
18:02.16fewynit's an exploit
18:02.23fewynprobably what the server restarts were about
18:03.49Paarnthat's why I mentioned it :)
18:04.00Amarande*rolls eyes*
18:04.02fewynthe login servers are still dead tho
18:04.06Amarandepeople do this why, exactly?
18:04.12fewynbecause they can
18:05.44StillThat's one serious exploit then
18:06.22AmarandeI haven't been to SW for more than a few short moments at all today, so ... :S
18:06.27Amarandehmm, come to think of it, what did I do in SW
18:06.36fewyni don't goto stormwind
18:06.38fewyni'm an engineer
18:06.50AmarandeI logged into my mage, clicked the mailbox to collect my AH money, and then switched to my druid who's in Darnassus to do minor inscription research, then to my warlock to continue questing in Badlands
18:07.02Amarandeso I've seen SW for a total of about ... a minute or so all day, heh
18:08.03Domhahh.  Can't log in, can't log in, can't log in.  /panic and go annoy IRC
18:08.03Amarandeand at this point I reckon my warlock probably isn't seeing a city again till 60
18:08.31Amarandesince after Badlands it's all on rails ... Searing Gorge, on to Burning Steppes, on to Swamp of Sorrows, on to Blasted Lands, and finally back to a city to pick up flying mount training at 60
18:10.43Stillflying mount .. on to outlands!
18:11.39Amarandeflying mount ... time to actually be serious about catching up on archaeology
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18:11.43Amarandesince this toon is actually an alchemist :P
18:17.34fewynit's been about an hour now
18:17.37fewynsince restarts
18:17.49fewynhttp://www.wowhead.com/bluetracker?topic=6794831429
18:19.04JunkHeadhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o8e1abGlEk&feature=youtu.be
18:19.06JunkHeadha
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18:19.51Paarn10/7/2012- never forget
18:21.41Domhcamps the wowhead bluetracker while cooking his Thanksgiving turket
18:21.43Domh*turkey
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18:23.31fewynthat's right
18:23.34fewynit's canadian thanksgiving
18:25.05Domh'tis
18:25.10Paarndoes that mean a riot in Montreald by Wayne Gretzky?
18:25.28Paarndoes that mean a riot in Montreal narrated Gretzky?
18:25.33Paarnwth insert key
18:25.37PaarnI hate you
18:34.22JunkHeadWell doodoo
18:34.24DomhDunno, I'm not a french Canadian
18:34.28DomhCould be
18:34.35JunkHeadI was hoping to try to work on my cooking and all today.
18:34.36DomhQuebec does like to be angry
18:35.38Paarnweren't they having another vote to leave Canada? What happened with that?
18:35.58Paarnthe rest of canada should vote them out
18:36.04Amarandeis that why they're so insistent on having a strategic maple syrup reserve? heh
18:37.53fewynhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert
18:43.51DomhVote out Quebec?  That'd be like you guys voting out Texas or something
18:44.25Paarna good idea on both fronts
18:47.36Domh!  Noxy, where are you!?  They're trying to vote you out :p
18:48.14fewynshe's moving
18:48.17fewynor unpacking
18:48.18fewynor something
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18:54.35JunkHeadfewyn how are the dolphins doing today?
18:54.45fewyn14-6 phins
18:54.49fewyndecent
18:54.52fewyna couple fumbles tho
18:54.53JunkHeadah nm, i found it
18:55.04JunkHeadfalcons and redskins are tied 7-7 in the 3rd
18:55.15JunkHeadsaints are gonna wait until tonight to fuck up and lose.
18:57.39TecnoBratwow ... good baseball game right now
18:58.45TecnoBrat4-4 bottom of the 8th
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19:17.37kirkis420hy
19:17.41kirkis420hey
19:17.55TecnoBratBLIZZARD LIED
19:17.56kirkis420anyone else having troblus login into wow?
19:18.00g0urrano
19:18.16kirkis420damn sibnce that sever restart i cant log in
19:18.22kirkis420since*
19:18.30TecnoBratkirkis420, yea .. thats why it says ...
19:18.31TecnoBrat"We are currently experiencing an issue after the performed rolling restarts that is affecting the authentication servers. We are currently investigating this issue and will provide further updates within an hour."
19:18.52TecnoBratif you can't login you should always first try restarting wow ... and then you would have seen that
19:19.15kirkis420ive tryed that it just sit on connection sreen
19:19.35kirkis420i dont ven have a authentication thingy
19:19.41kirkis420even*
19:19.57TecnoBratthats not what that means
19:20.08TecnoBratauthentication server = login server = you won't be able to login
19:20.22kirkis420this new world boss thats drops a mount when does he spwan?
19:20.48kirkis420k thnk you for the info about that :)
19:24.14StillI don't get what's supposed to be so cool about Hangover ... i guess i'm getting old?
19:25.27Amarandekirkis: he'll probably be up by the time people actually get to log in, I suppose heh
19:25.28kirkis420lol
19:25.50kirkis420i hope so
19:26.18Paarndoes that make you angry?
19:26.46tateposition in queue: 1
19:26.47tateYESSS.
19:26.51tate3 hours of waiting
19:26.58tateto empty my mail and log out <,<
19:27.15Paarnexcellent time investment
19:27.45Symmetryare the servers down?
19:28.03Symmetrycause I can't connect
19:28.06Symmetry:\
19:29.35tatesso which one to migrate? hunter or druid? ö,ö
19:31.16PaarnSymmetry: login server issues
19:32.00Paarnno ETA
19:33.50fewynsomeone tell me if you can login
19:33.57AmarandeStay the patient course / Of little worth is your ire / The server is down
19:34.31kirkis420just phoned gm master cant even log in right now
19:34.51kirkis420there trying to fix it
19:35.50kirkis420there severs are fucked up bad he said for loging in
19:35.58Paarnplay borderlands
19:36.08fewynwhich is what i'm doing Paarn
19:36.09JunkHeadWe are continuing to work to resolve the connection issues that many players are experiencing while attempting to log in to the game. We do not have an ETA for when this will be resolved but will provide an additional update at approximately 1:15 p.m. PDT.
19:36.17JunkHeadThere's the newest update.
19:38.09AlreadyWhy isn't the water sound considerd ambient sound Oo"
19:39.05Paarnbecause herpes
19:39.20kirkis420because its a sound
19:39.28tateokay
19:39.31tatewhere the fuck
19:39.31kirkis420its with the sound option
19:39.32tatedo i get
19:39.33tateblackrock lager
19:39.43tate"Blackrock Lager is a level 5 consumable. It is sold by Brew Vendor"
19:39.46tatecan't find
19:39.57AlreadyBut what would be an ambient sound than kirkis420?
19:40.27Paarnbirds
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19:55.26kirkis420nope not yet
19:55.43kirkis420how load everthing is
19:56.04kirkis420already it how load everything is for your sounds and music
19:56.28kirkis420loud ***
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20:03.23kirkis420omg i can log in now
20:07.12g0urrafeng and gara'jal realm first :)
20:07.24fewynWOOO INTERCEPTED
20:07.28fewynfins will win!
20:07.37fewynall we have to do is knee it a few times
20:07.49fewynalso yay servers up
20:08.47JunkHeadyeah i just got in
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20:11.27kanzeiDid the hackers win?
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20:18.15JunkHeadi guess not. im back on.
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21:01.46Jammerwow Gara'jal doing last second voodoo dolls on people assigned to go in ...
21:11.08g0urrafour bosses down \o/
21:11.33AlreadyIs the new raid already live? :S
21:11.33g0urrawe got meng as last and he ran around during the berserk timer
21:11.33g0urrawell yeah
21:12.08AlreadyI probably should get a new chest asap so i can queue up
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21:27.54g0urrafor LFR?
21:33.26Wardget a crafted chest
21:33.30Wardthey´re super cheap
21:34.01WardLFR doesn´t go live for another 2 days though
21:34.49AlreadyYes g0urra. I'm just 3 points short for LFR and my chest is the only piece that's still green. Maybe I'll spend my VP/JP on it. I don't know what to do with them anywy. :S
21:35.09g0urraoh that's next week
21:36.42AlreadyAh damn. Well next week is fine too.
21:38.53WardI hit my lfr mark today
21:39.03Wardhttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/outland/Wardian/advanced
21:39.08Wardplus I can craft the epic gloves tomorrow
21:43.04AlreadyI still need 8 days to be able to craft my epic staff and somehow i have the feeling that the first "real" epic staff is going to replace it.
21:51.40Symmetryare they still having the login issues
21:51.42Symmetry?
21:52.25Paarnno
22:02.30g0urrammm ilvl 471
22:17.03Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] City Exploit Hotfixed - http://www.wowhead.com/news=207124/city-exploit-hotfixed
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23:24.30kassariaHey are there any wowhead site admins around?
23:25.10kassariaI'm trying to find a place to report a security issue.  Basically I keep finding myself logged into various peoples wowhead accounts that are not mine.
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