IRC log for #wowhead on 20120923

00:00.45g0urra_I hate people who make excuses when they wipe on azshara
00:00.49g0urra_"my interrupt is melee"
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00:47.53JunkHeadhmm... bored
00:48.20fewyni'm doing lfr
00:48.27fewynthen i'm going to try to beat borderlands 2 tonight
00:48.40Amarandebeating it already, didn't it just come out?
00:48.46fewynit came out tuesday
00:48.59fewyni just need to do the first playthrough
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01:17.10JunkHeadGonna work on argent dawn rep a tiny bit i guess.
01:17.48JunkHeadDon't guess I'll be doing any old raids tonight.:(
01:28.55AmarandeArathi Basin is a 15 vs 15 domination battleground, where each side attempts to control^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hwander around aimlessly hoping they'll actually run into someone from the other team and be able to do some actual PvP. :)
01:30.19JunkHeadargent dawn rep sucks.:\
01:30.34Amarandeyou don't like running Scholo and Strath over and over? :)
01:30.43JunkHeadNope.
01:30.46JunkHeadIt's boring.
01:30.51JunkHeadYou dont even have to reset strat
01:30.53Amarandeof course, now that you can't get two of Scholo's best pieces of loot anymore ... :(
01:30.58JunkHeadrun in, clear it out, grab book.
01:31.04JunkHeadfly to town, get quest and fly to strat
01:31.13JunkHeadrun through empty instance and get book.
01:31.15JunkHeadrepeat
01:31.35Amarandesince afaik, Alanna's Embrace and the BoE version of the Flask of Supreme Power recipe are gone now
01:31.44JunkHeadgranted you only have to do it 7-8 times, but still.
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01:45.49blademeldbuttsex on a dolphin rape cave with a manatee named jacob
01:46.01fewynjimmies rustled
01:46.30blademeldoh hey fewyn, it's been a while I've seen your jimmies
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01:46.40blademeldit's a lovely shade of red today
01:46.45blademeldhello Djones_
01:46.46fewynthanks
01:47.18fewynwoo i'm almost completely out of my stock of cata mats
01:47.19fewynhurrah
01:47.28fewynpeople have been buying them up
01:47.36fewyni have severly discounted them hto
01:47.39fewynthat might be why
01:47.45fewynhttps://theunderminejournal.com/seller.php?realm=A-Velen&seller=Cakecicle
01:48.57blademeldfewyn, ther's a tankard of terror in the AH for 70G, want it?
01:49.16fewynno thanks
01:49.45fewyni'm really only pushing glyphs and dumping what crap i have left in my bank
01:49.49fewynexcept my inks
01:49.59fewynsaving those for after i hit 85 to resell/craft with
01:50.02blademeldkeke
01:50.53JunkHeadQuestion about glyphs
01:51.04JunkHeadMy characters had all the glyphs possible i think.
01:51.06fewynwhat about them?
01:51.12JunkHeadbut with the patch, some changed of course
01:51.13fewynnew glyphs were added in 5.0
01:51.16JunkHeadand now im missing a few
01:51.19fewynsome are mop glyphs
01:51.21JunkHeadnow, of the ones added...
01:51.26fewynwhich you can't get until next week
01:51.27JunkHeadany craftable with current mats?
01:51.30fewynsome
01:51.30JunkHeadGotcha
01:51.32JunkHeadJust checking.
01:52.08fewyni have a grand total networth of 318k
01:52.09JunkHeadWell I know my warrior never found any on the AH
01:52.14fewyn~woo~
01:52.33fewynhttp://uplol.fewyn.net/2012-09-22_21-52-40.jpg
01:52.36JunkHeadI'm at about 50k
01:52.42JunkHeadPlus 60k or so in the gbank
01:52.58fewynmop's going to be fun
01:53.03fewyni'm going to be SUPER CEREAL
01:53.05JunkHeadwhich is mostly mine too, but I'm not gonna claim it all.
01:53.21JunkHeadI got my old buddy playign again.
01:53.30JunkHeadwe recruited someone to the guild.
01:53.37JunkHeadAnd I might try to get someone else to join the server
01:54.05JunkHeadAlthough i was hoping to be lvl 6 by the expansion, but it's not happening
01:54.12JunkHeadhavent felt like working on it
01:54.48JunkHeadJust leveling to 90 on my warrior will do a huge chunk of guild xp
01:55.08JunkHead2-3 people doing that, and maybe an alt here and there...
01:55.14JunkHeadeasy peasy
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02:13.00Noxy!mop
02:13.01Freyja2 days 4 hours 47 minutes until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012 12:00 AM (PDT)]
02:17.30JunkHeadhow often are you gonna do that?:P
02:19.33lenny-!mop
02:19.34Freyja2 days 4 hours 40 minutes 26 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012 12:00 AM (PDT)]
02:28.36fewynevery 5 minutes until mop releases JunkHead
02:30.31JunkHeadoh ok. just checking.:P
02:34.14JunkHead2 more strat runs
02:59.45raspywewt about fuking time got my raven lord mount
03:00.08Amarandehm
03:00.16Amarandedid voidwalkers used to be more durable or am I hallucinating?
03:00.24raspyafter 100+ tries
03:00.26raspy???
03:00.43Amarandeseems like the health bar on my VW goes down a lot more than I remember on the last warlock I leveled, ages ago
03:01.12AmarandeI don't remember having to top up with Health Funnel as much
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03:03.39sparxxdidnt even know irc still existed
03:03.53raspyhehehe
03:03.57AmarandeI could also swear I don't remember VWs having only about half my health, either
03:03.59raspyirc will be forever
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03:22.20Amarandehrm.
03:22.24Amarandethat was a weird and annoying episode
03:22.33Amarandehad one more dusky lump to get for the quest in duskwood
03:22.56Amarandeand this 85 warrior (same server, not even a CRaZy person!) was busily killing all the blasted spiders
03:23.15Amarandelike, mount-charge-kill, since my warlock was level 19 at the time, no way was she going to catch up to one first to get her last lump except by sheer luck
03:23.21Amarande(which eventually happened, thank the Light)
03:23.30Amarandebut ... why would an 85 want to specifically farm spiders in Duskwood? :S
03:23.41Amarandethey already have Chef, so I presume not for cooking mats, and you can't skin spiders either
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03:27.15Amarandehmm. there some particularly sexy piece of mog gear that spider silk is flying off the shelves to make?
03:34.06JunkHeadman... noone online tonight.
03:34.19JunkHeadusually like... 1 person is on at least
03:34.33StormscapeSpider Silk makes twink boots, afaik
03:34.52StormscapeAlso part of the Silver-thread Regalia set
03:35.07Stormscapehttp://www.wowhead.com/item=4320
03:35.12JunkHeadand dammit i wanna find a hyjal group.:\
03:37.13Amarandeah, that would probably explain it then
03:37.35Amarandeboots are something I still haven't thought about yet, since ... welll ...
03:37.37JunkHeadI'm almost bored enough to do fishing....
03:37.46Amarandemy warlock still hasn't gotten to the kind of level to have serious xmog options (she's only level 20)
03:37.57Amarandeand my mage is draenei, so boots are irrelevant for her
03:39.08StormscapeThat was the best part about being Draenei
03:39.10Stormscapedon't need boot transmog
03:41.16Noxyyou do as a non-clothie
03:41.17Noxy):
03:41.25Noxygetting shoes that match plate sets
03:41.46Sephirothmy troll is barefoot all the time.
03:43.27Stormscapebest part about being a caster: don't need pants transmog
03:43.34Stormscapeunless you're doing a set that uses a vest
03:45.17JunkHeadblah. gonna fish i guess.
03:45.33JunkHead436/525.
03:45.36JunkHeadLong way to go.:(
03:45.41blademeldfishes around JunkHead's underwear drawer
03:45.50blademeldfinds sexy lingere
03:46.01blademeldreads them
03:46.08blademeld"women's x-l"
03:46.32JunkHeadYou might wanna wash your hands after touching those....
03:48.26JunkHeadIf I get lucky, I mgiht can finish fishing by tuesday.
03:50.55blademeldjust noticed the prince in stormwind is still level 5
03:51.00JunkHeadAnd I guess tuesday, I might get my m
03:51.02JunkHeadoops
03:51.09blademeldI'd thought npc levels are reflective of their ages
03:51.13JunkHeadAnd I guess tuesday, I might get my mom to call me when my game comes in.
03:51.13blademeld:\
03:51.23JunkHeadSo she can open it and read off the code.
03:51.32JunkHeadEither that or just wait until I get home to play.
04:00.13AmarandeI already did the digital preorder of MoP
04:00.32Amarandeonly the standard edition though, since the digital deluxe looks to be a terrible deal unless you have D3 and/or SC2
04:00.40JunkHeadI did collector's edition
04:00.49Amarandewell, maybe not completely terrible seeing as it's a mount and minipet for $20 and usually just a mount on the blizz store goes for $25
04:00.51Noxy!mop
04:00.53Freyja2 days 2 hours 59 minutes 10 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012 12:00 AM (PDT)]
04:00.58Noxyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
04:01.01Amarandebut still ... more than half of the bonuses in the digital deluxe edition are for games other than WoW
04:01.19JunkHeadoddly enough, I'm buying MoP for a friend too. digital one. She'll have it before i will.:P
04:01.28Noxyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
04:01.30Noxyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
04:01.31ArcSanesedates Noxy for 2 days
04:01.34Noxy!mop
04:01.35Freyja2 days 2 hours 58 minutes 26 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012 12:00 AM (PDT)]
04:01.39NoxyEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
04:01.42AmarandeIt left me with the kind of feeling like, if, say, BioWare were to release Dragon Age 3's collector's edition with the bonuses being in-game items for SW:TOR and free DLC for Mass Effect :P
04:01.56ArcSaneAlso, Noxy!  I was speaking to Andrew :p  Has blackmail! >_>
04:01.57NoxyI dont have time to be sedated unfortunately, I'd love it if I could be.
04:02.04Noxy:/
04:02.17NoxyI honestly hope you're kidding.
04:02.22ArcSaneMebbe
04:02.32Amarandeheh. mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if they do that, seeing as SW:TOR appears to be on life support now and probably considered in need of every marketing assistance it can get, not to mention I wouldn't be surprised if DA3 was BioWare's last game, sadly :(
04:02.39ArcSaneWhy does he have good blackmail?
04:02.44NoxyBecause that was one reason I was scared of inviting him into my private life.
04:02.53NoxyNot really, but he used to lie a lot.
04:03.11ArcSaneAh.  Well I think I've given away my answer :p
04:03.15Amarandeactually, at some point I'll probably pick up D3
04:03.34NoxyAnd I'm still nervous that he may decide to turn around to trash talk me to my guildies.
04:03.50Noxyso, yeah, dont joke about that plz ): he used to be a really really terrible person
04:04.07AmarandeNoxy: the kind of person who ninjas loot and talks on his cell phone in the movie theatre?
04:04.16Noxythe kind that beats up his little sister
04:04.51NoxyANYWAY
04:04.53NoxyYEAH
04:04.56Amarandeyeah, I imagine anyone who does things like that probably does also ninja loot and talk on his cell phone in the movies :P
04:04.57NoxyNO TIME FOR SEDATION
04:05.15NoxyI have to paint the posts for the kids room partition
04:05.23NoxyI finished the curtain for it today
04:05.42Noxyclear-coat my step sons chair that i painted last week
04:06.02Noxyhand sew on my step daughters applique on her dressing runner
04:06.04Noxyuhhh
04:06.09NoxyAND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF
04:06.44Noxyalso my husband is doing to dye my hair and I need to work on the Brewfest artwork
04:06.56Amarandeoh right, it's almost brewfest
04:07.01Noxyso much to do ):
04:07.11JunkHeadwhen is brewfest this year?
04:07.16JunkHeadisnt it delayed?
04:07.25Noxyit is
04:07.31Noxybut I still need to do art for it ;P
04:08.56AmarandeI'm guessing it's delayed so people who don't spend the next two weeks up 24/7 on Monster drinks can actually do Coren
04:10.01Amarandehrm. glad I'm not on the West Coast
04:10.33AmarandeI wonder how many people not on the East Coast are going to be bummed out this year because they won't be able to finish off Hallow's End stuff on Halloween night
04:10.43fewynit's delayed a week
04:11.00JunkHead450/525 fishing
04:11.31Amarande(because Hallow's End ends at 11:59PM on Oct 31, and people on the West Coast stand a good chance of being CRZ'd to servers with later timezones, so they go in for one last shot on Halloween evening and find ... OH SORRY IT'S NOVEMBER DIDN'TCHA KNOW? No more HH for you!)
04:11.51Amarandeor did they actually lock all the CRZ zones to Pacific time?
04:12.28AmarandeI've noticed that in the last few days I've never seen a CRZ zone that wasn't on Pacific
04:12.59ArcSaneThey;ve set it so you can't see zones that aren't more then 3 hours away from your own
04:13.15ArcSaneer. can't cross realm, with realms, that is
04:13.24ArcSaneAnd thers's a lot of pacific ones
04:13.38AmarandeThe only time I see a server time that isn't Pacific is when I'm in SW or Org, *maybe* a battlegroup or instance
04:13.44Amarandewhenever I'm CRZ'd, I'm always in Pacific Time
04:13.50fewynhi doooomh
04:13.57ArcSaneallo
04:13.58JunkHeadSW and Org aren't CRZ
04:14.09Amarandethat's what I mean, I'm only in Eastern time when I'm in my native server
04:14.14Amarandeif I'm CRZ, I'm in Pacific
04:14.31JunkHeadI don't even pay attention to time zones in zones.
04:14.31Amarandewhich is making me wonder if they locked in a universal time for all cross-realm zones to solve the timey wimey problems
04:14.50ArcSaneSW and Org can be.  That's why there's so many odd little phasing errrors.  But on most realms the pop doesn't drop low enough
04:15.36AmarandeJunk: If I wasn't on the East Coast, it would be important on the last night of things like festivals
04:16.08Amarandesince then you have to reckon with being CRZ shunted to a server with a later time and finding the festival is over (possibly as early as 9PM, if you're on the West Coast and get shunted to an East Coast server)
04:17.42AmarandeI remember when CRZ first came out, before the three-hour limit, there was plenty of kvetching from folks who got locked out of the Darkmoon Faire way early on the last evening
04:18.04Amarandebecause they'd go out into Elwynn and find they're on an Oceanic server where it's tomorrow and the portal to Darkmoon Island isn't there anymore
04:22.03AmarandeSince I'm on the East Coast though and can't get CRZ'd with Oceania since the time difference is too large ... I can only end up somewhere where it's earlier, never later
04:38.21ArcSanebah.  Wish I was on an east coast realm
04:38.39ArcSaneor better yet, there needs to be a realm on Newfoundland Standard Time
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05:29.41janeanyone hordeside need a ds achievement run?
05:48.02raspyhmm
05:48.34raspyi need one :( and wish i woulda seen that message when ya said it :(
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09:57.04Wardwhy does the launcher manage to unmute itself every week
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13:50.24Stormscapehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRlOM3y4yG4
13:58.20StormscapeHoly fucking shit logged in and my friend has mailed me 300 greens to either auction or d/e
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14:12.57Wardpeople in amsterdam are used to getting pranked
14:13.07Wardso they don´t bother trying to unstick a glued down iphone
14:14.38StormscapeSo apparently it was 271 greens
14:14.53Stormscapegonna be so much gold if it all sells
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14:48.08Warddo heirlooms have an ilevel higher than 1?
14:48.16StormscapeNope
14:48.32WardI´m level 68 and I noticed that when I equip some dungeon dropped shoulders instead of my heirloom shoulders
14:48.38Wardmy ilevel score goes down
14:49.23Stormscapewut
14:49.38Wardexactly
14:49.58Wardsame happens with a trinket and weapon I got
14:50.08Wardmy ilevel is 99 with the heirloom, 98 with the trinket
14:50.13StormscapeSense, it makes none
14:50.30Wardwhen I equip all the blues I got instead of heirlooms
14:50.34Wardit drops to 95
14:50.53Wardso I´m guessing heirlooms have an ilevel that scales up with user level
14:51.00StormscapeMaybe heirlooms have a hidden iLevel
14:56.08JunkHeaddone with fishing,
14:56.28JunkHeadand got a guild achievement too.
14:56.53fewyn24/25 dailies completed
14:57.02fewynone more to fill the log
14:57.18JunkHeadyou do the ones in deepholme and twilight highlands I assume?
14:57.44fewynno molten front and tol barad
14:57.48JunkHeadAh ok.
14:58.08fewynturn in molten front dailies, tabard to tb, turn those in, hop in portal and start questing
14:58.56fewyn~15% xp for all these quests
14:59.05fewynnot a lot but a decent quick boost
14:59.30fewynmy cata launch quest log would have given me 50% xp if it didn't get so bugged out
15:02.49fewyntime to move wow to the ssd
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15:27.17fewyndo heirloom xp bonuses effect quests?
15:27.22fewyni can't remember
15:27.52JunkHeadThey did from 80 to 81
15:28.02JunkHeadNot sure if that was intended or not though
15:28.35fewyni have one beta char transfer left
15:28.37fewynlet's find out!
15:28.48JunkHeadI dont even have beta installed.
15:28.56JunkHeadI didnt wanna download it again.
15:32.27JunkHeadok so fewyn, I'm guessing you leveled to 90 in beta. How long you think  it will take you on live?
15:32.44fewyni didn't level to 90 in beta
15:32.50fewyni did some of the first zone
15:32.59fewyni did the first zone only on beta for cata too
15:33.04JunkHeadAh ok.
15:33.12JunkHeadDoesn't hurt your chances of beign realm first?
15:33.30fewynnope
15:33.34fewyni got realm first last time too
15:33.47Djones_Well.
15:33.51Djones_it means you're less prepared.
15:34.22StormscapeI already know it's impossible for me to get realm first because I'm on Area 52
15:34.34JunkHeada52 us?
15:35.02StormscapeYes
15:35.07JunkHeadYeah...
15:35.17JunkHeadLotta hardcore people on Area 52 last time I played there.
15:35.18StormscapeHighest population PvE server in WoW
15:35.23JunkHeadis it?
15:35.24JunkHeadwow
15:35.42JunkHeadI played there for a good portion of wotlk
15:35.53StormscapeMoon Guard is the only other PvE server even close
15:36.02StormscapeA52 is 217k, MG is 214k
15:36.59StormscapeSilvermoon EU just barely beats out Stormrage for 3rd place
15:37.00JunkHeadAlso, I believe approximately 213k of a52's population are assholes.
15:37.13JunkHeadfuckign awesome players.. but complete asses
15:37.16StormscapeMore like 216.5k
15:37.36fewynnope
15:37.41JunkHeadSome damn good players there.
15:37.44fewynno bonus xp for 85-86
15:37.44StormscapeIt's the best PvE server in WoW and they know it
15:37.48fewynwith heirlooms
15:37.52fewynhelm and cloak
15:37.59Stormscapelaaaaaaaame
15:38.35StormscapeI manaaged to get another daily from Troll Barad today
15:38.40Stormscape21 dailies from TB in my log
15:38.49StormscapeMaybe with some luck I'll get another one tomorrow
15:39.09fewyn13% xp from 24 quests turned in tho
15:39.51StormscapeI plan on turning in my quests then immediately queueing for dungeons with 4 guild mates
15:39.56Stormscapeand just chaining dungeons for 5 hours
15:39.58Stormscapethen going to bed
15:40.21JunkHeadI plan on just coming home from work, and playing. Probably questing for the most part.
15:40.37Stormscapeyeah considering I'm on A52 I cannot simply quest
15:40.43Stormscape200,000 people will be in Jade Forest
15:40.45Stormscapeall of them Horde
15:40.54JunkHeadStormrage will be just as bad.
15:41.05StormscapeStormrage only has 194k people
15:41.19StormscapeActually, less
15:41.23JunkHeadWell, when A52 came out, a lot of people from SR went there.:P
15:41.25Stormscapethey have more Horde than A52 has Alliance
15:41.30JunkHeadYOU ARE MY SEED!
15:41.46StormscapeSR has 160k 85 Alliance, 24k 85 Horde
15:41.55JunkHead24k? i call bullshit
15:41.58StormscapeA52 has 173k 85 Horde, 30k Alliance
15:42.00JunkHeadmore like 4k
15:42.05StormscapeMore like 4
15:42.19JunkHeadprobably.
15:42.20StormscapeYeah but how many of them are Alliance side alts
15:42.26JunkHeadthe other 3996 were cross realm
15:42.42Stormscapegod imagine if they cross-realmed A52 and Stormrage
15:42.52JunkHeadIt would be... GLORIOUS
15:43.01JunkHeadnot pvp realms...
15:43.04Stormscapethe servers would explode
15:43.08JunkHeadbut damn thatd be one awesome place to play
15:43.30StormscapeJunk we're not a pvP server yet Dark Portal was the site of hundreds of players world pvping a couple days ago
15:43.33Stormscapeall from PvE servers
15:43.48JunkHeadI saw pics. didn't pay attention to the server though.
15:43.56Elysa!mop
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15:44.01ElysaSOON
15:44.31JunkHeadhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Whompy/simple
15:44.33Stormscapethose pics were from the PvP ones
15:44.37JunkHeadmy highest character on a52 now
15:47.21Stormscapethe main servers we get CR from are Icecrown and Dawnbringer
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15:48.06JunkHeadI saw people from Lothar a lot yesterday.
15:48.08Stormscapeit's hilarious because they keep complaining there's too many Area 52 people
15:48.11Stormscapeso I drink their tears
15:48.40JunkHeadYeah but... when we did random 5 mans back in wotlk and some in cata, i was always happy to see peopel from a52
15:48.47JunkHeadBecause I knew they were gonna fuck around.
15:48.51JunkHeadwerent*
15:48.57StormscapeThis one guy was like "WTF WHY IS DALARAN SO FULL"
15:49.01Stormscapecause A52 Dalaran has like
15:49.03Stormscape300 people in it
15:49.24JunkHeadeven leveling up, in a group of 84's and such, the one guy from a52 is probably 81 or somethign, but he'll top dps.
15:50.03StormscapeIf you still play, if you see somebody from Vindication on A52 in your random
15:50.06Stormscapewe fuck around all the time
15:50.16JunkHeadvindication....
15:50.19JunkHeadhmm
15:50.38StormscapeWe'll queue in full heroic raid gear for regular Grim Batol
15:50.40Stormscapebecause why not
15:50.45Stormscapethen make the healer really work
15:50.48Stormscapetank in grays
15:50.53Amarandeheh, for me it's not a matter of seeing too many people from (realm)
15:50.56Stormscapedps everything in site
15:51.04Stormscapesight even
15:51.11Amarandeit's more a matter that seeing so many people from (insert other realm here) underscores how few people I encounter from my own realm anymore :(
15:51.15Stormscapethen pull entire rooms at once and tank our own elites
15:51.36Stormscapeand the entire time we'll be all insulting each other
15:51.42Amarandeand since I presume the phasing system avoids splitting people from the same realm into different phases unless it's a "too-high pop" situation ...
15:51.53JunkHeadyeah i dont recognize any names in that guild.
15:52.10Stormscapeyeah it won't shard your own realm unless your realm is Stormrage or Illidowns or Area 52
15:52.13Stormscapeor Cockrock
15:52.14JunkHeadLast guild I was in there was umm. Reprisal
15:52.16JunkHeadI think
15:52.45StormscapeI've only been in Vindication for a month and already they're the most hilarious people I've ever played with
15:52.52AmarandeYeah. Which means that when I see tons of Azuremyst and Aerie Peak folks, it's not that Azuremyst and Aerie Peak folk are ill behaved
15:53.02AmarandeIt's that "wow, people from Ysera don't go here anymore" gets really underscored :(
15:53.16AmarandeFor some reason it doesn't quite feel that way when the zones are just empty
15:53.38StormscapeYsera apparently has 83k 85s
15:53.46Stormscape44k Alliance, 39k Horde
15:54.05AmarandeYeah, we've got lots of 85s, it's when I'm leveling an alt that I notice it
15:54.14Amarandeseems like people on Ysera have lots of 85s but don't level alts much if at all :S
15:55.19StormscapeI find it quite interesting that across all PvE servers, Alliance outnumber Horde 60/40
15:55.50AmarandeIs the opposite still the case on PvP?
15:55.54StormscapeYup
15:55.57Stormscape60/40 Horde for PvP
15:55.59JunkHeadWell, I started as alliance, then went horde, then back to alliance.
15:56.09JunkHeadI just like the alliance cities more.:\
15:56.12AmarandeI noticed interestingly that even some PvP servers I thought were Horde dominated have gone Alliance
15:56.14Amarandelike Tich
15:56.21WardOutland is full - Position in queue: 1045
15:56.24StormscapeEven on the RPPvP servers Horde still outnumber Alliance
15:56.26Amarandewhich is now something like 30:70 Horde:Alliance as I recall
15:56.27Wardsigh
15:56.37JunkHeadward over 1000 of those are DK's.
15:56.40AmarandeWard: well, it's only a tiny little continent, you know :)
15:56.48StormscapeThe tagline of Tich: Tich is not for you
15:56.52JunkHeadAND THEY GON TANK FOR YOU!!!!
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15:56.58WardDKs?
15:57.04Wardwhy is that?
15:57.04JunkHeadyup.
15:57.13JunkHeadthats all i ever see in outland
15:57.19AmarandeStorm: heh, and despite this, Tich is the home of the Horde chapter of one of the most famously friendly guilds in all of MMOdom
15:58.17WardI moved from the deadest realm in Europe
15:58.18WardSunstrider
15:58.20Wardto the busiest
15:58.22WardOutland
15:58.32Wardwe moved the whole guild over at the start of cata
15:58.32Amarandeyay, Ysera is not full
15:58.56Wardso instead of not raiding because we didn´t have enough members, we went to raiding late because of queues :p
15:58.58Amarandewhy move to a full realm?
15:59.08Amarandesome people have cited advantages of High, but I don't see how Full With Queues is better :)
15:59.25Wardbecause the economy is insane and we tripled our membership in a month
15:59.34Wardit´s so much better than Sunstrider
15:59.38Amarandemyself I'm on a Medium realm ... which is usually nice, though sometimes I get that feeling like Medium means Dying :S
15:59.45Amarandenoting for instance that Low does usually mean Dead
15:59.51Wardalso we were worried going to a healthy medium realm would put us at risk
15:59.54Amarandealthough there's apparently a few diehard players who still insist on playing on Azshara LOL
15:59.59WardSunstrider was healthy until the middle of WotLK
16:00.08Wardwhen blizzard broke the realm with some free transfers
16:00.14AmarandeI looked at the Azshara realm forum once just for kicks
16:00.27Amarandeand noted that this guy posted that he had been in 13 guilds over his time in WoW
16:00.40WardSunstrider, Stormwind, at rush hour, you´re lucky to find 10 players in the /whpo
16:00.43Amarandeto which my thought was "there are actually thirteen people on Azshara to have founded that many guilds to begin with?" LOL
16:01.01WardI´ve been in the same guild since Vanilla
16:01.28WardI played horde for a while during tbc, but I was with my old guild again when wotlk came out
16:02.33AmarandeI bounced around a bit
16:02.57AmarandeI got into WoW in late BC, and joined a friendly guild with some of my buddies from a Wheel of Time site I belong to who convinced me to play WoW in the first place
16:03.18Amarandethen I ended up transferring my main off server for several months before returning for LK
16:03.27g0urraif I've done 103.36 million damage against a training dummy and did 27k dps, how long did I hit it for?
16:03.52Amarandemainly because Turalyon Horde was, for all the friendliness, no place to be a freshly dinged 70 warlock without tailoring :(
16:04.21Amarande(I didn't take tailoring because I already had a character at the time with highly leveled tailoring and it didn't quite seem logical to take the same profession twice, at least not till I have alts with every profession ...)
16:05.43AmarandeWithout tailoring, no Frozen Shadoweave set to bootstrap me (and even if I had had it, it would have been ... hmm ... about a couple months' worth of cooldowns before I could make it if - as would have been the case since my gold supply was not very good apart from the time I gathered up money for epic flying - I didn't buy any extra pieces of shadowcloth from the AH)
16:05.54AmarandeAt that point it was like "T5 for heroics or you don't go" :|
16:06.15AmarandeNobody ran normal 70 instances anymore except occasionally on the weekends, either, it seemed
16:06.20Wardg0urra, one hour, 3 minutes and 40 seconds?
16:06.36g0urralul
16:06.37AmarandeAnd I couldn't even use PvP as a way to get started on gear, because there was no way to get honour at any reasonable rate due to that being the days of the AV Boycott
16:06.45g0urrathat's how long I tried the arms rotation against a targetting dummy
16:06.54Wardyou did that for over an hour?
16:07.03Amarandeheh, if I was Alliance, I probably would have been able to get honour fast enough to leave the honour counter just spinning, though :P
16:07.26Wardgaaaah
16:07.29Ward20 minutes in a queue
16:07.39Wardand missed it calculating g0urra´s dps time
16:07.57g0urrayes Ward, it seems like I did
16:08.03g0urralost track of time
16:08.15WardI get bored after 2 cooldown rotations
16:08.34g0urraheh
16:08.36Amarandedoes arms actually have a simple fixed rotation?
16:08.46g0urrawell it's the first time in years I've played an arms warrior
16:08.51g0urraso I tried to refine it
16:08.58JunkHeadArms seeme dok.
16:09.02AmarandeI've never leveled past 20 or so as a warrior
16:09.05WardI´m trying to figure out boomkin rotation
16:09.06JunkHeadBut I went back to fury.
16:09.07WardI don´t get it
16:09.12WardI played resto for 3 years
16:09.14AmarandeAnd these days you pretty much have to be a masochist not to level as prot
16:09.17Wardnever even specced balance once
16:09.20Wardso now I´m lost
16:09.25WardI´m in the tall grass, in the weeds
16:09.30JunkHeadWarriors level fast regardless.
16:09.37g0urraWard: try this http://www.icy-veins.com/balance-druid-wow-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities
16:10.11Amarandedoes icy-veins actually let you print their stuff, btw? :)
16:10.19Wardwhy print
16:10.25AmarandeEJ does, Noxxic on the other hand I tend to get annoyed at because their pages are as printer-unfriendly as can be
16:10.27Wardsave a tree, but a second monitor or a tablet
16:10.31Wardbuy
16:10.33AmarandeWard: so you don't have to alt-tab while learning the rotations?
16:10.58WardI have 3 screens, a laptop, a tablet
16:11.07Wardand in a pinch I could break out my netbook and tablet PC
16:11.39JunkHeadI just use a 2nd pc for that stuff.
16:11.45Wardone day I wanna build my own mission control with 2 layers of screens
16:11.50JunkHeadone of those 300$ dell pc's.
16:12.08g0urraI have 3 monitors: one for internet browsing, one for gaming and one for IRC
16:12.20Wardyeah I´m sitting here next to my gaming rig with 3x 24¨ screens
16:12.26Wardtalking to you on my cheap lenovo laptop
16:12.32AmarandeWard: if your electric metre's ten-thousands digit isn't spinning like a top, you don't have enough computers? :)
16:12.36g0urraother programs I switch around between the first and third, and especially on the second if I'm not playing games
16:12.38JunkHeadI have my main pc with a 22" and 21" screen
16:12.46JunkHeadand my 2nd desktop with a 21"
16:12.55WardAmarande, these monitors are extremely power efficient
16:12.58AmarandeI have a 24" monitor, but currently a rather small desk that doesn't leave me room for another
16:13.10Wardhell, I think everything I use now uses less power than 1x CRT tv did 10 years ago
16:13.21AmarandeBesides, I have to get that gigantic Tripp-Lite power strip before I can even think of adding any more peripherals :P
16:13.32AmarandeWard: including the gaming rig? :)
16:13.40Wardwell maybe not
16:13.49Ward2x 4890X2 running in crossfire
16:13.52Ward1200 watt PSU
16:14.01Amarandeyou know, it would be nice if there was some kind of software interface to the PSU
16:14.04Wardbut at least I don´t kill trees for printer paper
16:14.10Amarandeto let you read voltages and how much total power is being used, particularly
16:14.22Wardthere´s a few PSUs that have a USB interface you can hook up to the motherboard
16:14.27JunkHeadUPS's have that.
16:14.57Wardyou can monitor and even set levels through the software
16:15.12Wardbut the PSUs that have that are usually either wickedly expensive or from terrible brands
16:15.21Amarandeheh, set-level access sounds a little scary, too
16:15.41JunkHeadhttp://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/management-software/pppe.html
16:15.44Amarandeget hacked while not home and if the hacker knows about it they can literally set your house on fire, I'm guessing?
16:15.56Wardnah it has safeties
16:16.01Wardyou can just turn off certain rails
16:16.18Wardlike cut power to specific internal hardware
16:16.20Amarandeat which point, since hackers are notoriously rarely caught, they'd probably just haul you into court accusing you of gross negligence :P
16:16.30Amarandeespecially if you're in Germany, probably. I'm glad I'm not in Germany.
16:17.06Warda few years ago, I got a guy dragged into court because he DDoS´d the website of the company he worked for
16:17.17Wardhe was a tool though, he used some servers he rented to do the DDoS
16:17.24Amarandewell, from what I read, the Germans have some really lovely computer crime laws
16:17.26Wardand then bragged about it on our website afterwards
16:17.34Wardguy had to pay a massive fine
16:17.43Amarandebasically, strict liability to the point that if someone hacks computers or networks in order to commit crimes with them
16:17.50Amarandeit's the owner of the network that's considered to be guilty of said crimes
16:18.15Wardwell, the spirit of the law is that people are responsible for securing their networks
16:18.17Wardbut it´s not unlimited
16:18.37Wardif you have a wifi with WPA2 and a decent key, you´re free of liability in german law
16:19.00Wardbut if you run an unsecured wifi and someone uses it to commit fraude, the network owner is responsible
16:19.11Amarandeto the point of absurdity in some cases, from what I've read. someone hacks your wifi? sounded like yup, you can be a paedophile without even knowing what child pornography even is, heh
16:19.15Wardbut there´s also loopholes for open wifi systems in public places
16:19.22Wardit´s not as bad as some examples make it sound
16:19.32Wardnobody has ever been convicted for not securing their systems properly
16:19.32Amarandereminds me of some stupid laws they have in America
16:19.36Wardunless they did it intentionally
16:19.42Amarandelike apparently at least one guy in Florida is currently serving a life sentence for murder
16:19.51Amarande... because someone borrowed his car while he was asleep on the couch and committed crimes with it
16:19.58Wardwell
16:20.12Wardthere´s probably more to it than that
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16:20.25Wardthere has to be transfered intent or conspiracy
16:20.57Wardlike if you´re part of a gang who robs people, then leave the gang and that gang keeps robbing and eventually kills someone
16:21.03Wardyou´re still responsible for the murder
16:21.05Wardthat sort of thing
16:21.07Amarandein the US at least, there's a tendency for there to be assumed guilt regarding cars, apparently
16:21.39Wardthe thing in the US also is, that some people are to stupid to ask for a lawyer
16:21.49Amarandelike, unless someone has timely reported a car as stolen, if their car's marker plates are seen at a crime scene, they're assumed to have been in on it :P
16:21.53Wardor they think asking for a lawyer makes em look guilty
16:21.55Wardso they don´t
16:22.02Wardthen some prosecutor tricks em into a deal
16:22.23Amarandewell, there's also the fact that lawyers in the US tend to be colossally expensive
16:22.34WardAmarande, that assumption is made for investigative purposes, but not for criminal prosecution
16:22.51Wardbut as I said, before they even get to a trial some overzealous DA may talk someone into a deal
16:22.57AmarandeWard: it's been getting worse in some cases at least
16:23.35Wardthe US justice system is as fair as most western countries, but it does require a bit more self sufficiency on the part of suspects
16:23.56Amarandee.g., if you go through the intersection on a yellow light (legal) and then the light turns red for any reason before you're able to get out of the intersection (e.g., some douchebag blocks you off and slows you down)
16:24.24Amarandethe red-cam will gladly chuck a ticket your way :P
16:24.38Wardif there´s a douchebag in a position to block you off you shouldn´t be running the yellow anyway
16:24.58Wardyellow is a last resort can´t possibly stop in time situation
16:25.20Wardbasically the only reason you should ever run a yellow, is if it´s more dangerous to stop than it would be to speed up
16:25.39Wardlike you can´t break in time
16:26.04Amarandeof course, you can probably still get screwed by those stupid cams anyway
16:26.04Wardthis is why I prefer roundabouts
16:26.17Wardyeah the cams have no legal authority though
16:26.20Amarandee.g., douchebag blocks you off and gridlocks things, and now you're blocking the box because you couldn't complete a turn that you started on green
16:26.31Wardautomated tickets are just a precursor to a legal process
16:26.36Wardyou either pay them, and accept guilt
16:26.44Amarandeoh, and in New York at least, you get POINTS for blocking the box
16:26.44Wardor you can go to court over it
16:34.47JunkHeadMan, some of these warlock talents suck
16:41.12AmarandeJunk: which ones?
16:45.24JunkHeadi dont remember now. not on him anymore
16:48.37fewyngrrr you can only watch the sunday ticket max on one device at a time
16:50.20JunkHeadany good games on today?
16:50.40fewynjets mia
16:50.47fewyni'm biased tho
16:51.25JunkHeadsaints are playing the chiefs.
16:51.33JunkHeadI don't know anything about the chiefs though
16:52.03JunkHeadlet's see what I actually have on my channels.
16:53.39JunkHeadi got saints v chiefs
16:53.50JunkHead<PROTECTED>
16:54.47Amarandegf wanted to watch the Bears game with me, but since she's in a different market than I am and I'm not about to spend 350 bucks on the Internet version of Sunday Ticket since I don't have DirecTV ... :|
16:56.02Amarandegood gods, 350
16:56.14Amarandethat's like ... twice what the baseball and hockey streaming 'net packages each cost
16:56.26Amarandeand the football season is way shorter to boot :P
16:57.02JunkHeadNBA package is cheaper too.
16:57.10JunkHeadIt's like... 200-250 i think.
16:57.49JunkHeadI might get it again this year, depending on what access I have to hornets games.
16:57.50Amarandeactually, the NHL package this year is probably the cheapest of all ... ROFL
16:58.08Amarandein fact, I'm pretty sure I can see the entire NHL season this year for absolutely free
16:58.25JunkHeadI had MLB for a month for 3 bucks.
16:58.36JunkHeadso yeah, if you look, you can find deals
16:59.42Amarandesince there isn't going to be a hockey season this year
16:59.54Amarandeat least it means I don't have to watch the Flames just miss the playoffs again
17:00.26Amarandeow, the worgen in duskwood hit like freakin' Mack trucks
17:00.35AmarandeI even saw a prot pally be mauled pretty good by one of the Nightbane Stalkers :|
17:00.53hyljebonerfart
17:01.28Amarandebut yeah, NFL has the shortest season and the most expensive package, wtf
17:01.48Amarandeand since the wikipedia article about sunday ticket says that it's only a $50 or so premium for non-DirecTV folks getting the Internet version
17:01.57Amarandethat would seem to indicate that even if I had satellite I'd be paying 300 for it
17:02.03Amarandewell, wouldn't be
17:02.12Amarandesince for 300 I can buy my entire current newegg cart and have money to spare :P
17:03.49Amarandewhich is ... that power strip, a surge protector to go with it, and a new video card
17:05.44JunkHead47 yard run.:P
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17:22.11JunkHeadhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842102054
17:22.21JunkHeadthis is the one I have... I think.
17:23.20JunkHeadYeah that's it.
17:24.01Amarandeyeah, at some point I might get a UPS
17:24.14Amarandeatm though, I find I'm more in need of outlets than anything else
17:24.35Amarandebtw, plugging a surge protector into a UPS = bad. is the reverse also true? (i.e., you should only plug a UPS into a non-surge-protected outlet?)
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17:25.14JunkHeadhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101311&Tpk=ES-750
17:25.18JunkHeadI also have one of these.
17:25.57JunkHeadAnd I don't know. Mine are on different outlets.
17:27.06AmarandeWell, what I'm planning to do is plug the big Tripp-Lite power strip through a single outlet surge protector unit
17:27.16Amarandesince the Tripp-Lites don't have surge protection built-in
17:27.38Amarandewhich means all those outlets become surge protected so I'm wondering then if you can plug a UPS into that or if it needs to be on a non-protected outlet
17:27.59Amarande(I'm guessing not, though, since these days whole-house surge protectors are getting to be in vogue, which mean EVERY outlet in the house has some protection if you get one of those too)
17:29.41JunkHeadSaints are looking damn good today.
17:33.03Amarandebtw, have I ever mentioned that the demonic fury horns just look adorable on a female dwarf? :)
17:37.11Amarande... wow
17:37.24Amarandethat's my second level up in a row that came from an exploration credit, without really intending for it to turn out that way
17:48.12Amarandealso seeing that ring of mountains in the middle of Duskwood still creeps me out a bit heh
17:48.38AmarandeEven with the raid-level green dragons gone, there's still that instinctive thought about ominous rings of land/mountains
17:48.48WardI´ve been leveling up through dungeons
17:48.55Wardbut when bored I´ve been doing mining and herbing
17:49.02Wardgotten a few levels worth of XP that way
17:49.48AmarandeI'm lamenting the squishiness of my minion since 5.0
17:49.58AmarandeUsed to be voidwalkers could both attract and take a hit
17:50.14AmarandeNow against harder enemies there's often times where playing it safe means just using corruption and otherwise focusing on health funnelling the VW
17:50.42Amarandeand I'm demo, my minions should be good :P
17:50.54Amarandehopefully the voidlord doesn't suck this bad when I hit 75 :)
17:51.55Amarandeand this is despite being talented for Soul Leech
17:52.08Amarandewonder if they've been slowly creeping towards balancing leveling zones around BoA? :|
17:56.58JunkHeadcamera shots of the saints fans.
17:57.05JunkHeadone gyu wearing a master chief suit
18:02.31WardI notice a lot of low level warlocks using voidwalkers in dungeons
18:02.42Wardthey usually take aggro and get one shotted
18:02.52Wardsigh, took a break, came back
18:03.01WardOutland is full, position in queue: 1400
18:03.38AmarandeWard: probably simple forgetfulness in that regard
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18:03.55Amarandemost leveling warlocks probably have their voidwalker out when they enter the dungeon, since that's what they're using while questing
18:04.49AmarandeI mean while questing at or near level, it seems VWs get mauled a lot more readily than they used to
18:06.56AmarandeAnd even a prot pally got hit pretty hard by the worgen
18:06.58AmarandeI'm starting to wonder if they beefed up mobs at least a little under the assumption that people will be usually leveling with BoA now
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20:53.12Freyja1 day 10 hours 6 minutes 48 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012 12:00 AM (PDT)]
20:58.54JunkHeaddamn fewyn miami and ny are in OT too?
20:59.03JunkHeadsaints and chiefs went to ot too
21:04.58fewynyeah they did
21:05.00fewynwe just lost
21:05.01fewynsigh
21:05.06fewynphilbin screwed us
21:05.13fewynhe called a timeout just as we blocked the field goal
21:05.18Paarnyea
21:05.24Paarnicing the kicker is silly imo
21:05.25fewyncalled it like 1s before they kicked it
21:05.30fewynwas fucking retarded
21:05.33fewynwe blocked it too
21:05.40fewynhe's gotta be kicking himself right now
21:05.49Paarnmiracle play and then you gave him another chance
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21:09.47Elysasoon!
21:10.01Elysaalso, go Jets
21:10.04Elysawoooo
21:10.26JunkHeadsaints just had terrible luck.
21:10.32JunkHead5 refferee reversals.
21:10.37JunkHeadnone in favor of the saints.
21:10.46JunkHeadtook away 2 saints TD's too.
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