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| 02:38.00 | eXemplar | anyone have any cool/hidden quests that are shareable? |
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| 04:19.13 | Noxy | !mop |
| 04:19.14 | Freyja | 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours 40 minutes 47 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012] |
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| 05:21.02 | Stormscape | Pandaren Rogue with Glyphed Safe Fall = Come at me bro |
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| 08:27.01 | Ward | I think they lowered the Maraudon level range by 2 levels, but they didn´t adjust the instance quests accordingly |
| 08:27.23 | Ward | so you can´t get them until the dungeons have been in your LFD list for 2 levels |
| 08:28.42 | Jammer | think quite often you'll have that you can't the quests until at least 1 level later |
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| 09:55.56 | Ward | the lower level dungeons used to be synced up |
| 09:55.59 | Ward | up until BRD |
| 09:56.06 | Ward | but now it´s a mess |
| 09:57.03 | hylje | synced up how |
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| 10:16.41 | Ward | when you were high level enough to do a low level dungeon you´d also unlock the quests |
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| 12:51.25 | creitve | hello, can someone tell me, is it possible to send SoR to my own wow account in the same BN account to gather mounts titles etc.& |
| 12:51.53 | creitve | In fact, I know it is possible to send, but will I share things after I logged in? |
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| 13:24.42 | JunkHead | creitve - yes you can send to your other accounts. I've done it then tramsferred the character to my main account. |
| 13:24.56 | JunkHead | Also, all accounts on your battlenet account share account wide stuff. |
| 13:25.06 | JunkHead | as far as i can tell |
| 13:26.38 | creitve | JunkHead: thank you, I can see already! |
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| 16:33.44 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/BhNqj.jpg |
| 16:43.20 | Stormscape | ugh, soloing Blood Furnace to try to get a belt for my T6 transmog |
| 16:46.24 | Amarande | hard, or "dammit this won't drop"? |
| 16:46.46 | Stormscape | "why won't you drop" |
| 16:48.05 | Stormscape | yessss dropped |
| 16:50.26 | Amarande | it's simple. |
| 16:50.38 | Amarande | it's the same reason why people believe that items being up on the real money auction house in D3 cause the drop rate to drop. |
| 16:50.45 | Amarande | It's not because the item's up on the RMAH there, either. |
| 16:50.49 | Amarande | It's because these people want the item. |
| 16:50.51 | Djones__ | I'm sorry what. |
| 16:50.55 | Djones__ | Nobody actually believes that. |
| 16:51.06 | Amarande | heh, some people did when it was new |
| 16:51.12 | Djane | No, they didn't. |
| 16:51.16 | Amarande | apparently they must never have played an RPG with random loot before |
| 16:51.27 | Djane | okay allow me to quantify |
| 16:51.31 | Amarande | there's a general rule of RPGs with random loot, and it doesn't matter if there's an RMAH or any kind of auction house or whatnot. :) |
| 16:51.38 | Djane | anyone who knows one iota of anything they're talking about knows that that's stupid |
| 16:51.38 | Amarande | This rule is: If you want an item, its drop rate will drop. :) |
| 16:51.40 | Djane | and you're just talking bullshit |
| 16:51.49 | Djane | Again, nobody actually believes that |
| 16:51.54 | fewyn | people are stupid |
| 16:51.57 | fewyn | i bet some do |
| 16:52.00 | Djane | Nope. |
| 16:52.01 | Amarande | what, that if you actually want an item, it drops less often? |
| 16:52.02 | fewyn | yep |
| 16:52.11 | Amarande | it seems to happen to quite a lot of people, anyway |
| 16:52.12 | Djane | psychologically speaking it's referred to as Justiificaiton fantasy. |
| 16:52.19 | fewyn | just like my heroic thrown weapon never dropped |
| 16:52.21 | Djane | Nobody believes it, they just pretend they do because it makes them feel better. |
| 16:52.25 | fewyn | from morchok |
| 16:52.26 | Amarande | presumably this is why AD&D fixed so many of the more powerful magic item types to be swords :) |
| 16:52.34 | fewyn | thankfully i no longer need it |
| 16:52.45 | Amarande | otherwise, none of them would ever get used, particularly in editions with weapon proficiency |
| 16:53.11 | Amarande | because you just know the dice will mean all your Holy Avengers and Flame Tongues and Frost Brands will be lovely useful things like ranseurs and glaive-guisarmes that nobody actually ever invests weapon proficiency slots into. :) |
| 16:53.44 | Amarande | Come to think of it, I'm not even quite sure what ranseurs and glaive-guisarmes even are, apart from some kind of polearm :P |
| 16:54.08 | Djane | Google. |
| 16:54.12 | Djane | It's helpful, yo. |
| 16:54.43 | Amarande | Indeed, it's a wonder that anyone ever managed to equip themselves decently at high levels in a by-the-book AD&D 2nd game, heh |
| 16:54.57 | Amarande | You had to choose your weapon proficiencies, and I think there were still random magic item tables then, too |
| 16:55.29 | Amarande | Chances are, you're going to encounter enough oodles of miscellaneous polearms to equip a legion or so by the time you get enough good swords and maces for your party. :) |
| 16:55.30 | Djane | Amarande, a)who cares |
| 16:55.33 | Djane | b)this isn't relevant |
| 16:55.50 | Djane | c)some of us actually -played- AD&D with a half sensible GM and suddenly it wasn't that big a deal. |
| 16:58.21 | Amarande | Yeah. This is why we don't actually use the random magic item tables, of course. :) |
| 16:58.34 | Djane | Also, you're still playing AD&D, now? |
| 16:58.57 | Amarande | OTOH, it also explains why a lot of the loot sucked in, say, the Gold Box games that did use random magic item tables often. :) |
| 16:59.37 | Amarande | And you couldn't just sell all of it effectively, generally, because unlike so many later RPGs, Gold Box actually took into account the fact that coins had weight. |
| 16:59.52 | Djane | I'm going to presume the answer is yes |
| 17:00.00 | Djane | And that explains so much about you I don't even know where to begin. |
| 17:00.51 | Amarande | What's wrong with AD&D? :) |
| 17:01.15 | Djane | Nothing, but it explains why you're basically a dinosaur, always prattling on about shit that nobody cares about, or trying to put together tangential bullshit as if it's relevant |
| 17:01.17 | Amarande | Well, 1st Edition anyway. Generally, 1E and 3E are pretty good, 2E is meh, and 4E is ill-suited to a tabletop game (it looks like it would be perfect for a computer game) |
| 17:01.26 | Djane | That's basically the quintessential modern era AD&D player. |
| 17:01.32 | Amarande | Dinosaur? |
| 17:01.34 | Amarande | er. |
| 17:01.39 | Amarande | we prefer the term "grognard" tyvm. :) |
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| 17:01.56 | BouhOp | http://www.UneGeekette.com/?id=91608 |
| 17:02.03 | Djane | Why would I care/ You don't listen to anything anyone ever says, -ever-. |
| 17:02.13 | Djane | This is why nobody bothers to listen to you, btw. |
| 17:02.27 | Amarande | Djane: because you are "everybody." |
| 17:02.31 | Djane | Because we raise counter points, we state facts and figures, and you just go on as if you're giving a speech. |
| 17:02.32 | Amarande | fewyn? |
| 17:02.49 | Amarande | I seem to remember there's a rule about flaming here? |
| 17:03.53 | fewyn | CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG |
| 17:04.29 | Noxy | ^ |
| 17:04.32 | Noxy | quit being dicks. |
| 17:05.26 | Djane | I can converse with anyone quiteh appily. |
| 17:05.29 | Djane | I just can't stand preachers. |
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| 17:09.13 | JunkHead | I LIKE DINOSAURS!!!! |
| 17:09.50 | Taylorfest | no |
| 17:09.50 | Amarande | JunkHead: are you wishing they'd let us tame stegodons and diemetradons too? :) |
| 17:11.28 | Amarande | For that matter, I tend to think the idea of untameable beast types is silly in general, unless there's a specific practical reason for it, like ... fish and such |
| 17:12.04 | Taylorfest | Well, you can't expect to be able to tame anything. |
| 17:12.18 | fewyn | did you know usain bolt can run faster than a t-rex? |
| 17:12.31 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/LmvGq.jpg |
| 17:13.10 | Taylorfest | ridiculous |
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| 17:16.44 | Amarande | Well, you'd have to travel back in time and obtain a T-rex to really check, I would guess :) |
| 17:17.00 | Amarande | Make sure you bring some titanium rope to wrangle the T-rex with, I suppose :) |
| 17:17.29 | Amarande | ... actually, for several reasons, it's probably a very good thing for humanity that we don't have backwards time travel |
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| 17:29.55 | Eraclito | Torhal, i tried my best to translate the _DESC phrases of ARL |
| 17:30.07 | Eraclito | but translating all the npc names and such, seems... looong |
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| 18:05.03 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria: Rogue Class Preview and Build 16048 Spell Changes - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205694/mists-of-pandaria-rogue-class-preview-and-build-16048-spell-changes |
| 18:05.18 | Secarious | I hate rogues |
| 18:05.20 | Secarious | and paladins |
| 18:05.33 | Noxy | Having trouble in pvp? |
| 18:05.52 | Secarious | rogues are cowards |
| 18:05.59 | Secarious | and paladins...the stupid bubble thing |
| 18:06.18 | Secarious | do you know how many paladins I would have killed if they didn't have bubbled out?! |
| 18:06.38 | Torhal|work | Eraclito: Yah, there are a bunch :/ |
| 18:06.43 | Torhal|work | Eraclito: Thanks :) |
| 18:06.52 | Esamynn|work | ~sympathy Secarious |
| 18:06.53 | infobot | ACTION aww its ok Secarious, every thing will be ok. |
| 18:07.18 | Noxy | See, I just target the ines that ARENT paladins. |
| 18:07.45 | Noxy | Like disc priests. That penance hurts, these days. Gotta get 'em down. |
| 18:07.56 | Secarious | and who targets paladins then? |
| 18:09.05 | Secarious | does anyone needs to be recruited btw? |
| 18:10.40 | Noxy | for RaF? People here usually already have accounts. |
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| 18:11.04 | Secarious | well there is a thread about RaF on general |
| 18:11.10 | Secarious | but I can't post since I am banned |
| 18:13.04 | fewyn | rogues are best class |
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| 18:21.01 | Amarande | say, did the cross-realm zones thing go live with 5.0.4? |
| 18:21.34 | Amarande | or is that a MoP release thing? |
| 18:21.51 | Amarande | and if it's live, how's it going in practice ... I haven't had a chance to really play wow since patch |
| 18:22.10 | Amarande | spent patch day unsuccessfully trying to fix my UI, then I went to Dragon Con, then I was busy reinstalling everything on my new hard disk |
| 18:23.17 | nebula169 | can totally duel people from other servers outside of org! |
| 18:23.42 | Amarande | has it become as horrendously touch-and-go to level a character on a PvP server as some folks feared? |
| 18:24.07 | Amarande | (due to the enormous power of rogues in BoA up till the mid-late 70s or so meaning it's basically "ambush and done" for them to kill you) |
| 18:25.06 | Amarande | something which seems mostly unfixable though, because if you toned down the power of rogues in BoA it basically would seem to have to result in it *only* being possible to level a rogue reasonably if you have full BoA |
| 18:25.14 | nebula169 | people that worry about that shit on pvp servers are silly |
| 18:25.16 | Amarande | since they'd then probably be too weak without it |
| 18:25.42 | fewyn | cross realms works ari5av |
| 18:25.43 | fewyn | Amarande |
| 18:25.54 | fewyn | i was in draenei lands yesterday |
| 18:25.54 | Amarande | fewyn: how dense do they tend to be populated now? |
| 18:25.58 | fewyn | and the zone was cross realm |
| 18:26.01 | fewyn | i have no idea |
| 18:26.19 | fewyn | i'd say under 50 people? |
| 18:26.33 | fewyn | at least that's what i'd set it to personally |
| 18:26.38 | fewyn | if i was in charge |
| 18:26.56 | fewyn | no idea tho |
| 18:27.17 | fewyn | i don't think you can actually tell if a zone is cross realm unless you run into someone from another realm |
| 18:27.40 | nebula169 | until you leave it and all your old skills spam chat |
| 18:27.43 | nebula169 | :p |
| 18:27.50 | fewyn | ? |
| 18:28.10 | fewyn | i haven't seen anything like that |
| 18:28.20 | Stormscape | Why do I even have 26 slot bags |
| 18:28.26 | Stormscape | Current free bag spaces: 95 |
| 18:28.33 | fewyn | because you need them for mop |
| 18:28.39 | nebula169 | if i leave org/come back, like all of old weapon skills and trade skill levels spam chat as if i learned them |
| 18:28.40 | Amarande | Storm: yeah, because you need them for MoP |
| 18:28.40 | fewyn | i have 91 slots free right now too |
| 18:28.47 | nebula169 | maybe its fixed now |
| 18:28.49 | Amarande | once you start questing again, you're going to find they'll fill up pretty fast |
| 18:28.52 | fewyn | i don't have that issue nebula169 |
| 18:28.59 | Amarande | or, go farm some low level instances |
| 18:29.13 | Stormscape | nebula169, that happens whenever you enter a cross-realm zone |
| 18:29.20 | Stormscape | So your server is so low pop Orgrimmar is cross-realm |
| 18:29.20 | Stormscape | wow |
| 18:29.25 | nebula169 | no |
| 18:29.28 | fewyn | goldshire is cross realm |
| 18:29.30 | nebula169 | capital cities are never shared |
| 18:29.34 | Amarande | I think it was explicitly stated that capital cities were never shared, yeah |
| 18:29.35 | fewyn | i see someone from galakrond |
| 18:29.35 | Stormscape | Yes they are |
| 18:29.39 | fewyn | no theyu aren't |
| 18:29.40 | nebula169 | negative |
| 18:29.48 | Secarious | goldshire is cross realm? LMAO! |
| 18:29.55 | Stormscape | Amarande, source |
| 18:30.04 | fewyn | every time blizzard posted about it Stormscape |
| 18:30.10 | nebula169 | http://i.imgur.com/sWcQD.jpg |
| 18:30.12 | nebula169 | lots of that |
| 18:30.13 | fewyn | they said cities would not be cross realm |
| 18:30.13 | Stormscape | and I'm asking for a source |
| 18:30.19 | Amarande | Secarious: this is what RP servers were afraid of |
| 18:30.21 | g0urra | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4903181008 |
| 18:30.26 | fewyn | thanks g0urra |
| 18:30.27 | g0urra | Q. Can I go into main capital cities while grouped with others? |
| 18:30.27 | g0urra | Capital cities and areas with regularly high populations will not be set as cross-server areas/zones so you will not be able to enter into the same instance of a city as someone who is from a different realm. |
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| 18:30.30 | fewyn | i ddidn't want to go digging |
| 18:30.57 | Amarande | is there currently a flood of posts from RP server folks who are pissed off to all hell because ERPers from Moon Guard are being pushed to their zones? |
| 18:31.04 | g0urra | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cross+realm+capital+cities |
| 18:31.09 | g0urra | I mean really |
| 18:31.11 | Amarande | that seems to be what they were afraid of before 5.0 |
| 18:31.13 | g0urra | took 5 seconds to google |
| 18:31.14 | fewyn | i would think goldshire isn't cross realm on moonguard |
| 18:31.16 | fewyn | i would hope |
| 18:31.20 | nebula169 | my realm shares with moon guard, lol, and i'm not on a rp server |
| 18:31.29 | Amarande | *blink* |
| 18:31.39 | Amarande | you mean they're forcing RP servers to share with non-RP servers, too? |
| 18:31.46 | Secarious | what if a rp will meet with a pvp one? |
| 18:31.46 | fewyn | it's by battlegroup |
| 18:31.47 | fewyn | i think |
| 18:31.52 | Amarande | wow, I'm glad I don't play on RP servers, the whole idea is basically doomed to die now |
| 18:31.57 | nebula169 | rivendare, moonguard, maiev, and totherhiem (sp) are what i see regularly |
| 18:32.19 | Amarande | fewyn: by data centre, apparently, although they said that in live, they were going to keep the four server types separate |
| 18:33.53 | fewyn | supposedly ironforge is cross realm on my server |
| 18:33.59 | fewyn | that's interesting |
| 18:34.10 | fewyn | let's go find out |
| 18:34.23 | Amarande | And how could you even do automatic PvP - PvE crossing over either, say? |
| 18:34.29 | nebula169 | yea, its just org and stormwind that are immune i think |
| 18:34.38 | Amarande | Would PvP players be allowed to attack PvE server players because they come in with PvP rules? |
| 18:34.42 | nebula169 | Amarande: on better pve players are flagged for pvp if they get put on the pvp server |
| 18:34.47 | nebula169 | on beta* |
| 18:35.03 | Amarande | So basically, there's no longer a such thing as a PvE server, ultimately? |
| 18:35.18 | Amarande | Ultimately the only style of server will become "standard PvP" due to share infection? |
| 18:35.25 | nebula169 | i'm sure they'll tweak it going forward |
| 18:35.29 | nebula169 | beta only has the four servers |
| 18:35.48 | Amarande | nebula: I'm hearing reports that non-RP servers are having to share with Moon Guard |
| 18:35.57 | nebula169 | that was from me |
| 18:36.04 | Amarande | well, that means that the RP-nonRP distinction was not preserved, even though that was said to be the case |
| 18:36.05 | fewyn | do you remember when people would flag themselves pvp and stand on top of daily quest givers? |
| 18:36.32 | fewyn | how i miss you isle of quel'danas |
| 18:36.38 | g0urra | no you don't |
| 18:36.43 | fewyn | you're right |
| 18:36.45 | nebula169 | lol, the isle was amazing |
| 18:37.27 | Amarande | And Maiev being included in your list suggests that PvP and PvE is not being respected either |
| 18:37.28 | Amarande | Moreover |
| 18:37.37 | Amarande | since *most of the totally dead servers are PvP* |
| 18:37.51 | nebula169 | well |
| 18:37.55 | Amarande | doesn't this mean that PvE players now will have to expect to regularly be dragged kicking and screaming to be guest players on PvP servers? |
| 18:37.57 | nebula169 | this was durotar |
| 18:38.09 | nebula169 | i'm betting they don't mix server types in contested areas |
| 18:38.48 | Amarande | huh. and apparently Tortheldrin (is that the one you meant?) is on the East Coast, while those other servers are on the West Coast |
| 18:38.54 | nebula169 | yes |
| 18:39.03 | Amarande | so no data-centre limits either? |
| 18:39.24 | fewyn | yep ironforge is cross realm |
| 18:39.26 | Amarande | great, so if we had DC problems with West Coast servers (as I did a while back) we should just expect to have DC issues at random in general while questing now, based on the vagaries of the RNG of cross-server? |
| 18:39.27 | fewyn | that's interesting |
| 18:39.35 | fewyn | http://uplol.fewyn.net/World_of_Warcraft_2012-09-06_14-39-21.jpg |
| 18:39.47 | nebula169 | yea, i'm pretty sure its just org and stormwind that are immune |
| 18:41.46 | Esamynn|work | i wouldn't have said anywhere was immune, just a matter of what zones are seeing high and low population |
| 18:41.58 | Stormscape | Guy in my guild lost Heroic Madness mount for the 2nd week in a row. Last week he rolled 83 and I rolled 85 and won. This week, he rolled 85 and somebody else rolled 87. |
| 18:42.03 | Stormscape | Truly it sucks to be him |
| 18:42.16 | Esamynn|work | ouch |
| 18:42.34 | Stormscape | 2 more chances for him to get it before it goes to 1% |
| 18:43.04 | Stormscape | Best part: That was my first time doing Heroic Madness and I got it |
| 18:43.09 | Stormscape | schwoopy loopy arms.png |
| 18:44.29 | Stormscape | http://i.imgur.com/fPPRl.jpg |
| 18:46.27 | g0urra | dafuq? |
| 18:46.39 | Stormscape | DOUBLE HEROIC HAGARA |
| 18:46.41 | Stormscape | YEAH BOI |
| 18:46.56 | Stormscape | The question here is: If they had managed to kill both of them, would they have gotten double the loot? |
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| 19:45.55 | fewyn | so hunter pets don't have talents anymore and we get to pick which tree they have? |
| 19:46.09 | JunkHead | yup. |
| 19:46.15 | fewyn | interesting |
| 19:46.21 | JunkHead | you pick like... what are they |
| 19:46.24 | JunkHead | ferocity? |
| 19:46.34 | JunkHead | whatever the other 2 are |
| 19:46.46 | JunkHead | and they have different abilities. |
| 19:48.11 | fewyn | http://uplol.fewyn.net/2012-09-06_15-48-12.jpg |
| 19:48.33 | JunkHead | yarly |
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| 20:00.18 | g0urra | and you can change it at any time |
| 20:01.39 | Amarande | so hunter pets are completely up to the player's discretion now? or are there still unique abilities that make certain ones significantly more useful? |
| 20:01.58 | fewyn | they still have different special abilities |
| 20:04.11 | Amarande | are there still a Big Seven, or did they do away with huge pet buffs like that? |
| 20:05.11 | Amarande | that was one of the lousier things about Cata and pets IMO |
| 20:05.39 | Amarande | the fact that they gave us even a large number of *new* pet families on top of everything else - but like most of the existing pets, virtually all were made useless in serious groups except maybe in 25's or really well balanced 10's |
| 20:05.57 | Amarande | in 10's with poor class balance, or in 5-mans, there was a sort of pressure on the hunter to provide a pet that could give a missing buff |
| 20:06.02 | Amarande | and only seven pet types out of the lot had such buffs |
| 20:06.31 | Amarande | making the other pets noticeably inferior (and when soloing, wouldn't you want to bring a pet with a big raid-grade buff too?) |
| 20:08.20 | Amarande | like, the things like core hounds providing bloodlust and what was it shale spiders? providing kings, etc. |
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| 20:42.42 | raspy2 | hmmm |
| 20:55.41 | Stormscape | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6515991752?page=1#2 |
| 20:55.43 | Stormscape | did I overdo it |
| 20:55.56 | hylje | yes you did |
| 20:56.42 | hylje | i don't see the sick burn in op |
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| 21:26.30 | g0urra | "You already have the maximum number of characters allowed on this account." |
| 21:26.33 | g0urra | fuck you too blizzard |
| 21:30.05 | hylje | scumbag blizzard, raising realm character limits but not global |
| 21:30.57 | Mr_Rabies | honestly, the realm character limit should be the same as global, which should be higher than 50 |
| 21:31.41 | Torhal|work | Think of all the bits! |
| 21:37.57 | Amarande | They should sell extra character slots on the Blizz Store |
| 21:42.30 | Mr_Rabies | pls no |
| 21:42.36 | fewyn | ^ |
| 21:43.27 | Amarande | ehh, it's the kind of microtransaction that makes sense and doesn't piss off players |
| 21:43.39 | Amarande | nobody thought Guild Wars was any less good of a game because you could buy up to 20 or so extra character slots :) |
| 21:44.05 | Amarande | The only time microtransactions are really a bad thing are when they get to the point where a player who uses them has a significant advantage over a player who doesn't |
| 21:44.22 | Amarande | I didn't even mind LOTRO's model until they made too many steps towards pay to win |
| 21:44.58 | Amarande | A few bucks for half milestone (= hearthstone) cooldown on an oft-used character? Sure. A few bucks to add additional power to your gear? NO. |
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| 21:45.57 | g0urra | except that hearthstone would be an advantage |
| 21:46.16 | Amarande | g0urra: more of a convenience, really |
| 21:46.30 | Amarande | by "advantage" is generally meant "things that actually give you an edge in combat over people who don't have it" |
| 21:47.03 | g0urra | why does it have to be in combat? |
| 21:47.31 | Amarande | however, does, say, an extra character slot give a player any significant edge at all? |
| 21:47.35 | g0urra | if I can farm herbs or do archaeology digsites better (as an example) by having another hearthstone, that's an advantage |
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| 21:50.56 | neolithic | hmm wats up with the servers |
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| 21:54.29 | neolithic | this sucks i cant log in |
| 21:54.47 | neolithic | u guys getting dsconnected ? |
| 21:54.50 | g0urra | no |
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| 21:55.21 | neolithic | hmmm can u loginto eitrigg or hellscream? |
| 21:55.42 | g0urra | are they US? |
| 21:56.00 | neolithic | yes |
| 21:56.05 | g0urra | then no |
| 21:56.24 | neolithic | ur not allowed to log into us servers? |
| 21:56.55 | neolithic | that sucks |
| 21:57.16 | neolithic | what server dou play in? |
| 21:58.22 | Noxy | EU accounts are seperate from US ones. |
| 21:58.35 | neolithic | oh ic |
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| 22:22.53 | Djane | Stormscape, |
| 22:22.54 | Djane | Stormscape, |
| 22:22.58 | Stormscape | Djane |
| 22:22.59 | Stormscape | Djane |
| 22:23.09 | Djane | So I just did a jumping puzzle in GW2 |
| 22:23.32 | Djane | 5 of us, scaling this cavern that is absolutely massive |
| 22:24.08 | Djane | Like, the same size of stormwind, with about 10 levels of height |
| 22:24.11 | Djane | In a pvp zone |
| 22:24.19 | Djane | Against a couple other realms |
| 22:27.41 | Lugburz | sweet |
| 22:27.43 | Lugburz | that sounds fun |
| 22:27.46 | Lugburz | movement games are crazy |
| 22:27.49 | Djane | There was this one point |
| 22:27.49 | Lugburz | some people are so good T_T |
| 22:27.56 | Djane | where I called for my guildee to trigger the boulders |
| 22:28.01 | Djane | as I fled 5 enenmies |
| 22:28.27 | Djane | And leapt off the ramp to the next platform just as it landed. |
| 22:28.43 | Djane | It was basically multiplayer pvp tomb raider... |
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| 22:54.28 | ifeodot | hi all |
| 22:54.35 | ifeodot | can u help me? |
| 22:54.38 | ifeodot | So I seem to be unable to get Wowhead tooltips working anymore. For every WoW item on webpages "powered by WoWhead" or through using the Greasemonkey script to enable that everywhere, I get a mouse over tooltip that displays one of the following: 1) Loading... 2) No response from server 3) Item does not exist |
| 22:58.36 | fewyn | man why does crafting in wow have to take forever |
| 23:01.07 | Mr_Rabies | i see professions being the next big overhaul, fewyn |
| 23:01.24 | fewyn | i don't know if you've seen how crafting disciplines work in gw2 |
| 23:01.30 | fewyn | but i really like it |
| 23:01.40 | Mr_Rabies | we had the world in cata, combat mechanics in mists |
| 23:01.55 | Mr_Rabies | i'm thinking professions aren't too far along, as they're absolutely the most outdated thing in wow now |
| 23:02.03 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 23:02.08 | Mr_Rabies | i know it's secondary so it's no big deal |
| 23:02.12 | fewyn | yeah |
| 23:02.19 | fewyn | professions do need an overhaul |
| 23:02.20 | Mr_Rabies | but i made NINE bandages during the entirety of cata |
| 23:02.21 | Mr_Rabies | NINE |
| 23:02.28 | fewyn | i've been working on crafting these inks for an hour |
| 23:02.31 | Mr_Rabies | why even bother |
| 23:02.36 | fewyn | i know i'm doing it en masse |
| 23:02.39 | fewyn | but a fucking hour? |
| 23:03.00 | Mr_Rabies | inks are one of the worst examples for how inefficient the professions are |
| 23:03.09 | Mr_Rabies | you go from herb, to pigment, randomly |
| 23:03.11 | Mr_Rabies | to ink |
| 23:03.14 | Mr_Rabies | to item |
| 23:03.27 | Mr_Rabies | those extra steps are wholly unnecessary, imo |
| 23:03.32 | Mr_Rabies | they don't add anything of interest |
| 23:04.03 | Mr_Rabies | engineering is just as bad |
| 23:04.13 | Mr_Rabies | use metal, make part |
| 23:04.17 | Mr_Rabies | mix part with metal, make another part |
| 23:04.31 | Mr_Rabies | mix part with elemental bullshit, make another part, do the same with another |
| 23:04.36 | Mr_Rabies | mix parts together, make item |
| 23:05.25 | fewyn | it makes sense you have to get a pigment from a plant and then turn it into ink |
| 23:05.28 | fewyn | i know it makes sense |
| 23:05.31 | fewyn | but it takes fuck forever |
| 23:05.43 | Mr_Rabies | eh, it's arbitrary though |
| 23:06.04 | Mr_Rabies | there's a lot more into making pigments than crushing up leaves |
| 23:06.18 | fewyn | http://uplol.fewyn.net/World_of_Warcraft_2012-09-06_19-06-15.jpg |
| 23:06.33 | Mr_Rabies | soaking in solvents, pouring in solvent nullifying agents once solvents have done their work, etc |
| 23:06.40 | Djones_ | *http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/write.ign.com/140904/2012/09/GLaDOS_FOR_PRES1.jpg |
| 23:07.03 | Mr_Rabies | why is TSM the antithesis to user friendliness fewyn |
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| 23:07.09 | fewyn | eh |
| 23:07.15 | fewyn | i use it mainly for quickly canceling groups |
| 23:07.17 | fewyn | and milling |
| 23:07.22 | Mr_Rabies | it's so fucking ugly and unusable that i always uninstall it less than an hour after i install it |
| 23:07.24 | fewyn | and mass posting glyphs |
| 23:07.32 | Mr_Rabies | i use auctionator and panda |
| 23:07.37 | fewyn | and figuring out which glyphs to craft |
| 23:07.43 | Mr_Rabies | panda is like a TSM that makes sense, though it is missing a few features |
| 23:08.00 | fewyn | tsm is great for figuring out what to cancel for undercuts |
| 23:09.54 | fewyn | i use skillet to queue things and buy shit from vendors i need |
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| 23:11.46 | neolithic | ithink they should include dyes with inscriptions..so we can color our own armor |
| 23:12.21 | fewyn | that would require a mega revamp in how armor works in game |
| 23:12.24 | fewyn | doubt it'll happen |
| 23:13.27 | Gnarfoz | pretty safe to say that falls inside the realm of "never going to happen" ^^ |
| 23:13.40 | fewyn | yeah |
| 23:13.44 | neolithic | wow was released more than 7years ago 1month after guild wars was released and gw already had dyes back then and now d3 has em too i dont know why they cant do it for wow |
| 23:13.54 | Gnarfoz | and tsm is a bit... wtf to grasp, but it's alright to use, even for crafting |
| 23:14.04 | Gnarfoz | because it's not a matter of when |
| 23:14.10 | Gnarfoz | but a matter of how their shit works |
| 23:14.40 | fewyn | the game is made competely different neoark |
| 23:14.42 | fewyn | neolithic |
| 23:14.55 | neolithic | 8yrs is enough time to make any shit work |
| 23:14.56 | Gnarfoz | they apparently decided against it then (or never thought about it), and doing it now would incur prohibitive amounts of work |
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| 23:15.08 | fewyn | not really |
| 23:15.13 | fewyn | not when the engine wasn't built for it |
| 23:15.36 | fewyn | that's why we got transmog gear |
| 23:15.39 | fewyn | instead of dyes |
| 23:15.43 | Gnarfoz | yea |
| 23:16.00 | fewyn | transmog was probably easier to achieve than dyes |
| 23:16.24 | Gnarfoz | transmog should've technically have been easy as shit to implement, if it weren't for the restrictions they wanted in place |
| 23:16.32 | fewyn | yeah |
| 23:16.44 | Coreclown | True, speaking of 8yrs… I wonder how long wow will run on very old game engine |
| 23:16.50 | Gnarfoz | forever |
| 23:16.55 | fewyn | until the end of times |
| 23:16.58 | Coreclown | :P |
| 23:17.01 | fewyn | the world ends this december |
| 23:17.05 | fewyn | didn't you know? |
| 23:17.06 | Gnarfoz | true.dat |
| 23:17.09 | Coreclown | Haha |
| 23:17.40 | neolithic | 8 yrs with a proprietary engine that was customized for blizz a monthly income ofover 5million excluding xpacks and paid services ......trust me ITS ENOUGH |
| 23:17.57 | fewyn | can't just throw money at things |
| 23:18.00 | fewyn | that doesn't work |
| 23:18.02 | Coreclown | It is, no doubt |
| 23:18.18 | fewyn | it's not that it's all pure profit |
| 23:18.22 | neolithic | THROW money at things? what do u think our whole society is based on?!! |
| 23:18.24 | fewyn | you have to remember how big blizzard is |
| 23:18.38 | neolithic | what rock have u been living under? |
| 23:18.47 | Gnarfoz | it's not a matter of money anyway, you thinking so just shows you lack the technical understanding :| |
| 23:18.54 | Coreclown | They just make more games / more new versions of their games instead of upgrading game engine or doing anything that big to WoW |
| 23:19.15 | fewyn | they did make some nice upgrades in 5.0 |
| 23:19.19 | Torhal | pisses on entitlement. |
| 23:19.20 | fewyn | like the new lighting engine |
| 23:19.21 | Coreclown | They did |
| 23:19.29 | neolithic | i can write write in assembly language ..i have enough technical knowledge |
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| 23:19.34 | fewyn | they are also talking about NEW MODELS FOR VANILLA RACES |
| 23:19.38 | Djones_ | Eh |
| 23:19.44 | Djones_ | there's absolutely no point in ever remaking the engine for wow |
| 23:19.45 | Gnarfoz | how the fuck does that count as a qualification for software design |
| 23:19.48 | Coreclown | And I like how WoW is looking, even with lower graphics |
| 23:19.52 | Djones_ | Ever. |
| 23:19.56 | Gnarfoz | "new lighting engine" is a bit much, they just tacked SSAO onto the existing one |
| 23:19.59 | Coreclown | No need for HD |
| 23:20.14 | Djones_ | It's almost as much effort as just making WoW2 |
| 23:20.28 | fewyn | yeah |
| 23:20.29 | Coreclown | Yes, that would be just… strange |
| 23:20.29 | Gnarfoz | we're on wow 5 now :D |
| 23:20.33 | Djones_ | No. |
| 23:20.37 | Gnarfoz | yes! |
| 23:20.37 | Coreclown | :d |
| 23:20.37 | Djones_ | We're on WoW 5.0 |
| 23:20.41 | neolithic | oh lets see ....rad is arguably 6th gen code ? wow is written with lua ...5th gen code ? |
| 23:20.41 | Gnarfoz | WoW's major version is: 5 |
| 23:20.45 | Djones_ | That is not the same thing as WoW2 |
| 23:20.57 | Gnarfoz | wow is not written in Lua |
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| 23:21.26 | neolithic | ur dumber than i thought ...go read up on addons |
| 23:21.26 | Gnarfoz | Djones_: actually, it is, look up versioning schemes ;) Chrome 22.0.1.51245 is still Chrome 22 ;) |
| 23:21.32 | Djones_ | Correct |
| 23:21.37 | Djones_ | Which is not Chrome2. |
| 23:21.43 | Djones_ | It is not a sequel, but an iteration. |
| 23:21.46 | Gnarfoz | neolithic: what? yes. indeed, wow ADDONs are written in lua |
| 23:21.51 | Torhal | neolithic: WoW is C++. Its interface. INTERFACE is Lua. |
| 23:21.52 | Djones_ | The same way Guild wars 2 is in fact Guild wars 2 |
| 23:21.59 | Torhal | I. N. T. E. R. F. A. C. E. |
| 23:21.59 | Djones_ | And Guild wars 2.0 is different |
| 23:22.00 | Gnarfoz | Djones_: sigh :) |
| 23:22.08 | Djones_ | Gnarfoz, how are you not understanding the difference? |
| 23:22.22 | Gnarfoz | I understand you're making one, it's a matter of interpretation in any case. |
| 23:22.28 | Djones_ | Right, okay. |
| 23:22.28 | fewyn | because he's trolling |
| 23:22.30 | Gnarfoz | I'm not |
| 23:22.36 | fewyn | YOU'RE ALL TORLLING |
| 23:22.38 | Djones_ | And Guild wars and Everquest totally didn't have complete sequels either. |
| 23:22.40 | neolithic | 5th gen is 5th gen whether u use an interface for it or not |
| 23:22.51 | Torhal | trolls fewyn into patch 1.1.12 |
| 23:22.52 | Gnarfoz | wtf is 5th gen supposed to mean without any context |
| 23:23.12 | fewyn | pokemon 2nd gen was not cooler than 1st gen |
| 23:23.18 | Coreclown | :DDd |
| 23:23.28 | Djones_ | fewyn, yes it was. |
| 23:23.28 | Gnarfoz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth-generation_programming_language this? |
| 23:23.32 | Djones_ | Because Suicine. |
| 23:23.49 | Coreclown | And now there's like…ummm… how many gens of Pokemon? D |
| 23:23.52 | Coreclown | :D* |
| 23:23.52 | Djones_ | 5 |
| 23:23.55 | Gnarfoz | (which, funnily enough, has no mention of a "6th gen") |
| 23:24.04 | Djones_ | Red, Blue, Yellow 1st gen |
| 23:24.10 | Djones_ | Gold/Silver 2nd gen |
| 23:24.17 | fewyn | red, green, yellow 1st gen |
| 23:24.18 | Coreclown | :D |
| 23:24.28 | fewyn | blue is just silly |
| 23:24.40 | neolithic | ur stupid ...5th gen language is common language blizz isntpayingfor propietary code gen. so why is it a huge expense to administer an engine overhaul?? |
| 23:24.44 | Djones_ | Emerald and ruby third...diamond and pearl 4th |
| 23:24.48 | Djones_ | Black and white 5th |
| 23:24.57 | fewyn | black2 and white2 are soon |
| 23:24.59 | jane | wat. wow addons are lua so wow is made in lua? trolololo |
| 23:24.59 | fewyn | or already out |
| 23:25.01 | fewyn | i forget which |
| 23:25.23 | Djones_ | fewyn, I wasn't aware you read japanese |
| 23:25.33 | Djones_ | fewyn, out in japan, not out internationally |
| 23:25.41 | Gnarfoz | whaaaat. neolithic, you're insane. |
| 23:26.00 | Coreclown | blame the old gods. |
| 23:26.03 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Don't feed the troll. |
| 23:26.06 | Djones_ | Octoboer or november I think |
| 23:26.11 | fewyn | i like how you think Coreclown |
| 23:26.16 | fewyn | i wish i had a ds |
| 23:26.23 | fewyn | but having a ds just for new pokemon games |
| 23:26.24 | fewyn | is ehhhh |
| 23:26.53 | neolithic | the reason there is no 6th gen is bec we have not progressed into a 6th gen language everyone is caught up using widgets and rapid app dev tools that some claim to be 6th gen |
| 23:27.11 | Gnarfoz | "everyone", yes. |
| 23:27.18 | Coreclown | :P |
| 23:27.19 | neolithic | vbnet |
| 23:27.25 | Djones_ | fewyn, they're worth it |
| 23:27.27 | Noxy | o.o |
| 23:27.30 | fewyn | i know Djones_ |
| 23:27.35 | Djones_ | Heart Gold and Black/white |
| 23:27.41 | Djones_ | Or soul silver, if you're weird |
| 23:27.43 | fewyn | well i'll be getting my pokemon type fix in a few weeks |
| 23:27.45 | fewyn | in wow |
| 23:27.50 | jane | neolithic: do you even do any dev? |
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| 23:28.15 | jane | i haven't heard anyone reference that kind of generational breakdown in forever, mostly cause, you know, it's dumb |
| 23:28.17 | Gnarfoz | and you think an "engine overhaul" would entail chaning programming languages, or what's your weird expectation that leads you into programming language theory territory? |
| 23:28.29 | *** part/#wowhead WOTradeGood (50ecdb7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.236.219.126) |
| 23:28.45 | Gnarfoz | jane: idd, generations are realized in hindsight, not while you're "in" them... |
| 23:28.48 | neolithic | who the hell said anything about changing language? |
| 23:28.57 | Coreclown | WOTradeGood "Nothing to do here" |
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| 23:29.03 | Torhal | Mah head. It aspload. |
| 23:29.16 | Djones_ | neolithic, the simple reason they won't rehaul the engine is because to do so would be just as much as making the eventual Sequel to WoW. |
| 23:29.37 | Djones_ | Which they'll do....when WoW stops being profitable, probably. If ever. |
| 23:29.40 | Geest | Jow folks |
| 23:29.40 | Torhal | I thought they were already doing that. |
| 23:29.43 | Mr_Rabies | what benefits are there to overhauliing the engine, and what engine? |
| 23:29.45 | Gnarfoz | neolithic: I just did, because I'm trying to figure out what you're on about with programming language generations now in relation to Blizzard (not) rewriting WoW's engine. |
| 23:29.50 | Geest | Anyone have some infos about buying rare cards? |
| 23:29.57 | fewyn | rare cards? |
| 23:29.59 | fewyn | tcg? |
| 23:30.04 | Gnarfoz | it was a suggestion, because you're just spouting random things that don't make sense in releation to the topic |
| 23:30.05 | fewyn | www.wowtcgloot.com |
| 23:30.41 | Mr_Rabies | there's certainly more than one engine in action in wow at this point |
| 23:30.51 | fewyn | yeah |
| 23:30.53 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: better performance on today's computers, resulting in the ability to better use the perfomance they offer - that's just one of the benefits |
| 23:30.57 | neolithic | the engine rehaul was a an extreme example..my point is this engine is more than capable of allowing dyes in game |
| 23:31.06 | fewyn | uh huh |
| 23:31.13 | Geest | I just found http://hosting-fox.nl/wotradegood/, price sounds good |
| 23:31.20 | jane | Gnarfoz: perhaps, but if i understand that wiki link to be true i dont really know anyone that has tried to categorize generations like that |
| 23:31.20 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it is, but it's not really a high priority thing at all |
| 23:31.22 | fewyn | i've never heard of it |
| 23:31.27 | fewyn | doubt it's any good |
| 23:31.28 | Gnarfoz | they could allow to just colour over entire pieces of armor, easily, yes. but not like in Rift or Guild Wars 2. |
| 23:31.45 | Geest | did you ever buy on TCG? |
| 23:31.47 | neolithic | THATS IT!! IM FED UP ! IM OFF TO REWRITE WOW ! cya all in a bit |
| 23:31.52 | Gnarfoz | jane: *shrug* :D I don't know why he even mentioned it ^^ |
| 23:31.55 | *** mode/#wowhead [+b *!*Instantbi@*.evdo.leapwireless.net] by fewyn |
| 23:31.55 | *** kick/#wowhead [neolithic!~fewyn@fewyn.net] by fewyn (You're falling in a bottomless pit of loneliness) |
| 23:31.57 | Djones_ | Gnarfoz, the dye system in GW2 is fantastic |
| 23:31.59 | jane | lol |
| 23:31.59 | fewyn | boom goes the dynamite |
| 23:32.40 | Gnarfoz | Djones_: it's nice, yes... (I only played beta); Rifts is basically the same, minus the "all armor looks alike" thing |
| 23:33.03 | Torhal | contemplates rewriting Gnarfoz in C++ and Spanish. |
| 23:33.05 | Gnarfoz | (and the UI is different, of course :D) |
| 23:33.10 | Gnarfoz | torhal: me gusta |
| 23:33.15 | Gnarfoz | =D |
| 23:33.19 | Torhal | lol |
| 23:33.20 | Coreclown | :D |
| 23:33.22 | Djones_ | Gnarfoz, but is there a hidden minigame of multiplayer pvp Tomb raider in rifts? |
| 23:33.28 | jane | speaking of lua, anyone have any good addon dev resources? i am currently resorting to just reading other peoples often nasty code |
| 23:33.39 | Gnarfoz | Djones_: there's bards? ^^ :D |
| 23:33.47 | Djones_ | Not really the same. |
| 23:33.48 | Torhal | jane: Do that, use wowpedia.org, wowprogramming.com |
| 23:33.50 | Noxy | what i miss o.o |
| 23:33.54 | Djones_ | Also, mesmers are overpowered. |
| 23:33.57 | fewyn | www.wowinterface.com |
| 23:33.59 | fewyn | Noxy: trolls |
| 23:34.07 | Gnarfoz | the wowprogramming book is nice, too, but aimed at beginners in big parts |
| 23:34.08 | fewyn | i've heard that Djones_ |
| 23:34.16 | Noxy | oic |
| 23:34.18 | fewyn | i play a ranger atm |
| 23:34.21 | Djones_ | fewyn, doing some World v world |
| 23:34.22 | Djones_ | 3 v 9 |
| 23:34.25 | fewyn | heh |
| 23:34.25 | jane | yeah I'm never sure how much to trust some of those sites because it's not always up to date.. |
| 23:34.26 | Gnarfoz | jnwhiteh: are you doing another revision of that, btw? or no more time these days ;) |
| 23:34.26 | Djones_ | a ranger, mesmer and elementalist |
| 23:34.31 | Djones_ | I got 7 kills. |
| 23:34.41 | Torhal | jane: You can also start WoW in console mode (add -console to the execution) and hit "~" at the login screen to bring up the console. From there, type ExportInterfaceFiles code |
| 23:34.46 | Geest | fewyn: I'm waiting for the confirmation payment for the spectral mount :P ( http://hosting-fox.nl/wotradegood/ ) |
| 23:34.54 | fewyn | uh huh |
| 23:34.55 | Djones_ | fewyn, you just can't lock down a mesmer, ever. |
| 23:34.55 | fewyn | ok |
| 23:34.58 | fewyn | good for you? |
| 23:35.04 | Djones_ | It's just broken how good their skill set is. |
| 23:35.05 | Gnarfoz | jane: good point, right before a new expansion launchers is probably not the best time to be learning addon coding :D |
| 23:35.06 | Torhal | jane: If you also want the artwork, ExportInterfaceFiles art |
| 23:35.08 | fewyn | Djones_: heh i haven't really tried other classes |
| 23:35.20 | Djones_ | So many buffs, conditions, illusions soaking up damage |
| 23:35.34 | Djones_ | 1 v 1, I think the only class that can beat them is a ranger. |
| 23:35.37 | Torhal | jane: That slaps a new folder in your WoW folder with the default UI code. |
| 23:35.38 | jane | ill have to note that for later, haha you're probably right |
| 23:35.39 | Djones_ | And only if they have short bow. |
| 23:35.45 | jane | Torhal: yeah i hae a copy of that somewhere |
| 23:35.46 | jane | have* |
| 23:35.56 | Gnarfoz | jane: but... Blizzard's code isn't really the best thing to take as a template |
| 23:36.08 | Gnarfoz | pretty bad code :P |
| 23:36.12 | jane | heh |
| 23:36.20 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: No, but it's damn good for figuring out how to make that shit work the way you want. |
| 23:36.28 | Gnarfoz | well, some parts, sure |
| 23:36.31 | Torhal | Heh. |
| 23:36.48 | Gnarfoz | but they also do a lot of stuff that just won't work for you, since you're not them. :F |
| 23:36.54 | Torhal | Yar |
| 23:37.08 | Geest | youhooo it's working! I'm riding my fuckin tiger :D |
| 23:37.18 | Gnarfoz | the addon system is a hypocrite (or something other, I don't know how to say what I mean in english... I'm tired) |
| 23:37.27 | jane | is broken, you mean |
| 23:37.40 | jane | lol |
| 23:37.40 | Coreclown | Geest: Gz |
| 23:37.40 | Gnarfoz | Geest: better than fucking your riding tiger |
| 23:37.40 | Geest | lol |
| 23:37.40 | Coreclown | true dat |
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| 23:37.44 | Geest | The website seems reliable |
| 23:37.48 | Geest | At least... |
| 23:38.11 | Geest | Just got the code via skype |
| 23:38.18 | Geest | 30 bitcoin is like 300 USD |
| 23:44.54 | Coreclown | A coversation… Aaaand it's gone. Laters, play well! |
| 23:45.17 | Geest | anyone tried the New Surgery Sort? |
| 23:48.35 | fewyn | there we go |
| 23:48.45 | fewyn | 1346 [Mysterious Fortune Card] |
| 23:49.39 | fewyn | here comes the ~fun part~ |
| 23:49.40 | *** join/#wowhead Kamikaze28 (~Kamikaze2@unaffiliated/kamikaze28) |
| 23:49.43 | fewyn | time to flip them! |
| 23:50.36 | Gnarfoz | what do you do that for? isn't that a gigantic waste of time (and money)? |
| 23:50.48 | fewyn | eh sometimes i come out ahead! |
| 23:50.52 | fewyn | and glyphs aren't selling atm |
| 23:51.15 | Gnarfoz | I haven't aggressively sold glyphs in quite a while now, hhhm |
| 23:51.27 | Gnarfoz | probably going to do it for a bit come level 90 |
| 23:51.28 | Gnarfoz | =] |
| 23:51.51 | fewyn | market is tough and full of undercutters on my realm |
| 23:52.03 | Gnarfoz | we moved realms, too |
| 23:52.04 | fewyn | aggressive undercutters |
| 23:52.08 | Gnarfoz | no idea how it's going to be here |
| 23:52.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:52.35 | fewyn | https://theunderminejournal.com/seller.php?realm=A-Velen&seller=Cakecicle i just reposted my glyphs this morning after a cancel/repost run |
| 23:54.20 | Gnarfoz | the detail on that is scary :D |
| 23:54.35 | Stormscape | http://i.imgur.com/iHlbn.jpg |
