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01:59.55raspyhehe bored so gonna mess around with d3
02:00.44raspyits funny though getting 2.5mb a sec downloading it
02:03.35Stormscape30k blood shield COME AT ME MELEE MOBS
02:13.59tate:))
02:14.04tatei'm having loads of fun in d3 atm
02:14.14tatethe patch was great
02:20.31raspyfriggin had to download anew driver :(
02:46.02Eraclitoand, after anzu, the blue proto drake. farming heroics with many characters is actually rewarding
02:50.19tate:)
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09:47.29WardI used to use EveryQuest to track quest completion, but it appears to be inactive
09:47.34Wardwhat addon can I use for that now?
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13:37.29AmarandeWard, I'm not quite sure what to recommend for quest completism now
13:37.53AmarandeI used Quest Completist for a short while, but it was buggy, most egregiously apparently completely blocking you from manually altering the tracked status of quests
13:41.51g0urraLoremaster
13:49.30Wardthere´s an addon called Loremaster?
13:50.12Wardthe nice thing about EveryQuest was you could use it to see what part of certain chains you were on
13:50.16Wardspecifically raid quests
13:51.47Amarande(And actually, I didn't know about QC's nasty bug until I had WoW crash on me, since normally I have auto track quests on - which isn't affected - but then WoW crashed at one point, which causes UI variables from that session not to be saved, and then my Howling Fjord quests weren't on tracker and I couldn't get them to be till I disabled QC.)
13:53.34Wardbasically I just wanna find out if I can still do certain parts of old tbc and vanilla raid quests
13:53.56WardI know I was stuck somewhere on the SSC quest, and I had some hyjal quests
13:54.02Wardbut no idea where I left it
13:54.12Wardeveryquest used to work for that
13:54.22Amarandeah
13:54.23g0urraLoremaster works for that..
13:54.34AmarandeI have been making a very emphatic point to follow every significant Outland chain to the end as soon as I get it
13:54.56Amarandeor, if as was the case sometimes at pre-80s levels, I couldn't do so (because it was a group quest and I couldn't yet solo it at that level), I would leave it in the quest log, but *never* abandon it
13:55.05Amarandeprecisely because I didn't want to have to try to find it again later :)
13:56.48Amarandegrumbles
13:56.55Amarandewere cogwheel gems nerfed or were they always colourless?
13:58.11Amarandealso, protip
13:58.16Amarandeif you have any caster alts that recently hit 85
13:58.23Amarandebuy the best wand (JP or VP) that you can get before Tuesday
13:58.36AmarandeI did, and it almost feels like an exploit heh
13:59.42Amarande(especially since there are surely less crafty applications of legitimate rules and game knowledge that Blizzard HAS regarded as exploits in the past :P)
14:04.35ari5avgood morning internet.
14:05.19Amarandebtw, are the wands being removed from the quartermasters come Tuesday?
14:05.45Amarande(I'd think they might be because no other classes get to buy weapons for JP, they have to either get crafted ones or obtain them via actual raiding)
14:07.55g0urracan you guys see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH844o6s_gI
14:11.30WardI can´t
14:11.34Wardnot available in my country
14:13.18Wardcheck out the whopping amount of videos on my account
14:13.20Wardhttp://www.youtube.com/user/WardHL/videos
14:13.30g0urragrr.. so they blocked it anyway
14:13.59g0urra<PROTECTED>
14:14.00g0urraUnited States
14:14.01g0urra-.-
14:15.37Wardyoutube now have a livestream hangout feature
14:16.13Wardthat´s pretty useful since you can do a whole lecture on it now, with shared screens and interactive tools
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14:24.40Amarandeg0urra: heh, that's strange
14:24.55AmarandeI'd think the more likely case in most cases would be "your video is available everywhere except in these locations: United States"
14:26.27g0urrawell, another extended video I uploaded was only available in UK and Antarctica..
14:34.19AmarandeAntarctica? :blink
14:34.50Amarande"you need a higher average item level. (Requires: 329. Currently 328)"
14:34.55Amarandekicks LFD
14:46.17blademeldAmarande: buy a freaking 377 pvp blue
14:46.33blademeldyou don't have to have it equipped for it to count
14:54.16Stormscapeor equip it if it's actually better
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14:55.01blademeldStormscape: went to incheon
14:55.12blademelddipped my feet in the ocean
14:55.14Stormscapeo rly
14:55.25blademeldfeelsgoodman.jpg
14:55.39blademeldalso visited the China Town in Incheon
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15:08.44WardI installed Loremaster
15:08.47Wardbut no idea how it works
15:11.28WardQuest Completist works well though
15:11.31Wardguess I´ll use that
15:12.09g0urraLoremaster is pretty easy..
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15:12.26Stormscapeesp now that it tracks per zone
15:12.29Stormscapeinstead of per continent
15:12.33Wardhow do I get a list of incomplete questchains with it?
15:12.46g0urrahttp://www.curse.com/addons/wow/loremasteraddon
15:12.48WardStormscape, he means the addon, not the achievement
15:12.58Stormscapepffft
15:13.00Stormscapelike I care
15:13.03g0urrajust look at the addon page
15:13.06g0urrait explains
15:13.16Wardit just says to type /lm
15:13.25Wardwhen I do I get a bunch of empty fields
15:13.33StormscapeMeanwhile, in Romania: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4504929/Angelina-lookalike-raped-me.html
15:15.10Wardthe only thing I´d object to would be the stabbing
15:15.34Wardapparently Loremaster can´t output lists, it just puts icons on the map
15:19.26g0urrait does give lists -.-
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15:21.10Wardhow
15:26.09g0urracan you do a screenshot of what /lm does for you?
15:27.33Wardhttp://i.imgur.com/PJIa5.jpg
15:28.30g0urraso it's broken for you
15:28.33g0urrahow did you install it?
15:28.39g0urrado you have any other quest tracking addons?
15:28.43Wardnope
15:28.48Wardjust extracted it into the addons folder
15:28.51Wardlike I do all addons
15:28.56WardI did a server query
15:29.07Wardno change
15:29.09g0urrayou clicked the button next to the red button?
15:29.34Wardthe Reset Loremaster one?
15:30.18Wardtried that now
15:30.19Wardno change
15:30.42Wardok I went into the settings, hide completed achievements was turned on
15:30.50WardI think it´s fixed now, I see a list of continents
15:31.05g0urra..
15:31.16Wardbut I don´t think this is gonna work for the quests I need to find
15:31.24Wardthose are not part of the loremaster achievement
15:31.38Wardthis specifically on works for quests that count for loremaster
15:32.18Stormscapehttp://i.imgur.com/8gUVE.jpg this guy's keybinds are terrible
15:32.25Stormscapeshift -, really?
15:32.28Stormscapegood luck EVER hitting that
15:32.54blademeldyou should see my keybinds
15:33.29blademeldalso, what's wrong with a shift keybind?
15:33.44Stormscapeblademeld
15:33.44Wardthis is why I love playing my mage
15:33.48WardI don´t need that many buttons
15:33.58WardI can basically fit all the abilities I use in combat on 2 bars
15:33.59Stormscapethe person is obviously a PvPer based on their HP. shift - is bound to arcane torrent, an aoe silence
15:34.03Wardthen I have a 3rd bar for random crap
15:34.06Stormscapehow are they supposed to hit that while moving with a mouse?
15:34.11Stormscapeyou need 2 hands to hit shift -
15:34.17g0urrashift+9?
15:34.18g0urradafuq
15:34.19Wardhow do you need 2 hands to hit shift?
15:34.25StormscapeWard, no
15:34.27Stormscapeshift -
15:34.30Stormscapethe - key
15:34.33Stormscapenext to the = key
15:34.36Wardright side shift
15:34.44g0urrabut that's impractical as fuck
15:34.55blademeldStormscape: lol
15:34.58WardI can do left hand shift -
15:34.59Stormscapehe doesn't have ` keybound
15:35.00Wardwith 1 hand
15:35.01Wardbarely
15:35.04Stormscapeor shift-e
15:35.05Stormscapeor shift-w
15:35.08Stormscapeor shift-q
15:35.09blademeldI don't PvP, so I don't have that problem
15:35.10Stormscapeor shift-r
15:35.18Wardshift - I can do
15:35.20blademeldanyways
15:35.22Stormscapeall of them way easier to hit
15:35.23Wardshift = is just to far
15:35.27Stormscapethan shift retard
15:35.27blademeldI meant shift in general
15:35.29g0urraI keybind ctrl/shift/alt to 1-5 and `
15:35.33blademeldnot shift -
15:35.36Wardcould he be using a sticky shift?
15:35.37g0urraas well as 1-5
15:35.47Wardwhere shift sticks after you hit it until you hit another key
15:35.48StormscapeAlso
15:35.53Stormscape>keybinding nondispellable buffs
15:35.54Stormscapewhat.
15:36.03blademeldStormscape: I'd thought you'd meant "-" as in "anykey"
15:36.08Stormscapeah, no
15:36.16blademeldanyways
15:36.18blademeldgood night
15:36.20Stormscapenight
15:36.22blademeldtoodloo
15:36.27Stormscapeoh wow he doesn't have mouse button 4 bound either
15:36.29Stormscapeconfirmed baddie
15:36.34blademeldgropes g0urra and Ward on the way out
15:36.40g0urra>:|
15:36.45blademeldStormscape: my mouse only has 3 buttons
15:36.52Stormscapewut
15:36.57Wardmy mouse has 2 buttons
15:36.58Stormscapeyou don't have back/forward keys?
15:36.59Wardand a scroll
15:37.00g0urramy mouse has 14 buttons :3
15:37.03Stormscapes/buttons/
15:37.07g0urranot including middle, back and forward
15:37.09blademeldI do not
15:37.19StormscapeHow do you manage to use a mouse without back/forward buttons
15:37.20Stormscapeseriously
15:37.30WardI have a logitech LX7
15:37.35Wardit has 2 buttons and a scrollwheel
15:37.46blademeldshrugs and goes off to sleep while evading further questions
15:37.46StormscapeWard how does it feel to be living in 1997
15:38.35Wardthe logitech mouse I use for this laptop also only has 2 buttons and a scroll wheel
15:38.53Wardoh wait a miute, the scroll wheels work laterally as back/forward buttons!
15:39.05Wardthis is news to me
15:39.14Wardapparently I do have back/forward buttons
15:40.20g0urraI used to use an MX1000, but when I switched keyboard and lost macro keys, I bought a razer naga instead
15:40.39Wardok this addon is the worst thing ever
15:40.55Wardit shows quests in the wrong locations, it shows quests I completed as not complete
15:41.04Wardand it shows quests I´m 100% I haven´t done as completed
15:41.16WardI wish EveryQuest still worked
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15:43.33Stormscapehttp://www.indiegogo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/TeslaInfographic2.png I would have laughed if they had gotten donations from Best Korea
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15:57.11neutronimityhttp://www.wowhead.com/profile=eu.outland.wardian#quests Could help a bit
15:57.20neutronimityWard - ^
16:02.35g0urrahow does that help?
16:03.11Amarandehrm.
16:03.18Amarandeis the ilvl for qualifying for dungeons actually a straight average?
16:03.27g0urrayes
16:03.33Amarandeor is it weighted (with certain slots counting more and/or your lowest level items being given higher weight)?
16:03.43g0urrano
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16:35.34Wardneutronimity, actually that does help
16:35.35Wardthanks :p
16:35.46neutronimitynice :)
16:36.10Amarandehopefully I don't get looked at like a noob for having an inactive meta gem, though
16:36.27Amarandesince I had the luck to get a helmet with a meta slot before actually getting gear that has enough gem slots to activate one :P
16:36.49Amarandethe only logical ones for a mage are +54 int/+2% mana and +54 int/+3% crit effect, and both need at least two gems (going in slots I haven't got) to activate
16:37.00neutronimity(ward: take note, some quests show up as incompleted even though you may have completed them in game - it's something with the blizzard armory returning such quests as incompleted.)
16:37.02Amarande(and my only other gem slots atm are cogwheel, which don't have colour)
16:37.17Amarandeneutronimity: which I think in turn may be a server glitch
16:37.30neutronimitymaybe :) don't know
16:37.38Wardit also doesn
16:37.38Amarandewhen I used Quest Completist, sometimes I had to run the "query server" twice, the first time it would list some as available that were not
16:37.50Wardit also doesn´t help that certain quests seem to reset whenever there is a patch
16:38.04Wardso you do them over and over again
16:38.11Amarandealso, I'm not sure if the Armory reflects this or not, but you can lock yourself out of some quests altogether pretty easily
16:38.26AmarandeIt's why On the Blade's Edge as Alliance is surprisingly challenging if you don't use a guide every step of the way
16:38.34Amarandeor at least, more tedious
16:39.23AmarandeIf you don't wait until you're told to to go to Toshley's Station (and in order to be *told* to do that you have to stumble across the vindicator in the cage and do her quests) from Sylvanaar, you permanently lose the ability to do two breadcrumb quests
16:39.55AmarandeBlade's Edge's qualification is a tight squeeze, which means the upshot of this is that you pretty much get stuck having to suck it up and farm 105 Apexis Shards
16:40.37Amarande(whereas with those two quests, even not counting that there's one or two other quests you can find - although one of these is via switchback from a Netherstorm chain, and I think another one requires revered with Ogri'la - you'll only have to farm 35)
16:42.01AmarandeHeh. As a rule the only simple Outland quest achievements are Hellfire Peninsula and perhaps Zangarmarsh :)
16:43.08Amarandemaybe Terokkar, I can't remember if it's tight enough to require Skettis and that ogre plateau above Shattrath
16:44.09AmarandeThe others, though, tend to be "you'll have to come back later because some of the quests can't be done till 70+", "you can't get enough quests unless you do this chain that takes you all the way around half of Outland to unlock them", "if you came here anywhere near level, you'll probably have to wait till 80-85 or find a group, by the time you get which you probably would have been 80-85
16:44.09Amarandeanyway", or two or all three of these. :)
16:45.03WardI did the BEM loremaster before loremaster got added to the game
16:45.07AmarandeI'm still wondering if Pandaria will be like that, too
16:45.12WardI just got it automatically, never needed the guide
16:45.31Amarandeparticularly, if some/most of the zones will have sub-areas (probably with multiple quests) which can't be done till you hit 90 and purchase Pandarian flight
16:45.49Amarandeas was the case with Outland during BC where you had to be 70 to do a large number of the quests because they were in areas only reachable by flying
16:45.57Amarandeeven if the zone as a whole was usually much lower level
16:46.17Wardyou can do BEM loremaster without a flying mount
16:46.37AmarandeWard: hmmm. are you sure you don't come up one short?
16:46.44Wardnope
16:46.50Wardyou actually have 3 quests to many
16:47.02AmarandeI seem to remember I needed all three of the 35 Apexis Shard quests from Ogri'la, which of course is flying only
16:47.15Wardyou don´t need any ogri´la quests
16:47.19AmarandeThinking of what I could substitute for those, but I'm only thinking of three quests I didn't do
16:47.21Wardnor do you need any of the consortium quests
16:47.35AmarandeThe two breadcrumbs from Sylvanaar to Toshley's, which I locked myself out of (and are so very easy to lock yourself out of, to boot)
16:47.46WardI didn´t do those either
16:47.49Amarandeand there's apparently one other quest from a Netherstorm chain, but that goes to Bash'ir Landing which is also flight only
16:47.57WardI think you missed a hub somewhere or something
16:48.03Wardloremastering outland is super easy
16:48.13AmarandeI wonder if maybe there were a few extras back in BC that aren't available now?
16:48.19Wardpossibly
16:48.20Amarandelike when they got rid of keys and attunements etc.?
16:48.25Wardwell I did do all the raid quests
16:48.32Wardincluding the one that went through gruul´s
16:48.42Wardand the sons of gruul quest
16:48.43Amarandeyeah, you probably had more available quests, then
16:48.50AmarandeI think there are 90 quests available in BEM now to Alliance
16:49.09Amarandethe only other one I know of that I didn't do (and isn't a daily) is that I've read there's one more quest that unlocks at Ogri'la at revered
16:49.34Wardhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H_DFeMZHng&feature=player_embedded
16:49.35Ward!!
16:49.53AmarandeSons of Gruul quests are still in
16:50.05Amarandein fact, they're laughably easy now, because the sons are only "signature" tier now rather than elite
16:50.26Amarande(or really, it would be more like Elite Master or even Nemesis, to use the LOTRO reference)
16:51.07AmarandeSignature being a tier of mob in LOTRO, which actually has seven formally recognised tiers of mob strength
16:51.33Amarandewhich ... actually are pretty much all found in WoW too, except WoW doesn't distinguish between weak normals ("swarms" in LOTRO parlance) or between the various types of "elite" with the exception of Boss
16:52.11Amarandesig mobs are like the solo quest boss mobs and such that aren't specifically marked elite, basically with normal attack power but a lot more HP
16:53.31Amarandethe other parallels are Elite Master/WoW elite with much more HP than the "normal" elites, Nemesis/typical 5 man WoW dungeon boss and Arch-Nemesis/raid boss or some dungeon final bosses
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17:10.35neutronimityI bemoan what has happened to elite mobs.
17:14.38fewynehhhhhh tough decision i can't decide if i want to help a village or run off and rescue a friends love
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17:31.26JunkHeadwhatcha playing fewyn?
17:31.48fewyngw2
17:31.54JunkHeadAh
17:31.54fewynwww.guildhead.com/welcome
17:32.03JunkHeadJust can't get interested in it.
17:32.08JunkHeadHate that i preordered.:\
17:32.19fewynit's f2p
17:32.20fewynso
17:32.28fewynmaybe an update will interest you
17:32.34fewynor you'll find a profession you like
17:32.34JunkHeadYeah but I paid like 75 bucks o whatever
17:32.41fewyni'm playing a sylvari ranger
17:32.42fewynatm
17:32.42JunkHeadHopefully
17:33.01JunkHeadJust a bad time for its release I guess for me
17:33.45JunkHeadWaiting for MoP I guess. New wow patch right around the corner. BF3 double xp weekend. = not worried about gw2.:(
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17:41.20g0urrafewyn: I played for 3 hours then stopped because 1) the UI is horrible 2) there's no tutorial
17:41.54Mewits f2p, but do you have to buy the game?
17:42.02fewynit's like gw1
17:42.04fewynyou buy the box
17:42.05fewynno sub
17:59.32JunkHeadfewyn is hurricane isaac affecting your area?
18:00.05fewynit'll probably hit the miami area, i should only be worried about heavy rain and some strong wind
18:00.08fewynnothing super srs
18:00.27JunkHeadYeah so far it looks like my area will get rain and wind.
18:00.32fewynit's expected to go out into the gulf
18:00.37JunkHeadSucks I'll be at work during the shit though.:\
18:00.44fewyni forget
18:00.46fewynwhere do you live?
18:00.57JunkHeadHell, what I'm looking at shows it headed straight into biloxi.
18:01.05JunkHeadIm' about 100 miles north of Mobile, AL.
18:02.02fewynah
18:02.19fewynhttp://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201209_5day.html
18:02.33JunkHeadhttp://www.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/
18:03.01JunkHeadsee the county just to the north-northeast of the E in "mobile"?
18:03.28JunkHeadDat be me.
18:03.31fewynheh
18:18.54Noxybeep
18:19.32g0urrameep
18:19.34g0urraboops Noxy
18:20.44Noxyflop
18:20.52Noxyi wish i could seeeeeeeeee
18:21.05Noxynew glasses get here tomorrow
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19:01.41neutronimityIt shocks me how blissfully unaware players can be of primary game objectives.
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19:37.09neutronimityhttps://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6OMH5-DgihRQkI1TkM5N0lfTjA test
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22:31.26Niadyth!mop
22:31.27Freyja4 weeks 1 day 10 hours 28 minutes 34 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012]
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22:55.20fewynso world vs world in gw2 is like vanilla av
22:55.26fewynbut with several different maps
22:55.39g0urraisn't it WvWvW
22:55.45fewynsame thing
22:55.51g0urrayou said WvW
22:55.52g0urra:3
22:55.52fewyntoo many dubyas
22:56.05g0urrapft
22:57.39fewyndoesn't matter what they are called tho
22:57.48fewynstill reminds me of vanilla AV
22:57.56fewynand i loved vanilla av
22:58.03fewynthis rush shit is no fun
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22:58.51g0urrabut in old AV you needed HK in order to get up ranks = better rewards
22:59.05g0urranow fast win = most honor points
22:59.12fewynyeah
22:59.13fewyni know
22:59.34g0urraso basically blizzard killed old AV by themselves
22:59.57g0urrathey should bring back Korrak though..
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23:09.46g0urrahttp://images.4chan.org/v/src/1346019251013.png
23:10.53NoxyI have a ps3 and wii but i clean like a 360 D:
23:17.06g0urraI have a PC
23:17.07g0urra:I
23:20.25fewyni have a ps3 and a wii
23:20.28fewyni don't use them
23:20.36fewynbecause i have a pc!
23:20.47JunkHeadI have an xbox 360 and a pc.
23:21.11JunkHeadOnly play a few game son xbox though
23:21.20JunkHeadmainly a couple of sports games.
23:23.25Noxyfewyn, yeah, our ps3 is our netflix and hulu machine
23:23.31Noxyand my son plays the wii
23:24.04g0urraoh yeah I have an xbox 360 too but I haven't played it in like 1.5 years
23:41.15Jammerinteresting blue comment that wow subscription fees are generally going towards having a customer support
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23:50.11Jammerif you do character transfer between accounts can you also change realm with the same fee?
23:50.18fewynyes
23:52.05Jammerfewyn: thanks... thinking if I should get second account for recruit-a-friend monk
23:52.41Jammercould possibly just transfer the characters on that account to main
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